👶beginner-help

[quick birch]

no dmg or motivation

shit boss

[wispy aurora]

Real gamers prevail

[upbeat egret]

Prof btw

[quick birch]

prof where

[sweet flax]

ofc no motivation, whels dont have motivations

[upbeat egret]

2030 trust

[sweet flax]

playing the game means less time swiping your card

[upbeat egret]

I swear

Mango didn't even do cope run this cycle

[quick birch]

i did

excactly 1

[upbeat egret]

Where cope run

[sweet flax]

im assuming you have no plans to do another run unless your t50 ranking is threatened?

[upbeat egret]

Proof or fake

[upbeat egret]

Mango go mald top 50

[quick birch]

i've already expected no t50 for this abyss tbh

[upbeat egret]

Latern traumatised mango

Poor mango

[sweet flax]

considering t40-50 is the same team as you im surprised you'd think that

although we might see the infamous nirv snipe where the last 50 players wake up

[upbeat egret]

For real

[ancient needle]

I guarantee you there'll be no T50

[quick birch]

bracket so funny i might even demot with 795

[dry python]

Wait fuck I forgot today was finalisation

I'm 99% sure I demoted

[shadow gyro]

demote n myriad eh? 😭

[upbeat egret]

This is not smt new tho

It was even worse back then

[quick birch]

nirvana brackets be funny sometimes

[shadow gyro]

that score is top 50 rn...

[upbeat egret]

Imagine top 30 and-200

[shadow gyro]

😭

[quick birch]

theoretically you can -200 at t10

get tiny bracket and then have t1-t9 in your bracket

[shadow gyro]

that's low-key how my bella bracket was like

i think the first in my bracket was top 3

[dry python]

Then you'd be t10 in the bracket and +0

[quick birch]

smol bracket should be t10 -200 no ?

[dry python]

Oh wait I forgot 19 person brackets exist

But by that same logic 18 person brackets exist too

[ancient needle]

?
19 is the more common size, no?

T10 is still +0 there

[dry python]

No what

Glb moment

[ancient needle]

Mayhaps

[high bear]

Guys I need big help

I just returned to try the game out again. But I'm very decently far alr? Well not rly but at the same time kinda? Im level 47 with 4 s rank and only one ss rank

[ancient needle]

1. lvl 47 is almost nothing, you can get there in a week tops
2. The ranks don't say anything by themselves

[high bear]

I'm also in debate about going for the current on banner girl

[ancient needle]

I assume none of your valks are from gacha?

[ancient needle]

From limited banners I mean

[high bear]

I don't think so

[ancient needle]

And I assume you don't have Starter Manual?

[high bear]

Starter manual?

[ancient needle]

If you're asking this question you don't have it

Anyway, I strongly suggest you make a new acc in your case

[high bear]

I also just wouldn't know if I have it or not since. I kinda don't play this often

[ancient needle]

It's visible in the main menu if you do have it

Can't miss it even if you wanted to

[ancient needle]

Yeah, nothing of value

[high bear]

Yeah I don't think I have it

Should I just start on a different server?

Cause I don't wanna use a whole other email

[ancient needle]

That works too, but keep in mind this affects reset times

[wraith brook]

with what i can swap Sparkle?

[ancient needle]

The daily reset can be checked in #status

[high bear]

Right.

Maybe another email will be fine

[ancient needle]

Is this for mob stages? Songque

[wraith brook]

yes thanks

[ancient needle]

You can also salt your current one

[high bear]

Uh, how does one log out of an account on pc 😭

[ancient needle]

!faq reroll

[small willow]

About Rerolling

Hey there, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's summary of rerolling [here](#👶beginner-help message)! Also see the Returnee Accounts pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) to see why restarting is recommended and remember, whether you want to reroll is completely your decision!

"Rerolling" refers to the process of restarting accounts until you obtain the target character/equipment within the first 10 supply pulls - not to be confused with "restarting", which is simply starting a new account and sticking with it regardless of luck.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[high bear]

Salt the current one?

[ancient needle]

The first link here explains the process

Ignore the rest of the FAQ

[ancient needle]

Essentially you can add a dot to your current email when registering an acc to make Hoyo think it's a different one

[mortal carbon]

to log out, just click switch account on the elevator login screen and then the hoyoverse icon and then log into another account

[ancient needle]

While in practice it'll be the exact same

(just don't forget where you added the dot)

[high bear]

i may have accidentally closed the game 😭

[mortal carbon]

you can do that next time you open it

[high bear]

Also I think it might just be easier for me to use a different email. I have a few on hand

[ancient needle]

Anyway, in regards to the current valk on the banner

She's a very good pickup

Make sure to get her weapon too

[high bear]

What's her role in battle?

[high bear]

Okay, should I be able to get enough for it all before the banner ends?

[ancient needle]

Yes, comfortably

Assuming you play consistently that is

[high bear]

I can probably

[ancient needle]

I won't dive into specifics too much rn to not overwhelm, but essentially she can be both a DPS and a support

You'll be using her as the DPS during the current patch

[high bear]

I just started the new acc

Watching the opening scene rn

[ancient needle]

For more info you can check the pins here, this is a good starting point:

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[high bear]

Okay thank you

How did I go from captain level 1 to 8 in the intro thing 😭

[mortal carbon]

its really fast now

[remote token]

guys how do i share invitations on this event tab,the 300 crystals per ppl are a lot

[minor dawn]

Should i pull mini durandal at this patch’s end ? I got coralie s2 (lucky 10 pull) and her weapon and i am still chapter 17 in the story

So idk if i can guarentee her her weapon and the next patch

[remote token]

mini durandal is rerunning this patch?

[shadow gyro]

to share urs just copy ur invite code and look for someone who can take it or send in #invite-links-here

[shadow gyro]

don't, save for next patch

[minor dawn]

They might rerun smn else but idk who

[minor dawn]

Okk

[shadow gyro]

your goal is to try to keep up with getting characters on their debut banner
and for this patch you already fulfilled the goal so now just wait

[remote token]

i might pull for reign solaris,gonna see if her gameplay is fun in trials and decide if i pull her or not

[shadow gyro]

from meta perspective you won't get max value getting her
unless ur very casual

also chances next patch is anni so if you wanna make use of it then u wanna wait

[minor dawn]

True true

Gives me more time to catch up on kafka xD

[shadow gyro]

gl 👍

[remote token]

reign solaris is kinda fun to play ngl,but i think ill pass,btw if yall are in NA servers use my code

i sent it on #invite-links-here

aight,whats the easiest way to get starchasm nyx thats not the banner since the standard banner is her + almost 20 more standard s ranks,i dont care if shes off meta i want her

[shadow gyro]

war treasury but it will take time

[remote token]

her gameplay is just too fun

whats the f2p way to getting the 640 things u need to buy her?

[shadow gyro]

there's a lot of valks you wanna get from there too (not to actually use in abyss or MA tho even though at least you'll get to try your nyx anyways because she got her own stages that u need her in called stress test)

[shadow gyro]

you slowly get them from MA and abyss (when you reach level 80+ tho)

don't worry about that you'll reach 80 in little time assuming you do story and all that and stay active

also do not consider using crystals on the dorm supply

[quick birch]

should already start at level 70+

[quartz meteor]

how to play the story last patch :)? I didn't view the dragon coralie story last patch and now it's skipping to the current event

[shadow gyro]

that's for MA right?

[quick birch]

both

[shadow gyro]

oh

[quick birch]

either way it'll take some time

[shadow gyro]

q mani gives it? i thought it was locked to superstring that needs breakthrough

[remote token]

its a 1 in 31 chance of getting her,if the herrscher of the void that i already have counts,otherwise 1 in 30

i like those odds

[shadow gyro]

can you show what ur seeing rn? it should let you play the story if you go to the Hyperion bridge and look at story missions

[remote token]

theres also some good characters that i also wanna build even if theyre off meta,like HoT,stygian nymth,goushinnso memento

since i like the gameplay of all of those

[quick birch]

yeah starts at level 70 q mani

[shadow gyro]

oh i see then, mb

[quartz meteor]

i figured it out

[gleaming sail]

Guys, I have a question about sensei and cadet, I came back to the game after a long time (since 2018 I think) and became sensei, I saw that I (sensei) could give the cadet daily missions (I'm not sure) were the daily missions discontinued?

