👶beginner-help

[lone tide]

viva le YouTube for that 🙏

guys what happens if i leave

[spiral badge]

the main personal consequence is you may have to wait a cooldown before being able to join another one

i don't think there's anything else unless you just don't join another one and miss weekly 25 crystals

[lone tide]

whats the cooldown
this one wont give me 25 crystals either 🥲

[spiral badge]

12-24hrs? i don't actually know

maybe guide at the bottom right tells you?

[lone tide]

aight tysm

goodnight chat
tomorrow cyrene comes out in hi3*. and then I'll be the ultimate elysia owner across universes
wish me luck lol

*hsr i am way too tired lol

[spiral badge]

seems like 12

you mean hsr? lol but yeah gl

[lapis lichen]

hiya, I have enough materials to make HLE's pri arm weapon, should i make it now or wait?

[serene crystal]

Depends a bit on how the rest of your team is looking and what you are trying to do but you should pri arm it at some point

[glad ice]

u should pri-arm as soon as possible

hle will be the favored valk in this and the next patch

torus is gacha drop now so it shouldnt be too scarce

[lapis lichen]

ah ok ill pri arm it then, i only have RC and VBm for my HLE as im a beginner

i was also wonderng if i should pick battlesuit supply cards or equipment supply cards from the box

[glad ice]

yeah a pity we only get the rewards instead of a box. if u're not sure what u aiming for (valk or gear) u can pick half this half that

[lapis lichen]

ah ok, i guess ill pick battlesuit cards for this one

[low ridge]

Do I pick battle suit or weapon

[glad ice]

i said half this half that bcs u will have 3 boxxes, 15 cards total

and u dont have to choose right now. u have time until the day that event ends (just dont forget completely)

valk cards and equip cards are equal value (1400 xtal). if u want xtal for other things (like outfit gacha) u will have to take the loss

[hallow lynx]

HOW DO I GET OFF THIS SCREEN AND GET WHOEVER THIS IS OFF

[glad ice]

part2 bridge always show the valk leading ur current campaign/story team

[hallow lynx]

yes but i never seen thos before

[glad ice]

u comeback?

[hallow lynx]

no

[glad ice]

and i dont really understand what u meant by 'get off this screen'

[hallow lynx]

the background is diffrent

[glad ice]

u wanna change bridge or ?

[quick birch]

click on your name -> change bridge in the bottom left corner and change to p1 bridge

[hallow lynx]

OMG THANK U IT LOOKS MUUTCH BETTER

[glad ice]

i actually like p2 hyperion bridge

[hallow lynx]

also

when i do story i cant one of my characters?

[amber finch]

you’re forced to use trial valks for awhile yes

[hallow lynx]

yeah but i can add 2 people

it wont let me add thsi girl

[amber finch]

you cant use part 2 valks in part 1 story

[outer spruce]

can't use p2 characters in p1 story

[glad ice]

u cant use p2 valk in p1 story and vice versa

[hallow lynx]

oh dang

😭

[amber finch]

yeah you’re still locked to hov dps nexxo

[keen pilot]

:(

[glad ice]

lol did he ask about it before

[keen pilot]

hmm?

[keen pilot]

yes i did last week

i hate hov

[amber finch]

newbie struggles

[glad ice]

yeah... pull the new valk

[amber finch]

kinda sux bc of 9-10 weeks patches now too if you wanna collect good valks

[keen pilot]

hle is on first boss

one shot it

[amber finch]

already did + used her on first boss

[keen pilot]

im leveling up a bit too fast aswell so shits much harder cuz other people level up much slower and have more stuff and CAMPERS

[amber finch]

yeah you’ll be encountering alot of campers

[glad ice]

joyo doesnt want u to camp

[keen pilot]

im almost done with them im lvl 69 lvl 80 soon

[glad ice]

they want u to spend to get ur teams

[keen pilot]

i dont have to

i have enough to get another valk full pity and get her weapon

also @amber finch dont u think its worth it to pull on fdd until i reach thelema on spendingevent

[glad ice]

how about SI SnS TA legendary team

[amber finch]

i mean the event is just a bonus for spending, it’s a want not a need

[keen pilot]

i was thinking about it but like no weapons and stigs will that work?

[keen pilot]

i mean i get a free valk tho cuz like my options right now are so mid

like am i really supposed to get elfs in p2

[amber finch]

if you cant handle the copeness of a newbie then yeah, fdd would be a less detrimental pull to your account compared to the carnival valks

[keen pilot]

[amber finch]

the aops? nah ds is enough

[amber finch]

you’ll soon realize how shit thel is without her weap

[keen pilot]

ok so what else can i even get in the event

[amber finch]

she’s mega dependent on it compared to other p2 valks

[whole cradle]

as a new player what do i pick?

[keen pilot]

i am not gonna be using her just having her

[amber finch]

the elf box

[wet root]

is it ok just to take elf part but not all 75 from spending? im going to get at least 30k spending for the outfit

[keen pilot]

pins

[amber finch]

check pins

[glad ice]

elf box is the only thing good in the spending shop

[keen pilot]

😔 😔 😔 😔

[amber finch]

yeah i mean you cant really afford anything else good aside elf box in there (aside from some stamps but eh)

[keen pilot]

i really want fdd but ill not rush

[keen pilot]

just so i get thelema card

not cuz i want her

lets see i wsnt to see the future valk in 8.6 which hopefully should be out when fdd is on

[amber finch]

yeah we should have quite abit of info on her when fdd is rerunning

[keen pilot]

umazing

[fluid grove]

idk how i even got this but what should i choose?

i dont have any fragments for any valks there so yea if i would choose fragments they would be the only ones i have

[serene crystal]

You should unlock the valks by buying them fully from war treasury so getting AW/AL is generally a better idea. AL takes longer to farm so I would generally recommend going for it.

[fluid grove]

thanks! :3 i was thinking about it aswell but just wanted to make sure

[sour valve]

what should I get with this?

[spiral badge]

for future reference you can run some quick math to gauge the value of some of the stuff here

https://i.imgur.com/jqTEkMQ.png

the box gives 20 PE frags. Each PE frag normally costs 5 AL

5x20 = 100 which matches with the AL option from the box directly

meanwhile 8 x 12 = 96 for SpA which is lower value. So don't get the SpA frags. the only merit is to rush SpA's progress which has no meta purpose now.

[spark fern]

im not sure if this question has been asked before but would it be better to go for ss sena or s2 thelema from the spending event?

[spiral badge]

have you read the spending event pin yet?

[spark fern]

i didnt know there was a pin actually thank you

[spiral badge]

if you still have questions, feel free to ask

[fluid grove]

oo okay :D thanks sai!! im really thinking of getting horb weapon and stigs..hold me back..i think i saw someone saying shes gonna be farmable(?) basically able to get more easier in a few versions and i really like her ;-; how much of a bad idea would it be to get her weap? and the fact that u can run her with hle makes me wanna get her even more

i got elys bow on old acc too and pretty much moved to new acc now...and have like 10k crystals

[spark fern]

oh it seems ss sena is not great, i thought it was

[fluid grove]

also ive seen on the cn channel that the next banner is gonna be the blonde girl but i dont really plan on pulling for her, i hate how she looks. reign solaris or something

[spiral badge]

i can't guarantee anything in the future if it's not already confirmed in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins btw. Generally speaking we do expect valks to become more available in the future as time goes on.

However beware HoHE and HoFi who were previous stellar key candidates still aren't WT farmable yet. Instead they became accessible via Reserve Work shop for now (and a few other sources for stamps iirc)

If you absolutely cannot wait the first thing I would suggest is to see if you can curb your urges with her tutorial. Otherwise if you have the crystals to guarantee, and don't mind potentially missing next patch's valk, i guess you can consider it.

if you can wait, then i would suggest waiting until some way to get her becomes known, then wait for a horb dkey rerun.

