👶beginner-help

[shell basin]

Yeah that’s not terrible at all

You’ll miss the starter manual a lot since it gives a ton of free QoL resources but if you’re willing to put in the time you should be fine to stick with this account

[earnest pewter]

i'll try to get 40 more pulls for hle weapon since thats how much i need

thank

[shell basin]

Good luck!

[novel path]

do we know how many xtals/pulls were gonna get on 8.7 with the big spending event? i plan to pull rita and her weapon want to know if i will have 40k by the big spending xD

[primal heron]

use honkai calc

u will get more then the outcome from the clac

iirc the clac dosnt count event

and free stuff fron hoyo

[novel path]

thanks

damn i put starting with 0 crystals up until 1 january

will only get 12k hopefully we get some good events

need to decide about rita or not

if i dont pull her ill have 40k 100% sure

[proper quiver]

Am I ready for the big leagues 🙂‍↕️

[vagrant field]

Hey guys

Does anyone know what happened to Seele in the story?

[ancient needle]

Gotta ask that in #📚honkai-lore

[smoky palm]

Will any of these characters be a decent upgrade for my account
Azure Empyrea, Knight Moonbeam, Dimension Breaker, Phoenix, Goushinnso Memento, Blood Rose, Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade (from the Valkyrie Option Egg)

[outer spruce]

no, you can use Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Memento in ER but that's it, all of these valks are outdated otherwise

[smoky palm]

Will it be safe if I just choose the option to obtain some Ancient Willpower then

[outer spruce]

nah that's the worst option

unlocking valks for ER gives up to 620 crystals each

nothing in war treasury will be a decent upgrade for your account anyway

[smoky palm]

Oh alright then. Thanks!

[low ridge]

What rank is this

[proper quiver]

a3...

[shell basin]

no good teams huh

thats rough buddy

[low ridge]

So the big leagues are saying that you’re coming to agony two next week

[proper quiver]

luckily not

i got the holo trophies still

and next abyss is hle (i think) so im cooking

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-of-course-drake-lil-yachty-laptop-confused-understand-gif-13325798991723423204

[shell basin]

technically it's thelema abyss but HLE works

[proper quiver]

i have thelema 4/4 anyways

just gotta grind weapon mats to pri arm her weapon

[shell basin]

in that case you want thelema hle vita/sena

[proper quiver]

k

im gonna have to learn how to play thel 💔

[low ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161486452119572601/1385860676697723011/jvsxnu.gif

[low ridge]

Same I have her 4/4 but no idea how to use her

[lyric anvil]

Me and you are forced to use the same team probably

[shell basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvNgM9cFmVE&source_ve_path=MTc4NDI0 here's a video, tho its vita sena rather than hle sena

[shell basin]

Jokes on you I have thelema

[lyric anvil]

What support other than HLE

[shell basin]

uhh lemme check banner times idk if I will have hohe dkey soon enough

[proper quiver]

what different to this when using sena

[shell basin]

it's using sena, so same. Just replace vita buff cycle with hle

[lyric anvil]

Sena doesn't hit the field

[shell basin]

hle applies buffs with wa or qte

so she should be faster than vita

[lyric anvil]

Do see some rots where after SO you switch to her and just Ult then swap to your other support or dps

[low ridge]

Is vita s2 good

[proper quiver]

for wod yes

[quick birch]

in wod you also gain some extra buffs if you cast ult

[shell basin]

increases her team buffs

well you'd prolly want to ult anyway but yeah true ty mango

[quick birch]

it's nice yeah, though not necessary for RL and below and definitely not worth it to spend crystals for anymore

[proper quiver]

we all getting vita SS when asc banner comes around

[low ridge]

Well, I already have s2 two because I got an extra When I pulled for her

I just genuinely didn’t know if it was good or what

[proper quiver]

isnt it 2s time fracture when WOD is activated

[quick birch]

nah that time fracture on her WA is unconditional, and time fracture is only important in MA

in abyss it does effectively nothing besides slowing down the boss

[proper quiver]

oh thats piss

[quick birch]

there were some cases where you wanted that time fracture to trigger the qte of another teammate but that's very minor and nothing run breaking

[proper quiver]

why not make time fracture pause the timer in abyss

makes no sense

[shell basin]

Loa stonks through the roof

[lyric anvil]

Time Frozen Domain can

[proper quiver]

does hofi so pause it? because its 'absolute' time fracture

[quick birch]

yes

[lyric anvil]

Certain skills with FDD and PAWS can also

[proper quiver]

yeah her ult does for fdd ive noticed it

doenst hle hold ult also do it?

[quick birch]

only after her WA

[lyric anvil]

WA and Ult

Same with SO

[low ridge]

I’m taking it

[proper quiver]

now why are you in a2

also why is the disturbance so much lower omg

[low ridge]

lol I just recently breached and I didn’t know how the thing worked so I thought I just did the run and I just would rank up like I used to, but after like two weeks and I kept you ranking, I came into the server and explain to me

[proper quiver]

omg last abyss was my first

[lyric anvil]

That's Agony for ya

[low ridge]

But now I have a lot better understanding of it

[lyric anvil]

Also NA/EU are somewhat lower than SEA

[quick birch]

the disturbance between ranks can very a lot and SEA dist is prob also a bit higher than NA

[proper quiver]

im in a3 but mines nearly 500

[proper quiver]

why did i have to be born into high dist

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[lyric anvil]

SEA is a bit more competitive

[low ridge]

No, and most the time these people wait until like the last hour before they close and then they do the boss so that nobody can try and top their score

[proper quiver]

no ones topping my 100 score

[lyric anvil]

I'm NA and I can say they like to Slacc

[proper quiver]

they shouldnt even try

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/emma-frost-marvel-rivals-viggle-ai-exactly-i-told-her-gif-10932686104142604175

[proper quiver]

venom solos anyway

[low ridge]

Venom sneak

https://tenor.com/view/cynthia-cynthia-erivo-dagger-cloak-cloak-and-dagger-gif-8420831451314466261

[proper quiver]

all i can say is his new skin

[lyric anvil]

#off-topic-discussion

[low ridge]

Wait

[low ridge]

Wait we have to lock in

[proper quiver]

ice raven is gonna beat my ass i have a feeling

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jayylaurent-too-much-ice-thats-too-much-ice-i-said-light-ice-stateofgrce-gif-2396293023978456568

[low ridge]

Wait I need a team for it

[proper quiver]

look up through the conversation

theres a thelea, hle, vita run

[low ridge]

Wait I have that

But then I had to level up her weapon

[proper quiver]

i wish i got paws instead of sena on the starter banner

[low ridge]

I didn’t even know if she was good or not. I just did the free discounted 10 pull and I got her and then I got her weapon in the first ten also and then my luck decided to disappear and I had to go to pity for hle and her weapon and fdd and her weapon

[quick birch]

i mean paws is far from being there yet

[proper quiver]

paws was on banner when i started

but i chose to pull for sena because her yoyo was pretty

[lyric anvil]

Limited banner likely after FDD

[quick birch]

oh you just mean the normal banner thought you meant paws on starter

[lyric anvil]

Last patch I'm guessing

[proper quiver]

i cry everyday knowing i couldve had paws

[low ridge]

Right

[proper quiver]

yeah

[lyric anvil]

I mean- ||Sena's support uses might increase next patch||

[proper quiver]

we all cheered

[low ridge]

||Rita|| over here, bringing these ancient artifacts back from the dead

https://tenor.com/view/wicked-wicked-for-good-elphaba-elphie-elphie-fly-gif-17147154931463513331

[proper quiver]

Wdym sena dps clears every other character…

[low ridge]

I mean I think she’s f2p friendly or something like that

Oh my God, I forget that she’s a character like every week or two I never see anybody use her

[misty linden]

is senadina a limited character or could i get her from dorm banner?

[spiral badge]

You can check ingame if you go to the dorm supply screen and click on the dorm supply text (it's unintuitive but the banner art is clickable in this game. clicking on the characters on dorm supply will bring up their bios instead though)

short answer: sena is not on dorm banner

the only place she's been more available in are

• starter supply but this isn't recommended (check pins)
• past paid only battle pass but this is no longer available
• last year's carnival and raffles iirc?

