h2-discussion

[slim pike]

Weirdest duo with bouncing phalanx

[raven perch]

I liked phalanx shot! I preferred it over athena attack/spesh

[orchid acorn]

man is THAT what im missing from the oath? that little VFX flair like the pact had

[raven perch]

Greg and Amir fighting over the controller lmfaoo

[orchid acorn]

greg is juicing

[raven perch]

You’re telling me these devs know how to game?? Inconceivable

[orchid acorn]

wall bounce damage my beloved 😔

[oak ivy]

they picked up the epic cast and not using it 😭

[orchid acorn]

he used a few times

[oak ivy]

they just fought that armored guy for 3 minutes without using it.....

[raven perch]

The whole sgg server (basically us three) backseating their gameplay

[oak ivy]

backseating is so much fun though!!

you cant blame me...

[lament surge]

The game should release quick

I want to procrastinate in work

[orchid acorn]

he's so right i hated louts when i played h1

fatass yet fast moving

[merry whale]

twitch chat plays hades (impossible)

[orchid acorn]

(conspiracy theory time)
they started a fresh file so they don't have to experience gilg

[raven perch]

Could they not simply avoid using it

[hearty fog]

Yeah, there's three other Aspects for the Fists, and two of them are really good.

[buoyant matrix]

all three hammers were special lmaoooo

[hearty fog]

The third is not-Gil.

[lament surge]

True.

[raven perch]

Playing H2, Selene just made fun of me for running Uw so much cuz I never do it

Heightened Security!

No wait

[cursive kayak]

uw?

[raven perch]

Underworld

[cursive kayak]

oh underworld

[raven perch]

Nope I was right

[indigo cypress]

They're intentionally trying to pick the worst options I can’t watch this 💀

[buoyant matrix]

engagement bait 🤑

[humble urchin]

it’s just secret unsolved meta after 5 years /s

[orchid acorn]

damn zeus every run, is this my gameplay

[granite mauve]

zag bow special was the sleeper meta all along

[orchid acorn]

me looking for the thought process that lead them to making the posiedon ICD

https://tenor.com/view/modcheck-gif-19633400

[buoyant matrix]

the thought process was the pan speed record

[orchid acorn]

nah i figured it out

they looked at back at h1, saw they killed chrion close to 1.0

and said "lets do that again"

[buoyant matrix]

pls twin shot

broooo 😭

[granite mauve]

omg

sniper shot 🪦

[indigo cypress]

Sniper over triple and twin

[orchid acorn]

do any rooms flip in h2? i can't recall any

[indigo cypress]

I can't do this

[granite mauve]

its so over

[lament surge]

Yes

[granite mauve]

they're ragebaiting us

[indigo cypress]

The slicer Erebus miniboss for sure

[orchid acorn]

isn't that just entering from a different side

[tranquil wren]

getting ragebaited over people casually playing the game is crazy

it's not as if you need a super optimised build to beat the game

[buoyant matrix]

you WILL play optimally

[indigo cypress]

The room is mirrored, or do you mean like where entrance and exit swap

[orchid acorn]

mirrored or turning the orientation etc

like what is the slicer miniboss flipped from

[buoyant matrix]

pls jolted

grrr 😤

[indigo cypress]

On the y axis, there's two variations of it

[orchid acorn]

we're making it back to hades with this one 🔥

[granite mauve]

is this the first time they've picked an attack boon

[indigo cypress]

But it's the same map just mirrored

[buoyant matrix]

as long as next zeus boon they take jolted it's good

[indigo cypress]

And it's chain lightning on bow 😭

[granite mauve]

they're beating 65 heat with this one 🔥

[orchid acorn]

huh i didnt even notice that wasn't in h2

add it to the list of cut features from h1>h2 😔

[cursive kayak]

to be fair I don’t think it’s necessarily needed in h2?

[buoyant matrix]

watch them take tidal flourish instead of dash

[orchid acorn]

idk more replayability

[indigo cypress]

Sunken Treasure

[buoyant matrix]

oh finally

[limber summit]

russians

[orchid acorn]

if they knew that was the case why did it take months to turn the fire off in h2 thessaly

[indigo cypress]

Lmao he wanted to take it

[orchid acorn]

(and let it be reignited STILL)

[merry whale]

dd strats

[indigo cypress]

Hades 1 rng pls force them into meta anyways

[fathom lake]

This is HADES 2 talk of all time

[granite mauve]

getting to the boss for the first time with no health thats so relatable

[orchid acorn]

tbh its bow vs meg surely this is free

[buoyant matrix]

wait what was this referencing

[orchid acorn]

miniboss skulls on regular rooms for double enemies for double rewards

[buoyant matrix]

oh yeah i never took them

too much time sink for high heat

[fathom lake]

Bow sucks

[buoyant matrix]

ragebait

[fathom lake]

Take the sworrrdddd

Yes

I hate the bow so much

[indigo cypress]

Not the add

[granite mauve]

zag sword 🤢

zag bow 😍

[orchid acorn]

so real i liked sword until i found out about dash strike meta

then it ruined it for me.

Arthur aspect master race

[granite mauve]

I like dash strikes but I admit they get boring quickly

[indigo cypress]

Idk Aspect of Nemesis with the double dash attack was pretty good

[granite mauve]

arthur big bonk big damage is more fun

[fathom lake]

Im on the Arthur sword big bok meta

200 dmg 🤤

[granite mauve]

and that turns into 2000 dmg in styx

[fathom lake]

YEs

[orchid acorn]

zag spear yessss

[fathom lake]

Love it

[orchid acorn]

down with shield

[granite mauve]

zag spear SUCKS!!!

[orchid acorn]

remove it infact just have 5 weapons

[fathom lake]

Achilles Spear was actually really fun

[granite mauve]

I cant live without beowulf

[orchid acorn]

i actually didn't like bullrush

[fathom lake]

The shield should have gotten nerf to death

[orchid acorn]

i liked just throwing the spear

if the game gave me the hammer that made the spear bounce

[fathom lake]

INstead we got the Double beowulf Cast meta

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-i-lost-lost-kreygasm-rage-gif-16491145

[indigo cypress]

But did u ever try it with Ares x Poseidon cast 😈

[buoyant matrix]

spear should've had explosive launcher baked in

[fathom lake]

And the Zeus Shiel brainrot

[orchid acorn]

calls are so goated compared to hexes 😭

[fathom lake]

HArd pass

[granite mauve]

spear is my least favorite weapon because you just end up never using the cool spin attack

achilles cast builds are fun though

[fathom lake]

I really liked the soin attack

[orchid acorn]

god spear special is so fun to use just looking at them using it brings back memories

[cursive kayak]

i used the spin attack esp with hades aspect

[indigo cypress]

I mean if did get nerfed now we only have one weapon which could beat max heat 😪

[fathom lake]

this kinda made me want to go back to hades 1 but theres no ace thre

[granite mauve]

its just really weak unless you get 2 spin hammers on hades spear

[sour flower]

#h1-builds-and-combat

[merry whale]

yea spin doesn't hold up much late game (in terms of like higher heat) but spear spin was still fun af to use

[sour flower]

#h1-builds-and-combat

[fathom lake]

Nuh uh

[granite mauve]

this is hades 1 discussion now

[orchid acorn]

hades 1 new patch dropped
shield now has durability, after taking 100 damage it breaks and you have no weapon for 5 seconds

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[fathom lake]

I admit it

[merry whale]

this channel has gone off topic for way longer for way more varied topics i think h1 discussion is fine

[sour flower]

lol if you guys wanna be lawless anarchists go for it, a lot of zag energy in this chat

[cursive kayak]

yeah weren’t yall were talking about delaware the other day lmao

[sour flower]

melinoe would appreciate a well organized discord server

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[granite mauve]

[fathom lake]

I used the shield to survive the timed rooma

[indigo cypress]

Eh AD will step in if needed 🤷

[granite mauve]

🔫

[fathom lake]

Melinoe has 30 hp

[sour flower]

okay well you guys do that and ill do what i think is right

#h1-builds-and-combat

[granite mauve]

the eyes!

