📿gacha-salt🧂

[neat thistle]

Wtf, I got Lantern + wep using barely any pulls so I decided to throw 15 pulls at the event supply and got both Sirin wep and AI wep. I see where my luck went during the last three patches, it was all saved for this one. Which means next patches will be hell

[dry valve]

[ornate bolt]

[river perch]

[raw geode]

[uneven heart]

[thin tulip]

[dapper hearth]

[quaint thistle]

[rustic rose]

no

i shant countinue the trend

[ornate bolt]

breath dammit

https://tenor.com/view/akari-akaza-akarin-yuru-yuri-gif-14340279

[river perch]

[rustic rose]

[cedar nest]

I got returnee event and i just did a pull WHY DOES MY LUCK NOT WORK WHEN IT NEEDS TO

[crude timber]

Thats rough buddy

[small raft]

[sharp vault]

Guys, could this be a glitch? I was at the limit to get last crystals from ER and possibly get in 10 pulls her weapon, since its all I needed. Could it be actually 14 until guaranteed or jut the usual 60?

[quiet ruin]

the pity carries over

once you get the weapon, the pity resets

if you don't, it'll just carry over to the next equipment supply

[sharp vault]

Oh so I do have 14 until guaranteed and the game isn't playing some trick on me.

[rugged steppe]

Yup

[quiet ruin]

yea they aren't

[sharp vault]

Nice

[quiet ruin]

[sharp vault]

Ty tho

[analog mango]

damn u ai-chan

[thorny hinge]

I need the weapon not this shit are u fkn kidding me I had her full stigma since her first banner

[pine holly]

Nahh

[loud chasm]

Last minute lol

[fallen aspen]

EH!?!?!?!?

also sadly i didn't get thelema card

[river perch]

Why'd you pull for weapon if you didn't get the card

[fallen aspen]

i'm not sure why myself

my brain was going too fast

was planning to spend some money but my card got declined on mobile too!

[river perch]

[fallen aspen]

yeah there's been issues with my card lately

like it got declined on both pc and my tablet even though I just got the money on the same day

[river perch]

Can't buy Google play card?

[fallen aspen]

i have ipad

[river perch]

apple card?

[fallen aspen]

maybe I should do that

last minute resort

[fallen aspen]

gift card didn't even work

[crystal ridge]

i stole all of it

funding my choco bread addiction

[fallen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

but,,,, my sweet thelema

[crystal ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-dance-gif-18914282

[fallen aspen]

yknow what maybe hoyo is telling me to stop spending money,,, yeah that's why they declined my card

[crystal ridge]

so true

[fallen aspen]

mhm definitely not the card company PREVENTING ME from getting my woman

(I'M SCREAMING ON THE INSIDE)

[river perch]

She's playing hard to get

[fallen aspen]

THELEMA PLS I LOVE YOUUU

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-fainting-desmaio-mad-crazy-gif-6971696022815179065

I SHALL SUBMIT AND GIVE YOU EVERY SINGLE COLLECTION OF PLUSHIES I HAVE

THE RICHEST APPLE JUICE THERE IS

[fathom charm]

U can technically farm until last day
And then swipe card
That would save great amount of money

[fallen aspen]

the card company is declining access to hi3

plus I'm still tehcnically in early stages ig (idk where I'm at) but i feel like I won't make it

gonna faint,,,,,

the curse of trying to pull on the first day

[fathom charm]

The company is telling u to save money for greater things
Or spend less

[fallen aspen]

they know I spent the highest top ups for genshin and hsr,,,,,

mainly cursed me with the furina rerun,,,

[river perch]

Wallet consumed entirely by hoyoverse

[fallen aspen]

and being held hostage by that forsaken card issuer company

starting today I shall start saving

(and ditching the game for a whole year until I recover)

[hardy lotus]

I'm never visiting this chat again

[drowsy zephyr]

what the heckkk

thelema's forehead is bigger than mount rushmore

[tacit cliff]

HELP

[noble pendant]

Only took 2 ten pulls

[rustic rose]

welp there goes your luck

Rip

[bleak slate]

Wep eventually caved in and decided to go for Thelema over Lamp hopefully it doesn't come to bite me in the ass to badly

[bold kite]

[gaunt minnow]

