👶beginner-help

[prisma oyster]

ur valks are just very outdated

[sweet flax]

or ps instead of fws, but fws has the sd bonuses for hle

ps has niche coverage

[fierce cave]

These abbreviation are setting me back.

[glad ice]

can u do it with 2k xtal

[sweet flax]

oh wait

I thought you were asking, not someone else

[sweet flax]

I mean probably ye, you just gotta luccsack carnival + hle

[glad ice]

aight mb as well i need to get used to using reply function

[sweet flax]

oh lol

mb I need to read better

[fierce cave]

When I make a new account who do I go for

[prisma oyster]

check pinned for pulling priority

[sweet flax]

already covered what you would go for

[prisma oyster]

but def elysia the new one aka hle aka Hi! Love Elysia

[sweet flax]

ignore fws if you cant get her from carnival if you dont wanna keep making new accounts

since rerolling will take you a couple of runs

[fierce cave]

I don't know what those abbreviations are..

[glad ice]

they would think wad de hell are those spy codename

[sweet flax]

wait is fws on carnival rn tbw

[glad ice]

not yet

[prisma oyster]

are carnival valks worth it without gear?

[fierce cave]

..

[sweet flax]

fws - fiery wishing star kiana on carnival banner next round
hle - hi love elf elysia on battlesuit banner

there is a glossary in pins

ignore starter banner its a scam (units wise)

[fierce cave]

Oh ok

[sweet flax]

are you planning on rerolling or just a new account?

[glad ice]

the rate of starter seem very high tho ( but still a scam)

[sweet flax]

starter rates are the same rates as the normal banner

• discounted first 10 pull

so crystals wise its the same as a debut banner

which is why I said its a scam units wise

dsa and jds are terrible units to pull today

[glad ice]

its just number, i should have said luck rate

still a scam, yes

[zenith quest]

what’s the best character to use for the final exam thing in the new event

[sweet flax]

vill v

[zenith quest]

and while i’m here, what are like the buffs i should pick i just don’t want to die and need to do the whole thing again grrr

[zenith quest]

like the perks

[glad ice]

atk is the best defense

[sweet flax]

cdr atk and atk speed, 4th slot can be any defensive option

atk speed only matters if one of your weapons will use it btw

can click on them to see the scaling stat, and benefits from stat

[zenith quest]

oohhhh

[sweet flax]

most of the weapons you wanna pick up will be cdr and atk scalers

[zenith quest]

thank you

[glad ice]

check here

i never expected vill-v gun to scale with atk spd

[sweet flax]

I remember it being atk wtf

[glad ice]

no villv gun atk is fixed number

[sweet flax]

well ye but I meant the benefits from stat

[zenith quest]

wwit rlly?? i am using vill v now and getting all atk lmaoooo whoops

[sweet flax]

I forgot

[zenith quest]

does the main story in like all of hi3 give good gems?? i have soo much stamina and i am not a. lore player at all so i have like basically the entire quest since physical ely release

[glad ice]

if they shoot faster the dps will be higher i g. but the in-stage description doesnt say anything about it

[sweet flax]

can check one time crystals pin to get a general idea

[sweet flax]

xd its fine the plan was atk + atk speed + cdr anyways

[solar thistle]

should i pull vita or sparkle in the carn supply

[glad ice]

look like the weapon has hidden scaling with either atk spd or cd

[glad ice]

not recommend to spend xtal

[solar thistle]

with the 20 i still have them lmao

[zenith quest]

omggg so many crystals ok i will grind the story

[sweet flax]

from a meta perspective preferably try for fws or ps instead, the first pin goes more into detail on why
also you should only use your free pulls
if you are determined to pick between vita and sparkle only, then vita is the better of the 2

[glad ice]

vita s2 is best if u alr have all of them

[zenith quest]

wait is vita s2 good?? i got her ina. double and was always kinda salty but ayeee

[solar thistle]

i have kiana already and im not interested in sushang

[sweet flax]

why would vita s2 be bad, the only bad thing about it is the weapon time fracture in some cases but that can be disabled

[zenith quest]

idk if this is the right place to ask but i don’t understand discord enough… is the ely bridge background thing coming back this anniversary? i missed out on the event and i want it soo bad

[glad ice]

fws/sushang/tfm s2 isnt as good improvement as vita s2

[zenith quest]

not bad i mean ^^ bg i don’t read any of the descriptions

[sweet flax]

in terms of abyss*

[glad ice]

while me nothing from the free pull

[sweet flax]

that's the majority of us to be fair

I still havent gotten anything from carnival in all the carnivals that passed

[spiral badge]

me neither

absolutely more expected than not

[upbeat egret]

Meanwhile i am the only s0 vita haver in EU

Scam carnival

[sweet flax]

s0 vita in the big 8.5 is crazy

[spiral badge]

feels like thelema lol

[sweet flax]

I thought I was gonna leave this patch with an S2 or SS thel, I thought very wrong 😭

[glad ice]

u cant have s2 vita if u dont pull

[quick birch]

I feel you lightning andrius will be rough

[upbeat egret]

I don't even want to play that boss with s0 vita

It feels miserable

[sweet flax]

asa you gotta believe

if you dont believe... then how will I

[upbeat egret]

Believe what? I am just realistic

S0 vita can not do shit

So trash 🗑

[spiral badge]

this talk is getting way too sweaty for beginner help btw lmao

[glad ice]

yeah too far from f2p beginner

[sweet flax]

the asa I know wouldnt say that, I cant believe the prof I thought you were, was a mere facade

[storm lantern]

s0+1 is good enough lurking beginners

[upbeat egret]

Sorry for being a fraud

[storm lantern]

asawhel just has too high standards

[sweet flax]

asawhel and no s2 vita is crazy

[storm lantern]

reformed whel still whel

[upbeat egret]

Whel where?

[sweet flax]

anyways off topic

[glad ice]

asa need to return to form

[upbeat egret]

I am washed

[jolly pulsar]

Just be me and have an account with S2 vita that you got in a ten pull

(Rerolling is miserable)

[lone crater]

how did u had the funds for +3 hofi

[lapis lichen]

hiya, i was wondering what divine key i should pick, this will be my first one

[lyric hornet]

From event box or realms of battle?

[lapis lichen]

realm of battle

[lyric hornet]

Any of them you'll collect them all eventually.

[spiral badge]

!faq what dkey

[small willow]

Which DKey should I claim first?

Hello, Captain!

Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.

In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).

[spiral badge]

but yeah it really doesn't matter much as horles said

[lapis lichen]

ok thanks so much

[upbeat egret]

Maybe lucksack?

[lone crater]

blocked

[rustic quest]

how can i get this currency? it shows no weapon to salvage on next page

[spiral badge]

check mirage farming in the pins. Basically you craft old weapons that used to be gacha only that can convert into that currency

very bottom of the one pin with the list of links

[rustic quest]

thanks, i will check

[spiral badge]

oh that particular weapon you're looking at is more effective to craft via foundry btw. Don't exchange for it

exchange for judah instead

[rustic quest]

so i keep refreshing till i get judah?

[serene crystal]

yes

[spiral badge]

when you have enough currency yeah

i think the menu and the amount of refreshes changes every week

so refreshing for it now when you won't afford it in time will just make you refresh for it again later

it's a long term project with small gains btw. It still matters but overall don't spend anything valuable rushing for it

[rustic quest]

oh i see i thought the 999 refresh will reset after 3 days

[serene crystal]

Yes, but the current selection will also change so there is no reason to refresh before you can actually buy.

[rustic quest]

oh i get it now thanks

[deep dew]

should i try to get the weapon from this banner if i already have the 3 stigs? or is she not worth the investment anymore

[lone crater]

u prob dont wanna backpull her weap

she is likely in bp sooner or later

its almost 2 year now?

