h2-discussion

[hollow crest]

i never turn off timer 3, it's on every single time. i haven't had a game slower than 15mins on average

usually it's 12-14 mins

[ashen hollow]

I get the hour glass figure, but the shirt is just not it

[devout cairn]

It's not the easiest but it's relatively easy to get used to compared to Pain, it's worth it if you plan to go for high fear

[hollow crest]

yeah chronos is zesty af. ew

[devout cairn]

it sounds scary at first but Frenzy really aint that bad, took me a few runs to get it

[hollow crest]

i'd rather go pain no? i rarely ever get hit tbh, and if i do i just get Hephaestus boons

[ashen hollow]

I feel like I'm looking at James Charles

[devout cairn]

Pain starts getting really bad when combined with other Vows, frenzy does too but it's manageable. I'd suggest giving it a try, bump that s***t to 2 for a few runs to test it

[queen cosmos]

GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Hello

[ashen hollow]

I'm the psycho that always bump frenzy and rivals to max first

It's just easier to adjust that way

[cunning laurel]

great way to learn

[hollow crest]

doesn't frenzy make everyone attack AND move faster?

[devout cairn]

yes

[hollow crest]

so all of the attack animations im used to are messed up. it's completely terrible

[devout cairn]

eh you get used to it pretty fast

[cunning laurel]

yup so better to be used to frenzy 2

[devout cairn]

you already said you dont get hit

[queen cosmos]

A nice gentleman is saying hello here and nobody cares 😠

[hollow crest]

im a souls player, memorizing attacks and patterns is what i do best, and frenzy completely ruins the muscle memory. it's just a bad game design

[ashen hollow]

And? You have to bump it eventually and doing that with already high heat is annoying

[cunning laurel]

now theres patterns to memorize but now theyre somewhat difficult

[devout cairn]

completely ruins it is a stretch, I think it went fine for most people in here

took me like 3 runs to get used to it, patterns remain the same just increased tempo

[hollow crest]

i already struggle with charging some O attacks, with frenzy it's borderline impossible

just played Hel aspect and that 50mana special takes forever

[ashen hollow]

You simply have to stop

It is what it is

[cunning laurel]

tap into autofire hel

[devout cairn]

Omega moves arent that good anyways, learn to love regular attacks

[ashen hollow]

That's why so many om dependant aspect don't do well on high heat

[cunning laurel]

and just try frenzy 2 for a while, eventually you wont go back

[hollow crest]

Hel is played that way. you can't NOT use them lol. and im not spamming ) attacks i'm not restarted

[cunning laurel]

hel is completely fine without omega special lol

[ashen hollow]

(Hel is kinda bad) but yeah you simple have to deal with the bs

Also last time I remember valk form was so bad, 50 magick for like 3 seconds

[hard bane]

rezero pfp

(thats my fav anime)

[ashen hollow]

Jan 17 you better be there

[hard bane]

whats happening in jan 17 😨

[devout cairn]

hades 3

[ashen hollow]

A lot of new re zero projects, anyway this is the supergiant discord so back on topic

[hard bane]

oh yeah they announced 10 new stuff right

[ashen hollow]

Yeah

[hard bane]

i lowk forgot i read from arc 1-7 now

anyways i wont go offtopic

[hollow crest]

yeah i can see why some aspects are bad on high heat. but that's poor game design, once again. i don't want to play a mode which forces me to only use specific weapons. it's ass

[ashen hollow]

High heat was never meant to be fair and balanced anyhow

[devout cairn]

i'd say it's fine game design considering 99% of players will never reach high enough fear where these weapons are not viable anymore

[ashen hollow]

The highest heat is just barely beatable

[hard bane]

dude my exams got so cooked my hades 2 playtime went from “30 hours in the last two weeks” to “20 mins in last two weeks”

[ashen hollow]

Bruh what kinda exams are those

[hard bane]

math physics exams

[hollow crest]

well can't play frenzy 2 with most weapons, since you have to use O moves

[cunning laurel]

what weapons are those

bc everything is very manageable until past 62 where you lose sorceress

[hollow crest]

like any, besides Medea

[loud laurel]

oh well, first time I got to third boss in surface, memory game, I think thats my wall here ☠️

[devout cairn]

people beat 62f with every single aspect in the game, i think you will be fine in 15 fear

[ashen hollow]

There aren't as many as you think that needs omega

That was an ending

[devout cairn]

also it usually isnt frenzy that is stopping people from using Omoves, it's like Hubris + Debt + Denial + Forfeit

[median plinth]

there are multiple people who have beaten 62 fear on all aspects

they're all playable, though some are more challenging than others

[hollow crest]

well if the game adds 4 different moves to every weapon then tells me to only use 1-2 - that's bad game design AGAIN, lol. It reminds me of Dark Souls 3 where you have like 6 different attacks for each weapon, but never use anything besides normal R1 spam

because it simply does more DPS than anything else

[cunning laurel]

some options are always going to be worse

[median plinth]

I've been watching a lot of 62 fear runs, and the most interesting thing to me is how they use a lot more of the kit than I do

[ashen hollow]

Because they are good enough to know all the attack windows

[hollow crest]

whenever i'm playing a staff i always use all 4 attacks. they are all good. that's how it is supposed to be

on Axe i use everything, on daggers too

[cunning laurel]

even on mel or circe who never really use magic?

[hollow crest]

the only weapon where i dont use Omoves is coat. spam build it is

[timid vigil]

there's always gonna be a best option, specially when the game specifically design aspects to focus on a part of the kit

[jolly hound]

Yeah I know, if your objective is getting good you’ll need to get used to it sooner or later and it’s easier to get used to it now compared to 20 fear from now

[crude dragon]

Well, Circe at least uses Omega Cast

[hollow crest]

there's a card that makes you deal 50% more damage when you're lower than 100% mana

[timid vigil]

it's not bad design that you don't use the attack on Charon axe, youre not supposed to, the aspect is made for you to use other parts of the kit

[ashen hollow]

Nah frenzy is nothing compare to void, what are you talking about

[hollow crest]

why would i spam a button if i can combo and still have higher DPS and a much more fun gameplay loop

[jolly hound]

I lost to chronos on my max void for the hell of it run and I’m still kinda mad about it ngl

[cunning laurel]

yup lots of weapons will sneak in one omega per room and not use it again just for huntress

[crude dragon]

That'd be Void

[timid vigil]

50% more damage with your regular attack and special, this is NOT the same thing as 50% more damage 😭

[devout cairn]

im pretty sure this remains a viable option well into high fear, you will be fine doing that for a hundred more hours

[cunning laurel]

lol that too

[crude dragon]

Frenzy is a re-adjustment, Void is flat-out unfair

[timid vigil]

If huntress gave you 50% global damage it would be insane

[ashen hollow]

I sure love origination

[timid vigil]

imagine having two originations

[hollow crest]

most damage i do still comes from attacks, not curses

[crude dragon]

I'm imagining it, and it's wonderful

[restive ibex]

+50% apollo cast bomb damage

[ashen hollow]

Wait so you don't fw blizt and scorch and all that stuff?

[devout cairn]

idk people have some wildly high expactions from developers, not the first time I see a take in here where "everything must have the exact same viability well into the highest difficulty" I'm gonna be honest i've never ever seen a game achieve that unless it's like really simple

[fresh wind]

Slay the Spire

[median plinth]

people with crazy takes on the internet, more news at 11

[cunning laurel]

well it sounds like you are spamming omegas, which arent boosted by huntress

[timid vigil]

I think you just don't understand enough about the game yet which is fine tbh

[ashen hollow]

Nah in no world is slay the spire perfectly balanced lol

[devout cairn]

everything viable in asc0 is as viable in asc20? tbh i only got to asc5

[ashen hollow]

Not when the watcher exist

[timid vigil]

Like frenzy is not the worst fear at all, eventually you start to understand why cause I can see why it sounds so bad at first glance

[crude dragon]

Isn't Watcher flat-out better than the other 3?

