#👶beginner-help
1 messages · Page 229 of 1
that's higher value
the only dkeys i suggest getting from other ways are judah thats in exchange shop and pledge of sakura that's in the foundry
Thanks
Ohh does Senti gud or herrscher of flameschion?
no, and both are in war treasury
Dangg.. what gamemode do they perform?
gamemodes that still uses them are niche MA set ups
but you would want them for elysian realm shallow sequence and stress test
but as mentioned they're in war treasury so you don't have to get them from the box
Helooo is there any good valkyrie to take inside ?
well that gives you stamps but you can only unlock that if you have the character herself
check pins
tldr: keep for now
I see.. how can we get the white ORB for S rank i forget the name
can you show a picture of the valk and the orb?
these are permanent so you don't have to worry about spending them asap
best recommendation is getting divine keys you don't own
Er how do i get that quickly
there's like 2 from the shop
and three from bp level up (for f2p)
if you pay for bp you get more from level up
I sss
no
old gear that she doesn't use anymore
as i have told you divine keys are the best picks from that shop
What divine key that good there
Oh
Wait how?
unlock the divine key (from reserve) and for sakura and judah you can get from other stuff
go to the unlocked divine key and press tune
go to the divine key page (next to dorm) and sync
How unlock divine key?
U buy it from reserve
is there a tutorial of like astral op, divine key and the new part 2 stuff? im still confused and overwhelmed over it
!faq dkeys
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Divine Key explanation pin!
Divine keys are special weapons that can give permanent bonuses to your account!
!faq astralring
Allow me to explain, Captain! 
Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!
Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:
- the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
- the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
- the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).
For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:
- World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
- Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
- Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
- Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
- Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!
Is there anyone worth getting in this patch?
Not at all
😭😭😭
Lunar Vow's new gear set if you have LV herself (though there's not much time left on the banner) and Xentinel + her weapon
Is saving for next patch a better idea then?
On Carnival there are some options, depends on what you alr have
Xentinel's banner still has a lot of time left
Depends on how new you are and how many crystals you have rn
if u have xtal its more efficient to spend them while there is a spending event
Well the thing is, I kinda don’t have anything since I just started…
Okay, Ty!
On Carnival I'd try getting Badum with the free pulls
so badum is still worth going for?
Only with free pulls
isee
if spent enough u can get a free valk from spending btw
huhhh
It's not worth to go out of your way for that though
Is there any way to get elysia rn?
Which one, there's 3
Tbh any…
oh u mean the jovial smth
Elysia elf is in spending shop
Both are in War Treasury
Ye
hle banner is indeed coming
Are any of them still meta?
HoHE is very niche and needs her new weapon (gacha-only), HLE is conventionally good
oh i thought u bought her
i got her from elsewhere
yeah mb
yeah if i bought her it would be 1/1 but this is irrelevant
Like next patch or in a few patches?
27 march
should i get a copy of demon colie bc yesterday i got told going for dabum isnt worth it anymore and im 21 pity in the starter banner
and it kinda pains me😭😭😭
Thank you, so is she a priority or xentinel?
who should i pick? im pretty new to this game and i barely have any characters
xdc is better but since u asked for elysia
Is it possible to get both as an f2p player…
box guide in pins
With crazy grind should be doable
I wouldn't burn myself out like that though 
Don't forget you need weaps for both
But is the difference between the two that great tho…
If you really want HLE and you're a more casual player you can go for her instead of XDC
(do the discounted 10x on XDC regardless, you save 5 pulls that way cuz the banners share pity)
different usage so xdc usually wont be used in hle content and vice versa
unless no oher choice, ofc
Do I need more than 1 team or is it alright o just brute force with one?
You wanna have multiple
Competitive players want a lot of teams
oh…
its doable as f2p most of the time
Yeah
It’s not that much investment it’s just the way Hi3 is rewards horizontal investment over vertical
Does anyone have a tierlist or a list of the top battle suits?
Doesn't work like that
newest is usually highest priority to pull
There are a lot of niches to cover, and a valk's performance between niches varies extremely
Can be BiS in one and literally useless in another
well this just made things a lot more complicated…
tier lists dont work becuase every valk is good at something and bad at another
Are there top teams then?
For what niche? 
Most supports are fairly close in performance at least when they match the tags but almost every weather has exactly one viable dps. If you’re lucky it’ll have as many as 3
Uhm, maybe for hle elysia?
Just refer to this
HLE is relatively new, she's fine to get
So you’re usually locked into the same dps if you want to score okay (hence horizontal) but missing the best supports is usually fine
sure, theres that one or two valks that are used quite a lot of the time, but different bosses want different teams, even if both bosses are ice weather
HLE will usually want Badum and FDD on generic abyss, but sometimes wants Paws or Luna (Symphony) or HoHE (ice).
XDC also usually quite close to Badum though
So outside of needing them to trigger a specific weather effect
and then the topic on ranks come into play too
Which supports you bring is much less important than what dps you bring
different ranks may want different teams
But getting ranks is for whales only
take this abyss for example, vita dps is the best here, but the supports she uses are different with different ranks
Wait, is hle elysia a dps or a support?
Both
depending on ur damage, double cora may be better or fdd hfi may be better. even for my sss vita run i found more success running hfi even tho the general standard this cycle is higher rank = run double cora
All Part 2 S-ranks are both supports and DPSes
every pt2 valk is both a dps and supp
Are weapons necessary or can I just get the battle suits first, then get them when they rerun?
