👶beginner-help

[left vale]

there's no way it's 750 i'd have more

[wintry juniper]

you probably didn't buy all

[left vale]

oh i bought locks nvm

[wintry juniper]

[left vale]

because those are insanely scarce too

🙂

[wintry juniper]

provided you use them alot

[glad ice]

yeah my AW is now wasted on wafer

[left vale]

im deadass sick of being poor on every mat

[glad ice]

too

[left vale]

i wish i had an overflow but instead i just have barely enough every patch

[wintry juniper]

I'm a hoarder so I don't feel that way

[left vale]

torus is probably the only thing that's not scarce rn and that's about to change next patch

[wintry juniper]

oh is it?

is it big change or nah

[left vale]

yeah because ||i have to level up 2 pri arms||

[wintry juniper]

I'm lazy to check cn channel

oh

[left vale]

gonna be scarce on torus too

[wintry juniper]

I have 1.5k torus

[left vale]

i have legit no matz

[wintry juniper]

so I'm fine

[left vale]

only 10m coins too

[ancient needle]

Now imagine being above Agony

[left vale]

how many coins is it to level up a valk + gear?

[ancient needle]

7-8 mils

[left vale]

lmao bro

im going to run out of coins next patch

[wintry juniper]

not really

[left vale]

this is actually ridiculous

[wintry juniper]

if you got the gear and stuff

[sweet flax]

how does one run out of ocins in the big 2025

[wintry juniper]

they refund some coins back

do more Open World

[left vale]

i dont even know anymore

[wintry juniper]

you'll get coins back

[ancient needle]

Actually nvm, it's 5-6 mils with the discount

[wintry juniper]

I have 97M rn and I feel broke

considering I had 150M at one point before p2

[ancient needle]

Buying NCCs

[wintry juniper]

[left vale]

no asterite either

[wintry juniper]

I have 120k aster, 100k ncc

[left vale]

must be nice

[wintry juniper]

I don't buy the ncc with coins

I buy with aster

[left vale]

i have 400 asterite and 6.6k ncc

[wintry juniper]

you're overaffixing

idk what to say

[left vale]

i can't not affix

[ancient needle]

I wanna max all farmable stuff first

[wintry juniper]

wdym farmable

oh the Sp valks?

[ancient needle]

Rn it's regular A-ranks

[left vale]

i have to buy sc metal with asterite too

[ancient needle]

Then Augments

Then ELFs

[ancient needle]

(JWW and BE)

[wintry juniper]

wait wha....

[ancient needle]

Same

[wintry juniper]

that's the last thing you should be suffering

[left vale]

is there a way to not be extremely low on every material that's not just skipping valks

[glad ice]

sc metal is bought with asterite, its the only way

[wintry juniper]

idk, I skip valks :P

can't relate

[ancient needle]

||1040 Metals for next patch, needing extra is normal||

[left vale]

oh my god bro

[wintry juniper]

I don't buy it once

[left vale]

im just beyond fucked

[upbeat egret]

I still don't understand how peeps can run out of coins tbh

[wintry juniper]

ncc

[glad ice]

unless u have paid bp

[wintry juniper]

nope, f2p

[outer spruce]

use witch orbs for ncc

[ancient needle]

Are you at least salvaging your ASMs

[upbeat egret]

What ncc... don't tell me u buy ncc for 50 million coins

[ancient needle]

I do

[left vale]

i cant salvage my asms bro

[ancient needle]

I have no choice xdd

[left vale]

i literally cant i dont have any excess to be able to

[glad ice]

then i guess u have a lot of lvl50 priarm

[wintry juniper]

huhh

[sweet flax]

I mean after 13 days of ncc that's 50 mil already

[wintry juniper]

ok that's actually crazy

[ancient needle]

Gotta be buying them from the daily shop smh

[wintry juniper]

each patch you earn like 1k ASM

[left vale]

no the fuck you cannot 😭

[wintry juniper]

yes you can what

do you not buy from the shop either

[glad ice]

u do. u can farm 12 daily

[left vale]

yeah that'd be awesome if i could

[wintry juniper]

is that why

[outer spruce]

i have like over 800 and i sell them for asterite all the time

[ancient needle]

For coins lah

[wintry juniper]

no, with coins

[wraith brook]

coins?

[wintry juniper]

yes

[left vale]

where

[wintry juniper]

it's random

it's not guaranteed

[glad ice]

daily shop has discount. 160k for 5x asm

[left vale]

i cant afford that

[ancient needle]

Not buying B-rank frags either? Ainnoway

[left vale]

no i dont care to max out my b ranks

[ancient needle]

It's about Witch Orbs

[left vale]

waste of coins which are already scarce

[wintry juniper]

you should so you can get witch orbs for ncc

[glad ice]

btw u shouldnt be lacking on asm

[wraith brook]

so we rly need to do it

[wintry juniper]

which you can save coins for not buying ncc

[glad ice]

u farm 12 daily

[left vale]

i cant afford 160k coins per day

[ancient needle]

Yeah, it's a good idea

[wintry juniper]

well, if you need the orbs yes

[glad ice]

u should halt ur ncc shopping ig

[wintry juniper]

I only started to not salvage them the start of this year, which is at best 90+ days

21.7k orbs

[left vale]

lmao

[wintry juniper]

this from MA should also supply more frags

[left vale]

these are all my SSS valks

[wintry juniper]

to salvage

as I've said

I'm a hoarder

so I SSS every farmable valk

[left vale]

nvm theres 4 more

[wintry juniper]

I literally got nth to farm atm

[wraith brook]

Just do it for not reason but not sure if it good

[rugged compass]

Real <3

[glad ice]

well i do one set of coin expedition per day too

[wintry juniper]

even the Himekos are done

[ancient needle]

Dayum, even BS?

