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opal lily
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I see I see! That makes sense, cause so far my account only has hi love elf+wep, sparkle, rita+wep, lantern and a bunch of the older valks such as hohe and aponia so I literally have no idea what team I could form with any of this, but I’ll just keep the account updated as the patches go on and get the valks that come out

For example though I really liked Planterfarer Vita but idk if she’s meta still, but I’ve seen some teams with her here and there so then idk if I should go for her and form those said teams in the future

But yeah the difference seems very minimal in comparison to the overall value, so far I love the combat, the graphics at the beginning are quite outdated but it’s expected for a game of its length, I haven’t gotten into part 2 yet because I want to finish the story In order, but I don’t regret spending money on the game, rita feels extremely smooth too I love her

calm kernel
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if you are actually spending decent amounts its not bad idea to backpull some of the recent valks to more quickly build your roster venyasit

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certainly better idea than ranking up any valk

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is it worth to buy the level rush bundle for 880 credits and get Herrscher of HUman Ego

quick birch
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Level rush is a pretty good deal, other than that monthly also has some pretty decent value, though spend wisely

quick birch
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also is it possible to get jade knight f2p from the training notes thing

quick birch
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Yeah

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880 creidts but the cheapest way is 15$ pack šŸ’”

calm kernel
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level rush is by far the best deal you will find in this game

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if you are spending money at all that is the first thing you should buy

jaunty beacon
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actually i could get it for 8 dollars

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oll play more to see if i wanna spend money

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be sure to check out the whaling guide in the pins if any of you haven't already

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but yeah i encourage you to explore the game and understand what at least abyss is like before actually spending

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it's an old game so there's alot of systems and shops and currencies to figure out. You wouldn't want to buy something preemptively only to realize you could get something in a different way or if it's not doing what you originally thought it would do

cedar gale
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What items shuld i equip on HoHE in elysian realm

kind hull
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ik its probably been asked a million times, but why does it say 'please complete flame-chaser's trial first' whenever i try and play shallow sequence?

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by that do i have to beat all of ch1?

calm kernel
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because you havent done flame-chasers trial yet BronieStare

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idr how deep exactly you need to play the story to unlock shallow/deep sequences

kind hull
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why would it unlock before doing FC trial but then just tell me to do FC trial smh

calm kernel
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who knows

low kestrel
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it's possible to me get more?

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(redlotus)

shadow tendon
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is the income diff between nirv and rl like 2 pulls per patch 😭 its like 20 diff each round right, am i estimating that correctly?

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ancient needle
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Unlikely if you're a newer player ofc

shadow tendon
ancient needle
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Which is +120 crystals per cycle

amber finch
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unless ur seaSakuraSad

ancient needle
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Myriad T100 is +70 iirc

amber finch
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what in the teripoint

shadow tendon
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whats the difficulty diff between servers anyways

ancient needle
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Obviously you need to put in the effort for that, so it depends on whether you enjoy the process of malding

amber finch
ancient needle
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The difference in difficulty is non-negligible

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Hard to quantify obviously TeriDerp

amber finch
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its mainly the players diff

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i’d be t50+ ma consistently if i was in euSakuraSad

ancient needle
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There also is the fact that it's easier to get into Myriad in NA (less players), but it's harder to retain Nirv there (the players are sweatier on average)

shadow tendon
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t100 seems… doable maybe with s0 aop SS for me?

amber finch
ancient needle
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Top 100 of the entire server

amber finch
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no matter the abyss rank, so technically if the server is dead enough, an ago1 player can t1 myriad

lone crater
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845 on sea can't top 10 but is top 5 in eu, although the 845 in sea could be lot higher in eu cuz of d diff

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amber finch
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shadow tendon
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ugh feel like i need a bis for a shot to retain tho

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skill diff to hard too overcome otherwise

ancient needle
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No BiS DPS is cooked no matter the skill in 99% of cases
No BiS supp depends on the cycle

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# cedar gale What items shuld i equip on HoHE in elysian realm

I'm not sure what you mean by item.

If you mean stigmatas then it will depend on what you have. You don't need high gear to get max crystals from weekly ER so I don't recommend going out of your way to get better stuff.

If you mean active/passive ER equips and signet choices, the pinned guide should cover that.

lone crater
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amber finch
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i hate paws and fdd weathers so much

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my bad financial decisions are biting me in the ass

ancient needle
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What's wrong with PAWS

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Ah

shadow tendon
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im still in myriad (for now) but im not gonna be able to retain nirv in my bracket ElysiaSob

amber finch
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i never get to use thelema support who trades damage for speed on qua cycles because i'm always behind on damage for example

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ancient needle
amber finch
ancient needle
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You're (surprisingly) smart, you can do it

amber finch
lone crater
amber finch
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actually is the na nirv demote thing bc of the old fossils hard camping there

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it's just there can be arguable fringe cases

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ancient needle
lone crater
shadow tendon
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i wonder how many brackets there are for NA nirv

amber finch
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myriad monopoly is unreal

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shadow tendon
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anyone have an estimate?

ancient needle
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calm kernel
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horbs syncs are bonkers for ws team

amber finch
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yeah horb syns are insane

ancient needle
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When does HoRb become better than other options

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Syn2? Syn3?

shadow tendon
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inb4 theres like 10, maybe 11 LanternHeavyThoughts

lone crater
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indeed but no +3 dk is nice brick LanternHeavyThoughts

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keep in mind bracket size can also vary so counting bracklets alone may not be accurate

amber finch
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there can be 18 player brackets rather than 20 and it results in 9th place being the lowest retain (+0) slot

calm kernel
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shadow tendon
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ah ur right theres 19 in my bracket

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nvm

amber finch
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wait what’s cradle against the sea’s murmurs

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is it horb’s finisher

lucid maple
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how many crystals i need to get a unit and their stuff with this much built and uhm lets just say a skin?

ancient needle
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In 18-peep brackets T10 is demot

shadow tendon
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haha LanternHeavyThoughts guess ill stay in rl

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# lone crater score itself yeah, but take in context of higher disturbance and the ranks/syns ...

idk if sweaty is the sole word i would use for this btw. Or at least I'm reading it as mald. If you meant mald and/or wallet then i would more agree.

I think there can be weird cases where at a certain dist, some kind of damage can fit Ideally. However at lower or higher dist, trying to optimize for it can lead to a rabbit hole of issues like CD issues or needing to change the strat entirely.

