👶beginner-help

[abstract sequoia]

bro maybe condense that list a bit by at least putting it in a comment block
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like this
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[left vale]

lmao failed

[warped geyser]

wait what howndo u do that

[abstract sequoia]

i escaped the characters on purpose

[left vale]

like this

[warped geyser]

fartnite

[abstract sequoia]

so they know what to type

[warped geyser]

but this just makes it look pizzazzier

[abstract sequoia]

it's still smaller than normal messages

[warped geyser]

let me try again

[abstract sequoia]

because it's used with showing off programming code in mind

so the space between lines is smaller

[left vale]

what is that list anyway

[warped geyser]

that hust made it even bigger

[abstract sequoia]

still a lot, but you get it maybe

[warped geyser]

someone said calling new cora behold is stupid so i made a list of everyone's battlesuit names

the first word in the battlesuit name**

[abstract sequoia]

then idk just make every sub bullet a one liner instead

[left vale]

well this isnt really the place to discuss that 😭

[thick bolt]

yeah that's a convo for #🎮honkai-chat if the result is channel flooding

[warped geyser]

sowwy

[abstract sequoia]

oh yea that doesn't belong here

[warped geyser]

do u guys still want to help me

[abstract sequoia]

wym?

[warped geyser]

i'm level 88 am i still a beginner

[shadow gyro]

its ok

[abstract sequoia]

yea sure, most people are this way actually

the lvling system is just tutorial island atp

it used to be more, but it's been years since

heavily boosted xp gains so people get to exalted fast

[warped geyser]

i mean i was level 82 for the longest time

like 2 years i think

[abstract sequoia]

oh you mean i spend more per week, like i said previously?

thats a bit concerning

[shadow gyro]

its alr kath, anyone is free to ask regardless of level

[abstract sequoia]

yea

[warped geyser]

my goat

[abstract sequoia]

i mean i'll be honest, any lvl past 81 is a slog but not as meaningful anyway

[warped geyser]

wish there were better level bonuses tho

[abstract sequoia]

well the starter manual are your "level bonuses"

[ancient needle]

No, I meant you spend more TSPs per attempt

[abstract sequoia]

otherwise, any xp is converted into coins after you cap out lvl 88

[warped geyser]

i started in 2021 so i don't remember them

[ancient needle]

On F6 it's 100

[warped geyser]

wait i deadass didn't know that

by a 1:1 rate?

[abstract sequoia]

oh

[ancient needle]

No, 1:54

1 EXP to 54 coins

[abstract sequoia]

its a hefty extra source for coins

[ancient needle]

It's decent

[abstract sequoia]

okay so, 15 + 0.6700 * 100

that per tsp attempt

[ancient needle]

Ye

[abstract sequoia]

82, making it at least 246 fuel from just tsp if I can get 3/10 per week

105 from non tsp, so in total 351

so i'll have full willows in 6 weeks..

[thick bolt]

0.67 is for F6

[abstract sequoia]

ye

[thick bolt]

also assumes you salvage all stones to fuel

[abstract sequoia]

wait fuck, i forgot i dont have all the stones yet

[thick bolt]

[abstract sequoia]

oh man, this is gonna take all of 8.4 isnt it

[thick bolt]

if you have 2k tsp lying around you'll be halfway done with fuel in 2 weeks on F7 and completely done with g4 mats

[abstract sequoia]

i can get another tsp attempt off for g4's, not counting armada requests thats 8 + the remaining 7 attempts (14) = 21

[abstract sequoia]

i wish i was swimming in that

i dont even have 100 right now

[thick bolt]

you have your estimate then, goodluck

[abstract sequoia]

wait after this week it's 131. lets assume i request at least 2 g4's daily that'd be 121

[trim matrix]

I am a returning player, 4/4 vita nothing else, should i restart?

[ancient needle]

Vita is nice for the 8.4 valk, you can keep the acc if you didn't dump your crystals elsewhere

[abstract sequoia]

14 per week from armada, 3 tsp are 24 + 7 non-tsp are 14 = 52 per week.
17 remaining after 2 full weeks.

should probably get those from just armada atp

and go all-in on ether fuel

now thats a plan

https://tenor.com/view/bronya-think-loading-gif-honkai-impact-gif-26952642

either way, that means my willows is 8 weeks away

almost right with it taking all of 8.4

[ruby canyon]

when's the update gng 💔🥀

[thick bolt]

#mt-countdown

[ruby canyon]

17 hours ;-;

[restive musk]

is any of these good ??

[upbeat egret]

!faq dkeys

[small willow]

Divine Keys

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Divine Key explanation pin!

Divine keys are special weapons that can give permanent bonuses to your account!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[upbeat egret]

@restive musk you can give it a look to understand

[craggy oyster]

are part 1 valkryies still viable to clear abyss and MA casually? Like getting all the rewards etc.

[autumn oxide]

depends on the boss and all, but generally yes

[odd plume]

can get all reward but for low rank, so real amount is a bit less than just go for new valk

[abstract quest]

other than dkeys, anything else to get in bp reserve works?

[shadow gyro]

others are niche, u can wait to see if u have any dkeys that ur missing that isnt there yet bf deciding

ig honoable mention to EoP but u dont need to get it but out of the other gear def the most flexible

the characters or their og gear is mainly just for personal liking or if u wanna feel satisfied with full gear ig

hohe is def the most used from the valk list the only other would be hoo which is niche, hofi that will be there soon and the rest are nah or alr available in a diff way
will take forever to farm for them tho, not really worth unless u somehow alr have the full gear n team

[slim blaze]

Oh shit abyss

[glossy hemlock]

whats coralies team options?

[ancient needle]

FDD DPS? Roughly speaking PAWS > Vita > HoFi > VBm (there are cases where you use Vita HoFi though)

Other valks won't work

[glossy hemlock]

so if i dont have paws i still have to farm stacks on hofi?

[ancient needle]

If you want Stellar Drain yes

Otherwise it's just WA as usual

[dry python]

oh shit abyss

[ancient needle]

Oh, shit Abyss

[lilac reef]

[slim blaze]

SAFE

[slim blaze]

Oof

[faint wasp]

are there maintenances before a version?

if so how many hours before a version is it?

[quick birch]

#mt-countdown

[amber finch]

im clean

[faint wasp]

oh whoops thought thats when the version releases

how many hours usually are maintenances here?

[amber finch]

well if we do the math

17-11 (gmt+7) equals 6

so 6 hours

[faint wasp]

alrrrr ty!

[amber finch]

check this next time

[sweet flax]

So my score is perfectly fine

[tacit ravine]

hi, do you think AL from these boxes worth more than stamps?

[amber finch]

nah not for me

[abstract sequoia]

does that count?

[amber finch]

hmghe

i’d say yes, need outside confirmation too

[abstract sequoia]

very questionable, most of the time no

how much AL is it?