[deep dew]

oh i have her

and the stigs, just not the weapon

[lone crater]

yea im saying u dont wanna backpull her weap atp

her waep might be in bp soon

[deep dew]

ohh

if im not wrong bfd banner is coming at the end of november right? should i get her since i have HLE

[lone crater]

but also main reason is: she was alr quite a mid valk, with very few weathers, and she old so those weathers arent rly coming, so there just not much value to her

i do think dragon coralie is ok, but it all depends on ur xtal count at that time imo

just hold on and ask then

cuz 2k isnt really gonna change anything

[deep dew]

eh my acc is kinda left behind on story and almost everything else so i think i can manage. its only level 41 too

but yeah ill see how much i have when she comes

[lone crater]

ye

[forest zodiac]

how good is LDS? gotten her weapon out of the return banner but idk if I should also get her rn or later

[upbeat egret]

Do u mean latern?

[forest zodiac]

yes

[upbeat egret]

She is not good anywore

[forest zodiac]

ok

[upbeat egret]

Don't waste your cristal on her

Why did u pull for the weapon tho?

[forest zodiac]

I only used the free pulls

[lone crater]

mad man pulled weap b4 valk

what free pulls, if those tickets were equipment supply cards, they shouldn;t be counted as free

[forest zodiac]

for return bonus

[upbeat egret]

Yeah but why do u pull a weapon if you don't have the valk?

[forest zodiac]

I can get valk and stigma any time .. but weapons are more expensive to grind for

[lone crater]

u cant get lantern anytime

and u wouldnt want to get her anyways thats the problem

[forest zodiac]

yeh but when hoyo let's us grind for her it won't be that crazy

[lone crater]

xd? in what bp or war treasury

[forest zodiac]

didn't knew that and I wasn't gonna waste free pulls lol

[forest zodiac]

ladder

[lone crater]

xd, war treasury man expect 4 years or something

[forest zodiac]

I can wait

when you are f2p you have to learn patience

[lone crater]

when u are f2p, theres a lot of better things to do

but anyways so i assume u just a casual then and just want lantern?

if so, then feel free to do w/e ig

[forest zodiac]

true but I also want to SSS all p1 valks including the ones that has almost 0 uses

[lone crater]

hmm kay, so is ur original quesiton asnwered or

[forest zodiac]

yes sry lol

[lone crater]

algs

[keen pilot]

lantern is so cool

i want to leave the game for 60 days despite starting 6 days ago jsut so i can et lantern from returnee

[forest zodiac]

LMAO

[forest zodiac]

you will miss out on event gems tho

[keen pilot]

but i will have lantern

[forest zodiac]

your choice. cya in 60days ig lol

[spiral badge]

if you want to appreciate lantern i encourage you to do so with her tutorial (where you get access to her trial and can play as long as you like)

competitively she's very rarely appreciated now

but if you still want her on your bridge or want to beyblade around with her in elysian realm or just want to have her, then consider maybe waiting for her to show up in a paid battle pass. Thelema happened this patch so lantern is prob next in line

[forest zodiac]

well dont you "need" world Star to use 100% of her buff ?

[spiral badge]

uhhh

so if a valk has multiple tags, they can have exclusive buffs for each of these tags

so they can offer different buffs to different types of teams

but also the idea of gaining 100% of a buff isn't what's important

hi3 is a game of speed and sometimes you have to forgo doing maximal damage to achieve that speed

as for world star in particular, lantern is honestly one of the worst valks for supporting it

the only times she's been best were etiher very early on in memorial arena strats, or relatively recently against fire weather kosma

i say one of the worst but if you have nothing else, she can prob still get a decent enough job done for non top abyss tiers of the game

[forest zodiac]

noted thx

[spiral badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAQsTZreEMA for the enthusiasts, here's a more advanced lantern guide

but overall she's not recommended to focus on investing for at this point meta wise

[wise socket]

How good is ely as wod support?

[spiral badge]

which ely?

[wise socket]

Well

[spiral badge]

keep in mind there are two for astral ring now and both do have shadow star tags

[wise socket]

Thew newest Ely

[spiral badge]

Hi Love Elf (HLE)

the main thing i would note about her is that like JDS, she can trigger SD enemy thresholds early. Both JDS and HLE on the same team can pop two in a single hp bar too

but in general things are still new and i haven't seen any beta damage comparisons yet. She's potent enough to keep in mind

[wise socket]

Alright, thanksies

[kind cliff]

Hello! Its very cope but should I use this to fight the SSS MA dudes...

Or do i sleep and take my loss

[haughty elbow]

no point taking a loss
u get points just for playing

but the 2nd team doesnt work

and hle stigs are

[sweet flax]

a little bit of this, a little bit of that

[tall flax]

Yay

[kind cliff]

HWAT

Do i just
Idk
Slap Sena Cora Helia for the SD boss
Then Vita HLE Dudu...

[lone crater]

do u know how p2 teams work

[kind cliff]

I thought i just need the
Thingies to match

[lone crater]

hle and dudu don't support roo

[kind cliff]

O

O:

Well i have lantern songque and eepy teri
Don't ask hiw eepy teri and lantern got their stigs, nobody has weapons

[lone crater]

ur first team shown was ok, but as pointed out, hle's stigmata aren't correct, and as for vita dps, vbm does support roo but not dudu

well u prob can do dudu vita songque

[kind cliff]

Songque's stig options are glutt fhm
That's it

[lone crater]

hmm rough but at least songque does support loa, so better than alternatives

[kind cliff]

Alright tysm! Have a great day!

I just added hle in the sena team cause i thought i could use her eventually since I'm pulling on her stuff

[spiral badge]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

give the last link here a read or watch

it's a common misconception that you only match ring types in part 2. While that does work, there's more options than that. The actuality is to match the leader's ring type to the supports' tags

[lime narwhal]

What are the best itens/expe to use stamina on?

[spiral badge]

!faq stamina

[small willow]

Stamina

I'm here to help, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Stamina spending priority list!

Please keep in mind that you should not be actively trying to rush EXP, most of your EXP comes from daily duties anyway, which is time-gated. Levelling is fast enough already!

[lime narwhal]

Tyyy

[ivory jolt]

I’m not a beginner but actually a religious player of hi3 but I quit for a bit when part 1.5 released right. So I’m very new to the whole part 2 meta

How bad is it for part 1 valks? Are they just unused now?

[wintry wharf]

part 1 valks are dead yes except some valks with new divine keys

[thorn ember]

Who's weapon should I upgrade first?
Also do I need to lvl up their stigmatas to the final level? Also why does Seele lock into dmg mode with the new dkey? I wanted to use her as a support, but she only does dmg, despite not being the leader

[serene crystal]

The lvl itself isn't that important but you want to upgrade them to the last stage. I would focus on HLE for now.
With her dkey HoRb is in dps mode in World star and support in Grail of infinitude.

[shadow gyro]

hle first since its her boss this cycle
horb dkey keeps her in short hair form when she's playing in a ws team while in her long hair form when she's in a goi team (as a support obviously), she's in short hair form in any other team
don't be mistaken she can still support in ws and goi teams, her dkey doesn't work with part 1 stuff though

[robust orbit]

Hello, for some reason I can't switch seele form with tap ult. Wanted to know what I'm doing wrong

[quick birch]

if you're using her with the dkey you can't switch forms with her ult anymore, her form is determined by the team she's in

in GoI teams she's in her "support form" (soul shaper) and in WS teams or other teams she's in her "DPS form" (Life binder)

she can still be a support in WS teams due to how p2 team building works she just won't be in her soul shaper form

[robust orbit]

Thanks you and what gol/ ws?