Obviously it's easier to make a lower dist fight actually finish when keeping the same strat for only a few point loss though.

amber finch
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if you meant a pyramid skin then usually they are 9.6k

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lucid maple
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82% chance that you'll spend exactly that

amber finch
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yeah the rates are quite low so you’re just expected to go hard pity on the skin

amber finch
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and then its another 30% with syn3SakuraWTF

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uh i think it's only for specific attacks

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but yeah there's pretty chunk horb personal damage there

amber finch
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includes atks triggered by domain reso mark and reso atk

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yeah

amber finch
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this is what it said, is this just the normal rot

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finisher + resonance (two separate big things)

amber finch
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ah

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still a really good chunk tho

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wait i have a question now

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ā€œenemies take x% more tdm from chars on fieldā€

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is that tdt or tdm

lucid maple
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13160 + 12880 = 26040 yikes can i get enough before next patch? lol plus the skin

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tdt

amber finch
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or are they kinda the same

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taken is debuff

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calm kernel
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oh wait i thought you included the price of the skin

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sorry my bad my bad kek

lucid maple
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not x% ofc i just used x as a placeholder

calm kernel
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where tdm

amber finch
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so its like 90% tdt with sync3 horb?

amber finch
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calm kernel
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thats just td venyasit

amber finch
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we usually say tdm or total damage multiplier for the buff, player side of things

calm kernel
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well tdm is short for total damage multiplier anyway but basically equivalent with "total damage done"

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tdt is total damage taken, as in the enemy is taking more total damage

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it wouldn't make sense for us to benefit a debuff on our side (although this does exist with newton b)

lone crater
calm kernel
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its important that the horb dkey is tdt because songque is tdm venyasit

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so you get nice big fat resonance damage

amber finch
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amber finch
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anyways horb syncs are bonkers smh

lone crater
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skill, sweat, mald, money whatever you want to say really lol

calm kernel
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disturbance is pretty much correlated to player spending rather than malding venyasit

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i know what you mean overall but i'm just speaking up because someone doesn't seem too familiar so i want to lay down more foundational knowledge. That's all

amber finch
calm kernel
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..yes

amber finch
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oh also i need a fact check

lucid maple
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uhm this is the only quest i can see for part 2 how close am i to finishing the story that has been release so far?

amber finch
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is cny a bigger thing than cn anni

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or are they same same

calm kernel
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!faq cof

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How to find "Covenant of Finality"

Sorry for the confusion, Captain! AichanCry

Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.

Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Click the image to Play!

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follow these instructions to go to the beginning of p2

calm kernel
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lone crater
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i was just saying like in the sense that if you loosely treat d as a bottleneck for scores depending on their setup, and the fact that if there's large d gap, yet score to achieve something has quite large gap in the other direction, then that does say something about server being ded or alive at least

calm kernel
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yeah in the context of current dist measurements across servers today i do agree

amber finch
calm kernel
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"cn anni" is that what we have the "summer patch" or wadever

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along with other signs but anyway this is starting to get to doomposting territory lol

amber finch
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anyways @lucid maple there should be no problemos with you saving up like 40k with your goal

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(its less than 40k but i rounded it up)

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and who knows, maybe you'll get lucky with your pulls

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dont bank on that tho

lucid maple
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im not lucky in any hoyo gacha lol

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we don't expect you to be tbh

amber finch
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yeah, this is just copege

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recommendations are more centralized on consistency and worst case scenarios

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there's no 50/50 in this game

lucid maple
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so variance on getting slightly lucky and early to hard pity is not that far

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and you can plan around things more easily

amber finch
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its always better to just save and assume for the worst instead of coping on the fact that you just might get the valk in the first ten

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as long as you play regularly and get crystals from all sources, at worst you'll afford a new release every other patch, but in practice with average luck it'll be only a few patches once in a while that you'll need to skip

amber finch
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if you got lucky then yay you got extra funds for the next pulling session

lucid maple
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ooh last question how do i change the lobby background?

calm kernel
lucid maple
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or the other bg are like special stuff that i missed

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basically stay above weapon pity when pulling valk, so if you do get valk early, you can guarantee weap

amber finch
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and they cost crystals

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the worst thing you can do is prob to push for a valk but wind up without her weapon

lucid maple
amber finch
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if its p2 then you can just go to p2 story and pick a place you like for the bg

lone crater
amber finch
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in all seriousness please don't encourage doomposting here lol

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but yeah when you put it at that sort of extreme across a whole playerbase, again i don't disagree lol

amber finch
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grr i want that bita skin

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so egg pen silks tho

calm kernel
lone crater
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it's just when it comes to dist and your own personal performance, the only influence the server has at that point is more indirect in what that dist value ends up. But once the dist is established, assuming you're playing the best you can, the actual difficulty becomes more relative.

calm kernel
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the whole point of the disturbance system is to match the power level of players to keep scores somewhat standardized

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so if ppl whale more on some server then the disturbance will go up instead of their scores going up

lone crater
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yeah, so people with small d in general have higher score no

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there's a limit to how much we can say about all this too because we don't truly know what affects dist. Or at least people claim there are discrepancies with the concept on paper to what's observed in reality

lone crater
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is that not a different point on something else

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calm kernel
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score discrepancies in myriad come more down to server population

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it's a bit dangerous to generalize too much here in this channel really and the person who was asking initially doesn't seem to be around anymore

calm kernel
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"top 100" is naturally more competitive if there are 10k players vs. 1k players

lone crater
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yeah

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i mean i did mention that no, with server being more alive or ded

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i feel some observed discrepancies can be due to lack of sample sizes too. Or at least we already established earlier we cannot determine the full amount of brackets

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tbh i'm surprised people haven't found some api to pull abyss info out of

calm kernel
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yeah but it doesnt really tell you anything about the average players sweat level

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other games tend to have similar tools to track things during ranking events

lone crater
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it was me who brought in sweat level as a contributing factor

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but yeah i don't mean to make it a prime focus

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i'm just trying to say there's multiple factors

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sweat/mald/try hard/effort whatever you want to call it

calm kernel
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i mean it has been observed through MA rankings that SEA has about same number of players as NA and EU combined

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or at least that was the case year ago or so

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so you could roughly argue that the #100 player on SEA should match the #50 players on EU/NA

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MA is ultimately separately from abyss if i have to be strict about this. The one friend i mentioned earlier is pretty guilty of forgetting about abyss and focusing more on MA but that's more exceptional lol

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but ofc when we're talking about a whole playerbase with no data to pull from, we can only approximate closely

calm kernel
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well as long as they remember to press lite button they will count for MA

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ofc people who leave it at 0/17 or are under lvl 81 wont be counted

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crap i need to remind that said friend lmao

calm kernel
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but i'd think most people would at least kill the boss even if they dont care about how fast they do it

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yeah

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and well, the % of people who don't should be about the same too

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at least i dont see any reason why it wouldnt be

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once in a blue moon i hear about people losing lite or locking the wrong valks because earlier difficulties don't give you a finalize choice at the end

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well the idea is even if there's differences, it should be negligible with enough data

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Who is worth picking from the 2024 s rank selector and the 2025 s rank selector?