[tacit ravine]

80

[abstract sequoia]

yea no

[tacit ravine]

got it, thank you

[quick birch]

i mean it's the same value for HoFs and mobius at least 1 frag = 8 AL and 1 stamp = 10 frags

so it basically doesnt matter it's just that SW isnt farmable atm

not that she really has any use case anyway

unless you meant 80 AL combined

[tacit ravine]

worth to open stamp box to push for unlocking mobius for er? or just buy through war treasury and keep the boxes as is

[tacit ravine]

nou, 1 box = 80 al

[quick birch]

stamps can only be used for valks you already own

[tacit ravine]

ohhhh, true, thank you

[quick birch]

i'd just keep the boxes until you need some AL or maybe want HoFs ranks in MA or smth

though imo it doesnt matter that much because 1 stamp = 80 AL in value anyway

at least for mobius and HoFs that is

should be the same for SW once she's in WT

[amber finch]

unless its a more relevant topup box

[tacit ravine]

they are too old now ig, I'll just keep them

[sweet flax]

wont get more relevant than the older ones im afraid

[amber finch]

shuddup

[sweet flax]

love you too ches

[amber finch]

you 3

[sweet flax]

im debating pulling fdd on alt, it has paws and lp but only like 22k crystals

[amber finch]

me with 23k on my main:

[sweet flax]

bro richer than me

[amber finch]

(im trying to get chen if it goes well)

[amber finch]

by like 1%

[sweet flax]

how do I reach your crystal count fast ches im desperate

more like 100%

[amber finch]

wait what you fucking liar

[sweet flax]

that's main

[shadow gyro]

discount pull carry

[amber finch]

2 monthlies, 1 50 usd xtals pack, 2 bchips pack, knight bp

[sweet flax]

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NEED $150 IN CRYSTALS

[amber finch]

1 (one), fifty (50) us dollars crystals pack

how i maxed the topup event in like 2 days

[sweet flax]

oh there's a space

idk I might get the $50 just to get hofi skin

priorities

[remote frost]

Guys can u help, my account is doomed and everyone said I need p2 characters so can someone tell me which ones are the strongest

[sweet flax]

strongest is dependant on how hoyo runs the weathers in abyss
generally speaking that means the newer units

[remote frost]

What r their names plz

[amber finch]

wait what hofi skin, the pyramid one?

[sweet flax]

well next patch fdd is gonna be pretty good for the current relevant rings and for future units of these rings

[amber finch]

literally all p2 valks aside from A helia if we’re being that wide

[remote frost]

Is vita rn good

[sweet flax]

not a good pull

[amber finch]

just stick to the general formula of saving and pulling for the newest valk that is in her debut patch

[remote frost]

Or that new coralie girl

[amber finch]

shes such a bad pull that there’s a faq for her

[upbeat egret]

! Faq vita pull

[remote frost]

Damn why

[sweet flax]

lantern reading this

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message good to have this around

[amber finch]

.

[sweet flax]

just faq vita

[amber finch]

ok in my defense she had a decent amt of t1s

[sweet flax]

no need for pull

[upbeat egret]

!faq vita

[small willow]

Vita

Battlesuits and Tutorials:

• S Rank: Lone Planetfarer

Outfits:

• Eldritch Vantage

Wallpapers:

• Lone Planetfarer

[amber finch]

#profbtw

[upbeat egret]

[remote frost]

What about the white hair pink eyes girl

[sweet flax]

asaphie is a retired old man, show some respect ches

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

their age is catching up with them

[upbeat egret]

Wait there was another another vita faq

[amber finch]

be more specific

[remote frost]

The shadow storm something

[amber finch]

wrong one yea

[upbeat egret]

[amber finch]

???

[remote frost]

Dawg I haven’t played p2

[sweet flax]

faq pullvita

[upbeat egret]

Nice

[amber finch]

you cant just expect me to know whos “white hair pink eyes” is when there are 50 different valks that fit the description

[remote frost]

White hair pink eyes..? Idk her name😞

Shadow storm bringer

[sweet flax]

mad pleasure shadowbringer you mean

[amber finch]

HER EYES ARE PINK?

[sweet flax]

this one?

[remote frost]

Close enuf

Is she good

[sweet flax]

no

[amber finch]

oh holy shit it is pink

[upbeat egret]

Not anymore

[remote frost]

Bro what

[amber finch]

shes like 50 years old

[remote frost]

Why tf was everyone telling me she’s good

Alright guys who is good then

[amber finch]

she was broken on her debut yeah

[shadow gyro]

ig if shes in bps shell be a decent pick but shes hella niche now

[sweet flax]

she's old she barely gets any weathers, and if she does, she is a support for hohe who also doesnt get weathers due to being old

[shadow gyro]

only used with hohe rn

[amber finch]

already answered, fdd is a good pick bc of her ring types + her debut is next patch

[remote frost]

Alright ima google tjat rq

[amber finch]

number 1 n 2 rules of this game:
never EVER pull for a valk/character after her debut patch
always ask before you pull

dont pull then ask “is she good”

[sweet flax]

behold! fate defying dragon - fdd - s rank coralie
releases in 1 day, good pull value

[amber finch]

S rank coralie, the dragon girl, glossary in pins

[amber finch]

imagine not being able to cater to the masses

cant be me ngl

[sweet flax]

you just called her the dragon girl

[amber finch]

its the easiest way for newbies to know who she is smh

[remote frost]

Why are they automatically bad on their rerun or something

Is the new coralie girl better than the helia

[sweet flax]

I thought of the snake with badum first

[amber finch]

nah still good/amazing in some cases, just that newer releases are more worth it to pull for

[amber finch]

different elements different mechanics different niches, cant compare

[remote frost]

Bro what is this system how do u not run out of crystals

[amber finch]

saving and skipping from time to time

[remote frost]

Damn ok so is it just helia and coralie

[shadow gyro]

the longer the valk is from their debut day the lower the value
thele is still good but no more rec

[amber finch]

also 9-10 weeks per version/patch

[sweet flax]

not automatically bad on their rerun
just less pull value on their rerun compared to newer releases (unless you are lantern, sparkle or rs where they were very mediocre on release)

[amber finch]

dont forget our beloved hohe

[abstract sequoia]

by not backpulling old releases, patch does give you enough to get to the average pulls required for valk + weapon

[sweet flax]

I think eu would disagree gotta represent my region

[remote frost]

Should I get coralie first

[amber finch]

maybe dont mention leaks here

also #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[outer spruce]

no it's not

[amber finch]

you can choose to save for new ely if thats a thing and suffer for i’d say 3-4 months with a shit team

[shadow gyro]

cn content =/= leaks
also its just a pic from an event

[amber finch]

or just pull for s cora and have a decent team to carey you

[sweet flax]

anything that was mentioned in cn server (they are ahead of us) will be in the channel #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
anything else is leaks/fake news/etc... which goes against hoyo's ToS and thus is banned from this server as well

[amber finch]

what is announced

[outer spruce]

no it's still not

[remote frost]

Oh mb

[sweet flax]

wasnt announced, nothing about 8.5 is announced WE ARE JUST entering 8.4, cn is 4 weeks into 8.4 themselves 😭

[amber finch]

new ely? they literally just dropped a random pic from a random event

thats not enough to solidify the fact that they’re making her the 8.5 valk

[abstract sequoia]

the only announced tweets are here #hi3-twitter-feed

they're teasing, could be anyone

[sweet flax]

this is like the whole "new seele suit" just because a picture that resembled her was in the event thumbnail

[amber finch]

tbf we get that literally every single time a new patch is coming

and new players/casual players always take the bait

its working thats for sur

[abstract sequoia]

theories and hopes keep the game alive tho

[amber finch]

or just pump them with shit ton of dough

[sweet flax]

cn whales who spend their monthly salaries on the game reading this

[amber finch]

only monthly?

them whales be spending yearly atp

[sweet flax]

nah gotta factor out 1 month's supply of instant noodles and 1mbps internet connection inside their cardboard box

[amber finch]

oh right

[sweet flax]

they've made a great sacrifice

[amber finch]

its all for the flex in a moving pixels game

gotta let them know you’re a player fr

[sweet flax]

and that's a damn good flex

[abstract sequoia]

makes you think what the life of the actual white whales look like

[amber finch]

white whales as in the mamal that lives in the ocean or the walking corpses

[sweet flax]

people flexing cars houses and what not when you can flex vita, they are the real players

[upbeat egret]

Whaling ig is not really different than Whaling irl tbh

[amber finch]

oh i have a question

is whel in honkek still alive

[sweet flax]

wdym

as in do people still spend on the game?

