👶beginner-help

[wraith brook]

eu
U probably can do 800+
based on stats, but im not sure cuz if guys here help u , and idk what reason not send ref

U can try it, just

@novel path what device u use?

[novel path]

pc

[wraith brook]

oh

https://youtu.be/JdP0nTdrfJ4?si=_oey6pXpzEgGJwUG so here

[novel path]

im not very good yet to reach scores that high, only started playing competive like a month ago

was just collecting mostly until then xD

gonna try this ref ty

[wraith brook]

mb is update ur score
(i do 813)
As i can see, u need hold WA of HoHe and aim red point (dk if it rly matter, but they do by some reason, mb to win more score), also u ult(when on HoHe) for HLE QTE, bc she main dmg, use WA(after HoHe ult) not necessary, u just need buff that provide from her WA ( i guess so).

[novel path]

alright gonna try again in a little bit, by the red i should be able to at least do 800, but im missing many atk from the divine keys tunning so that lowers my dmg a bit also

[wraith brook]

so what ur atk stat?

mb not much difference with my, cuz i too miss D key

[ancient needle]

1. You should let Badum's WA actually hit for it to reduce max HP by 8%
2. Not much point in HoHE's WA after ulting
3. You won't need Badum's WA for the second time in the same phase in that case
4. Gotta not whiff the ult through the door (left door is best btw)

[novel path]

thanks

[slim blaze]

Lmao

Somehow t1 + 100 with 808 score

[wraith brook]

grac

[novel path]

what does it mean hold a? a for him its the dodge

and its on badum opener

[glad ice]

hold atk

[novel path]

ohhhh i was thinking its the controllor keys xD

[glad ice]

[novel path]

thanks ❤️

and he swtiches after the first hit of hold atk?

its so fast i cant even see it xD im so noob

[glad ice]

yeah just the start of the atk (u dont get ARI with it). badum debuff appear on the boss if u done right

[novel path]

ok thanks

[wraith brook]

can we see it?

[novel path]

yeah i could now xD

actually did much better now

785 but my actions are so slow compared to the ref i cant think that fast xD

need more practise

[glad ice]

quite obstructed by the boss body but here is the blue debuff (bsc badum skin)

[wraith brook]

u can try pause after move if u not sure what to do next

[wraith brook]

oh

[glad ice]

this is what it normally look like

and its a snow flake bcs badum skin. default skin is different

[wraith brook]

рhm

i see

thanks

[storm lantern]

Increase your fps

More score with no skill required

[low matrix]

Hello chat, how much crystals does elysian realm give in total?

Im far from unlocking it but it would be nice 2 know

[serene crystal]

see pins

[sweet flax]

one at a time boys

[glad ice]

lol

ig ill forward page 2

[sweet flax]

[glad ice]

[sweet flax]

#💁gameplay-help message

keep in mind its a weekly source of one time crystals

(weekly being unlocking valks once a week, each valk has their own one time crystals associated with them, check the message I linked)

[novel path]

dont know if it was that but did 3 more points xD

increased from 60 to 120

thats the max

[storm lantern]

If your run was the same yeah it was the fps

You can increase it more but it doesn't really matter as much beyond 120

[novel path]

the graphics matter? like i play with everything on high

[storm lantern]

Test it yourself idk what settings matter

[novel path]

ok ty

[storm lantern]

If you have stable 120 and aren't uncapping you can keep settings where they are

[hardy lintel]

Hello, is this weapon worth getting from de Key box as I have Hercher of reason? Or does her has a d key and I shouldn't bother with

[serene crystal]

HoR is not viable no matter what weapon she has, but she has no better options then this.
The only valks which have gotten a new d key are HoFi, HoHe and HoRB

[hardy lintel]

I see, I thought more had lol

[serene crystal]

It is fine to take it if you want to use her as none of the other options do anything more

[hardy lintel]

Okay

[serene crystal]

Technically HoS also has brick which got her back to viability at its release but she is also not viable anymore even with it.

[spiral badge]

Do you understand the non-battle purpose of divine keys? @hardy lintel

none of the weapons in the box has actual battle use in the current meta. But you still want to get something you don't already have so you can tune to integrate it into the dorm dkey menu. From doing so you can generally unlock a +10 atk buff per weapon to all your valks.

Not much on its own and not important if you're casual, but it does add up to matter high in the meta.

!faq dkey what

[small willow]

Divine Keys

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Divine Key explanation pin!

Divine keys are special weapons that can give permanent bonuses to your account!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

you may even opt to leave the box alone for now if you haven't opened it yet

for casual gameplay purposes you can also try out HoR's dkey with her tutorials before getting it from the box

[hardy lintel]

Sorry replying late but I am aware they useful outside just wasn't sure exactly how they worked xd

Thanks 🙏

[hardy lintel]

I completely forgot to ask about this boy

[outer spruce]

outdated, also that's not a dkey

all the old herrscher weapons are called keys but they're not dkeys

[hardy lintel]

Noted

[serene crystal]

You can find a list of all d keys on the wiki if you want to check @hardy lintel

[thorn briar]

How can I access the beta?
I want to test it but idk how to access

[lone crater]

is invite only, u sign up for a form, and if u get chosen u can play

[thorn briar]

Can you tell me on which page the form is done, please?

[lone crater]

well for global, it aint here yet

[thorn briar]

Oki thanks

[glad ice]

it will be announced in game, form is also in game like the end patch survey

[lone kindle]

its already closed guys

beta recruitment for next patch was last week

[lone crater]

he probs mean next next one

[lone kindle]

"it aint here yet"

[lone crater]

yea

[lone kindle]

its already passed

[lone crater]

next next one aint here

[lone kindle]

if you are correct, then its a really bad way of explaining it

a thing that comes every two months, just ended, and you say it aint here yet?

"it just ended, next one will be on next patch"

[lone crater]

well if u took the it as that way sure

[shy kiln]

how long is chapter 4

do i have time to do story and get ds chip before abyss ends

this is life or death

[lone crater]

you prob have other areas u can work on

rather than to worry about ds rank

[shy kiln]

im 1 singular point off from +100 so i have no idea what else i could try

[lone crater]

post ur run or something

[shy kiln]

word

[supple rose]

i just redownloaded the game after 2 years, what valks are good

[shadow gyro]

sorry this is late but this will help

also if you can maybe tell if youve set any goals on what to do with the game rn
since that's something else that can help with pulling the valks

[lyric hornet]

If I only have hle and fdd with their weapons, seeing as the next abyss is fire should I use fdd with vbm and vbs/hle or should I just try and power through with hle fdd and vbm?

[shell basin]

I would do FDD, it's gonna be super painful without a proper team but better that that trying to use HLE dps on litost

litost is a skill intensive boss so you might be able to skill diff people with proper teams

depending on what abyss you are in

[lyric hornet]

I got promoted to RL so I doubt I can skill diff most of them. Would I use VBS or hle I know neither are true supports for FDD iirc.

[shell basin]

hi love elf, her stellar drain is way faster

[lyric hornet]

Got it thanks.

Do you have a video I could use to study by chance?

[shell basin]

not with that exact team, if you end up needing one you can ask when abyss is up and I'll see if I have time to record, but here's one with vbm so at least hopefully similar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7p28EP698

check 6:46

[lyric hornet]

Okay thanks so much.

[low matrix]

Does pity pass between banners

[unborn tide]

Can HoRb be used as a support with her DK for PE Dudu?

[ancient needle]

Depends on the banner strictly speaking, but for regular valk and weap banners it does

[unborn tide]

I have tried to press her buttons, but I don't see impair icon on enemies.

[ancient needle]

No, with the dkey she works only in P2 teams

[low matrix]

regular Valk is like well s rank valks like hi love elf rite?

[ancient needle]

Ye

By non-regular I meant extra special banners like Carnival

!faq supply

[small willow]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[fallen shale]

for this abyss should I use FDD or FWS? I have FWS, PS, PAWS, FDD and HLE

[dusty tartan]

Is getting RC past S from the asterite shop worth it? I'm using her with my only team which is HLE, VBm, and RC.

