👶beginner-help

[eternal spindle]

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[glad ice]

recruitment sent

i maxxed sensei shop tho so do as u please

[eternal spindle]

where is all of that? i dont see it anywhere lol

[glad ice]

for cadet its cadet quest. for sensei we get sensei money to use in that shop when u do ur quest

dw u will have it when u become sensei

[eternal spindle]

ya but like where's the menu for all of that, or is there not one?

[glad ice]

check ur cadet quest in "bridge" > "Friends" (at bottom left)

[eternal spindle]

ah thanks

[glad ice]

in there look right u should see "friends" and "cadet" (its "friends" and "sensei" for me so should be "cadet" on ur side)

or u can click the big yellow "!" next to ur name in there

[abstract sequoia]

check the first pin

both have their upsides and downsides

if you just don't want to read and aren't paying for level rush, go for HoHe

[worn basin]

should i pull for songque on starter banner??

[abstract sequoia]

no

!faq starter

[small willow]

Starter Supply

Don't waste crystals, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of why Starter Supply is not recommended [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Short answer:

• Brand new Valkyries to be prioritised over old ones (see [!faq backpull](#👶beginner-help message)).
• The discounted 10x does not make it good. Only do the 1 single pull that gets refunded anyway.
• In most cases, you will not have the infrastructure to make a good team with either of these Valkyries.
• Your crystals are better spent on new Valkyries: the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.
• This banner is only recommended for people willing to reroll accounts until they get a Valkyrie in the first 10x. Ask us what to do if you are interested in rerolling, it is very dependant on the patch contents.

[worn basin]

ty

[plucky birch]

i see

Btw random question but whos the hottest hi3 character in yalls opinion

[sweet flax]

#🎮honkai-chat ask the fellas over there preferably

[glad ice]

to each their own

[eternal spindle]

what is this "expedition" i literally tried everything lmao

[maiden garden]

Is there gold ones i mean the ones on the side? Should i bother leveling them up or no

[odd plume]

you should, but just enough for you to clear the content

[odd plume]

in the dorm

[worn basin]

will songque ever come in an event for free, similar to thelemas??

[odd plume]

there are 2 expedition, 1 for manual, 1 for afk
you 3* the stage manually first then go to the dorm to afk farming

[worn basin]

i want her for collection purposes since pulling for her doesnt seem wise 😭

[odd plume]

every valk will become "farmable" at some point

[eternal spindle]

got jds on a stray single yesterday, will she be useful or will she just rot on my account? basically have nothing for her

[odd plume]

kinda depend on what you have
while she can be somewhat usable, getting her weapon isn't recommended, so she will most likely remain useless, but if you have nothing, can use her to support future valk

[glad ice]

jds can still be used to support LoA vs SD boss but u will need to invest her stig

[hardy reef]

what weapon should i get from the supply giveaway?

i have herrscher elysia but apparently jade knight is important

[glad ice]

no. u get the purana chakram

RC is A rank and much easier to build than JK and can be used to support multi element (including physical), while JK only support ice

[hardy reef]

ohh, i see

thanks!

[glad ice]

sss rc is 10x easier than sss jk, fyi

[hardy reef]

that makes sense, yeah
i kinda overlook her lol
but thanks again!

[worn basin]

what weap has more use from the divine key box?

[ancient needle]

None are useful as actual weapons, but SoE:AE is the only one that isn't in Reserve Works

[worn basin]

thank yew 🫡

[haughty elbow]

wow is that an na beginner

[lime narwhal]

Guys, perhaps it might be a stupid/silly question but
Is there any "universal" stigmata set? One I could use for multiple characters (tbh the stress tests ones, since I'd most likely lvl up those valks - the old ones - mostly for those alone )

[haughty elbow]

the stress tests are pretty easy tbh

just any gear that buffs the right dmg type is fine

u can even do it with unleveled chars

peary maybe fine

[lime narwhal]

Oh word? Tbh I havent even tried so I was kinda scared/thought I had to be more prepared

Since I can get some of the balls from those on war treasure and returnee box Ig I'll try to go for it then, thanks

Also - deep archives - any rewards besides the shown on the stage? Worth doing it regardless?

[maiden garden]

guys is there a chance at getting characters early or do i need to get to 90 pity

genuinely so unlucky rn and it’s killing me.. also is there a 5050 in this game or am i guarenteed

[outer spruce]

no 50/50

also yes it is possible to get the character early

[haughty elbow]

u might as well do it

[haughty elbow]

possible but going to 90 isnt very uncommon

[glad ice]

guarantee to get the banner character

[maiden garden]

ty!

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/SZaB5vM.png the emblem from the aesir files have seen niche uses on physical non bleed valks, but not a high priority overall for now as a developing/earlier player.

[spiral badge]

if you have trouble there are various f2p or barebone guides on youtube you can search to follow, or ask us about any one in particular

you may want to prepare an elizabeth B piece for movement speed on one of yamabuki armor (bronya)'s stress tests

[lime narwhal]

HoRb can occasionally benefit from it? I mean she's my main unit ATM

[lime narwhal]

Gonna do that, ngl that's the one I do not want to do, I rly dislike this version of bronya.
And tbh I didn't even got the valks yet from war treasury/returnee box precisely bcs I thought I would need a more careful preparation of it, and so I haven't even tried them tbh, gonna just follow the spending priority order and do it.
Talking about bronya, I got a box from the even that has Herrscher of reason weapon and I do have her from supply, worth getting her weapon from the box?

[spiral badge]

for your last question

[spiral badge]

you can prob avoid doing the first two stress tests since they don't give the supply card on all clear. Unfortunately YA bronya is the third but you can put it off for now until you feel more comfortable with the game. Stress tests are alot of work for one measly card that you can get anytime when needed.

i'm not sure what you mean by spending priority order but don't confuse it with spending event priority that's pinned. That's different and you should not get valk fragments from it.

[lime narwhal]

Sec lemme get the print

This box

[spiral badge]

uh i already answered that part. Check my first response with the reply to the actual answer

it wasn't what i was asking about

sorry i kinda responded in a weird order since that last question of yours was quickest to answer

gonna just follow the spending priority order and do it.
If this was referring to the pinned guides then that's fine

[lime narwhal]

OH THE ANSWER IS LINLING THAT PERSON NOW I GOT IT

For the spending priority I meant the guide we have here of war treasury shop spending priority on valks, sry

[spiral badge]

ok we're on the same page now. Sorry for not being more clear

[lime narwhal]

I got none so far bcs I thought I would have to invest more, but now I know Ig I can just go for them

[spiral badge]

yeah they have no real meta use so there's no need to be too careful with which you pick sooner than others

but you do want to get them when you can because

• WT shop itself can be weekly gated if you're ranking them up
  • SS rank is notable for dorm errands
  • LE and KMB have a slight discount on their first frag every week. Ideal targets to eventually max out to access pure witch orb shop long term
• elysian realm only gives you one key a week to unlock a valk there

[lime narwhal]

I see, makes more sense now, guess I'll just go for it then and stop being so overly cautious, as for elysian...rly wish they would give more than one per week lmao

Thanks a lot for everything as per usual sai. Gonna just go for it then

[spiral badge]

glad to help. the 1 key a week becomes an afterthought long term since you'll eventually exhaust it

but yeah it prevents you from rushing all of it at once to accelerate crystals from it or just playing too much in general, and keeps you playing every week.

i'm sure there's opinions all around about it but that's the design of it overall

[lime narwhal]

Wich actually makes sense to retain players like myself (who wants to rush everything and eventually get burned out)

