👶beginner-help

[arctic idol]

I used them on the banner with the girl that has like a catalyst in her hand I didn't get nun tho

[silver patio]

Depends on team

[fallen shale]

PAWS > FDD > HLE

[silver patio]

Ah then after you get hle’s weapon save for new character next patch. Please dont pull anymore

[arctic idol]

I don't have her yet tho didn't get her and why shouldn't I pull😿

[daring oak]

the equipment supply carries over to next banners right?

[silver patio]

Someone do the faq for backpulling

[quick birch]

WA -> ult, you can also cast WA as the enemies spawn and then ult to activate HLE buffs

[fallen shale]

do I fully charge the ult or just tap

[quick birch]

in theory if you don't need her stellar drain qte is also enough since it activates her buffs iirc

[quick birch]

since it's after WA you can just fully charge it because it has timestop

[quick birch]

!faq backpull

[small willow]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[daring oak]

anyways, thank you again Akemi, I go to work while I download ZZZ, have a good sleep later!

[quick birch]

you may opt to pull on fdd's( dragon coralie) rerun depending on how much crystals you have and how good the 8.6 valk is

just ask us again once she's here

[arctic idol]

Then what do I do with carnival pulls

[silver patio]

You alr did the free 20 pulls thats enough unless you’re gonna spend

Get hle’s weapon and thats it. Come back to us once fdd is here

[arctic idol]

Okay

[quick birch]

the general consensus for new player is to either spend them on ps or fws, we also have a pin going over every battlesuit that'll be on carnival supply

but as said don't spend more than the free 20 pulls

[sharp moss]

is kiana and sparkle next in the carnival supply?

[arctic idol]

Wait sparkle

I really want sparkle

But I shoudnt pull for her right

[silver patio]

I mean meta wise no… but if you REALLY REALLY like her then why not go for it gonna ruin chances though

[sharp moss]

i got vita with the free 10x before i found out shes not beginner friendly

[proper sleet]

lucky

[silver patio]

Why didnt u ask us

Anywyas i gotta go

[arctic idol]

Baiii

[sharp moss]

compulsive gambling

[silver patio]

I mean shes ur first S rank am i right?

Part 2”

[sharp moss]

yep, i just returned lmao

[fallen shale]

I ended up getting much better results from PAWS > FDD > HLE than I did PS > FDD > PAWS in this abyss

[quick birch]

have you tried HLE yet ?

[fallen shale]

no but she's mildly underbuilt rn

only lvl 60 wep and 50/45/50 on stigs

[quick birch]

hm maybe give it a try and see how it goes, if it's a lot worse than paws then prob don't bother

[proper sleet]

humn, Should I get HoThunder from war treasury?

Mei is so cool

[quick birch]

HoT is one of the better choices since she's in ER and has a stress test so sure

otherwise we also have a pin going over who'd be the optimal choices to get from WT

[fallen shale]

I only need 4 more points

[lone crater]

i think she good tho, 4 ring coverage rly good for beginners, and also early valk is early valk, lucky to get anything in the first place, like cant rly complain xd

[fallen shale]

I'm staying in A3 eitherway but if I get 4 more points I only lose 75 trophies instead of 150 lol

[quick birch]

she's fine it's just that beginner won't be able to utilize that ring coverage

not the worst outcome though

[obsidian lynx]

wats the rotation for the horb hle vita team

[lone crater]

they will eventually be able to use it

[quick birch]

https://youtu.be/0ZPgHkiaKEA?si=wIX2m8E3Au3DyHsw

[obsidian lynx]

o badum is better

[fallen shale]

holy fucking shit

HLE did WAAAAAAY better than PAWS

imagine if she was fully built

[silver patio]

Hey so, im lacking physical people to use in ma and considered to get HoSentience but im getting 7 thunders for hot in rw what should i do? Do i get hot first or hosen?

Also is hosen a support for mpe

[quick birch]

i mean you purchase both with different currencies so you can just get both

[silver patio]

Or is she a dps

[silver patio]

Wait what?

Ohh! I meant

[silver patio]

Im getting hot’s weapon in rw BUT i dont have hot and im lacking in physical ppl to use in ma so im considering getting hosen

[fallen shale]

wait what is this

I don't remember this valk

[silver patio]

Its horb new set

[fallen shale]

ohhhh

[silver patio]

Bunp

[fallen shale]

oh I also did that HLE run with the wrong dkey settings

and she still utterly smoked PAWS

[silver patio]

Im jelly i want paws

[quick birch]

you don't really get dkey's to use them but rather for the passive global +10atk buff, HoS is fine for SS MA and also further on if you need to use a physical cope team since she's able to impair.
In regards to if you should get HoT and HoS from WT they're both really good choices since they are in ER and have a stress test.

and again they're both purchased with different currencies

HoT with AW and HoS with AL

[silver patio]

Omg i swear they were both that annoying currency

[fallen shale]

damn I actually made it to 0 trophies lost

[silver patio]

Ty then!

[storm lantern]

they were

[fallen shale]

I'm not making it to RL or anything but I'm at least in a better spot for next cycle

[silver patio]

Oh really?

[storm lantern]

yeah some valks got moved to aw this patch

[obsidian lynx]

holy this week hella competitive

need 880+ to +0

[fallen shale]

so for the gene limits do the elemental bonuses for the supports matter at all or just the leader's

cause I've been setting the leader's element and then the right side gene limits for everything else

[storm lantern]

support damage is more important than the sp gene limits

[fallen shale]

o

well I stayed in A3 but I lost 75 trophies lol

HLE pretty close to maxed out now

just need to get the last stig up to lvl 50 and that's all

[shy kiln]

Is badum or PS the better pull for an account with hle fdd paws?

[charred basin]

how does carnival supply work, is it gonna change between 2 banners every few days? I need to spend a bit more for free Thelema and I don't wanna pull a whole outfit

[spiral badge]

!faq supply

[small willow]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

or you can check pins for the carnival guide. I reviewed some of how carnival works there

i really do not recommend building pity on carnival since pity doesn't carry over to future banners after the carnival duration is over

so if you spend on a more regular/common banner, even if you don't get anything, you keep the pity on those

maybe give this a read #👶beginner-help message

[celest shard]

Not sure who to throw the carnival tickets at

[spiral badge]

check pins

[sweet flax]

check the first pin

[primal herald]

do i get abyss flower or seven thunder of retribution?

[spiral badge]

if you haven't yet, check pins for alot of reasons i go into for each. I don't have a strong opinion overall between the two.

Since you already have HLE, Badum might be notable so you can further capitalize on SD enemies with them together in various types of teams

but also PS has appeals of hitcount and maybe giving you a chance against bleed situations that would hard shut alot of developing accounts otherwise

[sweet flax]

they are equal in value as dkeys
however worth noting abyss flower requires abyss to be crafted from foundry in order to get the +10atk sync bonus
and 7t has some ma uses with hoo

[spiral badge]

where are you getting it from?

[sweet flax]

from bp reserve no? or was 7t in the box we got this patch

[spiral badge]

oh i guess so. At that point i would also say there's no real rush and you may just wait until you have a specific situation where...

• you need the slight attack for a ranking change/improvement
• need 7T for actual use
• have enough orbs to get all available dkeys in the shop at once, with orbs to spare in case anything else short term niche comes up

[celest shard]

Shushang it is

[shy kiln]

alright, alright gotcha, ill pull PS then. But if i do happen to get her would her wep be mandatory for support? Ik its required for dps

[spiral badge]

the pin does go into this but the short answer is no for support

yes for dps but it wouldn't be worth spending actual crystals to cover this

long term f2p meta wise, you're better off allocating the crystals to something new that probably would see more use

[shy kiln]

aaaand i got her

[primal herald]

i wanted to know which one is better in gameplay but thx

[spiral badge]

congrats

[spiral badge]

i think asumara already answered your question in that case too. As said 7T has some very niche uses on HoO. However these are highly specialized. A newer player picking it up now may not be able to appreciate it before it falls off

[sweet flax]

at the moment neither of them are specifically
abyss flower and 7t were intended towards bke and hot who are very very out of meta

their main use as me and sairaan already covered is a stat stick

and even the hoo uses that 7t has are very limited and specific that they are unlikely to pop up

if you are picking from bp reserve then it doesnt matter which you pick, but keep in mind as I mentioned earlier you need to craft abyss from the foundry to get the sync bonus on abyss flower

[primal herald]

alr thx

[spiral badge]

we did have a niche use recently but if you don't match the ranks and equipment here, you prob are not doing this. ~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZS0EKYZjxM~~

and obviously it's quite whale or long term farmed

MA in general isn't important since you don't get crystals from ranking higher

oh wait

this doesn't use 7T nevermind lol

i looked at the stigs and assumed lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noY1ADbFXHE ok well here's a 7T use example. Again these are rare and niche. Note how long ago this video is from. We haven't seen anything similar in a while

