#👶beginner-help
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yeah, thanks heaps!
👍
no more cope finally 🙏
how is my attack getting lower with every message you send lmfao
ye
Ss?
no
S?

Hofi carry
surely
So I know dragon coralie and paws are good on the same team but who should be my 3rd slot considering I don’t have vita?
vbm
vbm or hofi+dkey
Small coralie or hofi
Whose vbm?
A rank cora
Small coralie
glossary in pins
pls halp. I cant seem to press ult to end her SO
Got it thanks
This is normal..I got same issue
But it should not matter
knock back interrupts this?
am I misunderstanding the issue because you went out of so...
Im looking at a run and they cancel it early which gives them more ARI
which aop rank
SSS
I am doing same run as you
It should not matter actually
I still got the 47920
oh ye, how should I split my teams for ma, id assume fdd lp hofi on boss 1 but what about boss 2 since I wont have vita for it 
hohe?
Your chenchen is sss right?
Hoh thelema sena
probably HoHe thel yea
yes but I think i just figured it out. I let go of attack really early and it worked
👌
Hi, since FDD attacks aren't considered ranged nor melee, she can't trigger buffs like the 2nd to last one here right? And also any signets that require meele/ranged
i'm actually not quite sure since her dmg just isnt meele but her attacks should still be considered meele since for example sushang could parry andrius which requires meele attacks though idk if the clause " dealing dmg with" makes her not trigger the buff
regarding the buff specifically she'll still trigger it since her ult deals dmg
ok got the 920, that wasnt too bad
Pro
Should I pull Chenxue? I have 10k xtals and got the...armor helia and dragon coralie (fuc idk the proverb)
Oh interesting, yeah

Eh ill just take this buff and hope it works 
@quick birch I have a separate question if you don't mind, so SS Chen has the extra passive for GOI where it gives 200 SP when triggering SO
I was thinking about PAWs leader rot and I dont really see where this extra 200 SP helps in the team rot
since it does feel like normal PAWs team rot in SO already had enough SP to do everything
SS chen 
makes you skip 1 sp regen in SO so you only need to ult on the supports
Look I got S in 5 pulls so it tempted me to keep going 
ainoway
Would only ulting on supp increase total dmg output in a stage? Is it because when they're not the leader, them taking more field time is less overall dps
HELP yeah this is me
I have only recently tried to actually do proper rot so im kind of new to trying to optimize it more than just ungabunga 
yeah, the other SP regen move would just increase their onfield time as a support, normally you'd do ult on both supports and then 1 SP regen attack, depends on the support what that is, so SS just let's you skip that
Ahh I see thank you
@gaunt oak bozo come here
Mango the goat answered us
I may have accidentally tempted him to pull SS Chen too



the main value out of SS chen is prob ari regen + SO cd reduction though idk how much you can utilize that in RL
You likely just do 1 SO in RL
maybe also assaka or was that giga paper in RL as well
i just know that paws bosses are usually chonky in nirv
no idea about RL
Rather than it specifically making me score higher in RL, its more like these upgrades help make up for some of my skill issue score loss 
you have propper teams now can prob just follow refs for the next bosses 
🫡
I need 50 more frags for SSS vbm 
Henlo. Should I pull for dragon coralie if I don't have ignite or PAWS?
it rather depends on your current crystal count and if you can afford her + weapon, 2 other RoOs units should be enough for RL and coralies main value lies in her supportive capabilities anyway
I' confused.. i got a 4* rocket hammer "Draconic Sky-scorching fury" from gacha but my counter still says "55 pulls left until recommended weapon" .. so is this not the recommended weapon?? D:
was it in a 10x ? if yes the pulls after that also already count towards the pity counter
Oh so pity for weapon is 60?
you got the signature weapon and the leftover extra pulls you did are now rolling over to your next sig weapon
yes
ohhh makes sense... ! 
what sp regen 
i may or may not be reading kits
🧱
in SO you want your supports to regen SP for helia after she did 3ults and her CA
oh like their WA?
supports regen SP through ult and 1 other attack that then depends on the valk
Yes
yeah fws and sus do it through their WA for example
In Badum's and PS's case that is
so it's like 1-2s skip i guess
That's a lot of pts
they also ult to regen shining trace but you can't really experiment with shining trace regen atm so this is just if you really want to understand every aspect of a valks kit
her main value is ari regen same as SS teri
though S teri was def better in LoA than S chen is in GoI
so i can swap to SS chenxue for regen?
my theresa only S 🧍♂️
only in GoI and RoO
oh you sounded like you had SS teri
their ari regen is locked to specific ring types
they being teri and chenxue
just now that S teri is enough even for nirvana
wait im broke yea im saving for ||pink jesus revival||
does FDD particularly synergize with any signet set in ER?
with paws and PS it was a little more obvious which ones, but im not as sure about FDD
WA signets?
Hi guys which gives more crystals faster p1 or p2?
hi plant
hi where is your FDD? 
P1 before OW chapters by a long shot
Ow?
should i pull
Open World
not sure if shes good for my account 
That's from Chapter 24 or 25 iirc
chat what conditions are needed to pull fdd
Oh ok thx
I'm 100% qualified to answer you, for real
Have enough xtals for both 8.4 and 8.5
i have
Good, go ahead
8.5 is anni
but patches are long so
12k rn
Oh 
LOL