[misty linden]

aw damn

[spiral badge]

as a valk get older and older we do expect them to become more available

but for a valk to be added to dorm or even made farmable in WT will take a much longer time

[misty linden]

sucks that valks are just,, unobtainable like that

[spiral badge]

it's for a period of time. If you're really itching to appreciate senadina, then keep in mind she's available in story or with her tutorials as a trial.

maybe in the future you may observe sena being more available via

• pyramid banner box selection
• paid anni selection box
  • i don't recommend any of the above though
• maybe even free from events

i don't guarantee any of this either. just citing other ways older valks have been available in the past

[frigid osprey]

Do Valks not have rerun banners?

[spiral badge]

they do. For long term f2p meta purposes this is almost never considered though. (and meta is significant for crystal income in this game)

You can check for the banner schedules in the pins of #💁gameplay-help (and in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for the next patch)

[frigid osprey]

thank you for the info!

[spiral badge]

if i need to explain anything further feel free to ask

[frigid osprey]

it is actually very good that you told me about the banner schedule, I want to get Peachy Spring and HoH divine key..

[empty marsh]

Is there any way to find these lil guys in APHO2? (Excluding the Openworld)

[spiral badge]

hm beware the full potential costs and your budget.

Peachy spring is already written on the schedule. I guess it's the discounted version (normally it would be 9600)

for hohe dkey do plan for the 60 roll/~17k crystal guarantee at worst

[frigid osprey]

Im not a huge whale but I dont mind spending money, I got HoFi from the dorm supply so is it worth to go for her divine key also?

[spiral badge]

not trying to ignore you but i genuinely do not know and did not find anything. sorry

[spiral badge]

if you want to plan long term and run into cost issues, maybe prioritize peachy springs outfit (it's older and having a discount so i feel less assured in it coming back any time soon)

as for hofi, for most players i do not recommend trying to catch up on older stuff since mileage and use cases are going to be less than picking up something more new

if you're a spender with extra budget and therefore aren't compromising on new release pulls as you do this, then it's fine to backpull as long as you're aware of what you're paying for

however beware hofi's best use cases has reduced greatly. She's mainly a world star or rite of oblivion support at this point. ||Her other roles as a dps or enabling HoO dps may be threatened by next patch's release||

[empty marsh]

no problem! ty for trying

[frigid osprey]

Okay, thank you sm again for the info I will probably skip on her key then, I dont really have a full team for her either

[spiral badge]

i assume by key you mean hofi's but yeah

keep in mind valks are multipurpose esp now so a single full team isn't everything to go by

[zinc ermine]

I've checked all stages/levels in AHPO2. Doesn't seem like there is any place to farm them besides RNG in the open world.

Though I have found the basic Wheel of fortune on the lower lvls of Submerged city (I think it was Floor 2) and it's variant Swords V on (Floor 13 & 30)

Unless the Wheel of fortune variants rotate each week in Submerged city, your best bet is just to check open world everyday.

I'm also checking submerged city every week. Only started this week to see if it spawns on floors 24+, will let you know if I do find anything.

Doubt it will since I've checked mulitple people's runs of floor 1-43 and only seen 2 of the variants spawn but who knows.

[spiral badge]

have you documented anything about this? I feel we do get semi occasional questions about people looking to complete apho2's collections so it would be nice to have a more affirmed resource

[empty marsh]

oh alright, ty! Guess I will just slowly pray for it to spawn in open world while checking submerged each week as well

[vivid path]

is it ok to send invitation code here or not?

[zinc ermine]

There should be a channel for invite links only

[zinc ermine]

Only have info on the ones I had difficulty getting

[vivid path]

i found it thank uu

[spiral badge]

would still be better than nothing if you're willing to put anything together

[waxen wharf]

So I'm still playing through part 1 so this likely doesn't mean anything to me right now. But what's the difference between battlesuit supply and AstralOp supply?

[spiral badge]

a battlesuit is the unit you directly control in battle

whereas an astral op or ELF is a 4th member on your team that you don't control directly. They instead provide mor passive effects, or an ult/outburst you can choose to activate when it's ready

the supplies are for getting each of those respectively, each with their own benefits depending on who they are

!faq supply

[small willow]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

for f2p meta purposes, a gacha op is not recommended

!faq gachaop

[small willow]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[waxen wharf]

oooh thank you! Yeah so I'm guessing that's part 2 stuff. I was thinking about pulling some new characters now for when I do get to it because well. I'm cranking through part 1 suprisingly fast but I'll continue holding off on it

[spiral badge]

story wise you really don't need to pull anything

at some point in part 1 you'll be restricted to trials to use for story immersion purposes

[waxen wharf]

Yeah that's what it has been doing. Which honestly I actually like

[spiral badge]

getting anything from the gacha are more for

• competitive use in abyss/arena (abyss is a big source of your crystal income so alot of recommendations revolve around meta)
• elysian realm
• personal sentiments (bridge valk, etc)

if there's anyone in particular you're wondering about you can ask and i can elaborate more

[waxen wharf]

Nah. It doesn't look like I have nearly enough crystals to pull for anything anyways so I'll just continue ignoring it for now lol. I really appreciate the information though! Is definitely helpful

[spiral badge]

be sure to check out the pins for other info in the future

there's stuff like crystal sources or pull recommendations there

[waxen wharf]

Oh nice okay yeah they have all of that pinned here awesome. So astralops are definitely not going to be a beginner thing, if I use them at all. Got it focus on battlesuits and weapons when the time comes

[spiral badge]

astral ops are a default function and there's a default one you have (dreamseeker)

it's just that default one is good enough for most intents and purposes

but yeah for f2p meta purposes, new releases of the valk and her signature weapon together are the way to go

you don't have to pull every new release either, but just enough regularly to keep you afloat across the many scenarios in abyss

[lunar ridge]

Why does the game keep changing it's chapter setup 😭

[spiral badge]

i can't really answer why since nobody here is the dev of the game but new story additions to the game are treated as events

and in general new content in the game is often different in some way

[lunar ridge]

I see…

It’s just new setups every few chapters is confusing me

[spiral badge]

feel free to specify if you need help with a particular chapter but yeah that's just how it is

[zinc ermine]

True, tho I feel like I'm way too lazy to make a polished guide for it unless I get a random surge of inspiration haha. If someone does decide to make one I can prob help

[spiral badge]

yeah i get that completely. Making a quality guide and even maintaining it is a ton of work. No worries if you don't end up doing so

but even if it's unpolished i feel it could be useful. Up to you how you want to go about it if at all

[glossy laurel]

what should i choose?

[lone crater]

u get them all eventually

but can go with gloves first

[kind hull]

if i use this ellie sig to make the domain of ego, is there any way to get another of it?

also, this bow is the thing needed to give HoH astral ring, right

[serene crystal]

No, you need flawless benediction for Astral ring

This one should be available from Reserve works if I remember correctly

You are only getting her d key from Gacha

[glad ice]

don't. the new bow will be on gacha at 5th dec
domain of ego is not astral ring and it will just be wasting your materials

[kind hull]

thanks

[cyan anchor]

who can be a support for s rank helia?

[kind hull]

how does divine key tuning work?

[maiden garden]

Do I need to do all world stages

Or just world 3 would suffice

[glad ice]

go back to previous chapters world and clear the specified ex-stage

[maiden garden]

So just world 3

I'm asking since I haven't done those stages for world 1 and 2 also

[glad ice]

there are normal weapons and divine keys. tuning divine keys then synchronizing them in dorm>divine keys will give u passive (and active - cost coin) buffs

[glad ice]

u cant continue if u dont

[cyan anchor]

does this work for every valk with astral ring?

[maiden garden]

So i have to do all 15

[glad ice]

clear
the
specified
ex-stage

[maiden garden]

...

And which one is that

Idk if that reffers to just the stage 5 of world 3 or not?

[glad ice]

yes each ring has their tag. in the picture its right below the name of the ring. below Grail of Infinitude is its tag Symbiosis

[sweet flax]

All 5 stages of an ex world

[glad ice]

tbh u should do all forthe % completion reward. its xtal

[maiden garden]

15(3)(2) is not worth it 😭

I'll do it when I'm desperate enough but definitely not right now

[maiden garden]

Why some of them hard...

