#👶beginner-help
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but i mean if you're only going for 2% i really think these strats are overkill
this honestly is prob t100 material as lyo stated earlier
well actually idk how EU MA is like. NA is kinda in shambles lol
EU will 100% be dogshit this cycle
In a beneficial way
Theres a lot of stupid people like me on this server who see an awkward boss lineup and either pick the wrong team or don't try cuz its awkward
47616 sounds like you ended at 4:37? I feel you can easily do better, but also you're only going for 2%.
Only a small amount of people actually cares about the leaderboard really
Maybe like 20 or so?
Other peeps just do slack runs
yeah because there isn't really any real reward to MA rankings at this point
Which are enough if you have enough experience
I slacked, forgot my total score but I killed both SSS bosses around 15s or more and was within 1% so you'll easily get 2%
I ended up doing RS JDS HoH and Sparkle Vita HoFi and I think stevie wonder could have outscored me if I gave him my account it was bad
How to check how many contribution i have in armada. and is there any guide to it
39600 on 2nd
Uh theres a leaderboard in the armads interface somewhere, not sure why you care about contribution specifically though?
Oh just want to know about how it works because i contributed yesterday in my armada so wanted to know about what "request" does and how the prize is given
Oh I'm thinking of the wrong thing you mean when you donate items?
yess
Wait I explained badly actually there's two, is it the one where u fulfil armadamates requests for frags and mirage materials etc. or the basic general materials one that lets you do like 8 daily
Either way we don't have a guide for them but I can try and explain how they work
Request sets a mission you can contribute materials to, contribution earned depends on the amount and rarity of the material (written on the request)
The saved rewards is all rng, just higher contribution means higher chance to get what you selected. It's still rng.
Last is the warehouse where you just request or donate materials for yourself specifically to earn armada creds and mats. CD and request cost depends on the mat in question
I'm assuming its the one that has selectable prizes like dorm supply cards
since u mentioned that ^
yes where u get the creds to buy the dorm supply card
ok we good thanks for that
You get armada creds from:
- contributing mats in the armada missions tab
- donating items in the warehouse
- doing sim battles
that's about it
!faq ranger
Hello, Captain! 
Ranger Creds are earned from various Armada-related activities. You can spend them in the Armada Terminal shop!
Recommended purchase priority:
- Dorm Supply Cards (Buy x2 monthly).
- Time Swirl Passes (Mirage Store, buy x2 weekly).
- From here, decide what you need. You can either save for Honkai Shards or buy 6/6 Phase Shifters weekly.
- Advanced Skill Material (Very low priority).
^^ list of stuff to get with the creds still
In warehouse i can request something and others can donate to me? for those ranger creds?
if i have weaponless vita should i go for her weap now or try for fws and probably get her weap if i get her since i already have some pity on weapon banner
yes
You either get Badum and her weap or you skip both
yeah i know
ok and whats the difference between reqesting and submitting here?
And Vita's weap is not as necessary for her to be a good support
i just mean like. since i have pity on weapon banner if i get fws i can also get her weapon
Was just concerned about the "probably" xdd
Ye, go for that
Request triggers one of those missions you can submit materials to
or i can just get vitas weapon and skip fws altogether
Maybe more context about the specifics please to be sure? Xtal count, how far away you are from valk and wep (pity number), whether you're casual etc.
Ah alright thanks
Do you not remember venus 
I don't remember their entire account and how they play but ofc I see them around a lot lol
im a casual now 
I don't even remember breaths account and bro is asking me what to pull 24/7 (ask him if you don't believe me)
i have 10 left until guaranteed weapon and like 80 on valk banner
what is universal mirage? the mode
Well, if you skip Badum you'll have less supps for the unknown AR type
oh shi ill try for her then
And it should be very soon atp (not next patch)
You can find it in the attack menu next to MA, its for farming up materials for foundry stigs and weps
yeah im planning to skip next patch as of now
unless theres another vita rerun in which ill try for the weapon
We have a guide on what to farm via mirage in the pins or I can spoonfeed the faq if you're lazy
my acc lowkey bricked as fuck though since i have 3 weaponless p2 valks now
Im assuming this category here is the start of chapter 2?
. and the category's below it are all from ch 1?
Ya seems reasonable, might want to wait just a little bit longer for any more beta changes though they seem to be making quite drastic changes with that valk in regards to her damage as I'm sure you've seen lol
but 1 of them was just random carnival supply so thats not my fault
yeah im sure itll probably be very different when it finally drops
Exactly, top to bottom its part 2, part 1.5, and part 1
The tab names are way too long to type out
alr ty
If you are interested in the lore its not as simple as just reading the chapters in order so if you want it you can use this reading order recommendation
!faq ro
You can check the Hoyostans reading order as well, afaik the one Lyo linked is no longer being maintained (+ Hoyostans is more complete in general afaik)
I checked with lore channel semi recently they said its fine up until very recent p2 chapters
Which come after all the p1 stuff anyway afaik 
hoyostans in general likes to throw in hg2 stuff so that's an oof
the reading order is more complete though since above doesn't have p2. It's still fine for p1
I'm sure if it was dogshit lore profs wouldn't have it on there as a faq, they do work too xd
is thel sena or song easiest for er rn
alr
Just pick someone you actually enjoy playing or already know the signet build for rather than wasting time learning a new one
Since its cny they just decided fuck it no 30% resistance this patch
Profs? Plural? 
Is there anyone i should be pulling rn ( im level 40 )
!faq pull
Yo, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the pulling priority for this patch!
Keep in mind JDS already left from Carnival supply so if you still have those free tickets Thel is the better choice
too sweaty
Someone said they got her earlier, if that was you I lowkey forgot
I think this is the last carnival supply rotation anyway?
Idk man too stupid for this
Yes, it is
im going to t50 with no trophies for like the 8th time in a row
Clearly you're not ratting hard enough
You need to start copyright striking other peoples refs
You got everyone, makes sense
The strongest rat getting 0 trophies is ironic 
LMFAO
Youtube is too distracted by adblock to care rn
Report peeps to Hoyo for uncapping
And I'm sure you can do something on bili
Week 3-4: MAR 7 - MAR 24❗WE ARE HERE!
Strongly consider rerolling for JDS if you want a jumpstart to the game.
Pull FWS and her wep then save.
Pulling Vita (and wep too if you have the budget) is only a consideration for whales.
Uh do i look at this on that pulling plan assuming the dates
That is indeed why I put a big red exclamation mark there yes
Get Badum + weap and save, free pulls go on Thele
^^
I still can't treat this as arrows 
ok ty
I'll change the stuff regarding carnival when it actually leaves
No point updating it just to have to update it again in like 2 days
is there a way to tell mid er run what difficulty its on? im nervous that i put it too low im clearing too fast
The reroll jds line is still relevant anyway just not on carnival
I actually don't know lol but ER is just THAT easy this version I had the same feeling
iirc yes, by leaving the run and going back in
i tried that and didnt see anything but lemme look again
I'd just stick with it if you don't want the faff, if its the wrong diff you get extra rusted insignias doing 2 runs anyway 
The person that forced us to do multiple runs to max them out is a sick man
Yeahp
I'm glad I finally have a break since they added aponia stamps, I have no reason to buy those
real er sucks
Some people enjoy it 
I love it but I don't love playing it multiple times, mainly due to the sheer amount of loading screens
If they took the need to load into a new floor every single time it'd be way better but eh
Lite made it a lot better at least
sena has me on the edge of my seat with her lack of i frames though LOL
Yeah god I hate sena sm
In ER or in general
in general
She still has her uses but she is falling off
!faq senad
FAQ id:139 tags:honorchip, bparsenal, honor chip
FAQ id:173 tags:avatar, sena, senadina
Should i skip if i can't pull weap
Hello, Captain! 
Despite being able to support all elements + physical, Senadina's supporting capabilities are restricted to teams of the [WS](#👶beginner-help message) and [WoD](#👶beginner-help message) Astral Ring Specializations so she is not recommended. The meta has unfortunately moved on to let newer Astral Ring Specializations shine.
Yeah
Just keep 60 pulls in the tank (or whatever your current weap pity is) and pull the valk with the rest
Yes, you could keep enough crystals to guarantee wep and spend excess on battlesuit supply?
oh fuck i died
Thele was the real broken 👴
O me slow
oml is the restart button new
Thele was goated
thele was goated but ngl i think sena was better at the time. literally could do anything
She's still fucking goated tbh now that HoH dkey is a thing
(DISCLAIMER THAT DOESNT MEAN SHES A GOOD PULL, DON'T)
Thel bruteforced a lot more than sena did it felt like tbh
alr i died again whats going on chat
Yeah, Sena was perceived as crazy support cuz we didn't have any WS DPSes and the rest were WoD
the sena supp was crazier imo
Yeah the supp was wild
Her DPS capabilities were just "good"
or at least people thought it was
I almost crippled my account because I intended to skip her in 7.3
Ainnoway
Hoyo said no and gave her to me in 3 singles that I was spending solely for the spending event
ok deadass how am i supposed to not die
Don't use sena?
idk why i chose her bruh
sena lacks invulnerability frames
but in ER you should be doing enough damage not to worry about it >.>
br moment
You will stay in Nirv
ok finally god
arent you in eu
Yeah
freelo
Nirv is a lot more sweaty now
Not free
what.
I skipped badum
thought p2 was killing the game
You need myriad to retain nirv these days
damn
Or at least very close
When everyone has P2 everyone is strong
^
true but i thought the game was losing enough players to make up for that
Assembling teams is a lot easier too
Retaining flux is impossible without badum (or whale ass ranks, which I obviously do not have)
yeahh
Getting less obvious atp 🗿
Bruh how
speaking of fws im pleasently surprised they went back to the battlesuit system
I don't even have all p2 valks
Whaling up for dkeys, for example? 
Yeah its for HoV
Well, RS is for HoV as well xdd
before teri i really thought they were just gonna release new characters every patch
If I really whaled I wouldn't have had to skip FWS to get that
i don't know man https://i.imgur.com/axz4WPn.png
the nirv situation in NA is getting out of hand lol