[shadow gyro]

i believe so

now you don't even need to do anything

you can still volunteer to help the cadets manually if the cadet wants to tho

[gleaming sail]

Ty ☺️

[high bear]

Guys I just got on my new acc valkyrie blast metal. Is she good?

Probably better then the starting cast?

[green gale]

Do you think part 2 Seele will be Playable?

If she is should I save for her (Really Like Seele)

I also like design

[thick bolt]

she is one of the potential candidates for a dkey (whenever that happens) but all just speculation atp since theres no confirmation/info

[shadow gyro]

very good for all accs, shes pretty flexable as a support and see most use with RoO dpses (currently vita and new coralie) and very helpful early and late game as youre assembing teams

[thick bolt]

dkeys have been released on anni/ny in p2 so far so closest it's possible is next patch

[high bear]

So since my acc is just starting should I do seele/mei/blast?

Or mei/Kiana/blast

Probably the one w Kiana right?

[shadow gyro]

one sec

[high bear]

It's a brand brand new acc

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message this will be very helpful to you but especially for story you can relay on HoV (whom you get from log in) as your dps for a while

ignore hohe in the pic for the most part

[high bear]

Okay thank you

[wraith brook]

did we not press ULT? https://youtu.be/HurUlp9cKD8?si=o2juO8TSOI5PCVHm&t=14

[shadow gyro]

she provides her buff from qte so it isnt a must

to use the ult

[wraith brook]

can i bother u more?

[shadow gyro]

sure i can help but only a bit because ill sleep soon

[sweet flax]

be a beginner help rat, dont sleep until the crack of dawn waiting to forward every faq known to man

[shadow gyro]

when i get paid for that

/hj

[wraith brook]

if u go sleep its fine

guess i cant do this boss

[shadow gyro]

its alr im awake for now

what issues are you having with the boss?.

[wraith brook]

PS gameplay

[shadow gyro]

is it the first phase?

[wraith brook]

yes

[shadow gyro]

to be honest with you.. i didnt follow what hieu le did at the start and just played ps normally

[wraith brook]

They somehow reset WA with Evade i guess but

[wraith brook]

dont we loose score then?

[shadow gyro]

not for me i had enough damage

[wraith brook]

i wait someone else guess then,

[sweet flax]

you evaded instead of attacking after evading the ability

(evaded twice in a row)

[wraith brook]

can u explain?

[sweet flax]

when you dodged here you are supposed to basic attack and then you can recast your weapon active

instead you evaded again

its the same thing you do for the phase change

[wraith brook]

so i need somehow find bes timing for eveade and attack twice? (evade attack then repeat it and press CA i guess)

[wraith brook]

bad in that

[sweet flax]

evade > basic attack > weapon active

ofc you actually need to evade a hit, not just a random evade

[wraith brook]

ok thanks

Why do we swap here on PAWS?

[sweet flax]

idk I dont use paws

actually let me check in the video

[shadow gyro]

i personally saw it as free extra damage

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

to reapply buffs and because her qte cooldown refreshed to regen ari

[shadow gyro]

since u SO immediately after

dont her buffs refresh with SO?

[sweet flax]

remember that loa valks have a ari gen from their qte that is a 13 second cooldown iirc

[sweet flax]

didnt continue watching, I just saw them go from fdd to paws and assumed it was buff re-application

[green gale]

I think I need a better character against Psy enemies.

only have neutral and disadvantage (best Character are both mech😅 )

[sweet flax]

its mainly for this though, the 16 second cooldown period expired and he swapped back to paws to get the ari

[wraith brook]

but we have ari Alredy
Or i miss smth?

[shadow gyro]

i see, later its just ps dealing with transition then paws qte again then SO immediately

[sweet flax]

wait what timestamp are you at

oh wait are you talking about the paws qte before or after the phase change

before the phase change was for the ari gen I was talking about, after the phase change is just bonus damagfe

[wraith brook]

after

[sweet flax]

before and after paws qte in p1

[sweet flax]

ye its just for bonus damage then, since she doesnt take up time and its a smooth transition into ps so

[wraith brook]

how we timing 1st phase with coralie?

[sweet flax]

just as soon as the text appears you start attacking

[shadow gyro]

even hieu spared an extra wp which is prob also for extra lil dmg

[wraith brook]

Final battle u mean?
I just fell im slow or too fast

[shadow gyro]

i wait a lil after seeing final battle

[sweet flax]

the final battle message does a little pop effect

when it ends you can start attacking

[shadow gyro]

before first warning (for me at least)

[sweet flax]

a bit hard to notice, but you can see in the images the text becomes smaller

once it becomes smaller you can start attacking

[wraith brook]

only with PS ,when clone die and Lantern start attack from Air, PAWS just apperar and immedetly AO>
that waht i can see in this moment

[sweet flax]

actually let me record the start of the run incase it helps you time it

[wraith brook]

Don't strain yourself so much

[sweet flax]

its literally 2 seconds of recording lmao

[shadow gyro]

theres an extra wp that hieu does after transition then theres paws qte
i dont see it as a deal breaker if u do it or not tho tho

[sweet flax]

https://youtu.be/Dg9K3RndATU

you can probs do it a bit faster than that if you perfectly time it

[wraith brook]

i guess i can see it, but now my problem in evade and transition

[sweet flax]

but the idea is you want to land without the timer going down (im still on 1000 points)

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

to be honest this is mostly a skill check

but the easy way to do it is
dodge the carpet bomb > attack > evade twice > attack > evade twice > weapon skill > wait for the last clone to make a spark > ult

[wraith brook]

oh u talk only about transition

[sweet flax]

didnt notice the evade part of the message, but ye im talking about the transition

it needs getting used to

[wraith brook]

im litte start but do wrong rota guess

m not sure after 2 attack with WA what we do?

[sweet flax]

to be honest id like to replicate the run so I can know the situation you are in but... my sushang is a bit too high ranked for hieu le's run

[wraith brook]

Its only CA ?
not with WA

[sweet flax]

ye, casting weapon active after the hold atk is basically a time loss, you are better off swapping to get the qte bonuses

[wraith brook]

all fine i jsut hope i do as much good run as i only can and then upload it, instead ifinity restart

[sweet flax]

try relying more on paws as a second dps who is there to refresh ps qte

so ps weapon skills, evasion attacks, ult if possible, qte to paws, refresh ps qte, repeat until p1 is over

transition change you need to rely on evasion attacks to finish it quickly

so in p2

[wraith brook]

i do bad evade and even if i do it somehow, do bad final roa move, swap on PAWS or not press utl on FDD

[sweet flax]

you should only go to fdd if her buffs run out, you can see a meter above your hp bar

let me watch hieu le's run and see what he does though so I can get an idea

[wraith brook]

794

[sweet flax]

not bad

but can be higher for sure, mostly from transition phase

[wraith brook]

well, i still try evade in p1 and dont understadn how to deal with transtition in beginin

[sweet flax]

btw he only swaps in p1 for ari gen, remember the thing we talked about earlier, the heavenly link ability

[upbeat egret]

[wraith brook]

mhm but what u thing about final rota in p1?
After CA - coralie WA -ULT swap on PAWS-ult ?

[sweet flax]

fdd time your basic sequence > weapon skill > ult > paws qte > ps qte > weapon attack > ult > dodge the orange blades she throws at you > basic attack > dodge the other set of blades she throws at you > basic attack > weapon attack > hold attack > fdd qte for ari gen > weapon attack > ult > paws qte for ari gen (so ready) > transition phase with ps > end of transition paws qte just for a little extra damage > so

the p1 is straight forward

[sweet flax]

he swaps to paws for ari gen, then he ults on paws to finish off the boss instead of losing time to qte

he swaps into coralie for ari gen, and since coralie pauses the timer when she ults its not a bad idea to do a bit of damage with her since qte reduces the time she takes on field A LOT

[wraith brook]

what u mean?

[sweet flax]

you basically just want to deal as much damage with sushang as possible then ari gen through heavenly link

btw pay attention to these when you are on ps

these are the abilities you are supposed to be dodging to do your evasion attacks

and the bullets she shoots

[wraith brook]

wait u mean ari or ground?

[upbeat egret]

Doesn't he have paws?

