👶beginner-help

[spiral badge]

hohe does have a stellar key rerunning soon but it's questionable to pursue at this point

on one hand it's relatively lower cost to get a heavenly shift valk (60 pulls instead of 145 at worst)

[fallen shale]

but yea ig RC and SI are up for the cope team

[spiral badge]

but hohe is quite underwhelming esp if you cannot support her well with breach supports and thelema

[fallen shale]

I just realised I forgot I stole all of griseo's gear to give to sushang

so she kinda went into that fight naked

oops

[spiral badge]

you can also consider CE as well

SI may not be best if you cannot ult with her every cycle. CE at least can have some supporting effect with her full meter WA

[fallen shale]

haven't got her yet

[spiral badge]

ah nvm then

[fallen shale]

she's on my radar though

not for any meta reason just cause she has a lightsaber, lol

I could get CE soon if I wanted though

I currently have enough asterite to get 39 of her fragments

[spiral badge]

just make sure not to compromise on coralie progress down the line

[fallen shale]

I've gotten decently lucky getting two coralies from gacha

so I'm now 36/50 to the next evolution

in fact I can straight up evolve her rn if I spent the asterite

[spiral badge]

doesn't really change the priority. The objective is to max her asap since she's the most widely useful f2p support currently

[fallen shale]

I'm guessing doing that would be more valuable to do than getting CE?

[spiral badge]

i would say so esp when you're not using CE to any actual significance currently

[fallen shale]

right

[spiral badge]

and keep in mind fragments are gated weekly

[fallen shale]

Coralie's gonna be a somewhat long term thing until I get Sushang some real friends I assume

alr I'll go ahead and evolve her now then

[spiral badge]

when i say significance i mean tangible rewards. As an example

• i'm not going to care if an improvement doesn't change your standings like making you score higher when you're already in first place. It also doesn't matter if it does change your standings but doesn't give you more important rewards
• it's significant if it can lead to more limited time crystals like a change in your abyss rank standings

sounds good

[fallen shale]

but yeah now that you mention it I should go and try sushang on q manifold

I'm already on promotion for the cycle so it won't necessarily do anything but it'll be fun and give me something of a benchmark

[spiral badge]

yeah

[fallen shale]

ok so she's already doing a full minute better than my old coralie team

imagine when she has some actual gear

I like that Sushang's outburst has a mashing part in it

[sweet flax]

Oh you finally managed to get ps?

[fallen shale]

the mashing part is what I liked about Coralie's ult, so now I'm not upset that I'm not supposed to be doing Coralie's ult lol

[fallen shale]

heck yea

I'm officially gaming now

[sweet flax]

Huge

(You didn't forget about rolling weapon though right?)

[fallen shale]

no ofc not

[sweet flax]

Just making sure :p

[fallen shale]

in fact I did singles on the last ten to make sure I didn't waste rolls

let's pretend that's why and not cause I was getting very impatient

twas an early at 81 pity so very good that I did that, actually

that's now 9 pulls I get to spend on her weapon instead!

[sweet flax]

Deets can go to #📿gacha-salt🧂

Anyways congrats, good luck with weapon banner

[fallen shale]

thanks

should be a lot easier now that I have an actual unit to do content with

actually speaking of that, where do I get her sig stigmatas?

[sweet flax]

from the weapon banner

every 10 pulls is a garunteed 4* piece of her equipment (either weapon, or one of her 3 stigmatas)

[fallen shale]

oh damn

it's really that simple?

[sweet flax]

so if you get 2 of her stigs from equipment banner, you can use the box from log in rewards to get the 3rd

any dupes can be salvaged for source prisms

[fallen shale]

also I'm sitting here doing the astral ring rotation tutorial like I'm pretty sure I can't do any of this until I pull a second unit

[sweet flax]

ye, loa ring is dependant on the other units having the "heavenly shift tag"

[fallen shale]

and no free units have it, right?

[sweet flax]

no, technically hohe with her dkey, but she isnt free anymore and you had to pull on dkey banner

[fallen shale]

I have hohe

[sweet flax]

better to save anyways, ||we are moving on to the next ring next patch||

[rotund roost]

Best team for this?

[sweet flax]

and we dont know her supportive capabilities for a future ring, so I cant advise you to pull for it

[sweet flax]

does sushang have her weapon?

[rotund roost]

yes

[fallen shale]

well I expected that I'd have to wait around for a good teammate to show up

[sweet flax]

sushang vita sparkle should be best iirc

[fallen shale]

so effectively after getting her weapon I'll start saving for ~mystery unit~

[rotund roost]

I have no sparkle 😔

[sweet flax]

oh im blind

use jds or fws then (instead of sparkle)

[fallen shale]

her sig stigmatas will be the ones that have her on the design right?

[sweet flax]

yep

[fallen shale]

is a prism direct level-up coupon ok to use

[sweet flax]

yep, it saves you source prisms and level up materials, I would use them on the stigmata that have the most impact in the case that you cant level them up

[fallen shale]

well I have one sig right now (M)

and don't currently have the mats for it

[amber finch]

heres a ref https://youtu.be/FUxmV1ADDAM?si=QWUW_rt7CnvO3m90

note that his atk is really high so you might need to tweak your rotation abit

[sweet flax]

😭

[amber finch]

fookin whel

[amber finch]

i wouldnt use the level up coupon on the m stig

it doesnt have atk like t and b

also you only have one stig so you shouldnt even level anything up

[fallen shale]

why?

[amber finch]

finish pulling for weap and see if you get stigs + dupes for prisms then level them

[fallen shale]

ah well

shit >.>

[sweet flax]

also this is mald territory, but you can compare dupe stigs to see if one has better base affixes

[amber finch]

lesser mald territory is seeing which dupe stig has an affix slot or two affix slots and keeping them

so you dont have to waste nccs+that thingy to unlock the slots

[sweet flax]

id gladly waste it if it means I get high atk affix on the first slot

[amber finch]

[fallen shale]

well I got her to do sub 1 minute on the agony boss

[sweet flax]

its still q-manifold, as long as its on time its fine

it matters more when you reach superstring dimension (post breakthrough) where the actual clear time matters

[fallen shale]

yea I know I'm just making sure she's doing better than coralie lol

who did like 2:30 or something

am I supposed to ult with PS as soon as she swaps in?

it seems like it does more damage the sooner I do it upon swapping in

[drifting parrot]

I can't get 800 even with teri aop

[haughty elbow]

vita songque is best

[amber finch]

just use vita song like me smh

i can get higher but laziness got the better of me

[drifting parrot]

My vita weaponless smh

[haughty elbow]

so why are u using vita

[amber finch]

erm what the balls

[slim blaze]

Oh its flux weather

Who can i use? Was thinking rs jds fws. No ps

[drifting parrot]

Because i don't have any other choices

[drifting parrot]

Goodluck with hitcount

[slim blaze]

Oh right hitcount

Fws vita rs?

[drifting parrot]

Fire res

[sweet flax]

boss is fire resistant

[slim blaze]

Fpk

Rs vita jds idk anymore

[amber finch]

can 740+ if you have teri in rl ofc

[slim blaze]

I have sera op if it helps

[amber finch]

err -40 ig

[slim blaze]

Kekw

Actually ds or sera?

[sweet flax]

ds

[amber finch]

sera better for rs

[sweet flax]

eh?

[amber finch]

sera is better

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

dont fight me

[slim blaze]

Hmmmm

[amber finch]

i literally use her

you can fight me on other topics but this

[sweet flax]

is it because of the cdmg?