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calm kernel
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they are all in war treasury so it doesnt really matter

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none of these are useful meta wise

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uh is silverwing there yet?

calm kernel
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has been for a while

craggy flax
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oh i'm blind

calm kernel
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well i say for a while.. was added last patch lol

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i guess 10 weeks is a while

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but anyway if you don't care about keeping it for collection purposes, note that at the very end you can get non valk stuff too

don't bother with AL x 200 (pretty sure picking an actual valk is better value but i can't check this atm)

if you're meta or just getting max stats for sentimental value then you may consider the reroll affix selector

calm kernel
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but i would assume there isnt any significant difference BronieStare

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the more grim part was that usually towards the end of the patch the number of participants was less than half compared to 1st week

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and that was when we had 6 week patches venyasit

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we're back on the line to doomposting lol

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calm kernel
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not really, the counts always recovered back on new patch

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yeah as long as you make that clear lol

calm kernel
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just interesting how many players just login for new patch, play for a week or two and then quit until next patch

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tbh i'm surprised to hear that because we always get a surge of players doing events last minute too

mortal carbon
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the early birds and the forgot to do their homework'ers LanternHeavyThoughts

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so i expect the inactive zone to be more in the late middle

calm kernel
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yea i mean you wont really see any change in myriad or t100 MA since those players usually stay active every day (need moar xtals..)

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but the unknown masses definitely go through a cycle venyasit

hardy lintel
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hi guys, how do i do combo attacks?

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first of all make sure the valkyrie you're using actually has a combo attack

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some valkyries have charged attacks instead which are similar but functionally different

hardy lintel
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ok that my first problem, i got no idea who do

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to find out, check the valkyrie menu > go to their skills > and it should be in the upper right section usually

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you may see something like special attack: combo or something

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some examples of valks with combo attack may include white comet (kiana) or reverist calico (pardofelis)

hardy lintel
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Kiana?! that the least one I expected

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the way to execute the combo attack can depend on the valkyrie but usually it involves holding attack. Possibly after some kind of condition

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so for pardo's case she wants a full yellow or purple meter to cast her's

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white comet needs to do it in the middle of her attack sequence at a specific point

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hardy lintel
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thx šŸ™šŸ˜Š

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you can also check out valkyrie tutorials via attack > events tab > tactics class

hardy lintel
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i went but didn't saw any SenadinaStare

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some valkyries may even have other attacks or methods that are considered combo attacks even if they don't involve holding attack (e.g. sparkle's enhanced weapon attack)

lyric anvil
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Think Thelema's can be activated also through WA too

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if you have any specific questions about a particular valk feel free to ask too

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hardy lintel
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thanks šŸ™

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i gtg now, have a nice day

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be sure to check pins here for all sorts of other basic info too

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# lyric anvil I could video

you mean on some mission checking for combo attack and using weapon to qualify for it? sure i guess? otherwise i'm more looking for skill descriptions

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so a combo attack is a very specific property of attacks

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Ah-

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there actually specific stigmatas or missions or other effects, etc that checks if the attack is a combo attack or not

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what you're talking about is completely unrelated

lyric anvil
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Interesting

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but she can also fill it in other ways not related to a combo attack

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I see

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lyric anvil
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Ah

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for thelema specifically filling the bar is merely called gaining banquets. In more generic terms the game refers to these as KE or kinetic energy sometimes. Informally speaking i just call it meter for the special attack.

lyric anvil
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I see

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any further questions about this? I can definitely digress more about thelema if desired

lyric anvil
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Nope

opal lily
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so uhm i got mega lucky i used some of my free pulls on the returnee banner for songque

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i got her weapon and the character

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what is she good for

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do you understand the astral ring system?

opal lily
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more or less

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( barely )

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so you understand what to expect from her ring type and tags?

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for a newer account, the biggest thing to appreciate of any new unit to your roster is what sort of roles they can cover that you don't have yet

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if you feel shaky about this we can cover it anyway

opal lily
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do you mean like the astral tag the purple thingy?

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tags are the smaller icons to the right of it

opal lily
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ring types are the big purple button itself

opal lily
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ohhhhi see them

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ok well

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Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. The leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle. When the Astral Ring system is activated, the team will benefit from effects specific to Astral Ring. The team will also gain access to Stellar Outburst, which is a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

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read this first

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Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

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then read the bottom link

opal lily
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oki oki

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loosely speaking

ring types are mainly for what kind of dps uses your valk can do

tags are mainly for what kind of support uses your valk can provide to other leaders/teams

opal lily
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alrighties, thanks, makes sense

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if there's anything specific in those descriptions that you don't understand feel free to ask, but otherwise i'll wait until you're ready to talk more in detail

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although i'll prob point you to her tutorial ingame first so you have an idea of what her attacks are like and how they may be strummed together

opal lily
kind cliff
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Was ER recently changed or something? Why am I struggling to clear the 11th round for double rewards

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Using 4/4 hle and following the astral ring guide

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it changes every few weeks to suit the latest valk

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i haven't checked the details to see how it has changed to not benefit hle as much but you can look around stage effects and load effects to see if you need to adjust anything

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i don't expect the changes to be drastic enough to prevent you from getting max weekly crystals and HLE is still relatively recent

sweet flax
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what are you taking

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Weapon buff still applies to bow, so that’s not a problem

echo quiver
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aigh ty

outer cipher
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Hello I just started do you guys recommend the new character

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Cause theres rita,senadina and songque are they worth pulling?

shadow gyro
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dont use crystals on the other supplies

outer cipher
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Ohhh hmmm

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Because I did just use only 20 pulls for the guaranteed 5 star but thats if

shadow gyro
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on what supply

outer cipher
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On im assuming the standard banner

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Uhhhh let me see

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Its called dorm supply

shadow gyro
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you use its tickets or crystals?

outer cipher
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Crystals

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U can use tickets?

shadow gyro
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thats a bad idea

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yes it has its own tickets

outer cipher
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

shadow gyro
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dorm is permanent and theres nothing useful in there

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Ohhhh oops sorry

shadow gyro
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honestly if u wanna recover from your first mistake its not a bad idea to make a new account because future you may want those 20 pulls
but if you want to continue anyways thats up to you
just dont act before asking
and only use crystals on battlesuit supply (new units only) or equipment supply if you get the unit

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the rest either have their own tickets or arent worth going for

outer cipher
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Ohhhhh okidoki who would be smart to get rita or senadina

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Are they supports or somethin?

shell basin
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Rita is better

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But Sena can support Rita

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So if you’re pulling Rita rerolling for Sena makes your Rita better

shadow gyro
shell basin
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Sena is one of the best Rita supports (but Rita is pretty much the only modern battlesuit that uses her)

outer cipher
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Ohhh hmm

shadow gyro
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and as i said shes not worth getting unless you want to reroll