It can take a bit of a while for the weapon to rerun, it's best to get it immediately
There are no good craftable alternatives
weaps are a must
Weapons are completely neccesary for DPS
For support they’re a little more optional
Though you still hate to miss out
It’s just not bricked like dps
Does it take a lot of pulls to get both weapon and battle suit?
Worst case scenario it’s 150 pulls but usually it’s significantly less than that
Wait that isn’t even that bad
Wait that’s really not that bad
Yeah a free to play player can usually get a good 80% of new releases and their weapons
More if they’re lucky
Do they give a good amount of pulls per patch?
Yeah. If you’re in Redlotus (second highest competitive tier) it’s usually a little less than the average case for valk + wep every patch
In the endgame you get like 25k crystals per patch which translates to ~90 pulls
Depends on the length of the patch tbf
Are there events or is it solely just endgame?
Some patches are 8 weeks, some are 9 and some are 10
This includes events in the income, though they don't give much
Outside of anniversary/CNY ones
You get pulls from endgame (abyss) which is usually about 35-40% of your pulls, and then another 50-55% from dailies and Elysian realm, and then events are usually a smaller portion
Exact details depend on the patch and what your endgame scores are
Thank you, also how should I go about doing the story? I heard that it’s a little complicated.
Very early Part 1 story could be confusing without reading the mangas (refer to #📚honkai-lore pins for the reading order), but other than that it's mostly fine
A competitive F2P player can usually get Redlotus if they focus on meta and agony 3 fairly easily if they don’t but know how to play; agony 3 is about 80% as much crystals as Redlotus
Early Part 2 story can be done without Part 1 knowledge (up to Chapter 3 inclusive (not including 3-EX), after that they connect)
Once they get past their first few patches. For the first few patches you get less from endgame but you have lots of one time sources like story
That you can do and get lots of crystals from to make up for smaller income
!faq crystals
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!
Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!
Reading the mangas is not mandatory if you don't wanna be super invested into it
Is that everything I need to know for now, or am I missing something?
Make sure to grab an invite code if you're below lvl 26 and get a Sensei
#invite-links-here and #na-cadet-recruit respectively
Yeah free crystals from both
That should be it for now
The pins here have a lot of useful info, this is a good starting point once you level up enough:
!faq lost
I got this, Captain! 
The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!
See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:
- Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
- What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
- Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
- Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
Thank you everyone for helping!
Uhm I think I just got the new raiden Mei from the discount pull
Is that possible?
Congrats!
Yes
It’s a little rare but entirely possible
Do I focus on getting her weapon then?
I would advise it for meta but if you want Elysia that’s still justifiable to focus on HlE instead
Mei can still support HLE with no weapon
Should be able to get both ngl
Yeah probably if they lock in
Is it possible now that I have 1/4 of what I need?
Yeah. There’s a ton of crystals from sensei and starter manual and part 1 story and Elysian realm
So if you actively play you can get a lot
This might sound kinda stupid, but is her weapon supposed to be a four star?
yeah once you upgrade it the stars go up
ending at 6*
ohhh ty
||NEW RITAS RERUNING?||
among the unowned stigmatas , which stigmata should i get first ?
i have like 5.6k red stigmata thingy so i will be able to get one of them in two weeks
||not exactly new in hi3 terms, but yeah. If you want her, then better start saving rn like me||
she will be in the banner that mei is rn
bc im missing few spent crystals to get colie skin
cezanne is craftable in foundry
so basically the real choice from exchange shop is meiM
"25 minutes too late" - MLTR
I rlly wouldn't suggest u to get any skin as ive suffered a great loss by getting mine
ouch wdym
9.6k crystals down the drain dude
coralie spending skin. "free" btw
it's DXY Type counter next anyways
hle coming 27 march
Yea, i have the skin but not hle
DARKSOULS prepare to die swipe
Cant pull, my priority is miss espionage
And im a beginner
Js started like 13 days ago
Yes, I suggest u to carefully plan what u wanna spend ur crystals on
but i pulled for mei, sig and fdd
Wow
Ur in a lot better position than m
I pulled mei and her sign too, but nothing else
Should've went for FDD instead of getting the HLE skin
well i lowk wasted 15 pulls for dabum
bc i didnt know its not worth to go for her anymore
Badum, not dabum 🥀
Shes one of the best ones
Shes worth it, but Id really like her
well everybody kinda said smth else…
Huh?
to do not go for her
They said badum kiana is not good?
people said that her time to shine is about to die
Damn 🥀
Not sure abt that tbh
But could be true
well im new dont ask me
I wasted a shi ton of pulls to the point that I might have to create a new acc
the real reason is that your investment of crystals is not worth backpulling
how did u go btw
i think elysias skin is so gorg
It is
i wanted to go for it too
But waht is a skin if I cant use the char
its a great asset
well u have time still
Thing is, my main prio is miss espionage
and u are new
If I get HLE, then i cant gurantee her
rita right?