[wraith brook]

asumara dont have

[sweet flax]

im talking about ps, he is confused why hieu le evades in his run

or when he chooses to evade

[upbeat egret]

Oh

[sweet flax]

• I literally described the role of paws in the rot just before this message

[upbeat egret]

Why does he need to evade..he can just dps in p1 and evade in transition or not?

[sweet flax]

not enough damage apparently

so just to get extra dps

[upbeat egret]

What?

[sweet flax]

idk bro

[upbeat egret]

Does he have a record?

No damage in rl seems weird

[sweet flax]

@wraith brookcan you record a run

[wraith brook]

yes i try
try to not press restart

[sweet flax]

xd dont worry about the transition phase, I just wanna see how much damage you do in p1

[wraith brook]

so do i need full record?

[upbeat egret]

Yes

[wraith brook]

i can do it with try

okey

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/J4I7gYa8biQ

i do antoher try with 800
little lucky but still bad transition guess

did we just press WA here? i mean not 2 WA
after kill clone

[upbeat egret]

U are losing too much time by trying all those random dodge

After sus ult you can switch back to helia again and ult to reset sus qte+ dps

[wraith brook]

know, try to used them

[wraith brook]

so we're excluding evade?

[upbeat egret]

Yes

[wraith brook]

oh

[upbeat egret]

This

[wraith brook]

so

[wraith brook]

i try record if i undestand right u idea

[upbeat egret]

If u have good hand ur transition should look like this

[wraith brook]

how did u do this?

[upbeat egret]

You dodge one of the red 🔴 circle on the ground +basic( she will throw her umbrella) then u dodge the bullet to extend the umbrella 🌂

Or you can just spam weapon activ on clone

U don't really have time to mald the perfect transition

[wraith brook]

sry for this

[upbeat egret]

Dw

[wraith brook]

h

808

[upbeat egret]

Nice

[lyric anvil]

Been trying to get 800+

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/2Ywy3P_SNzk?si=mlm4PbyddEcsyQ66

[wraith brook]

[bright raptor]

hi everyone

[wraith brook]

hi

[green gale]

Should I Lvl 50 Fu Hua & Darwin ones?

[sweet flax]

you can take fu hua musician b to lvl 50 if you have the materials, otherwise leave fu hua musician m and b at lvl 40 or lvl 1/50 (at lvl 1/50 they get the max bonuses but no base stat increases which can be ignored on support)
ignore darwin, that set is ass

also you dont need to use fu hua musician t, the buffs from it and the 3pc bonus are ignorable, craft theresa; gluttony T from the foundry to use as your t piece

[green gale]

Mostly asking because I need to get nine of them to level 50 for mission.

Okay

[sweet flax]

then I would prioritise taking your fdd and lp stigs to 50, you can level up marco polo tm and fhm mb and that should cover the important stigs to level while not wasting materials

these ones

[green gale]

Okay I understand thank you

[sweet flax]

also do make sure to craft the T piece I told you about, it works well as a supportive option with fhm mb

its in the foundry under basic stigmata, theresa: gluttony T

[green gale]

Yeah I have enough to forge it

Done

I might be able to get fdd's to 40, but 50 will take a while.

I need a ton of source prism (for both her & LP)

[sweet flax]

ye no worries, id prioritise fdd's first though, allow me to ask though does she have her weapon?

[green gale]

Not yet
I was going to do the mission to get the 800 gems to pull haha

[sweet flax]

that's fine, if you are still pulling for it you will end up getting dupe stigmatas which you can convert to source prisms

for example you can turn this dupe vita stig into source prisms

[spiral badge]

!faq prisms

!faq prism

[small willow]

Source Prism

Hi, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!

Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sweet flax]

thank you sairaan

[green gale]

Thank you

[sweet flax]

anyways you still got another 5 weeks and change to get her weapon so dont worry about rushing it as a beginner
if you feel the urgency to get it sooner there is also a 1 time crystal source pin that covers a majority if not all the one time crystal sources available

(spoiler alert, most of it is from story completion)

[green gale]

Okay

[warped geyser]

should i convert hov wep, azure wep, starter wep option and topup bonus wep option for a dk in exchange shop

[sweet flax]

is this a newer or older account

[warped geyser]

new

made it like 2 months ago

[spiral badge]

there's no need for you to rush to a dkey right now

[warped geyser]

okok

[spiral badge]

keep azure empyrea's gloves as you may still use it for beginner teams or niche strategies down the line (one of the few sp restoring gloves)

technically you can trash it for resonances and recraft a glove to make the pri arm version later

[warped geyser]

she's benched as i have bo use for her rn 😭

no*

[sweet flax]

the gloves themselves are very useful on a plethora of characters

[spiral badge]

i said niche for a reason but i do understand as time goes on, such niche uses may fall off in the future too

[sweet flax]

oh wait my messages are delayed

[warped geyser]

it's np

[spiral badge]

but anyway all you're getting out of this is either unlocking the lightning gene limit, and/or +10 atk

[warped geyser]

okay i'll save them until i finish collecting dkeys ty for the advice

[spiral badge]

and that's not something you badly need early on. Divine keys are a long term project. Work towards them on the side affordably, lessening irreversible decisions if possible

i'm assuming this is for judah. that's really the only realistic choice from exchange shop

[warped geyser]

yeah oath of judah

[spiral badge]

do you have pledge of sakura already from foundry?

[warped geyser]

yep

[spiral badge]

so you already have lightning gene limit. So all this is for is just +10 atk

they add up but on its own it's hardly noticable so yeah

[warped geyser]

okay ty i'll keep it saved until then

[spiral badge]

after crafting pledge and building up a stock to be ready for bad p2 stig rolling luck, you can continue farming foundry for weapons to convert to resos instead

[warped geyser]

i'm farming for the other two dkeys

[spiral badge]

although you can consider farming foundry for older outdated/niche stigs, or working on abyss/fenghuang pinions when you get their reserve shop counterparts too (also not a rush to get)

sorry if i'm dragging this on but that's another topic we can talk about too

[warped geyser]

okay ty

[warped geyser]

nono not at all i appreciate the effort and advice

[spiral badge]

as far as reserve shop goes, even if you have enough orbs to get a dkey from it, because the benefits are so small i don't recommend rushing to get one

because sometimes they may give away one or a few specific ones

[warped geyser]

which do u think they'll be giving away

[spiral badge]

and i rather you not rush one for only +10 atk, run into a giveaway of that exact same one with no other choices later

[warped geyser]

or if u had to guess

[spiral badge]

i don't even know if they will give more away. this just being conservative. i rather not guess either

the safe way to go about this is to hold orbs until you can afford all 4 reserve dkey weapons at once

they may add more harder to get ones in the future too

!faq crystallum

[small willow]

Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain!

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

• Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
• Knight BP: 18 per patch
• Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Feel free to ask us for account specific advice - especially if you buy BP!

[spiral badge]

just checking to make sure it's 4 weapons for now

[warped geyser]

okok i'm at 19 orbs rn

i thought it was five?

[spiral badge]

but anyway the only time i would rush for a weapon early is if you know you need that +10 attack right now for an important ranking change

you can check the last link. it's technically 6 but two of them are available in other ways that we already discussed

so it's effectively just 4 of interest

anyway you'll see this sort of mentality alot in this game. Resources are costly and take a long time to accumulate so you don't really want to be too wasteful unless you know what you're really getting out of it

[warped geyser]

what about 7t?

[spiral badge]

oh i didn't realize that got added. yes that is another one

so yeah 5 then

[warped geyser]

hopefully it will be updated

[warped geyser]

okay tyty i'll keep that in mind

[spiral badge]

7t actually has niche uses if you have HoO those cases are quite demanding in gearing and ranks. i still wouldn't rush for it until a use case actually comes up either

can search !faq keep for the general and longer explanation of this mindset

one last thing, you brought up a starter weapon box earlier. Honestly at this point i largely would say the weapons there are too obsolete that it hardly matters what you pick from it esp if you intend to trash it

but conservatively i can only say to keep it in case some rare one in a million chances a use case surfaces

[warped geyser]

huh didn't expect that but on this acc i only have paws, bfd, hohe

[spiral badge]

you may just want to keep it out of collection too

can't get that box anywhere else

[warped geyser]

it's buns yeah😭

[warped geyser]

i'm not really a collector

[spiral badge]

sometimes people decide they want to collect later rather than immediately too

but yeah you can decide your approach to the game as long as you're well aware of the trade offs

[warped geyser]

true i'll be saving for that

[spiral badge]

any other questions btw?