[serene crystal]

FDD Litost wants ignite

[shell basin]

FDD paws VBM

You could do Badum FDD paws but it’s worse

[storm lantern]

good question actually, obviously fdd better with bis supports but you dont have them, i think fdd will still be better but you can try both

[quick birch]

Nah not really, she's already good enough at A rank you're only getting her to S for a passive that's pretty nice for HLE. Other than that you want to focus your asterite on other chars for now

[shell basin]

Upgrading your team for abyss is one of your highest priorities. Don’t go overboard on RC but yeah you’d benefit from her ranks if it doesn’t come at the cost of VBM ranks

[fallen shale]

it's just last time it was fire shill and not ignite I was told to use fws

[storm lantern]

paws prob enough to make her better

[serene crystal]

Last one didn't care about ignite

[fallen shale]

this one does?

[shell basin]

Yeah. And also FDD has type counter

[fallen shale]

ic

[shell basin]

If you didn’t have paws Badum with FDD support would be fine but you do have paws so it’s better

To use FDD

[dusty tartan]

I got my RC to S, but I noticed leader ability might help HLE? Going from S to SS seems like it'll take a ton of asterite though so maybe it's not worth it?

[quick birch]

You don't want RC to be the leader so it doesn't really help her in any way

[dusty tartan]

Oh ok, that's how it works. So SS doesn't help at all?

[dusty tartan]

I've been buying VBm and just started buying TA since I need a 3rd team for MA

[quick birch]

It probably has some other buffs with other skills but you rather want to focus on other fragments for now as mentioned

[dusty tartan]

got it, ty!

[fallen shale]

I'm only 25 trophies away from RL @.@

[shell basin]

It does a couple of minor SP bonuses (let’s RC ult sooner and more often) plus increases buff of subzero sales a little

So more than nothing, not enough to prioritize

[dusty tartan]

I assumed RC ult wasn't worth using, but I'm used to other games where the timer doesn't pause during the ult animation.

So I should be using RC's ult when it comes up? I also haven't been using VBm's ult either

[shell basin]

VBM’s ult isn’t worth the timer when you can do jump attack WA, but it’s sometimes worth using at the start of abyss since it gives bigger buffs. RC’s ult is a similar case by case thing, afaik it’s a little slower than her purple combo but not never useful

(Don’t assume all ults pause timer, only some of them do and sometimes they only slow it or it passes normally)

[abstract sequoia]

ults that pause timers are described as such in their skill description

either exactly like "pauses all timers" or a different term "Time-Frozen Domain"

when they do that it's always obvious

base it on abyss points not decreasing

[shell basin]

Yeah

So like I said, SS is better than S but it’s marginal gains around the edge and there’s a lot of things newbies want to spend asterite on

[abstract sequoia]

MA timer works different by being slowed by ultimate evasions, but equally affected by time stop

[dusty tartan]

Ah ok, thanks! Yeah, I'm trying to learn to read the skills, but it's hard to keep track of all the different systems

Especially when they aren't in other games, like learning that RC's leader skill tree doesn't apply to my team.

[shell basin]

It applies when she is leader

But HLE’s leader skill is better so you want to put her as leader instead

[abstract sequoia]

technically, part 1 valk leader skills are better in buffing part 1 teams. This is because everything in part 2 (astral ring) valk's leader skills is usually related to astral ring mechanics

but this only holds true if a part 1 valk would deal more damage as the result. You will see plenty of examples especially in MA. Also, Stellar Keys that turn Part 1 valks into Part 2 valks do not overwrite their previous leader skills so those also still buff teams in the same ways as before.

sorry if this is a bit long, but i swear it will make sense once you encounter those situations

if you want I can give some video examples if you need them to understand

[dusty tartan]

sure, thanks

the only content creator I know of is Marisa Honkai

[slim blaze]

Oh moriso

[amber finch]

i forgor how to litost

ches memory momento

[wintry wharf]

cora helia and vita

[amber finch]

but how to press atk

[glad ice]

p1 leader skill is quite unique

p2 is just blah blah more dmg

[amber finch]

aint p1 lead either “oh nice have more tdm” or “oh nice have more sp”

[glad ice]

hp, crit rate, crit dmg, qte, switch char

charge atk, hit count

[amber finch]

they all boil down to more dmg no?

[glad ice]

but yeah in the end all u want is just dmg

sp isnt dmg btw

[amber finch]

yeah, talking about uniqueness when it comes to that is pretty hard to defend

[glad ice]

its qol

[amber finch]

thx i just started yesterday

anyways ram what do i do for opening

[shell basin]

Dodge and then counterattack

[amber finch]

oh so no farming or anything

eh the timegap is too little for farming ig

actually why am i asking just to receive half ass answers

imma just find dodoco’s old run or smt

[abstract sequoia]

Herrscher of Origin lead with HoFi on Waxing Moon vs Bygone Deliverance in MA.

https://youtu.be/PM3JPjQ3D_0
This team used to be the best coping strategy against this boss if you don't have Reign Solaris (the Best In Slot option) and had their own speed advantages.
HoO's leader skills benefit not only her but the entire team normally because she is considered a Part 1 valkyrie. Her leader skill grants elemental DMG to the team and initial SP. The initial SP bonus doubles when a Kiana is on the team, which helps everyone to ult quicker.
Why HoFi in the team with new gear? Because one of the effects of her new stigmata (Iskandar) specifically buffs Meis and primarily Herrscher of Origin when Astral Ring is NOT activated, making HoFi the best support for HoO and this team situationially viable.
It should be noted that there are some variations to this team, with Golden Diva sometimes leading when the Initial SP is not required (her leader skill's damage bonuses are higher). Also, HoO does have a lot of variance for her own gear. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcK-h60UUho)

A very common SS MA quick kill method with HoHe lead and Thelema (MPS)

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1su7fzAEjs/?t=299
Assuming you don't need both of these valks elsewhere, this is your easiest way to kill the SS MA bosses while the timer never ticks down from 5:00, meaning a 0s kill and the highest score possible.
This is an example for showing how HoHe's dk didn't overwrite her Part 1 leader skill, granting every Ice valk initial SP. Pair this with Thelema's weapon doing the same if she isn't the leader and you can ult with her pretty much as soon as the fight starts.

MMG with Sparkle support vs Ignite Andrius

https://youtu.be/hA6Lwlv5g_k
Before FDD (S Rank Coralie), Part 2 lacked options for ignite damage. Sparkle had support capabilities for part 1 ignite users, enabling them to keep ticking up ignite and allowing for faster ults.
MMG's leader skill enables her own damage more than anything else, granting more Ignite DMG to the team but also to herself.

FoV with Sparkle support vs Starless Rimestar

https://youtu.be/BGZZm6aMN3E
Same as last example, but different run which especially highlights the faster ults advantage.
Also this specific boss and weather probably still has the same team if it ever reruns (Starless: Gain Total DMG +15%, effect is disabled during Stellar Outburst. When Astral Ring is not activated, Total DMG +50%.)
FoV also uses her buffs pretty selfishly in this team, although it does apply for the entire team

Any Trio team ever (HoFi lead, HoO, HoTr)

https://youtu.be/K67RSdGcRGI
The very prime example of how "Part 1" leader skills can affect the entire team's damage. The damage balance between the three is exactly how the team is sorted, with HoFi providing the primary damage but Mei and Bronya's damage contributions are still very notable (with Bronya more on the supportive and Mei on the offensive side).
The Part 1 leader skill is still very simplistic in nature, granting Team Elemental DMG and double of that to Kiana if she's together with the full trio. However, this being Elemental DMG means that everyone in the Trio team is buffed from it, despite being different elements. There's plenty of other buffs that buff this team other than the leader skill, but I would sidetrack too much counting it all up.

Either way, I wanted to show with this how leader skills can affect teams or just the main dps in different kind of ways. In modern teams (especially Astral Ring), the leader is the main dps although in the past many years ago this used to be different and teams were even more versatile back then.

[shell basin]

If you want specifics maybe give team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7p28EP698 is the dodoco run ig

[amber finch]

oh my bad ig i should mention the bis team next time

[dusty tartan]

wow, ty!