[amber finch]

ye

[sweet flax]

ic

[amber finch]

[narrow coyote]

How i complete this mission??

Wandering Knight

[sweet flax]

just pick seele and bronya when you are in the roving menu

[narrow coyote]

Oh thx i was having trouble how i put seele and bronya in roving

[sweet flax]

you will see their icons, sushang will always be locked when doing it, just pick seele and bronya as the other 2

[slim blaze]

Ive gotten 703. Good.enuff time to slacc

[peak crow]

Are astralops real important? And if so which one is recommended for PS?

[shadow gyro]

they're luxury pulls, only real use is in nirvana because ds is enough for rl and below
for ps her best is teri

#💁gameplay-help message check this linked message

[sweet flax]

even in nirv, you can easily retain (or even t100) with just ds

its just depends on other players at that time as well

[worldly vortex]

Lvl 77 and my only hood unit is badum kiana. Im thinking about unlocking herscher of thunder or should I wait and go for another

[sweet flax]

all those units are weak and practically useless in terms of meta viability

they are mainly obtained as a method to get more crystals from elysian realm shallow sequence, dorm levels or personal preference
check the war treasury pin for a more detailed priority list on who to get

[shadow gyro]

this might be a weird question but for superstring, aside from being paired with 19 other ppl with the same abyss difficulty as you do you also get paired with people with the same/closest amount of trophies as you? if i make sense

[sweet flax]

there's no direct confirmation. but it might just be random in the end
although I do remember only seeing people in this server when I was around their trophy count as well

too uncertain to confirm though

[rugged sorrel]

i dont have proper hands

lazy to mald with ae weapon

[slim blaze]

kekw

[slim blaze]

get better hands mah dude

[rugged sorrel]

i get 741 with hos old weapon

[slim blaze]

wow senpri user

i just noticed. S2 PS wtf but no weapon?

[rugged sorrel]

yes i dont have her weapon

[slim blaze]

[rugged sorrel]

[shadow gyro]

did u get a lucky s2 orrrrr

[sharp aurora]

how to deal with lantern if i have no sushang? i have badum but the multi hit phase Fs me up

[thick bolt]

you vita the transition phase for the hitcount

[rugged sorrel]

i get 2 s rank in 1 10 pull

why i cant finish this mission?

[spiral badge]

Nope. I get grouped with whales or slackers in what feels like sporadically. Even when in RL

Brackets can be in evenly skewed as well resulting in undeserved promotes or demotes

[slim blaze]

wdym just sell dishes

[rugged sorrel]

but i already sell so many dishes but still shows 0

[slim blaze]

did you just unlock the book

[slim blaze]

just to test, try selling one singular dish. like any dish

[rugged sorrel]

yes

[slim blaze]

ah

that's why

[slim blaze]

have you tried this?

[slim blaze]

pretty sure it only starts counting AFTER you unlock the mission. i might be wrong tho

the roving quest however is cumulative

[rugged sorrel]

wait

[slim blaze]

just try selling 1 dish. like one omurice. if the counter didn't go up, well idk

[gaunt oak]

which is faster sushang AR or no AR? (in ER)

[rugged sorrel]

i sell 5 dish but nothing happen

[slim blaze]

well good luck idk anymore

maybe #🔌technical-help

have you tried restarting your game

[rugged sorrel]

everyday the same

wtf

[sweet flax]

exact same

they are both brain dead builds

[slim blaze]

pick the one with less cutscenes

[arctic sparrow]

broooo😭😭

there's smth I can do abt It?

like, transform one stigmata M in T

[stray raven]

Transform them into Prism

[arctic sparrow]

how?

[quick birch]

You can convert stigmatas in your inventory, all prism stigmatas are craftable you just need 2 prisms and 600 ether fuel

[amber finch]

almost gave me a heart attack with that 6k ether fuel

[quick birch]

Typo

[arctic sparrow]

oh, ITS locked for 24 hourss

[stray raven]

[amber finch]

ahmagash ur alive

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cabbage-ai-dancing-lettuce-dance-gif-4662145642462330877

[quick birch]

Most of the time they just ask you if you want to unlock the first copy of that stigmatas maybe you have some other copies ?

[arctic sparrow]

and i still dont know how tô convert them

[amber finch]

salvage

[arctic sparrow]

ty

[arctic sparrow]

both locked lmaoooo

😭😭😭😭😭

[sweet flax]

it locks regardless, choosing not to lock it just starts the 24h timer instantly

[arctic sparrow]

I still use 3 Marcopolo ir I Just add her M stigmata?

[whole bloom]

Is there any chance that horbirth will get an astral ring?

[sweet flax]

has hoyo hinted at it? no
is there evidence to suggest horb will be the next one? no
is there a chance? yes there is also a chance for other units to get it

for all you know hoyo could also just release a new seele suit in the future

[slim blaze]

vodka twins

astral ring

[hollow dune]

Hello I need help building a 2nd team comp, I have the herresher trio, with only not having 2 stigmas for bronya (rest is maxed) I have s rank battlesuit option 2025 x1 I have herresher of the void in returne I can get herresher of rebirth (heard it's better sup then hosentience) I was looking to make a physical dmg team I just have no idea what to do, I'm f2p thinking of buying returne fund can someone tell me what to do?

[sweet flax]

does hofi have her dkey?

[fallen shale]

what's with the character trials? Am I supposed to obtain those characters before I can play?

[sweet flax]

also this account is severely outdated (DO NOT BUY RETURNEE FUND)

and no, herrscher of rebirth and herrscher of sentience nowadays are both irrelevant as supports (p1 meta is dead)

[hollow dune]

U mean her pistols? Yea I have them and all stigmas for her and hoO but for bronya I have her weapon and 1 stigma

[sweet flax]

no no, her dkey specifically waxing moon

not domain of genesis

[hollow dune]

Where to even look for this?

[sweet flax]

in your inventory, or in the divine key menu in your dorm under stellar key

[hollow dune]

Found it

[sweet flax]

that doesnt look like her pistols

wrong screenshot?

[hollow dune]

That what happens when I press divine key tune?

To get the weapon

[sweet flax]

ok im gonna try to simplify this as much as possible:

you do not own the divine key, so you cannot tune it
to craft the pri-arm you need to tune the base form of the divine key (which you do not own)
so technically speaking, you dont even have a geared trio team

which is why I will ask:

do you care about the meta?
are you actively going for higher ranks (more crystals)
or did you just come back to play casually

[hollow dune]

I just came back and realised I have 1 comp so it's hard to compete in memorial cuz of 1 team

[sweet flax]

which is why I want to know if you care about competing competitively in abyss or not
because my advice will be to start on a fresh account instead

[hollow dune]

And i have a massive skill issue of doing the main missions

Why start on new account tho? I play more causally but I would like to hear why

[sweet flax]

ive mentioned it a couple of times now, but I am saying if you plan on being competitive, its better to start on a fresh account

the reasoning is, your current account has nothing relative to the meta atm
you have a low crystal count as a returnee
beginner rewards are much better than whatever you can get as a returnee
the game has moved on from part 1 units, and is now dependant on part 2 units and their mechanic of astral rings
and being able to perform better in abyss nets a higher crystal income which means that later on if you decide to ditch the meta you will have a more established account with better crystal income before going casual if you decide to do that in the future

[hollow dune]

If that helps I have 9k Crystals rn

[sweet flax]

the average cost of a unit is 30-35k crystals, you dont make that in a patch, especially not as a returnee

[hollow dune]

Holy

Welp in that case I might stay casual, and just not care about meta? With that who should I try to get now

