#👶beginner-help

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hm yeah maybe don't bother then. This abyss is way too uphill overall

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just to make sure you triggered stellar drain every outburst cycle right?

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hohe non outburst damage isn't good for WoD and nothing else on the team is notable for that either (and they're all fire too)

sweet flax
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you can defo get more SeeleBox (unless your hohe is also unranked)

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S0

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ye cooked

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i was gonna mention that next

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hohe is expected to be ss by now so that makes it even more uphill

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and again scores are as high as 800-900 for this one

tall flax
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you know i'm talking about outburst cycles right? So everytime an outburst ends, and before the next one starts, at any point, you're doing the attack to restore a bunch of ARI?

sweet flax
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i'm not talking about cycles as in swapping in valks

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i pretty much just do WA and Ult during Stellar Drain for the supports and the full DPS cycle for Leader

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i cant think of a loa support that uses wa

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maybe sparkle?

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this is WoD though

quick birch
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PS for cd reset

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it's hohe dps with hofi and cora

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ah in stellar yeah then nvm

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are you confusing stellar drain with stellar outburst?

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i think so

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but you can't swap to supports with the WoD outburst

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Stellar Outburst Begin -> PS DPS Cycle -> QTE HoHE WA Ult -> QTE Badum WA Ult -> PS DPS cycle -> Stellar Outburst End

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oh we're talking about LoA now? I thought we were talking about WoD

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I dont have any WoD supports

tall flax
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but your WoD outburst will be more lacking because

tall flax
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I should make this clear, I do have P2 HoFi Gear, I do not have the Valkyrie Herself.

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the main purpose of a WoD support (shadow star) is to give more rondo effect time during an outburst, which is triggered whenever you tap a support (can see above your hp bar)

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what the hell lol

naive pivot
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so why is this a hohe boss instead of thelema SenadinaStare

outer spruce
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ron has hofi everything without hofi

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ok i didn't look closely at your earlier screenshot. i didn't realize that was still loa

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maybe you can try p1 hohe instead depending on what you have but i'm not expecting much

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HoFi gear no Valk

tall flax
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# tall flax Stellar Outburst Begin -> PS DPS Cycle -> QTE HoHE WA Ult -> QTE Badum WA Ult ->...

anyway i'm really not sure whether i would go with badum or ps leader here. Try both i guess.

You may opt to try to cycle hohe in more to do some damage.

When using outburst don't start with your dps unless you expect to kill soon. Try using the stellar shifts (purple super qte) starting with your supports first. This is because you want to free them from stellar shifts first so you can go back to regularly QTE'ing them

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and in an LoA team, regular QTEs can give you a heavenly link effect every 16s

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the big thing about them is that they deal adaptive damage from the leader, and also restores 15 ARI so you can outburst sooner again

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so you kinda want to make sure you are getting these when you can

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the thing about JK is she lacks sp

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hos old signature can work too

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but also if you're lacking gear for the p1 team then maybe don't bother

sweet flax
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She had enough with nebs but if no extra sp on first rot its a bit hellish (at least from my experience)

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i really don't expect it to come remotely close if it's not already well built

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i can buy it from the exchange ship, thankfully
JK: 2/4 TB
HoHE P1: 4/4
Kira: 4/4

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P1 as in her older gear right

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yea

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because solon and newer gear dont' work well with that team

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hmm

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well don't do it yet

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but that's prob your most potent option

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evaluate the competition tomorrow to decide if you should spend the resource

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also make sure you have nothing better to spend those blue resonances on

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if you don't already have judah i wouldn't mind losing this abyss and picking that up from exchange shop

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Would it suffice if I did a run with the same gear to get a rough idea of the score?

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yeah please

tall flax
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i already have Judah fortunately

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maybe scale down for ranks too

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Ye sure

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but idk how you would do that

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honestly if this doesn't score within 100 points i'm not expecting a retain loosely speaking because hohe and thele are popular and the fight is very simple

sweet flax
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I could remove kira's gear and run 3pc jk stigs?

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heck maybe even 50 points but idk

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idk tbh

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Well I'll try different things and give the average score KareninaGoodJob

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I'll also mention the highest and lowest and what gears I used

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don't over exert yourself lol

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i think it'll be good enough to just post a recording of the run with similar gear and they can try to extrapolate from there

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maybe swap something out for turg instead of signature

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ye sure

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I dont have ely elf so its gonna be beyond saving tericopiumhic

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kiana elf might give a good enough idea anyway

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sure

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anyway ron in the future with how unbalanced your account is, please take extra care to double check and be clear of the info you're giving us

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be extra clear if there's anything incomplete because you know the norm is to get both valk and weapon otherwise

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will note that

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but also again try not to skip PS gear. I would even consider as far as catching up on it in a rerun if it's soon assuming you cannot afford the next valk anyway

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we kinda have witnessed how awkward it becomes when you have incomplete valks

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granted i don't think a geared PS would've saved you in this scenario either

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but there will be situations where it's more meaningful

sweet flax
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run is beyond saving, scores less than his cope hohe p2 team

hohe ss 4/4
jk ss 3/4 + nebs
kira eop turg tb mei m

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i don't normally recommend catching up on a rerun tbh but if you're going to take breaks and invest in sporadic points, it's prob better to have complete stuff in your roster at least

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yeah i really didn't expect much. ty for checking

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i'm surprised it's worse tbh

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tbh I could probs try to get a better run, but I think it would've been at most 530-540 range
so not meaningful for ron