[outer spruce]

orbs are good

[wintry juniper]

all B and A ranks are SSS

except for Asuka

[ancient needle]

Gotta invent a time machine

To commit to the bit

[wintry juniper]

WT valks only LE, FT, KMB, PX, FR, JK and MPE iirc

[glad ice]

all my purple witch orb turn into ncc at the end of the day lol

[wintry juniper]

oh wait

TP and Sirin

forgot

AKA also maxed

[ancient needle]

How are you farming PWO

Or are you not

[wintry juniper]

I don't

I can if I want

[ancient needle]

So slacc

[left vale]

i have 1 single SSS S valk

[wintry juniper]

but idk who to grab

[wintry juniper]

none of the valks are worth

[left vale]

i dont even know how im supposed to SSS valks when i have no AW income or any asterite to spend on SP valks

like wtf do i even do genuinely

[wintry juniper]

is HoFin worth

if so I'll get S1 rn

and S2 prob in 2 weeks

[left vale]

S2 is p worth

[wraith brook]

Is it bad?

[glad ice]

funny but my asterite income is dorm errand/shop

[wintry juniper]

not bad for that low of atk honestly

imo if you're within 2% range on the leaderboard you're more than fine

I don't mean the leaderboard per boss

I meant overall

[left vale]

i dont even have that

is there a way to fix this??

[wintry juniper]

I can't even spend aster faster than I earn

you use all this boxes as well Styxx?

[ancient needle]

Pls don't tell me you take Shifters from them

[wintry juniper]

I do

[left vale]

i take sc metal from that

[wintry juniper]

I salvage shifters

but lazy so I stock now

[glad ice]

i sometimes buy sc metal and the weekly 3 ncc gacha boxes

[wraith brook]

huh

[left vale]

where's that from tho

[wintry juniper]

considering realms also give shifters I should salvage that instaed

[wintry juniper]

Abyss reward

[left vale]

i thought that was AW + torus box

[wintry juniper]

no?

oh it is

wait idk where I get this lol

[rugged compass]

I got, GD, CE, VBS, VBM, SSB, TA, JK, SI, RC, SnS, PV, snyx, px, HoTF/VA, HB, DK/YA, LE, StFu/VB, SD/DS, CI, SJ, DP (kiana), and VD/VR

[left vale]

how do i fix my situation

[wintry juniper]

welll

time works

let's start from there

shall we

[left vale]

time works??

[wintry juniper]

ya

[upbeat egret]

I wish I could use the matz in have...
I have too much

[wraith brook]

should i use ULT corile for buff?
or i get it from HOLDING?
in AO

[wintry juniper]

it has a 20 attempt limit per week

[left vale]

i already maxed that

i dont have enough hoho tickets to be doing 20 per week

[wintry juniper]

it uses stam

not tickets

[left vale]

it uses hoho tickets

if you do the ahead

[wintry juniper]

yea and you do that?

enemy is like 2 hit from any valk

[left vale]

you have to use hoho tickets to lite it

[wintry juniper]

to die

yea do it manually

[left vale]

im not fuckin doing that manually

[wintry juniper]

lite doesn't fully clear it

jsyk

if you miss 1 day that is

[left vale]

and anyway i still dont have enough asterite with that

[wintry juniper]

do drift world with planeroids

I did this for 1 week during the Sp valk phase

which require like 480k asterite

you can't be complaining rn since back then there's no lite

considering I have so much stam I'm doing it anyways

[left vale]

yeah about that

im low on stamina too

[ancient needle]

How are you low on Stamina 😭

[outer spruce]

how

[left vale]

i have no potions

[wintry juniper]

they increase stam cap

[outer spruce]

stamina grow on trees

[wintry juniper]

I actually can't use them fully ever

[left vale]

i just got 8 potions from the free pull on outfit banner

thats all i have

[ancient needle]

Even before the increase you should have more than enough

[wintry juniper]

I never use those before

well I did years ago

but I have 309 rn

[left vale]

im doing expeditions

[wintry juniper]

of those potions

I also do it

[left vale]

for orbs
YA

[wintry juniper]

but I only do for the story quest clear

wait YA?

[left vale]

i do YA expedition for orbs

[wintry juniper]

I honestly think you're finding short term solutions

[left vale]

its orb income

why would i not do it

[wintry juniper]

my long term was to get SSS rank for the valks with the lowest stam cost on their expedition

[left vale]

i have literally no other way to get purple orbs

[wintry juniper]

YA wasn't the lowest

there's one that uses 12 stam

[left vale]

YA uses 12

VC does too

[wintry juniper]

do you clear up all the exped per day?

is that why you have no stam

[left vale]

no

i only do like 3

[wintry juniper]

same

how much alloy fluid you got

[left vale]

between tasks YA frags and material event its a lot of stamina

[left vale]

1

[wintry juniper]

it's below 240

not the purple one

I meant the blue one

[left vale]

yes, 1

[wintry juniper]

[left vale]

i already salvage those for coins

[wintry juniper]

what do you go for in Open World

[left vale]

tasks?

[wintry juniper]

ya as in what material you typically choose

or you just select lowest stam cost

[left vale]

AE and crystals

[wintry juniper]

do you lack honkai shard?

[left vale]

yes

i have 3 honkai shards

[wintry juniper]

I assume you also use the A rank eggs from MA

[left vale]

yep

[wintry juniper]

that should be the main source of orbs ngl

what about realm of battle, the boxes

do you salvage the jades for asterite?

[left vale]

i have to use them to get spirit jades

did i mention my dkeys arent maxed

[outer spruce]

still?

[left vale]

i mean it's really just the useless skills

[wraith brook]

i guess its something ureal to me

[left vale]

i have all the ele% ones

[wintry juniper]

get the phys% and you're fine already

[left vale]

i just dont have the right ones maxed
do those matter

[wintry juniper]

crit rate is useless

sp/s is useless for p2 teams

[left vale]

so can i stop leveling dkeys then

[wintry juniper]

and burst dmg is also kinda useless since almost no valks have burst now ;v

[wintry juniper]

phys lightning fire ice are the only ones that matter the most

[left vale]

but i kinda also need phase shifters and operation terminals

[wintry juniper]

I need to find out where I get the material type box

[glad ice]

7% range is fine

[left vale]

ive had that box before

i dont remember how

[wintry juniper]

neither do I

game doesn't tell either

[left vale]

guess its unobtainable

[wintry juniper]

unsure where it used to be from

as for shifters

[wraith brook]

Is there sense be near nirvana, since i have nothing to play it?

[wintry juniper]

pretty sure you can have enough from ER and other normal sources no?