As much as I wish it were different I recognize it makes me stay around longer

[spiral badge]

there's positives and negatives to it. I do favor giving more control to the players and letting them decide or restrain themselves but on the otherside it's understandable too

for player health or company stats but ofc these are only ideas i can speculate on my own and not representative of how they actually think

it's not the only place they implement this sort of design too. Most notoriously some events are daily gated so watch out for those. Get them done sooner than later

but also other games like character stories in genshin. Not going to digress further there though lol

[lime narwhal]

Not to mention that the company itself is from another country as a whole, hence I'm not quite sure how the culture influences it.
But I'm sure that on a societal view of health it ends up being a good policy of control so they can avoid possible bad scenarios

[spiral badge]

yeah lol

[lime narwhal]

As far as I'm aware Asia as a whole mostly tend to view and favor much more the collectivity than the individual so, makes a lot of sense to have laws in place to prevent games to become too addicting or something of the sort

[spiral badge]

we definitely had past examples from other gacha games where poor designs causing poor consumer decisions resulting in company responsibilities even if tos and consumers being informed/versed with the game were in play

i'm mostly thinking of monkey gate in gbf that resulted in the pity system being implemented but anyway i digress

[lime narwhal]

Ngl never heard of it. I'm fairly new to the gaming world

I blame my husband, he presented gacha to me and now I need always some to obsess over (I'm the one that actually am grateful for the games to be designed to limit our playing time bcs I know I have tendencies to just go overboard sadly)

[spiral badge]

i send you a link to read on gbf in off topic if you're interested but yeah there's alot to these designs. Try to be mindful of how predatory they may be too and stay responsible

[lime narwhal]

Doing my best, thankfully I have someone that hold me back and help me to stay on track. Gonna read it bcs now I'm curious

[final copper]

New here. How can I use this material?

[spiral badge]

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

check out the refine section in the second link

[inner bronze]

thinking abt getting s1 thelema, but im at 500, which means im missing 10 :,)
should i spend a bit more to cop it?

[tall flax]

what team to make for these? this is all i have

[odd plume]

which what you have, better just focus on 2 teams, HLE team for SA and PS team for SoW seem good enough

[shy drift]

hi anyone would kindly want to assist me

i'm a returnee, I just wanted to know what to do with my account

[odd plume]

check returnee account in the pin first, then ask again

[lyric anvil]

Who's fire up-

[shy drift]

yes thank you I just checked could you assist me

I will proceed with needing help

give me a second to post my stuff

i've also only did one pull of the carnival banner thing

managed to get the valkyrie but i've read that there's another one that's better and good for updated teans so I saved one 10 pulls leftg

[odd plume]

look very rough, from meta pov, best option would be remake a new account
but that is only if you play seriously

if you dont want to, just save for next patch and see

[shy drift]

okay ty

I don't think I have the motivation to restart a new whole account

[odd plume]

for now, you can keep using HoO GD HoTR

[shy drift]

thank you

if i'm able to get HoF should I replace GD

[odd plume]

not sure if RC will be better than gearless GD but you can try both

[shy drift]

ah sorry but what does RC stand for

[odd plume]

in theory yes, but not sure if you can get hofi and her gear in reasonable amount of time, and her old gear is outdated

[shy drift]

I doubt it too I was thinking HoFi without any gears since I saw her on the standard banner

[odd plume]

reverist calico or something, can check the glossary link in the pin when you see the name you dont know

[shy drift]

ok ty

[odd plume]

not you main focus anyway

for now, use what you have and save for new valks

[shy drift]

also could you give me an estimate of how much playtime I would need if I restart to get to where i'm at

[odd plume]

less than 1 month if you play seriously

[shy drift]

what would you consider playing seriously?

[spiral badge]

S1 thelema isn't anything noteworthy on its own but i suppose you may consider it as a step towards future ranks possibly. However with that perspective, i think you can just consider 2 stamps and spend the remainder currency on something else (like elf boxes if that's relevant to you).

if you have to push for the s1 then read this for building pity considerations #👶beginner-help message

[shy drift]

I usually skip all the story... sooo that would save alot of time

[odd plume]

like 2 or 3 hours a day before lv55, after that you could play less

[shy drift]

Oh that's not bad at all okay ty I'll try restarting from today and we'll see how it goes if I need help could I reach out to you in dms since you've helped me

[odd plume]

just ask here, more people can give you better anwser and less biased

[shy drift]

Will do thanks alot for the help

[old parrot]

guys, how do people get the box where you can get HoHE’s key of ego wep??

[ancient needle]

From the Starter Manual

It's an event that new players have

Other people can get it from Reserve Works

Not that it's worth getting by any stretch

[iron laurel]

🤔 guys which hammer should i get for my f2p coralie

[ancient needle]

Which Coralie

[iron laurel]

uhh the free one

[ancient needle]

Her signature one from Chapter 1 of Part 2 story

[iron laurel]

oh i can still get that now?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[iron laurel]

thx

[lyric anvil]

VBm is the easiest part 2 to 4/4

[deep dew]

hi will HLE full + LP full + HoHE no gear better or HLE + BFD full + VBm?

[lyric anvil]

You have FDD?

[lyric anvil]

Cause if you have FDD
You can do HLE, FDD, and Vita if you have no other Valks with Symbiosis

[deep dew]

no i only have ones in the screenshot

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[deep dew]

i meant to ask if i should get LP or BFD

[quick birch]

generally we emphasise on getting new valks and refrain from backpulling so ideally the 8.6 valk, though we currently don't know a lot about the 8.6 valk and if she turns out to be rather mediocre i'm not totally opossed to backpull fdd once her rerun approaches in week 5-6 just ask again once her rerun is here and we should know more

regarding vita

!faq pullvita

[small willow]

Vita

Despite being a must-pull on her release, Vita is no longer recommended to pull for.

This is due to a combination of factors:

• New releases take priority.
• Vita cannot support Grail of Infinitude or future ring types.
• She is not best in Wheel of Destiny teams unless ranked.
• In Law of Ascension teams, she is typically not BiS, but it depends on the boss/team.
• Vita DPS heavily relies on 2 additional [Rite of Oblivion](#👶beginner-help message) units and is not shilled frequently.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[deep dew]

ah i see, tysm!

[quick birch]

please refrain from mentioning story spoilers in this channel

[eternal pond]

Oh, oops mb

[lyric anvil]

#📚honkai-lore

[cinder peak]

how much does the skin cost?

[lyric anvil]

Which one?

[cinder peak]

gacha

[lyric anvil]

Kiana's?

[cinder peak]

yeah. Any gacha skin costs same amount of crystal, no?

[lyric anvil]

FWS is 9600

HoRb is 7680

[lyric anvil]

Not all of them do

[cinder peak]

interesting

so fws cost 30 rolls then :V dunno if I can afford that

[lyric anvil]

I'm hopeful to get HoRb's but probably not

[spice silo]

Hello, just came to HI3 after a while and wanted to know if Sparkle banner is upcoming

[lyric anvil]

#👶beginner-help message

[long tendon]

Im a new player and i was wondering how long it would take for the fate defying dragon character to come back😞 i played her through elysias trial and i really liked her. I was bummed to find out i just missed her banner last update

[lone crater]

prob next year

as a carnival

or some kind of rotating banners at cny

[long tendon]

[lyric anvil]

She's getting a rerun this patch

[lone crater]

didnt she alr ran

[lyric anvil]

FDD?