[ashen hollow]

Not just flat out but overwhelmingly so

[timid vigil]

Yes

[restive ibex]

i mean don't you have to beat the game to get the watcher

😭

[timid vigil]

I never went really far on sts, banger game, I should play again

[ashen hollow]

It's like having jeweled pom at the very beginning

[hollow crest]

250hrs in. i look at my stats, and im pretty sure i make the best in slot builds every run

[fresh wind]

Well excluding Watcher

[restive ibex]

farthest i got on sts was the second boss because i'm bad at ironheart 🥀

[median plinth]

I wonder if without jpom every aspect would be beatable at 67 fear

[cunning laurel]

theres more to a run than what boons you pick

[timid vigil]

right

[restive ibex]

mcshoo i think i need to kill you with hammers

[ashen hollow]

Void singlehandedly gatekeeps almost everything

At least it isn't as bad as heat

[median plinth]

Yeah - is anything beatable at 67 fear w/o jpom?

[ashen hollow]

There's like less than 10 max heat clear

[crude dragon]

Without Jpom, I'm reasonably sure it'd just be Medea and maybe Mel staff clearing

[restive ibex]

whats the difference between a jpom and a regular pom

[median plinth]

medea probably doable, with posessed array

[jolly hound]

3 levels

[timid vigil]

Yes

[crude dragon]

Foolish had done a 67F Medea clear during Unseen

[restive ibex]

that'd do it

[timid vigil]

Foolish did it before 1.0

[ashen hollow]

Zeus shield all over again

[median plinth]

that's also due to the fact that the "no boom selection" makes the randomness particularly punishing

[crude dragon]

Granted, it was back when it buffed Zeus cast's damage

[median plinth]

don't remember the h1 heat for that

[restive ibex]

also--why pomegranates? there's probably some greek myth lore behind the choice here but . pomegranates???

[median plinth]

there's definitely a greek lore reason

[cunning laurel]

persephone story

[crude dragon]

Pomegranates are tied to the underworld

[restive ibex]

oh so that's my. entire save slot gone

😭

[ashen hollow]

Pom is persephone, jewels is hades

It's kinda cute

[median plinth]

I wonder of negral is doable at 67 w/o jpom

[jolly hound]

Persephone loved them and planted them all over the underworld; the bs story they gave the olympians was because Persephone ate six of them she had to spend six months a year in the underworld (which hades 1 framed as a BS story, but he myths itself make it sound like a canon rule, idk)

[ashen hollow]

Wait gotta check

[restive ibex]

i was only 2 hours in so i'm fine with starting over but. ion know

i hope this doesn't become a persistent issue

[jolly hound]

Might have been six seeds I’m
Not sure offhand

[hollow crest]

lmao bro, it's nothing, just start again

[timid vigil]

One thing is the game was not balanced with 67 in mind lol, they certainly tried to balance different possible fear layouts but they didn't intend 67 to be beatable or anything for sure

[restive ibex]

it still sucks that my save file's just Gone

[hollow crest]

i once had a 150hrs Celeste save corrupted. unfortunate

i started Isaac all over again when Repentance came out. had like 300hrs in it

once lost my 400hr Dark Souls 3 savefile. 10 characters. but who cares, i can just play it again

it's about the journey, not the result

[restive ibex]

okay so hades 2 just refuses to save

that's wonderful

[rose mantle]

what is everyones favourite hades 2 song? mine is olympus aflame

[devout cairn]

People should relive the "your parents refuse to buy you a memory card experience"

[restive ibex]

tbh i have been having somewhat of an issue with both hades games of them refusing to close on their own, but hades 1 was fine with saving

i don't get the problem now 😭

[lime crest]

call me basic but its the "down, down" from scylla

[mortal dragon]

I wouldn’t call it a loss tbh

[lime crest]

i love it so much when they play it but as i progress the story they seem to be singing less and less of it 😭

someday i'll add it to my playlist

[rose mantle]

so your favourite is coral crown?

[lime crest]

yep!!! thats the one

[ashen hollow]

Nah the twink portrait killed all of his aura for me, like his battle portrait were so good

[hollow crest]

hades 2 is good overall, but it never EVER reaches the Hades 1 level

[devout cairn]

It's not even the shirt for me, it's the eyes

[hollow crest]

god of the dead and especially The Unseen Ones is an absolute masterpiece

[devout cairn]

I hate how now he's permanently looking at mel like that

[hollow crest]

who tf would ever combine 2 lead guitars, that soundtrack is amazing

[ashen hollow]

It's his face, it looks wrong somehow

[hollow crest]

i really liked the Scylla vow of rivals song

[devout cairn]

Also his personality, lost all of his edge. Could still be a bit snarky

[ashen hollow]

Shouldn't he still have half of him be the hateful chronos

[mortal dragon]

I will help my sassy granpa any day I love his pose.

[hollow crest]

disgusting pose

[crude dragon]

Daisuke Ishiwatari

[timid vigil]

What

[buoyant matrix]

guitar guy that did unseen ones

[crude dragon]

Answering "who TF would ever combine 2 lead guitars," he's Arc System Works' lead composer

[crude dragon]

He didn't do Unseen Ones

[timid vigil]

No that's another daisuke that's why I asked

[timid vigil]

Ah yes yeah

[crude dragon]

And boy howdy does Blazblue's OST love their guitar duets

(It's always peak)

[timid vigil]

It's really good

[crude dragon]

Howling Moon my beloved

[timid vigil]

Huge fan of susanoos theme

[jolly hound]

Tempt fate, listen to coral crown in the shower

[crude dragon]

MUST DIE is also phenomenal, yes yes

[timid vigil]

I also love pretty much the entire xrd OST it's so peak

[open nimbus]

Daisuke Ishiwatari is no joke the Darren Korb of Guilty Gear and Blazblue

err maybe just guilty gear

[timid vigil]

I mean yeah he is the lead composer the same way Darren also is

[restive ibex]

i hate that eris has to be mean to me because i have to rush my doomed save files

[raw patrol]

just realized

the ||statues|| make sense a bit after the epilogue

[fresh wind]

When I start a run on 40f and Melinoe says "who am I trying to impress..."

Was that line REALLY necessary to put in the game

Now im questioning why im fear climbing

[shrewd oak]

i mean... is she wrong?

[jolly hound]

I reply “my own god damn ego” and go for it

[shrewd oak]

im happy at the like 8 fear im at rn :3

[merry whale]

commander schelemeus

exclusive dialogue for beating 62 fear (he does not)

[fresh wind]

I do it to impress all of you

[merry whale]

it'd be funny if he pulled a flowey moment of "at least ur better than those who can only watch it performed"

[brave gate]

Can anyone tell me where I can read the update history for the game? I remember Hephaestus being really bad at the start of EA and wanted to see the specific changes made

[fresh wind]

Does grisly gain make all plasma restore 15 mag, or just the ones dropped through grisly gain itself?

[brave gate]

Yes

And without grisly gain, no plasma restores mana

[merry whale]

u can just scroll thru #hades2-patch-notes

[brave gate]

Ty

[brave gate]

Lmao I forget about Tough Trade. Yeah that was so unbelievably bad

[shrewd oak]

how bad was it

[brave gate]

"If you take damage during your Attacks or Specials, they are stronger if they hit."

[restive ibex]

i want to kill eris i think

[brave gate]

Have you beaten her before?