[sweet flax]

😭 I thought it was in a part of the video since you sent it
"that doesnt look like 7t"

[spiral badge]

you can always wait for now in case an actual use case comes up

if rushing to pick it now, you may not appreciate the +10 atk at all, and drain your orbs and not be ready if there's something new added that you actually need (unlikely but overall the arguably safest choice)

[slim blaze]

Oh shit abyss

[keen pilot]

i need should i use

nvm ignore that

what should i pick here

[sweet flax]

you could, even though you said to ignore it keep in mind there are other more available sources for hc-metals such as asterite shop

[sweet flax]

soeae is the only weapon not available through other sources in that box, if you were to make a decision it would be that right now
but preferably you could hold the box for the affix mats in the future should soeae be added to bp (if you are competitive)

[daring oak]

Yea I just got that too, was wondering what I should get

[keen pilot]

i am below lvl 81 so i cant level it up past 50

[keen pilot]

dosent bp take a lot of time

[sweet flax]

weapons in the bp reserve shop will take a f2p player 2 patches to get enough crystallum to unlock something from it
so it is a bit long yes
however considering the fact you havent done your breakthrough yet its not like you are in a desperate rush for the bonus atk dkeys provide an account

[keen pilot]

ill hold onto it then

[daring oak]

Would HLE want this? Or better to hold box?

[quick birch]

theoretically yes but affixes don't matter a lot until you reach nirvana ( the highest abyss rank) so it's best to hold onto the box for now

[sweet flax]

for now if you want to get a start on dkey progression, make sure to craft sakura from the foundry for the lightning gene limit and then work towards getting enough weapon resonance for judah to sync with sakura to get the +10 atk from those weapons

[keen pilot]

oh let me see what it needs

[sweet flax]

you wont find judah in the foundry, we have a pin that goes more into detail on how to obtain it

.

[keen pilot]

o

[keen pilot]

do u need to priarm the weap or nah

[shadow gyro]

only pri arm the weapons that you'll use in endgame since you wanna save ur resources for that
you can pri arm other stuff you have for collection points but leveling just for that when you have limited resources isn't worth going for

[sweet flax]

as stea mentioned, you only need to pri arm weapons that you actively use on your characters (preferably newer weapons, dont go out of your way to pri arm keys of the void for example )
dkeys have their own option when you unlock them called "tuning"

[keen pilot]

would u say i sslavge thsi stuff

[sweet flax]

if you need the ether fuel you can yes, but keep in mind if you need any of them to craft something you had plans for

because it can be a very long grind to get them back

[keen pilot]

thankss

kallen is immune to elemental dmg ???

😭

[shadow gyro]

unfortunately yeah

but if you don't have enough valks for ma you can just throw wtv at her or ignore her

[keen pilot]

its for universal mirage physical f6

i was just brute forcing with my elysia cuz i did that with the other 3 but shes immune

immune to my brute forcing

[prisma oyster]

does anyone have a rotation guide for hle paws fdd

[dull plover]

Btw, try not to reply on pinned messages especially, mod, some dont mind and lyo is cool most of the time, do Forward it mext time

[sweet flax]

btw you can see if I pinged lyo or not

similar to how I didnt ping you

[dull plover]

Oohh, i see

[sweet flax]

also the whole message lyo sent is a huge wall of messages, if I forwarded it I might as well be flooding this channel

[dull plover]

For that, i just link it

[sweet flax]

you can, but they both achieve the same result, either way I informed them the message was pinned

[keen pilot]

wait u can see if the message was a ping or not even if ur not the person pinging or getting pinged?

[sweet flax]

if you reply to someone you can see on the bottom right if you are gonna ping them or not

also when you do ping them, in the reply it shows that you replied @ and the username beside it

[dull plover]

I didn't know that before, cool feature

[keen pilot]

i am aware of that im asking if i can see that you didnt ping someone without u telling me

[sweet flax]

also in the earlier case, as you can see I havent pinged lyo

[keen pilot]

i think it appears the same to someone watching and they cant tell whether u pinged or not

i am p sure

[sweet flax]

:p happens

if someone pings we just remind them to not

also some people have the setting enabled where replying to their message doesnt automatically ping them

I think at least

[keen pilot]

yes

its per server

[sweet flax]

well there's that too then

[simple bobcat]

for horb stellar outburst rotation is it better to start with horb then do her basic attack string and then teammates and then switch back to her for qte then ultimate or is it better to start stellar outburst with a teammate and then end with her attack string+ult

or is there literally no difference except the order

[grizzled raven]

There is no such option with the vanilla app. You can only turn off notification for yourself

[sweet flax]

basically ye, you start with horb basic sequence trigger resonance marks with the teammates through their rotations, end with horb hold atk + ult
some rots have a different approach with it where you can trigger horb's qte mid-so to get another hold atk in before finishing the full rot

[wraith brook]

can i do something better? or its limmit?
(Selle cant be uprgrade)

[sweet flax]

if seele cant be upgraded just stick to rs or jds dps then

btw you might wanna use fdd when you are brute forcing

[wraith brook]

Why?

[sweet flax]

because you arent going to be dealing as much damage, you need the extra breach

[wraith brook]

ok thanks

Guess i stay in Agony for a While with that Seele stig

[sweet flax]

the important thing for this patch is that hle is leveled tbh

but since you have a wide variety of valks you should be able to promote to rl

it wont be seele focused the whole time

[wraith brook]

HLE?

Sry dk what that boss it
Guess then skip 6-7 cubes in row not so much affect then
But still have doubt in my Skill
thanks for all

[lyric hornet]

Hi love elf the on banner valk

[wraith brook]

Oh so i guessed right ( i thought about how we name it)
thanks

[marble depot]

Hii, I started the game again after a while and I was wondering if it was better to just make a new account or grind on my current one. I have these valks

[prisma oyster]

make new, ur gonna really struggle with this one

[marble depot]

Okok, thank you!

[wraith brook]

antoher thanks
very close to +100

[sweet flax]

is this rs fdd jds?

[wraith brook]

Yes get 868
JDS - maybe just me but too low points(or slow me)

I need another 5 point to get 100+

[sweet flax]

you can always send a video of your run

if its just 5 points you can probably get away with cutting time in smaller areas

[tired flame]

hello, I just started the game. I was wondering what should I pull if there is any pulling plans for newcomers?

[sweet flax]

there's a pin that covers over what to pull

[frozen crypt]

!faq pull

[small willow]

Pulling Priority

Yo, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the pulling priority for this patch!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sweet flax]

or lyo can just send the faq instead

[frozen crypt]

:3

For carnival supply see Sairaan's pin

[tired flame]

👍 thank u

[safe laurel]

was this the thing which allows others to gain gems for inviting right?

[simple bobcat]

Yeah i thought maybe with like shields its good to do the attack string at the end so that the team can break the shield, still is my best clear but idk how else i can improve

[sweet flax]

yes, do you need an invite code? (please im desperate)

[sweet flax]

you should be able to break the shield before entering stellar outburst

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/9mNoXD2cidU?si=4jD-VpA1Ckt9brZ2 Here

[tired flame]

for the 10xfes drops, does it matter which one we dump it in?

[sweet flax]

well if you are planning on being competitive then you'd wanna take your chances on the more impactful ones like fws or ps
if you dont care about that then pull as you like with those free pulls (dont spend crystals on the banner, its a waste unless you can garuntee, and even then the units arent worth spending crystals on)

[safe laurel]

Xd

[sweet flax]

btw you dont need to keep holding atk on jds
on the first one its fine because there is an sd enemy and you are triggering their sd critical health but when fu hua spawned and you switched back to jds, you already applied your buffs with your qte

bruh

[tired flame]

oh wait I was wondering who is fws or ps

[sweet flax]

there is a glossary in the pins
fws - badum fiery wishing star (kiana)
ps - peregrine sword (sushang)

[young moth]

Ohh, did I do smth wrong😭? Im sorry, idk if thats like..bad

[sweet flax]

nah I meant that I already asked if they needed a code and you just swooped in, its fine lol

was just funny to see xd

dont need to apologise over nothing

[young moth]

I got embarrased😭 and I didnt get to invite a single person yet

[sweet flax]

oh definitely send him your code then

I just need 1 more and im done my pulls so im not as desperate for the crystals

btw also feel free to leave your code in #invite-links-here

[wraith brook]

I thing about dmg to do
im not sure how i can fell Hua (just guess i too lose here point)

[upbeat egret]

I think he really needs the charged attack with jds on sk since he is missing damage and jds damage contributes a lot in this fight

[young moth]

Okay, thank you! I tbh didnt even see that channel

[sweet flax]

I guess that can be argued
the main thing I see that I would change is instead of swapping to fdd here maybe swap back to rs?

though im not sure how much the score would change since fdd has time stop anyways

worth a try imo

[upbeat egret]

Her LOA animation doesn't have time stop tho

10 points

Or wdym

[wraith brook]

my jds have low attack somehow

[sweet flax]

the end of it and the animation going into it does no?