I couldn't just button mash my way through that double elite stage

This is sad

[glad ice]

then just go deal with any ex-5 from previous worlds

not chapter, my bad, its inside the same chapter

[sweet flax]

Upgrade your suits with the gacha stuff, makes things easier

[maiden garden]

Doing that

[glad ice]

game isnt fun if u are only button mashing

upgrade valks/gear, learn their team who with who, their buff duration bcs if that run out u deal 0 dmg, their atk pattern bcs some atks deal big dmg and other dont

[maiden garden]

Well if I'm only sticking with those characters for like 1 chapter i wouldn't wanna learn everything about them

Sure I would try to learn how my team for abyss or ma works
But this is not worth it

[maiden garden]

What about this guy..

So much hp and I just don't do enough dmg..
Gacha giving me non bio character upgrades only
(Dont mind the Kiana she was lvl 80 so I tried her out but no dmg 😂)

[glad ice]

break the arms. it has 90% dr with 2 arms, 0 with 1 arm and -100% with 0 arm

[maiden garden]

And how do you specifically do that?

[amber finch]

by targetting the arms

[glad ice]

in the pic u re targeting the blue arm

the targeting circle is on it. u do that by tilting camera or with movement key toward the target

[amber finch]

it has 3 target points, the main body, the pink arm, the blue arm

you just switch the target to one of the arms

[amber finch]

by the way are you forced to use that team

since it quite literally makes no sense

[glad ice]

more likely higher lvl characters

[maiden garden]

I seee

Wish there was click to lock target mechanic 😭

[maiden garden]

Yup

[amber finch]

you can also change it from auto to free style

free makes it way easier to target something specific

[glad ice]

well just try holding the movement keys toward the target as hard as u can

just this guy has this annoyance. no wonder his name is a$$$ucker

[humble forge]

Hey, I wanted to try out Honkai Impact 3rd again after my last play from 2018, and it'd appear the game is stuck at "press anywhere to start". How to fix this?

[novel path]

is it worth pri ing key of ego for Hohe (low on mats)

[humble forge]

I had also linked it with hoyoverse, so... what now? The server available are only EU and US, trying to play this on android.

[novel path]

try repairing the client, on login interface u got on the corner repair try that

[humble forge]

I checked for broken downloaded assets, none broken

[serene crystal]

It not worth pri arming, you only use it as a cope option until you can get a p2 team to work

[novel path]

oh ok thanks

[amber finch]

#🔌technical-help

can try using a vpn

[amber finch]

just flat out ignore her tbh

no gears on hohe at all aside from koe

if you want an ice team then hle ps vbm

thel hle sena works too

[amber finch]

can use this on raven

[amber finch]

@novel path

[amber finch]

btw if you want to play in sea then you need to download a different cilent

[novel path]

thanks gonna hold until we get || rita || for pri ing it then, if i have enough for both ill do it then

[amber finch]

spoiler her name and again, pri-ing koe wont do much when you have no supports for her or her signature p1 stigmata

you’ll just make her go from adult elephant shit to like adult elephant shit but 2 years younger

[humble forge]

Dang. 28GB wasted?

[amber finch]

you can just delete it

if you dont want to then you can also just play on na/eu

[novel path]

i plan to pull her sig and stig as well

[amber finch]

your account is really old so its actually better for you to just make a new account

[amber finch]

then ignore koe?

why are you trying to pri it😭

it is not her p2 dkey for your information

oh btw her dkey is not recommended to pull for

unless you’re simping

[humble forge]

That's what the linking account did actually, no new characters. Yes, gonna play new game. Welp thanks for the help people

[novel path]

oh ok xD i wasnt trying to, thats why i asked but i thought u were sayign it was worth it xD

[amber finch]

i mentioned like 3 times that it was not worth it

[amber finch]

.

[amber finch]

.

[novel path]

omg i i misread hle for hohe

i was thinking u were suggesting hohe with sena

thats when i got lost xD mb

[amber finch]

fair

[novel path]

iyo whats the only worth dkeys to get for p1 valks?

i only got horb for now

[amber finch]

are you asking between the 3 stellar dkeys, which one is worth back pulling for?

if so then none

[novel path]

ok damn so already wasted on horb

should have asked this before

[amber finch]

not really since you got it on debut

seems like you dont even have horb tho so it was an interesting decision

[glad ice]

horb dkey isnt a backpull but do u have horb to use it

[amber finch]

+10 atk is cool and all but having geared valks are better

[glad ice]

aight. well spent xtal

[amber finch]

oh nice

[amber finch]

hle horb ps instead of vbm

[novel path]

oh damn niceee

not a waste after all

[glad ice]

rmb to watch tutorial bcs horb play different bw two forms

[novel path]

yeah tbh didnt play much with her besides the dkeys tutorials

we really need more content creators for honkai impact

i learn most about the games i play watching cc´s

wish honkai had more cc´s doing content for newbies

[amber finch]

you can always just ask here

[amber finch]

game’s probs too dead for them to commit

its quite hard to make relevant guides since hi3’s meta scene changes quite fast compared to other games

[novel path]

yeah true, tbh dont know how part2 didnt revive the game, feels like a completly different game comparing part1 and part2 story stages

[glad ice]

a lot of cc ik dropped since p2

they still do cc stuff but not for hi3

[raven bane]

is hle vita horb team any good

[glad ice]

vita doesnt work in hle team

[raven bane]

a

[raw geode]

Imgur has been pathetic recently. Want to post the entire account for returnee review since I might as well retire as I don't even have time for it, and Imgur isn't letting me doing it.
So yeah.

All marked characters are fully equipped except for Senadina.

[shell basin]

Are you asking what team to use?

For this abyss you want Paws dps with Badum peregrine sword support, it’s the BiS team, if that’s what you mean

If you’re asking how the account is doing in general it seems fine, you have supports for every ring and can make a proper team for any new release

[raw geode]

It's more to the "restart or keep" as with any returnee account question.

Also P2 Sushang is unarmed.

[shell basin]

I’d keep it, any newbie account will take forever to catch up with this one

Especially since you will have supports for next patch valk and they won’t

[shell basin]

Could use RS then, should be more than fine for agony

[umbral heart]

Hello guys I want to ask if I should still try to pull her? Or wait for her next banner? I think I still can do 25-30 pulls until her last day. Luckily I already got her weapon and 2 stigmata within just 10 supply cards.

[ancient needle]

That's the reason a lot of people left actually

Also the beginning of Part 2 had some bugs and performance issues

While it failed to attract newbies because the beginner experience was still ass

[sweet flax]

You're kind of forced to pull her if you want to make use of the weapon

Tbh since you wont have enough funds for next patch you might as well try for fdd

[mighty solar]

I’m not rlly a beginner (returnee actually) but i only have some part1 valks. I wanna build teams around HoHE(alr have her), Thelema, Vita and PAWS with 10k crystals in stock, how should i organize my pulls going forward? Like, paws likes dragon coralie so should i try or are there more important reruns coming

[oak sandal]

How much gems does a player need now to get to the costume in the gacha?

[sweet flax]

Does hohe have her dkey

Hohe vita thel is an actual team with the dkey

[mighty solar]

Nope unfortunately

[sweet flax]

!faq pyramid

[small willow]

Gacha Outfits

Be careful, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.

Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits

• DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
  • You need 9600 or 7680 if there is a discount.
• No competitive benefit.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[mighty solar]

But i’m willing to get it, however youre supp to get the dkey

I dont rlly care for meta that much

[sweet flax]

Im assuming you are already aware of the meta and how impactful it csn be crystals wise, do you have any competitive goals before I suggest anything

[mighty solar]

I mean i just wanna clear endgame comfortably

Dont care abt top of the leaderboards

[sweet flax]

Fair enough, is hohe dkey a goal of yours since you want to make hohe work? If so id roll for it in your position

[mighty solar]

Yes

Is the dkey its own supply or what how do you get it, is it like every other weapon, i just get lost every time in wpn and stigmata screens

[sweet flax]

Hohe lp paws and mps is a pretty strong foundation for an account, and with newer units you can easily retain redlotus as well (the competitive goal that we actually recommend reaching for higher crystal income per patch)

[sweet flax]

It's its own gacha, and will rerun after hle and fdd banners leave

#💁gameplay-help pins has the banner schedule

[mighty solar]

Ah didnt notice that in gameplay help, so i guess right after the current banners im pulling for that key

[sweet flax]

Yep, good luck with your pulls

[mighty solar]

Thanks for the help and i’ll need that good luck

Keys are only 60 pulls right so i only need 6800 more crystals and then i’m good. I noticed in the forge menu you use weapons to make signature weapons for their chars, did i get that right

So when i get the key i gotta use that to make Elysias dkey?