I already dried all my sources
Yep
whats mh…
Typo
Praying that hle wont rerun with someone super game breaking to the point that shes a must pull
oh i think i cant do that but someone yesterday told me to check that out
type it into chat
!faq crystals
not here
Only abiut to try it later
Got busy with stuff
Oh, you meant to do that for me
Nah, its alr
I already talked w ppl abt it
Skipping hle is the only option for me
are the crystals economy in this game that bad😭😭
i wouldn't say it's bad, you just can't pull everything you see
you have to be picky and choosy here
well recently hsr was really underwhelming for me but bc i lost everything i could
Mybad dude, but i came from hsr that spoils us with 100+ pulls per patch
😔😔😔
Yes, but y'all have 50/50s
Won all my 50/50s here 💔
Js be lucky
yeah good point
The dam 10 pulls cost 2.8k here tho 💔
another good point
you can't really compare between games tho
especially since they expect you to lose the 50/50
alg
the main thing here is that tf is op so make use of your evades basically.
for this run its pretty scuffed, theres quite a few areas i kind of messed up. like using her combo even tho my buffs were gonna expire lol
didnt get the evade off and so lost some time.
was also slow for some of the inputs, so not end up eating the full buff. also doing extra mixed when i should just do 3 black and swap out
ideally if you are trying it this, turn off the qte on vke and ae. a lot of times u see my run i stay longer than i need to because, the qte is on, so i had to wait it out.
and then vke can have jst tm and newt b which is much better. but u do need to change rot slightly cuz jst will expire faster. im just using trial here. and yea give your da gears
the run is gearless on dea
although she is ss something, you should probably easy out damage me
the main thing u can draw upon ig is the starting 50 seconds? then the rest is pretty sad.
its been a long day for me so it is wat it s
this run just means that, you can at least do better than this
getting sp on vke takes forever so thats why i dont end up doing it here, i cant fit it nicely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuI1POfozCs
as u can see even tho timre is 2min 30, i actually foguht this for almost 5 min straight
Nobody rlly expects u to lose, its all js luck
cuteeee
I have a frnd who lost 9 50/50s in a row
And i won 5 in a row
Its all luck
Besides, theres no soft pity in hi3
wait wait wait, idk that tf can extend buffs?
well like someone said theres no point in compering game
those two are different and one is much older
idk its weirdge, tf shouldnt extend buff, but tf lets u delay the triggering of the buffs, so
but im not doing it either here, but like jst is lasting 10s instead of 9
idk if its me but in h3d i also feel like u wouldnt like to pull everybody too
so i think thats okay
I dont either
you can still get lucky and pull early
Its js that all my favs decided to rerun at once
yeah i got mei on 9 pity and FDD on 18
🥰🥰🥰
Dude found his lucky hoyo game
yeah thats why im bias no game treated me so good
Hsr treated me the best
cant say the same
The first ever game to give me a double
what is the most optimal rotation for this team in stellar outburst
wait oops
with luna as the leader not mei i mean
lv ult -> spam wa -> fdd qte -> wa ( you can cut this if you dont need the dmg from 3/3 FoI or the SP after SO from it) ult -> mei qte -> wa -> lv qte -> ult -> wa spam -> ult
FoI is the purple buff with number 1-2-3. Infinitude dps can get them while in SO by spending SP (a lot of SP)
skip this?
yeah, no need to since they'd already be doing fdd WA, no idea which is actually faster but yeah either fdd wa/ xdc CA
how many frags does this give
the usual number is 5 stamps
does the Dragon meis event has some important spoilers
bc im on chapter 1 still😭😭
cant let those yummy crystals go to waste tho
is songque the best pick here? JD and lantern are both s0
yes it is 
it does yeah. but you can always click skip and watch it later on youtube if you want :3
or at least it spoils the end of the part 1 story (the one you're in right now)
i’m on this one
i thought it doesn't have any major spoilers xd well idk what counts as like important spoilers actually
like i said it does spoil the end, so if you want to go in as blindly as possible but need the crystals then skip all the conversations and watch it later on youtube or something 
because at this point alot of like the important stuff i assume are just common knowledge
the game itself doesnt care about spoiler anyway. if u played APHO it already spoiled a lot
gotcha will do that
i mean, i guess that is subjective, but if someone is going in blind then spoiling the ending of part 1 is pretty important imo xD
But as story discussions are not allowed in here lets not actually say anything specific to the story in here 
kinda
why did i click it😭😭😭
that's on u friend
among a lot of other things with the state of the world at that time, but again. story discussions are not allowed in this channel so if you want to discuss any specifics, go to #📚honkai-lore
no im just saying also for the card game does anyone know what's a good deck
ill just skip like luna said
is there anything as like meta deck (?) and if yes how to counter it
do i miss smth not doing it rn, should i just wait when i finish the 1st part
Deleted all the messages that contain story spoilers as they are prohibited, lets not discuss anything specific from now on.
I know there is one, but i couldnt figure it out so i just mastered the bleed deck tbh and won most of my games xD
tbh i dont actually know what the meta deck is exactly, i just know there is one 
figures
i think i just need to familiarize myself with the decks first but the training place thing isnt very effective 😥
so im just rawdogging ranked to learn LOL
only you can decide how much you care about spoilers, but this sounds to me like you prefer no spoilers, so maybe you should avoid events.
this is very much a personal taste thing tho!
i mean what matters to
me if in there are some time gated rewards
bc i dont mind doing it later
but the fomo gets to me sometimes
i mean u can skip dialogues if u really want to money
there are time gated rewards, but if you have strong story preferences you should respect that. me? i’m very much a chaos gremlin when it comes to story, always have been. i don’t do events early due to fomo, its often because i want those tasty story chunks
AoE deck is actually OP. u need 3 eva cards to evade 1 AoE, and Hofi ult is unevadable. and it is countered by Hyperion deck bcs u cant call it AoE when its only 1 target
problem is 3 valk upgrade cards which is also require a hefty chunk of SP
bleed deck on the other hand doesnt require SP nor upgrade card but the dmg is low and need stacks from susannah basic atk so unless u get VE early, evading sus ba will disrupt ur deck
oh yeah i do know the finality trio is strong but the times ive used it ive always been pretty unlucky with the card rng 
and got cooked by early game mid game agressors
im thinking i wanna try a deck that's like strong in general even if its not op but atleast like sustainable ig
qte seele deck is quite balance
who is the best option from here? is it bronya?
