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hm yeah maybe don't bother then. This abyss is way too uphill overall
just to make sure you triggered stellar drain every outburst cycle right?
hohe non outburst damage isn't good for WoD and nothing else on the team is notable for that either (and they're all fire too)
S0
ye cooked
i was gonna mention that next
hohe is expected to be ss by now so that makes it even more uphill
and again scores are as high as 800-900 for this one
every other cycle, but i didnt use it immediately
that sounds really strange
you know i'm talking about outburst cycles right? So everytime an outburst ends, and before the next one starts, at any point, you're doing the attack to restore a bunch of ARI?
you didnt insta so?
i'm not talking about cycles as in swapping in valks
i pretty much just do WA and Ult during Stellar Drain for the supports and the full DPS cycle for Leader
this is WoD though
PS for cd reset
it's hohe dps with hofi and cora
inside stellar shift
ah in stellar yeah then nvm
stellar drain isn't a duration. it's just an effect from a particular attack
are you confusing stellar drain with stellar outburst?
i think so
but you can't swap to supports with the WoD outburst
Stellar Outburst Begin -> PS DPS Cycle -> QTE HoHE WA Ult -> QTE Badum WA Ult -> PS DPS cycle -> Stellar Outburst End
oh we're talking about LoA now? I thought we were talking about WoD
you have teri Op?
I dont have any WoD supports
i do
we've already gone over this. While you don't, you can still attempt with double RoO
but your WoD outburst will be more lacking because
I should make this clear, I do have P2 HoFi Gear, I do not have the Valkyrie Herself.
the main purpose of a WoD support (shadow star) is to give more rondo effect time during an outburst, which is triggered whenever you tap a support (can see above your hp bar)
what the hell lol
so why is this a hohe boss instead of thelema 
ron has hofi everything without hofi
ok i didn't look closely at your earlier screenshot. i didn't realize that was still loa
maybe you can try p1 hohe instead depending on what you have but i'm not expecting much
I had this SS as a joke a while back
HoFi gear no Valk
Is there an Alternative for JK Weapon? I can make a P1 HoHE if i have a weapon replacement
anyway i'm really not sure whether i would go with badum or ps leader here. Try both i guess.
You may opt to try to cycle hohe in more to do some damage.
When using outburst don't start with your dps unless you expect to kill soon. Try using the stellar shifts (purple super qte) starting with your supports first. This is because you want to free them from stellar shifts first so you can go back to regularly QTE'ing them
and in an LoA team, regular QTEs can give you a heavenly link effect every 16s
the big thing about them is that they deal adaptive damage from the leader, and also restores 15 ARI so you can outburst sooner again
so you kinda want to make sure you are getting these when you can
do you have nebulous
the thing about JK is she lacks sp
hos old signature can work too
but also if you're lacking gear for the p1 team then maybe don't bother
She had enough with nebs but if no extra sp on first rot its a bit hellish (at least from my experience)
i really don't expect it to come remotely close if it's not already well built
i can buy it from the exchange ship, thankfully
JK: 2/4 TB
HoHE P1: 4/4
Kira: 4/4
P1 as in her older gear right
yea
because solon and newer gear dont' work well with that team
hmm
well don't do it yet
but that's prob your most potent option
evaluate the competition tomorrow to decide if you should spend the resource
also make sure you have nothing better to spend those blue resonances on
if you don't already have judah i wouldn't mind losing this abyss and picking that up from exchange shop
Would it suffice if I did a run with the same gear to get a rough idea of the score?
yeah please
i already have Judah fortunately
maybe scale down for ranks too
Ye sure
but idk how you would do that
honestly if this doesn't score within 100 points i'm not expecting a retain loosely speaking because hohe and thele are popular and the fight is very simple
I could remove kira's gear and run 3pc jk stigs?
Well I'll try different things and give the average score 
I'll also mention the highest and lowest and what gears I used
don't over exert yourself lol
i think it'll be good enough to just post a recording of the run with similar gear and they can try to extrapolate from there
maybe swap something out for turg instead of signature
kiana elf might give a good enough idea anyway
sure
anyway ron in the future with how unbalanced your account is, please take extra care to double check and be clear of the info you're giving us
be extra clear if there's anything incomplete because you know the norm is to get both valk and weapon otherwise
will note that
but also again try not to skip PS gear. I would even consider as far as catching up on it in a rerun if it's soon assuming you cannot afford the next valk anyway
we kinda have witnessed how awkward it becomes when you have incomplete valks
granted i don't think a geared PS would've saved you in this scenario either
but there will be situations where it's more meaningful
run is beyond saving, scores less than his cope hohe p2 team
hohe ss 4/4
jk ss 3/4 + nebs
kira eop turg tb mei m
i don't normally recommend catching up on a rerun tbh but if you're going to take breaks and invest in sporadic points, it's prob better to have complete stuff in your roster at least
yeah i really didn't expect much. ty for checking
i'm surprised it's worse tbh
tbh I could probs try to get a better run, but I think it would've been at most 530-540 range
so not meaningful for ron
yeah
almost 500D is brutal for RL
it went down
it was over 500 in 8.1
and tbh, if most player's cases are similar to yours, the dist will only go down more
even more dist decrease 
to add, im not sure if this qualifies as an actual good run, but a 12/12 9s hor team was only able to get 542 in my bracket
Old players quitting and new players joining is definitely helping with the D decrease
oml, the top 3 are using SS2 HoHE with Vita and Thelema
yeah why aren't you 
529 
tfw i did better on Luna
i love advance supply 💀
honkai just make the BIGGEST EVENT EVER
and sorry honkai, but this new event of cook is not funny
i got elys bow thank you to the guy who told me i could save pity on weapon banner
oh nooo...
building pity is insane
yeah
is there a way to reset it or i just make a new one
new one
who do yall recommend pulling or saving for
Post that in #invite-links-here
we don't normally permit other people posting their invite code here unless a beginner has asked for one and if the person sharing the code has been helping in the channel
anyway @gritty flame i'm going to delete your message to make it fair for others. Sorry.
So the boss came in to take matter in his/her own hands
i'm not really a boss around here actually. I'm just a professor. More info about that in #st-freya-faq
I do have delete privileges for stuff like spam and I do think this can fall under that if left unchecked
the more actual bosses you'll find in the server are the mods with the dark green names lol