[sweet flax]

Weapon banner is indeed 60 pulls to garuntee
I believe you are referring to pri arms which are upgraded versions of a valks signature, and yes it requires its base form to unlock the pri arm

[mighty solar]

So i did get that right, i just have to not forget to do it after i pull her key

[sweet flax]

Not necessarily

You are gonna pull flawless benediction which is a dkey as well as elysia's new signature

You will tune it to make it a dkey and get the bonuses associated with tuning dkeys
And eventually pri arm it as a weapon for elysia to boost her stats

[mighty solar]

And you pri arm it in the same menu you used to “tune it to make the dkey”?

[sweet flax]

Hard to miss really its a big blue button that says tune on the upgrade menu

[sweet flax]

Tl;dr the weapon alone can only go to lvl 50

If you tune it, it becomes a dkey and can be pri armed into its dkey pri arm variant

When you pri arm it, its stats and level cap goes up (lvl 65) and you also get new bonuses via another passive on the weapon

[mighty solar]

So theres two changes to upgrade it to its final intended form

[sweet flax]

!faq tune

[small willow]

Should I "Tune"?

Sorry for the confusion, Captain!

The warning that appears for tuning is translated poorly. Tuning a weapon turns it into a [Divine Key](#👶beginner-help message) - the warning tries to tell you that...

When tuned, the weapon:

• Cannot be salvaged.
• Cannot be used to craft a PRI-ARM that is not its own.
• Can be used to craft its respective PRI-ARM.
• Gives you Divine Key bonuses such as +10 accountwide attack (see the Divine Keys Menu).

-# Please note that if you pull multiple copies of a Stellar Key (Part 2 Divine Key) you tune the one you will be upgrading - note that locked copies cannot be used to upgrade its Synergy level until unlocked, which takes 24h.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sweet flax]

!faq pri arm

[small willow]

PRI-ARMs

I'm here to help, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for information on what a PRI-ARM weapon is and the sources of Torus and SC Metal!

Costs:

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sweet flax]

Ye, tuning is free btw just gotta click the button

Also here's 2 faq that explains it a bit more since I gtg rn

Feel free to mention anything else youre unsure of

[mighty solar]

Looking at the pinned msg on supply calendars, it was sent two years ago. Damn didnt know cn was two whole years ahead

[serene crystal]

The original message just gets updated with the new version. CN should only be 4 weeks ahead

[mighty solar]

That makes more sense

I mean its still odd to me since my only previous experience with gachas were the other hoyo games and theyre synced with cn

[mighty solar]

How long does a version last

[ancient needle]

9 weeks on average

This patch specifically is 10

[mighty solar]

I see thanks

[floral sail]

Are any of these characters good?

[serene crystal]

No

[weary otter]

Chrono Navi is a good support character to gather enemies, Sugary Starburst can deal massive damage if set up correctly, Cosmic Expression is mid

But they all can be replaced very easily

[austere phoenix]

For a temporary usable non-ar team as newcomer, Kira is best pick out of 3

[weary otter]

Also to explain the term Support in Navi's case, she's off field damage, i still play her with Herscher of Finality pretty often, good combo

[abstract sequoia]

I wouldn't say that's the case for any content nowdays except when you're in very low abyss ranks and don't really care about meta

And I'm saying this as someone who tried this combo without any optimal gear, it sucked

[weary otter]

I know my gear and they work well especially with Starry Impression Griseo

[amber finch]

[abstract sequoia]

All 3 supports are very powercrept, only Kira has some niche use cases in SS MA. Even CE is kinda dead since Lunar Vow doesn't have any bosses left except for Lightning Tribunal

[abstract sequoia]

SI is a physical support...

[weary otter]

Yup and Herscher of Finality has 2 stances

[amber finch]

and neither of them are physical

[abstract sequoia]

[weary otter]

The sword one isn't? 😂🥲

[abstract sequoia]

no

maybe read her skills

[amber finch]

she’s a fire valk

[weary otter]

Gotta rework my squad then, lmao

[abstract sequoia]

everything she does deals fire damage

[amber finch]

you definitely dont know your gears

[abstract sequoia]

not knowing is fine

giving advice while not knowing however can be a problem

you might grief someone even if you meant well

[abstract sequoia]

that being said, we're still open to helping you with your squad

[weary otter]

I guess the best thing i can do is human: Ego rn

[abstract sequoia]

depends on the situation

also how good she is equipped

[weary otter]

Those are all my fully built troups (Except for the Stigmata on some)

[weary otter]

I'd say pretty good but not perfect yet, still pulling for a better bow

[abstract sequoia]

we consider valkyries as fully built if you own and maxed out:

• her signature weapon
• her newest divine key that replaced the signature weapon
• her newest signature stigmata

[weary otter]

I tought about using Pure Love's whisper if i manage to pull it, atleast as a replacement for now

[abstract sequoia]

please don't

aside from HoHe's dk coming in a few weeks, you only want to pull weapons for the valks they're meant for

that being Hi Love Elf

[weary otter]

Gotta pull her first then

[abstract sequoia]

only do that if you can afford both valk and weapon in advance

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[abstract sequoia]

look at the part 2 average and worst cases here to know how much you need

keep in mind that stigmatas are fully craftable

[weary otter]

My sentience is good tho, right?

I'm using Marco Polo on her

[abstract sequoia]

your Sentience is a few years outdated

like, the valkyrie is

[weary otter]

Oof 😭

But the build works for now?

[abstract sequoia]

the older valkyries are, the weaker they are

[abstract sequoia]

yeah marco polo is fine

it doesn't matter for the beginning

just remember that you will end up replacing everyone with part 2 astral ring valkyries

[weary otter]

Then i'll focus on her even if she might be outdated, i'll get her to work somehow

[weary otter]

I have 0 astral ring Valkyries as of now

[abstract sequoia]

i advice you check out this hyperlink in the pins

among reading the ones in bold text

[abstract sequoia]

you'll get there

2 are farmable for free

Valkyrie Blastmetal (Coralie) and Valkyrie Boltstorm (Helia)

the others are available through the gacha banners

you will get them over time, just keep my tip in mind to only pull them if you can afford them with their weapon

[maiden garden]

How do you get vbm weapon again?

[abstract sequoia]

By playing Part 2 Chapter 1

there is a BP-like progression thing there with a VBm dupe and her weapon very early on

[maiden garden]

Oh i think I saw it

Thx for letting me know

[abstract sequoia]

no problem

[weary rover]

She is old now

[weary otter]

Sad...

Well if they give them genshin treatment we might get buffs on old characters if paired with specific ones

[twilit junco]

i prob asked this before i sory
anything in this shop worth grabbing? or just all bait

[abstract sequoia]

The way hi3 works is that valks sometimes get a divine key to replace their signature weapon, giving them a second resurgence. This was the case for Herrscher of Sentience already with Brick being released
https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Incredibly_Infinite_Intimidator

this happened all the way back in 7.0, which released at october 26th, 2023

with that time passed, it is safe to say that its meta relevance long passed

so all you can really hope for is for Senti to get another battlesuit atp

[abstract sequoia]

everything from the bringer of light set

obtaining all of the stigmas gives you a special emblem with +3% Fire and Ice elemental dmg

one of the strongest emblems you can obtain outside Nirvana and Myriad

!faq emblem

[small willow]

Emblems

Hi Captain!

Emblems can be equipped on your profile. Some of them offer useful damage bonuses or increased pick-up range when you have them equipped, so it is important to know what the good ones are!

Some emblems have a limited duration, others are permanent. Abyss and ER emblem duration extends for each Abyss/ER cycle completed.

The Nirvana and Myriad Emblems offer a bonus 6 ATK when equipped as well as increased pick-up range. Stat bonuses from other Emblems are negligible.

Useful Emblems:

• Abyss Emblems (Myriad/Nirvana/RL/Agony, Best in general).
• Flame-Chaser Series (Best for ER).
• Subspace Annihilator (Situationally best for Physical runs).
• Bringer of Light (Situationally best for FoV runs where you don't want to pick up HP packs early but still need a damage emblem).