[abstract sequoia]

you're welcome, really

[amber finch]

why is there ignite wolf

[abstract sequoia]

example for selfish leader skills

[amber finch]

ohh

[abstract sequoia]

i mean there used to be ignite supports like Chrono Navi, which TFM directly replaced

so this wasn't always a selfish buff

FoV's however definitely was more catered towards her own damage

[amber finch]

oh wait a second, next abyss is teriri’s right

[abstract sequoia]

litost first

[amber finch]

yeah after that

[abstract sequoia]

teriri or sparkle

[amber finch]

oh right timezones i forgor

[abstract sequoia]

both are viable

[amber finch]

nvm im not nirbing then

[abstract sequoia]

not both btw

[shell basin]

You don’t need both

Just 1

[amber finch]

yeah here’s the thing, i dont have either

[abstract sequoia]

no options then

[glad ice]

u just need to tank -100

[amber finch]

eh its rl

[abstract sequoia]

sandbag litost if you're on the brink

[amber finch]

no one knows how to play qua valks

i’d be fine in rl

[abstract sequoia]

i doubt that's the case

[amber finch]

it is the case for me

[abstract sequoia]

alright, go get that bread then

[amber finch]

i’d just diff them smh

[shell basin]

I mean tbf it’s reso quantum not quantum quantum so probably less awful to cope

[abstract sequoia]

maybe

[amber finch]

who knows

[shell basin]

If you use idk horb or sena or smth

[amber finch]

inb4 i get into a nirb reject bracket

[abstract sequoia]

and it's vita, she does her collapsable attacks very fast

[shell basin]

Now me, I’m -100 unless my bracket is insanely skill issued because I don’t have quantum or weather, but still

[abstract sequoia]

i'm not even playing fair if I go in with kiaelf 4* and every resonance valk except sena and eepy

wait, i think i'm promoting into vita actually

didn't think of that

[shell basin]

Technically Sonkek is better, but yeah sparkle vita Thelema or whatever gonna put in the numbers

Horb actually

Since its sparkle, whatever

[abstract sequoia]

sparkle/vita/horb is my guess

[glad ice]

how good is sparkle as a ws supp

[abstract sequoia]

slow

no experience with her buffs though

[glad ice]

isnt it just qte and bang bang

[abstract sequoia]

she still does her SO animations

so kicking the fish, doing the slow kicks, teleporting behind the enemy into gunshot

[glad ice]

horb is also slow like that, no?

or does she secretly has a quick ping

[wary shuttle]

@glad ice yes hello friend I am friction ☺️

[abstract sequoia]

i believe she makes up for it in her own damage

[wary shuttle]

@abstract sequoia hi yes I am friction 😚

[abstract sequoia]

she can also do a weaker version of her finisher, without actually cancelling outburst

like PAWS does it as a GoI support

[glad ice]

hi friction, welcome to our gibberish chat @wary shuttle

[glad ice]

well, i mean why not horb dps and sparkle supp

[abstract sequoia]

because vita is quantum type

type advantage and the resonance triggers are the element and type of the mark placer

[glad ice]

oh i forgot about type counter

[abstract sequoia]

[abstract sequoia]

i mean horb dps is still better if sparkle lacks her signature wep

[glad ice]

welp, god bless sparkler-less players

[slim blaze]

Howdy

Thanks

[frozen crypt]

@wary shuttle

[wary shuttle]

Yes I am friction 🥰

@frozen crypt

What is this ai Chan reaction

@small willow no do that

[abstract sequoia]

it's just what happens when a mod is pinged directly

[wary shuttle]

@abstract sequoia why did the mid ping at me

[abstract sequoia]

ask her

[frozen crypt]

to see if your responses were automated

it makes no sense why you are suddenly active after years pinging random people saying 'hi I am friction'

can you explain why you are doing this

[lone kindle]

@wary shuttle it is indeed weird ngl, i agree with the greens

[wary shuttle]

I only pinged the two most recent people in the chat, you’re overthinking

[frozen crypt]

but why

[lone kindle]

Yes, and you replied to 3/4 people who pinged you with "hi I'm friction"

[wary shuttle]

Actually 3/3 not including you…… but you genius detectives seemingly want to target me for some reason

[frozen crypt]

we suspected that you are a bot lol, this behaviour is not normal

do you have any questions considering this is beginner help?

[quick brook]

i made a new account and what lvl do i need to be to unlock pri arm

[abstract sequoia]

level 50 afaik

[frozen crypt]

50

[quick brook]

ahhh nice almost there

[frozen crypt]

can't upgrade them until exalted

so you end up with 50 PRI

[abstract sequoia]

lvl 65 is the max PRI level

costing SC metal, Einstein Torus and Alloy Cubes

all not as abundant, so think carefully about what you upgrade

keep the mats for new releases, instead of old stuff

[abstract sequoia]

It really was no offense towards you, we're just careful since bot accounts sometimes show up out of nowhere and can affect less suspecting users. We really want to avoid these kind of situations.

So that's why this talk is happening, to confirm that this isn't the case since you've been inactive for many years with 0 messages before

Lurkers exist, I'm also one in most servers, but this is why communication is important

[glad ice]

yeah i suspected u as an AI or smt too

[lone kindle]

We all did, that's exactly why we are questioning

We dont have anything against you if you are a real person, but the way you were replying and acting seemed really bot

[amber finch]

me when robot

[amber finch]

can you faq pwo for me

the faq that tells you how many of the gold orbs you get perfrag

[abstract sequoia]

!faq pwo

[small willow]

Pure Witch Orb

Hi, Captain!

After successfully upgrading an S-Rank Valkyrie to SSS, the "Pure Witch Orb" section of the Witch's Corridor shop will be unlocked. Like normal Witch Orbs, any more fragments you obtain from this Valkyrie can be converted into Pure Witch Orbs (pwo) via Equip > Fragments > Convert (above Salvage, bottom right).

Conversions:

• S-rank valk frag => 50 pwo
• S-rank Awakening valk frag => 30 pwo

Here, you can buy everything shown in the image below. Occasionally new stamps get added to this shop. The recommendation is to buy Wafer Stabilizers, but you may also buy stamps of your choice or even Wafer Dataflows if you are pushing for 23 ATK affix lines.

[abstract sequoia]

this?

[amber finch]

thenks

[abstract sequoia]

np

[amber finch]

yeppers couldnt find it in the search

[sweet flax]

nub

[amber finch]

(i dont rmb the name)

wat the firk

[abstract sequoia]

bottom of wall of guides has the faq's documented

with multiple aliases

[amber finch]

woah

[sweet flax]

that and the fact ches couldnt type faq pwo in the search is funny

[amber finch]

oh so it’d be better if i just pick 400 aw over 16 jk frags

[amber finch]

shud up

[sweet flax]

depends ig

[amber finch]

purely for pwo

[sweet flax]

then ye, since you can get more s rank shards with the aw then 16 jk shards iirc

[amber finch]

i dont need pwo immediately too

[sweet flax]

unless aw is for just awakening valks then maybe not

but generally you should have enough per week to get 1.5k

[amber finch]

yeah im not sss-ing anyone else

[amber finch]

yeah but im trying to maintain my 2.3k income

thats how im always in debt when it comes to aw

[sweet flax]

gg

[amber finch]

3 more weeks and im done tho

[abstract sequoia]

i'm constantly in debt too because i didn't SSS anyone except HoR

[amber finch]

unless i want to buy hohe stamps too

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

heavily debating this

[sweet flax]

what rank is your hohe again

[amber finch]

s2 lmfao

[abstract sequoia]

[sweet flax]

cooked regardless

[amber finch]

died last hohe shill

i can immediately get her to ss1 rn

if i bought the stamps

but that means my || horb || wont have a high rank asap smh

idk if its announced or smt

[sweet flax]

oh wait pwo update?

