👶beginner-help

[sweet flax]

600 score with ps is not saving me anyways

(yes I know ps isnt melee)

[ancient needle]

Oh wow
I assume GD should be similar

[quick birch]

Wait I never thought about running eepy

Gotta try that tmrw

[ancient needle]

Same

[quick birch]

But p2 feels so tanky in nirv

[ancient needle]

Cuz it is

Apparently Parv will be even more "fun" in that regard

[quick birch]

Another DMG check

Can't do shit if I'm dkey issued

[sweet flax]

btw how does sampo transition work? just hit the hat he's in with a melee atk?

(in abyss)

[ancient needle]

You need to apply Para

[quick birch]

Para the hat he's in

[sweet flax]

oh

ill just take the -100

[quick birch]

Thats why everything else is so ew on this boss

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

You can kill the hats too, but they're pretty tanky

[sweet flax]

that's what I tried the first time

I had to so

[ancient needle]

Well, where is your Sena then

Gotta blow the dust off the old Helia

[sweet flax]

brb manifesting her weapon

and ranks

and affixes

[ancient needle]

[void mural]

So far from the top 2% lol

Oh well

Is it possible to reset this mode like DA in zzz?

Sadge

[opal ingot]

once you accept a score, it uses up one of your attempts for the day. You can however, keep restarting without accepting a score if you know you can get better

[mental python]

can you not fill the bar twice with Helia Coralie Elysia?
After using 3 ultimates i switch to Coralie, consume her stacks, switch back to elysia, do her combo once and Astral ring is already depleted

[hardy ruin]

Need a bit of help regarding reading order
I read ch1-6
Read 2E and from chronicles, I read theresa's section
But starting ch7 I feel like I'm missing one major detail
Sure that Schicksal kidnapped Kiana and Otto is experimenting on her but why is Einstein informed about this? How are AE and Theresa launching a joint op against Schicksal? That too 70% units stationed

[thick bolt]

||Theresa contacted them||
The AE invasion manga tells us that || she's started secret cooperation with the AE scientists since a little before the game ||
Also for lore questions #📚honkai-lore is the place, just beware spoilers from any ongoing convo

[hardy ruin]

Oh alright thanks

[thick bolt]

going further into the chapter may detail the reason (I've forgotten dialogue details by now)

[ancient needle]

Holy shish kebab, Pootz is actually being helpful

[spiral badge]

coralie does not have the symbiosis tag which is what provides the core mechanics (massive sp restoration) to grail ring type (helia)

coralie does have omniscient star which fulfills leader skill skill counts but aside from that and her own effects, that's it.

i'm not too familiar with elysia as a grail support but you prob want to use her ult in some way too (i assume she starts in it during outburst and you can use the finisher?)

[naive pivot]

so what's the least awful non helia team for this abyss

[mental python]

yeah she starts in astral ring ultimate and you can immediately perform a weapon attack into finisher... so the problem is actually Coralie i see... Shouldn't have skipped kiana then

[spiral badge]

kiana isn't the only one with symbiosis either. There's a good amount of them at this point so try reviewing/filtering your roster

[spiral badge]

i heard HoO dps.

Boss wants paralyze and melee if you want to theory for other teams

[wintry wharf]

paralyze works only for transition tho

[spiral badge]

reason enough to still want it?

but yes the boss itself isn't para-able

[naive pivot]

literally the only peralyze i have is old helia 💀

[wintry wharf]

yes if only i could paralyze him midfight no hitlag why doesn't work

[spiral badge]

hm can you get this effect from just depleting the hat's hp rather than paralyzing? https://i.imgur.com/AhDTWVC.png

[naive pivot]

i mean i'm still not sure what teams to run, HoO doesn't exist

[spiral badge]

i mean i'm asking this to try to lead to there right? I don't know either lol

i don't know your roster either

there is a visual of an effect of 1 stack below sampo's hp in p2 and i assume that's the screenshoted effect. So if you ever get around to testing it, maybe you can check there

[naive pivot]

[glossy hemlock]

what are the odds that i get 700+ in rl without helia

[spiral badge]

aside from paralyze, the boss favors melee and is psy typing

so stay away from vita and lantern dps ofc

[naive pivot]

no bio

[spiral badge]

so use the next best thing

something neutral

thelema prob isn't worthwhile either was what i was going to type

[naive pivot]

yeah type down

unironically i think sena or dudu are the only things that aren't either type down or ranged 💀

[spiral badge]

you have your answer/options to try then

[naive pivot]

[spiral badge]

people are not going to know your context ouf the blue. Anything you want to elaborate?

the main thing i would be looking for is HoO main dps with GD for para

but i have no idea how that scores

[naive pivot]

well sena just dies as usual so i guess not that 💀

[spiral badge]

yeah sampo is kinda rude

[naive pivot]

or sambo apparently because i guess they couldn't hire proof readers for this one

[spiral badge]

lmfao

[lyric anvil]

Sambo

How did I not notice that when fighting him 😭

[glossy hemlock]

actually makes sense from the chinese name lmao

[spiral badge]

yeah i was just going to say

[naive pivot]

oh well still got #8 because the entire top 7 is helia

guess i'll just die

[spiral badge]

people already say ke🇧in. Now it's sam🇧o

welcome to shill

[naive pivot]

[lyric anvil]

[shadow gyro]

sambo and shampoo
what other names does this guy have..

[potent hamlet]

wait i actually didn't notice that

[naive pivot]

[shadow gyro]

the fastest way to finish sampo's transition phase is by using hohe's ult yeah? what if i wanna run paws ps fws what should i do during the transition?

[sweet flax]

sambo :o

[lyric anvil]

During the second hat one?
PS ult then FWS ult

[outer spruce]

#🎮honkai-chat message

[lyric anvil]

Pfff

[shadow gyro]

oh wait is both for the second hat?

[lyric anvil]

Yeah

That's how I ran it for my run

[shadow gyro]

alr!
what did you do for the first hat tho

[autumn oxide]

heli ult

[lyric anvil]

^

[autumn oxide]

yea this cycles unplayable im done

[lyric anvil]

Oop

[abstract sequoia]

you mean without BiS or in general?

[autumn oxide]

without fws

[abstract sequoia]

[slim blaze]

Skill issue

[frozen crypt]

I'm about to crash out on you

[slim blaze]

Do it

[frozen crypt]

no

fws havers not worth my time

[rough bramble]

if I have 38k gems, is that enough to safely pull PAWS and still have a stock for 8.4?

[sweet flax]

enough for 8.4, not necessarily, depends how much crystals you can retain from your pulls

[rough bramble]

thanks. So when does 8.4 info come out to decide who to pull?

[sweet flax]

do you already have pity though?

[rough bramble]

60 for PAWS and 27 for weapon

[sweet flax]

we already know the astral ring and ring tags of the 8.4 valk, waiting on more info to see how they fare as a support for the new ring though

[ancient needle]

Have you done the discounted 10x alr

[rough bramble]

i have

[sweet flax]

honestly, you might be able to garuntee

I thought you had 0 pity

[ancient needle]

You should be fine to pull both tbh

Though another issue is that 8.5 is anni, and they usually are both good and expensive

[sweet flax]

at worst you might just wait a week or two during 8.4 do get the valk + weapon

[rough bramble]

alright thanks

[sweet flax]

but ye as teammate said, you'd be missing 8.5 anni

[ancient needle]

8.4 doesn't look skippable

[sweet flax]

because of the ||breach?||

[ancient needle]

How dare you not spoiler tag
Ye

[sweet flax]

my bad

[rough bramble]

welp, guess i'll go for 8.4 then, rip helia

thanks

[sweet flax]

im just worried if I pull 8.4 I need paws to make the most of her either way I cant pull paws

[ancient needle]

I suggest you ask again in like a week, we'll have more info on how good PAWS is as a support for 8.4

[rough bramble]

alright

[potent hamlet]

I mean, they're announced to be roo no?

