👶beginner-help

[eternal spindle]

what do i get in the starry wishes shop? i already got the prism stigma lvl up voucher thingie, idk if i should save 750 for the box or should i spend on sth else

[quick birch]

yeah HLE's weapon is currently on equipment supply A, the bow

[amber finch]

equipment supply A (the bow)

[amber finch]

should’ve gotten the box first then the ticket

[grim sinew]

ohh oki thankss

[amber finch]

save for the box

[amber finch]

if you get the bow then just stop pulling even if you’re missing some stigmata btw

they’re craftable in foundry and you’re given one for free from the login event

[grim sinew]

I see thanks!

[eternal spindle]

is she still good? jumpscared me outa nowhere single pulling on dorm supplies

[amber finch]

not usable in the meta nowadays also, single pulling? with crystals?

[eternal spindle]

no free pulls

[amber finch]

if you’ve already completed the 20 pulls in dorm mission for the spending event then you should start to hoard more dorm supply tickets btw

because you’ll be spending another 20 in 2 patches

[amber finch]

oh congrats then, remember the golden rule of gacha-ing, never spend any crystals in dorm

[eternal spindle]

oh what is worth getting in the box? i should still be able to get it, just getting the voucher so i can lvl 50 hle stig

[amber finch]

soe:ae

star of eden: whatever its called

the blue and white cannon

since it’s the only dkey in the box that’s not in bp

you can also just save the box btw

[amber finch]

ah found the name

star of eden: anti entropy

[potent crow]

guys what Affixes I need for PS?

[coarse delta]

i need some team comps for hi love elf, yall have any suggestions?

[lone crater]

just atk

[potent crow]

crit is not good?

[lone crater]

crit does nothing and most of her atks r bleed, so crit dmg not that good

[potent crow]

thanks

[boreal rampart]

Am I cooked this bleed weather without Sushang...

[potent crow]

I pulled her on carnival just bcus im cooked every bleed weather

[boreal rampart]

Before p2 update this is my team for bleed

[boreal rampart]

I won't have enough for her

I'm in agony 3 btw
Promoted last cycle with hle horb sena team

[odd plume]

should be enough for A3

maybe low rank

[potent crow]

Almost everyone in A3 have PS tho

[boreal rampart]

Yea that's the issue 😭

[odd plume]

problem is how good they use PS

[boreal rampart]

What if everyone im competing with has Sushang...

[odd plume]

they are in A3 with full team for a reason

still have decent chance

[boreal rampart]

Sena is the leader btw, forgot to say that smh

[boreal rampart]

Hmm ok

So I just use hle team right?

[lyric anvil]

Not bad cope for Sa tbf

[dusty tartan]

Should I do 3 of these a day as a new player?

[odd plume]

yes

can do it however you want as long as you use all 20 attempts

[dusty tartan]

What about expeditions? Or should I prioritize story and use expeditions as a filler?

[serene crystal]

you want to clear them at one point for the crystal reward and then use them for excess stamina in dorm

[boreal rampart]

Personally I use stamina to complete chronicles missions, cause they give 150 crystals if you get all the achievements there
It's in voyage anectdotes btw

Well they give like 3k crystals in total for all chapters but yea

[odd plume]

p1 story and OW task are the main usages for stamina at the early game, you will want to clear everything for first time reward but they aren't important early game

[dusty tartan]

Oh ok, I forgot about chronicle missions. So avoid expeditions for now?

[odd plume]

after you clear most of p1 story, you can focus more on expedition for AE imaginon and maybe some other fragments

[dusty tartan]

ok got it, ty again!

[winged veldt]

what are these eden1 kalpas2? can't find where to look this numbering

[odd plume]

the core signet

[shut frigate]

So I finally got ely's weapon, for the final 5 free pulls should I just use it for char pulls? Do pull tickets carry over?

[odd plume]

after you got 3 signet from a FC, you can pick a core signet

[odd plume]

what final free pull?

[shut frigate]

The 15 free pulls thing from the 7 day login, theres the final 5 pree pulls

[winged veldt]

like how do I know which one is 1 or 2?

[shut frigate]

The only part 2 characters I have is HLE and FDD VBM and normal helia

[odd plume]

we dont really count it as "free pull"
free pull is mostly something specific that you can't use anywhere else, like carnival ticket or the free 10 pull on HLE banner

[shut frigate]

Ohhh

[odd plume]

the 15 card you got is the same as crystal

so just save if you dont pull horb dkey

[shut frigate]

Alrightie

[odd plume]

1 is the first core, 2 is the second core, pretty straightforward

[winged veldt]

ok thanks. I thought it would be randomly appear when choosing.

[odd plume]

always the same for the 2 core

[maiden garden]

Can I get the outfit just by f
Dailies + abyss and ma(masters)

Or would I need to do some grinding

[faint wasp]

can i say shit to meta and pull for HoHe dkey if it ever coems even tho i have hle?

its even possible to run them both right? i think i can get thele in the spending event, but i dont have any plans buying bp tho

[shadow gyro]

if you have story to grind and have yet to get what you need for gacha (depends though if you can talk about it) then yeah there's still time
otherwise it's not worth pulling random stuff just to get the skin

[shadow gyro]

well if you're obsessed with hoh then no one can stop you
it will rerun but after the spending event where you should prefer to dave instead
and yes they can work with either other
although hle doesn't really need hoh but hoh will probably use her in her own bosses

[maiden garden]

I see

I'll just play and see how much xtals I collect by the end of the event and if if I want the unit on banner

Oh durandal is after hle?!
Ah but it's gotten quite old
Ig fdd is a better pickup for my team

[shadow gyro]

do you already have hle?
also do you have horb?

[maiden garden]

No orb

I have hle 4/4 and paws missing weapon

I do think I'll miss her weapon (fdd) but only other goi unit I'm interested in is Kiana which is probably not rerunning soon

Other recent units don't intrest me that much either

[shadow gyro]

you would stop pulling atp
but if you really insist then at least put some pulls on fdd wp

[faint wasp]

when is the only time do u ever consider pulling for astralops

[shadow gyro]

if you wanna retain nirvana, but you need a solid amount of valks first to get to nirv

[odd plume]

when you have money and is very competitive

[maiden garden]

Chenxue has such an amazing design

Wish she was a battlesuit instead

[shadow gyro]

same tbh

[faint wasp]

ig thats a no even in most cases

[odd plume]

if you are a competitive player, having newly released valk is important, but you wont have enough for astralop as a f2p, so some money is needed, maybe you can get away with it in NA and with a bit of luck

[shadow gyro]

that's bc rl and a3 just needs you to pull recent valks with gear, aop won't make any difference
i beat gachaop players in rl everytime

[faint wasp]

is it always every new recent valk or can it be every other and just be smart w it

[shadow gyro]

technically there's ma in some cases if you wanna score better on sss bosses but no strong reason to get them for that when you're not getting any more crystals compared to ppl that wanna retuan nirv where gachaop is very important

[shadow gyro]

depends on ur funds, you skip who u can't afford or if there's a likelihood that the next valk may be better or its a major patch

you can't afford all after all unless you whale

[odd plume]

not always, you could somewhat feel what you need more when you tryhard

[faint wasp]

i see

[ancient needle]

No AOs is almost impossible in Nirv nowadays

In EU/NA at least

[amber finch]

awa ditched the ds life long ago

[ancient needle]

You can get one as an F2P if your valk + gear pulls went very well, but only if S is actually good

SS is too expensive

[amber finch]

aops are just needed for nirb now huh

[ancient needle]

So Teri and arguably Sera

[amber finch]

wait s sera?