[restive ibex]

no, she just doomed my farthest run by "blessing" me

though getting to Tartatus four runs in on a new save file would do that

[brave gate]

Oooooh I thought you meant her boss fight lol

[jolly hound]

If you’re at less than half health at the break she doesn’t do that

I regret ||porking|| Eris. ||icarus|| actually earned it

[brave gate]

Icarus has to work the hardest cause he isnt a god lol

[restive ibex]

think i was just above half-health getting into the ||Fields of Mourning|| from the ||Luckier Tooth|| actually

i genuinely got past ||Cerberus|| at 1 hp and i was terrified for the rest of the run, which happened to be . one room

[brave gate]

@restive ibex You don't have to spoiler tag that stuff in this channel

[restive ibex]

mildly annoyed that saves are broken on my end so i have to keep hades 2 on 24/7

[restive ibex]

i mean it said all v1.0 spoilers

[brave gate]

Yeah things that are NEW in 1.0 lol

[restive ibex]

oh fair

forgot there was a playtest actually.

aaanyway i wanna hit eris upside the head with a pan for messing up my run 🥀

[brave gate]

Good thing there's the aspect of Pan

[faint thistle]

HADES 3 WHENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[restive ibex]

i'm not talking about the satyr god of the wilds

[brave gate]

When Hades and Persephone decide to get intimate again

[shrewd oak]

this game is so peak

i love smacking chronos and typhon. screw them

[trail whale]

Heyy, a friend of mine is working on a chaos cosplay, do any of you know if there is any concept art or anything out there?
Generally anything more than the character artwork in the game would be helpful qwq
(Dont know if this is the right channel to ask but thanks anyways :3

[shrewd oak]

also im beginning to kind of empathise with chronos lol-

[brave gate]

Bro's just lonely

[shrewd oak]

i wouldn't want the gods as my family

i hope the ending lets me help him somehow but i don't want it spoiled :c

[devout cairn]

he gets diagnosed with lupus

[charred dome]

they should make hades 3 an FPS game

[buoyant matrix]

fps competitive battle royale pvpve extraction looter shooter with seasonal content and battlepasses

[jolly hound]

He earned it tho

[shrewd oak]

this vexes me

[shrewd oak]

don't forget live service

so ive beaten both bosses a couple times. is it alright if i focus on one region or should i split my focus between the two evenly

[median plinth]

you need to beat the underworld a certain number of times to eventually advance the storyline, then the overworld once after that

but it's fine to focus on what you enjoy, you have to do multiple runs of both

[frail badge]

I hope something will be done about the rivals vow tier 2 unlocks condition

Like in 20 freaking surface runs, i never ran into ||Charybdis||, i'm loosing my mind over this

(Like please give the pitch-black stone a miniboss boss rush or a guaranteed thessaly run with it)

[raw patrol]

hestia has to be my fav

she's got such a fun grandma energy

love it

[raw patrol]

doesnt it need for u to win once with hecate and poly

[frail badge]

||you also need to kill Charybdis once||

Which shares a encounter pool with: Circe, fountain, mid-shop, double boon room and the mini boss with a gun

[restive ibex]

man i love being unable to fix this save issue since my computer itself is refusing to cooperate

[raw patrol]

ah

[ashen berry]

hate this boss with vow of rivals

he makes fight so intense tho

[raw patrol]

i think i just got one of the best builds ever

and one of my luckiest ones too

i just melted half of ||the doggo||'s hp in less than 3 seconds

[median plinth]

I thought you were always guarenteed a miniboss in each biome?

but now that I think about it, that can't be right since it's just tentacles and the gun dude, and I don't think I meet them that often

[frail badge]

No, never guaranteed. Unless you're at ||Mt.Olympus's top||

[median plinth]

really? I didn't know that. So theoretically you can miss the miniboss in every biome?

not just "didn't take it" but "never offered" ?

[cedar tide]

What’s the best duo boon
For ares?

[raw patrol]

hestia and zooz

hestia deals wounds with the duo, and wounds deal vengeance

[crude dragon]

If you're doing the Hestia Duo for Ares, you want to actively avoid Wounds cores, because the fireballs still respect the Wounds timer

His blade Duos are also good, but you need both

[cedar tide]

What are wound cores haha

[crude dragon]

Core boons that inflict Wounds

So his Attack and Special

[raw patrol]

i love using ares duos on fists

[cedar tide]

Aahh okay thx

Also some for beating typhon cuz like I’ve been beating chronos consistently but I’m having like real trouble with typhon

[crude dragon]

Get up in his face

Despite what you might think, the safest place you can be in that arena is right up against him

[raw patrol]

guys check out how lucky i got this run #h2-victory-boasting

[cedar tide]

If I’m doing hestia Ares which other boons should I for

[raw patrol]

zooz and apollo

[cedar tide]

Thxxx

[raw patrol]

their vengeance boons will hit everytime u wound someone

[timid vigil]

Just do the full fireball build it's funny

If you wanna go for hestia/ares

[raw patrol]

w h e e z e

i love hestia

[ashen berry]

duo boon with zeus go hard

after wounding activates lightning

[frail badge]

Yup, it has already happened to me in multiple places

Every hell region at leaste once.
But that happens especially in Thessaly

[native bramble]

do i have to spoiler surface final boss?

in any case, after having gotten to him for the first time, i cant stand him

[cunning laurel]

you dont have to no

[steel cape]

just had my first ||zag|| fight and ooh ma gawd

[wide talon]

Hey guys

[devout cairn]

Hey

[mortal dragon]

He’s so fast

I have beat him a few times but I don’t think it has been once with Frenzy on.

[steel cape]

i havent fough him with frenzy yet will soon as im gonna grind for the statues

[hollow jetty]

which weapon is considered the most op

or are they all very balanced

[red fox]

Medea probably

High risk high damage

But the damage is really high

[broken creek]

circe and melione staff are super super strong high fear options, but yeah theyre all pretty balanced all things considered

[nova oar]

Everything is fairly balanced (except selene) but staff and skull are the strongest

[red fox]

Some aspect might feel weaker but they never feel unplayable for me

[nova oar]

Same (except for selene)

[hollow jetty]

which is your guyss fav weapon?

[nova oar]

Coat

[broken creek]

im a circe main but hel, eos, moros, nergal are all super fun imo

[nova oar]

Hel 😒

[red fox]

Selene slander

[broken creek]

medea is super fun once you get the hang of it

[broken creek]

ik its buns at 65+ but like before then its fun 🥀

[red fox]

Lv 1 mel coat still playable

[cunning laurel]

selene deserves more hate

[nova oar]

She absolutely does

[cunning laurel]

never enough

[broken creek]

i hate selene

her boons suck, her weapon sucks, her keepsake sucks

[nova oar]

All the real ones hate selene

[broken glen]

By far the worst part of it is the varying path of stars charts. I’m playing the hex aspect. Why do I get a dinky chart with 1 purple

JUST MAKE IT CONSISTENT

[brave gate]

Guys I mostly use strength, so bear with me. If you use up the luckier tooth and get all death defiances refilled, do you keep the DD from Lucifer tooth even after unequipping it?

[hollow jetty]

at least there is a chance of getting an upgrade that can heal you from her🙂‍↕️

[broken creek]

no

since the luckier tooth dd is its own thing

[broken glen]

I’m fairly sure the slot for luckier tooth is tied to the keepsake, so you’ll lose it if you unequip it

[nova oar]

No

[nova oar]

One of her worst hexes btw

[hollow jetty]

you can never have too much health

[nova oar]

You only need like 1-200

[steel cape]

only kinda usefull with its godesnt

[nova oar]

All of them are like that outside of wolf howl and twilight curse

[steel cape]

yeah true

[red fox]

Phase shift don't really need godsent anyway

But phase shift is kinda weird

[nova oar]

I never take it anyway

[brave gate]

https://imgur.com/a/OUue1KY

[nova oar]

I have war trauma

[steel cape]

phase shift is the one with the aphro godsent right?

[red fox]

Demeter

[steel cape]

oh right

[red fox]

Aphro is dark side

[steel cape]

idk the names really

[brave gate]

When considering that the vast amount of players aren’t doing 40-50+ fear, moon water is good

[steel cape]

does dark sides godsent work with the aphro/apollo duo?

[nova oar]

😒

[brave gate]

That’s the one that makes you create a heat throb when an enemy misses, right?

[mortal dragon]

Yeah moon water saved a few runs for me when I stacked it high

[brave gate]

If so, I assume not since dark side specifically makes you impervious which isn’t the same as dodging

[steel cape]

no thats the one that gives + 2 hearththrobs when you spawn one

[brave gate]

Ah

[mortal dragon]

I remember when it healed 30 at base damn it was like objectively the best.

[brave gate]

Yeah

Even know it’s still good because of the upgrade that “makes you heal all damage taken in the past 2 seconds”

[mortal dragon]

Yeah honestly Selene gets an outsized amount of hate ever since early access began people have complained about hexes.