[gloomy ice]

Hi I'm new, I just got Vita as my first summon should i pull for her weapon too or get Elf Elysia

[quick birch]

they're ring types
Grail of Infinitude
World Star

we also have a glossary for abbreviations like this

!faq abbr

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

if you don't know how p2 team building works also check out the team building guide at the bottom of this faq

[quick birch]

i assume you got her from the free carnival pulls ? if so she's not the worst but also not the best pull for your account.
Vita can be a solid support without her weapon so try to go for HLE + HLE's weapon for now

[gloomy ice]

Kay ty

[ivory jolt]

So should I get hotr weapon from the bp or like hohe rank up stamps or smth

[wintry wharf]

the regular bp? u should pick divine keys or p2 valks i think

ask some prof here

[ivory jolt]

Idk who r profs here 😭

[wintry wharf]

ppl with the rainbow piss color like mango

[shell basin]

Advice is to get any divine key in reserve works you don’t have; an Atu, 7t, twins of even, Fenghuang down, abyss flower

You could consider HotR gear if you were like, only missing one piece but by the time you got it all most of her remaining niche uses would be gone and you would have better options

HoHE ranks would be fine if you had her dkey but it’s pointless if you don’t

[dry python]

Rainbow piss is definitely a name of all time

[fossil jungle]

I pulled them randomly are they any good? I dont really have much if anything.

[shell basin]

They’re not the best pull on carnival but they’ll be on your main team until you have more options and niche use after that

What Valkyries do you have right now ?

[thorn ember]

oooh, though now I need to know what are goi teams
Also, do I need to tune it?

[shell basin]

Yes, you should tune it

GoI teams are teams with GoI battlesuits as a leader (just HLE and PAWS rn) and then ideally two symbiosis supports. Horb is a symbiosis support so she can go on that sort of team

[thorn ember]

oooh thanks a lot!
Also paws is Helia, right?

[cold niche]

what teams should i run on ma?

[shell basin]

New helia yep. The s rank one

[shell basin]

What battlesuits do you have

[cold niche]

lemme screenshto real quick

[shell basin]

FDD VBM VBS on aponia, HLE RC JK on Paras, cope physical on kallen (probably PE/BKE + Senti + TA?)

tho a lot of those are underlevelled

so you might have to go say SI on kallen instead

over senti

especially if JK is stealing nebs from senti

[cold niche]

hmmmm ic ic

[cold niche]

i dont got baduma sdly 😭

[shell basin]

oops

sorry meant hle

[cold niche]

ahnok ok

[shell basin]

had a brain fart

[cold niche]

loll nw nw

[fossil jungle]

This is the rest of them

[shell basin]

In that case, until you pick up a new character from Gacha your best team for Byss with be Vita / Valkyrie Blastmetal (can get her + wep for free from part 2 story) and then some third cope support

Ideally Boltstorm

[lyric anvil]

For 3/3 leader

[shell basin]

Lightning damage buffs + stellar drain isn’t nothing either

If it was just for leader you’d use TA, afaik her buffs are bigger than Vita 3/3 buffs

[lyric anvil]

True

TA can't trigger Vita's leader

[shell basin]

No but her buffs are bigger than Vita’s 3/3

[fossil jungle]

Who would i want as my leader?

[shell basin]

Vita.

And then VBM and VBS as the other two slots

[fossil jungle]

Who is vbm? Im still getting used to different battle suit names.

[shell basin]

Valkyrie Blastmetal. She’s available from the part 2 chapter 1, with her weapon, and is the best free support for most part 2 teams

And especially for Vita

[lime narwhal]

When I join an armada is there any valk frag worth asking for or should I wait to ask any mat I need (I don't know if I need smt ATM ._.)

[shell basin]

Mostly I ask for invitation to mirage mats; if you haven't crafted Pledge or gotten judah yet, you want G1s for that

it's very efficient but very slow so you want to get started early

[lime narwhal]

No idea of what pledge or Judah is lmao, are they stigmatas? I'll take a look to know what it refers to and know Wich type of mirage G1 to ask for. Thanks a lot for the heads up

[shell basin]

Pledge of Sakura is a foundry divine key

crafting it allows you to unlock the lightning gene limit

then you craft 4 other bounty weapons (also takes G1 mats) and turn them into weapon resonance, so you can get oath of judah in exchange store for +10 global attack

#👶beginner-help message

[keen pilot]

i played apho 2 for so long but didnt unlock adventure tasks when do u unlock?

[lime narwhal]

I think I got it, I just lack the level I think. Ty Tesse

[shell basin]

uh iirc apho 2 level 20? you can take the daily challenges until you get there

[lyric anvil]

Level 20+ I believe for the moon ring

[keen pilot]

Aaaaaaa

thats so long

[lyric anvil]

I think it's moon ring lvl 20 anyways

[lusty island]

got ps sushang from the carnival, is it recommended to use prism to craft her stigmas ?

[spiral badge]

eventually possibly but prisms aren't plentiful if you're developing

so assess your prism count and make sure you have enough for higher priorities (new releases this patch that you picked up. Maybe also prepare a bit for the next patch's release if you're planning to pick that up too)

and even after all that make sure you have a strong use for PS too (fulfilling tags to a ring type if you're lacking, as well as hitcount/bleed utility for the ring types she can support)

[lusty island]

i dont have many valks/gears yet, plus no weapon for sushang just using gtx on her

[spiral badge]

how are your HLE stigs? are they maxed already?

[lusty island]

yes

[spiral badge]

do you understand how team building with astral ring works?

[lusty island]

yes the support valks just have to have the right tag for the leader valk

[spiral badge]

no weapon for sushang is fine. Don't chase after it with crystals. it's mainly for personal damage but she can still serve for support purposes

ok one last thing then. I think crafting sushang's 3pc is fine but don't upgrade it unless you have a high prism count

the main thing we want is the 3pc effect and that doesn't scale from upgrade/levels

the individual pieces do have important team effects though so eventually in the future you will look to upgrade them

but don't compromise future priorities as mentioned earlier over it

[lusty island]

ok so just use prism to craft but not like level it up fully to 50 with prism

[spiral badge]

eventually it'll be nice to do so for sushang

similar logic for vbm but her individual stigs are less notable so you may opt to only upgrade specific ones or leave them non upgraded forever (esp when she's farmable and expected to fall off teams more than others)

[lusty island]

also about the spending event is it worth to pick up thelema or i've seen some other people getting like elf fragments

[spiral badge]

there's a pin covering this

so check that out if you haven't yet

it's a bit more up to personal preference. Main thing to know is that thelema is highly dysfunctional without her signature weapon but spenders can opt to get that from bp

i don't recommend buying bp exclusively for it but if you're already buying it for other reasons i think it's fine to consider

going back to stigmatas for astral ring valks, do you understand the general trend of them and how the team buff is usually from the 3pc?

[lusty island]

oh i hadnt noticed that really

[spiral badge]

#💁gameplay-help message if so then you can glance here for a bunch i screenshotted yesterday. You can see the individual stig effects have team buffs from the 3pc condition

[lyric anvil]

I've gotten Thelema mostly for the er xtals and dorm level, though that's only a certain few who would get Thelema for that reason

[spiral badge]

ok well take a quick look. The main thing to see is that sushang triggers an effect called oyster from four conditions. Any of them will activate it

i listed them here #💁gameplay-help message

and that effect has various buffs and debuffs which is why we stressed going after the 3pc effect

numbers in blue in the individual stigs are usually what's improved as you max out a stig

so i guess T and M are what you'll look to max for support purposes

[lusty island]

ohh okay so its like using her as a support use her weapon skill and switch something like that

[spiral badge]

yeah

we don't really emphasize personal damage as much on a support (higher in the game they still matter)

[lyric anvil]

I believe Ult also in GoI also if you need to force the Leader qte

[spiral badge]

but since you got her for free this is how you make use of her the best you can without spending more inefficiently (don't spend crystals/cards on her weapon)

that's not related to what we're talking about but yes symbiosis support ult force resets the a grail leader's swap cd and qte

[lyric anvil]

Fair enough

[spiral badge]

i think it's a nice thing to mention but maybe make it clear it wasn't related so people keep things straight lol

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[ancient canopy]

is this set a good generic option to use on old characters on elysian realm?