Yeah, you're forced to skip
😭
BUT
i have character guaranteed in 10
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!
Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!
why also 8.5
are we getting fdd teammate at 8.5

8.5 is anni, anni good and expensive
does this help me
anni, no?
fdd will most likely be a support for 8.5 and anni valks are usually very good
🧑🌾 
Do you have that? @upper oracle
uhm
not really 
i spent 14k on chenxue bc you peer pressured me 
he's oldge returnee acc
but p2 ig


does weapon banner pity carry or no
hoyo kinda has a thing for dependency chains i dont think we had any recent patches that broke said chain though this is still just a speculation
Yes
oh
you peer pressured yourself after I told you I bandwagoned onto ss 
Try 10-20 pulls on the weap banner ig (assuming 60 pity rn)
50% off on 10pull on char too right
fuck me i got 3 stigs in 1 10 but no weapon
ok
Are there no "source prisms" in the shop for the version? Like idk to buy with asterite or stuff like that...
Only in Supply Shop, but not recommended
?!
Great, grab Cora and enjoy
pog now we get cora enjoy
ok

Mhh this is a bit of a problem... i barely have enough for 1 more set of stigmata then 

inb4 coin and mat drought from maxing cora

maybe bc he's returnee acc it has mats
Yeah, no good instant sources for Prisms unfortunately
Outside of salvaging dupes
Returnee is shit
nvm @upper oracle good luck friend

worth it for possible synergy with 8.5 anni unit 
Can't complain lah, got lucky on the weap
surely 6k xtal enough
do we have approx xtal gain for this patch

dependency chain has to start somewhere, like in hsr
23k assuming RL
this include monthly?
wait fuck i just demoted 
how much if +monthly
Monthly is +3130 per month
around how much do we need for anni? surely 30k is enough?
unless we're getting another spending then im cooked 
generally want 45k for big spending event
did past anni's have nicer value bundles in shop?
ladies and gentlemen, we're cooked
is AO usefull on S or its always better pull untill SS?
just have luck like coffin did
plant quick fund me
wher internship money?
you can't lucksack spending event
you need to actually spend
went to rent 
oh spending event
is it similar to this patch's spending event?
Suffering from success
hopefully spending event doesnt have good shit in the shop that i want
I partially pulled chen because I had a ways left to go in this spending event
fking hell 450 AE gone
7.8 big spending event looked like this #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
ah thank you! I will take a look
75k it's all joever
In Chenxue's case it depends on the ring
im omega broke now
Ain't good at S for RoO, but for GoI she's okay
oh they gave out a whole battlesuit last year
At the time, was HoF recent or was she still considered old by then? (trying to guess how valuable it would be if they had another free specific battlesuit reward)
In your case S is enough (if pulling in the first place)
RoO is Coralie ?
oh
Both new and old Coralie are RoO, but the old one can't be a DPS
hey guys new player just pulled the new limited character should i go for her weapon too ? and also how to level characters past level 20 xd
- Capital i, not L
- Behold! Fate-Defying Dragon (or FDD for short)
And she's RoO as I've mentioned
Jicama essay ainnoway
she was old but got new gear (divine key) in the same patch to bring her back into meta
I think she's the only case of that though; no other spending event valk has gotten new gear in the same patch
Nvm

🫡 thanks!
Brick was close
Brick in 7.0, free HoS in 7.1

(if pulling in the first place) its mean for first AstralOP? or fisrt pull as for patch?
Guess i anyway need pull FDD
It's about whether you get Chenxue at all
You have to decide whether you wanna chill in RL or to compete in Nirv
horb (8.1 spending valk) still waiting for new gear that may never come
like hofs never got a DK, instead Kiana got a new battlesuit
I also wanna know your current crystal count
I like her a lot too (dont have but)
if i can donwload game today i say more accurate number, but as i remebmer its about 40 231(?)
Im surely knwo that i have 40k 
I don't need the exact number 
Did you alr pull FDD + weap?
no, need donwload, start to work with that problem
Report back when you do then
So, we pull about 1 is best way?
Doesn't really matter
Sp Pity from Main banner save for next?
Yes
Is the new Astral OP worth it for Kiana/Sparkle/Vita team?
She does almost nothing for LoA
And for WS
And you want SS if you wanna run Vita FDD VBm
(not saying that you should)
Or FDD Vita VBm
what are the chances they give out hohe box on anni? 
And Hammer get, also blessed affixes
All 21+ mech and even one rolled 23/23
Wait no, it was 22.7/22.6 and I threw a couple booster things at it to get it maxed
is chenxue good at S or do i need SS
Unlikely imo
Depends on the ring
goi
Please correct me if I’m wrong but does AstralOp having an astral ring tag allow you to only need 2 valkyries in your team to get all 3 astral ring tiers for leader ability
Crit rate buffs tho 
1000% cooked
(for both rings)
No, it doesn't count for leader skill
You're mistaken
What’s the point of AstealOp having astral ring tags
so it supports only dat ring
AstralOps don't have AR tags
the tags are for the rings they support
Ohhhh
that's the ring type the aop is made for
They can support certain AR types, yes, but it's not outright tags
Thank you for the short explanation
i cant wait for my GoI to die because i cant pull this valk
probably my LoA too
oh and my RoO
what are the odds a coralie backpull in the future is worth
Well, 8.5 is anni, can't skip that
And it's too late in 8.6 cuz no future AR type support
if you lucksacc anni valk and spending threshold maybe
probably double release on 8.5 and then 8.6 hopefully a skippable valk
so i can backpull this stupid dragon
i hate this
is there a copium team with fdd with thelema 
FDD and Thele don't work together
i dont have any op past thelema