1 (One) pull each

She's now fully geared

[ornate bolt]

wow,give me your luck

[gaunt minnow]

Granted, the character pull was already on 4 pity

But the weapon was on 41

[dry valve]

[tame kernel]

I just pulled senti from the dorm supply with tickets

[bold kite]

Oh hell yea

[ornate bolt]

[bold kite]

(Bonus for clarifying tickets which makes it better)

[tame kernel]

She isn’t useful without her gears

Either the old one or the new one

Well I won’t be using her for a long time

[crisp storm]

backflip

[crude mango]

rigged pls rig for me too

[ornate bolt]

wow u beg for luck now

[ornate bolt]

pls give me your luck to

[crude mango]

lantern doesn want to come out

[pulsar ibex]

did they buff rates

so new weapons got this synergy thing which is kinda like refinement in genshin

[uneven heart]

yes, they increase stigmata rate, while silently decrease weapon rate

[pulsar ibex]

also got the wep in another 10, kinda crazy

used to be suffering

[bright summit]

guys all i need is her weapon GUYS.

[dry valve]

[mystic zephyr]

literally cost me 65 pulls on lantern's banner just to not get her, and then 1 pull on Thelema rerun just to get Thelema instead 🧍

well at least my Thelema is s2 now

[rustic rose]

why did u pulll thelema again

[pine holly]

Wait Why Doe Fr

[mystic zephyr]

only to rank her up

[rustic rose]

why?

[mystic zephyr]

altho I probably should've waited

well

[rustic rose]

ya think?

[mystic zephyr]

she's my only 4/4 pt2 char

and deals the best damage out of all my pt2 chars by far

so

[rustic rose]

i-

[ornate bolt]

that pull could be sena/lamp/||sonkek||

[rustic rose]

is she ur only pt2 s rank

[ornate bolt]

[mystic zephyr]

no

[ornate bolt]

the valk on smh

[rustic rose]

what valk one

[mystic zephyr]

oh wait I also forgot about 4/4 coralie

but helia 3/4, 4/4 coralie, and 4/4 thel

[rustic rose]

do u have sena.?

[mystic zephyr]

nope

wasn't lucky with her

[rustic rose]

then why not saveee

[mystic zephyr]

woops

my mum called me

but @rustic rose I'm not too on top of playing Hi3 like I used to so

hopefully I'll be luckier with her next rerun since basically every part 2 comp needs her

[rustic rose]

smh

[river perch]

Rip the ||Songque||

[languid narwhal]

that's

cursed

[tacit kayak]

[pine holly]

Wow

[sharp vault]

[marble sage]

Fist time see in Thai language
if I’m not mistaken

[dim raft]

Oh my god! I just got her out of dorm pull! I'm sohappiii

I know she's not meta or whatever but she's such a precious little pie ^q^

Anyone have any recommendations for her weapon and stigmata's?

I have only her first one

[dry valve]

Use that weapon and craft Willows from foundry

[dim raft]

Thank you!

Is it possible to get her signature weapon?

[rustic rose]

uhm why not verne?

its craftable.

u need to craft peary to craft willows

just craft verne

a lot better for her

3pc gives ice dmg taken

[dry valve]

Willows works for most P1 ice valks but if you want her signature stigs then go Verne

[rustic rose]

key word:
most

[dry valve]

[solemn fable]

Please come home i will will pray

[feral moss]

Is this still star rail? The trailer is too good to be star rail.

[alpine socket]

It is

[crude mango]

hi3 need more love

[lunar quarry]

They do get more love

[manic plume]

No Hi3 badge, Nissedood was right all along

[crude mango]

i wish they will create more songs || with lyrics|| ~~look at hsr ~~

[manic plume]

AKAI TSUKI GA

OWARI NO SEKAYO

KANASHIIIIIII

[crude mango]

utahime no uta

idk how to spell jpnese aaaa

[manic plume]

I think that’s right actually

I still have World Diva in my metal playlist even tho ive long quit Hi3 at this point

[crude mango]

~~learning jpnese by playing honkai -day 1 ~~

[manic plume]

Real

[crude mango]

lets move to #🎮honkai-chat b4 the machas saw us

[bright summit]

same, i got all lantern stigmatas bc of the login rewards, i really wanted her cuz shes cool af... 2 pulls after her banners gone n i get Thelema.