[lone crater]

memory getting oldge

[long tendon]

I looked it up it said she was out last patch

[lyric anvil]

Not yet

[lone crater]

ur alg then, she running after whenever spending ends

[lyric anvil]

The 21st

[lone crater]

whos running this whole time, oh horb

[lyric anvil]

And Spending is still going on during that

[lone crater]

o how nice of them

[long tendon]

Bro i gotta save then😭😭😭 is there any other way to get crystals other than quests

Ive been dying here

[lone crater]

p1 story gives quite a lot

u shuold be fine

[lyric anvil]

Spending ends when RS gets her rerun

[long tendon]

Okay ill skip elysias weapon then probably

[long tendon]

What is spending😨

[lone crater]

dont want to do that

this game u need weap

try get both

[lyric anvil]

Don't skip her weapon

[long tendon]

Okay ive got a lot of content to do ill just lock in

I cant believe she comes back so soon hi3 is so different

[lone crater]

in p2 every valk reruns after their initial patch, then its carnival/cny or some kind random time slot

[long tendon]

Ohh

[lyric anvil]

Unless you're RS

[lone crater]

or songque

both rs and songque didnt rerun immediately but yea

tho did rs not rerun immediately i dont rmb

[lyric anvil]

RS didn't even get thrown into carnival

[lone crater]

the spending used to expire before rerun, ig this year they wanna do stuff slightly diff

[lyric anvil]

Reran every patch after hers except 8.3

[lone crater]

makes sure everyone skips her if they skipped her initial patch

[lyric anvil]

I'm still surprised by Badum and PS in carnival

[lone crater]

is a good carnival for ppl who wanted to unbrick themselves

[lyric anvil]

True

[slim blaze]

What does non elemental mean?

Like typeless?

[quick birch]

yeah, it's mistranslated

they mean typeless

[slim blaze]

Bruh

[lone crater]

from which character

ds?

[quick birch]

Should be on-field

[lone crater]

but the statement above is all onfield, and the bottom is only the char

[quick birch]

Just could be an inconsistency with hoyo's translation, would have to check the CN text

[lone crater]

well cn text is saying same thing, so no idea

be funny if it is just 5% more dmg by ds

[quick birch]

It's DMG from the valk, about a 2% increase against typeless enemies according to wyverein
https://youtu.be/hf9dGyivbVU?si=Y8ia9M80Xk_9QinO

[lone crater]

op

[lyric anvil]

Would this be useful against current cycle?

[lone crater]

no teri is just bricked

[lyric anvil]

Fuck

[quick birch]

If you're using DS yeah

[lyric anvil]

Better than SS Chenxue?

[quick birch]

I doubt it tbh but haven't tested it yet, I could also see that the initial Ari you get from CX is somewhat important this cycle

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[storm lantern]

are you nirv

[lyric anvil]

RL about to promote Nirv

[storm lantern]

i'd rather use ds in rl

in nirv you can justify chenxue if u farm a lot of ari in transition but otherwise 2nd ring is too slow

[quick birch]

It's not really about second ring, SS CX is also more DMG than DS if you have 2/3 symbioses chars

[storm lantern]

not against typeless enemies

[quick birch]

Idk how large the diff is now with SSS DS and Vill-V being typeless though

[quick birch]

They should come rather close from what I remember

[lyric anvil]

I could test in a moment since I'm currently doing Chapter 10

[quick birch]

iirc 3 symbioses/OS is also ~2-3% increase

[eternal spindle]

im missing roald amundsen M for VBm but idk where to find it

[storm lantern]

just checked bleed ticks and i don't think there's any variance in that, ss chenxue is about .4% better with 3 tags

vita/fdd idk if it changes with team aside from the tags

[serene crystal]

Roald amundsen is available from foundry but you should have something better then it what other stigs do you own?

[storm lantern]

i guess i'll ping @lyric anvil since that's who the question was actually for

[lyric anvil]

SS Chenxue better then?

[storm lantern]

yeah

i mean you can test yourself but i dont see any reason the results would change

also worth noting that using ds is a public service since it confronts other rl players with their skill issue instead of being able to blame it on gacha op

that's why im using her in nirv even though she's just worse

[lyric anvil]

[lone crater]

bold of u to assume other rl players even checks what others use

[storm lantern]

true

[lone crater]

most of them does a run and sleeps

[lyric anvil]

If I get more than 781, I'll laugh

[eternal spindle]

basically nothing lol

[amber finch]

nah i want them to have false hope that whaling for aops and ranks would make them better

[eternal spindle]

just finished maxing out (gear wise) for hle here, what do i do next?

[amber finch]

just to be crushed with the realization that they’re just bad at the game

[storm lantern]

yeah but ur a toxic whel

[amber finch]

[storm lantern]

riley is magnanimous f2p

[amber finch]

welp its just 8 weeks of saving and suffering

[amber finch]

riley and f2p shouldnt be in the same sentence

[storm lantern]

farm xtals and source prisms for the next valk u pull

[serene crystal]

Get Tsiolkovsky on VBM

[amber finch]

very expensive for a newbie

[storm lantern]

yeah tsiol vbm not a bad idea

[amber finch]

anyways i should update my about me page

too mani solicitors dming me

[storm lantern]

it will be a sunk cost eventually but as long as you're using her it's more significant than upgrading other valk's stigs

[amber finch]

i got like 5 this week

[raven bane]

should i try to pull for kiana skin banner to get hof or should i just save up my pulls for carnival or future characters

[amber finch]

hof? as in hofi?

hofi is not in the skin box if that’s what you want

[storm lantern]

u know hofs is farmable?

[eternal spindle]

i do have 14 source prism from getting like 3 set of hle stigs going for weapon
but no ether fuel

[amber finch]

yeah both hofi and hofs are farmable nowadays

[amber finch]

yeah you’re dirt poor

[amber finch]

also save for future valkyries

dont pull on carnival unless you know what you’re doing

[raven bane]

herrcheser of flamecesion

[amber finch]

she’s farmable

[eternal spindle]

so like what do i do lol
but honestly it should be fine since no content need me to max gear anything for now atleast

[storm lantern]

and also when what you're doing is whaling

[lyric anvil]

[raven bane]

a

[shy radish]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[amber finch]

its basically just farming, leveling up and saving until 8.6 comes

[raven bane]

but isnt vita good

[amber finch]

no, you can just salvage the dupes and craft the missing one in foundry

[amber finch]

we literally have a faq on why you shouldnt get her

[shy radish]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[amber finch]

tldr: shes too old now

[storm lantern]

#👶beginner-help message

[amber finch]

also she’s just really slow as a support

[amber finch]

remember to use the free stig box

the “vita is good” thing was definitely overblown to heavens by more casual and laid back players

im not even talking about her debut patch

[raven bane]

well i am just a casual player i see good character i pull but is she really that bad

[amber finch]

if you’re a casual player and you’re just pulling for whoever you like then this conversation is pretty redundant

and like i said, she is not bad

just old and is not future proof-able

[storm lantern]

it's like pulling cerydra without phainon

[raven bane]

exactly what i was doing when she first debut

[storm lantern]

just as long as u know what that entails

[raven bane]

is there any info on the next patchs characters?

[amber finch]

.

[amber finch]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

if you mention her in this channel then do remember to use spoilers

|| like this ||

[raven bane]

meh it could be better also will there be male characters in the future like otto

[storm lantern]

no

[raven bane]

damn

[amber finch]

dont know abt now but when hoyo tried to, they got death threats

[eternal spindle]

based

[amber finch]

so i dont think we’ll be having a male completely playable character soon

[raven bane]

lemme guess cn community?