[sweet flax]

does your jds have her gear equipped lmfao where is the 100 atk

[upbeat egret]

It does but u are still burning 10 points or not

[sweet flax]

you either have 0 affixes or an unleveled weapon

[upbeat egret]

Jds charged attack is really worth here

[wraith brook]

100? i can have only anothet 25+

[sweet flax]

so mainly just the end swap into rs?

[sweet flax]

mind sending a pic of your gear

[upbeat egret]

Maybe he can try to skip cora breath and swap to rs again +charged? Could be slow tho

[sweet flax]

well not like jds dps is a thing anymore so her affixes arent as impactful but
crit rate affixes are very useless, they only increase the CRT value but due to the way the crit formula is calculated its a very small and minor increase

[upbeat egret]

Crit rate= trash

[sweet flax]

but still why is your atk so low for 4 atk affixes, should be around 1400

no dkeys?

[upbeat egret]

Why the lightning resistance on cora last stig?

[sweet flax]

should I be glad I didnt look at the other valks

[wraith brook]

So i need change it?

[sweet flax]

the crit damage is fine

[wraith brook]

not have 2 dmg in 1 roll

[sweet flax]

just replace the crit rate affix with crit damage or attack

[upbeat egret]

Keep in mind that u want atleast 40 attack on each stigmata

[sweet flax]

but imo you might as well reroll the whole piece to get a higher atk stat

[wraith brook]

no have much this

[sweet flax]

does jds not want some crit damage or very miniscule increase especially as a support

[tired flame]

👍

[upbeat egret]

Full attack is fine
Attack +CDM is already for peeps who mald their life

[sweet flax]

so basically just reroll the whole m piece since low atk + crit rate, t piece is fine, b piece reroll top affix

[wraith brook]

So i need rerol all this frist to 20+20?

[upbeat egret]

U can save them

They are fine already

[sweet flax]

I think your rs affixes are fine, especially for agony

[upbeat egret]

Not worth to burn material to reroll those piece

[sweet flax]

I mainly meant your jds affixes, but its not a big difference

[wraith brook]

and its better atk?

[sweet flax]

you just need to roll better affixes in general

the more important affixes right now are hle and horb affixes (if you have horb dkey)

[sweet flax]

but anyways ^

[wraith brook]

should i save it?

[sweet flax]

you could and roll the 2nd line

[wraith brook]

Sadly skip too much(mb moth or 6 week idk how i can count) and back on last or one last week ago
And have no resourses for her and cubes , only 12

[sweet flax]

did you get the dkey box last patch?

the one with xy sword in it

[wraith brook]

no?

i dont hear about that box

[sweet flax]

[wraith brook]

i back i 7day until all event end well
i have 6 daily quest complete in event
I nowhere see box

[sweet flax]

you are missing 70 atk in dkeys

[sweet flax]

it was last patch, you cant get it anymore, from mini spending event

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

there is another dkey box this patch that has soeae which you cant get through another source right now

but you might wanna save it for the affixes

[sweet flax]

what about your elysia, how are her affixes

[wraith brook]

oh so i miss it anyway
bc teammate say m
Since i have Cora and her Gear i cant risk with Pulls and i have not enought pull for box or what in speding thing

[sweet flax]

you dont need to pull for the box

its in this shop

[wraith brook]

but ineed "money" what we get from pulling no?

[sweet flax]

its not from spending event, its from the anniversary shop

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

spending event is for thelema

[wraith brook]

dont u talk about last patch?

[sweet flax]

oh you meant last patch spending event, nevermind then forget it

[wraith brook]

they bad guess

[sweet flax]

they all have 1 good line and 1 bad line xd

btw keep in mind elemental units cant crit

so crit damage is useless on elysia

[wraith brook]

if i find i can send it
i guess i send where i cant buy box
and they(teammate) say pulling not worth or smth in that topic

[sweet flax]

ye ye I know what you mean

[wraith brook]

mhm
just take what better and put it for last Sunday boss

[wraith brook]

sry (so i not need send)
just i can talk sometimes "bad"(?)

[sweet flax]

I understand what you mean xd

teammate told you to save your crystals instead of spending more to get anything from the spending event shop
which is why you couldnt get the dkey box last patch

im telling you dont worry about the other dkey box, I just wanted to know why you didnt get it (which you told me)

[wraith brook]

So i do all combo but in SO skip Cora and go on RS with WA and CA?

here i mean
*in that moment

[sweet flax]

yes swap into rs and charged I dont think you need to weapon

it might be slower but one way to find out

[lyric hornet]

Should I be farming illuminated land 2 for the red g1 for pledge key or do they drop on higher levels?

[sweet flax]

yes you should be farming illuminated land 2 for the fire g1 crystals

spirit weapons needed to craft bounty weapons for weapon resonance (in order to get judah from exchange shop) also requires g1 material, so going higher just means less g1 crystals and slower progress

[lyric hornet]

Ah okay will do that from next week on.

[wraith brook]

not enough

m
mb i need change smth before SO

[sweet flax]

not much to change tbh

[wraith brook]

then my hand just bad XD
idk felling like almost there but do smth wrong or

[sweet flax]

not you doing something wrong
its more to do that with your current equipment/units you are limited

brute forcing is not easy if the rest of the bracket has the better stuff

[wraith brook]

oh i MAY BE have chance but i need to do it properly now in that try

hm

now its not work somehow

[upper laurel]

I never got an answer to this?

[sweet flax]

to be honest I have no idea

[shell basin]

They’re at least different across servers

Haven’t compared my board to anyone else in NA but expect it to be different within a server too

[upper laurel]

cool, ty

[prisma oyster]

this is what i got on SEA so far

i just assumed theyre randomly generated ngl

[upper laurel]

probably are yeah

I'd need to see an EU board to know for sure

I actually finished it so far.

The first board anyway

[wraith brook]

guess that not work
860 or less

[sweet flax]

mimicked a couple of your spots

no they arent shared

[upper laurel]

yeah doesnt seem like it

[wraith brook]

ok skip JDS ult in 1st phase not work
then idk if i can do smth else

@sweet flax its better save it like this?
(save material for HoRb)

[sweet flax]

the bottom line is useless but if you need affix mats for horb it will do for now

[wraith brook]

ok thanks
then atleast im not in negative board
Im not roll any stats for HoRb

[fluid grove]

what is the best elf? which one should i get from the spending event thing

[prisma oyster]

i was told to get kiana elf yesterday, u can check the discussion scroll above here if u wanna see for urself

[spiral badge]

I have a few older write ups here (can more ignore any very specific examples since they may be outdated now)

#👶beginner-help message
#👶beginner-help message

[tall flax]

Surprisingly the affix is actually a make or break for abyss scores

A slightly off affix can ruin the entire rotation for the run

[spiral badge]

yeah. it really depends

[maiden garden]

i was sent into here 💔

[umbral heart]

Hello guys, so I'm new to this astral valkyrie thingy. I just want to ask or some advice if I should maxed out their stigmata level or just stay at level 35 first then get some other valkyrie stigmata? My HLE and LP are both have their signature equipments but stigmatas are still on level 35. I can also buy the Mad Pleasure: Shadowbringer card on the spending event so my first astral team will finally get built. Maybe it's a bad combination or team but I'm still learning this new thing

[shell basin]

You’ll want to run HLE dps supported by Vita and Valkyrie Blastmetal

Thelema can’t support HLE and isn’t very good without her weapon, tho if you had her weapon you could do Thelema dps supported by Vita and HLE

As for stigmas I would try to level up your HLE stigmas to level 50, and then if you have any spare prisms you could level up Vita stigs or look into crafting VBM/Thelema stigs

[amber finch]

it’ll abit confusing at the start for you

there is also a video guide in the faq

[umbral heart]

I can buy Thelema weapon on bp sooo does Thelemas is still good as dps these days?

[shell basin]

Thelema is kind of niche in abyss - she has a few bosses and is necessary for some HoHE bosses, and can support some early rings more generally, but HLE does an okay job at most everything Thelema wants to do

She’s great at MA if you care about that but that’s usually considered less important than abyss

[umbral heart]

I see, I guess I'll just gonna go on HLE main dps then team up with Vita and Blastmetal. Thanks!

[shell basin]

No problem

[maiden garden]

is it better to buy or upgrade?