[crude mango]

sounds like a good trade i mean what

[bright summit]

😩

[last parcel]

[solemn fable]

Oh count ur days honkai

🙏

[outer hemlock]

lol lantern was hardest pull

in my entire hi3 experience

went all the way 80 usually it's first 10 and never more than 40

Part 2 rng rigged real.

part 1 single tapping is gone

[rustic rose]

oh no!
not gettin them in the first 10 hurts deeply.

[river perch]

[quaint thistle]

if I get in first 10 during spending event, it would hurt deeply

[hollow flower]

I have 60 pulls in crystals, 7 tickets for weapon, getting a p2 character in first 10 is ideal

[outer hemlock]

Right the weapons are also harder to pull

Only one s ranker weapon on part 2

lanterns weap it's why I went all the way just to get her.

Think what I hear is senadina is more logical to roll for despite having thelema

Idk though since thelemas belly is making me want to try get her weap.

[crystal ridge]

why r they harder to pull tho

arent the rates the same

and only weap is guaranteed

[crystal ridge]

thel weap is much more important than sena weap, thel relies on it way too much

[outer hemlock]

Rng in part 2 seems terrible. Part 1 I always get weap first now I get dupes of all stigs before I get any weap feels like it only went through because of pity meter

big sad.

[crystal ridge]

why would it be terrible tho

its literally boosted rates and guaranteed weap

instead of normal rates and 3 stig + 1 weap being guaranteed

[outer hemlock]

it feels terrible in part 1 I get dupes of weap before complete set.

now dupes of stigs no weaps

[crystal ridge]

yeah its literally better now

[outer hemlock]

think something bad happened on my rng

[crystal ridge]

you just get weap for p2 and stop pulling

it feels bad because you’re hard pity-ing instead of “oh 40 pulls for stig lets go” in p1

[outer hemlock]

lol my rng on part 1 was good I tend to complete a valkyrie without touching pity

[crystal ridge]

uh huh

yeah thats what they all say dont worry

[outer hemlock]

pity tends to happen for next or even third valk I try to complete

[crystal ridge]

i actually have a combo message about it

[outer hemlock]

I mean I completed the trio without swiping

[crystal ridge]

yeah and like 2 million other players

[outer hemlock]

Most of my part 1 valks were f2p

[crystal ridge]

its ok, there are alot of ppl like you who complained before

[crystal ridge]

so 90% of the playerbase

[outer hemlock]

y..y

Part 2 rng feels worse than part 1 .

[crystal ridge]

it isnt

theres nothing bad in it and no they cant silently nerf rates, its illegal

if they make a change in their gacha then it must be announced

[slender bronze]

damn its been a while since someone said something about the rates

[ornate bolt]

7.6,just wait

[fathom charm]

Wait for new valk cause they love her for fan service
You'll see that so often then
Also hi sheep

[slender bronze]

[thin moat]

ah yes very cool

[mighty finch]

key of limp

[remote adder]

[hollow flower]

I have Sena, Lantern, Helia and Coralie all fully geared, i only miss Thelema so far, but like, if i did try getting her now what would i have left for next patch

[outer hemlock]

I'm missing sena,senas weapon, and thelema. I have thelema I just don't have weap big sad. I don't think I'll swipe for it nor try very hard to get it.

[outer hemlock]

Rates had been changed fo sure or accounts all along has predetermined outcome because I could recognize a pattern as if it has been flipped usually the last thing for me on a banner is stigmata b but recently I alwas get B first maybe if I wait long enough but eitherway it's quite discouraging.

[ornate bolt]

[slender bronze]

[crystal ridge]

what in the fucking cope

again, its illegal for hoyo to silently change rates, like its criminally illegal, they can get sued to death

[ornate bolt]

[crystal ridge]

and there isnt a predetermined outcome

there just isnt one

you’re just hard coping because p2 hit you like a truck

[crystal ridge]

also illegal^

[ornate bolt]

p2 hit me alright how? i only use 5k on thelma(4/4)

[crystal ridge]

hoyo wont break the laws just because they felt like fucking one specific account

also all you have been saying is from your own experience

countless cases where people got insanely lucky from p2 gacha are every where

[outer hemlock]

Triches going ballistics again.