[amber finch]

ionno

[ancient needle]

Ye

[amber finch]

smh confirming

[lyric anvil]

We only have the APHO main character kek and that's it

[amber finch]

now you’re getting beaned by the goverment

[amber finch]

she’s mainly a bait valk for cny

8.6 is the rest patch for us after a big spending patch (8.5 cn anni) and then 8.7 is chinese new year which is also global anni

[ancient needle]

I mean, she could be actually good, we don't know yet

[amber finch]

good valks are still bait valks

8.6 is a very good bait tho i cant deny that

[ancient needle]

I meant performance-wise btw

[amber finch]

(not talking about her performance or anything btw lurkers)

we dont know that yet

[storm lantern]

||she was bricked on announcement||

[lyric anvil]

We know nothing of what 8.6 has to fully offer so

[raven bane]

is there any info about her animations etc.

[amber finch]

ik, they can still be bait just bc of how much shill hoyo throws at anni valks

[storm lantern]

not yet no

[amber finch]

all the infos in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins are all that we know rn

also this server has a very strict rule on leaks btw

[eternal spindle]

as is with all hoyo servers

[amber finch]

just so you arent confused:

• leaks = illegally obtained/datamined/etc informations that hoyo never intended for the public to see
• the infos in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins = officially announced informations in the CN servers/community but it is not officially announced for the global side

[amber finch]

we call it spoilers

[eternal spindle]

btw is it a good idea for me to invest my prism and mats into getting tsiol 3pc for vbm?

[amber finch]

could be a good consideration yeah

since you’ll be stuck with her for a pretty long time

having her fully geared will definitely help you out

[raven bane]

wait a goddamn second you are telling me that she is just a support and she is very old character?!?!!?

[faint crypt]

ches wheres your prof tag

[amber finch]

she is not just a support

she is both a dps and a support like all base S rank p2 valk

[lyric anvil]

^

[amber finch]

and she is pretty old now for hi3 standards yes, and her tags doesnt cover newer rings like goi

[lyric anvil]

She is now a year old

[amber finch]

her being roo means that she will be able to support all other ring types, but alas, she will always be a cope option compared to actual valks with that ring

[storm lantern]

it's not even that she's bad she just doesn't help new players

[amber finch]

too crazi for prof

fuck the government im going out on my own terms

[amber finch]

this too

she’s not bad, she’s niche

[raven bane]

if she is cerydra then who is the phainon

[amber finch]

please dont try to compare hsr to hi3

hi3 is much older with different mechanics

kan only gave you that example as a very very general way for you to understand

[raven bane]

powerscale bro

[storm lantern]

old chars in general

[amber finch]

?

[raven bane]

like their tiers in the meta

[amber finch]

there isnt a tierlist in this game

[raven bane]

a

[storm lantern]

tiers are a concept for when the meta doesnt change twice a week

[raven bane]

so no powercreep?

[ancient needle]

Even if you do make a tierlist (i've seen a solid one), it's not helpful

[amber finch]

yes powercreep

[lyric anvil]

There's still power creep

[ancient needle]

It's there, but it's slow

A valk becomes more and more niche over time over the course of ~2 years

Before inevitably being fully replaced

[storm lantern]

less powercreep (it exists) and more hoyo deciding to not run the bosses they cover as much anymore

[amber finch]

older valks with no new rings = eventually phased out/just straight up deals less dmg compared to newer gen valks

if there were no powercreeps then hov would still be considered good

[ancient needle]

A valk's performance can vary a lot between bosses

[lyric anvil]

Lyo still uses HoV

[ancient needle]

BiS on one option and literally useless on another

[amber finch]

cant even use her for bosses anymore

relegated to sidestage clearing duties

[raven bane]

so instead of buffing the old characters they bring new weapons for those older characters? like hoh elysia?

[lyric anvil]

Dist gotten too high

[faint crypt]

unless you were luna patches back

[ancient needle]

Yeah, but only some chars get that treatment

[ancient needle]

Kallen:

[lyric anvil]

To me, it seems they give popular characters stellar keys

[amber finch]

yeah, they wont just randomly give someone like da a dkey

[lyric anvil]

Or I'm completely wrong

[ancient needle]

It was just Herrschers up until now

The question is what they'll do in 8.7

[amber finch]

good bait

[ancient needle]

The last non-Herrscher dkey is very old

[raven bane]

so even if old character become niche will it become relevant again when they get new key

[amber finch]

ofc luna dkey /j #copium #watchme

[amber finch]

that is a very very big when

[ancient needle]

Yes, but

1. Likely not as relevant as on release
2. You can't rely on that

[amber finch]

hohe got a dkey and she’s the laughing stock for p2 now

[lyric anvil]

Her supporting capabilities are very much crap

[amber finch]

dps is just shit without thel

[storm lantern]

im new to the game so i cant really comment on if this has happened in the past but vita for example was actually buffed 2 or 3 patches after her release

[lyric anvil]

True

[ancient needle]

Yes, but that was because she was too ass in LoA

Essentially they just fucked up

[amber finch]

its like how they underpowered song so hard that they had to silently buff her up

[raven bane]

they gave her all that animations just be her niche? 😭

[lyric anvil]

Technically in her own AR also but as support

[ancient needle]

Close to her release she was a must-have

[amber finch]

as i had already mentioned multiple times in this convo: she’s old

[storm lantern]

she was actually a recommended backpull but we're way past that now

[lyric anvil]

Vita was a must pull on her own patch but now she isn't

[amber finch]

old = less supporting capabilities for newer ring valks, less of her shill weathers being reran by hoyo => niche

[plucky birch]

ngl i still dont see how the new acc i made will better than my current one

[amber finch]

whats your current acc like

also making a newer acc doesnt mean you’ll immediately get all the benefits of an old account even if its a very bad one

[plucky birch]

my current one sure doesnt have starter manual and is a returnee and has minimal characters but like im kinda casual with hi3

[raven bane]

who is the overall best dps like who deals the biggest numbers

[lyric anvil]

Literally got replaced in LoA for 100% of FWS teams and 80% of PS' teams

[amber finch]

if you’re casual and dont care abt hi3 that much then it doesnt matter

[amber finch]

the newest valk

[plucky birch]

ok

[storm lantern]

it doesn't matter

[lyric anvil]

Newest Valks always meta

[storm lantern]

raw dps is not even close to a marker for meta relevance

[amber finch]

its like using er to see who’s meta

[ancient needle]

At neutral it should still be Vita DPS, but raw damage matters very rarely

[amber finch]

wait what the fuck vita is still t1 for raw dmg?

[ancient needle]

I think so, ye

[amber finch]

well aint that a surprise

[amber finch]

for any lurkers, dont pull for her just because of this

[storm lantern]

how close is trio that was the other team i heard with high raw dps

[ancient needle]

Rank-dependent

[amber finch]

please make sure you’ve read the convo before jumping to your conclusions and then complain to us why she’s mid

[remote ridge]

Oh my god guys I got hi love elf 😭😭 should I keep focusing on opening the same case to get more character puzzle to improve her rank or I should open weapon case to get her weapon

[odd plume]

in this game, weapon is must have for the valk to be good

rank is mostly for whale and highly competitive player

[oblique ruin]

is this a whole set ? so i dont need to pull here anymore ?

[storm lantern]

you need to pull until you get the weapon stigs don't matter

[storm lantern]

if you want to make your hle better at all costs backpull badum and fdd + weapons and get at least ss chenxue when she reruns, incredibly not recommended though

[oblique ruin]

💔 okay
also will i have enough time to guarantee both the new battle suit and weap? i need 50 to guarantee weap and 55 to guarantee the battlsuit

[storm lantern]

if ur a new player yeah u can guarantee both

[storm lantern]

she also uses paws and ps for at least one boss each but you can't catch up on everything without significant whaling

[junior flume]

is there any team build for elysia love cupid like i dont have kiana and behold

then what valkyries should i use ?

[serene crystal]

Do you have other characters with the symbiosis tag? @junior flume

[oblique ruin]

can i send my invite code here ?