[left vale]

evidently not 😭

[wintry juniper]

it is enuf by math alone

[left vale]

then why dont i have enough

i have 61

[wintry juniper]

fine to stay in RL if you got nth for the next boss

[ancient needle]

I mean, you'll stay in RL regardless after this cycle

[wintry juniper]

yea I also realized

[wintry juniper]

I wish I can donate some to you

I've been salvaging shifters

[left vale]

im literally just fucked

like idk what to do 😭

[wintry juniper]

have you salvaged any 3* stigs

[left vale]

i have none

[wintry juniper]

ok :P

[dry python]

Who the heck runs out of shifters in the big 25

[wintry juniper]

I'm trying to find where I earn mine

[wraith brook]

i mean if there since to
nvm i just not do side stage to not get t1
sry and thanks.

[wintry juniper]

do you always clear the event shop

I assume you do

[left vale]

i dont do events

[wintry juniper]

no wonder

[ancient needle]

Wtf

[wintry juniper]

there you go

that's the answer

[dry python]

Lol.

[left vale]

maybe i should start doing them but theyre unbearable for me

[wintry juniper]

all the materials you need

are in events

I do mean ALL

[left vale]

if i do them i just burn out and then its back to square 1

[dry python]

Events only give like 30 shifters tho

[wintry juniper]

Shifters, Torus, ASM, AL, coins etc

[wintry juniper]

ya and styxx never done one

[dry python]

Also the events are fun

[wintry juniper]

think of the total amount

[wraith brook]

@ancient needle do i need to use tickeck for spending?

[wintry juniper]

assume styxx skip 20 events

[left vale]

no they arent

[wintry juniper]

that's 600 shifters

[ancient needle]

What tickets

[dry python]

That's 20 patches tho

[wraith brook]

for valk

[outer spruce]

events are mainly for mats

[dry python]

Like you get one main event per patch

[left vale]

not for me
theyre unbelievably boring and i cant do them without hating myself and the game theyre so fucking boring

[wintry juniper]

styxx never done one, sounds logical

[dry python]

God forbid you have to play the game

Lol

Anyway

[wintry juniper]

and also

styxx isn't just lacking shifters

she's lacking everything

[left vale]

god forbid i have to play events like seriously

[wintry juniper]

coins, ASM, torus, sc metal etc

[ancient needle]

Can you rephrase the question

[dry python]

Yeah but 600 shifters over 20 patches isn't a lot

[wintry juniper]

honkai shards

[outer spruce]

you kinda do

[dry python]

Esp with patches being 9 weeks

[wintry juniper]

ask styxx who currently has 61 shifters

[dry python]

[wintry juniper]

maybe if she did events she'll have 661 rn

[left vale]

the only event i did was the schicksal one

[wraith brook]

Wich core we use for FDD?

[wintry juniper]

do the math styxx

[dry python]

Wtf Ken didn't buy locks immediately

[wintry juniper]

idk how many events you missed but

[wintry juniper]

I haven't even play

wha

[left vale]

they're so boring tho bro

[dry python]

I went into the event day 1 to get the locks

[wintry juniper]

I have 2k locks

I'm fine

[dry python]

Whel

[left vale]

every event is literally the same thing reskinned

[wintry juniper]

well suck it up

do it for the mats

[left vale]

they're so unbelievably boring i just burnout the minute i finish it

[wintry juniper]

no choice buddy

[dry python]

Spoken like someone who hasn't played one in 20 patches

[wintry juniper]

I always delay events but the dailies can really just make me hate life

[outer spruce]

you got time

[wintry juniper]

time isn't the issue

[wraith brook]

Cant use crystals and dont have enough to buy box
so can i use tickets for this?

[left vale]

they're all just chibi shit it's unbearably boring
they can't make anything unique

[outer spruce]

no just do it little by little

[ancient needle]

Even if you do use them you won't get enough

Also the box is not necessary for your goals specifically

[outer spruce]

well yeah most of the events are just copies of other games

[wintry juniper]

considering I've experienced everything Hi3 has (except for BP and being a whel) I know how it is to not want to do events because it's either too wordy, too lengthy, too boring (either rerun or it's just a reskin) or it's frustrating

[wintry juniper]

chibi isn't the problem, I always find myself unable to play if the gameplay aspect is timegate

like having a daily is actually annoying

[dry python]

Ken is whel

[wraith brook]

what my goal then?
I thought u say about divine box

[wintry juniper]

I prefer to do the event on the last day

but game says no

I've said this too many times so I'm not saying it again

[left vale]

almost tempted to just start whaling matz so i dont have to do events

[wintry juniper]

I do think the game has already made it to the point that you don't really need to play the game 1hr daily

[left vale]

thats how much i hate them

[wintry juniper]

don't forget that MA back then had only 6 attempts daily

[left vale]

it's still only 6 daily

[wintry juniper]

look how far it has come

[dry python]

Atp just don't play the game

[wintry juniper]

it's not

6 attempts max per day

it doesn't exceed 6

[dry python]

Lol yeah

So weird

[wintry juniper]

there was no lite as well

[dry python]

Remember lite events

[wintry juniper]

but events never change

they did change the shop tho

[left vale]

the schicksal event was p fun

[wintry juniper]

back then you can accidentally overbuy the coins and have no currencies for the other stuff

[wraith brook]

@ancient needle sry for not ping

[left vale]

i think that's the only time i've ever had fun in an event

[wintry juniper]

idk what schicksal event

[left vale]

the one for SImp release

7.6 event i think

[wintry juniper]

the one with Otto?

idk which is which

[left vale]

no

i dont even remember it was just fun lmao

whichever one had the sena outfit wasn't totally unbearable too

[wintry juniper]

were you playing when event shop had unlimited exchange for coins?

[ancient needle]

Well, you did say you just wanna chill in RL, and dkeys don't matter there as much

[left vale]

i wouldnt know if i were or not

[ancient needle]

• you'll need to dump a lot of pulls

[ancient needle]

Which risks you getting another copy of valk/weap and resetting the pity

[wintry juniper]

then you definitely wasn't playing when it existed

[left vale]

ive been playing since 7.0

[dry python]

I was

[wintry juniper]

yea it's way before that

event shop was horrible back then

each event has a daily, and you can exchange for coins with no limit

so it end up having so many players exchanging coins thinking they have enough for the other materials

but they don't

[wraith brook]

oh
thanks
so i just ignore tha event?