[slender bronze]

if you want a reference for a company getting sued for hidden rates, Nexon got sued $9 million for having fake rates in MapleStory a couple months ago

[crystal ridge]

exactly, imagine a company with a caliber like hoyo

[outer hemlock]

ah mapplestory who even plays that

[crystal ridge]

and they got sued for 9 million dollars, now imagine what a multi billion enterprise will be sued for

you’re hitting all the typical p2 hater stereotypes lmfao

i think my combo mentioned everything that you’ve complained abt

[slender bronze]

you'd be surprised

[crystal ridge]

can someone check it for me

[ornate bolt]

like a few dolaa

[outer hemlock]

kek I don't hate p2 just saying there's a definitive difference

[ornate bolt]

1 or 2 dolla hoyo is kinda small company

[crystal ridge]

crazy how there isnt, also again, you are using your own experience to count in the million of players in hi3

literally is a sample size of

o n e

[slender bronze]

I found it

[crystal ridge]

i edited it

[crystal ridge]

also thats a bingo for me

3/3

[slender bronze]

oh then I haven't seen the new one

[outer hemlock]

triches is going balistics

[slender bronze]

I got the new version

[crystal ridge]

i’ve dealt with like 30 ppl like you before, these messages are basically pre typed already

[mellow storm]

wait,they changed the rates?

[crystal ridge]

actually i should add in the illegal to the rates thing too

[outer hemlock]

Definitely same rates

[crystal ridge]

??

[ornate bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/herrscher-of-sentience-hos-brick-murder-argument-gif-15283912410582841246

[crystal ridge]

what the fuck is that kind of example lmfao

[outer hemlock]

:p

[crystal ridge]

only changed stig rates and it got boosted to 14%

the rest stays the same

[slender bronze]

got lucky with AKA and SN = "back then rates were better"

[mellow storm]

oh, but I whaled anyway

[ornate bolt]

lol

[outer hemlock]

I had more just didn't save em

[crystal ridge]

“oh yeah uh according to this image with the sample size of o n e, rates were better back then”

get a bigger sample size and we’ll start talking

[ornate bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527384173883818005/1240881076214431764/akayuki_gasp.png?ex=6690ae8f&is=668f5d0f&hm=f003c3e81eeed7adb333e98e4f34618a39ff6e7183a07930a3d98c8a81abc68c&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1245785949124821002.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=SongqueBlabla

[crystal ridge]

the rates were never changed its still the same, the thing that matters is how lucky you are that day, thats all, and thats just a placebo effect too

the only thing that changed is hoyo boosting rates and making stuffs easier to pull for

[outer hemlock]

lol cheaper I haven't tapped this hard since himeko on launch

just sayin

[crystal ridge]

yeah i wont bother

its useless to argue with you who wont believe stuffs and is convinced that a multi-billion dollar company will just throw everything down the ditch because they felt like it

[hollow flower]

I had Sena weap first 10 pulls but Sena had to hard pity, while i had Lamp First 10 and her weap nearly hard pity , so it's really about luck nothing else

[ornate bolt]

game of chances realy do be like that

[crystal ridge]

literally me

actually no sena fucked me over

lamp and thel were better

[slender bronze]

sena weapless

[crystal ridge]

lamp took me 13 pulls for 4/4 + valk

thel took 60?

[crystal ridge]

stfu

[outer hemlock]

had lamp first 10 too weap hard pity

[crystal ridge]

thel in 20 pulls so thats smt

[outer hemlock]

coincidence I guess

[crystal ridge]

so you spent 70 pulls and you complain

“oh no i spent less than the average amount of crystals needed for a 4/4 valk, this game is rigged”

you barely spent 20k for lamp 4/4 holy shit why did you even complain

[ornate bolt]

we can even craft stigma now

[crystal ridge]

thats luckier than me

[mellow storm]

There's hard pity in this game?, I don't even know

[outer hemlock]

I rolled luna, and her entire gear without hitting pity please. Maybe I'm lucky then I'm just unlucky now

[crystal ridge]

there is

[hollow flower]

Tru, had to craft one stig for Sena since i got weap first 10

[mellow storm]

wow

[crystal ridge]

that literally does not prove anything

yeah im out, this convo is going nowhere lmao

just dont go around telling ppl that the rates are silently changed or smt

again

literally illegal

[hollow flower]

I got Luna 4/4 since release and i had to go close to hard pity for everything

[crystal ridge]

im talking criminal court case

you got unlucky because you got unlucky, thats all, nothing to do with rates

if you got lucky then congrats you got lucky

end of convo

[ornate bolt]

this is getting draged to long smh.lets change topic

[hollow flower]

Tru

Once more Thel gonna stay without pulling on her

[crystal ridge]

[outer hemlock]

I never believe coincidences but I'm not a twat to instantly disregard others opinion.