[fathom lake]

YEs

They switch side

[indigo cypress]

Wait why are u linking to builds and combat and not h1 discussion anyways 😭

[merry whale]

what's right is not always right B) (fades into the distance)

[sour flower]

because you were discussing builds and combat

[orchid acorn]

I KNEW THAT ANGLE WAS OFF IN THE HADES 2 TARTARUS MIDSHOP

its so different

[indigo cypress]

Builds and combat is mainly for ppl asking for advice and trying to get better at the game

We aren't helping anyone just yapping

[merry whale]

we can backseat tho !!!!

[granite mauve]

doomstone is harder than rivals typhon prove me wrong

[fathom lake]

I wont

[buoyant matrix]

APHRO ATTACK RAAAAH

[indigo cypress]

Now that I think ab it every region except Elysium had a returning enemy in H2 somehow right

Doomstones and fists from Tartarus, the Asphodel enemies, and then Satyrs from Styx

[orchid acorn]

thugs are in h2 too

[granite mauve]

numbskulls are also in hades 2

[indigo cypress]

I guess Elysium is kinda represented thru Vow of Return

[orchid acorn]

satyrs.... aren't the same technically so i mean

[fathom lake]

Spin To WIn was so good they turned it into a built in HAdes 2

[orchid acorn]

debatably if you can count them

[merry whale]

it'd be funny if the elysium boss was actually just thug

[orchid acorn]

if the satyrs count you could argue the self destructing chariots kinda are in h2

just a new model

[indigo cypress]

Well even if we don’t count Satyr Worshippers Tiny Vermin's back as King Vermin

[merry whale]

they should turn the rats into the chariots

so satyr summoners can summon chariots

[indigo cypress]

Pinheads or a diff enemy? Bc they’re def different from those

[orchid acorn]

pinheads and the eyeballs that self destruct on contact with mel

[crude pulsar]

I...cant wait for next week

Im so excited.

[fathom lake]

8 Days 🗣️ 🎸

[orchid acorn]

close enough with run into mel > self destruct behavior

[fathom lake]

Spear with Apollo Attack would have gone hard

[orchid acorn]

esp since satyrs work differently compared to h1 besides just being satyrs

[fathom lake]

Also the spin attack its technically an omega

[buoyant matrix]

arthur 🔥

[crude pulsar]

So yall, honest question. Do you like the weapons in hades 2 more then hades 1?

[orchid acorn]

hell yes

[fathom lake]

saaammmeee

[buoyant matrix]

hades 2

[orchid acorn]

hades 1 weapons were lowkey buns

[indigo cypress]

Okay scratch satyrs Tiny to King Vermin 😭

[crude pulsar]

Idk if I can ever go back to hades 1

[night cedar]

Haven't played since EA first released, giving it a run through now having a blast! Music is S tier as always

[sour flower]

100%, way more interesting

[crude pulsar]

these weapons are so fire

[orchid acorn]

like 1 aspect per weapon i liked

[fathom lake]

Yes but i miss the Hades 1 weapons
Specially with Hades 2 boons

[orchid acorn]

meanwhile hades 2 i near universally like everything

[sour flower]

i was thinking this yesterday! i wanted to replay h1 but i dont think i can

[little frost]

I don't think I can tbh

where sprint

[fathom lake]

Theres no rarify in the keepsakes
I cannot live without that now

[granite mauve]

pray to hermes

[night cedar]

I just miss my gun rail

[orchid acorn]

weapons i don't like in hades 2:

Momus.
Pan(after all the nerfs, before it was great)
Supay
Mel axe if only on balance technicality, i think its fine if i remove balance from the equation
Mel skull

[crude pulsar]

omg that keepsake that turns a low level boon into a heroic one....

[sour flower]

oh wow really? i forgot that. i do suppose its made up for with the whole companion thing (i forgot what its called where you call someone to help you for a bit)

[indigo cypress]

It's kinda alr built in but it's chance-based ig

[crude pulsar]

you dont like the mel axe?!

[daring sun]

what does the anvil do?

[orchid acorn]

modifies your weapon in some way

[night cedar]

Also did they change the dodge since release?

I remember it being.. different

[fathom lake]

I dont like Hades 2 Anvils

[orchid acorn]

yes, if you remember the arcana card swift runner that became basekit

[indigo cypress]

Trade 1 hammer for 2 different hammers

[fathom lake]

They feel too EHhhh

[elfin heron]

I hated all the weapons until I played with all and figured it out now I love them all almost equally

[night cedar]

Ahh that

[crude pulsar]

its for people who love gambling

[night cedar]

s dope

[sour flower]

i dont like pan because of how blatantly its just a worse version of chiron.. what are the nerfs youre referring to?

[crude pulsar]

The glow up on the torches is insane

[sour flower]

also my experience with most weapons in both games

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

[buoyant matrix]

they barely even appear

[orchid acorn]

i like mel axe in the moveset department, but balance wise i have no reason to use it compared to thanatos or nergal

[fathom lake]

Mel Axe its for the niche of using only the Normal atack

[sour flower]

dude coming back to EA last week after not playing since the very first patch, torches and skull went from un-useable for me to some of my fav weapons

[crude pulsar]

I guess so, but the raw stat ups makes it my go to outside of the hidden aspect

[crude pulsar]

have you gotten the hidden aspect for the torches yet?

[fathom lake]

I miss old torches i miss them a lot

[sour flower]

they did. i wish they would revert it to how it was on release but i realize im in the minority here lol

[elfin heron]

lol but fr twin flames my fav

[indigo cypress]

Torch rework was awful initially

[fathom lake]

Part of me really wants Supay to just be old torches

[sour flower]

yeah i am not a fan at all though, i really hate that aspect

[indigo cypress]

The rework needed a rework

[night cedar]

It definitely felt clunky but that's only because I was fresh off a Hades 1 play through, I'm sure I could have gotten used to it.

[crude pulsar]

interesting, why so?

[orchid acorn]

torch rework was peak initially for the most part.

Only two issues - initial buggy eos and the omega special is too far away

buggy eos has been fixed so its fine now

[crude pulsar]

I love my vampire surviviors in hades 2 weapon

🤣

[fathom lake]

I loved it but now its very boring after all the changes

[sour flower]

the auto-attacking feels so boring to me personally. just turn my brain off and run around 😭 all the other hidden aspects are awesome i just dont like supay

[indigo cypress]

This was also before special speed and damage tho so it was basically useless without Triple Comet and stacking

[sour flower]

eos is my fav torch aspect for some reason

[fathom lake]

THe damage was nerfed to oblivion and it doesnt even staggers enemies

[night cedar]

I've seen people mention blocking on axe, am I missing something?

[orchid acorn]

supay was worth using when rush damage was high. now its just boring and weak

[fathom lake]

Moros 🤤

The aspect

[crude pulsar]

it was given to the coat instead

[orchid acorn]

axe has had its block removed.

[night cedar]

Ahh ok just making sure. Thanks

[orchid acorn]

thats like a year old atp

[night cedar]

Games had a lot of changes so info is spotty on google

[fathom lake]

it was very clunky to me
Never liked it
But the new special its worse

[granite mauve]

supay will be #1 aspect in 8 days!

🙏

[sour flower]

same here, felt clunky coming from hades 1 but i got used to it within like 10-15 runs and honestly the dash having a delay really set melinoe apart from zag and made me have to really lock in when it came to dodging stuff

[orchid acorn]

the new special is literally an afterthought

[night cedar]

The charge time on the axe special is looooong

[orchid acorn]

"We gotta remove the block but there needs to be a special"

[fathom lake]

The special its worth it

[orchid acorn]

"idk just throw a triple hit low damage on the animation"

[sour flower]

both... both 🤤

[crude pulsar]

I LOVE supay so much, but it aint beating the hidden aspect on the staff or dagger

[fathom lake]

OMG its literally that

Its like morrigan special
But just the normal special

[sour flower]

yea i agree they couldve done better

[indigo cypress]

Wave Strike on bow attack??? I'm done

[sour flower]

what boons do yall run on anubis?