brick on my account till next patch ig
I mean, ig FDD can be a copium support for Thele
But surely you have smth better
Right?
"op"? not sure what astral ops have to do with it
lemme send my roster brb
battlesuit*
sorry just got off arknights 
@ancient needle
- a bunch of other random valks
Thele Sena FDD it is
fdd, hofi, coralie
you have hfi with dk
use colalie colalie hofi
And that too
Sena Helia Thele too
fdd dps
Assuming full gear ofc
gotcha
hofi dps is strictly trio
sena no weap 
hofi dps is with trio, assuming they are geared
no wp sena support is not that far off from Pi support sena
ah ok
only a couple buffs u miss
Well, gotta pay up for BP rq

(I'm not actually recommending that)
btw would batslana or MC be better for the ring? im assuming batslana
How many stars on Kia?
3 
DS
And which ring exactly did you mean
WoD or RoO
Anyway, it should be situational
Depends on whether you wanna prioritize SO or non-SO damage
(DS for non-SO)

But you do SO faster with DS
for 1 SO runs 3* kia and for long multiple SO fights DS
For the first time
icic
then.. what are the chances of hohe in war treasury? 
is there an elf box in spending?
extremely low
she's been given out for free, has stamps available in like every shop, and is buyable in reserve works
not in this mini one but annivs always did in the past
far too early for that
last WT additions we got were HoFs and mobius we still got a few valks until HoHe
(SPa, PE, DPe, HC)
just save your balls and buy her in reserve works
wonder if supply shop stamps will ever change again 
Probs in 8.5
When was the last time they changed btw?
So is S-Rank Helia the best Coralie support but not the other way around?
I understand 0 of teambuilding but i'm wondering if i can still use sparkle somewhere?
It's both ways
Sparkle can be used with FDD or Helia only if both are supoorting another LoA valk
Which you don't have
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You can check the link at the end for teambuilding
PAWS works with FDD DPS only cuz of her previously locked skill
is vita/PAWS her best team?
Wait but FDD also has the symbiosis tag... so if until today i played old coralie + elyisia with PAWS as the leader, i can replace coralie now yes?
ye
Okay then i actually need to learn the rotation because until now i kinda neglected the whole "free ultimate" aspect for Elysia... 
FDD has symbiosis, shift, and omniscient star tag meaning she can support LoA GoI and RoO
well omniscient star means she can technically support every ring
Isn't that basically RoO
omniscient star is the support tag that corresponds to RoO, yes
Oh omniscient star is a separate thing under RoO 
omniscient star is the tag, RoO is the ring type
wasn't RoOs gimmick that it can be used as support for every ring anyways, seems redundant 
RoO's gimmick is that it has no gimmick
thats a nice gimmick
well there has to be a tag attached to the ring lol
Thank you for ur blessing btw, very grateful-
is it worth spending balls to buy abyss flower
The dkeys are the go to rec barring of course you having other goals when buying bp for bp shop stuff
okok 
How was it?
17 rolls to get valk and weapon
Had to craft stigmata but who cares

Sorry!
yo chat
No problem i am glad that you didn't pity anything like me
S chenchen?
You need to test.. not really sure