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Okidoki

shadow gyro
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reroll gives you a better start at the cost of your time

outer cipher
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So I should prioritize rita first

shell basin
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If you’re not rerolling just don’t prioritize Sena at all

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She’s worth getting if you could guarentee it at 5 pulls (hence rerolling) but not worth spending crystals chasing

outer cipher
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How does rerolling work tho

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Just grind and summon and repeat

shadow gyro
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you do the story until you can leave the story and pull

shell basin
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Rerolling is you make a new account crush through early game, summon, make new account if you don’t get it. It’s enormously crystal efficient but super annoying

outer cipher
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Ohhhh

shell basin
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I didn’t reroll, I was fine, but also I kind of regret not rerolling. Your mileage may vary

outer cipher
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Bet thanks you sorry I tried checking a tier kist or something but its super hard finding one

shadow gyro
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rerolling isnt necessary but if you do it you get more value

shell basin
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That’s because they’re not viable

shadow gyro
#

tier lists dont work in this game

shell basin
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Best battlesuit basically just means newest because of how competitive works in this game

sweet flax
shell basin
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And thus it constantly changes

outer cipher
#

Ohhhh really(

shadow gyro
shell basin
#

Yeah. Old battlesuits aren’t bad, they can stick around as useful for years

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But the single best battlesuit to pull is almost always the newest one

outer cipher
#

Ohhhhh ic

sweet flax
#

There is no one best battlesuit, and depending on your account even another unit can do just as well as the supposed BiS option

shell basin
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^

sweet flax
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Also hi stea hi qt

shadow gyro
#

hii

shell basin
#

Hello asu!

outer cipher
#

Ohhh bet thanks you so much

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Can't wait to try the game hopefully the story is good

shell basin
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For instance on some boss the best support might be FDD, because she has really strong buffs, but if your dps is strong enough you might run Badum instead because she’s faster

outer cipher
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I love good stories

shadow gyro
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yess hope u enjoy

shell basin
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I got into Hi3 through story

sweet flax
sweet flax
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Ah fair

outer cipher
#

Bet thanks you guys

shell basin
warm parrot
#

whats the best things to get for low spender?

amber finch
warm parrot
#

also does anyone want to gie me their invite code

amber finch
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also there is a pins on how to cost effectively whale btw

amber finch
warm parrot
#

yes

amber finch
#

@lone kindle

sweet flax
#

wow not even pinging me

amber finch
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@quick birch fight to the death go

sweet flax
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crazy

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fk u ches

amber finch
lyric anvil
#

3 way fight

amber finch
#

mf you were already lurking

amber finch
warm parrot
#

šŸ’€

amber finch
#

imma send mine for no reason

sweet flax
#

207682567CF

lyric anvil
sweet flax
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yoink

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:D

warm parrot
amber finch
#

17031105VD

amber finch
#

ok ram heres my defense

warm parrot
#

what do u guys get

amber finch
#

i literally can not find your name

warm parrot
#

i think i just get shit rewards lol, but 60 free crystals

amber finch
amber finch
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thats why players usually really want to give their invite code for someone to type in kek

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its 1.5k xtals total a patch

lyric anvil
#

I'm full LiliSip

amber finch
#

no newbies in sea too

lone kindle
#

Xx

amber finch
warm parrot
#

technically u can make dummy accnts and get it right

amber finch
#

actually next patch should have that invite emblem right

abstract sequoia
#

yeah

amber finch
lone kindle
lyric anvil
warm parrot
abstract sequoia
amber finch
#

sea is just so dried up newbie wise

lone kindle
lyric anvil
#

Like I said I got my full 1500 crystals Dorysia

amber finch
#

better off doing stuffs irl for money then whale here instead of hunting for like 50 years for 1.5k (maybe)

lone kindle
amber finch
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it was consistent back in the 6.x to 7.x patches for me

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the amount of newbies back then was soooo good

warm parrot
#

im downloaded cuz i saw the new ||mei||

amber finch
#

oop spoiler that

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its not officially announced for us yet

warm parrot
#

when does she comešŸ’€

amber finch
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march 5

warm parrot
#

😈 save mode

warm parrot
#

thats long

amber finch
amber finch
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its good for players bc more time to save but my god they have almost no contents to make up for it

warm parrot
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well good ig, i dont have to no life stuff

abstract sequoia
#

every new event gets archived through voyage log

amber finch
# warm parrot šŸ’€

yeah i forgot to take in account you're a new player, you wont have a lack of content to do kek

abstract sequoia
#

so you can still play every past event from the point they implemented that feature

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also lots of story to go through

lyric anvil
#

I have very little Dorysia

sweet flax
lyric anvil
lucid jolt
#

Hi, is there a way to replay the part 2 of the story without starting a new account?

abstract sequoia
#

unfortunately no, the only replayable content are boss fights

shadow gyro
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but u can watch it on youtube

abstract sequoia
shadow gyro
#

lemme check

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yeah nevermind then...

lucid jolt
# shadow gyro aside from chapter 4 no

Thanks for the reply. Just as I feared. I skipped the first chapters of Part II for the beginner missions. I don't understand why I had to start them if there is the part 1

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Honestly I'm very annoyed, watching it again on YouTube is not the same thing

abstract sequoia
#

because hoyo wants to push you into their more recent content. part 1 has been finished years ago

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that being said, i agree with you. it's annoying af

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when a new part 2 chapter releases, they also push you into it sometimes. be aware that you can just force close and no cutscenes are skipped

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after that, select the chapter you actually wanted to play through the story chapter selection

lucid jolt
#

I started playing HI3 for the story, and I took it slowly, also because I have health problems and don't always have time. Today the beginner missions expire, and I still have to progress further in the story, Part 2.

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They're good at writing, but I'm really annoyed that I missed the start of Part 2 just because of a beginner mission. I could not have skipped it, but I was still on Part 1.

abstract sequoia
# lucid jolt I started playing HI3 for the story, and I took it slowly, also because I have h...

Yeah, I'm personally also a guy who likes to take on story slow and on my own pace. Instead the Growth Regimen forces you to do an early game sprint. This does slow down later thankfully. Any time-limited rewards in newly released story chapters are usually just resources. Events do have some time-limited rewards that are important, but their stories are disconnected enough from the main story, so they can be enjoyed without knowing the full context of something like recent Part 2 chapters.

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this being said, if you don't care about time-limited rewards at all, events are always replayable through Voyage Log even long after their initial release.

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APHO is also entirely disconnected and meant to be a flashforward many years into the future.

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I honestly wish beginner events wouldn't expire, but unfortunately that's just the way things are. If you want some comfort, I never finished the full growth regimen either on my main account but that didn't stop me from making it very meta oriented

lucid jolt
# abstract sequoia I honestly wish beginner events wouldn't expire, but unfortunately that's just t...

