👶beginner-help

[humble dawn]

like what if ur a new player

[shadow gyro]

ehhh nah
ur main aim for new mei and her sig

did u get both?

[humble dawn]

yeah

[shadow gyro]

well thats what matters this patch
do you have lunar vow?

[humble dawn]

no

but i did spend quite a hefty bit on getting fdd and mei weap

before finding out tjat reruns are a no go

also got mei w 10 pulls

[kind cliff]

Hi! Should I just stop pullign and prep for the upcoming patch/es?

I'm like at 150 chips rn or something for the spending event, have 0 xtals, no xentinel mei (at 9 pulls left) or DKey so like... Preeetty sure I won't be getting anything ||save up for next dkey? Or just the patch after the next one||

[gloomy acorn]

S0 all on carnival valks which s2 is best? Fdd?

[lyric anvil]

[shadow gyro]

pins
most likely fdd

[gloomy acorn]

Oghei

Pins only cover s0 me thonk

[shadow gyro]

hows your ingame progress like er, story etc
bc im inclined to tell u to skip

[shadow gyro]

its under the s0 talk

[gloomy acorn]

O

[lyric anvil]

I'm likely going for Vita since I have S2 FDD already plus S0 paws and fws-
Vita I don't have at all

[humble dawn]

is this reroll acc better than the one i have rn

[shadow gyro]

mind showing the 2 accs next to each other
and what did u do on em

[humble dawn]

the other one has full geared mei + fdd thats it, acc spent a total of 45k crystals

[shadow gyro]

ohh intresting

i would say xdc + fdd acc is ready
but ill lean on paws + fdd account since u sould get xdc there

u can still use both but at least focus more on the paws + fdd one since if u get mei u have full team alr

[humble dawn]

paws as a support wouldnt necessarily need her weapon right

[wraith oasis]

Should I go for fdd/fws? Or just skip? How much of a difference if I have one of those two? Right now I'm using luna dlc & vbm with xdc as leader.

[naive warren]

couple questions, what time zone is the game in and when are the carnival banners coming?

[oak estuary]

Its the server time iirc, and carnival should be at 12 server time, #status

[shadow gyro]

just use the free carnival pulls on them

if ud dont get u skip

[wraith oasis]

Okay then, there's subtle difference if I do get them?

[shadow gyro]

one is bis for GoI (mei and lv rings) and LoA ring if theres any new valk of that ring down the line and good cope for other p2 team
badum is bis for world star which you dont have any ||but next patch we do have world star related stuff||, also pretty solid in GoI especially for new mei because new mei have a skill for kiana battlesuit and also good for LoA stuff

you can see the pins if u want more opinion on them but i think getting either is fine
as i said u just use the free 20 pulls and thats it

oh also if you dont undrestand the p2 gimmicks let me know

[wraith oasis]

Used them, got one, but somehow a bit different

[kind cliff]

Ive got around 500 xtals left on er valks and most of story not finished

P1 story, HoS chapters, HoDom/Before the whole Bianka/KianaB story not finished

1.5 not finished

Only ch1 of p2 done iirc (and thr story from prev patch, did it for free luna vow)

[shadow gyro]

im thinking that you farm some pulls and wait a bit for now (youre late for raven boss anyways)
i wanna say get lv dk if u have lv but i need to know your weapon pity unless its 0

[kind cliff]

Here they are, also included the roster i have. All but Songque are 4/4

[shadow gyro]

hmm cheapest to get would be lv dkey but if you dont mind waiting you can grind pulls for now and ask in a bit
just incase theres any news that might change your pulling decisions
but im still leaning towards lv ngl and you can make her work fine

did u do anything for carnival btw

[kind cliff]

Used for FDD
Got a chipped tooth and some pennies

[shadow gyro]

hmm yeah then my opinion stays the same
you farm and wait a bit
if nothing new comes up that would change your mind then lv dkey

[kind cliff]

May i ask ehy when im 9 pulls away from xentinel?

Oh
Is it cause i have lv now, and i might end up wanting a diff valk in the future (not really that big of a fan of xentinel ngl...)? And also that 9 pulls might be the difference between having and not having 4/4

[shadow gyro]

slightly more pulls to grind
and lv can work for you and give u +10 atk
but if youre willing to grind a bit more then you can go for xdc and gear
just know that u missed 2 important shill already
while lv u only missed one shill

[marble dagger]

help

how does the carnival supply work? i thouhg you could also get the new Kiana badum battlesuit

[lyric anvil]

She's in the next rotation

[marble dagger]

OH

[shadow gyro]

check carnival guide in pins

[marble dagger]

is doing ONE ten pull on begginer banner worth it?

[shadow gyro]

its a rotation
fdd + paws first then fws + lp then reapeat the first 2 one last time

[shadow gyro]

just 1 single pull
unless you would like to reroll

[marble dagger]

damn

[shadow gyro]

the supply isnt worth it aside from rerolling

[kind cliff]

Damn rough...

Thx eitherway! I recently demoted from a3 iirc
Life's tough

[marble dagger]

oh

im 100% never gonna reroll

[shadow gyro]

its alright.. youll be able to climb evantually

[marble dagger]

bc i got Xentinel mei SUPER early like 30 pity

[shadow gyro]

alr just 1 pull on beginner then

did you get xentinel blade by any chance?

if not then this is your time

[marble dagger]

not yet

[shadow gyro]

also congrats

[marble dagger]

a single pull r? its lit required to get basic bronya in the story btw

like uhh Asta in HSR

[shadow gyro]

i suggest not comparing aspects in diff games

[charred basin]

when is new elysia outfit coming ?

[shadow gyro]

also i dont know hsr so

[shadow gyro]

for beginner supply theres a beginner manual task to ask you to pull only once and you get refunded by a ticket that gives 1 pull
meanwhile the dorm supply pull that ai chan forced you to do doesnt count

the supplies that you actually care about pulling with your crystals are the battlesuit supply when a new character drops and the equipment supply that gives you the signature gear for that character
anything else are reruns and things with low pull value
if you get free tickets for them you can use but not crystals

[kind cliff]

I will keep doing my best

[marble dagger]

OH I FORGOT THAT IT WAS DORM SUPPLY AND NOT BEGGINER SUPLY IM SO SORRY

[glacial patio]

is the hi3 story hard to follow or does it progressively get harder to folllow? pls dont spoil anything

would i need to pay alot of attention to understand it

[atomic leaf]

Which is best on a fresh account with nothing

[humble dawn]

the early stuff is very straightforward and with a very likeable cast, but as is the nature of most live service stories its bound to get more verbose later on, its mihoyo after all

[marble dagger]

Hey uhm for Xentinel Mei is her best support Kiana Badum or Coralie dragon?

[upbeat egret]

Kiana and dragon coralie

Both

[marble dagger]

also for her team with A ranks who should it be?

i have regular coralie...

who should be the last slot...

[upbeat egret]

Mei and A coralie are your only p2 characters?

[marble dagger]

yes...

bc i literally just started like 4-5 days ago

[glacial patio]

is there a way i can remmember everything without getting lost later on

[marble dagger]

for hoyo games spesifically Honkai titles id say watch lore vids AFTER you do the quest bc you basically played it more than once and can keep track of the details better

[marble dagger]

so... is there anyone i can get for free/ astrite shop that i can use

[digital kiln]

Who do i pull im carnival

[upbeat egret]

What do u have

[upbeat egret]

Let me think

[gleaming jolt]

songque from spending event

[gleaming jolt]

same question have xentinal mei and rita from p2

[marble dagger]

thanks for nothing! /j

[marble dagger]

i heard helia could be good bc shes world star? but idk

[upbeat egret]

Do you have her equipment?

[marble dagger]

idk

ive only done part 2 up to the part where i get JUST Coralie

[prisma oyster]

is it fine to get songqu aop if u dont have a ws team?

[glacial patio]

do you have any recommendations for channels?