nah s chen buffs are already better
oh nice
gimme ref then you help lurker
i'd give you if i had one
damn
RL or nirb?
MA
star what the fork
oh fudge
today's thursday
Star already wants to mald benares
fork*
abyss mandated day off
we should have a mini abyss
rl gets 200 xtals instead of 500 bc it lasts only a day fr
Star ain't the only one
Okay 850 or rip
I might be able to get that in RL
I'll have to see what S2 Dark Lord can do with my not fully upgraded Chenxue 
Prolao
Huh you rolled for s2 dark lord?
what are some team comps for dragon coralie if she's my first p2 valk?
Do you have the other A rank coralie?
yup
And the A rank helia?
yes
Asaprof moment 
You can play them with dragon coralie
any gear needed for them?
Their gear are farmable iirc
Well except VBs' weapon
You can craft them in foundry and you need to do the story for weapon iirc
how important is it?
Fr?
i have 27 prisms and idk whether i should use them to craft tsiolkovsky
Yeah
You can only get VBm's signature weapon but not VBs'
No gear= no damage in abyss and abyss is your main crystal source
Asa answer my qn 
do you think dragon coralie can work with her own? bc i watched gameplay and i noticed the rotations are kinda weird now with p2 valks
I did
do the buffs apply even without switching in the character?
Yeah after I sent that message
Finally 2783637282th try
literally previous message #📿gacha-salt🧂
am sorry let me remove
There are some valkyrie who need to enter the field before the dps for buffs and its also depend on character.. some support don't need to enter field

Bro can't read
Oh nice. Luck buddies
ohh I see
so i got her on discounted 10x but i dont have enough for weap what do i do
does equipment banner also get 50% off or?
No
No
no
can i get it in time???
between a rank coralie and helia which gears should I craft first then? or should I do both instead
Its not recommended to pull a valk if you can not afford her weapon
i know
i didnt think i would get her in the discount 10x
Now you can just pray to get her weapon before the banner ends
The stigs are farmable
surely
i cant even get all of her stigs because i dont have fucking ether fuel 
You can VBm's weapon free in Part 2 Chapter 1-3 story
Don't need to do the full chapters though
Well I wouldn’t craft her stigs yet anyway, she’s not going to be very useful in high level content without her weapon and you might get some stigs while going for the weapon
Unless you have like no part 2 valks ig
shoudl i spend dorm pulls for this spending event?
How many dorm cards do you have
25
Yeah probably spend 20
You need to spend 20 anyways
Definitely can afford 10
You can do 10
you get spending tokens for 10 or 20
don't "need" to get those tokens
There’s probably another spending event next patch that will also want 20 cards so 10 is definitely safe to have enough for that, 20 you might not
Might be worth checking what the extra tokens would get you
But either is justifiable easily
i actually had 27 so i just did 20
Yeah then just don’t spend anymore until next patch and you should be good
yeah that 27 was saved up from the 8.2 spending event onward lol
Oh really? Where besides dorm shop / armada shop / armada, I’m missing a bunch of dorm valks so I want more 😓
Ah
i got coralie in 20 pulls (still need her wep and stigs), but does that mean i likely wont be able to max out the spending event?
If you really want something there like the lantern skin you can go for synergies / ranks / chenxue but it’s not reccomended to do pulls just for event
yeah dkey's are a general atk buff while the syngergy would only benefit teams with the respective valk
yeah i have all the free/accessible dkeys atm
Is this just a free weapon selection?
No, it only allows you to increase the synergy level of a weapon you own.
Is it worth trying to go for?
You don’t pull just for it but if you have the mats to get it it can be solid
If you’re pulling anyway it’s a nice bonus
I would go for D-key over it if you are missing any of the ones in the box. It is generally around a 2% damage increase for a specific battlesuit.
The top pinned message should also talk about if it is worth it.
Is celestial hymn decent? I got her from dorm supply
Most characters from dorm supply are outdated and not worth building
More good for ER Crystals 
^^
Hey for the Rita memorial boss, what's a good rotation for a FDD - Blastmetal - Calisto team
it should be mentioned in the weather description
the what
ER weather description scroll up iirc in game it's called Stage effects
ER crystals?
tldr you get variable arms that fight for you after pickung up a signets from a flamechasers, every flamechaser has their own variable arm
ahhhh
that buff basically makes your valk deal no dmg but let the variable arms clear ER for you
really good if you need to clear inferno with old chars for stamps in ER shop
Crystals that you get gor unlocking and levelling a character in Elysian realm.
Plus their Shallow Sequence
I got coralie + her weap too early, only spent 12.6k and I have 380 of the event currency (that is including the 20 dorm pulls). Is it worth it to pull for chenxue? I normally go up and down in nirvana cause I dont own any astral ops besides ds.
Im also missing a bunch of dkeys so I guess the box would help
tho even if I hit pity for her idk if I will have enough to get the box
Well, you need to spend 13k more to get enough currency (assuming you alr done your 20 Dorm pulls)
The question is whether you go for S or SS
S is trash
Yeah, but SS can be expensive
Better to go for ss if you want to pull her
so for it to be meta it needs to be SS?
ig it's still enough for 8.5
How competitive are you?
Nirvana top 50- 100?
As in "are you interested in actually competing"
I go into nirvana and stay there for maybe 2 cycles
Or do you Nirv bounce just by chance
yeah I want to retain
Can you list/show your properly geared P2 valks jic?
Are u interested in top 50-100? Or just retaining nirvana is fine
Asa must I skip chenchen 
all p2 valks have their weapons and sushang is s2 cause I got lucky in 1 pull lol
Yeah, ok, pretty solid
This question remains tho
I didn't get paid out
I'm contacting staff tmr
No chenchen is enough in RL but you are cooked in nirvana
Cuz #👶beginner-help 🗿