If you're willing to pay then horb is available from the celebration box but this isn't a really nice price to pay tbh.

[spiral badge]

that's a rerun

new releases are at the start of patches

[fluid grove]

oh so its gonna be two banners

[spiral badge]

well the FDD banner will run along side the current elysia one, but then RS will run on its own after all that

anyway going back to your horb question, meta f2p wise i don't recommend investing in her at all. But since you like her, you'll have to decide for yourself how you want to balance between personal preference and meta

[fluid grove]

yeah ive thought about buying celeb box but i worry that if i do buy it and then she becomes farmable then its jsut wasted money on my part

[spiral badge]

yeah. If you want to bank on her joining reserve works maybe consider knight bp instead, but i cannot guarantee how long this wait will be or if it will ever come to fruition

i do expect her to become more available in the future at least but that's all i can say

hence why wait until a dkey rerun where by then hopefully she's more available and affordable

[fluid grove]

hmm :/ and how do weapon reruns work? how much time is in between reruns typically? like if her scythe is on the banner now do you think it will rerun again in like, 6 months or two years? xd

[spiral badge]

yeah ss sena to me is mainly extra evade skill charge and slight personal damage from raw atk stats

it does have its uses but it's nothing too major

if you're competing at very high abyss then sure it can still matter but sena scenarios are also pretty rare now with how old she is (granted the current abyss is sena viable, but so are many other SD dps options like hle and fws)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-JliIKCj0

although it's kinda ironic when she wants both HLE and FWS to do so (and self SS rank at that)

https://i.imgur.com/lUMWDBQ.png

but i digress

[spiral badge]

sorry i missed this for a moment. There's no true schedule when it comes to reruns. Generally for new valk releases it's usually close like 1-2 patches later (we are seeing fdd rerun this patch after her release)

but i know that's not your question. I actually don't know how it goes for stellar keys. Best i can offer is to look on arustats and try to see if you can observe any trends from hofi/hohe, but even this is no guarantee

https://www.arustats.com/en-us/hi3/timeline/7.9

[spark fern]

i actually don’t have the bis supports for hle so sena dps scored better for me in this abyss heh

[spiral badge]

yeah whatever that works

and even then you need to assess by your bracket too

no need to improve sena if you're already fine

and conservatively speaking you can hold off for now until maybe the last week when spending event shop will go away (although please make sure to remember. I've seen people forget very unfortunately before)

maybe you can hold off and an actual significant use case will come up in some way until that time. Otherwise maybe we will get more future patch info by then too that may affect your choice

[spark fern]

yeah that’s true

[weary halo]

How do I get crystals fast…? (I’m a returnee lvl 57 and doesn’t know much)

[odd plume]

hard for returnee to get crystal fast, check the pin for once time crystal sources

fastest way should be ER and story

if you have nothing special on that account, remake a new account would be faster

[simple remnant]

im keeping that web, also, its kinda sad that cn gets events that we dont

[slate comet]

Is rasputin better for hohe if I don’t have flawless benediction? The only source for her stigs is in the bp shop

Or should I just craft solon

[serene crystal]

Solon should only be crafted if you have Flawless benediction else you can use a copium ice set, Rasputin should be better in this case then Solon.

[zenith vale]

are all the outfits that can be bought in store, permanent? like no rush to get them?

[amber finch]

yes

[zenith vale]

okie great! thank youu

is it ever advisable to spend b chips onto pulls? cause i see alot of these bundles and pull tickets that i can spend b chips on

[haughty elbow]

some packs are good

the ones with over 50%

[zenith vale]

okayy. and is the new captain section like permanent as well? 600 b chips for 168 outfit tickets looks especially good

[haughty elbow]

no

[zenith vale]

oh it goes away?

[amber finch]

its just not worth it if you want to actually make use of the bchips

[zenith vale]

wait so no its not worth it but its permanent? im just wondering cause i do wanna pick up some outfits but if its not gonna go away ill do it next time rather than now cause idk how stuff works yet

i started like a week ago

[haughty elbow]

yes

it takes a while to go away but it does

[vivid salmon]

hi, can anyone help me pls? i have 775 carnival annulon. what should i do? i have thelema S, sena S and bunny & kiana elf 2

[eager niche]

is Theresa astralop worth pulling even if I don't have badum

[haughty elbow]

not worth even if u did

[haughty elbow]

check pin

[vivid salmon]

thanks!

[void mural]

Why Helia instead of Coraline?

[haughty elbow]

because coralie cant use those 2 as supports

[void mural]

Nah. This s Hi Love elf dps team

[amber finch]

coralie as a dps wants to have ROO valkyries

[amber finch]

why is helia lead then

use fdd instead of paws if its hle dps yeah

[haughty elbow]

oh wait helia isnt lead

[amber finch]

oh wait im blind

[haughty elbow]

why did u put her in front

use coralie

[amber finch]

wait you can put stuffs like that in front? huh never knew

hle wants fdd yeah

[ancient needle]

They aren't using Quick Team Edit

[amber finch]

oh thats why

[void mural]

Memoria. Saw most using this and I got curious why

[amber finch]

i dont think i have ever turnt quick select off lmao

[oak estuary]

No fdd probs

[amber finch]

i think they just used what was available to them dont know of any strats that uses paws over fdd

usually its horb if its a high rank hle team

[ancient needle]

Or FDD is on another boss

[gusty fractal]

whats the current character u can get after buying level rush? planning on making an acc i can invest money into but theres no point in buying level rush if i can just get hohe for free rn

[ancient needle]

HoHE

[amber finch]

hohe is on level rush

[gusty fractal]

bro

[amber finch]

you can just buy level rush get hohe then get hotr from the login event

[ancient needle]

The value of the Level Rush is not in the valk btw

[gusty fractal]

this game gmfu

[void mural]

I see. Thanks

[ancient needle]

It's in the crystals

[gusty fractal]

or yea i can do that

[gusty fractal]

^^^ ik that but i was thinking it would be something different

[gusty fractal]

holy whale

[amber finch]

thats just a normal team wdym

[naive adder]

haii guys! is honkai impact 3rd or 3 the sea server one?

[amber finch]

3 is sea

[naive adder]

tysm!!

[barren skiff]

What’s the best team for love elf in Elisian realm?

[weary halo]

Guys… are my builds good? (Returnee and starter)

I might aswell restart my acc shouldn’t i…

[ancient needle]

Check the ER guide in the pins

You wanna do the Damage one

[haughty elbow]

this gear is trash 🥀

[shadow gyro]

can you show more please? aka all of your part 2 characters, recent part 1 characters as well as 4*+ stigmata and weapons in inventory? that would be a better way to see what you have

[haughty elbow]

lvl 55
most likely doesnt have anything else

and everyone but sena is obtainable rn

[shadow gyro]

but also, you really need to give a character full gear for them to function properly, your part 2 units really need it
also hoh's stigmata is doing nothing without her divine key

[weary halo]

Sure!! Dm me

[shadow gyro]

probably, but i do still want to see what they have to give them more advice

[ancient needle]

You can just send the images here

[shadow gyro]

would prefer sending it here since others can help too

[weary halo]

Ooo

What should I send again?