[amber finch]

his last hi3 related vid is like dropping 100k xtals for spork

[amber finch]

imagine not knowing the na legend

[abstract sequoia]

elaborate, too new

[autumn oxide]

ches single handedly carries sea

[amber finch]

think akayuki but na and posts pulling vids where he drops like 5 bands everytime a valk is out

[sweet flax]

I literally have not interacted with any other player in the game until like last year, actually 2 years ago

[upbeat egret]

Asumara too new to know

[amber finch]

he hasnt been that active ever since fov or smt

[upbeat egret]

I am missing styx the true NA goat

[autumn oxide]

triches

[amber finch]

occasionally pops in and drops 100k xtals for the debut valk then leaves for 5 years

[autumn oxide]

EREKT

[amber finch]

shhh they dont know its my alt

[wraith brook]

bad?

[amber finch]

here’s a vid https://youtu.be/mxS5PVoaxsA?si=s3nQkgzFP2-CITki

@abstract sequoia @sweet flax

[abstract sequoia]

can be better by a lot

[upbeat egret]

You can do more

[amber finch]

fuck you shitty wifi

[wraith brook]

[autumn oxide]

yea my sena got 772 get good bro

[wraith brook]

waht?

[amber finch]

he literally pulled for 3 different sets of sswords bc he wanted the 5% increase

[abstract sequoia]

i did 800+ with sparkle as sup and dreamseeker

[upbeat egret]

Where 800 with sena

[wraith brook]

u mean ur sena good?

[autumn oxide]

sena vita fws on na maybe

[autumn oxide]

i meant ur fws bad

[amber finch]

he meant you’re bad

[sweet flax]

have you checked a ref

[wraith brook]

waht
why is so

[sweet flax]

just nowing how to do p1 will get you another 40 points

[wraith brook]

no
just do 1st try

[autumn oxide]

boss made for fws

[amber finch]

and is outscored by the queen of missing attacks

[autumn oxide]

cant miss atks here

[amber finch]

insane

[autumn oxide]

but she leaks so much score

[wraith brook]

i mean why is the sentence structured like this

[autumn oxide]

the boss is made for fws

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

the boss (sa) was made for the battlesuit (fws)

[amber finch]

structured like what

[wraith brook]

[upbeat egret]

Why ref when you can be the ref

[amber finch]

if you meant this then he’s flexing his points and telling you to get better

[sweet flax]

eating, also I prefer using spork than vita

[amber finch]

because you are using the best valk for this abyss and is still losing to him with a 1 yo valk that has no bosses at this point

“yea my sena got 772, get good bro”

[upbeat egret]

Vita overrated anyway

[thick bolt]

You can try following this since there is room for improvement even at low attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMsuLNF5ctE

[amber finch]

star

[thick bolt]

Do tell if you have access to Teri Aop cause that changes phase 1 a bit

[amber finch]

starr

[thick bolt]

yesu?

[sweet flax]

vita is the best no I will not wake up from this delusion

[amber finch]

whale in honkai?

[upbeat egret]

Where your ss vita?

[quick birch]

you have 1 day to wake up

[thick bolt]

never seen many of his vids, just a couple thumbnails and the local legends.
also this topic belongs to #🎮honkai-chat so ping me there if it's continuing

[sweet flax]

fdd < my glorius queen vita

[wraith brook]

oh fishskip

[amber finch]

oh my god even star knows

[sweet flax]

skip to the 2nd run, it doesnt have fish skip

[thick bolt]

2nd half of the vid is no fishskip

[amber finch]

fuck you asu and ram

[quick birch]

in WoD and WS but otherwise

ggs

[sweet flax]

ches Ive known you for less than a year and you expect me to know some random na player who is a whale in hi3

[wraith brook]

someone here say i would lern but still not try

[amber finch]

w-we’ve known each other for longer

[sweet flax]

we did?

[upbeat egret]

You don't really need fish skip to get a good score

[amber finch]

https://youtu.be/r2pKP3qZyGc is this guy sea

[sweet flax]

just ignore fish skip, you dont need it to top score in eu

[upbeat egret]

Maybe he stalked you irl

[amber finch]

nah im joking i have no recollections of you up until like 3 months ago

[thick bolt]

No fish skip is enough for promote, at minimum retain in lotus

[sweet flax]

oh good because I genuinely felt bad for a second

[upbeat egret]

???

[wraith brook]

Did we have something else bc YT jsut say
Video is unavailable
The video is unavailable.

[amber finch]

is he

[upbeat egret]

Is he what?

[thick bolt]

gimme a sec

[amber finch]

sea

[upbeat egret]

Ches weird moment

[amber finch]

check your walls tonight

[upbeat egret]

Okay I will wait for you

[ancient needle]

Yes

[amber finch]

thanks for answering after i figured it out (i really appreciate it ty ily )

[sweet flax]

toxic ches

[thick bolt]

start around the halfway point for the 2nd run

[wraith brook]

why Vita swap before on SOngue?

[quick birch]

because her heavenly link is ready

and you want the ARI

[wraith brook]

but dont we get ari from her WA alredy?

[sweet flax]

it refreshes the qte ari gen

[quick birch]

heavenly link is not stellar drain

two separate things

[amber finch]

not the shameless promotion

[wraith brook]

i know but how we gain ari from Vita qte
in other word

[quick birch]

heavenly link is a mechanic exclusive to LoA, when not the leader Heavenly shift valk's qtes deal extra dmg and restore ARI and that has a 16 sec cooldown

[sweet flax]

oh wait im fucking blind

[quick birch]

HAHAHAH

[sweet flax]

SHUT UP

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

[wraith brook]

all fine

[amber finch]

#futureprofbtw

[sweet flax]

when did I ever say id be a prof

[wraith brook]

wait
waht we do- did We press WA?