[sweet flax]

depends on what you are buying or upgrading
but generally speaking having more signets is better than having a few enhanced ones (especially considering you will be getting enhanced signets every run )

can leave upgrading till the last shop when you have nothing else left to unlock

[shell basin]

Especially since early on buying signets can mean you unlock nexuses

Eg buying two bodhi in the shop would mean you only need to go through one bodhi portal to get su’s nexus

[lapis lichen]

Hi guys, i was wondering who or what i should try pulling for or saving for to make a HLE team

[sweet flax]

pulling pin covers it

[proper sleet]

Mine is from EU, and if this is the first board, then mine is different

[lapis lichen]

ah okie dokie ill have a look

[floral lake]

i should get this box right

[sweet flax]

its the best thing to get there yes, you will have a lot of leftover currency to pick up materials that you need or the coupon ticket if you wish

[tall flax]

Wow first time being first place, and I don’t even have the best Supports and Elf

My team

[spiral badge]

there's still a few hours left. Don't get too complacent yet if you want to keep first.

Also you have matching supports tags. The difference from those to the best isn't too big at that point.

[tall flax]

Teri does nothing for World Star

[spiral badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZPgHkiaKEA

teri is giving you initial ARI from FWS but i don't think that matters here

[tall flax]

Oh right that does matter because I need to activate SO asap

[spiral badge]

but anyway i'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything. Just beware that not having the best supports doesn't mean as much as you think nowadays

[spiral badge]

oh really? That sounds a bit strange

[lapis lichen]

how can i check the chat history? I wanna look through some of the FAQs but im not sure how to

[spiral badge]

anyway congrats for now but still vigilant

[tall flax]

I see, I’ll keep an eye out

[spiral badge]

keep in mind both HLE and FWS have different SD utility to handle the SD mob too but it's prob excessive here

[spiral badge]

you can use the search in discord. Note there are added parameters to consider such as in: (channel)

and in the pins we have a list of faqs

https://i.imgur.com/6lwsRmv.png

so quick example you can try

[upbeat egret]

Ur score should be around 915+ actually

[tall flax]

Is it? I optimized the run as best as I could

[spiral badge]

feel free to show what you're doing and others can help you further if you're interested

for RL purposes this is prob plenty

[upbeat egret]

U can try this

[spiral badge]

but always try to remain open to the idea that there's something you are still missing

[amber finch]

that pixel hp is depressing lmao

[tall flax]

What AstralOp is that?

[spiral badge]

chenxue

[tall flax]

Oh that’s why

[upbeat egret]

I swear

But perfect run can 920 with that team

But u need to bald every frame

[tall flax]

Chenxue provides extra damage and Charge for Symbiosis

[amber finch]

you can 997 opening too if you wanna mald reset 500 times

[tall flax]

Yea, with Teri that’s not enough damage

[upbeat egret]

U can still try and see

[upbeat egret]

Charge doesn't matter on this run

If u mean the AR sp

[tall flax]

I tried doing 997 opening before, I couldn’t kill P1 until after the Scythe slams down

[upbeat egret]

Try to add one basic like i did

[lapis lichen]

sorry i feel a little stupid asking this but do you mean that i can search the faq in the channel?

[amber finch]

yepper, you can just search a faq, lets say faq ches by typing in “!faq ches” and click on a professor or moderator’s message of that faq

[lapis lichen]

ah ok thats perfect, i wasnt sure if i was allowed to search them up. i really need to search up some faq's on what to do in certain game modes like universal mirage and other stuff cus its all so confusing lol

[amber finch]

oh no, all the messages are public so just search them freely

[tall flax]

Gonna try that

[amber finch]

thats how non prof/mod helpers forward the faqs to new players

[tall flax]

That kind of damage isn’t something that could be filled without a dedicated buffer

[upbeat egret]

This is a lot of damage missing

[tall flax]

Chenxue wherefore art thou

[upbeat egret]

Did I overestimate teri AR regen?

U were missing like 6 AR sp

[tall flax]

Teri AR regen only gives 8 per Heavenly Shift, I only have 1

Chenxue prolly gives more per Symbiosis

And since there’s 3 symbiosis, that’s 24 AR

[upbeat egret]

Damn i gave u a false information about teri then

I am washed

[sweet flax]

asaphie

[upbeat egret]

Well your 905+ was definitely super high then

[upbeat egret]

My favourite prof

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-easter-gif-21158905

[shell basin]

Gz

[tall flax]

Wait a minute, that’s 11+8+8

[upbeat egret]

Well done prolao...u need to do the same next weather too

[tall flax]

Even better than Teri if she had LoA team

[lapis lichen]

hi guys, i tried searching up a faq for universal mirage, but when i typed it up nothing came up im not sure if i did something wrong

[tall flax]

Full GoI/RoO team, that’s 33 AR if every member is GoI or RoO

[upbeat egret]

!faq mirage

[small willow]

Universal Mirage

Hi Captain!

See [here](#👶beginner-help message) For the Universal Mirage farming priority list!

Regarding Efficient Ether Fuel Farming (assumes you convert all stones into fuel):

F1: 10 per entry ticket + 0.6000 per 1 TSP
F2: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6333 per 1 TSP
F3: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6428 per 1 TSP
F4: 13 per entry ticket + 0.6500 per 1 TSP
F5: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6666 per 1 TSP
F6: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6700 per 1 TSP - (best efficiency!)
F7: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6600 per 1 TSP

If not using Time Swirl Passes (TSP), F5/6/7 are equal in efficiency.

[lapis lichen]

ah thanks so much

[tall flax]

I’m gonna save that link for my own faq reference

!faq mirage

[sweet flax]

What's next weather again

[upbeat egret]

Sd assaka extreme weather

[sweet flax]

Hle fdd fws?

[upbeat egret]

Yes sir

[sweet flax]

Thank God no paws

[tall flax]

Noooo I don’t have BFDD

Time for HoHE support ig

[ivory jolt]

should I pick herrscher of reason divine key or herrscher of thunder

[upper oracle]

can hle fdd and ps score above 811 in a3

[tall flax]

You can hold on to it until you get another DKey box

[ivory jolt]

why

[tall flax]

1. You may get a DKey box and it turns out you already have it.
2. It doesn’t have a use case outside of Sync
3. Related to 2, if you’re competitive, Sync may have a use, otherwise save.

[lime narwhal]

Guys, whats a good third member for HoRB and the new Elysia form?
I'm an extreme newbie, simp of HoRB for very long, and now that she got her dlc I kinda decided to give HI3 an oficial go. And got lucky with her new key and also got Elysia, so what can I do around that?

[tall flax]

Oh and it doesn’t expire

[spiral badge]

if you really have to pick, then pick HoR's since that's not available anywhere else. HoT's is technically available from reserve works battle pass shop (permanently there)

But what Ron said isn't false. There's no expiration on the box. The weapons don't have actual meta gameplay use (they are now out of date) and are only for passive stats. The only reason to rush it is if you now really need the +10 atk from the dorm divine key menu syncing, which is very small on its own and largely not noticeable unless you have a marginal situation you know very well right now.

Otherwise, there's also the affix selector in the box which is kinda rare and valued at a very high meta level, since affixes are costly to reroll. As Ron said there's always the possibility of them having another future event where they force a divine key weapon on you more directly with less choices, so picking one now may result in a dupe down the road (unlikely but possible).

@ivory jolt just so you don't miss this

[spiral badge]

What does your valkyrie roster look like? Do you have any other astral ring valks? Do you understand how astral ring system works? It changes how we team build fundamentally

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

if you don't then try giving the last link here a read first

but the short answer at worst is HoRb leader (dps) with HLE Elysia and VBm Coralie (farmable)

feel free to ask if you need further help. The game has changed alot over the years and you can treat yourself as new. We know it's overwhelming and the new systems aren't intuitive

[tall flax]

Wish HoFi was in WT so I can get her and use her gear instantly

[spiral badge]

she's in reserve works if you have the orbs to spare. I don't recommend it though for now

[lime narwhal]

I do not at all, thanks, I will read on that to get the fundamentals going.
And I literally only have Herrscher of rebirth (love her a lot) and got lucky and got her key first 10 pulls and Elysia on another 10.
Besides that all units I have are pretty old like the motorcycle bronya. Tbh I'm using a (very) old account that only had seele.
And tbh I rly want to focus on her if I can bcs simp

[spiral badge]

oh btw leona if you need to show your valk roster then main menu > valkyries > bottom left for the grid menu is the best way to show us

the other main change compared to before astral ring was implemented is the gacha system

!faq supply

[lime narwhal]

I mean I can show but it's a joke

[small willow]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

mainly the equipment section

up to you if you want to show it or not. Main thing i'm looking for is if you have any other astral ring (aka part 2) valkyries

but anyway see what you can gain from the two faqs for now. We can discuss later

[spiral badge]

do you have VBm's signature hammer yet?