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yeah

tall flax
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almost 500D is brutal for RL

sweet flax
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it went down

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it was over 500 in 8.1

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and tbh, if most player's cases are similar to yours, the dist will only go down more

quick birch
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even more dist decrease SakuraWTF

sweet flax
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Old players quitting and new players joining is definitely helping with the D decrease

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oml, the top 3 are using SS2 HoHE with Vita and Thelema

naive pivot
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yeah why aren't you SenadinaStare

tall flax
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Hellmaru heals 💀

naive pivot
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529 HimekoLMAO

tall flax
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tfw i did better on Luna

deft orbit
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i love advance supply 💀

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honkai just make the BIGGEST EVENT EVER

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and sorry honkai, but this new event of cook is not funny

sweet elbow
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i got elys bow thank you to the guy who told me i could save pity on weapon banner

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building pity is insane

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i assume reset?

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idk where my main account went

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is there a way to reset it or i just make a new one

primal heron
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new one

remote oasis
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who do yall recommend pulling or saving for

naive pivot
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we don't normally permit other people posting their invite code here unless a beginner has asked for one and if the person sharing the code has been helping in the channel

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anyway @gritty flame i'm going to delete your message to make it fair for others. Sorry.

lavish jewel
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the more actual bosses you'll find in the server are the mods with the dark green names lol

primal heron
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otherwise in short i'm here because i'm recognized for being helpful so you generally can trust my word (albeit some professors are out of tune of the game by now or may be helpers for other channels rather than here)

and part of my role is to try to encourage/remind people about the rules

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although if you ever find an issue with my behavior or actions, feel free to report me to the modmail (the actual bosses) lol

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Wow

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Big boss

lavish jewel
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wording it that way sounds problematic lol

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we're all human here, even though people tend to think i'm an a.i. bot because i give lengthy in depth responses

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wait...

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Exactly what a bot might say.. hmmm..

Anyway sai, im trying to cook RS FWS Coralie

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So far its 564 lol

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anyway i'm sure you're just joking but more seriously this is a big and also official server. Of course there will be mods and rules to make sure things don't go out of hand

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Is a score of 638 enough to retain?

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but yeah if you don't have p2 ely or thele then i really don't have good prospects

slim blaze
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i already told you earlier the more proper scores will be high 800 or low 900

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Oh wait. Is this a3

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this is RL

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for Ron

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bracket with 10 slackers

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Luna team works so much better than PS team for the boss in my experience

slim blaze
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Right luna user

tall flax
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By a 100+ point difference

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hold on you can't just blindly say that lol

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there were some caveats to your scoring

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what did i say earlier about being more clear

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people are going to assume your PS has her signature weapon

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PS is actually having advantage on the PSY mobs

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yeah and Ron's PS is using brick

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as goofy as my brackets get, it's looking like a no

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Dafuq

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Like I3 Brick?

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Lmao

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what is that

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senti brick

slim blaze
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Incrediby infinite intimidagor?

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oh ok

slim blaze
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Idk something like that

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i've never seen it shortened that way lmao

glad ice
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i3

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yeah my mind thought you were talking about some processor lmao

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Nvidia

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or pc part

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whatever it may be

outer spruce
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core i3 brick

slim blaze
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brick better or oblivion down?

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I’m like 18 pulls away from pity for weapon, and I’m struggling to scrap random gems together 🙃

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Like literally rn

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also what

slim blaze
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F2P doesn’t have a credit card

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there's more i can say but for anyone unfamiliar, don't read into Ron's numbers. Let's move on lol

tall flax
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So if I get her weapon, is the comparison valid?

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probably not if you're not rotating properly

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well rotating is the wrong term

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your fight sequence needs to be optimized

slim blaze
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but also there's no real point to this comparison. Both teams in their current state will probably fail to retain

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loosely speaking you can look at a standard reference score and go roughly 200 points from it for a retain range. Actually in the case of this abyss when the fight is straightforward and all the teams for it are popular, i would even go as far as 100 or 50 points within the reference

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Having HoFI valk would be nice and use the RoO tag for HoHE.
Who knows when she’s gonna be given out for free like HoO HoS and HoHE

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so anyway if you're not scoring high 700 then i feel you're in trouble. But maybe i'm wrong since i haven't really been in RL lately or brackets can be imbalanced

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hard to imagine when hofi was available in a spending event already

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i guess come to think of it horb was too but people are coping for a free horb next

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obviously it's too early to say anything for certain though

slim blaze
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i'm not sure tbh

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i heard ss1 was big but i think it's extra CA damage? which are definitely big parts of her kit but her ult and weap are big too

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please double check

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would you all recommend me to get key of ego if i cant get flawless benediction? I really like HoHe and may use her as a filler unit in memorial arena

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where do these thingies come from

tall flax
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Battle Pass

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how many?