[left vale]

i want events like HSR

[wintry juniper]

and I can't even blame them, any other events from other hoyo games never did this before

[left vale]

HSR events are so so so fun but theyre hit or miss if they end up being fun or not

the restaurant event for HSR this patch is very fun

[wintry juniper]

it's only hi3 where you can't play event on the last day and get everything in the shop

only in hi3

[ancient needle]

Yes

[left vale]

i wish they will do a whole game revamp but i know HI3 is too dead for that

[ancient needle]

Knowing Hoyo's recent games I'm glad they're not revamping it

[left vale]

i can still hope that a new endgame comes tho

[outer spruce]

fall girls endgame trust

[ancient needle]

[wintry juniper]

pls don't

that event was fun the 1st time

[flint stream]

[wintry juniper]

reruns weren't fun

[wraith brook]

what is that?

[wintry juniper]

you know fall guys the game?

basically that but in Hi3 as an event

[wraith brook]

oh

we have it only once?

[wintry juniper]

it was popular on the 1st time it had it

they rerun it 2 or 3 more times

1st time it appear, the leaderboard was crazy

[wraith brook]

oh well, guess i skip them all

[wintry juniper]

there's 1 SEA player who got like 80k points

when the point required to max the event is 5k

so you can tell how much that guy played

I got around 22k points only top 20

[glad ice]

he likes to play fallgirl

[wintry juniper]

the reruns were like only 10k points

see the dropoff

by the last fall girls event, leaderboard were 6k-8k

[wraith brook]

dropoff?

[wintry juniper]

yea ppl felt bored because it's just a repeat of the same event

with slightly different maps

[wraith brook]

dropoff mean - not popularity?

[wintry juniper]

the points earned

you only need 5000 to clear the event, ppl were constantly playing and got like 80,000 because it was fun on the 1st time it appear

[left vale]

eh new event is not that bad

[wintry juniper]

it's cute for sure

[left vale]

maybe im just motivated cuz i rlly like FCs and want the thele outfit

[wintry juniper]

and it's Elysia

ironic you have that pfp

and not play the event

[left vale]

it's cute

[wintry juniper]

don't have to tell me twice

[left vale]

found it on pinterest
waiting for someone to make ||HLE|| fanart so i can have a new pfp

[wintry juniper]

when pardo exists in an event

I'm playing it

[wintry juniper]

it's the pic from the event lol

[left vale]

it's not ||HLE|| fanart

[wintry juniper]

ik it's not

[left vale]

it's just regular ely

[wintry juniper]

dw ppl will draw it soon

[left vale]

MPE with summer outfit

[left vale]

i hope they cook up something good

[wintry juniper]

pixiv

[left vale]

i haven't seen one that's PFP worthy so far

they're all... well

nvm i found one

no i didnt

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/what-wtf-eyes-look-phone-gif-3927559383930151204

[wraith brook]

guess it good decision, if look back on how bad i was on Litost boss

Do i need buy that ALL?

[wintry juniper]

[lyric anvil]

Did not know DW had stamps in there

[wintry juniper]

recently added for sure

[lyric anvil]

Probably

[outer spruce]

no reason to buy stamps for characters you don't use

or have

[wraith brook]

i mean, even so,
do i need farm that much for future, but guess i can just farm week reward and not do athoer 3 runs

thanks

[lyric anvil]

Added last patch then they put in more this patch

[wintry juniper]

yea it's normal for them to do this, they did this for every stamp in ER

[lyric anvil]

Interesting

[wraith brook]

More i not sure if i need use someone i have there,
Like Senti or HoFs

[lyric anvil]

Wonder who would be next for stamps

[left vale]

it should be HoRb

[wraith brook]

it have no order?

[wintry juniper]

yea should be HoRb

[left vale]

but they dont seem to be going by any order so it can really be anybody

[lyric anvil]

HoRb a patch after DW?

[left vale]

HoTr/HoFi is possible

[wintry juniper]

wdym not going any order

[left vale]

or HoHE

[left vale]

i mean look at the shop lol

[wintry juniper]

I mean

[left vale]

just a big mix

[wintry juniper]

kinda but also not really

[left vale]

logically it's HoRb HoHE HoFi or HoTr but hoyo-ly it's HC or some shit

[wintry juniper]

oh right VV

forgot about her

[left vale]

i hope it's horb i want her ss

[wintry juniper]

doubt they doing that

[left vale]

shhh dont snuff my dreams

[wintry juniper]

they'll probably do it after HoFin gets added

they'll add HoRb into PWO like 3 patch after next patch or smth

[left vale]

[wintry juniper]

[lyric anvil]

If they do HoRb stamps next in ER shop, ||Would be useful due to next patch||

[wintry juniper]

never happen before, so don't cope too hard

[lyric anvil]

Ik

[pliant iris]

Is this unlocked automatically later on or there's a way to pass bc sakura's blade isn't blading

[glad ice]

spoiler but u need to build sakura wooden horse for that

[pliant iris]

Tysm

[glad ice]

the wooden horses are actually gates standing behind daily farm btw

need a lot of materials

and u need them for a lot of contents

[pliant iris]

[glad ice]

yeah we all hate event daily farming lol

[gusty pewter]

can anyone help with the new event?? i asked in gameplay help but no response 🥲

[glad ice]

puzzles arent that hard lol

[gusty pewter]

i have one chest left cus i can t get to an area and can t figure out how

i ve done all the puzzles afaik and maxed everything else out

[glad ice]

which area

[wintry juniper]

someone replied to you in gameplay help now

try that and see if it works

[gusty pewter]

i just saw!! thank you 🫶

[trim matrix]

Lv 70 -80 abyss d470 fdd vbm and vita, vbm lvl 35 wep fhm and glut t, vita and fdd priarm wep leveled stigmata, taking me at least a minute to clear each floor, is that normal?

[ancient needle]

Could be normal, it's best if you record a run though

Also Vita DPS should be better

[trim matrix]

How would I play vita dps? Also i recorded a run but cant send it becuase file size is too large;;;

[ancient needle]

Upload it to YT

You can make it unlisted

[glad ice]

vita dps rot in her tutorial stage...

