👶beginner-help

[unborn vault]

Lmao, how can I add you as a sensei ? x)

[lyric anvil]

Can't

[unborn vault]

Ah

[lyric anvil]

You're EU

[unborn vault]

RIP

[shadow gyro]

different servers unfortunately

[lyric anvil]

^

[unborn vault]

And still, how can I add someone specifically ?

[shadow gyro]

you can check the channel shown here and they can add you ingame if you give them ur uid

[unborn vault]

Ok it's not the other way

[shadow gyro]

im not sure tbh

[unborn vault]

Maybe you want a cadet ?

[shadow gyro]

ill have to check my current cadets first

[sweet flax]

you need a sensei?

[unborn vault]

That's the idea yes

[sweet flax]

send me your ingame code, i'll add you since no one seems to be available atm

[shadow gyro]

i don't mind adding if you can't find one but my current slots are full

[unborn vault]

Fine, i send my ID in DM or here as you want

[sweet flax]

just send it here

[unborn vault]

209067258

[sweet flax]

sent

[unborn vault]

Thanks so much ! :)

[sweet flax]

[unborn vault]

And what you mean by active cadet ?

[sweet flax]

an active player, who's just a cadet

if cadets are not that active they just take up a slot and neither cadet nor sensei get benefits out of it

[quick birch]

Some also just quit and take up an cadet slot ofc you can remove them but personally I just forget they exist and forget to remove them

[sweet flax]

still crazy how out of 30 smthn cadets only 2 graduated for me

[unborn vault]

I see, I will graduate don't worry x)

[shadow gyro]

same tbh

[lyric anvil]

Had to remove two I had since they became inactive

[unborn vault]

And as a cadet I get 1 sensei and th sensei can get how many cadets ?

[quick birch]

Just create 8 alts like me and let them graduate but forget about them afterwards

[sweet flax]

2 cadets per sensei, each cadet is limited to 1 sensei

[quick birch]

Big 🧠 move

[shadow gyro]

tbh the length of this patch can also make some cadets more inactive than usual out of boredom or burnout

[unborn vault]

Seems fair

[sweet flax]

made an alt last patch and took it to nirv, then ditched it

lowkey cant be bothered maintaining 2 accounts

just wanted to see the beginner situation

[unborn vault]

Is that this benefic for sensei ? x)

[shadow gyro]

tbh cadets get more than senseis but the sensei shop still got useful stuff

[quick birch]

The rewards are not huge for senseis tbh it's just a nice little extra we don't even get crystals

[lyric anvil]

I ditched mine too for that reason
Though I'm still kinda a beginner in a sense

[sweet flax]

the only nice part about sensei shop tbh

I guess the 100 sc metals as well

[unborn vault]

I see it's just a little extra for you x)

[shadow gyro]

how fast new accounts can grow kinda makes it hard to find a lot of cadets aside from the inactive ones
and then these cadets become sensei and want ppl so they can get the stuff from the shop
so eh
at least cadets gets the main benefits which is why they need to find any sensei to get the rewards

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

ye, and the game doesnt openly recommend to players the cadet system

on my old account I didnt know about the cadet system, on my current account I became a cadet at lvl 73

[unborn vault]

Never too late eh

[shadow gyro]

also cadets don't even notice the sensei system do they?
the amount of beginners that i saw that didn't even know about it ans a lot of them alr reacted level 50+ now

[sweet flax]

I mean nowadays you can definitely be forgiven for being late with cadet rewards

but old missions were ruthless if you were above lvl 65 at the least

[shadow gyro]

i see

[unborn vault]

I only knew of that 'cause I see a video guide earlier x)

No in game pop up for that

[lyric anvil]

I only knew of it was when I searched online for crystal sources

[shadow gyro]

better than me i didn't know about it at all and it was too late for me to be a cadet

[sweet flax]

among other issues such as cadets being shown senseis but said senseis would have a full cadet list so they cant apply

[shadow gyro]

yeah...

[sweet flax]

the system is outdated af

[shadow gyro]

pretty much

someone told me that daily teaching was a thing

[lyric anvil]

Or Sensei's get shown maybe inactive new players/high level cadets.

[sweet flax]

you'd have better luck making luna kindred meta again than hoyo updating important game features

[shadow gyro]

yup

[sweet flax]

tbh the issue I have is hoyo showing me cadets who already have a sensei

[quick birch]

The world would have to turn upside down so that hoyo would update their in-game guides

[naive pivot]

they made her meta again by making her taller and giving her a chainsaw

[sweet flax]

dkey where

[naive pivot]

horbius first

[shadow gyro]

still waiting for the ingame vid tutorial for white comet 👵

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

hello captain, press the attack button repeadetly because using your hold atk after 3rd basic sequence actually does less damage and is slower than a 4th basic atk

wc tutorial

[shadow gyro]

✍️ ✍️

[sweet flax]

only hoyo could design a kit where you are punished for using it the way it was made

[shadow gyro]

uh my white comet is eating pizza and she doesn't want to listen to me what do i do now

[sweet flax]

feed her to the honkai

anyways imma go cook some tuna

[shadow gyro]

make sure that mei doesn't hear any of this

[sweet flax]

actually before I dip, aint no way we are already saying hi3 is dying 💀

[shadow gyro]

i take it that's a rant about the way the game is now?

[quick birch]

Hoyo isn't letting hi3rd die anytime soon but this also isn't the place to discuss this, maybe some lurkers could get a wrong idea

[sweet flax]

agreed

[sweet flax]

usual doom posting

[shadow gyro]

pretty much

[sweet flax]

reddit takes

like literally, copy pasted takes from reddit

[spiral badge]

yeah take that shit to #🎮honkai-chat or #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion lol

[shadow gyro]

might as well lol

[sweet flax]

My bad, sorry

[shadow gyro]

does someone mind telling me the name of this boss since i do wanna look it up to prepare in advance

isn't it sparkle's boss? i forgot the name

[sweet flax]

tonatiuh iirc

ye its sparkle boss

[shadow gyro]

ah i don't have sparkle but i suppose i can just use badum then ty

[sweet flax]

no eepy teri?

[shadow gyro]

nope

[sweet flax]

quantumless is gonna be pain on this boss

[lyric anvil]

Badum brute force I do for that boss then.

[shadow gyro]

yeah.. tried to get her with the carnival pulls but got nothing

[quick birch]

Surely weaponless eepy will work was enough to retain last time

[shadow gyro]

#💁gameplay-help message my list, still figuring out bleed vv as well

[sweet flax]

just take the L on vv

unless you wanna try some p1 songque with SI bullshit

[lyric anvil]

Bleed will be a pain with my current roster-

[shadow gyro]

yeah seems like that's my fate for the rest of this dudu + sparkle shill

[sweet flax]

wait until next patch

you are gonna do it again

[quick birch]

When nirvana again I'm missing my 6atk 8.2 better come quick

[shadow gyro]

atp I feel like ill dissolve if i don't get the 8.2 valk
gj hoyo for the mental torture

[sweet flax]

surely 8.2 is bait for 8.3

[shadow gyro]

yeah probably

tried getting + 100 on tank but i got sniped and i can't lie im not looking forward for these bosses
at least rn i have enough for a 4/4 valk ig im fine with taking some Ls

[sweet flax]

no ely?

[shadow gyro]

did badun ely vita

[sweet flax]

how much?

[shadow gyro]

ds aop

810 which is disappointing but tbh my atk on badum and ely (s1) is low

[sweet flax]

no you just slacced

[lyric anvil]

I already know I'm demoting from A2 even though I barely promoted to it-

[sweet flax]

demoting from a2?

[quick birch]

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

why would you use ta, she buffs physical

use rc as the filler

you can easily retain a3 with that shit

[shadow gyro]

tbh idk whenever the dis is very close to 500 my dmg just dies with it
ill still try retaining the other weathers but i don't have high hopes for most of them

[sweet flax]

honestly for bleed take the L, try your best if you want and pray for bracket rng

as for quantum, you can try to retain with fws, but if there are 10 quantum enjoyers in your bracket, just dont bother

[shadow gyro]

fair enough

at least im not very disappointed since i have a lot of crystals rn but ill do my best regardless since i still want to save more

[sweet flax]

how's your crystal count?