let me introduce you to infinite QTE deck
check 2026 box guide in pins
okay!
right ive heard some words about it 
is it the seele deck one i kinda forgot if there's two qte deck or no
no
it's CH and HoR
who's dps
CH/HoR
and 3rd one is?
whats a good item to use or is the default one good enough
ok i may try this custom deck rn
weapons you can use are cleaver, red hammer, prophetic dreams, DA weapon (forgot name)

lmk if it cooks
kinda weak until u get CH card tbh
though i havent try it yet heh
we can use DA to fish out CH though
custom deck u can pick anyone
what sample
i meant replace mei with vg
i actually saw the no1 guy in my server use this
DA CH Yamabuki
this the t1?
btw the guy u show actually played Seele qte deck, a lot
i know
HoR QTE and CH QTE loop.
with HoR's attack rising every time
or
CH deals 4 damage per QTE when equipped with shamash / homu snax
the s in SEA server stands for sweats
how will u qte HoR if they evade CH qte though?
just do a normal attack then
no HorB tho
too slow with only CH qte deal dmg tbh
HoR can attack you know
and it's not like it's too slow
since you dont run out of SP
Should I pull for carnival supply A or B
Badum is the best pick out of all 4 options there for very new players imo
idr whether she's A or B rn
I have no idea who that is

The red one
Only free pulls though
Yupyup
Who should I invest in from my account?
All of your Part 2 S-ranks + LV if she has her new weap
I lowkey forgot who they were but bet
Everyone who has an Astral Ring icon (blue square)
In-game
Prioritize HLE if you're low on mats
I'm assuming that everyone has weaps btw
Their sig ? No just some randoms

Weaps are mandatory here, can't be skipping those in the future
If you get the valk you get the weap
Otherwise you don't get the valk

||If you have enough balls you could get Sena's weap from Reserve next patch at least||
is anything actually worth picking from spending shop? i have 4* KiaElf S Teri and SS Chenxue already, everything looks so useless to the point im considering just let the currency expire
maybe u may have a niche use for sq even if u have these elfs/aops
but how about sq and lamp?
even if theyre not a popular pick but atp ppl have them ranked so getting ranks on them is better than nothing
would this be best team i can do for last stage off the current abyss
no fdd or hofi dk? do u have luna old gear?
nope
ehh luna new dk isnt designed for this, but u can try
the next best alr at the time of vita release was luna old gear or vbs lol
i keep getting 3600 i want to get out of agony 1 aughhhh
do u have other p2 valks?
nope these are all i have
I dont see it from the pings but which s rank is recommend from the login thingy u get today?
@half dust
rough, 2/3 vita it is
mei gets weather disadvantage so
but this is eggony itll fine
unless low eggony dont have that weather disadvantage

sorry for the ping gng forgot to disable it
no lamp and jds ranks won't do any good to my acc
better than nothing
might as well pick nothing
afaik lamp ranks are decent, also jds s2 or ss are smth
ofc it feels shitty rn but u gotta understand that these valks have the norm to be ranked now
can u like not overreact
||so i should pick silverwing||
would be a good pick but u dont need to pick rn so wait first
the box will stay
i see i’ll wait then, my impatience is getting in a way tho😭😭
Oh i alr have her so i can pick hotr perchance??
Oh
What if i already picked hotr because i assumed she was gonna get a divine key later..
you know the box doesn't expire right
heya guys what should i choose from the valk box? i already have quite a few from there and i have enough purple stuff to buy some valks from war treasury too just thought id include that
||sw and the affix reroll is the only real value there
affix reroll bc its rare and good for very competitive players (but u only use when necessary
as for sw (silverwing) shell get a divine key that makes her relevent so she would be a better pick but u can keep the box rn as u work on getting sw from war treasury for now|| <- 8.8 info
anything else isnt relevant enough to get rn and theyre all in war treasury minus hotr who will probably be in wt soon
is it still worth it to get her if i dont plan to pull for || her dk? || its just not on my priority list rn i want to save for a while (not to mention i am horribly broke from my mei/lunar vow dlc pulls)
the box is permanent so u can always just keep it
also for xdc and lv pulls, did u finish or not yet?
bc u would want s rank anyways for elysian realm xtals
also helps with dorm level
oh yeah about that...i have something else i wanted to ask. i finished my pulls, got mei + wep and stig and lv gear however i am missing only 10 currency for the umm spending event? for songque astral op. so what do i do in this case 🤔 i saw you get 10 if you spend dorm pulls but i dont have any
finished carnival yes?
yep yep
best way to get dorm tickets for lv 80+ players is shop (monthly and patchly) and with rng is the weekly lto box and armada contribution if ure in an active armada
o yea but i already got those ;-;
how many tokens away are u from sq aop or whats ur current spend rn?
should i just spend a few crystals on dorm just for the event
no do not use xtals on dorm ever
im 10 tokens away and the dorm thing is far more reachable than the next um limited spending
one sec
im at 22k something something i dont remmeber exactly
i can get on the game rn and tell u the right amount if that helps
yes pls
alright one sec!
show me from the spending event tab
ok so i could go for the limited one actually
i didnt know im so close
i would hold off for now, theres no rush as long as u dont forget to spend them in the end, but if u have to dump few pulls somewhere then u dump exact amount no more on the dk supply
but wait incase u get more dorm pulls
just dont use xtals in there
and this was insanely wrong XD
lmao
alrighty thanks alot!! <3
guys for this should i get character songque or get AR songque? im still using dreamseeker
guys, question, who's coming after the current banner? and which valk would be better from the free box? or it just doesnt matter
Whenever hoyo decides to
There's no pattern on when they do
HoFi's dkey ran in 7.8, 8.1, 8.4 and 8.5
HoHE's ran in 8.1, 8.2 and 8.5
can i talk about upcoming valks for the gacha here?