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only 1?

oak estuary
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hmm ok

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thanks

tall flax
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You get way more if you buy the battle pass

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But I don’t know the exact amount I would have to count it

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18 and 24

ancient needle
patent lion
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A lot of her DMG comes from her ult, and it'll take a while to get there in MA

ancient needle
patent lion
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Ideally you should be getting limited dkeys from there

ancient needle
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You get dkeys for the passive acc-wide +10 ATK for each one

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so thats why this account has seven thunders even without having HoT

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Yes, 10 ATK by itself is not much, but if you get like 7 of them that alr is very significant

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jizo mitoma (something like that)

ancient needle
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Mitama
Free ones are mostly for Gene Limits

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But they do give ATK as well

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Only get 3/4 gene limit from RoB DKeys I believe

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do yall know how to unlock the log in thing

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i thought you cld get like hov

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im lvl 25 alr

quick birch
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You do it's in the starter manual

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Hmm weird and it isn't unlocked ?

remote oasis
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yah i dont see a starter manual

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Is it not at the bottom of the screen?

remote oasis
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Odd

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cld it because this acount was made a while ago but like i instantly quit bfr the quest even came up tho

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like bfr the frist cutscene or anything

quick birch
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Yeah if the account was made a whole ago you probably missed it

remote oasis
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bro thats so annoying

quick birch
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Tbh best to just make a new one starter manual rewards are good

remote oasis
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aight thnaks

lyric anvil
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Just learned of when you get it also-

quick birch
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If you are using a Gmail email you can create a new acc with salting

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If you don't know what salting is check out this FAQ it's explained here

remote oasis
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thankss

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++

west valley
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Any beginner guide ?

hollow brook
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hi guys, so i’ve been planning to go back to hi3 but i’m wondering whether i should keep using my old account which i used between 3.x - 5.x or make a new account, my problem with my old account is that the valkyries are probably and most likely outdated which i wouldn’t be able to use properly for some contents of the game
thoughts would be appreciated

quick birch
hollow brook
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Tganks

quick birch
# west valley Tganks

Otherwise if you have any question just ask them and check pins there are a lot of common questions there

hollow brook
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give me a few hours or so i just started downloading the resources lol

quick birch
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Yeah np take your time FuHuaApprove

tight raven
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hello Is the current banner good ? Im new to the game

ancient needle
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Yes
Signature weapons are mandatory here in general

tight raven
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I see

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Should I bother doing the abyss if I dont have thelama?

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https://imgur.com/a/48ikVAr
worth keeping? Or do i restart
i stopped playing around 5.x but came back for like a day to pull for herr rebirth lol

quick birch
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This guy's the lowest one 21774 I only have s0 hohe BronyaRip_nopies

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I cannot beat the second stage of this abyss, help 😭

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but otherwise the other main gimmick in this stage is that enemies will have shields that reduces your damage greatly unless you apply enough rime trauma. HoHE isn't really good at it. Do you have thelema? You may need to move away from LoA to fit her in.

Another thing you can try is to leave the team as is, but drop one member for reverist calico. However I do not know if this is truly worth it for a situational shield removal.

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you can also HoHe ult -> SO for some extra rime trauma in exchange for dmg but since these are multiple waves you wont be able to do this on every enemy, but at least doing it on the last one is worth it imo

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also iirc you have fws ? im not quite sure on how big the dmg loss would be but at least buff wise she's better than jds from what i remember

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quick birch
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# rotund pasture She‘s not, tried a few times

from what i remeber from wyvereins dmg comparsion fws hohe had ~7% more dps than songque Hohe. Irrc your songque is also weaponless so i'd imagen that badum should still be better despite the weather debuffs RozaThink what exactly are you doing on badum when she's a support ?

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Usually wp skill and ult

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yeah you'd want to do her CA instead of her WA

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Ohhk

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and fws dps should be pretty bricked this cycle yeah NuwaXD

patent lion
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lantern is quite lacking for an hohe dps team. Please don't blindly follow what other random people are doing

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Cooking

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hohe wants thelema. While there is an ascension supply for thelema right now, these banners are similar to adv banners where they are for whales to gain ranks in, and not reliable to get the valk early from. Expect to need to sink 100 rolls to get the valk. Check [all supplies explained] in pins for more details about adv banners

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and at this point while thelema is notable for hohe, overall she's too old and niche to be worth pulling

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keep in mind your crystals are limited and it's arguably better to focus on newer releases that are more relevant and have more coverage along with better longevity

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!faq pull

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can check this out (also in the pins) for what to consider pulling

sweet flax
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oh that's messed up lol

sweet flax
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ye hohe lds lp HimekoLMAO

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yeah don't trust ingame recommendations either. they are usually wrong like right now or outdated

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CLASSIC

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Wait. Sai since the mobs are psy. SW one last flight?

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Xd

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(in other words, don't do it. It's not good)

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Oh right i forgot about the SW box

sweet flax
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the temptation to find quick solutions rather than long term investments is very strong in beginners

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eh i think it's more that they just don't know yet

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Any tips for hellmaru? I used sus badum hohe there too and only got 651, need at least 751 to sustain RL

sweet flax
quick birch
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Hohe DPS cycles can be quite demanding

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Both HoHe and thele are fairly popular so don't expect to be able to compete with them

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Especially when everyone and their grandma can get HoHe to SS+

sweet flax
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actually.... they could if they tried really hard

quick birch
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Rank and dkey diff prob makes a notable difference tbf

sweet flax
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I lack dkeys, so its mainly just ranks

quick birch
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Ainoway dkey less whel

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but since hohe ranks arent as relevant on supp, and fws is s0
if they have teri it could be doable

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Guess what

sweet flax
quick birch
quick birch
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ye cooked

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wait imma try a ds run

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take the L bro

gloomy acorn
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no

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I need rating on my run. Do i just lack hohe ranks or smth

sweet flax
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either way I dont think I should be the one trying vita dps (s2 vita and really good atk KEKW)

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I can try vita but it's sea temp

sweet flax
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Mh.m

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Ss0 hohe
S0 everything else

sweet flax
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s0 hohe SADKek

gloomy acorn
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What score are you expecting