also you can see a case of 5th and 6th tie-ing here lol
Less peeps means that Nirv will get more sweaty actually
anyway sorry for the sudden nirv talk in beginner help
Cuz sweats stay for the most part
70th currently
oh valid
Yeah less peeps mean there's just less Nirv brackets
i mean. no beginners here rn
except for me 
So you're more likely to get the hardcore sweats
yeah im never touching nirv again ngl
Cuz they spent too much time/money to quit lol
that's not really a justification to me tbh since people can lurk or get wrong conclusions on early vs late priorities
also some people are very shy or considerate that they would wait for conversations to die down before posting too
Its not worth the effort tbh especially with the way NA is rn
valid
some conversation is ok as it can lead to exploring the game but nothing too extended out of topic imo
Yeah agree
ER guide for Elysia with new gear please
should work the same way (at least ult build was basically the same)
check the ER guide in the pins. It's been updated with the new ely
ok i won but i had to be an actual dodge god against these bosses holy
All of this finna go over my head. But basically mirage is the farming of stigmas?
hey what would you advise if i have all besides that elf like is ranking up better than wasting to get a 2 star elf so what would do if you had this option i can't decide and pretty sure this is last bp cycle ?
And weapons
But its mainly for stigs yes
Good thing I didn't bother much after matching the ref I was following. No Dudu or sparkle is too cooked for me
How do u get prisms?
Starter Manual, events, MA
!faq prism
Hi, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!
Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).
Salvaging dupe stigs as well
Actually even if I somehow followed awawa's songque ref, I wouldn't retain 
prisms are so fried
so i looked in the pins about war treasury, and it says "Unlock FR/MC (ER+Stress Test) > Meme/SK/MPE/VE/VKE/SN/HoR/6S/AKA (ER)"
FR its fallen rosemary?
yes
and what should i buy, character card or fragments?
card
Which Valkyrie should I pick?
Ayo wtf was that
Check the first pin here
seems like we need a mod in here
Thanks
hopefully it stops now. I've reported it
Who is it?