No sorry.. I know sometime you slack
is 8.5 10 weeks?
tbf in NA t100 pretty much = retain 
yes
Nah, bro, you can T100 but demote

The point still stands tho 
right it's retain > t100
so how long should the banners last for the 10 week patch then? 7 days longer than normal?
We don't know
just retain I guess, the thing that is important for me is that if I were to SS her would I have enough for 8.5?
prob 6 weeks debut valk 4 weeks random reruns
So for grail I'm perma demote?
bruh
just speculations though
yeah im fucked
It depends on your luck... the safe way would be to skip her if you want enough for 8.5
Yes
SS is 33.5k tops, and you'll earn 23k if F2P RL+
just keep up with #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion we should get 8.5 scheduel like half way into 8.4
prob a bit earlier
Paws weather and coralie weather... you will be cooked
Surely you're saying that Cay is cooked cuz he's SEA 
how much worse is support FDD at 3/4 compared to 4/4
Is it that bad
I don't think anyone even tests that atp
Didn't bother testing you'll have to find out yourself
Yes
Wtf
30% less damage
i dont know what to do
i know i can get the wp in 42 days but im kinda fucked for 8.5 then
"Kinda" is an understatement
like 15-10% depends on the team according to wyverein
Asa is no Chen really that bad 
Yeah chenchen I too op
Wtf
Definitely not
Wait are you fr how mmay points fdo I lose on average
Damage comparaison are fraud because its only in one rotation
If you do 3 rotation the damage gap will be bigger
I do more than one rot tho smh
But also ^
it's an okay baseline though ofc the difference won't be the same for every boss
You really need to test the damage comparaison on boss
this is what crystal income calculator says for 15 weeks
Ok
10-15% less damage is nothing tbh
Asa does no Chen make me lose like 30 points or wat
It's very notable, no?
At least with Brick it was enough to make it awful on Fish
Probably more since you will need more basic with helia
Ofc it's not as bad as other P2 valks, but still
this is not dps btw
Oh
this is support
Yeah, DPS is cooked then
is there any salvaging my grail cycles
dps is ~40%
Guide crystals, hope you're supposed to get 15k
P2 valk with 3/4 are losing so much dps ..look at what the 3 set stig can offer
i started a new acc a few days ago and was told to go for fdd but i did 50 pulls and still haven’t gotten her lol. i obv have nothing good on that account so should i reroll for her to save crystals or just thug it out?
I was trying it on tank ... 762 vs 640
I don't do 5 guides a patch and either way my rater is being a strict mf so I don't even hit the 3k per
You can reroll if you wanna
But it's not necessary
You can reroll if you want to but you'll get her before end of patch even if you dont
I forgot that I had Beethoven b on latern
Isn't 15k the max for 1 guide?
What is "3/4"guys?
just a question of how hard u want to mald
I dont wanna say more but if you want I can dm
Or was it lowered
Sure
Having 3 sig pieces of equipment out of 4
3 out of 4 signature gear normally referring to no sig weapon since stigs are craftable
hmm i might thank you! is 20 minutes still the most effective for making a reroll account?
Should be less rn
Depends on how quick you are too
Cuz discounted 10x and maintenance rewards
can you just play the tutorial do the discounted 10x and then dip and make a new acc
Yes
Although
Nah, probs not enough
Not sure tbh
do i have to buy the fragments for VB? since i wont have any other p2 valks to put with fdd?
Didn't they say we gonna get 5 pulls? Where they at?
on Saturday
I figured it wouldn't be right away, ty for answering
- VB is ambiguous, cuz there are 3 valks that fit: Valkyrie Bladestrike, Valkyrie Boltstorm and Valkyrie Blastmetal
- I assume you meant VBm, the answer is "yes"
it'd be VBs, no?
The acronyms are VB, VBs and VBm respectively
VBm is already free
It would be, but it isn't
@ancient needle could i use these cards for rerolling or is it only available for saturday?
you can use them on saturday
There could be a level requirement too
The general requirement for events is around lvl 30
i meant boltstorm! i alr know mini coraline is free
coralie*
Yeah, she's worth getting too
ahh i see
It actually should be mentioned in the News tab in-game
iirc
Login events might not have that requirement
regardless the discount should help like you mentioned. thank you for helping!
So 20 seconds of gameplay /s
Consider doing 15 pulls in that case if you are to reroll on Saturday
gotcha
how much time i sleep? teammate have st professor role now? 😭
anyways, should i supply for the new valk? she is good?
my xtals
she is very good
RoO ignite DPS + GoI breach support + LoA breach support + RoO support
She's still a breach support for Vita
Question, who would be the main dps in a team with Fdd paws and vbm
depends on who's the leader
Depends on weather really
in p2 teams leader = dps
so depending on the boss you'd want either paws or fdd to be the leader both can be a dps and a support
VBm stays support
True 
Less joke ideas in beginner help plox kthnx
Is FoV still viable?
I'm planning on getting the battle pass aiming to get her to SSS from SS0
Depends on what you mean by "viable"
Topscore-wise she's extremely niche