Yes as long as you spoiler tag info from CN
HoRb's came out in 8.5 and didn't have a rerun yet
well from what ive seen. the upcoming rerun valks i kinda already own, and well i wanan get the available Songque Astral operator, so idk if i should risk it on carnival banner without been able to guarantee anything, or pull for the current Dkey
Do you have LV herself?
Lv is the Valkyrie for the current Dkey no? if so yes. i got her on the event not so long ago that she was given away for
I assume you alr got XDC + weap
In that case getting LV's dkey is worth
It's worth getting regardless of the spending event
XDC is Mei new suit am i right? if so i do have her with weapon and stigmas maxed up to level 50
Ye
so is LV's good support for her? if so what the ideal team?
XDC generally doesn't use LV
It's the opposite
LV is more niche, but she is cheaper than a full-blown valk
- you get the passive acc-wide +10 ATK
so the dkeys buff are account wide?
The ATK is, yes
in that case, i think the dkey is good investment, would past dkeys also be worth? i do have HoFi, and i could redeem Elysia hercher form from the free box or store. so would you also advise me to obtain them?
Hello, I'm downloading the game right now and is wondering if there are any helpful guides to watch/great tips from anyone to get started. Anything is appreciated!
Passive ATK is not the only reason to get dkeys, and HoFi's and HoHE's are quite old now
HoRb's could be arguable, but looks like you don't have her
- HoFi's probs won't rerun atp
Check the pins here as you play, this is a good starting point:
!faq lost
I got this, Captain! 
The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!
See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:
- Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
- What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
- Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
- Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
Don't forget to grab an invite code before reaching lvl 26 and to get a Sensei (#invite-links-here and #na-cadet-recruit respectively)
okay thank you, what does a sensei do?
There's not much else to say for now really
It's intended to be a kind of mentor, but in practice it's just extra rewards for doing some missions
Most of these missions will be done naturally
ohhh okok
if you need a sensei im available! i may not be the most knowledgeable, but i can help!
so, not wotth getting to old dkeys, got it
Weapless JDS won't do much for you
She's not a consideration unless you can grab her weap from BP
thank you
Songque AO can be nice for ele teams for which you're missing a proper AO
i am. i only have dreamseeker
so i kinda started the game but quit, and i didn't finish the entirety of the new player event stuff
do i just make another accont
Probably, unless you did some rerolling or such on the old account and have a fully geared P2 character
Then you could consider it depending on details
Or are otherwise sentimentally attached to it
yea
If you wanna specifically reroll you can do it for Badum
You get 20 free pulls for that
For regular restarting you just pull Xentinel Mei + her weap
from the uh banner where 20 pulls=an Srank?
Nah, the Carnival one
huh
i used to play the game long ago. came but, ended up making a new acc and enjoyed it more than trying to save my older one.
@ancient needle im lacking fate defying dragon, is it still goot if i get her dkey?
also from the carniavl supply id get BD weapon as i dont have them , but cant be sure to guarantee them
Yes
I don't think that's worth atp
Badum is pretty old
Especially considering that you can't guarantee
i see, btw, im so curious. what BD buffs? and how they Activate? because i do the jump combo, but i could be doing it wrong all this time
They changed the synergy for her? 
changed? was it ever different?
QTE or CA for buffs, CA for Stellar Drain
Was different in beta I assume
charged attack right? yhe jump and she hit with the staff
Ye
oh ok!
That's in Abyss, in MA it's better to do her enhanced WA
Would guess it was CE and possibly HoTr or someone else back then
Because it significantly slows down the timer and ends up being faster
what is the weapon extra buffs? in the description it syas it provides tram eide buffs?
Ah, you meant that
Yeah
It was HoTr GD then
Nothing notable enough to warrant pulling atp
curiosity killed the cat, info dumb me!
I mean, you can just read the weap description if you wanna xdd
where? i domt have it ;-; oh wait it on banner Lmao 😂😂
There's the official wiki too
it over all some elemental damage it seems, neat, but as i said maybe not worth getting as i cant guarantee 😭😔
who would be the best character to pcik from the free s rank selector if i wanted to make a team for HoHE?
how do i reroll?
do i just do the free 20 pulls, if i don't get the S rank i restart?
that would be the quickest way ngl
free tickets require lvl15 though
it would be best if u can farm a 10 pull to use on mei while reaching lvl15
im pretty sure you get to lvl 15 just by finishign all the tutorial stuff
Helloes!
Just a question, i got p xtals now, is it possible to get HLE skin with P2 story chapters and content + events rn which I have done none of
If you're dead broke no
You need smth else
Well, does your HoHE have her new weap?