[lime narwhal]

I will read through them, thank tbf I'm extremely lost bcs it's been such a long time and so many things changed

[spiral badge]

yeah take things at your pace. It's alot

[lime narwhal]

The hammer girl? I'm not sure, can check

Nope, just a basic 2 star. I do plan to pull in weapon banner for hi love elf bow tho

Is that hammer craftable?

[spiral badge]

the hammer is free from early part 2 story, which you can jump to at level 30

!faq cof

[small willow]

How to find "Covenant of Finality"

Sorry for the confusion, Captain!

Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.

Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Play!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

there's minimal part 1 spoilers there so you can dip in, progress enough to get the hammer, and dip out to resume much later when you're ready for it

[lime narwhal]

Okay, will do so

Okay now let me read it all and then get back here lmao

[lapis lichen]

just wondering, one of the main priorities of new players is to do a bunch of the sotry right?

[spiral badge]

story crystals (unless it's a new story addition for the patch) are permanently available so in some sense not really, but beginners are rushing to get enough crystals to not miss out on a new release valk and weapon

so once you exhaust all your current time savvy limited crystal sources (you may opt to skip some of the limited sources that takes too much time), you may opt to rush story for more before the banner goes away

[lapis lichen]

ah ok, currently im at chapter 7 or 8

[spiral badge]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

for your convenience but this is always there in the pins

you can use the first link to assess how much more you can get from somewhere

and the second link to see what are the actual missables are

---

digressive minor note for rushing through story, beware if you skip through a cutscene that is supposed to play a cg, it won't get added to your collection menu. I do not believe any of these are missable though as you can always replay the specific mission. Once the cg starts playing, it is added and from there you can skip and maybe even quit from the mission (no need to complete if you already have done so)

[lapis lichen]

thanks so much. honestly i might read all the dialogue in the story because the lore is pretty interesting. I think the furthest ive ever gotten was chapter 15

[spiral badge]

fully up to you. While most of the story is replayable, a few things can only be experienced a certain way the first time (esp elysian realm), and replaying them won't be the same.

I think newer stories may be guilty of not being able to replay certain content too

but at worst people out there have recorded their playthroughs too on youtube

[lapis lichen]

yeah thats true, elysian realm has always confused me so im gonna try to understand it better this time round cus the story is pretty good according to others

[spiral badge]

i'm sure there's guides and summaries out there. Maybe ask #📚honkai-lore once you progressed enough too (to mitigate spoilers)

but let's stop that topic here because this channel has a firm no story policy

since others are also here that may not be as far as you

[lime narwhal]

Okay I'm getting the basic of how the new system works and am looking at the tags the Valkyries I have got but just something is bothering me.
For instance the symbiosis tag, when we have how many stacks of shining trace is needed to trigger facet of infinitude? And what are the team wide buffs it gives? Lmao

[spiral badge]

i'm not the best to answer this question tbh lol. HLE in particular kinda cheats because she can go into negative sp, so you may not need to restore as much

and just so we're clear, at this point we're talking about grail as the leader (e.g. HLE leader)

so this doesn't apply if horb is the leader (world star) and hle is support

i don't recall any actual support effect being specifically tied to traces/facets

it's mainly sp gain in my mind

[quick birch]

There's a small damage buff depending on how many facets of infinitude ( iirc that's the name lol )you have

[lime narwhal]

I see, it's just that in the guide it was said "team wide buffs" and I was like... Ok, Wich buffs? Lmao
But it seems like it's highly situational

[spiral badge]

ok maybe mango can answer this better than i can lol

i guess i'll go look around

[shell basin]

HLE wants 2 ideally. 1 +ROO works. 1 and cope p1 support is kind of awkward and you’ll need to farm some SP time. I often only get one facet when dpsing but tbh I don’t have a principled reason of it besides “faster this way”

[lime narwhal]

Lmao, okay so basically once in stellar outburst - costumes the most so and ult as most as u can so u get more SP refund and a minor DMG buff, basically?

What's ROO? this game has way too many abbreviations bro

[spiral badge]

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

RoO is rite of oblivion

[lime narwhal]

oh

Ok now I know what it refers to

[spiral badge]

basically the wildcard ring type. It activate leader effects even if the valk lacks the matching tag, but provides no core functionality to the non matching ring type

[lime narwhal]

Coralie in my case

That actually explain why I was spamming so many ultimates early, makes so much sense now

[spiral badge]

we understand that lack of abbrev is very uphill to work with but beginners do have to learn eventually so it's best to expose them/familairize them with where to look for it. We can spoon feed a bit early on to get you started at least

[quick birch]

It's basically for every 1200 SP consumed you gain 1 facet of infinitude since 1 shining trace = 1 SP that you consumed, now if we take symbioses supports into this equation they provide additional shining trace on their ult and regen SP with their ult + another move. In Horb's case it's her CA ( hold attack) then because of this SP your HLE can now consume 1200 SP with her ult again which would let you get to 2 facets of infinitude.
Let's say you had another symbioses support they both would provide enough shining trace so that you end up with 3 facets of infinitude

Lemme dig up the buff numbers rq

[lime narwhal]

Eventually I'll learn just need a bit of time. At least I learnt the basics of the astral ring system.
Still this game is way too situational isn't it? I feel like most games u won't do having like a fixed team, so planning pulls might be confusing as a starter

[shell basin]

Technically ROO does increase initial SP for grail. More helpful for HLE than paws but it’s not just the 3/3 buff and auto SO refresh

[spiral badge]

yeah this game expands to many scenarios later. So the general competitive advice is to ignore all reruns and past releases. Focus only on pulling new releases of the patch when you can guarantee them (valk and weap one copy each)

[lime narwhal]

Got it, apparently I was doing the right rotation even tho I had no idea I was doing it. Ngl, feels busted, specially ulting twice back to back

[quick birch]

Not again

[lime narwhal]

Perfect

So like, since I'm RoRb simp I was planning on organizing my pulls (after HLE weapon) to get an ideal third member for them, and plan accordingly... Ig I'll just hoard pulls for each new release then lmao

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/gCegD02.png

[shell basin]

If you have free carnival tickets you can throw them at Vita for Horb

[lime narwhal]

Tried 2 times, unlucky sadly. Dunno if we get more for free if I rush smt

[quick birch]

Anyway the buff number is 25%/25%/40% ice damage for 1/2/3 facets of infinitude, seeing that 3 facets do increase her damage by quite a bit the difference is probably more notable than I thought but it's additive so it's not a instant +15% DMG buff

[shell basin]

Nah that’s it

[quick birch]

Ah thanks sairaan

[lime narwhal]

Btw, shiki is amazing

[spiral badge]

we only get the two ten pulls

[quick birch]

Idk why the second effect tied to 3 facets is there tbh but

Seems quite useless to me when you'd want to WA anyway

[spiral badge]

yeah that's kinda weird. Maybe people can do a weak quick ult then weap but that doesn't sound good either lol

[quick birch]

Ult also needs 100 so idk

[spiral badge]

sp pack pickup

anyway let's not digress too far about this

[spiral badge]

btw where is this? i'm only seeing the max sp boost from the lead skill

[quick birch]

Initial sp scales of max sp

[lime narwhal]

I may be saying crap, but in a way this system sounds like you can make any combination of Valkyries work? Some much stronger than others but still
Idk ig I will understand it better once I have a wider roaster and can actually play with it

[spiral badge]

oh is that this bit https://i.imgur.com/d7uk2Pe.png. ok i see

[shell basin]

Yeah pretty sure

[spiral badge]

not any, but many for sure

it's arguably much more flexible than before

[quick birch]

Also +10% from weapon

[spiral badge]

so earlier we were talking about HLE and HoRb right? Both have different ring types but both have matching tags to each other too

[lime narwhal]

That's very good tbh. I like especially the idea that u can flex same character as both dps and support (if I did understand correctly). Make things more flexible and easier to match DMG typed

[lime narwhal]

Yeh I saw it, does it mean both work together but not to the fullest?

[shell basin]

Horb is one of the worst symbiosis for HlE but that’s unrelated

HLE is a good horb support

And even if Horb isn’t great as symbiosis support she’s still way better than any non symbiosis battlesuit

[lime narwhal]

Ig something is better than nothing

This system is much more complex than what I understood of it ig

[spiral badge]

nowadays for most intents and purposes (some exceptions) even if they're not the best, as long as the tag matches, you can still get close results

and overall good enough for the general goal of red lotus tier retention in abyss

(semi highest tier)

https://i.imgur.com/rKpR6fv.png

not exactly a comparable example but enough to get the general message across

here we have FWS kiana leader (LoA ring type) with various support combinations as denoted on the left

but you can look at the percentages and most combinations are still within 10% or so of each other

if you go high enough in the game, that 10% is still a big deal but for RL, it's workable

[wispy aurora]

How likely is Brick to show up again in a D-key box?