[marble dagger]

its like a personal prefrence thing most of the time so i cant really reccomend much

[glacial patio]

oh okay

ty tho

[upbeat egret]

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[marble dagger]

i decided to get Helia bc of simbiosis tag

holy broken english

[prisma oyster]

im still a bit confused

so im aware of next patch but like i dont have the team regardless

does it matter if i take sonk i mean even if i pull next patch it'll be somewhat similar

[glad coral]

does anyone have the outfit banner odds chart

[shell basin]

!faq pyramid

[small willow]

Gacha Outfits

Be careful, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.

Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits

• DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
  • You need 9600 or 7680 if there is a discount.
• No competitive benefit.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

first link

[glad coral]

ty

[shell basin]

and then scroll down

[atomic leaf]

What is the best choice

I only have hohe

[shell basin]

purana but none are amazing

RC is a decent cope support and purana helps with that

while u wont use either of the other two

[wraith oasis]

Oh, since i already used the free pulls, these counts will carry to the next fws banner, right? It's just not carry to the next patch?

[marble dagger]

omg

i forgot that theres a weekly limit to the fragments fromt he astrite shop

i have to wait 3 days for 5 more fragments

[shell basin]

yes, pity will last for the entire 3 weeks of carnival

[wraith oasis]

Thank goodness

[marble dagger]

Wait whats this Sensei Cadet system? i cant find where the quests are

[marble dagger]

OH GOD HELIA IS FREE?! I JUST WASTER A TONA ASTRITES

[shell basin]

under friends

bottom left

[grim tangle]

Theyre easy to get anyway

[grim tangle]

I got her signature

[marble dagger]

YAY congratss

[grim tangle]

Thanks!

[marble dagger]

im watching HSR livestream rn

[grim tangle]

Oh yea, its out

Will miss the actual evanescia anniversary push

[humble dawn]

codes!

[grand frost]

Heyo! I was curious, who should I use my free carnival pulls on? I already have Coralie Dragon and her weapon but I'm not sure if Helia is nice?

[mental python]

The free 20 carnival pulls can be saved for the next carnival bunch right ? Kiana/Vita

[grand frost]

Should yeah, they last 22 days

[mental python]

Niceeee

[kind cliff]

||now that old3r valks are getting reintroduced with more dlcs, like we got one and another next patch, is it best to save up on AL/AW in case more buyable valks get more dlcs?||

[frozen crypt]

||We can't assume that this will be a new trend going forward, but yes an already farmable valk getting a dkey happening once I think is enough to justify keeping like. I'd say roughly 600/ 400 in reserve. You should be able to just start buying out the frags you need as soon as we get an announcement tho. Only a problem if you are missing a lot of WT valks.||

@kind cliff

I should update AW/AL priority

[kind cliff]

||I forgot that just because hoyo does something, doesn't mean it'll be a consistent pattern. But i do have quite a few more WT/ER Valks i haven't gotten so i think I'll just play safe...||

[frozen crypt]

Yeah I agree pwo are overrated as fuck anyway imo

[wintry juniper]

ngl I forgot what's PWO

[frozen crypt]

Prof btw

Pure witch orbs

[gleaming sandal]

Pure whel witch orbs

[frozen crypt]

Pure fossil orbs

[gleaming sandal]

Also hey lyo

[frozen crypt]

I'll be laughing at you all when 6S gets a dkey

(It won't happen)

Hi potlao

[gleaming sandal]

HoV first

[frozen crypt]

Pleaseeee

[gleaming sandal]

It actually might happen since, you know, da CN related stuff

[frozen crypt]

Nah idts

[wintry juniper]

owh, that thing kinda useless with WT now huh...

[jagged python]

so i just made my account for this game and really liked the dwnbearing cresent girl but was wondering if yall think i could get her before she leaves?

[wintry juniper]

should be more than possible with this patch being anniversary, meaning more crystals are given to players

[jagged python]

okk great also is this games pity the normal amount? like 90 for a guaranteed 5 star?

[glossy hemlock]

just got some extra spending event currency, should i get songque stamps for no ranks (already at ss), or lantern s1 or hohe ss1

[upbeat egret]

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[glossy hemlock]

was kinda of wondering since it doesnt seem to mention hohe anywhere

oh wait she's farmable now isnt she nvm then

[upbeat egret]

Yes she is farmable

[royal crag]

y am i unable to use xentinel here?

chapters 5 and 6 i

havent gotten to 7 so i dunno if ill be able to use her there

[grand frost]

Pretty sure chap 7 is set characters only
Most chapters are set characters, except for ex stages letting you use your own valks

[frozen crypt]

I think 5 and 6 don't allow you to use astral ring valkyries

[royal crag]

i c

[frozen crypt]

7+ forces you to use trials

[haughty hemlock]

Um what is this? Should i pull?

[frozen crypt]

no

!faq pyramid

[small willow]

Gacha Outfits

Be careful, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.

Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits

• DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
  • You need 9600 or 7680 if there is a discount.
• No competitive benefit.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

why did you do a 2nd pull?

[haughty hemlock]

I was trying to see where i can get this currency

[frozen crypt]

xd rip

no other way to get it than converting crystals

[haughty hemlock]

Oh ok so…
Also what even is this? Like some costume?

[frozen crypt]

yes gacha outfit

account destroying for f2ps

avoid

[inner bronze]

Who to pull on carnival fdd or paws
I have both s0

[haughty hemlock]

Ok 👍

[haughty hemlock]

Thank you for the help

[frozen crypt]

you own fws and vita?

[inner bronze]

Yes

[frozen crypt]

fdd then

[inner bronze]

Both s0

Ok thanks

[frozen crypt]

s1 is a team buff

[haughty hemlock]

Also what about this ?

Should i pull?

[frozen crypt]

thats what you should be pulling yes assuming you can also get her weapon

but you have no crystals

[haughty hemlock]

😢

[frozen crypt]

if ur account is new yeah go for it

if not I need more info

[haughty hemlock]

It is new

Like prolly only 2 weeks

[frozen crypt]

i see then yes pull her then her weapon

[haughty hemlock]

Ok 👍

[inner bronze]

Rip didnt get, but expected

Should i try get songq aop or take it chill
Idk what to get other than her

[frozen crypt]

are you done pulling everything?

[haughty hemlock]

I might need some help again 🙃
Does these carry over? Or do these expire?

[grand frost]

Expire in 22 days

[frozen crypt]

they expire, please see the carnival faq

!faq carnival

[small willow]

Carnival Supply

Excited for the free pulls, Captain?

Please see Professor Lyo's guide to Carnival Supply and what to pull in the current iteration [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[haughty hemlock]

Oh

[haughty hemlock]

Oh sorry 😞

[frozen crypt]

no you're fine just directing you to more info

[haughty hemlock]

Does it matter which carnvial supply i pull?

[frozen crypt]

what do you mean? like a or b? they have different valkyries

so yes

[haughty hemlock]

I prolly wont spend crystals on them though

[frozen crypt]

what crystals

[haughty hemlock]

Does these have other pull currency ?

[frozen crypt]

yes but paid not f2p

[haughty hemlock]

Ohh

[frozen crypt]

just spend the 20 free pulls on carnival and nothing else

[haughty hemlock]

Ok 👍
Thanks again

[frozen crypt]

read the faq to decide which valkyrie you want to go for and make sure her image is on the banner you pull

[cobalt pine]

i have hi love elf and senadina with full gear should i get coralie or xentinel and why

[gleaming sandal]

Pull new, not old

[inner bronze]

I believe so, got s0 mei and gear + luna fkey

[frozen crypt]

how many crystals do you have

[cobalt pine]

enough to get one and full gear

[frozen crypt]

then no point wasting more crystals just to get songque op

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

review this, maybe some stamps will be useful for you

[inner bronze]

Ok thx

[frozen crypt]

number?

[haughty hemlock]

I know its dumb to ask but where is faq?

[proud nebula]

Hello! I just wanted to ask how to complete the Genealogical Seat quest in the growth regimen?