[amber finch]

yeah

[sweet flax]

cough

[amber finch]

smh

[sweet flax]

fk u

[amber finch]

ogey

[abstract sequoia]

i forgor about that

i'll be so poor

[sweet flax]

tbh s2 is already a good spot.... but ss

[abstract sequoia]

i have s0 horb

[sweet flax]

I wanted to ss hofi

[abstract sequoia]

s2 hofi

[sweet flax]

ye s2 hofi here as well

or s3

[abstract sequoia]

1 stamp off s3

[sweet flax]

I can get hofi to ss1 ig through pwo

[amber finch]

the atk dif and multiplier dif is too real

[sweet flax]

ye

wanna make full use of the +2 I have

[amber finch]

saem

[sweet flax]

but she probs wont be as shilled

[amber finch]

still

[sweet flax]

also if I end up getting rita next patch

this will be useless

[abstract sequoia]

who knows

[sweet flax]

omfg I forgot to do elysian realm last week

[amber finch]

i need to get cdm lines on my horb lmao

[sweet flax]

-500

[amber finch]

ig if a img fire abyss comes?

[sweet flax]

I mean there's just symphony flower no?

but you could do symphony with rita

[cosmic iris]

how do you know which stats to build on which valks?

[shell basin]

Bricked

[shell basin]

Build attack. Occasionally for physical you can consider a good crit damage line

But 99% of the time attack

[sweet flax]

they all scale with atk, they all require their signature gear
physical valks (who do not deal damage through bleed) can afford crit dmg affixes, but atk is still as good

[cosmic iris]

what abt affixes that are like ice dmg or smth boost

is that interchangeable or still just atk

[shell basin]

Bad

Just attack

[sweet flax]

the only one who uses it is lv with the lightning dmg boost, but lv sees no use and without her gear/team cant be played properly anyways

[shell basin]

Type attack and weapon attack are best, generic attack is okay but has smaller numbers

So for instance for HLE SD attack and Archer attack

[cosmic iris]

ohhh ok tysm!!

[shell basin]

NP

[abstract sequoia]

If you want to know the details behind it, see the damage calculation formulas
https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_Calculation#Base_Damage

Even if you're not too interested in that, it kinda explains why most valks choose ATK over "additionial elemental DMG". ATK is within the damage formula, while the latter is just added onto the already finished result.

it also shows you the mystery behind the CRT stat and why increasing it for physical valks isn't that impactful

Crit Damage however is a well debated alternative depending on the valkyrie

[eternal spindle]

how does superstring dimention work? im so confused

[serene crystal]

Post or pre breaktrough?

[abstract sequoia]

superstring is post

q-manifold is pre-breakthrough

[eternal spindle]

post

[abstract sequoia]

you have 3 mob stages, 2 on-weather and 1 off-weather

the 4th and final stage is the boss, where points matter and how fast you can kill the boss

[serene crystal]

All mob stages give full points for a clear

[abstract sequoia]

weathers are what dictates who's stronger and who's weaker

on top of the usual things, type countering and elemental resistance/ vulnerability

[eternal spindle]

where do you check the weather?

oh in each stage, nvm i see it
so u need coverage for this

[abstract sequoia]

when you select the stage, on the right side

[eternal spindle]

DeadAyaka

[abstract sequoia]

you can also check your enemies there btw

the mobs too

so you can prepare your teams in advance

[eternal spindle]

well started this patch so i basically only have 1 team that does any dmg

[abstract sequoia]

that's alright

[eternal spindle]

and it specifically counters my only team
fun 😭

[abstract sequoia]

which rank are you right now?

[eternal spindle]

a3

[serene crystal]

Yes currently FDD shill, sadly we just went off the HLE boss

[abstract sequoia]

ah and I assume you only have HLE and VBm?

for p2 valks that is

[eternal spindle]

pain

[abstract sequoia]

we've all been there

[serene crystal]

Definitely remember starting with only LP team and dying to physical weathers

[abstract sequoia]

just try to beat the mob stages for now

[eternal spindle]

so just stare at it? lol

[abstract sequoia]

beating 3 stages gives you the full crystal rewards

for your rank

[eternal spindle]

yeaaaa beating it is uh... a tall task
when 50% ice res

[abstract sequoia]

i know

but what if you get creative

[eternal spindle]

ICANT

[serene crystal]

Mob stages can be brute forced even with element down.

[abstract sequoia]

also that

[eternal spindle]

i tried, got 1700 points

[abstract sequoia]

have you tried VBm lead?

[eternal spindle]

how do you rotate?
also isnt the enemy have type counter against her?

[abstract sequoia]

type counter is -30%

weather is +50%

also idk what the mobs are

EU abyss didn't open yet

all i know is Litost is BIO

[abstract sequoia]

MECH guy dies, BIO thing can be hard yeah..

who's your third slot

[eternal spindle]

rc

oh i also have jds but its kinda irrelevant cuz got her in 1 pull no gear or anything

[abstract sequoia]

i mean technically Lightning isn't debuffed..

so VBs could do some work

[serene crystal]

VBs is also without weapon and most likely without stigs

[abstract sequoia]

it was just a thought

or we can go back to HLE. maybe your HLE rotation can be further improved

like trying to keep all of your buffs up consistently

still refreshing RC before SOing

[serene crystal]

Video of a HLE run would definitely help.

[abstract sequoia]

yeah

we also have a budget HLE rotation video in the pins

[eternal spindle]

i know how to do hle rotation dw

[abstract sequoia]

oh okay

i mean if you say so

if everything else fails, it's fine to sit this out

very unfortunate weather to start superstring on

next weather is quantum, which is kind of alright to go through in my opinion even if you lack quantum valks

you just have to familiarize yourself with how to collapse them

the boss does these kind of attacks relatively quick and most collapses are given through countering projectiles

[eternal spindle]

ill record a rotation ig

if im making mistake its good to correct it now so i wont make it in the future

[abstract sequoia]

yeah

that was also my thought process

[eternal spindle]

https://youtu.be/ROtQgQOVy1k

here

[serene crystal]

Ok, this definitely isn't happening with that damage even if you stayed on RC for too long.

[abstract sequoia]

yeah, damn

i mean you can still improve a few things, just won't lead to a different result

[serene crystal]

You just want to shift to her do wa CA and leave you don't want to do the followup

[abstract sequoia]

like RC's Total DMG taken buff from purple CA buff is the same as in the ult buff

[eternal spindle]

ouh okay i normally do that but it feel kinda wrong, ill stop next time

[abstract sequoia]

also at the beginning, HLE had enough SP for an ult volley. you can do that first and then instantly get 150 SP back with WA

[serene crystal]

What level is your weapon on HLE here?

[eternal spindle]

so i can either ult if i miss the qte, or if i hit the qte i just wa ca?

[eternal spindle]

65

[abstract sequoia]

qte on RC doesn't matter actually

granted, I'm not considering the Ice buffs

ult takes more time, but applies more buffs for Ice specifically

[serene crystal]

QTE refills the charges on her wa to get you to purple buff

[abstract sequoia]

oh yeah

[serene crystal]

else you need to basic and that is real time loss

[abstract sequoia]

true

vbm was great there, no complains

would've chosen the same opener

[abstract sequoia]

what about your dreamseeker skills?

[quick brook]

[eternal spindle]

oh i havent leveled anything there, i dont know what's going on in that menu

SOBS

[abstract sequoia]

it's fine, S rank doesn't have much anyway

you should just check that the damage buff skills are leveled

think of it as a support person that gives your entire team buffs

a bit more buffs inside Stellar Outburst

[eternal spindle]

uh the only thing available rn at S rank is healing and her own lightning dmg

[abstract sequoia]

yeah like i said

not much

both rank-ups are free though

[eternal spindle]

how do you get those? story?

[abstract sequoia]

through part 2 chapters 4 and the newest one right now

yeah

SS is a minor powerspike, SSS is very situationial

[eternal spindle]

ah okay
also the newest one? u can only get sss if u complete the newest one? this gonna take half a year

[abstract sequoia]

one rank-up is in the currently newest story chapter

but it's only really a damage increase against typeless enemies

and there aren't many that fit that criteria

Diabolic Kevin and Otto as an abyss boss comes to my mind right now, also Beast of Sacrifice in ER

Also Hellmaru

not like your damage is bricked or anything either, think of it as a long-term goal to play story

[serene crystal]

Villi-V

[eternal spindle]

so basically for now just do my best and just sit and wait this one out?