[storm leaf]

why does nobody accept my sensei request 😭

[wispy aurora]

Who to use

[sweet flax]

well I would save until next patch and pick up the unit released then, just to get a decent headstart

[sweet flax]

check for players in the sensei channel, they can be pretty desperate if they need one

[sweet flax]

what do you have

[wispy aurora]

Also forgot HoHe geared

[sweet flax]

bro made an info-panel

[wispy aurora]

Yup

man knows 😭

[sweet flax]

and it still missing things

[wispy aurora]

🤷‍♂️

[sweet flax]

do yourself a favor, take a screenshot like this

[storm leaf]

sensei channel in this server or some channel in game? i couldn't see anything 👀 sorry if i'm blind

[sweet flax]

but anyways, ps fws jds can be used on the first boss, do you have helia weapon by any chance?

for vita coralie helia on second actually nvm, no hofi means no ignite

[vivid horizon]

#na-cadet-recruit

[wispy aurora]

Hellia is 0/4

[sweet flax]

can try sparkle dps on the second boss, or using sparkle as a support but ulting herself to apply ignite

since you preferably want ignite

and wtvr else you have available on kallen (just stick to physical since she has elemental immunity)

[hollow dune]

Okay thanks

[fair hatch]

New to hi3, what should I pay attention to?

[dry python]

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[ancient needle]

If you just started then there's not much you can do outside of playing the story and reading what Cay sent

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask ofc, but a lot of them could get answered by playing the game for a teensy bit

[low kestrel]

can someone teach me how to use susshang in ER?

[quick birch]

Well it depends on what build you want to use there are
SO build

• trigger SO
• trigger stellar shift wait until the pattern shows up and follow it
• after stellar shift press WA until SO is ready again and repeat
  EVA WA spam
• rotate between evasion and WA and thats it basically

for signets check out the pins

[low kestrel]

thanks

[thick bolt]

guide linked here #👶beginner-help message

[low kestrel]

good time?

[sweet flax]

a clear is a clear, generally speaking its not a bad time

time doesnt matter for rewards anyways

[lyric anvil]

Just as long as you get what rewards you want

[dapper axle]

How to get source prism ans Honkai shards ;-;?

[sweet flax]

source prisms are mainly obtained via events or dupe stigs
as for honkai shards, you can convert AE imaginions into them in the asterite shop iirc

[dapper axle]

Thank youuu!!

[tall flax]

improved the transition by alittle and i got 7 more points!

okay got 912, tyty Sairaan

the faster i kill the transition phase the higher the score i get since i cant get any faster for the actual phase

im not sure theres much i could do without signature weapon but heres my run

[wanton canopy]

Tbh why bother atm at sinful.... Unless you are not no.1

[ancient needle]

Gotta get in the right grindset from the beginning

[wanton canopy]

Actually lemme try if i can change their opening without scuffing ARI regen for 2nd phase

[spiral badge]

nothing wrong with wanting to improve for the pure purpose of it

it's fair to bring up to not expect further rewards or significance either but don't make it seem like there's zero purpose

[dapper dock]

Best way to get stamina? Or good deal buying a pack. 😑

[wintry wharf]

buying pack for stamina is madness

just wait

[dapper dock]

Ok

[ancient needle]

Did you alr manage to use up all of your stamina items in the inventory?

[swift ore]

When's the new story?

[wintry wharf]

why there is a new story in this patch ?

[ancient needle]

May 9th
You can check the schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins

[swift ore]

Thanks

[wintry wharf]

oh right i still have to take the free elf box

where is it

[ancient needle]

It's not obtainable yet, but the event is alr up

[abstract sequoia]

needs the training manuals from other upcoming events

probably when the spaceship thing releases we'll get it

[wintry wharf]

ye i just checked 2000/5000

need 3k more books

[abstract sequoia]

i need 3250, 600 per week from weeklies

ah, damn. up to may 10th i only get 2k

they really make us wait until snazzy cards

so yeah, if my math is right this should give us the elf box

or any of the other snazzy card quests if weeklies aren't done yet

[wintry wharf]

i think ill pick klein

or dudu 4*

[abstract sequoia]

it will be kiaelf for me, but i'll have to look first where she's even useful

if i can't find enough, maybe I 3* PB instead

[snow cedar]

other than end game modes nd events is doing story best income for xtals?

[ancient needle]

ER Shallows are the best source of income if you have a lot of valks there

But otherwise ye, it's P1 story before the OW chapters

[snow cedar]

ahh i forgot about that

[ancient needle]

There also are Expeditions and Chronicles

[naive pivot]

so it's LOA weather right

what we thinking, dudu or kiana (sushang where)

[wicked gazelle]

hey guys i thinking about returning to the game after some years. is it better to start a fresh account or continueing on my old account as a returning player

[frozen crypt]

Fresh account definitely

[wicked gazelle]

okay. is it similar to pgr where if i dont pull for meta but rather for chars whos gameplay i like ill be useless and get way less rewards because im not competetive or is it a lil more chill

[frozen crypt]

I don't play any other gacha games so I can't give you an accurate comparison but abyss rank impacts your crystal income pretty significantly, and if you are performing badly compared to other players you will go down to the rank below

Also keep in mind weapons are mandatory in this game for good combat performance either due to utility being locked behind the weapon or simply because not having the valkyrie's weapon results in a 20-50% dmg loss overall in most cases

We have a faq that is in the channel pins about the meta, maybe it can give you a better idea if you give that a read

[wicked gazelle]

oh lawd

so im screwed as a f2p

[frozen crypt]

Definitely not

[wicked gazelle]

there is no way i can get every limited plus their sig per patch

[frozen crypt]

F2P players can afford weapons due to the low hard pity and lack of 50/50 on main character banner

[wicked gazelle]

no 50/50

https://tenor.com/view/pog-gif-19806504

[frozen crypt]

Well you don't need every single character to have a good abyss rank, its more about making sure you get weapons for the ones you do pull

[lyric anvil]

It's more of pulling newer releases

[frozen crypt]

And that

[wicked gazelle]

as for teambuilding im still kinda confused cuz everyone seems to be a dps and support at the same time

[frozen crypt]

I'm assuming you are only pulling brand new characters you like here, not pulling old stuff

[wicked gazelle]

how do i know who to pair with whom

[frozen crypt]

For part 2 generally the leader is the dps then you look for supporting tags that match her astral ring specialisation

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

Bottom link

[wicked gazelle]

yeah im just scared that ill have to pull for meta even tho i dont enjoy the specific chars gameplay

just so that i dont miss out on abyss income

broke student f2p problems 😔🤚

[frozen crypt]

Nah, I skipped the cny valk because I fucking hate her and I did get knocked out of the top abyss rank for it but we generally try to get people to the second highest one because its realistic for f2ps

And the 2nd highest abyss rank is the best in terms of whats required to retain it vs rewards

[wicked gazelle]

so what do i focus on starting completely fresh

[frozen crypt]

Playing daily is the most important thing I'd say, having a rough start does you no favours

As for what to do we have this faq to give you a bit of a starter pack

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[lyric anvil]

The longer patches make it more f2p friendly I believe no? Or am I doing a FAQ ches?

[slim blaze]

Take into mind. Honkek requires a bit of dedicatiin

[frozen crypt]

Yes and no

[slim blaze]

Ofc. More income per patch.