[frozen crypt]

people say this to me then they actually have 10k

[boreal prism]

Are any of the other ones good? And should I lvl this one up?

[frozen crypt]

#👶beginner-help message

[frozen crypt]

!faq cof

[small willow]

How to find "Covenant of Finality"

Sorry for the confusion, Captain!

Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.

Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Click the image to Play!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[cobalt pine]

50 but i have so many unfinished story chapters and 50 left for guarantee on battlesuit supply

[frozen crypt]

50 crystals?!

[cobalt pine]

50 pulls

[serene crystal]

Level up Dreamseeker the other ones are not recommended to get before you have decent coverage and are pushing Nirvana

[frozen crypt]

oh LMFAO

[cobalt pine]

LOL

[frozen crypt]

I was like dude this is a new record

[cobalt pine]

new record of being broke

[frozen crypt]

as pot said earlier new is better than old, what I would recommend is keeping enough crystals to guarantee mei's weapon and spending excess on battlesuit supply

so when u get her you can be sure you get wep

[cobalt pine]

i kinda like coralie so i was trying to find a reason to get her but it seems like i cant lol

[gleaming sandal]

Pull smart, not hard

[cobalt pine]

alright thank you

[inner bronze]

I read the message, it says lamp's stamp > jds's stamp but they talked abt jds's before lamp's
Do i still get lamp's first?

[frozen crypt]

I mean if you want to it's honestly not going to brick your account

[gleaming sandal]

How many stamp you need to rank up them?

[inner bronze]

3 for both, and even then itll be for s1 lol

I only have enough to s1 one

[gleaming sandal]

Usually s1 ain't a good upgrade so

[inner bronze]

Yea but would still be a step closer to s2

Even tho im sure by then they wont be used even at s2 💀

[frozen crypt]

both lamp and jds have kinda shit ranks

[gleaming sandal]

[gleaming sandal]

Ye

[cobalt pine]

if i get xentinel im going to use her as dps hi love elf as support but if i get coralie im gonna use hi love elf as dps and coralie as support for most of time am i right?

[inner bronze]

Huhu
Should i just get prisms 💀

[gleaming sandal]

I personally would go for jds, but that's because my jds only need 30 to ss

[inner bronze]

Ill ss mine in 2028 ✌️

[gleaming sandal]

In your case, if you got nothing else you want, pick either

[grand frost]

Hey quick question, is story the only reliable way for crystals? I was looking for something faster because I've been sitting there and did 4 chapters in a row im a bit tired and I don't necessarily want to skip through the story 🙃

[gleaming sandal]

Apiss and ER

[inner bronze]

Still better to choose one of them than source prisms right

[jagged python]

do the graphics get better later in the game? so far i dont rlly know how i feel abt them

[frozen crypt]

nawww

[frozen crypt]

do you happen to be referring to the cutscenes?

hoyo compressed early cutscenes a while ago and kinda fucked them up

[frozen crypt]

ye do not get prisms lmao

[gleaming sandal]

If you wanna see p1 cutscenes, just go YouTube or smt

[prisma oyster]

elysian realm and abyss

[jagged python]

no i really just mean like the fighting animations and stuff and like the actual world graphics they just seem kinda.. idk how to explain it

[grand frost]

Does ER give a lot outside of deep sequence? I'm still Chatper 1 55% progress

[gleaming sandal]

Oh, trust me, it goes way better

[frozen crypt]

what valkyries are you using?

[gleaming sandal]

Shallow gib you more than you expect

[frozen crypt]

the earlier ones aren't as flashy

[cobalt pine]

@frozen crypt sorry for bothering

[frozen crypt]

coralie basically requires RoO valks supporting her to be a good dps

[jagged python]

alright good lol

[frozen crypt]

sorry I glazed over it xd

[grand frost]

I've done 6, only 1 that I haven't done yet and the rest of them are locked unfortunately

[gleaming sandal]

If you need some fighting scene, I can show you some of my ER run

[jagged python]

yea sure

[frozen crypt]

also remember xentinel can support hle, it works both ways. Whoever is the leader is the dps

[prisma oyster]

once u unlock the deep sequence u can get 500 xtals if u play in 2.25x difficulty

[gleaming sandal]

shameless self promotion
https://youtu.be/Z8vZEktJZhc?si=2TUYAUoA5_8BjMjA

[jagged python]

ty

[grand frost]

Oh I already have Deep Sequence, I just already did it this week

[gleaming sandal]

I would recommend you do 3 per week tho

[prisma oyster]

did u unlock abyss yet?

[gleaming sandal]

To get maximum ER coin

[jagged python]

oh yeah that is a LOT better 😭

[grand frost]

3? aren't the rewards 1 time only?

[grand frost]

Q-Manifold right?

[frozen crypt]

the crystals are, the coins require 3 runs to max but honestly it's a lot of work don't do it if it'll burn you out

[prisma oyster]

oh ok yeah thats for beginners but yes q manifold too

[gleaming sandal]

Yeah, but you gain da ER shop currency

[gleaming sandal]

It also help them level up their character to get more crystals

[grand frost]

I mean it's okay I've got Hi Love Elf Elysia pretty fun to clear with

[gleaming sandal]

Nice to see another ER enjoyer

[prisma oyster]

do u have any sensei? usually cade mission give quite a good amount of cyrstal

cadet*

[frozen crypt]

yeah true but man if I was a beginner feeling like I have to do ER on high diff multiple times a week I'd consider la

[gleaming sandal]

I didn't say anything aboot high diff

Lower diff can still gib you enough currency and level

[frozen crypt]

oh yeah for level spamming it's good

I just wouldn't want to add extra ER runs to beginners already massive plate of stuff to do if its purely for the coins

[gleaming sandal]

Tho I will recommend, slowly climb up da difficulty whenever you feel ready

[frozen crypt]

[grand frost]

I do, stuck until next adventure commissions reset though, I have to reach lvl 8 🙃

[gleaming sandal]

If need guide, I will be you guy... Pot.

[prisma oyster]

hey pot is 12 core run possible

[gleaming sandal]

We actually have discussed this before @frozen crypt

[grand frost]

Oh there's another one? :o

[frozen crypt]

have we xD

I don't remember

[gleaming sandal]

Could you kindly show him the chat?

[frozen crypt]

felis gambling?

I don't know where it issss

I forgotttt

[gleaming sandal]

Either you or chai and me

[frozen crypt]

I think it might be chai cuz I have no memory of it

[gleaming sandal]

Found it

[prisma oyster]

yesnt but basically once u breakthrough (lvl 80) its gonna be called abyss

the qmanifold

[grand frost]

Ahh

[prisma oyster]

looks like this

[gleaming sandal]

So as what I remember, maximum amount of core is 11

[grand frost]

Oof the hp inflation in Redlotus I might be cooked

[gleaming sandal]

IF you have unlimited amount of pardo coin

[prisma oyster]

then pardo run

[prisma oyster]

im in sea sweaty server, eu should be less punishing

[grand frost]

Almost didn't clear floor one

[gleaming sandal]

Which, will look something like this

[gleaming sandal]

So yeah, pardo with da slot machine run

Get multiple 200 coin and a 999 coin at da end

You could have like over 2000 first floor

[prisma oyster]

this is my best attempt and even that i was kinda unlukcy with rng

[gleaming sandal]

If lite

[slim blaze]

ER malders

[gleaming sandal]

First time know me?

[prisma oyster]

its kinda fun

big numbers go boom

[gleaming sandal]

Boom

[grand frost]

She's so pretty

[shadow gyro]

wha 16 sec????

[slim blaze]

ah yes

[gleaming sandal]

Simply achievable

[shadow gyro]

how??

[prisma oyster]

hell nah

i think i remember seeing 21/18 secs but 16??