[ancient needle]

She's okay

Good enough for the price

[amber finch]

damn i should stop watching whale refs lmao

[shadow gyro]

i agree to this
i used to remember when the "ds is also good enough for nirv" advice was given but that was a while ago with lower dis lmao and less aops than we have now

[ancient needle]

I'm not saying to backpull them btw

[ancient needle]

Like with valks you wanna prioritize the newest ones

[amber finch]

ds nowadays is def not enough for nirb anymore

especially when her sss skills are fuckijg dogshit

[ancient needle]

Tbf we haven't had a typeless boss with SSS yet

[timid pilot]

hi guys!!
does gacha for skins counts into spending?

[ancient needle]

We have one rn tbf

[amber finch]

yes

[shadow gyro]

im like 40+ scores away from an s gachaop run, i mean i also have lower atk but 😭

[timid pilot]

thanks!!

[amber finch]

its literally just 6% tdm or smt, its so sad

[ancient needle]

It's 5% TDT

[amber finch]

oh wait

[odd plume]

just hope for free AO in spending shop

[amber finch]

thats not bad actually

[ancient needle]

[amber finch]

ok next complain

10 sp, who needs 10 sp nowadays?

[shadow gyro]

ig since hoh dkey is in schedule we'll have ice fox

but uhh sera exist

[odd plume]

they will get powercrept eventually

[amber finch]

and why did that skill alone eat like 10 of my aop thingies

[ancient needle]

Shouldn't that be HLE's boss now tho

[shadow gyro]

dunno, didn't see anything about it yet

[amber finch]

unless hohe thel hle wins?

i mean, triple ice and fox favors ice valks right

[ancient needle]

ig that's possible

No Breach tho

[shadow gyro]

even if its a hle boss sss ds aint doing shit against whale chen havers oh no no no

[amber finch]

ss chen for da win

[ancient needle]

But ig the ARI farm could compensate

[amber finch]

wait didnt hle replace sena/vita for hohe

[ancient needle]

Not sure here, we'll see

[shadow gyro]

yeah, i would assume thel get kicked bc she doesn't have breach + older than vita
but ill wait as well

[amber finch]

nah hohe would definitely just die without thel

[shadow gyro]

ig u can on field hle a bit + vita having on field time
thel's eva trick is utilised against fox though

[amber finch]

its also a dmg thing, hle’s too slow

and hohe is literally useless outside of so

@ancient needle this if after 1.2k locks and 40k nccs

i scrapped around for another 800 locks and im still stuck with 15.5

one stig btw, just o n e

[shadow gyro]

hmm yeah, ill just wait for ppl to test it when fox is there again

[amber finch]

that one stig alone ate more nccs and locks than my hle and horb combined

[shut frigate]

Have past divine keys ever reran? Like HoFI? I wanna know if hohe could get hers

[odd plume]

||hoh dkey is getting a rerun near the end of this patch||

[serene crystal]

Also you can see the banner pattern on https://www.arustats.com/en-us/hi3/timeline/8.5 where you can see they the d-keys have rerun relatively frequently

[shut frigate]

||Oh? I better save up for itthen||

[eternal spindle]

is it too risky to pull on the other weapon banner when im pulling for hle weapon? cuz i have 2 of her stigma set before even getting her weapon now and it feels like a waste

[quick birch]

it definitely is too risky, keep pulling on HLE weapon banner, p2 stigmata are completely craftable so it wouldnt make any sense to risk pulling another weapon which you can't utilise for stigmata that are craftable and which you also couldnt really utilise. You also want dupe stigmata as a prism source since prisms can become a bottleneck especially for beginners

[eternal spindle]

fair enough, thanks

[ivory magnet]

Is the new elysia char worth it? Just coming back lol last time i played hos was meta

[boreal rampart]

Yes

Also it's best to start with a fresh account

Cause hos is irrelevant now

[ivory magnet]

Okok thanks

[boreal rampart]

Get hle and weapon btw 🫶

[ivory magnet]

Ok i somehow got her first 10

LMAO

[boreal rampart]

How...

[ivory magnet]

Should i just keep my lvl 80 acc or just start fresh

[boreal rampart]

Ok now go for weapon

Hmmm

[ivory magnet]

12 pulls im guaranteed for weap

Plus i already got all her mods

I mean, stigmatas

Should i just keep going?

[storm lantern]

yes

dont get new valks without their weapon

[boreal rampart]

Yea get hle weapon

[ivory magnet]

Thanks guys

[boreal rampart]

Since you got hle early I'd say keep that account
You're gonna have a hard time in endgame tho cause most part 1 characters are irrelevant

[storm lantern]

well u could also reroll

a new rerolled account would be better but if u dont want to do it then dont

[maiden garden]

Haii, I’ve done the manifold and it says that my final result is promotion, will I be able to do agony next week?

[boreal rampart]

Yes assuming you're in sinful rank (I barely remember how manifold works but I think sinful is below agony)

[maiden garden]

Yess, so I have to wait for uhh how long again to do manifold again?

Uh is s2 any way better than s0 or you have to get to ss to see any upgrade?

I got her super early well more like 20-30 pity(I shouldn't be pulling 😭 but gambling addiction)

[boreal rampart]

Monday

[storm lantern]

if only there was some way to have known this before you pulled but alas

[simple remnant]

AHM... I CANT DOO THE ABYSS BOSS-

[maiden garden]

So s2 doesn't do anything meaningful?(even 10% would make me feel better haha)

[boreal rampart]

Use a bleed character

[maiden garden]

Atp i think I should just fish for another early ely

[simple remnant]

could this work?

[storm lantern]

10% is really high for s2 in this game im not sure anything is that good

[boreal rampart]

Oh I thought you have ps 😭

[simple remnant]

no- :c

[boreal rampart]

Well I don't have ps either so I'm kinda cooked too

[boreal rampart]

What rank are you btw

[storm lantern]

but it is meaningful, significantly less meaningful than other stuff you could have spent the pulls on

[simple remnant]

im in agony I

[maiden garden]

Oh
I see

Also another copy means I can have ss?
How strong is it compared to s

[boreal rampart]

Oh I thought you're in agony 3 too...

[maiden garden]

True but me can't save my pulls haha

[storm lantern]

usually people use si as the bleed support even though she doesnt increase damage at all

[glad ice]

si is better than ce

[simple remnant]

im using her cause i have her with weapon and even pri arm but no stigmata, she is the only bleeding charac ter i have leveled up-

so idk who to use tbh

[timid pilot]

guys, do we know who they’ll add to reverse works in bp next patch or no? or maybe any thoughts who this might be

[storm lantern]

well im pretty sure she still doesnt support ice

[simple remnant]

probably not- :c

[glad ice]

bcs of si ult last 10sec giving continuos bleed

[storm lantern]

so any weapon buffs dont matter

[boreal rampart]

What if ce is sss and 4/4...
I also wanna ask for team ideas cause idk how to do the boss without bleed
Hold on lemme get my lineup

[glad ice]

nope. they r used as bleed giver. their dmg is ignorable

[simple remnant]

so theres no team i could use in here?

[glad ice]

use ur si

even 0/4

[glad ice]

just put down her ult and switch to the other 2

[boreal rampart]

Ohh
I see...

[boreal rampart]

These are my only relevant characters with full gear except for some

Just ask which ones have their gear xd

[boreal rampart]

So I just don't switch to si until I need the bleed application right?

[glad ice]

best way is use si ult before u switch to the dps (hle). the ult last 10 second and bleed last 5s so u have like 15s to do dps stuff

[simple remnant]

omg I CANT

[glad ice]

yeah u cant in the SO. idk if using Si ult before SO work or not but thats the best u can do atp

[simple remnant]

the second bar of the boss

where she is in the car?

idk what to do there- she just keeps hitting so hard-

[glad ice]

just dps like usual? at last bar she will leave the car then u need to do bleed trauma to kill her early

[simple remnant]

OMG

NOT THE BEST SCORE BUT I DID IT- TYSM-

i thought you needed bleed yes or yes when she gets on the car

[glad ice]

maybe u have trouble in phase 2 because u didnt dodge the transition phase bullet hell and get hit more than 5 times? u need to not get hit more than 5 times to get a bonus dmg vs the car

[simple remnant]

oh, ic, let me try again

[glad ice]

they lack a cue about this btw. the hit count only appear if u get hit by the bullet

there is a sword buff if u manage to complete transition phase

[lunar dew]

who should i get?