[brave gate]

Don’t see why not then

[steel cape]

turbo throbing i should try to get that combo

but selene rng is annoying

[brave gate]

I don’t like Total Eclipse or Lunar Ray, but the others are good to have if I’m doing a magic heavy build

[brave gate]

Go surface so you can purchase the Selene upgrades from the Hermes Shrines

And I feel ephyra almost always has a Selene reward

[mortal dragon]

Not always but usually.

[steel cape]

yepp

[brave gate]

More common than Medea’s room I’d say

[steel cape]

and typhon big hitbox so all the heartthrob will hit

[brave gate]

Also try to get the Area duo + the Area legendary lmao

[steel cape]

oh dw ive done that before

i wanna try to make a zoom build and just run fast

or become minigun

[brave gate]

I was playing with the Nyx coat and got the Hermes boon that makes omega moves faster which applies to the omega sprint

Also had some other sprint buffs and it was soooooo fast lol

Or just go with Mel Coat which is inherently fast

[steel cape]

now only if you had maxed plasma

wich doubles speed

idk if its additive or pecentile

[brave gate]

No clue. Probably works the same way damage buffs stack

[steel cape]

additive then

[brave gate]

Imagine if the Hades 1 boon that “increased your damage based on your speed” was in the game

@steel cape Oh super fast Supay builds are fun

[steel cape]

ahh dont have hidden aspects yet

noticed very late that mel aspects didnt require the fear recource to upgrade

also is it just me ot is gale never showing up?

[crude dragon]

She's guaranteed to spawn in the Olympus end shop

[steel cape]

okay i may be blind then

[broken creek]

its specifically the pre prom shop no?? and shes like right by the exit door

[steel cape]

ahh thats why

i shop and run to the door

[shrewd oak]

oh wow i just got the first statue. it sure is. interesting

[brave gate]

Schelmeus is a visionary

Only need 3 more keepsakes to get to max level. I have White Antler at rank 2 and Bell and Crystal Figurine at rank 1

[steel cape]

woo bell ty eris

[sturdy magnet]

Listening to Fated Glory whenever the sun rises is such a beauty

[steel cape]

i was vibin with the credits fr

[lime crest]

help

i did something and now some of my gifts are at 4 stars

and i have no idea what i did or if this is permanent

[shadow olive]

wow I just pulled off the most frame perfect artemis riposte on the 1st Prometheus Aetos attack, feels good. Shame I cant use this aspect that well on purpose lol

[broken creek]

Are you taking boons without reading 😭 its cherished heirloom, hera + demeter duo

[crude dragon]

Hera/Demeter Duo

[broken creek]

Its only for the run

[timid hatch]

Wow o.o

First time beating Scylla, got all the way to Cerberus, thought I was going to win with how fast his first phase melted but his second phase is brutal

[tawdry narwhal]

Good evening! Does anyone have a link to a google sheet with the total items needed for all upgrades/incantations?

[restive stump]

Hey all. Was curious if there any other players like myself that don’t use Magick all that often? I think I only ever use cast on occasion but rarely my omega moves. Feels like it slows me down but maybe I’m missing something 😐

Either way, 10/10 game. Finally “beat it” last night and still feel like there’s so much to do!

[torn otter]

I waited 10 min, ok so this game is hurting me

I need a maxed out safe file and a way to import it into my game

Ive spent nearly 200 hours trying to get 1 single incantation which is bravery of familiar spirits

And im just not getting it

[agile bridge]

what weapon u on

[broken creek]

Lots of the strong and consistent weapons are little to no magic actually

But some like charon, any of the flames, or nyx(kinda) all wanna use mana

[agile bridge]

also stacking circe staff with strong cast on any cast boon is crazy damage

i checked the speedrun leaderboards and if i had recorded my run id be around 70-80th place on surface with that build

[restive stump]

I’ve been having my best runs with maxed out aspect of melinoe skulls, and then for keepsakes god-god-knuckle bones-tooth

Love how quick that weapon is especially with the right hammer upgrades. super fun

I should probably try other things out lol

[broken creek]

Yeah mel skull is super strong and takes 0 mana

The other weapons are super fun! Im a bit stuck with high fear mindset so im kinda stuck doing circe 67f attempts but its a super fun and balanced game

[restive stump]

Don’t hate me, but i don’t even know what high fear is yet or at least haven’t messed with it yet 😐

[broken creek]

Thats fine, most of the regulars in builds chat are 45+ fear players, achievements and game stuff only acknowledge up to 32

[restive stump]

And when I say I don’t know what high fear is I mean I don’t really know what you’re talking about but I’m guessing it has to do with the thing that popped up between going up or down before a run

[broken creek]

Yeah if you played hades 1 its the heat equivalent

And if you didnt play h1 it's just the endgame difficulty system, max is 67

[restive stump]

Got it! Yeah I played H1 but never messed with the heat system much. Didn’t appeal to me but maybe I should change my tune for Hades 2

[broken creek]

In h2 it's a lot nicer, less rng when it comes to high end stuff so id recommend it if you do really enjoy the games feel

[restive stump]

Very cool, thank you

[lime crest]

oh! i misread it and thought it would give +1 to all my current and future boons lmao

[restive stump]

Without spoilers, when you say high end stuff @broken creek is it stuff you can’t obtain otherwise or is it just rare loot?

[broken creek]

Uhhhh in h1 yk how there was the rewards in the training ground? H2 has the same thing, similar fear amounts too

[restive stump]

Totally know what you’re talking about

[broken creek]

Ok lol well its nothing important unless you like achievement hunting

[restive stump]

I usually don’t but this game has me addicted, lol

[crude dragon]

Fear is significantly less unfair than Heat was

[restive stump]

Okay sweet. Thank you

[brave lily]

Hearing ||Zagreus|| ask if everyone in the House of Hades was okay.. AUGH I MISS THEM ALL SO MUCH

[shrewd oak]

well i. i think i beat the game

this is absolute peak

[final saddle]

Good to hear (I literally just started tonight )

[shrewd oak]

enjoy it! it's so fun

now i must sleep. may hypnos bless me or smthin idk

[hardy depot]

You have 4 or more familiars?

[pallid crystal]

how to beat upgraded eris consistently? I find prometheus+hercules to be one of the easiest fights but always lose like 1-2 death defiances to her 😢

[nova oar]

Stay behind her, you can attack the bombs to blow them up

[pallid crystal]

like the bombs that spawn on the map?

blow them in advance or to damage her?

[glossy shadow]

Rivals eris tosses the big red orbs that do area damage pulses, any eris damage or any mel damage will make them explode in a stronger damage pulse (all such pulses also count as eris damage, meaning orbs can mutually detonate). I don't think exploding the orbs can hurt eris, but it's important to clear a space to stand

[pallid crystal]

ohhh ty i didnt know u could destroy them i would end up having to run further and then she gets her hit when im trying to get back in facing her

[glossy shadow]

Getting behind her keeps you safe from pretty much all of her laser attacks, bc her attacks are sweeps with a limited angle of turning and more-or-less predetermined directions that she dashes in. It's not safe behind her when she's against/on top of burning oil, so having a handle on the clean dodges remains inportant

[honest tulip]

Just want to ask for a Yes/No answer and nothing else... Will I have to make a second playthrough to get 100% achievements?

[cunning laurel]

No

[honest tulip]

Epic

[calm sorrel]

When you start getting into the rythem of the blood triad Morrigan feels really good

[royal cradle]

Ok WTF is wrong with the ||rival Chronos|| fight? It's like he can hit me through the dash's iframes.

[abstract aspen]

Hello, a little question
I activated the boatsman card but it didn't activate the divinity card, why ?

--Vaas helped me on this one, thanks !

I can't attache a screen

[buoyant matrix]

fyi dash iframes get cut short if you do any action in the middle

pressing attack/special/cast in particular can screw you

[royal cradle]

It's not like that. Even if I just dash, it seems useless. That third phase is absurd. He attacks constantly without ever leaving a single window to strike back. What are you supposed to do? Keep dodging forever until he gets bored?

[tropic ravine]

Hi, can you go in my DMs and show me your arcana load out so I can help thanks

[abstract aspen]

ok

[tropic ravine]

I think so yes

[tropic ravine]

No but you’ll probably need to play more hours than your first playthrough 😭

[slim pike]

Actually yes, when he does his rush combo, stop trying to be clever and beat him at it, just get away

there's other attacks where he's more open

[royal cradle]

You're about 5 minutes too late. I got the bastard already 🙂
And yeah, there's ample time to finish him off even if I do this...