[spiral badge]

i can't tell you how likely something is. All i can say is it's not currently known to be available/accessible for now. As time goes on things are expected to become more and more available

but nothing stopping them from randomly making something unavailable for extended periods (the notorious xy sword)

Edit: i don't think brick was ever in a box? unless there's some paid or pyramid box i didn't kept track of.

[spiral badge]

there can be some exceptions, like a particular support can be much worse (obviously farmable coralie and helia but also some some gacha valks may fall under this too)

or some scenarios far in the game will specify for a particular one (tank boss has a weakpoint that only HoHE can access. That's an extreme example. Lesser examples include maybe the boss wants a high hitcount, where sushang or vita or lantern can handle it)

[wispy aurora]

Just asking as I got 2 D-key boxes and 1 missing from all of them (x3) so if I chose XY and SoE AE I'll only be missing brick

[spiral badge]

we talked about this before didn't we?

[wispy aurora]

It was either wait or get Xy as its not been in forever

[spiral badge]

So there's the event one we got recently for SoEAE. What's the other one exactly?

[lime narwhal]

And tbh that's what I need, something functional already is perfect. Bcs let's be honest I'm simply new, endgame is faaaaar for me, I'm still lvl 42. It will take a while. And for a game as old as this...

[spiral badge]

if it offers brick and xy sword, i'm just going to say wait

[spiral badge]

as for the SoEAE box, i talked about it here

[lime narwhal]

It's just that I like to get heads up of what I'm getting myself into and more or less plan in advance so I don't brick the account later on

[spiral badge]

the way you brick an account is to take large breaks or to spend your crystals on reruns

the way you catch up with the meta is actually not focusing on reruns at all. Just keeping up with as much new releases as you can and letting the older meta fall off

you're not expected to pull every new thing but with enough time, enough of the older meta falls off while you expand your roster enough to cover most future situations

ofc not every valk is equal. things are more equal than before but we still have outliers. some valks can be an obvious skip. The main things to not skip are generally those with team breach in their kits

e.g. senadina/vita/FDD coralie (not saying to catch up on them now)

these historically have been commonly used in top teams

but if you really can't get them it's not the end of the world. breach isn't as big as it used to be evidently from the chart i posted. Lesser options can still be enoguh

it's just at the highest tiers (nirvana) even a tiny difference can separate you from others because everyone has the same valks and are playing well

[tall flax]

A bricked account can be fixed but it will take time

Better to not be on that situation

[spiral badge]

oh i should've said this first thing. It might sound strange why we are emphasizing meta so much. This is because abyss is like half of your regular weekly income at an RL level. It's pretty big

but you can always find your own balance of meta/casual and settle for less. there's multiple tiers for a reason

[spiral badge]

yeah so the idea is to develop/unbrick an account is to save enough crystals for new releases. The more wasteful you are/less you have, the more it takes to reaccumulate

[winged veldt]

It doesnt seem to have time gated. Why I cannot unlock it?

[tall flax]

Your characters aren’t lvled

[spiral badge]

can you go to the event main menu > character growth at bottom right > make sure the level button below each portrait is no longer clickable? https://i.imgur.com/mdkyip2.png

[lime narwhal]

That actually makes a lot of sense, tbf meta is relevant in most of games of those size bcs older units usually always lose space to new. Sadly most gachas end up being like that.
But it's good to be aware that here it's even more focused on a single content

[winged veldt]

it maxed for 4

[lime narwhal]

But fr, just knowing that what I need to focus is on releases and not on reruns, and pull only if I can guarantee both char and their weapon, already sets it all for me

[spiral badge]

can you show us? Just so we're clear the first screenshot you sent was just clearing the stages. It's not their level.

[lime narwhal]

Bcs I know what to look and organize myself for. So for that and all the explanation I thank you a lot

[spiral badge]

it's prob possible to clear all those stages without max level

[spiral badge]

any other questions? feel free to ask away

[lime narwhal]

(will probably be back here a lot tho bcs I tend to get obsessive with games im interested in so I like to get into finer details)

[lime narwhal]

Not for now, I should focus on playing and write it down as I do so lmao

[spiral badge]

hmmm have you claimed rewards from all missions yet? Maybe it's checking to see if that one is cleared.

[spiral badge]

perfectly fine. I won't always be around and others may not answer as extensively as i do, but others will help you enough.

Be sure to check pins for all sorts of general info too

[winged veldt]

yes

[lime narwhal]

Will do so, thank you a loooot.
And everyone who also helped thanks guys. Will get started on my grinding

[spiral badge]

hm thank you for showing all that. Yeah i'm sorry I really have no clue for now. Maybe try asking again later when other people are around

i'll try asking others too

[winged veldt]

ok

[quick birch]

Seems like you haven't cleared vill-v student exam yet, maybe it has something to do with that

Theoretically it shouldn't but better be safe than sorry

[spiral badge]

it wouldn't be the first time the game doesn't actually state what its real conditions are

[haughty elbow]

what about vill v?

[winged veldt]

yeah just try to finish them all

[spiral badge]

someone is telling me ely isn't counted of the four apparently

but yeah see what more other things you can do for now and come back to it later

[haughty elbow]

i just dont think they did vill v

ely should count

oh for the 4

yeah i dont think she counts

[spiral badge]

it would make sense since the game wants you to take on the final exam after you're done with that time gate section

and vill v and kalpy share that same gate

[haughty elbow]

the real answer is hoyo typoed 5 as 4

[spiral badge]

but yeah it's a very misleading message

any

[tall flax]

Could be 7

[haughty elbow]

if it was 7 it wouldnt unlock

[spiral badge]

if that was the case, many other people would've had problems

[pseudo orchid]

how do you do team rotation with HLE, VBm and RC?

[spiral badge]

one of the pins here extensively cover this step by step

[neon quiver]

is aponia's lightning attack affected by attack speed?
or would it need to be cooldown

it's her basic attack so I'd guess attack speed, but maybe it's special

[quick birch]

When you click on the weapon it's mentioned that it's affected by Cooldown

[neon quiver]

oh.

thanks lol

[balmy shell]

is chenxue worth to pull?

[shell basin]

If you’re trying to retain Nirvana and have crystals to spare sure

Otherwise probably not

Also she needs SS to be really good, S is less than half the benefits for half the cost

So that’s very expensive

[balmy shell]

alright thank you

[abstract mauve]

Between these 3 Valks who is the best for a free2play player? Badum, Sparkle or LoveElf?

Oh i meant F2P Beginner

[keen pilot]

elf

[swift parrot]

is she good i got her randomly in the standard banner (asking as a new player)

[abstract mauve]

She is good as a Part 1 character.
She is a Lightning + Fire Support
But she is the best on the Trio Team (Finality + Truth + Origin)

But since she is basically free now i would say she isnt even worth on Dorm since we get a Box with her and EgoElysia

Like in a few hours/days

Finality would have been better

[swift parrot]

ouuu okay im not complaining since i got her in a single pull without pity thanks for the info

[abstract mauve]

Oh ok then its cool she is a decent Ice DPS

But still Ego Elysia and LoveElf are better

And yeah now atleast u can get EgoElysia for free

[fossil jungle]

Do I have anyone on my acc worth using or someone who would be a potential target to grind for with this character list.

[odd plume]

several cope team that you can use

[cinder peak]

Should I get coralie set, just for 1 cycle in abyss?

[odd plume]

dont focus too much on them tho, try to get HLE asap

[cinder peak]

For ref, the team used will be vita, 2 coralies

[odd plume]

i see nothing wrong with getting full gear for vita team when you already have the team
but maybe leave tsiolkovsky at lv35 and make sure that you will have enough prism for next new valk

[unique crystal]

is herscheser of humanity elysia still meta?

[sweet flax]

she has some use cases assuming you own her dkey (flawless benediction)

but from a meta perspective, she isnt a valuable investment due to her lackluster dps performance with lack of ranks and specific units (most notably thelema + her weapon)
as a support she is extremely underwhelming, her goi performance has been an imporvement, but definitely not something to gloat about

[ancient canopy]

hie good evening, when tuning a divine key am i supposed to level it all the way through first or just on her at normal its ok

[ancient needle]

It doesn't matter

Can do either way

[ancient canopy]

okay thanks

[nimble apex]

Guys, if I need tuned sea-cleansen floret to make forge priarm, then how will it work ? if it says this

[warped geyser]

the tune warning just means you can't salvage/convert it into mats

[nimble apex]

ah ok thank you

[frosty kernel]

f this sht bruh

getting ely aint enough to stay. Need to have 3 part 2 teams to d it now i guess to stay

[rotund roost]

Why 3 part 2 teams? I thought only 1 for the final stage though?

[frosty kernel]

i mean 3 chars part 2 team

only had ely and coralie but its not enough

[supple sentinel]

why i cant dump my dupe stigmatas?