[serene crystal]

#invite-links-here

[oblique ruin]

oh ty it wasnt in my channel list

[shut crow]

welp I took a break so long I am a returnee now

how do I play the new elly

[amber finch]

https://youtu.be/G5rgIesmGGw?si=wIMBqEg3PAB5s40i

[glad ice]

hohe new dk, new helia, lolidudu, new sushang, horb new dk

[storm lantern]

does this mention the ba4 cancel

[glad ice]

ba4 cancel?

[amber finch]

kan they’re a fucking returnee

[storm lantern]

returnees still should have information to be good at the game smh

[amber finch]

you dont need cancels to rl-nirv tbh

unless your acc and team is that shitty

[storm lantern]

you ult after ba3 with the right timing and ba4 goes off giving u sp

[glad ice]

well to some extend returnee would indeed care less about ba4 cancel

[glad ice]

thks now imma try it out

[amber finch]

literally 90% of players wouldnt give a damn abt cancels

anyways should just let them chill and learn how to rotate the team first

cancels when they’re mega malding

[storm lantern]

why would u hide the information from them though

[glad ice]

i think thats a good criteria for a guide video

[storm lantern]

they can decide whether they want to do it for themselves

[glad ice]

u want it to have every bit of infos

[amber finch]

kan i think you’re just too maldy for a channel called #👶beginner-help kek

sure next time i’ll just give them darius’s guide or smt

[storm lantern]

looks like this

[amber finch]

max is 5 emotes

[glad ice]

i managed to do it once

[storm lantern]

yeah i still find it kind of hard tbh

[glad ice]

now i need to find the ryhtm

i think its when she wave the wand 5 times

[amber finch]

did you get muted or smt @shut crow

im still waiting for what the message was

[shut crow]

I sent a message Idk what happened

[amber finch]

like i said, max is 5 emotes

you spammed more than 5

[shut crow]

I said I got too carried away by the music at the back

[amber finch]

oh nothing impt then, have fun playing the game again

[shut crow]

sorry I thought it was discord bug or something

[amber finch]

nah its nothin at all

just telling you incase you dont know abt the cap

[shut crow]

nope didnt know at all thanks for tellinmg

from what I am seeing she is great with fdd

I guess it mostly matters for abyuss

[amber finch]

nah her actual best in slot support is fdd yeah

for her 2nd support it depends on the boss

[shut crow]

FDD IS A SUPPORT?

[amber finch]

all part 2 base S rank valks are both a dps and a support

[glad ice]

p2 valks work as supports if u put them at 2nd and 3rd slot

[junior flume]

hmmm let me check

[storm lantern]

i mean fdd is good but having paws for symphony bonus/badum for sd/ps for hc is more important

[amber finch]

… thats why i said it depends on the boss

[storm lantern]

not saying to backpull obv

[glad ice]

fdd is ignite 😄

[storm lantern]

just saying if they only have chars up to 8.3 its fine

[junior flume]

@serene crystal bad new no

[glad ice]

hmm this cancel look like it can save 2pts each time if u manage to do it consistently

[amber finch]

you’re a new player right

[junior flume]

just got back so sort of

[amber finch]

ya got vita?

[wild field]

hey guys, whats the best way of getting crystals fast

[junior flume]

nope

[storm lantern]

p1 story/chronicles/starter manual

[amber finch]

basically no p2 valks aside from hle? (honestly just send me a screenshot of your valks)

[junior flume]

so all the part 1 is just unsuable ?

[amber finch]

most of them yeah for established players and some supports are pretty good for new players

[wild field]

where are the chronicles? pretty sure i dont have the starter manual cuz my account is so only that im lvl 80 but got no clue where to farm em

[amber finch]

mainly bc new players dont have access to that many p2 valks

[storm lantern]

under voyage log in the top right

[haughty elbow]

where ur ult cancel

[storm lantern]

i just didnt do it

[glad ice]

now ult cancel!

[amber finch]

basically new then, hle coralie rc/ta

[storm lantern]

assuming u mean just releasing at max arrows instead of waiting for it to fire manually

[amber finch]

check pins for a rotation for hle cora rc

[haughty elbow]

yes

[junior flume]

jsut got back so those word kinda hard to understand

[amber finch]

faq for cope gears and teams

[junior flume]

the thing is i try that team

[amber finch]

glossary in pins next time, hle = hi love elf, coralie in this context refers to vbm (valkyrie blastmetal) since you only have her, rc = reverist calico = the cat girl, ta = terminal aide

[junior flume]

and it just not as good as my elysia rn

[shut crow]

god, I have so much to do. I am stuck at visual novel

[junior flume]

she carrying me

[amber finch]

yeah because your hle is literally 4/4

[junior flume]

no i litery try only her no wepon no sigmata

[amber finch]

a new debut valk that’s in anni that’s fully gear will just shit on old cope teams

[junior flume]

she just out damaga and better at many thing

[amber finch]

still wins over using hov, a 6 years old valk as a dps

[junior flume]

yea

[amber finch]

i already told you the team for hle

[junior flume]

so like if she not doing good then im cook

[amber finch]

the rotation for said team

and i also gave you other options

if you’re doing memorial arena (MA)

[junior flume]

just something to farm crystal so yea

why not

so rn i dont have any good valkyries to go with hle right ?

not even suppost ?

[wild field]

cant find it

[odd plume]

unless you pull more, the team in the pin is already the best budget team for HLE

[storm lantern]

what level are you

[odd plume]

maybe you can improve by getting VBM stigmata but that's about it

[glad ice]

attack > start tab > voyage log at bottom right

[wild field]

80..

[amber finch]

yeah since your account is equivalent to a new player’s account

[storm lantern]

[junior flume]

so i just need to focus on getting kiana and behole ?

[amber finch]

no

you focus on saving and pulling for another newly released valkyrie

[junior flume]

arent team like more important then new valkyries ?

[odd plume]

depend on your goal, if you just want good result immediately, yes
but if you are planning for long term, no

[junior flume]

hmmmm

long term is it

[glad ice]

f2p budget team for hle #👶beginner-help message

[odd plume]

short term vs long term investment, unless you whale

[amber finch]

i choose midterm

[junior flume]

that nothing comper to elysia alone bro even she doesnt have anything she still better then the buget team

[glad ice]

elysia? ur new elysia IS hle

[amber finch]

please read the message carefully

it is a budget team for the valk that you’re using

hle alone is good for your level, having supports that give her buffs will make her even better

[junior flume]

ohhhh i though he send me the link to that buget team

mb mb

[wild field]

OHHH rhank u

[junior flume]

sr

[odd plume]

[faint wasp]

can i run hle ps fdd? if so then deos anyone know orhave a ref of what its rotation would look like

[minor flower]

Who would be better to choose, human elysia or truth bronya

[shadow gyro]

either is fine for you, you can wait if youre not sure incase we get any news that can make some considerations
also do you have beginner rush? are you a new player that doesnt mind spending on the game already? this matters because you can get hoh (human ego) from beginner rush if you pay and get hotr (truth) from the box
only hoh got some decent relevancy with her divine key but its not worth backpulling as its not worth the invenstment rn

tldr: wait if you can or pick ur fav

[minor flower]

im a returnee per se not a beginner, i played initially when kiana of finality released, got her then dipped and just came back

[shadow gyro]

hmm then yeah you can either wait or pick ur fav

although i have a suggestion you can do if you want, you can make a new account since you hardly did anything, you can still get hle, if you love vita you can reroll for her and hofi is farmable now, that would give you better rewards on the long run if you wanna
if you care about spending then level rush is good too but i suppose you can take some time to think about it because you just returned

[minor flower]

ill play the game for a bit then decide what ill do, thank you for the great advice

[last meteor]

Why to buy

What

[shadow gyro]

youll have a lot of currency for this but youll buy the 2 value items

[last meteor]

So what to buy first?