[sweet flax]

have you already given the first pin a read

[lunar dew]

no sorry

[glad ice]

i'm not reading that MBA essay

[sweet flax]

no need to apologize, sairaan just mentioned all possible cases so you might find it more helpful
feel free to ask if you still have any other questions though

[lunar dew]

i might do HoT because i have a 4/4 HoO

[sweet flax]

hotr is more reliant on owning hofi + dkey

hoo doesnt use hotr as her support if she is used as the dps

[boreal rampart]

Idk what I did wrong but my p1 team did a better score

[sweet flax]

does your horb have dkey?

[lunar dew]

so do i try to get more stamps

[haughty elbow]

she does about half of the time

[boreal rampart]

Yes

[sweet flax]

isnt that just trio with hoo lead.... which needs hofi anyways

[boreal rampart]

I have both her p1 and p2 gear

[haughty elbow]

why are u using hoo without hofi

[sweet flax]

I was asking them if they had hofi and havent gotten a response, so I told them that she wouldnt be used with hoo

[boreal rampart]

I'm in agony 3 btw

[sweet flax]

to be fiar if your ce is geared, she is going to constantly apply bleed while SI's bleed is limited and needs to be timed properly to get the most DPS output

[sweet flax]

what's your hohe's current rank?

[glad ice]

constantly apply bleed?

[lunar dew]

s1

[sweet flax]

does her weapon into ult not apply bleed?

[boreal rampart]

I see

[glad ice]

doesnt the bleed run out if u switch out

[sweet flax]

he's using ce as the dps...

[boreal rampart]

I don't have any good bleed dps ok 💔

[sweet flax]

that is a more common issue than you may think lmfao

[glad ice]

using si as bleed giver in p2 should score higher than ce p1 dps, that's wat i thought

[sweet flax]

if she has her dkey, hohe ranks can be pretty nice increase for her dps
but tbh you can also consider hotr for elysian realm crystals as well since you can unlock her there

depends which you prefer

[lunar dew]

also after a week i can get HLE because my pity is at 10

[sweet flax]

unless hohe has her dkey, neither of the two can provide any benefits to hle

[lunar dew]

i should just do the crystals

[sweet flax]

should be ye, that's how my bleed weathers went with si cope
but again, gear can make a huge difference
especially considering that the rot is very specific for p2 team while p1 team is more straightforward

[glad ice]

anw 500-600 score in a3 wont give me any hope though

[maiden garden]

Can't seem to be able to clear in 120 seconds

How do you even break the sheild of the boss

Also my rotation is ely skill then ult switch to paws ult and switch to ely and repeat

Should I start incorporating vbm in rotations
Also that would require me to build her right?

[glad ice]

if u using ele dmg u dont need to break the shield

u indeed need to use vbm. what did u put on her

[maiden garden]

Nothing
I don't have anything related to her

[maiden garden]

Ah i see

[glad ice]

btw u can try paws dps. she counter dxy if she's on the horse

[maiden garden]

So I'll need to do p2 story for her sig (I heard you get it from there) and then craft stigs for her

That's so much work

[maiden garden]

Oh i didn't have her weapon so I wondered if it works

I'll try that

What's ely rotation for paws dps

[storm lantern]

not how you play goi, you trigger your support buffs then use your main dps until you need to refresh buffs

[glad ice]

0/4 vbm is fine. u can just do her flashing weapon atk/or her ult

[storm lantern]

in ring it's complicated

[glad ice]

in ring? vbm ulting is quickest ig. u dont get any SP buff anw. need to keep her ult ready then

[maiden garden]

For ring i paws eba then ely skill skill ult and then ult
But it ends the ring state immediately

[storm lantern]

if ur just doing skill ult end ring u dont need to switch to paws

[glad ice]

u need to start the ring with the dps

the dps routine will be longer: ely weap weap ult paws ult CA ult ely weap weap ult ult

[maiden garden]

I do that but immediately switch

Guess the one you sent makes sense

[storm lantern]

wdym 3 paws ult

[glad ice]

idk i just spam it, doesnt she do 3rd ult ver > CA > finisher?

[storm lantern]

in ring the first ult she does is the 3rd version

as support

[glad ice]

yep. then the CA then the finisher thats 3 moves no?

[storm lantern]

ca isnt ult though

[quick birch]

no need to do the 3rd ult ver if you're already doing finisher

[raven bane]

help i just clicked reunited under light of faith thingy and it changed my background

[glad ice]

oh right ill edit to ult CA ult

[maiden garden]

Click the top left thingy

The bluish purple one

[storm lantern]

its good damage for like 2 pt loss

[quick birch]

fair but i doubt they need that damage in q mani tbh

[quick birch]

click on your name -> change bridge in the bottom left corner -> change it to the p1 bridge

[glad ice]

background is part2 hyperion bridge. u can change back by clicking ur name and then choose "change bridge" at bottom left

[raven bane]

it also unlocked astralop thingy

i think i fucked up

[glad ice]

the problem was "cant finish boss in 120s"

[quick birch]

ah i see, worth a try then ig

[quick birch]

any reason why you think that ? from what i can see you entered p2 story and that's a good thing just makre sure you're starting from chapter 1 since you can get VBm's weapon from there and the story isnt connected to p1 until you reach p2 chapter 3ex

[glad ice]

i think he will with paws dps. type counter is significant boost

[raven bane]

it unlocked every single story shit and account perks for those story quests i mean i dont really mind them but it would be nice if everything went back normal

[opal palm]

does vita have a representative emoji?

[glad ice]

do u mean u wanna go back to p1 story progress

[quick birch]

that's just sadly how it is, a lot unlocks at level 30 and it might be overwhelming at first but we can help you navigate through it

[raven bane]

yeah

[raven bane]

astralop and other stuff didnt appear when i first reached lvl30 all of this shi appeared with just a click of a button

[glad ice]

astralop is p2 exclusive along with astral ring so it will come online when u start part2

[quick birch]

ah then you can just do, attack -> start -> story -> the moon's origin and finality

[raven bane]

whatever ig it doesnt really affect anything major atleast

[maiden garden]

Ah guess I cleared but no where close enough

Well this is my third time falling out of rl

[glad ice]

about the astral OP its permanent on ur bridge im afraid. but the elfs are also in there

[storm lantern]

u can go back to p1 bridge if u want

[honest pilot]

Where am I supposed to get ELFs?

[storm lantern]

spending events

one was also given for free in a normal event in the past

[honest pilot]

Ah, I was gonna say I didn't see any in the current spending event

But lo and behold

Thank you ❤️

Ah, so we get 75 parts per spending event, and need 150 to complete an ELF unit? 👁️ 👄 👁️

Ah, wrong again, it's 2 per purchased pack, so 150 in total

[abstract sequoia]

you get 150 parts

yeah

don't forget that rank ups also cost fragments though

which you want to do for those elfs that are actually useful nowadays, like Kiaelf

[lone tide]

what should i spend my asterite on?

[abstract sequoia]

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[lone tide]

thx

[abstract sequoia]

no problem

ask if you have questions about this

[lone tide]

i was wanting to craft fws kiana a weapon n wondering if spending asterite on the mats was worth it
seems like not

i do use vbm coralie so ill prioritize her

[abstract sequoia]

not really since her damage is pretty bad without signature weapon anyway. Her support capabilities wouldn't change either

[lone tide]

oh, should i be leveling her? im around lv50

[abstract sequoia]

yes go ahead

[lone tide]

good to know then

[sweet flax]

you'll be using vbm for a really long time

[abstract sequoia]

to make you aware of her purpose, she will be your best early game carry damage-wise. later she will offer a fully geared support slot for every astral ring team where you lack 3 gacha valks

[lone tide]

hmm
ye that checks out

im using her w hle and fws kiana so that's also nice

[abstract sequoia]

yea sounds like a solid team for now

as long as HLE is leading with signature weapon

[lone tide]

yeps!