[warped geyser]

nope, thank u so much i'm trying to develop this acc without the mistakes i made before😭

[spiral badge]

for the most part, make sure you don't miss limited time crystals > save up until roughly 40k > roll a newly released valk with her weapon together. Ideally at the start of the patch but if your account is very fresh and has nothing on it, middle of the patch is ok too

as long as you don't take large breaks and miss out on crystal income, and regularly pick up new releases from keeping up with such income, your account will naturally become meta capable as the older meta falls off

generally don't pull for older valks even if they're only one patch past their release

[warped geyser]

i don't plan on taking large breaks thankfully

[warped geyser]

i won't thank you

i started this acc during goi so

[spiral badge]

beginning will be a bit rough but it'll smooth out more later around the time you pick up a second or third gacha valk probably

anyway best of luck

[warped geyser]

waiting on next patch

[lyric anvil]

Gonna be a while

[warped geyser]

fortunately but unfortunately at the same time

[lyric anvil]

||8.5 Valk Teaser later today though in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion||

[remote token]

those are the drip marketings?

[lyric anvil]

[ancient needle]

Here's an example of a teaser
#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[spiral badge]

we don't really have the kind of drip marketing you're used to from other hoyo games

[remote token]

kay ty

btw wth is elemental breach that is talked abt in one of the elysian realm signets?

this physical breach one also

[remote token]

well,like how i guessed,basically res pen

[sweet flax]

we should be giving people who finish reading any of the breach/impair faqs a diploma and certificate

[lyric anvil]

[winged veldt]

why this event locked? nvm I just have to open it from main menu

[ancient canopy]

hey kick question when a new divine key its launched what are usually the means to obtain it

[dry python]

...pull it?

[ancient canopy]

they are released in the gacha then? i know i can get them at the bp shop thing and some of them on other stuff

i wasnt sure if it was going to be able to be pull

thanks

[shell basin]

Old ones are in the BP shop

New ones go in gacha

[sweet flax]

Ain't a gacha game unless everything is put on a banner on release

[wet root]

What 3 teams I should use for MA if I had FDD?

[sweet flax]

what other valks do you have

[shell basin]

it's hard to give teams only knowing one battlesuit

[abstract sequoia]

who else you got? especially hephaestus has many ways to be beaten with 0s

pishacha wants bleed

FDD obviously goes on Litost

consider who she can use as teammates and keep those open for now

(any RoO and PAWS)

[wet root]

I thought there were typical teams for beginner

[wet root]

part 2 only have fdd from gacha, and coralie helia

[abstract sequoia]

oh and you're still masters MA?

if so things are a lot easier

[wet root]

yeah MA lv70-80

[abstract sequoia]

okay then you can split up your valks a bit if you want to optimize all bosses

[wet root]

sorry I don't get it

[quick birch]

irrc you only have 2 bosses ? you should be fine with
fdd/vbm/vbs on litost
HoV/TA/SI on the other boss

[abstract sequoia]

the 2 coralies and helia are the strongest valks you have pretty much. splitting them up across your bosses means you can clear them all in a fast way

[wet root]

3 bosses

[quick birch]

ah already 3

[abstract sequoia]

pishacha SS is a mystery for me tbh

is bleed super necessary

i mean otherwise this blob is typeless so anything goes

as for heph, i doubt he's any trouble except for the few times where he charges his shield thingy and turns invincible

[wet root]

so like litost (fdd), pishacha (coralie), hephaestus (helia), with other 2 randoms just fine?

[quick birch]

you'd have to try if fdd can solo litost she tanks quite a bit of dmg without 3 teammates protected by astral ring

[abstract sequoia]

i wouldn't put helia on heph, he's fire and lightning resistant

[quick birch]

i wouldnt do helia dps at all they have HoV + sig and TA

[abstract sequoia]

a rank coralie is a bit stronger so maybe enough to bruteforce?

i actually just rolled him with HoR back then because of his freeze weakness tag

no need to get her for this of course

[abstract sequoia]

how about triple support combo?

[quick birch]

for me it just depends on if fdd can solo litost if she can
fdd
HoV/si/rc
TA/vbm

[wet root]

wow I'm surprised she is fine solo

[wet root]

I think I'm going to use this

thanks a lot guys

[abstract sequoia]

litost was made for her just this patch, it makes sense

theoretically you could also solo his SSS variant this way

but those SSS variants only appear after you've done your Breakthrough into exalted with lvl 81

here's how he looks like if you're curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzZWwEVvpMo

[wet root]

not 80 yet so worry later about breakthrough

[abstract sequoia]

including pishacha, who becomes very bleed dependent on SSS

the third boss always stays SS

[abstract sequoia]

yea, just a thing to keep in mind once you get there

mechanics will get a bit more advanced, both for MA and Abyss

[tame slate]

LMAO I got FDD’s complete stigmata set in 5 pulls

What should I do with the box then? Is there any way to like upgrade stigmatas if you have more copies?

[storm lantern]

you can open it for a source prism if you need it

[steady pelican]

you can't merge dupe stig like p2 weapons, but you'll need prism to upgrade their levels

so just open it for prism, no use keeping them besides flexing

[tame slate]

Thanks!! I’ll do that. Hope I now get her weapon soon because I still have 50 pulls away from pity and I’m not interested in anything else from the banner

[frosty kernel]

is the rerun banners like cenadine and the blond chick worth to pull? feels like for a new player i need to at least get one from one of the banners but dont like the current battlesuit which is coraline

[ancient needle]

I assume you meant Starter Supply
It's terrible

And the current rec is Coralie

[frosty kernel]

bruh

[storm lantern]

definitely do not get sena or songque, if you don't want to pull coralie just skip but she's pretty good

[ancient needle]

With weap

[frosty kernel]

welp i guess save then, i dont like coralie

[ancient needle]

But yeah, if you really don't wanna get her and understand that you might struggle more in the future you can skip

[frosty kernel]

but i dont know if my account can hold up with such have a limited chars

[dusk thistle]

(referring to all their "base" forms, if that makes sense)

should i build helia if i've alr built coralie and sena

[storm lantern]

if by build you mean craft her stigmata then no

[dusk thistle]

i mean by build i mean raising her level and skills + crafting a weapon

[storm lantern]

theres no point in crafting a weapon for her, leveling her and her skills is fine though if you have sena already

[dusk thistle]

alr thanks

[frosty kernel]

i guess a rank coralia and helia the only chars worth to build right? feels like its my best option for the time being. although the weps is tricky cuz i need to forge them and i dont have the resources

[storm lantern]

not much point in building vbs, worse dps than vbm and doesn't support her

and vbm signature is free

[shell basin]

Yeah, there'd be some reason to build vbs if you were pulling fdd

but without it she's kind of mediocre. You can use HoV to help with starter content and build terminal aide / reverist calico as general supports. maybe also sugary starburst for a dedicated elemental support if you have spare resources

[frosty kernel]

i got hohe atm so one team is good, the other team... well is HoV. So i guess thats enough then for now?

[shell basin]

Yeah just focus on getting them some supports

until you find a gacha unit you like

[frosty kernel]

yea the new a rank part 2 its hard to run without their weapon. I mean there's no way i run them with 3 star weps lmao

[frosty kernel]

ahh gotcha

[shell basin]

Terminal Aide supports Herrscher of Void, Sugary Starburst and Jade Knight can support Hohe for a reasonably functional part 1 ice team, and then reverist calico can either substitute for starburst until you get her SS or support HoV

and then you'll have two decent-ish cope teams

(and then as needed you can also go Blastmetal Reverist Starburst as a team if you need her to dps)

your lack of abyss performance will hurt your crystal income a bit but you'll lose a lot less than it costs to roll a battlesuit so in a different sense you're still gaining

[frosty kernel]

atm my hohe team is starbust and calico lmao. For HoV yeah it lacks. I was planning to get astrologos but dk if its worth it

[odd plume]

TA and RC can be support for anything, no need to worry about other p1 support

[frosty kernel]

yeah i guess its fine. But my god HI patch last for a decade

[frosty kernel]

who are thesee

[shell basin]

You can get jade knight for free from the starter manual, and then she can go replace reverist calico so RC can help HoV

[odd plume]

check glossary in the pins

[shell basin]

TA is Terminal Aide / Prometheus, RC is reverist calico / pardofelis. TA is a good buy in the asterite shop, she benefits from ranks but still works fine at A

and is a good generic p1 support

[frosty kernel]

i guess i pick ta then

[shell basin]

yeah when you have some spare asterite

you don't have to rush it but it'll improve your HoV team once you can afford it

[slim blaze]

I see

[dry python]

[slim blaze]

Teehee

[frozen crypt]

bro stop exposing me

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[shadow gyro]

spoiler that bc its cn info that isnt out on global

[night ocean]

Oh sorry

[shadow gyro]

other than that if u cant affort valk + wp then skip

[ancient needle]

How many crystals do you have rn?