[shadow gyro]

this

edit the pictures together if you have a lot or use imgur, so you don't spam

[ancient needle]

The cap for images is massive, like 10+

No need in extra steps

[weary halo]

I want kiana

[ancient needle]

That ain't happening from Dorm Supply, look at the amount of valks there (press on the banner)

You can get her from Reserve BP if you really want to, but it's not recommended atp

[weary halo]

Oki imma see

[ancient needle]

And you'll need to pay up for that (or endure 5 patches ig )

[weary halo]

Cries

Ok what abt the chars i have now

[shadow gyro]

i see then, like awawa said making a new account would be better for long term
you do have 4 notable characters (sena, new elysia, hoh, thelema) but not having their full gear tanks their performance, especially hoh with part 2 teams
there's no notable weapons or stigmatas in your inventory either as the p2 stigs are craftable

i would suggest a new account, even for hofi that you want, you'll get dorm tickets and lower pity needed to get 2(?) s ranks from there
although there's too much stuff in dorm so i won't sweat it if you don't get what you want (just don't use crytals in there okay?)

hell, you can try rerolling for new elysia if you want, that will give you a good start but that's up to you

admittedly, hofi is also in reserve works (a permanent shop in bp) if you insist on getting her, but she's permanently in there and there's better things to get from there so maybe if you're willing to wait you can just get her later or wait for her to be free, she was free once

[weary halo]

Sooo what should I do..

[shadow gyro]

i suggest a new account for better investment, you'll level up quickly too

[weary halo]

Ima cry

What would I do on the acc then?

[shadow gyro]

well its not like you can delete your old account if you wanted to (unless you delete its hoyoverse account)
so just leave the other account or use it for something else if you want

your new account can be to get good units and build good teams to help you out
which the other could be for whatever you want

[weary halo]

Can u check ur dms for a sec?

[eternal spindle]

which one of these do i get? i did take hohe from the free event thingie

[odd plume]

that weapon wont really get your HoH anywhere, she need her new weapon to be able to do something
and you should pull HLE, even less reason to focus on HoH
if you pull HLE, RC will be a decent cope support, and purana is RC weapon

not like purana will help much, but it's the main consider, can just save the box till you know what you really want

nothing really good here, purana is just somewhat usable before you get a proper team

[eternal spindle]

i do just need something for hohe tho, unless it's better to just use craftable?

[shadow gyro]

level 35 craftable or default

[odd plume]

not better in term of dmg, but craftable wp at lv35 is better for economy

[eternal spindle]

default as in this thing?

[odd plume]

both wont get you anywhere anyway

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[odd plume]

several cheap build for hoh

[eternal spindle]

of the 2, is sus better than aide?

[odd plume]

tho it's not really much worse to get the bow

if you really want

[shadow gyro]

by sus you mean JK and aide is TA? ta is more flexible for beginner stuff but JK is better for p1 ice support

[odd plume]

not very sure, but cope JK will have some issue for longer fight, TA is more consistent but less buff

[wraith brook]

Hi

Can i ask about rota for FWS?
*i wonder what rota is in video

In this video https://youtu.be/ncL9gI5wtIk?si=mZOLON-HTY_gaVHj
Im try to wrote it but mb i miss something
FDD opening ->QTE JDS CA -> QTE WFS attack fast WA press WA -> QTE JDS ULT CA -> QTE FWS attack fast WA ULT press WA

sry i wrote too much

[blazing fjord]

Hi.how come i cannot use trial characte elf at stage 5 ?

[slim blaze]

What seems to be the problem with the rot u typed?

[wraith brook]

just want sure that i right do it
bc i probably cant see all button press or dont understadn

[slim blaze]

Looks right

You forgot jds qte at the end

[shell basin]

You can’t use part 2 characters in part 1 story if that’s what you mean

[slim blaze]

No jds qte at thr end = missing ari

[wraith brook]

Ok thanks.
Just its too much to rember all in 1 try
and use pause can loose dmg, well i guess

[wraith brook]

Oh yes thanks, just YT not best place to write rota.
p2 looks easier to rember

[slim blaze]

You can simplify it further.

Fdd opener > non ult rots > rots with ult > jds qte

[wraith brook]

i just want sure i right place button in rota
like not press WA first but do attack and only then do Fast Wa and what we need next.
But thanks

[slim blaze]

And then p2 is just SO rot

[wraith brook]

only starts with JDS not fws
and need right time?
half cicrle attack

[slim blaze]

I mean when u activate SO u switch to jds anyways

Because u want to trigger crystal form

[wraith brook]

oh ok thanks

oh

im still bad

oh im in trouble
i didnt thing about that i have too much dmg and its cause problem with ARI

[abstract sequoia]

are you following the Teri or Dreamseeker rotation?

[wraith brook]

DS i dont have any AstralOp

[abstract sequoia]

dont worry just making sure

[wraith brook]

sry

[abstract sequoia]

why sorry?

[abstract sequoia]

you forgot the evades that your ref is doing

thats how they get the missing ARI

[wraith brook]

evades?

i didnt see them

[wraith brook]

worring that im offencive mb

[lone crater]

in transition u can spam evade and jump together to get double ari
+6 if u get it all, but otherwise +3

[abstract sequoia]

You didn't say anything offensive

everything is fine

[drowsy kiln]

how do i.. claim the free elysia ego😭

[abstract sequoia]

in the ds ref it's only really
2:31 - Badum evade

[drowsy kiln]

like the event isnt there in my events section

[wraith brook]

[drowsy kiln]

i just downloaded the game

[wraith brook]

wait u mean i need evade all 3 attack?

[abstract sequoia]

sure why not

[wraith brook]

jsut i understand it also like eveade attack with Evade and jump in same time

[abstract sequoia]

honestly, just focus on doing the evade in the ref first and see if that's enough

[blazing fjord]

But I already use trial eve at stage 4 ..

[wraith brook]

oh but waht

[abstract sequoia]

[wraith brook]

oh i see what we need evade

[lone crater]

did u evade the laser transition

[abstract sequoia]

the cubes Sa is throwing

[abstract sequoia]

check the ref, Hieu Le has full ARI in trans so they're not evading anything

[wraith brook]

i try?
but probably i do it bad
I put corali QTE

[lone crater]

oh 1 so i see

[wraith brook]

I guess its bc of JDS QTE in the end but
im too slow or smth else

[lone crater]

dw about it, i thought u were doing some rots that needed 2 rings, seems like ur doing 1 then

[wraith brook]

dk abou 2 ring,
its with Theresa?

[lone crater]

ss teri yea

[wraith brook]

anyway 777
XD
need try improve it guess?
but i assume JDS in the end problem? ( i mean as i understadn ARI we get from there)

[prisma oyster]

u need to be to a certain level to be able to get jt

[drowsy kiln]

what really😭

[prisma oyster]

yeah if im not wrong level 30

[lone crater]

yes, so right now u dont end p1 with sonk qte?

[wraith brook]

is Cube Throwing is random?

[wraith brook]

I just cant proke QTE

bc boss die or im too slow

[lone crater]

u dont need to dodge the cube if u lazy, its like a 2 point diff at most

[lone crater]

so when you use badum wa boss just dies?

[wraith brook]

well yes?

im not sure
is boss die in ref and they just do it faster then me

[lone crater]

can u record

[wraith brook]

try it now

[lone crater]

but anyways if ur dmg is too high, u can just do stuff like badum ca ult wa then into sonk or something and let sonk kill it instead

[wraith brook]

that unexpted that my dmg high
bc ny dmg lower then in ref

[lone crater]

interesting cuz then u shouldnt be missing ari

[wraith brook]

ca ult wa then into so
CA u mean i do jump and press attack button?

[wraith brook]

and strane in same time
that why i thing im slow

[lone crater]

yes her combo is holding the atk button, u shouldnt need to jump, ppl jump because they want to do air version

when u qte into her, she prob in the air already, but both is fine for u

point is u just do combo to trigger sonk qte, ult and wa is for dmg, to get them low enough so your sonk can kill

[wraith brook]

wait do we need Press WA or fast wa?
oh stop no we not have full stripe(sry if wrong word) for press WA

[lone crater]

so here you should prob have the skill turned on, where it autocasts,

the full meter/stripe/bar is only if you were using her as a support, but you're kia lead here, you need to do some atks to get it filled, then you can get that

when you use her as dps, its not gonna be filled automatically, and you will want to use the enhanced wa, if its full, so you can leave that skill on

so when i said wa there, pressing wa and holding wa wont change anything cuz ur stripe isnt full

[lone crater]

but first record normally following the ref cuz im not sure if its ur overkilling or some other parts

[wraith brook]

oh

ok
so i do record even im not have ARI for p2?