[crystal ridge]

the coincidence is that you’re lucky as shit, just be happy and be silent

istg these people

[ornate bolt]

hey i can flex my luck

[crystal ridge]

shuddup

[outer hemlock]

yes boss

[hollow flower]

But you see my amount of cristals

[crystal ridge]

surely thel 4/4 in 560 crystals

[outer hemlock]

Yea I need get started on part 2 14 days left

[hollow flower]

U mean 1 pull weap, 1 pull Thel and 2 stig crafted ?

[crystal ridge]

yez

[outer hemlock]

but I'm having fun on the repeat event of chibi race.

[hollow flower]

I got like 20 prisme in stock, i could use some more

[crystal ridge]

i got 3, you’re flexing on me

[hollow flower]

Well, i didn’t pull Thel

1 less character to stuff

[outer hemlock]

Maybe I should stay with the old rule I had you don't get valk and weap on first 1x10 of each you pass.

[crystal ridge]

i wasnt expecting a random lantern in the discounted pulls

[outer hemlock]

since p2 has easy stig crafting

[hollow flower]

Me neither, i was at 89 when i made the discounted 10 pulls

[outer hemlock]

still waiting for snake lady in part 1 just complete part 1.

Any news of what they'll have in rotation in future?

[ornate bolt]

posibly on adv ngl

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

pins

well they rerun her outfit,might be a rerun again

iirc she just have a rerun rught?

[outer hemlock]

I might have missed I get busy sometimes.

[ornate bolt]

7.2

[outer hemlock]

Idk which version we are in now

[hollow flower]

7.5

[late estuary]

another p2 moment

[ornate bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011203244916747/1260296783339196559/image0.gif

[rustic rose]

but our sample size of 1 is really large
it includes me, myself, and i. :(

[bold kite]

I'm gonna put you in a vacuum chamber

[rustic rose]

NO DONT
dont make me go back there!

D:

[river perch]

[outer hemlock]

Lol Last night I was going to collect all my screenshots of every single pull I had(pre covid) just to propose my 3 hypothesis but I got distracted by other games on my pc.

[crystal ridge]

not this again

like i had said

your gacha pulls (sample size of o n e) will NOT prove anything

nothing works like that, ingame or irl

you cant just prove that the rates were changed by hoyo without letting us know (fyi again: highly illegal) just because you, one singular player, got “shafted” by the game’s gacha (you literally spent 70 pulls for a 4/4 valk, thats lucky as shit and you’re still complaining)

[ornate bolt]

Let the man presentate and then smack it

[crystal ridge]

even if you sent all the pulls you did

it will still not prove shit

it doesnt work like that

nothing works like that

“oh here the game’s rates were changed because it took me more than 5 pulls to get this”

are you seeing the gaping hole in your logic

“ i never had to go to hard pity before” yeah because of that so you never realized the difference inbetween pulls, you hard pity-ing stuffs (for any readers, he spent a whopping amount of less than 20k crystals for a 4/4 p2 valk) in p2 made you cope and spew out the most batshit insane theories

like i said yesterday, just give up, be happy that you’re lucky as hell and move on

stop trying to prove non existent theories

you cant effectively prove them even if you wanted to

[dry valve]

Rate up is a lie

[crystal ridge]

luck is a skill

[rustic rose]

i was unamused

luck isnt a skill
the coin flip favors the "Lose" side for me in hsr >:(

anyways back to hi3

[slender bronze]

you really went all out with that text wall, I can't wait for the next one to show up when 7.6 drops

[river perch]

I lost 4 50/50s in a row on wuwa bruh

Glad hi3 takes pity on me with 100%

[crystal ridge]

[fathom charm]

20k?!
Bro that's lucky as shit

[uneven heart]

the copium does not lie

[fathom charm]