[gleaming sandal]

One shot every floor

[gleaming sandal]

Best timer is HoFi for 14 sec

I can only do 16

[shadow gyro]

what build and signets tho
also im assuming sss maybe syn 3 too

[gleaming sandal]

Me too weak

[prisma oyster]

[shadow gyro]

don't think i can with s2+1

[gleaming sandal]

Ring build

Also yes, sss sith sync 3

[shadow gyro]

ah damn it

[gleaming sandal]

Sync 2 is possible tho

[shadow gyro]

might as well try ring build tho

[prisma oyster]

is that like 1700 atk or something

[gleaming sandal]

Yeah, even with ss and no sync you can still do sub 1

[shadow gyro]

hmm idk about me tho
im s2+1 with sloppy atk

but can attempt anyways

just need to see the rotation for the build n signets

[royal crag]

yall pls tell me im gonna be allowed to use xentinel from story 8 and onwards shes the only reason i downlaoded this game burh

[gleaming sandal]

Nope, not until p2 iirc

[prisma oyster]

well..

[royal crag]

oh hell nah

alright im done i got what i wanted anyway

[grand frost]

Well as we told you earlier, chapter 7+ you're restricted to trial characters, though ex stages in said chapters let you use your own characters

[royal crag]

can i skip the entirety of p1?

[shadow gyro]

just use her elsewhere
you won't stay in each story chapters for long

you still need to do other content too

[grand frost]

I think you unlock p2 at something like captain lvl 30? I'm not sure exactly when but you can swap to p2 without having finished p1

[royal crag]

yup i got it why is it so big tho p1 stories were liek 30 mb

[wraith oasis]

for f2p casuals, what's the best abyss tier should i stay?

[gleaming sandal]

Or do you? Some chapter took a lot longer than other, I'm talking aboot you moon arc

[prisma oyster]

if ur lucky technically rl but ag3 is fine

[shadow gyro]

the ow chapters do that time if you wanna max em but on a daily basis you'll only stay a bit every time

[wraith oasis]

okay then, ag3 it is

[shadow gyro]

since u need to move on to other dailies

[shadow gyro]

any tier is doable depending on how much do you care about meta and refining your skills

[royal crag]

are apho and p2 different?

[shadow gyro]

ideally redlotus

[prisma oyster]

yes its different timeline

[shadow gyro]

yeah
lore wise apho is after part 2
gameplay wish it is but they have some similarities in terms of moon ring and astra ring system

ow completion wise they've not related

[royal crag]

what are the best ways to get crystals for a new player

[frozen crypt]

!faq otc

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[gleaming sandal]

Beginner mission and stuff, unlocking new stuff, especially ER and apiss

[frozen crypt]

plus play ER + abyss every cycle

and ER crystal mining

[royal crag]

a piss?

[frozen crypt]

abyss

[gleaming sandal]

Abyss

[royal crag]

oh lmao

[frozen crypt]

potlao confusing the beginners smh smh

[gleaming sandal]

A place that piss me off, apiss

[royal crag]

theres open world in hi3?

[frozen crypt]

yes

mini ones

[royal crag]

so uhh how do i gain access to it

[gleaming sandal]

Kinda, not rly

[royal crag]

oh

[gleaming sandal]

Tide to captain level iirc

[royal crag]

also this new event i assume earth has contact with kiana?

[gleaming sandal]

This I will suggest you watch da story by yourself

Or else the fun will be ruin

[frozen crypt]

APHO level 40
sakura samsara, schicksal HQ lvl 50

[frozen crypt]

we are not allowed to discuss story spoilers in here

[royal crag]

alright but itll take a veeerryyyyy long time as no mei usage + busy with lotm n studies so lil spoiler?

[royal crag]

oh alirght

[gleaming sandal]

Go #📚honkai-lore if you really want to

@frozen crypt that's da right channel right?

[frozen crypt]

ye

[grand frost]

I don't know who created this enemy but I don't like them..
Any tips to clear in time? It's Shallow Seq for HoHE

[shadow gyro]

there's ER guides in pins

both for deep and shallow

[grand frost]

thank u

[crisp gale]

Hey there, so
I decided to upgrade my allow gluttony a bit for a bp daily
And when i colored in the fourth star it turned purple
You can do that?

[gleaming sandal]

Show me the ego signet

[gleaming sandal]

Nvm, lemme record one

[frozen crypt]

is this the card event?

[crisp gale]

Huh?

[frozen crypt]

I don't understand what you said so I thought it might be about the event cuz I haven't touched it

but if its not the card event please reword your question

[crisp gale]

I got the weapon Alloy Gluttony from a box
3* with an empty 4th star
I decided to upgrade it a bit
And its background turned from blue to purple when that fourth star highlighted

[frozen crypt]

oh I see

yeah it's normal, you shouldn't have upgraded that weapon tho

[crisp gale]

Oh...
I thought it looked cool and is my only sword with a alternate stat then attack

My bad

[frozen crypt]

alternate stat?

[crisp gale]

It has crt

Alot more then the only other sword i have that is

I didnt realize the other sword got 2 crt when i leveled it

[frozen crypt]

crt is not a good stat, it is part of the crit rate formula but only contributes a tiny amount.

[crisp gale]

Oh

[frozen crypt]

we do not have things like scaling off def/hp/crt etc. atk is the only stat that really matters here

and tbh you shouldn't level a weapon purely because of its stats

effects matter far more, and realistically you shouldn't level a weapon unless its BiS on someone because you will waste all your materials

[crisp gale]

Oh........

Welp
Then next time i have a cool weapon i like the look of, i wont level it and instead just equip it at whatever its base level is 👍

Well
Side question

Is there a point to the starting Kiana?
Now that i have this A rank Divine Prayer one from when i was gachaing?

[gleaming sandal]

Well

[gleaming sandal]

Isn't FoV do scale with HP?

[frozen crypt]

I word it that way to ensure people don't start trying to choose gear based on stats rather than effects

[gleaming sandal]

Ah okay

[frozen crypt]

let's say for the sake of argument yes she does, even if there was a fist weapon that gave hp stat for example its not going to be better than her actual one or another fist that benefits something relevant like fire dmg

[gleaming sandal]

Valid example

[frozen crypt]

plus doesn't most of her hp scaling come from her own stigs

[gleaming sandal]

Yeah

[maiden garden]

Btw b/w weaponless paws and dkey luna s0 both. Who do yall expect to support hle/xdc better

Also if i plan to pull s chenuxe for cosmetic reason and all i have currently is goi valks, are there any other options that might be better than sonq aop in spending

[frozen crypt]

chenxue and songque (aop version) have pretty different coverage

[gleaming sandal]

Get all to sss, problem solved
For real tho, not recommend pulling both

[frozen crypt]

not sure how they compare to each other at S

tbh

[gleaming sandal]

They don't

[frozen crypt]

thought they might have ari regen differences

but yes on paper they shouldn't be compared cuz they have different roles

I'm also completely out of touch with how good/bad wepless paws is all I know is without wep u lose timestop

[shell basin]

really bad as a dps

bricks your SO since you don't start with 900 sp

[frozen crypt]

xd

[shell basin]

So even copes like Lantern or VBS pri arm wont save it

as a supp should be fine outside of MA

[frozen crypt]

any idea for support tho

I think surely luna better

goi

can't imagine a valk with missing gear being better than one with gear but then again luna goi support is kinda niche?

[shell basin]

Yeah. I think paws LoA supp isnt greatly hit but paws LOA supp is all about her damage anyway

paws GOI tho no timestop on her ult 3 is

painful

[frozen crypt]

yeah lmfao

very

[shell basin]

Maybe still better than luna still if

• you're not using sus dps, and
• she has type advantage, and
• You have a decent cope crossbow
  but that seems very narrow

and only for loa

[quick birch]

well that's only if you dont have 3/3 symbioses, RoO also wont do here, but yeah she's relatively sad without her weapon

[eternal spindle]

how to rotate (specifically in SO) for xde hle lv? (each of them being dps)

[shell basin]

no ROO works fine

it's from leader skill

Paws Hofi VBM would work

[quick birch]

yes but symbioses units increase max SP in SO

so then weaponless paws can still at least do a short SO, ik this isnt very practical but it works

[maiden garden]

Im using xdc hle paws/luna

[maiden garden]

Hmm so ideally best option is still sonq op

[shell basin]

If you ||arent pulling Youyun|| then yes absolutely

[maiden garden]

Thx

[visual relic]

For rerolling this patch in the pins it says that the valks are great supports without their weapons, so I’m guessing we only pull for them and craft their stigmata’s this time?