otherwise in short i'm here because i'm recognized for being helpful so you generally can trust my word (albeit some professors are out of tune of the game by now or may be helpers for other channels rather than here)
and part of my role is to try to encourage/remind people about the rules
although if you ever find an issue with my behavior or actions, feel free to report me to the modmail (the actual bosses) lol
So the mods are boss . humans are just under them . aha that makes sense .
wording it that way sounds problematic lol
we're all human here, even though people tend to think i'm an a.i. bot because i give lengthy in depth responses
wait...
Exactly what a bot might say.. hmmm..
Anyway sai, im trying to cook RS FWS Coralie
So far its 564 lol
anyway i'm sure you're just joking but more seriously this is a big and also official server. Of course there will be mods and rules to make sure things don't go out of hand
oh this is similar to Ron from earlier lol
Is a score of 638 enough to retain?
but yeah if you don't have p2 ely or thele then i really don't have good prospects
To be clear. I have hohe and lema
Im just doing this because of a certain someone
i can't say anything for sure but probably not
i already told you earlier the more proper scores will be high 800 or low 900
Possible. Depends on bracket. Id aim for 700+ tho
Oh wait. Is this a3
bracket with 10 slackers
Luna team works so much better than PS team for the boss in my experience
Right luna user
By a 100+ point difference
hold on you can't just blindly say that lol
there were some caveats to your scoring
what did i say earlier about being more clear
people are going to assume your PS has her signature weapon
PS is actually having advantage on the PSY mobs
yeah and Ron's PS is using brick
as goofy as my brackets get, it's looking like a no
Incrediby infinite intimidagor?
oh ok
Idk something like that
i've never seen it shortened that way lmao
i3
yeah my mind thought you were talking about some processor lmao
Nvidia
core i3 brick
To be fair. I just made it up
brick better or oblivion down?
I’m like 18 pulls away from pity for weapon, and I’m struggling to scrap random gems together 🙃
Like literally rn
also what
With just one swipe... ur problem is fixed
F2P doesn’t have a credit card
there's more i can say but for anyone unfamiliar, don't read into Ron's numbers. Let's move on lol
So if I get her weapon, is the comparison valid?
probably not if you're not rotating properly
well rotating is the wrong term
your fight sequence needs to be optimized
Maybe ~ 650 for ps team with ds
but also there's no real point to this comparison. Both teams in their current state will probably fail to retain
loosely speaking you can look at a standard reference score and go roughly 200 points from it for a retain range. Actually in the case of this abyss when the fight is straightforward and all the teams for it are popular, i would even go as far as 100 or 50 points within the reference
Having HoFI valk would be nice and use the RoO tag for HoHE.
Who knows when she’s gonna be given out for free like HoO HoS and HoHE
so anyway if you're not scoring high 700 then i feel you're in trouble. But maybe i'm wrong since i haven't really been in RL lately or brackets can be imbalanced
hard to imagine when hofi was available in a spending event already
i guess come to think of it horb was too but people are coping for a free horb next
obviously it's too early to say anything for certain though
Is there a big diff between ss0 and ss2 hohe
i'm not sure tbh
i heard ss1 was big but i think it's extra CA damage? which are definitely big parts of her kit but her ult and weap are big too
please double check
would you all recommend me to get key of ego if i cant get flawless benediction? I really like HoHe and may use her as a filler unit in memorial arena
where do these thingies come from
Battle Pass
U get 5 per patch as a f2p, 3 from bp, 2 from dorm shop
You get way more if you buy the battle pass
But I don’t know the exact amount I would have to count it
18 and 24
That's fine if you really want to, but I don't think she's notable in MA
but from the reserve works of the pink orb shop,is it a good option?
A lot of her DMG comes from her ult, and it'll take a while to get there in MA
Oh, absolutely not
What else would be 💔
Ideally you should be getting limited dkeys from there
Like, for example, Twins of Eden or Might of An-Utu
You get dkeys for the passive acc-wide +10 ATK for each one
10 attack..
so thats why this account has seven thunders even without having HoT
Yes, 10 ATK by itself is not much, but if you get like 7 of them that alr is very significant
do you get those from free divine keys like grips of tai xuan and cleaver of shamash and shit
jizo mitoma (something like that)
Only get 3/4 gene limit from RoB DKeys I believe
do yall know how to unlock the log in thing
i thought you cld get like hov
im lvl 25 alr
yah i dont see a starter manual
Is it not at the bottom of the screen?
Odd
cld it because this acount was made a while ago but like i instantly quit bfr the quest even came up tho
like bfr the frist cutscene or anything
Yeah if the account was made a whole ago you probably missed it
bro thats so annoying
Tbh best to just make a new one starter manual rewards are good
aight thnaks
Just learned of when you get it also-
If you are using a Gmail email you can create a new acc with salting
If you don't know what salting is check out this FAQ it's explained here
thankss
++
Any beginner guide ?