Like I hard pity sena and her weapon

[crystal ridge]

me when i dont get syn 3 sss thelema in 20 pulls

[fathom charm]

It was like 43k or something bro

[uneven heart]

Overpowered

[uneven heart]

Feel like nerfing, cuz you get too many stuff irrelevant to what you want
While in fact, you also get irrelevant stuff on part 1 gacha, and it's much more expensive if you have abysmal luck

syn 3 is hard tho, xd

[ornate bolt]

Wth, still the rate convo

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/435687797626634241/1145720397183074364/seele_nonono.gif

[uneven heart]

I don't state "dev nerf the rate"

I just state my opinion about why would people think that when they still keep the rate the same

(for weapon)

[late estuary]

it's the great amount of stigs in contrast to the weapon drop that's giving that feeling to people

as compared to when they had to pity for all 4

[outer hemlock]

Theories means they were proven or atleast has data to stand on hypothesis is word your looking for. :3

[outer hemlock]

It is. Theoretically rolling once on every banner is better than rolling 1x10 on a single one. It's the same rationale when it comes to lottery. '-'

[late estuary]

what does better stand for here

[outer hemlock]

You have higher chance of getting rare despite the guarantee of 1 rare per 10 pull.

[late estuary]

so getting stuff

[outer hemlock]

yes

[late estuary]

Yeah but there's added context on if the stuff is what you want or actually good so

[outer hemlock]

if you're poor you have limited resources you take what you get then decide base on what resource you initially gathered and wants comes second. It's unfullfilling but effective strategy applied it myself after long hiatus in hi3(a hiatus I took because I collected every valk available at that time)

plus himeko died q..q

I mean it could backfire like you said and just get bunch of trash but because your increasing your chances of getting something /anything you kinda will get something nice. Like dudu! dudu(pe) saved me from being unable to clear elysian realm(she hasn't been power creeped at that time). 😄

[late estuary]

That's flawed though, I can just save up instead and get a one way ticket into the meta instead of gathering old stuff to eventually get decent performance over a longer period of time and with more cost.
Its not that complicated or hard

and tbh any 4/4 valk can clear elysian realm

anyways, #🎮honkai-chat if you wanna continue

[crystal ridge]

what the fuck, ill just not

yeah uh keep going, now i understand how you’re this delusional

but yeah the channel got derailed so hard

[manic plume]

That does not work in this game in the slightest huh

If u just wanna play for story and characters then be my guest

But for both meta and waifu players they will pull on the banner they want for the character they need/want

1 10-pull multiple times on multiple EXPA banners is just a waste if because it’s a fixed rate

This is a gacha game yes, but not straight up some casino blow out trap

[wispy thorn]

Should i get SS Hare?

Nah i guess not. It's time to retire from whaling.

[dry valve]

Save your funds for HSR

[rustic rose]

look at her skills
what would it give you

[outer hemlock]

lol 1 x10 isn't what I'm saying is 1 as in 280 crystal on 10 different banners has higher returns than 1x10 on a single banner.

[manic plume]

Mb but that’s not really practical

[wispy thorn]

Yea I would but my new waifu Sonnet 3.5 is too demanding

Have to cut expenses on gachas

[outer hemlock]

If you played since launch with this strat you probably have every valkyrie and most gears. It's a marathon strategy not an instant pay off strat.

[woeful fossil]

every valkyrie and most gears is worse than almost every valkyrie and every single one geared

[rustic rose]

what?

lol

[woeful fossil]

?

[rustic rose]

can u rephrase it?

[woeful fossil]

how

[rustic rose]

OH

OH

NVM

[woeful fossil]

bref moment

[rustic rose]

i feel slow

[rustic rose]

achoo

[bold kite]

Sneeze moment

🤧

[rustic rose]

ACHOO

[outer hemlock]

what you mean??

most gears is most gear.

like 90% of everything.