[amber finch]

you didnt

i did

[sweet flax]

why am I prof in your filthy fanfics of hi3-cord

[wraith brook]

wait, i need chek did i do 2 ult

[amber finch]

yis

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

when this icon is lit up (it lights up when you hit your qte) you hold atk and it re-enables the leader qte and against sd enemies, like this boss, immodestly triggers the sd critical health (makes the health bar a solid pink)

[wraith brook]

I guess im understnad u but
problem is they Just do swap and boss die
but i feell i miss something

[sweet flax]

can you record a run by chance?

also is anyone missing gear in your team

which astral op are you using

[wraith brook]

DS ss just as viedo author

[quick birch]

what they're doing at that point in the ref is songque qte -> CA ( hold attack) -> fws qte -> CA -> songque qte

[wraith brook]

no, if we talk about 4/4
not affix or miss a litte attack

[sweet flax]

hmm

[wraith brook]

i see but, after my FWS do CA and then i swap on Songue, boss not die, i press CA to kill it

[sweet flax]

afaik as long as atk is around 1.4k you should be able to one shot the boss p2 when swapping to fws

[wraith brook]

p2?

[sweet flax]

phase 2

[upbeat egret]

Try to record a run

[wraith brook]

but that 1st?
Or I dont undestadn u though

[sweet flax]

wait why did I write p2

[wraith brook]

guess so, just need check 1 thing

[sweet flax]

holy fuck im actually trolling

[wraith brook]

[sweet flax]

but ye, as mentioned already, just record a run

you are probs making a very minor mistake that you didnt realise

[wraith brook]

i probbaly forgot to ult songue 2 times, but not sure such fast battle

[sweet flax]

2 ults on songque? you just need 1

[wraith brook]

No there is 2 ult
but i cant do that

Ok i goona record it

[jolly pulsar]

how do i do this?

im assuming when i go to a shop domain, but how i tell whats an advanced card?

[ancient needle]

Yellow outline from what I understand

They usually are just upgraded versions of normal cards

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/2W2q4hT3noY?si=iVwrbWri-znFCspU @quick birch @upbeat egret

[shadow gyro]

you can prob end p1 with vita qte since the bar is low
that is if u did mutiple attempts and kept having that extra hp on sa in p1

[wraith brook]

yes

[shadow gyro]

yeah i have the same thing so i used vita qte

[wraith brook]

starfall im in all ears

[thick bolt]

At 0:42 when badum qte's and you use her CA, tap her weapon but quick swap to songque to collect stardust shards for dmg on the qte
This skips the need to wait for the entire songque combo atk sequence for killing phase 1

Other route is to not ult with songque at the start but save the ult for when you qte songque after vita then do what you already did (adding the badum WA as in this case as well). Takes advantage of badum buffed songque ult in the case of lower damage.

[wraith brook]

thanks i try understand what we have here

guess 1st advice work. but i miss

[autumn oxide]

what a nerd

[wraith brook]

waht?

[thick bolt]

love you too

[wraith brook]

guess i did it

[thick bolt]

nice

[wraith brook]

We now dont use FWS QTE- press WA and then basick attack but instead of WA use CA?

[jolly pulsar]

finally did all events for this patch

[wraith brook]

im only start to touch them

[thick bolt]

Not that
but at this exact time (timestamped) https://youtu.be/2W2q4hT3noY?si=MLCU0lWr5kTY5Zr8&t=44 instead of just swapping to songque press kiana weapon and then insta swap to songque

[wraith brook]

m

[thick bolt]

you should hear a crystal collect sound on pressing weapon, it will help your songque qte kill the boss

[wraith brook]

i mean, did we do it all time from now or this only for this boss?

[slim blaze]

I mean

[thick bolt]

in current situation it's just for this boss because you need to collect the crystals, though normal FWS leader rotation does need you to WA + Basic atk seq 4 for full bar

[slim blaze]

Crystal damage > normal rot

[wraith brook]

oh

jsut wonder if we change FWS gameplay

as rote

[quick birch]

not really, normally you'd also do basic atk sequnce -> wa -> cancle wa animation with ult once she hit's the enemy. You do CA -> ult -> basic atk sequence if you want more ults

what you do just depends on the boss, your dmg and your overall situation

if you meant that

[wraith brook]

not sure but thanks

Wait dont 1st work only for AO?
i mean we hit ULT button when
oh we not talk about full bar WA uses

Did it work in HOTR?

There event

[dry python]

Don't see why you would care that event is easy asf

But yeah it works everywhere that's the point of the emblem

[wraith brook]

no for me it most hard event

cant easy achive max point

[quick birch]

you really just need to know the rotation for the team

most valks have a tutorial for that even though that's not the optimal rot most of the time it's fine for this purpose

[dry star]

for PS, is her swap in rot just
swap in -> weapon skill for 4 bamboo stacks -> hold basic -> hold weapon to consume bamboo stacks -> ult -> swap out?

I use this above regardless if shes leader or teammate

[formal wraith]

would it be worth it to do like one ten pull on vita for the off chance i just get her

cause pity carries through banners right

[oak estuary]

No, just save

[dry star]

ive been told no, because not worth if you can't her equipment 4/4 also

besides other reasons

[formal wraith]

oh she doesnt have use without wep?

[thick bolt]

for support you skip the hold basic part and just ult
for dps you can ult before hold basic in first rot so cd comes off faster

[dry star]

[oak estuary]

She just becomes weaker without her wp, weak enough that u would use other options instead

Also without the wp, she cant really dps

[shadow gyro]

would suggest that luck on never valks

more value if u get a new unit with little pull over a backpull

[formal wraith]

yeah true

[thick bolt]

reason for the wa for 4 stacks is that it triggers leader qte, otherwise most of the buffs are on qte and ult is extra damage

[dry star]

[wraith brook]

Just not always undestadn them

Like with theresa QUA

[shadow gyro]

is it the text that you dont understand?

tbh for the rewards you can just run one team on all and gel all the rewards that you want

[thick bolt]

You can legitimately spam your abyss team on all stages and get max rewards

easier than using the trial teams

[wraith brook]

not sure i undestadn u
u mean just do

oh u about u

[shadow gyro]

you can use your usual team on all the stages

[wraith brook]

guess so, since i not understand much Sparkle Theresa and Sena
well i can undestadn, but my perfomance worst

[autumn oxide]

what the frick!

[wraith brook]

can i overburst QUA?

witout QUA any

[quick birch]

you'll just oneshot them anyway in that mode

[shadow gyro]

even i adjusted the team but yeah if you think you cant use them well just use the characters that you know

[outer spruce]

after all the buffs you get in that mode, everything dies in like 5 seconds or way less

[shadow gyro]

mhm

[wraith brook]

mb, but m idk sry

[shadow gyro]

its ok!

[upbeat egret]

RL( ago 4) is really Dead...even no songque team can 800

[quick birch]

wasnt it always like that lol ?

[wraith brook]

they just most Incomprehensible to me performed by Valk
idk never can do good Sena AO and there know ult as buff valk, but only i can good on her, as dd im bad
Sparlke not sure waht i can say about this

[wraith brook]

ago?

Dont PAWS FWS and PS best team?

[upbeat egret]

I mean... I thought the score would be really bad without songque but i am still overkilling

[wraith brook]

[quick birch]

yeah hoyo recommendations are just ass

[upbeat egret]

Yeah RL is ago4

[quick birch]

when dist is that low you just kill everything

just look at 760 with waxing fws

[upbeat egret]

I surestimated ago4

[wraith brook]

then not know what this can mean sry
i mean if it not the direct meaning of the word(?)