[lone crater]

dont have to

u can record the full thing its up to u, but im prob just gonna watch the first half

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/M1Q4O19vYfQ

@lone crater i try do literlly ref

[eternal spindle]

is there a cope HLE team? and is it worth investing in getting her premium (and if so what's ze whole team and what i need to get)

[lone crater]

yea ok, so kiana gets swapped in, the video he does atk atk jump atk atk weap ult, you just did atk 4 times then weap ult which kills so you have too much dmg

u can try something like hold atk, ult, wa, swap into songque

[prisma oyster]

completely free is hle + vbm + vbb

[wraith brook]

oh i didnt see that
Ok thnkas

So i still need bar for WA?

[lone crater]

no, u wont have enough to get it off, but you just collect the stardust and swap into songque and see how much dmg

[eternal spindle]

what is vbb? cant find it on glossary

[lone crater]

if you missing a bit, then let kiana's wa fully hit before swapping

[wraith brook]

oh that will be hard to do
ok thanks i try

[eternal spindle]

and from that team, where to upgrade first, assuming full gear hle

[prisma oyster]

its typo i meant vbs sorry LOL also for hle general guide https://youtu.be/G5rgIesmGGw?si=X62bDDjBrGZaCCHc

[wraith brook]

can we say its bit?

[lone crater]

do you know what i mean by letting kiana's wa thing to fully hit?

see how in your own vid, at 00:36, you pressed wa then immediately ult, that gathers the starduest, but skips wa's dmg, which normally is fine, im just telling you to first try without skipping, and if you kill, then that all is good.

if it dont kill, you want to let the animation finish then you swap

[prisma oyster]

for investment i cant exactly speak on this since im not really that knowledgeable but if i were to give my personal opinion is that yes rn it is worth it to invest in her team but if ur an f2p that might be hard

[lone crater]

record again?

[prisma oyster]

(assuming u want extra 2 valks and their gears)

[wraith brook]

i try full WA animation

[eternal spindle]

starting out so economy might allow for it, but one at a time so i can realistically save for them

[wraith brook]

well idk?
i thing i let full animation?

[prisma oyster]

@eternal spindle this might interest u

[lone crater]

u can do songque combo's atk at the end

[amber finch]

@lone crater did you buy the carnival equip card bundles

i need help regarding dat

[lone crater]

something something smaller one > biggest one > middle ones i think

but idk i ended buying all

[amber finch]

no not dat

like if i buy out all the 3 cards packs will another tier appear

[amber finch]

mf whale

[wraith brook]

well mb im slow
or try songue qte instead coralie?

[lone crater]

what you see is all you get

[amber finch]

dang, thx babe luv you

[lone crater]

im f2p

[lone crater]

wanna record again its hard pinpoint ur dmg

or stream on twitch or somethig

[abstract sequoia]

i saw that for only that one pack with normal equip cards, where after you buy the 1 card you get a bundle with 3 and one after that too

[wraith brook]

ok i try it now

[abstract sequoia]

didn't buy any carnival cards so i cannot comment on those

[amber finch]

dang

thought i could save smh

[abstract sequoia]

need to know the prices?

i can check my bchip history

[lone crater]

oh yea i alr bought that one out

[lyric anvil]

[abstract sequoia]

what were the steps?

1 > 3 > 5?

[lone crater]

yea should be

i alr forgot

but that one isnt carnival, its just the normal one yea

[amber finch]

nah im goij

[abstract sequoia]

you can check through ai-phone > support what you previously spent on any resource in the game

updates a bit slow but it shows everything retrospectively within 30 days

although i can just buy up to the 3 equips and check myself

the deals were good iirc

[wraith brook]

why

[abstract sequoia]

cora qte > wa should kill

[stable obsidian]

Why is lantern a bad Valk? Or ig the better way of asking is what makes her a bad valk compared to the other p2s

[wraith brook]

but we dont need it in prevous run

[lone crater]

when do you break the last crystallize point

i see the stardust shard here

[wraith brook]

when i was on fws?

[lone crater]

yes but is it after wa or before wa

[wraith brook]

not sure

[lone crater]

just record everything

[wraith brook]

i record all
i thought

[abstract sequoia]

[wraith brook]

i idiot

[abstract sequoia]

happened to me too

[lone crater]

but anyways sounds like ur breaking after the wa hit, which means the stardust fragments dont get picked up,
if you pick up it would've died

[abstract sequoia]

fatfingered pause

[wraith brook]

Now i do CA WA ULT an then WA and swap on JDS and kill it

but im not record it

[lone crater]

what were you doing before it

ca ult wa or ca wa ult

[wraith brook]

before what?

[abstract sequoia]

tapping last WA is enough there

[lone crater]

just then, in that screenshot
before u swap to songque

[abstract sequoia]

badum doesn't need to hit it

just gather

[wraith brook]

oh
CA ULT WA (WA - with animation)

[lone crater]

hm ok, so it takes the final wa to break the crystallize

[abstract sequoia]

i would only do it with animation if you didn't burn Sa's hp yet

[lone crater]

he needs the dmg to break the crystallize

[abstract sequoia]

and basics aren't faster?

[lone crater]

wa is faster than basics, doing the full basic 4 is too much for him tho

[wraith brook]

hm so guess jds better in the end at all
*qte

[abstract sequoia]

i meant like basic 1>2

[lone crater]

wa does more than basic 1 and2

[abstract sequoia]

okay

[lone crater]

but like he needs to record to properly figure out how much dmg he needs before he breaks the thing then swap into sonk

[wraith brook]

So i recrod then how i do it now?

record*

man

[lyric anvil]

[abstract sequoia]

double checked, WA is 300% while BA 1 and 2 are 240%

[lone crater]

you can yea, but do you get what the goal is here?

the idea is just do enough dmg on fws so that you can quickly break the last crystallize point, then use fws gather and swap to sonk and kill

[quick birch]

there's a HLE cope team pinned in this channel so give it a look, regarding her "premium team" you wouldnt really actively invest into it but rather focus on new releases which are very likely to function with HLE. Also a premium team depends a lot on the situation you're in, supports change based on what utility you need in a fight. Also the difference between proper supports is very marginal in ranks below nirvana so to go out of your way to try and backpull her current best ones isnt the best idea since you would miss out on valks which are currently at their peak value.

!faq backpull

[small willow]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[wraith brook]

hm

[lone crater]

wa has 2 hits, is 300% both there

[abstract sequoia]

the skill says 100%+200%

[quick birch]

check this out for why backpull is generally a bad idea from a meta perspective

[wraith brook]

i record and u can say what we can do with that
and i try figure out smth mb

[abstract sequoia]

its a hard read tbh, please correct me if I'm wrong

[wraith brook]

what u about?

[lone crater]

it could do more dmg

[lone crater]

btw cuz ur not getting the evade off, so, atk atk jump atk atk

ur actually doing more dmg in that string

[wraith brook]

so in case we do CA ULT im not break it i need little dmg

[wraith brook]

so i need to do this?