[dry valve]

[woeful fossil]

how are you getting most gear if this is a "poor" strategy? F2ps and low spenders can't keep up with new releases, in the long run you'd be getting some valkyries with some gear but it's way better to just save up for new valks without even looking at the old ones

[hollow flower]

This guy may still not understand he got mega lucky in p1 and got all Valks mega early, which would have left him much xtals for the gears i suppose

[river perch]

"it works because I'm lucky" strat😭

[hollow flower]

Yeh, that guy had his rate up valks before the 10th pull so for him doing a few single pulls were worth more than a 10 pull on each banner, is what he sais, but bro was just too lucky

Or such is my understanding

[mighty finch]

Luck issues smh

[outer hemlock]

Luck is a skill

[bold kite]

Me when I cope

[outer hemlock]

Lol before it's easier to do few rolls here and there

because there used to be those events where there's 5 banners of valkyries and gear respectively you choose which to pull from but instead you go opportunistic and roll on all of them 1 280 roll each then you decide based on whether what you got is relevant/meta or useful even just to cover a gap on your line ups.

[crystal ridge]

what the fuck

bros hard gambling in a gacha game

[ornate bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585662376083324928.gif?v=1&size=64&quality=lossless

[jagged sundial]

I... wtf

[slender bronze]

are you saying you did one random one pull (280 crystals) on every banner that was available ?

[slender bronze]

I need you to explain to me what I just read

[crystal ridge]

you basically explained it

his logic is

instead of saving for a 4/4

he instead did a one pull and see whatever he got

and that is a better way of pulling

instead

of saving…

also he also said that doing singular pulls have a better rate than doing a 10 pull when both are the same

i gave up after knowing that he’ll not acknowledge that stuffs doesnt work like that

also he said he got most of p1 stuffs geared but i never saw him send any pics as proof and whenever i ask abt a relevant p1 valk, they’re always ungeared

[slender bronze]

I don't know what to say anymore

[crystal ridge]

also theres this

but idk if he was bullshitting or not

because 200 dollars for an A rank is funny as hell

also according to all the messages that he said, he is lucky as shit and he still complains

[slender bronze]

I did see this

[outer hemlock]

I did roll eventually enough to make 4/4 but a point where I'm more like 2/4.

if you specifically just save you miss out on stuff you could have for mere change.

[outer hemlock]

If you roll 1 time on 10 banners you'd have crit 2-3 times while if you roll 2800 crystal on one banner your guarantee is only 1 crit. You lose more for less.

[crystal ridge]

lmao what

[outer hemlock]

you could search stuff I posted here.

[slender bronze]

[crystal ridge]

you still know that its the same rates + guaranteed 1 4* for the 10 pull right???

also “crit”??? lmfaooo

i cantt

[ornate bolt]

What is crit btw?

[crystal ridge]

oh my god the delusion

its so fucking funny

[slender bronze]

I think they mean getting something good but using "crit" as a word here is funny

[crystal ridge]

THIS IS NOT MOST THINGS IN P1 LMFAO

i cantt

also just checked your pulls @outer hemlock

its like the most average account ever

[outer hemlock]

It is what I'm saying is after 1 rolling a valk and it's weap I tend to finish the set in that cycle or other cycle.

[crystal ridge]

anyways your logic is heavily flawed

every single pulls have the same rates

the 10 pull have the same rates PLUS guaranteed 4*

also time saver

you’re just hard coping atp

[outer hemlock]

You have same chances rolling that crit on every first 1 of 10 let that sink in.

[crystal ridge]

i love how you post the same shits over and over again too

[ornate bolt]

U know, u cant say your data as the argument right... U need at least 90% of the user base

[crystal ridge]

what?

dang i need some proofs

some sources maybe

“let that sink in” let what? lmao the delusion?

your acc is a very nice collectors acc tho

im not even joking

very nice collectors acc

absolute nightmare for meta players

[outer hemlock]

It is 1 of your first 10 will be crit your merely not wasting more by pulling more. more so if you don't actually have the funds or saving for something else.

[slender bronze]

I was going through kuroneko's posts in this channel and I saw the same screenshot of HoTr like 4 times lmao

[crystal ridge]

then why wouldnt you save?

[outer hemlock]

:3 I love flaunting this channel is for that

[crystal ridge]

istg i saw the same dorm pulls posts like 4 times lmao

[crystal ridge]

yeah but that is like the saddest flex ever

sheep pull out your acc

[slender bronze]

the one with SN and AKA ?
yeah that was also reposted

not sure why you would flex dorm pulls lol

[crystal ridge]

also your acc does not have most p1 things lmao

thats like 30% at most

[slender bronze]

what do you want me to show with my account ?