[night ocean]

0

[ancient needle]

If you're dead broke rn and don't have a lot of one-time crystal sources you're forced to skip Coralie

[shadow gyro]

if ur new u can affort as long as u grind story n stuff

[ancient needle]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[night ocean]

I’ve completed to chapter 10 and some of chapter 18

[shadow gyro]

you can afford imo but i would do more story first, see the total that you have then decide if you have enough for coralie and weapon or skip

[ancient needle]

I'd skip regardless tbh
Even if you afford Coralie you'll struggle in 8.5

[shadow gyro]

if your progression is very slow then you would skip coralie for now

[ancient needle]

And 8.5 is anni, anni usually has very good stuff

[shadow gyro]

||how would goi be like without someone for sp tho hmm.. since new ely is goi||

[ancient needle]

Actually

ig you could skip the dkey (if we get one)

[shadow gyro]

||might be worth it if they grind but otherwise i would skip||

||skip 8.4 i mean||

[dry python]

skipping 10 atk

[shadow gyro]

lowkey not worth the pulls if the dkey valk cant be obtained by new ppl in 8.5

[ancient needle]

You skip 10 ATK with every P2 dkey anyway by not being a whale

[dry python]

ok fully skipping means skipping 20 atk then

elywat

[shadow gyro]

cant wait for whales to always have more general attack than me

[quick birch]

Paws SO was terrible, ARC was just fine we'll have to see how ||Ely|| works to give a correct answer

[shadow gyro]

at least theres still time bf the supply ends

[dry python]

that's already a thing wdym

[shadow gyro]

arc is a rank pardo....?

[dry python]

astral ring charging bruh

kekfacepalm~1

[quick birch]

You could still farm for 3x ults to do 1 CA SO but from what I've heard DMG was worse than just staying in ARC

[shadow gyro]

alr

[shadow gyro]

it means im even further behind in atk bc aside from their ranks theyll have the dkey syns that i dont go for
im just being sarcastic, dw

[dry python]

they already have dk syncs you didn't go for wdym

you're already 20 atk behind

[shadow gyro]

yeah and ill be a further 10 atk behind with every new dkey

[dry python]

but this has already happened

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

just pretend stellar key synergies don't exist

[ancient needle]

In a couple years we'll be missing 60+ ATK

[dry python]

don't we only get 2 per year

[ancient needle]

Yes, that's 20 ATK per year

3 years and you're missing 60 ATK

Surely they add other ways to get them

[dry python]

oh i'm dumb xd i forgot to add the 2 existing ones

[dry python]

wait 5 years

[shadow gyro]

put then in a super supply to bait people more /j
theyll def take even longer to get since them being a p2 dkey gives them a longer lifespan so hoyo gotta bait us a bit more

[outer spruce]

new skemsal dkey supply

[calm kernel]

even when you can get a stellar key its just gonna be r2

so technically its 4 dkeys of debt every year (assuming you pull r1 in the first place)

[upbeat egret]

[dry python]

[frozen crypt]

I stand by that

[rugged compass]

Crazy

[hidden cave]

Hey is there a link here for tech assistance for the phone version 🥲 I need help with storage issues, I keep downloading the game and set the storage to external, but everytime it installs it keeps using internal??

[odd plume]

#🔌technical-help

[wintry wharf]

there are dailies i should do in new event?

[dry python]

There are

[celest shard]

And finally binged all my shallow sequences… some characters play SO weird in ER

But out of crystals. I may have done a dumb and threw everything for SSS Chenxue

[ancient needle]

Just a teensy little slip-up fr

[magic carbon]

hi guys im new and im lost i really wanna get ely could someone be my mentor ? please ( im a girl )

[spiral badge]

well what's done is done. In the grand scheme of the game it's minor. Just keep the possiblity of it stinging in the short term with the next few releases you may not be able to afford. Chenxue is still newely released, so you'll find plenty of ways to appreciate her, and there can be cases where you can appreciate the SSS differences too

[spiral badge]

Which elysia?

• There's the physical one farmable from the War Treasury Shop (Miss Pink Elf)
• There's the herrscher ice one (herrscher of human ego) that's available via
  • level rush (paid only bundle) for new accounts
  • battle pass reserve shop but saving for this as f2p will take a long time
  • please note this one needs a gacha only weapon that isn't currently running to get her latest animations and astral ring functionalities. That will cost an additional 60 rolls at worst

[magic carbon]

i want all her versions

[spiral badge]

you may also want to check out #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for other future upcoming valks too. They will be gacha only and you should look to save roughly 40k to safely afford them (including weapon. Weapons are generally non-negotiable for meta performance in this game)

beware any future info that isn't in global servers yet should be spoiler tagged here

when you say mentor are you looking for an ingame sensei for rewards? Otherwise I assume you just want someone to guide you through the game

[magic carbon]

both

[spiral badge]

i'm on the NA server so i won't be able to offer you a cadet position personally but we do have plenty of EU server helpers here that can offer to you later

if your account is fresh be sure to use their invite code as well

[spiral badge]

anyway i forgot to include the reserve shop method so i edited that in just now

also, even if you don't have the elysias right now, you can still appreciate playing them via their tutorials. You can access this via

• attack > events tab > tactics class
• or alternatively valkyries > look for the specific elysia (can use the filter menu at the bottom left) > tutorial at top right. Do not ever use the guide button nearby. The information from it is very faulty

[magic carbon]

i installed the game just for her

[spiral badge]

anyway let's talk more about the currencies you'll need to get for each of these elysias. They all have different kinds so this might be alot to take in

War Treasury can be found via supply > shop > activity shop > war treasury

the currency for it is [ancient willpower] (there's also a different one called ancient legacy but that's more difficult to get and not relevant for MPE)

https://i.imgur.com/vw7fN3C.png

!faq aw income

[small willow]

Ancient Willpower/Legacy Income

Hi, Captain!

Average weekly Ancient Willpower income
49 = 210*7/30 Purchases using Asterite
55 Memorial Arena Exalted 10 attempts
65 Memorial Arena Exalted 2% bonus
56 = 28*2 Memorial Arena SSS Bosses
10 = 60/6 Vanguard BP
10 = 60/6 Knight BP bonus
16.66 = 5*20/6 BP Store
24 Weekly Quiz
285.66 Total

Average weekly Ancient Legacy income
10 Memorial Arena Exalted 10 attempts
24 = 12*2 Memorial Arena SSS bosses
38 = 19*2 Abyss Exalted Red Lotus finalization
0 Vanguard BP
5 = 30/6 Knight BP bonus
5 = 30/6 Paladin BP bonus
~8.33 = 50/6 Events and other
~90.33 Total

[spiral badge]

i don't expect you to understand everything here, but keep this faq in mind for now. you can search within this channel for it too (you cannot use bot commands directly. only people with my role and higher can)

but in short, make sure to do

• weekly quiz from the missions menu (left side of main menu)
• regular activities for your free battle pass
• clear arena (ranking well will give more AW but that might be too much to ask for now)
• get asterite and buying from the asterite shop

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

asterite sources can be found here

[magic carbon]

do you mind if i add you ?

[green gale]

Is there a stigma set I should get for Her?

Probably will use her to Brute force against Psy Enemies (idk )

[spiral badge]

as for reserve work shop for hohe, if you're not willing to spend money then you'll need to get crystallum orbs. The main two ways are buying from dorm shop and making enough progress in the free battle pass.