Theoretically speaking

[frozen crypt]

The longer patches means it takes longer for beginners in general to get their account into a good state because they have to wait sooo long to get new chars but the extra few weeks of income is really going to help f2p players

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[slim blaze]

3 extra weeks = 6 abyss cycles and 3 er cycles. Thats like 5-6k

20 more rolls or so

[wicked gazelle]

is it worth to invest in lower tier chars to fill out my team or should i keep them as low invest as possible and just use them as placeholders

[slim blaze]

Not to mentiom the dailies

[frozen crypt]

Its really gonna hurt hoyo's income from this game too but at least we have their other cash cows funding us

[frozen crypt]

Define investment

Just upgrading their level and skills?

[wicked gazelle]

well whatever artifacts are in this game

[lyric anvil]

Stigmata

[wicked gazelle]

and that

the stuff that gives setbonusses and is the hardest grind in every gacha game ive ever played

[frozen crypt]

You shouldn't try to get their best gear no, the game provides you with some pretty good free stigmata and we will provide you with team and gear building guides

And generally levelling up valks is really cheap early on, I generally say until about lvl 50 its dirt cheap to level but only level valkyries you actually use

Just be careful not to overspend on ASM especially on valks like HoV who you get free from login

[wicked gazelle]

is there like a 5 star selector or beginner banner i should care about or do i just go ahead start spam story until i got enough crystals to get the newest char

[frozen crypt]

Beginners have their pity lowered to 25 for the first 2 S ranks from dorm supply but only use dorm.supply cards on there, never crystals

And don't buy those cards for crystals either, even when they wave the 'discount' in your face

You are also provided with a free S-Rank in an egg through the starter manual but none of them have any practical usage so you keep it for later

And ignore the starter supply

[wicked gazelle]

so dorm supply is kinda the standard banner

[frozen crypt]

Basically just pull the new sushang and her weapon

Yeah

[calm magnet]

what banner do i pull on?

[frozen crypt]

!faq pull

[small willow]

Pulling Priority

Yo, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the pulling priority for this patch!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[wicked gazelle]

so crystals should never be used on anything but limited banners

[frozen crypt]

Exactly

[wicked gazelle]

alright its like 2 am in europe so i should probably go to sleep but ill def start my journey tomorrow

[frozen crypt]

99% of the time you will only spend crystals on brand new valkyries and their weapon

Also I am aware you don't seem to be a fully meta driven player, but we do recommend starting out meta because its easier to go meta>casual than the other way

[wicked gazelle]

can i dm any of yall here along my journey when i need help in order to not spam this channel 💀

[frozen crypt]

Dw about spamming

This channel is not busy enough to care about someone asking a ton of questions

We enjoy helping people like you :(

[wicked gazelle]

great im an employer now

[frozen crypt]

:D

[lyric anvil]

[frozen crypt]

Go get some sleep, gn

[wicked gazelle]

Yeah yall geet some whatever time it is and you need rn

[frozen crypt]

1am here I should sleep too

[wicked gazelle]

north europe i see

[lyric anvil]

6 PM

[wicked gazelle]

girls from the brexit island

or ikea

[frozen crypt]

Yeah I'm on that shit island

[wicked gazelle]

Dw you got the queen

[frozen crypt]

[wicked gazelle]

nvm

[frozen crypt]

She died

[wicked gazelle]

YEAH I JUSZ REMEMBERED

[frozen crypt]

I'll never recover rip lizzie

[wicked gazelle]

couldnt handle yall stabbing our EU back

rip liz💔🥀

[frozen crypt]

Dw we stab each other

Its not personal

[wicked gazelle]

the london classic

[calm magnet]

who is ps 😔

[wicked gazelle]

short for whatever the newest character is

[frozen crypt]

The faq tells you

Pls read

[wicked gazelle]

Anyway expect to be annoyed on a regular from now on

sleep well guys

[frozen crypt]

Yippee

[lyric anvil]

[calm magnet]

i still don't know 😔

[frozen crypt]

Fine I'll spoonfeed you cuz I'm feeling nice

It's Peregrine Sword, the new sushang. It says it right below the "what to pull" link.

[lyric anvil]

How long has it been since JK released anyway?

[calm magnet]

Yeah i don't know the names 😭

[frozen crypt]

For future reference you can use the glossary for abbreviations

!faq abb

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[calm magnet]

all i needed to know was sushang

[frozen crypt]

Well there's 2 sushangs

[calm magnet]

oh ok ty

[sacred flower]

am i able to ask for an invite code since im new so me and someone could get the lil rewards?

[frozen crypt]

6.1

@lyric anvil free code?

[lyric anvil]

Whole 2.1 patches

[frozen crypt]

I'm not NA

[lyric anvil]

I can try-
I already have all my xtals from it though

[frozen crypt]

Oh shit

Rich

[sacred flower]

im being a fiend for that extra 60

[frozen crypt]

In that case its better to just get one from #invite-links-here so someone gets xtals at least

[sacred flower]

f2p so ik im abt to build that bank 💰

[frozen crypt]

I don't have any of my friends invite codes on hand

[lyric anvil]

^

[sacred flower]

ah ty

[lyric anvil]

Most of my income is now story

[solar drum]

for a phys valk do their sig weapon and stig set have enough crit without the crit specific affixs

[ancient needle]

For 100% crit rate? No

That was one of the selling points of HoRb, Sera AO and Teri AO

[ancient needle]

Tbf most of RS's damage does have 100% crate (only QTE, basics and SO cast (not Stellar Shift) don't)

[lyric anvil]

Actually was wondering about PS- does she have like 100% crit rate or something?

[frozen crypt]

She can't crit at all

Well

Bru I didn't read her entire kit but the bleed doesn't

[lyric anvil]

Ah ok

[frozen crypt]

I forgot if I saw any normal phys in there

[ancient needle]

Only SO cast and a shieldbreaking attack during Stellar Shift can crit

[solar drum]

so half atk and crit affixes are recommended on certain valks that have crit in their stigs

do bleed dps valks even crit at all

[ancient needle]

Crit rate is still not recommended to put on Phys valks cuz:

1. The affixes don't give crit rate, they give CRT (which translates to a very minor crit rate increase)
2. If you don't crit you can just restart

[ancient needle]

Most of PS's damage doesn't crit

None of VQ's does as well

And only about half of CE's

Bleed DMG literally can't crit

[solar drum]

whos VQ

[ancient needle]

Valkyrie Quicksand, gotta check that glossary in the pins

[wanton canopy]

So this wording means all attack? If so RS has base 82% crit rate on all attack. Charge attack also gives 30%(only for CA)... She seems jacked on crit rate

If max stigs

[ancient needle]

Yes, I meant 100% crate in general, not for specific attacks

@lapis quartz here's the valk banner:

The weap banner doesn't have a description like that

And iirc in that Reddit post there isn't anything weird going on either

[ancient needle]

@frozen crypt idr whether you wanted that too

Wait, since when do we have a Sora emoji

[frozen crypt]

Uwa

Oh KR valk banner

[lyric anvil]

I just noticed these too

[frozen crypt]

I've been looking for kr wep banner

[ancient needle]

No special description there apparently

[frozen crypt]

Interesting

You would have thought with wep banner also having a guarantee every 10 the rates would be a bit off

But oh wellge

[ancient needle]

Maybe KR laws somehow make that you don't have to specify for gear?