[shadow gyro]

i could consider using the affix devices (currently owning 2) on hohe but atp i think I'll just save it for future valks

[sweet flax]

on hohe? definitely not worth

[shadow gyro]

41k + 14 wp supply pulls

[sweet flax]

easy 8.2

actually could probs garuntee 8.2 and 8.3 if you are lucky with your pulls

[quick birch]

youd have to hit pity on one of the 2 patches to not get both tbh

not even considering the 3 weeks left

[shadow gyro]

according to my own calcs i should leave 8.2 with around 80 extra pulls if i don't get a burnout and max everything

[shadow gyro]

mhm

[low kestrel]

what i chose?

[sweet flax]

tbh the main concern is if hoyo decides to drop a nice banner

[quick birch]

dist aint going down soon RL +1 again

[sweet flax]

your preferred playstyle, left is get on hoverboard and run around (dont click any other button) and right is hold atk spam

[quick birch]

[shadow gyro]

oh wdym?

im currently skipping all the bait that hoyo is throwing at me rn

i skipped the bridges and the vita skin and i don't need to pull for hofi and vita
and ill skip sparkle and dudu
and as much as i like that hohe skin im skipping it

[sweet flax]

tbh outside dkeys I dont think they've run any yet

[low kestrel]

i never played with her so idk what i chose, so with one is better?

[sweet flax]

if it makes you feel better, a lot of people prefer base over hohe skin

[low kestrel]

or easiear to play

[sweet flax]

left is easier

[quick birch]

you just go weeee while flying around the enemies

[shadow gyro]

wow interesting

[sweet flax]

literally just run around them, dont click any button

[sweet flax]

its probably players coping themselves about not getting it

[shadow gyro]

after you pick one there's a guide in-game

[quick birch]

wait daily reset is at 5am now not at 4 not staying up that long

[low kestrel]

what is the signites that i should pick?

[sweet flax]

daily reset is earlier?

[sweet flax]

general stigs like kalpas, su, griseo are pretty decent choices

eden is really good

[quick birch]

daylight savings were yesterday so daily reset was delayed for every country who does that shit

[shadow gyro]

at least ill skip any but valks + gear, will still consider having extra incase there's any potential double releases or new dkeys drop

[sweet flax]

oh I thought you meant server time

[quick birch]

nah my actual time

[sweet flax]

[low kestrel]

don't have 😔

[sweet flax]

aponia is fine

[frozen crypt]

Is it even possible to fail these? I feel like I used trial valk and picked dogshit signets and it was still easy

Maybe thats just fws moment tho idk about dudu

[sweet flax]

~~its ok, let them feel powerful ~~

[quick birch]

~~you just need like 1 decent signets and its fine tbh doesnt even have to be good ~~

[frozen crypt]

Its ok just want to check that 'pick whatever' technically isnt troll advice if I am forced to help with ER lol

[sweet flax]

I mean I would rather give them the general idea of what to get than babysit them through each choice

[shadow gyro]

unless u pick the kalpas nexus that lowers ur hp and go afk nah the enemies are paper

[sweet flax]

you die with kalpas signets?

[low kestrel]

with one?

[frozen crypt]

I did in fact pick kalpas2 but I licked my keyboard a few times so I won

[shadow gyro]

lmao

[sweet flax]

read them and see which one benefits you the most

[frozen crypt]

And turn the toggle off

[sweet flax]

although I guess since you wont be using abilities you could go griseo to apply paint buffs assuming you got griseo signets

[low kestrel]

me when people tell me i need to read:

https://tenor.com/view/waaa-gif-9106407282540049296

[sweet flax]

gacha player told to read, world is ending

[quick birch]

gacha players actually begin to read, world is collapsing

[shadow gyro]

tbh this lite er is so easy that you need to intentionally fail to actually fail and even the enemies say no ans die
there's the tutorials for the people that don't know how should they use the valk and after that its easy
its nice to know what signets u pick tho

[sweet flax]

tbh you could just redirect them to the er pin, say pick up signets based on the recommendations and call it a day

[shadow gyro]

yeah lmao

i actually know nothing about mini dudu in er, i only watched one video, followed the tutorial with the trial dudu and just went blind for the rest

[sweet flax]

mini dudu in er is either, press no buttons, or hold 1 button

there's no in between

[shadow gyro]

but considering that its a limited event, i still encourage people to know what the signets do and what to pick for who because after this event its over its back to the usual stuff

[low kestrel]

@spiral badge sairaan can u help me in abyss?

[spiral badge]

Sorry not today. I'm very busy

but state your details and i'm sure someone else can help you

[low kestrel]

😔

@ancient needle can u help me teammate?

[ancient needle]

With what specifically

With the rot? Team comp choice? Smth else?

[low kestrel]

Team is badum Hohe and songuqe

also, can u help me in memorial arena? idk what teams to use

i'm scared to cook my self

[quick birch]

you can do smth like FWS CA-> sonque qte-> HoHe qte and WA make sure to hit the weakpoint on this boss

[ancient needle]

Vita instead of Songque should be better, you can follow this: https://youtu.be/OK9VpiAdoYY?si=LNcy6RnbOXKNg_vR

[quick birch]

ainoway awawa made a run with that lmao

[low kestrel]

i don't have vita 😔

[haughty elbow]

what can awawa not do

[ancient needle]

Do you have RS? If yes, you can follow this instead: https://youtu.be/9rHwhuUZa90?si=yeTlwwk6eUjN6cbb

[low kestrel]

no too

[quick birch]

such a good ref i wonder who this awawa might be

[spiral badge]

this is really what kind of information you need say first thing btw

do you think we can give you help without knowing what team you're using?

but because you didn't say it first, now you need to wait for us to ask you for it, then wait for you to tell us

and abyss ends in less than 2 hours from now. You really don't want to be wasting time on that

anyway sorry i can't help

[low kestrel]

i was ocupped today so i just have time to do abyss now qwp

[spiral badge]

i'm not saying you should've started abyss sooner. You misunderstood

[ancient needle]

Okay, you're being a bit too blunt rn imo

[spiral badge]

sometimes it can be a stategy to start late. other times as you said, life can happen and you're not available until now and that's ok

[ancient needle]

Awa can't record a ref without fish skips

Anyway, @low kestrel, I think you still can refer to the RS ref, just substitute RS's rots with FWS's and adjust accordingly

[low kestrel]

okay

what teams i use here?
i was thinking in
kevin - idk
husk - luna
hellmaru - hohe

[quick birch]

a screenshot of your roster would help, maybe we can cook some cursed teams that will work

[spiral badge]

you're repeating the same issue i'm talking about. You need to give information first

[low kestrel]

but what information

[spiral badge]

what mango just said

also keep in mind MA ends later than abyss

so try to do abyss first

abyss is also where you're getting more crystals from so it's more important

[low kestrel]

that's what i have

also some random charaters is 3/4 and 4/4 like bronya silver wing

[quick birch]

all p2 chars 4/4 ?

[low kestrel]

yes

[quick birch]

id say you could cook something with

• FWS/Hohe/sonque
• sonque/thele+sena+lantern
  im not too familliar with SS hellmaru strats and how well your pardo and kira are geared
  but you can do smth like
• HoFs/pardo/kira
  or if pardo and kira dont have their gear you can use thele but SS MA is another story there are some cursed tacticts best to focus on abyss and SSS bosses first

[low kestrel]

okay thanks

who is HoFs? Fws ios badum right?