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859

slim blaze
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Could be dmg gapped

slim blaze
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Maybe

gloomy acorn
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Could also be rng, who knows aKianaDumb

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Try to be as far away from the fire pillar when hell spawns

slim blaze
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Any reason?

gloomy acorn
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Some attacks target it

slim blaze
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Targetting BS?

gloomy acorn
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It's mainly the ba and not the manta ray but every little bit counts TeriJuice

sweet flax
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probs could be improved but im too lazy

gloomy acorn
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Seems about right

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Oh nvm just running thel dps is higher aKianaDumb

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826 but kek'd some part so 830-840+

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I don’t have new Sushang,which alternatives I should use to beat Lantern in MA?
My account is pretty much P2 related (No teri)

gloomy acorn
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You can cut the ari stall at the start by evading the fireball twice

slim blaze
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You can wa on hhe twice after ult ends, wa charge should reset by the time you go back to her after thel

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If still not enough dmg you can just sena ult to kill instead of ba on hhe

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Short hold wa slightly faster (time ticks more slowly) than tap wa

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I believe thel also had more dmging combo involving hold A but idr what it was

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Can oso try ult before moi on the end so you get refreshed ult buff on moi hit, not sure if that is more dmg or any faster but can try

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If you cba to eva bald the start and have teri op that sacs some dmg to allow you to skip the evas aKianaDumb

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Well. S sera more ari hmmm

gloomy acorn
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Worse score but allows you to reset less which may be better since 2h left

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Oh you have sera

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Filthy whel TeriJuice

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Im just doing this to practice phone gaming again

gloomy acorn
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Ah just malding for the love of the game

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Hhe also has no advantage for scoring headshots

slim blaze
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No need to aim for it hyacine_ride_ica

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Wait let me check new dkey

slim blaze
glad ice
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evade + jump

gloomy acorn
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One dodge one jump

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Ah

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My hand slow Haha

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Great now i need to use my index finger

glad ice
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yeah its hard to do on phone

slim blaze
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I used to be avle to do.it

quasi coyote
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Where can i farm gold quickly guys

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I need to upgrade my sushang skill and stig

thick bolt
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you can look to rushing events for the gold purchase or afk'ing the gold expedition

otherwise gold has been one of those gradual accumulation currencies, no "fast" way to get it

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You can look to salvaging dupe blue rarity weapons if you haven't already

slim blaze
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very bad idea: metals, farming sp ranks, ae imag for honkai shards, ncc's
and the 100 asterite to 14k gold conversion yeah scam

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Oh cool

glad ice
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u can pay attention to open world tasks. some tasks have more coin reward than others at the same tier/main reward

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for example a SSS+ task with main reward AE imaginon can vary from 17k to 36k coin

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salvaging the worst exp chip is also worth mentioning. but i do not recommend for a new acc

frozen crypt
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I always found it weird how the lowest stam cost ones (36) have the most coins (39k)

frozen crypt
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It doesn't really make sense that you spend less to get more tho ohno especially when EX tasks are like 41 stam?

glad ice
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u forgot the main reward

thick bolt
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I mean, even for same reward tasks the lower stam ones give higher coins lol
Like I see two 4 AE imag missions with one costing less stam but higher coins

glad ice
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the coin reward as i said can vary from 17k to 39k for a SSS+ task

mental valley
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Can songque clear the elysian realm y'all?

slim blaze
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  • 6 points just by dodging fireball twice lol
thick bolt
glad ice
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+4 ARI = -4s farming

thick bolt
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2 seconds
base ari regen is 2 per second

mental valley
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I have her stigmatas level 50 all, I don't own her weapon but I own the yellow weapon but it's also max

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How many minutes does it take for her to complete usually?

slim blaze
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But then i managed to whiff it by accidentally skipping sena qte gah

thick bolt
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full gear? about 5 minutes probably
with your situation I'd say 7-8?

Aim for x2.25, or x2.5 at max, finality is unnecessary

mental valley
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Well-

abstract sequoia
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is this with no-ring or ring build?

mental valley
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What does that mean

thick bolt
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why bodhi signets HoSHmm
she has slow attacks

mental valley
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I'm new 😭

mental valley
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basically, there's usually 2 playstyles for each valk that are dictated by their elysia signets

thick bolt
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check pins for the ER guide
W that you cleared corruption at least though

abstract sequoia
#

if you want more visual guidance, there's also sites like marisaimpact and arustats. marisaimpact especially tells you how to play based on the elysia signets you choose

mental valley
#

I js chose the one that resets and fills my astral bar

abstract sequoia
#

in that case you want only those that buff stellar outburst state

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or get you faster back into it

#

mobius signets are usually not needed in that case, if the elysia signet already gives you AR in some way

#

they still help a lot in songque's case though for damage

mental valley
#

Oh

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Because I deal no damage without the stellar burst

abstract sequoia
#

mobius' theme is around summoning stuff, that includes shadows and whatnot

mental valley
abstract sequoia
mental valley
#

There is also one elysian signet that if I use my skill something drops from the sky and it's kinda op but I can't it (not stellar burst btw)

abstract sequoia
#

thats one of the non-ring stuff

#

the full build would be Summonings > Ambush and optionially Premonition

mental valley
#

Should I pull for thelema or save for next banner

abstract sequoia
#

if you want that early on a full run, you can pick the thorn crown to get 2 elysia signets at the start