[sweet flax]

ye but the way I see it, ||its just a breach unit for GoI, waiting to see more info, but since I am not pulling paws I would technically have a ranked vita for every other ring, and im p sure vita can brute force 8.4 cora's weathers outside fire||

[upbeat egret]

Keep in mind that vita will probably die in ||8.5||

[sweet flax]

that is a concern I had too, was thinking 8.3 and 8.4 might not be as incentivizing until we know more about 8.5

[shadow gyro]

||outside of fire there's ignite to consider||

are you skipping next patch then?

[sweet flax]

gotta wait and see more about how mmg does in comparison, if its too big ill just retain rl for a patch at worst

[shadow gyro]

i see

[sweet flax]

idk I still need more info on 8.5

but I dont see the value in 8.4 atm, and I am defo skipping 8.3

(at least for my case)

8.4 is definitely valuable for newer players or players that can afford her

[potent hamlet]

that still needs sparkle right

[sweet flax]

I have sparkle and ss hotr

[potent hamlet]

ah

[shadow gyro]

the unfortunate thing is that the info will only start within 8.4 so you'll only have a narrow timeline to think as you'll probably bruteforce 8.4
but hopefully things go well for you

[quick birch]

|| if they don't change the numbers coralie already gives more breach then 🅱️ ita so maybe bita dead in LoA, but they also made a coralie passive trying to shill vita ||

anyway gotta see how crazy she actually is

[shadow gyro]

yeah there's still time and its still beta

[quick birch]

and v3 still not here so expect some nerfs

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[sweet flax]

ye, that's something to consider

[shadow gyro]

at least you'll know about it this version

[sweet flax]

i'll have to see what banners come in 8.5, cuz there's a really high chance its a stellar dkey + a strong valk

before making a decision

[quick birch]

how to survive in this economy

[sweet flax]

be whale

[shadow gyro]

that's fair but yeah that will be a long wait

[quick birch]

im not you

[sweet flax]

but even I cant whale that much without feeling it

[sweet flax]

:\

[quick birch]

[sweet flax]

im not crazy enough to put $100+ a patch just to stay in meta

atp I might as well just skip this ring

[shadow gyro]

somehow survive 2 patches in a row of skipping at least once like me /hj

[sweet flax]

honestly as long as there's no other paralyze requirements in abyss its so retainable

[quick birch]

i need to survive 5 patches in a row with possible dkey and || aop || though

[shadow gyro]

ngl idk if my suprise s2 is a blessing or a curse, could have gotten another valk with it

[sweet flax]

do you not have 10 pity till aop?

[quick birch]

[sweet flax]

actually I have a question regarding the next aop, are they for GoI only or do they have other ring uses

or no info yet

[shadow gyro]

there's info in the cn channel

[quick birch]

|| RoO + GoI ||

[sweet flax]

||better roo than ss teri?||

[shadow gyro]

that one is for vita no?

[quick birch]

|| from what i've seen it's more initial ARI and the buffs arent limited to a specific element so prob yeah kek ||

[shadow gyro]

||new aop for trio? ||

[quick birch]

technically for RoO but some buffs are lightning dmg buffs so mostly vita yeah

[shadow gyro]

hmm i see

[quick birch]

|| prob, also CD reduction on SO which was a problem for trio from what i've heard||

|| that is SSS though ||

[shadow gyro]

ohh that's cool ||and here i thought hoyo would gatekeep roo from having their own aop||

[shadow gyro]

[quick birch]

|| technically it's still not their AOP ||

|| the'll prob just keep doing RoO as some side skills when ever they release a new AOP ||

[shadow gyro]

roo being a one in a blue moon type ring 😭

[sweet flax]

imagine a vita level valk every other patch

rings where, roo meta

[shadow gyro]

hell nah supporting every ring even if not the best is enough 😭

[quick birch]

RoO lowk unplayble in GoI tbh

ring suffers hard from no SP regen

[upbeat egret]

|| the valk in 8.5 will be probably unplayable without coralie... coralie is already better than vita since she is new and she provide stronger....||

[shadow gyro]

new goi valk should too have very high sp req yeah

[quick birch]

anyway i wish us all good pulls we just have to see how good 8.5 is

[upbeat egret]

8.5 is cope

[shadow gyro]

need to have enough for part 3

[dry python]

what the cope

[halcyon ravine]

Should I pop this to get the ice sushang weapon to give over to the new sushang? Don't got a weapon for her, mainly using her as a helia support but i heard the old sushang weapon wasn't too bad on her

I don't know how much of a boost it is compared to forge weapon

[thick bolt]

Neither of them have any buffs for sus so just gonna be a stat stick and big mat sinks since dmg comparisons assume maxed weapons

In a vacuum the pick is noc cause it can be used in starter teams for JK but otherwise won't do much for PS

[halcyon ravine]

Looks like i'll just save the box and use the divine key fists

[umbral shadow]

Best build for bright knight excelsis is t m Dante b Elysia?

[upbeat egret]

Yes

[robust panther]

Should i buy the level bundle to get hohe?

[thick bolt]

HoHe is useless without her divine key and sees somewhat limited use with.
The main value for level bundle is the crystals so if you're spending in any way it's a good deal to get

[robust panther]

Ahhh oki tyty

[cold niche]

last i played was when finality kiana came out, should i be trying to pull on the current banner?

[sweet flax]

are you asking about the same account? If your goals are to catch up competitively/meta (I assume it is otherwise why are you asking if you should pull) then have you considered restarting? (outside hofi and hotr, all other units you would own are farmable and beginner income is much more better in securing multiple valks early on)

if you just want to play casually you can make your own pulling decisions, just keep in mind p2 units are heavily dependant on their weapons for the majority of their dps and important parts of their kit

[dry python]

something someting restart your acc now

o wait

!faq returnee

[small willow]

Returnee Accounts

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Returnee Accounts pin!

Please send us an imgur album in #👶beginner-help of your significant S-Rank Valkyries and the first page of your Weapons and Stigmata. We will help you decide whether it is worth keeping.

If your account:

• Is below level 80
• Lacks established teams
• Isn't dear to you/doesn't have limited collectables that you care about.

Then:

[cold niche]

ahh I see, I was referring to my original account but maybe I'll consider restarting. That probably make sense. Plus my old account is on a hoyo account while my other mihoyo games are linked to another account so i could restart fresh probably.

[sweet flax]

seems much more convenient

there are a lot of tools and guides in the pins of this channel, and helpers who are able to answer your questions if you have any

[cold niche]

Alright awesome! Ty!!

[sweet flax]

ofc, keep in mind most of the advice you will receive here are meta-oriented, and will prioritise helping you catch up to the meta as soon as possible

[cold niche]

yea im more meta oriented when i play these games so im good with that

[sweet flax]

dont be afraid to ask in that case, enjoy the grind

[tall flax]

how to pass the transition stage for sampo

i see videos on them bypassing it while i have to deplete the hp of 2 hats before entering p2

[quick birch]

You need to paralyze them

With paws leader all ults from teammates and herself apply para do 1 ult on first head and 2 on second hat

[young hawk]

is new helia future proof

[ancient needle]

She doesn't have any future AR tags, but on the other hand we don't necessarily know when a new AR type will come out (probably in like 4 patches)

She'll probably be needed for the 8.4 valk, and the 8.4 valk will likely be needed for 8.5

[cold niche]

should i play mobile or pc?