Without dkey? JK, most likely; her part 1 team is HoHE JK Kira, but it’s old and heavily recommended against investing in
To have any usage she needs her dkey (not really worth pulling either afaik), and with it she becomes a part 2 valk who heavily prefers part 2 supports, though JK Kira is still workable
The advice if you care about meta is to save the box for next patch at least, but if you know you don’t (and won’t in the future) care about any of that knowing it impacts your crystal income, JK has the most synergy with her 
Flawless Benediction
^ this is the dkey i mentioned
JK Kira is still a relatively solid comp for P2 HoHE
But overall ye, you really want P2 supps for her
oh fr? i haven’t seen anyone use that, ill edit it rq
how do i get higher rank? can i rank up just myself? or does my whole faction have to do it because i never rank up
Well, it's not even close to good enough for Nirv purposes, it's just smth that was sometimes good enough for RL
I remember that being a solid option on Kasumi in 8.1
You get a higher rank by getting trophies
how do i get trophies tho?
You get trophies by keeping the required place in the bracket at the end of the Abyss cycle
if you rank at or above a certain place, you get trophies
So if you stay T1 when Abyss finishes you'll get 100 trophies in this case
you’re competing against the scores of your groupmates
so if i stay at n1 before the time ends, i get said trophies?
Yes
and at certain trophy thresholds you rank up to higher brackets (changes the pool of ppl that can be in your group)
Okk Thank you!
hi im kinda confused with the banners can someone explain to me? wich banner should i pull?
Right now you should:
- Pull Xentinel (and her weapon after you get herself)
- Use 20 free pulls on Carnival, I recommend Badum
If you want general info about banners you can refer to this:
!faq supply
Hi, Captain! 
Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!
thank u
is she good she keep coming 😭
nah, you can ignore all the a ranks you get from pulling
i was kinda happy for a sec thanks tho 😔
actually, except coralie; valkyrie blastmetal is a support option for part 2 teams
It's nice indirectly for Dorm EXP, but that's it really
but the vast majority of these A ranks are extremely old and have no use
Awe... Sad
Tysm eitherway
So
I uh, unlocked the war treasury apparently
Wow it seems kinda expensive
But yeah, all the S ranks ill ever want if i can even clear the content
Heck yeah
best dopamine hit
i got the means to buy bp...
Okay, what valks do you have currently
Yeah, it'll take a long while to buy out the shop
Especially the AL valks
Almost tempted to use my aniversary box so i have a better dps for this stuff
I kinda squeaked past the first 5 levels when i tried it
Getting a valk from that box won't improve your situation much
||SW is worth getting because of her getting a new gear set next patch, but that's it||
I see...
That sucks
Man, what universe do we live in where s ranks dont outpower earlygame a and b ranks
Maybe one day ill find the natural blastmetal and her dps will triple
Who knows
should i pull 3 times?
no
never use cristals in dorm supply
only tickets
and it says "pull 3 more s ranks" not pull 3 more times to guarantee a new
oh i see thanks 😭
is bolt storm weapon not free likeblast metal?
Nope
It's not obtainable at all rn
It was given away for free in 7.8 iirc, but that's it
how do i decide who to pick from the box
good pick?
or should i get another copy of HoTr/HoHE
best pick rn would be sw or if you absolutelly dont want her, any other valk that is in er
how do i get keys on apho? just od ruins?
yeah
ruins and leveling up the intel level
you dont really have to worry about it
you will end up with more keys than you can spend
same with upgrade materials in both aphos
is this a bad matchup for xentinel
its not really great yeah...
sd enemies really want a sd valk in the team to procc the shards
in this exact ma not really, you can use her, yeah , better than nothing
but id sugest you try to use a sd valk
i have none sadly
then you gotta do with what you have sadly
You can also use buffed mode
wont get you maxed bonuses but if u only need crystals
can help
no
first try to complete it without
0s with buff is 5min clear score without buff
like, if he can kill in the 5min mark he would get more score than not using buffed mode
Yeah fair Mei FDD VBM should manage without
if he cant clear, then yeah obviusly go with buffed mode
but i would detter from sugesting it as a first option
Where do i complete expeditions?
When i press go, it does not navigate me
If I get this card, how many fragments is that?
@spiral badge I looked through the dkey guide, but it doesn't really tell me priority pick order for realm of battle
!faq what dkey
Hello, Captain! 
Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.
In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).
the order doesn't truly matter because you'll get them all before they really do
I choose the sword it has physical, my only dps is physical me thinks
all other weaps give a gene, so if u want gene benefit for the relevant char u using then pick that one first
but cannon gives nothing
the ones in dorm
you'll see a bunch of autocomplete missions for fragments and materials, you do five of them
I tried but nothing changed

I might js be cooked because in the worst case scenario, im only getting 13200 crystals for ME Rita
rita will prob rerun again in the future if you miss this one.
Keep in mind you can always play her trial in her tutorial
But thats not as fun🥀
Btw, got the skin
and i hate to be a broken record, but keep in mind rita isn't meta recommended
yeah i saw. i didn't have much to say.
Not really caring much abt meta when it comes to rita
Id pull for her even if she heals my enemies
Id prob go full meta player once I get her
anyway keep your budget in mind and the expectations from it reasonable. Getting stuff in this game is more long term
that's fine as long as you understand. Nothing wrong with meta inefficient decisions as long as you're well aware
anyway i can't stay to talk for long. Sorry. If you still have more questions feel free to leave them for others to answer or for me to come back to tomorrow
review the crystal pin. rush story too if you can/willing but if you care about story then maybe don't.
took me 13 hours and 10 minutes
BUT I FINALLY DID IT
hello friends im about to download the game is there anything i should know going in or something i should read?
who should i pick, there are so many options here
:o the pink one is pretty
gratz
It's been a quite a long time I haven't played, what's the best to pull first, Mei or Luna's new Weapon
do you have luna? How many crystals do you have? What other part 2 valkyries do you have?