let's just move on please
Yeah
Does it matter? Defo not a person that's actually active here
Anything in particular you're confused about?
Yes, Everything about it.....
ok so in the radiant jade store there is anniversary pack that you can pick fragments of valk
is it ok to pick there FR?
no. I have a guide in the pins for this
ok thx
the valk fragment box is arguably one of the worst options there since most things there are farmable in the War treasury shop and none of the valks are going to be competitive in the meta at this point
Oh
oh ok i see
short answer, prioritize elf box, or HoRb valk if you can afford her. But don't roll more than you need to this patch trying to get something from that shop
Essentially all valks except SW are farmable from WT (they're not to actually use, the "War Treasury" pin covers that) (SW will become farmable soon as well), while the affix rerolling devices are not
SW?
silverwing bronya. In the future use the glossary in the pins to look up abbreviations
Affix rerollers matter only when you are at least in lvl 81+ Redlotus, so just keep the box for now
what is it base and awakened valk? i forgot..
it's not really important nowadays. It's just that some older valks are awakened where they stem from a separate valk and share skills with them. They also have different amounts to what they need to upgrade (but everything scales to roughly the same amount)
Thank you. I'm really sorry but I stopped playing this game for a very long time ago. So Imma need a tons of information and explaination.
But thanks anyways
we understand that. just make sure to make use of the resources we direct you to as well
Are you on a new acc or on your old one?
Im on my other account
im really confused with who to pick...
from what exactly?
i think i should just wait for now..
And how old is it?
from what to pick there. i think i will just save for herrscher of rebirth
you saw me say this earlier right?
but yeah you can wait for now especially if you're still spending crystals rolling in this patch
beware the spending event doesn't last the entire patch
make sure you keep track of its end date and to spend your annulons before it expires
that i didnt saw im sorry
ok well now you do. Don't worry about it
and yeah, i saw about the spending event
it does get hectic in the help channels when multiple topics are going on
Dayum
Well, it would be best if you show your valks + weaps + stigs (purple and golden stuff is enough)
It might be better to make a new one if you're willing to
okie, please wait
wow!
@spiral badge go flex your days
what why
Here's some of the valks
For Azday
1000 days is enough on its own to deserve its own kudos
Trust me, I don't know anything about them
i would be an ass to stomp all over it lol
Oh dayum, I thought that by "very long while ago" you meant like at least a year
Anyway, it's stacked, keep it ofc
That's when my information stopped updating.
should i finish the whole story of the game or jump as fast as i can to the events?
dam wonder why they did that spying on me only noticed today
The Blood Moon event is not related to the main story at all, while the other one is mostly based on the story of another event (though it does take place in the main story, so there are some story spoilers)
longest 4 minutes ever
Defo do the Blood Moon one, and for the other it's up to you to decide
the drums cause its only 2 button presses
If you've finished Part 1 story (up to Chapter 35) you're 100% gtg
Thank you
space bar and I
well thank god for lite mode otherwise would be even worse
Do they have their sig weaps btw? I hope you didn't skip them 
The P2 valks I mean
let's see
I guess my Vita & Senadina need some upgrade?
Not having Vita's and Sena's is not ideal, but still pretty stacked
Don't go for them atp tho, not worth
atp?
At this point
Ah
They can use Sparkle's if it's not occupied
For Sena support her weapon isnt really that impactful, for vita support it's not ideal but it works I guess
i see , thanks
The valks that feel insanely clunky without weapon or loose some pretty niche features all have their weapons overall pretty nice acc
But I'm not pretty sure if I still can keep this up tho.
With my very lack of information and interest. I guess I can still play this game for fun
can someone explain how i can claim anniversary rewards?
so im 2/3 for these but i havent gotten the weapon yet, do i just pick the odd one out now? does it matter?
It doesn't really matter
Which ones specifically?
aight tyty
hey so i asked this earlier but seem it was missed and i'm so bad at deciding what i should do with currency in this game so i don't own the physical elf on bp but would only be 2 star and i have the 4 star durandal one i have ss truth and s3 dreamweaver but can get to ss with bp pass anyway and i will show you what i mean at bad at deciding lol what would you do on bp
like i saw on the app store get s rank battle suit and x10 carival battle suit etc
how to claim?
also i just started today
The battlesuit one is a login reward, gotta login for 7-8 days (idr the exact number)
The Carnival Supply pulls you should just get straight away (you might need to get to ~lvl 30 to unlock all banners and events)
if i dont get badums weapon do i just save until her rerun?
also any tips on who i build and use for future
ah ok, i don't see any indicator on x amount of days
Check the first pin for the box, and the best pick for Carnival is Thelema
I crafted a new weapon for her now, maybe this made her better (?)
Carnival unlocks at lvl 15 to be exact
But Imma leave the stigmata the way it is
wait is it this
Nah, it's an upgrade material
Anyway, I suggest you just play the game for a bit for now
Where's the key?
For what to pull you can check the pins
ok thx for info
This is a good general starting point for reading the pins: #👶beginner-help message
It's probs better if you play for at least a day first
oh also any pulls i should not spend crystals on? im not too sure how pulls work here but ive been playing hsr recently
How do i swim there then?
Every language role has
wait really?
What to spend crystals on is covered in the msg I linked, everything else is not considered a good idea to invest them into
Yup
Regions still have colors lah
They still exist but now language roles also have colours
Anyone know how to get the chest here?
is there a priority for which to craft first? i think ill be saving for badums weapon banner if i dont hit it before it ends so what should i do? i can craft 1 rn
Well, I assume you got her from Carnival
In that case she's useful only as a support, and her supporting effects are in the 3pc
sooooo
Essentially it's all or nothing
aight
and im assuming thats what i do? if i dont hit badums weapon i just save for her rerun? since i got all her stigmas anyway
Her weap might not be worth getting at that point, make sure to ask again
I muted myself tinkering with my roles