I'm almost on the verge of dropping HI3. Elysian Realm, APHO and forcing you to play part 2, they don't take into account the new player's intention to start the storyline normally, from part 1. And the events... damn, there were a lot of events in the last version. I didn't know Kiana's mother yet, and she just popped up so randomly, that I decided to skip it without looking. And so I did with part 2 of the story, and today that it expires I still have to do another chapter like this.

abstract sequoia
#

to comfort you, that event takes place in an alternative universe anyway

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kinda like a "best ending for everyone" universe so to say

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so it's also disconnected from main universe story

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same for all of the "Hi Love Elf" Elysia events

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listen, honestly if it's too much and you don't even want to play fully competitive, you can play at your own pace regardless

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sure you're missing out on some rewards, but so what?

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at least you keep your sanity and enjoyment for the game

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and honestly that's what matters most

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as for questions for how much an event would spoiler you, #šŸ“šhonkai-lore is very open to answer you

abstract sequoia
#

just say how far you've played so far and you wont be spoiled

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they also have proper reading orders pinned there

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ingame can be confusing without context, especially because some of the early chapters also had manga and even VNs

lucid jolt
lucid jolt
abstract sequoia
#

basically every kind of media hi3 ever had

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you won't have to read all of it to understand the big picture, but ask for details in #šŸ“šhonkai-lore they're way more versed with that

lucid jolt
abstract sequoia
#

I can only agree with you

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best we can do for now is help beginners as already experienced players

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especially st. freya professors are there to achieve just that, where the ingame experience alone sadly fails

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nearly a decade of content and confusion is bound to happen, even to very patient people

dire portal
#

Should part 2 become a new different standalone game?

shadow gyro
hardy lintel
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how does it work?

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if i tune it can i still level up and use the weapon?

shell basin
#

it just means you cant destroy them later to upgrade another weapon

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only relevant if you have multiple copies and tune the wrong one

shadow gyro
#

also tuning is needed if you need to priarm

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for pledge you don't need to but if you even get a stellar key and you wanna use it on its character then you would wanna tune so you have access to priarm

hardy lintel
#

so with stellar keys it better to tune them?

shadow gyro
hardy lintel
#

god it ^^

slim blaze
#

Finally

lone kindle
#

If you already have one tuned you cant tune another one of the same weapon

kind cliff
glossy laurel
#

who should i choose?

frosty island
#

chrono navi has gathering abilities and buffs burn and fire dmg , cosmic expression buffs bleed and physical damage and sugary starburst provides off field dmg and ice dmg buffs

quick birch
# glossy laurel who should i choose?

get the middle one, while all of them are farmable she still somewhat can be a decent off field elemental support, though tbh you won't really use all of them a lot

karmic jungle
#

is this game worth playing

frosty island
#

it is

glossy laurel
#

okay maybe i'll get the middle one for hle, thank u guys ElysiaLuv

frosty island
#

slow start story good continuation and improvements as it goes and if u like fast paced combat you'll enjoy it

quick birch
# karmic jungle is this game worth playing

well we're obviously a bit biased here since we play the game and engage with it, though we can help you decide weather you will actually enjoy the game or not so feel free to ask any questions you have about the game

karmic jungle
#

hmm i see

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how do i get the colourful names like you guys

frosty island
#

being active i guess, i also got the same rank as u

quick birch
karmic jungle
#

should I restart and reroll or use an old account

frosty island
karmic jungle
#

uhh i’d have to check

quick birch
frosty island
#

tbh if you are smth bellow 60 it would be alright to start a new account if u wanted to, tho i'd advise not as u can also get the returnee rewards and missions which last for like a month? not sure

quick birch
# karmic jungle should I restart and reroll or use an old account

generally we'd recommend using a new account, given that you probably did not played the game a lot from what i could gather your old account also is very likely to not have something valuable.
In regards to rerolling, it's a really exhausting process and not necessary by all mean, on a new account you will be able to get the current new valk + weapon

quick birch
quick birch
quick birch
#

!faq returnee

small willowBOT
# quick birch !faq returnee
Returnee Accounts

Ai-chan is here, Captain! AichanLol

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for the Returnee Accounts pin!

Please send us an imgur album in #šŸ‘¶beginner-help of your significant S-Rank Valkyries and the first page of your Weapons and Stigmata. We will help you decide whether it is worth keeping.

If your account:

  • Is below level 80
  • Lacks established teams
  • Isn't dear to you/doesn't have limited collectables that you care about.

Then:

karmic jungle
#

oh so i have to be level 80?

quick birch
quick birch
#

also do you know how p2 team building works ?

karmic jungle
#

damn the game is beefy, so many gigs

glossy laurel
quick birch
karmic jungle
#

i will have a lot of questions

quick birch
#

the whole astral ring system is the fundamental system of current team building

quick birch
karmic jungle
#

i have to make an imgur account right

glossy laurel
#

i only just need miss espionage's weapon then im set

quick birch
karmic jungle
#

golden?

quick birch
jaunty beacon
#

Senadina is a limited character right

#

Orange yoyo girl

quick birch
# karmic jungle golden?

you probably won't have that yet but weapons that are upgraded to level 65 will apear with a golden background in your inventory here you can see the difference

frosty island
#

while the stigmata sets will allow ur team to function, the weapon is what'll allow your characters to actually perform well

quick birch
# jaunty beacon Senadina is a limited character right

yeah, though at this point she probably won't rerun any time soon. the next point where you could probably get her would be reserve work since she already was in the normal BP and is quite old by now, though we don't really know how hoyo will handel p2 stuff in reserve work yet

jaunty beacon
#

Is Herscher of human ego good

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Like by good I mean like somewhat relevant

quick birch
frosty island
#

i did grind her to SS afterall

lone crater
frosty island
#

she's also very fun to play in Elysian realm

frosty island
quick birch
# jaunty beacon Like by good I mean like somewhat relevant

somewhat relevant yes with her divine key, but note that she's rather niche

her DPS weathers run quite rarely and some may also be taken by HLE at this point. She also heavily relies on thelema for some weathers since she can provide decent damage outside of SO, ari regen via evade malding and freeze (though HLE can also cover the freeze thing now). Also she's quite an old and popular character and there were many ways to obtain her ranks by now so competing with an S Hohe against SS1->ss2 can be quite difficult.

regarding her support value she's sadly really niche there, as a LoA/WoD support she's only really used on a boss with a weakpoint to hit (tank) other than that her supportive buffs are a bit lackluster compared to other options. In GoI she's decent but sadly does not have a dedicated weather to really shine as a support

#

she's still decent if you have no other supports but backpulling her divine key once it reruns again is not really something i would recommend from a meta stand point

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if you're more casual we can help you with the decision but in the end it's up to you