[lone crater]

where do u see 240% on ba 1 and 2
on ground
1: 80
2: 160

on air
1: 100
2: 180

[wraith brook]

i do like 1-2 b BA then WA and end

and if im not wrong record it all

[lone crater]

ah ok, that's cool,
so u dont need to worry about earlier
just fit one atk in there, before you do wa on kiana

[abstract sequoia]

80+160 is 240?

i just added it up

[lone crater]

oh, i thought u meant each, then yea weap 300 better no

[abstract sequoia]

nah

i mean 280% mid-air

[lone crater]

then if you do the extra atk, then add in wa, do you need the wa animation to complete

[abstract sequoia]

its like 20% dmg diff and i believe also faster

[lone crater]

air weap is pretty fast as well

[abstract sequoia]

we're talking about milliseconds tbh

[lone crater]

i feel like he gonna cancel his atks with ba 1 and 2

[abstract sequoia]

probably wont matter too much for redlotus unless they want cap score

[abstract sequoia]

how so

[lone crater]

ba 1 into 2, but u can swap out or do something early and not the second atk doesnt finish

[abstract sequoia]

is that even possible?

[lone crater]

anyways did u figure out u need the wa animation at the end

[wraith brook]

well have 790
im not sure

[wraith brook]

i guess i can skip it?
If we do JDS CA

[abstract sequoia]

jds CA would be slower

[lone crater]

it is, cuz it can be multiple instances of dmg but count as one string

and if u swap out before the string for one atk finishes

u can pay attentino to the hitcoun t

[abstract sequoia]

i mean sure, i just don't know if that's the case for any multi-hit attack sequences

[wraith brook]

i cant kill it without CA

[abstract sequoia]

hmm, yeah i mean cora has a shift ready

but that probably won't be enough

you could use it before swapping into jds and see if it works

maybe then the first CA hit kills

[lone crater]

think then u wanna do a few more qte swaps, cuz that is quite close yea

[lone crater]

so at start, after the first badum ba 4 wa, dont swap into songque
swap into cora and thne into songque

[lone crater]

then at the end u can maybe skip the ca on songque and qte into cora

[wraith brook]

~~i can try Atk, Atk, Jump, Atk, atk and fast WA with swap ~~
m

[slim blaze]

How's the bald

[wraith brook]

waht?

[slim blaze]

U know.. the grind

[wraith brook]

oh

[lone crater]

u can do all that, but im saying u might not need the songque ca at the end if you add in a qte to cora before, and then add another cora qte at the end
these 2 cora qte might be enough
and should be faster than the time it takes for songque ca

[slim blaze]

I took a nap woke up ur still malding HAHA. Gotta respect that

[wraith brook]

oh i do it together

[lone crater]

yes

[wraith brook]

just try figure out what i can do
since i can properly repat ref

[lone crater]

so cora buff into songque break first crystallize

now badum does ba4 wa then into swap songque normally right?
instead you swap into cora and then into songque, so an extra cora qte dmg
then continue on as usual
and at the end add another cora qte after swapping into songque

[slim blaze]

Ah lack damage?

[lone crater]

he does too much

[slim blaze]

Oh

[wraith brook]

[lone crater]

cant finish on songque

[slim blaze]

Is it the jds qte

[lone crater]

yea

[wraith brook]

And i have Less dmg on character
guess its red thing problem

[slim blaze]

What if u don't use ult except for fdd

Haven't backread

WHAT IF U USE VBM

[lone crater]

he could do that yea, and intentionally lower the dmg, but maybe this current way of adding qtes can be faster

[slim blaze]

Instead of FDD

[lone crater]

xd

[wraith brook]

oh

[slim blaze]

Too much dmg loss

[wraith brook]

oh i see

what i skip?

[storm lantern]

similar thing happened to me, ref outdmged me but i have too much dmg to add attacks and still kill with cora drain. very cringe

[lone crater]

idk, idk what u skipped, i didnt see what u did

[wraith brook]

i dont record it, i pause it

[slim blaze]

Stream time

[lone crater]

ig the easiest way, to save some sanity,
is just intentionally not ult yea
its just that this way we prob cant find a faster way to make use of ur extra dmg

[slim blaze]

What if fws opener

To lessen jds initial dmg

Like

[lone crater]

could yea

[slim blaze]

Fws > jds qte ca ult > fdd stuff > fws stuff ....

[slim blaze]

At the end of the day, its night

[sick pebble]

afklord

[lone crater]

but its gonna be same time overall, so im just saying if he can do the extra qte instead of badum's enhanced wa and songque ca, it could be faster

[lone crater]

but try recording

[slim blaze]

Ngl if overdamage just don't ult and save sanity

Lmao

[lone crater]

yea

thats the slack way

[slim blaze]

Slacc time

[slim blaze]

U aiming for t1-3?

[wraith brook]

MAN

[lone crater]

he t1 alr, but its like, u ask for help, then u try to optimize with the extra dmg

[slim blaze]

Is that without ulting?

[slim blaze]

Woah

[wraith brook]

not its m

[slim blaze]

Sorry im a professional slaccer

[wraith brook]

im too

[lone crater]

ngl can do affixes xd

[slim blaze]

Errr. T1 but still malding

[wraith brook]

mb end with Cora

[lone crater]

but you just add the cora qte in ig, but yea, if you can kill on songque qte that would be nice, becuz then you actually going faster than the ref

[wraith brook]

ngl im guess end soon
1st i need do thing before 2 pm and
2nd im little how to sa yit angry(?)(just some stuff going bad, but now its pure intreset how far i can go(?))

oh cora not enough

[slim blaze]

Ah i see

[slim blaze]

Got it. The term is gamer pride

[lone crater]

i think if u fix the affixes u prob can kill when you qte'd in with songque
but now honestly its fine to consider just skipping ults on songque or badum so you can follow the ref

[wraith brook]

oh

[lone crater]

oh

idk what u did but very cool

[wraith brook]

U mean in 1st phase?
and try to do BA BA Jump BA BA Ult WA?

[lone crater]

no you know how u were left with a sliver, when you qte'd on songque

[lone crater]

here, so u prob can finish 915 on p1

if everyone just slightly better affixes

[wraith brook]

so i need

[abstract sequoia]

an affix check

[wraith brook]

waht is cora weap?

[abstract sequoia]

rocket hammer

[lone crater]

would take the new one here anyways cuz its better than ur old one

[wraith brook]

oh
i skip it

[lone crater]

this one better

[abstract sequoia]

math > purple affix with long bar

[lone crater]

i'd put more focus on badum though

she does more dmg

[abstract sequoia]

badum and jds imo

[lone crater]

yes jds but badum first

[abstract sequoia]

jds can also have crit damage

[lone crater]

hence more focus on badum

[wraith brook]

idk how
but Badum mostly on all 16 atk

[abstract sequoia]

don't fall into the crit rate trap though, it's actually CRT which is much lower than what it shows

[slim blaze]

Clearly its claws

[abstract sequoia]

its knowledge that saves you a ton of ncc when trying to fix it later

[amber finch]

crt is not crit rate (yeah stupid ik)
you get your crt value and put it through a weird ass equation for the real crit %

[wraith brook]

[abstract sequoia]

!faq crt

[small willow]

Understanding Critical Hit Rate and Damage

Allow me to explain, Captain!

[Click here](#💁gameplay-help message) for the explanation of CRT, Crit Rate, and Crit Damage!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[slim blaze]

Crt is the old tv duh

Cathode ray tube

[wraith brook]

they kidding me

[abstract sequoia]

in a shellnut, crt calc first then any crit rate added from buffs and skills

that's how your actual crit rate is calculated

[slim blaze]

If u run sera less math more yellow numbers

[abstract sequoia]

still math

[slim blaze]

I didn't say no math. I said less

[abstract sequoia]

crit conversion removes crit damage for 100% rate

so need to math what works better still

(WoD only for Sera anyway)

[slim blaze]

Technically u only need more than 0% crate then just mald for cdam

Sorry too kekw

[wraith brook]

Sera?
and in simple word we better do atk?