How to equip? See below!

[grizzled fractal]

need help building 2 teams (pref HoFi and HoHE)

Cuz i cant find any teams/builds online :(

Im a new player so i dont have that many valks

[floral sail]

What are the best remembrance's sigils for her?

[abstract sequoia]

Is this a LITE run?

[floral sail]

I got no idea what LITE means

[abstract sequoia]

basically you skip every floor up to the first major boss

[floral sail]

ah I see no

[abstract sequoia]

ah okay

[floral sail]

Is there like any good guides for elysian realm? Since it kinda confuses me

[abstract sequoia]

yes just check the pins

[floral sail]

ok thanks

[abstract sequoia]

second one

there's 2 builds for HLE, they heavily depend on which Elysia signet you choose

[floral sail]

I am at level 61 is it doable for me to clear hard bosses in elysiam realm??

[quick birch]

in elysian realm your valkyrie is levle 80 with all that she has available maxed so the level itself does not matter that much, generally your clearing time should be a bit slower than normal because your weapon isn't level 65 but with the right signets it's absolutely doable

[twilit junco]

wait which

[abstract sequoia]

!bringer of light

ah

one sec

all of these

[twilit junco]

holy so many

120k im poor

[abstract sequoia]

after you're done collecting them, go to Ai-Phone > Collection > Stigmata > Event Stigmata to redeem the emblem

[abstract sequoia]

it's possible to farm more through many different ways

#👶beginner-help message

check out this write up, it has every possible asterite source

some event shops also have asterite right now

[twilit junco]

can u not craft these?

[abstract sequoia]

no

[twilit junco]

i tried looking for them but i couldnt find

o
ggs

im guessing itll come back?

[abstract sequoia]

they were only timed exclusives, returning through time capsule

[abstract sequoia]

this is the first time it happened since they released

i would try getting them through any means possible

[twilit junco]

only able to get 2 of them lol from all the shops n sht

usually i run empty cuz i get characters lol

wasted 07

[dark eagle]

what is HoRB's rotation with astral build?

in ER?

[rustic walrus]

decay blessing + outburst and keep normal attacking, ult when it’s about to run out but usually u won’t need to make it through the whole string

[dark eagle]

got it thx m8, btw seele is strong against kosma yes?

[rustic walrus]

sorry i wouldn’t be too sure bc i always just do elysia boss out of muscle memory i don’t even remember kosma mechanics

[kind hull]

who should i get in the valk egg?

[dark eagle]

i see

[dark eagle]

i dont suppose kebin has any weaknesses other than make sure u dodge yes?

[burnt latch]

is hohe for free??

[serene crystal]

Yes she is available for logging in a certain number of days during the patch.

[burnt latch]

in how many days? I'm new and it doesn't show up for me to claim, I don't know if it's because of my level or because it already ended

[serene crystal]

Have you unlocked the event tab? It is definitely still live.

[burnt latch]

I did

[serene crystal]

This is how it should look

[burnt latch]

Ah, I see, I think it's because I'm low level, I'll try leveling up, but thanks!

[molten shoal]

is there a pt. 2 character i should particularly focus on getting? i have durandal sushang elysia + horb weapon

im just not sure who to prioritize + whos outdated or not (even in pt 2)

[serene crystal]

Really just focus on getting the new patch character + weapon. There generally isn't anything more valuable then just getting them and unless you are spending it is hard to consistently get more then that.
You do mean Hi Love Elf when you say Elysia right?

||Next character is WoD so you already have useable supports so you should be fine|| [CN News]

[hardy lintel]

Is this good?

[molten shoal]

yep yep i do, i also have all their weaps except sushang unfortunately bc i was lazy, but also bc i don't feel like investing that much into her

im just curious bc as good as ||rita|| looks i think i would probably still skip her so what would be my alternate choices? coralie?

[shell basin]

Not really, there’s no modern greatsword users and even if there was they’d want their sig. you can use it as a stat stick in ER tho

[serene crystal]

I would not recommend getting FDD with your characters as you don't have supports for her so you will lose on her weathers anyways and I would not pull purely for support value even if she often is slightly better then other options.
Everything not on patch is a lot worse since you lose out on all of the on patch valks weathers, if you skip you do it to make later patches more consistent not to backpull something else.

[molten shoal]

who even are my supports for ||rita||? i have no idea how the new astral system works lmao so who has synergy currently?

the thing is i have 0 pity on both character + weapon banner since elysia and i'm broke asf so i'm considering skipping one patch just to save

[dry python]

Well HLE has the hss tag

[ancient needle]

Keep in mind that you likely won't be able to obtain it in the future

So you might wanna keep it for collection purposes

Up to you ofc

[ancient needle]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ancient needle]

Check the last link for teambuilding

||Rita|| is still in beta, so the BiS comps are not set in stone

[molten shoal]

wait this is a thing omg tysmmm

[dry python]

I thought cn server's live

[ancient needle]

Is it? Might be confusing timelines rn

Shouldn't it go live right after HLE's banner goes down

[dry python]

V3 was 9 days ago

[ancient needle]

We have V4 too nowadays

[dry python]

No we don't

And anyway I never got a new link

[ancient needle]

Huh, was I lied to

[dry python]

Well whatever if it's still ongoing I'll download cn beta

[ancient needle]

V4

Or does Marisa's naming convention suck or smth

[dry python]

It's marisa what do you think lol

[ancient needle]

Anyway, 8.6 in CN is on December 4th

Making me doubt myself smh

[wraith brook]

what is best team for sampo in abbys?

[ancient needle]

PAWS FDD FWS

[quick birch]

paws/fws/fdd
maybe also give ps instead of fdd a try if you have her

you may want the speed instead of damage depending on your account

[ancient needle]

Though Badum PS might be better in RL, ye

[wraith brook]

oh ok thanks

hope i have enought time

[wraith brook]

so its better PS in any case?

[ancient needle]

Depends on your damage output

Either is more than enough for T3 though

The diff is small

[wraith brook]

k thanks
i scared i have not time for t3

[wraith brook]

is it possitble?

[ancient needle]

Probably not T1, but defo T2-T3

[wraith brook]

ok thanks
I try my best

[upbeat egret]

Rl sleep

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/yRpRwj6GxXU?si=hLJMmsfrNAemz4Yd What we do in Transition?

[maiden garden]

Next valk goi compatible or nah?

[wraith brook]

Wdym?

[ancient needle]

||No||

[wraith brook]

its looks confuses how they do this

i cant kill it with 1 combo

[maiden garden]

I see
Any news for reruns?

[wraith brook]

@ancient needle can u help here?

[ancient needle]

The current patch's schedule is in #💁gameplay-help pins
The next patch's will be in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion when it'll be known

[maiden garden]

Ah thanks

[ancient needle]

What exactly is confusing?

[wraith brook]

i dont kill p1 with waht they do and cant repeat transition, but no time left sry

mb sry for busy u

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/G717VErsy-Y?si=k6udZUgp7l1RoWmI if it not hard, can u check pls and say
sry for disturbing u again

[ionic magnet]

will hohe ever get a dkey rerun

[small otter]

Hey Guys 😄 sO Ive had this game for like 3 weeks? And I was just wondering about the meta which character should i get and is there any good armata i can join even a tip or trick would help me a lot. ( I Have Azure empyrea, Herrscher of void i have the thunder one I have The truth one and Im currently pulling for songque and close to getting herrscher of reason)

[ancient needle]

Yes, right after HLE's banner will end
You can check the current patch's schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins

[ancient needle]

1. Songque is not recommended to get for beginners, how many pulls did you dump on her?
2. Actually good characters come only from gacha, generally speaking you should only be getting brand new chars and their weaps (for what to pull rn check "What's worth pulling this patch?" in the pins)

[ancient needle]

There are some decent temporary characters in the Asterite Shop, check the Asterite Investment List in the pins

Don't overthink Armadas btw, just pick a Tier V one that has 100+ active players

[small otter]

I heard part 2 characters were good I Have an S rank Valyrie blastmetal and Her Astralop buffs others so yeah naturaly i thought id get Songque I have dumped 50 pulls into her but before her was Elysia I dumped 30 in her and realised that I have 0 characters that are good for her So yeah Im kinda cooked I have just wasted so many crystals and at this point i may as well get her?