[slim pike]

there's always a next time

[hollow crest]

what's the best Medea attack and special boons??

aphrodite/zeus/demeter?

[buoyant matrix]

attack is ares and hera, special is zeus

[hollow crest]

well the other guy thinks differently

unfortunately i've already picked up a zeus attack

[buoyant matrix]

whose the other guy

do they happen to be on reddit

[hollow crest]

#h2-builds-and-combat

im doing a 16 heat run for the first time, frenzy is negligible, but it's only the first area soo, we'll see

thought medea would be the best to deal with Frenzy 2 since no need to charge Omoves

WHY CANT I SEND IMAGES I NEED IT

are we in kindergarten why tf can't i swear

[split shuttle]

check the rules

[shrewd oak]

vow of rivals is so peak

i love scylla

[royal cradle]

Scylla is awesome 🙂

[hollow crest]

i died to chronos p2 aoe. my controller has stick drift and it went out of the safe circle zone

16 heat first attempt in 12 minutes.

i don't know how i should feel right now. angry or furious or just sad

[shrewd oak]

i still have story things to do but no idea how to do them. huh.

[broken creek]

Just learn the iframe timing so it does matter if it happens again 😌

[sharp current]

anyone know how can i unlock aspect of hel?

[broken creek]

Uhhh every skull needs to be unlocked, non mel to lvl5, talk to medea

[slim pike]

Same as the other aspects, just don't be fooled by the fact that persephone is also an NPC you can talk to in this game, it's medea you need

[sharp current]

yea thats it they are lvl 4

[cunning laurel]

only 1 needs 5

[sharp current]

medea is lvl 1 and per is lvl 4 while mel is lvl 5

[sharp current]

so i should level medea to 5 right?

[slim pike]

doesn't have to be, it can be persephone

[broken creek]

You dont need to level specifically medea to 5, persephone works just make sure you talk to medea

[slim pike]

just don't talk to persephone expecting to get a waking phrase

[sharp current]

thanks

[ashen hollow]

Is bridal glow rigged?

I always sniped the best boons

Rival eris is so washed bro

The laser is so much less dangerous than the near instant bullets that hit for 20 each

[split shuttle]

wait until you turn on max frenzy and pain

[broken creek]

I love rivals Eris when im playing high fear and she decides to clip melinoe in her toe and I take 80 damage(the rest of the fight was hitless)

[split shuttle]

classic

[cunning laurel]

plum going surface?

[hearty idol]

plum?

[split shuttle]

the dude that's the weakest 67f player

[broken creek]

Never

[loud laurel]

What is best noobie weapon when I am trying to kill typhoon and slowly farming weapon upgrades? Kinda like axe, but damage feels meh. I really like daggers ( sorry if its wrong name), but not sure how viable they are

I like something that is fast and flashy haha

[nimble rivet]

All weapons are viable

It's just the playstyle and strategy that varies

Just play what you like and enjoy

[raw patrol]

i just beat typhon in less than 90 seconds this run was so good

uncle poseidon my goat

[loud laurel]

I guess I will try that daggers, I heard hidden ones are fun

[nimble rivet]

The bachelor uncle always knows the best way to get things done

[raw patrol]

dropped the clip in #h2-victory-boasting

[loud laurel]

btw, how to get sister blades hidden thing, buy all of them and then upgrade one of them to full?

[cunning laurel]

artemis or pan to 5

[loud laurel]

oof, thank you

and need to buy all of them, or just buy one and upgrade it

[crude dragon]

You need all 3 unlocked

[ashen hollow]

Damn ||zag|| got hands

On frenzy 2 at least

Why does he deal so much dmg

[loud laurel]

holy, that parry is not that bad thing, at least for me when I am doing low fears

[mortal dragon]

Art is fun! I love getting the uber omega attack and weed killer it usually guarantees at least one 3000 damage crit per parry cycle.

It does take a bit of time to get used to; I still need to work on timing for parries.

[loud laurel]

I see, I have no clue what to take, I am just doing randomly, until I unlock upgrades etc haha, whenever I have parry, I am charging it againts attacks, its just pitty it has long cooldown

[mortal dragon]

All that time watching ||dad||made him pick up some of his moves, except faster.

[mortal dragon]

Aphro on attack is never a bad choice for the knives.

[nova oar]

H u h

Do you only do final slice runs

[loud laurel]

will check that for sure, just doing underground for upgrade mats and I have mix of everything on every attack and special haha

[nova oar]

Aphro is bad choice 90% of the time over pos or hestia

Even then I'd take Apollo or hera over her

[split shuttle]

eh for artemis o attack builds it's decent

[mortal dragon]

Yeah I guess percentage damage is less desirable because they’re fast, my bad.

I was on that omega attack mindset.

[nova oar]

She said never a bad choice for knives, for oattack builds it's fine

[split shuttle]

ah ok

fair enough

for other builds id much rather get an attack which has a curse

[nova oar]

Real

Hestia is the bestia

Or zeus.
Zeus is never a bad pick

[mortal dragon]

Zeus for opening up the lightning strikes.

[split shuttle]

plus blitz is just op

[fresh wind]

Concave stone tastes so good when you dont got someone in your ear telling you it sucks

[mortal dragon]

Yeah there was one run recently I had where my 2nd most damage on blitz and it was pretty close.

Hate to give credit to Zeus but 😔

[nova oar]

😒

[split shuttle]

concave stone is one of the few keepsakes that's still at rank 2 for me

that's how much it sucks (for me)

[fresh wind]

If nothing else it definitely has the most useless upgrades lol

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/HGaSgVm

Once again reposting my keepsake tierlist (slight postgame spoilers)

[broken creek]

I love concave stone when it does nothing for the entire region, gives me zeus dash(i didnt want it), then gets replaced by something actually useful

[queen cosmos]

GUYS

Sssssssssssssss

[nova oar]

Um actually there are women here

[fresh wind]

Eris' keepsake was the last ones I ranked up

[queen cosmos]

Ssssssssssssssssssssssssss 🐍

[slim pike]

I love being forced to take a sacrifice boon that bricks my build

[nova oar]

I would take bell over stone

[queen cosmos]

I have to reveal my sins

[slim pike]

or taking Queen's Ransom on my blitz build

[broken creek]

Or when im on a denial run and it forces me to switch out something bricking my build

[fresh wind]

The "take a boon that bricks my build" thing has never happened to me because I never take it that late in a run

[mortal dragon]

I pick it up if I’m running a Hermes dodge build and also if I’m boon-poor in region two

[short gust]

GUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYS

[queen cosmos]

I was tired of grinding for grasp so I just got 5000 of all resources to upgrade my grasp and now I disbalanced the entire economy and progression 🥲

[short gust]

Can i somehow upgrade my max health during trial of doom

[nova oar]

Have you considered just picking a better keepsake

[slim pike]

Why? Just rush it, and take the shop to save time

[nova oar]

Have you considered not getting hit

[nova oar]

Have you considered not being poor

Y'all need to do alot of considering

[short gust]

rush
not get hit

[queen cosmos]

No how is it

[timid vigil]

what

[short gust]

ummm, so which? X D

i am trying hard but not getting hit at sirens is kinda hard ngl

[mortal dragon]

Have you considered not being a downer?

[fresh wind]

Have people who bricked their builds with concave stone ever considered that they can just save scum

[loud laurel]

when I receive that purple thingy for my weapon, I can die now and go again for next boss, right? rather than finishing run

[short gust]

i... did... impossible.

[broken creek]

Why tf would we wanna save scum to make up for a bad keepsake

[queen cosmos]

🐍

[fresh wind]

For the consideration

[broken creek]

"Just cheat bro" like thanks man ill consider it

[short gust]

cause i was confused right, even when i take hearts or something my health doesn't grow, is it just stuck at 30?