[silver patio]

Hey so ik this is dumb, but do i go for the pink ones or the brown ones.
Im lacking on the brown one so i need to decide-

[shell basin]

So on one hand I advise you save it until you neee one of them. If 200 SC metal will let you max a pri arm and promote, it’s better, but likewise in reverse with Honkai shards.

In raw value 200 metal is 48k asterite, and the 3 Honkai shards are worth 40k asterite

So it’s not a ton of difference

[shell basin]

(And 70 torus is 69k so better than either if you need it)

[raw abyss]

When do I unlock elysian realm?

[shell basin]

Level 50

[shell basin]

Right, so if you’re very close to an abyss promotion you can open it and do that

But if you don’t need it there’s no point in rushing

[silver patio]

Ah so save it first and when abyss opens tomorrow im gonna see first if i need it

[shell basin]

And that way in the very long run you might save it for ether fuel or wafer stabilizers, or maybe at some point you will desperately need phase shifters

[silver patio]

Also im finally at superstring manifold

[shell basin]

Yeah if you need it don’t be afraid to open it but if you don’t there’s no need

[lyric anvil]

Next cycle HLE boss

[raw abyss]

Why cant I use my Love Elf on certain missions (the story missions where I can pick my character)

[silver patio]

Thts part 1, annoying.

[lyric anvil]

Certain missions don't allow part 2 characters

[raw abyss]

Why cant they just allow it tho, My Seele is weak AF

[silver patio]

Mihoyo/hoyoverse weird stuff

[shell basin]

You can use Terminal Aide or Reverist Calico or HoV or such instead of seele

And they’ll be stronger

[raw abyss]

I don't have HoV begginer mission is gone when I come to my old acc

[lyric anvil]

Returnee?

[shell basin]

Ah. Well, TA or RC or SI also would work fine and are worth building

[silver patio]

hey @shell basin if by any chance next character isnt a support for hle, is it alr to lvl up my ps’s stigmatas?

[ancient needle]

Have you changed the device you play on? Are you using a VPN?

If it's not smth you can revert you'll have to wait about a week

Or you can set up Device Lock in your profile (if it allows you to)

[shell basin]

You can do it anyway if you have the prisms. How many do you have and do you have the ticket?

have you grabbed all the event prisms?

[shadow gyro]

if ur hov decently leveled you can use her
maybe even TA or/and SI
or you can ignore it until you get a new physical valk

[silver patio]

Only got the 3 from youthful dreams, havent gotten the ticket, not sure where to check if i can get more

[ivory jolt]

should I tune or pri arm seven thunder of narukami? I do wanna use it for my hot

[silver patio]

Also just found out i have 4 more to get this box, so im opening the box for the 200 one

[silver patio]

Tune everything

[ivory jolt]

it says I can pri arm it, does that mean I won't be able to use it for her?

[ivory jolt]

So I'm good

[silver patio]

I have 7 prisms

[shadow gyro]

just don't level it much since 7t and HoT is hardly used
unless you're a casual or just really love HoT then sure level it and tune it

[shell basin]

7 prisms + ticket + 8 weeks until next version

means you can definitely upgrade 1 of them to 40 no problem

[ivory jolt]

I do love her! I am a casual

[shell basin]

you could probably bring them all to 40 actually if u wanted

especially if u havent done part 2 story yet

[maiden garden]

I NEED HELP PLS

anyone that has good knowledge of the game dm me plssss

[lone crater]

why not just ask here

[maiden garden]

Oh okay

So basically

[cyan spindle]

supplies A and B share pity right?

[maiden garden]

I started not long ago and im tryna do the growth regimen missions im at phase 2. And i did the missions but when i go back to claim them its like i didnt do them and i tried over and over and its still not working

[lone crater]

yes, carnival is its own pity though

[maiden garden]

U can see i did it like why is it not registering

I tried on my phone and PC but still nothing

[cyan spindle]

I dont think thats a ryu

[maiden garden]

When i click on go it brings me there

[cyan spindle]

this is a ryu

[maiden garden]

Huh

Im lost here

[lyric anvil]

Equip the stigs it says to Seele

[cyan spindle]

ryunosuke akutagawa is a stigmata set

[maiden garden]

Ooohhh and what about the lvl

[lone crater]

ur not equipping the right stigmata set

[cyan spindle]

it says you have to equip it on swallowtail phantasm

[shell basin]

Yes

[maiden garden]

It says she has to b lvl 25 and shes 33

[cyan spindle]

you have to level T M and B I think

[oak estuary]

U need to lvl the stigmata, not seele

[maiden garden]

Whats that

[lyric anvil]

The stigs to level 25

[lone crater]

bro read its the stigmata level

[maiden garden]

I DONT KNOW WHAT A STIGMAWTVTF IS

[lone crater]

no seele here

[maiden garden]

i am reading

[cyan spindle]

you have 1 ryunosuke leveled up to 25

[oak estuary]

Its the stuff below wp

[maiden garden]

Okay so i have to equip the right stigmata or wtv

And i have to lvl up the stigmata

[lone crater]

yes

[cyan spindle]

yes

[maiden garden]

Okay okay TYSMMMMM

bro i was STRUGGLING

im stupid

Sorry and ty 𓂂ɞ̴̶̷ ₃ ɞ̴̶̷𓂂

[cyan spindle]

dont sweat it, it takes a while to get used to

guys I just got back do I save for 8.6 or gamba on ely? I have 8k crystals

[maiden garden]

Okay it still says im not doing it rught

But i put on the right ones

[oak estuary]

Because u havent equiped the stigs

[cyan spindle]

thats not ryu equipped, thats marco polo I think

[maiden garden]

I equipped the ones that have the blue thumbs up

Doesnt it mean it fits her?

[oak estuary]

U equip ryunosuke, not the thumps up one

[maiden garden]

LMAO IM GONNA CRY

[oak estuary]

Means its reccomended by the game, u can safely ignore it since in game rec kinda

[maiden garden]

okay lemme try again

[lone crater]

it doesnt matter if it fits her or not, if the game asks for a specific set to be equipped, you equip that specific set

[maiden garden]

YES I GOT IT

[cyan spindle]

tbf marco polo does deal more damage, thumbs up is good. tutorial is hella specific tho

[maiden garden]

OMG YES I EQUIPPED THE TWINK LOOKING GUY AND IT WORKED

Yall r genuises

[naive cargo]

Should I use swallowtail phantasm or someone else for q manifold?? im just tryna clear phase 5 😦

[odd plume]

what is your lv?

[naive cargo]

41

[odd plume]

try TA team

[lyric anvil]

Prof Hsien when

[odd plume]

if it's agony or below, HoV should be able to solo

[odd plume]

aint got time for that shit

[lyric anvil]

Fair enough

[naive cargo]

ohkay
Question
what about HoHe

[odd plume]

you have her?

[naive cargo]

ya

[odd plume]

there are cope team for her in that link too

[naive cargo]

k

[odd plume]

pretty sure you can just solo with full peary

[cyan spindle]

peary light string

[simple bobcat]

Is this why hohe bis team has thelema and hle

[tired shard]

Between CNY Kiana, Sparkle or Li Sushang, who should I try my luck with 2x 10 free pulls? For the record I already have 4/4 Vita

[storm lantern]

top pin

[worn peak]

[amber finch]

because hohe’s dps outside of SO is dogshit

thel has to be the dps + ari farmer for the team outside of SO

[arctic idol]

Guys I just started to game why do I suddenly love to embrace

[keen pilot]

i suck at using hov so probably just ignore until i get physical valk and its okay either ways im gonna be farming g1 fire

[fallen shale]

what are some cope supports I can put on HLE for Memorial Arena?

[odd plume]

VBM, RC, JK, SSb etc

[upbeat egret]

@sweet flax pls put a star on your in game..its important

★

[lyric anvil]

[arctic idol]

What can I genuinely do in this game

[maiden garden]

Goon to elysia

Also question, how do u change the background

Is it changing depending where u are in the story or is there a way idk u can customize it

[shadow gyro]

eif its the p2 map then u pick the map u want and stand where u want to bridge to display
if its p1 map then u just need to have the bridges themselves

[wintry wharf]

is still possible to create another account adding a . in gmail mail?

[upbeat egret]

#🔌technical-help maybe you can ask there

[odd plume]

yes, just tried few day ago

[keen pilot]

is this worth it

i will have to level up durandal for this cuz shes lvl 1

[shadow gyro]

i think this can use any dudu and you need to use bke and da for their stress tests so u can use both in this too

had you had rs she works in there too

[wintry wharf]

ye worked at what level bp unlocks?