[quick birch]

use glossary in pins for abbreviations
HoFs is mainly used for her leader skill in SS MA which gives a nice amount of sp and some elemental dmg if you are wondering why i suggest her. She also can trigger ultimate evasion with her normal evasion which is nice for MA since it gives time fracture

[spiral badge]

hofs is flamescion

there's not much time left so i'll spoonfeed this time lol

[low kestrel]

wait HoFs? but the boss is fire

[dry python]

.

[spiral badge]

no they know who it is now

they're just thinking hofs is the dps when she isn't

hofs is purely used for support and utility here @low kestrel

[dry python]

Which is also explained in the message

[spiral badge]

oh i didn't read lol

i don't have time haha

[low kestrel]

sorry i'm sleepy

[quick birch]

as i said her purpose is not dealing damage in this situation. SS MA bosses are extremly squishy which allows some more cursed strategies

[dry python]

When does na ma end anyway

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/pk85G1A.png

[low kestrel]

good score i think

[low kestrel]

just to say, i don't have HoFs 4/4 just 2/4

[dry python]

Oh

[quick birch]

you dont use her actuall set normally anyway, you can use smth like her weapon turgTB and beach mei M.

[spiral badge]

a 4/4 hfs is only going to give damage to herself and isn't going to buff kira, who is the real dps here

it sounds strange but as mango said, SS MA is a place where all sorts of weird strategies happen

[slim blaze]

Ever since i have hohe dkey i just the same hohe + thelema for ss ma haha

[quick birch]

if we keep the team i mentioned before, kira would want her weapon and full set while pardo is a bit more flexible again, we would have to see what you can work with

[low kestrel]

she died :(,

[spiral badge]

fws can evade mid attack as she mashes without interrupting her sequence

she should also be able to heal a bit if you do sustain some damage iirc

keep in mind jump is also a kind of evade too

don't forget you can turn on buffed mode at worst

bygone deliverance's moveset patterns generally has two variations i think? so you can also do the fight enough to learn when to evade

[low kestrel]

what i do with this?

[runic canopy]

keep it for most meta or favorite dps.

it will save you from affix rerolling RNG and time.

[jolly pulsar]

im going to have to look up the treasure chest locations
I have been searching blindly for stygian alley and eroded ruins
I am convinced it is bugged. It is not there

[grim sinew]

How can I get Mobius? Is she gacha exclusive? Or can she be farmed?

[sweet flax]

as of this patch she can be farmed, but tbh not really worth going for outside personal preference

[grim sinew]

Oh she can! I want her for personal reference she's waifu material for me, how can I farm her? Do u have a link to a guide?

[sweet flax]

war treasury

[grim sinew]

Is there a time limit?

[sweet flax]

no its permanent

she's that old now

[grim sinew]

Yay so I can get her any time then I just need to farm

Thank you for the info!! (⁠☆⁠▽⁠☆⁠)

[runic canopy]

get to lv 81+ ASAP for faster farming, you get the materials needed (Ancient Legacy) early from events, but further weekly farms are only available after lv 81+.

[grim sinew]

Thanks for the tip!! (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)

[runic canopy]

by the way do you need a sensei in game?

[grim sinew]

Thanks for the offer! But I think I'll just ask in this channel if I need help but maybe if I get stuck in the future I'll ask for your help~ (⁠｡⁠•̀⁠ᴗ⁠-⁠)⁠✧

[thick bolt]

Getting a Sensei for the rewards alone is worth it. A lot of crystals.
Can just pretend they don't exist

[grim sinew]

Oh it's an actual thing in the game? I thought it's just having a new friend to ask questions to

[thick bolt]

ye actual thing
Friends -> Sensei tab is where you access it

[grim sinew]

Ok I'll check it out later!

[thick bolt]

This post gives more detail #👶beginner-help message

[grim sinew]

Thanks!! (⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠)

[runic canopy]

oh, was talking about the in-game sensei system, but no worries

[slim blaze]

This is the part where i advertise myself and get reprimanded by mods and profs

[rugged breach]

Long patch sigh

[floral lake]

does these quests give xtals

[ebon crescent]

where can i obtain molotov cherry's augmented core? (for the Elysian Realm)

[thick bolt]

Buying from asterite shop and Expeditions

Adv tasks are another source as well

[thick bolt]

it's story, finishing it always gives xtals

[cunning bloom]

I honestly need help in the game I haven't played in months and I'm not even sure if any of the characters I have are any relevant to the abyss not sure where to even go off on again I got a recent character but I don't really have much use for her since I don't have the others for her. Any advice would be great.

[thick bolt]

bottom one is ch 7EX, the story for this patch so has some extra limited time rewards

[thick bolt]

If you got Kiana try getting her weap. Valks without weaps fall off massively in use.

Cookie cutter advice would be to save crystals and pull future releases when they drop, check the pulling pin to decide whether to pull whenever it happens.

Checking pins in general works for most stuff, for anything else just ask away.

[cunning bloom]

@thick bolt I have her weapon and her stigmata set

[thick bolt]

W at least you're set on that end

[odd plume]

what else do you have?

[cunning bloom]

@odd plume

All characters I have

Been on and off super frequently with this game so I feel like I. Missing a lot of characters

[odd plume]

do p2 story chapter 1 to get coralie and her wp
you can use badum coralie and someone like TA for now

i asume you dont have thelema wp?

[cunning bloom]

@odd plume which wp would that be like the class

[odd plume]

chainblade

[cunning bloom]

Yeah no I don't

@odd plume

@odd plume I have coralie with her weapon and stigmata set

[dry shadow]

I got Horb from spending event, does she have a use outside of ER?

[thick bolt]

For dps HoS if you have the brick (though the boss rarely runs)

otherwise triple supp comps for MA mostly (very rarely dps HoRb in abyss)
So yeah, ER valk mostly. She's also very reliant on sig gear so that's an oof as well.

[dry shadow]

Mhm, thanks

[odd plume]

good, use badum coralie and TA for now, just cope while waiting for new valk

[cunning bloom]

@odd plume ok thank you 👍

[rugged breach]

When is 8.2?

[floral lake]

will i be able to get 4200 xtals im in red lotus rn

till 4th april

i did ER this week

[north cave]

you mean get another 1020 crystal by 4th april?

[odd plume]

if you still have once time crystal left

[quick birch]

24th of april

[floral lake]

yep

[quick birch]

check crystal sources in pins but as an RL retain you will get 1020 crystals if you havent done ER already

[floral lake]

which open world it needs for the achievement

[dry python]

Shouldn't it just be any of the 4 OWs

Sakura and schicksal should have the most gatherable items

[floral lake]

i gathered in schicksal but it didnt gave me the achiv

[dry python]

Did you activate the OW

[floral lake]

nope

[dry python]

Yeah that's probably why lol

[floral lake]

do these things enemies drop counts as gathering things

[calm kernel]

how about you pick up 3 and see if the achievement progress bar moved

[floral lake]

nope

[calm kernel]

im gonna guess only sakura stuff counts since part of the reward is sakura stuff

[floral lake]

i thought so

[floral lake]

i have this much now

i think ill be able to get 4200

[slim blaze]

OMG IT"S BLEED VV????

[floral lake]

ignore the 600 maintenance

[lean pivot]

So ive been reading about returnee stuff and “instant restart”

What are current beginner bonuses?

[floral lake]

ill get 4200 but i cant pull them all cuz-

is it worth if i pull dorm

[wintry juniper]

ya I'm bleeding

[floral lake]

oh nvm ill be able to pull

its till 4th april right, not 3rd at 12 am

[slim blaze]

not to be that guy but

[slim blaze]

please take note that only 20 dorm rolls count for the spending event.

based on the picture above^^ , you only have 7 dorm rolls left.
but NEVER use crystals for dorm rolls, only use the dorm tickets

[floral lake]

Do you really think i didnt saw that

[slim blaze]

yes

[floral lake]

Damn

But thanks!

[slim blaze]

thats noon time

probably, idk about time zone shenanigans just check #status

[normal bolt]

As a newbie account, should I pull for Theresa Astral OP or not?