[shell basin]

yes, from a meta pov that's reccomended

[thorny belfry]

is there a way to get a free s star in this version? (like a reward or smth)

[frozen crypt]

yes there is a free S rank option box in this patch, it's not available just yet

just keep playing

[thorny belfry]

when will it be available 😭

[frozen crypt]

idk I'm not home to look at in-game news

check there

I will find out later

[thorny belfry]

alr alr

ty :D

[shadow gyro]

mar 16
from log in

or at least after march 16 if its not the first thing in the log in

[slim blaze]

if im rolling for CX, probably not worth it if only S rank yeah?

[shell basin]

Prolly not yeah

[slim blaze]

what about teriri

then again i should probably just save

[eternal spindle]

https://youtu.be/VbOgzWDnq-M

elp

[shell basin]

Teri works at S rank but is pretty old atp

[slim blaze]

hmm

just gotta wait for 8.8 news i guess

[shell basin]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[slim blaze]

i mean stats wise

[mellow dirge]

Hi, Im thinking about downloading the game, and in the hoyoplay launcher it says the game is 30gb, is that rlly the size or is there more once you open the game?

[bitter forum]

i only have mei, should i use carnival tickets on kiana?

[shell basin]

Yes, she should be the best option for you

[shell basin]

!faq gamesize

[small willow]

v8.7 approx. install size

• Mobile

basic assets ~ 30.5 GB
full assets ~ 41.5 GB

• PC

basic assets ~ 43.5 GB
full assets ~ 57.5 GB
(Event files that come out after are not counted here)

[shell basin]

43.5 for game on PC

[mellow dirge]

Wow, thats less then I expected
Thanks!

[dense hull]

can this be earned through companion xp?

also why is her outfit but not her character out?

[frigid harbor]

that outfit is from gacha

[jade garnet]

This is a gacha outfit

[dense hull]

oh ok thx

[jade garnet]

I dont think you can get an outfit thru companion xp unless things have changed while I have been away

[shadow gyro]

no there's no outfit for companion xp here

[jade garnet]

As for this I think they will rerun her like 2 weeks from now

[dense hull]

is it possible to build a team with this?

[jade garnet]

HoV SI TA/Pardo

It wouldn't be very good but it's probably fine for beginner content

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message
the characters that u don't have that are in this link are obtainable

[dense hull]

😔

[shadow gyro]

let me take screenshots

[frozen crypt]

you need to get a vpn if you live in the uk

that shit is basically mandatory now

[shadow gyro]

ignore herrscher of human if not going for beginner rush

[shadow gyro]

everyone but herrscher of the void, herrscher of human and jade knight are in the asterite shop
and i would suggest getting blastmetal card and hammer from the start of part 2 OW then fragments from the asterite shop

jade knight is in the beginning manual and you have herrscher of the void

[shy hatch]

i know this might sound silly but i couldn't dismantle helia's sig stigmatas for some reason?

[shadow gyro]

herrscher of human is in war treasury but don't get just for these teams but you should get her eventually for other reasons

[shadow gyro]

what do you mean? can you show?

[shy hatch]

ok wait

[frozen crypt]

is it locked?

or equipped?

[shy hatch]

I unequipped and unlocked them but they don’t show here

[frozen crypt]

you're wanting to dismantle those exact ones?

[shy hatch]

Yes those exact ones

[shadow gyro]

they might be on cooldown
but why do you wanna salvage?

[shy hatch]

I need prisms bad

[frozen crypt]

damn times must be desperate to be wanting to salvage those

[shadow gyro]

use password lock unless u can wait

[shy hatch]

Very desperate

[shadow gyro]

but you did level these up so it feels kinda iffy to get rid of them

[frozen crypt]

yeahh

[shadow gyro]

did you use up any p2 stigmata boxes you have?

[shy hatch]

Its either that or wait one million years to get enough

[shy hatch]

Yes ALL of them

[shadow gyro]

there's past events but it takes forever to get the prisms

[shadow gyro]

hmm yeah then use password lock if you're in that much of a rush

[shy hatch]

im sorry whats password lock

[shadow gyro]

basically u can put a password so your stuff can't be unlocked without it (incase u get hacked)
but it also lets you bypass the cooldown

u just need to remember ur password

[gaunt crescent]

Guys if I have this setup with full gears am I still cooking?

[shy hatch]

interesting

i didn't know that ty ill do it

[dense hull]

who should i try the 10 free pull on?

[shadow gyro]

no worries
go to ur name in the top left and its in one of the menus there

[wicked cargo]

HOW

!!!

[dense hull]

anniversery log in

[shadow gyro]

see the carnival guide in pins

[wicked cargo]

I been looking 😢

[shy hatch]

tytyty

[shadow gyro]

its still not out for na yet

will be shortly

[shy hatch]

unrelated question but the carnival kiana banner is tomorrow right?

[shadow gyro]

who has full gear?

[wicked cargo]

How shortly 🥺

[shadow gyro]

after this round ends

[gaunt crescent]

All the newbies from When 2.0 started and thelema

[shy hatch]

oooo i see

[shadow gyro]

12 pm server reset apparently

[wicked cargo]

25 more minutes 🥺

[shadow gyro]

honestly the only ones that are meta here are the p2
not counting the ones that got new divine keys because you don't have them

its still recoverable enough if you wanna catch up

but if you don't care about meta then its more than fine

[gaunt crescent]

Got it imma push hard to recover. I think i may be able to swing getting this mai gonna push hard with events and everything and hope for the best

[raw wraith]

i have 2 tickets what i should pull ?

[dense hull]

howd you get aide?

[shy hatch]

it's doable you can do it

[shadow gyro]

asterite shop

its a shop that have all the a ranks

you get fragments until you have enough to unlock the character
and you can rank them up too

for coralie or blastmetal tho i would suggest getting her from the part 2 story first then the shop

[vivid warren]

is there a specific one I should do? also how long do they take to get all the rewards

[serene crystal]

You can follow the reading order in #📚honkai-lore pins. In general go from left to right is the best idea.

[gaunt oak]

which s2 is the best to get for carnival supply?

[shell basin]

If you have everyone, FDD

!faq carnival

[small willow]

Carnival Supply

Excited for the free pulls, Captain?

Please see Professor Lyo's guide to Carnival Supply and what to pull in the current iteration [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[gaunt oak]

okii ty

[south trellis]

Guys am I going insane? When is Elysias skin out globally? </3

[vast parrot]

Hoping I can get FDD weapon in 10pulls. Not sure who to spend the 20 free supply cards on tho. Have ffd and fws

[shell basin]

Don’t pull for weapon if only 10 pulls

Carnival banners don’t share pity

[vast parrot]

Isn’t ffd worthless without weapon tho?

[shell basin]

Could consider paws. It would let you do FDD dps

[quick birch]

should be in a few minutes for NA, otherwise check the in game news tab for the exact time

[shell basin]

He can supper with baby coralie hammer

It’s a lil worse but still works

[south trellis]

Thank goodness, I've been waiting so impatiently for Lunar Grace! 😭

[vast parrot]

Gotcha. Well I guess I could go for rank ups on ffd since I won’t have enough for paws weapon if I even got her

[shell basin]

Paws can also support FDD without wep

But not good for much else

Maybe a really cope hitcount

If you don’t have ps / luna

[vast parrot]

Eh I have PS for hit count if I needed

[shell basin]

Do you have vita or hofi?