[last meteor]

Currency?

[faint wasp]

how bad is backpulling really? Ive been considering trying to backpull for ps weap cuz i got her with the free carnival pulls but the one thing thats stopping me is because backpulling should generally be avoided as advised by people

[shadow gyro]

wishing stars currency

[last meteor]

Is it good?

So what to buy first tho

[faint wasp]

it would also help me get the free thele but i dont think thatll change anything cuz ud typically save after u got new battlesuit and gear

[shadow gyro]

if you have stigmatas to upgrade then the stig level up first
otherwise any of the two first, youll be able to afford both anyways

[last meteor]

Okkkk

[shadow gyro]

not geting the item from release reduses its value overtime as time goes youll have less and less uses for it
and especially for a f2p or light spender what you have would be barely enough to afford debut stuff so you have a better time

for carnival, not only is it a rerun but the pity does not carry over once carnival of the patch ends

only excuse which is debateable so should be asked first is if youre in this scenario but have no shortage in pulls to afford it

carnival is nothing more than a rerun that goes to soon with the free 20 pulls as bait factor

[odd plume]

depend, if you dont have much option and you have enough for new valk too, it's not very bad

[faint wasp]

i see, looking into my acc, i think id avoid it and save? i have 4/4 fdd and hle so... and ig with my spending event currency i can start working my way to 3* kia elf? and then cope weap for ps if i ever use her? cuz she's my current 3rd slot in my hle team

[shadow gyro]

you can use RoB fist dkey as a cope option since u need to level it up for gene limits anyways

her dps will suck so you cant use that but at least you have a team that can use her and ur situation doesnt allow for a backpull so yeah

[autumn oxide]

hi stea

[shadow gyro]

hii

[autumn oxide]

ss1 hh or s2 htr

[faint wasp]

okiii ty for the advice

[shadow gyro]

sairaan's pinned guide explain in details which will help

[faint wasp]

wait what dkey

[shadow gyro]

grips of tai xuan

[faint wasp]

ohhhhh

[raven bane]

is senadina any good

[faint wasp]

ass

[amber finch]

niche

[shadow gyro]

did you get her from beginner supply?

or did you not get her yet

[amber finch]

still has her use in like one singular boss and she does see some uses as a support

[shadow gyro]

because shesnt not a recommended pick

[raven bane]

no

[autumn oxide]

[raven bane]

she doesnt look flashy anyways

[shadow gyro]

yeah shes too niche now so no

[amber finch]

for a new player you should just focus on hle

[raven bane]

hle?

[faint wasp]

i really liked her, so sad

[amber finch]

glossary in pins

freebie: hi love elf

[raven bane]

oh

[shadow gyro]

[autumn oxide]

spoonfeed me cmon

[faint wasp]

may i ask? is the elysia role still available? i just rememebered that now... uh oh i keep forgetting to log in

[raven bane]

tbh hoh elysia looks way better

[last meteor]

Why the best way to get crystals?

[last meteor]

And fast

[autumn oxide]

smhhic

[shadow gyro]

[autumn oxide]

money ''

[last meteor]

Damn

[amber finch]

still another niche valk but newer

[shadow gyro]

alright fine gimme a rundown of ur hoh team vs hotr teams

[amber finch]

he’s not wrong btw

[raven bane]

is thelema and lantern any good would love to get them if they rerun

[amber finch]

if you want alot of crystals AND want them fast then its just money

[last meteor]

Why this game so hungry money

[amber finch]

not really

[last meteor]

It’s really hard to get crystals

[amber finch]

you just wanted alot of crystals in a short amount of time

[last meteor]

Like event gives like one pull even less

[amber finch]

they arent your main crystal source tbf

[last meteor]

And story’s so long

[autumn oxide]

yatta

ss0+1 hh
s2+1 thel
s0+1 sean
s2+1 vita
s0+1 hle

s0+2 hfi
s3 0/4 hoo
s0 1/4 htr, planning on 4/4ing both of them from bp

[amber finch]

do story, qmanifold, elysian realm, etc

[last meteor]

Yes yes

[amber finch]

check the crystal sources link in pins

[shadow gyro]

also niche but
thel is a good pick from spending shop if you have yet to get what you need and get to the spending goal
you can get her or her wp n frags from paid bp as well

[faint wasp]

ur probably used to other games where they give almost 5 pull in a main event

[shadow gyro]

lamp is... errr

[amber finch]

eh ss hohe is already good unless nirv and that trio is dogshit

[autumn oxide]

dogshit for now

[raven bane]

i am broke 😭

[amber finch]

she’s definitely a valkyrie that hoyo released

[autumn oxide]

ive got benny tm newt/cez b for hoo

[shadow gyro]

hoh if u have sera

[autumn oxide]

once i get htr stigs i can swap hoo over to turg too, or even 3pc aslaug

[amber finch]

still shit in abyss anyways

[autumn oxide]

s sera ss sonk

[raven bane]

whats up with lantern she looks dope

[faint wasp]

in starry wishes shop are any of those dkeys not available in workshop? or are they all are? so i can pick whatever?

[amber finch]

straight up the definition of mid on release, nowadays she’s just bad

[amber finch]

soe:ae, star of eden: i fogor the name, the blue and white cannon

[shadow gyro]

hmm idk about s sera but at least if u wanna run hoh o nirv then the extra ranks will actually help

hotr is if that rare img flower boss shows up again or fov boss but it seems it will take u a while to gear her so i would go with hoh then

if u dont care about hoh boss in nirv then hotr rank can help her not feel cringe

[amber finch]

eh yeah i’d hohe

[shadow gyro]

i still pick hoh though

[amber finch]

trio is meh nowadays

[raven bane]

does thelema lantern and vita work well together

[amber finch]

yes, would use sena over vita in some cases tho

[autumn oxide]

most

[amber finch]

unless vita is ranked

[amber finch]

fair

[shadow gyro]

yes or have lamp be the dps and thel as the support
but they cant buff vita

[amber finch]

that’s also thel’s original team

well not really, thel’s original team was cora sena

[autumn oxide]

ss1 hh isnt particularly huge, its just a step toward sss so idk man

[amber finch]

thel’s new best team nowadays should be vita sena

[autumn oxide]

yep that

last raven was that, but that was years ago

[shadow gyro]

since ppl atp should have sss, its worth it esp for nirvana

[raven bane]

would that team perform atleast decent at endgame content

[amber finch]

lets see for this raven if its stillthat

[shadow gyro]

for rl it doesnt matter though, ppl too slack

[amber finch]

“endgame content” is a very general thing, abyss has alot of bosses with different mechanics that caters to different valks

[autumn oxide]

i rarely nirv cos bad coverage

[amber finch]

that team nowadays wouldnt do great in abyss because hoyo doesnt shill them that much anymore

[autumn oxide]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Lb14B7ErU/

9s ran vita hle

[amber finch]

ew

[raven bane]

damn

[amber finch]

not the hle shill smh

[autumn oxide]

9s doesnt fully apply to us but yea

there were some sena hles there but its between those

[amber finch]

yeah 9s (sss on all 3 valks) are pretty much super unrealistic for 90% of players

[autumn oxide]

not for ches tho

[amber finch]

not me trying to follow akayuki’s refs

[amber finch]

smh you’d never catch me using 9s

too cheap

[shadow gyro]

i can suggest u hold off until either a hoh boss or trio boss shows up then u pick based on it

otherwise hotr can help hotr not feel cringe since u wanna gear her

[autumn oxide]

cant hoard the box

well technically u can till dec but another story

[shadow gyro]

it will stay until smth in dec? so no rush

[autumn oxide]

and i aint getting full trio by dec

even if i win free pala i aint getting the balls

[shadow gyro]

i say wait for hoh boss in dec since its her dlc rerun
otherwise get hotr ranks

[raven bane]

what is the best way to unlock A star valk without pulling

[amber finch]

asterite shop

thats how you should get A rank valks

not by pulling, by farming

check pins for a priority list

[raven bane]

is there any way to get fragments cheaper?