[ancient needle]

Can depend on the weather though

[ancient needle]

(just don't do her non-mech sequence)

[trim matrix]

Ok ty

[glad ice]

shit im old

[wintry juniper]

I played earlier than you by a few days but I didn't login as much

I'm like 300 days behind

[left vale]

god damn old ass

[glad ice]

shaddap

[left vale]

mine is 668 if i logged in every day since i started

[glad ice]

how to turn coins into asterite

u can buy asm and shifter from armada shop too

armada fuka is actually a good name

[ancient needle]

Decided to check for funsies, and holy shit

I didn't skip a single day

I don't take my medications as regularly xdd

[wintry wharf]

i dun think if u skip a day it resets

[ancient needle]

Yes, I meant that the amount of days I've logged in and the actual amount of days between first login and today are the same

[wintry wharf]

oh me i lost months seems

[wintry juniper]

that's crazy

[rugged compass]

Same

[slim blaze]

Old man

Peak fossil

[wind pollen]

What p1 valks are still worth investing into

[ancient needle]

Depends on what you mean by "invest"

And on what you alr have

[wispy aurora]

Is there much point of me getting the 5 Rank up stamps in the store for HoHe?

[shell basin]

If you have her dkey sure

[ancient needle]

Do you have the rest of her team?

||And are you pulling 8.5?||

You want to get her at least to SS

[wispy aurora]

||Yeah, hence me asking if its worth it or not||

[ancient needle]

||Well, 8.5 doesn't replace HoHE, might be quite the opposite, an upgrade||

[wispy aurora]

||So if its an upgrade ov er HoHe it worth using my SD to get HoHe to s2||

[ancient needle]

||No, I meant that she might be an upgrade for HoHE||

[wispy aurora]

||Ohh so BiS?||

[ancient needle]

Potentially, yes

[wispy aurora]

Right

[ancient needle]

What about your PWOs though

As I've said before you really want SS

[wispy aurora]

Drawing a blank here PWOs?

[ancient needle]

Pure Witch Orbs

[wispy aurora]

I don't have access to PWO

[ancient needle]

[wispy aurora]

The only SSS I have and close to

[ancient needle]

For PWOs you need an SSS S-rank

Anyway, do you have Sena/Vita Thele rn?

[lyric anvil]

Someone from WT SSS pretty much

[wispy aurora]

No sena

**Both S **

Vita 4/4
Thelema 4/4

[ancient needle]

In that case you can consider getting her to S2 if you actually struggle on HoHE cycles

[wispy aurora]

Ice is always a bad one for me

[ancient needle]

So try at S0 first, then get S2 if you think it's absolutely necessary

Gotta be farming up them LE frags though

[wispy aurora]

3/30 to s2

[ancient needle]

Gotta be buying a lot more

[wispy aurora]

Im Missing so many other characters especially for ER

I do have the gold egg and the character box from 2 patches ago

[dire cairn]

So this is my current p2 roster all have weapons. If we consider I can get any 2 of the following within the current and next patch with weapons between || dragon Coralie, badum, p2 Shushang and new Elysia|| which 2 is the best combination for me to get? Saving for future one instead also an option

Oh I also have hofi with dkey

But not hohe tho

Nor anything notable pre p2

[ancient needle]

Definitely the 8.5 valk

I don't think backpulling FDD is worth atp

[dire cairn]

And no one else? Save instead?

[ancient needle]

You could consider it if 8.6 turns out to be skippable ig

[ancient needle]

But I doubt it

[sweet flax]

been a while since a skippable valk surely we get another break soon

[lyric anvil]

I hope so

[wispy aurora]

Word is we won't

[sweet flax]

unless the word comes from hoyo it has no merit

[ancient needle]

Surely

[wispy aurora]

There isn't any leaks or if there is it's not spread a lot

[sweet flax]

not like discussion of leaks is ToS friendly around these parts

[wispy aurora]

But knowing how Hoyo games are unless its ZZZ. HI3 and HSR seems to be pulls constantly

[sweet flax]

you never know

[wispy aurora]

True

[sweet flax]

we had sparkle followed by mini dudu

then patches got longer

[wispy aurora]

Sparkle was meta, no?

same with dudu?

[ancient needle]

Depends on your definition of "meta"

[sweet flax]

she was terrible in release, loa didnt come out yet so we didnt know if she had potential to be good

[ancient needle]

We haven't had valks that topscored nothing in years

[sweet flax]

also dudu was a meh pull

[lyric anvil]

Badum was better

[sweet flax]

decent niches for newer players, wtvr for older players

8.1 was also cny, so the consensus was "wait for news on that, because the valk might be broken"

[wispy aurora]

I though dudu was for IMG and shield

[ancient needle]

A certain flavor of IMG

[lyric anvil]

Stun also

[sweet flax]

that was senti weather

dudu is just BiS for p1 physical weathers

[lyric anvil]

True

[sweet flax]

keep in mind that for majority of img content, you could always rely on trio
older players skipped dudu (unless you have reasons for pulling her)

[wispy aurora]

With how 8.5 seems to be 8.6 be skip

[sweet flax]

also that shield arguement died literally the next patch

[wispy aurora]

If only I had trio 😭

[sweet flax]

.

[wispy aurora]

Oh I read that, I was just saying

If 8.6 does turn out to be a skip I'll gladly take it as I've been in that boat of having no choice but to pull to flesh out teams

[slim blaze]

20k and a dream

[wispy aurora]

For spending?

[sweet flax]

what do you have now

[sweet flax]

I meant p2 but sure

[wispy aurora]

Eh too late now

[sweet flax]

how many crystals now?

[wispy aurora]

41,275

[sweet flax]

gg you are more than fine

everyone has their weapons?