Tbh I'm not sure how important it is for support Badum
really? how long should it take for her rerun? 6 months plus?
Next version probably
Not even close, she might rerun next patch
Can I start playing the part 2 story with no/minimal spoilers? Cause to progress the beginner bonus checklist it wants me to play chapter one
It's likely that you'll skip the 8.2 valk, in that case grabbing her weap is very considerable
might be worth getting then if i dont hit in the current run
Those chapters are not connected to P1 yet later on they will but starter manual does not force you to do these
Yeah, you're gtg, just stop at the shards chapter
Ok thanks yall!
That's when P1 and P2 fully connect
Absolutely stupid, I finished at 11 and I would’ve retained if I was a minute earlier
I've had 2 open every week with APHO P2 being 1 always and 1 of my choice.
But now APHO P2 isn't open by default?
what am i picking from this btw
Check pins
Yep, you get a two week free trial access
I've had P2 open for well over a month and was doing APHO P1 as well
Hmm
I think for apho 2 it may be because when you hit level 20 it closes
What apho 2 adventure level are you?
APHO2 is "open" indefinitely until you unlock the actual tasks (which require stamina)
Then the 2 week countdown starts
Also Adventure level is shared between all OWs 
Like I said I've had it for like 3+ weeks doing that and others (APHO P1 and Schicksal HQ)
3+ weeks with actual tasks? That give non-APHO mats and stuff?
Yeah