#

on lite runs, just pick "because of you" instead and use it on Floor 7

abstract sequoia
mental valley
#

No- I'm late

#

I did 20 pulls tho

quick birch
#

Well first of all what's your crystals count

mental valley
#

I can pull for 30 more

abstract sequoia
#

hm, i wouldn't unless you can guarantee her weapon too

mental valley
#

Okay so I'll save for the next banner including their wep

abstract sequoia
#

yea thats what you usually should do

#

weapon enables a lot to everyone's playstyle

#

Songque especially is very crippled without it, at least as a sole DPS

mental valley
#

I'll also probably cry with the amount of honkai cubes

abstract sequoia
#

you'll get used to it, the bigger problem later is Einstein Torus

#

for Pri-arm upgrades

#

honkai cubes farming will pick up once you get your adventure rank up in open world, because quests will give you more AE imaginon

#

on max level the norm is 3-4 per task

mental valley
#

Wow

#

I'm like on level 76 now

#

I kinda regretted levelling up so fast because I struggle in abyss

abstract sequoia
#

not related to your captain rank, i meant that

mental valley
#

OH

#

Id that the um yae sakura thing

hollow brook
abstract sequoia
#

its individual for each open world, so i'd focus on maxing one first

mental valley
#

I'm still continuing my post honkai thing

abstract sequoia
#

yeah post honkai 1 and 2 is what gives you the best loot

#

so good first choice

#

sakura samsara is kinda eh with that

glad ice
#

luckily songque in LoA can get a CA charge after qte. without signature weapon it would be a pain to farm for that charge

abstract sequoia
#

yea, that saves her a lot as a support. especially with FWS

mental valley
#

I actually got her in the um

#

Starter banner for 25 pulls

slim blaze
#

Shae sakura

#

Oh god starter banner. At least only 25 pulls

glad ice
#

yeah bad banner but good luck

brave crater
#

is it still impossible to play the hi3rd regions on ios?

dry python
#

The what

brave crater
#

the servers

#

the ios version was locked to a specific one from what I remember

abstract sequoia
#

and you can only get into that if you live there

#

as a foreigner, all you have is bilibili servers iirc

dim vale
#

Is there any consequence of if armada ran out of fame? I think many OG in my armada had gone...(Phone cant handle or burnout probably)

rough bramble
#

So I have the free HoH from a while back, should I get her dkey? Pity is in 27 and i have 28k xtals

thick bolt
thick bolt
rough bramble
#

thanks

dim vale
thick bolt
#

25 crystals for reaching a weekly contribution threshold as an armada

#

main thing is the sim battle reward, warehouse, commision rewards anyways
the crystal task is just a baseline for judging activity

dim vale
#

Lemme check iirc still full
Yea crystal's full, but not the sim

#

You see...im the leader now TeriRip

primal heron
#

ok i got the valk and wep,about the stigma should i gacha it or just farm it?
contect for acc
new acc,ontly used the sum of 20-ish pulls

abstract sequoia
#

just farm if you got the wep

primal heron
#

kk

thick bolt
#

Throwing another 10 pull in is a viable strat if you didn't use a lot of crystals on the other stuff

abstract sequoia
#

both is fine

primal heron
#

damn i dont have enuf mats for sub stigma

abstract sequoia
#

yeah thats normal

#

but you should be able to first clear mirage for free

#

without using attempts

#

unless you mean prisms, in that case you might actually want to follow Starfire's advice

#

can get some from event shops of course but yknow how slow the gain is

primal heron
slim blaze
#

Oh my

#

Slightly sweaty bracket

wheat pulsar
#

I just started playing and idk who I should pull for!

slim blaze
primal heron
#

!faq pull

wheat pulsar
#

I also got senadina and idk what to do w her weepheaven

primal heron
abstract sequoia
primal heron
#

i jump to my own msg ElysiaNotLikeThis

slim blaze
#

Ah shit

#

Stellar next weather with assaka?

abstract sequoia
#

yea

slim blaze
#

Guess ill die

wheat pulsar
slim blaze
#

No teriop in nirv

abstract sequoia
#

we can explain

rugged compass
#

Whos it for?

wheat pulsar
#

and I’m not good at English either

slim blaze
rugged compass
#

Whos it for? 😃

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
#

that's short ways of saying battlesuit names

#

in that case it's Peregrine Sword

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

or li sushang's newest battlesuit

slim blaze
#

We love acronyms

#

No one has the time to type peregrine falcon

wheat pulsar
rugged compass
slim blaze
#

Or whatever

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
primal heron
#

and u will see it

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

this is the small bit

primal heron
abstract sequoia
#

broo the flashbang

slim blaze
#

Gah light mode. Flashbang

wheat pulsar
#

SOMEONE JUST SAY THE IT

slim blaze
primal heron
#

chucklenuts

wheat pulsar
#

YES OR NO

wheat pulsar
primal heron
#

0.55

abstract sequoia
#

yes, but save enough to guarantee her valk and weapon

#

which is 16.8k crystals

primal heron
#

what?

abstract sequoia
#

only then pull

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

not my words

primal heron
#

only wep smh ram

wheat pulsar
#

I don’t think thats possible

primal heron
#

thats whnen u already have PS

#

so reroling

slim blaze
#

Ew reroll

primal heron
#

or just save for next patch imo

abstract sequoia
#

guys please

primal heron
#

fair enuf

slim blaze
#

Seriously tho?

autumn oxide
#

dont gotta worry bout shit with that

slim blaze
#

Honkek is patience

autumn oxide
#

berwi free promo?