[maiden garden]

good stigmata for HLE?

[serene crystal]

crit dmg does nothing but the other affix is max value

[abstract sequoia]

only physical valks can crit

[glad ice]

crit dmg does nothing for hle

[abstract sequoia]

#💁gameplay-help message

[maiden garden]

Do I save this?

[abstract sequoia]

i explained things more im detail here for affixes

[glad ice]

turn/salvage them to prism

[abstract sequoia]

salvage for prisms

no other valk will find use with prism stigmas

[storm lantern]

the only thing u might need them for is damage control as a support

[glad ice]

some stig are usable. but it will be a waste of material for upgrading dupe. salvage is final answer anw

[storm lantern]

but thats pretty niche and it's only ever happened to me once that i needed to do that

not with hle obv

[maiden garden]

I also have another questions, where can I get more crytals? I've done some events already

[serene crystal]

see the crystal sources pin

[maiden garden]

ooooo that's a lot of crystal sources

[worn basin]

ello i need some help should i pri arm key of ego for hohe? or save the 5 star weap to use as material for pri arm divine key if it returns

also- is it known when the divine key might return? im kinda broke rn since i spent all on ellie...

[serene crystal]

If you are tight on material then don't pri arm as key of ego does nothing in p2 teams and they are the only viable ones for her in Abyss.

[worn basin]

aight thank u !!

[sweet flax]

right after hle banner, not a recommended pull

[glad ice]

u cant use p1 weapon as p2 priarm material btw

[sweet flax]

you can actually

[worn basin]

wait really??? D:

i have it maxxed and everything 💔

[sweet flax]

but that doesnt matter because flawless benediction is a divine key, it can only use itself as a pri arm material after being tuned

[worn basin]

im rly confused 😭

[sweet flax]

key of ego is useless on your account, its gonna sit there for collection purposes till the end of time

[worn basin]

aw

should i salvage it for the cubes then?

[glad ice]

u can? isnt it for preventing the synergy

[sweet flax]

I can pri arm hle bow with my key of ego

[amber finch]

only part 2 stig sets give you prisms (assuming you meant this) when you salvage them btw

[sweet flax]

its just that drive core, rocket hammer and rapid fire crossbow are new weapons that only p2 charas have

[worn basin]

noo i meant like the cubes for when i get the divine key so i can upgrade it

[amber finch]

do that for free syn ong #bugged #op

[amber finch]

ohh

[glad ice]

if u get p2 weap then use a p1 weap for priarm , will u be able to synergy that priarm with the p2 weapon u saved

[worn basin]

wait wait sorry i might hv confused some people

[amber finch]

i mean i wouldnt, they’re not that rare

[sweet flax]

you do realise the first pri arm requires the original weapon right

[worn basin]

i mean like, if i have maxxed key of ego and then get the new bow from gacha, can i use the alr maxxed one?

[sweet flax]

did you forget how pri arms work anhai xd

[worn basin]

p2 confuses me....

[sweet flax]

just ignore whatever we are saying I just realised we are talking about different things

key of ego is useless, dont pri arm it

[worn basin]

o

[sweet flax]

when you get hohe dkey (which is not recommended, but your choice) you use it to pri arm itself

[worn basin]

ohhh okay

[sweet flax]

divine keys that are tuned can only be pri-armed by its original copy

[worn basin]

dang i shouldnt hv spent the cubes

ty all !!

[glad ice]

lets take badum weapon, fortuitous red as example. if i pulled it. i will be able to craft its priarm with a p1 lvl50 pistol, no?

[sweet flax]

no, because you need to pri arm it with itself

[sweet flax]

its the same with p1 weapons, the first pri-arm requires the original weapon for the first time
but I think I mixed that up with the p2 system

[glad ice]

then what happened when i said this?

[sweet flax]

p2 weapons cant use other weapons of the same type to pri arm p1 weapons

[worn basin]

dont u unlock recipe for the pri arm then u can use any weap?

[sweet flax]

that was a mistake from me, I just corrected myself

[worn basin]

as long as its maxxed

[sweet flax]

in p1 yes

[glad ice]

[worn basin]

why they gotta make it so difficult in p2 💔

[sweet flax]

weird I remember checking hle bow earlier in the patch and it worked like p1

probs a visual bug or I remembered wrong

anyways no harm no foul

[glad ice]

i knew it. they do that so we cant exploit the synergy

[sweet flax]

its painfully simple 😭 what's difficult about it

p1 pri arming
own the original weapon, use the original weapon to pri-arm, after pri-arming a weapon for the first time, you can use any other weapon of the same class to pri arm it

p2 pri arming
own the original wepaon, use the original weapon to pri-arm, it cannot use other weapons of the same class to pri-arm

divine keys can only use themselves to priarm

and as you can see, first pri arm needs the original weapon regardless if p1 or p2

[worn basin]

[sweet flax]

after pri-arming for the first time for that weapon, you can use any weapon later on

[worn basin]

ohh ik but i meant like u dont need to forge it w/ the original first

just unlock the weap

[sweet flax]

no, regardless of p1 or p2, you need to forge the pri-arm with the original copy first

[glad ice]

lmao what the hell we gonna do with 2nd same priarm

[worn basin]

huh

ig i remembered wrong then mb 😭

[sweet flax]

original copy as in the same weapon, so to make life harvester's paths pri arm, you need life harvesters path for the first one, then you can use other scythes to make it in the future

[glad ice]

i also remember we didnt need to use the original in p1 for the 1st time. maybe they updated it

[worn basin]

i swear it was always like that

[sweet flax]

its been like this for years

[worn basin]

like in my old acc i had a lot of pri arms i forged without the originals

[sweet flax]

if that was the case that would have been around 2.x-4.x times

[worn basin]

i got them from gacha but used another weap

[sweet flax]

but tbh I cant remember all the way back then

[sweet flax]

too old to remember bad days

[worn basin]

ohhh a lot changed

[simple remnant]

then i got to change my hlee affix

[serene crystal]

Every non physical valk can't crit so check other character if they have the same issue

[simple remnant]

wait you can pri arm without needing more copies of the original arm??

[sweet flax]

for part 1

[simple remnant]

okey!!

[sweet flax]

but it was pretty pointless

[simple remnant]

oh, okey okey, i thought so, but at the end that would only help you get copies of the weapon of your character ig?

[worn basin]

i dont think copies have a purpose in p1 😭

cant synergize

[simple remnant]

really?- damn...

[glad ice]

well, i did craft 2 sleeper dream

[sweet flax]

weapon resonance for judah

but ye

dupe weapons had 0 use to not get sidetracked

[worn basin]

doesnt lili also use that?

[glad ice]

yes

[worn basin]

oo

rare to see someone who used lili

[glad ice]

31946 kallen

[sweet flax]

there were probs strats with certain weapons, but more options exist now

[glad ice]

i almost crafted 2nd cosmic duality as well

[thorny belfry]

when will carnival supply pity reset?