[spiral badge]

not really. Event stig effects are usually quite abyssmal

the main generics are going to be expensive G4s in foundry but obviously that's not reasonable (and even when i say generic, not all valks benefit from them equally)

those g4s are outdated by today's standards too but newer stigs are now hyper specific

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

hm it's not covered here

[ancient canopy]

yeah those ones i got it already

[spiral badge]

so you know about scott and marco polo and such?

[ancient canopy]

i know they exist

thats the extent of my knowledge on it

[spiral badge]

sadly the game didn't make older stuff more reasonable to get but, in the context of elysian realm VBm with 3pc zhaojun can handle abstinence (2.25x)

um ok i'll cover them just in case then

[ancient canopy]

thank you i appreciate

[spiral badge]

physical

• Marco Polo TM and Attila B
  • The former two are from starter event. I don't really recommend crafting them if you don't have them
• if you need something budget for a bleed dps, keep in mind bleed does not crit. So it'll more be something like
  • ryunosuke t no wait bleed isn't melee or ranged. maybe theresa gluttony T or theresa origins T depending on who the valk is.
  • elizabeth M
  • attila b

Fire

• wang zhaojun 3pc

ice

• robert peary 3pc (starter manual beginner event. not recommended to actually craft)
• if you don't have it then scott 3pc is the lesser but cheaper alternative

lightning

• edison 3pc
• do not invest in darwin 3pc from starter event. That set is very impractical and has too many conditions to maximize.

anything i didn't specify from starter manual can be found in foundry basic stigmata section (use the filter menu)

but overall these are bottom of the barrel options. don't expect too much

[ancient canopy]

i have all of them already, but i was looking for something a bit higher than the bottom of the barrel

[spiral badge]

do you have theresa origins set too?

[ancient canopy]

like just the tip of toes on the bottom of the barrel

[spiral badge]

the investment cost to take it a step higher is just too costly for its worth generally speaking

but you can look at G1s and G2s at that point

[ancient canopy]

not these

[spiral badge]

it's honestly more of a support set from the 3pc, or the m piece is used for utility

but if the T piece is relevant to the valk (spams weapon alot) then you can consider it

the best bottom barrel stig is arguably theresa gluttony T btw. It's more for supports but a dps can use it too if you have nothing better

[lapis lichen]

Hiya, so I was told that I should level up RC. I was wondering if there are any other valks that I own that I should also level up

[spiral badge]

resources can be very limited early on so i advise you to only spend on a per need basis

first check the pins for the hle budget team guide for what to mainly focus on

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

but if you need more teams for memorial arena, look at the first link here

[lapis lichen]

Ok thanks 👍

[ancient canopy]

theres only theresa tb and in foundry or at least i didnt found the m

i think i am a bit after the early on

like i have dragon coralia, light helia and elise fully builded already

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/qf7V3tz.png

do you already have 3 of them?

[ancient canopy]

i started playing on helias patch

[spiral badge]

coralia -> Coralie
i don't know what light refers to when both helias are lightning
elise -> elysia but there are two astral ring elysias

!faq battlesuit

[small willow]

Characters vs Battlesuits

Ai-chan is confused, Captain...

Please be specific about which battlesuit you are referring to by using their battlesuit name - better yet, its abbreviated form! See the glossary here.

In Honkai Impact 3rd, several of the playable Valkyries have alternate forms, these are called "battlesuits".

• For example, Herrscher of Reason is a battlesuit of Bronya's, and so are Wolf's Dawn, Yamabuki Armor, and Silverwing: N-EX!

Many battlesuits that share the same Character (e.g. Fenghuang of Vicissitude and Herrscher of Sentience; Fu Hua) have very different roles and thus different applications in your teams as they have COMPLETELY different skills and gameplay.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

i keep forgetting how big this faq is sorry

ok so probably PAWS helia then

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

for future reference. also in pins

[ancient canopy]

oh i opened a random character page and open the foundry from there didnt realize it doesnt show all of them this way

[spiral badge]

oh yeah

access foundry from equipment or supply

[ancient canopy]

yes its paws, dragon and streamer elysia

[spiral badge]

streamer elysia we refer to as HLE (hi love elf)

but yeah ok

that's pretty solid for a starting roster. Keep focusing saving crystals to get new releases when you can guarantee valk and weapon if you're keen on being meta (higher crystal income)

[lapis lichen]

sadly i cant access the hle beginner team file its not available in my reigon apparently😭 ill try watching a yt vid about it instead

[spiral badge]

no vpn either?

i believe proton vpn is free and possibly good enough

anyway @ancient canopy it sounds like you have a full team already that you'll use and adjust leaders to handle various content. So the earlier question is mainly just more relevant in terms of a second team for memorial arena

you may also opt to separate the gacha valks into two teams too. Keep in mind VBm can at least provide partial benefits to most of them (full benefits to FDD leader)

[spiral badge]

if you need me to, i can attempt to copy and paste the whole album into discord directly. I'll do it by dm if you'll allow it

[lapis lichen]

ill try using proton vpn

[spiral badge]

it's not the only option out there but i have personally tried it if it's any assurance

[lapis lichen]

hipefully that will work but if not ill let you know

[spiral badge]

otherwise tunnelbear also works and you can more specify a region that way (proton doesn't let you choose)

but you only get a limited amount of it to use per month or some period of time

both you need to create an account

[ancient canopy]

i wanted more for elysian realm so i can lvl them to 15 without suffering as much as right now, but yeah memorial would be cool too havent think bout that yet

[spiral badge]

oh right

sorry i lost track of the original topic

do you know about the tactic of entering and quitting out of lite?

ok so to access lite in the first place, you need to have cleared ER deep sequence on a previous week. The highest difficulty you can lite on is the highest diff you cleared that previous week.

The idea of farming exp with lite is you start a run with lite, proceed to clear the first boss then quit, and you'll get 6? or so floors of exp and rewards from doing so

naturally the higher difficulty you clear the higher the rewards but older valks might find higher difficulties less reasonable. Just find the one that is suitable to you to repeat

and if you don't know what signets to pick, there's a guide in the pins

feel free to still post and ask whatever that's on your mind. I kinda want to get this out in case any discussion would steer me away from the opportunity of explaining it

[ancient canopy]

i have lite already

[analog root]

is PS or Badum if my only DPS is HLE?

[ancient canopy]

have cleared on the highest

[spiral badge]

can you elaborate? I'm not fully sure what you're asking

are you asking what to roll in carnival?

[analog root]

yea

[spiral badge]

if so then i cover that highly in detail in the pins

[ancient canopy]

oh thats good to know!!!! thank you very much it makes it much easier

[spiral badge]

i think you can quit as soon as the floor saved message pops up after killing the boss

technically advancing a floor or two (shop floor lol) increases the rewards but as far as maxing a valk/maxing ER shop currency for the week goes, it usually isn't significant (doesn't cut down a lite you have to do)

[cold niche]

What’s this?

And can you still get it?

[odd plume]

HoS's new dkey, just like horb's currently
not available now

[cold niche]

Aww ic tyy

Also for reserve works should I save up for a Valk or should I be getting weapons?

[spiral badge]

!faq crystallum

[small willow]

Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain!

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

• Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
• Knight BP: 18 per patch
• Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Feel free to ask us for account specific advice - especially if you buy BP!

[spiral badge]

if you want to play with that HoS weapon (informally called brick. Although don't confuse this with the gamer slang of bricking (ruining) an account)

you can try out a trial of it in HoS' tutorials. Find tutorials via attack > events tab > tactics class

[viral granite]

Is that build okay to do the x2.25 score in the er? 😭

[glad ice]

yes

[viral granite]

Tysm but i think i need to watch a tuto for thelema cuz i still cant pass it-

[glad ice]

clone/non-SO build is a bit weaker than SO build

[winged veldt]

Is it better to use Vbm instead of Fdd for ER? No guide for Fdd this for 8.5 phase 1

[glad ice]

the ER weather is jack-of-all-trade u can use fdd alright. just pick the 15load that fits your fdd build

fdd is Decimation/Deliverance

[winged veldt]

thank you

[glad ice]

the last one is must pick btw

breach too good to pass

[slim blaze]

Oh wow. Thats a lot of 15 cost

So this er weather is just for whoever now?