abstract sequoia
#

there is no 50/50, so we can afford patience

slim blaze
#

Game punishes inconsistency

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

you get what you pull for

autumn oxide
#

slay

slim blaze
#

But assaka

autumn oxide
#

man, i was in dreams lobby and expected it to be fun as heck but he dint even mald

slim blaze
#

No teriop in nirv very scary

autumn oxide
#

bro dint even make t10 😔

autumn oxide
slim blaze
#

Maybe its time for me to roll

#

Oh wait its sera now

wheat pulsar
abstract sequoia
#

i wouldn't. she is pretty old now and those pulls are better used on newer valks that support more recent astral rings

#

how astral ring works is explained here pretty well

#

that's your account goal, making teams around that system

slim blaze
#

Starter banner skem btw

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

i mean its nice to luck out on starter banner on first pull

autumn oxide
#

fws vita sonk, send it with fish skips

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

just dont put more crystals into it

wheat pulsar
#

OKAY

autumn oxide
slim blaze
autumn oxide
#

smh

#

demot then

#

ok im watching valo byebye

abstract sequoia
slim blaze
#

Who to use in ER this time? Tired of spamming helia

abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
#

aw thank you

#

just trying my best

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

never enough good enough to help beginners

abstract sequoia
#

oh uh i assume no PS?

slim blaze
#

Mhmm

primal heron
#

just jump kiana

abstract sequoia
#

you have more options than you think

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

thelema is nice

#

if you want something on-weather just do HoHe

#

with prioritizing helix

#

pistols have badum and hofi with not a lot of effort involved

#

even no dk hofi

#

also senti

#

not brick senti tho unless you have that 4/4

wheat pulsar
#

where can u see sushangs weapon or

#

Like where can I pull for it if I do decide to try and get her

abstract sequoia
slim blaze
#

Bodhi...

abstract sequoia
#

bodhi go brrrr

abstract sequoia
slim blaze
#

Time for because of you

abstract sequoia
deft orbit
#

can someonee help me pass? i already reached card lvl 65

abstract sequoia
#

sure, i have a couple teams

deft orbit
#

can u list them

slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

healers would like to have damage reduction for that

deft orbit
autumn oxide
#

hi arky warky

deft orbit
#

hello

slim blaze
deft orbit
#

bottle

slim blaze
#

I just realized

#

I made my dirac into elysia

#

Cant use stfu sad

autumn oxide
#

forge dirac again duh

slim blaze
#

Yeah ill jusy use ely tb dirac M

abstract sequoia
# deft orbit ty

second team: SP regen en masse with 3 assassin and 3 support team. can switch bird with aponia and maybe the flute healer with quantum jellyfish, but having these 2 affixes is essential for this to work

abstract sequoia
#

still need all beans LanternHeavyThoughts

deft orbit
#

for?

abstract sequoia
#

more golden cookies on afk i guess

deft orbit
#

o

abstract sequoia
#

you get that instead of xp when you're maxed out

deft orbit
#

ic

abstract sequoia
slim blaze
abstract sequoia
#

1, you're melee

slim blaze
#

Doesnt shee throw the shurikena

abstract sequoia
#

she still slashes a ton

slim blaze
#

True ebough

#

So.
Su 1
Kebean 1
Eden 2?

abstract sequoia
#

her ult is burst mode after all

compact coyote
#

Hi guys who can i use elysia with now that i have her new bow?? I have fully geared thelema but not senadina

abstract sequoia
compact coyote
abstract sequoia
#

also HoHe as leader

compact coyote
#

Should i save for a different valk to replace teri in that team?

#

Or someone to make a teri sparkle team since i have geared sparkle

abstract sequoia
#

i wouldn't backpull anyone for those cases, just save for next patch assuming you don't have enough now for Peregrine Sword

compact coyote
abstract sequoia
#

yea, sparkle and ely

#

||its the unknown ring||

compact coyote
#

Thank u!!

abstract sequoia
#

np, anytime

thick bolt
#

sparkle doesn't have the unknown tag though

abstract sequoia
wheat pulsar
#

is it worth pulling on the drop supply banner?

thick bolt
#

Dorm?
Only with the free cards and even then you wanna have 20 saved over for spending events
never with crystals

abstract sequoia
compact coyote
abstract sequoia
#

yeah

#

or ||any law of ascension dps / new valk / sparkle||

compact coyote
#

Would u still recommend the new valk if i can only use her w ely and coralie tho

abstract sequoia
#

it's difficult to say

#

i mean do you have savings for PS?

#

or are you blank now

compact coyote
#

Noo i used all of my crystals for elysias bow TeriRip

abstract sequoia
#

yeah figured that much

#

time will tell i guess, i sadly cannot say right now

compact coyote
#

Ohh okay

abstract sequoia
#

just dont try to pull PS now, you will need her weapon to be good

#

and you dont have the xtals

compact coyote
#

Rip

mint pasture
#

i cant decide between choogins pj bunny or kiana from the free ELF box. for P2 teams, i have vita and the new sushang with their gears. For P1 teams i have senti team well built, with her gears and all
i dont have other chars with their weapons help

abstract sequoia
#

i mean your elf choice really depends on your main focus meta-wise

mint pasture
abstract sequoia
#

nah she's not

#

only SS MA at best

thick bolt
#

Just read the elf pin
in a vacuum assuming no elfs unlocked it's either unlocking kiaelf or just sitting on the box till you know you have a usecase

abstract sequoia
#

kiaelf is good for 2 elements, but needs 3* to be better than Dreamseeker in most teams. PB is similar, but can be good already with 2* IF you use 2+ Physical part 2 valks