[sweet flax]

end of carnival

21st november

[glad ice]

check ur current carnival banner timer

[thorny belfry]

yeah but pity doesnt reset

and thats what i asked ab

[thorny belfry]

so we hve 1 more rotation

[glad ice]

oh. like asumara said, it resets when THIS carnival ends. next carnival in future patch u will start from 0 again

[sweet flax]

on the 14th yes

[thorny belfry]

tyy

[worn basin]

should i wait for vita rerun to pull for her weap then? or should i try my luck

cuz i dont hv crystals so i js pull whenever i can

[glad ice]

spending xtal on her at this point is not recommended

[worn basin]

o 😔

[glad ice]

support vita can function without her weap anw

[worn basin]

really? what can i use instead

[glad ice]

any drive core u have. or craft. or none at all

[amber finch]

her dmg doesnt really matter so you can just use whatever

[worn basin]

tytyy

[amber finch]

not me using kira guns on fws

[glad ice]

i use pri-echo

[fluid grove]

how can i SSS default astralop? doing what story? i already did the last one and got ss but where is the last "shard"?

[glad ice]

newest story for SSS

[shadow gyro]

keep base, ise wtv that you have leveled (if you do you're likely to be using it on someone else tho or level 35 foundry

[outer spruce]

do the latest chapter

[fluid grove]

no i mean i already did the newest story but that got her to SS only

[amber finch]

sss ds is just ss ds tbh

[outer spruce]

did you do chapter 4

[amber finch]

her sss skills are dogshit

[glad ice]

c4 p2

has another shard

[fluid grove]

okok thanks guys

i didnt do alot of story on this acc so im still working on alot of stuff

[glad ice]

yeah her sss doesnt worth all the waiting

[amber finch]

it was not worth the 50 or smt aop materials i had to use

[fluid grove]

honestly doing it just for it to be done

[amber finch]

i just fomo’d so hard

[worn basin]

tyyy

[fluid grove]

what do i choose from here when i get it? i already have pardo and hohe & ill get jade in a bit but idk what weap to choose

[storm lantern]

would be worth it if u werent a whale that pulled every op

[storm lantern]

save until you need one or pick purana

[fluid grove]

why purana over key? sorry if this is a stupid question

[storm lantern]

rc has more long term usefulness for ma and she's your best option for abyss if you're starting this patch and got nothing off carnival

[fluid grove]

oh okay ty

[glad ice]

key of ego is pretty much useless atp

[fluid grove]

why is that? so for hohe and jade i should just craft weaps?

[mild ruin]

hallo, i stopped playing the game around the time APHO was releasing, but lost access to my old acc and email, is there a rough estimate for how long it might take me to catch back up to around that stage on a new acc, assuming i skip story on the chapters i've already played through?

[glad ice]

hohe has a (not so) new divine key

u can skip jk. harder to build than rc

[fluid grove]

but im going to get her anyways because of the beginner event so what weapon do i put on her? should i craft one

[glad ice]

the free raid gauntlet is ok

[fluid grove]

oh ok ty

[glad ice]

p1 valks are very outdated. thats why u get them free

[fluid grove]

i see

[glad ice]

we just recommend some of them as temporary f2p choices while u building up p2 teams. the A rank is easy/cheaper to build

[last meteor]

Guys is there any way to finish quick the part 1 story?

[abstract sequoia]

you can skip most dialogues, but you need to actually play the chapters

[glad ice]

skip button. some chapters are also time gated, especially the open world

[last meteor]

There is no way to skip it?

Cause it’s really boring the game play of the start…

[abstract sequoia]

i mean you can jump chapters, you will miss the rewards though

[thorn ember]

Elly HoHe works with Elly HLE???
I wasn't able to to do two charged attacks before, but now I can
Is that because of HLE?

[abstract sequoia]

especially the crystals

which are your pulling currency

[glad ice]

gameplay at start should be short. its the dialogue that take time

[abstract sequoia]

part 1 story gives the most amount

[last meteor]

Yes that’s why I want to do it cuz it’s give crystals

I need love elf💔

[abstract sequoia]

you know the objective then

[glad ice]

yes hohe with benediction can supp hle and vice versa

while u're farming it, remember 330xtal worth 5$

[thorn ember]

so it's like owning Telema? Is HLE better at supporting Elly HoHe?

[glad ice]

yes hle better. all u need to do with hle while supporting hohe is weap + hold ult

WoD SO doesnt change when u change the support btw. its just the dps soloing SO

[thorn ember]

that's amazing!

Also is it possible to farm for next valk if I have only 4k right now?

[glad ice]

depend on how much one-time xtal u have to grind too. budget for a valk + her weap is ~40k

f2p get a bit over 20k per patch without the one-time xtal

lol i always forget about one-time xtal. u can check them in the pins

[serene crystal]

max cost is 36 K average is probably around 30 K

[thorn ember]

Aw man ):

Then I'll probably just back pull
No way I'm skipping Rita

[glad ice]

(85+60)x280 = 40k

[thorn ember]

Oh! Also, I wanted to ask about Dreamseeker's upgrade material
Is it always available or only during the first release of the chapter?

[glad ice]

always. u can get it later if u re lazy from playing it now

[thorn ember]

oh yoooo

Is there only one core in the whole story? (or whatever it's called, it looks like a core 😅)

[glad ice]

1 core in p2 chapter 4, another in the newest chapter

[eternal spindle]

wtf do i even do with all these

[glad ice]

salvage them for prism

#👶beginner-help message

someone asked about that recently

[lone tide]

i got an egg
i vaguely remember that the choice in this was important and acc dependent

[thorn ember]

oh, so it will upgrade to SSS after two cores?
Also would it be more reasonable using then 3* Kiana Elf?

[lone tide]

how many shards to unlock kiana elf?

[glad ice]

kiana elf has nicher use. lightning/fire dps will favor kiaelf than DS

unlock an elf require 150 frags. u get 2 frags per spending shop elf box

the shop has exactly 75 boxxes lol

[lone tide]

ahh okay ty

[thorn ember]

I need just 30 fragments to get her to 4* 🥀🥀

So if I have a lightning/fire dps I use Kiana, but if Ice or Phys? I have Water's Edge (no upgrades) and Blade Durundal (also no upgrades)
Would I use them or Dreamseeker?

[ancient needle]

DS

[thorn ember]

thanks

[glad ice]

WE is kinda outdated. her signature feature was gathering which is plentiful in p2. Durandal is same, but for physical

[thorn ember]

yeaah, I think I got them for free

[lone tide]

so save the egg

[topaz bay]

I was reading the story in the order recommended on hoyostans. Is the open world Sakura Samsara mode no longer available? Or is that the same as the open world in Post-Honkai Odyssey Part 1?

[sweet flax]

its still available, you have to select it from your open world chapters though

there should be a world icon beside your tasks on apho, clicking it should show you samsara, shicksal, apho 1 & 2

[serene crystal]

Also it unlocks at lvl 50

[pale wigeon]

Are the carnival banners going to loop back to Kianna and sparkle again? I got sushang in my first 10 pull and still have a ticket to spend

[sweet flax]

on the 14th yes

after that carnival leaves for this patch

[lone tide]

should i pri-arm hle's weap? what does pri-arm even do?

[pale wigeon]

And stupid question but how do I find that specific chapter? I have been stuck on this mission for too long

[glad ice]

my opinion is against keeping the egg but take it with a grain of salt. Getting valk from dorm supply is base on luck anw. opening it now will grant u a boost in dorm squad and ER (for SK/6S/GM)

[topaz bay]

Okay, thank you. I still have three levels to go to reach level 50.

[sweet flax]

pri arm increases the limit of the weapon's base atk and the passive numbers, as well as provides a new passive to the weapon
its always recommended to pri arm the weapons for the newer characters if you are using them

however worth noting unless you have broken through, the weapon wont be able to be leveled up past lvl 50

(breakthrough is at account lvl 80)

[lone tide]

in the story quests

[pale wigeon]

Ty!