[odd plume]

should be lv20, that's when you get BP mission

[keen pilot]

yes but i only have the gloria the one that is in the image so thats the only one i can use

[shadow gyro]

hmm you can leave it for later
since you need to get bke and da anyways
you can farm them from wt unless you get lucky in dorm

[keen pilot]

okay thank you

i think i unlocked this stuff a little bit too fast

[shadow gyro]

its alright

[keen pilot]

are there any sources of stamina other than leveling up or buying

[shadow gyro]

log in (ingame), check in (hoyolab), i don't remember if there's any tasks that give you stamina pods but you should be getting the juice item at least, you may need to check cadet tasks as well
otherwise you just let it increase on its own

[keen pilot]

240 is the cap for max stamina right?

[shadow gyro]

there's stamina overflow

[keen pilot]

yes im aware i was wondering if it went further than 240

[shadow gyro]

the cap gotta be around 300 until it stores overflowing stamina

[keen pilot]

i saw dorm has overflow and it goes up with valk exp

thankss

[spare fjord]

Hi, I’m a newbie. I just reached level 51 and unlocked the Elysian Realm, but now I’m stuck at Story Chapter 1, Stage 4. The mission says to “interact with the Battlesuit Enhancement”, but when I click on Enhance Battlesuit, it just takes me to the Trial screen, and I can’t progress the story. How do I continue from here?

[prisma oyster]

are dkeys worth to lvl up for tthe extra atk%?

[prisma oyster]

can u ss maybe?

[spare fjord]

Hmm, I’ve just fixed it. I changed the interaction key from R to F, so after resetting the key settings, it worked fine. Thank u so much

[keen pilot]

u need to go into battlesuit enhancement in the map

not from the option

[spare fjord]

Thank u so much, I did it

[keen pilot]

should i craft coralie stigmas or nah?

[odd plume]

depend

mostly just about your prism management

also you can just leave them at lv 35 40 etc.

[keen pilot]

i dont really have anyone usable except hle whos stigs are maxxed and i have about 12 prisms in my inventory so i was wondering if i should play p2 and get coralie and her weapon ?

[odd plume]

you should do that
about her stigmata, look like you are having good amount, i see nothing really wrong with crafting Tsiolkovsky, maybe leave it at lv 35, the bonus from upgrading is small

only M piece really matter when upgrading to support elemental dps

[keen pilot]

i got like 10 ely stig dupes i can salvage also do i save my summon shop currency? i have like 700

[odd plume]

yes, save for stamp of good valk that you have

[peak adder]

Is there anyone good to get in the war treasury? If yes who should I get

Here

[keen pilot]

#👶beginner-help message

[lone crater]

we have pins about it, but tldr they basically ded valks metawise, so u either choose whoever u like or choose whoever has some additional stuff that u can unlock

[wintry wharf]

how i get free coralie as beginner?

[keen pilot]

seems to be mostly for elysian realm and dorm buffs

[keen pilot]

playing part 2 story unlocks after lvl 30

[lone crater]

r u trolling mr daniel pro

last time paul trolled me

took the bait

[lone crater]

some of them has stress test, but yea

[sweet flax]

Wow beginner help helper mocking player instead of answering questions cant believe it

[lyric anvil]

[restive veldt]

Guys I just pulled my weapon for love elf. Is rebirth weapon worth pulling for? No rebirth atm.

[sweet flax]

if you dont have horb then you shouldnt force the dkey
what abyss rank are you in

[restive veldt]

Iirc someone here said we getting rebirth for free soon

[glad ice]

not "soon"

[restive veldt]

Sinful rn I just came back

[sweet flax]

getting rebirth for free?

[restive veldt]

[restive veldt]

Idk someone here said in like 2 patches or smth

A few days ago. Don't rmb who said that

[sweet flax]

I have not heard anything about that tbh

[serene crystal]

Or a few patches ago more likely. She was a spending event reward

[sweet flax]

right now there is 0 news on when horb will be re-accessible

if you saw a post saying in the future and its not mentioned in cn then it is almost garunteed to be a leak or misinformation

[restive veldt]

Idk I trusted it becuz it came from here
I may also have misunderstood tho

[sweet flax]

do you have the message?

or know who sent it

[restive veldt]

Don't rmb

[sweet flax]

anyways, try to avoid spreading that as its very untrue at the moment, future patch info will always be shown in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion when cn gets the news (as cn is 4 weeks ahead)
anything not mentioned there are more than likely to be leaks or just false rumors

[restive veldt]

Ok anyway w my roster how shld I progress from here on?

[sweet flax]

already did your carnival pulls?

[restive veldt]

Yep

I got nth

[sweet flax]

crystal count?

[restive veldt]

1664 atm. On paladin bp

[sweet flax]

then just save

[restive veldt]

I have this thing

[sweet flax]

preferably you'd wanna unlock dkeys from the weapons tab in the reserve shop

[restive veldt]

is hohe stamps a bad idea?

[sweet flax]

but if you have any personal wants those can come first but do note almost everything there is farmable

[sweet flax]

id say it depends a lot

what's your current hohe rank

[restive veldt]

I only got the p1 kit

[restive veldt]

S.

[sweet flax]

oh no dkey? nvm dont need to bother tbh

does your thel have weapon?

[restive veldt]

Yes

My part 2 valk all have full kit. Except vita. She came from the free returnee banner pulls

[sweet flax]

there wasnt a vita in the image you sent lol

[restive veldt]

Sorry I meant lantern. I mixed them up

[sweet flax]

anyways, hohe ranks dont matter if she isnt gonna have any use cases due to a lack of dkey

the dkey itself isnt worth pulling as hohe is.... mediocre at best with the dkey

[restive veldt]

Damn so my waifu gonna rot in the shelf now?

[sweet flax]

yes

but anyways crystals wise id save the crystals till next patch, 2k's not gonna get you much

as for the crystallum in bp, you can always hold onto it if you'd like
if you have any competitive goals I would prioritise the dkeys in there that arent farmable

[restive veldt]

not competitive.

[sweet flax]

no worries, your choice on how to spend the crystallum then just keep in mind almost everything in there is farmable except for select weapons/stigmatas and I think only vv

[keen pilot]

4 patches or 4 months?

[sweet flax]

4 weeks, my bad

[keen pilot]

oh i thougut it would be 4 months cuz anniversary for cn and global are 4 months apart

[sweet flax]

glb anni is on cny, cn has their own anni that we share rewards with

[restive veldt]

is there a priority order for this?

[sweet flax]

not really, worth noting 7t has some ma uses that requires very very specific gear, rots and ranks which isnt realistically achievable in a short time
abyss flower and fenghuang down require their foundry counterpart to sync for the atk bonus

[restive veldt]

i alr have 7t. fenghuang and judah

[serene crystal]

Abyss and fenghuang pinions are the foundry counterparts

[restive veldt]

Oh and what do u rec I pick for this?

[frozen crypt]

unlock nyx

[restive veldt]

hol up how ur name-

[frozen crypt]

not much benefit to ranking any of these up

[serene crystal]

They have no meta usage so are only useful for ER crystals and are farmable from war treasury anyways so it doesn't really matter, just take Nyx to cut down on the farming necessary.

[restive veldt]

tyty

[gloomy oriole]

what team should i make out of this roster
rn i have elysia sugary starburst and calico on a team
im
poor character wise i started 5 days ago

[odd plume]

there are several options

[deep dew]

is there a way I can get FHM and Theresa gluttony if i dont have newbie reward anymore?

[serene crystal]

Both should available from foundry under basic stigmata.
I would not recommend getting FHM without newbie rewards however.

[peak adder]

Is she good

[eternal pond]

Just did painter ladies Elysian realm thing that's supposed to give crystals, it didn't give me any crystals

[storm lantern]

no

[eternal pond]

I think I may have found myself a bug

✌️

[deep dew]

um then is there any alternative for FHM to use on RC?

I got theresa but couldnt afford FHM

[prisma oyster]

can i see what stigs do u have

[deep dew]

i dont have tm stigs so im thinking of forging

[quick birch]

You can just use the stigs I have on VBm( Roald amundsen 3pc )in the guide since your VBm would want tsiolkovsky

[deep dew]

should i upgrade the roald amundsen stigs?

[quick birch]

No need to, you're using it for it's 3pc and that does not increase with stig level

[fierce cave]

I recently came back to the game after like a long while, is there any recommendations on where to start 😭

[glad ice]

best recommendation is to reroll

[fierce cave]

What's th

[glad ice]

u can reach 60 in 1 day

[prisma oyster]

make a new account

[fierce cave]

Oh fr😮‍💨

[glad ice]

sr i didnt see sena

[fierce cave]

So I just make a new account?

That it

[glad ice]

best

[prisma oyster]

id personally say yes

ur acc is veryyy behind

[fierce cave]

Oh. Is the power creep in this game as bad as starrail

[prisma oyster]

hell no

[sweet flax]

best start would be fws + hle + hle weapon