To buy from dorm shop you'll need to get work point cards from dorm errands. To accept more errands you'll need to get get more valks and upgrade them to higher ranks.

!faq crystallum

[small willow]

Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain!

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

• Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
• Knight BP: 18 per patch
• Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Feel free to ask us for account specific advice - especially if you buy BP!

[spiral badge]

!faq wpc

[small willow]

Work Points Card

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

Work Points Cards are accumulated by completing Dorm Errands. Their income will scale with your Dorm Level. You can easily buy out the important items in the shop every patch if you do errands daily.

Spending Priority:

1. x2 Crystallums (unless you are in the final patch of a BP season and cannot get anything useful from BP shop).
2. x50 Einstein's Torus
3. x3 Dorm Supply Cards (prioritise higher if you need them for an ongoing spending event).
4. Asterite (only when you need it).
5. Dorm Gacha Type Gamma (purely to boost your dorm level if you are desperate to increase it).

[spiral badge]

i'm sorry for throwing a bunch of FAQs at you. I understand this is alot to take in and i recommend you to save the link to this post to come back to later when you explored and understand the game more

Lastly if you're prepping for future gacha only valks you'll need crystals

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

not sure what you mean. I can't add you in game because we're on different servers.

if you mean on discord then my DMs are already open to non friends but you can add me anyway

i recommend you to continue our discussion and questions here though. There are more resources to access in this server (bot faqs, also pins) and i do need to leave soon, so other people can still help you when i'm gone

[spiral badge]

This looks fine for now. If you have robert peary from beginner event then use that instead.

actually did they change it so beginners get ana now? I vaguely feel dejavu from this but i also feel i'm just making that up lol

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[magic carbon]

thanks :c

[spiral badge]

hm all the teams there uses RC more as a support. You can stick with your current build or use peary, then support RC dps with some combination of JK, Kira, Coralie, or TA for now @green gale

beginner teams are a bit more awkward since your support effects aren't too strong yet, so oftentimes you may see two valks serving as effective damage dealers on the team, even if they're not the same damage type (this idea mainly applies to using TA here who is physical. TA does provide a small all damage type debuff to enemies as long as the shield is up though)

[spiral badge]

glad to help. Feel free to ask if anything confuses you or if you have more questions. Be sure to check out the pins for much more general info as well

be sure to make it clear to anyone else helping you that you're focused on elysia. General advice here will default to meta otherwise which involves focusing on latest releases and expanding your roster rather than on one or a few specific valk. This is because doing well in meta gives you significant crystals in abyss

but being meta isn't the only way to play the game (the game gives you trials for events and story), and paying the cost for these meta valks won't profit if you don't enjoy playing them

[magic carbon]

i just think elysia is v cute

[vivid horizon]

The "5th priority" stigs at #👶beginner-help message are good for her, but only if you have a lot more fuel than prisms, better to make vbm stigs first for instance

[spiral badge]

at any rate i need to go now but as said before, other people can help with any further questions

[magic carbon]

ill miss u

[bright raptor]

||i am praying that valentines ely is the new valk in 8.5 PLSSSS||

[lyric anvil]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
Also spoiler that

[spiral badge]

Please also keep in mind this is a help channel and not a general chat channel. While it's not entirely forbidden and I do understand it can lead to help topics, it's pretty easy for such talks to drive off topic. It's also preferred to keep this channel more free and available for anyone else that may be waiting for an opportunity to ask, wary of it being scrolled off and missed.

late response i know. Anyway nothing too serious and hopefully those explanations are reasonable + understandable if anyone does catch this response.

[frosty kernel]

So i just reach lvl 50 and there are weps that you can upgrade into Pri-arms. I wonder if you do it for a weapon that is had a baseline of really good/new only?

[sweet flax]

not quite sure what you mean

[frosty kernel]

there so many options of weapon you can do to PRI-arms, like domain of ego/void for example. I wonder if those weapons are worth to upgrade

[shell basin]

Pri arm mats are relatively rare and so are Honkai shards so try to save them for new releases

[sweet flax]

yes upgrading a wepaon into a pri-arm is worth the upgrade, but older weapons that are not used anymore (like elysia's old weapon domain of ego, or hov's weapons domain of the void) are not worth upgrading

[shell basin]

Where the added buffs will get you more crystals in abyss

[frosty kernel]

ah gotcha

[shell basin]

You’ll get more than you need of both but not enormously more

[sweet flax]

also its worth noting that beginners/players under lvl 81 (who havent broken through) are unable to upgrade pri-arms beyond lvl 50

[frosty kernel]

i was kinda tempted to upgrade my DoE if i had enough cuz you know idk how long the flawless benediction is going to rerun

[sweet flax]

you picked domain of ego from the box ?

[frosty kernel]

Yeah, cuz i grab Hohe

[sweet flax]

hohe doesnt use that weapon anymore

and she cant be used in p2 with it

[frosty kernel]

well what option do i have?

[sweet flax]

the 2 support weapons that help hohe

and can also be used in other teams such as rc's chakram

[frosty kernel]

ahh i see

[sweet flax]

well anyways its not a big deal

you are going to eventually ignore those weapons

[frosty kernel]

yeah i know, it just for the time being till i get higher

oh yeah to get the chars, wep and stigmatas. I think you need like around 30k crystals right?

[sweet flax]

30k crystals when going into the patch to be on the safe side
the closer to 40k the better

[frosty kernel]

gotcha

[frosty kernel]

i wonder if i get enough for this patch. Well for new player i guess i can get enough right?

[frosty kernel]

ah thanks

[sweet flax]

new players should be able to make enough to get 2 valks back to back (2 back to back patches ofc, not back to back banners)

there's a pin with 1 time crystal sources that can be used as reference on where to get crystals

#👶beginner-help message

[frosty kernel]

Damn thats a lot

oh yeah speaking of which, i just unlocked the ER feature too and there is like weekly stages you can do. Is it gonna take a while to unlock those?

[sweet flax]

depends if you are talking about deep sequence or shallow sequence

shallow sequence is just 3 quick runs that shouldnt take more than a minute per run, each valk has their own shallow sequence

deep sequence is done once a week for clearance rewards (3 times a week for insignia cap, although you could just do 2 full runs and exit early on the 3rd)

deep sequence runs takes on average 5-10 minutes depending on gear, but players with more experience and optimal signets are able to clear it just above 2 minutes on average

also worth noting that if you only care about the crystals then you just need to do 2.25x difficulty for all the crystal rewards in deep sequence

[frosty kernel]

i guess both? you need to do the story first right so i just wondering if its gonna take a while to unlock those

you know for the weekly rewards

[sweet flax]

story is independant from the deep and shallow sequence, you can do it at your own pace

although its been a while so I cant 100% remember if you needed to complete a bit of chapter 1 of elysian realm to unlock deep sequence, if you do then you unlock it very early on

[frosty kernel]

ah i see, gotcha

[amber cedar]

hi, should i craft coralie tsiovalky stig? i had enough to craft full set. im new player. i have 4/4 new coralie. dont have anything else to build so far

[ancient needle]

At what level are your FDD's stigs rn? And how many Prisms do you have (including dupe stigs)?

Generally speaking it would be recommended, but the issue is that 8.5 is very likely to require to upgrade 2 stig sets

Which is expensive

[amber cedar]

FDD all is lvl 50. Prism and dupes around 8 total.

[amber cedar]

2 stigs set?

[amber cedar]

yeah i see

[ancient needle]

8.5 is anniversary, and on them we usually get valk + weap + a new gear set for an old valk

The old valk in question could be given away for free in some way, we don't know yet

[storm lantern]

is there any chance they decide to be funny and not give out the valk with dkey

[lyric anvil]

Depends if they have the Valk for the new gear

[ancient needle]

Essentially it's best to wait for about a week until we have more info

[lyric anvil]

Yeah

[shell basin]

I'm so low on prisms myself... not looking forward to upgrade decisions next patch

[ancient needle]

That's when CN public beta should drop

[shell basin]

I had to craft 2 stigs this patch which was rough

[lyric anvil]

||Beta V2||

[sweet flax]

is it the lucky kind of need to craft 2 stigs or extremely unlucky

[shell basin]

Lucky, but bad for my prisms

[sweet flax]

true

but early weapon is always appreciated in terms of crystals

[amber cedar]

i see. understood. thanks

[lyric anvil]

Honkai Shards too if you're low on them

[sweet flax]

was a dkey teased?