[fathom lake]

I dont

[elfin forge]

Do you think the launch will have a good amount of content?

[fathom lake]

Take circe instead

[fathom lake]

Yes
But not A LOT more than we have rn

[orchid acorn]

hestia
posiedon
zeus

[sour flower]

yea circe is my fav staff, trying an anubis run right now and just doesnt feel right

[fathom lake]

Circe with Poseidon cast 🤤

[elfin forge]

but more is that what your're saying?

[fathom lake]

Yep

[sour flower]

ok i figured, i thought i saw someone on this discord say that the attack stops applying things like zeus/pos effect after 3 ticks so i wasnt sure

[indigo cypress]

Expect mostly story with some balance/rework changes and slight gameplay additions

[orchid acorn]

posiedon was bugged, but it has since been fixed

[indigo cypress]

That's only for Support Fire now bc of cap I think

[raven perch]

COULDA KEPT THAT ENERGY FOR EPHYRA

[night cedar]

Just got to the point where I could live in the overworld, the ship level design is siiiick

[orchid acorn]

zeus static shock(and support fire) has a current projectile limit of 3 at any given time though so that might be what your thinking of.

[raven perch]

THAT ONE ROOM WHERE IT’s just a teeeeny bit too wide of a gap to dash

[buoyant matrix]

or the fountain room in summit

[elfin forge]

feels like the game needs more content, i mean a lot of story not just a little

[raven perch]

Well we’ll see what we get

[orchid acorn]

gameplay content wise almost nothing is coming. Like in a % its gonna be, AT BEST, like 80% story 20% gameplay

maybe slightly more if you consider balance gameplay content

but im talking in a "new stuff" sense

[buoyant matrix]

zag will have 0 dialogue

[orchid acorn]

zag found dead in a ditch

[fathom lake]

I miss rupture from poseidon

[raven perch]

Yee I’m thinking it’ll be 90% story 10% gameplay if that

I just want Meg where Meg

[orchid acorn]

thats my estimate

[fathom lake]

im thining 80/20

[elfin forge]

we have the whole hades 1 cast to meet

[raven perch]

If we even will

[elfin forge]

at least zag, nyx , persephone and

[orchid acorn]

Maybe a few rework duos or legendaries(paid dues pls)
2-3 new keepsakes
Surface 4th transition interactable
Secret Fight/Contest

Thats it

[buoyant matrix]

mel and arty have a dialogue about zag and mel says she hasn't found him yet, i got that line VERY deep into my savefile

[raven perch]

That’s cuz it’s new

[orchid acorn]

yeah cause it was bugged

[elfin forge]

there is also the sisters

[orchid acorn]

was there since warsong iirc but had a prereq to see that dialogue already

[elfin forge]

we havent had anything about that yet

[orchid acorn]

yeah the fates are in the running for the 3rd final keepsake

[granite mauve]

hades cerby and fates?

[buoyant matrix]

zag will have 0 dialogue and there is no war in ba sing se

[orchid acorn]

cerb is not in the running, period

[fathom lake]

*You gain infinite rerolls 🗣️

[indigo cypress]

Most of the characters you're talking ab would be incorporated into crossroads npcs or post-run cutscenes, it doesn't change the general run structure

[granite mauve]

lies

cerby WILL get a keepsake!

[elfin forge]

i also want to know what will happen with dino

[orchid acorn]

The two near guaranteed people receiving a keepsake are hypnos and hades, as they already have gifting in the game currnetly, just refunded similar to hades pre 1.0

Cerb is not receiving a keepsake as he would be the 3rd slot over zag/mom/fates/nyx etc

if we even get a 3rd and final keepsake anyway

[fathom lake]

Same
Is he going to stay as the old drunnk uncle fr?

[granite mauve]

persephone is unlikely

[orchid acorn]

Yep, shes on the bottom of the list post persephone aspect rework

[indigo cypress]

We better bc one empty slot at the bottom is ugly 😤

[orchid acorn]

but the last 3 are all basically equally likely for varying reasons

[granite mauve]

I feel like the fates wouldnt have one though

[acoustic ruin]

how about a scrollbar and more keepsakes

[indigo cypress]

Unless you're gonna make a full row still ugly

[granite mauve]

the nefarious hidden 4th row of keepsakes

[elfin forge]

I want zoomout bath dialogue

[acoustic ruin]

sadly not gonna happen cause of age restrictions

[orchid acorn]

Fates have been on the fated list since EA, they clearly are gonna be important and every important NPC, barring literally enemies(and even some of them are giftable) have bonds. They could just be one time only npcs but that would be new

Zag is literally the protag of h1, he is obviously going to show up and i believe the relationship between brother/sister is something to look forward to and is a big draw to talk to the protag of the previous game.

Nyx is Night. Mel follows the will of night as a silver sister. She if nothing else has actual ingame lore supporting us talking to her

[elfin forge]

hades obviously

cant stay in chains forever

[orchid acorn]

Its more likely to expand 1 slot to the right for all rows, and that would mean we need 7 keepsakes to fill them out

[orchid acorn]

yes hes already borderline confirmed as one of the 3 slots, alongside hypnos

he literally has gifting setup in the game but returns it to us just like h1

[fathom lake]

Im betting on new Keepsake line

Theres so many charactres left

[granite mauve]

I think zagreus is most likely out of these three but it could be any of them

[orchid acorn]

An entirely new line would be insane

Thats 11 new keepsakes PLUS THE 3 WE'RE MISSING

[crude pulsar]

I wonder if all the npc's from the house of hades will come to our camp...I sure hope so

[orchid acorn]

of course they could just.... not fill it out

[granite mauve]

probably not

[orchid acorn]

but point of order - this is the keepsake cabinet after they expanded it already

[elfin forge]

why would thiey? supposedly we beat chronos

[granite mauve]

half of them probably wont even have any dialogue

[orchid acorn]

they expanded it already when they likely already have the outline for the entire game done and who would be an important NPC giftable etc

[sour flower]

you guys are such doomers omg

[crude pulsar]

Cause I want my precious friends to not be in jail

[orchid acorn]

its realistic, not dooming

[buoyant matrix]

zag will have 0 dialogue

[sour flower]

i never even once had the mindset that those characters wouldnt have dialogue lol

[acoustic ruin]

if we rescure them they will most likely stay in tartarus hall

[orchid acorn]

zag will have some dialogue

[crude pulsar]

fair

[orchid acorn]

more depends on if hes the last keepsake

[granite mauve]

zag will have 5000 lines of dialogue

[fathom lake]

The Fates are pretty much comfirmed
and
Zag its the MC from the fist game
I am NOT betting for ANYBODY else

[orchid acorn]

fates sure af aint confirmed

[crude pulsar]

imagine if zag became a 2nd playable character

[orchid acorn]

far as we know chronos killed the fates so they can't btfo him again in lore

[crude pulsar]

that would be funny

[elfin forge]

they been a big part of dialogue

[granite mauve]

impossible but still I wish

[acoustic ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053264

[crude pulsar]

in the scroll it says save us so...

[fathom lake]

MELINOE, HELPS US
-FREE THE THREE FATES

[crude pulsar]

exactly

[elfin forge]

+1

[orchid acorn]

yeah its gonna be the first ever failed fated list

fate is broken

[sour flower]

ive been thinking to myself this whole time that zag would be a friendly optional boss fight and yall are saying hes not even gonna have dialogue 😭 crazy

[orchid acorn]

🔥

[fathom lake]

Ok im betting for this too because the game ITS about saying flip to fate

[granite mauve]

[orchid acorn]

its nice to have dreams

[granite mauve]

the fates are controlling chronos and zag is controlling the fates and homer is controlling zag

[meager garden]

yall think we're gonna see zagreus at all in Hades 2????