In RL she should be decent for general purposes
I think she technically has bosses+weather combo but they basically never run
Assuming you have her BiS team that is
HoTr Sparkle
Still the most viable Fu Hua
With ranks on HoTr (ideally SS)
I have Hotr but no ranks or set 😔
rip
I use her with cn and sparkle
even ae over cn would be better 😭 you have like 1 second of uptime between buffs
super long sparkle ult cooldown
Okay, idk about that
I don't think you're old enough to have CN gear tho
I start with FoV. Evasion attack, switch to CN, skill then ult, then switch to sparkle, skill then ult to FoV. Then do whatever
I'm not expert at HI3 but thats what I usually do
What should I do with duplicate stigmata, like I got some of the same new coralie stigmata should I just leave em?
You can leave them first if you don't need prism material and salvage them when you need it
Finally hit lvl50 & Unlocked,
Time to speed run Elysian Realm
i have 150000
from skipping LoA valks. It might be a good idea to get for ignite RoO
150k... 😭 my guy you can pull the next 6 valks back to back
bro swimming in xtals
how many xtals would you need for 8.5 if there's a major spending event?
40-45k
That's assuming the spending event rewards are actually worth pursuing
You might not need to spend the entirety of that sum depending on how your pulls go
what would be considered rewards worth pursuing?
another HoFi situation where they release a dkey and put the associated valk (who you don't have) as a milestone
If, for example, we get an LV dkey and you don't have LV, she would be worth pursuing
Like, for example, HoFi was worth getting from the spending event in 7.8
Maybe another dkey box, but that shouldn't be that expensive
outside of such a situation unless theres a dkey box/s for some reason there isn't anything "worth" to spend purposefully for, let the rewards come as they do
jinx
alr ty
guys skin or get the box with the weapons? also i did get coralie 4/4 with S2
tbh i dont like lantern's maid skin
DKey box
skins have no competitive advantage, its personal preference
what about this?
synergy cards yield very very small increases to the valk's damage and is often ignorable, dkeys will provide permanent long term value
during next spending patch if i get up valk 4/4 should i still aim for the one in spending shop?
spending shop should be seen as a bonus, not a goal for how many crystals to spend, however it depends on the rewards as well, there is a good example of such cases mentioned a few messages above
generally speaking though if you get a 4/4 valk and dont see the benefit of continuing to pull its better to save crystals instead
hopefully my bad luck will turn in my favor and i can build pity😭
if there's a decent p2 valk in the spending shop and i get her, how will i get her weapon?
so far such cases havent happened, the closest case to this is hofi who was in the spending event during the same time her dkey was running on a banner
oooh
though most cases would be similar to the last spending event, where the valk is just there (horb)
Yeah
who do u guess we will see in spending event
though I guess horb gear was in bp during that time
Who knows what 8.5 has to offer
It was yeah
i'm planning for long term 😭
process of elimination heavily suggests lv or fov would appear, but hoyo has never followed a pattern so for all you know it could be dsa or mps as well 
it will be an older character for sure though
hope it's not the latter because won't those be available in bp
We'll have to see 
keep in mind 8.5 will be a cn ani, so there is a high chance of getting a new dkey
yippe
and with the last 2 dkeys being stellar keys, its very likely the next one will be one too (make p1 valks p2 compatible)
so whether or not their gear is available matters less
it's so weird thinking about the fact that i wouldn't have to be worrying about this if i were a whale
as a whale, im thinking about things like this all the time
Between HoRb and LV
are p1 stellar key valks just as good as base p2 valks?
technically speaking hoyo can always just give hoo a dkey, hell if they felt like it they would give one to hov
there is no garuntee and if you really want to know, go work at hoyo
Lol
True
why 😭
Wouldn't HoO have to match HoFi's AR?
I don’t think so? Hofi already wants HoO, AR or not
depends, in hofi's case she was a really good ws support because she can do her resonance rot very fast and apply buffs quick + Vita support since roo
in hohe's case.... hohe was terrible until goi 😭, relied too heavily on thelema for damage in wod comps, terrible compared to other supports in loa (only seeing BiS use against the tank with the weak spot)
even now hohe is more of a if you dont have other support kind of character for goi
tyty
so to answer your question with a simple answer
hoyo decides how good or bad the valk will be with her stellar key
ofc they will still be shilled when their stellar key comes out to "incentivize" the unaware into pulling it regardless of how good it is
i'll keep that in mind 😭
Really disappointing they made her shit as support for LoA and WoD
I mean wod comps were already established, and thelema wasnt as used as a dps, which is kind of a funny thing considering half of hohe's buffs are ice damage related or elemental related