[torpid orbit]

does anyone happen to know if there’s a super cope stigma-option for (big) Griseo?
I checked the wiki and the cope version there still requires Cezanne (M) which is Limited/Rotating Supply only and Turgenev (T) requires Turgenev (B), but I already have Van Gogh (B), I looked through the Foundry and don’t see anything super-fitting or even anything Bleed-related (aside from new Sushang’s stigmata, but the effects are locked to her specifically), but don’t know if there’s perhaps something else which could be considered

[lapis quartz]

[torpid orbit]

wait nvm just saw Cezanne in foundry, am blind

[haughty elbow]

turg is in the foundry too

[ancient needle]

I don't think Cez is even good on CE

Lemme see whether Wyv compared stigs

[haughty elbow]

no reason it should be
shes not si after all

not triggering the 2 piece is

[naive pivot]

why would you even SSS CE when you have no gear

[torpid orbit]

yep, wiki recommends this as the cope version, but Turgenev (T) has an effect which requires Hunter’s Marks and it’s on Turgenev (B), but I have Van Gogh (B) and it would seem like a down-grade

[ancient needle]

Here are your options:

[naive pivot]

i've never seen both eden and CE at the same time either, do you have any other elemental supports?

[torpid orbit]

thx, I just hope that it’s slightly better than what I currently have, cause Griseo is dragging the whole team down a bit

[torpid orbit]

thx!

[haughty elbow]

but the wiki makes up random numbers

those numbers mean nothing

[torpid orbit]

I do, but I wanna play this team specifically it’s just a personal thing now

[haughty elbow]

cant replace ce?

[torpid orbit]

I can, but it was my first “good” team, so I wanna see how much I can drag it on in the Bleed related Abyss

[naive pivot]

it would be more good if you replaced this unbuilt CE

[ancient needle]

Anyway, do you have any other crosses?

[haughty elbow]

where bleed abyss

[ancient needle]

Oh, nvm, buffs stack

[ancient needle]

Right now

Oh, nvm, I'm a dum-dum

[naive pivot]

yeah looks like flux to me

[torpid orbit]

those and Lightning Angel, but don’t think it’d be better

[ancient needle]

Yeah, just keep LV's

[torpid orbit]

every now and then, should probably appear a bit more frequent now too with the new Sushang

[naive pivot]

or you know, just abandon CE

[torpid orbit]

nuh-uh she stays

[naive pivot]

why

[ancient needle]

Come on, Mors alr explained why CE's there

[naive pivot]

oh

[ancient needle]

Highly recommend the drink btw

[naive pivot]

the what

[ancient needle]

The drink called "mors"

[naive pivot]

never heard of it

[torpid orbit]

like a juice but more uhmm watery(?) don’t know how to describe

[ancient needle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mors_(drink)

[naive pivot]

oh cool

[ancient needle]

I wouldn't say it's more watery at all

[torpid orbit]

yeah, the word doesn’t fit, you’re right

there’s this something about it, which makes it different from just juice, but I don’t know what

[ancient needle]

Added sugar

And, yk, it not being just juice squeezed out of berries

[torpid orbit]

yeah, that’s probably it

something tells me with my luck CE’s gear might rerun right after I finish building Cezanne TM
anyways, at least some purpose for Ether Fuel again, feelsgood to have it

[slim blaze]

What the

[ancient needle]

CE's gear won't rerun atp, trust me

At least not via banners

[torpid orbit]

cause she’s P1?
I was a bit surprised when she had rerun during… was it during the patch when Vita came out?
so thought it might perhaps appear still

either way I’m sitting on nearly sixteen hundred Ether Fuel with no use and Cezanne (M) sounds like improvement already based on description can’t get worse

[ancient needle]

No, cuz she's too old

[naive pivot]

i have like 10k fuel but i just used some to get cez T this patch

[torpid orbit]

oh! retired…

[ancient needle]

Well, she's not dead necessarily

Cuz LV is still going (barely)

[naive pivot]

is she though

[ancient needle]

VQ died this patch tho

[quick birch]

is LV even a topscore on any boss atp

[ancient needle]

I mean, iirc they readjusted Bleed Tribunal in the beta, that means they're planning to run it

[naive pivot]

don't like 75% of those stages in beta not even come to actual abyss

[torpid orbit]

I’m hopping between Abyss III and Redlotus, so my experience doesn’t have much weight, however I once retained Redlotus with that team without Händel on Eden and no S2 on Luna, so Luna might still mean something imho

[ancient needle]

Beta just has all of the possible boss stages
I meant that they went out of their way to rebalance that one

[naive pivot]

[ancient needle]

Yeah, A3 and RL aren't about meta

Though retaining RL with that level of copium is still impressive

[torpid orbit]

I forgot that there’s a rank above Redlotus

[naive pivot]

don't worry it's a scam anyway

[slim blaze]

20 more crystals!!! Minimum

In a 9 week patch thats 18 cycles × 20 = 360 crystals!! 1.29 extra rolls!!!

[naive pivot]

wow sounds very worth it

[slim blaze]

I assume the 46th dish is only available after every mission is completed?

[sweet flax]

just t100 and its 70 more crystals

[dapper axle]

How am I supposed to have 9 when I can’t even get enough source prism to upgrade one to 50…

[sweet flax]

well originally you had 90 days to do it

[dapper axle]

Yeah haha

I didn’t know it would expire

[wanton canopy]

Or upgrade Marco Polo i believe only cost those blue things

[sweet flax]

also, marco polo tm, fhm mb, that's 4, and 2 prism sets that's 10 total

or 1 prism set, theresa glut t and something like newt b/mei m

a lot of sets could've been to lvl 50 without prism stigs

[wanton canopy]

Then slap Marco Polo into TA then bam big damage

[sweet flax]

ye but you wouldnt use marco b

[dapper axle]

[naive pivot]

there's literally a time limit right on it though

[dapper axle]

I didn’t see it until later x_x
Or maybe I saw it a few times and thought there’s still time

I also was trying to keep it since it’s a good source of crystals

And I don’t trust myself in saving

[naive pivot]

[dapper axle]

Are there any quests that give a lot of coins?

[sweet flax]

The crystals are one time anyways, and the daily bonus crystals is through the whole 90 days

[sweet flax]

Coins are gonna be slightly hard to come by but first thing that comes to mind are story stages and coin expeditions

[amber finch]

salvaging blue weaps is a decent way to get coins fast

[sweet flax]

You don't really get a lot of coins to hoard until you reach lvl 88 where excess exp is converted to coins

[sweet flax]

^

But that would mean you'd be rolling on the current banner, I think chronicle stages also give blue weapons though

There's a lot of sources

[dapper axle]

Ohh :D

[slim blaze]

Asterite to coin lmao

Dont do this early on tho

[dapper axle]

I kind of did but then felt bad so I asked

I felt bad to keep using it for coins

[slow valve]

where are those missions?

[livid silo]

I have this a rank but when I try to enter a mission I can't equip her, can anyone help me with this issue?

[tall flax]

What map are you trying to enter?

[tall flax]

I think that’s the main story missions

[amber finch]

some p1 stages dont allow p2 valks

[amber finch]

mainly p1 story

[tall flax]

Part 1 story doesn’t allow the use of Coralie

[amber finch]

but it doesnt really matter since after chapter 7 you’re forced to use trial valks anyways

[tall flax]

Because Coralie is Part 2

If it’s any other character you have, you can equip her to enter the story

[spiral badge]

sorry for getting back to this so late.

• I'm not sure about using kiana's meter in p1. Just QTE her in for the stig 3pc buff and go immediately to sushang possibly? Then again your sushang doesn't have weapon right? so maybe FWS personal damage is fine.
• I was confused with the transition at first but it looks like you spent a full WA on the first visage > BA4 manually to kill second visage > regain the 2nd stage weapon active from the BA4 and used it on third visage > ult the last two
  • I recently learned that ultimate evading can give you access to BA4 (which looks like a more grounded version of first stage of WA). Maybe see if you can make use of that instead.