[upbeat egret]

Peeps can not even 810+ with max team in my bracket

[shadow gyro]

oh trust me this mode has worse recommendations at least these are useable

[quick birch]

he's jokingly saying that RL is agony 4 ( max agony rank is agony 3) because the dist is so low compared to nirv

[shadow gyro]

#🎮honkai-chat message these are bad team examples

[wraith brook]

i see Ely in and guess just WHY
im not sure if it matter but boss have HITcount and probbaly Songue better do with it, i can mix up it with MA or smth else where we can Use CA songue and then most of hitcount fall

[sweet flax]

roo is the ring of all time

[shadow gyro]

fr

[wraith brook]

roo?

[wraith brook]

I only now see PAWS and hofi with PS XD

[shadow gyro]

rite of oblivion

[wraith brook]

m its rita ring or i miss?

[shadow gyro]

yeah but not just her

[quick birch]

i mean it works ig it's just that ely has shit buffs for LoA

but again hoyo recommendations are just bad

[shadow gyro]

just commenting that the teams in the picture are bad

[wraith brook]

i mean, m as Leader ring.
Not sure how it right work
they have main Tag and add tag(what im about)

[quick birch]

for example their HoHe dps recommendation is HoHe/lantern/vita while HoHe really wants thelema

[wraith brook]

oh

how i can forgot about thelema

another valk i dont undestadn

[shadow gyro]

well in my picture
you dont use vbm as a dps
hofi dps only wants hoo and hotr

and the vita leader + sparkle do not work

just basically dont sweat about the in game team rec

[wraith brook]

oh

[jolly pulsar]

just letting you know, the PvZ clone event took like a day and a half for me
so if you do it nonstop, probably five hours

[wraith brook]

i more interest in undestand tags
not sure gow put it

[wraith brook]

hell

[shadow gyro]

want a video or a text guide?

[wraith brook]

guess better text since i can translete it
Viedo m , i cant hear All and hard to translate sound for me

what

[quick birch]

i suppose you've been linked the team building guide before ?

or are we talking about other tags

[wraith brook]

sry not sure

Wait what the OTHER tag u talk about?

[shadow gyro]

for this topic this is what u need

[wraith brook]

Ok thanks
But we dont have this page in pins?

[quick birch]

i'm just asking if you wanted to understand support tags better or if you were talking about something else

i dont really know anything else that we would call tag that's really relevant so that's why im asking

sometimes people come up with their own terms so i'm just making sure

[wraith brook]

guess about tags that belong to Leaders and supports

[quick birch]

yeah then refer to the astral ring team building guide at the bottom of the faq

if you have any questions after that feel free to ask and we can elaborate

[wraith brook]

U mean this or what u send?

[quick birch]

what i send

[ancient canopy]

hey!!! update day i'm excited!!!!! as its my first i have a bit of questions, how much time does it usually takes? does it ends still on this server day or will i only able to enter on the next one?

[quick birch]

#mt-countdown

the update will take exactly that long as stated in there

i'm not too familiar with NA server times so you may be able to still play on the current server day once the update goes live

for EU the new server day already starts before the mt begins for example

[dry star]

NA server has 3-6 hours to play yeah

or more accurately, the maint happens 3-6 hours before server reset

[quick birch]

i think NA enters a new server day when the mt ends then

[vivid horizon]

yeah, NA maint crosses server reset, starts a few hours before, ends an hour or two after

[dry star]

yup

NA shouldnt have any timing issues essentially, they would have already had most of the day playable

[shadow gyro]

btw any advise on how to use HoFs in deep seq need to do for the stamps and er levels but shes taking 5 years off my life

[quick birch]

just lite void

basically anything works pick a few ego signets a bit kalpas and you should be good

[wraith brook]

If, i have such bronya its would be better pick Trial?
Idk wher my turgenev gone

[quick birch]

are they fully geared ?

oh

[shadow gyro]

i dont need to finish all the floors?

[quick birch]

yeah no

[quick birch]

OHH the stamps i just read levels

sry i flew over your message

[shadow gyro]

its ok

😭

[wraith brook]

?

[quick birch]

yeah use your kia and mei but trial bronya

though iir LoA scores better than trio on that stage

qte buffs are just a bit too good for LoA

[wraith brook]

LoA?

these 2?

[vivid horizon]

until the update, on any valk choose 5 load Variable Arms buff, gather lots of signets, stand around and win

[quick birch]

law of ascension the ring type

[wraith brook]

i mean what team

[quick birch]

fws/paws/ps should score pretty decent there

[shadow gyro]

oh that would be convenient

[wraith brook]

FWS as leader and damage dealer?

[quick birch]

yeah

[wraith brook]

oh

[quick birch]

usually when someone gives you a team recommendation whoever is mentioned first is the dmg dealer

since the leader is the dps in p2 teams

[wraith brook]

Wait, but dont vita would be better then PS ?

[quick birch]

just try both it won't matter for full rewards

idr what excactly i used there

actually check the leaderboard maybe i'm there

[wraith brook]

m
just teammate told about Vita m fortgot that buff what she give us and it buff FWS

[quick birch]

yeah vita provides breach buffs which gives fws additional buffs then

[wraith brook]

who a u?)

[quick birch]

just Dummemango

[quick birch]

scroll a bit down should be around t10-t15

[wraith brook]

t15

[quick birch]

yeah vita is prob better than

[wraith brook]

U mean, what Leader in p1 can not be A dmg but supp like m
PROMETUES?

[quick birch]

yeah p1 teams are different, since valks didnt really have clauses like " if she is the leader" or " if she's not the leader" and astral rings haven't been introduced yet you choose based on leader skills

some leader skills of support chars gave more/better buffs than the leader skill of the dps for example

[pallid vortex]

Hi guys i know you told me multiple times to just focus on building the astral ring characters but can i like get a decent team outside that i need some other team to clear MA since its Exalted right now

[wraith brook]

wait dont u mean its tkae 5 hour only for gameplay?

[jolly pulsar]

sorry, I think I grossly overexxagerated
Each stage takes about 5-7 minutes to complete. There's roughly 25 main stages, so 25 * 5 is 125 minutes, or about 2 hours. Then add the 12 side stages, each about 6 minutes, so that's another hour roughy.

[wraith brook]

wait

how much PLOT we have there then?
or story text i guess

[jolly pulsar]

oh
oh yeah
story text for the event? I completely skipped all of that

Assume another hour, maybe 30 minutes if fast reading

[wraith brook]

Oh so, 3+1 its will be 8 hour for me, im dead
thanks anyway

[jolly pulsar]

yeah if you're new, I'd say hot on the trail and story and the spaceship shooting events give you the most rewards for the least amount of time I'd say

well story update you could probably dso later

[wraith brook]

m i hear waht main story dont have limited rewards
so i can not worry about that, any way im stack on EX chapter
So i need do spaceship minigame, life simulator and PvZ event
And finilly end HotR

Almost done it
last stage
*unexpeted but it much easy then i think

[wraith brook]

Wait, u dont mean u spend about hour to skip Plot?

oh sry i see now

[pallid vortex]

Hi guys i know you told me multiple times to just focus on building the astral ring characters but can i like get a decent team outside that i need some other team to clear MA since its Exalted right now

[shell basin]

Hmm

Vita should be able to clear one of them easily

[quick birch]

you can probably do something like
vita/vbm/vbs for the first team
and
HoV/ta/SI

[pallid vortex]

Yep already cleared one but the other two

[shell basin]

You only really need to do the two SSS ones, they give crystals and the SS one doesnt

[pallid vortex]

Ok so i need two SSS?