[slim blaze]

Smooth brain moment

[abstract sequoia]

yes, but I meant this mostly for back then when we determined what supports are better with JDS

[abstract sequoia]

Serapeum, an astralop for Wheel of Destiny

[wraith brook]

oh

[abstract sequoia]

she has crit conversion as a skill for that ring while in Outburst

which converts as much crit damage as possible until you hit 100% rate

only relevant on JDS leader teams

her supports at the time also give crit dmg or rate, so it was a hot topic

either way, don't get confused about this. crit damage and atk on jds is good

[slim blaze]

Icic

[abstract sequoia]

if you want a golden ratio, do 2 cdmg + 4 atk affixes

but don't burn great affixes over hitting that ratio

its a very minor difference

[amber finch]

you wont notice it in rl

[abstract sequoia]

and to answer this, JDS in LoA has way more crit rate anyway so crit malding no longer is an issue

this on top of some of her skills providing boosted crit rates anyway

[wraith brook]

So i can (mb im not properly understand) make ATK here ?
and LoA mean She need leader, or just be in team

[abstract sequoia]

I'd keep this as it is

the cdmg is good, atk at 20 also meets the minimum to be good

[abstract sequoia]

LoA is Law of Ascension, so when she supports a LoA valk she has buffs that apply to that ring

WoD is her actual ring which takes effect when she is the leader or another WoD valk leads

[wraith brook]

So, in evening when back to game i change FWS better
Or better M since that have 8 atk and fws anywhere 16+

[abstract sequoia]

you can roll that 8 atk into something better, but how many affix locks do you have?

[wraith brook]

Im not sure
but assume more and enough then

[abstract sequoia]

that's normal crystal cores

i meant the material for rolling when locking one of the two affixes

[wraith brook]

dont remebmer and cant check for now

i will say this evening
if u will be here then

[abstract sequoia]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Wafer_Stabilizer

[abstract sequoia]

these

[abstract sequoia]

yea sure

I'll be there

need to mald my own run though, so idk if I'll have time

[storm lantern]

ram help me my score is too bad

[abstract sequoia]

how bad

[storm lantern]

774

[abstract sequoia]

that's higher than me if youre Nirvana

[storm lantern]

yeah but i have sss chenxue and +2 fdd

[abstract sequoia]

[storm lantern]

theres an ss chenxue +1 fdd at 780

[wraith brook]

how much we need per 1 roll?

[storm lantern]

i prob outdmg him i think im just bad but idk how to fix

[abstract sequoia]

20 Wafer Stabilizers and 300 NCC

[wraith brook]

m but i not rember what i have at begin before start roll

[storm lantern]

just 20

[abstract sequoia]

corrected sry

still, the NCC costs are more problematic in the beginning

later you will lack stabilizers more

[wraith brook]

so if im not wrong
i have about 500 Wafer Stabilizer mb only around 300

[abstract sequoia]

with the only reliable source being Abyss clears and War Treasury

[wraith brook]

i wonder when its happen

[abstract sequoia]

but you don't want to buy out Stabilizers in WT

[abstract sequoia]

as soon as you don't lack NCC anymore

[wraith brook]

only thing i buy was NCC
and starting lack of money

then stop

[abstract sequoia]

buy out the NCCs for coins but hold back on asterite

it's more a nirvana thing to min-max affixes and not for just 20 atk, we're talking close to 23 max atk

[wraith brook]

[abstract sequoia]

in redlotus is will matter a bit especially when your account is lacking stats from dks and dorm bonus

but optimizing your rotation and skill matters most

[tall flax]

Bless Critical Point

[abstract sequoia]

i got into nirvana first with wayy too low stats

because I kept outplaying my redlotus brackets

of course the stay was short, one cycle and out

[wraith brook]

m i guess
i have problem with Cora as Opening but other stuff, cant see only if somone say

like, ult start and stop timer at 983

when top is 984

[abstract sequoia]

thats normal, you'll get used to the same tricks eventually

just take notes if you can't remember well

[wraith brook]

guess i understand more or less

[abstract sequoia]

milliseconds of difference really

[wraith brook]

but still
I SEE IT but yes 1 point only

[abstract sequoia]

framerate sadly also matters, so if you get stutters or cap it to a low framerate, it eats away your points

[wraith brook]

somehow we came to end with JDS , need some atk just and guess we good, mb i not properly do p2, if talk about time to use SO

[abstract sequoia]

yeah try again after you get that atk affix better

[wraith brook]

[abstract sequoia]

really no indicator? because then a recording would help

[storm lantern]

i cant record cause my laptop cant handle it, redownloading on pc rn so soon though

[abstract sequoia]

oki

780 is crazy though if they didnt whale dks

my best right now is 762

[delicate tulip]

How much crystal needed for kiana outfit again? 9000?

[charred burrow]

9600

[blazing fjord]

Hi.it let me stop using love elf trial card at stage 5 ..I being told don't need to upgrade any Valkyries for stages by using the trial card

[odd plume]

just use free valk you got

especially HoV

just use basic stuffs like this, easy clear

the issue is they dont allow p2 valk after chapter 4, love elf is p2
if you have trial card of p1 valk, you can still use them

[proud maple]

So do I have enough time to get elysia and her weapon?

I'm a returnee

[ancient needle]

Depends on how many crystals you have rn and your one-time crystal sources

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[proud maple]

90 pulls left..for elysia only

I have around 2.6k crystals

I guess a f2p cannot get all the new S ranks..

[proud maple]

Is it right?

[ancient needle]

It's more about you being a returnee rather than being F2P or not

[proud maple]

Oh...but I do have those 15 pulls which they gave us during anniversary

[ancient needle]

You didn't mention your one-time crystal sources, particularly Part 1 story and ER

[proud maple]

P1 story almost done

Have completed until chapter 27

P2 also almost done

Except some other missions

[ancient needle]

So, ain't much

ig you could still try, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too much

[proud maple]

Yes... Aint much

[ancient needle]

Make sure to always keep 60 pulls in the tank while pulling the valk

[proud maple]

Lucsac can only help

[ancient needle]

That way you can guarantee the weap after you get the valk

[proud maple]

Yes...

Let me try.. atleast

[lucid snow]

does any of the current events use stamina for stages?

[shell basin]

no

[civic ibex]

Returning for HLE , acc lvl 63 should I start a new acc

[shell basin]

How many crystals do you have, what does your pity look like, and how much of the story have you done?

The answer is probably, since all but two of these are free and one of the two is almost useless atp, but it’s hard to be certain

[civic ibex]

No crystals didn't do story part 2

[shell basin]

Then unless you have a very low pity you’re almost certainly better off making a new one

Tho you can do the 10 free pulls

And see if you get lucky

[civic ibex]

I have 29 pulls left till HLE

And I have 2 stigs of her

Got lucky with sparkle

[next spade]

What's the best team comp i can use against this?

[earnest kestrel]

I got the new Seele weapon and it asked me if I should upgrade it to a divine weapon or not, should I do it or not?

If you can recommend me

[charred burrow]

Badum fdd paws

[civic ibex]

Is 29 considered low pity

[charred burrow]

Always refine, they give u +10 atk
Make sure to go dorm > divine key, and then activate to get the buff

[next spade]

So Kiana part 2, FDD?who's that, and Coralie S Rank

[earnest kestrel]

He didn't know that could be activated, thanks

[charred burrow]

Badum = kiana
Fdd = s rank coralie
Paws = s rank helia

[next spade]

A

thx

[shell basin]

If you’re 29 from S rank it is probably still better to restart but it’s closer; 29 is low you can probably pull her before her banner goes away

[shell basin]

If this is abyss HLE Badum FDD actually outscores that

Badum is still the best against this boss but she needs JDS for it

If you don’t have JDS HLE takes it with Badum support

[charred burrow]

Oh i just got out of 2hr in MA and thought this is MA

No wonder the boss background look so strange

[shell basin]

So yeah @next spade my advice is HLE Badum FDD

[civic ibex]

I also have 2 stigs of her so still restart?