[small otter]

you are so right...

[ancient needle]

Wait a sec, did you mean Songque valk or Songque AstralOp?

[outer spruce]

might be songque from beginner banner

[ancient needle]

Yeah, hence the question

[small otter]

I meant Songque the character yk the one we met in part two?

[small otter]

There is an astral op what????

[lyric anvil]

Yes there is an Astral op Songque

[ancient needle]

Yes, but she comes in 2 forms
The AstralOp (limited banner) and the valk (Starter Supply)

[ancient needle]

The valk's name is Jovial Deception: Shadowdimmer

[small otter]

yup that's the one

[ancient needle]

Yeah, 50 pulls wasted is a lot, but it is what it is ig, I doubt you'd be willing to make a new acc rn

Anyway, save up 60 pulls and start pulling Hi Love Elf with the excess

If you do manage to get her you'll have 60 pulls to get her weapon

And I'd take the L and move on with JDS

[ancient needle]

Other than that just save until the next patch (in 4.5 weeks)

[low ridge]

Ugh I want her so bad but I have to save😒

[upbeat egret]

U don't need Aop if u don't aim nirvana ( retain or top 100)

[novel path]

is it possible to retain redlotus

without them?

my objective is to rank up to redlotus and retain there

[serene crystal]

Yes

[novel path]

ok nice

[shell basin]

Yep I have no Aop and no problems with staying RL. Occasionally demote when I don’t have the right dps but also sometimes +100

DS is really good

[novel path]

alright just need to get some more dps then, rn having troubles even ranking up from agony II to III

only need 100 troffies but this last 2 abyss were terrible for me

[shell basin]

Yeah, having the right characters is a hugely important thing

Team with BiS dps and two supports will easily outscore a team that has the wrong characters

Even if the second team has ranks and astral ops

[novel path]

if i can get the next 2 dps/supp with their weapons i should be set for it

farming the hell of part1 story

to get as much xtals as possible

[shell basin]

Who do you have rn

[novel path]

this is what i have from part2

[shell basin]

It’s hard to be completely certain since we don’t know what two patches Valkyrie will be like but yes my guess is that if you get the next two releases and learn their rotations you should have no issue retaining Rl

And at worst bounce A3 once a patch

Assuming people have gear

[novel path]

i just saw on youtube from cn the next valk in a team with sena and hle and the dmg was insane

really looking foward to play her

[novel path]

yeah that i wouldnt mind as well

the xtal income would already be better then agony I and II

in my bracket everyone had the BIS team

this last 2 abyss

so i got 7-9 place

[low ridge]

Right because why agony 2 got top 5 filled with the best teams

[novel path]

glad it wasnt my group only then xD

[low ridge]

This week I’m number 1 tho😁

[novel path]

damn gz even with the bis team wouldnt get 851 with this abyss xD

[low ridge]

It is low disturbance

But Ty

[trim matrix]

Are chronicles still a thing..?

[serene crystal]

yes under voyage log/anecdotes

[dark eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-13311998771891853987

[hardy lintel]

Sorry for replying but Hercher of rebirth has part 2 mechanics??!?!

[ancient needle]

I mean, you didn't ping them, why apologize xdd

Anyway, yes

She got a new gear set this patch

[hardy lintel]

Still better to apologize in case they didn't liked it

[ancient needle]

[hardy lintel]

Oh? So that why I got a box for stigmas for hee

Who else have?

[ancient needle]

HoFi and HoHE

We should get another dkey in 8.7

The most likely candidate is LV, but we have no info yet

[vivid path]

where i can see the adventure task option?

[ancient needle]

Attack -> Start -> Open World

[vivid path]

thank you!

[trim matrix]

What is this path to greatness thing? Is it for returnees ＜lvl 81???

[charred burrow]

Thats newbie mission

[lyric anvil]

That looks like returnee

[charred burrow]

Oh sr thats <lv80 returnee

[fallen shale]

Do I have good valks for the current weather? I have FWS, PS, PAWS, FDD and HLE

[ancient needle]

HLE + FDD + 2nd supp

Probably PAWS but it's best to try stuff out

[fallen shale]

Aight

I think I'm still in A3 I wasn't able to actually play the game yesterday cause my computer broke lmao

[ancient needle]

Should be fine in A3

[fallen shale]

I also can't actually check right now

[ancient needle]

Phone too potato?

Or did you make the acc on Steam

[fallen shale]

Yeah it can do P1 stuff ~okay~ but any P2 valk comes on screen and it's a slideshow

I'm also out of space for the new update

[ancient needle]

Sadge

[fallen shale]

I can use it for like, SS MA just not abyss lol

[slim blaze]

OH SHIT

Abyss

Rip -100

[ionic magnet]

shld I pull for elysia hohe dlc equipment

[shell basin]

who do you have and how many crystals?

probably not but it might be justifiable based on account details

[ionic magnet]

I have almost a 10 pull

[shell basin]

then no

You should be saving for next patch release

all the Hohe weathers you can cope with HLE just fine

[ionic magnet]

8.6?

[shell basin]

Yep

[ionic magnet]

oh

okk

[fervent furnace]

I find myself entirely fricked with ignite weathers. Yes I know I can use Vita/HoFi/Coralie, but can I use any other part 1 chars for ignite? Or pair them up with part 2 chars?

FYI, no part 2 ignite chars have their signature weap/stigmas 😩
Best I can do is the double Nuwa MB set, or Rebel’s blades with fire dmg

[shell basin]

MMG can work with full gear + sparkle + hotr but I assume that's not an option

trio will also work

[fervent furnace]

MMG only has her sig weap, no sig stigmas

& I don’t have Sparkle 😔

[shell basin]

do you have hotr + aichan gear?

[fervent furnace]

With trio, I have everyone’s priarms, but HoO doesn’t have any of her stigmas & HoTr is 3/4 (missing M)

AI Chan gear is a no, I only have two copies of her B stigma

[shell basin]

You could try crafting aslaug m mei beach party m turg tb and running trio then

I think mei beach party is exchange shop not craft?

so stigma reso

[fervent furnace]

Right, yea I have enough stigma reso to do that

[fervent furnace]

Is it not worth to buy the stigmas from the orb shop? What do you think? (Currently have 20)

[shell basin]

is 20 even enough to afford everything?

that you're missing?

anyway I would wait until next ignite weather runs

before pulling the trigger

because maybe you'll get something for free before then

[fervent furnace]

Yea, I was looking over at MA, but I know Abyss is worth more in crystals. I will keep those stigmas in mind for sure

20 can afford two stigmas I think

[shell basin]

how much stigma reso do you have

12k?

anyway you could try even coper gear trio on litost but given vita has type advantage I think I would expect Vita VBM Hofi to outscore cope trio? not 100% sure

[fervent furnace]

10740, close enough

I’m able to craft Aslaug M thankfully & eventually get Turg

I think Vita can definitely outscore Trio, just needs that animation cancel that I’m still trying to learn

Yea, you’re right, I’ll wait until next ignite abyss before caving for it

As always, thank you TesserGOAT

[shell basin]

np. Glad I could help

[proper quiver]

my coralie is not bricked anymore

yippee

[proper quiver]

with this run, if my thel weapon and stigs are underleveled, should i just use hle main dps?

[shell basin]

for ice raven? probably. Iirc on cn premium thelema outscored premium hle by only like 70 score and I expect you lose more score than that from thelema damage issues

you could also try both ig

[lone crater]

70 is quite a massive diff

[lone crater]

but anyways u can try both but hle prob performs better for you, who's ur third teammate for thel

[shell basin]

yeah but so is having level 35 gear

[lone crater]

no i just meant ur statement thats it

[shell basin]

ah yeah I see what you mean

[low ridge]

What to pick

[lone crater]

a few of them can be used in ma, but u can still get them via exchange shop anyways, so it dont matter which u pick in the end

but they all useless for abyss

[plucky talon]

I need an advice

I have this box that can give me 2 characters but i don't know the meta so idk who to pick

My options are:

Herrscher of human: Ego (Elysia)

or

Herrscher or truth (Bronya)

[lone crater]

u dont have the gears for either of them to be usable, so pick who u like more, elysia has a divine key if you do have the resources to backpull, that might possibly make her more appealing to pick

[plucky talon]

okay thanks for the advice

[faint wasp]

where can i find an infographic of monthly xtal income?