[sweet flax]

No

Even experienced players shouldn't unless there's an exception

Especially f2ps

[vital hearth]

what affixes does Songue need?

[odd plume]

atk

high roll crit dmg is decent too

[bold wraith]

how high should i level an old valk for char trials

like HoS

[sweet flax]

relatively well

[shadow gyro]

if its er then ignore the level
if its stress test then might as well do around or more than the recommended in the stage assuming cope gear

[bold wraith]

oo i see

like would i have to go to lvl 80 and stuff or

[shadow gyro]

i remember the level being around that yeah
you'll also have to level the important skills
the rest try not to invest too much and use the best option that you have
if its a craft able weapon at least leave it to level 35
you can use the realm of battle's fist since you wanna level it for gene limits anyways
or if you already have a maxed fist then use it

[bold wraith]

i have that uh

AE fist on her rn

[frozen crypt]

very good

[bold wraith]

nebulous duality (non pri)

[shadow gyro]

yeah that's good

will help her with sp

[covert delta]

how much sc metal and taurus does a char + weapon need for full max

[quick birch]

400 torus 520 SC

[covert delta]

ty

[mental python]

She can only be obtained by gacha right? So the outfit alone is useless?

[sweet flax]

she isnt obtainable by gacha right now

||she'll be in bp next patch in 8.3, but after that she will remain unobtainable for a while||

so ye, the outfit is useless, and either way you shouldnt be aiming for it, its just a bonus reward that will be accessible to other players in the future

[quick birch]

||isnt she in 8.3, sena should be 8.2||

[sweet flax]

||yes you are right, I just realised I wrote patch not cycle 💀 although I guess cycle isnt quite the right term anymore||

[abstract sequoia]

is that confirmed already?

[sweet flax]

wait let me link you directly to it

[abstract sequoia]

yea please, no pin about it

[sweet flax]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[abstract sequoia]

thx

[sweet flax]

its in pins

[abstract sequoia]

ah nvm

need to go there more often

[tired igloo]

when is the 8.2 update

[quick birch]

have a look at scheduel in #💁gameplay-help pins

[opaque niche]

hey should i get the weapon of susannah or of HoRe for the Susannah Physical team?

[wintry juniper]

as in, Susannah weap or HoRb valk?

or is this in regards to the BP shop

[opaque niche]

as in the weap in the BP shop

[quick birch]

if you dont have 7t get that first. both wont really be usefull for a physical team since p2 is just too dominant and if you would use a p1 physical team you want a 12/12 team to actually make them work.( which is not worth pursuing meta wise) || sushannah is also loosing her niche next patch||

7t is recommended because of the global +10atk

[dapper axle]

Is the azure waters reading direction right to left or left to right?

[dry python]

Right to left

[opaque niche]

what is 7t btw

[thick bolt]

7 Thunders, for future abbrevs you can check the glossary in the pins

[opaque niche]

oh thanks

but if i want one of the weapons (susannah's or HoRb) should i take susannah ?

[sweet flax]

Vq weapon by itself is useless

And horb weapon is pointless if you don't have p1 physical options tbw

[opaque niche]

okay it's because i dont have a quanta team and physical team in p2

[lime talon]

which to pick

[thick bolt]

Reso
reso to lens conversion is possible, reverse isn't

so regardless it's the safer pick till you decide what you need

[lime talon]

also tips on how to clear this boss

[sweet flax]

Quantum is beyond niche, never worth investing into, and have you rolled this patch or?

[sweet flax]

Dodge attacks and hit enemies

[lime talon]

ok idk what either those are

[sweet flax]

Resonance

[opaque niche]

for bp shop not yet

[lime talon]

the final boss gives like 6 lasers which makes it impossible to get the charchter to have enough time to do the charge attack

[thick bolt]

reso - stigmata resonance
lens - spatial convectron

the materials in your screenshot

[lime talon]

no i meant like what they do

[sweet flax]

What does bp shop have to do with banners

I meant did you roll for the new unit or are you saving

[opaque niche]

i have already rolled

[thick bolt]

Reso can be used to purchase old stigmata from exchange shop. There are some pieces in there that aren't in foundry yet or you may just wanna save forging mats

Red lens is used for crafting G3 and G4 stigmata from foundry

[sweet flax]

You can, take advantage of mei's attacks being in the air and coralie being able to demolish shields

[lime talon]

i just cleared it after only doing 3/4 boss hp

help q manifold (agony 4th stage)

[dry shadow]

Is there a way to lite universal mirage other than levels 6 and 7? The button doesn't appear for some reason, idk if this is normal

[outer spruce]

no there isn't, 6 and 7 are the only ones you can lite, the rest must be done manually

[dry shadow]

Dang

[sweet flax]

That team doesn't work, use sw as a dps with rc and si (replace si with jk when you get her from beginner manual)

[lime talon]

20 away 💀

[lime talon]

how od i check what chapter im on in apho 2.0 (tryna see how far away im at from completing chapter 4)

[low kestrel]

what i do here

[spiral badge]

you went to the right side and solved all the puzzles earlier right?

going through the right sided puzzles should moved you downward and around so you can approach the orb from the backside

[spiral badge]

if you need a video then look up est3tiga's youtube channel

[low kestrel]

okay

[spiral badge]

if you have any further trouble, feel free to ask and elaborate

[sweet flax]

is jds lp and si able to cope this abyss for retain in rl?

or some p1 jds with horb shinnanigens

[woven echo]

what's recommended to farm on universe mirage?

[obtuse ridge]

Are any of these people good / who should I use? I just started

[shadow gyro]

click the wall of guides in this channel's pin
there's a mirage guide

[shadow gyro]

you'll use Coralie and songque for endgame content and they're useful rn as well
you'll level up starry impression as well for use in early game and mid game alongside herrscher of the void for the same reason
gimme a minute

[left vale]

no not really. if you dont have any bleed dps i would suggest just tanking the demote

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message this is a link to budget weapons and stigmatas that you'll use, for now use what you have and then get these for the characters that you'll use
you'll later on get stigmatas for songque that are in the foundry since that's her signature gear

[sweet flax]

its not demote, but i'd rather retain to promo back to nirv next weather

[left vale]

vita hofi and LV can work in RL but to retain with it you have to have very good bracket luck and execute the rotation almost flawlessly (and your LV has to be 4/4)

[left vale]

sorry, can you clarify what you mean? i'm a bit confused when you say "i'd rather retain to promo back to nirv next weather"

[sweet flax]

im 75 trophies away from nirv right now, so id rather retain in this weather so that I can promote to nirv on the next weather instead of the one after, just for crystal income purposes

but if I have to take the L then I will no worries

[left vale]

well i can assure you that a JDS combo with LP and SI isn't going to retain
you can try SI/HoRb/JDS but youre most likely not going to retain with it

^ especially if your SI and HoRb arent SSS 4/4 and S0 4/4 respectively

[sweet flax]

well its better than nothing I guess, ill try later

[quick birch]

It's EU RL everything is possible with bracket luck

[sweet flax]

horb is s2 4/4 but si is ungeared

[left vale]

NA RL has lower dist afaik xdd

[sweet flax]

eu finally not the most slacc region?

[left vale]

yeah sorry you won't retain

[obtuse ridge]

What do the stigmatas do?

[left vale]

NA temp has been below EU for quite a while iirc

[left vale]

stigmatas are a type of gear; think of them like relics/artifacts in genshin if that helps. basically they have set bonuses and are usually the bulk of a valkyrie/battlesuit's DPS/support buffs

[obtuse ridge]

Oh I see okay, do you still have to do the farming and rolling for them then ?