[sweet flax]

personal preference, pc is preferred though

[autumn oxide]

from a competitive standpoint, mobile if ur phone supports 120fps, pc otherwise

[cold niche]

pc it is

[autumn oxide]

particularly iphones

[cold niche]

my phone dont got the space rn

[ancient needle]

You don't necessarily have to choose btw, you can use both

[ancient needle]

Ah, fair

[cold niche]

so while i free up space il play pc

[autumn oxide]

so why was it a qn in the first placr 💀

[odd halo]

Can somone tell me ehat the meta is rn these r the only stuff i have i havent played for like a year or so

[ancient needle]

So that they know the urgency of having to free up the space

[cold niche]

i was debating clearing up space now or later

[ancient needle]

You should defo make a new acc

[thick bolt]

just restart, nothing of value compared to losing out on beginner bonus

[odd halo]

Alright

[cold niche]

lmao im doign the same

[odd halo]

So whats the meta

[thick bolt]

check pulling pin

[ancient needle]

The newer the better roughly speaking

[odd halo]

Ok thankd

[austere umbra]

whats worth spending crystallum on?

[ancient needle]

Depends on whether you're buying BPs and on your acc

Do you alr have all the available dkeys? Sena? LV? ||FoV||? Do you have proper teams for them?

[austere umbra]

i have all available dkeys and hohe's dkey (as well as her), i dont have sena, lv, or fov

||also, is hofi being added to the reserve works or war treasury?||

[ancient needle]

Too early for WT
To Reserve

[ancient needle]

Are you buying BPs?

If not, you're pretty much forced to wait for more dkeys to be added

[cold niche]

does that mean in the current meta none of the old characters are as powerful as the new ones?

i mean like using hof or something

[ancient needle]

Valks become more and more niche over time

Until they become completely irrelevant

This process lasts for 1.5-2 years usually

[ancient needle]

Though the patch length was increased recently, we don't know how that will affect this

[cold niche]

ohh its been so long since i last played seems like a lot has changed💀

[ancient needle]

Some valks's lifespans are artifically increased via dkeys or new supps

[muted shoal]

looks like you left right before part 2 so yeah, pretty much everything changed

wait no wrong guy the screenshot wasn't yours

you're even older than that

[cold niche]

Lmaooo

[ancient needle]

If you are, it depends on whether you have the proper teams for the valks I've mentioned

Sena can be used either as the DPS (Sena Badum Vita is the BiS comp on her only boss) or as a support (BiS only in WoD (with caveats), cycles for which are pretty rare atp)

LV's main use is being the DPS, the BiS comp is LV SImp CE (HoTr can be used instead of SImp and GD instead of CE)

FoV's only use is being the DPS, the BiS comp is FoV HoTr Sparkle (CN can be used instead of Sparkle)

Essentially everything here is hella niche, you might consider just keeping the balls for now

||You can go for HoFi ranks next patch too if you have the entire trio, but I'd wait until we know what's in 8.5 BP||

[ancient needle]

Or maybe HoHE ranks if you have HoHE DPS

[austere umbra]

theres like 4 paws playstyles for ER on rentry, which one is the best one?

i guess variable arms vs no variablea rms

[cold niche]

this is from my old account

[grizzled spruce]

How worth is helia rerolling for

[thick bolt]

likely whichever build uses variable arms

[thick bolt]

if you have the crystals (and can also get 8.4) I'd suggest a pull, skip otherwise based on current news

[storm lantern]

imo pretty worth considering what we know about 8.4 and 8.5 being anni

[thick bolt]

ye it's a restart 100%
unless you just don't wanna (it is a valid reason) and are aware of the tradeoffs

[grizzled spruce]

cause i realised my current account is a bit bricked rn, i got sparkles without her sig and then recently got a sig for someone but stopped playing to actually pull them 😭

[thick bolt]

well if thats all you have I don't think you can take advantage of helia's teams, so 8.4 might be a better entry point unless you can pull both

[grizzled spruce]

this is my current account

[thick bolt]

you don't even have the crystals to consider pulling
just skip till anni atp

[grizzled spruce]

i was saying to reroll for helia, cause idm starting fresh tbh

i wouldnt be against rerolling

[thick bolt]

well if you don't see yourself dropping the game (or playing on and off) just start fresh for helia

[grizzled spruce]

would she be that g

that much better than sonque

is sonque still good? idk

[thick bolt]

we're going into new ring territory that songque can't support so

recency buff

[storm lantern]

considering you will not get a support or dps for songque yes

[grizzled spruce]

icl the most annoying part about rerolling are the new emails lmao

even if you salt

[storm lantern]

just get it on the first reroll

[grizzled spruce]

say less

[dry python]

Lol

[ancient needle]

Lore nerd reading issue ainnoway

[cold niche]

So just confirming based on this being my old account I should restart?

[thick bolt]

wait what, what did I miss

Oh rerolling xD

[dry python]

reroll

[thick bolt]

demote

yeah that was my mistake

[round spoke]

Excuse me guys, where can I find the mission I need to complete? I just can't figure out where it is in the game

[lyric anvil]

[quick birch]

[cold niche]

what do the new player rewards entail?

[thick bolt]

to name a few:

• crystals from growth regimen and materials from the training manual
• levelup rewards
• refreshing your one time crystal sources allowing consecutive pulling patches
• useful pieces of starter gear for beginner teams before your gacha teams are setup

the main thing is the crystals cause it allows you to pull in close succession for faster team setup, especially since closely released characters have the benefit of working well most of the time

[round spoke]

Help pls

[dry python]

Bro literally the message under your original post lol

It was sent twice too

[lyric anvil]

[round spoke]

My WiFi is slow sorry

[low kestrel]

@ancient needlehelp in abyss, this is my team

[upbeat egret]

RL?

[thick bolt]

Here's your ref
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSkL1Iu0vzM&ab_channel=HiếuLê

[low kestrel]

yes

[upbeat egret]

Ok starfall already sent a ref

[low ridge]

So I got this girl whenever I did my half of ten pull at 90 pity and I don’t know what to do with her I only have vita and HoT

[storm lantern]

you can use vita coralie as her supports, also pull weapon if you weren't planning on it

[low ridge]

Ok😭

[storm lantern]

they're not good supports but they do actually have buffs

[crystal orbit]

are the current banners any good for a brand new player, or should I wait

[storm lantern]

yeah, pull paws and her weapon then save

you can use vbs and coralie as her teammates

[dry star]

Hi is the free Jade Knight from starter manual worth building for a new account?

I currently use/building paws, coralie, RC, hohe(? Elysia), and TA

I don't really know the power level of most valks in relation to each other

Also I know the nebulous... something gloves are common on TA, is it better than the free divine key gloves?

[cold niche]

What’s the beginner screen supposed to look like? I think I made the account and then didn’t log in and all the beginner stuff is gone… is there a way to delete an account and then restart again?

[thick bolt]

she's fine for starter ice teams, not much use beyond that

[dry star]

Oh great thank you I will build her then

[thick bolt]

Green book in the bottom middle of the screen called starter manual

you cans switch servers to start a new account with same id, deleting can be done by requesting CS but it also deletes your entire hoyo account

there's an option to salt emails to create new accounts, details in the rerolling info pin

[dry star]

The beginner stuff expires after... 90 days iirc someone told me here. I had to change my region to get it to be a fresh acc

Iirc the only way to delete a region save file is through emailing Customer Service (if you don't want to use a different email and reroll your account that way)

[thick bolt]

ye just avoid commiting any honkai shards or going broke over it. Just so you don't end out of mats when you pull a gacha valk

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[dry star]

I forgot if it was hoyo who does this, but some customer services will only delete your account after a 24 hour delay (to make sure you're serious about it)

[thick bolt]

beginner teamcomp examples

[dry star]

Thank youuu

[cold niche]

Ah yea when I was trying to log in once I logged in with my email and then it make me link so my other hoyo games are linked on a third party and I had a new account but I quit cuz I need to account retrieval my old one

I was recommended to make a new account cuz every I have it out of date

But looks like I missed out on the benefit of a new account

I’m usually on NA should I make an EU account?