[quick birch]

could also snatch Vbm from vita team if she can solo the first boss solo with Vbs and play Vbm/ta/rc for vbm dps

[quick birch]

there are only two SSS bosses and those give 20 crystals per week

[pallid vortex]

Ok who is Ta and who is Rc

[quick birch]

for full rewards you also need to clear some stages of the SS boss but those are paper

[shell basin]

the team with HoV will probably want buffed mode

but the good news is buffed mode doesnt stop you from getting crystals

[quick birch]

all of those want buff mode

[shell basin]

Surely Vita can do without

[pallid vortex]

What is buff mood?

[quick birch]

yeah i was more referring to their seconds teams

[shell basin]

at SSS level, the bosses have a buffed mode that increases your damage but reduces the score you get

oh yeah if they're trying VBM+VBS they'll need buffed mode there too

put buffed mode on whichever SSS boss doesnt have vita

[pallid vortex]

Ok

Sorry i just searched Rc & Ta and bothnof them are Rank A and lvl 1 so is there anyone else i can use instead?

[pallid vortex]

Btw ho to unlock a locked charcter?

[sweet flax]

generally speaking or for elysian realm?

generally speaking to unlock a new valk, either pull them from banner, buy them directly from war treasury/asterite shop or accquire enough of their character shards

for er, you get a key every week to unlock a new valk for er

[quick birch]

i suppose this is realted to MA since that's what we talked about ? if that's the case you don't

[pallid vortex]

Yes

[sweet flax]

oh ma lock? then ye, they stay locked

the big warning before you enter a boss explained it

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok well i used the Vbt on Vita team so i guess she is locked for this week

Any other suggestions besides RC&Ta since well they are unusable right now for me

[sweet flax]

vbt? you mean vbm or vbs

[pallid vortex]

The one with a hammer

[sweet flax]

vbm

[pallid vortex]

Well regardless both of them are locked on Vita team

[sweet flax]

wdym by rc and ta are unusable btw

because hov rc ta is a decent option

[pallid vortex]

They are lvl 1 and rank A

[sweet flax]

rank doesnt make a difference

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok then hwo should i build them

[sweet flax]

unlock the skills that provides buffs for the team and level them however needed to unlock these skills
im assuming you dont have rc weapon or nebs gloves since you are a returnee?

[pallid vortex]

Yes

[sweet flax]

then the weapon doesnt matter, you can give ta the dkey gloves just since it has higher base attack for her personal dmg

stigmata wise rc can hold theresa glut t fhm mb
ta can hold anything

if you dont have fhm available just have her hold scott or robert peary

hov can hold her own weapons if you have it otherwise any pistol and marco polo tm atila b

[pallid vortex]

I have Hov weapon but not her stigma

[sweet flax]

that's fine, use her pistols and marco polo tm atila b

btw keep in mind rc gives buffs by using hold atk when the purple bar is full, or by ult (can change the color with weapon skill)
ta provides buffs while her shield is up (by using ult or hold attack while the red bar is full, not sure if qte refreshes it)

[pallid vortex]

Is Marco Polo craft able?

[sweet flax]

it is

I think it should be cheap

[pallid vortex]

Ok i have one Siren which is M should i use it or stick to what you told me?

[sweet flax]

sirin is not hov's piece, sirin: ascendant is

[pallid vortex]

Yes the ascendant one

[sweet flax]

oh

id stick to marco polo tbh, that way you get more buffs via 2pc set

[pallid vortex]

Ok then thx btw should i lvl Hov to 80?

[sweet flax]

do you have the exp for it, unless you dont plan to pull relatively soon

[pallid vortex]

Hmm i won't be pulling till the dragon Coralie

[sweet flax]

she comes out tomorrow

just level hov to 60ish

unless you have a lot of exp available

[pallid vortex]

Oh she is already lvl 70

[sweet flax]

good

[pallid vortex]

Btw the MA is exalted

That isn't a problem right?

[sweet flax]

I dont think you have enough valks right now for SS

but that's fine
if you care about crystal rewards mainly you dont need to do ss

or only do 3/5 ss, idr which

[pallid vortex]

Oh i thought i need two SSS

[sweet flax]

ye, im assuming you used vita for one of the SSS bosses, you can use hov on the other, or wait for fdd to come out, use fdd rc + wtvr for the second then use hov si on the ss boss

[shell basin]

Yeah you need both SSS

[pallid vortex]

Ok then i will wait for now and as for Rc i will try to build her is there a way to get her weapon?

[sweet flax]

only beginners can get it right now, or it might be in bp but the dkeys in bp are more important to own

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok

Ok one last question regarding abyss how to get the trophies up iam at the 5th place and mine are only 100 is that normal?

[shell basin]

If you place high in abyss you get trophies which can help you move up to the next level

Moving up to higher levels means more crystals

With your account you can probably push into Agony 3

If you want to get more trophies in a week, improve your score on the stages until you’re higher than other people in your bracket

[pallid vortex]

Ok so right now iam at 5th place so i will get only 100 trophies but if i want to get 200 i have to be in the top 3?

[shell basin]

Yeah

[sweet flax]

q-manifold: score within 2 mins
superstring dimension: score faster than your leaderboard

the faster score gets the more points, aka higher on the leaderboard

[pallid vortex]

Ok understood well i cant get higher than i got for now

[shell basin]

What abyss tier are you in right now

[sweet flax]

that's fine, getting trophies is still good compared to not getting any or losing them

[pallid vortex]

Agoni 1

[shell basin]

You can almost certainly get +200 if you post your run in gameplay help and get assistance with your rotation but you don’t have to if that sounds like work

[dry python]

post it here why move channel

[shell basin]

Well I’m used to it getting better results there but actually yeah people are here now

So here is fine too

[pallid vortex]

Ok

I got 3559 point

[shell basin]

Yep that’s the right team. It can definitely get more than 559 points in A1 but I don’t know what the run looks like, I’d have to see a video recording and I don’t have vita to make you a ref

[pallid vortex]

To be in top 3 i need about 150 extra points

[shell basin]

709 is probably doable in A1 disturbance

[pallid vortex]

Disturbance is 403

Well i don't do any rotation just Vita

[shell basin]

Oh

[shadow gyro]

u do need the buffs from cora n helia

[shell basin]

Then you can easily improve you score by getting vital buff up

[shadow gyro]

bf vita

[pallid vortex]

Do you wanna know my Coralie build?

[shadow gyro]

sure

[shell basin]

If helia is level 1 it possible it isn’t worth because she might die but Cora for sure

And yea sure

[shadow gyro]

thats good

[pallid vortex]

Her weapon is max and her skill are too

[shadow gyro]

👍

[shell basin]

Yeah you’ll just want to occasionally briefly cycle coralie to get her buffs up and then back to vita to do damage and that should be +100 or more points easily

[pallid vortex]

Ok what should i do during Coralie exactly

[shell basin]

Go her at the start, click ult, switch to vita

When her orange circle is almost done, go back, jump, attack, weapon active so you hammer the ground

And then back out again

[pallid vortex]

Orange circle like the passive of Coralie or are you talking about the ultimate bar?