[lone tide]

i thought breakthroughs were for extra damage and not rly necessary

[sweet flax]

breakthrough is meant for your account to be eligible for endgame content
after breaking through you stop playing in masters abyss(q-manifold)/ma and instead play in exalted abyss(superstring dimension)/ma

the rewards are higher as well

[lone tide]

ohh ic
im lv50, started less than a week ago so ill come back to the guide when i lvl up

[sweet flax]

no worries

[glad ice]

some players decide to camp at 80 instead because less competion. 81+ was once required to get album artbook but they dont give us those anymore

[sweet flax]

if you can retain agony3 in superstring (which literally needs 1 p2 team) its already more crystals than you would have gotten before

[lone tide]

very interesting. i look forward to it, seems fun :))

[glad ice]

i dont recommend camping or anything. in fact i depise those ppl. they camp and bully the new players

[sweet flax]

also not to misguide you, but eu is definitely the easiest region to play in, lazy/skill issued players and afk brackets before redlotus are very common in global

so if anything not breaking through is shooting yourself in the foot

can always use masters redlotus (lvl 70-80) as a reference, if you struggle to clear there in time can always consult this channel to see if it is more of a skill issue or account issue

[sweet flax]

they cant top redlotus leaderboards so they top masters leaderboards to give worth to their terrible gameplay

[lone tide]

hmm
i like being competitive in gacha endgame
def not top of the top (i dont have an infinite wallet like some xD) but i like clearing comfortably and chasing meta

[sweet flax]

nirv is achievable for a f2p

it takes time though, and a lot of dedication

[lone tide]

i got those :3

[sweet flax]

keep in mind from a crystals perspective, the difference between nirvana and redlotus is negligible

redlotus players in exalted make 500 per abyss cycle nirv players make 520

[ancient needle]

Is it though nowadays

[sweet flax]

the main income comes if you can top 100 in your server

[ancient needle]

Retaining is guaranteed Myriad

But to retain you need AOs

[sweet flax]

true but its still a while for them, they will most likely peek into nirv and demote the next weather

[ancient needle]

That's true

[lone tide]

im fine w swinging between those 2
ig ill see when i get to that point vs when ive been playing for a year or two

[storm lantern]

wait ds is better than chenxue here i think

but id have to finish story

i wonder if them releasing story before a typeless enemy was intentional lmao

[sweet flax]

for now prioritise preparing your account
make proper pulls, obtain dkeys, progress through dorm levels

since you have hle + weapon as a new player, you are already on the right track

[lone tide]

got fws kiana from free carnival pulls, hle with full gear and weapon
i was thinking of getting bp cuz i wanna give love to hohe even if its mainly for collection purposes, i got her twice from level rush + free so im hoping to someday SSS her

[sweet flax]

holy fk huge

[lone tide]

ely is beloved

[sweet flax]

are you considering dkey, its not a recommendable pull but if you are a huge ely simp you can benefit from the symbiosis tag on hohe dkey to support hle + upcomming goi units

[lone tide]

helps that i dropped the game twice before n watched my friend mess around on her acc 😅 now i got enough knowledge to not feel completely overwhelmed n drop the game in 2 days

[lone tide]

i would love to

dunno where it'll come around so i can get it tho

[sweet flax]

well it reruns after hle leaves so

[lone tide]

yipee

[sweet flax]

most frequent rerun dkey in existence ong

[lone tide]

new saving goal

[sweet flax]

upcomming banners are available in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion btw

just avoid mentioning future patch content ||such as the upcomming rita battlesuit|| without spoiler tags in other channels

[lone tide]

o yea i peeked that
doesnt seem like we know what new battlesuit is coming after hle tho and i dont want ||fdd coralie|| so i kinda lost interest
ty for telling me

oh no i stand corrected xD 1d ago

[sweet flax]

we do know which battlesuit is coming, its already been teased in cn (also shown in the cn channel pins)

just try to avoid mentioning her where its irrelevant

[lone tide]

shes prettyyy
im happy cuz i wanted to prob pull regardless
for meta purposes

[sweet flax]

and if you do, spoiler tag it if outside the cn channel

[lone tide]

gotcha

[sweet flax]

also newer players have a lot of crystal sources available, you are very likely to pull the upcomming 2 suits with a little bit of luck (especially considering cny patch in 8.7 most likely, so more pulls + very good suit usually)

there is a pin that covers crystals in this channel, do refer back to it when you need to

until then, since your plans are to pull hohe equipment, and next patch
there is no need to spend crystals on anything else this patch outside dkey

[lone tide]

i did get hle early so my luck is looking up
is ||peachy spring the banner for|| hohes divine key?

[sweet flax]

no that is the skin gacha

[lone tide]

ohh? where preview 👀

[lone tide]

ty

[sweet flax]

do keep in mind skins offer 0 value outside "it looks pretty" so unless you are determined to get it, better off not spending crystals for it

there will be an ingame test drive for it when it releases, until then you can check hohe's skin tab and preview it there

or check the youtube video they made for it

[lone tide]

i also like the upcoming valk from what ive seen on her on pt1 story lucky me lucky me

[lone tide]

will do tyty
if it was a 20$ skin like other games i would likely get it. im a sucker for pretty things
but since gacha it's doubtful

[sweet flax]

well its gacha but its a very straightforward one

skin gachas work in a pyramid format, you are less likely to get the reward at the top (the skin in this case) until the last pull
this in total costs 9.6k crystals for the skin (just under half of a player's patchly income roughly)

in hohe's case since its discounted it will cost 7.7k instead (still a rather large sum of crystals)

for reference, a valk's weapon costs 16.8k at hard pity, which you are likely to hit pulling for a weapon
half of that is going on a skin that does not even provide +1dmg

so from a competitive standard, we always recommend to stay away from them

but its your decision as a player whether you want it or not, just make sure its an informed decision

[last meteor]

Should u do the story like from the end to the start so i wont get bored cuz i really need those crystals

[lone tide]

wait is it the cherry blossoms skin

[sweet flax]

yes

[lone tide]

oh im doomed
byebye money

🥹 im obsessed w it

[sweet flax]

this is your choice really, the important thing id say is completing part 2 chapter 1 until you unlock vbm + her weapon

[last meteor]

?

[fluid grove]

how old is lunar vow? as in, when was her first ever banner? does anyone know

[glad ice]

whad de hel is cherry blossom lol

[sweet flax]

part 1 is shorter and offers more crystals than p2, so you could preferably do that first

[sweet flax]

the pink flowers

[last meteor]

Who is this?

I think I did all part 2 some of it

[sweet flax]

there is a glossary in pin, vbm is valkyrie blast metal (a rank coralie)

[last meteor]

Ohhhh I have har

[glad ice]

im pretty sure its peach fairy hohe

[last meteor]

But why it’s important?

[sweet flax]

peachy spring hohe
but I meant that they arent wrong saying its the cherry blossom skin since its full of pink flowers (cherry blossoms which bloom in the spring)

[lone tide]

talking about this outfit

[plucky birch]

@abstract sequoia

Ok

[sweet flax]

because she sees use to this day for a less established account and a filler position where needed

[abstract sequoia]

!faq info

[small willow]

Providing Account Information/Context

We need more information to answer that, Captain!

Please show (screenshot where needed):

• Your Battlesuits (Valkyrie > Grid Layout) and Equipment (Equip > Weapon/Stigmata).
• Crystal count, supply tickets, current pity, and expected income.
• To what extent do you care about [meta](#👶beginner-help message)? (Consider that your competitive Abyss performance affects your Crystal income. [More info here!](#👶beginner-help message))

If you are struggling on specific content:

• Show us your team, equipment and gameplay.
• Screenshot the exact problem if you think something is going wrong.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[abstract sequoia]

there

[sweet flax]

oh hi ram

[plucky birch]

how do i put my info there

[abstract sequoia]

hey asu

[sweet flax]

take a screenshot

[last meteor]

Ohhhh

[abstract sequoia]

screenshotting the things in your account and sending them as an image through discord

you can do that on your pc too btw, no need to use your phone

[sweet flax]

do try to take at most 5 screenshots or ai chan flags it as spam

[abstract sequoia]

no take as many as you need

[sweet flax]

they removed the limit?

thank god about time

[abstract sequoia]

there was a limit?