hi guys, so i’ve been planning to go back to hi3 but i’m wondering whether i should keep using my old account which i used between 3.x - 5.x or make a new account, my problem with my old account is that the valkyries are probably and most likely outdated which i wouldn’t be able to use properly for some contents of the game
thoughts would be appreciated
thanks ill check it out
Tganks
Otherwise if you have any question just ask them and check pins there are a lot of common questions there
give me a few hours or so i just started downloading the resources lol
Yeah np take your time 
hello Is the current banner good ? Im new to the game
Peregrine Sword is recommended to get (with her weapon), keep 60 pulls in the tank while pulling the valk so that she doesn't end up weapless
is she bad without her weapon ?
Yes
Signature weapons are mandatory here in general
I see
Should I bother doing the abyss if I dont have thelama?
https://imgur.com/a/48ikVAr
worth keeping? Or do i restart
i stopped playing around 5.x but came back for like a day to pull for herr rebirth lol
depends on the bracket and rank atleast get the 15k points for thr 100 crystals if you choose to skip
This guy's the lowest one 21774 I only have s0 hohe 
I cannot beat the second stage of this abyss, help 😭
do you understand how the last enemy works? The box on the left explains it if not
but otherwise the other main gimmick in this stage is that enemies will have shields that reduces your damage greatly unless you apply enough rime trauma. HoHE isn't really good at it. Do you have thelema? You may need to move away from LoA to fit her in.
Another thing you can try is to leave the team as is, but drop one member for reverist calico. However I do not know if this is truly worth it for a situational shield removal.
you do have some collectables but if you are not attached to them it's best to restart imo. You can always come back to this acc and enjoy your collectables if you feel like it
i kinda demonstrated it here albeit with a different team.
also check here for a brief explanation #💁gameplay-help message
you can also HoHe ult -> SO for some extra rime trauma in exchange for dmg but since these are multiple waves you wont be able to do this on every enemy, but at least doing it on the last one is worth it imo
also iirc you have fws ? im not quite sure on how big the dmg loss would be but at least buff wise she's better than jds from what i remember
Sadly shes my only ice p2. I remove the boss invulnerability pretty fast but the dmg I deal is too little
HoHe doesnt get any sp tho
She‘s not, tried a few times
throw in one charged attack and she should gain some, since you rotate a lot with LoA anyway that will add up over time
Ohkay
from what i remeber from wyvereins dmg comparsion fws hohe had ~7% more dps than songque Hohe. Irrc your songque is also weaponless so i'd imagen that badum should still be better despite the weather debuffs
what exactly are you doing on badum when she's a support ?
Ohhh u mean support, havent tried that one
Usually wp skill and ult
yeah you'd want to do her CA instead of her WA
Ohhk
and fws dps should be pretty bricked this cycle yeah 
I finally did it tysmm
I have both vita and lantern, should I get ellies divine key to make this team?
lantern is quite lacking for an hohe dps team. Please don't blindly follow what other random people are doing
Cooking
hohe wants thelema. While there is an ascension supply for thelema right now, these banners are similar to adv banners where they are for whales to gain ranks in, and not reliable to get the valk early from. Expect to need to sink 100 rolls to get the valk. Check [all supplies explained] in pins for more details about adv banners
and at this point while thelema is notable for hohe, overall she's too old and niche to be worth pulling
keep in mind your crystals are limited and it's arguably better to focus on newer releases that are more relevant and have more coverage along with better longevity
!faq pull
Yo, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the pulling priority for this patch!
can check this out (also in the pins) for what to consider pulling
its also an ingame recommendation, which most people probably havent realised arent good 80% of the time
oh that's messed up lol
ye hohe lds lp 
yeah don't trust ingame recommendations either. they are usually wrong like right now or outdated
.
you better put a fast lid on this one before you start baiting new players with boxes
(in other words, don't do it. It's not good)
Oh right i forgot about the SW box
the temptation to find quick solutions rather than long term investments is very strong in beginners
@patent lion just to make sure you don't miss my response
eh i think it's more that they just don't know yet
Just tried it. 680 ish.
Any tips for hellmaru? I used sus badum hohe there too and only got 651, need at least 751 to sustain RL
you wont be able to retain with that team no, I just tried a run with ss ps and got 763, so s0 ps very likely wont retain
Hohe DPS cycles can be quite demanding
Both HoHe and thele are fairly popular so don't expect to be able to compete with them
Especially when everyone and their grandma can get HoHe to SS+
Rank and dkey diff prob makes a notable difference tbf
I lack dkeys, so its mainly just ranks
Ainoway dkey less whel
but since hohe ranks arent as relevant on supp, and fws is s0
if they have teri it could be doable
Guess what
why do you think I was celebrating when dkeys are on the permanent bp 😭