[queen cosmos]

Guysssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

And girlssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Whats the best aspect for the daggers

[short gust]

or do some boons work

[mortal dragon]

and nb palsssssss

[timid vigil]

ok card and hammer are not that bad

[nova oar]

Fast clears are safe clears

[nova oar]

I have a personal vendetta

[broken creek]

Plus its a hoards0 oceanus 😭 theres like 3 enemies a room max

[nova oar]

Hidden

[queen cosmos]

Huh

There are hidden aspects?

[nova oar]

The hidden aspect

[timid vigil]

fair

[nova oar]

Only good blades aspect

[nova oar]

Antler moment

[short gust]

oh ur so real, i used to think that too

[queen cosmos]

I upgraded melinoe to V cuz It looked simpler

[nova oar]

You need a non mel aspect at rank 5

[timid vigil]

this is what antler does, max health is set to 30

[short gust]

at first i deadass thought 30, is 30 up

[nova oar]

I see you're new around here

[queen cosmos]

WHAT, why discrimination with melinoe?

[nova oar]

Just the unlock requirements for them

[short gust]

but alright, guess i'll count that i get moon water

[timid vigil]

cause mel aspects dont need nightmare, so they require you to upgrade another one

[queen cosmos]

Oh

[mortal dragon]

No I actually was here in early access, but the vibes were a lot less sweaty then.

[queen cosmos]

The first time I saw typhon was as a spoiler and I thought he was defending the gates to something as cerberus

[timid vigil]

you need to have all aspects unlocked and upgrade a non-mel aspect to rank 5 then talk to a specific npc

to get the hidden aspects

and theyre all great

[queen cosmos]

What is this an escape room puzzle?

[short gust]

Spiritual Affirmation does work for 30max hp tho. lol

[nova oar]

I do it for s**s and gigs 😭

[nova oar]

Hel:

[slim pike]

Hel is an aspect of all time

[royal cradle]

Just met || Typhon Phase 3 || for the first time...
🤣 🤣 😂 😅 😭

[timid vigil]

i forgot hel exists

[nova oar]

Bablity moment

[slim pike]

it's also exagryph dressed up as a skull

[nova oar]

So does everyone else

[queen cosmos]

It looks melinoe is stronger than zeus smh

[slim pike]

Hel is fun tbh, it just has the misfortune of existing with medea

[nova oar]

It's transgender exagryph

[timid vigil]

its super simple, to the point where most people will just get them if you play the game enough

[nova oar]

And needing one of three boons to be good

[timid vigil]

most thing in hades can be unlocked if you just play the game

[slim pike]

kinda like Momus existing with like, 3 S tier aspects

[timid vigil]

even without knowing pre requisites

i myself didn't know of the requirements until like a few days ago

[queen cosmos]

I just complete the game with every weapon and every cool looking aspect and thats all

[slim pike]

Momus is good, it's just.... not as good as literally every other staff aspect

[timid vigil]

i still think staff has overall the best set of aspects

[nova oar]

Momus is only bad because it's surrounded by perfection

[timid vigil]

not a single bad one, momus is just... less good

[slim pike]

Precisely my point

[queen cosmos]

Unfortunately I haven't saw much cool looking aspects in hades 2 which directly affect gameplay and looks, most of them are stats I see here, or maybe I have just seen the daggers

[slim pike]

that repeating omega thing would also be kinda hilariously busted on other weapons

[nova oar]

Charon:

[slim pike]

imagine that on the coat with the missile salvo

[nova oar]

Oh that would be so peak

[timid vigil]

pretty much all aspects affect gameplay a lot, and they do look really cool

[nova oar]

Or skull oattack

[queen cosmos]

Which one do you like

[timid vigil]

all of them except selene coat

[nova oar]

Shiva my beloved

[nova oar]

BASED ASF

[royal cradle]

By the way, I'm still missing 3 of the hidden aspects. Do I need to do something specific to unlock them?

[nova oar]

We hate selene coat

[timid vigil]

but my favorite is moros torches and mel staff

[mortal dragon]

Shiva is so hard to get used to.

[slim pike]

Yes, level 5 non-mel aspect, then talk to the NPC that is represented by aspect #2 of that weapon

[timid vigil]

i would fw shiva SOO MUCH if it didnt have that atrocious dash strike

[mortal dragon]

I failed that trial soooo many times.

Although that might have just been Grisly Gain.

[slim pike]

And the added insult that is Mooncrest Riser

[timid vigil]

i love omega heavy aspects but i dont wanna deal with the dash strike

[slim pike]

it's kinda funny that basically every hidden-aspect-only hammer is like, a worse version of what it replaces on the other aspects

[nova oar]

Give me normal coat dash attack on shiva and I could clear 65

[timid vigil]

not as insulting as helheim charge

[nova oar]

I think helheim takes the cake as the worst hammer

[hollow crest]

250 hrs in, i can't beat Vow 1 Hecate with Frenzy 2, tf is wrong with me..

[slim pike]

It's trying it's best! That would be broken af on literally any other aspect of any other weapon

[nova oar]

If you've never used frenzy then yeah makes sense

[slim pike]

the problem isn't the hammer, it's the charge time on Hel oAttack

[nova oar]

Hel is really just an aspect

[mortal dragon]

I never have gone above frenzy 1 I can’t imagine.

[queen cosmos]

The only complain about hades 2 I have the weapons except the daggers feel slower in comparison to hades for me, now even tho hades also had slow weapons like shield or the bow, you kind of had time to pull their moves which in hades 2 you kind of don't as I found enemies in hades 2 much faster and much chaotic

[nova oar]

I turned on frenzy 2 after my first win and never took it off

Although very much a sweat thing to do

[ashen hollow]

Concave stone is 1 bonus boon for a whole keepsafe, which in THIS economy is a little

[nova oar]

But you get used to it, really isn't much harder after a while

[timid vigil]

if you want to dash strike and attack fast yeah blades is the weapon but i wouldnt say its the only "fast" one

[queen cosmos]

The speed of the starting enemies in hades 2 is comparable to the ones in the temple of styx of hades 1

Could you sprint in hades 1?

[ashen hollow]

No

[queen cosmos]

Yeah I remembered

[royal cradle]

Maybe it's just a hunch but... Hades' keepsake is the best, right?

[slim pike]

like, demonic cell is a worse leaden spark, mooncrest riser is the Exhaust Riser we have at home. Heaven Splitter is... okay I guess. Scarab etchings is no wicked thrasher at all, Sinister pinion is... well it isn't trick knives is it?

[queen cosmos]

Maybe thats the reason

[nova oar]

Yes

[queen cosmos]

Some enemies are impossible to dodge without sprinting

And when stopping its insane

[ashen hollow]

All the post game stuff is absurdly busted yes

[nova oar]

Except card, that's buns

[slim pike]

Wailers in erebus are a tutorial enemy to teach you to actually drop your cast to slow down enemies

[queen cosmos]

I hate those wailers

[timid vigil]

eh i think mel would be more broken with 2 dashes instead of sprint

but i'm glad she doesnt have

[queen cosmos]

I never thought of that

[nova oar]

Especially with cast

[queen cosmos]

It should be a grasp card

[timid vigil]

the rootstalker miniboss (i think thats the name) is pretty much a tutorial on sprinting

[slim pike]

the cast slows down enemies, that's what it does. Or at least it was its primary intended function until about EA 2 or 3

[ashen hollow]

Wdym? Cards can force some very funny stuff

[weak horizon]

all the attacks in the game are balanced around having one dash

[queen cosmos]

Can you skip their animations with dash?

[weak horizon]

i mean enemies attacks

[ashen hollow]

It obviously isn't as good as pom but it's not bad

[slim pike]

that was when every cast boon gained damage on normal cast

[mortal dragon]

Card gives me rarity upgrades which are harder to get than poms.

[nova oar]

Ok it's not bad I just don't like it, rarity is overrated

[slim pike]

but rarity isn't really that good

[weak horizon]

i like card in 2nd or 3rd cabinet if you already have pom

[queen cosmos]

Stopping in this game is basically an death sentence

[weak horizon]

its funny

[nova oar]

I would never take it in any scenario

[slim pike]

What were we saying about hel's oAttack?