[wispy aurora]

For P2 characters? if so

Sonq ❌
A-Rank Hellia ❌

Rest of them

[sweet flax]

not like jds needs her weapon to support in loa

and a rank helia is ass anyways

[wispy aurora]

Still would be nice to have JDS wep

[sweet flax]

ye but it only affects her dps, outside a small total dmg buff during so

[wispy aurora]

Thats fair. I was debating to pull for it on the rerun banner later in the patch

[sweet flax]

nah I wouldnt

there's no situation where you'd benefit from pulling it

[wispy aurora]

Gotcha

[sweet flax]

as a dps she lacks weathers, as a support loa is going to slowly start dying since goi is now out, and the weapon has barely any supportive utility

[wispy aurora]

Thats fair

In that case I need ot hope Chenxue gets a rerun next patch so I can SS her

[lyric anvil]

Fish Skip also forever gone.

[wispy aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-goodbye-gif-21509149

[wispy aurora]

||So in this case I should pull 8.5 Character and D-Key and if need to spend more for event SS Chenxue||

[sweet flax]

||right now the goal is 8.5, if you plan on being competitive a dkey will always be appreciated and since you have horb you will benefit from it massively as you also have all the latest units, only issue will be horb dps weathers where you will be competing against ranked horbs ||

[wispy aurora]

Worth +1 or 2 wep?

[sweet flax]

dont pull for syncs, that's whel territory

[wispy aurora]

Just making sure

[sweet flax]

if you get a dupe from a 10 pull, nice, otherwise dont actively chase for it

[lyric anvil]

||Her DMG is ridiculous on SK||

[sweet flax]

||can be a consideration if you need the spending event points and have crystals laying around but eh...||

[wispy aurora]

||With the spending event seeing as I have the character on it, Would it be worth pulling for Thelema Stamps?||

[sweet flax]

||need to see how thelema's situation develops next patch, with hohe having basically no weathers appearing thel's current use cases are beyond limited||

[wispy aurora]

||As I don't have sena seems like the only option||

[sweet flax]

better to wait and see

[wispy aurora]

True its not like I have to use thre rewards straight away

[small willow]

Captain, please do not mention or hint at any TOS violating talk. Asking about leaks are not allowed. AI chan will microwave you!

[lyric anvil]

[wispy aurora]

But I wasn't talking about L***s. I was joking about how so far we haven't had a skip patch 😭

[sweet flax]

its just a warning to be safe

[wraith brook]

[grizzled raven]

Hi. Sometimes newer players cannot tell the difference in meaning between the word "spoilers" and "leaks", some other people use the word because it is funny. The same applies. Jokes doesn't let you bypass it.
AI chan is being very nice there.

[lime talon]

which advenutre task world can give stigmata resonance

[outer spruce]

all of them, you get 240 every week from them

[lime talon]

oh none of like mission rewards?

[outer spruce]

no, you get them from weekly reset, not from the missions themselves

[lime talon]

ok and which gives best rewards? i just lite it every week

[outer spruce]

apho 1 and 2 are said to give the best rewards

[lime talon]

oh theres apho 2?

[outer spruce]

yeah there's a 2

[lime talon]

lmao i didn't know there adventure task there, i skiped it and went straight to schiksical and sakura samsara somehow

[outer spruce]

yeah they all give adventure tasks

[lime talon]

anymore worlds im missing?

[outer spruce]

there's only 4, samsara, schicksal, apho 1 and 2

[dry python]

Why does that matter

[lyric anvil]

Probably don't

[whole bloom]

Who should I pull for next patch (gameplay wise,not damage) New ely or horb?

[lyric anvil]

Spoiler, and depends on your current funds

[whole bloom]

Just enough to get 1 char and they weapon

[sweet flax]

spoiler tag, also if you are able to afford the new debut valk always get her

||dkey valks dont have a good track record generally speaking , hofi was very long lasting and viable in many scenarios, while hohe has been underwhelming to say the least, so its hard to tell with horb dkey until the future||

[steep drift]

where on the island do I use this cat summon?

[jolly pulsar]

why do you think hohe was underwhelimng?

[outer spruce]

you don't use it there

did you get that chest that was surrounded by trees?

also if you're having trouble looking for treasure chests, vill-v sells a treasure chest detector in her shop

[steep drift]

No
So ig I’ll use the detector

[outer spruce]

there's a chest by that spot where you had to use a stump to climb up to get something

that's where you use inkspot,if you haven't used inkspot there already

[sweet flax]

lack of BiS cases in loa, infact she was a pretty shit loa support compared to other options
not as commonly re-occuring ice weathers, extremely reliant on having thelema as well to perform well in said weathers
even for goi she isnt necessarily a bad option, but for paws not among the first go to options , have to see how she develops with goi though

[shadow gyro]

she'll have to face a fierce competition because fdd secured herself a slot in goi but yeah.... feels bad for hohe..

[dry python]

Smh newgen can't look past hofi dkey /j

[sweet flax]

calling me newgen is wild grandpa

[dry python]

Am I wrong

[sweet flax]

yes?

[dry python]

Shit

[sweet flax]

[dry python]

Idk when you started tbh

[sweet flax]

since release lol, just restarted during 6.7

although I have only been active on the server for like a year or two now

so that could be where the confusion is from

[dry python]

Well could be worse

The entire prof team forgot sairaan was na

[sweet flax]

lmfao

[warped geyser]

....67...?

[dry python]

Stop

[sweet flax]

. . .

[silver patio]

@left vale

[left vale]

yes

[silver patio]

Hey so uh

Its my birthday and i got money for level rush so… is there any 3rd party recharging site for that..? I cant do it in my ipad

[shell basin]

You can top up ingame or via the hoyolab website

[sweet flax]

they also have top up center links on hoyolab
seeing as you are in SEA, here's the link for the SEA one: https://sdk.hoyoverse.com/payment/hk3os/index.html#/

[spiral badge]

makes me wonder what server they think i was on

[sweet flax]

although I would like to ask, is there any specific reason you want to spend? if you have level rush available you are clearly a beginner so its best to know what you are spending to get

[spiral badge]

hohe support was notable for tank btw. Idk if i missed seeing that mentioned but that's still extremely niche ofc

[sweet flax]

probs should've mentioned it ye, but I think it was implied

[spiral badge]

that said, she's still a relatively cheap pick up for good enough support in the context of RL and below

but yes definitely underwhelming
-# you can't spell ely without L

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

I guess how low the bar can get with dkeys has been set with hohe

surely future ones will be above it :clueless:

[lyric anvil]

Highly doubt it

[dry python]

[slim blaze]

Wew

[simple bobcat]

is waxing moon worth it, i have hofi

[spiral badge]

assuming you're not a complete whale, i rather spend the 60 rolls/17k crystals at worst for some actual new release in the future instead

[simple bobcat]

im thinking that too but i like hofi so does she do anything outside of supporting vita and trio?