[abstract sequoia]

this cycle specifically, yes

your only viable main dps is countered by the weather

[eternal spindle]

what a great greeting for breakthrough
i was in redlotus 3 resets in a row in qmanifold 🥀

[abstract sequoia]

i mean with a full team, you could beat the mobs

also tomorrow you'll see exalted MA for the first time

[serene crystal]

I can try a VBm run and see how it looks and send the video once EU opens. If I can clear Nirv sidestage with it it should be possible for you to clear.

[eternal spindle]

fun 😭

[abstract sequoia]

2/3 bosses have SSS phases now

but those always come with a "buffed mode" option

which increases your damage as time goes on, so you can just clear the bosses

decreasing your score drastically, but you still get the crystals from the SSS clear rewards

you will rely on it more than a few times until you get more valks

but overall, you will gain war treasury materials properly through MA

and 1 prism per week

[storm lantern]

wtf dalao

[thorny belfry]

is there a calendar of upcoming events?

[serene crystal]

See pins in #💁gameplay-help and #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[novel path]

team for this abyss pls my fire teams are so bad, barely done the secondary stages in time, only had 30 secs to spare

not used to abyss with this much disturbance

[storm lantern]

fws sprokle ps probably

maybe jds over ps but i think ps having less personal damage more buffs will work out better

[novel path]

my jds gear is all unleveled dont have the mats for it

gotta be ps then

[storm lantern]

yeah ps

[novel path]

as badum will be the dps do i do her full wa

or still skip it?

[serene crystal]

Just got to pray that there aren't that many FDD havers in the bracket

You should do it if she is dps

It is a very large portion of your damage

[novel path]

the ones that played all have the full bis team xD

just want to get 0 trophies

just fighting to not demote

[serene crystal]

Kind of expected for RL, It is rare that you get a bracket with less then 7-8 persons with dps in my experience. Not having BiS means that you are fighting to not lose points

[glad ice]

for me, badum dps is like jds dps, rough

[novel path]

this is bad, i will get 600 score

gonna need to record the run im doing something real badly xD

also to inscrease the boss dmg taken i need to ignite the thingies on the evase phase right?

was so long that had to make it 720 instead of 1080p reso xD

i ulted mid phase to get the ignite from sparkle ult to badum, got 4 stacks only

[shell basin]

You’re spending too much time on your supports

And not enough on your dps

[serene crystal]

If you aren't getting the ignite in the first transition focus on buffing over what you are trying to do here

[shell basin]

Zero reason to do full PS combo

Just do qte wa to reset switch cooldown

Ult if avail

And then switch out again

That’s where you’re losing points

Your Badum isn’t actually dpsing

And yeah focus on the buffs at the start

[abstract sequoia]

you need to rethink your way of playing badum entirely

[shell basin]

It’s especially bad when it’s wasting the time wi th ignite buffs up after transition

^

[abstract sequoia]

not to be rude but you're playing like Kiana would explode from a charged meter

xd

also meter is charged much quicker by just doing basic attacks after qte. all you need to do after or before is one WA

preferably before

[outer spruce]

playing kiana like void drifter

[abstract sequoia]

basically yeah

as for PS, really no reason to spend so much time on her when fire is actually the damage that's buffed up

just qte > wa for drain and buffs, maybe ult and out

sparkle shouldn't CA, too much time wasted

only do gun

the transition ult idea was alright, I do believe that you can hit 5 clones at once though

[shell basin]

But then you want to have SO ready (or at least Badum to DPS) after so you aren’t wasting the buffs

As is the transition buffs are being half spent buffing PS combo to still do no damage

[novel path]

alright gonna apply all that

and try again thanks \3

alright i think i did much better but still only did 600 score xD, so used to do the sparkle combo that gonna take some tries to stop doing it, think this run i done it 2&3 times still

and yeah it was possible to hit 5 clones

in this run

[shell basin]

I think I would still use SO in part 1

Thats still losing you points. Badum dpsing is better tho yeah

[novel path]

alright gonna grind the hell out of it tomorrow after work, i barely played this team need to practise it a lot

thanks everyone for the tips again ❤️

[serene crystal]

If you can't get more ignite in part 2 transition then rebuff you are not getting anything from FWS trying to dps while he is invulnerable

[novel path]

true, forgot about that gonna try getting the ignite first evade and buffing on the others

[storm lantern]

well u still need to attack so u get ari

just dont use susani

assuming u do p1 ring

[serene crystal]

Also in SO you don't want to stack the enhanced QTEs that way unless you can kill right away. Just finish FWS dps sequence WA shift to first support back to FWS second support to maximize buff uptime.

[novel path]

thanks omg it makes much more sense

[glad ice]

why dont u do fws basic + power WA after SO?

i meant, if u also do that outside SO, why not do it inside SO, while, welp, having more dmg?

[frigid osprey]

This is all I got for masters abyss is this okay

should I be trying to do fdd leader with vbm

[storm lantern]

well for masters abyss you generally have 1 gacha valk

[maiden garden]

I can't even clear stage 1 with paws hle vbm

Should I just give up on this rotation or am I just not trying hard enough

A3 btw

[shell basin]

Record? It’s probably a rotation issue

[maiden garden]

It is to an extent
I'm running out of buffs

Do you have a reference with this team I can follow or no one uses it?

I set up vbm buffs but by the time I get to the eba they run out
And i think helia loses her ult stacks when switching?

[shell basin]

She does

I can do a rotation for it but it’d be on a different stage so you’d just be copying the general strategy

I don’t remember, does your weapon active reset your SP to 100

Or should I just do basics when recording for you

[maiden garden]

I don't remember it

Will have to check

[maiden garden]

Thanks

Yea a general strategy would be nice to follow since it's harder than hle to keep the buffs on

[maiden garden]

I was 90 sp used wa not hitting any enemy and the sp didn't change

For using wa on enemy I went from 47 to 114

[shell basin]

Ah okay then

[maiden garden]

Btw can't use helia eba twice without two symbiosis supports right?
I remember someone saying that earlier

[shell basin]

In stellar outburst

In normal rotations you only ever use it once

Even with 2 symbiosis

[maiden garden]

Yea forgot to say it

[shell basin]

Alright I’m uploading, included both the out of stellar outburst rotation and the stellar outburst and the one immediately after SO

You can ignore the dodges at the start, they’re not bad but you don’t have anyone with ignite to take advantage of it so it’s not really critical

It’s just force of habit

[maiden garden]

Thanks a lot

[maiden garden]

I see

[shell basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAyVOFbeFkk

the WA ult with HLE is just for stellar drain, you don't actually have to do it because the qte applies buffs (as you can see at ~55 seconds) but you might want to anyway because your HLE is a larger portion of your DPS

given paws is wepless

[maiden garden]

Discord telling me how the team is for this abyss

[maiden garden]

I see

[shell basin]

There's some advanced techs you can do like basic attack sequence cancels on paws or doing HLE qte, skip stellar drain, VBM jump attack WA before a helia cycle and then doing VBM first the next time, so you can fit in a 4th ult more cleanly

but these are less important than having the basics down

[maiden garden]

Oh so i don't use hle ult in so at all with what I have

Thanks for this

I think I was tryna fit in more than one eba per vbm buff application which resulted in buffs running out

[maiden garden]

Makes sense

I'll try to get the general rotation down
Reread the kits when I'm more free and try to use some of them

[shell basin]

yeah you ideally want 3 ults, combo, 1 ult

but getting the combo is the important one

[deep steppe]

I need some help. Is there a way to find out what chapter I'm at?

[shell basin]

In part 1 or 2

[deep steppe]

Part 2. As of right now I only see 2 Chapters and I don't know which I've done.

[shell basin]

Bitterness and Banquet are ch 1-3 side stories. Click on one of them and then look at your quest list to see what’s completed

Would be my advice

[deep steppe]

Ah, the only one I completed is Banquet Dance of Shade. I think they just have extra rewards.