But overall the score is prob more than fine for sinful if you're satisfied with it lol

[slow valve]

anyone please help

[tall flax]

I did ultimate evade for the first visage, which was how I got my WA despite on CD

[spiral badge]

oh yeah i see

main thing i would look to see fixing is if you can evade BA4 on the second visage instead of manual full BA seq

but i also don't expect too much of an improvement overall and it's prob alot of fickle effort to make it perfectly clean

[tall flax]

Probably too much effort atp for a potential 5 point increase lol

I’ll call it a day and settle

[spiral badge]

something to keep in mind for next time then. gg

[spiral badge]

i don't mean to ignore you but i have no idea what these are sorry. Try checking for

• main story progress of the chapter.
• click the star icon on the far left of the upper right corner for side quests? Are those all done?
• if this is the later chapters click the dice icon and see if you've completed the vita minigames too

[amber finch]

those are the missions for the new story chapter

it isnt out yet

hoyo just added the missions in early because why not

[slow valve]

because they confuse me
and i don't think i am the only one confused

thanks both of you btw

[dapper axle]

Why can’t I find the notebook in the Home Screen anymore…?
Like I know the the growth regimen ended for me but there were other things in it…

[amber finch]

because it ended

[hot wyvern]

Well the last time you sent a pic about missing the rewards, you have 8 hours for it

8 hours is for the entire starter manual

[dapper axle]

It was a pic from earlier during the day www

[hot wyvern]

Starter manual only lasts for 90 days, and then it's gone forever

[dapper axle]

NOOO

My tickets ….

[hot wyvern]

You probably didn't exchange some of the tickets do you

I thought so LMAO

[dapper axle]

WHHHHYYYY

[amber finch]

i mean its on you

[dapper axle]

[amber finch]

why did you even save when you already knew that its time limited

[dapper axle]

I didn’t know what to buy…not a good reason I know

Wait, was Sushang also obtainable from that shop?

[hot wyvern]

Jade knight yes

[dapper axle]

[hot wyvern]

Actually, did you even use any of the tickets

[dapper axle]

Hmm I can’t remember why her ticket was different than the other tickets…

Um yes .-.

[hot wyvern]

It's not different

You unlocked her when you got enough tickets

[dapper axle]

But it was gray…

Hmm one moment

[hot wyvern]

Yes because you didn't get enough tickets for it

Once you do, she's purchasable for one ticket

[lyric anvil]

[dapper axle]

Oh that’s why I was saving the tickets then…

[hot wyvern]

'Get another 1120'

1553 TICKETS????? Insane

[dapper axle]

;-;

I just got stabbed

[hot wyvern]

Welp, if anything, let that be a lesson to you

[dapper axle]

Is that a lot of tickets…I was trying to get Sushang so…

[hot wyvern]

It is quite a lot

So many potential mats wasted

[slow valve]

||start another account||

[dapper axle]

I know I was considering it www

[storm lantern]

you can just buy her from wt if you want to

[hot wyvern]

Hell no

It's not like your account is bricked or anything

[dapper axle]

But I wasted…

[slow valve]

JK is just collection in part 2?
or is it still useful?

[storm lantern]

you can probably get peary before it goes away which is 3k stig reso

[amber finch]

the real waste is this

[hot wyvern]

Just collection

[hot wyvern]

REAL

[amber finch]

losing out on a lot of crystals

[storm lantern]

shes in er but it doesnt matter for a while

[hot wyvern]

It's already gone btw

[amber finch]

if you want to restart then sure but its definitely not for jk

you havent progressed that far anyways

unless your current account has something like 4/4 ps

[dapper axle]

I will just suffer with what I have

[slow valve]

HoHe with the dkey?

[dapper axle]

No…

[hot wyvern]

What do you have anyway

[naive pivot]

well since they're level 64 after 90 days, i'm guessing probably not much

[hot wyvern]

True

[dapper axle]

Nothing much…

[hot wyvern]

Or maybe they're the type of person who just pull and do nothing

[hot wyvern]

Uh yeah just reroll that shit lol

[dapper axle]

[hot wyvern]

You don't miss literally anything

[naive pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349036474510872576/1366651404495880282/mid-its-mid.gif

[dapper axle]

When I have time…I will do that and correct my mistake…

[lyric anvil]

[dapper axle]

It’s so sad how much I got stabbed with the realizations all at once

[naive pivot]

[lyric anvil]

[naive pivot]

[lyric anvil]

[naive pivot]

[dapper axle]

I appreciate this

Anyways thanks everyone

I will try to start a new acc when I have time .-.

[hot wyvern]

Don't forget to actually play when you do

[dapper axle]

Yes, I will…

I’m trying to think if doing story and all that didn’t count

I think I should treasure my resources more…and make a checklist

[storm lantern]

same time spent daily >>>> long sessions with long breaks

you can also reroll which gives you a big xtal advantage

but its long and repetitive

[dapper axle]

[dapper axle]

Will Coralie’s skin from the previous event get added to the shop…?

[sweet flax]

Probably gonna be a while

If it does, you'll see it in a time capsule most likely

[dapper axle]

:D

Maybe that’s the only thing I will miss if I reroll

[wicked gazelle]

do i pull the beginner banner

with 25 pitty

[hot wyvern]

No

Only pull on the newest valk banner

[wicked gazelle]

alr

[static quiver]

Hi everyone !

I am posting here because I wanted to get some recs for like forming a second team. Currently, I have one team of three valks thhat are pretty good ( FWS + LP + VBm). However, I don't really have any second good team I can use for like Superstring Dimension or whatevs. I joined a few patches ago, so I only managed to only pull on a few valks and saving my crystals for whenever a new DPS shows up or smth. Thanks yall for the help

[lapis mason]

hey what to do when it says i already on this weapon when i dont?

[quick birch]

You can also use vita as a DPS with vita/Hofi/coralie

[storm lantern]

you have vita dps as a second option if its ice weather or something

[quick birch]

Also fyi all p2 S ranks are both supports and DPS depending on if they are the leader or not

[lapis mason]

whats the best way to build lilya

[static quiver]

right... but then I would have to replace Vita in my first team by someone else and I wouldnt know who else to put. I dont really have Coralie built up cuz I didnt manage to get her weapon in a past event lol

[quick birch]

Coralies weapon is free from p2 Story

[static quiver]

oh is it ? I thought it was only VBm's weapon

[quick birch]

Also that is normal as a beginner it may take some time to build up multiple teams for MA for example but in abyss you can use different teams depending on the weather

[storm lantern]

the bar for getting 20 xtals from both sss bosses is quite low and that's all that matters

[static quiver]

right. Yeah I figured because from what I've gattered is that building pt. 1 valks is a waste of ressources so I haven't really built any of them.

[storm lantern]

the other stuff is nice to have but it should be a byproduct of pulling for abyss

[static quiver]

Also, I managed to pull Sena once by sheer luck. Should I try getting her weapon through the BP shop ?

I only have 1 of her stigs tho

[frozen crypt]

[quick birch]

Coralie is vbm btw

[storm lantern]

no

weaponless sena is probably good enough for ma though

[frozen crypt]

Can't get sena's wep from bp unless u pay

[static quiver]

goddamn I mix them up sorry

[storm lantern]

i wouldnt spend source prisms on her stigs unless you're swimming in them

[dry python]

lyo can you pay me

[frozen crypt]

Yeah but I don't wanna

[dry python]

ok

[frozen crypt]

I think 20atk would be more valuable than sena wep

[dry python]

that would've been an insane statement a year ago

[frozen crypt]

Would it

[dry python]

probably

[static quiver]

ik tho tbh I dont mind it too much I usually get the BP only if I happen to have max lvl or smth

[frozen crypt]

You buy bp after you finish it...?