[left vale]

no. signature stigmata sets since part 2 (7.3) are craftable with source prisms

[quick birch]

The last time I checked they were even, I was just referring to some recent experiences like flower where EU RL was proving that they have no hands

[obtuse ridge]

Let's gooo 😭 😭

[quick birch]

Talking RL here no idea about nirv

[left vale]

do note that source prisms are a pretty scarce resource right now. when pulling a dps's gear youll get the fullset by the time you get the weapon 9 times out of 10

ideally you dont want to have to craft stigmatas but if you have to, you have to

the only exception really is coralie (valkyrie blastmetal) since her weapon is free. if you craft her stigs you have a decently powerful A rank support that fits into every astral ring team (not BiS by any means though)

[shadow gyro]

yupp
but don't put her as your current priority to get her sig set since the stigmatas are permanently in the foundry, for now save the prisms as you'll need them for the future p2 characters that you'll pull
you can also get songque's stigmatas to let her support the new unit

[dim burrow]

When do i get to see login milestone

[shadow gyro]

its on the phone thing on the bottom right
i don't remember the name of the thing in it tho

[dim burrow]

I know where, I just need to know when. like what level do i need to be to see it. Thanks

[mortal carbon]

you need to be level 60 for it to show up

[dim burrow]

gg

its joever

[quick birch]

Lvl 60 is smth you reach pretty fast tbh, any specific reason why your reaction is like this ?

[dim burrow]

yea, binding issues, I need to find when my account was made and hoyolabs wont tell me. Cant unbind if account level is over 20

[wispy aurora]

What should I use for this

[quick birch]

Well depends what do you have

[wispy aurora]

with bleed if so

[mortal carbon]

you still can depending on the reason for it, but if they say they cant then they probably cant

[dim burrow]

ok

[quick birch]

How are you're p2 Valks looking, If you are desperate you can try some cursed shit with SI

Otherwise taking the L is an option

[dim burrow]

im basically been trying to get them to work with me on binding my main account onto a different hoyo account but that one has an account already made on it by accident

its been almost 2 weeks

[wispy aurora]

P2 Valks which I have

[quick birch]

do you have HoRb and SSwords by any chance, if not you can try sonque DPS with SI since she can actually benefit from SI buffs, it will be cursed though tbh

[wispy aurora]

ss swords?

[ancient needle]

Meant SSwords
Shattered Swords, HoS's old sig set

[quick birch]

Old senti set more like how is your HoRb looking in general

[wispy aurora]

No senti gear

I do have HoRB

[quick birch]

How's her gear looking

[ancient needle]

I mean, that's not cursed at all, that's a proper team

P1 Songque is an actual thing (especially in MA)

[quick birch]

Was referring to P2 sonque with SI as cursed

[wispy aurora]

I don't have Sonque wep so cant use for DPS

[quick birch]

Oh

[ancient needle]

Ah, rip

[wispy aurora]

Yeah so this a Take the L?

[ancient needle]

Then it should be between FWS Vita SI and Thele Vita SI (probs the former cuz you can't swap to SI during WoD SO)

[quick birch]

Fws and SI rotations are actually kinda nice from my own experience, just don't expect your score to be good

But it's all we can work with me included

[amber swift]

i have nothing for bleed weather, which one of these teams is the best for trying to force my way through it

[uncut agate]

which one is gonna be better in f2p terms SI or CE

[ancient needle]

You absolutely have to use a Bleed source here (SI/CE/LV), Vita HoFi LV would be best
If no LV, you can do FWS Vita SI

[ancient needle]

If both are gearless SI should be better

[uncut agate]

the only gear for either of them is cezane B

[onyx lynx]

if u guys need MA strats, ive been keeping a library of reference-vids

[ancient needle]

Cez B is good

[uncut agate]

running theresa origins and salvation of sakura on CE

[ancient needle]

On a side note, some of your DPSes here have better support options out of what you have

For example, you don't run Thele with Sena anymore, you use HoFi/Badum

Sena is better than Vita in ele WoD if Vita is S0

[quick birch]

And for thele DPS you can just run Sena and vita for her supports

[ancient needle]

And Thele DPS uses both Sena and Vita

idk whether you have other supps for LoA, but afaik HoHE is pretty much the worst one

Still solid ofc

[ancient needle]

Gotta gib the link now

[amber swift]

but my LV isnt geared so idk what i can do with that. also how does the team work? FWS vita si?

[onyx lynx]

im wondering if mods will allow here but if i post in #na-armada-recruit, its not really an armada..

@muted plank

[amber swift]

which

[onyx lynx]

ai chan bot removed

[amber finch]

oop

[amber finch]

add a .

wait no

[onyx lynx]

nah just go to #na-armada-recruit message

[amber finch]

yeah

[ancient needle]

Pinging the mod that isn't active here 🗿

[amber finch]

i forgor no promo allowed here

[onyx lynx]

they green

so imma poke the bean

[ancient needle]

@frozen crypt @heady relic

[frozen crypt]

Hello

[muted plank]

It got beaned because it was a link to a discord server

[onyx lynx]

yea i noticed in chat history, no one ever posted a discord link in this channel

im just sharing a reference library. nothing more, nothing less

[amber finch]

ur not allowed here

shoo

[heady relic]

Thought I could smell blue chees

Stinky

[frozen crypt]

I was pinged silence cheese

[onyx lynx]

Reference Library: #na-armada-recruit message

[amber finch]

its na btw for any eu sea lurkers

[ancient needle]

Yeah, then don't bother with LV
Well, you do Vita's sequence, apply Bleed with SI and then start alternating between FWS and Vita until Bleed runs out, then you apply Bleed with SI again and repeat

[onyx lynx]

I prefer space cheese from Herta SU

[onyx lynx]

ah, hmm...

[amber finch]

they can just give themself the na role

its not locked behind anything

[ancient needle]

Show your stigs btw

[frozen crypt]

Still awkward

[amber finch]

fair

[ancient needle]

If it's an actually good library of MA refs it probs deserves a pin in #💁gameplay-help

(I didn't check it yet)

[muted plank]

Dump it on a google sheet/reentry or something

[amber swift]

mm i see, okay thanks. i didnt know you could just do that and it woulr work

[muted plank]

I hope it's obvious why pinning a link to another discord isn't really the way we want to do things

[ancient needle]

@amber swift

I wanna see what you can cook up for SI

Oh, you have HoTr's stigs I assume, you probs can just use them

[onyx lynx]

bot will auto remove it

[ancient needle]

If you post it yes

Anyway, the mods have alr spoken, gotta dump it somewhere else

[frozen crypt]

It could probably get added into that references pin

[amber swift]

all of them 4/4 that i showed, and 4/4 SI, but i can get a screenshot if you ned more

[onyx lynx]

basically

tho mainly for MA

[ancient needle]

Nah, no need, just use full Zaychik on her

[amber swift]

why?

[ancient needle]

It's better for ele teams

[amber swift]

okay

[ancient needle]

I don't think there's anything better than it for SI

[amber finch]

whats 3s, synergy?

[frozen crypt]

Would be nice to have a google sheet or rentry like echi said that explains what exactly the server is then provides a link rather than just the server link on its own that way you can also share it independantly without getting filtered

[ancient needle]

I assume it's just SSS

[onyx lynx]

^

[amber finch]

what the whel

[ancient needle]

SSS AO that is

[amber swift]

does it matter that my SI is only S

[onyx lynx]

There's a limited amount of characters you can type in a single message, so a pleb like me who only is sometimes Nitro-Discord

[ancient needle]

S is enough

[cyan dune]

I should take convectrons right? Cause I can get the resonance from open world task

[odd plume]

get resonance, you can exchange it for convectron later if you want, same rate, but not vice versa

[cyan dune]

Got it, thank you!

Also I've done multiple expeditions and this mission won't update does anyone know why?

[left vale]

are you doing the right expeditions?

[cyan dune]

I think

[left vale]

which ones are you doing?

[cyan dune]

The section with frags right?