[buoyant matrix]

zag will have 0 dialogue

[acoustic ruin]

homer is the fates

[orchid acorn]

we already have

[granite mauve]

he has a picture

[fathom lake]

Homer its Homer its Homer Simpson and this has all been a dream

[orchid acorn]

more than a picture he is literally in the game 😭

[meager garden]

nah 1.0 they patch it out
no zag allowed

[granite mauve]

and the game cuts away literally when we enter zagreus's room

[fathom lake]

Patch 1.01
-Zag removed

[acoustic ruin]

if ppl keep asking for him to be playable he surely will be removed

[granite mauve]

🧊

[orchid acorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1219645494402482226/1417565293982646473/yukxqF8.webp?ex=68cc438f&is=68caf20f&hm=85fcf840b3a67540ce4262dd70c8abb83f026806357cbf8fb9ba8d4d52e7c0b1&=&format=webp

enjoy the meme i made earlier

[verbal rampart]

Next time you go check your keepsakes, notice that there is room for actually 33 Keepsakes, but you only have 30 slots. The three remaining will probably be Hades, Persephone and Zagreus' Keepsakes

[meager garden]

she probably thinks its real impressive considering she lives in a tent made of scraps of cloth

[stoic jetty]

he's so proud

[buoyant matrix]

hades hypnos and fates

[granite mauve]

zagreus uses the scrying pool to bathe

[verbal rampart]

Legendary

[nocturne zenith]

H1 didn't bother trying to fill out all keepsake rows perfectly i think

[meager garden]

clotho, lachesis, atropos

[orchid acorn]

difference is they didn't make the game with the final keepsake count in mind

[granite mauve]

the third row is only half filled in hades 1

[orchid acorn]

we have ALREADY expanded the keepsake cabinet

[meager garden]

why doesn't mel just make it bigger so she can put more in?

[verbal rampart]

...oh. Oh you're right.

[agile needle]

Do we know when the game drops on Xbox?

[hollow lily]

YAYYYY MORE GRIND!!!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1417942993528291559/mooooooood.png?ex=68cc51d1&is=68cb0051&hm=453e53ed4dfe84196e3e81b174c1b9835d1d2eed02a022a08ebe2a0aa6451021&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[meager garden]

nope, prob mid 2026 or late 2026

[buoyant matrix]

no

[fathom lake]

8 Days 🎸 🗣️

[meager garden]

they already doubled the leveling speed what do you want lol

[orchid acorn]

instant level 3s

[hollow lily]

real

[sour flower]

wait. ive had a slot locked for a while now and i assumed its hades and it was just locked until 1.0. im missing someone?!

[granite mauve]

they saw what the rarest achievement in hades 1 was 😭

[orchid acorn]

yes

[meager garden]

Guys do we think Hades 2 will show up?

[raven perch]

She’s the main character!!!

[orchid acorn]

currently i believe theres 33 slots and we have 30 keepsakes

[sour flower]

so i cant send a screenshot of my game but yall can send meme drawings sh**ting themselves 😭

[granite mauve]

I think we might even say John and Jane Supergiant

[hollow lily]

i dont care who supergiant sends im not grinding the chaos seed keepsake

[sour flower]

can anyone tell me what keepsake goes at the very top right?

[raven perch]

Selene’s

[orchid acorn]

selene yeah i think

[sour flower]

ohhh thank you

[torpid grove]

its a very good starting keepsake imo

[raven perch]

I take it second

[meager garden]

I'd always rather take a god keepsake for first

[hollow lily]

the phial is better

[granite mauve]

imagine hades without god keepsakes

[meager garden]

wut

[hollow lily]

20% health boost from fountains and heroic boon upgrade

[meager garden]

you know, there are people that don't use rerolls, it's crazy out there

[orchid acorn]

god why does this miniboss ahve so much armor 😭

[indigo cypress]

I rarely use god keepsakes on starting

[meager garden]

cause they weren't cool enough to get a full healthbar

[hollow lily]

for a starter keepsake id easily take the phial over most keepsakes. maybe skellys tooth beats it but thats just because its a DD

[polar abyss]

Idk. I feel like they have different use cases for an RNG roll

[orchid acorn]

greg is looking at this like "im about to make a new hades 1 balance patch"

[autumn moon]

IMO the best one to start is Crystal Figurine. If you're lucky you can have all arcanas activated using it

[orchid acorn]

"who let this ship"

[meager garden]

can't wait for the Hades DLC next year

it's gonna be wild

[granite mauve]

the pantheon of greece DLC

[hollow lily]

i will personally email him the worst playthrough of spec-ops the line

[granite mauve]

have they gotten past meg yet

[orchid acorn]

no. they got close

[fathom lake]

Nuh uh

[hollow lily]

tf yall on about?

[fathom lake]

8 Days 🎸 🗣️

[granite mauve]

the livestream

[meager garden]

the stream lol

[frank mulch]

https://www.twitch.tv/supergiantgames
there is a stream here

[polar abyss]

Also it’s being streamed on YouTube

[merry whale]

supergiants r gaming

[orchid acorn]

you thought i was just yapping about a h1 balance patch for fun?

[merry whale]

math is hard (they calculated the duo)

[orchid acorn]

wait hes trying now Pog

[fathom lake]

YEah suuurreeee

[granite mauve]

I didn't get that hammer dialogue until 100 runs in does that say something about me

[hollow lily]

look all im saying is. if we get that major of an update or a dlc.

@sly elk 1v1 me command and conquer red alert 2.

[orchid acorn]

thats certainly a choice

[granite mauve]

try try again

this feels like payback for all my deaths 😆

[hollow lily]

he worked on cac 3, i played cac 2 as a child. this is a fair match

[buoyant matrix]

timeout incoming

[orchid acorn]

shield run

time to beat the entire game

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

[granite mauve]

if they get charge shot its over

LOL

[fathom lake]

THey got charged shot lmfao

[granite mauve]

they picked minotaur rush 😭

[fathom lake]

Its fun just git gud

[granite mauve]

it is fun

but who plays shield to have fun 😂

[acoustic ruin]

i did

[meager garden]

it's very dumb fun, unga bunga

[acoustic ruin]

gauntlets>shield> sword

[oak ivy]

ahem !!! #self-promotion

[granite mauve]

[oak ivy]

posting self-promotion here is against the rules

[frank mulch]

AHEM, #announcements

[meager garden]

smh no shilling allowed

[granite mauve]

[buoyant matrix]

smh my smh 😤

[meager garden]

it's not there

[oak ivy]

shaking my smh ....

[quaint pumice]

devs are not allowed to shill their own game

look at randy pitchford

[fathom lake]

Divine dash

[frank mulch]

i will shill so hard dont even joke. btw hades is on sale. 75% off if you even care. watch out for autumn sale when i shill pyre like its my job

[hollow lily]

oh fr?

bet. i will do my due diligence since i got it... somwehere else the first time i played

[oak ivy]

also ahem this is actually #h1-discussion because it's a hades 1 stream 🤓

[merry whale]

i should buy pyre

[frank mulch]

count your days. 12 days from now and you WILL buy pyre

[merry whale]

i feel suddenly compelled

[granite mauve]

that blasted hydra never takes my feedback

[frank mulch]

i am no longer asking

[meager garden]

this should go into #pyre probably

[merry whale]

i feel like my fated list of minor prophecies just got a new entry

[frank mulch]

maybe hades should go there!!

[indigo cypress]

"AD will remember that next time you talk about Silksong or Deltarune."

[frank mulch]

i never forget

[oak ivy]

mods have such double standards smh

[oak ivy]

😭 💔

[merry whale]

driving in my car

[quaint pumice]

right after a patch

[frank mulch]

you and your drunes and your skongs...

[buoyant matrix]

just pyre? I've all three non hades games on speed dial

[granite mauve]

defeating chronos on radiant difficulty

[hollow lily]

and that boon is shaped like a sphere

[sour flower]

charon fight should be coming in 1.0 right?

[frank mulch]

ok you WILL buy bastion and also transistor. and you will love transistor so much it will change your life like nothing else youve ever played. see what i see

[merry whale]

vow of radiance: getting hit instantly kills your run and your family

[oak ivy]

no hit rivals chronos on a 1 minute timer 🔥

[merry whale]

sgg should do like an all games package so i can buy all the games

[meager garden]

radiance, from that hit game?