No Teririri iirc
Alr tried vita dps? 
no
I need rating on my run. Do i just lack hohe ranks or smth
either way I dont think I should be the one trying vita dps (s2 vita and really good atk
)
I can try vita but it's sea temp
hohe thel dsa?
s0 hohe 
What score are you expecting
859
880ish
Could be dmg gapped
Maybe
Could also be rng, who knows 
Try to be as far away from the fire pillar when hell spawns
Any reason?
Some attacks target it
Targetting BS?
It's mainly the ba and not the manta ray but every little bit counts 
probs could be improved but im too lazy
Seems about right
Oh nvm just running thel dps is higher 
826 but kek'd some part so 830-840+
Bad run
I don’t have new Sushang,which alternatives I should use to beat Lantern in MA?
My account is pretty much P2 related (No teri)
Not enough eva on thel 
You can cut the ari stall at the start by evading the fireball twice
What about after the mobs?
You can wa on hhe twice after ult ends, wa charge should reset by the time you go back to her after thel
If still not enough dmg you can just sena ult to kill instead of ba on hhe
Short hold wa slightly faster (time ticks more slowly) than tap wa
I believe thel also had more dmging combo involving hold A but idr what it was
Can oso try ult before moi on the end so you get refreshed ult buff on moi hit, not sure if that is more dmg or any faster but can try
If you cba to eva bald the start and have teri op that sacs some dmg to allow you to skip the evas 
Well. S sera more ari hmmm
Worse score but allows you to reset less which may be better since 2h left
Oh you have sera
Filthy whel 
Nah t1 anyway
Im just doing this to practice phone gaming again
Ah just malding for the love of the game
Hhe also has no advantage for scoring headshots
My laptop fried itself so now i need to regain phone muscle memory
Wait im dumb how to dodge fireball twice. Need to do it mid ult?
evade + jump
One dodge one jump
yeah its hard to do on phone
you can look to rushing events for the gold purchase or afk'ing the gold expedition
otherwise gold has been one of those gradual accumulation currencies, no "fast" way to get it
You can look to salvaging dupe blue rarity weapons if you haven't already
Well well well. Asterite conversion bad idea me think
very bad idea: metals, farming sp ranks, ae imag for honkai shards, ncc's
and the 100 asterite to 14k gold conversion yeah scam
Oh cool
u can pay attention to open world tasks. some tasks have more coin reward than others at the same tier/main reward
for example a SSS+ task with main reward AE imaginon can vary from 17k to 36k coin
salvaging the worst exp chip is also worth mentioning. but i do not recommend for a new acc
I always found it weird how the lowest stam cost ones (36) have the most coins (39k)
because its tier SSS+
It doesn't really make sense that you spend less to get more tho
especially when EX tasks are like 41 stam?
u forgot the main reward
I mean, even for same reward tasks the lower stam ones give higher coins lol
Like I see two 4 AE imag missions with one costing less stam but higher coins
the coin reward as i said can vary from 17k to 39k for a SSS+ task
Can songque clear the elysian realm y'all?
depends on gear, any valk can with gear
Yes
+4 ARI = -4s farming
2 seconds
base ari regen is 2 per second
I have her stigmatas level 50 all, I don't own her weapon but I own the yellow weapon but it's also max
How many minutes does it take for her to complete usually?
I had an earlier run where i managed to thelema ult with the fireball so that was anothrer extra dodge
But then i managed to whiff it by accidentally skipping sena qte gah
full gear? about 5 minutes probably
with your situation I'd say 7-8?
Aim for x2.25, or x2.5 at max, finality is unnecessary
is this with no-ring or ring build?
What does that mean
why bodhi signets 
she has slow attacks
I'm new 😭
Idk when I use my skill I get 30+ more combo hits and it's the begter option than the rest-
basically, there's usually 2 playstyles for each valk that are dictated by their elysia signets
check pins for the ER guide
W that you cleared corruption at least though
if you want more visual guidance, there's also sites like marisaimpact and arustats. marisaimpact especially tells you how to play based on the elysia signets you choose
I js chose the one that resets and fills my astral bar
in that case you want only those that buff stellar outburst state
or get you faster back into it
mobius signets are usually not needed in that case, if the elysia signet already gives you AR in some way
they still help a lot in songque's case though for damage
mobius' theme is around summoning stuff, that includes shadows and whatnot