answer changes depending on account details
I have Luna, and almost all the P2 valk, also just got Coralie's Alt the dragon one
For xtal, enough atleast to get a weapon from ticket and a Valk
I would get Luna then. Mei without her weapon is kinda bricked, whereas luna with dkey is just fine
and you have Peregrine sword who luna is good at supporting
Maybe do discount 10 pull for mei first tho
see if you get her, since if you do just get her weapon instead
GZ
whats the best team for herrscher of human ego?
is it rlly wit jade knight like de game suggests?
if u dont have divine key then yea
pulled PAWS from carnival but i dont have enough xtals for her weapon.. will she rerun any time soon or should i just craft her stigs and cope
Just craft stigs and cope
Wep not worth getting now
She can still support FDD or cope for grail with no wep
Maybe on symphony weather if u don’t have Luna say
im not tryna rank anyways so i will cope ! ty
I'm kinda confused what to do in the lobby event. I do hide n seek a few times, RPS, release a lantern, lucky draw, and turn in gift boxes at the feast. Is there anything else? Also is "Timely: An Eve's Miracle" something that gives rewards? Whenever I click on it, it just says "Online Versus not unlocked"
You need to do the story first
To unlock the online versus event
At least chapter 1 of event story
To unlock the deck
That’s pretty much everything tho
Ah, yeah I guessed it was that. Does doing it in the lobby give rewards?
Not really
ok ty!
What s rank I contains
when u open the box u can see what it has
and not need to immediately select someone
If* i were to consider dolphining (or just, very light whaling), whats the most valuable for low spenders
- who should I choose if it matters, 2, what teams should I be using now?
- which one should I get
||note: idk if silver wings dkey is gonna impact any advice you give but pls consider that ||
1- theyre all in a shop called asterite shop so it doesnt matter that much
but you can pick sugary starbust as shes a budget elemental support, not just ice
2- can use #💁gameplay-help message the stuff in here is obtainable in different ways, including asterite shop
3- #👶beginner-help message
||sw dkey can use a rank coralie and new mei for a team||
okay so like do I have a use for them
IDK if i have a use for either of them
like what is a "use case"
cuz it doesnt tell me 😭
a rank cora will use the team in the second point i made if youre despirate for a fire dps (even tho shesnt not a dps but it works for beginners)
new mei will have a rank cora as a support and starry impression/promethus/pardofelis as the last slot, the last slot is to just cover up the fact that u dont have a good third sot for now
new mei has her signature blade yes? or do you not know about it?
yeah i got xdc sig, and im using xdc vbm silverwing atm (tho silverwing does nothing lol)
nah swap silverwing with the options i told you
if you wanna use her a dps rn then a budget team of her, pardofelis, jade knight can work but youll ditch that later
that same team can replace herrscher of human with silverwing but i say use silverwing in there instead
|| is silverwing gonna be the main dps once she gets her dkey||
both
in your case, dps for now
both what XD
part 2 s ranks can be both supports and dpses
it depends on the team itself
who you set at the leftmost side is the leader and almost always the dps
how do i farm SS Imaginon?
also also wait so like, does ego/jade knight/calico work as a secondary team while I ||in theory hope and pray I get siliverwings dkey. When does that come out btw???||
best place to farm is expeditions, can also farm from adventure tasks and astrite shop
or should I swap the calico for the sugary starburst girl
aww man i thought there were more ways to, thank u
it will for you for now, youlll drop it later one since that team and gear youll put on them wont hold up
||8.8 in around april 30th||
nah, pardo will be used more in your case
who is pardo-
getting a character for something called dorm levels and elysian realm (shallow sequence) will make up for it
pardofelis, the catgirl
oh
SEE I CANT TELL THEIR NAMES MAN 😭
I keep looking at the title next to the star with their rank, not the big letters
its ok, youll learn slowly
its ok, the "title" aka battlesuits is what we use to call the characters
since the same character can have differet playable versions
the only reason i said pardo is because theres no second pardo for now
okay so in theory my two primary teams will be human ego/jade knight/ cat girl and ||in the future, xdc/vbm/silverwing||
||also because i dont know how to dig through the chinese server, when is dkey for silverwing gonna drop??||
||Idt silverwing has symbiosis||
yeah
but now the second team will be xdc, vbm, TA(promethus) or SI(starry impresssion)
||So more like silverwing xdc vbm||
who the heck is promethus TA
i mentioned around 30th of april
okay okay now heres another thing: I was told that if I can scrounge up enough gems, I should get the stick girl thats in carnival rn? and is that still accurate?
so ure not confused this is her default look, i just happen to have an outfit for her
yeah i dont got her lol
you can get her from a shop called asterite shop
oh i thought vbm sss was my prio?
She is, but you can only buy a limited amount of frags per week
- getting a third teammate is more of a benefit than VBm's ranks
You should only spend the free pulls on Carnival
you can delay sss vbm to unlock her
i just spent it on vbs 😭
if you cant get her rn you can use SI aka starry impression
No biggie, you wanna unlock her too eventually anyway
uhhh yeah this guy is also my sensei so like
For a starter account getting fws/fdd as support for just 60 pulls can really speed up participation in abis no?