Well, either your internal clock is off or that's a recent change, cuz it's the first time I hear about that
I take it I'm only meant to have 1 of these?
Weird cause I've done APHO P1 like 3 times or more and HQ last week
Well double
Let's goooo
dupes = salvage?
Correct, they are functionally useless for any other valk
what am i supposed to get with these btw
Just save in the first case, you wanna prioritize actually good stamps (I don't think you have either of these valks) and the affix boxes
For the spending event it's best to assess when you're actually done pulling
aight
ill just msg again before that event ends ig
Yeah, good idea
I'm gonna cry
I'm 20 away from Kiana weapon this can't be real
I wasted all my luck on zzz
the game made me go to 5 remaining pulls on her banner 💀
yes ofc
Does character banner pity carry to next banner?
Depends on the banner, but the main banners (battlesuit supply and equipment supply) will carry over their pity
What is the mode realms of battle? should i be doing it at my level
Bunch of mini game modes that rewards you with dkeys if not already obtained, dkey upgrade materials, and pri arm upgrade materials
If possible do it when it resets every week
Do keep in mind that the 5 dkeys obtainable from realms are where you'll obtain your ice fire and physical gene limits from, you still need to make pos/judah for lightning gene limit
Uh how often do u get those tickets with white we can just do quick lite? should i be using them :/ too much or they're obtainable pretty easily
Uhhh you get them quite regularly, and so far I see my current stash of it increasing though some claim that it's slowly decreasing
Id say use it sparingly prioritising time consuming content
i just used my tickets on quick lite the realms of battle lmao thats why was asking wondering if it was right
alr ty gotchu
am i right?
I understood that i need to wait with this box until i'll have a need for affix device or just unlock for a valk that in ER.
I didn't understand moment "your account is more established"
By more established it means that you have a good amount of valks where the decision you have to make is between fewer valks
As for the affix device, it's a relatively pointless item until later where that extra attack can help achieve a higher score in abyss
Hence using the box for valks you can't obtain at the moment or saving it incase it proves useful in the future
what can i do as a beginner to help me on abyss :/
Which one is Duran’s Bis?
damn,it's hard to decide. Cuz i have only 2 valks from this box at the same time i want to take one of those valks(honestly i have like 6 valks i want to take) ;-;
at the same time i have this
and i don't know what to choose from this egg
!faq egg
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!
Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.
Actually neither of these usually, Vita is kinda slow in LoA so either Badum or JDS ends up better in most scenarios
So the usual ones are Du-Dum-Spar?
It depends on the boss tbh
so it's just means to wait until i get any of those who in the egg
haha cat lyo
Wat
haha cat lyo
Wat
😆 🐈 🇱 🇾 🇴
How did u not get cabbaged
yes
best team for this abyss if no dudu?
hofi dkey should be 2nd best right
or is the -50% lightning too much on the overall team dps
idh trio on sea lol
pe probs second best tbh
insane
pe hrb rs duh
Xdddd
no dudu mf
ig hofi dkey it is
Gl waiting for ult cd I doubt you can oneshot it with PE in this D
-50% lightning dmg tho
anyw im hella washed dont ask me
AF PE we are so back
im now a valo/gta player
try hofi dkey
Ew
i took 2 -100s in a row on sea 😔
No
aight
You don't have the right weapon to craft solon
And this would be a waste of pri matz imo
aight
She'll still be useful in the short term at least, I imagine you have JK RC at the minimum?
idk the abbreviations for these newer characters, i just have these
The one on the far right is RC, JK is from trainkng shop for 1 ticket
theres a glossary in the pins
For now you can use the two on the far right with your HoH, should be pretty nice for MA
Just wondering if HoHE is the only one who has unique victory background
I've -200 every single one
I actually never noticed lol
the rest dudu still did okish
but then last weather my dudu legit was doing worse than viuta
Not enough to retain without giga ranks or a bracket full of single celled organisms
im talking about rl lmao
Oh xD
i demoted on both my accs in rl just cos no kia
In that case yeah
Welp time to see how next Abyss goes 
Surely jds let's me promo to nirv and not -100 
This abyss is so paper... 
Old boss 
so youre saying this and then replace the right one with jade knight after i get her ?
and give em f2p gear is fine?
It was paper when PE released as well tbf
Yes
tyty
Wouldn't kira > rc if both are ungeared and unranked
or is this to just help sp problems
Depends what you are referring to as f2p gear, please don't go crafting willows for HoH lol just use scott and basic support setups
!faq fhm
I got this, Captain! 
Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!
is there anyway to get Mobius signature weapon without the banner?
literally blue tier shit XD no extra crafting
A Kira too painful
Let's see if my full support team can at least retain 
||new battle pass system|| rn no
dawei card
LOL
Not wrong
If they do another mini spending event soon a mini dawei card would work also
||8.2 right?||
Just use the dkey on her, no point getting her weapon (trust me on this one)
Judah would be ok actually lol
Oath of judah is literally as good as her pri unironically
(Slightly less performance, but it's not like she can preform right now anyways
)
It was better in some scenarios 
Was it? Judah players never scored higher than me, then again it's eu so what would I know 
Should i take the L if i have no physical dps this cycle? Can it be bruteforce with fws?
I'm getting atleast 100-150 score difference
You'd have to try and check if anyone posted any p2 teams as a ref for brute forcing
Although i do wonder if horb dps or jds dps would preform better 
preform
Perform* my fucking bad
Gonna attempt HoRb DPS when that comes around 
Oh fuck wait if I promote I'm gonna be playing trio with no hoo gear next weather, maybe I take the L 

Surely mag typhoon and aslaug tmb good cope 
can I just convert this to weapon resonance or is there any other use to old hofi weapon?
you pri-ed it so you can't salvage it anymore

now level it to 65 so its gold
@ancient needle this you?
should i be able to clear this difficulty ? dont have her weap tho
No weap is a massive oof, but it should be doable
I'd go for 2.25 tho, 2.5 is not necessary
Hello, after i get helia from the shop i should go for Coralie right?
ive seen clears naked so u be fine
Doable and easily are two different things. Doable is even without wep on any difficulty.
That's the case for every p2 valk

Unlock her valk from part 2 chapter 1, including her hammer
Already got her, what's next
okay who else you got?
Without you cooperating, I can only point you towards the pins
Thanks
as for stigma
I pretty much have anchora from a lucky pull, and songque 
These names need a lecture