[frozen crypt]

There's a calculator online

!faq calc

[small willow]

Crystal Calculator

Hi, Captain!

Ai-chan recommends this calculator: https://honkaihub.com/calculator

[naive obsidian]

chat im captain lvl 15 rn, my valkyries are Durandal Gloria, Rita Ross, Kiana Kaslana and Raiden Mei. Who should i focus on rn and what should my lineup be for now

[shell basin]

answered in gameplay help (tho both places are fine, I just saw that one first)

[floral sail]

Are these stats good

[shell basin]

That looks like what, 20 Affix line? It’s okay if you’re low on NCCs

[low ridge]

What should be my team for super sting dimension

And what’s the boss

[shell basin]

Does Thelema have gear

[low ridge]

Yea

[shell basin]

If she does, Thelema HLE Vita is Bis

Because it’s ice raven

If not, HLE paws FDD will do okay

[floral sail]

what is NCC?

[shell basin]

Normal crystal cores, affix materials

If you don’t have very many of them settling for one decent line is fine but ideally you want two good lines

[low ridge]

Her weapon is low lvl and I’m low on mats so would it still be better to use her

[floral sail]

are those lines good?

[shell basin]

Depends on how low level the gear is. You could try both, but remember for HLE team that you need melee attacks to parry in transition

[low ridge]

Lvl 50 all stigmas lvl 45

[shell basin]

Idk you didn’t show what they are, I’m just guessing based on the final attack. It could be 1 20 line which is okay while you try and get a second one, it could be two bad lines

[shell basin]

I would guess Thelema wins but probably not by an enormous amount

[floral sail]

ok ty

[serene crystal]

it looks like 0 ATK lines to me. Can you show your affix tab ?

[naive obsidian]

i should get hersscher of human ego right? rather than truth

[lone crater]

pick who u like, it wont make a difference in most cases

[naive obsidian]

dang ok

[sweet flax]

feel free to check the pinned guide as well regarding the choice for more info why it doesnt matter

[lone crater]

hohe does have a dkey, but unlikely u have the resources to pull

[maiden garden]

She's complete right?

I think those two are the max lvls for weapon and character but I'm not sure

[sweet flax]

yes

nothing else to improve here

your affixes should also be fine considering s2 (although it only really matters in nirv, rl or lower you will be fine regardless of affix quality)

[naive obsidian]

is valkyrie boltstorm W? Ik Hi Love Elf is but i got her and valkyrie in the same spin

[sweet flax]

vbs sees near 0 use nowadays, at least she is available in elysian realm for bonus one time crystals

[naive obsidian]

aww man

could i DM u my current valkyries rn and see if u could fix anything

[sweet flax]

you can just send them here

[naive obsidian]

oh

beside kiana is raiden mei crimson impulse

[sweet flax]

you will mainly see use out of hle

you have your beginner manual right?

[naive obsidian]

yeh

[sweet flax]

you will get another valk from it (reverist calico (or rc for short)) who is a very good early game support
as well as the ability to unlock her weapon from the beginner manual box

hle + rc + vbm will be your go to team for early content clearing

vbm - valkyrie blastmetal is obtainable from p2 chapter 1 story (+ her weapon)

your manual will ask you to eventually complete a mission in p2 chapter 1 (covenant of finality)

[naive obsidian]

i see, should i use HLE and Human ego for now? Idk who could my 3rd unit be

[sweet flax]

I dont think you can use hle in p1 story just due to the way its coded

[naive obsidian]

oh

[sweet flax]

so until then just use anyone while prioritizing completing the missions in each stage

when you unlock q-manifold (abyss) and memorial arena teams start to matter more

also, once you pass chapter 7 in the story, you will be given trial valks to use instead of your own valks

[naive obsidian]

dam ok

thx man

[sweet flax]

np

[maiden garden]

I see

Thx

[inner bronze]

best team for current abyss if all s0?

[sweet flax]

should be thel

(thel + sena/lp (lp > sena if s2) + hle)

[amber finch]

asu help idk how to play thel on kb

[sweet flax]

wdym? its not that hard

[amber finch]

not used to eva + ba

[sweet flax]

got a mouse?

[amber finch]

i keep on messing up bc of the brainrot that is p2

[amber finch]

nah

ig imma just do mobile firdt

[sweet flax]

what is the dodge button on keyboard anyways?

also you can always just plug in a controller

[naive obsidian]

RMB

[sweet flax]

thats mouse and keyboard

[naive obsidian]

keyboard i think i

[amber finch]

k is eva and j is ba

so yeah i just mess it up

[amber finch]

dont hab one

[amber finch]

for the default one i is ult

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-jjk-choso-choso-panic-insane-choso-anime-insane-gif-5693401929827560865

[storm lantern]

whale on hi3 but not on peripherals smh

[amber finch]

why whel when i wont use it

[storm lantern]

why not

[amber finch]

thats even worse financial decision

[maiden garden]

Wow

Isint thel kinda old

The meta is more forgiving than i initially thought 😂

[amber finch]

because this is literally her shill boss

she kinda fell out of the meta because hoyo refuses to rerun any of her bosses

[novel path]

is the second world good enough in terms of xtal rewards appearing?? cause i might be unlucky cause rarely get them even with the 15 resets.... would the 3rd or 4rd world be better for tasks?

[serene crystal]

No matter what world you pick you rarely get them with all resets.

[shell basin]

it is currently believed but not confirmed that APHO 1 and 2 are the best for crystals. I only have data for sakura samsara so far but sakura samsara data says rates are incredibly low

[maiden garden]

Oh...

Atleast she finally got her time to shine 😭

[shell basin]

(my current estimate for sakura samsara crystal task rates is .1% per reset, tho the rate is low enough its hard to be confident)

[serene crystal]

She also has had a decent amount of time recently being required for HoHe dps, basically every ice weather before this patch was bad if you did not have MPS.

[novel path]

ok so im in the right world just unlucky xD

[serene crystal]

Or you just have average luck. I feel like you get 1-2 each month, but I haven't collected anything real.

[sweet flax]

1 every 2 weeks seems to be the average with me, sometimes I will have 1 per week, then another time 0 for 2-3 weeks

wait let me rewrite this to make it less stupid

[slim blaze]

I see

[hardy lintel]

Guys I just pull this kiana from dorm supply pity 90, is it good? Is it not? Shall I build or avoid investing

[odd plume]

what else do you have?

if you are very new, she can be used somewhat

[serene crystal]

Else it is a similar situation to HoHe in that she doesn't see use without her d-key Waxing moon.

[odd plume]

but you shouldn't be a new player if you pity'd her, so nope

[hardy lintel]

I have Hi love elf, BD Kiana, Sena, Hercher of void, argent knight Artemis Rita. And Himeko Blood 🌹

[glossy laurel]

should i get key of ego?

[hardy lintel]

I'm new basically

Players like over a year ago but my account was des according you guys and so I made a new one per your recommendation (right call may I add)

[odd plume]

purana is a better choice, it's RC weapon, she can support your other ely

but not that much better compare with no weapon

[hardy lintel]

Btw I didn't pity her exactly xd. I like got her when the next to s rank was like 90

[odd plume]

key of ego does basically nothing really

[glossy laurel]

ohh is she good with hle ?

[odd plume]

nope, just cope support because you have nothing

check the pin for budget HLE team

[lyric hornet]

What should I farm in Universal Mirage after I get all the fragments for all the d keys in the foundery?

[odd plume]

any F6 that is easiest for you

actually can just use LTE

[lyric hornet]

Yeah figured that's what you meant

[jolly pulsar]

does anyone know if quantum valkyries have skills that can inflict quantum collapse (besides their ultimates)?