that happens if you don't choose elysia signet that buff non-ring state
There is also one elysian signet that if I use my skill something drops from the sky and it's kinda op but I can't it (not stellar burst btw)
thats one of the non-ring stuff
the full build would be Summonings > Ambush and optionially Premonition
Should I pull for thelema or save for next banner
if you want that early on a full run, you can pick the thorn crown to get 2 elysia signets at the start
on lite runs, just pick "because of you" instead and use it on Floor 7
have you already pulled Peregrine Sword?
Well first of all what's your crystals count
I can pull for 30 more
hm, i wouldn't unless you can guarantee her weapon too
Okay so I'll save for the next banner including their wep
yea thats what you usually should do
weapon enables a lot to everyone's playstyle
Songque especially is very crippled without it, at least as a sole DPS
I'll also probably cry with the amount of honkai cubes
you'll get used to it, the bigger problem later is Einstein Torus
for Pri-arm upgrades
honkai cubes farming will pick up once you get your adventure rank up in open world, because quests will give you more AE imaginon
on max level the norm is 3-4 per task
Wow
I'm like on level 76 now
I kinda regretted levelling up so fast because I struggle in abyss
not related to your captain rank, i meant that
I see thanks, it’ll probably take a few versions before i have a team for each type since i started pretty late
its individual for each open world, so i'd focus on maxing one first
I'm still continuing my post honkai thing
yeah post honkai 1 and 2 is what gives you the best loot
so good first choice
sakura samsara is kinda eh with that
luckily songque in LoA can get a CA charge after qte. without signature weapon it would be a pain to farm for that charge
yea, that saves her a lot as a support. especially with FWS
yeah bad banner but good luck
is it still impossible to play the hi3rd regions on ios?
The what
that's only the case for CN
and you can only get into that if you live there
as a foreigner, all you have is bilibili servers iirc
Is there any consequence of if armada ran out of fame? I think many OG in my armada had gone...(Phone cant handle or burnout probably)
So I have the free HoH from a while back, should I get her dkey? Pity is in 27 and i have 28k xtals
if it's that inactive that probably means you aren't even getting the weekly crystals or sim battle rewards
would just recommend a switch
nah skip, getting new valk > backpulling dkey
thanks
Wait which armada mission gives crystals?
25 crystals for reaching a weekly contribution threshold as an armada
main thing is the sim battle reward, warehouse, commision rewards anyways
the crystal task is just a baseline for judging activity
Lemme check iirc still full
Yea crystal's full, but not the sim
You see...im the leader now 
ok i got the valk and wep,about the stigma should i gacha it or just farm it?
contect for acc
new acc,ontly used the sum of 20-ish pulls
just farm if you got the wep
kk
Throwing another 10 pull in is a viable strat if you didn't use a lot of crystals on the other stuff
both is fine
damn i dont have enuf mats for sub stigma
yeah thats normal
but you should be able to first clear mirage for free
without using attempts
unless you mean prisms, in that case you might actually want to follow Starfire's advice
can get some from event shops of course but yknow how slow the gain is