[glad ice]

yeah it works for everyone

all basic signets also auto +2

[simple bobcat]

What was/is/would be bke's best stig set before she became obselete

[slim blaze]

Dante tm ely b probably

[simple bobcat]

Can she work with pericles at all or prolly nah

[lyric anvil]

Senti's DKey set?

[slim blaze]

I mean its not optimal

Afaik she has no burst mode

And u spend 100 sp on ult

[glad ice]

bke has burst mode

[simple bobcat]

Oh ewwww her ult isnt a burst mode?

[glad ice]

look for the super saiyan tag

[simple bobcat]

Gross

[lyric anvil]

Senti spends a bit more than BKE for Ult

[glad ice]

sp spent 60/120 yes

so bke only get 60 threshold buff

[simple bobcat]

Whatevs itll stay like this for now i already cleared her stress test

[slim blaze]

Oh nvm bke has burst mode kek

[glad ice]

pericles is fine on bke

the set has very high atk stat too

[slim blaze]

Its not optimal but its ok

[simple bobcat]

Okay im. Glad im not as stupid as i thought

[slim blaze]

Why yes. Thank you

125 sp i know

[lyric anvil]

Senti gets full buff while BKE gets some at least

[glad ice]

i thought pericles should have some kind of herrscher mode buff but it doesnt

[lyric anvil]

Thought so too since it's for Senti and SSwords has Herrscher Mode buff I believe

[glad ice]

the last 3set buff that +20 crt rate is for ER btw

[lyric anvil]

Interesting

[glad ice]

well, technically speaking there are also other situations where u go solo

[lyric anvil]

Guessing HoRb support helps with crit rate?

[glad ice]

horb has skill that give u crit rate up to 100% then the excess rate change to crtdmg

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[slim blaze]

Login event pls come faster

[odd plume]

free card will be on nov 3 btw
nov 2 is the valk box

[slim blaze]

Mgmm

[lyric anvil]

Nooo

[shadow tendon]

so im getting back into playing story chapters, but i realized at some point I mustve played a bit of p2. do i have no other choice but to make a new account to replay the earlier chapters?

[wet root]

Is it worth to spend more if get hle 4/4? which banner should I try? spending counts at 23600 crystals, including dorm and free carnival if counts

[tall flax]

any team setup?this all i have

[odd plume]

better just focus on 2 teams for 2 SSS bosses, SS boss is whatever

HLE team for paros
PS team for aponia
fill other slot as you see fit

killing SSS boss isn't hard

[ruby crown]

is it worth getting any fragments from the asterite shops with the Valkyries i have

i also have these so idk if that changes anything

[lone crater]

you prob should have asked before spending token

reality is all the ones in there are also farmable

makes no difference really to who you choose

some valks are in stress test /er, so can consider those

[ruby crown]

O ok

[faint wasp]

I accidentally got peregrine on the free 10 pull on carnival, can be she of use to me on a beginner ish acc? I only have dragon Coralie and Ely as 5 stars with rings

also considering I don't have enough xtals to get her weapon unless I put my luck into it (uhhh it's a bad idea)

[storm lantern]

yes and don't get her weapon

[faint wasp]

so, still useful without sig?

is the difference significant between actually having it

[storm lantern]

depends on what you consider significant

for utility it doesn't really matter outside of sss lantern, for buffs it's a decent amount but idk the actual damage difference

[faint wasp]

oki that doesn't sound convincing to me, I'm not pulling thanks

BTW HOW DID U GET ELYSIA ROLE WHAT

[shell basin]

Without her weapon she can’t dps but she’s still way better than any free support

Especially for GoI battlesuits

[storm lantern]

#homu-playground

[shell basin]

I think she has a 16/18% genetic phys/ele buff on the weapon and then another bigger TDM one for in stellar outburst

[faint wasp]

can I not get it anymore

[shell basin]

Which is a lot but not everything

[storm lantern]

uh i think it was supposed to be around for a week?

[shell basin]

You need to link your account and accumulate enough check-ins, look at the pins

[faint wasp]

I still haven't gotten Ely weapon cuz I just saved my xtals incase I made the decision to, do I pull for Ely weapon nd then if I have enough I could use extra xtals on horb dkey if it's still around?

and just not pull for ps weap entirely

[storm lantern]

horb not really useful if u dont have ws supports

[shell basin]

And also you would need to have horb to get any use

[storm lantern]

u could gamble on another new valk having domain resonance but i think that's suspicious

[faint wasp]

who are those ws supports

[shell basin]

Badum, Vita, Sena, Thelema…

[storm lantern]

vita hofi hle maybe badum are the good ones

[faint wasp]

errh...

[shell basin]

Not worth pulling for is the tldr

Horb dkey is niche even if you have Horb and the account to support it

[storm lantern]

i remember something about badum having fire specific buffs so she might actually be really mid for horb

unless they keep doing sd mobs on her weathers

[faint wasp]

okiii ig I just save after getting Ely weapon and wait for new stuff?

[shell basin]

Yeah

You can run HLE PS VBM in abyss

[storm lantern]

they have fdd

[shell basin]

Oh oops

Even better than, skip Blastmetal

That’s actually a real team then

[faint wasp]

WAIT PS ACTUALLY REPLACES BLASTMETAL

[shell basin]

For HLE? Yes

For FDD? No

[faint wasp]

hmmm I see

[shell basin]

HLE wants symbiosis supports, and PS is symbiosis. FDD wants Paws or ROO, and VBM is ROO

[faint wasp]

what weapons can PS use if no sig

[shell basin]

Just a stats stick at that point. Grips of Tai Xuan is a pretty decent one because you’ll want to get it to level 50 anyway and it doesn’t take Honkai shards

Could also do Nebs if you do have spare Honkai shards since that one’s pretty useful as cope weapons go

Uh, Nebs is Nebulous Duality

[faint wasp]

hmmm if i have grips and nebs but saving honkai shards for ely weap (she uses it right?), so ill be using grips for now. but if i ever have extra shards w me after maxing ely weap should i level up nebs and change to that or is it not worth?

[lone crater]

no

[shell basin]

Nebs will see cope use in MA on people like Senti or JK. It’s not worth investing in unless you have a ton of Honkai shards spare

Since you’ll also need to save them for the next release

It’s just the least bad alternative

[faint wasp]

is prom still used in ma?

[shell basin]

Until you have better options yeah

[viral axle]

nebs is rekt

[lone crater]

she also prob the option for most ppl this cycle

cuz kallen

and then in doom whenever she runs

otherwise p2 has covered all other ss bosses atp

[faint wasp]

i see, thanks for the input everyone

[viral axle]

Might be better off with just avo + grips

[faint wasp]

avo?

[lone crater]

g2 or g1 stigamata u can craft

[faint wasp]

avougadro?

[lone crater]

yea

if you do bother with ma, then getting avo tm is pretty nice

you will prob use it a lot

but also if you do bother with ma, getting ta, sns, si to sss would be good yea, but its quite an investment of asterites, so just depends on ur priority

[amber finch]

yo dumbos

got the thingy, do i get her weap or syn2 dkeys (to anyone who's trying to help me without knowing me, uh just ignore me)

[odd plume]

[faint wasp]

ur sunk cost fallacy guy the one who plays the game solely bc they already spent too much time and effort into it

[amber finch]

me too, fomo versus actually having a valk, this is hard

[amber finch]

yeah

cant believe you rmb me

spent too much time into the game and being feed like a king in said game*
new update to the title

[lyric anvil]

Cheswhel

[amber finch]

me poor f2p

[faint wasp]

those kind of things stick to me

[amber finch]

asu is megawheel

[amber finch]

[faint wasp]

atleast Ely peak

[amber finch]

oh shit i only have 20k nccs and no locks

badum'll live with shit affixes ig

[faint wasp]

what teams is dkey Hohe ever used?