[ancient needle]

Not yet

[shell basin]

See sure but this is the worst patch to get early wep in, wish I'd had this luck on peregrine sword so I could have wasted the crystals backpulling badum

[lyric anvil]

Not yet

[ancient needle]

They don't tease dkeys at all I think

[lyric anvil]

||We just find out from people in Beta||

[frosty kernel]

wait is anniversary?? thats gonna be a big patch

[dry python]

Ngl getting weapon early this patch made me run out of prisms

[dry python]

It would be hilarious ngl

[storm lantern]

i'd smile

[dry python]

God I hope it's not fov anyone who didn't pull her on debut with ranks would be so far behind in nirv

Well assuming there's a dkey anywya

[sweet flax]

wouldnt that apply to basically every p1 valk at this point

although ye, fov banner was so cheap everyone pulled ranks

[dry python]

It would be even worse than normal though you don't get it

[shell basin]

If it is FoV surely they would announce it early to get everyone to buy battle pass… I guess they could get it next patch

[dry python]

Like, with hofi most people now have her s2

That's reasonable, for the most part

[sweet flax]

not really a reason to rush, she's gonna be available in the pass for another 2 patches

[dry python]

For fov, assuming you didn't have her, people would have ss1 while you had s0

Hell, even hoh was more "accessible" since she's been given out for free more times

Assuming you were around then

[sweet flax]

I was, ive been here since launch just newer account

[dry python]

But even if you were around since fov debut you would've had to pull her since she wasn't ever free

So like

[sweet flax]

I cant really remember fov release though since I went on hiatus, but I remember her banner being super cheap so I assume that's the reason for her high ranks among players?

[dry python]

[dry python]

It was the gear bonus banner

Pull 190 times on expa supply = 4/4 for free

So free ranks basically

[sweet flax]

[dry python]

S3 guaranteed, SS very likely

But p2 release was the very next patch after, so many opted not to pull

And it fucking sucked because they ran rimestar so many times

[sweet flax]

damn

well if it is fov, I now know what I need to do with that shitty stamp box ive been saving

[dry python]

It was the same with silverwing and htr btw which is why so many people had s2/ss htr

Well, before htr stamps were so abundant ig

[sweet flax]

fair enough ig

[gloomy acorn]

as for hhe it was just ely simp moment on launch so SS was commonplace in cn

[lone crater]

fov dkey unplayable

[minor dawn]

I have this laying around for some reason?😭 what should i do with it i have no hofi do i js get her from bp

I might be the first person to have weapons without knowing

[storm lantern]

huh did u forget to buy her from spending event or something

[fallen shale]

tf

give

[minor dawn]

I got too lucky

[storm lantern]

whether u should get hofi depends on what units u already have

[minor dawn]

So i didn’t have enough currency

For hofi

[storm lantern]

atp u start rolling for s2/ss vita but whats done is done

[minor dawn]

That’s

True

[storm lantern]

what ws/roo do u have

and do u have trio

[minor dawn]

Coralie s rank is s2

Lucky ten pull

[storm lantern]

yeah get hofi

[minor dawn]

I have a problem in this game called getting back getting too lucky so now i have nothing to pull for

[minor dawn]

So from bp?

[storm lantern]

yes

[minor dawn]

Okkk thanks

[storm lantern]

delaying 2 dkeys is worth having a team for fdd shill

do u buy bp?

[minor dawn]

no

I have uhm

[storm lantern]

is thel from carnival then

[minor dawn]

Two balls rn

[minor dawn]

Returnee

[storm lantern]

oh right

[minor dawn]

That was a lucky pull too😭

[storm lantern]

well since u get 5 balls a patch ur not getting her while she's still relevant

[minor dawn]

No weapon tho i can’t spend to get the pulls

[storm lantern]

can give up on her and its fine imo

[minor dawn]

Aw

So i just save balls for the next dkeys?

[storm lantern]

i mean maybe coralie still has bosses then u can hold off on buying dkeys but i'm skeptical

[minor dawn]

Dkeys users*

[storm lantern]

yeah likely the best option

[storm lantern]

i doubt whoever gets the 8.5 dkey will be in reserve works and i wouldnt pull with your ball count even if they are

[minor dawn]

Aren’t balls permanent now tho

[storm lantern]

yeah but it doesnt matter you dont get to use them until way after release

[minor dawn]

True

Then what the hell do you fo with balls😭

Upgrade the dkey users you alr have?

[storm lantern]

get more dkeys or save for new dkeys to get added

hohe and hofi stamps are a worse investment atp

[minor dawn]

So i should look out for hohe dkey or no?

[storm lantern]

no

[minor dawn]

[quiet oxide]

who can i use as 3rd teammate for dragon coraloe when i only have vita

[minor dawn]

The girl herself

[wintry wharf]

the other coralie

[lyric anvil]

Coralie supports Coralie

[opal ingot]

Wtf 2 coralies

[frosty kernel]

dude i ben wondering should i craft coralie weapon so i can use her yesterday and i realized you can get it for free on part 2 missions lmao

[quick birch]

you can't craft it anyway but yeah it's free from p2 story

[frosty kernel]

you can tho

[quick birch]

you can't

if you're talking about the things in the asterite shops that's only for synergy

[frosty kernel]

calm baby weapon

its craftable

[thick bolt]

this is A rank cora sig from p2 story

[frosty kernel]

oh yeah i guess its different

[thick bolt]

calm baby's only use is being a stat stick (kinda useless since cora sig is free)

[frosty kernel]

ah good thing i didnt then lol

[whole cradle]

hi i have hofins genesis gun but i only have her t piece. is it worth crafting the iskandar set?

[dry python]

iskandar useless without dkey

[whole cradle]

i see

[analog root]

returning player that have no idea what has happened. got this a long time ago but dont know who i should pick, can anyone give recommendations?

[fallen shale]

Does FDD's SP do anything?

I've noticed it does build like other characters but is basically just always fully spent by ult regardless of how much you have

[upbeat egret]

Fdd sp should not matter AFAIK

[outer spruce]

it does a little bit but not really noticeable

[fallen shale]

So at 20sp it's already at max power?

Sounds like PS' 150 combo reset thing where it basically never doesn't just do the max damage

[outer spruce]

there's also this when you activate SO but you're pretty much always going to do ult at max power

[fallen shale]

So it "matters" but not in a way where I'll need to think about it

[wispy aurora]

There been any news on IF the Supply Shop will be changing at all?

[abstract sequoia]

haven't seen anything so far, also looking for other stamps

and if they're bad, I'll just max HoH i guess?

[wispy aurora]

Kinda sadge like I could buy the HoHe but is there much point (S Rank right now)

[abstract sequoia]

her SS is good

consider pure witch orb stamps too as well as reserve works

[wispy aurora]

Maybe however even if I buy all the stamps she will only get to S2

[abstract sequoia]

s2 is also a powerspike

[wispy aurora]

Don't have Pure witch orbs yet...

[abstract sequoia]

mine is that now, not quite enough for nirvana I'm afraid

[abstract sequoia]

its a long term thing either way. how far are you away from it?

like, whats your highest ranked war treasury valk?

[wispy aurora]

Quite I'd say?

[proud tangle]

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[wispy aurora]

Highest I got is S2 HoT and HoR

[abstract sequoia]

ouch..

[wispy aurora]

Like Im having to buy Valks from WT atm to get them for ER

I have the Valk box from 8.2 and an egg still

Which holding on to for a rainy day

[abstract sequoia]

okay pwo shop is out of the question

[wispy aurora]

These are the S ranks I got left

[abstract sequoia]

i mean the only part where HoH rank matters is on her WoD leader cycles

and really, you'll do fine with S0/S2

only nirvana wants more

[wispy aurora]

I barely use her as I still need to 65 her wep and 50 her stigma

[abstract sequoia]

well that's because she is rarely used

[abstract sequoia]

unfortunately the worst LoA and GoI support

compared to everyone else

mostly because her entire skill tree is only self-dps. that's why her dps cycles are good though

[quick birch]

she's not even a bad GoI support just a bit slow and generally better than dudu there

[wispy aurora]

Im just stingy with rescources fr

[abstract sequoia]

not even bad, but still the worst with symbiosis tag

[quick birch]

i'd say dudu is worse

[abstract sequoia]

you sure?