Or am I misunderstanding

[dry python]

you know you finish it faster with a paid bp right

lmao

i mean it's only marginally faster but still

[frozen crypt]

I mean I guess its better than buying bp then not finishing it lol

[static quiver]

yeah I only get it if I happen to finish it because I dont wanna buy something and then not get half of the rewards bcs am stupid

also I only have 3 source prisms and 3100 ether fuel so prob not a good idea to forge stigs lol

[frozen crypt]

I can't even argue with that in this context, fair enough

As long as you're only getting knight when you do that

[quick birch]

Isn't that weekly box the same amount of exp since BP rework

[frozen crypt]

I have no idea, too whel

[quick birch]

[frozen crypt]

Not whel enough for paladin tho

[static quiver]

alright then thx for the help ❤️

I guess I'll just wait and save up ressources for now ^^

[storm lantern]

yeah even if you pulled ps and weapon you couldn't build her

[static quiver]

Dont have the ressources for her unfortunately yeah, and I don't have a team for her either

[storm lantern]

vita fws is a good support setup

[quick birch]

I mean ps/fws/vita is a really good team

[frozen crypt]

Have you at least done the discounted 10x or is your pity too low for that maybe I missed some convo earlier

[prisma fiber]

I need team for MA

All 3 bosses

[static quiver]

I did

I have like 75 pity on her banner and only 1400 crystals so yeah not worth it

[frozen crypt]

Yeah just checking you did the discounted one, not worth going further

[abstract sequoia]

no real point to build her

[lapis mason]

i finally built rozalilya might aswell do liliya

[abstract sequoia]

iirc you need Sleeper's Dream as her best sword and i guess physical support gear

just be aware that there's no real gain out of it and the grind is painfully big, especially for another sleeper's dream

but honestly, blood dance as a support option with jst tm + newton b is probably what you want to go for as an elemental dmg support

unless you want to have her in the same team as roza

[lapis mason]

thank you

[slim blaze]

Hmm who to use ER nlw

Can alwaya go use helia.lol

[prisma fiber]

Need help please,Idk what valks should I use for each MA boss

Idh Sus

[wicked gazelle]

is there a daily missions tab like in other gacha games where you have daily missions and then claim a bit of crystals? i cant find it

[thick bolt]

Left side of the bridge, missions tab

[thick bolt]

probably this
RS Vita JDS
Thel Sena Lamp
CE HoS SI

wait it's aka

Seems it's gonna be a thel bruteforce on lamp and vita dps on aka

[frozen crypt]

Thel b ground spam my beloved

[strong void]

hi, I have a built Eden and Fischl but no usable lightning DPS. I keep missing every opportunity to get Seven Thunders. Should I just get Key of Castigation from exchange shop for HoThunder so I have a usable lightning dps?

I didn't play for a year and stuck with all part 1 valks, which I am told are severely powercreeped now

i heard next patch valk will be lightning but I don't know if part 2 valks work with part 1 supports

[abstract sequoia]

they are very incompatible outside of a few exceptions

What you want to do instead is make a full part 2 team, because they have many mechanics that part 1 simply doesnt have

[autumn oxide]

not worth

[abstract sequoia]

this being the most prominent example

it changed as a whole how teams are made

[abstract sequoia]

and to name some exceptions, Eden actually still has use together with HoO dps and HoFi

some Fire dps are basically supercharged by Sparkle's ultimate

Lightning dps can be supported with SImp's breach, where Lunar Vow found most use of that

And Reign Solaris is basically a Prometheus replacement

[strong void]

yeah i have full trio team but usually they take up one MA boss and my other teams don't have good DPS

as far as part 2, i guess i'll get helia next patch and rank up coralie for support, not sure who else is worth investing in

[abstract sequoia]

But probably no hofi divine key right?

[strong void]

nope

missed that by a week when i started again

[abstract sequoia]

then you cant really do hoo dps efficiently

its alright, will rerun eventually

but you should focus on getting part 2 valks first

[strong void]

so is anything worth getting in exchange shop? just part 1 stigmas that take forever to farm

i have some extra duplicate stigs that are not useful

like a whole second set of HoO stigs for some reason

[abstract sequoia]

I mean usually stuff for MA

[wicked gazelle]

do i use mats on early game valk skills?

[strong void]

how early game

anything before version 6.0 is basically dead weight, right? can't even clear MA

[abstract sequoia]

to answer that first, Coralie is worth to get to SSS, just keep in mind that you get her for free in part 2 chapter 1 including her best hammer

[wicked gazelle]

seele

[abstract sequoia]

Helia I would only upgrade to S rank, unless you have a ton of asterite anyway

she doesnt find much use unlike Coralie who is your best slot filler valk

[abstract sequoia]

• Mei: Beach M
• Isaac Newton B
• Schrodinger M
  I also got Benares TM from there to use for HoO as copium because I only have her sig weapon

[storm lantern]

you still have ss 0s and some p1 teams do fine on sss bosses

[abstract sequoia]

MA is a totally different story compared to Abyss.

[storm lantern]

asms are the only material you want to save leveling skills, spending coins at low level is fine since you cant really physically spend enough for it to be a problem

[abstract sequoia]

New bosses are built around newer valks yeah, but they still run the old

and i'd say many of the new bosses are also clearable with p1

[wicked gazelle]

how do these 2016 chars have better combat than genshin 😭

[frozen crypt]

No comment I'll get demoted

[wicked gazelle]

lmao

[abstract sequoia]

(theory) they lost the plot and didnt adapt everything that makes honkai combat great

[frozen crypt]

(Theory) all their staff had covid brainfog and forgot how to make good combat

[abstract sequoia]

it usually happens when newer teams try to adapt things without proper guidance of the old blood

[wicked gazelle]

just how you forgot that you wont have groceries during a pandemic once you leave the eu

[wicked gazelle]

makes sense why impact is his fav child

its better than zz even ngl

[abstract sequoia]

honkai was always the hoyo main series

[frozen crypt]

I just wish hi3 was the one that released during covid and not that botw clone

As much as we doom this game it really did deserve the recognition genshin got

I hoped p2 would bring that but it did not

[abstract sequoia]

eh, the botw clone is unwarranted except for like the first 20 minutes

[autumn oxide]

ok wait i dont really like what im reading all too much

whilst what ram said is right, i think i shd add on that if u really do plan to be playing this game regularly again, u shd start investing into new valks.
investing into old valks, be it back pulling or farming toward getting subobtimal gear for them, isnt really a good idea especially if it involves u investing xtals into it. farming for key of castigation for ht is bad for 2 reasons -- ht is really really old and doesnt do well anymore, especially in a ht gd pv team (her best team choice rn wld probably be something along the lines of ht lv sip) AND it costs too much resources for very little benefit
whilst p2 units dont really function well with p1 units, since u just came back u dont really hv a choice per say. ur choice will be to either use a new p2 s rank with helia and cora, the 2 farmable a rankers (helias weap is currently gacha only), or to use her with placeholder supports like ta (has a psv tdt skill and can hold stigs like ogier t for more psv buffs) and rc (her purple combo has some tdm buffs) for example.