[shell basin]

The passive buff she gives

If you are about to stellar outburst you an skip going coralie

Because that also activates her buffs

[pallid vortex]

Ok so just to be sure i start with coralie then after i alt and all i go vita and then repeat and as for Astral i go for Coralie do her things and switch to Vita?

[shell basin]

You’ll want vita on the field as much as possible while keepingcorralie’s buff up constantly.

Coralie’e jump attack weapon active will also charge your astral ring a bit

[pallid vortex]

How to check for Coralie buff so i could know when to switch back to her?

[shell basin]

There should be visual affect near the bottom of the screen of an orange circle

With a number on it t

As long as that circle exists and the number is 3 her buff is still up at full

[pallid vortex]

Ok last question should i fully lvl up Vita weapon to Max?

Its 55 now and need an upgrade

[shell basin]

It will help your damage but if you’re rolling for 8.4 tomorrow you might want to save the materials for that

Try without and then if you’re close you can upgrade it

Whereas if you’re already there there isn’t any need

[pallid vortex]

Ok then thx

Well i tried three runs and somehow i got lower Score

[shell basin]

Can you record your run?

That doesn’t sound right but I don’t know what you were doing so I can’t give advice about it

[pallid vortex]

Ok the problem is which is kinda of emberssing i don't know how to record on Pc so can you like tell me how 😅

[shell basin]

You can download obs studio, it’s free,

And then have both it and the game open

[pallid vortex]

Ok i will do that

[shell basin]

You can then click start recording and then start your run

is what it will look like, but with your screen instead of mine

[pallid vortex]

Ok once am done iam going to send the video

Oh wow that nostalgic the professor used to have that while video calling us

[vagrant iris]

What stigmas are good for lightning valks

[sweet flax]

their signature stigmata

which valk specifically

[pallid vortex]

Hi it says i need a discord nitro to send the vidio

[sweet flax]

upload it to youtube, you can put it as unlisted if you dont want it to appear on your profile, they will need you to send send a link to see it

[pallid vortex]

oh ok

[sweet flax]

to add to this, you can set a keybind so while you are ingame you just need to press a button to start recording and end

instead of alt tabbing

[pallid vortex]

oh cool i think i once saw somthing simliar in the nividia app i pressed somthing and a game bar appeared with such functions

[pallid vortex]

https://youtu.be/dpZwU4wiuX4

[wraith brook]

how much life simulator take?

[shell basin]

several days it's time gated

[shell basin]

okay so the first problem that comes to mind is that I forgot that your Coralie was low ranked so her ult doesn't actually work like that. You'd have to wa wa jump attack wa, which is slow enough it's probably worth just staying in as vita and doing a fast stellar outburst to get the buffs up. My bad, too used to ranked coralie

your vita sequence is probably suboptimal in some ways but I don't know enough about how she works to diagnose it and it might be fine, I don't have her myself, someone else will have to weigh in

[wraith brook]

so icant make it in hour?

[pallid vortex]

Ok i will post it in the gameplay guide channel then

[shell basin]

the biggest problem with this run is the amount of time you spend in as coralie not doing things

You want to be QTEing back in to vita as soon as her switch timer is up

but yeah also the ult advice was bad ebcause she needs ranks for that to work so if none of her buffs are up you want wa wa jump attack wa (the last three are at once, you jump, attack while jumping, and wa while attacking)

and if it's up but about to run out you can skip the first two WAs

[vagrant iris]

I meant a rank helia

[pallid vortex]

What is Wa btw 😅

[shell basin]

I think you can lead vita, AR quickly to get buffs up, rush down phase 1, do the same transition you're already doing but maybe try and switch to coralie in the middle so vita is off cooldown when phase 2 starts and you can keep her buffs up

and then start coralie buffs, go back to vita and clear

[shell basin]

Weapon active, should be U. Coralie does a spinny with her hammer

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok

So Coralie i will just use the jump weapon attack then qte to Vira

[shell basin]

yeah. And if helia has her ult charged you can go her first, use her ult to get a bit of extra buffs, and then go vita and she shouldn't die if you're quick at it but that might take more than level 1 as well, I don't remember so someone else should sanity check me there

[fallen furnace]

When exactly is the new coralie banner gonna be up?

[pallid vortex]

Btw how much dose Coralie have to be rank wise so her ultimate becomes good?

[shell basin]

it's

so SS

[serene crystal]

After maintenance is over see #mt-countdown for precise time.

@fallen furnace

[fallen furnace]

Aight thnks

[swift drift]

is starter banner worth?

[outer spruce]

no

[swift drift]

ty

where should i spend my crystal?

[lyric anvil]

Save for next patch tomorrow

[sweet flax]

tomorrow there will be a new debut banner that is very valuable for players

considering it will have breach for the current relevant rings (and is roo so works in every ring team as a cope option if needed)

[lyric anvil]

FDD is faster than Bita

[sweet flax]

the important thing is that unlike vita fdd has symbiosis trait

[lyric anvil]

BiS for any GoI

[sweet flax]

the only advantage vita has is being a ws and wod support (worse in wod compared to dsa when unranked)

[swift drift]

So should I spend all my crystals into the banner that will come tomorrow?

[sweet flax]

ws and wod being dead rings at the moment

[lyric anvil]

Yeah she's fighting Sena for that spot in WoD lol

[sweet flax]

ye, you'll pull valk + weapon and save the rest

and if you get enough tokens, you can unlock a dkey from the spending event to get permanent account boosts

[swift drift]

What is the name of the Valkyrie that will come tomorrow?

[sweet flax]

Behold! Fate Defying Dragon

or fdd for short

[swift drift]

so i need to pull first one

[sweet flax]

ye, will she be here for the first 6 weeks

everything else is skippable

[swift drift]

tysm

[sweet flax]

can consider chenxue if you have enough crystals leftover, otherwise just skip it as well

then again, chenxue will be unecessary outside nirvana ranking for abyss

[lyric anvil]

Yeah

[sweet flax]

#mt-countdown you can check when maintenance comes and how long until it leaves here

keep in mind banners update at 12 pm server time

[lyric anvil]

I might try to get Chenxue since I have the pity for her

[edgy hollow]

Hey guys, I was looking to play this game again. last time was about 1 year and half ago, should I start fresh since I didnt have much? how is the game? is it f2p friendly?

[shell basin]

how good is chenxue if I get FDD early anyway, I havent seen her numbers compared to DS

[shell basin]

You should probably restart yeah, beginner rewards are good and returnee rewards suck and all your units will be dated

it's quite F2P friendly, if you're F2P it'll be a patch or three before you're consistantly RL but you can get there and then if you stick with it eventually you can start pushing nirv as F2P

especially for beginners who get tons of free crystals, you should have no problem pulling three releases in a row

if you want to reroll you can do that (do it tomorrow, I mean) but it's not actually needed

just normal f2p is fine to get you competitive in time

[edgy hollow]

how is the reroll? is easy to do it?