[amber finch]

currently its hohe thel hle

before hle its sena/vita

[faint wasp]

do they rerun dkeys like hers? ehe.

[amber finch]

yes because it's still new and technically still "relevant" even tho its mid

[faint wasp]

what makes it mid

[amber finch]

its existence

[shadow gyro]

hle replaces breach?

[amber finch]

also im not joking about the mid part, hohe with dkey is ofc better than old hohe but holy shit is she still sad in almost everything support and dps wise

[amber finch]

yes surprisingly i keep on seeing hle thel refs on yt unless im being baited

[lyric anvil]

HLE better than HoHe

[shadow gyro]

fails to compare to how impactful it is for p2 stuff compared to hofi
but i don't think its too bad

[viral axle]

Pretty sure she still lost to lantern on kasumi lmao

[faint wasp]

but- Ely...

[amber finch]

oh stea i got badum

i forgor to pong you, too many peps to pong

[shadow gyro]

nicee

[viral axle]

It's better though, pre dlc H2O lost to lantern on kalpas

[amber finch]

stopping my syn2 dkeys shennanigans for badum weap now

[shadow gyro]

congrats but also im pissed this patch is too dry for me

[amber finch]

wait shit do i get badum skin for the fomo

i have 2 crystals

[shadow gyro]

whel hope u get wp, can u afford it tho

[shadow gyro]

[amber finch]

thinking of wheling yeah, waiting for this month's uni funds

[amber finch]

30 pulls from login + 900d milestone

and the carnival packs are much cheaper than i expected

so 20 pulls from that

only problem is 9.6k xtals for skin

[shadow gyro]

30??? aint the pulls were getting is 15 only?
unless you mean login + milestone = 30

[amber finch]

fucking diabolical lmfao

[amber finch]

15 from login + 15 from 900d yes

[rustic walrus]

badum rank up (could do ps too) or new sparkle

[shadow gyro]

what ranks are they all
especially vita

cuz s2 vita is nice

[rustic walrus]

everyone s0 + 1 (except no song weap) (ss0 soon ss1 hohe and s2 horb s2 thel)

[shadow gyro]

loll i remember hofi old wp on badum being the best cope

[viral axle]

S2 ps good for MA

[rustic walrus]

but isn’t vita also dead for new ring so i’m not sure

[shadow gyro]

u can still use her for ps, badum, horb, thel, ig que and hoh
and any rare vita boss
since its more breach + tf

[amber finch]

wtf does sss chen give more intensity regen or smt

why am i missing 5 whole ari

[shadow gyro]

i would suggest s2 vita otherwise there's a detailed guide in pins

[rustic walrus]

yeah i read it but still not too sure

[shadow gyro]

how much do you care about ma then?

[rustic walrus]

i could try get sparkle for 620 crys but then idk whether to invest in her weapon (probably not worth) but also ma

[rustic walrus]

a little bit but not too much 2%

[shadow gyro]

not worth getting the wp unless you have so much surplus
even with that i would be iffy about it
can't be helped that she's meh without it tho

[viral axle]

If you don't have spark go for spark

[rustic walrus]

for er crys?

[viral axle]

Spark is pretty useful by herself

[shadow gyro]

hmm you should be fine with what you have already
can either pick spork for er crys or if you wanna improve your team then i feel like s2 vita is more flexible

[viral axle]

Although if you don't plan on getting gear then ehhh

[rustic walrus]

i have enough surplus to get + 8.6 valk but investing crystals for 7.9 valk weapon feels so bad

[thick bolt]

If you care about MA usecases S2 vita opens up a lot more than the other two, especially notable on SSS Litost with FDD

Outside of MA both badum and PS are mainly personal dmg though PS ranks have a better balance especially when including the tf for MA. Badum performs fine even without the S2 tf

Spark atp is just ER crystals so if you're aiming for a new valk or the other choices aren't appealing just go for her.

tldr depends on what you value more, all this assumes you even get the valk in the free pulls

[rustic walrus]

all this overthinking just to get two a ranks

[shadow gyro]

lmao

[rustic walrus]

wishing i tried for vita earlier then but thanks

[deep dew]

should I get the one in the middle for HoS if I dont have any of her gear? I only have her from the free valk chest so

[shell basin]

You’ll get them all

[storm lantern]

yeah you can get them in any order

[deep dew]

oh tyty, any recommendations on budget stigs?

[shell basin]

That said yeah get grips of Tai Xuan first, ice gene limit is what you want for HLE

Senti as a DPS can run Marco Polo TM Attila B for very budget but don’t expect too much from her with cope stigs + cope wep + no ranks

[deep dew]

cant she work as a support? i heard someone said she could be one

[viral axle]

claymore + gun is 10 attack, although that's peanuts

[shell basin]

She can be a P1 phys support tho again pretty cope without gear

For that you’d give her Nebs and Ogier B

[deep dew]

ah tyy

[sullen gyro]

when will the free HoHe and HoT become available?

[amber finch]

nov 2

[fading estuary]

Hello i want to ask. How to get snowflake for outfit crate? Is it only can be get by trade my crystal for it?

[amber finch]

yep, gotta spend crystals for it

9.6k crystals is hard pity, and always expect yourself to hard pity the skin

[silver patio]

Hey even if its not a boss, you still do the rotation right?

[amber finch]

wdym? like for the normal stages in abyss?

yeah just do the general rotations

[silver patio]

Yes likethe small ppl

[amber finch]

you only really do optimized and make changes to the rot on bosses

[rotund roost]

Is it better to use singles now? I'm still hoping for the 3 Elysias for my 10 pull

[viral axle]

there's zero difference luckwise between using 10pulls and 1 pulls 10 times

you do singles if you don't want to waste pulls into a banner when there's uses for crystal elsewhere

[rotund roost]

What team should I use for the 1st and 2nd?

[silver patio]

Hey, do points matter in every stage in superstring dimension? Or it only matters in the boss part?

[viral axle]

you can't get to boss stage without 6k in the first two

otherwise it's for competition purposes only

[silver patio]

But does it matter in ranking

[viral axle]

yes, it absolutely does

[silver patio]

Ah this is hard compared to boss stages

[viral axle]

i've lost rank due to forgetting to do side stage

[amber finch]

you being at 21000 vs the entire bracket at 21200 for t10

[silver patio]

?

[amber finch]

diff between clearing stages and not clearing

[lone crater]

they look at ur total score

not just boss score

[viral axle]

the ganesha sidestage tripped up many people in the past kek

[lone crater]

real

[amber finch]

ignite parv, fuck that shit

actually was it ignite or fire i forgor

that one stage where hoyo just spams whenever they're bore

[viral axle]

it's not parv, it's ganesha lol...

people always get it confused

[amber finch]

the stupid fat pig

[viral axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgpZjHzU33I

[amber finch]

there, that one

[lyric anvil]

Parv is the pig that is PSY while Ganesha isn't for some reason

[viral axle]

balance purposes

[lone crater]

do u just have absolutely everything recorded

[viral axle]

no, i just have that one recorded because pig

[lone crater]

thats fair

[lyric anvil]

Making Ganesha typeless for balance purposes

[viral axle]

pretty sure i don't actually have any abyss bosses recorded LMAO

[silver patio]

Ok so on this boss when it reaches life 2, it becomes untargettable and does some long thingy to do before it can be attacked again. Do i do my rotation again? Use my SO? Or attk the sword thingy it throws with my hle without doing anything else, no switching no SO

[amber finch]

time for weapless badumer

[celest sphinx]

I just got fws so should I get the weapon too? it was early

[viral axle]

in this game weapon is like 50% of a valk's strength

if not more.