so i got this lance and since i have utu and 2 boxes of these weapons should i get abyss flower then the fengheng?
LV DKey should give freeze for how cold she is to Rita
can you send a pic what was inside the boxes
just wanna confirm smth
he has abyss, he needs abyss flower, not craftable
the 2nd n 3rd pics are from the new box
if there is xy sword, veterans always complain it isnt available
its in the new box
regarding the spending event box, you really wanna get brick/xy sword or soe:ae since they are rare ESPECIALLY xy sword
for the first box you can pick abyss flower just to get the sync and later on get toe and fhd from the bp
i have brick for senti
ok so ill get the sword that leaves me with either abyss flower or fengheng flower
this way you get +10 from abyss sync +10 from brick sync + 10 from xy sword/soe:ae
7t is also in bp so you wouldnt use the box for it
that's fine, in that regard you can use the suggestion I gave to maximise your atk
just make sure to craft pinions for brick sync
ok ill craft pinions
but should i get the xy sword or nah?
from what u said it doesnt seem like theres a way to get it otherwise
ok then xy sword, abyss flower, and crafting pinions sound good?
ye, xy sword and soe:ae are both unobtainable through any other means at the moment
from the ones you are missing
SoE:AE has a high chance to be next to be in BP
though xy sword has been unobtainable for a much longer time which makes it even more rarer than soe:ae
maybe not next bp specifically, but really soon considering 7t just got added
Yeah true
what does it mean when you guys say 4/4 for a valk?
i figured lol
these are whati have atm
ye you can rely on the bp to get toe and fhd at a later time to complete your dkey collection
omg wait im a dumbass you have soe:ae 😭
sorry im blind
alright thx just to recap: xy sword and abyss flower and crafting pinions
its ok friend
mhmm
@sterile bluff so thats a no?
oops its a yes, i just like the sword icon
oh ok its fine