[wintry wharf]

teri has some

when she gets hit if i remember

[quick birch]

Her weapon basically makes her able to auto evade the attacks that give you collapse

And it also provides you with an additional collapse iirc

[lone crater]

it doesnt, it would be great if it did

sparkle weap does give additional collapse

[quick birch]

Ah confused her with sparkle then

[lone crater]

do u get the feeling of watching spark just instant breaking the two shields with ult while i sit there with teri praying vita hits me faster

spark feels like a cheat in that sense

[oblique ruin]

can i make a new team for hle with these valks or do i still follow the team in pins

[lone crater]

u cannot, because u lack units who are symbiosis

[quick birch]

Still follow the teams in the pins

[oblique ruin]

ohi see tyy

[maiden garden]

The stigs in reserve work

Are they available anywhere else too?

[quick birch]

Depends on the Stigmata, some are in foundry/exchange shop some are exclusive to reserve work

[maiden garden]

I see

What about himeko tmb
Is it exclusive to reserve work?

[fallen shale]

oh actually turns out I can reasonably compete, the performance isn't too too bad I think PS was just uniquely device melting

now the issue is just getting used to the mobile controls 🫠

[prisma oyster]

is there any chance that we will able to get senti brick for free somewhere in the future like reserve works maybe

i just want for collection

[glossy laurel]

is this it?

[prisma oyster]

yes

[amber finch]

probs given away for free in boxes first before reserve

[serene crystal]

Did we not get the brick in a box this patch?

[amber finch]

dont rmb but we did get it last patch

i only rmb dxy being notable in this patch's box but yeah

its already given away for free, but reserve would prob take awhile

[prisma oyster]

eh in where

[amber finch]

mini spending

[prisma oyster]

ah yeah no wonder

[amber finch]

last patch mini spending was so fucking good

[quick birch]

nope dkey box did not have brick this patch

[serene crystal]

Mistook it for last patch mini spending

[amber finch]

issok, it was too good for one to not be mistaken

[prisma oyster]

how long did it took 7tr to get to reserve works since release

[amber finch]

when was 7t's release

its from then to now

[prisma oyster]

awhile ago

[amber finch]

ok 2022

so like imma say 3.5 years

there you go

[prisma oyster]

next year mayhaps

for senti brick

[amber finch]

who knows

[shadow gyro]

for what its worth brick might be free again (like the 8.4 box)
its also worth noting that despite reserve shop following release order, its not exactly following it so if hoyo wanna put it in there sooner or later they can

for now i would just be concerned about getting the existing dkeys from the shop that u don't have unless you're done alr

[prisma oyster]

yeah i was farming that before but im also kinda deciding if i want to farm that or affix rerolls for next valk

[amber finch]

cant you just farm both

the dkeys in reserve shop costs the bp balls

[shadow gyro]

affix reroll? what does that have to do with reserve works though? or are you talking about dkey boxes

[prisma oyster]

oh no i mean farmable dkeys

the ones where u can get by salvaging (?) bounty weaps

im already working my way for fenghuang i can get it on next open world reset cuz i farm the purple balls thing from open world

[maiden garden]

Since the event is coming to an end and i don't have enough to buy thel I am wondering to get these
Ik these suck
And the elf box would be probably better but I feel it would be very long before I get a 3* Kiana elf to outdo dreamseekr

So. Am wondering to get these for collection purposes since like the old valks a lot
And playing with them atleast in ma is somewhat fun

[quick birch]

all of those are also farmable in war treasury fyi

[maiden garden]

Yea
But want so many

Currency so slow..

[quick birch]

well i can only tell you that i won't recommend getting the box since all of these are farmable and none of them have huge meta relevance, some are okay in MA for some strats but p2 has also been taking over there. The decision is up to you in the end just be aware of the trade offs

[maiden garden]

I see
Thanks for the advice

Guess I'll hold on the tokens and properly access the cons and decide whether i wanna be smart or not on the last few days

[serene crystal]

Currency gain also goes up a lot after breakthrough.

[low ridge]

Is a rocket hammer under great sword

[quick birch]

no, it's just rocket hammer

[serene crystal]

No it is under rocket hammer

[low ridge]

I never see rocket hammer when im rerolling

Ugh my luck

[quick birch]

it's together with cannon and scythe

[low ridge]

And whats better atk or dmg

[serene crystal]

ATK, damage is useless

[low ridge]

It is?

[quick birch]

yes

it's a flat number

only one valk used it ever and that's lunar vow

because she attacks really often and her mults are a bit low

[lyric anvil]

So she often uses lightning DMG than Cross/PSY attack?

[quick birch]

yeah

a mix isnt too bad but she prefers lightning DMG, though this is a really rare exception p2 valks only really used atk, phys valks also like some CDMG

[amber finch]

basically her multipliers are so low that her dmg is like 100 per hit

so having full lightning dmg would be more beneficial than atk

ofc the diff is like cdm and atk, its not much but still

[quick birch]

actually from wyverein's comparison full atk vs full lightning dmg is like 8% so pretty nice

[amber finch]

oh damn

nvm full lighting it is

[quick birch]

anyway as said it's a rare exception

[amber finch]

she ate like 200k of my nccs tho

[low ridge]

Omg I’m so dumb I have been doing 7 instead of 6 and I have been doing it for weeks😭😭

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

What can I do with this stuff

[ancient needle]

Same as with other stones

Either crafting G4 stigs or salvaging them for Fuel

[low ridge]

How to salvage

[ancient needle]

Equip -> Fragments -> Gear -> select any stone -> Use -> Salvage

[low ridge]

I can only turn it into green stuff

[ancient needle]

Yes, that's Fuel

[amber finch]

that green stuff is ether fuel

i farmed way too much fire g3

[low ridge]

Should I get these

[amber finch]

no

[low ridge]

Do I lvl her up

[glad ice]

yes definitely. u will stuck stick with her for a long time

[maiden garden]

Do I lvl up this weapon, mainly using her as support for hle with vbm (wanting to pull fdd/dudu whichever comes home)
(I superimposed the weapon when I didn't knew it didn't do anything big)

Lvl it to 65 (I think that's the max)

[glad ice]

lmao u already did

u cant 65 it

[maiden garden]

Oh i can't

What a waste of coins 😂

[glad ice]

coins, honkai cubes, alloy blocks, twin souls

[maiden garden]

So ig I'm done with her too

(Stigs are all atk (15-20 range, can improve but not enough mats from mirage to get the roll orienter)

So now time to build vbm

[maiden garden]

Also the mats to superimpose it
(I have another one lying around)
😭

Ig some lessons are learned the hard way

[novel path]

is this team alright for the abyss this week or should i change someone?( jovial is the only one with bis not fully upgraded )

sena seems to do almost no dmg for me compared to mad or hle, and feels kinda off the time i lose doing her rot

[outer spruce]

sena's not supposed to do damage here, she gives breach by just being in your team

she doesn't really go on field

[novel path]

oh ok thanks

[glad ice]

notice sena's buff at the bottom of screen

[novel path]

wouldnt it be better to use sena as leader for the anchor tho?

[outer spruce]

no, the leader is the dps

it has to be thelema

[glad ice]

MPS lead is best in this abyss

[novel path]

ok thanks both

❤️

if i geyt things like this on affixes

is still better to reroll for atk?

[outer spruce]

don't build crit

[glad ice]

elemental dmg in hi3 cannot crit

[outer spruce]

elemental characters can't crit

[novel path]

oh ok, so physical i should build with crit crit dmg?

[outer spruce]

atk and crit dmg

[quick birch]

a mix of atk and cdmg

[outer spruce]

crit rate isn't actually flat crit rate

[glad ice]

crit rate is a rng thing and not worth building. 10 crit rate is ~2%. horb as a support can buff 60%

[novel path]

oh ok thanks a lot ❤️

[quick birch]

crit rate isnt actually crit rate but CRT which is used to calculate your crit rate

and it's just not worth

[novel path]

and betwen the atks, for example for mad pleasure ( ice dmg mech atk or atk )

should be all fine right?

[outer spruce]

ice dmg isn't good either

[quick birch]

ice damage is an actual flat number

[novel path]

and weapon dmg?

[quick birch]

yeah that's fine

[novel path]

ok nice thanks

[outer spruce]

chained blade atk is good for thelema

[novel path]

thanks again xD

ran out of rerolls, got 4 out of the 6 afixes to atk tho

did 720 on this abyss, way better than the last 2 just hope its enough for rank 1 to 6

so i can get promoted

[raven bane]

can i get thelema stamps even if i dont have her?

[glad ice]

u can get them but u cant use them

[novel path]

i went with the recommended on pins instead