[dry star]

Ah true. 8.3 should last... 90 days right? So I should calculate how many mats I'd need to max the next Valk and any extra is ok to spend

[dry star]

I'm NA too but I made one on EU for the same problem you have now

The only difference is the daily reset time, so normally for me the reset time in NA would be around midnight but on this EU server the reset time is 8pm for me (west coast)

Which actually I like it more at this time

[cold niche]

For reference this is my old account

[cold niche]

Ah I see I’m on east coast

I didn’t play religiously, mostly for story but in the last couple of years I’ve become more meta focused

[dry star]

I see, so reset time would be roughly 5pm. This can be bad good or neutral, it just depends on what time you like to play every day.

Like if you play at night anyway it would be no different to you

Even if you play morning there's pretty much no difference if you only play once a day

[thick bolt]

#status has the daily and weekly reset times listed (for your timezone) if you need more precise numbers

[dry star]

You're going to be finishing your dailies in your daily 5-15 minutes of playing regardless of the daily reset time

[dry star]

Ah thank you, I was off about my NA times, I only knew that it happens after midnight lol

[ancient needle]

8 weeks in total, we alr lived through 1.5 of them

So a lot less than 90

Surprisingly

[dry star]

that's great I'm impatient because I want a teammate for paws... though that does mean I need to grind crystals

[ancient needle]

You can check the mats requirements on the wiki

[dry star]

[ancient needle]

I only remember the most notable ones:
9 Honkai Shards for weaps
400 Toruses and 520 Metals for PRI weaps
21 Prisms in total to max a Prism stig set (1 -> 2 -> 4 per stig)

[dry star]

Unrelated question
In some armadas, when I get to claim the daily commission reward, it lets me pick which items I would prefer

I noticed in my current armada, sometimes I get to pick sometimes nothing is listed (I always do 8 of 8 commissions)

[dry star]

400 toruses

[ancient needle]

Gotta change the Armada, it looks like a deadge one (unless you do your Commissions right after the daily reset ig)

[ancient needle]

Keep in mind that that's to max the weap (lvl 65), and you won't be able to push PRI weaps beyond 50/50 until lvl 81

(they start at 1/50)

[dry star]

Oh okay so even though it's my commissions the reward pool is affected by everyone else?

I do my commissions right after daily reset and I also claim the previous day's commission reward at the same time so it should be a 24 hr period

[ancient needle]

Yes

[dry star]

Oh okay thanks for this, rn I'm just lvl 50

[ancient needle]

Essentially Commissions are a raffle, where the amount of your Contribution increases your chances

[dry star]

Oh okay thay makes more sense. Aight ill look for a different armada...

I'll look in the EU recruit

[ancient needle]

Now hold on there, no Armada in the game will fill the Commission reward pool on time if you do the Commissions right after the reset

[dry star]

Wait so the time I submit the 8 commissions will affect the reward?

So would it be better to ignore my commissions until right before reset then do it

[ancient needle]

No, I meant that you won't be able to select the rewards if you try to do that right when the pool resets

[dry star]

Am I dumb I usually don't select rewards until the next day right before I collect the rewards

After I submit commissions I don't pick rewards I wait until the next day and pick then claim

Regardless I can change up the time I do commissions so it isn't a big deal

I log in to do dorm errands twice a day anyway

[ancient needle]

Select rewards + do Commissions on the same day (the order doesn't matter as long as it's the same day) -> (hopefully) you get what you selected -> repeat

[dry star]

Wth I've been doing it wrong I thought the reward selection was always for the day before

[ancient needle]

[dry star]

Ill stalk my armada list and see how many inactive there are before I try to look for a more active one

At least the ppl in this one will donate stuff to me I always ask for my daily 1x fluid block

[ancient needle]

You shouldn't really be running out of them (and even if you do you can just buy them from the Training Shop)
I personally pick the Dorm tix, you wanna have 20 of them ready for a spending event

[ancient needle]

||(next patch btw)||

[dry star]

Yeah I pick dorm ticket too
I meant the donation thingy where you can ask for a material and a member cam donate to you

[dry star]

Ahh ok thanns

[ancient needle]

Ah, ye, mb, brainfart

Any Tier V Armada with 120+ active players should be enough

[dry star]

I just checked I think this one only has >80 active

Wrong carrot

<80

[ancient needle]

To check whether an Armada is worth staying in (once you're alr in it) it should fit these criteria:

1. Tier V
2. Weekly Contribution is always maxed (the one that gives 25 xtals)
3. Sim Battle rewards are maxed (>= 2.5 mil score)
4. Dorm tix appear in Commissions (they can take some time, better to check in the evening at least (based on server time ofc))

[dry star]

thanks appreciate this

[ancient needle]

Maybe even less tbh, peeps are a lot more likely to do Sim Battle since LITE has been introduced for it a while back

[dry star]

Yeah I'll leave this one anyway
It technically has 90 actives in the past week but 30 of them have less than 50 total contribution

And it's been a week atp so it looks like they logged in like once

[ancient needle]

As long as this is fulfilled the number of players doesn't matter

I gave it just for you to be able to select one when picking in-game

[dry star]

I see
Eh I already left it so I'm on my 12 hr cd

[ancient needle]

[slim blaze]

Ic

[obtuse pier]

how do i make HoRebirth to start at dps form? I've seen YT tutorials and they seem to have HoR already in dps form after switching from HoS

[ancient needle]

Toggle one of her skills in the Passive branch

Toggle to "off"

[obtuse pier]

oh icic thx a lot

[oak tiger]

where should i be summoning?

[ancient needle]

If you're very new it's recommended to get Planar Armament + her weapon

[oak tiger]

where do i get her weapon? i can't find it anywhere😭

[ancient needle]

Equipment Supply A

[oak tiger]

thank you sm!<3

[ancient canopy]

hey! i just started and theres a friend invite code thing i can do, wanna know if anyone can give me their code for it

[signal dagger]

I just started yesterday and how am I supposed to hit lvl 20 to start the new quest😔 i feel like im blind

[thick bolt]

I don't see starter manual, I suggest creating a new account to get all the beginner bonuses (massive benefits)
on the other hand doing some other stuff in the attack tab should get you the xp probably, maybe repeating a stage(?)

[thick bolt]

@autumn oxide

[signal dagger]

Weird did it not give me the manual cuz my hyv acc was made during GI release 💔

[thick bolt]

if you at any point got to the login screen in the past the countdown starts

[signal dagger]

Ig new account time

[thick bolt]

can alternatively change region if you're fine with it

all that changes is finalising times/daily reset time as per #status

[signal dagger]

Oki ill see what I can do ty for the help

[odd halo]

Is old valkyries like finality kiana or elysia not good anymore?

[upbeat egret]

They are good if you have their divine key+ new stigmata

[odd halo]

Whatd a divjne key

[keen depot]

Is the new Helia good without her weapon?

[lyric anvil]

Valks need their signature weapon or else she'd be missing quite a bit of damage and utility

[keen depot]

Did the new Li sushang have a banner at all?

[lyric anvil]

Her first rerun is on July 11th
Though backpulling isn't recommended

[sly bane]

is my old account salvageable or should i just make a new one? im a returning player

[keen depot]

Why did they have the update screen show the new Li sushang if she wasn’t on the banner

[lyric anvil]

Update screen?

[keen depot]

Yeah

The photo they show while the game updates to the newest version

[lyric anvil]

Ah-

[lyric anvil]

You might have joined after debut week during 8.2 like I did with sparkle in 7.9

[amber finch]

unless you have like 50k crystals then i would recommend restarting

[sly bane]

jesus why

[amber finch]

straight up, you have nothing

[lyric anvil]

Hi Ches

[amber finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[lyric anvil]

[keen depot]

I joined around when A stars still got banners

[lyric anvil]

Returnee or?