i dont like her maid outfit
it doesnt fit her at all
its like if corin from zzz grew up to be a workaholic with a sweet tooth just wants to get things done
@sweet flaxdoes this mean that since i got this blade to lvl 50 it will tune it to lvl 50 or would it be reset?
tuning it makes that specific copy of the weapon a dkey, it will keep its level it just cant be used as a pri-arm material anymore
Hoyo translation moment
I wouldnt really say translation moment, its the one part that is well translated
the main confusion comes from the pri-arm section with dkeys such as hofi or hohe who have pri-arm variants
some players think if they tune it they cant pri-arm it, that's the poorly translated part
not at all especially with your crystal count
U can use the free pulls, but beyond that, do not pull thelema with ur xtals
your pity is a bit too low you can do the discounted once you have 16.8k crystals( assuming you have no weapon pity ) to gurantee her weapon as well
though you may also opt to just save for 8.5 since that'll probably be cn ani and those valks are usually pretty strong
i see thank you
As a new player, is pulling on the current banner woth it? Ive been playing for only 3 days now.
4*
I take it this same advice goes for me right? Altough i really like the char design of the current valk
Nah I'd you're a new player you should easily be able to afford fdd + her weapon
Fdd is the new girl?
Yes
Awesome, so shell be good? As ive been struggling to find a tier list somewhere, is there something like that for this game or in generall a website with builds etc?
Sorry for all the q's
!faq tierlist
Be careful, Captain! 
⚠️ TIER LISTS ARE NOT VIABLE IN HONKAI IMPACT 3RD.*
If you have seen a tier list, DO NOT BLINDLY INVEST INTO ANYTHING IT CLAIMS IS 'GOOD'.
While some tier lists may reflect the current meta, those characters will not help you to build a competitive account. In Honkai Impact 3rd, we optimally invest in the future meta upon its arrival, as the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.
*This FAQ refers to competitive/investment tier lists. Cuteness tier lists and the like are exempt from this, but please do not post tier lists in help channels.
Whoops looks like ive got some more reading on this discord to do before asking questions. Thanks for pointing me in that direction! ❤️
For builds is generally signature gear and that's it, you should never pull a valk without their signature weapon since that's always a rather big DMG loss and you also loose a lot of utility with some balls gameplay being completely bricked without them. You'll probably get all 3 signature stigmatas while pulling for the weapon but if you don't you can just craft them in foundry/get one from the Stigmata box that we get at the beginning of every patch
is therw a guide somewhere as to what's best to biy at the spending event? i currently have 580 of that currency 22k xtals in and im still pulling for fdd weap currently at 10 pity
how does she get 3? im guessing upgrading her to ss + ect?
i did elysian with her and she had 3 
Pins
Stellar outburst
what?
Her stack cap increases to 3 in stellar outburst...
That's because one of her ego signets does that
i have to upgrade her signet?
Those aren't signets
No what I'm talking about are buffs exclusive to ER that's why you had 3 stacks in ER even outside of stellar outburst. In her normal gameplay you can only get that in Stellar outburst as cay said
what are signets hmm
I already explained how her stack cap increases
Signets are in Elysian Realm
What you've shown are stigmata
(stigma in singular form)
if I get the dkey selector which one am I supposed to pick?
I have none of the ones in the selector as of right now
Unless you often are in Nirvana you can keep the box
But if you have to pick it's XY Sword
It's hella rare
SoE:AE and Brick should be added to Reserve BP eventually™, and the rest are alr there
The Synergy box? Picking it makes sense only if you alr have all dkeys
Synergies are temporary (cuz valks are temporary), dkeys are permanent
alr ty 
what teams does new coralie fit into
replaces vita for the most part in loa teams, breach support in goi teams, can be used in vita dps team, can be used as a dps for ignite weathers
thanks 
wait what she is out already?????
Yeah
whattt
hey, after i get a character to lvl80 it still has a xp bar for the whole 80 but doesnt go to 81, is this normal?
yes 80 is the max
so whats the point of this extra xp
nothing
just to make my life harder when putting my chips
i have 1070 bchips what do i buy for maximum efficiency
is buying this for the spending event currency which would get me 2 more cards a smarter idea than buying two 300 ones that would get me 5 cards
yes i assume
for spending event currency specifically? because the 300 bchip ones are better value in terms of cards
otherwise ye, that bundle specifically is best for the event currency
well, i already bought it xd
my thought process was buy it + buy 2 cards from spending event = 7 cards
if i bought two 300 packs, i would have only had 5 cards, and there are no more card offers in the shop
whats the maximum amount of time before i can get the 7000 xtals required for this??
~3 weeks? oh yikes
Is new coralie good for beginner
^if you've just started recently your income is enough to get both her and her weapon during the patch
why hi3 dont have exit to login interfac instead of crash game feature 😭
By the way I used all my crystals (YES LITERALLY ALL) on dragon corallie's banner and still cant get her.
In this case, I shouldn't further invest and skip it right (im 10 pulls until guaranteed Valk and 30 pulls away from guaranteed weapon)
@deft orbit it actually does, but it's pretty obscure: from bridge, click your name, then Account, then User Center, then Switch Account
what signets does coralie use?
took me 5 accounts but im finally done
hmm, either noct or purana seem arguable
i guess but i cant pick between the two
noct is more important to JK, but she doesn't have much use in the current meta, while RC still has use in SS arena and a flexible early cope option
so I guess I'd lean toward purana
yeahh i think ill do that, tyvm for the input 
Its not recommended to pull a valk if you can not guarantee her+ weapon
any1?
I can guarantee to get her if I grind but I’m told that it’s not worth getting after the weather or “rime” has passed
Kevin+ vill v I would say
this week just get all signets for variable arms 🙂
Since her damage are on ult+ weapon
would griseo kinda work
sure
fdd still doesnt have an er guide?
Kalpas1 good too
I believe it's Kalpas1 anyway
0:00 - Lineup
0:22 - Start
#abyss #honkai #elysianrealm #coralie #honkaiimpact3rd
think kalpas1 for outburst, 2 for non-outburst
tyyy
A lot of things can work in ER... the real deal is to know which signets are faster and provide more damage.. and yes idk about kalpas but it should work too
I know one of his Nexus' do provide for fire and ignite
Waaaaaaaagh why does my app crashes everytime i go inside to rooms in Part 2 Open World
Bruh i can't go in, it keeps crashing
chat is Chenxue worth
my pity on the astralop banner is like, 3 until hard pity lol
is the faq outdated? how could f5 only 0.666 per 1 tsp?
not outdated
anyways how does the average team look for FDD coralie
it was Coralie Helia + Vita right
Odd, never seen this issue yet - have you tried redownloading all the assets there?
yeah n you can use hofi or vbm as well
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39658828 scroll down for rotation example
wait do u mean smth else?
Thats outdated w/no coralie though
mb im blind
Pre SS she's just some dmg bump and doesn't change mechanics too much outside of slightly faster first SO 
hie! i'm doing elysian thing and finished the chapter 2 main arc but it says i am missing 10%, when i click to see what i am missing i am directed to this page where theres this "achievements" that says that to unlock you have to have a chance encounter with a character, so do i have to keep spamming deep sequence until they show up? or is it something else that i have to do and the game its just pointing me on the wrong direction
lowkey I feel like this applies to every op ever released I've gotten the same comment 
Need SS for her to change rots (no longer need to wa on your supports for GoI teams)
it is tbh
A lot of the goodies are locked behind SS what can I say
what even is the best S rn, teri?
In terms of changing your runs S teri has the biggest change
Though some fights (mainly below nirv) don't use the 2nd so trigger so 
Hii, I'm trying to do Data Turbulence on part 2 but the game keeps telling me that I need to deploy a valkyrie even if I have a whole team 

you also cant do sea mirage correct?
nope
this game so goated
Im craving those crystal so bad
i suggest reporting it as a bug
i also tried and i alr finished those stuff but i cant enter as well 😔
same 
hi does someone know what errand category (agility, stamina, etc) are these characters: lantern, sparkle n chenxue
ty in advance
Lantern: whatever the person walking sign is
Chenxue: Intelligence