[vast parrot]

Everyone but FDD has weap/stigs

[shell basin]

Then yeah might as well go FDD ranks

Maybe S2 FDD occasionally worth using as a supp over other options

And you can’t do FDD dps even with paws

[vast parrot]

Yeah I was wondering if trying for vita just for another ROO valk would be a good idea but I know weapons are mostly make or break

Pretty new to hi3. Started on p2 and have been inconsistent with it tbh

[shell basin]

No point in vita idt, even if she’s coping with sena wep she doesn’t do much for you

Since you already have WS supports that are better than wepless vita

And Sena for WoD

[vast parrot]

I appreciate the advice 🙂

[shell basin]

No prob

Now time for me to try and fail to get S2 FDD myself

[wicked cargo]

Wait where is ba dum :((

[shell basin]

Next cycle

Will be a few days

[wicked cargo]

MY HEART

I assume after the 6 days ends?

Also for the free pulls can I save them for the next cycle or should I use them now?

[serene crystal]

You can save

[past wing]

hey guys i just got bfdd, assuming im not planning to pull the weapon, is it worth maxing out the free blast hammer?

[serene crystal]

If you are going to use her together with VBm then yes.

Else she can just use VBm's sig

[past wing]

oh i was planning to use her with xentinel and badum

[serene crystal]

Then you don't need to upgrade the hammer.

[past wing]

i see cool thanks!

[crisp gale]

I just got 20 free pulls on carnival from like, 2 token things from an event claim?
Do these expire? And if not, should i use them to try and get some cool battlesuits? At least 1 more would help me with dorm things

[serene crystal]

See the pinned carnival banner guide. They vanish when the carnival banners go away.

[crisp gale]

Ok, so
Just drop them?

Ima put one into each of the 2 banners
Might get lucky

[frozen crypt]

Read the guide first

No

[crisp gale]

Oop
Ok

[frozen crypt]

You'll most likely end up spending both on fdd

[crisp gale]

FDD? Okay

I mean, its really easy
The pulls expire
Theres 2 options
Might as well use them

Wish me luck!

[serene crystal]

There are two other options in a week.

[frozen crypt]

^^

Its not just those 2

[crisp gale]

Oh! 22 days left on these

[frozen crypt]

There is another valk potentially worth considering hence the recommendation to read the guide

This time it is not a clear winner

!faq carnival

[small willow]

Carnival Supply

Excited for the free pulls, Captain?

Please see Professor Lyo's guide to Carnival Supply and what to pull in the current iteration [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[crisp gale]

Ngl
I dont know if any of these guys are better then the others

But dragon sounds cool

That a fair reason?

[hardy lintel]

how good is the carole battle suit. the fate defying dragon? because idk but i would like to try get it if possible, although I fear that i would just be wasting resources as i doubt in my current condition i would be capable of acquiring both her and her weapon along side the Raiden Mei new Weapon (already got her Battle suit

[crisp gale]

I elected, this was a good reason
I got 2 Valk Blastmetal from the 10 pull
Noooo
I heard you get her for free

[hardy lintel]

btw, i have a weaponless kiana badoom or how the BS is called. would it be wise to try and get her's?

[serene crystal]

FWS doesn't have a lot of bosses and can support well enough without weapon so trying to get her weapon is questionable

[hardy lintel]

would yku advice me to get kiana DB weapon or better try going for her? or straight up skip everything and get mei's

[serene crystal]

Focus on XDC

[hardy lintel]

im currently think of just saving till i can either afford something or dump it all on mei before her banenr ends

[hardy lintel]

who?

[serene crystal]

Xentinel Dawnbearing crescent

[kind hull]

how much is needed for this last pull? i miscalculated my crystal count

[kind hull]

i was 500 off, damn...

[wicked cargo]

Everyday I hope she gets a dkey

[crisp gale]

Friend of mine did the second ten pull
I got Midnight Absinthe and like 1500 asterite from his pulls
I think these free pull off banners i wasnt planning to save for anyway were productive

[turbid fossil]

ugh i lowkey wanna get this for DP

shes so pretty and one of my fav characters

[cyan mortar]

is she good (am a new player)

[serene crystal]

Without weapon she is support for Grail of Infinitude and Law of Ascension valks.

Has some specific use for hitcount fights

[crisp gale]

Wait
I got 2 extra blastmetal
Will the free story one just give me fragments?
If so, i think i have a free pass to a S rank blastmetal

[serene crystal]

Good you generally want to get her to SSS so you save some Asterite.

[crisp gale]

Oo

[serene crystal]

See Asterite pin.

[crisp gale]

I also see she has an Astral Ring stat?
Thats pretty cool

[turbid fossil]

should i use my 2x 10s on her?

[serene crystal]

Yes VBm is recommended because she can be a filler support for all astral rings.

Also yes she is one of the two who we recommend trying to get from carnival, just don't spend crystals for her and only the free pulls.

[turbid fossil]

well.. i got her on my first 10x..

[serene crystal]

Good then save the other one for Fiery Wishing Star.

[turbid fossil]

is she good with mei?

[heady bramble]

Need some advice, returned a few weeks ago, got Xentinal SS with her weap and stigs, and got LV for free during the event and her weap and using Julius Caesar on her.

What should I focus on now? Mainly focusing on Mei/Xentinal based teams

[serene crystal]

Yes both can support XDC

[wispy aurora]

Who would be the best option for me? Tempted to get Vita Levels if she comes home

FDD - S + Wep
PAWS - S2 + Wep
Badum - S + Wep
Vita - S + Wep

[serene crystal]

BFD in your case see pinned guide.

[crisp gale]

I also got one new weapon out of the 20 pulls
Pulse Katana Type-17
Thatll be cool one day no doubt

[serene crystal]

I would try to get either FDD or FWS with the free pulls, else just save

[heady bramble]

went for FDD with the free 20x and didnt get

[crisp gale]

I can now apparently do 4 errands at a time now thanks to my 2 new chars
We love that

[serene crystal]

She is still the best option if you want to burn your resources but I would not recommend it.

[heady bramble]

her or FWS?

[serene crystal]

Either

[lyric anvil]

What to pull?

[shell basin]

Paws

S2 looks good on her

[turbid fossil]

fws is coming to the little carnival supply?

[serene crystal]

next week

[turbid fossil]

ohh okay. also is she a better version of VBM?

[shell basin]

Pretty much

[turbid fossil]

so who should i put on a team with mei

[viscid maple]

definently with coralie

[frozen crypt]

both coralies

[viscid maple]

Yea that might be best rn

[turbid fossil]

tyy <3

[frozen crypt]

if you need bleed specifically you can use SI

instead of normal coralie

[viscid maple]

starry impressionnn

[frozen crypt]

might come across that scenario this patch cuz luna bosses may be shilled

with bleed

[lyric anvil]

Just bleed mobi

[frozen crypt]

like if u hit exalted before april somehow yeah there is mobi

[serene crystal]

You may stil be better of without SI, the damage loss is quite large.

[frozen crypt]

yeah depends how shit the mechanics are lol

[turbid fossil]

i actually love her so much

shes so cute and fun to play

[acoustic ivy]

did you guys roll for 3 copy of dk or just 1?

[ancient needle]

3 is for dolphins and above

One is enough even in Nirv

[shell basin]

Assuming you got ranks

S2 sync 1 kinda sad

But SS sync 1 is fine for Nirv

And outside of Nirv super not needed

[amber sentinel]

Got some weapon resonance which weapon should I exgange these for?

[shell basin]

Judah

[amber sentinel]

Oath of Judah it is

[lyric anvil]

S2 FDD

[molten bane]

does anyone know what this mean? 😭😭💔

[vivid warren]

which one should i pull on? (returnee with like no modern valks)

are the other two coming later or something

[shadow gyro]

you put a password lock as it seems and u need to enter it to do some actions

[shadow gyro]

check the pinned guide

do you have any idea about astra rings btw?