[keen depot]

Yeah

I just started getting back into it

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[keen depot]

How do I get a lot of gold

[lyric anvil]

Well still might have missed her debut banner likely depending on the day you returned

[amber finch]

hoarding them over time, salvaging blue rarity weapons, etc etc

[keen depot]

Where do I salvage?

[amber finch]

this from dorm expedition gives quite abit of gold too

[keen depot]

Are supports bad without their weapons too?

[shadow gyro]

hey i hope you don't mind if i ask
did you decide what you wanna do with the game right now?
since a lot of returnees that wanna be competitive will take a good chunk of time to get back on track do new accounts can help you and you'll progress fast as long as you're willing to do story and stuff again
ignore this if you don't wanna abandon your old progress tho

[shadow gyro]

generally speaking any character you wanna get and use for endgame need their signature gear

[keen depot]

I’ll probably make an alt

[amber finch]

tldr: if you pull for a valk then get her weap, no inbetweens

[keen depot]

Is weapons guaranteed?

[amber finch]

guaranteed in 60 pulls

[shadow gyro]

there's no 50/50

[lyric anvil]

^

[amber finch]

if you get weap then immediately stop pulling, dont go for stigmatas

all (current) p2 valks’ stigmata are craftable

[keen depot]

Ok thanks!

[shadow gyro]

there's the stigmata box too if you need it

[lyric anvil]

Likely might get also all 3 when pulling weapon since Stigs have a higher chance to appear when pulling now

[keen depot]

This is what I have I’m close to getting Helia weapon

[amber finch]

atleast you have uh valks

[keen depot]

What does that mean ;-;

Are you calling me poor

[amber finch]

you have no supports for sparkle and no supports for helia and presumably no sparkle weap

[keen depot]

Sparkles a dps?

[amber finch]

and support

all S rank p2 valks are

only the A rank coralie and helia are pure supports

[shadow gyro]

show your weapon and stigmata inventory too

[amber finch]

all current*

[lyric anvil]

Tbh you could try DPS with them

[amber finch]

just incase

[amber finch]

you could, doesnt mean you should

[lyric anvil]

True

[keen depot]

How am I supposed to get 3 characters and all 3 weapons if they come at the same time

[amber finch]

you dont

[shadow gyro]

ill come back to this in few years when we get that exception/j

[amber finch]

you do a cool thing called saving and planning your pulls

[keen depot]

Idk how to plan stuff

[amber finch]

and also dont pull for a valk past her debut patch

[lyric anvil]

Pull debut Valk and her weapon then save

[amber finch]

@keen depot bascially dont pull for sushang if that’s what you’re trying to do

[keen depot]

Is there good ways to get Gems?

[amber finch]

also where are your crystals

[keen depot]

I wanna start saving

After I get Helia weapon

[amber finch]

you only have 2 p2 valks so you should have like atleast 40k

[amber finch]

q manifold (under level 80)/ superstring (level 81+)
events
elysian realm

memorial arena gives like 120 crystals or smt, it’s still something

story is a really good one time crystals source too

[keen depot]

58 gems… I just got back 😦

[shadow gyro]

you pull when you have enough crystals to hard pity the valk n weapon or if you at least have 30k crystals (if the until guarantee is low that will help but don't recklessly pull)
if you can't afford then skip for the patch
only pull the debut valk n gear
you can also check the pulling pin since some valkd may not be as impactful and since some events like anni and summer patches show up and they take more prio because of other freebies

[amber finch]

also ask before you pull^

[shadow gyro]

yea

[amber finch]

very important

[keen depot]

So if I plan on going for a good character I really like I should have at least 90k?

[amber finch]

no what

[shadow gyro]

no that's too much

[amber finch]

30k-40k is enough

40k is already hard pity

[amber finch]

for both valk and weapon

[lyric anvil]

30K is 75% I believe

[keen depot]

What about if I want their bis team and all weapons

[shadow gyro]

and that's for the patch btw, don't be distracted by other supplies in the patch

[amber finch]

dont pull for a valk past her debut patch, like i had said

[shadow gyro]

hoyo will bait you with reruns and outfit supplies

[amber finch]

pulling on reruns = no no

[keen depot]

So ONLY pull when they first come out

[shadow gyro]

yes

[keen depot]

As soon as they come back they aren’t worth it?

[lyric anvil]

You'll get team members for her when new releases well- release pretty much

[amber finch]

depends on the valk that’s released too

number 1 rule: ask before you pull

[keen depot]

Sigh

[amber finch]

also pins has a pulling guide too

[shadow gyro]

basically the longer you take to pull the valk from her debut day the less bosses she'll deal with

that's why u wanna have enough to get a valk from her release day
anything else will depend on your situation

[keen depot]

Is Helia, HoR, and Fallen rosemary good for now while I wait for new ppl?

[sly bane]

is sparkle still obtainable? im a hsr player lol

[amber finch]

if you meant in a team then no

use S helia A helia and A coralie

[keen depot]

Ok

[amber finch]

she’ll get reruns yes

[amber finch]

on july 25th too

#💁gameplay-help pins for schedule btw

[shadow gyro]

if you wanna make a team for paws (new helia) then helia, coralie, vbs (a rank helia) since the last 2 are available and while not the best will do for now but that's if you don't have: hohe with dkey, ps (new sushang), fws (new kiana) or rs (small dudu)

[keen depot]

Who is Small Dudu

[amber finch]

glossary in pins for rs, if you know how to use #wiki-consult then it’d be faster

check #wiki-consult i did it for you

[keen depot]

I’ll just use the F2P tam

Sigh

[amber finch]

because you shouldnt pull for her supports

[keen depot]

I was planning on getting small Dudu but didn’t have pulls because I didn’t know about this saving thing

[shadow gyro]

if you keep saving there will eventually be new supports for paws and new valks for paws to support so its ok

[amber finch]

unless you really like a valk and dont mind the setback of pulling for a valk after her debut then its advised not to do that

[keen depot]

Okay to both comments

[shadow gyro]

[keen depot]

How many pulls do yew get if you finish the whole 1st story

[shadow gyro]

a lot
can look at #👶beginner-help message

[lyric anvil]

Main source of income for a new account

[sly bane]

is the girl on banner right now good for new accs?

[lyric anvil]

PAWS is

[oak tiger]

what should i be buying from the wish shop?

[shadow gyro]

do story and the tasks in the beginners manual
also take your time and look at the pins in this channel, they're very useful
for beginner teams: #👶beginner-help message
for paws pair her with a rank coralie and a rank helia
for story you can run anything but don't spend a lot because you'll leave these valks later and you'll get trials soon

[shadow gyro]

supply shop? how much currency do you have? you don't need to rush buying anything from there

yes

also np

[oak tiger]

(there is other stuff at the bottom as well)

[lyric anvil]

The event shop

[quick birch]

U should able to buy the whole shop if you do the whole event.

[oak tiger]

tysm! <33

[shadow gyro]

you have a lot of time to do the event just make sure to finish it before it ends
the only main priority is the crystals, others are useful but you don't need to rush getting them as you still have time
there's the outfit if you want, nice for collection

[potent hamlet]

is paws helia the best ER character ever holy shit I don't think I've ever done ER so effortlessly before

[haughty elbow]

regular helia better

[fallen shale]

I got kicked down to agony I :<

without paws weapon is this to be expected

also with PS leader is it worth doing the Helia stellar outburst ult when I use my astral ring

[mortal prawn]

Is this worth pulling?

[abstract sequoia]

yes its worth it to SO

as for agony 1 demote, not necessarily. i think you could have done better

assuming you have a full team

[fallen shale]

I was on the top node running PS > Cora > PAWS

[abstract sequoia]

and why no paws leader?