[austere phoenix]

banquet - ch1ex
bitterness - ch3ex
non-stop - mini-game
investigation - ch4 mini game
to none - ch7ex
yet the - ch9ex

[unreal edge]

Hi! What teams are suitable for newbies in today's Q-Manifold? I played Coralie-dragon, Coralie-puppy and Elysia-HLE, but barely completed the boss stage. Sooo loooong...
No other Pt2 valks except for Thelema and VBs without their gear.

[sweet flax]

What's the weather in q-manifold? Im assuming fire but it doesnt always match superstring

[unreal edge]

Yeah, fire+15%

[sweet flax]

I would use fdd as the dps for now, vbm and hle to support her
While vbm can support her properly since fdd needs roo valks as supports hle is a cope support but your only other option atm

[unreal edge]

I'm definitely doing BFD rotation right, after VBm's triple E and Elysia's combo + E + Hold Ult, but it seems Elysia doesn't do any buffs

[shell basin]

HLE's buffs come from qte

and then you want wa-ult for stellar drain and damage

[sweet flax]

Elysia combo? You just need to qte (can weapon skill > ult, but not needed afaik)

Also vbm triple e loses you a buff, you arent applying the vulnerability unless you do a jump attack followed by a weapon skill

[shell basin]

if you need ring

but only once per cycle

[unreal edge]

wa-ult? What's this?

[shell basin]

Weapon active -> hold ult

[sweet flax]

Elysia's ult after a weapon skill consumes her stellar drain which charges your ring

[unreal edge]

Okay, thanks

[sweet flax]

You can only consume stellar drain once per outburst though

[unreal edge]

I believe I just skipped Jump + atk moment on Coralie. I actually don't do combo atk on Elysia as a support, just forgot about this

Thanks alot, I'll try a couple runs later

[shell basin]

np. If you're still struggling you can record and we can see about advice but hopefully that works

[sweet flax]

Btw I assume youre already aware but doesnt hurt to make sure
Dont switch off of fdd during stellar outburst

[unreal edge]

I hope there'll be no need )
I just thought Coralie needs Jump+ATK only to get a stack to complete three weapon actives

[unreal edge]

Yeah, surely. It lasts very short

[shell basin]

It does do that but yeah the slamming hammer into the ground also debuffs the enemy

[sweet flax]

Ye, the go to on her is 2 wa (doesnt need to hit an enemy) jump attack weapon skill (the ground smashes) on an enemy to get your 3rd stack and apply vulnerability

[unreal edge]

Not much time even to get 3 ult stacks and make a big Ult

[sweet flax]

Then to reapply buffs either enter stellar outburst or just switch, jump attack weapon skill again (refreshes stacks)

Preferably leave vbm qte off though to make this faster

[shell basin]

they're usign a different team

oops quoted wrong person

[sweet flax]

Btw they're also in q-mani, youre in exalted
They cant match your damage

[eternal spindle]

there is no dmg 🥀

[sweet flax]

have you already tried vbm as the dps?

The weather in abyss heavily nerfs ice damage while boosting fire damage

[eternal spindle]

she got type counter and i kinda cant do any dmg 😭

i mean i can try if there is a rotation?

[sweet flax]

Not much different from what youre doing now, instead of applying buffs for hle, you do it for vbm

[eternal spindle]

oh yea mb i was replying to a msg that wasn't recent

[eternal spindle]

so i still use rc?

[unreal edge]

Thanks for Elysia team video btw, I got saved it 🙂

[sweet flax]

Hmmm id say vbs is a better option, but she doesnt have any real buffs for vbm outside counting towards vbm's leader skill

Since her buffs are limited to lightning/World star

[eternal spindle]

so i just dont use her?

[unreal edge]

No, but she has 3* stigmas and not fully upgraded weapon

[eternal spindle]

and do i onfield vbm?

[sweet flax]

Meant to speify, you have fdd they dont

[sweet flax]

Tl;dr swap into her, use weapon skill, switch out

[sweet flax]

Yes

[shell basin]

happy I could help

[unreal edge]

QTE is already off btw

[unreal edge]

Oh, sorry, i lost the conversation thread

[sweet flax]

No worries

Just making sure you dont use vbm over fdd accidentally

[unreal edge]

lol, it would be too sad

VBm barely does any damage even from Ult

[sweet flax]

It's still worth trying

When I came back from hiatus I saw more benefits to using vbm over mmg in fire weathers compared to brute forcing with thelema

[unreal edge]

Btw, what is better to do in VBm's ult? Wait a bit or just spam Q?

[sweet flax]

Wa > ult > wa

[sweet flax]

Yes spam q during the ult

Also you never use vbm ult

Unless its the first thing you do

[sweet flax]

Then you do this

Her ult loses time and deals no damage, recasting weapon skill reapplies buffs faster

[unreal edge]

So it's useless even with VBm as a DPS, i see, thanks

[sweet flax]

Not sure in dps cases, but for supporting theres no benefit using it over other things

Would have to try

[unreal edge]

Offtop: btw I'm also PAWS hater, she just looks the worst of any valkyrie in the game

[sweet flax]

I love how she looks, I hate the valk in terms of abyss/meta

[unreal edge]

BUT BFD/FDD "needs" her to get +20% damage buff from the leader ability

[fallen shale]

After I get to SSS VBS should I work towards SSSing the other asterite valks or should I get the VBM wep synergies

I am still using VBM cause I don't have vita but I have FDD

[sweet flax]

If you actively see use from vbm I would suggest doing so

But

[unreal edge]

She just looks like an evil granny with big eyebrows, no?

[sweet flax]

Dorm levels take priority, so it depends really

[fallen shale]

SSSing the other asterite fragment valks gets me more dorm level right?

[sweet flax]

Yes, you can check in the dorm as well how much bonus you get for ranking them up

[shadow gyro]

sorry i didn't read this convo but i assume ur talking about fdd needing paws which is incorrect
although in terms of bis use yes she's very good with her
but fdd also got lp, hofi with dkey and vbm

[sweet flax]

Iirc sp valks give bonuses for the intermediate ranks as well
So you dont need to sss them because cost to return is lower but rather stick to s > ss range

[fallen shale]

any priorities or should I just go by whim

[sweet flax]

I just want to add incase it wasn't obvious yet, the only time fdd NEEDS paws is in nirv, redlotus you already deal a lot of damage that scores won't differ heavily

[shadow gyro]

also imma say im one of paws biggest fan but yeah im still on point to what i said in the last msg

[fallen shale]

I like paws (not her design tho, hope she gets a skin)

[shadow gyro]

yes
bis teams is for nirv only

rl is fine as long as you can deal with mechanic

[sweet flax]

Uhhhh I mean not really all sp valks are pretty eh

Eden probs the best of the worse if you need the para trauma for coping (assuming geared), or ta for p1 physical in ma

[shadow gyro]

nah fdd really needs a new skin sm but i digress

[fallen shale]

I do still occasionally do the SI TA Carole thing in MA

[sweet flax]

#🎮honkai-chat

[shadow gyro]

sns? you don't have her gear don't you

[sweet flax]

We entertained the conversation a bit, but since its still dragging im gonna stop it here before this chat stays off topic

[fallen shale]

yeah no but it's not like any other cope team I have has gear

[shadow gyro]

i mean its fine to mess around in the ss boss esp when you don't have enough valks so its okay

[sweet flax]

Btw that team only works if geared properly

You're better off brute forcing

[fallen shale]

isn't that brute forcing

I don't have a lot of valks to work with lol

[shadow gyro]

its alr

[sweet flax]

No thats called trying to adopt a strategy with 3 supports where you lack gear ranks and damage to properly replicate losing you score in the process

[shadow gyro]

the important thing is the crystals from the sss bosses anyways

[fallen shale]

I have also been doing hohe thel teams lately but that is also entirely gearless

[sweet flax]

Doesnt have any

Oj wait

I thought you said ss

My bad

[shadow gyro]

[fallen shale]

bruh lol

I only do the funky gearless teams on SS

cause I send all of my geared valks to SSS

[shadow gyro]

that's fine

[fallen shale]

like I think literally all of them

[unreal edge]