[amber finch]

cheaper frags are for dogshit valks that are 9 years old so

[sweet flax]

asterite is very easy to obtain, if you are trying to max every unit in the shop at the same time that might be the only time you run out of it

[amber finch]

if you want smt actually usable then its in ast shop

[raven bane]

does it matter if i spend it all or should i keep some

[amber finch]

asterites? not really, they’re not a rare resource

[raven bane]

okay thanks

[sweet flax]

ches

[amber finch]

here

[sweet flax]

hi

[amber finch]

no

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

I hope you hard pity both valk and weapon

next time you pull

and demote to a3

[amber finch]

too bad i have money bitch

get owned

[sweet flax]

but you dont have hands

[lyric anvil]

Fooking whel

[amber finch]

shit

[lyric anvil]

Kek

[amber finch]

lemme bribe dawei for free hands

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

bro is stuck in a4 despite bigger whel than me

[amber finch]

110k for horb

[sweet flax]

its ok ches, no one blames you

[amber finch]

shuddup 580k topup acc

cant even t1 myriad with that topup smh

[sweet flax]

eu t1 has 9S +3

[raven bane]

is ingame guide trustworthy?

[lyric anvil]

No

[amber finch]

no

[sweet flax]

hasnt been updated since 6.0

[amber finch]

rule of thumb is to never trust ingame guides

its either mega outdated or the devs never played the valk

[amber finch]

what the whale

why is eu more wheel than sea smh

[sweet flax]

on every single valk

[raven bane]

then who is hoh best teammates (a rank)

[amber finch]

no dkey: kira jk
dkey: should be thel hle but need a hohe boss to rerun to know

[amber finch]

if your hohe is ungeared then just ignore her and use your hle

[sweet flax]

depends if you have her dkey or not
if you dont have it, then the shelf where she collects dust on is amazing (for a beginner you can just use jk rc, you get jk from your beginner manual, rc from beginner manual and asterite store as well)
if you have it, thel + sena/vita

[amber finch]

hey hle is being tested as a replacement for vita sena

[sweet flax]

even over s2 vita?

[amber finch]

shit

[raven bane]

i only have trial hle

[amber finch]

we need more tests smh

no hohe shill yet

[sweet flax]

you go test for us then smh

[autumn oxide]

he alr is in a3

[sweet flax]

my condolences ches

[amber finch]

WHARRR

i cant takenthis slander

[sweet flax]

I didnt know you were at your lowest

[lyric anvil]

Ches demoted

[amber finch]

life’s been hard man

i need to whel a minium of 200 per hour to retain rl

[lyric anvil]

[amber finch]

dang wait lemme check if this faq has a hohe team

[autumn oxide]

rc kira probs

[amber finch]

yeah it does

@raven bane if you’re pretty new

[amber finch]

A kira is ehh ngl

ss+ for reel

[autumn oxide]

rc ta

[amber finch]

yeah thats it

[sweet flax]

better than si

[autumn oxide]

im not washed damn

[amber finch]

[autumn oxide]

i still rmb my shit

[amber finch]

prof when

[autumn oxide]

u first

[amber finch]

honestly you’d prob be perma banned if you applied for prof

[lyric anvil]

[autumn oxide]

i cant prof cos ive been toxic

[amber finch]

mf and im better?

[autumn oxide]

probably

[amber finch]

yeah

[daring oak]

is HoS a good support?

[autumn oxide]

old

[amber finch]

she’s a phys support but she’s way too old nowadays

tldr: practically useless

[autumn oxide]

she is decent on newer accs for cope shit till u get a p2 s rank that covers it

tbf u can brute force with whatever p2 s rank u get but yea

[daring oak]

for like content in the entire game? or like end game stuff?

[autumn oxide]

former

[amber finch]

just everything, she’s bad at everything nowadays

[autumn oxide]

mostly implying abyss/qmani since thats the more competitive gamemode where shit matters

[amber finch]

for a new player she’s usable yeah

[daring oak]

ah fair enough, well at least she looks cool

[amber finch]

unless its some random story stage that allows you to freely use your own valks

[autumn oxide]

gears for her matter too

depending on what ure using her for

support? she wants cosmic sswords/ovt ala mb
dps? brick peri

theres some cases where senpri wld be preferred over cosmic too but yea it gets really niche

and thats just for general teamplay, theres specific strats for memorial where she can use other gear

[daring oak]

well, im just casual and only really play for story or new content so I doubt ill ever use her but she seems cool

[autumn oxide]

and mostly for ss bosses too since the p2 valks just come with infinite tf/slow/susani

[autumn oxide]

oh yea then u can ignore most of what i said

[tawny robin]

out of curioucity its even posible to beat vill in normal time without bleed (abyss)?

[glad ice]

nah im afraid not. u cant beat her starting 3 guns phase without bleeds

[autumn oxide]

not entirely

u can use a non bleed dps but sub out a support for si

[autumn oxide]

ive previously done runs with things like fov htr si, where si ran turg tb cez m

[glad ice]

u need at least 1 bleed, even if thats ur weakest character

the team of 2 p2 and 1 p1 bleed valk is still fine

[tawny robin]

okay got it in more acceptable time

pawn, b!f-dd and quickasnd

[glad ice]

why i see cope everywhere each time its bleed boss

[lilac reef]

Is this a real comp?

[glad ice]

WoD

[lilac reef]

It's just funny seeing two Elysias

[glad ice]

hohe can also supp hle in GoI

yeah we need another ely valk for the team

[tawny robin]

i had to skip sus everytime she was even on reruns or smt but prob when she get her proper rerun not carnival or this other one that not share pity and i started to play from p2

[lilac reef]

I see

[glad ice]

i used them in the ice sidestage

[lilac reef]

It's better for HoHe leader on the sidestage yea?

[glad ice]

yeah for countering those mechs

i just dont like WoD gameplay much

[lilac reef]

[glad ice]

best team only save some times

i dont have trouble clearing it so imma try hle hohe

[lilac reef]

I assume HLE is on field when out of SO?

[glad ice]

huh? ofc. after SO finisher i still can do a short dps sequence of hle until buffs run out

[lilac reef]

I was thinking it's a similar playstyle to HoHe's old team where Thelema was doing bulk of the damage out of SO

[glad ice]

isnt that bcs hohe weak lol

[lilac reef]

true fair enough lmao

[gilded ether]

is there a problem with using the only weapon i have to craft it's pri-arm or i must pull for another one for that?

[quick birch]

nah you can just use the weapon you currently have

pri arming it is really just an upgrade with no downsides

[glad ice]

use it to get a better version of it lol

[gilded ether]

Oh okay
was just confused because i remember hearing that pri-arming requires that you have the same weapon twice or smth like that

[quick birch]

you're probably thinking of synergies

[glad ice]

yeah synergy require another copy

[gilded ether]

and what does synergising a weapon do?