[vivid warren]

not a clue, someone sent me a doc about it but i havent gotten far

[shadow gyro]

doc huh? just see the carnival guide in pins for now

[molten bane]

I don't remember the password i play honkai for a long time but still that thingy is so annoying

[vivid warren]

maybe im mistaking it for something else... ill check pins tho ty

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message this is what u want

[raven bane]

who is overall better fdd or fws

[shadow gyro]

hmm im not sure what you can do about that, maybe check with #🔌technical-help ?

[shadow gyro]

as in?
from carnival?
from starter supply?
in a certain team?

[molten bane]

I will 😭😭 thanks btw!

[shadow gyro]

if for carnival check the message i linked

[raven bane]

general

[shadow gyro]

too dependant

depends on your account as well

[raven bane]

this is all i have

[shadow gyro]

fdd is more appealing because of breach and also supporting your vita ssuming she got her sig weapon, and as a roo act as a filler slot (u dont have that issue tho)
fws is favored by xdc because of her kiana skill but she cant do anything to vita lead (again assuming you have her sig gear)
she also have domain resonace which is good for world star characters ||matters because next patch we have a ws dps||

all n all if your vita has her sig gear, then fdd, if not, its a tie for both

but fws might be appealing for second case

[raven bane]

i do have her sig

[crystal sluice]

Ummm how good is she with Mei again☠️

[shadow gyro]

then fdd is more appealing

[raven bane]

aight thank you so much

[shadow gyro]

very good, offer breach and doesnt take much time, only in rare cases may be replaced by hle + fws in xdc team because mei have skills for them
but u also fot s2 so more value

[crystal sluice]

Do I need to pull for weapon then

Cause I got this from one ten pull😭

[shadow gyro]

no

the weap is needed for dps usecase and does give buffs but this is a rerun so lower pull value and the pity doesnt carry over

use the pulls on important stuff that you didnt finish or just save it

[crystal sluice]

Okay Im not using her as a dps anyway

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[crystal sluice]

Can I craft the stigmata instead of pulling for them

[shadow gyro]

theyre in foundry yeah

[crystal sluice]

Also when is Kiana coming to the carnival I thought shed be here

[shadow gyro]

also if you were around in 8.4 she got a box with her stigs

u can get one

if not then just use foundry

[shadow gyro]

after both fdd and paws

theres 4 rounds

shell be in second and fourth

[raven bane]

if get lunas dlc for xdc who would be best for third slot

also is there huge dmg gap between this team and xdc fws hle

[crystal sluice]

Does FDD replace Blastmetal or Terminal Aid

[quick birch]

terminal aide

[crystal sluice]

Okay
Whats the rotation please

[quick birch]

just any symbioses unit will do fine, preferably symbioses supports like fdd/fws/ps/hle/paws who ever you have but in RL you should be fine with just any symb unit.
The dmg gap between xdc/fws/hle and any other xdc/lv/+symb unit shouldnt be too big but it depends on what the boss needs ig

[serene crystal]

FDD as support generally does QTE WA ULT

[quick birch]

^just replace ta's sequence with that

[serene crystal]

For some starts you can time it so that you can do the entire basic sequence and hit the last hit as the enemy spawns in which gives you access to enhanced WA and then ULT faster then normal.

[raven bane]

but cost wise going for lv would be wiser right

[quick birch]

cost wise yes but if you already have 2 symbioses supports for xdc idk if you'll even be using LV, though if you have the funds she's still a decent pull imo, +10 atk is always good + she covers bleed as a niche if you dont have that already

[atomic leaf]

Is helia worth

Or dragon

[quick birch]

your SO rot with mei would also change quite a bit, you can now do
enter SO -> ult x 4 -> ca x 3 -> fdd qte -> wa -> ult -> mei qte -> ult x2 -> ca -> wa

[quick birch]

generally you would only wanna spend the free pulls on the carnival banner and for those you'd want to use them on either fdd or fws, check the carnival guide in the pins for more info

[raven bane]

i dont think i even have symbioses other than xdc lol then i will be going for lv

well it came earlier than expected 20 pulls

[quick birch]

oh nice

[raven bane]

i am assuming i should spend my remaining pulls for fdd right

[quick birch]

i'd just save tbh, carnival won't carry pity and i can't really recommend to extensively dump pulls on it

[fervent furnace]

FDD does not need her weapon right? I’m assuming she does need her stigmas though

[quick birch]

yeah, if you got lucky just craft her stigmata and call it a day

[fervent furnace]

…I forgot we can craft them, Tyty!

[vale gazelle]

Is this game f2p

[shell basin]

Depends on your goals. If you want to be top 5 server no not at all. If you want to retain Redlotus sure, in a few patches. If you want to collect cute characters yes absolutely

[vale gazelle]

I want to be able to clear all content

Not get top anything

[shell basin]

If you want to be able to clear all content yeah trivial as F2P

[vale gazelle]

Ok who should I get as a beginner or what should I focus on

[shell basin]

Endgame nodes are all PvP for more rewards but you can get most of the rewards on a very cheap budget of crystals that F2P can mostly afford

Without any issues

[shell basin]

For meta purposes, we suggest Mei and her weapon, and build up the free battlesuits “Valkyrie Blastmetal” (available in part 2 story, alongside her weapon) and terminal aide (available in the asterite shop)

[vale gazelle]

How long do I have to get her

[shell basin]

You have 5 weeks before her banner goes away

[vale gazelle]

Ok what should I focus on to get currency

[shell basin]

Part 1 story mainly. You’ll also want to make sure you’re clearing abyss (qmanifold) twice a week for your renewable crystal sources, and the Elysian realm once you unlock it

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[vale gazelle]

Who do I invest in to clear p1 story

[shell basin]

For P1 story you can use pretty much whoever early on. After chapter 7 they make you use trial battlesuits

But in the mean time

Until you have more options

!faq Fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[raven bane]

HoHe or HoTr

[shell basin]

!faq ches

[small willow]

Not Giving Advice is better than Wrong Advice!

Hi Captain! Sorry to cut you off...

Ai-chan recommends that you leave the advising to more experienced captains, but we appreciate your enthusiasm.

If you aren't sure if the advice you want to give is correct, please wait for others in the channel to answer instead. You wouldn't want to be responsible for someone making a huge mistake!

[raven bane]

i dont think its wrong tho HoHe alone can clear anything in p1 main story

[outer spruce]

so can a lot of early game valks

[mortal carbon]

you dont have an option to use them after chapter 7, it quite literally forces trial valks

[shell basin]

Yes, but it’s an absurd investment in ancient legacy just to get a slightly better clear for the first 7 chapters

Which almost anyone can do

[raven bane]

isnt it given out free for new players?

[shell basin]

No

[outer spruce]

level rush is paid

[raven bane]

oh so that was an event

[shell basin]

And hotr isn’t given out at all

[raven bane]

i was talking about the box thingy that offered new players to choose HoHe or HoTr

[outer spruce]

the hotr hohe choice was an event yeah

[shell basin]

Yeah that event was 2 patches ago. There’s another event box this patch but neither HotR and HoHE are reccomended from it

[raven bane]

i thought that was perm thing for new players mb

[shell basin]

||Silverwinf N-EX|| is reccomended from it

And she can clear story fairly well once you get her

[vale gazelle]

So for this charcater there is no team listed

[raven bane]

they were the only options from the box afaik lemme check

[shell basin]

Yes I’m talking about the new box

[raven bane]

oh wait sorry i didnt readed it properly i thought you were talking about the old box mb

[outer spruce]

if you're using her for story, she doesn't need a team

[shell basin]

Yeah. Though you can use terminal aide or Reverist calico or Blastmetal if you want

[crisp gale]

I got my hands on Scarlet Fusion
I am NOT going through what i am with Valk Gloria, and i have over 100 honkai pieces

Should i make a King Cobra, Vanguard, or Crimson Queen? I want Scarlet Fusion to have a real weapon, as i plan to use

[glacial patio]

whats the best language to play the game in?

and is there some kind of way i can find an order to play the story in?

[serene crystal]

There is a pinned reading order in #📚honkai-lore which may be useful since the early parts of the game have a lot of supplementary material.