[left vale]

one second

[ancient needle]

You need to do the AFK ones through the Dorm menu

[left vale]

no no

[quick birch]

Yeah you do

[ancient needle]

Wdym "no"

[left vale]

im pretty sure its these no?

cuz it says 3*

[ancient needle]

You need to do these only to unlock the AFK ones

[quick birch]

Yeah and you have to 3* them to afk them

[left vale]

oh right alr

[cyan dune]

Those are what I was doing and it wasn't working

[quick birch]

It's a rather common question here it's a bit misleading in-game

[left vale]

do these after youve completed those

[cyan dune]

👍🏻

[ancient needle]

Nah, gotta farm them frags lah

[lyric anvil]

I was confused too when I first did that

[ancient needle]

But ye, the menu is correct

[left vale]

man im not referring to the expedition itself

[olive ivy]

uh does hi3rd do some kind of silly stuff today like some other gachas or all is normal? (asking because it's the first april first on this game for me)

[mortal carbon]

https://x.com/HonkaiImpact3rd/status/1906904356336566465

Honkai Impact 3rd (@HonkaiImpact3rd) on X

[BREAKING NEWS]

Honkai Impact 3rd Remake — The Time Has Come!

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world with a brand new look!

Trailer coming soon! Stay tuned.

#HonkaiRemake #HonkaiImpact3rd

X · Apr 1, 2025, 3:00 AM

[olive ivy]

oh ok, is it only on social media or also in the game as event?

[mortal carbon]

no idea, thats all the info there is

probably just a trailer if i was to speculate

[olive ivy]

gotcha, ty

[cyan dune]

look at the date 😭

[dry python]

Look at the message 😭

[cyan dune]

gng i cant read

im illitermate

[mortal carbon]

its ok babe we all cant keep our liters in our mates

[dry python]

[mortal carbon]

I hope we do get an actual trailer though it'll probably look really funny

[dry python]

I hope we get more info on why longer patches and less story

[cyan dune]

ik itll never happen anyway but id be devastated if they announced an ENG dub on april fools. like its the one unrelistic dream i have for this game lol

[olive ivy]

anyone knows what they did on the last... 7? years of april fools, if it ever was also on game some event?

[neat crow]

is she good? i LITERALLY pulled just once!

also got my kiana~

[thick bolt]

Pretty nice to have for LoA ring in general. For both RL and Nirv

Though uh, next time ask before pulling if you don't know what you're pulling for

[neat crow]

I wasn't really thinking about it, I just randomly pulled lol

Will keep in mind for next time

[thick bolt]

Okay as for what Teri is for.

She's an astral Op more specifically for the Law of ascension ring type. What she provides at S rank is extra ring energy regen for faster stellar outbursts as well as an extra super qte for the lead valkyrie changing up the outburst rotation quite a bit so I suggest looking at abyss refs to adjust to it.

SS rank does give her ari regen for RoO as well but she's fine as is. Better to save for a new valk instead of going for ranks.

In RL you can expect about a 30 point improvement on avg for LoA weathers while she's everywhere in nirv so will make retaining easier.

[neat crow]

I'm still learning when it comes to astral op and stuff, thanks for the explanation!

One more question! Is HoHe still good? I have her and her sig from the level rush

[odd plume]

usable with her new wp, not that wp

[neat crow]

Which one is her new one? The game has really changed since the last time I played

[odd plume]

go to wp collection and find an unowned pink bow

[dense bramble]

Is it fine to not pull for now?
I started very late for 8.1

[thick bolt]

Kiana banner ending. Save mode for next patch it is for most cases

Each of the back pulls has their own downsides so better to wait for 8.2

[dense bramble]

When's the next patch?

[thick bolt]

Apr 24

[dense bramble]

That's a long wait

[thick bolt]

If its a new account you can use these teams in the meantime

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

Realistically there isnt much need of geared teams since even solo HoV does fine till lvl 70. Can use that time to become familiar with the game

[dense bramble]

Alright thanks

[odd plume]

HONKAIREMAKE
new code

[safe laurel]

I just seen new 3rd discord logo, are we going to get anniv or it already ended?

[quick birch]

This patch is ani patch the new pfp is for April fools

[safe laurel]

Oh i returned late on this patch

[red ridge]

worth to buy HoHe stamps from supply shop?

[odd plume]

what is her rank now?

and you have her new wp?

[red ridge]

just S

and she is 4/4 with the new stuff

[odd plume]

rather save, most player have SS hoh already

[red ridge]

i can buy all 5 stamps if it makes a difference

[odd plume]

also she doesnt seem to have much use

[odd plume]

only S2, better than S0 but wont make much of a different when you mostly compete with SS+

can buy if you want but i would save

[meager dagger]

does pity carry between banners?

[thick bolt]

Depends on the banner but for Battlesuit and Equipment supply yes

Doesn't carry over for Adv, carnival

[next spade]

some bosses u can just brute force and shi but my god these mechanics are literally if u dont have bleed u just lose is so dumb

[sweet flax]

first time?

[charred cloud]

Who woulda thought ailment weathers would require that ailment

[wanton canopy]

Watch me get 2900 pts ||JK||

Promoted To RL with no bleed dps this time so yeah....

[urban lake]

any ideas how to do this abyss with these valks? all p2 valks are 4/4 but Luna is 2/4, lack 2 stigs

[sharp aurora]

Why is it so hard to farm Source Prism? Got any tips?

[thick bolt]

all sources #👶beginner-help message

it's just accumulation with time unless you managed to snag a lot of dupes on a banner

If maxing/crafting stigmata sets is the issue then a saving tip is to level equally instead of 50 one, 50 2nd etc

Also can opt to leave a set at lvl 45 if you have multiple sets to deal with (as long as one isn't way more useful/recent and the other rarely used)

[urban lake]

caycay help me#👶beginner-help message

[thick bolt]

The thelema is questionable. Teri, Sena Luna comes to mind but I'm not sure how that plays out

if it even plays out

[urban lake]

so teri sena luna?

idk what the rot will be, UGH I HATE THIS

also forgor to methion that sena doesn't have weapon, she uses sparkler as cope

[thick bolt]

[urban lake]

haha I'm f'd arent I?

[thick bolt]

no bleed is auto dead this abyss

you have Luna so can cope but the other team members I'm unsure

[urban lake]

others in mu bracket have 4/4 luna

and SSS eden

I dont

I hope I can atleast retain

[quick birch]

But you have simp, how is your CE looking

[urban lake]

she only has weapon

and like S rank with picasso as cope stig, out of the question

[lone crater]

no ce + luna demoot https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/883713600403931136.webp?size=48

[quick birch]

Well

[floral lake]

i will retain even if im -100 right

i dont have bleed

[thick bolt]

you'll still be RL

[floral lake]

good
there isnt -200 right

if im at the very bottom

[thick bolt]

-100, so you'll survive with 1550

in the case that you're below 10th

[covert delta]

i still dont know what to get from here can sb help

[thick bolt]

I would suggest a couple of ELF boxes for potential rankups in the future

Not much value in the other stuff with your current amount

[covert delta]

really? i never used an elf before i only have p2 valks

[floral lake]

good
i must stay in rl

[thick bolt]

Kiaelf occasionally has use over DS for p2 teams at high ranks.

And not much a single stamp can do for you atp

[covert delta]

what team should i use against vill v

i also have susannah lvl 1

[stark geyser]

is there a guide for growth box priority? Otherwise I desperately need honkai shards, can I pick them ?

[odd plume]

dont remember what in there, show a picture

also what lv are you?

[gloomy acorn]

Vita hfi lv is runnable

674 in my brack but ss sonk, could be skissue but who knows

[slim blaze]

Can i go vita hofi LV with 1/4 LV

[haughty elbow]

yeah

u can also go dudu songque si

[stark geyser]

67, cant pic rn but its EF300, WS120, ET35, SCM-H2 120, PS 50 , HShard 2 and operation terminal 15 per box, i have 3 boxes

[storm cobalt]

Does fps affect the timer :thinking

[odd plume]

still beginner, you dont need honkai shard that bad

[haughty elbow]

no but it affects ur input speed

so u will get more points with more fps

[storm cobalt]

Ty

[odd plume]

starter event and other mission give you tons of shard, and being low lv, you dont need high lv gear

[stark geyser]

i do sadly before reading guides i got my AE sig to level 50 using 9 HS and ran out of them now I wont be able to upgrade fortitous red in time for the upgrade event

[odd plume]

it only give small reward iirc

[thick bolt]

Noted

[stark geyser]

i dont know the value of the stuff it gives rather im not able to assess it, so I save the boxes right?