[granite mauve]

no cost too great

[buoyant matrix]

there is one

[merry whale]

wait fr

[fathom lake]

i dont rember the poem my bad

[indigo cypress]

I think his immune time lasts more than a min collectively 😭

[merry whale]

o there is

[oak ivy]

no no, every time you lose a run: one random NPC in the crossroads gets infected

[glossy shadow]

Dragonrot 😌

[meager garden]

sgg should do a subscription where you have access to all their games for a month

[oak ivy]

that's what sekiro did!

[oak ivy]

yep !!!

[buoyant matrix]

time rot

[granite mauve]

hmm and the time cubes chronos traps people in are orange colored like the infection...

[indigo cypress]

We all sacrificing Eris first right

[frank mulch]

this happened to my friend pathologic

[indigo cypress]

It's what she would want

[oak ivy]

omg pathologic is so brutal for that yeaaah

[glossy shadow]

Lady discordia mother to us all, my lovely wife no 😭😭😭

[frank mulch]

seriously this channel kinda became general 2 when there was no update of hades 2 but now that there is a (VERY SOON) release date i think it is reasonable to direct people to #silksong-deltarune ah. i mean. #video-games

[quaint pumice]

vow of void: you lose access to a percentage of your grasp up to 100

[granite mauve]

we're finally about to reach asphodel!

[oak ivy]

yeah I can't disagree I suppose... since it is very close to 1.0 !!!!

[granite mauve]

they would never add something like that

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-slap-silksong-slap-silksong-deny-silksong-denied-gif-5905972902135946000

[meager garden]

Vow of Hades 2: You play as Hades 2

[oak ivy]

who's Hades 2??

[indigo cypress]

Technically Hades is playable during flashbacks

[oak ivy]

Hades Jr.?

[frank mulch]

vow of AD: you buy hades 2 for a steam friend who has it on their wishlist (once per night)

[meager garden]

Hades but cooler

[granite mauve]

hades little brother hades 2

[indigo cypress]

Zag could never

[frank mulch]

please call me 2. hades was my father

[oak ivy]

oomg just like Togore??

[sharp nymph]

well this chat just reminded me that pyre exists - so fanx ig

[frank mulch]

yes and you will buy it

[sharp nymph]

i already own it ,

[merry whale]

damn i'm so happy there's no thwomp enemy in h2

[frank mulch]

yes and you will play it

[sharp nymph]

ive got all ssg games sicne bastion

[frank mulch]

[meager garden]

bouldy would never

[fathom lake]

Its like some kind of HAdes 2

[indigo cypress]

Bouldy when you don't gift him

[oak ivy]

1.0 adds a third route: a weird route

[meager garden]

yes please

[oak ivy]

you must take Demeter and snowgrave everyone

[hollow lily]

why tf is bouldy snorting crack

[oak ivy]

Toby Fox and GregK collab please 🙏

[quaint pumice]

thats a knife

[granite mauve]

when I try to enter the house of hades and I use code gaster then the night resets

[quaint pumice]

i guess thats marginally safer

[indigo cypress]

Will this be your strat for post 1.0, talking ab Deltarune and Silksong but somehow connecting it to Hades 2

[oak ivy]

hehe 😈

[raven perch]

15 more runs and I breach 1000

[frank mulch]

god gamer

[oak ivy]

I love Deltarune so much because the weird route reminds me soo much of Hades 2 !!

[orchid acorn]

i just realize they have been talking about every voice actor EXCEPT athenas its so funny

[raven perch]

It’s sad

[oak ivy]

💔

[raven perch]

Im sad

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-chapter-4-ch4-kris-crashout-gif-17163985643103122451

[meager garden]

what did that trashcan do to kris

[granite mauve]

demeter what did you do? its like ... the mortals are in... some kind of snow grave

[oak ivy]

omg 6 skulls, pronto you're doing numbers

[orchid acorn]

"oh hey this god voiced by X, a lovely voie actor"

[indigo cypress]

I wouldn't mention them on stream either, I'm not trying to get sued 😭

[frank mulch]

they dont go by she/her as far as im aware

[fathom lake]

It got possesed by an evil ass soul

[frank mulch]

i think its understandable but im just a streamwatcher here

[orchid acorn]

athena on screen: https://imgur.com/RW4JDZz

[quaint pumice]

remember when toby fox had to remove the wilted rose because deltarune fans were making the worst theories known to mankind

on second thought that might not be appropriate to mention here

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/sentry-thunderbolts-sentry-thunderbolts-eyes-lewis-pullman-gif-15132088263420443497

[meager garden]

yeah that's not Hades II

[frank mulch]

remember how we used to run

[orchid acorn]

yeah it is, its like how in hades 2 technical test we had horrible theories about od betraying us

[meager garden]

lol

[granite mauve]

remember when supergiant invented greece for their hit game

[frank mulch]

hes too busy with his voyage or perhaps a journey

[meager garden]

if it's greece than why does it use roman numerals

[raven perch]

He’s too busy getting faced at the club

[daring sun]

NICE!!! Victory, Titan slayer 😮

[indigo cypress]

Bc Chronos is an opp

[orchid acorn]

different people making different aspects makes so much sense

[raven perch]

The true reason is because they didn’t want to call it Hades Beta

[orchid acorn]

no wonder medea has been left alone for so long

foolish is actually responsible for it

[crude dragon]

A... man, I wish there was a good word to describe a long journey

[granite mauve]

if its greece then why is there an aspect of anubis 🤔

[hollow lily]

where tf is matpat when you need him

[meager garden]

makes you think

[frank mulch]

ahhh a trip!

[fathom lake]

Its like their doin some king of ODYSSEY

[granite mauve]

an adventure!

[indigo cypress]

World's deadliest extended vacation

[crude dragon]

That's the one

[daring sun]

😮

[granite mauve]

10/10 would buy concert tickets in oceanus again

[frank mulch]

what is everyones favorite scylla song

(and the sirens sorry girls)

[daring sun]

it says I gotta wait for release for what happens next 😮

[merry whale]

rock n hard place

[frank mulch]

you wont have to wait long :D

i am soo excited im getting all of my projects out of the way so i can LOCK IN

[granite mauve]

rock and a hard place of course

[orchid acorn]

coral crown is a banger i actually listen to

[granite mauve]

charybdis solo is just so fire 🔥

[orchid acorn]

eyes and drown is mid

rock and a hard place has an actual BANGER of a chorus or w.e its called but the rest is forgetable

[indigo cypress]

Song of Isles > Rock and a Hard Place > Gonna Claw Out Your Eyes > Coral Crown > Song of the Deep > Song of Sirens

[daring sun]

so mote it be

[frank mulch]

because of course i get an intense bout of inspiration right before a very expected game comes out...

[orchid acorn]

oh yeah the humming songs are bangers too but i don't know them by name

Damned if you do or you don't
Now we've got you in our tentacles
Is a brainworm

[frank mulch]

im a big fan of i am going to claw (out your eyes and drown you to death)

it goes hard

[orchid acorn]

sgg abusing shield pls nerf

[frank mulch]

youre so obsessed with meeeee not that i can blame you for it

[granite mauve]

swallowed by a whaaaaalleeeee!

[orchid acorn]

"there are unblockable things" yeah someone should tell a guy in hades 2 about that 🤔

[indigo cypress]

Siren goes w Coral Crown, Deep goes w Gonna Claw Eyes Out, and Isles w Rock and a Hard Place

[granite mauve]

song of the isles is beautiful

[indigo cypress]

They're all supposed to transition into the boss music

[orchid acorn]

ok yeah song of isles is peak

[shadow tulip]

Rock and a Hard Place

[frank mulch]

okay now what is everyones favorite ephyra track specifically because they are all insane bangers

[fathom lake]

All of them

[granite mauve]

sightless shepherd 🗣️

[indigo cypress]

Sightless Shepard > Necropolis > Doomed City (but all S tier)

[fathom lake]

Necropolis solo goes hard

[merry whale]

sightless shepard go brr

[polar abyss]

Sirens matches with Crown
Deep matches with Claw
Isles matches with Rock.