type them in #wiki-consult with !stigmaname T/M/B and you get the description for them
just click thru ur stigmata/foundry ez
Yeah but I'll be crafting without knowing what this used for or where
there is a link to beginner teams that you can build
I mean, the stigma does describe it's uses, it's cheap because it only has a specific targetted use and does not cost a lot of resources to craft them.
It seems that they don't give HoV and idk who else from the guide because im 4 days in, and still nothing
Only thing cheap is the ones that requires purple cube 
And i doubt they're useful considering it's cheap
I mean, they got their uses
I won't bother with stigmas currently, because I don't even have a valk with her wep yet
Glutt T Musician MB is still regarded as one of the best support stigma option for any situation, specifically targetted for beginners and transitional period
the ones with SS Imaginon costs are also cheap, you get plenty for free from p1 Story
Gluttony T especially
Yup I won't bother with this matter, it's too early anyways
They're mostly there for cheap support buffs rather than DPS stuff. I wouldn't disregard them entirely in your options
What is RC and TA ?
the glossary is in pins
Reverist Calico (Pardofelis) and Terminal Aide (PROMETHEUS)
!faq spoonfeed
Oh felis
just for the time being on the first kind of question
afterwards I would've referred to the glossary too
Is there a place that i can get HoV?
Because apparently it's not a "2d day log in"
should be Starter Manual login event though
Go through all menus, you migjt see her
The only thing that gives a free valk is the 2025 valk chest
if not, i'll check in a bit for you. i have an alt for that
Nothing else
Do you have Starter Manual? The book in the middle of the main menu
Lobby screen?
Nope
Welp, that's the reason
If you're very new I strongly suggest you make a new acc
Starter Manual is very important and helpful
ah so that's why
starter manual is mostly an amazing headstart for newer accounts
without it, your progression is needlessly slow
not new if you dont have starter event
Sometimes Starter Manual just doesn't trigger for whatever reason
Or maybe you made the acc a while ago and forgot about it alr
most likely that you made it before and just play it now
You can also try switching the server to NA, but ofc the reset times could be annoying in that case
Nope I'm 100% sure i made the acc new a couple days ago and linked it google just to make sure it's split
Because i played the story from the beginning
When i first logged in
saw this happen with a few others unfortunately
say, what does the login card under ai-phone > login say?
Wow what a pleasant start
It's not available until lvl 60
Bruh
you start from this step?
It must be created with a hoyo acc???
Well, not necessarily
And it's called a starter manual?
Yes
It appears in the bottom middle of the main menu right after the tutorial
I made two accounts, the other one did appear, but this one not
should start from some kind of registerring
not necessarily, but if you dont, high chance that you registerred the account before
No i told you i played the story from pont 0, where i had the tutorial for kiana
just in case this helps I'd contact support with the steps mentioned in #how-to-contact-cs Make sure to mention your date of account creation if you remember and any other relevant details
I'd love to have this fixed
have you ever downloaded hi3 before this
Yeah at 2022 i have a lv85(capped at 80) didn't breakthrough acc 
there's a chance that you might've created the new account back then but simply just didn't do anything to it
check your emails for an account creation mail
so when you login this time, it counted as a 'new' when it's actually old
that should be a good indicator
I just did a log in, not a whole new email linkin process
hey I'm new here, do i spend my carnival supply ticket? and which one do i spend it on?
that doesnt matter, the problem is when you create the account with the email
But the acc is totally new because as i said i played the story from the scratch so the acc wasn't made before
A or B? I don't really get the differenece
there's no chance that you might've rerolled or accidentally registered your current new account back then?
because new account will 100% get the starter manual
The date of the email shows when the account is considered as created though 
It's a simple detail, unrelated to what you remember
I didn't get any emails, because it was just a regular google-login
Well yeah then why did the other acc get a starter manual even though i logged in the same way?
one account reached the point when starter event start to count, one didnt
should i use the anniversary valk box + spending event frag boxes to rank up HoT to SSS or unlock+rank up IO or HoFs or someone to SS
hi reika
do you have sw
better spend it on A imo and only the tickets
fuck
check pins if you haven't
wdym
what is your goal with that
-
save the box for the 23x2 device if you’re meta
-
unlock a valk that’s in er + stress test if you havent owned her instead
collection
unless you really like those valk, just keep the box
all of the valks in the box are farmable aside from sw so
and use spending currency on something else
alr then
oh wait he’s asking abt the spending box not the 2025 box
reika im sorry
literally your fault btw
owh
is there a diff? how do i tell which is better
the difference is the valk
the difference is A has thelema as rate up, while B has theresa
nvm apologies retaken
sorry im new,
what are you sorry for
im just telling you what the difference is
just one can be better than the other, just can be btw
both are bad without weapons and supports and both are not worth pulling for atp, just one is abit more worth it for you to use the free tickets on for the chance of you getting her
ignore all the A rank valks on that banner, they’re dogshit
@odd plume I made a whole new acc, what are the reset times for servers? Because im not really good at understanding GMT 
ok... im using b ranks lol
with full gear, yes
without gear in your case, it's kinda more complicated, but you dont expect much from them, just use the ticket on thelema and wait till you can get her wp by other mean
dont pull for thelema with your crystals if you dont get her btw
alr thx
which server
SEA?
A thing to test nonetheless, I'll try doing a google login account at some point. If this results in no starter manual I'll make a bug report
I had to re-create a whole acc i hope it's a bug
Yeah i wish i could play on sea
@amber finch u suck tbh
Resets early in my timeline
just download sea client
oo we have cn jp and kr now
How?
what the fork
where you download the game?
it has option to download other server
mf why ce of all valks
what other phys dpses do i hv tbh
fair
ta hrb rs was smth i dint wanna cook either
you dont have song and hoh dkey?
also idh hrb sig so crit dpses arent rly a thing
i do?

im just tryna have fun dawg
idk thought ur still meta n stuffs
thanks for reminding me i hv sonk tho
Im literally just looking at two servers option only, not downloading no nothing
you wish you wouldn't play in SEA server
Idc tbh, im not invested in the game to worry about competing anyways
I just want faster reset time
if you’re using the ingame menu then you’d only see two options being na and eu
Yeah 
you cant download cilents inside of a cilent
Then how can i download a client outside a client
literally just go on the official hoyo website or just use a custom launcher in #🔌technical-help pins yes its safe blah blah