Thanks, I'll try to get one of them somehow. HoFi can drop from Dorm supply I believe

[shadow gyro]

don't use crystals on dorm

also ur likehoodness of getting a special valk in there is very slim

[shell basin]

if you really want hofi you can get her from reserve works but shes worse than dkeys for meta

[shadow gyro]

she's just a suggestion if you alr own her

[sweet flax]

Would also need you to pull her dkey (not a bad dkey, but hofi is basically replaced especially next patch, so competitively not worth pulling)

[fallen shale]

oh the SS boss this week is one of the phys shills 🫠

[unreal edge]

Had pretty low damage on BFD but I did it a bit wrong, without jump attacking on VBm

[shadow gyro]

how about showing me what p2 do you have instead to see what are we working with?

its also not out of the realm of possibility that new RoO valks show up in the future if you don't have a full team for FDD

[sweet flax]

Fdd hle vbm
Gearless mps vbs

[unreal edge]

Not many, only starter Coralie and Helia, BFD, HLE and Thelema with no gear

[fallen shale]

||next valk isn't, right?||

[sweet flax]

Next valk is ||img/lightning wod||

[fallen shale]

oh what

oh OK lmao

[unreal edge]

Exactly this team, yeah

[shadow gyro]

ah i see
you may not have a full team for fdd which is a pain for rl and such but its doable in agony and below
or can just brute force with fdd support

[sweet flax]

Holy fuck phone autocorrect

Why is it changing ring names

[fallen shale]

you scared me for a second there

cause idk if I can afford the next valk

[shadow gyro]

back pulling wont help, this is just a temporary feeling since your still recent
but its fine

[sweet flax]

Priority usually goes for cny anyways (8.7 almost definitely) so if you cant afford next patch its not the end of the world if you skip it

Unless youre in nirv, then youre cooked

[shadow gyro]

eh is glb beta up?

[sweet flax]

Well the valk was announced just not her kit no?

[shadow gyro]

yeah
so u may need to spoiler just Incase

[eager niche]

how do I get more of these without doing material return😭😭 I do all 10 stages every week, but don't get a lot

[unreal edge]

I even tried to switch the leader from BFD to HLE and even on fire weather she did not much worse, lol

[sweet flax]

[shadow gyro]

bc i think only her name was teased

[fallen shale]

I am currently just barely getting into RL unless 6 people show up with over 800 points in the next day

[sweet flax]

If youre ingame mind checking the announcement for the glb beta incase

[shadow gyro]

aha because fire weather has ice disadvantage

[fallen shale]

Glb beta is up already

[sweet flax]

It is?

[shell basin]

really?

[fallen shale]

I think it is?

[unreal edge]

I don't, I'm not crazy.
I even did not use first 200 crystals on tutorial Dorm pull, skipped this part intentionally

[fallen shale]

I might be misreading the announcement lol

I just assumed they didn't let me in

[shell basin]

Signups finished but I dont think the beta went out

[shadow gyro]

ig ill check the game if you give me few mins

[fallen shale]

Oh so it's not joever yet?

[unreal edge]

but some time I'll gather them all. Mb in 2-3 years

[sweet flax]

It isnt yet

[fallen shale]

ok mb I didn't mean to spread misinformation >.<

[sweet flax]

Announcement just mentions hoyo opened 8.6 beta registrations

[sweet flax]

Tldr Just valk + name announced

[shadow gyro]

honestly i won't be concerned about that
yes the alternative takes long but they all become farmable
besides dorm valks are either out of the meta or in the edge of being kicked

for your ingame progress you're already doing pretty well

[sweet flax]

More like 4-6

[shadow gyro]

just try to bare with 2/3 fdd until we get a new roo valk

[unreal edge]

I don't want to get anyone from reserve works, only weapons for valks I have

[fallen shale]

I'd love to stop using vbm one day

[shadow gyro]

or maybe if there's a raffle or carnival for paws or lp but that's heavily context reliant
for agony and pre breakthrough cases your 2/3 FDD team is already good enough

[sweet flax]

Fdd weathers are infrequent either way
She literally has 2 bosses no?

Bene and bread

[fallen shale]

one that's running right now isn't it?

[frigid osprey]

Im in masters memorial arena now what teams should I use.. only hle, hohe, vbm, fdd, thel have their sig gears

[unreal edge]

Thanks. Anyway, there are a lot of useful SP valks for asterite that are much stronger than Dorm valks even as DPS

[shadow gyro]

yeah
but i see that they're concerned bc hle is their only other dps

[sweet flax]

Litost is her boss

[shadow gyro]

thel is wpless n vbm n vbs are supports

[unreal edge]

The difference was not very big though, 2 min on BFD vs 2.5 min on HLE if i recall

[shadow gyro]

they can be decent bruteforce for some situations yeah
especially rc and ta which are good cope options

[sweet flax]

Mind taking a screenshot of the ma bosses

[fallen shale]

btw why does CNY take priority? What usually happens then

[sweet flax]

Fkn paros again?

[unreal edge]

Fun fact is it's MASTERS redlotus where I always got to top-5 with HLE on other weathers

[sweet flax]

Keep hle and fdd on boss 1
Boss 2 you'll have to cope/bruteforce
P1 physical on boss 3

[shadow gyro]

oh so this is q mani
then i would care even less about 2/3 FDD

but if you're struggling with anything feel free to record a run or check the boss strategy page

[frigid osprey]

what stuff should I put on TA

[shadow gyro]

what stigs that you have that isn't taken by the p2 valks?

you can screenshot

[unreal edge]

Anyone can sign up for beta, right? Or are there any requirements? I utterly want to test next-to-next patch valk (8.7 i believe)

[shadow gyro]

you can steak mpe's stigs if you're not using her in the ss boss

[sweet flax]

There are but not that hard to achieve

[fallen shale]

I mean they let me in and I started the game this year

[shell basin]

should be anyone who plays yeah, there will be a survey in game

[fallen shale]

they let me in before I was even lvl 80 lol

[frigid osprey]

should TA use the same ones?

[shadow gyro]

yes if you're not planning on using mpe on the boss
since you won't be able to share the set if you ise both valks

[frigid osprey]

i probably will but i can make more for her

[shadow gyro]

do you mind if you show me the rest of ur stigs since the first picture cuts its off

[shadow gyro]

hmm i see no extras then

im not sure about making more tbh

since even if you get it the score for ss won't actually matter for you

the important thing are the sss bosses

[unreal edge]

Thanks, i'll look for this page (or is it on other sites like marisaimpact?)

[shadow gyro]

the strategy page is ingame

you wanna click on the enemy before entering the battle to view it

there are ingame tutorials too for stuff like qte or qua for example if you need to know

[unreal edge]

oh thanks

[frigid osprey]

should I just put some random stuff on her then lol

[shadow gyro]

yeah sure

[frigid osprey]

right now all my phys characters are very low investment so I just want them to be able to clear at least

[shadow gyro]

the only thing you'll get from the ss boss is extra ranking anyways

[unreal edge]

You mean interactive tutorials? I've already completed most of them 🙂

[unreal edge]

I'll check mine in a bit. She has just free stigmas from Starter's manual or gacha exceed drop

[frigid osprey]

I do not have those unfortunately

[shadow gyro]

oh you are a returnee?

[frigid osprey]

yes

[sweet flax]

Craft glut t BTW

Like 2 of them

Can check if you can make fhm mb, or turg tb

[shadow gyro]

ill be honest with u i have like 2 or so if it but i have only ever used 1
but yea the stig is pretty useful and cheap so its a decent idea

[frigid osprey]

[shadow gyro]

jin tm is good cope stuff too
but prio dkeys and extra ether fuel for foundry first

[shadow gyro]

it takes time to farm the stones anyways
just do it later and make use of your time swirl tickets

you can also ask for stones in an armada

[frigid osprey]

where do the red/purple things come from?