[fallen shale]

I tried it and it went way way worse

[abstract sequoia]

hm okay

[storm lantern]

no weapon

[abstract sequoia]

i know but weather

nvm it was melee not lightning

[fallen shale]

yeah lol

[abstract sequoia]

although sushang wont get a buff from it. bleed doesnt count as either melee or ranged

[fallen shale]

oh fr
rip

[abstract sequoia]

yes

[storm lantern]

its kind of hard to say which is better since damage comparisons are not really done with low level cope weapons which i assume chaos has

[fallen shale]

I'm using that craftable crossbow I was recommended

[storm lantern]

i would guess 50% weather buff is not enough to make up for it though

[fallen shale]

underlevelled

[abstract sequoia]

and which lvl and synergy?

[fallen shale]

synergy?

[abstract sequoia]

yea it got synergies

[fallen shale]

no like what does that mean

[abstract sequoia]

oh

basically you can fuse 2 extra copies of the same wep to buff a passive effect

[storm lantern]

refinement/superimposition/overclock

[fallen shale]

ohhhh

nothing

it's refined but not upgraded

[abstract sequoia]

for foundry weps its the final step after lvl 50ing it

[fallen shale]

I was told not to invest too much into it lol

[abstract sequoia]

yea because you're expected to get signature wep

but if you already know you cant, might as well max it

[fallen shale]

I don't know I can't yet do I

I'm still waiting on the forecast

[abstract sequoia]

need to know your pity, crystals and p1 story progress

[fallen shale]

oh wait I misread, I thought you said "since" not "if" lol

in my case it depends on the forecast

[abstract sequoia]

the forecast?

[fallen shale]

but I have the xtals for it I can do it any time

[fallen shale]

waiting to see if badum will rerun second half

[abstract sequoia]

oh that

[fallen shale]

yea lol

[abstract sequoia]

just for weapon or the full valk

[fallen shale]

the valk
both ig

[abstract sequoia]

then i wouldnt

[sweet flax]

It's for personal reasons, I already discussed it with them

[abstract sequoia]

oh

[sweet flax]

Told them the benefits and downsides

[fallen shale]

yea

[abstract sequoia]

okay i wont pry into it then

[fallen shale]

but yeah my situation is basically
if rerun = no wep
if no rerun = wep

[abstract sequoia]

forecast for now is looking bad for badum

[fallen shale]

wep's guaranteed already so it's just that lol

[abstract sequoia]

at least for what we know for next patch

not everything is revealed yet though

beta is merely in v2

[lyric anvil]

I would say bad and good

[storm lantern]

really? what other banner are they gonna put there

[fallen shale]

I was told it'd be about 2 weeks into 8.4 (that it'd be revealed)

[sweet flax]

2 weeks into 8.3? by beginning of 3rd week cn should get the rerun

they are 4 weeks ahead, not 5

[fallen shale]

ok

[abstract sequoia]

idk for now we just know the spending calendar

[sweet flax]

||hofi outfit||

[fallen shale]

I did more perma content tho it seems I should comfortably hit around 30k by the start of 2nd half banner run

[storm lantern]

i meant 8.3 rerun

[abstract sequoia]

oh yea week 7 and 8 are not known yet

[fallen shale]

currently I'm on 21,708 xtals + 12 cards + 4 pity

[storm lantern]

there are already two concurrent with paws banner so i think its pretty likely

[abstract sequoia]

but knowing who is in 8.4, we can rule her out

[sweet flax]

you never know, hoyo could just rerun whgo they please

[abstract sequoia]

please no...

[fallen shale]

part 1er rerun for the chuckles

[storm lantern]

imagine reserve shop adv

[abstract sequoia]

wtf

[sweet flax]

check cn pins, ||all p1 charas will be in bp now, they arent getting anymore banners||

then again its hoyo's choice just going off previous patterns

[fallen shale]

anyway I'm still gonna wait until I have some definitive info

[sweet flax]

jul 11 we should know the 2nd part of 8.3 banners

[fallen shale]

as soon as that forecast comes in if it's not badum I'm diving straight for that wep lol

[abstract sequoia]

so near end of helia banner

[quick birch]

We should know in a few days

[sweet flax]

deleted to preserve brain cells

[quick birch]

iirc it's on the 9th

[abstract sequoia]

whats on the 9th

[quick birch]

Last 2 weeks banner announcement

[sweet flax]

ah

[quick birch]

For CN

[sweet flax]

oh you mean the announcement before the banners drop?

[quick birch]

Yuh

Don't take this for granted it's just what I remember from reading in CN chat

[fallen shale]

and eitherway I assume I can safely just skip 8.4

if only for lack of funds

[quick birch]

aren't the || spending|| banners already fully announced or am I tripping

[sweet flax]

im stupid

dont mind me

[quick birch]

[fallen shale]

so will the pin be updated when the info comes in or will there be another post

[quick birch]

Should be updated but the picture in DC isnt accurate all the time iirc

[fallen shale]

maybe it'd be easier to just pin the site instead of checking the channel lol

[quick birch]

it's pinned in #💁gameplay-help

[fallen shale]

the pin in the channel I mean

[mortal prawn]

Is this banner worth pulling for?

[storm lantern]

no, just use the globes on it

rewards are pretty bad you might want to check out the returnee accounts pin

[mortal prawn]

Alrighty then, but is the banner that's up right now worth it as a beginner? I don't really have a good team

[storm lantern]

yes, there's a pulling pin that gets updated regularly

no new character is really going to have a good team on a new account but she's kind of able to use an a-rank support a lot of characters can't

[mortal prawn]

Alrighty then, thanks!

[abstract sequoia]

just be aware of your crystals and saving them up properly before pulling

[mortal prawn]

How do i spend them wisely? Is crystals limited when you're late game or something?

[ancient needle]

Yes, the crystal income without one-time sources is not enough to afford every single valk + weap
It's generally a good idea to have ~30k when trying to get a valk

It's also generally best to prioritize only the brand new stuff

[ancient needle]

Keep in mind that it was meant that it's worth on new acc, you're too broke on your current one

[mortal prawn]

Oh alright, i just came back after a couple of months of not playing since i didn't have enough space. Im still pretty early since i quitted when im still level 25 and haven't finished anything yet. Is it worth rerolling the account then if that's the case? I'm level 35 right now

[abstract sequoia]

depends on what you have right now

any part 2 valkyries?

[mortal prawn]

I dunno if this is a lot. I just focus on combat and stuff

[abstract sequoia]

okay this isnt anything, would restart for starter events

you get all of that back in no time

and more

[mortal prawn]

Alright, good thing this wasn't my main email since i wanted my accounts to be my main email to easily access them

Thanks as well!

[abstract sequoia]

np anytime

[ocean kelp]

hey guys i aasked this before but forgot, what stig set do i want on my a rank helia in my s rank helia team

[quick birch]

You can use something like gluttony T fhm MB

Ideally you'd want a rank helias signature set but that's to expensive and you wont really get any crazy value out of it because a rank helia is basically dead in the meta

She's still usable as a cope option for beginners but otherwise meh

So just use gluttony T fhm MB for now

[ocean kelp]

kinda confused sa to what the letters mean LOL

so this one?

[quick birch]

Yes

[ocean kelp]

this for B

[quick birch]

tmb for
Top
Middle
Bottom
And fhm is fu hua musician

[quick birch]

No

[ocean kelp]

whats MB

[quick birch]

Middle bottom

[ocean kelp]

oh i c

so fu hua musician for M and B

[charred basin]

What the use of this item ?

[thick bolt]

upgrading the dkeys from realms of battle

as well as the dkey buffs in dorm

[charred basin]

Are those the same divine keys u got from now deleted coop?