#

you just have to live with the ARI deficit

mint pasture
#

ehh i think ill go with kiaelf then

#

thank you!

abstract sequoia
#

either are already good, kiaelf even has a general elemental buff which is already an upgrade over jingwei

#

for part 1 that is

thick bolt
#

switch cd reduction is nice

#

MA though

abstract sequoia
#

the gather too

#

not sure how strong with Kiaelf, but with PB it's near instant

thick bolt
#

kek, all I know is when I wanted to mald before 7.3 HoTT lack of elf gather was screwing me 2k points TeriRip
still have trauma

muted shoal
#

and procs twice

abstract sequoia
#

oh

sage trail
#

chat i finished the fun pulls

#

now what should i save for to revive my account

muted shoal
#

probably the next thing that releases, and repeat that a few more times HimekoLMAO

abstract sequoia
muted shoal
abstract sequoia
#

yea then next patch, cant go PS now with no savings

sage trail
muted shoal
#

they all are the best at what they do, they just don't run stuff for the older ones

sage trail
#

i got thelema and ely DK

abstract sequoia
#

Could build on that by pulling 8.3 valk tbh

#

or Badum if she turns out to be strong in every ring she offers

sage trail
abstract sequoia
#

||Helia Henshin||

sage trail
#

yeah

#

is it woorth to find the uglier ely set?

#

waity what??? why?

#

this game has more bugs than players

sweet flax
#

thats not a bug tho

sage trail
sweet flax
#

theres a limit to how many rovings you can do in a day, it refreshes daily

#

that's why you cant complete this event in 1 sitting

sage trail
sweet flax
thick bolt
#

can also only rove once per open business day in the event

sweet flax
#

did you perhaps rove in the morning?

sage trail
sweet flax
#

you probs did it as soon as daily reset happened

#

otherwise what starfire said

sage trail
#

i wasn't awake on daily reset

sweet flax
#

then bug it is

low ridge
#

Is this a good time for returning players and what is the banner

thick bolt
#

just check the returnee pin

low ridge
thick bolt
#

best time to return is 'never getting returnee'
2nd best time is right now

sweet flax
#

unless you have an extremely developed account that would take too long to rebuild

low ridge
sweet flax
low ridge
sweet flax
sweet flax
sweet flax
thick bolt
sage trail
#

my account is kinda old

#

i don't play ssince hare patch

sweet flax
#

:\ that's a huge gap, honestly best advice would've been to restart but how are you doing rn in terms of p2 units

sage trail
sweet flax
#

SeeleBox crystal count rn?

sage trail
#

0 i used it all on those

sweet flax
#

cooked

sage trail
#

in agony 2 rn

sweet flax
#

makes sense since you came back from hiatus

sage trail
#

will get to agony 3 soonish

#

idk if i'm cooked

sweet flax
#

depends on your goals, if you are a casual player than it doesnt make any difference

sage trail
#

the annoying part about restarting is that i will loose all the DK atk bonus

sweet flax
#

if you had any intention of retaining redlotus and being able to play competitively against other players, beyond cooked

sage trail
sweet flax
#

ye but patches are 9 weeks now and you need the valk + weapon
so give or take, at least 4-6 patches (36-54 weeks which is half a year to a year) to remake that progress due to lack of crystals

#

within those patches, beginners would have access to multiple dkeys, 2 units back to back in each patch, and already doing well in a3, dipping into rl or retaining depending on weathers

sage trail
#

i mean new account would have the same issue no?

sweet flax
#

no because beginner rewards are better than they have ever been, they would've rolled ps/fws this patch, new unit next patch and still be likely to roll the patch after, if not, then really close to having enough crystals in savings

sage trail
#

basically my only trully built p2 valk rn

abstract sequoia
#

s1 HUH

quick birch
#

Ascension supply LanternHeavyThoughts

sweet flax
#

the other issue with thel is that she is outdated, today is an exception, but she rarely every gets her weather to come by (and even today its hohe's weather, thel just dps for her outside of so)

abstract sequoia
quick birch
#

Stamps where

abstract sequoia
#

wait no, she never had them

sage trail
sweet flax
#

from ascension supply ram HimekoLMAO

abstract sequoia
magic vault
#

whats good to get on valkrie option egg: S

sage trail
abstract sequoia
#

thats super lucky then if you got her that way

sweet flax
#

ye, ascension supply is usually garuntee or nothing

#

way too big of a gamble

abstract sequoia
#

its just adv with a different name

sage trail
#

what DKs new players get?

abstract sequoia
#

same rates for valk

quick birch
#

@magic vault

abstract sequoia
sage trail
#

i have af, judah xy sword, ely dk, twins of eden, utu, 7t and fdown

sweet flax
# sage trail what DKs new players get?

what we had in co-op they get now in realms of battle (the 5 dkeys)
sakura and judah (from foundry and exchange)
utu, toe, abyss flower and fhd from bp (one of them every 2 patches since 10 crystallum and assuming f2p you only make 5 crystallum per patch)

magic vault
#

help im in a sort of soft lock rn i cant progress or i dont know how to

low ridge
#

OK, so after reading that it tells me to probably make a new account, but should I the only good thing I have on my account is hohe with all of her stigmas and her weapon

sweet flax
#

and there will be more dkeys coming into the bp likely

quick birch
slim blaze
#

Pretty nice run. Could been faster. I think su2 better rn because of the 15 cost buff

sage trail
sweet flax
sage trail
#

i also have maxed domr

magic vault
sweet flax
abstract sequoia
sweet flax
#

again, depends on your goals

#

you arent being forced to restart, its a recommendation

sage trail
#

honestly doesn't seem worth it, seeing i'd lose all my skins n shit

sweet flax
#

fair enough

abstract sequoia
#

if you go Su 2, use the weather buff with rime/bleed etc.