(ty for the help btw)

[storm lantern]

it's easy but it's random how long it'll take, there's no pity system or anything

average is 7 or 8 accounts

[edgy hollow]

I see but, is there any guide? or who should I pull?

[storm lantern]

yes there's a pinned guide

and you would be rerolling for the banner that comes out after the update

[shell basin]

tomorrow there will be a new banner for behold fate defying dragon. Theoretically you could get started rerolling today by making accounts, rushing to the point where you get a ten roll, and then saving crystals before making a new account but that sounds cursed and just begging to waste effort

so if you plan to do that I'd just wait for tomorrow

or just decide to skip rerolling

because it isnt needed

The unit in question is "Behold: Fate Defying Dragon"

[upbeat egret]

If you are a competitive player chenchen will be a big upgrade for your team (paws team vita team and fdd team)

You will not have sp problem with her in SO

A big buff upgrade compared to shit seeker( ds)

[shell basin]

That is good but I don't think I will have SP problems anyway once I have a third symbiosis unit? Or does Chenxue let you do a 9 ult chain with paws

[upbeat egret]

8

Ult chain iirc

But really tight

[shell basin]

ah

Well, that's 2/3 of my teams being buffed which is nice

Does she need SS?

[upbeat egret]

Ss give more AR sp iirc

Nirvana players need atleast ss

Ago and rl can still cope with ds tho

If you can afford her it would not be bad tbh

She makes helia playable

[shell basin]

I have 45k crystals and like 13 cards but obv it depends on how quickly I get coralie and if I can resist the urge to make bad decisions and get knight bpass for hofi + key

[upbeat egret]

Are you f2p?

[shell basin]

I grabbed the level rush

otherwise yes so far

got paws+wep really early

[upbeat egret]

You can pray the same luck tomorrow

[shell basin]

see if she had been avail last patch I would have pulled her just for that

[upbeat egret]

You can still pull her tmr tho its never too late

[frozen crypt]

!faq pullop

[small willow]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

From a meta standpoint, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

so you're saying it's a worse decision than Hofi dkey

[sweet flax]

no hofi dkey is a terrible decision
aos are an unecessary decision outside high ranks

[upbeat egret]

Like i said aop are not useful in RL or below

Ds still enough

[sweet flax]

all hofi dkey will do is give you +10 atk
the aop will be a good qol and score booster for your goi teams, but outside nirv, the dist isnt that high that aos are demanding to score well

[shell basin]

uh does big spending events usually scale well? Like in terms of spending rewards, how many crystals will I need to efficiently clear 8.5 spending?

[sweet flax]

you dont spend for spending event, it's just a bonus

do you have 20 dorm banner pulls saved?

[shell basin]

no, 11 rn

[sweet flax]

then if you spend 28k crystals, you will have enough to unlock a dkey

[shell basin]

yeah that one is for the mini spending event right? Or should I also expect a dkey in 8.5 too if there's a big spending event there?

[sweet flax]

hmm... 8.5 might have a new dkey since its cn ani, hard to know until it gets announced in cn

for now your focus should just be fdd + wep, and if you have a lot left over can consider chenxue but as asaphie mentioned, nirv would prefer ss, which is unrealistic for a f2p

so either you give up 8.5 to get an ao that wont benefit you because you clearly arent in nirv or have the teams necessary for nirv

or just the valk + wep

[shell basin]

I am not, I am currently bouncing in and out of RL

[sweet flax]

which further proves the necessity of getting more valks

save the leftover crystals for 8.5

[shell basin]

ty for explanations.

[upbeat egret]

Asu you nirvana this cycle?

[sweet flax]

yes

[upbeat egret]

[sweet flax]

well I mean promoting to nirv this cycle

so I start next patch in nirv

[upbeat egret]

Top 50 or ban

[sweet flax]

bruh

[upbeat egret]

[sweet flax]

does she need paws as support for first weather

[upbeat egret]

Yeah

[sweet flax]

then im not getting t50 xd

[upbeat egret]

But you can cope with vita and hofi

You can probably top 100 atleast

[sweet flax]

maybe

but I have no wafers for affixes

[upbeat egret]

How broke is your account wtf

[sweet flax]

I dont even have the aw to buy them LOL

[lyric anvil]

FDD needs PAWS for Ignite Benares??

[sweet flax]

paws is just that good of a support

[lyric anvil]

Damn

[upbeat egret]

Fdd need paws everyday when fdd is dps

[frozen crypt]

The pulling pin is sorta updated

[sweet flax]

well hopefully I dont demote from nirb day 1

[upbeat egret]

Fdd paws vita or hofi or vbm

[sweet flax]

thank you lyo!

although I honestly thought you died

[frozen crypt]

What

[sweet flax]

I havent seen you in this channel for like a week

[frozen crypt]

Oh yeah I've been busy as fuck with work

[sweet flax]

good luck with that

[frozen crypt]

University clearing week is a lot of effort

When you're a telephony and network engineer anyway, but I digress

I forgot what I normally write for the astralop section, and I forgot everything about chenxue

[sweet flax]

could just mention the usual points regarding astral ops, that outside nirv they are unecessary and too expensive for f2p to consider reliably

[lyric anvil]

She did

[sweet flax]

ah

[upbeat egret]

Asu blind smh

You need sleep

[sweet flax]

its only 12:40

[frozen crypt]

Now I'm gonna go try and finish this shitass ship ranger event

[upbeat egret]

" only " he said

[frozen crypt]

I'll probably end up ditching those affix locks for the challenge stage, which is actually so sad because helia M stig has been scamming me the entire patch

[sweet flax]

if I sleep now my exam will be sooner

[sweet flax]

wait event has the wafers?

🤑

[frozen crypt]

Whatever the affix lock ones are

Theres multiple wafers no?

[sweet flax]

idk\

but those are the ones I was complaining to asaphie that I didnt have

wafer stabilizer or smth like that

these shits

[west holly]

whens the update?

[sweet flax]

#mt-countdown

[shell basin]

later tonight

[sweet flax]

Sea update is in 3 hours

Not same as glb

[west holly]

does it end at 11(maintenance) am or later

[sweet flax]

it will last 6 hours, I have no idea what time it is for you

[trail obsidian]

so im a reuturnee ingame and i don have any part 2 characters other then the starter thrio

so what partt 2 character should i get first im looking to form my first set

i was thinking of gettting the 8.4 banner is that good im trying to survive agony 1 witch i currently cant

[sweet flax]

by starter trio do you mean dsa a rank cora and a rank helia

[trail obsidian]

i have them at ss rank

[sweet flax]

I mean the valk specifically not their rank, but that confirms it ig

[trail obsidian]

yes the valks

[sweet flax]

well anyways, yes fdd is gonna be a good pull if you have the crystals to garuntee her + weapon

speaking of which how many crystals do you have right now

[trail obsidian]

i have a pity pull ready

i have over 4000 crystals saved and 11 pulls till i get a pity s rank

[sweet flax]

ye then definitely go for fdd + her weapon

there are one time crystal sources in pins that you can refer to grind more crystals and get weapon sooner

although generally speaking you will be cutting it close so that can be a problem if you arent prepared for it

^ regarding the weapon assuming you dont get it early