[sweet flax]

at this point no, to dps with her she needs trio
and vita dps weathers are not as frequent

[spiral badge]

supports hoo main dps too but that has kinda fallen off (unless you want to count people using it for SS sampo this week)

[simple bobcat]

yeah and i have dragon child and vbm anyways

[sweet flax]

fdd prefers paws and lp iirc as her supports

[spiral badge]

perhaps next patch ||we'll see a resurgence with HoRb dkey making her world star||

although it might be a niche one. hard to say for now

[simple bobcat]

i was maybe thinking if i want her for img content but idk thats also super rare

[sweet flax]

better to wait for a future img valk

[simple bobcat]

yeah

[lyric anvil]

Img flower or Dudu weather's usually
But yeah becoming more rarer

[sweet flax]

although keep in mind img and quantum valks dont have a good track record of being good outside img or quantum

[spiral badge]

we just had existentialism. you can go through the abyss schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins to assess how much you're really getting out of those crystals/pulls

and it's not going to be much. it's niche at this point

[simple bobcat]

|| i do plan on pulling new ely and horb weapon so i was just thinking about what do i need to be prepared for them||

[spiral badge]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[simple bobcat]

nono

[spiral badge]

you mean team wise?

[simple bobcat]

yeahh

[sweet flax]

can you send a picture of your units

so we can get an idea of what you have available

although generally speaking, ||you'd want units with the symbiosis tag for elysia and domain resonance for horb||

[spiral badge]

there's beta content out there now so you can try seeing how their matchups/new bosses are

for RL purposes and below i'm mainly am just going to care you match the ring types to the tags

[simple bobcat]

in terms of supporting World star i have sparkle vita sena, in terms of GoI i have bfdd paws and hohe

[spiral badge]

although WS is quite old by now that vita, hofi, fws are the main ones to note usually

[simple bobcat]

i also have chenxue

idk if thats good enough for retaining

[sweet flax]

more than enough

[spiral badge]

what abyss tier?

[sweet flax]

assuming rl

[simple bobcat]

rl

[spiral badge]

chenxue is prob overkill

but if nirv then i would prob look for SS as the standard

anyway you're prob fine overall

[sweet flax]

then again nirv is have the best or go home

[spiral badge]

avoid backpulling and keep focusing on s0 and syn 1 new releases when you can guarantee them early in the patch

[sweet flax]

how many crystals do you have by the way

[simple bobcat]

^^ yeah i end up loading the ring too fast so i sometimes have to wait

[simple bobcat]

ima just say im getting 2 weapons and 1 valk guaranteed regardless

[sweet flax]

so about 75k?

[simple bobcat]

i still got alot of content to clear for xtals

[sweet flax]

assuming no pity

[spiral badge]

just make sure to assess properly again when it arrives

[simple bobcat]

70 pity char, 42 pity wep

[sweet flax]

so 63k?

[simple bobcat]

normally i do do the math to see if i can afford it

[sweet flax]

well anyways, just make sure not to pull the valk without her weapon next patch

[simple bobcat]

^^

[spiral badge]

and if you can whale to afford everything, i won't say no to hofi dkey

but otherwise i don't recommend picking it up and later down the line needing to skip a new release because you were short by the amount you spent for hofi

you may consider skipping gacha ops from this point if your goal is rl and below

if you don't mind skipping a future new release then backpulling/vertical investment/gacha ops become more fair (not saying it's recommended though) as long as you fully understand the trade offs

[simple bobcat]

most the time i end up getting the weap by the end of the patch

or else it just becomes my next goal

[spiral badge]

ok hang on you don't want to do that

the first few weeks are when a new release really gets emphasized in abyss

[simple bobcat]

yeah for content clears not having wep is not enough

[spiral badge]

so at this stage of exalted red lotus you really should aim for getting everything early before the first abyss relevant for that new release ends

[simple bobcat]

this is moreso a personal reason so i will do my best to get both rhe valk + wep

but yeah ill see if its possible first before

but definitely a no on hofi

[spiral badge]

an alternative consideration for hofi is that it's still a dkey with a passive +10 global atk

but that's not worth 60 rolls solely for obviously. It's just a supporting consideration

and for RL purposes, that isn't going to usually make the difference for rankings

[simple bobcat]

|| for horb idk, i really want her just cause i still do not have a phys p2 character but if i cant get it its fine||

[lyric anvil]

||Planning on hopefully to do the same but for a different reason||

[spiral badge]

i don't really recommend tunneling on specifically the four damage types in the game

the game's weathers and shills have found plenty of other ways to emphasize beyond those properties

[simple bobcat]

||i like seele, so ill get seele for me too mostly||

[spiral badge]

and overall you'll get enough coverage as you keep up with new releases diligently when you can afford them

but yeah if it's a personal preference sort of thing, then it becomes more up to you to weight against meta reasons

meta isn't everything and don't let it control you if it conflicts and makes you not have fun after all

[simple bobcat]

||i kinda dont really care much for p2 chars i like the original cast the most so its a personal preference||

[spiral badge]

yeah very understandable

[lyric anvil]

||Mine is I don't exactly have any WS dps, Badum can technically handle them but having a WS valk wouldn't be that bad even if it's more niche now||

[simple bobcat]

|| honestly yeah that too, i have a lot of good WS supports but like most of them fell, except for like maybe sparkle, im fine wirh coping with sparkle sena vita as a team but i should invest in a new good ws unit||

||GoI too, ive pretty much completed. the reason as to why i wanna invest in both units is cause i have okay supports for all those units. so pros are like i have a complete team for both, and i love both units cause p1||

[spiral badge]

if there's any further spoiler tagged talk maybe it's time we move it to #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[simple bobcat]

got it i pretty much wrapped it up

[silver patio]

Wait..

@left vale

@spiral badge is the 3rd party top up website only paypal..?