Honestly… I feel like I like both of the Rival songs the best

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-fnaf-fnaf-memes-gif-24043137

[merry whale]

song of the isles is so good btw might actually be my favorite of all the songs

[frank mulch]

honestly i really cannot choose. the music in h2 is much more my vibe than h1 anyway but duuuuude. what tha hell

[granite mauve]

that blasted hydra never takes my feedback

[frank mulch]

maybe next time!

[granite mauve]

I love both soundtracks so much

[merry whale]

i love a good chill variant of my rock music

[hollow lily]

hades 3rd stage rock song is so peak

[granite mauve]

I hope hades 2 gets more lyrical tracks outside of oceanus

[frank mulch]

i like how everything is so distinct...

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-tenna-ant-tenna-deltarune-chapter-3-t-rank-gif-16860907721684413567

[indigo cypress]

I'm prob gonna make my music tier list at 1.0 and lowkey lowest will be C tier

Can't think of a single D tier song

[frank mulch]

pyre music is also incredible but also very much split into themes

transistor........................................

[haughty hill]

what are your S-tiers rn

[orchid acorn]

they are watching this gameplay with shield going 3x as far as their previous runs like "Yeah we were justified making coat as is"

😔

[granite mauve]

☠️

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stare-gif-26332648

[granite mauve]

shield has the hubris of zeus imbued into it

[haughty hill]

coat would be 100% fine if it covers 270 instead of 180

or even like, 240

just so some mobs couldn't hit through it

[fathom lake]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-ryo-yamada-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-gif-smile-gif-17985271714584708631

[orchid acorn]

its not even 180 technically

[indigo cypress]

It's very crowded rn like at least 12 songs 😭

[orchid acorn]

cause its slightly distended from mels hitbox

allowing for some things to spawn behind it

[haughty hill]

yeah that's part of the issue some mobs can keep hurtboxes through it

[indigo cypress]

So I'm prob gonna have to do pluses and minuses

[haughty hill]

damn really? I feel like I gotta give like, olympus aflame and end of time their own tier (maybe a couple of others up there?)

[granite mauve]

D tier is for darren approved
S tier is for scylla would be jealous

[indigo cypress]

Ykw maybe I can do a Spotify playlist sorting them rn rq

[merry whale]

olympus aflame is prob their peak in the soundtrack rn

[haughty hill]

end of time is just so fitting to what it is as a like, theme device that I gotta give it #1

[merry whale]

end of time drums go brrr

[haughty hill]

even if I am more likely to listen to olympus aflame

[merry whale]

i also really love icarus theme

[orchid acorn]

them spamming all of these charged attacks with no magick 😔

[hollow lily]

ok im putting my tinfoil hat on. they removed athenas boons using a dev menue

[granite mauve]

why are they not putting down their cast!!!

[granite mauve]

dont look at what dash they have

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoinbrobear-btcbrobear-brobear-psyop-psyops-gif-6955838784905925146

[merry whale]

5g is what's causing athena op

[fathom lake]

Hades II - Olympus Aflame its Hades II - Olympus Aflame Tier
Theres nothing better Nuh uh

[orchid acorn]

wait athena has a revenge boon

i never realized
someone @ the revenge guy

[merry whale]

ye

every god in h1 had a revenge boon

p sure

[fathom lake]

Hades 2 its the weird kid only

3

Revenge boons

[orchid acorn]

i think this whole stream is reinforcing my thoughts about hades 2, that there are literally almost zero traps in h2

[pseudo wing]

listening to h1's anniversary mix made me miss the voices of characters from the previous game - zag, nyx, than, meg, etc
i hope we will have a lot of interactions and new dialogue from them in v1.0

[granite mauve]

asphodel is basically one giant trap

[merry whale]

i'd rather deal with hippo spam than traps

[polar abyss]

Trying to figure out if there is any skip in the OST, and I can’t find any. The one I maybe like the least is Monstrous Might? But like, it’s still pretty good. And also I prefer Medea’s theme to Circe’s.

I am ignoring the Time Cannot Be Stopped and Scylla remix in consideration, because they aren’t even a minute long.

[orchid acorn]

erebus : 0 traps
Oceanus : steam traps and firing water blasts
mourning fields, smog that can't damage you
tartarus: reused spike traps

Ephyra:Zero, unless you count the barrels some enemies throw
Thessaly, avoidable oil spills unless you are supay hestia lmao
Olympus: None that can hit you, only statues that you can activate for traps for enemies
Summit: One needle

am i missing any

[polar abyss]

You forget about the field trees

[orchid acorn]

those can't hurt you, and those are map props not traps. Otherwise there are tons of environmentla destruction stuff

[merry whale]

the exploding eggs in summit

[polar abyss]

No, they can hurt you

[orchid acorn]

SUMMIT EGGS your right

[dusty tapir]

wait the field trees cant hurt you?

[orchid acorn]

they can? i have never noticed that

[polar abyss]

Yes. The spiky ones

[merry whale]

ephyra also does have exploding barrel environment

[pseudo wing]

hmm does occasional boss interruptions (the rock falling in ephyra, the free bird flying around, the giant tial dropping) counts as a trap?

[merry whale]

sometimes they're right next to the pylons

[orchid acorn]

im not really counting those as like.... traps. Im talking the proximity based stuff like the traps floors, lava in asphodel, balistas etc

h1 has them littered literally everywhere

[polar abyss]

Define a trap

[merry whale]

i see

[pseudo wing]

we didnt have anything like that for sure in h1 right?

[merry whale]

anime trope

[orchid acorn]

see that last run with a map entirely composed of 5 different spear traps

nothing like that in h2

closest thing is like.... thessaly oil boats

[polar abyss]

I mean like… they can harm you

[merry whale]

man i wish there was a barge of death in thessaly

[polar abyss]

But next to no body gets hit by them

[orchid acorn]

fists my beloved

[frank mulch]

BOW UNRIVALED

jk i also love them a lot i used to play nothing but that

[pseudo wing]

i think traps r kinda reimagined in h2. for example, in the underworld's last location there are paralysing circles after u kill the sand things

[orchid acorn]

aspect of artemis Coronacht when

[frank mulch]

they feel way better in h2 its cool

i mean everything does, gameplay wise

[orchid acorn]

i think its a better direction to not have them, but it just reminded me that it felt like it was missing whe ni first played EA

[indigo cypress]

Hmmm quick question yall: for the soundtrack ranking I'm making do you think you judge solely based off the song or how it's implemented in game too?

[orchid acorn]

i judge it based off the feeling i have ingame purely

[polar abyss]

You could do either or.

[indigo cypress]

I'm asking bc of Mountain of the Gods which sounds phenomenal but terrible implementation

[orchid acorn]

then bonus points if its actually worth listening to outside of the game

[polar abyss]

I do feel like there is then some bias towards the Scylla songs though, but like that’s because they are bangers.

As much as Mel hates to admit it

[orchid acorn]

this is also reminding me that keys were kinda a peak resource

aesthetically mostly, seeing them unlock weapons and stuff with the keyhole is great

compared to.... whatever the hell ash does for arcana cards

or green goop making my green goop supply bigger

[polar abyss]

For the moment, what do you have as the highest and lowest?

[indigo cypress]

Song of Isles as highest and Monstrous Might as lowest

[polar abyss]

Yeah, I get it.

[fathom lake]

Hades II - Olympus Aflame wehre?

[rocky shell]

hello, little question, can i start playing Hades 2 now? Like is the early and midgame completely finished? I'm thinking I could dip my toes now while im waiting and by the time im a few hours in the 1.0 patch will drop and. For Hades 1 i didnt start it until 1.0 and i probably benefitted from getting the complete package right outta the gate

[orchid acorn]

if nothing else this stream is vaguely soft confirming no 2nd dash in hades 2 1.0

[frank mulch]

hre

olympus aflamed mentioned

well u can sprint fast as hellll

[orchid acorn]

To make a comparison to hades 1, the game instantly ends as soon as you beat dad. There is no postgame story or unlocks from meeting mom etc.