[queen cosmos]

I always spam dash not knowing where im going but still somehow survive

[queen cosmos]

Hel what

[weak horizon]

i was trying to clean up prophecies and force heph legendary and just went through 2 full runs where i got all prereqs in 1st zone and didnt get it in either smile

[nova oar]

Always pom->fig/chrolex->onion/droplet/amulet/whatever I need->antler/pin

[nova oar]

Hidden skull aspect

[hollow crest]

i had my first ever 16 heat run with frenzy 2, had 0 issues with Medea up until Chronos P2. i forgot it's 40% faster, died to the AOE.....

[ashen hollow]

Chrolex is such a sick name

[queen cosmos]

Hades 2 might help me remove the 2 dash mirror upgrade and switch it with a green, I could never give it up

[fresh wind]

Does taking Fig Leaf deactivate JPom?

[nova oar]

Medea for rivals hec is rough, easy to outrun sheep ball tho

[slim pike]

just kinda agreeing that staying still is a terrible idea, yet to use hel's oAttack, you have to basically stand still long enough for the seasons to change

[nova oar]

It's a good 2-3 seconds

[hollow crest]

i couldn't outrun anything. Hecate is the worst boss in this game by far, always making herself invulenarble and summons stupid minions

[timid vigil]

Hence why I also hate tranquil gain

[queen cosmos]

The boss fights in this game looks so intimidating when you look a tutorial and have to memorise a thousand attacks but when you actually fight them, the fight ends in 20 seconds

[queen cosmos]

ESPECIALLY CHRONOS

[hollow crest]

it's just a terribly designed boss. let me do as much damage as i can and dodge. i don't want to wait out phases and her invincibilities

doghsit ass boss

[queen cosmos]

Wait who is medea

[hollow crest]

aspect of Medea skull

[queen cosmos]

Oh

[ashen hollow]

Elphyra npc

Also aspect yeah

[slim pike]

Sometimes it's actually really good

but it's very aspect specific, and oddly even hex specific

[queen cosmos]

We want zagreus skin in hades

[timid vigil]

Yeah I know, wolf howl thing

[queen cosmos]

2

[timid vigil]

I still don't like it

[slim pike]

Phase shift too

and just supay, since autofires don't interrupt it

[mortal dragon]

Hasn’t he been thru enough, leave his skin on him.

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/xXUyMq3

This is how I do the fight

[timid vigil]

I kinda wish the Regen was a bit smaller but you could still move/sprint. Just not attack

[slim pike]

And that's with The sorceress

[hollow crest]

Pom is used on high heat bcs of Void yeah?

[slim pike]

goodness knows how you're supposed to use it without arcana

[timid vigil]

Yes but even without void

[ashen hollow]

Tranquil gain and zeus gain are basically the same thing anyway

[timid vigil]

4 lvls on all boons is broken

[slim pike]

it's also wonky since boons have vary different pom scalings

[ashen hollow]

It last even if you unequip it

[slim pike]

or sometimes none at all

[nova oar]

No it's just busted in general

[queen cosmos]

Hades 2, also even men could fall for zagreus

[hollow crest]

i see, thanks

[ashen hollow]

That's the busted part

[nova oar]

Void isn't turned on till after 62

[hollow crest]

void is the worst obivously yeah

[slim pike]

worst fear/difficulty ratio

[nova oar]

Yep

[hollow crest]

well your first half of the fight is identical to mine. i understand the spacing, attack patterns and my windows of opportunity

[slim pike]

Denial is miserable too

[mortal dragon]

What?

[hollow crest]

yet i take like 50 damage in the process

[queen cosmos]

I have a friend called duckbread

[mortal dragon]

Should I take forfeit before denial?

[queen cosmos]

Sure

[timid vigil]

I prefer denial

[nova oar]

Which moves are hitting you, or are you getting clipped by everything

[ashen hollow]

Denial is just sad

[timid vigil]

Onion not only sucks it's just not fun

[nova oar]

I leave forfeit off until 55f

[hollow crest]

absolutely everything. chipped bit by bit. can never outrun her black fat projectile spam. and the little ones which home in now

[ashen hollow]

Isn't onion just really bad pin

[hollow crest]

whenever i'm trying to get the little minions i get clipped by her wide AoEs

[timid vigil]

Denial is kinda like whatever if you know what you're doing

[mortal dragon]

I’m at the point where I’m getting up to 24/32; don’t care about higher heats.

[nova oar]

You can actually stand behind the pillars to block the black fat things, visually it doesn't but the game won't register it as damage

[nova oar]

Onion is free health at scars 3

[timid vigil]

For surface forfeit is less bad because there are more boons in ephyra but for underworld it sucks soooo much

[nova oar]

She has some horrible hexes

[nova oar]

Then you can take pretty much all free fear

[timid vigil]

I was talking about "onion" referring myself to vow of forfeit I forgot about ghost onion

[hollow crest]

ofmg it's a good insight. i saw them go through and thought... thanks

[mortal dragon]

Lunar ray

[nova oar]

Annoying asf

[timid vigil]

Yeah lunar ray is my least favorite

[mortal dragon]

what is “free” fear?

[ashen hollow]

2 rank of time

[timid vigil]

Time 3

[hollow crest]

rivals eris is easy, Polyphemus is difficult, Scylla was tough.. can't imagine a no-hit, Hec is just horrible

[nova oar]

Yeah I didn't realise until a few days ago, you know you're in the right spot when the 'dodged' popup continually appears

[mortal dragon]

Not 3

[slim pike]

Lunar Ray has phase-deleting potential

[ashen hollow]

That's like as free as possible

[timid vigil]

Scars 1, denial, debt

[hollow crest]

let's spam report it so they fix it no??

[nova oar]

Timer, frenzy, rivals, denial, hubris, menace, fangs, shadow, debt 1, scars 2

[nova oar]

Eh I doubt they will

[dire sand]

What makes you doubt

[hollow crest]

wtf isn't this a dev that listens to the players

[nova oar]

They're done with the game

Very unlikely we'll get more updates or patches

[hollow crest]

also, i can NEVER tell which Hec is the real one. i ALWAYS guess the correct one last.. and take tons of damage in the process

[dire sand]

H1 had a decent amount of post launch updates

[timid vigil]

i wouldnt be surprised with a bugfix patch

[nova oar]

So things like this and the charon supernova bug will still be around

[timid vigil]

but they are so less common

[nova oar]

We've had them all alr

[timid vigil]

i stand by this being not a bug

[dire sand]

H1 had ~10 post launch updatea

Between 2020 and 2022

[nova oar]

Real hec is the only one that moves, can have a non weak status effect, and will typically be furthest away, you can also hear her when she speaks

[median plinth]

I think the bug I dislike the most is how sometimes the typhone hand/tail drop down after clearing the room

[timid vigil]

pretty sure thats intentional

[nova oar]

We had 3 patches post launch and they said they're done with the game 🤷‍♀️

[nova oar]

Did they not patch this out

[dire sand]

Where did they say that

[timid vigil]

my least favorite bug is this https://imgur.com/a/0hH4Vbd it only happened to me once and i don't want it to ever happen again 😭

[nova oar]

Cannot remember for the life of me

[dire sand]

So no source

[hollow crest]

im playing with the SFX off lol

[fresh wind]

I cant prove it but I feel like theres a weird death bug that can happen with prometheus sometimes

[median plinth]

really? I thought they did such a good job removing enemy explosions after the last enemy is cleared

[dire sand]

Just yapping for the love of the game lmao

[timid vigil]

i'm not sure, but i think it might be

[nova oar]

Yeah i don't play with sound either

[timid vigil]

it also only happens when you take a lot of time to clear the room

[median plinth]

that is very unpleasant!

[nova oar]

There is a source, just dont know where it is

[timid vigil]

even if it is a bug i kinda like it, makes the vibe of the summit even better, typhon really wants you dead

[nova oar]

Also they closed the feedback channel and have stopped interacting

[dire sand]

I mean I don't see a source for a claim so I am going to assume there is none idk

[nova oar]

There can be some jank where he spawns in enemies

[mortal dragon]

Can you F10 still?

[nova oar]

@timid vigil tell me i'm not going crazy

[nova oar]

Good question

[timid vigil]

i know they're done with the game yeah but i don't remember where i saw this

also they could just mean "no more content" and maybe they still do bugfixes?