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we also have no info on when said weapon will rerun

frosty island
#

oh btw now thinking about reruns, a lil while back there was a HoF divine key weapon reroll and that got me curious if she was actually worth getting or kinda meh

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didn't even check what teams she would sync with

karmic jungle
#

omg the download in-game will take a whole hour damn

frosty island
lone crater
# frosty island oh btw now thinking about reruns, a lil while back there was a HoF divine key we...

u mean hofi
depends on what ur goals are
f2p/casual, dont need to backpull for it
meta, its a dkey so having +10 atk for the base weap can be good, but at the same time u dont wanna hurt your pulls for next patch, up to you whether u want to take that trade, +3 can also be considered, depends on how long u wanna go
long term wise none of the recent stuff matters in a year, but the +20 atk from +3 dkey will matter
but u can get away for not having max dkey depending on the server itself as well and whether you have other stuff to compensate

karmic jungle
#

@quick birch which page should i take a pic of again?

tired osprey
#

if i run 2 support valk and there run same Stigmata set do there stack? do there even Work?

quick birch
#

the purple stuff should be enough

karmic jungle
#

i have some yellow stuff

quick birch
#

yeah show those as well

karmic jungle
#

it’s kinda spammy if i do all the pages 😭

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i think these r the most recent ones

quick birch
quick birch
karmic jungle
#

the acc is level 88 idk what the cap is

quick birch
#

do you know how the to build teams with the astral ring system ? if not we can go over that to discuss your team options

quick birch
karmic jungle
#

i only played a little bit of that astral ring thing, like the combo system or smth idk

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like the bottom left lights up blue

quick birch
#

okay give the guide at the bottom of the faq i'll link you in a sec a read and then we can use some of your characters as examples

#

!faq ring

small willowBOT
# quick birch !faq ring
Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

karmic jungle
#

oh i see

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this is the dimension thing, am in sinful

karmic jungle
quick birch
#

yeah just click the link at the bottom

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going over every ring type would be a bit too much rn

karmic jungle
#

hmm i don’t have a lot of these new characters

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with that ring system

quick birch
#

you do, i can see
senadina, thelema, lantern, songque, Schi, hofi + dkey, vita, sparkle and sushang

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that's already quite a bit

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since p2 characters act both at supports and DPSs depending on where they are in the team you can form quite a lot of teams

karmic jungle
#

last one i got was sparkle or something not sure or

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what team should i use for the abyss in the dominance arena

tired osprey
quick birch
karmic jungle
#

uhhh lemme check which one jovial is

#

oh songque

quick birch
# tired osprey Just thinking about Edison set

the edison set does not really have supportive value from what i can see, for beginners you could run something like
theresa gluttony T fu hua muscian MB on the first support
roald amundsen 3pc on the second one

quick birch
#

when you click on that big blue symbol under her name you can see her astral ring specialisation and what tags her supports should have

karmic jungle
#

some of them r shiny

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r those the ones I should use

quick birch
#

there have been some inconsistencies with that glow in the menu so rather actually filter by the supports she wants

abstract sequoia
#

the pin option is nice for sorting purposes still

quick birch
#

you can also filter by specialisation or attributes in game,
the attribute below the specialisation is always what supports that specific specialisation

abstract sequoia
#

every AR valk will be pinned

karmic jungle
#

oh is it these ones then

abstract sequoia
#

not sorted by who's best like Mango said

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yeah

karmic jungle
#

how do u guys know which one is best

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like how can u tell

abstract sequoia
#

trial and error and a bit of theory crafting

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counting buffs

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and depending on the enemies

quick birch
abstract sequoia
#

i forgot if simp is useful

tired osprey
#

does thatt mean that my DPS sould be tthe one who summons sttuff?

abstract sequoia
#

yes

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assuming they are geared

karmic jungle
abstract sequoia
tired osprey
jolly pulsar
#

oh hey Felix!

tired osprey
#

Cheers

abstract sequoia
#

a valk lile HoRb specifies what counts as her own and what's summon dmg

quick birch
#

this is a very general rotation and it can very from boss to boss but we can help you when these situations accour

karmic jungle
#

ok i’ll try

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dunno how hard agony will be

tired osprey
karmic jungle
#

it’s been forever

quick birch
tired osprey
abstract sequoia
#

however, gimping your team over a weather buff is usually less effective

jolly pulsar
#

Can someone help me with understanding Wheel of Destiny stuff
So if WoD is activated, say I have thelema as leader with sena and songque as teammates
when i go into stellar outburst, no initial phantom is generated
when i tap a phantom support generation button, a phantom of the icon will be generated. so if i tap senadina, she'll have one phantom attack
Then rondo in the shadows starts. Then thelema keeps attacking and she will generate additional phantoms of herself
And anytime a phantom attacks it is counted as a shadow star attack

abstract sequoia
#

like, haxxor bunny would work but she is a really old part 1 ice support

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even for recent ice dps she provides next to nothing

karmic jungle
#

should i be doing this too

jolly pulsar
# tired osprey gotcha Ty

think of it like this
If there's a weather buff where girls do 50 percent more damage

Putting a female toddler on the team is still worse than putting in Conner McGregor

Sorry if that made things more confusing

abstract sequoia
#

lmao

karmic jungle
#

n all these missions

abstract sequoia
jolly pulsar
abstract sequoia
#

its crystals

karmic jungle
#

idk i heard this returnee thing isn’t worth it

jolly pulsar
abstract sequoia
tired osprey
karmic jungle
abstract sequoia
jolly pulsar
#

but like i was a returnee once
But it was a well established account and i didnt want to throw away all my styff

abstract sequoia
jolly pulsar
abstract sequoia
#

correct

quick birch
karmic jungle
dry python
karmic jungle
#

didn’t do the stigmata tho

abstract sequoia
#

please do, also valks

jolly pulsar
# tired osprey so just use the Normal team for everything?

not necessarily. you can still adjust based on the weather, but you will have to play around and see what gives you the best score

When I had a newer account, I had at one time only two astral ring valks. So evne if i put both of them on my team, the third character would still be a wildcard that would depend on the weather

quick birch
#

quite a few p2 units

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and decent teams

tired osprey
karmic jungle
abstract sequoia
#

yeah you're decent enough

jolly pulsar
#

when it comes down to "what team should i be putting to help me beat this score?"

It comes down to a wide variety of factors. like stage effects, type counters, etc.