[sweet flax]

ye lol

[plucky birch]

Thats basically pretty much everything

oh btw i have like 48pity on the wp banner for the elysia bow thingy

i think

[abstract sequoia]

yeah okay that's a restart if you no longer have the starter manual

[plucky birch]

why..?

i have a returnee thingy

[glad ice]

to take it shortly, returnee give 1k while starter manual can give u 10k in comparison

[abstract sequoia]

returnee events don't give nearly as much, actually almost nothing compared to what starter events give

[sweet flax]

you lose a lot of crystals, nothing can compare to the amount of crystals you get as a beginner from your manual
you also lose a lot of exp sources from your manual which makes progress slower
you already used source prisms on vbm's stigmatas so you are very likely to be at a defecit
48 pulls for a newer player with no manual will exhaust a majority of your one time crystal sources

[plucky birch]

10k wouldnt get me to pity tho..

i think i got sirin from starting

thats probs where the 10k went

[sweet flax]

you cant get sirin outside wt...

[plucky birch]

oh

[abstract sequoia]

what 10k

[glad ice]

1 /10 is just comparison

[abstract sequoia]

i think you're confusing sirin with HoV

[sweet flax]

wait, did you mean 10k on dorm banner

[abstract sequoia]

oh...

[plucky birch]

idfk

[glad ice]

i meant 10 times worth in value

[plucky birch]

idk how this game works

[sweet flax]

xd then focus with ram, let them guide you

[plucky birch]

can you explain in genshin terms pls

[abstract sequoia]

okay yknow how there is a standard banner in genshin?

[plucky birch]

yes

[abstract sequoia]

where every old character goes

you never want to spend pulling currency on that banner

[plucky birch]

wait hi3 has herrschers on their standard tho like kianas finality right?

[lone tide]

genshin could never LMFAO

[abstract sequoia]

ahem

[glad ice]

wait. gi standard didnt have old char when i quitted

[abstract sequoia]

for honkai it's the same

[lone tide]

jus sayin

[sweet flax]

herrschers are a title for the valk, story dependant
does not reflect their gameplay

[plucky birch]

oh so herrschers arent meta?

[sweet flax]

so herrschers are not like "archons" that you would see in genshin

[outer spruce]

no

[abstract sequoia]

this saying brings nothing to this conversation

[plucky birch]

damn

[sweet flax]

depends who, for example herrschers of finalty, humanity and rebirth are meta with their dkey, however these dkeys are not worth pulling as paper value

[plucky birch]

so should i make a new hi3 acc

[lone tide]

this game is like a decade old
these characters are outdated
the best practice is pulling newer releases

[plucky birch]

or...

[lone tide]

😅 sorry sorry lol

[abstract sequoia]

you probably should

[glad ice]

u can reach 44 in 2 days now

[abstract sequoia]

for many reasons

[plucky birch]

but i like my elysias..

[abstract sequoia]

you can get your elysias back

[sweet flax]

that's slacc

[abstract sequoia]

very quickly

[sweet flax]

[plucky birch]

[plucky birch]

REALLY???

[glad ice]

well i gave room for slacking didnt i

[abstract sequoia]

HLE is still on the banner for almost a full month

[sweet flax]

hi3 players have to play hi3 24/7 smh (just kidding)

[lone tide]

you get HoHe elysia for free by starting, and HLE elysia is running right now, and you can get miss pink elf... in a shop, probably, idk

[abstract sequoia]

you have plenty of time

[plucky birch]

yay

[sweet flax]

malding starts at lvl 1

[glad ice]

yeah this patch giving a free hohe

[plucky birch]

ok so im gonna make a new acc now

[abstract sequoia]

lets not confuse things

[plucky birch]

do u want me to like vc or smth

to show u what i do

[lone tide]

i just started and im doing the same

[abstract sequoia]

HoHe in starter manual is bought through level rush

[glad ice]

vc?

[abstract sequoia]

voice chat

duh

[lone tide]

there's a free picker in the event tab

[glad ice]

duh

[plucky birch]

oh i remember in the shop they give herrscher of seele for 15£ i was wondering if i should buy her

[abstract sequoia]

yes but this isn't a starter only thing

[lone tide]

and then u can get a second hohe thru paid level rush

[glad ice]

thats paying

[abstract sequoia]

don't be too hasty with that advice please, there are other things to consider

[lone tide]

oh sorry I didn't mean it to sound like it was

[abstract sequoia]

!faq ches

[small willow]

Not Giving Advice is better than Wrong Advice!

Hi Captain! Sorry to cut you off...

Ai-chan recommends that you leave the advising to more experienced captains, but we appreciate your enthusiasm.

If you aren't sure if the advice you want to give is correct, please wait for others in the channel to answer instead. You wouldn't want to be responsible for someone making a huge mistake!

[abstract sequoia]

not meaning it in a rude way

[glad ice]

lol what. u guy really use ches to link this one

[plucky birch]

ok so im on a new acc and im on the kiana thingy do i just story progress

[abstract sequoia]

it's one of the aliases

[ancient needle]

Yes

[abstract sequoia]

wrongadvice also works

[lone tide]

no i understand
i just wanted to reassure them that i, as a new player, was also able to collect 2 elys
i wont overstep

[abstract sequoia]

thats fine

read the pin for the hotr vs hohe choice again

[plucky birch]

tech otakus save the world!!!

[abstract sequoia]

there are reasons to potentially pick hotr if they go for level rush

[glad ice]

so does the beginner manual give a hohe now?

[abstract sequoia]

no

i mean

not for free

level rush does give her

[plucky birch]

wait whos meta in this game rn

[abstract sequoia]

but you don't buy that bundle for the valk, you buy it for the insane crystal amount

[glad ice]

how many xtal

[abstract sequoia]

!faq whaling

[small willow]

Cost-effective Spending

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the cost-effective whaling guide!

Short answer:

1. Level Rush and very high value B-Chip Bundles.
2. Monthly Card.
3. Level bundles (will expire if left too long).
4. Knight BP.
5. Crystal top-up with 2x bonus.
6. B-Chip packs (find highest Crystal:B-Chip ratio)
7. Paladin BP.
8. Crystal top-up without 2x bonus.

[abstract sequoia]

for 880 B-Chips = 5400 Crystal

[plucky birch]

can i use lootbar for hi3 purchases

[abstract sequoia]

the meta is oriented towards astral ring valkyries, you usually want to start with pulling the newest valk

backpulling is not recommended

!faq backpull

[small willow]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[glad ice]

ah so its still paying then

[abstract sequoia]

as far as i know no

[last meteor]

How much the story of part 1 will give me?

Crystals

[lone tide]

nop it doesnt have it i checked a while ago

[abstract sequoia]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[abstract sequoia]

19000+

it's a massive amount to say the least

[last meteor]

Dang.

[glad ice]

50 chapters btw

[last meteor]

Ok I am doing it staying all night

[plucky birch]

btw i havent done the elysiam realm but ive heard its very depressing is it rlly that sad

[abstract sequoia]

you probably wont be done next morning

it's a lot of content

literally almost a decade worth of content

[last meteor]

Even if I skip?

[abstract sequoia]

well okay

that's debatable

[glad ice]

some chapters are time gated, especially the open world ones

[abstract sequoia]

knowing the context for elysian realm is also important in my opinion

[glad ice]

some need daily farm

[plucky birch]

guys i got to this part

[abstract sequoia]

okay that's very far in the beginning

[glad ice]

crimson impulse dash atk is fun i'll let u know

[dusk lodge]

hello, brand new player here, that ticket i got for a free 10 pull, does it guarantee the 5 star or no?

[glad ice]

guarantee 4star

[lone tide]

nop
unless u get really lucky

[dusk lodge]

cool then i can freak out now

[plucky birch]

oh that happened to me

[frozen crypt]

what is a 5star?