[shell basin]

Stigs are all craftable, they don’t really matter

If you’re attached your current account you can stick with it and get her, if you want to get back into meta asap you should restart (and maybe even reroll), in between those it depends entirely on what your goals

Actually are. You’re not cooked either way at least

[grim sinew]

Is it true that it's easier to level up in a new acc? I used to play hi3 but just on a whim and never returned I'm stuck at level 48 but I wanna get to lvl 70 quickly to do the abyss and buy mobius, should I start a new acc to get all the freebies of newbies or continue on my old lvl 48 acc? Which is faster I just want mobius

[odd plume]

it is fast but also depend on how you play

but why lv 70 specifically?

[grim sinew]

to play abyss

[odd plume]

lv 71 is masters abyss, basically the same as before, just harder

superstring dimension is lv 81

[civic ibex]

I just wanna get HLE and then get into the meta ig, which will be faster tho?

[shell basin]

Reroll > New Account > continue old account, in terms of pure irl speed

Also in terms of meta

[civic ibex]

And in terms of getting HLE

[shell basin]

Yeah, in terms of pure irl speed for getting HLE

That’s the order

[civic ibex]

Alr thanks

[next spade]

I gotta learn how to play the new Ely i think what u do is just spam arrows with ultimate right? and make the flower bloom by pressing weapon and then ult

[odd plume]

oh, you want the currency from masters abyss

[shell basin]

So what you want to do is use Ult whenever buffs are up and you have 150 SP. You click and hold Ult until it uses up all 150 SP. You can refresh that SP with basic attack sequences, weapon active, qtes, etc

Many rotations do more specific things but the generic thing you do is QTE in, ult, weapon active, ult, basic attack, ult, repeat until buffs almost wear off

[next spade]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-ウマ-gif-14226720638387417112

thx

[grim sinew]

It says lvl 70 tho but do I need to be 81 like u said?

I just need her

[shell basin]

You get some at 70+ and then more at 80+

[grim sinew]

Should I start a new acc so it will be faster? Since in my current one I didnt get the weekly/daily log in prizes

Im lvl 48

[odd plume]

if you only care about the currency and lv, keep playing lv48 account will be faster, tho the amount you get at lv 71 is very low, like 15 more a week compare with before

[grim sinew]

Oh so to grind faster to get the currency I should atleat be 81?

[shell basin]

Yes

There’s much bigger rewards for being able to clear the 81+ SSS MA bosses quickly enough

[grim sinew]

How long does it take to reach that level? Any estimations?

[shell basin]

It took me like a patch and a half but I am a story slacker

[odd plume]

about 1 month from lv1 to 81 for speedrunner

[grim sinew]

Ohh I see! Thanks a lot for the info guys!! Really helpful^^

[latent hatch]

Hello! Are the stigs from time capsule of any use?

[haughty elbow]

no

[glad ice]

collecting bringer of light set give u a good emblem

[lone crater]

doesnt beat nirv badge

[glad ice]

nirv +6atk is kinda OP

[lone crater]

i thought i was cooking when i rmb i had that badge, then it did worse

if myriad badge did anything

[ancient needle]

Does BoL actually beat the RL emblem btw

[lone crater]

or if 0.2 ma badge did anything

[glad ice]

3%fire/ lightning ice

[ancient needle]

It does tho, it's +1 CRT 🤓

[lone crater]

ice, fire ice

[haughty elbow]

dont think it does

[ancient needle]

Sadge

[lone crater]

ma badge the biggest meme

[glad ice]

u do MA for the frame

[lone crater]

my frame has not changed in years

[abstract sequoia]

I limittested Sparkle emblem for totally non-obsessive reasons and it seemed better than RL emblem

(also 3% fire dmg)

[ancient needle]

Totally cuz of necessity fr

[abstract sequoia]

yes

[old parrot]

is the valkyries I pull in limited banners guaranteed?

[storm lantern]

yes

[signal kettle]

reminds me of when this was meta

[abstract sequoia]

8th anniversary emblem actually has 1% crit rate and 3% fire dmg

while badum and jds were the top picks for SD bosses

[signal kettle]

that 1% crate doing nothing

This was meta because of the 2nd stat

[abstract sequoia]

oh dirac sea?

[storm lantern]

[signal kettle]

yea, the bleed

there was a persistent bleed in abyss

it wasn't even actually dirac sea

[lone crater]

infinity abyss

[signal kettle]

https://youtu.be/CG46hq3Z5Rg

Q-Singularity had it too

[lone crater]

yea

[signal kettle]

we used YA for bleed resist too, and ogier T also had it I think. Might have been one of the other singles tho

ah m and 2set. F2p abyss staples

[frozen crypt]

VE SSS was op for reduced bleed dmg and iirc HoF iframes took no bleed dmg

[signal kettle]

so much more fun

when did this game stop being about surviving the honkai

I think it was HT release, which was followed by EX

[lone tide]

what should i get here?

[lone crater]

do u ever plan to get thel weap by bp

if no prob just kia elf frag
but u can hold on till the last day

[lone tide]

kia elf?

[lone crater]

kiana elf

[lone tide]

kay

[maiden garden]

How do i switch to the other modes like agony??

[ancient needle]

1. It's not a mode, it's a rank/tier
2. You wait until Abyss resets

The next reset is on Friday

[maiden garden]

Ohh sorry im new to the game

[ancient needle]

No need to apologize

[maiden garden]

Thanks for your helpp

[wraith brook]

@abstract sequoia im little miss

[wraith brook]

[storm lantern]

wow u r dedicated to those locks

good

[wraith brook]

NOTHING useful
get all dmg but no Staff or SD

[wraith brook]

wdym?

[storm lantern]

i mean usually people have a ton of ncc and not so many locks

[stray moon]

looking for pull suggestion, here are my only AR valks (full gear) and only missing dracora weap, i have enough to guarantee a weapon and with the recent announcement of hohe AR gear rerun, I'm conflicted whether to get dracora weap or enable my hohe AR

[wraith brook]

idk why
but it alayws NCC problem
1*Well i guess i cant do more then 790 in that case
i buy already NCC for coins

[eternal spindle]

which of these do i get or does it not matter

[storm lantern]

doesn't matter you get them all eventually

[serene crystal]

#👶beginner-help message

[wraith brook]

where is that?

i mean where we get it?

[fluid grove]

what is the best elf? sirin? klein?

[fluid grove]

go to attack > start > realms of battle

[wraith brook]

Guess i have them all?
thanks

[fluid grove]

i think you can check at dorm > divine keys

[wraith brook]

they just not look simmilar to waht i have

[serene crystal]

Kiana ELF is generally the best option but is only sometimes better then DS if at least 3 star.

[gusty fractal]

just got valk choice thingy from the outfit banner and i just made my acc today, should i go for hof or elysia?

[serene crystal]

see pins for info about who is a decent idea to choose. If you have nothing the difference is pretty small and you should probably wait for more info about next patch before deciding.

[wraith brook]

Can we use PAWS insetead JDS for Sa
In FWS dps?

[maiden garden]

What teams for what bosses?

I was told to distribute my strongest valks since hle can clear on her own or smth

Only hle has her weapon

[frozen crypt]

No Pardo? No TA?

Wait blind you have pardo

[frozen crypt]

HLE Kira Pardo on Sa, should be ez at this level
Both Helias and I guess HoTr on bird
HoV you can try coralie dps, I think it may end up better than your other options even with type counter

[shrewd lichen]

I have a question,how many patchs each Bp crystals last

[outer spruce]

the crystallums? they don't expire anymore

[shrewd lichen]

So they don't change into a new color one,or they can be converted?