Just note that a character being a part 2 valkyrie counts as a huge factor

abstract sequoia
#

keep playing on this account

jolly pulsar
karmic jungle
abstract sequoia
#

playable tesla

jolly pulsar
tired osprey
abstract sequoia
#

!faq gachaop

small willowBOT
# abstract sequoia !faq gachaop
Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN! AichanAngery

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

  • Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
  • Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30kCrystal).
    • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
  • The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.
abstract sequoia
#

dreamseeker is enough

karmic jungle
#

should i be tryin to pull this new Valkyrie

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espionage

quick birch
#

with your crystal count no you don't have the funds for her

karmic jungle
#

damn

quick birch
#

save for the next patch

abstract sequoia
#

next patch will be the biggest all year

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so you need to be prepared

karmic jungle
#

what is coming next patch

abstract sequoia
#

chinese new year

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usually that's the largest patch every year

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with a lot of rewards, a spending event and potentially a very sure bet that the valkyrie release will break some records

karmic jungle
#

is there anything i should be getting from this shop

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or is it useless now

abstract sequoia
#

depends

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mostly for MA strats it still has its uses

karmic jungle
#

hmm i see, which stuff

shadow gyro
karmic jungle
shadow gyro
#

others are for specific strats or personal preference

abstract sequoia
#

Mei: Beach M
Newton B
Schrƶdinger M
only to name examples

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the last one is very specific

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HoO uses it in a strat where you gamble more ults with 7 thunder

jolly pulsar
#

that's like advanced stuff

I don't deal with that nonsense because im lazy

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my poor newton b in shambles

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(dont tell tencent)

karmic jungle
#

have those i think so thankfully should be good

jolly pulsar
abstract sequoia
#

4 newton? SakuraWTF

jolly pulsar
#

FOUR???

karmic jungle
#

will just save for next patch

shadow gyro
karmic jungle
#

ah okie gotcha

jolly pulsar
shadow gyro
#

i have one and i have hardly ever used it

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prob bc im a part 2 valk player

karmic jungle
#

idk i played a long time ago and sometimes they made us use it a lot so i got a few

shadow gyro
#

they did have more relevancy back then
they still have niches now but its too little

karmic jungle
#

ohh i see

abstract sequoia
#

keep them around, you never know. many old strats in SS MA still work

shadow gyro
#

yeah
and its not like you'll get anything important from getting rid of them so

karmic jungle
#

should i be trying to unlock these other 2

shadow gyro
#

you can only unlock by getting it from gacha

karmic jungle
#

oh

shadow gyro
#

not worth back pulling mind you
despite the atk they give
only matters if you also happen to have the characters and you really like them
i won't care about syns unless you're a nirvana player with spare pulls

karmic jungle
#

idk about that im in agony

shadow gyro
#

yesh then it doesn't matter

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if you don't care about nirvana then pulling just for extra attack won't do anything to you

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if you still want more attack you can look at the farmable dkeys instead
if you didn't get them all already

karmic jungle
#

i think i have the rest

shadow gyro
#

that's good enough

karmic jungle
#

just those ones i don’t have

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oh all my old emblems expired too, i didn’t know it could do that

shadow gyro
#

which ones?

karmic jungle
shadow gyro
#

yeah that's normal
you're meant to play to add to their time

karmic jungle
#

hmm i see

shadow gyro
#

the abyss and MA emblems are still there if you ever wanna go back and get them
but since you already unlocked them they still could towards the collection points

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the end of patch event emblems rerun too when their events are back

karmic jungle
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so just save crystals n wait rn basically?

shadow gyro
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yeah

karmic jungle
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okie

shadow gyro
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you can wait for into (in less than a week) from #šŸ”®cn-gameplay-discussion if you wanna know what we will get next patch
but there's no info yet so just wait

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otherwise since you don't have any crystals i would just carry on anyways

eternal spindle
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so uh am i cooked?
rita hle is the only thing that does dmg but it take so long to SO and i need 2 max charge ones to kill
unless i’m missing mechanics

shadow gyro
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Hi, which of the non-event Valkyries are suitable for the new Rita? I just started playing, and she dropped from the first 10 pulse.

shadow gyro
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also by non event i assume non gacha

indigo crest
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now there is almost nothing except the starting ones

indigo crest
shadow gyro
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if you unlocked or can unlock VBm (a rank coralie) from the first section part 2 story with her hammer
or get her or rank her from the asterite shop
she's a general slot filler for part 2 teams

indigo crest
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OK, thanks. Who can be put in the 3rd slot?

shadow gyro
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last slot can be RC (the cat girl) or TA (terminal aide)
can consider VBs (a rank helia) but im a bit against it because you need her stigmatas and that's extra resources compared to the rest that can use cheaper alternatives

#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message

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this link can give you an idea on what to use on the characters

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for new rita or ME, make sure you get her own scythe from the equipment supply

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her stigmatas are there too that she wants to use
if you get the weapon before getting the full piece set, you can use the log in box and/or get the missing pieces from the foundry

opal lily
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everytime i use hot ult i just FALL out of the map during story 😭

shadow gyro
jolly pulsar
jaunty beacon
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how do i get a lvl 40 stigmata because i got one, but idk how to do it again because the max i can do is 35

serene crystal
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Higher rarity stigmata can be levelled further

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@jaunty beacon

jaunty beacon
serene crystal
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Yes the purple ones are higher rarity and can be levelled further

jaunty beacon
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just tried it

serene crystal
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Lower rarity ones start as blue and get purple once you upgrade them. Higher rarity option starts as purple and stay purple a you upgrade them

lyric anvil
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If you priarm they stay purple then become gold when fully upgraded Dorysia

jaunty beacon
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huh ok
how do i get purple stigmatas

lyric anvil
jaunty beacon
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where is foundry?

lyric anvil
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Supply

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Can also check by going to equip checking either Stigmata or weapon tab and press the forge? Craft button? I don't remember the name veli_ded

jaunty beacon
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no materials...
is there anywhere else i can get purple stig

lyric anvil
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Gacha Dorysia

jaunty beacon
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bro what.
i need 3 lvl 40 stigmatas for beginner supply

lyric anvil
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Oh-

lyric anvil
serene crystal
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The beginner shop should have three pieces of Peary or Fu Hua Musician which you can get reasonably early

jaunty beacon
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lemme check

lyric anvil
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Marco Polo also

jaunty beacon
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oh those
ok ima buy them
thanks

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i want to clarify something. When we were talking about stigmata rarities earlier, you should really be paying attention to their base rarities or max possible rarities

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because a lower base rarity stigmata may start as blue but end up as purple and won't qualify for your manual mission

jaunty beacon
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yeah i saw

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for higher rarity stigmata, you need something that already starts as purple

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also starter manual isn't something you necessarily need to rush urgently. Definitely do NOT aimlessly roll in a gacha just to get higher rarity stigs.

Materials for upgrading stig might run dry early on if you spend them on stigs you don't need either.

lyric anvil
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Prisms being a very scarce material right now

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this is especially to note when you cannot even craft much from the foundry atm

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and yeah source prism is especially important for modern and useful stigs. Be frugal with those

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!faq prisms

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Source Prism

Hi, Captain! AichanCrystals

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!

Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).

jaunty beacon
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is herrcher of human ego still somewhat relevant in meta rn

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although if you cannot craft that i do not encourage you to go out of your way to get those materials (SS imaginons). Story or events may give some of them (although thinking about it now i haven't really seen them in event rewards as of late)

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the foundry menu is massive so use the filter button at the top right

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gluttony is a basic stigmata

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jaunty beacon
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huh ok

jolly pulsar
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In WoD teams, does a character consume their own stellar drain first, or their teammates?

quick birch
jaunty beacon
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oh yeah i did mb

quick birch
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np

quick birch
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given that they have HSS

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#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message i have this write up of my own too for weighing out pros and cons but the short answer to that is

if you don't already have it, i don't recommend it. It's been a few months since its release and alot of her use cases aren't as prevalent anymore.

jolly pulsar
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But not those without it

quick birch
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yes, should be mentioned in the leader skill

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valk specific stellar drain effects still trigger on a valk per valk basis i believe. Like vita will still get her initial large sum of ARI if she's the one triggering it

quick birch
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she can also trigger that in LoA afaik

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oh ok i didn't realize the weapon effect was specific to celestial rupture

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but the abyssal energy stacks should still be tied to stellar drain right?

quick birch
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yeah i forgot about those

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oh nvm this is weird too

quick birch
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huh they aren't

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it still says celestial rupture but also stellar drain

quick birch
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so idk how it would go for LoA lol

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i can't really scroll up any further but ignore the first bullet point here

quick birch
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oh wait you can't accumalte more than 1 abyssal energy anyway, because every attack that provides those stacks trigger stellar drain

quick birch
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anyway, i think the main point to take from this was that all stellar drains are thrown into one pool in WoD but it still matters who triggers them

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yeah exactly

kind hull
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which is the best Adventure tasks to open every week? ive done all the main stories except apho2

shell basin
slim citrus
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i played a few years back and now im back with a fresh account, which one of these weapons is the most valuable would you say? im between the key of ego or the fists
i have the cat girl (forgot name) & will get HoHe & Shushang from the beginner event soon

shell basin
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Purana is probably the most valuable

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Because RC is useful as a cope support, she gives pretty good generic buffs

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HoHE is a better Valkyrie than RC but she would need a different weapon (her new dkey) to support anyone

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JK

  • Only supports ice
  • is worse than RC for the most recent ice dps even if you had them
  • can sort of cope with nebs instead if you want to use her anyway
kind hull
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i have a valk option egg s rank sitting about, none of the valks in the egg are particularly good or meta and i dont really want any of them, should i just get the Willpower?

shell basin
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None of them are meta. The ā€œbestā€ option is to save it to grab whatever Elysian realm Valkyrie you take the longest to obtain by other means but

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It’s not hugely valuable in general. Efficiency wise I think willpower is the worst option tho

kind hull
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on a similar note, i know that not many if any of the valks in war treasury are meta, is it just again 'wait and see who takes longest to get for ely realm' for which ones of them to get first, or is there an order i should do

shell basin
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There’s a priority in pins but that’s broadly it

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Some of them have niche use if you have their gear (you don’t) and Senti / Flamescion have more than zero in MA even without it but even then don’t expect too much

iron kernel
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is it worth it to get 880 chips for elysia as a beginner

lone crater
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the crystals itself is worth if u whale

ancient needle
iron kernel
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yes that

ancient needle
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Ely might be useful in the earlygame, but that's it

shell basin
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If you’re already getting monthly card u can consider it

iron kernel
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im level 40 now with hov idk if elys better than hov

ancient needle
shell basin
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But if u aren’t getting monthly card already no point

iron kernel
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ohh i see thanks yall

ancient needle
iron kernel
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im not planning to spend much but the level rush looks interesting

ancient needle
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And she'll run miles around both HoV and Ely

iron kernel
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oh shes worth to roll for?

ancient needle
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Her future value for new players is unknown strictly speaking

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But she absolutely will be useful short-term

iron kernel
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oh

ancient needle
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Don't forget to get her weap too btw

iron kernel
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is there the latest tier list

iron kernel
ancient needle
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Tier lists don't really work here

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There are a lot of niches to cover and a valk's performance can vary extremely between them

iron kernel
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oh i see

ancient needle
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A valk can be BiS in one niche and be literally useless in another

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Generally speaking you just pull brand new valks + their weaps

ancient needle
iron kernel
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i see ty

eternal spindle
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what do i use for MA this week?

shell basin
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Could try Songkek Rita VBM /TA as well but WoD Sonque dps is depressing

shadow gyro
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but yeah hle team one side and rita team another side is the best option here

eternal spindle
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am i playing rita in ER incorrectly or sth she barely does any dmg
atleast in comparison to hle

shadow gyro
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what signets are you going for
esp the go ones

eternal spindle
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picking griseo when it comes up

shadow gyro
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oh ok so i take it this is the astra ring build
did you level her in shallow sequence first by any chance?

eternal spindle
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i do have her at lvl 12 but i cant imagine it is so much better getting to lvl 15
iirc hle basically onetap everything when i got her back then

shadow gyro
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hmm thats strange
i cant think of anything weird
maybe you can show me a snippet of a run with her to see if the issue is there

eternal spindle
shadow gyro
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yeah thats correct

eternal spindle
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weird

shadow gyro
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oh maybe if you affixed your hle but didnt yet on rita that can be it? i still dont imagine it being that significant

eternal spindle
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my rita is more affixed than my hle SOBS

shadow gyro
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😭

eternal spindle
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maybe my perspective is just shrewed cuz of hle, it's not like i can't clear, just uncharacteristically long

serene crystal
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She is notably slower then good characters but should not have issues clearing

shadow gyro
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yeah rita is slow despite there being no issue with her dmg lol

iron kernel
shell basin
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so if you're already getting monthly card then level rush could be worth it

iron kernel
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oh i havent

shell basin
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but if u arent just get that instead

iron kernel
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thanks

eternal spindle
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can someone explain the cadet system? what/how do i get rewards recruiting cadets? how many cadets can i have? is there any benefit/drawbacks of having multiple? stuff like that (idk if there is a faq for that)

slim blaze
jolly pulsar
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what in the

jaunty beacon
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What’s the easiest item to craft

shadow gyro
abstract sequoia
jaunty beacon
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I just crafted some random 3-star wep

abstract sequoia
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you will need that anyway

abstract sequoia
jaunty beacon
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Also for universal mirage do I really need to run phys

abstract sequoia
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depends on the stage

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type advantage and newer valks can scale higher

jaunty beacon
abstract sequoia
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i assume your newest is vbm?

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or which valks do you have

jaunty beacon
abstract sequoia
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valkyrie blastmetal

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coralie