[quick birch]

she's really solid in goi

only thing that held her back was fws ps speed, her self dmg is nerfed on meele weather or we needed HC

|| seeing 8.5 she's prob one of her best supports ||

[abstract sequoia]

you're right with her being solid. its just what she competes with

[quick birch]

yeah and i'd say she's still better than dudu

[abstract sequoia]

i forgot dudu has no WA SP gain in outburst

why would they even do that to her

[quick birch]

she has Charged attack sp regen

[abstract sequoia]

oh okay

[sweet flax]

she can finally use the other half of her buffs

[abstract sequoia]

hoyo was probably scheming about how to make her better

[wispy aurora]

Me getting into Nirv probably wont be for a while anyways as last couple of weeks I forgot how to use my fingers and until last SSD was close to demote

Got #2 Last cycle but was #1 Until I got sniped and in the current cycle im #1

[outer spruce]

now we just need someone to actually use Lantern's phys WS buffs

[sweet flax]

lmfao I forgot about that

inb4 next ws character is a quantum unit

[abstract sequoia]

quantum physical

[sweet flax]

the return of susannah

[abstract sequoia]

[analog root]

is this a one time thing for returning players or does this happen with every banner?

[sweet flax]

every debut banner has it

[analog root]

what is a debut banner, and is it worth doing the discounted pulls for each one?

[abstract sequoia]

debut means newly released valkyrie

[sweet flax]

debut banners are the first banner a valkyrie gets

[thick bolt]

first banner of a new release
most of the time yes if pity >50

[sweet flax]

there is 1 per patch usually and this patch is fdd

[analog root]

oooo ic thank you guys

[austere umbra]

what teams can i use for MA?

[abstract sequoia]

fdd/paws/vita, fdd/paws/vbm

[river ruin]

is there any way to get the other Bridge setups beside the base one and the Part 2 one? some say "event" and I assume those are inaccessible for good, but the others say "mall" and I have no idea what that means.

[ancient needle]

Once a year we get a shop with bridges, that's what "Mall" refers to

All bridges except Arc City cost 1200 xtals iirc

Arc City needs you to pay up though

[ancient needle]

Or maybe more, idr for sure

[river ruin]

so the two mall ones you can get once a year, but the other two are permablocked? was just checking. i get a little tired of part 2 at this point but also would rather not be looking at clouds all the time lol

thanks

[ancient needle]

Wait

iirc the last shop had the event bridges as well

[austere umbra]

who should i use to clear ER the quickest

[sweet flax]

a rank helia if you have her weapon is the fastest

otherwise it doesnt make that big of a difference, playstyle and signets wise the rest can achieve similar times to each other

[austere umbra]

whats her weapon? how do u get it?

[sweet flax]

electrifying arc, you either have it or you dont its not obtainable anymore

you can also try with lds or paws weapon since they have high base atk, but wont be as good of a result

[abstract sequoia]

all part 1 bridges were in there

[sterile bluff]

anyone got past building the dreamy workshop? I maybe missed one amber from yesterday, else im hardstuck until tomorrow

[green gale]

Is ch.26-31 worth doing?

[spiral badge]

It's just more story like any other. If you don't feel like doing it, the rewards can always be permanently obtainable later.

If you mean if the story is good or not, we cannot help with that. That is subjective and up to you to decide for yourself. One person's opinions may not match with your own but generally many people enjoy the HI3's main story. If you want to hear details and don't mind spoilers then ask #📚honkai-lore (any story details are also not allowed here as per pins)

[green gale]

I remember them being long and I don't know if I want to play through them again

I'll probably just skip through most of it

[spiral badge]

nothing wrong with that. If you ever want to revisit the story then you can always watch another person's playthrough on youtube too

some chapters may offer some kind of replaying but it's not going to be quite the same as going through it the first time. The game may not archive everything either

[left vale]

is time capsule like... a thing anymore? where is it lmfao

[quick birch]

Last 2 were at CN Ani and CNY so maybe expect this to become a pattern

[left vale]

i missed out on ovt T

[somber fable]

If a battlesuite isnt the dps in an astral ring team is her wep still important to have?

[sweet flax]

its good practice to always pull the valk with her weapon regardless, there are some supportive utility locked behind weapon but ultimately the stigmata set is the main source of buffs for a p2 valk

[left vale]

usually the difference between F2P alternative and sig isn't huge in terms of support, but it's still a pretty sizeable gap. you may be able to get away with no weapon on a valk in RL when using her as support, but you cant use her as a DPS. you should always pull weapons

[outer spruce]

you have the box that gives ovt T now right?

[left vale]

no

what box is that?

[outer spruce]

the one from the space ranger minigame

[somber fable]

I just asked because i missed badums wep and wondered if i could still play her in the new elysia team

[left vale]

you can use her, but her weapon does offer quite a few support buffs that you'll be missing
also i believe we have to spoiler ||new ely||

[outer spruce]

this one

[left vale]

no

is the minigame still out and you can get it?

[somber fable]

Didnt they announce she is grail of infinitude

[left vale]

it's only announced in CN it's not announced in GLB afaik

[somber fable]

Oh ok

[outer spruce]

the minigame is still here but the box was a limited time prize i think

[left vale]

eh whatever then
not like i have any use for ovt T anyway

[left vale]

what team are you using?

use Valkyrie Blastmetal instead of Kira

yes

[shell basin]

Yes. Dkey elie has really bad dps outside of AR

[left vale]

you can also get her SSS and 4/4 for free

you can get weapon from p2 story and craft her stigmata

[shell basin]

and VBM can both buff and let her reach AR faster

even at level 1 VBM's stigmatas will be very helpful

on which note what stigmas is RC using?

[left vale]

glossary in pins

[shell basin]

Reverist Calico, Pardofelis

And Shigure Kira is the same?

[silver patio]

Can someone explain to me wat battle suits are..? Im a returnee idk how this game works..

[shell basin]

Battlesuits are the characters you build and pull for. They’re seperate from character names because each character can have multiple battlesuits

[silver patio]

Is there any difference in power?

[shell basin]

Kiana and Bronya have like 20 each say

Yes, newer battlesuits tend to be much better

For instance with Kiana, Badum Fiery Wishing Star is stronger than Herrscher of Finality is stronger than white comet

Check out the CN spoilers channel but we’re not allowed to talk abt it here

[silver patio]

Oh im sorry

[shell basin]

I assume you don’t have turg or Jin shengtan but if you do feel free to correct me. Do you have fu hua musician?

[silver patio]

Whats the differenc between spcyrene and elysia?

[shell basin]

They’re totally different people from different worlds but they’re in some sense alternate version of each other, like Prometheus and Bronya are. You want #📚honkai-lore I think

[silver patio]

Whos stronger

[shell basin]

Also a q for Honkai lore

[silver patio]

Ohp

[silver patio]

also another question

What are theese A and B in my characters?

[shell basin]

Those are the ranks of your characters. As you collect more fragments (or pull more copies from a gacha) you can rank a character up, which will make them stronger and unlock more skills. It goes B->A->S->…->SS->…->SSS at the top. Most battlesuits start at A or S, but a handful of story Valkyries like white comet start at B

Generally speaking battlesuits that start at S are stronger than battlesuits that start at A but being newer can override this and not all battlesuits are created equal

Plus this doesn’t consider synergy

[silver patio]

Is seele vollerei decent for now?

[shell basin]

She will do fine in clearing story for you but she’s not competitively viable anymore for hard content

Assuming you mean the A ranked seele battlesuit swallowtail phantasm

[silver patio]

Lemme check..

Yes

[shell basin]

(There’s other seeles but I’m pretty sure that’s the one you would have)

[silver patio]

Whens the banner official announcement?

[shell basin]

for next patch's new release?

[silver patio]

Ye

[slim blaze]

5 weeks later

I guess

[shell basin]

For NA and sea and such it'll probably get announced in about 5 weeks, a bit after beta test starts. CN has had their beta test start now

because they're a few weeks ahead of the other servers

[slim blaze]

No they aint. Glb just has precognition powers

[silver patio]

How many chapters does this game have