[thick bolt]

yeah

[charred basin]

Cuz I think I got all beside invisible sword (nvm they added like 3 more)

[sick pebble]

I have 15k crystals and should I do a ten pull for paws for my gambling addiction 😭
(80 till guarantee valk, 41 till grantee weapon)

I have already used the discounted pull

[thick bolt]

then no

well technically you could if you really want paws, outside of that just skip for 8.4

[sick pebble]

what’s the next banner btw

[thick bolt]

schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins

[quick birch]

Otherwise for next version check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[sick pebble]

wow || should I get coralie pro max then ||

^ spoiler btw

[thick bolt]

she'll probably be the goal given your crystal count
as for her value need to wait for final beta for all the stuff, currently still in v2 iirc

[abstract sequoia]

if you save up enough, then yes

dont gamble hard when your chips are low

a good goal to follow would be to save up enough for 60 pulls, to guarantee weapon

from that point onward, keeping those 60 pulls around, you have enough to pull safely

[gaunt oak]

is my abyss cooked

[sick pebble]

so like 100 pulls + 60 pulls for weapon??? 😭😭

thatll be like 448k

[gaunt oak]

just 44.8k

[quick birch]

That's hard pity but it can happen

That's why we recommend ~30k once a patch drops since that is a 75% chance to get the valk + weapon

[abstract sequoia]

just keep 16800 in the tank

[gaunt oak]

#📿gacha-salt🧂 message

[abstract sequoia]

so the 60 pulls

[quick birch]

Yeah my helia pulls went the same

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[quick birch]

It's nothing too rare in this game

[abstract sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[gaunt oak]

is this like a bug

[abstract sequoia]

how did you do that even

also what stage is this

[gaunt oak]

top stage

idk after the dodging phase, it justbecame like that

[abstract sequoia]

welt knew he had no chance

smart move

but yea thats bugged

[gaunt oak]

guess ill just retry at home

thought there was some bs shield that my valks couldnt break

[sick pebble]

aight
Im close then I have 15k

[sick pebble]

what is that channel for

[gaunt oak]

(un)lucky moments

[sick pebble]

ahh yes I need that

[cold niche]

howdo i switch server?

nvm

[cold niche]

Is hohe not meta? I kinda just want to get the level bundle for the crystals, but I wanted her on my old account anyway too

[shadow gyro]

shes only used with her dkey which isnt recommended to backpull rn

but i think the other stuff in the bundle is still good if u wanna pay

at least gearless ely can still be used for early game but bc u dont have her dkey dont spend a lot of mats on her

[cold niche]

ok thanks!

[cold niche]

is there any way to get her for free?

[potent hamlet]

You know I just realized now; Is there any reason in not salvaging HoFi old stigs

[shadow gyro]

theres reserve bp but too expensive n the dkeys in there have more prio

[potent hamlet]

Isn't it a reward from the beginner progress now?

[shadow gyro]

she was also free in 7.9

[potent hamlet]

the starter guide thing

[potent hamlet]

anyways^

[shadow gyro]

thats jade knight or ur talking about hov

[potent hamlet]

they changed it no?

or is it the starter battle pass thing u need to buy

[shadow gyro]

i recall hofi is better in er with her old stigs, not sure about now

[shadow gyro]

the log in one is hov
the one u buy from starter manual is jk

[potent hamlet]

I mean i'm nuking everything in a single ult with her new stigs anyways so 💀

[shadow gyro]

hohe is in level rush

[potent hamlet]

oh that's the one i got confused

[shadow gyro]

up to u, do u really need the reso tho?

[potent hamlet]

Just to flex and finish elysia set tbh

[shadow gyro]

i would keep it just incase esp if leveled alr

[potent hamlet]

I had her geared day 1 6.3 so

[shadow gyro]

she doesnt need her old gear but i dont feel that its too rewarding to get rid of it for reso since u can farm g1 sets if u need reso

[potent hamlet]

hey I have a random wang zhenyi T on my fischl ill just reso that

[shadow gyro]

ure free to do what u wanna tho ||and since the gear will be in reserve next patch||

[shadow gyro]

could keep it unless ur not doing 7t hoo strat

[potent hamlet]

isn't that only for SS ma

[shadow gyro]

i have seen it being used on bull

[potent hamlet]

maybe ig

[shadow gyro]

unless u dont wanna wait to farm reso from g1 stigs ure free to do it
what do u wanna use the reso on tho?

[potent hamlet]

.

Not like I have much to do with Reso anyways lmao

it's a purely for fun thing since I haven't really found a good way to use reso in current p2

[shadow gyro]

mpe set is in foundry tho, up to u, since its not urgent i would personally wait but its fine if u wanna use them for reso

[potent hamlet]

I know

I have all the G3 and G4s for it

the issue is it will literally be another 6 months before i get to craft it cause of my ether fuel being a flat 0

[shadow gyro]

hmm yeah, gotta start the ether grind

[potent hamlet]

had to craft pieces for helia so

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[potent hamlet]

and im annoying so I kept the box and crafted all 3 pieces for collection

[shadow gyro]

[cold niche]

i played the game on and off so i missed a bunch of free stuff it seems, i recently got interested again because of the hsr lore and iwas like i just wanna play the game again

[potent hamlet]

ag

*ah

fair enough then

[cold niche]

I logged into my old account and this is what I had then

so now im just restarting cuz i play more for the meta now than in the past couple fo years

Quick question looking at the what to pull pin it syas if i dont have enough pulls for paws and her weapon i should wait for 8.4 info, is there anyway i can see the 8.4 info or is that only in leaks?

[ancient needle]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

And on a very new acc you should easily be able to afford her + weap

[ancient needle]

China is 4 weeks ahead of other servers

[cold niche]

ohhh i see, so i should aim to get paws? is she a support?

[small willow]

Kindly be reminded, leaks are not allowed

[ancient needle]

All P2 S-ranks are both DPSes and supports

And yes

[cold niche]

thats wild, but i will aim to pull paws then tyy

[rugged sorrel]

finally 1600 days

[ancient needle]

And still stuck in A3

[rugged sorrel]

yeet

havent buy hoyofest ticket

[potent hamlet]

some are better than others at certain roles

[low kestrel]

@ancient needlewhat i buy here

[shadow gyro]

get judah if u dont have it
can get mei beach or newton b, if ur not desperate for anything u can always wait

anything else will depend of if u wanna do any specific strats for ma

[potent hamlet]

oath of judah

[potent hamlet]

is ppm cope even real anymore

i haven't brought up ol' reliable GPN in months

[dry python]

I haven't used GPN in like 2 years

Ok that's a stretch I think

[amber finch]

i’d say its more like 1.5+ years

[autumn oxide]

cheese

i demoted from nirv on sampo 😔

[amber finch]

yes

[autumn oxide]

im rl (again) on bird

[amber finch]

stupid

[autumn oxide]

and im gonna be rl on guaymas too

[amber finch]

L

[autumn oxide]

cant believe im forced to be on the bench for the two s2 valks i hv

[amber finch]

literally the 2 weathers you can easily myriad

[autumn oxide]

its so fucked bro, why is hh so bad on sampo

[autumn oxide]

idt ive ever nirved on bird on my main

[amber finch]

crystals issue 💔

[autumn oxide]

and also its not really easily for bird

[amber finch]

oh?

[autumn oxide]

bird is still quite the mald; the easy one wldve been guaymas

[amber finch]

is it because everyone has ranked vita

[dry python]

Yeah

[autumn oxide]

no its cos i dont hv ss teri

[amber finch]

smh

[autumn oxide]

and pretty much everyone is forced to do the eva run

and the eva run is SOOOO cringe

[autumn oxide]

if u dont then u just get a slightly shittier score

[dry python]

Wtf is the Eva run

Eva-01

Shinji get in the fucking robot

[dry python]

Prof btw

[dry star]

as a new account, is there anything in particular I should save up the BP crystals for (including the next patch)? I have the paid BP, but I understand that the valks in the BP store typically are old, would buying weapons or stigs be better?