[gloomy acorn]

Potential man is bald

Need non interrupt attack timing but I can see 660+ no elf

[odd plume]

yes, torus and sc metal are usually the go to pick

need them after lv 81

[sinful hatch]

need help

[raw wraith]

guys, which team ok ?

[ancient needle]

Either replace HoHE with Vita in your current team or run RS JDS SI (assuming they're geared ofc)
Also, what gear is SI running?

[sinful hatch]

all p2 are geard up

[ancient needle]

CE HoRb RS should be best

Though CE HoRb SI is still worth trying tbh, idk how the weather affects the teams relative to each other

[shadow gyro]

you have their signature gear right?

[raw wraith]

yea fully geared

[floral lake]

What if i dont have RS (i need team for this abyss)

[autumn oxide]

clearly uve never played vv

[ancient needle]

Not with CE DPS, yes

[autumn oxide]

ce hrb rs has nothing to effectively clear bleed trauma in opening

ce hrb si has no way to efficiently get hrb the sp she needs if its s0

[ancient needle]

Ah, right, I'm too spoiled with S2 now

[autumn oxide]

even if uve never done it, in lv team u use ce for the first two then qte to lv. to do the first two u qte ce for 1 and ult for 2

just going off of that u shd know that going for all 3 is gonna be either a big waste of time with ce solo bleed

[ancient needle]

I assume you don't have LV?

[floral lake]

No

[raw wraith]

well so the conclusion is....

[ancient needle]

Would it actually be? Can't you just do CE basics in-between VV changing positions?

[ancient needle]

What rank is your HoRb?

[raw wraith]

S2

[autumn oxide]

dont think so, or at least ive not played arnd with that

rs si jd did net me a 661 but i hv s teri

[ancient needle]

Are SI and HoRb geared by any chance? And if yes, what rank is HoRb?

[sinful hatch]

with RS team i reached like 230 bouns and the fight isn't over 😂

[floral lake]

SI is 3/4 i dont have horb yet

[ancient needle]

What's missing on SI

[floral lake]

T piece

[ancient needle]

What gear did you use on SI?

[autumn oxide]

661 on 512d

[sinful hatch]

si have no gears for her 😂

im new to the game

[raw wraith]

hell naw is that high ?

is that Theresa can make RS use the astral thing twice just like Badum ?

hmm i think i should get her

32 more pulls

[ancient needle]

Unless you're a Nirv player it's not a good idea

[haughty elbow]

dont need even in nirvana
loa is so free and astral op doesnt do much

[ancient needle]

661 is solid, yes
Anyway, it's hard to tell which team is best in RL in your case without trying stuff out tbh, but I feel like it's between CE HoRb RS and CE HoRb SI, it depends on how much DMG you need

[haughty elbow]

if stellar shift was timestop then teri would be way better

[haughty elbow]

if u dont run si then gl hitting the bleed requirements

[raw wraith]

how do you think abt her ? did you get her

[haughty elbow]

yeah and what i think is shes not very good

[ancient needle]

CE hits them fine tho, no?

[haughty elbow]

if si cant do the end what makes u think ce can

not to mention the start is slow af

[gloomy acorn]

Omagad potential man can outscore rs?

[quick birch]

you may value that second shift a bit too high, stellar shift does not have timestop kiana gains 1,5 sec time stop after her shift but we've had situations where you finish the boss with stellar shift so that 1,5sec time stop goes out of the window sometimes

[haughty elbow]

mayhaps

dudu has the dmg but not the bleed

[gloomy acorn]

VV interrupt annoying for p2 potential man though, need to reset for good timing

[autumn oxide]

man i gotta mald for atk rng this is so bs

712 with no atk rng is so aids

[haughty elbow]

imagine interrupt
my qte gaming could never

[autumn oxide]

surely the 744 is worth it

[ancient needle]

I think you can try either JDS Sena/Vita/Thele SI or FWS Vita SI, I don't think other options will be better in your case

[ancient needle]

Run the classic Glut T FHM MB on SI and record a run

Make sure to track the Bleed duration

[haughty elbow]

wod with si is bold

ur bleed is gonna expire fast

[ancient needle]

True, but JDS could cook with short SOs

[haughty elbow]

no

[ancient needle]

idk how much DMG you need in RL

[haughty elbow]

si wont regen enough sp

[autumn oxide]

zhen t

buddhamode

[haughty elbow]

[ancient needle]

You should need only 2-3 ults, surely she has enough for that
Though I also forgot that ARI regen is crippled too, so ye, JDS doesn't sound good

[autumn oxide]

im running out of sp in a 3 ult run

i need to do like 2 cas

including in opening

[autumn oxide]

oh that was easy

[sinful hatch]

what a score

i hate the bleed on my 3 accounts

[ancient needle]

Which team was that
JDS is not great here actually, I've missed some stuff, mb (you can backread if you wanna)

[sinful hatch]

kiana vita and si with no gear just fhm mb and glut t

[ancient needle]

And FWS JDS SI is also a good consideration (trading some of FWS DMG for JDS DMG)

[ancient needle]

(run sig here ofc)

Btw, if you don't feel like playing a lot taking the L in this case is 100% fine

[autumn oxide]

man what am i meant to run on rimeshit

terrible boss

[ancient needle]

You likely won't retain with FWS anyway

[finite forge]

Hi everyone!!! i started playing HI3 today
Is there any general advice and things I should consider?

[ancient needle]

Btw, @frozen crypt, considering that they added an extra affix box there recently, do you think the FAQ deserves an update?

[ancient needle]

Well, if you just started then just play the game for a bit really, you can check this if you want some extra info: #👶beginner-help message

[frozen crypt]

not desperately needed tbh

[low kestrel]

it's even possible to get the chests that are in this area?

nvm i get it

[spiral badge]

Updated pin with new code. Tell your friends

[safe laurel]

should i get more kiana elf currently 2 star

[spiral badge]

there's a guide i wrote in the pins of many factors to take into consideration

[safe laurel]

ty

[spiral badge]

seeing you don't have horb, i think kiana frags are pretty high to consider but i would also like to know if you own a gacha astral op already or not

[safe laurel]

i play to rarely to get into red lotus so i dont need strong team

[spiral badge]

sounds fine then unless you want to consider anything else in the shop. The more casual you are, the less you need to abide by recommendations too

[safe laurel]

ty bought elf box it going to sit in inventory for some time now, same with last anniv valk selector

[spiral badge]

yeah that's normal

flexibility of the box is pretty potent and a rash hasty decision won't yield much anyway

although we can discuss valk selector box if you want

usually those boxes are full of outdated and farmable valks so it's not as important to hold on to them if you really don't want to

[spiral badge]

although do check if there's other things in those boxes like max affix selectors. Those are quite rare and notable late game if you ever want to keep that open to you.

[safe laurel]

yes there is, simply i know that i am never going to use it xd

[spiral badge]

you may more consider that for less meta but more sentimental reasons too

like maxing out stats on a stig for a valk you like

not all valks uses atk though so feel free to ask if you have someone more in mind

[safe laurel]

i gambled on most of part 2 gachas on their stigma

Thelema got best rolls i think

diffrence i get with guaranted 46 attack isnt really worth mayby, to use on senti if she gets part 2 divine key/ new suit

[spiral badge]

yeah those are quite solid. Meta wise i wouldn't recommend any change in affixes unless you have a specific situation where you're very slightly off

[young olive]

||should I pull for the upcoming valk?||

[low kestrel]

what is this new event of honkai impact? that they changed the server photo

[thick bolt]

April fools

Even threw out a chibi remake trailer for Hi3 to be released on aril 31st

[low kestrel]

what trailer?