[sweet flax]

it will show on the website which options are available, im not sure if SEA has more options available

[silver patio]

It doesnt..

We dont have paypal omg

[silver patio]

Hey asumara

Can i pm u

[sweet flax]

sure

[dry python]

It does though

[silver patio]

Mine doesnt

[silver patio]

Wait what device are you using

@sweet flax is this typa convos allowed in help?

[dry python]

It's like on the left.

[sweet flax]

I mean.... maybe?

idk

[dry python]

Why wouldn't it

[silver patio]

This is the full screen though

[dry python]

The credit card option is to the left of the paypal one

[silver patio]

Oh.

[sweet flax]

[silver patio]

I meant other things other than paypal oops

And tcredit

[sweet flax]

there used to be, but this patch half the options just dissapeared

[dry python]

Credit/debit is literally the definition of not paypal

[silver patio]

I forgot to say credit and debit

[sweet flax]

basically without a card/bank account

doesnt seem like it from hoyo's top up center, you can try contacting their customer support and seeing if they offer suggestions though

this is the SEA one

[silver patio]

Where u check this

[sweet flax]

before you click the top up button

its on the bottom of the screen

[dry python]

#how-to-contact-cs

[silver patio]

Oh

[silver patio]

Uhm is this gonna take long

How am i gonna see if they replied

An1

Yall is HoHe good using solon stigmata without divine key or no

Oh its bad

But imma still get it..

[warped geyser]

is crimson impulse qte training permanently locked or behind a skill limit

nvm figured it out

[frozen crypt]

It's almost completely useless without dkey

[silver patio]

Not like i can get her main set no?

[frozen crypt]

Almost all of the effects are straight up inactive without dkey

[frozen crypt]

No but I bet even something like scott rasp is better than dkeyless solon

[silver patio]

Main set i mean is the elysia one looking

[silver patio]

Eh then imma get that then work on solon for when i get her dkey

[frozen crypt]

Sure just don't craft any solon before obtaining the dkey

[silver patio]

Whats scott rasp

[frozen crypt]

Scott tm rasputin b

If you have peary tmb you could use that probably

[silver patio]

What

[frozen crypt]

Idk the situation of your account

[frozen crypt]

What

Do you not understand how stigmata work

!faq stig

!faq stigmata what

[small willow]

Stigmata

Hi Captain!

Stigmata are gear pieces that can be equipped on Valkyries. Each Valkyrie has three Stigmata slots: T, M, and B (top, middle, and bottom respectively). Similarly, there are T, M, and B Stigmata.

Stigmata can only be placed in the corresponding slot on a Valkyrie. T Stigmata can only be placed in a Valkyrie's T slot, and so on.

Stigmata can provide a variety of effects and are essential to building Valkyries. They can boost damage dealt by the host and/or the team depending on the effects, and also provide both individual and set bonuses! Some Stigmata sets rely on owning specific pieces of the set to function, such as the Bronya Zaychik set which relies on the B piece to trigger the Inceptive Authority team buff.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[silver patio]

No i mean

What is that name..

[frozen crypt]

?

They're both in foundry

[silver patio]

I mean like..

[frozen crypt]

What

[silver patio]

Who i pick from this

@sweet flax also it worked

[odd plume]

just pick the middle, the least useless one

very cope ice/generic support

[silver patio]

Should i buy this?

Or js save the 110 for idk..?

[frozen crypt]

Yes

!faq whaling

[small willow]

Cost-effective Spending

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the cost-effective whaling guide!

Short answer:

1. Level Rush and very high value B-Chip Bundles.
2. Monthly Card.
3. Level bundles (will expire if left too long).
4. Knight BP.
5. Crystal top-up with 2x bonus.
6. B-Chip packs (find highest Crystal:B-Chip ratio)
7. Paladin BP.
8. Crystal top-up without 2x bonus.

[silver patio]

Yes? Okay

[silver patio]

Hey

Is this what u were talking abt?

@frozen crypt

[sweet flax]

oh congrats

spend wisely

[silver patio]

Yay so now whats a team for her

Without dkey

[amber finch]

yes
Scott TM refers to top (T) and middle (M)
rasputin bottom (B)

[sweet flax]

jk from starter manual and rc from starter manual

[amber finch]

glossary in pins

[silver patio]

What

[amber finch]

@silver patio

[sweet flax]

like ches said, glossary in pins

[lyric anvil]

Haven't seen you in a while, ches

[silver patio]

Yes ik but like i didnt know if she meant that stigmata

[amber finch]

got mad and decided to take some time off this server

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[sweet flax]

but you came back because you like us didnt you ches

[amber finch]

i literally want you to die so i can be next in line for prof

[sweet flax]

why do people think im next prof

[amber finch]

you’re literally me but less arrogant + no cyberbullying newbies

[silver patio]

When was hohe’s. Last dkey rerun? When it released?

[sweet flax]

if im you, I need a faq named after me

[amber finch]

had a rerun a while back too iirc, was too mid for me to notice tho

[silver patio]

lol

[sweet flax]

released 8.1, reran 8.2

[amber finch]

if you really want an ely valk then just save

[silver patio]

Oh okay

[amber finch]

|| 8.5 has exactly what you want, and the animations are just chef’s kiss||

[amber finch]

for you akemi

[sweet flax]

if its gonna rerun anytime soon id say next patch is the earliest possible, we dont know when it will rerun

[amber finch]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for some spoilers on her

[silver patio]

||the reason i got level rush was for elysia solely (hohe and love elf)||

[sweet flax]

tbh hohe dkey could be a decent dkey pickup for you then

[amber finch]

then save and dont bother getting hohe’s dkey if it reruns

[lyric anvil]

Either after ||HoRb DKey|| or much later in the patch, though who knows

[silver patio]

Yes

[amber finch]

ehh

[silver patio]

Im saving but if her dkey reruns ill try my best

[amber finch]

its such a mid dkey tho, like its so sad

[silver patio]

They saaid too

[sweet flax]

its worse than mid

[silver patio]

Someone explain why

[lyric anvil]

They did her dirty

[amber finch]

shit support + shit dps

compared to hofi’s dkey, hohe got shafted way too hard

[amber finch]

(not exactly shit dps but its literally thelema dps but 1 more step)