[hollow crest]

accidentally pressed it thought my game has crashed lol

[timid vigil]

yeah

[hollow crest]

i thought these devs do patches for years after release, like Terraria, no??

[nova oar]

There's been nothing since early December and it was 5 tiny changes

[nova oar]

Not this time around

[dire sand]

Not like terraria but h1 had several patches and hotfixes up to two years after release

[hollow crest]

this is ass. hope they're making a new game, at least

[nova oar]

Doesn't mean this game gets the same treatment

[dire sand]

Tbf half of december doesnt exist for patches devs have free time too

[fresh wind]

So what's happened to me a couple times is when hes standing in his fire and his health is ticking down from scorch, there's a point where his health has seemingly hit 0 but the "death" doesnt occur and the blue fire stays up - ill try to get a recording but its happened twice

[timid vigil]

they are

[nova oar]

Is there still orange on the healthbar when this happens?

[hollow crest]

confirmed? what are the news

[timid vigil]

yeah i don't think we'll see anything

[fresh wind]

Good question, ill check - might just be my misunderstanding of scorch

[hollow crest]

since Hades 1 and 2 are so good i have no doubt the next game is gonna be even better

[dire sand]

There is this mention of devs still looking at feedback from dec. 31st which is a crazy day to still be doing tech help lmao #h2-tech-support message

[timid vigil]

i might be going crazy but i might have heard this on the interview haelian did with amir rao

[nova oar]

This would be it yeah thank you

[dire sand]

Tbf terraria is an entirely different genre of game

They're likely working on the next project as this studio does ye

[nova oar]

There's hundreds of hours of content we don't need more updates

The game is balanced with very few minor bugs

[hollow crest]

i disagree. you can always make more, since they know the formula

[dire sand]

Terraria is also more comparable to minecraft in terms of games that get constant updates

[nova oar]

If it aint broke, don't fix it

They want to work on smth else

[dire sand]

Just a different style of content that works better with permanent additions and changes

[hollow crest]

who says fix it, i'm saying add more content

[nova oar]

They don't need to add more content, there is plenty as is

[dire sand]

More is not always better

[nova oar]

More than double what's in h1

[nova oar]

Exactly

[dire sand]

Focused and small scale game design can be very good

Broad large scale as well

[timid vigil]

also mods exist

[dire sand]

Both have their pros and cons

[nova oar]

I mean you can put Mel in the hades 1 route

[timid vigil]

it feels good to destroy theseus with dark triads, banger mod

[nova oar]

I mean putting more content into hades 2 is a lot more work, you gotta fit it into the lore of the game and Greek myth, do all the art, record all the new voicelines and dialogue, the whole shebang

[loud laurel]

when I got nightmare mat at broker when I returned from run and I am short of 10 currency, it means it will be gone after next run?

[dire sand]

Yes these are the cons lol

[fresh wind]

When the $25 game that you can play for hundreds of hours doesnt have enough content

[nova oar]

Real

[median plinth]

I'm pretty sure they're just always available

[nova oar]

I got 400 hours of (mostly) pure joy outta this game

[dire sand]

Smaller scale development means your production cycle is faster etc.

[nova oar]

Always there

[nova oar]

Yeah the voice actors and musicians aren't a part of the team

[dire sand]

If you broaden the scope it takes significantly longer and quality isn't as assured, but it can work, just idk this game is fine as it is

[dire sand]

They are, just not (all) a permanent part

[loud laurel]

its saying it will be available only this night and there are some orange cloaks

clocks I mean

[dire sand]

Part time is still a part of a team lol

[nova oar]

It'll be there every night

[timid vigil]

thats a bummer i really wanted them to add a battle pass and limited-time boons!

[loud laurel]

nice, thanks!

[dire sand]

It's one a night

[nova oar]

Also orange clocks?

[dire sand]

Premium skins too

From lootboxes

[nova oar]

Where's my 40 dollar animated skins

[dire sand]

Where's my league of legends $500 Ahri skin

Real price btw

[timid vigil]

where's my crossover with hollow knight

[dire sand]

Well

[timid vigil]

100 dollar hornet skin for mel

[dire sand]

Both indie games so that's enough

e33 crossover

[nova oar]

Shaw

[loud laurel]

yes, its saying limited, I think its orange? 😄

[nova oar]

It's limited as you can only buy one at a time

[dire sand]

What if all media had a crossover in a single game and we called it fortnight

Wait

[timid vigil]

I hate so much what fortnite has become

i sound like an old person but i legit used to like it so much when it was its own thing and it was way simpler

[dire sand]

Simply never played it

[crude dragon]

I remember when Fortnite wasn't a platform

Hell, I remember when the BR was the side mode

[timid vigil]

I got into save the world after BR but yeah so much wasted potential

[wide wigeon]

do i need psyche for anything after I got 30 grasp or can I js sell it for kudos

[buoyant matrix]

you need it for a bunch of stuff yeah

whenever you no longer need a resource, it won't be marked anymore

[wide wigeon]

is there any other secret aspect of the arms ||other than shiva||

[buoyant matrix]

no, every weapon has 4 aspects

[wide wigeon]

oh damn 4 I only have 3 on all except the coat

do i need silver for that

[buoyant matrix]

there's some conditions you have to fulfill to get the awakening phrases

[wide wigeon]

yeah im guessing I gotta talk to whoever is alive that has an aspect of theirs

[buoyant matrix]

||have the three base aspects unlocked|| and ||max out the second or third||

[wide wigeon]

ah got it thanks I am never gonna get the one for the skull that one can go eat a radish

[timid vigil]

skull is goated but you're not losing much by not getting the hidden aspect

[wide wigeon]

I hate the skull tis so much worse than all the other arms

[weak horizon]

like 30 runs ago i exited a room when a new familiar was there on accident ( i think the bird) and i havent seen it since did i brick the save or what

[buoyant matrix]

that's the erebus fountain room
it can only appear when you aren't at full hp

[weak horizon]

yea but i been there a million times since

[cunning laurel]

what makes you dislike it

[buoyant matrix]

wait you mean the bird itself? it'll always be in the room until you bond with it

[weak horizon]

well clearly not

[wide wigeon]

run it back twin your save is ruined

[buoyant matrix]

do you have pet treats

[cunning laurel]

by fountain we mean during the region not end of region

[nova oar]

Alot of people just miss the bird

[weak horizon]

yes always kept one for this reason

[carmine oar]

i just kept forgetting about gale like each and every run lol

[buoyant matrix]

a lot of people just keep walking by the bird so it's very likely not broken

[wide wigeon]

its so clunky like wym I ran out of skulls js come to me and yes I know theres a daedalus that does that but it should work like that to begin with

[cunning laurel]

yk they attract when you special

[weak horizon]

i swear ive searched every inch of that room

[nova oar]

You can special and they will return

[carmine oar]

the special makes them come back to you

[nova oar]

The mid erebus fountain

[weak horizon]

yes

[wide wigeon]

I dont special i attack if it dont die I attack again

[carmine oar]

..

[nova oar]

[cunning laurel]

you gotta get a screenshot i can't imagine bird not being there

[wide wigeon]

what's the point of ||reverting the save|| anything different happens or is it js for fun?

[nova oar]

Just for fun

[wide wigeon]

im glad I didnt do it lmao it did say I can only ||do the fates prophecy after credits rolled||

yall are finding the chaos trials hard or easy?

[buoyant matrix]

most of them are easy because it's just one region

[tribal wharf]

You’ll hate Aspect of Medea then

[buoyant matrix]

trial of doom is the hardest single region trial

[wide wigeon]

which one is that

[timid vigil]

easy

[wide wigeon]

which one is that

[tribal wharf]

I actually did Trial of Doom last night

[buoyant matrix]

thanatos in oceanus with pin, you have 30 max hp with no defiances and can't get any health

[tribal wharf]

Just played things a lot more slowly than I usually do and I got lucky with a moon water hex

[wide wigeon]

ohhhh yeah that was easy I beat scylla without taking a hit

[tribal wharf]

Also the oath that makes enemies deal more damage is maxed

[wide wigeon]

15 health so had to be careful