True, but there's not enough time for getting Badum from Carnival atp
you doubt me and my spring break
Ah, thought you're a bit newer
well i mean im like 2 weeks in
Well, if you manage to get enough for hard pity you can go for it
Non-negotiable though, pity doesn't carry over from Carnival
okay so hard pity struggle time
GUYS MY HSR TRAINING FOR SPEEDRUNNING FINNA COME OVER
Imagine just getting 59 pulls and thinking surely we can skip the last one only to not get the valk 😂
xdd
wait yall
is pity at 60 more summons???
cuz mine says 70 and I used my 2 tickets on it-
how are yall gettin 59 lol-
someone flag this guy XD
anyways okay thanks gng
okay so what counts as a "use case"
Realistically speaking you can just grab Purana
youre desperate to use it
rn u shouldnt be
Keep it at lvl 35
gng im leveling hotr for hofi, which skill do i level? Im lowkey short on materials
||guys silverwing or HoHE upgrade? I have both, HoHE currently SS and bronya S. I am not confident if ill get her dkey||
from this box
i already have HoHE dkey and shes quite helpful
||Gotta spoiler tag the dkey part
HoHE ranks won't do much atp (she's pretty old), while SW's S2 is big
How many crystals do you have rn?||
What P2 valks do you have rn (including dkeys)?
only HoHE for now, crystals not a lot since i am close to getting mei's entire gear (reaching hard pity)
OHHH sorry p2 ill show
them
i dont have horb or dkey
no hofi either
||You should be able to get the dkey next patch even if you hard pity Mei's weap, I'd go for SW ranks||
You don't have the proper team for HoHE anyway to rank her up more
||is she synergistic with my current roster?||
||The opposite 
The roster is synergistic with her||
I will definitely be done with Mei so she can be considered in it
||Actually, nvm, didn't see PS and RS, she can support them (too early to tell whether she's good at that though)||
fuu, maybe i should wait then? i dont think theres a rush to pick anyone, unless i just want a fav for collection
then i will wait!
thanksss
just to make sure do u have the signature gear foe both characters?
nope but i dont really have too many valks (im currently saving for helias weapon for the next rotation, never got the chance to obtain hofis weapon and i just got hotr)
eh not worth it, you better keep your resorces for somehting else
you wont be able to utilize the valks like this
i dont think you get it
i want to use hofi. no matter how shitty she is
eh, at least get her dk
Whats worth getting from the spending event?
ure low on resources rn, leveling hotr wont help atm
check the pins
from where
wait for a rerun
it should rerun asp
if u can afford pulls for paws weap (seeing ure desperate) and keep the resources for that for now
HoFi's? I doubt it tbh
Should appear in BP atp
In like 8.9
maybe but it can rerun since its a dk
It had like 4 runs alr iirc
idk if that user gets paid bp but using hofi with whatever cope wont work either
What should i get here? Rn got JD and lantern s0...dont have SQ op
or should i get valk box for SW frag (already SS now) for upcoming dk
If I'm skipping next patch and can't get enough for sq aop, is it fine to get Lantern stamps?
Or should I get resource like source prisms and stuff
lantern ranks arent super notable but I'd prioritize them over prisms unless you're really low
if you are really low and it's the difference between having stigs or not or smth you could grab em tho
Can yall give me a quick and easy team for the new Raiden Mei?
Note: I have all 3 Elysia's if that helps and uh.. yeah thats it

I have little to no knowledge about the game (although I am lvl 82)
And so I'd appreciate if yall help... hehe
Anyone?
Pretty sure you can still be beginner level despite having captain lvl 88 so no worries hapi
Well i just used them for Luna dlcs so i have none. Tysm!
does your hohe have dkey?
ie, flawless benediction?
If she does, then you can run Mei, HLE, Hohe
if not, you're better off running VBM third
unless you have some other part 2 battlesuits
would be easier to give better advice if we saw your valkyrie list
Thanks for not judging!
Whats dkey?
A divine key is a new weapon released for a character to give them better stats or new mechanics. For the most recent dkeys, they're called stellar keys, and give the character access to the astral ring system.
For Hohe, it's the bow "flawless benediction"
you would have obtained it by rolling in the gacha, and it would mean she has a blue square on her image in the valkyrie select screen when she has it equipped
and would allow her to support Wheel of Destiny, Law of Ascenscion, and Grail of Infinitude dps
without it she cannot effectively support anyone
Don't have it unfortunately
Im using call of Crescent on her
Ah. Then yeah, you can use Mei, HLE, VBM
not as good as hohe with dkey but should work fine
She aint so good? I spend so much time working on her...
I have everything maxed (probably) on her..
Yea.. can tell..
it's HoHe, herrscher of Human Ego, who would need the divine key
that's the second elysia
HLE doesn't need one
Can I get the key somehow now?
It'll rerun in the gacha at some point but we don't know for sure when
Do you have VBM, that is, Valkyrie Blastmetal?
if so, you could go to the asterite shop and buy fragments for her
she's the best free support in the game
and can support both Hi Love Elf and Mei
what should I get in this box
Judgement free zone, community here is very helpful and give great advice so you won't get lost (esp since there's a lot to the game)
Purana is best meta wise but none are hugely impactful
Good to know
Well, there's technically two coralies and the other one is even better at supporting HLE, but the other coralie is gacha only. As is you can just run HLE leader with Mei and VBM support and Mei leader with HLE and VBM support
Just a question, against Vita's boss, is Vita VBM DSA my best team against it? Or just against things where Vita might be useful as dps
RoO is such an anomaly for me...
Vita dps is kind of cooked for you, you don't have Hofi or FDD
you'd probably be better off with Rita HLE Senadina against her bosses
unless they rerun type counter andrius or something
then you'd use mei hle rs
Oh forgot to note
Mei isn't 4/4... I just
Well... Pretty woman
yall