[sweet flax]

For elemental only

Iirc

[sweet flax]

Musician not margrave

[unreal edge]

Nice? Pretty cheap setup. Carole will be replaced soon with Palatinus Equinox when I craft her weapon. Griseo can use craftable Pledge of Sakura cross

[shadow gyro]

its still a decent cope piece
since they may have situations that can use it

[shadow gyro]

can farm purple lens from OW
can get red lens from elysian shop and ER deep sequence
theyre both in the shop too but you may need the currencies for other stuff

[frigid osprey]

Yeah i can make those

[sweet flax]

Only mb

[shadow gyro]

like u can get purple lens with asterites but you have other stuff that would like asterites too

[sweet flax]

Then use glut t

[frigid osprey]

I assume I should be farming them right

[shadow gyro]

from OW sure if you're gonna farm something that needs it, you can farm other stuff from OW too
the red one is nice to get anyways

if you're not going for stamps in the ER shop then you'll have a decent amount of ER coins

not a high prio tho until you're farming a set for foundry asap

actually i think events give red lens too?

hm no i can't see it in the main event shops

but regardless i don't see you needing to rush these

at least get some ether fuel first

[unreal edge]

Are there any better VBm builds? Except for her prism stigmas, they're too expensive

[shadow gyro]

teri gluttony t fhm mb mainly as a cheap alternative

[shell basin]

I feel like thats worse than rouald, you're spending way more than 10sec dpsing with fdd

[shadow gyro]

this can be fine also

[unreal edge]

Thanks! I got them all

[shell basin]

and glut is hard to trigger for vbm

[unreal edge]

Gotta craft the M stigma someday, never seen it

[unreal edge]

I'm just trying different setups to get the last 100 crystals in Q-Manifold 🙂

[shadow gyro]

since u have the teri + fhm i would focus on that more

[shadow gyro]

since the pic i send is for dps vbm

[unreal edge]

Yeah, thanks, I'll try, they're already upgraded, used by RC now

[shell basin]

if you're using FHM and Teri

[unreal edge]

Okay, I see

[shell basin]

remember to go HLE -> vbm -> fdd

instead of VBM -> HLE -> fdd

otherwise the buff timer will be wasted on hle damage

[shadow gyro]

oh is that fdd dps with hle as leader bonus?

[shell basin]

I think fdd as dps with fdd leader?

[unreal edge]

No, FDD is the leader

[shadow gyro]

i mean for hle to trigger part of fdd's leader that wants any astra ring character

[shell basin]

yeah I assume so, dark lord buff stronk

plus hle gives some unconditional buffs

[frigid osprey]

Is it ok to just use time swirl passes or like should you only use them sometimes

[shell basin]

use them. It's more efficient to use them when grinding mats for stigma or dkeys than just for ether fuel but it's fine to use them

thats what theyre for

[shadow gyro]

always use them for the ether fuel n stone bonus
but it depends on what you're farming

[frigid osprey]

Okay

[shadow gyro]

for either fuel farming stage 6 is suggested

[unreal edge]

Thanks, very useful tips. I'll try to play in the evening since the game goes crazy while run with the browser open

I need lots of G1 stones for now. Should I farm for them on the floor 2 or 3? What would be more efficient overall?

[shadow gyro]

2

[shell basin]

floor 2

[frigid osprey]

also Ive been holding onto these cause I know the valks at least arent that useful but should I choose anything

[shell basin]

floor 2 is better than floor 3 even if u need g1s and g2s, its sad

[shadow gyro]

the first one doesn't matter tbh
the second got a pinned faq for it

[frigid osprey]

if its this one the options arent 1:1 same

[unreal edge]

yeah, there're more G1 on floor 2 but I need G2 and ether fuel after this one. So maybe farm floor 3, it would take more attempts but more useful stones in a progression?

[unreal edge]

Ok, thanks!

[shell basin]

better to do one run on floor 2 and one on floor 4 than 2 on floor 3

even if u need both

so just do floor 2 now and 4 later when u have a better team

[shadow gyro]

alot of the valks in the egg aren't in elysian realm and won't give much of anything so i would pick the ones that are in er like SK or VE for example
but at the same time theres no rush picking one as you need to farm WT and you might get an s rank from dorm and you would prefer not getting a duplicate just because you picked early

[frigid osprey]

Okay Ill continue hanging on then

[shadow gyro]

btw what do you wanna use the stones on?

[unreal edge]

Thanks but it's not about the team, I complete any early stage in less than 10 seconds. Maybe only 6-7 are longer. But no matter how long it takes, rewards are the same, right?

[shadow gyro]

i would focus one one thing at a time

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[unreal edge]

Sakura cross for Griseo and +10 ATK

And then couple of G2 stigmas, I don't remember their names

[shadow gyro]

then do g1 first until you can unlock sakura

[unreal edge]

Okay, thanks a lot!

[shadow gyro]

you can get the stigs after sakura granted your either fuel isn't low

[unreal edge]

BTW are Palatinus Equinox's weapon + stigmas worth crafting (for PE+Prometheus+whoever team)?

[shadow gyro]

no

only go for the gear if you love her
but its not like you have the resources for her so i won't

[unreal edge]

ohh, i'm crying ( Already have farmed a lot on them

[shadow gyro]

PE is long off meta

[unreal edge]

She was the best one I got from Dorm banner I believe

[sweet flax]

Trio rs, ||and now rita|| ye pe is long gone

[unreal edge]

Or are there any better Pt1 physical dps? I can't remember

[sweet flax]

No p1 physical has always been shit

In terms of investment

[unreal edge]

Okay. So I'll better keep using Carole though?

[shadow gyro]

i would argue that non from dorm really matter unless you alr own hoh or hofi dkey n u get their ranks
but as a i said dorm is rng and it takes time to get tickets for it so i won't care about who you may get
besides if you don't alr own PE then that's free dorm levels and ER crystals which is always a W

[sweet flax]

Is this regarding ss ma?

[shadow gyro]

or maybe if you like PE or dudu herself that's a personal preference W

[unreal edge]

This team, yeah SS MA

[sweet flax]

The only substitute I know of is hos

[shadow gyro]

there's non in the meta technically

i dunno if i can count hare...

[sweet flax]

Did horb steal summon aponia or not icr

[shadow gyro]

type countered

[sweet flax]

That's like dw's one boss

[sweet flax]

Ye but if horb does 50000x dw dmg I dont think a 30% dmg reduction means much

[unreal edge]

I own PE, she's my first S rank after HoV I got on second day of playing

[shadow gyro]

||maybe next patch there'll be one aponia for hare being added in reserve if hoyo cares about it but i dunno||

[shadow gyro]

i haven't tested so i can't say anything unfortunately

[sweet flax]

Tbf fov lv and dsa got fuck all from being added to bp

[unreal edge]

I don't really like most of Pt1 valk designs, Pt2 are much prettier if you meant this aspect

[sweet flax]

He means there are people who simp for a specific valk regardless and will get their best gear even if its a dumb move

[shadow gyro]

i dunno if ill count the bleed mecha boss as fuck all
since horb doesn't have access for someone to do bleed for the boss mechanic

[sweet flax]

Me included

[shadow gyro]

horb does have the dominance version but she obv doesn't take the lv version

fov was funny though i can't lie

[unreal edge]

It's not a good way of playing if you don't play for years already and have MOST OF the meta valks I guess

[sweet flax]

Then again bleed tribunal is lv's one boss

[shadow gyro]

sena was funnier outside of nirv

[shadow gyro]

im not a he but yes i meant that

at least you wanna collect the farmable p1 valks for ER and dorm levels anyways

[sweet flax]

I can tell you that it's the players perspective if its a good decision or not, im still using lantern to this day lol
The important thing is that im making sure not to force this on other players and if asked inform them that its stupid

[unreal edge]

My current goal in the game is to get and build enough decent valks to be prepared for unlocking lvl 81+

[shadow gyro]

the ones that aren't in ER don't matter tbh

[sweet flax]

Mb

[austere vortex]

Which character should I pick? and should I use my Crystals on the dorm supply? I'm new

[unreal edge]

Yeah, I'm hoarding tons of Ancient willpower to get most of them

[austere vortex]

the s-rank in 24 drops looks tempting