I thought it's just a couple in-game clicks, ill just go play on NA
Thanks for the info
sea and glb are different servers so you cant cross play
So I missed free HoHu cuz i kinda took break from the game and her dkey. I have hofi and am planning on getting her dkey. I have HoTr already and her gear. I can get HoHu from the 15 dollar box in the shop but I also don't have HoO and she is also in the box as an option. Who would be better to choose? If i choose HoO for trio can I even get her wep?
the best option is to not get anyone
are you sure you want to get any of them? hoo without gears is depressing even with hofi buffing her to oblivion, hoh with dkey is still niche as hell and you’d want to have thel + sena/vita to support her
15 irl dollars for a couple of pixels you barely get to see on screen aint worth it ngl
hofi dkey isn't worth getting anymore as she's niche, hohe not worth without dkey and we don't know when is her rerun, and HoO weapon can't be acquired anywhere
I do have thel nd vita geared already. I wasn't aware she was niche I assumed oh new dkey for her she must be amazing but I guess not 
are the discounted beginner banners worth pulling?
no
||or just wait for the new sushang? ||
spoiler that and we’d need more info abt it so wait
the dkey is good, but you can't get it therefore getting her from 15 dollar box isn't worth it
and it was another email still?
or the same one
Brand new email and linked it to a new hoyo acc made it just now
Nothing old at all both are new
If i got Thelma or whatever her name is, should i get her wep or forgot about it? Since its a couple days before banner is over
Oh wow really 😔 the only part 2 valks i have r vita, thele, sparkle, nd sleepy terri. Should I not bother for her dkey then?
yes skip it
the problem is that dkey rerun might take forever (hofi for example, she got one in 7.8 and rerun is in 8.1)
which? theresa?
and by the time hofi dkey is being rerun, it's not worth it anymore
Oki hofi dkey rerun not worth
That was short lived 😭
Maybe i shouldn't of gotten her from the spending event then 
it's not that you shouldn't have gotten her
hofi dkey is still good
its just not worth investment anymore
more like you should've gotten her dkey when it's first released
but like what can you do, too late to regret, time to move on to the new valk
Yea i didn't realize how important back then 
Yeeah
I did get Luna crimson vow from the returnee banner from the daily free wishes is that anything to be excited about?
uhh no weapon no stigmata then no
Free ER crystals
just the valk alone is nothing to be happy about since it'll never see any use except ER
and collection i guess
There is the returnee banner for it but old banner so scam
lol
I think hofi dkey is worth considering when it comes back next week, both for the permanent account atk and because you have vita, who needs hofi dkey to perform well as dps
Is getting the horebirth from the spending event worth? She will probably be getting dkey soon since it was the same w kiana?
we don't know whether she will be getting dkey or not
might as well get her if you happen to have enough currency for it
she isn't a priority like hofi was
I just want my sparkle team to be stronger 🥹
yeah she's probably the best to get out of anything from the spending event
👌👌
tbh I would argue that if you really want hofi dkey that much, you can go for it, since you're in NA server
as someone who plays in SEA server, backpulling is not recommended at all whatever the circumstances are, unless you don't care about abyss
my judgement might be biased because new valk is almost a must for me, even in the lower tier
I don't get it, what will happened to the crystallums i got from this season? Cant i use them next version anymore?
Like it cannot be converted to new ones like before?
it's always been that you can convert new to old, not old to new
next patch you can still use them in vintage shop to buy current stuff
Okii because ive been seeing people suggesting to use them up this patch
for the seven thunder dkey weapon I guess
if you have enough to buy what you want now, might as well, nothing more is going to be added for the current crystallum
Yah i got this one already😊
Yea I totally understand that. in other gachas if miss a wep I'm okay waiting for a rerun. Just feels a lot worse in this game comparatively
yeah hsr knowledge doesn't work here
weapon is a must when they first released, and pulling for rerun is not recommended as it might brick your account if you're going competitive
Nah i don't think I'd be able to keep up competitively 😅 I play all the hoyo and kuro gachas already nd the main reason I started investing was the sparkle collab. Since I got her I don't feel like I have much other goals in the game rn other than improving on her team.
if you want to improve her team, it's her as a support more than her as a dps
yes I know, but her being support is much more frequent than her as dps for abyss lol
True, it depends on the specific goals atp
Vita would be dps if sparkle support?
Sparkle can't support Vita
Vita's support lineup is fixed (HoFi with dkey + Coralie)
either reign solaris or fiery wishing star as dps
Or ||Sushang|| in 8.2
You can do Sena/SImp DPS as well but they're harder to get and are not as good
hofi dkey current worth is for vita dps team, herrscher trio team (but you don't have HoO weapon)
do not get simp ever
waste of crystals 
I wish I got into this game sooner 😭 I need more time to save crystals to be able to plan pulls
how many memory fragments do i need for full upgrading valk in ER?
damn,that's a lot
it's a pain when you need to max level the weaponless and stigmaless valks lol
but crystal source is still crystal source
for UP valk, you need 2x void after shallows
for other valks, 2 void 2 shallow
with LITE, probably faster to do first boss, go to shop, go to level after that, and quit
not sure how many that gives
yes it is, i have pardo and raven to level up from 8 to 15 :DDD
Is there anyway i can do abyss and shud focus on a team
!faq fhm
I got this, Captain! 
Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!
uhhh not abyss with your current situation
way too low level
what level does abyss unlock at again
I can level my character till 42
oh
Anything below 50 is fine, above it takes too much resources to be worth rn
So should i spend on my hov?
don't have anything else?
as u can see no i already posted
I thought there's still something above it lol my bad
uh what about thiss? or shoudnt bother abt it rn
ignore it
Yes, but the impact is significantly more minor
Don't bother with them for now
Especially on copium gear
kk
only do that when you want to push endgame ranking
I wish it was even more minor than it is now 😔
Here's general affixing info if you're curious: #👶beginner-help message
so apparently i can get 60-80 crystals for every one of Higokumarus level ups after level 10 but i dont know the amount required and the amount i can get per one task
60 crystals for each level
The levels are fine till lv 16 but scale massively in the exp requirements after level 20 taking multiple weeks.
Crystal tasks are usually 70 crystals but you can get an 80 crystal one if the mission is EX rank
thank you very much
ghelp me plz
pretty sure i need ot get outside from this door on the left from the castle entrance but i dont have the key?
bro come on i didnt know u could jump down that cliff
im dead.
is there a priority for levelling these? since i cant max em all out rn
im actually crashing out theres NO WAY
keep them level, prio T -> B -> M
aight
The logic behind keeping them matching is that it costs 1, 2 and 4 prisms respectivly for the 35, 40 and 45 bottlenecks
If you only have 7 prisms better to have 2 at 45 and one at 40 than just 1 at 50
aight
is there a guide for what to get from the bp orb shop?
do you have the seven thunders of retribution sword from BP?
if no than I advise you to get it
it's a divine key and give +10 ATK universally
joined at the start of part 2 so i don't haha
thanks
What team can I pair for Elysia, mini durandal, Vita, songque?
I don't have songque and mini durandal weapon yet
any other p2 valks?
well you're gonna need vita anyway
if it's for superstring abyss than I'd recommend having either songque or dudu
I dont have her but I think vita/dudu/ely team better, I can't try out myself tho
since dont have her