[quick birch]

the main focus for now would be divine keys for the +10 atk buff. Currently in the BP are

• Fenghuang down ( needs it craftable counterpart from foundry for the +10 atk)
• twins of eden
• might of An-Utu
• Abyss flower ( needs abyss for the +10 atk buff which is craftable in the foundry)
  || - next version they'll also add 7 thunders which is also a dkey||

[dry star]

thank you for this list

[ancient canopy]

hey, is there any shortcut or way to get all the drops at once? instead of having to walk over them

[ancient needle]

Are you talking about story stages?

Or smth else

[ancient canopy]

story stages i wasnt even aware theres something else

[ancient needle]

Then not really
Stuff gets autocollected at the very end of a stage, but you might not get it if it's too far

[ancient canopy]

what a terrible design choice

thanks

[dry star]

in the newer part 2 story chapters, there isn't a need to pick up dropped reward materials anymore from killing monsters btw

I enjoy it a lot more once I unlocked it

was also getting annoyed by picking up boxes/coins in the early part 1 story

[round spoke]

Hi guys, what are the priority Valkyries to get from the fragment shop?

[dry star]

war treasury? or something else

there's some priority buying guides in the pins

[round spoke]

This shop

[quick birch]

refer to asterite shop in pins

[round spoke]

It's not my image, I took it from google

[round spoke]

Ok ty

[quick birch]

its actually called asterite investment list mb

[round spoke]

Np

[lyric anvil]

This looks old asf

[untold umbra]

should i breakthrough already?

[neon orbit]

What's Bio Helia build in ER that doesn't overkill Kevin?
like at least 2 Astral ring rotations

last week my build defeated him when it was barely 3rd bar of her KE

[sterile river]

You’re trying to kill Kevin… slower?

[neon orbit]

Time limit isn't strict in this mode so I like to complete a full rotation. It's more fun for me

[sterile river]

Just get bad signets I guess

[neon orbit]

like, what's the point of cool move when I can't even get to use it

[ancient needle]

It's a good idea to turn off the Variable Arms buff in that case btw

[sterile river]

It’s pretty easy to botch an ER run

[neon orbit]

What is that

[ancient needle]

It's described in the Deep Sequence menu

But essentially it deals damage automatically

[neon orbit]

This? I even had it off

[ancient needle]

Great, I'd keep it that way in your case

[neon orbit]

I literally don't pick any buff this time

let's see how it goes

[maiden garden]

am i fine if i just unlock and level up all the helia skills? or is there something i should avoid unlocking?

[dry star]

ive got a dumb question, I was afraid of using that buff because it makes it sound like damage not from using weapon skill is reduced by 95% but I want to check if thats what it means

[ancient needle]

Go ahead and unlock everything, that's the standard here
If you're broke on mats prioritize offensive stuff

[maiden garden]

bet thanks

[ancient needle]

No, it makes the Variable Arms effect (scroll up in that menu) the only reliable damage source

Variable Arms is essentially passive damage

Not related to WA at all

[dry star]

oh shoot
I thought variable weapons was pri arm weapons

[thick bolt]

current weather effect, getting a flamechasers signet unlocks the corresponding passive weapon that does the killing for you, scales with signets gotten and cores

[dry star]

ah thank you
I really wish there was a way to disable google's AI results cause I googled what a variable weapon was yesterday and it told me:

In Honkai Impact 3rd, the term "variable weapon" isn't an official weapon category like "Pistols" or "Katanas". However, it could refers to:

1. Weapon Active Skills:

   Many weapons in Honkai Impact 3rd possess unique active skills that require a certain amount of SP (skill points) to activate.

[thick bolt]

Lol

[ancient needle]

I mean, there is

[dry star]

I played a run of deep sequence ER with the variable weapons buff and only spammed weapon skill the whole time

[sweet flax]

I mean, the AI is not really smart when it comes to hi3 as far is it knows it thinks dea anchora is still the newest unit, but knows herrscher trio exists

[ancient needle]

AIs hallucinate who the newest unit is in every convo

[sweet flax]

I mean gpt knows who paws is so its a step in the right direction

[ancient needle]

[maiden garden]

is there ever a need to go for dupes of the S rank valkyries, or just 1 copy and weapon is enough usually?

[ancient needle]

Dupes are only for whales

And even if you are a whale it's better to get more valks first

[maiden garden]

ahh

[thick bolt]

heroine

[sweet flax]

as a whale can confirm, ranks are irrelevant compared to newer units

[maiden garden]

more enemy types so more team types?

[ancient needle]

It's not limited to enemy types, but yes

[sweet flax]

more teammates = more team options which allow for better use cases as well as more versatility and what we refer to as "BiS" in certain weathers

[thick bolt]

it's the tradeoff between:

new boss coverage, more teamcomps available
vs
+10 score on a boss

[maiden garden]

i see

[ancient needle]

(out of 1000)

[maiden garden]

so as a start getting helia means good for lighting teams, i guess?

[ancient needle]

Teambuilding is not based on elements

Only the element of the DPS matters in most cases

[sweet flax]

getting paws means you have a bio lightning dps who specializes in the GoI ring, and since she is being shilled right now weathers will emphasize these parts of her kit

[dry star]

this is what chatgpt says is the most meta character right now:

[maiden garden]

ohhh

[sweet flax]

called it

[ancient needle]

Freeze support 😭

[sweet flax]

like genuinely if you look ask chatgpt for meta

[ancient needle]

(HoTr can't Freeze at all)

[dry star]

hov

[ancient needle]

@frozen crypt

[sweet flax]

lyo propaganda

[dry star]

Its her updated p2 kit trust

[frozen crypt]

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

Ah, it's just referencing other AI-generated articles

[sweet flax]

ye

[ancient needle]

The AI slop thickens

[sweet flax]

funnily enough

it references websites

kind of scary to think some people use this as justification for units

account doomed on day 1

[dry star]

AI poisoning itself by cannibalizing each other's hallucinations is really quite funny

[frozen crypt]

dead internet theory soonge

[sweet flax]

getting off topic, but I need to share this 😭

[thick bolt]

[ancient needle]

It's just random words atp

[outer spruce]

memories

[ancient needle]

Holy shit, it got 2 right

[thick bolt]

This is getting more and more unhinged

lmao teammate

[sweet flax]

I mean.... its not too far off.... ignoring the 11th sacred relic, and if it said elemental not fire dmg

[frozen crypt]

yeah you should probably stop before some idiot takes one of those posts seriously xDDDD

[maiden garden]

i tried selecting helia for an expedition but she didn't appear there, is she only usable for part 2 content?

[ancient needle]

A lot of P1 content doesn't allow P2 valks, ye

[sweet flax]

p2 units are only usable in end-game content and p2 story

[frozen crypt]

that's correct yeah, something like chapter 4 stops you using part 2 characters

[ancient needle]

Some P1 stages allow P2 valks as well

[sweet flax]

o

small indie company, please forgive them

[maiden garden]

damn so im gonna need to play a while before i can see my valkyrie 😭

[sweet flax]

btw are these affixes fine?

[dry star]

no you only need to do a certain number of chapters (its very low) to level enough to skip to p2 story which is its own storyline

[sweet flax]

or should I get more attack on second

[ancient needle]

That should be good enough

[quick birch]

abyss and MA are already unlocked at a lower level but they'll change a lot once you reach level 81 especially abyss

[thick bolt]

(Upto Ch 3 at least, connects later)

[maiden garden]

ohhh

[ancient needle]

It's tied to the level btw, not the number of chapters

[maiden garden]

is it the exalted thing i saw a bit earlier?

[ancient needle]

You need lvl 30

[maiden garden]

oh im close to that

[dry star]

oh good to know
yeah with the starter manual lvl 30 comes incredibly fast, like same afternoon kind of thing

[quick birch]

probably exalted is lvl81+

[dry star]

💀 leveling that alt account without starter manual deluge of free exp was horrifically slow

[maiden garden]

so once i get helia and weapon i just save right

[thick bolt]

yeah

[maiden garden]

bet

[dry star]

Btw what is this blue thing in ER?