[celest sphinx]

is there some cases where u dont need it? I got told to not get vita's weapon so I didn't (the vita from the carnival)

[lone crater]

thats out of the consideration u prob cant form her dps team immediately with the weap, she kind of old now, and u prob have better things to invest in

and vita works ok for all ur purposes as a support

[viral axle]

yah, in general though i don't even attempt to pull valk unless i have the weapon

[lone crater]

yea carnival w/e tho

[amber finch]

ok just did the boss, during transition, defeat the spear and then collect the fragments and then have a spear fight with this boss (spam basic)

[viral axle]

carnival's use it or lose it so lol

[lone crater]

yea

[lone crater]

just realised how uselss carnivals r to u, u just max everything on release no?

surely 6s+9 is good enough for t1 and u dont need the 9s?

[viral axle]

on main yeah, smurf got an early PS s2 which was super nice

[silver patio]

Ty

[lone crater]

is 6s+9 good enough or theres still some sweats

[viral axle]

there are some hard locked 12s rots for MA, abyss...kek, depends on who's playing

[lone crater]

that's true

[viral axle]

part of how i can T1 masters and exalted MA at the same time on NA is having the rank advantage

since i have to reset race for masters usually

[lone crater]

too hardcore

[viral axle]

only 3s spark and dragon felt like wastes at times since the cap scores use 2s/s2

zombieteri was a waste but she's doing good work in ER so whatever

[lone crater]

what does 3s dragon even give

[viral axle]

damage

so for dragon abyss it still matters

[lone crater]

fair

[viral axle]

she also jumpsecs like a little dog

cost me at least two masters r1's LMAO

[lone crater]

goi do be like that

[silver patio]

Oh gosh i absolutely suck

[lone crater]

where is her tf on

[viral axle]

she doesn't need it

[lone crater]

oh

[viral axle]

just 4 as wa into ult will kill

you start before the buzzer and it should finish at 0s

there's a tf on wa

let me see if i have it recorded

[lone crater]

i see

[silver patio]

I think my max is 31778

[lone crater]

21778 or 31778

[silver patio]

2

[lone crater]

theres prob ref later u watch on youtube or post it here

[silver patio]

?

[lone crater]

as in, if you want help on it, you can either watch homework/reference on youtube and see what others has done, or you post what you did here and we give it a look

[viral axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baqN7yfaEIE

[lone crater]

lol

i see

[viral axle]

it works on a surpring amount of bosses, but it also jumpsecs hard

with pretty much no rhyme or reason, so gamble

[lone crater]

does it jump sec on tankier mobs and after ult or like before ult

[viral axle]

it actually can jumsec on this one LMAO

[lone crater]

oh

xd

[viral axle]

there's no rhyme or reason, sometimes maybe you started late, sometimes it just doesn't like you

[lone crater]

that is weirdge

[rotund roost]

Does this give any crystals like in the past or no more?

Should I always buy these out? the eggs

[lone crater]

game surveys during towoards the end of the patch does give xtals but no idea about survey for returnees

[lone crater]

considering that u could get duplicate as in valks u alr maxed out, if u were to buy it for dorm

maybe not

but i never did the exact math for it

so perhaps its ok

[shell basin]

I wouldn't buy dorm eggs

but thats because I constantly need asterite lmao

[rotund roost]

What was the cost for the Crystallum, Dorm Card, and Torus?

I forgot

[shell basin]

1600 crystallum

1000 dorm

torus should be 100

[rotund roost]

Total or per?

[lyric anvil]

1600 per

[shell basin]

per

same with dorm cards

[rotund roost]

If I spend these would they permanently be gone? Like, no memento since they were the mementos themselves? I'm in need of stamina since the other supplies are gone

[lone crater]

u are correct, they would be perma gone

u just have to wait for stamina to regen ig

[rotund roost]

Is there any other way to get stamina other than waiting? Does any shop sell stamina refills that look like chug chugs

[lone crater]

not that i know, other ways of getting stamina is just using crystals

what you need it for

[rotund roost]

I'm finishing my chronicles

is this the tutorial they were saying in Misc for one time crystal sources?

[viral axle]

the ribbons give 15 each iirc

or was it 5

[rotund roost]

5 each

[tiny galleon]

Guys who do i team up with elysia

[spare fjord]

Hi, I'm a newbie and just got Ely (Hi Love Elf S2). Now there’s a Celebration banner — should I pull for Ba Dum right away, or should I go for someone who pairs well with Ely instead?

[shell basin]

HLE VBM RC

[shell basin]

Prioritize getting Ely's weapon if you haven't already

thats much more important for her than S2

if you have that you can spend your free pulls for either Badum or Peregrine Sword, both support ely very well

[tiny galleon]

Uhm

[shell basin]

I wouldn't go past the free pulls unless you have a lot of crystals spare tho because if you fail to get a celebration banner you lose all pity

[shell basin]

Hi love elf, valkyrie blastmetal, reverist calico

there's a glossary in pins

[tiny galleon]

Oh okay thank you

Uhm so which stigma should i use on reverist calico

[shell basin]

If you have VBM sigs, put those on her and Rouald amusen on RC

if you don't have VBM sigs, Roauld on VBM and Theresa Gluttony T FHM MB on RC

[tiny galleon]

Oh i dont have those

[shell basin]

then yeah rouald on vbm and gluttony T FHM MB on rc

[tiny galleon]

Oh okay

[shell basin]

there's a rotation for the team in the pins, second link

should help with figuring out how to keep all the buffs up

[tiny galleon]

Oh okay

Wait is it this theresa?

[shell basin]

yeah theresa gluttony t

[tiny galleon]

Oh okay

[shell basin]

you can use ogier T if you dont have it tho

but it's pretty cheap to craft

[tiny galleon]

Oh okay thx

[shell basin]

np

[spare fjord]

Thank u so much 🥰

[rotund roost]

Does the person who will use my code need to do this? before it activates

oh yeah

[gloomy acorn]

how many xtals is 1 lucky snowflake for outfit supply

oh wait I can't read it's in desc

[frozen crypt]

xd

!faq pyramid

[small willow]

Gacha Outfits

Be careful, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.

Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits

• DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
  • You need 9600 or 7680 if there is a discount.
• No competitive benefit.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sullen gyro]

anyone know when elysia's new dk will rerun?

[frozen crypt]

Nope, all you can do is keep checking #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for supply schedules

it is due a rerun actually

I'd expect a rerun within 2 patches personally but no guarantees

[viscid thistle]

For a new HI3 player, when one reaches level 30, where would be the best to start the story?

[storm lantern]

you should do p2 story up until you get the vbm character card and her weapon, beyond that you can finish up to ch3 without p1 spoilers from my understanding but 3ex onwards ideally you would do after p1 and p1.5

if you dont care about story there are some limited time rewards for doing certain chapters this patch but they're not very big

[viscid thistle]

Aight ty

[lucid snow]

is there an updated guide for what to buy with asterites? pinned one is already 2 years old and I am not sure if those valks are still relevant

[daring oak]

should I not do the tune if I am using it on HoRB/wanting to pri-arm it

[amber finch]

2 years old because the message was sent 2 years ago, it’s still regularly updated

[amber finch]

you need to tune it to pri arm it

ignore the warning

[lucid snow]

Oh I see, thanks!

[daring oak]

Ohh okay okay thank you

[viral axle]

Once upon a time tuning before upgrading denied you some entries in the encyclopedia

Doesn't happen anymore

[amber finch]

shuddup old man

let the zommers chat

[rapid socket]

What would y’all take from this?

[shell basin]

I would probably pick Purana, new players will be using RC to support HLE in abyss unless they get lucky in carnival

Nocturnal stealth is nice but you can cope with Nebs and you’ll only ever use Key if Ego to flex or in Memorial Arena (tho admittedly it might be quite helpful in arena)

If you got PS or Badum from carnival tho it’s less obvious

[rapid socket]

Was planning to get badum on reset so sounds like that doesn’t help the choice lol

[rapid socket]

Think it’s worth doing this anyway just to have for future?

[shell basin]

I think probably yes still because Purana has more long term MA uses than HoHE

But overall if you get lucky in your 20 free pulls

Then it’s less important since you won’t use any of them for abyss

If you don’t have Badum then Purana is obvious, if you do then it’s just probably right

[rotund roost]

Senseis get crystals?