in terms of ma clearance, u can always try ur runs with buffed mode if u rly cant clear bosses normally. old runs using old valks still exist and can still be used; ma bosses seldom change, if ever. even now, theres still plenty of old ht pv gd refs for a buncha different bosses, albeit ht here is usually at least ss1 and has her full sig gear of 7t handel. also these runs usually rely on klein elf for the insta qte for more dmg.
as ram mentioned again, newer bosses added are usually made to be catered towards the new valk debuting but they are usually bruteforcable. to name some examples,
sss bygone deliverance - hoo runs (hoo hfi sip, hoo hfi gd. 47744 and 47760 respectively)
an sss sd boss (epernay, guaymas) - si hrb sonk. was the bis choice for awhile too

now in terms of what stigs are worth getting in exchange shop, honestly i'd say none are worth it. ppm and newt are nice to hv but way too niche nowadays and theres really nothing that screams "NEED" from that store. anyw idw to waterboard u with info so if theres anyt u dont understand just ask

[frozen crypt]

Can u not fucking spam please

Jk loveu

[wicked gazelle]

girl said ion wanna get demoted seconds ago

[wicked gazelle]

it was 20 minutes of gameplay but 80% of the marketing

waifu botw

[abstract sequoia]

the press did the botw comparisons, not hoyo

[wicked gazelle]

well yeah but a lot of stuff was really lets say inspired

[strong void]

okay. that's the impression i got (that it's not worth finishing these part 1 units) , thanks for confirmation

[abstract sequoia]

mondstadt, yeah for sure

[wicked gazelle]

dont stab him

[abstract sequoia]

but thats about it

[strong void]

In terms of exchange shop, i just have no idea what to do with these extra stigs that are useless

so i figure if i turn them into one old G3 set that's better than useless

[frozen crypt]

they'd never unless I did smth really bad

[autumn oxide]

i'd say dont make any decisions without asking but honestly theres nothing there thats impt

[abstract sequoia]

"new" stuff always gets added

so could wait for something your want

[autumn oxide]

since ur acc is slightly more catered towards old old stuff, it may help to just send pics of shit u own

[wicked gazelle]

tried that too cant send pics in this channel

[autumn oxide]

but u can?

[wicked gazelle]

i at least cant

[autumn oxide]

abis!

[frozen crypt]

I wouldn't spend reso until you actually need either red lenses or an exchange stig

[abstract sequoia]

channels & roles, first channel on the top

need the captain role

[wicked gazelle]

ahhh

[abstract sequoia]

which you get by reading the rules

[wicked gazelle]

i thought it was cuz im german

[abstract sequoia]

i mean check my roles, im also german

[wicked gazelle]

mein beileid

[abstract sequoia]

same

[wicked gazelle]

je nachdem ob die blauen mich bald rausschmeißen mal schauen

[autumn oxide]

LOL

heimscheisser

[wicked gazelle]

i do for a fact enjoy shitting at home

[autumn oxide]

same

ban speedrun

[wicked gazelle]

wait am i not allowed to say shitting

[autumn oxide]

offtopic

lyo gonna bully me i must leave now

[wicked gazelle]

oh yeah mb dont smite me british girl

[frozen crypt]

Hurensohn

[abstract sequoia]

[frozen crypt]

Knowing my luck thats probably blacklisted wait

[wicked gazelle]

chewsday innit

[abstract sequoia]

i mean ai-chan didn't bonk me

[frozen crypt]

Xd

[abstract sequoia]

so i guess its allowed

[ancient needle]

Lyo can read that if she wants

[quick birch]

must have been the wind

[autumn oxide]

what does that mean

[abstract sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-you-typing-violetgif-walter-i-saw-typing-gif-26293146

[ancient needle]

DMs

[autumn oxide]

what did bro say

[frozen crypt]

Idk what that even means

[autumn oxide]

death threats HELP

[frozen crypt]

WHAT

Ok yeah don't do that

Take such flirting to dms

[wicked gazelle]

son of a women that enjoys being paid to make men happy

[frozen crypt]

Oh...

[autumn oxide]

oh u know i will

[frozen crypt]

Let's get back on topic...

:D

[wicked gazelle]

yeah so know that i can send pics

is this banner bait?

[autumn oxide]

yes

[frozen crypt]

Yea

[outer spruce]

imagine the standard banner but worse

[frozen crypt]

Like I said yesterday only use on them never crystals

[wicked gazelle]

how is there a worse

💔 🥀

[frozen crypt]

None of the valks in there have the astral ring system

All shit unless you can use them for free ER xtals

[wicked gazelle]

do i get a usable endgame valk for free

[autumn oxide]

i mean if its not ur money its free right

[ancient needle]

Coralie (still copium)

[autumn oxide]

so take ur moms credit card and rake up some credit card debt

[ancient needle]

That's from the Asterite shop though, not Dorm Supply

[wicked gazelle]

my mom gon teakwando my ass

[autumn oxide]

nt bro

[frozen crypt]

Tweakondo

[wicked gazelle]

kdrama watcher spotted

[frozen crypt]

Whar

[abstract sequoia]

its not if you use dorm cards

but nothing good on that banner

[wicked gazelle]

so itll take months before i compete

[abstract sequoia]

okay nah

[wicked gazelle]

i gotta start learning how to meditate

[abstract sequoia]

2 patches if you pull release valks and stay active on those

[frozen crypt]

Not rlly you can kinda compete in a3 with just one geared p2 valk lole its just effort to make it work with cope supps and depends on boss, some you are just cooked

[abstract sequoia]

im still cooked on ignite

because there is just nothing I can pull

[wicked gazelle]

cant believe i missed the fire staff chick

[abstract sequoia]

Kiana will come back

[ancient needle]

She'll rerun this patch if you really want her

[abstract sequoia]

this patch actually

[wicked gazelle]

once shes powercrept or

[ancient needle]

But you'll most likely have to skip Sushang

[wicked gazelle]

gladly do that for my girl

[abstract sequoia]

honestly, I'd rather suggest Badum over PS

[wicked gazelle]

i had a crush on azula as a kid

[abstract sequoia]

for your first valk

[wicked gazelle]

it all falls into place

[abstract sequoia]

my reason is that she supports more astral rings

[wicked gazelle]

so shell get a rerun?

[abstract sequoia]

you normally dont want to pull on reruns, but I believe badum is a great support in every ring she falls onto

[wicked gazelle]

does pitty carry over from limited banners

[abstract sequoia]

mhm

[fallen shale]

in memorial arena are you trying to get the number lower?

[autumn oxide]

what

[abstract sequoia]

the normal limited banners at least

[fallen shale]

this number

[autumn oxide]

oh yea

[abstract sequoia]

there are some special ones that appear not every patch like ADV supply that dont have pity carried over

which is the sole reason why this banner is not recommended to get valks with

[wicked gazelle]

whats a marco polo stigmata

[quick birch]

i mean we dont know how good they both will be in the ??? ring but sus is a fine LoA support really

[abstract sequoia]

of course she is

badum also supports world star though

[quick birch]

what world star is there to support for new players

[fallen shale]

would she be good for PS?

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/coralie-honkai-honkai-impact-3-hi3-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-12597019713559494470

[abstract sequoia]

new released ones

[quick birch]

smh shes RoO asu

[abstract sequoia]

i dont think world star is a dead ring

[sweet flax]

same thing she isnt even a dps

[quick birch]

currently we only have 3 dps from a ring and then they move on to the next one

[sweet flax]

does wod have 4

[abstract sequoia]

ely

[autumn oxide]

er no? we went 1 ws then straight to wod

[sweet flax]

lantern thel ely sonk

[abstract sequoia]

this

and then we got 2 more WS later