[dusk lodge]

im def not a star rail player noooo

[lone tide]

holy moly gee wiz
u are blessed
now go grind for her weapon u got this!!

[dusk lodge]

SIR YES SIR

[lone tide]

says the racoon man pfp...

[dusk lodge]

nawwww

[glad ice]

yeah i never got one valk from 1st 10-pull ever. 6 years

[lone tide]

unlucky account
should reroll/j

[frozen crypt]

I got HoR in my first ever 10x

[plucky birch]

should i pull on the carnival banners if i get elysia early

[glad ice]

too late.

[plucky birch]

🥺🥺

[storm lantern]

not beyond the free 20

[lone tide]

i decided to reroll to start my acc cuz i wanted both fws kiana and hle
i got fws kiana second free 10 pull no need to reroll, what a relief

[plucky birch]

i got my free b rank bronya guys

wheres ram

[glad ice]

lol i dare u not get her

[lone tide]

no... 🥹 check back on backpulling faq

[dusk lodge]

well now i HAVE to commit to hi3

[plucky birch]

oh yh

[lone tide]

is there use cases for them yes
but if ure f2p definitely save up for new releases

[dusk lodge]

game gives me elysia out the gate, time to get dedicated

(i also hear the story is quite incredible)

[lone tide]

u can check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion to know whos coming after ely and see if u want her
remember to spoiler if ure gonna discuss stuff from that channel outside of it

so like this: next banner after ely is ||very pretty woman, W||

[thorn ember]

Should I get twins of eden weapon or one of the reset things?

[sweet flax]

do you already have soeae? twins of eden is available in the bp reserve

[lone tide]

im here for the chrysos heirs counterpart. cuz i like crying. yeah. we love pain. this story will be so romantic u're so right my ely 🥹

[thorn ember]

not sure what soeae is but I have every other key except for twins of eden, so it's either that or those reset (???) things

I have it already

[sweet flax]

star of eden anti entropy
personally id hold onto the box until you have a use for them then

[glad ice]

yeah twin of eden definitely

[plucky birch]

gues when does this long tutorial end

im on 1-8

[sweet flax]

by the end of chapter 1

[thorn ember]

for who exactly?

[glad ice]

1-13?

no one. u get it for divine key buff

[plucky birch]

GUYS

I GOT THE STARTER MANUAL

[sweet flax]

yes that does happen when you make a new account

[plucky birch]

i got double helia

💀😭

[glad ice]

are u pulling new ely

[plucky birch]

I think so

[thorn ember]

Oh also what are those reset thingies?

[abstract sequoia]

im here

[plucky birch]

do i pull for songque or senadina instead

Or go for ely

[abstract sequoia]

you go for ely

[plucky birch]

K

[abstract sequoia]

!faq starter

[small willow]

Starter Supply

Don't waste crystals, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of why Starter Supply is not recommended [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Short answer:

• Brand new Valkyries to be prioritised over old ones (see [!faq backpull](#👶beginner-help message)).
• The discounted 10x does not make it good. Only do the 1 single pull that gets refunded anyway.
• In most cases, you will not have the infrastructure to make a good team with either of these Valkyries.
• Your crystals are better spent on new Valkyries: the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.
• This banner is only recommended for people willing to reroll accounts until they get a Valkyrie in the first 10x. Ask us what to do if you are interested in rerolling, it is very dependant on the patch contents.

[dusk lodge]

exactly why im here, im really like with cyrene and now the game just gives me her, shit was meant to be ig

[glad ice]

no im just making sure u dont waste it on sena and songque

[thorn ember]

Elly, since newest valkyrie is the strongest

[eternal spindle]

is apho2 worth to do? i dont see any xtals anywhere

[plucky birch]

do i use carnival supply ticket on sushang

or other lady

[glad ice]

apho2 story missions do give xtal when completed

[thorn ember]

I don't remember story wise, but you get crystals for lvling up characters, missions and I think achievements

[abstract sequoia]

see the carnival pin

[plucky birch]

where dat

[abstract sequoia]

this thing

[glad ice]

and the apho2 gacha also has xtal drop. u need to do weekly apho dungeon for its gacha tokens

[abstract sequoia]

on mobile, you tap the channel name

and go to "pins"

[plucky birch]

HOLY

SHOOT

[abstract sequoia]

did you find it?

[abstract sequoia]

ah, congrats

[eternal spindle]

abyss exploration 2?

[plucky birch]

IM SCREAMING

IS SHE GOODDDDD

[abstract sequoia]

well don't get too excited

[glad ice]

check the book for the quest named like that

[abstract sequoia]

you can use her as a support at best, because you don't have her weapon

but please do not pull her weapon. you wanted elysia first right?

[plucky birch]

yeah

[eternal spindle]

oh i have to just wait 2 days to get promoted to agony

this is pain

[abstract sequoia]

then please go and pull her with her weapon first

[glad ice]

yeah... its online game for u. time gate

[abstract sequoia]

a rule you need to consider here unlike genshin: weapons are 100% mandatory for valks to be good

especially as a dps

[glad ice]

that stigmata isn't particularly good or anything. u can focus on other things

[eternal spindle]

budget rc stigs 😔
also should i get rc weapon from the crate? or do i get old hohe weapon

[plucky birch]

oh

[abstract sequoia]

but there is a good catch

no 50/50 and you get enough pulls for at least one valk and weapon every patch

[glad ice]

rc chakram is considered better choice than key of ego or jk fist

[abstract sequoia]

if you really want, you can pull sushang's weapon after pulling ely and her weapon btw

[plucky birch]

is herrscher of void good i get her tmr

[abstract sequoia]

not really

HoV is very old and her gameplay really shows this

she fits more into the early part 1 valkyries and chapters

[plucky birch]

when do i unlock actual events

[glad ice]

what is ur current captain lvl?

[plucky birch]

17

[abstract sequoia]

(i can't check right now i'm playing story)

[plucky birch]

ok

[abstract sequoia]

but the news tab in the main menu might show you

if you have that

for anything else, here #👶beginner-help message

every early unlock in order

[glad ice]

oh wait

u will want to use an invite code

before lvling up further

[abstract sequoia]

yeah usually we have a channel for this #invite-links-here but you can also use mine if you want
208538040QR

feel free to do as you please

you enter it under Bonuses > Share Invitation

but it's only possible to do so before you reach level 26

[plucky birch]

Ok

i got 60 crystals

thats not much

[abstract sequoia]

also most events unlock at level 30

[glad ice]

still xtal

[abstract sequoia]

to answer your question from earlier

[plucky birch]

is there any codes to redeem

[abstract sequoia]

you have to do some tasks to get some more rewards

from this process

the tasks are on the same screen

[abstract sequoia]

yes check #glb-exchange-codes

[glad ice]

180 more if u gain 10k BP exp iirc

[eternal spindle]

where do i get shifu btw (and what is the lvl req for it)

[plucky birch]

how many of these work

[abstract sequoia]

any non-hyperion lounge codes are worth a try

wait one sec

ThanksCaptain
US4RN92X15
LOVEELF
AichanXElysia
6PGPIN58IL, KEXMVQQZLU

these will definitely work

[plucky birch]

ty

@abstract sequoia

what to pick?

[glad ice]

aren't u ely simp

[plucky birch]

Yes

[glad ice]

why u still ask

[eternal spindle]

they are both fine (irrelevant) to pick for new players apparently

[glad ice]

discussion essay about hohe/hotr also in pin if u like reading

[plucky birch]

Do i buy valks from the asterite fragment shop

[eternal spindle]

how to get a sensei? i dont see that option anywhere

[glad ice]

u in sea?

https://discord.com/channels/418652140454674432/790407708813033482

or u can go directly as my cadet

[eternal spindle]

uh sure why not

what do i do?

[glad ice]

give me ur id