I thought they only get the currency stuff

[shell basin]

They get crystals from achievements

Having the cadet graduate achievement gives crystals

Otherwise no they only get currency

[rotund roost]

They get 1760 worth from achievements?

I can never get someone to be my cadet 😔 Whenever they apply when I'm online they find someone else

[viral axle]

Pretty sure it's the cadet that gets 1760

[shell basin]

No it’s like 200 if you have 5 cadets or smth

[wintry wharf]

tf why these missions dun counts for the invite code mission of 10k bp points

[odd plume]

it is how it is

[wintry wharf]

with these it was just 2 days and done

[odd plume]

even faster if they count buying bp level, can be done in 2 hours

[wintry wharf]

right

[forest marlin]

why is my equipment gacha luck sooo bad i am at like single digits and still havent gotten it

[sweet flax]

that's not bad luck

thats the norm

[lyric anvil]

Yes

[forest marlin]

damn dude i cant find sakura in this storylineee

does anyone know the location

[sweet flax]

go to the open world tab attack > start > open world

[forest marlin]

thanks du

wait r the paladin passes monthly or what ?

yo where r u guys getting peregrine sword from

[frozen crypt]

carnival supply, which I am assuming just swapped over to fws and sparkle for the next few days

she will return on mon/tue I forgot which day

[sweet flax]

[crystal heart]

Hello

[sweet flax]

hello

[crystal heart]

I heard we are getting a selector on sunday where you can claim elysia herrscher of human ego

But I’m brand new to the game. I started yesterday. Think I’m rank 18

[sweet flax]

there shouldnt be a level requirement for it

[deep dew]

damn should I get her or BFD at the end of nov? for HLE support

[sweet flax]

you dont wanna spend crystals on carnival, and it depends on how many crystals you already have to consider pulling for fdd when she reruns

[sullen gyro]

hi does soft pity exist in this game?

[molten ore]

I'm only lv 36, i clicked smth and now i cant return to part 1 main quest.. how? :c

[deep dew]

ah the account im getting her on is low level so i can try to speedrun the game's content to get fdd. but is it just a bad decision in general to pull carnival?

[crystal heart]

I pulled Elysia love elf and her weapon. What’s her meta against the beginning characters? I know this game came out like 8 years ago lol

[sweet flax]

no soft pity exists in the hoyo games (that is confirmed by hoyo themselves)
there is a suggested one at 74-76 pity but that is based on collected data that can be mistaken for cumalitive pity

[sweet flax]

on the left of that screen, the moon's origin and finality is part 1

[sweet flax]

carnival pity doesnt carry over, so any crystals that doesnt yield in the s rank is crystals lost to sunk cost

and the valks themselves arent worth spending crystals on, so if you get them for free, nice, if not, not a big deal

[molten ore]

Thankss you saved me

[deep dew]

awh i see, tyty

[sweet flax]

there is a pin that covers the beginner rotations and team that you would expect to use for hle

[crystal heart]

So it’s not recommended we pull on the normal supply banner only event banner right? Since those characters are old and not meta

[inner basalt]

Who to use for hle and will it preform OK?

[sweet flax]

there is a pulling guide in pins that covers this, but only hle is worth spending crystals on right now if you can get her and her weapon
anything else is not worth spending crystals on (excluding horb dkey which is a very account dependant pull)

[sweet flax]

check the beginner hle set up we have in pins

[quick birch]

you can actually replace RC with vita

[sweet flax]

actually does your hohe have her dkey

[inner basalt]

No sadly

[sweet flax]

then ye, preferably stick to vbm + vita

[frozen crypt]

Ayo wtf return of astrixx

The ely bait is working so well

Damn you hoyo

[inner basalt]

LYO

[frozen crypt]

Hellooo

[inner basalt]

Hello, and yes indeed I fell for the Ely bait

[frozen crypt]

Stop she's gonna get a 4th battlesuit

[inner basalt]

I got her randomly in the free ten so I have to commit to getting her wep and team too ig

[frozen crypt]

[inner basalt]

[frozen crypt]

Damn

[inner basalt]

Might have to get Hohe dkey too but idk when that will return

[crystal heart]

What’s hle stand for?

[glad ice]

hi love elf

[sweet flax]

there's a glossary in pins btw

[crystal heart]

Okay thank you so much. Sorry for all the questions. It was very overwhelming when I started

[sweet flax]

that's what the channel exists for dont apologize for using it properly

[round pebble]

what are the priorities in the lucky streak shop?

[abstract sequoia]

see the 3rd pin

[round pebble]

thanks

[tacit ravine]

can I use MPS somehow with my p2 chars? (20 pulls away from seele's weapon), can get MPS's weapon from bp

[ancient needle]

Well, you have Thele Vita HLE for Thele DPS, and that's about it

You also can use her as a support for HoRb, but that only makes sense in MA (cuz you have a better comp for Abyss)

[ancient needle]

This is very close to BiS for Thele DPS

Assuming your Vita is S0

[tacit ravine]

can I do HLE, FDD, VB for one MA team and Thele Horb Vita for other team?

[ancient needle]

HoRb can't support Thele

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ancient needle]

Check the last link for teambuilding

[tacit ravine]

thank you

[ancient needle]

You can do, for example, HoRb HLE Thele and FDD Vita VBm

[tacit ravine]

ohh, got it now, thanks a lot

[keen pilot]

is there a strat on this boss with elysia ?

[glad ice]

u can search for its ref

[frozen crypt]

you'll need to specify SS, gl

[wise scroll]

Hi, I clicked something and I got this Kiana, is she good?

[ancient needle]

Well, it's good that you got her (I assume using free pulls), but don't try to get her weapon

She'll be very nice as a support for Hi Love Elf

[ancient needle]

If you have 1 more free 10x left you can wait a couple of days to try to get Peregrine Sword with them

[wise scroll]

Ty! What's peregrine sword?

[ancient needle]

It's another valk

She'll be in Carnival Supply after a couple of days

[ancient needle]

I assume you're a new player?

[wise scroll]

Yes I started 1 hour ago lol

[lapis lichen]

hiya, i was just wondering if VBm is worth building

[wise scroll]

Do i need hi love elf weapon and artifacts?

[shadow gyro]

yes, she's very good for early game and useful for late game
make sure you get her hammer from the beginning of p2

[ancient needle]

Yes, but stop pulling as soon as you get the weapon

[ancient needle]

Because stigmata are craftable

• you have a box to pick one of them

[wise scroll]

Tysm!

[shadow gyro]

one small info if i may, ik you're new so its not a biggie but we say stigmatas here, not artifacts
gl btw!

[lapis lichen]

okie dokie thanks ill level her up then. shes good with hle right?

[shadow gyro]

for early game she's your best option
for late game not really but she's an okay filler assuming you don't have the right teammates

[lapis lichen]

ok thats perfect then ill use hle, vbm and rc as my team for now

thanks so much for the help

[crystal heart]

Got a question, is this where you can claim elysia herrscher of human ego?

[shadow gyro]

no, its a different log in
this one is her and horb's stigmata boxes one

[crystal heart]

Which log in is it? I don’t see it

[shadow gyro]

lemme check rq

[crystal heart]

Or will I only see it on Sunday?

[shadow gyro]

i do know that you can get the box itself on nov 2
so rn it should just be displayed

[serene crystal]

#👶beginner-help message

[shadow gyro]

so event tab then

[crystal heart]

That’s not in my event tab

[sweet flax]

is this a new account?

[crystal heart]

Yes

[sweet flax]

most events are locked behind a level requiremt (around lvl 30-50 iirc which is achievable in a day or two)

ill double check the level requirement if it was mentioned ingame

[crystal heart]

Damn so I have until Sunday to get to level 50 and if I don’t, I’ll miss out on the reward?

[shadow gyro]

i don't see the lvl req ingame hmm