#

if you want the enhancements

slim blaze
#

Xd

sage trail
#

also i'm like 90% sure i can Rl jump at the very least

sweet flax
#

then if you plan to play competitively, prioritise newer units, thankfully despite hohe being a terrible unit so far she will be the best thing you own to help with the next ring coming out soon (since she has the hidden tag for the next ring)

abstract sequoia
quick birch
autumn oxide
#

whelwinator

quick birch
#

The bonuses tab is also an option

slim blaze
sage trail
sweet flax
#

you'd be surprised at rl nowadays

sweet flax
#

BiS everywhere

sage trail
magic vault
#

still there its basically a lop rn and i cant progress

sweet flax
#

this isnt p1 anymore HimekoLMAO players can actually afford the right units and teams

sage trail
sterile river
abstract sequoia
#

skill is another thing

autumn oxide
#

what is gecko doing here

sterile river
#

Ppl demoting everywhere

slim blaze
sterile river
abstract sequoia
#

people perform bad in RL despite having ranks

quick birch
slim blaze
#

Omg strimer

sage trail
magic vault
#

although im using a phone rn

sweet flax
sage trail
autumn oxide
sterile river
#

naturally

slim blaze
#

Same

abstract sequoia
slim blaze
#

Idk who to use in ER

sweet flax
#

20 crystals

abstract sequoia
#

eh

sterile river
quick birch
sweet flax
#

360 crystals a patch

sterile river
#

she kills aponia in 4s

sweet flax
#

whale mentality if you think this is little (just kidding)

slim blaze
magic vault
autumn oxide
#

hh

sterile river
#

Helia spam faster than any other spamhehe

sage trail
#

the last nirvana round i ever did was 477D

abstract sequoia
sweet flax
magic vault
autumn oxide
sweet flax
#

nirv is at 530-540 range rn HimekoLMAO

slim blaze
#

Old nirvana D is current a3 D

quick birch
sage trail
magic vault
#

im completly lost right here

abstract sequoia
#

um...

#

restart the game

quick birch
#

Yeah maybe that'll help

abstract sequoia
#

maybe it bugged out

sage trail
#

btw

magic vault
#

let me try

sage trail
#

does part 2 story give many xtals?

slim blaze
#

#1 IT solution

#

Restart

quick birch
sage trail
#

sadge

magic vault
#

what should I do in beginner chapter?

#

just clear it?

sage trail
#

i mean i can still do ER ig

abstract sequoia
sage trail
#

i got told on tiktok ER is now really hard (it's not)

sterile river
#

wow p2 xtals kinda dry

hollow brook
#

Is the monthly and battle pass enough to have a good foundation for my new account or it isnt enough

abstract sequoia
sterile river
sweet flax
autumn oxide
#

im still here, stop insulting me

slim blaze
#

Wait omg

#

Twilight paladin ER

sterile river
slim blaze
#

Bodhi buff

abstract sequoia
#

ikr

sweet flax
#

^ @hollow brook

sage trail
abstract sequoia
#

oh god

#

link?

slim blaze
#

Hekate sombre time

sterile river
#

I didn’t know hi3 existed on tiktok

autumn oxide
#

i dint know gecko knew what tiktok is

sterile river
sage trail
autumn oxide
#

i thought she only knew facebook

abstract sequoia
sterile river
#

ew

magic vault
#

ogke so it is bugged i think i shouldnt have claimed my mail frame one after going back to this game

sterile river
#

how dare u

sage trail
#

i'm sure i'll go back to rn in 3/4 patches

autumn oxide
sage trail
#

i trust in NA's skill issue

hollow brook
autumn oxide
sage trail
#

if i could CH dps promo in p1

#

i can retain with cope p2 teams

abstract sequoia
sage trail
sweet flax
grim basin
abstract sequoia
sage trail
grim basin
#

3 patches is half a year now though

sterile river
#

surely tiktok is more toxicSenadinaStare

autumn oxide
#

discord

sterile river
#

Reddit is just clueless

sterile river
sage trail
slim blaze
#

Its ER time

autumn oxide
low ridge
#

What is the banner?Right now

abstract sequoia
#

Peregrine Sword

sweet flax
magic vault
sterile river
magic vault
#

thanks for the help guys

autumn oxide
abstract sequoia
hollow brook
slim blaze
#

Red grass. Fake grass

sage trail
#

pins says i can retain rl with any p2 S rank, when has pins lied to us

sweet flax
abstract sequoia
#

should be

sterile river
magic vault
sage trail
#

i just noticed

abstract sequoia
#

phew glad that worked

sage trail
#

now that i'm a 2y returnee... I'M OFFICIALLY A 1000 DAYS NEWWBIE

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LET'S GOOOOOO THE MEME BECAME REALITY

slim blaze
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Ok lets get you back to bed old man

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Time for your nap

magic vault
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where do i check when i created my acc AHHAHAHA

sweet flax
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in your log in, its right under the amount of days you logged in, but I dont think newer accounts can check that