I just started playing and idk who I should pull for!
!faq pull
See pins
I also got senadina and idk what to do w her 
check Ai-chan's wall of guides, especially "What is worth Pulling this Patch?"
OKAY THANKUU 
i jump to my own msg 
yea
Guess ill die
I um don’t understand anything
No teriop in nirv
Wait stellar weather assaka?
Whos it for?
Just overall what the words meant
and I’m not good at English either
Thats assaka is it not?
Whos it for? 😃
you mean the short letter terms like "PS"?
yepp
Thats because we refer to characters as battlesuits
or li sushang's newest battlesuit
oohhh
should I pull for sushang
StFu 
Is my favorite
Or whatever
we do have a glossary for these here: #👶beginner-help message
THANKU
that helps alot
i would do it how the pulling guide suggests it, including in which patch week we are in
so how do I know that
Theres a big fat sign that says "we are here"
this is the small bit

broo the flashbang
Gah light mode. Flashbang
maybe I’m just stupid
SOMEONE JUST SAY THE IT
No ur blind. Theres a difference!
chucklenuts
YES OR NO
okay maybe that too
0.55
what?
only then pull
Errrr
not my words
only wep smh ram
Im addicted to gambling
I don’t think thats possible
Ew reroll
or just save for next patch imo
you really need to pace yourself there, sorry. a valk without weapon is a huge damage loss
guys please
fair enuf
Seriously tho?
credit card then
dont gotta worry bout shit with that
Honkek is patience
berwi free promo?
there is no 50/50, so we can afford patience
Game punishes inconsistency
Yes?
you get what you pull for
slay
But assaka
man, i was in dreams lobby and expected it to be fun as heck but he dint even mald
No teriop in nirv very scary
bro dint even make t10 😔
uh oh
I did the first pull that it forced me too do on senadina and I got her so should I get her weapon then?
i wouldn't. she is pretty old now and those pulls are better used on newer valks that support more recent astral rings
how astral ring works is explained here pretty well
that's your account goal, making teams around that system
Starter banner skem btw
No PS. Uh oh
i mean its nice to luck out on starter banner on first pull
Surely RS jds fws
just dont put more crystals into it
OKAY
doubt
Huhu. I rather not use a strat that dies
would recommend these 2 guides for that banner topic
Who to use in ER this time? Tired of spamming helia
ew valo
I love u
But not good nuff
never enough good enough to help beginners
Uwu
oh uh i assume no PS?
Mhmm
just jump kiana
you have more options than you think
I knkw
thelema is nice
if you want something on-weather just do HoHe
with prioritizing helix
pistols have badum and hofi with not a lot of effort involved
even no dk hofi
also senti
not brick senti tho unless you have that 4/4
where can u see sushangs weapon or
Like where can I pull for it if I do decide to try and get her
Hmm

Bodhi...
bodhi go brrrr
Supply > Supply > Equipment Supply A
Time for because of you

can someonee help me pass? i already reached card lvl 65
sure, i have a couple teams
can u list them
No mobius 3 star? Immortal mobius tank so fun
healers would like to have damage reduction for that
only got one 💀
hi arky warky
hello
The kebean stunlock supremacy
bottle
forge dirac again duh
Yeah ill jusy use ely tb dirac M
second team: SP regen en masse with 3 assassin and 3 support team. can switch bird with aponia and maybe the flute healer with quantum jellyfish, but having these 2 affixes is essential for this to work
o i mean ig its ok
still need all beans 
for?
more golden cookies on afk i guess
o
you get that instead of xp when you're maxed out
ic
yappers supremacy
Su 1 or 2
1, you're melee
Doesnt shee throw the shurikena
she still slashes a ton
yes on su and eden. not sure about kevin
her ult is burst mode after all
Hi guys who can i use elysia with now that i have her new bow?? I have fully geared thelema but not senadina
kevin 1 and 2 options, see what makes more sense for you based on how much you're prioritizing the enhancements
who else do you have?
Geared sparkle, coralie, helia and weaponless p2 teri
put teri as a 3rd slot, but never switch her in. in WoD teams you can consume teri's stellar drain with anyone you like
also HoHe as leader
Ohh okay
Should i save for a different valk to replace teri in that team?
Or someone to make a teri sparkle team since i have geared sparkle
i wouldn't backpull anyone for those cases, just save for next patch assuming you don't have enough now for Peregrine Sword
Ohh, do you know if the new valk works with any of my valks?
yea, sparkle and ely
||its the unknown ring||
for more infos, check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
Thank u!!
np, anytime
sparkle doesn't have the unknown tag though
okay made a mistake sry
is it worth pulling on the drop supply banner?
Dorm?
Only with the free cards and even then you wanna have 20 saved over for spending events
never with crystals
you will have to use coralie as third slot for the 8.3 valk
So new valk elysia coralie?
Okay thank you
Would u still recommend the new valk if i can only use her w ely and coralie tho
it's difficult to say
i mean do you have savings for PS?
or are you blank now
Noo i used all of my crystals for elysias bow 
Ohh okay
just dont try to pull PS now, you will need her weapon to be good
and you dont have the xtals
Rip
i cant decide between choogins pj bunny or kiana from the free ELF box. for P2 teams, i have vita and the new sushang with their gears. For P1 teams i have senti team well built, with her gears and all
i dont have other chars with their weapons help
i mean your elf choice really depends on your main focus meta-wise
peregrine sword and vita
cause idk if senti is even meta anymore
Just read the elf pin
in a vacuum assuming no elfs unlocked it's either unlocking kiaelf or just sitting on the box till you know you have a usecase
so kiana over pj bunny?
kiaelf is good for 2 elements, but needs 3* to be better than Dreamseeker in most teams. PB is similar, but can be good already with 2* IF you use 2+ Physical part 2 valks
you just have to live with the ARI deficit
either are already good, kiaelf even has a general elemental buff which is already an upgrade over jingwei
for part 1 that is
kek, all I know is when I wanted to mald before 7.3 HoTT lack of elf gather was screwing me 2k points 
still have trauma
kiaelf has a little delay but it's large
and procs twice
oh
probably the next thing that releases, and repeat that a few more times 
classic powercreep gacha game
are you the returnee that pulled Flawless?
yes
it's more shillcreep than powercreep tbh
yea then next patch, cant go PS now with no savings
same shit, same result
they all are the best at what they do, they just don't run stuff for the older ones
i got thelema and ely DK
Could build on that by pulling 8.3 valk tbh
or Badum if she turns out to be strong in every ring she offers
evil robot?
||Helia Henshin||
yeah
is it woorth to find the uglier ely set?
waity what??? why?
this game has more bugs than players