[ancient needle]

The former

[outer spruce]

they don't change color anymore

[shrewd lichen]

Oh nice so i can get then with no worries

[tall flax]

In theory you can infinitely save up without expiring

[shrewd lichen]

Before i quit getting them was a pain cuz the color change

[simple remnant]

ik its not really related to characters and all that but is there any way of making the 2d cutsceenes and pictures of the p1 history to be at least hd?

cause im hating the fact that i play and the pics are looking like if they have lower resolution than 480p-

[ancient needle]

Early cutscenes were compressed at some point unfortunately, and there isn't anything you can do about it

They improve as you progress though

[simple remnant]

so sad

[ancient needle]

You can watch them on YT ig

[simple remnant]

im in chapter 19 and the pictures are literally PIXELS-

[ancient needle]

That's kinda too late to be complaining about that iirc

Try asking #🔌technical-help

[slim blaze]

who to use in ER lel

[royal stratus]

Yo guys.
I used to play HI3 a few years ago not for long, just a few months.
Re-downloaded it this week. I barely remember how this game works.
Pulled Elysia on the current banner. She’s strong… or at least looks like it.
Don’t know if she fits my team though.
I feel really lost, I don’t even know what team to build for the Memorial Arena.
If anyone’s got some advice, I’d appreciate it.

[potent estuary]

hello guys which one to pick?

[green gale]

should i choose h.o.t mei?

[simple bobcat]

i rlly hope silverwing bronya and sns get a divine key since theyre from apho and now were in part 2

[lyric anvil]

That's probably not likely

[simple bobcat]

one can dream 😔

[blazing fjord]

Hi.how to differentiate between p1 and p2 characters?

[shell basin]

You don’t really have a proper team for her but you can use HLE Vita Blastmetal

For abyss

[weary halo]

How do I link my hi3 acc?

[shell basin]

In memorial arena since you need to split it up you can use like, Vita Blastmetal Boltstorm

And then HLE RC JK

And then maybe a third physical team with TA support or just split off Blastmetal, if you need a third

[shell basin]

#homu-playground pins

[royal stratus]

Thanks!
I'm trying to build two other teams for the MA.

[shell basin]

Yeah I gave some spitballing ideas there but it kind of depends on what p1 options you have there because the SS team is gonna be cope either way

[maiden garden]

I see thx

[wide bison]

Is this a one time thing?

[shell basin]

no

you get 1 a week until you have all 5

[wide bison]

Oh

That's neat

[shell basin]

no real priority but gloves are probably slightly better first and star of eden is last

[potent estuary]

need help which better to pick

[spiral badge]

there's a very elaborate pinned message i made for this

be sure to check out other pins for other stuff this patch and plenty of general info too

i see Ber in the other help channel directed you by posting a link to this channel earlier but you may have misunderstood. They also specified the pins.

Do you have trouble finding where the pins are? Are you on pc or mobile?

[jolly pulsar]

Brother I hope APHO Mei gets a battle suit

[inner bronze]

which

also what should i use white bp balls for?

[serene crystal]

see pins for spending event priority

Metawise crystallum should mainly go towards buying d-keys

[lone crater]

arent those balls pink

[maiden garden]

haiii I just came back, which of the two should I make?

[serene crystal]

Both, most of the benefits come from the 3 pc bonus

Again assuming you have finished pulling for weapon

[old parrot]

is there soft pity in this game? or not stated

[amber finch]

@old parrot however i wouldnt rely on it this hard, always have enough to guarantee or atleast close to guarantee both valk and weap

[old parrot]

okii ty

[proud maple]

Is it possible to form an entire team now if I start playing this game? @shell basin @wide bison @maiden garden

I get elysia from the new banner..and some other P2 valks from the reruns?

Would it be good?

@amber finch

@old parrot

[lone crater]

those pings

[proud maple]

Sry

[lone crater]

is alg

[proud maple]

I was too excited

[lone crater]

im not the one pinged so xd

[shell basin]

You can if you backpull but it’s not reccomended

It would work fine

[proud maple]

So what to do as a beginner

[shell basin]

I would mostly only do it if I was rerolling

Tho if you were rerolling it would be fine

[lone crater]

if u rly wanna backpull for elysia it would only be fdd

[proud maple]

I will...if I get lucky I can get them all

[proud maple]

Fdd banner ends today right?

[shell basin]

No, FDD banner won’t be for a couple of days

[proud maple]

Oh..

So fdd and elysia..

[shell basin]

If you want to reroll you would be rerolling for Hi Love Elf and then either Ps or Badum from carnival and if you got either one you could keep it

And then run HLE PS/Badum VBM and have a ~full team

[proud maple]

Ok..how do I get them?

[shell basin]

Carnival supply banner, it should give you 20 free pulls

[proud maple]

Yes..and rest I have to get myself

[shell basin]

Well, if you’re rerolling you’d just get it in the first 20

[proud maple]

So reroll for carnival supply right?

If I get lucky I can keep the account

[shell basin]

Yeah, use the 10 free Elysia pulls and the 20 free carnival pulls on each account, and then if you get lucky and get one of them you can keep the account and have a full team this patch

[proud maple]

Sounds very good

[shell basin]

#👶beginner-help message is the rerolling pin

[proud maple]

And can buy the beginner stuff If needed

I wish to be a monthly spender that's it..

I actually have another account where I have Coralie full set and HoHe full set

[shell basin]

Makes sense. Rerolling is a lot of work but it’s the equivalent of like 30 bucks of monthly cards saved

So it’s a really good deal

[proud maple]

But still underperforming

[shell basin]

That might be a question of rotation, if you like your old account we can help you fix your damage, but if you’re not attached to it a new account seems fine too

[proud maple]

I will not be able to get the elysia

[shell basin]

A lot of this games damage comes from having the right team but there’s also a lot from knowing how to use the right team and we help with both

Ah yeah if you want new Elysia then that’s an easy reason for restarting

[proud maple]

I want it

She's the best dps

[shell basin]

In that case, GL with your gacha! May you get her in the first few rerolls

Instead of having to spend a lot of time on it

[amber finch]

since you’re already answered imma just give a precaution, you can ping me freely but try not to ping in other also very new captains who cant really help you with your matter

i can see like atleast 3 captains who you’ve pinged that dont know much about this game just yet

[shell basin]

Exactly, who in their right mind would ping someone like ches for advice

[amber finch]

what the fork

[lyric anvil]

Kek

[shell basin]

(Since this is a help channel I should probably clarify that ches’ advice is actually usually fine, it’s a joke about how he used to be)

[amber finch]

I WAS A GOOD HELPER BACK THEN TOOO

[proud maple]

How long a patch last?

[shell basin]

10 weeks for this one

Usually 9-10 in general

[amber finch]

nowadays its 9-10 weeks, this patch for example is 10

[proud maple]

Also can a monthly spender gets all the new valk and their full set?

[amber finch]

calendar jumpscare

[shell basin]

Yes, a f2p player can get about 3 in 4 and a monthly card should be fine unless they’re super unlucky

[amber finch]

provided you dont get fucked by the rng gods then you should be able to afford them

[shell basin]

Especially if you’re also a beginner who gets tons of free crystals from that too

[amber finch]

dont rely on this too much but do make sure you have 30k+ crystals before pulling

and dont skip a valkyrie’s weapon

if you get her weapon then just immediately stop pulling even if you’re missing a stigmata or 2

[slim blaze]

Thats what i did

[amber finch]

you can craft the stigmata + you get a free stig for debut valkyries

[slim blaze]

And im still rolling for hle bow

[amber finch]

lmao

did hle hard pity you

ber is actually a perfect example then

[slim blaze]

4 left

[amber finch]

[slim blaze]

Or smth

Both dkey and hle reached single digits

Now im saving for bow and costume

[slim blaze]

ok
lvl 40
10k bp total
7k bp in a week

time to speedrun