[glacial patio]

okay ty

[serene crystal]

Story questions in general also go there.

There is some content which is only voiced in Chinese mainly some events but what language you play in is personal preference.

[glacial patio]

are some of those out of game mangas? or is it all in the game?

[broken ocean]

Hi guys, I just started (been playing for a week and having fun) but I had two questions:

1. How long should I expect to be able to use my Mei? I got the Xentinel battlesuit and her weapon but i know power creep is a concern for a lot of gacha games
2. Anything I should be doing to maximize my crystal gain?

[glacial patio]

does it have english

[serene crystal]

No, there is only Chinese and Japanese VO.

[glacial patio]

which one do you prefer i think ima do chinese?

[serene crystal]

I personally play in CN

[glacial patio]

okay tysm!!

also is all the manga can be found in the game?

[serene crystal]

Probably around 2 years before she doesn't get bosses anymore, check crystal sources in the pins first.

[serene crystal]

They should all be pinned in #📚honkai-lore

[glacial patio]

no i mean like do i have to leave the game to read them or is there some way to read them in game? and do they affect the story alot?

[broken ocean]

Thanks, I'll do that

[cedar gale]

What are good teams for her bith cheap and expensive options i want to know where I'm standing

[serene crystal]

Best is generally FWS + some symbiosis valk often FDD/HLE.
Outside of that you heavily prefer double symbiosis over anything else as long as you have that you should be fine for RL.
If you don't have two symbiosis valks you can use RoO as placeholder but that is a noticeable downgrade.

[cedar gale]

In beginer language please

[ancient needle]

Simplified Chinese if you know it xdd

Btw, Part 1 CGs won't be in Chinese even if you choose Chinese in the settings, you need to replace them manually

#🔌technical-help pins have info about that

[serene crystal]

Abbreviations:
FWS Fiery Wishing Star,
FDD: Fate Defying Dragon
HLE Hi Love Elf
RL: Redlotus (abyss Tier)
RoO Rite of Oblivion

Symbiosis is a tag which astral ring valks can have. #👶beginner-help message last link here for more info about what that means.

[ancient needle]

Yes, you need to read them outside of the game
The early story might be a bit confusing without these mangas, but after that there won't be any issues

[ancient needle]

In the future you can refer to this for acronyms:

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[lyric anvil]

I probably should read the VNs and manges eventually

[cedar gale]

I don't have FWS FDD or HLE

[serene crystal]

Do you have anyone else with Symbiosis?

You can filter by tag in the valk menu

[cedar gale]

I'll check in a second just gotta finish up a trial rn

[serene crystal]

If not you probably need to run VBm and TA which is the team you run if you don't have any applicable gacha valks

[ancient needle]

Well, you'll have to run XDC + HoHE + an RoO valk

[serene crystal]

Good we can cut TA out then and do XDC,HoHe, VBm or other RoO character

[ancient needle]

Do you have Vita or HoFi with dkey?

[cedar gale]

No sadly I'm a newish player stiped playing for a but after someone broke my laptop's screen then saw the new charecter then tarred down my laptop fixed what was broken and used a HDMI to use the TV as a replacement screen all soni could pull for Raiden

[ancient needle]

Then VBm it is as the third slot
If you haven't alr you can get her from the first chapter of Part 2 story with her signature weapon

• her ranks are farmable in the Asterite shop

[cedar gale]

I alr have her

[wicked cargo]

Try to get sss every week you get like 25 pieces

[cedar gale]

I meed to get 8400 crystals to get the weapon guaranteed

[wispy aurora]

is S2 FDD really worth it over Vita S2?

[lyric anvil]

[ancient needle]

Vita is used only in WS and RoO nowadays for the most part (S2 doesn't do anything for RoO), while FDD is used in RoO, LoA and GoI

[wispy aurora]

Understandable

Welp no luck

[lyric anvil]

It happens

[wispy aurora]

Watched a friend get a double earlier as well

[lyric anvil]

Attempted to get S2 paws but I had no luck either

[wispy aurora]

I was lucky for mine when she came out did 1 Ten pull after getting her and there she was

[lyric anvil]

Nice

Been unlucky for all of the carnival runs that I've been around for

JDS: no luck but now I have her from Spending
Vita: no luck
S2 PAWS: no luck

[wispy aurora]

Got

Thelma on first 10 from that one
Vita S2 = Lost
FDD S2 = Lost

[serene crystal]

I have also never gotten anyone from them. It is normal 20 pulls are not that much.

[wispy aurora]

1 friend got a double Vita (he was new)
other got 1 vita same one here got the double FDD

[lyric anvil]

My double FDD was on her release patch

[wispy aurora]

I've neve had a double is a HI3 or HSR but had a double in WuWa (Shorekeeper) and ZZZ (Banner and Lost) can't remember who it was for ZZZ

[lyric anvil]

FDD is my first double

[wispy aurora]

Huge for you I bet

[lyric anvil]

S2 is good for support

And her dps

[glacial patio]

i got the lunar mei, im trying to get her weapon , who do i go for on supply and carnival?? its helia, kiana, and lorelei

[serene crystal]

Please use battlesuit names, there is no character called Lorelei.
For free pulls see the pinned guide. Else be very careful with pulling on carnival as the pity doesn't carry over.

[glacial patio]

i thought that was her name my bad

shes from part 2 with the hammer

CORALIE

im so sorry!! i thought it was lorelie

[serene crystal]

Good, Coralie.
The general recommendation is FDD or FWS here.

[glacial patio]

👍

[hollow badger]

guys when we will get the S-rank Battlesuit Box for this version?

[bitter forum]

can i rewatch elysiam realm cutscenes i skip?

[low ridge]

Does Kiana come out next week in the carnival banner

[ancient needle]

Yes

[ancient needle]

No, only lobby dialogues

Well, if you meant specifically CGs you might end up skipping over some if you use the skip button

Which means that they might remain permanently locked in the CG collection menu

[bitter forum]

oh what 💀

are there any really early? cause i don't want to get spoiled but i need to do weakly runs

[ancient needle]

Not sure here

There is some non-replayable dialogue there though

iirc it's not a major spoiler, but you can ask in #📚honkai-lore to be certain

[low ridge]

Are the carnivals deals good

Like the b chip bundles

[glacial patio]

anybody have channel recommendations or know where i can find summaries or analysis of the honkai story?

[oak estuary]

U can ask #📚honkai-lore they probably know smt

[glacial patio]

oh okay ty

[onyx flint]

hi

who should i upgrade ??

[glacial patio]

this game doesnt have an artifact system correct?

[shell basin]

You can upgrade Herrscher of the void for story clearing

None of those characters are meta useful but she’s fine for the first few chapters before they lock you into trial battlesuits

[glossy laurel]

where is kiana and vita? will they be available after the first two?

[shell basin]

Eventually you’ll want to pull Mei (Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent) and build Valkyrie Blastmetal (part 2 story) and terminal aide (asterite shop) to support her

[shell basin]

Correct. You pull a characters, you pull their weapon, you craft any stigmas you didn’t get, and you’re done

[shell basin]

~5 days. Carnival is a rotating banner. First paws and FdD, then Badum and vita, then paws and FdD again, then vita and Badum again

[glossy laurel]

OHHHH

i kinda need badum for xdc

but im still grinding for the weapon 💔

[shell basin]

Are you new?

[cinder peak]

what's the tldr for songque elf usage?

[glossy laurel]

yes, i started in hle's banner

[shell basin]

What is your crystal count and weapon pity like?

[glossy laurel]

nothing much...

[shell basin]

Hmm. If you were willing to lock in your could try temporarily putting off Mei weapon while saving up pulls for carnival. You’ll get about 30 pulls from abyss / Elysian realm / dailies, so you’d only need to get 40 more from part 1, and then you could guarentee Badum from banner before she left

But if you don’t think you have the time for that you’ll probably have to skip Badum unless you get her in free pulls