thats not a bug tho
then what is it
theres a limit to how many rovings you can do in a day, it refreshes daily
that's why you cant complete this event in 1 sitting
yeah and i haven't roved today


can also only rove once per open business day in the event
did you perhaps rove in the morning?
yeah why?
impossible
i wasn't awake on daily reset
Is this a good time for returning players and what is the banner
just check the returnee pin
Ok ty I didn’t know that was a thing
best time to return is 'never getting returnee'
2nd best time is right now
unless you have an extremely developed account that would take too long to rebuild
I can’t find the channel
its not a channel, its a pin
ig that's my case
In what channel
did you get max dorm lvl, a butt load of currently unobtainable dkeys, good crystal income, and are somewhat a whale?
this one
i have most DK
:\ that's a huge gap, honestly best advice would've been to restart but how are you doing rn in terms of p2 units
i have thelema, ely DK and coralie?
crystal count rn?
0 i used it all on those
cooked
in agony 2 rn
makes sense since you came back from hiatus
depends on your goals, if you are a casual player than it doesnt make any difference
the annoying part about restarting is that i will loose all the DK atk bonus
if you had any intention of retaining redlotus and being able to play competitively against other players, beyond cooked
can't i just pull the latest valk till i'm back at it again
ye but patches are 9 weeks now and you need the valk + weapon
so give or take, at least 4-6 patches (36-54 weeks which is half a year to a year) to remake that progress due to lack of crystals
within those patches, beginners would have access to multiple dkeys, 2 units back to back in each patch, and already doing well in a3, dipping into rl or retaining depending on weathers
i mean new account would have the same issue no?
no because beginner rewards are better than they have ever been, they would've rolled ps/fws this patch, new unit next patch and still be likely to roll the patch after, if not, then really close to having enough crystals in savings
basically my only trully built p2 valk rn
s1 
Ascension supply 
the other issue with thel is that she is outdated, today is an exception, but she rarely every gets her weather to come by (and even today its hohe's weather, thel just dps for her outside of so)
or stamps
Stamps where
wait no, she never had them
yeah i pulled here
from ascension supply ram 
but why
whats good to get on valkrie option egg: S
i wanted her
thats super lucky then if you got her that way
its just adv with a different name
what DKs new players get?
same rates for valk
anything coop (realms of battle), both judahs, pinions, abyss and anything in reserve shop
i have af, judah xy sword, ely dk, twins of eden, utu, 7t and fdown
what we had in co-op they get now in realms of battle (the 5 dkeys)
sakura and judah (from foundry and exchange)
utu, toe, abyss flower and fhd from bp (one of them every 2 patches since 10 crystallum and assuming f2p you only make 5 crystallum per patch)
help im in a sort of soft lock rn i cant progress or i dont know how to
OK, so after reading that it tells me to probably make a new account, but should I the only good thing I have on my account is hohe with all of her stigmas and her weapon
and there will be more dkeys coming into the bp likely
Where exactly maybe we can help 
Pretty nice run. Could been faster. I think su2 better rn because of the 15 cost buff
still would take months to catch up again
depends on your goals as a player, if you dont care about the competitive aspect, then dont do something that you will hate
Su 2 and kebean 1
i also have maxed domr
the game is telling me to click attack then when i click it somone will appear and said ai chan had a gift for you and tell you to go to home screen after that i just dont know what to do
same case for both accounts, 1 just has it easier from beginner rewards
hm, okay
honestly doesn't seem worth it, seeing i'd lose all my skins n shit
fair enough
if you go Su 2, use the weather buff with rime/bleed etc.
if you want the enhancements
Thats what i just said
Xd
also i'm like 90% sure i can Rl jump at the very least
then if you plan to play competitively, prioritise newer units, thankfully despite hohe being a terrible unit so far she will be the best thing you own to help with the next ring coming out soon (since she has the hidden tag for the next ring)
didnt see that message earlier sry
Never seen that tbf maybe they are talking about your mail or the starter manual
whelwinator
The bonuses tab is also an option
Wtf
yeah i don't thinnk i need the best of the best for slacc lotus anyways