alright
I'd recommend to ask some one who knows better tho
which one should i choose
meh I'd take ether but keep the thing for now
the rest are more easily farmable
Okay still thanks alot, I think this might just temporary team for a month or two
np, I'll help the best I can
the middle one since it can convert to the right one (via mirage shop iirc) but not vice versa
middle one is mainly used in exchange shop while right one is used to craft high graded/cost (G3/4) stigmatas. Neither are very notable nowadays since these are all outdated/niche stigmatas at this point.
I'd still take ether fuel tho
I dont see why a newer player would want to buy stigs
for now
new player can buy ether fuel via training shop
wait that existed?
yes 
damnit what tf was I doing back then
also technically speaking, a new player would benefit more from stigs like mei beach m and newt b as early cope stigs

I see u have a point but the 5-star craftable can do the job for that unless they want RL in Q-manifolds ig
or high DMG in general
Sairaan wtf are u cooking

how familiar are you with the process of part 2 team building? Would you like me to send a few indepth resources?
Without the valkyrie's signature weapon, generally don't expect them to main dps very well. In other words don't use them as a leader.
Vita main dps highly desires HoFi with her dkey. Do you have that?
Otherwise you can try HoHE dps with Vita as breach support (triggers via her ult) and either songque or durandal as supports for now.
- Possibly songque since her buffs trigger merely from QTE. I'm not familiar with durandal though but you can prob find the condition to it in her stigs 3pc effect.
- Beware HoHE's highly desires thelema for her matchups so don't expect amazing results. I don't recommend backpulling thelema at this point either. Use your roster to the best you can for now.
by that time they'd have their banner s rank and would use that + cora, last unit can use glut t beach m newt b 
although technically depending on the unit, fhm mb might be better
Ether fuel is already part of the obtained rewards though. It's fuel plus either one of the two on the right of it
if they experience in gacha yeah(I didn't)
skill issue

i hate that phrase lol. Becareful of saying that here
we used to have one somewhat regular person that would say that as a legit sole response to unfamiliar players and that was all they would say
ofc, just saying it as a joke towards the more experienced player
well I dont realy build the old valks since my best is in P2
yeah i understand in this context
well u see I have a life so it's your skill issue
who says I dont got one either 
i don't 
I can see that


seriously the man types ESSAYS per message like HOW
respect
Experience and wanting to get the whole concept in on one go
also from typing actual essays :V
well ye obviously
btw there can be very rare scenarios where a p2 valk uses old p1 gear. But this is mostly qua teri stuff
WAIT THAT HAPPENS
Ok I'm a noob now wtf
why tho?
it happens when u need teri for starless
didnt the opposite also apply? like p1 units using sena m
Mostly qua teri p1 team uses
zeno recently got added this patch to foundry. Zeno TM teri B is actually best for her p1 personal damage.
pool Mei M was used in an SSS Heim strat
Paga M and Tband M are possible picks too in abyss.
no
that's super budget cope purposes
sena m was never good its just cope
or ER like ram
m is a hard slot to fill in early on meaningfully
and sena m gives team increased weapon elemental damage
ic
uc?
anyway other cases of p2 valks using p1 gear is really just zaychik TB because of its passively refreshable uptime. Again teri and i think sena made use of this
I hated this anime
but anyway overall these cases are rare. Just be sure to keep in mind it's possible and something to keep a stock of resources for
ok prof

good to know.... 
let's not digress lol
did you have a question about this? You can prob find some f2p guide on youtube. Otherwise keep in mind the rewards to this aren't high and it's permanently available. You can leave it alone for now if you're struggling badly until your account develops more later.
it would be pretty weird if i was in #off-topic-discussion :V
u alr get fuel
the choice is between reso and convection
ok bo'O WatAh






good question