[sweet flax]

you can check it from ingame, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8G5InQZn0&ab_channel=HonkaiImpact3rd
but here's the link

[low kestrel]

thanks

[solar drum]

is small griseo more suitable for regular phys dps or bleed dps

[spiral badge]

she's mainly for regular phys

although if you're using VQ and your CE isn't as developed, you may still consider SI

and if you're using CE dps then SI may be considered over TA iirc? Not sure about RS though

if you're using any atypical teams (Elemental, p2, etc) that really needs bleed for the scenario, then SI may be considered too. Just make sure to gear her to fit that team.

[solar drum]

so small griseo and shadow knight together won't work?

[spiral badge]

they don't work together really but if you have a situation that wants alot of bleed trauma or high stacks of it then maybe you can still force in SI anyway

SK does inflict bleed (at higher ranks iirc?) but that doesn't really relate to SI supporting her

[solar drum]

i think SK has a skill unlock at lvl 30 that unlocks bleed

idk if its basic or ult

[spiral badge]

hm normally we assume valks are maxed level in this game

https://i.imgur.com/DGa5UsF.png

seems like ult

[solar drum]

still figuring out a bleed team for abyss

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/Nj2XuyS.png and you want bleed status for SK because of this

or slowed

but forcing SI into the team when SK can do it innately is ofc non ideal

CE does have a very slight lighning buff but she's more awkward to play and doesn't benefit much else either

[solar drum]

are there any obtainable bleed supports atm

[spiral badge]

it's just those two

and vill-v is a fight that emphasizes alot of bleeding status inflicting

or trauma as we call it

perhaps i should elaborate on this

because bleed has like three different things and it's easy to get confused on them all

[solar drum]

so bruteforcing this abyss is hard then

[spiral badge]

you can just stuff SI on to any team

if you don't have a suitable team for SI that is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQrL8TRIho you can see how awawa bruteforces it with a part 2 team, but with SI added in here

[solar drum]

dam a p2w team

and i don't even have RS or JDS

unless i bruteforce it with badum vita sparkle

and even idk if that will work

[ancient needle]

Bleed source is a must here, replace Sparkle with SI

[spiral badge]

Bleed

• Trauma (applying enough of this will causes the bleed status)
• Status (causes a Damage over Time (DoT) to occur while it's active. Also important for some effects. Some bosses may take more damage while bleeding or valks may grant bonus effects)
• Direct Damage (not to be confused with the DoT version. This refers to valks like VQ, LV, or CE that can deal damage that's counted as bleed. Effects that benefits bleed will boost this and these effects are separate modifiers in the formula afaik. Bleed damage isn't melee or ranged either, but can be physical or elemental)

[ancient needle]

Actually, lemme check smth rq

[spiral badge]

it's just an example

the point is if you don't have a typical bleed team, you can use the strongest team you have, then drop someone for SI

[solar drum]

spookle has no bleed support capacity right

[spiral badge]

it'll get alot weaker but it might still be worth it because bleed is kinda needed to progress for that fight

[solar drum]

[spiral badge]

no part 2 valk has bleed yet

[charred basin]

Which weapon should I use for Herrsher of Sentience? (dont have anything else rn) I accidentally got 2 x Torch of Eons (very long ago) but I also have Stellar Vortex and Skoll and Hati

[spiral badge]

||there will be one next patch||

[haughty elbow]

badum sparkle si

[solar drum]

dam and ||sushang|| doesn't release until later

badum leader?

[spiral badge]

they usually do this. Give one last hurrah for content being replaced

[spiral badge]

what role is HoS playing on this team?

she can be a dps or a support. Probably a support if you don't have her brick dkey

but as a support she mainly wants sp restoration

[charred basin]

no brick

[solar drum]

badum leader?

[spiral badge]

none of these weapons really fit what senti wants to do so you might as well put on something that already is built/invested that has the highest attack for now

for rotations you'll mainly expect senti to alternate between her ult and her spear hold attack to impair enemies

[charred basin]

I see

[spiral badge]

worth noting beginners should be given a free nebulous duality which is senti's most generally preferred support weapon

but maybe your account is not that new and you're not willing to restart for it (i wouldn't recommend restarting only for that, esp if your account has vintage stuff that's no longer obtainable)

meta wise senti has kinda lost most if not all of her top niches at this point (still unsure about flying fish but ||upcoming new valk seems capable of handling it||)

[charred basin]

my account is very old but I have most limited valks from part 1 story, just not built/leveled
so I rather just craft some stuff even if it would be for temporary use and not really bis, just wanna have some fun with them

[spiral badge]

do note most of those part 1 valks should now be farmable (expedition, war treasury, asterite shop)

but if it's anything more recent (FoV probably) then that's not farmable yet

[charred basin]

fov?

[spiral badge]

anyway no need to restart then esp just for fun

[rugged compass]

||awww but its stun? :( i guess its sushang dudu and. _ then?||

[spiral badge]

Fenghuang of Vissitude (idr how to spell this) the most recent fu hua

[charred basin]

ah, yeah I have her

[spiral badge]

||dudu inflicts stun yes||

[spiral badge]

you can look up cry andoric's recent beta v3 showcase for this btw

[rugged compass]

||is it enough to beat HoS Dudu/prom HoRb?||

[spiral badge]

idk yet

[rugged compass]

Naw id just be sad cuz i like brick .

[spiral badge]

the weapons are prob available in exchange shop (nebulous is at least) so you can craft foundry weapons (3rd sacred relic is cheapest) to trash for weapon reso to eventually get it that way

but also next patch ||bp is being changed|| so maybe you can find older gears there. Maybe brick eventually

for more details check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[charred basin]

do I need to fully complete battle pass twice to get character from bp shop?

[spiral badge]

getting valks from the bp shop is paid only btw

they're increasing the orb income for paid bp next patch i think so you may want to double check the actual amounts

but yeah generally two patches i want to say?

[charred basin]

[solar drum]

is anything worth getting from the beady giftbox from events

[spiral badge]

this? https://i.imgur.com/ce8qTRS.png

[solar drum]

yeah

[spiral badge]

everything in there is from the asterite shop

[green sail]

How are you able to play together with your friend in hi3? I know they've removed co-op but...is there anything?

[spiral badge]

so check the asterite pin i guess

[green sail]

And when do you unlock friending people I need to tell this to my friend ty

[spiral badge]

events may have pvp/coop or some sort of matchmaking sometimes

[ancient needle]

Vicissitude 🤓

[green sail]

I see as I suspected.

[spiral badge]

otherwise for regular activities coop is no longer a thing

there's more indirect interactions like armada, or borrowing friend leaders for specific modes, or sensei/cadet, sending messages

also sharing invite codes to your new friend

you should be able to add each other asap

[green sail]

😭How do i become his sensei

[green sail]

Wait so just later he does his tutorial?

[spiral badge]

make sure you two are on the same server first of all

so Eu in this case

[spiral badge]

yeah. Or at least i had some fresh players here where i was able to add them immediately

i'm not aware of any level gates although you can check pins here for progression pointers for those

[solar drum]

where do i find it

[thick bolt]

The requirement is to be graduated from your own sensei or be lvl 80 (which is auto graduation) before you can take on cadets

[spiral badge]

anyway on the main menu > lower left for friends > find friends > input their id

to add as cadet, you can click on their profile and then look at upper right for the add cadet option (friending isn't required for this iirc)

oh right i forgot about the sensei side

[thick bolt]

and I forgot the method

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/u9enTH9.png

are you on mobile or pc

it's in the list of links

[green sail]

Tyy

But also sorry for asking so many questions but😭 what are the main sources of getting Asterite

[spiral badge]

uh well you can refer to what i told heez above

that link also links further to an asterite source guide that i wrote

alright heez you get a free pass this time

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

but keep in mind this can also be found in the pins. Lots of general information covered there so do explore it

[green sail]

Tysm

[solar drum]

oh i didn't see it