[glad ice]

it has roman number 2 and then 3

[quick birch]

it increases some passives on the weapon, a good upgrade when you get 2 weapons in a ten pull but not something f2ps should go for

for whales the upgrade is pretty good in comparison to how many pulls you're spending

[gilded ether]

I see
thanks for explaining the stuff 💙

[vapid plinth]

hiii i just got he new horb weapon but ive noticed that it was also a dkey what should i do w it im kinda lost lol (haven't crafted her stigs yet&didnt lvl up the weapon also i dont have her og set)

[serene crystal]

After you upgrade it it will ask you to tune it do this and go into your dorm and you can set it as a dkey under stellar keys for a free 10 global attack bonus to all your valks.

[glad ice]

no need og set

[vapid plinth]

so i upgrade it first ? and then i'll have it as a dkey and also use it as her weapon, should i craft the new set ?

[serene crystal]

og set is supplanted by new set and you can should only use new set in p2 teams

[vapid plinth]

okay! so tuning it doesn't make it unusable for horb ? i thought it did lol

[serene crystal]

No it makes it unusable for any other priarm then HoRB's but as all p2 Priarms can only be forged from the precursor weapon this doesn't matter.

[glad ice]

tune = make it become divine key = cant salvage = cant use as priarm fodder for other weapon than itself

[proud maple]

I have one question..if I make a new account and get Lucky..will it be possible for me to form an entire team around elysia? @celest orbit

@glad ice

@serene crystal

[sweet flax]

Yes, theres a pin that goes over a beginner team set up

Also by pulling upcoming units in the future you already established a foundation by owning hle

[proud maple]

So high love elf is a mandatory character to have

@sweet flax

[glad ice]

if u lucky. u can get hle from banner, sushang/badum from carnival free pull. u still need another valk

[sweet flax]

Not mandatory, but shes one of the better units to own, since she can support a wide variety of rings including the newest one which will get more units

[proud maple]

Wish Coralie was here..

[proud maple]

I am happy to hear that

[glad ice]

b!fd banner is after horb dlc

[proud maple]

So I need to get lucky

[glad ice]

yes. u need to get lucky 3 times

[fluid grove]

how do u get another bridge? what exactly is the mall? u buy them with irl money? or do u pull for them or what

[arctic idol]

Guys I have elysia her weapon but idk how to get the last stigmata I have the first 2

[glad ice]

there is a stigmata box from login did u use it? @arctic idol

[glad ice]

on bridge, at left side is MISSIONS/BONUSES/etc. Mall is the lowest one and most of its items are b-chip. the f2p bridge should be sold in xtal btw

[sweet flax]

Bridges arent available at the moment, maybe in 2 patches when cny rolls around they'll appear in the store but only hoyo knows really

[glad ice]

part 2 bridge will be the location u 're currently in, oxia/ruimu/hyperion bridge. some places are only available in certain chapters

[wheat idol]

should i build Susannah if i have no quantum and bleed dps

or should i wait for whenever sushang gets added to bp

[glad ice]

no. u will get better result/efficiency by using a cheap bleed provider, for example loliGriseo, with 2 p2 valks

[wheat idol]

should i grind out cezanne for griseo or just anything

[glad ice]

u dont have to. but it will help a lot if u do

wait nah. not worth it

u dont use her anywhere else

[odd plume]

nothing really wrong with crafting it if you have the mat

[wheat idol]

what should i run for the mean time

[odd plume]

are you in EX red lotus?

[glad ice]

6000 fuel isnt that easy to come by

[wheat idol]

i recently demoted

[storm lantern]

cez b is pretty useful as far as foundry stigs go

[odd plume]

usable if nothing better

me in A2

[glad ice]

if u have mats go for it. im just worry about the number of situation u will need it in abyss

[odd plume]

not like you have much use for foundry mat

[wheat idol]

ill just run whatever until a new pt2 bleed comes out

[glad ice]

if u need to forge p2 stig its still 1800 fuel each

[wheat idol]

currently when its bleed weather i score rlly badly

[odd plume]

if you have enough red lens for 1 set, fuel isnt a problem

[glad ice]

huh? prism stig require red lens?

i thought its just prism and fuel

[odd plume]

no but you need red lens for g4, and it take very long to have enough red lens that if you have enough for 1 g4 set, you should have lot of fuel too

[glad ice]

isnt the only grindable red lens 10 stack weekly in ER?

[odd plume]

i think i should have around 10k fuel with like 40 red lens

[glad ice]

if u want more u have to exchange from red reso

[reef sand]

How and where do I get these items to activate the Astral Ring of the Herrscher of Human?

[lone crater]

gacha

[glad ice]

benediction currently is gacha only. u have to wait until hoyo open its gacha banner

[reef sand]

Could you show me a picture or tell me exactly what these items are?

[amber finch]

Flawless Benediction is her new gacha weapon

[wheat idol]

i think i broke her

[glad ice]

u broke ur pc
jk. from my experience unity/fmod games tend to float up after length of play and need a restart

[amber finch]

this is what allows her to have the astral ring system @reef sand

“how do i get it” - by gacha-ing

“where is it” - currently it’s not on any banners

you can check for when and what banners will have a rerun with the calendar in #💁gameplay-help pins

[arctic idol]

Yes

[glad ice]

last resort is to craft it in foundry. u need 2 prism for this

[frosty kernel]

Its the second phase banner we know it yet?

[glad ice]

bfdd banner after horb dlc, u can check gameplay-help pins

[reef sand]

What bad luck I have. (I forgot to use the translator)

[frosty kernel]

Oh thats not what i meant

[amber finch]

?

[glad ice]

carnival then

[frosty kernel]

I just checked is it only durandal?

Wtf

[glad ice]

durandal where?

[frosty kernel]

After hle

[amber finch]

if you meant for the next 4 weeks after hle then yes it’s only mini dudu on the main valk banner, there are different banners too but we dont know what’ll be in them

[frosty kernel]

My god thought there was gonna be another rerun for equipment banner besides that

Was hoping fb dk but i guess not

[amber finch]

we dont know everything about the entire patch, we are just following the CN server

cn = china/chinese

[glad ice]

yeah usually should be an ascension of sort

[frosty kernel]

So its possible there is more to come?

I know we following the chinese for the rundown

[amber finch]

guaranteed, they wont just throw a random dog bone as bait

[frosty kernel]

Alright then

[amber finch]

they need to bait players more so they can rack in them cash

so yeah just one banner for a month wont suffice that

[glad ice]

if only RS it would be so empty

[amber finch]

way too empty

[glad ice]

lol its hohe dlc

and hohe pyramid outfit

[frosty kernel]

It is?

[glad ice]

"yeah after getting hohe free surely our customer will need her gear and her skin"

[frosty kernel]

I was kinda hoping for that

[frosty kernel]

Money 🤑

Damn i didnt log in for a week

[hollow mortar]

Can someone help me make team I'm new I accidentally choose this white hair girl instead of elysia I'm gonna cry

[amber finch]

oops wrong channel

my bad my bad

[amber finch]

you’re still very new, basically anything goes in story

this should be your team for awhile

glossary is in pins

here’s a freebie:

• hle = hi love elf
• vbm = valkyrie blastmetal
• rc = reverist calico

check this for what gears to use

what was dat @glad ice

[glad ice]

nah im dont want hi3 discord reputation to be full of mean ppl

u r enough

[amber finch]

erm?

im tame smh

[sweet flax]

[lone tide]

hiya i don't know the flamechasers, what buffs does this mean i should pick?

also does it matter that my hle isn't level 80 to do 2.5x difficulty? im only lv51

[glad ice]

the buffs are for their specified flamechasers signets

for example Kalpas is Decimation, if u wanna build/pick up his signets in play, u tick the buff with "Decimation"

valks in ER are automatically modified to lvl80 stat. u dont need to worry about lvl