[merry whale]

the entire gameplay aspect of the game is complete, all that's left for 1.0 is the main plotline

[polar abyss]

You can play Hades 2 whenever you like. Just know that currently there’s quite a bit of story that’s missing in the current patch and will be added in 1.0

[orchid acorn]

All aspects, meta stuff for the most part are all in the game. But the story is like.... debatably between 50-80% complete depending on how far they go

like i said equivalent of forever not meeting mom in h1

[merry whale]

the faq recommends that u should prob just wait until 1.0 releases, only like a week or so away

[orchid acorn]

you just always die after beating hades

[frank mulch]

at this point i would wait, there are less than 10 days - but saves completely carry over

[orchid acorn]

i would also recommend not starting

and waiting

[meager garden]

I recommend Hades

[rocky shell]

Hmm i might wait then so i can get the full story at the correct pace as intended by the devs, its my main reason for playing after all

[merry whale]

ad recommends pyre

[rocky shell]

thank you for the fast answer <3

[frank mulch]

i do

i do recommend pyre it is true

[rocky shell]

yeah ill finish Pyre meanwhile hahahah

[frank mulch]

YAY

i am so happy

[orchid acorn]

np. Better to wait so you don't win like 5 times then get your resources nuked at 1.0(which is a thing)

[dusty tapir]

Yeah, im restarting mostly for the pacing

[meager garden]

I will play more borderlands 4 until 1.0 drops

[merry whale]

what's average playtime of pyre btw i might consider buying it rn cuz i'm getting bored rn

[orchid acorn]

meirl

[dusty tapir]

Ghostunner 2 currently free on Epic if you need action to tide you over

[frank mulch]

pyre is like 13-15 hours estimate, depending on your reading speed

[merry whale]

hmm gotchu

prob will wait until autumn sale then so it lines up after my h2

[orchid acorn]

pyre is like 80% visual novel 20% gameplay

[frank mulch]

and it is in fact a visnov

just so you know before you go in. but fantastic story

[merry whale]

i do like my visual novels

[frank mulch]

YAAAAAA

[granite mauve]

the stream froze

[meager garden]

so it's not a stream anymore

[orchid acorn]

froze?? like tomestop chronos froze??? h2

[frank mulch]

i really do like pyre my shilling is not a joke it genuinelty well and truly changed my life for the better

[polar abyss]

Ok, I don’t know if I’m gonna make a full on ranking, but I think I’ll try a quick rank of my favorite song from each of the 8 regions, and 1 extra songs that aren’t directly related to any 1 region.

[frank mulch]

i mean im here :)

[meager garden]

this is canon

[granite mauve]

CHRONOS is hacking the hades livestream!!!

hes going to imprison them 😭 now we'll never get hades 2 1.0

[fathom lake]

nooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dusty tapir]

Stream?

[raven perch]

Greg and Amir have been streaming for like 2 hours

[orchid acorn]

"A lick of hades" - gregs last words 2025

[merry whale]

no way chat's backseating the tech fixing

[frank mulch]

3 hours...

[sleek oar]

The anniversary made me wanna replay the first game but h2 is so closeeeee aaaa

I cantttt do this to myself

[frank mulch]

if you are really committed you can do it

its fun to start from the beginning

[sleek oar]

Unfortunately i dont have enough time to finish by the 25th

[orchid acorn]

tbf the first like 30 minute of that was just music

[sleek oar]

So ill do it at a later point 🙂‍↕️

[orchid acorn]

i can't go back to h1 after h2 man it feels so bad 😭

[sleek oar]

Im there for the plot

[orchid acorn]

i tried after the technical test and it was bleh even back then

[sleek oar]

And also proving to myself that im a better gamer now. Cause man did that first win take me a while.

[polar abyss]

Erebus: Edge of Erebus? I don’t think there’s a standout winner here
Oceanus: Song of the Isles. But Rock and a Hard Place is a close second.
Fields: Eternal Longing
Tartarus: Titan of Time Phase 2. The end rolls of End of Time make it my overall favorite song though, cause I’m not as much of a fan as Titan of Time P1.

Ephyra: Sightless Shepherd
Thessaly: probably The Risen Fleet. Tough one, because I’m not a huge fan of the selection here, but Risen Fleet’s pretty great.
Mount Olympus: Olympus Aflame. Though Mountain of the Gods P2 is fantastic.
Summit: probably Titan Mix of Father of All Monsters. As much as I like the scale of this region, I prefer the highs of basically every other region save for Thessaly

And then the one Extra Submissions:
Favorite NPC: Fading Fading. Lap of Luxury is a close second,

Chat, go criticize me

[sleek oar]

The only one im passionate enough to disagree with is rock and a hard place

And ig song of the isles

[polar abyss]

No, but, honestly, this OST is great. It’s so hard to pick and choose favorites and least favorites here

[fathom lake]

Hades II - Olympus Aflame

[indigo cypress]

Lmao I'm putting Father Titan Mix like #2 lowest 💀

[sleek oar]

Oceanus clear winner for me is i am gonna claw

[fathom lake]

Its not a great song
But the ticking sound its the jumpscare by itself

[polar abyss]

I feel like I prefer it over the others listed.

[sleek oar]

Whats #1 lowest

[indigo cypress]

Monstrous Might so far, once I'm done I'll just link the playlist

[polar abyss]

I guess I’m in the minority with this one.

[indigo cypress]

Mother of all Storms wardens slaps

[fathom lake]

Hades II - Olympus Aflame its the best song to ever been composed

[fathom lake]

THat war drum solo gets me

Also the overall Lovecaraftian vibe around Typhon its 10/10

[polar abyss]

Hmm.. True.

Maybe I just don’t play Surface enough

[sleek oar]

My all time favorite hades song has to be good riddance

Im basic ig but

That song is like going to therapy for free

[polar abyss]

Ok, yeah. I can see it. This really is a difficult ranking…

[fathom lake]

Hades II - Olympus Aflame

[polar abyss]

But like… second lowest for the Titan mix?

[daring sun]

the flute in the first boss on the surface is intense

[sleek oar]

It is intense in the way that i get ptsd to my 6th grade class where we all had to learn to play the flute

[indigo cypress]

Part of it is prob implementation and it being a downgrade from regular Father of all Monsters

Also competition is very stiff, like at worst I'd say Monstrous Might is C tier

[merry whale]

the aura of zeus suddenly coming in to help vs typhon was prob a peak highlight of the game for me

[sleek oar]

Trueee

[polar abyss]

Where are you going to put the two death “sound effects” I guess you could call it?

As in, will they be included or excluded and where?

[sleek oar]

And the first rivaled typhon, the cutscene comes in and chronos says “expexting someone else?” RAAAHH

Peak

[indigo cypress]

They're not on Spotify so I'm ignoring them but vanilla in B and Sirens in A (if I were to put them)

[merry whale]

can't wait to keep rivals on and not have zeus show up

[fathom lake]

I was so mad i cant put it into words

[sleek oar]

Im excited to have actual hermes dialogue before the fight 😭

At least for like a run surely there will be something?!

[humble urchin]

“Hi M, Bye M!”

[sleek oar]

My mouth literally dropped lol

[polar abyss]

Alright, I tried listening to the two Father songs, and like… I feel like those two are close together, and I still feel like I prefer Titan’s. But to each… my own…

It’s probably the worst of the Rival “exclusive” songs though imo.

[merry whale]

god i wish there wasn't music during babality

i would love if it was just "tick tick tick"

[fathom lake]

This made me wish Feedback was still open

[indigo cypress]

If they don't add back Scylla death fanfare 1.0 I will be so dissapointed

[sleek oar]

Scylla what

[merry whale]

tru

[merry whale]

yeaa so many fun ideas that ofc come right after it's locked down

[indigo cypress]

When you die in the fight it played a cover of the death music, Patch 11 it's now just silence for whatever reason

[granite mauve]

thank you oceanus!

[polar abyss]

In terms of non-gameplay stuff, I still want to have the ability to choose certain boss music parts.

[sleek oar]

Oh i dont remember it playing music

[polar abyss]

I put it in feedback before it closed, and am hopeful it could be added.