you'd be surprised at rl nowadays
im already claimed my mail
BiS everywhere
doesn't matter if people are still trash
still there its basically a lop rn and i cant progress
this isnt p1 anymore
players can actually afford the right units and teams

prob bc hard to retain nirv these days
skill is another thing
what is gecko doing here
Ppl demoting everywhere
Hey. RL disturbance is ~500 now. So ull might be shocked
what is water doing here
people perform bad in RL despite having ranks
Do you mind sending a screenshot I'm not really familiar with that message from ai chan
i can stream it
Omg strimer
D can go to 9999999 but the skill won't
although im using a phone rn
people perform bad in nirv despite having ranks 

ego surfing
naturally
Same
i mean what have they to lose if it retains?
Idk who to use in ER
20 crystals
eh
Helia always
Can't hop onto stream rn sry my Internet is too bad 
360 crystals a patch
she kills aponia in 4s
whale mentality if you think this is little (just kidding)
Tired of spamming helia
hh
Helia spam faster than any other spam
the last nirvana round i ever did was 477D
its not, but yknow the mald that this number involves
ye current rl is at almost 500
@quick birch
lol lower than rl d
nirv is at 530-540 range rn 
Old nirvana D is current a3 D
Hmm how does your bridge look like I'd imagine that there is some kind of indicator what they want from you
a2 is old RL for me
its just pointing on attack
im completly lost right here
Yeah maybe that'll help
maybe it bugged out
btw
let me try
does part 2 story give many xtals?
Compared to how long it is no
sadge
i mean i can still do ER ig
still a bit #👶beginner-help message
wow p2 xtals kinda dry
Is the monthly and battle pass enough to have a good foundation for my new account or it isnt enough
tiktok doesnt pull weapons
Hard for ppl who can’t read
hi
they arent even necessary to have a good account, but if you are curious about cost effective whaling, check the pin on it
im still here, stop insulting me

wowowowoww a 10 pull
Bodhi buff
ikr
^ @hollow brook
no no, they had full gear new valks, they're just trash

Hekate sombre time
I didn’t know hi3 existed on tiktok
i dint know gecko knew what tiktok is

yeah the most toxic players are there
i thought she only knew facebook
id like to do some research actually, not just to laugh at them
ew
ogke so it is bugged i think i shouldnt have claimed my mail frame one after going back to this game
how dare u
i'm sure i'll go back to rn in 3/4 patches
oldge
Thank you, the knight bp and monthly pass especially is useful, i’ll get them both to hasten my progress
glb*
thats unfortunate, maybe #🔌technical-help got any more tips to help you

if you do end up getting them, do prioritise getting the unfarmable dkeys from the bp as a priority and not units (since they are usually outdated with near 0 use), also on a beginner account, you might prefer to get level rush instead since it has the best value out of any hi3 bundles
Will take 3 patches of rl-a3 bouncing for sure but yeah
them vs reddit, how comparable is it?
tiktok has more kids
3 patches is half a year now though
surely tiktok is more toxic
discord
Reddit is just clueless
so real
dw, i trust NA's skill issue

Its ER time
are u insinuating im toxic???:?
What is the banner?Right now
Peregrine Sword
there are multiple banners right now, check #💁gameplay-help pins to see the schedule
if you are asking about the debut banner, then right now it is peregrine sword sushang
no it is fine now dont worry about it
is grass green
thanks for the help guys
ily
oh so the restart helped?
Noted, is the level rush thing the one that costs 880 chips?
No. Theres yellow grass. Brown grass. Burnt grass. Dead grass
Red grass. Fake grass
pins says i can retain rl with any p2 S rank, when has pins lied to us
yes, its in your beginner manual
should be

yeah it fixed the soft lock it still asked me to go head to my hanger or baseor homescreen but after that i hit attack and its fine now
i just noticed
phew glad that worked
now that i'm a 2y returnee... I'M OFFICIALLY A 1000 DAYS NEWWBIE
LET'S GOOOOOO THE MEME BECAME REALITY
where do i check when i created my acc AHHAHAHA
in your log in, its right under the amount of days you logged in, but I dont think newer accounts can check that