[merry whale]

yea there used to be a death jingle exclusive for rivals

[polar abyss]

So there were 3 different death jingles?

[sleek oar]

Ohhh i wasnt playing rivals before then then 😭

Tbh most of the time im still not playing rivals

Skill issue ig but some of the fights frustrate me so bad 🤧

[fathom lake]

Reflection Affection its top 10

[indigo cypress]

Hmm idk how to rank it rn, beautiful track but like does it fit Narcissus

[normal mountain]

Me neither - I got to dad with the adamant rail on my first run with it and beat him. - i wasn't impressed and deleted the game straight away. (I'd already beat the game a few years earlier so I know once you beat him that's it, literally) - But I beat him even faster, the game was ridiculously easy and gave me no challange at all. lol

[fathom lake]

I literally CANNOT with Scylla and Prometheus Rivals

[fathom lake]

It sounds very romantic yes

[indigo cypress]

That man is not romantic he is vain 😭

[sleek oar]

I hate running around trying to find the real hecate, and the poison

Scylla i got used to 😭 the music makes it better pfft

[normal mountain]

I've not bothered with rivals since the 2 times I did try it, it's too unbalanced for me. - hopefully they will fix it come v1

[fathom lake]

He is the walking definition of selfcestfdsovgfjtkghljthsgyy

That man loves himself very romantically

[sleek oar]

Let me drop a very controversial opinion

[granite mauve]

im honestly glad rivals is so crazy in hades 2 but scylla definitely needs a nerf

[sleek oar]

When we see zag, i need tiktok edits to that one sabrina carpenter song 💀

Its been all over my fyp and it would fit him

[dusty tapir]

I can get through rivals reliably enough but they feel more like stat-checks than anything, especially cerberus

[normal mountain]

tiktok, the cancer of the internet

[sleek oar]

Nuh uh

[granite mauve]

reddit gold for you my friend!

[normal mountain]

😂

you know people pay REAL money for those? lol

I do wish sometimes that I could turn back time and it'll be the late 90s again and everything that is wrong with the internet today, wouldnt exist

[boreal maple]

Ok so hades 2 has cross save between switch and pc. But will achievements autopop? Thats the only thing I need to know before buying another copy xD

[indigo cypress]

K this is the preliminary song ranking I have so far:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0vGIvAr7Xr5hPVl901Gh2d?si=tmj5HianSmWYExXkn54lRQ&pi=oZp2N-UqToGck

[merry whale]

yea achievements will retroactively pop once u open ur save

[indigo cypress]

Ignore the random songs to make the tiers

[merry whale]

winged apprentice slander

[indigo cypress]

I always slander Icarus we know this

[normal mountain]

Sorry but I had a look on your profile @fathom lake - Danm, I forgot delta heavy existed and I'm a DnB feind, but I don't rave anymore so that's my excuse. - The drop on "ghost"... I miss raving lol 🙁

[granite mauve]

potential man

[normal mountain]

You should be slandering eris and nem rather then icarus.

[hollow lily]

new song. nice

[indigo cypress]

Nem helps me in high fear so 🤷

[raven perch]

Naw they’re right he’s Potential Man

[fathom lake]

i just like the songs my bad

[indigo cypress]

Also Eris is way easier than the others ik she's taking a dive for Mel

[fathom lake]

My music radar its just
If it sounds good its good

[daring sun]

wow

dionysus just showing off that leopard thong just like that

[normal mountain]

Cheers, I've just gone down a youtube rabbithole. and found propane nightmares by pendulum.

[fathom lake]

Oooooo

[normal mountain]

I feel like crying cause I wanna go to a rave but I can't. 😂

[fathom lake]

OOOOOOO ITS THAT SOING"?!?!?!?'FWGRTYU70UPJKOL

[normal mountain]

eh?

Propane nightmares?

it's an oldie but goldie

[fathom lake]

I recognized the tune from a video i saw once

17 years wow

[normal mountain]

yeh they were massive in the dnb scene

Listen to 'Blood sugar' - absolute banger of a tune, remember when this got dropped for the first time in a rave.... ooooohh.... that was an experience haha

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/P3z0f6w

@oak ivy im sorry

[normal mountain]

lol, icarus has some cool boons, but I guess this is just engagement bait.

[orchid acorn]

nah hes pretty bad currently

hes good for pausing time and even that has drawbacks

seebottom left

[normal mountain]

Really? I think hazard boom is pretty good, or whatever it's been re-named to.

[orchid acorn]

thats probably one of the worst options you can take

cause it has a like 5 second delay AND can hurt you

[indigo cypress]

Lowkey I prefer Ingenious over Explosive Intent but that's only bc I do high fear

Hazard Boom can also be kinda good in like 50s

[inland frigate]

Supergiant Games has still made no statement on why Chronos hissed in the trailer.

[fathom lake]

He is rat
He uses Satyrs that summons rats

Hes pretty much an egyptian mummy
R A T

[normal mountain]

you know you can dodge out the way before the explosion , right????

[indigo cypress]

Prob to set false expectations so players get suprised when they actually meet him

[orchid acorn]

correct, and so can the enemies cause yknow they still move

[indigo cypress]

But what if I have Artic Ring and Heroic Cold Storage

[normal mountain]

not if you use rapture ring?

yeh, or artic ring

[limpid folio]

he will beat you up with hammers (in 3 runs or whatever when he actually shows up)

[indigo cypress]

I'm pretty the cast actually expires before the boom, so rapture will make it more consistent but not foolproof

Also guardians for both rapture and artic

[normal mountain]

I've not timed mels casts.. so i couldnt asnwer that... but doesn't the aspect of charon lengthen mels cast duration or did they nurf it?

[raven perch]

It does

[orchid acorn]

removed in the unseen update

[normal mountain]

SO THEY NURFED IT

[orchid acorn]

buffed

it was usually negative to extend your cast duration

[indigo cypress]

It was a buff for the aspect playstyle

[orchid acorn]

in the two scenarios you used charon

1- you placed your cast correct and blow it up, 0 extra duration so it was useless

2- you placed your cast incorrect and now you have wait an additional 2 seconds for it to despawn or waste magic kto break it earlier

[indigo cypress]

Pronto if you somehow get your WC counterpart boon that increases cast duration will you actually use it 😭

[orchid acorn]

yes?

i used the hera boon that did it

extending cast when you aren't literally charon can be good when built around it

[indigo cypress]

Oh yeah I forgot ab Old Engagement Ring

Idk I always just prefer being able to reposition with how quickly enemies need to die

But ig Super Nova would be funny

[normal mountain]

They did nurf it.. well.. just removed the duration bit

Moonstone Axe (Charon): no longer increases duration of your Casts

[orchid acorn]

again. thats not a nerf

it was a buff because it was bad to have your casts last longer

its only a nerf if you look at it from a "it lost a feature, so it must be a nerf!" pov

it was likely originally supposed to be a beneficial feature, but it was usually negative

or rather usually did nothing, and sometimes negative

[indigo cypress]

Pretty sure when the devs began development they did not expect omega use to be as all-in or nothing as it is rn, they thought it would naturally be periodic

[orchid acorn]

would make hexes even mroe baffling if so, cause they had 2-3x higher costs lmao

[indigo cypress]

Hence why they made a bunch of aspects which encouraged periodic omegas

[indigo cypress]

They were prob relying on the rushes which consumed magic (Zeus, Poseidon and Heph) plus magic consuming hammers

[normal mountain]

Well I've just had a go on charon aspect... and the cast doesn't last long even for mel to hit it with the special so it activates it.

[indigo cypress]

Obv that didn't work out

[orchid acorn]

.... what?

[indigo cypress]

Do you have Sorceress

[orchid acorn]

it lasts 3 seconds homie. if you can't ospec before 3 seconds, even without sorc, thats an issue with you

[normal mountain]

I've just loaded up my save, chose the charon aspect, and put down a cast, and the cast expires before mel can slam her special down to activate the cast

[buoyant matrix]

https://youtu.be/aZO4RZMxUqo

[indigo cypress]

Do you have like . . . a permanent Winner's Circle mod or something