[crystal ridge]

he did flex his cakes

[ornate bolt]

We need 7.6 rn so we see something other then this convo

[crystal ridge]

also this looks insanely sad

[slender bronze]

the events inventory with all the birthday cakes/gifts and other items ?

[crystal ridge]

double blood tho, insane ma strat

[crystal ridge]

ye

[outer hemlock]

Yea years ago post

[crystal ridge]

can i see it now then

flex on me or smt

ok but this is funny lmao

its just the same things being repeated over and over

[slender bronze]

if I'm being honest, my weapons inventory also isn't anything special lol but its also not where I focus my hoarding

[outer hemlock]

Lol that's when otto arc was new

[crystal ridge]

you atleast have actually relevant stuffs

[crystal ridge]

you just ignored ma question

[crystal ridge]

this is funny tho

just the same images over and over again

wheres the other early pulls and stuffs you said you had

[outer hemlock]

I only have few on my phone

[crystal ridge]

uh huh

imma disengage yet again, this is just so fucking stupid to argue on lmao

cooking up the most insane stuffs that even hoyo didnt think of

[slender bronze]

This is everything in my Events inventory tab

[crystal ridge]

wiat what the fuck how did i miss the choclate bird

[ornate bolt]

I Just want to open baa box tbh

And open his xtals

[crystal ridge]

so true

[slender bronze]

[crystal ridge]

his stacks of crystal boxes still waiting for the day i hack into his acc

[ornate bolt]

Stream it when u got it

[crystal ridge]

gunna open and just get like 40k crystals

[ornate bolt]

Nahh 20k ish

[crystal ridge]

nuh uh

[ornate bolt]

He already count it

Iirc

[crystal ridge]

@slender bronze get to 40k

[ornate bolt]

Check #🎮honkai-chat history

Its like few month ago

[slender bronze]

miki calculated it when she was still here and it was 14,133 crystals

[ornate bolt]

Ah 14

Mb

[slender bronze]

I'm not sure if it changed between then

I don't think I got any new crystal boxes in my inventory

[crystal ridge]

thats pretty long ago

like more than 2 days

[ornate bolt]

But we don't have xtals pack given to us

[crystal ridge]

imma go raid ma fridge

baii

gonna come back to random paragraphs about how doing singular pulls are better when it’s literally the same

[outer hemlock]

I'm just divulging info.

[crystal ridge]

wrong baseless infos

“oh i experienced this before so you’d too, thats why its better to do random pulls instead of saving for something”

[outer hemlock]

I didn't say not to save for something. No one grows poor rolling a 280 crystal on a banner that's maybe but most likely skip.

[thin moat]

what the hell is this

[slender bronze]

its a giant dog, also this is gacha salt

[thin moat]

yes

i know this is gacha salt

[crystal ridge]

its his house

[slender bronze]

my bad

[fathom charm]

Being a casual here and I'm fucking scared of what I'm reading and seeing LOL

[sand vortex]

@indigo dawn

[tacit kayak]

Easy boss

[thin moat]

What is it supposed to be

[river perch]

Read chapter 1 (part 2)

[thin moat]

Nah

I skip part 2

[shrewd hornet]

left for a million years and came back for latern and missed laterns banner

I wanna kms

[ornate bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907772869164036167/1258097902048251904/d6df11134f1953428d017ad47c037e54a772899aaebef9db93c137e5bdd5d5b0-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[outer hemlock]

@coral urchin

[rustic rose]

Do u have stfu bp outfit ?

[outer hemlock]

??

[rustic rose]

Striker Fulmenata (Valk Bladstrike Aug) bp outfit
Its the recolor of her normal aug outfit

[outer hemlock]

this?

[rustic rose]

Beautiful

Also lucky

[outer hemlock]

lol that augment outfit is suggestive xd

[rustic rose]

Wdym?

[outer hemlock]

it looks see through and skintight when it's not.

[clear flame]

well well does anyone have the same birthday ?

[pale ingot]

damn whel

[pale ingot]

happy bd

[clear flame]

tysm

[rustic rose]

I never saw it as that lol

[patent talon]

Nice day

[hollow flower]

https://tenor.com/view/elysia-chibi-anime-gif-25071216

[worldly flint]

First S rank let's goo

[crude mango]

dont pull dorm w crystals tho

[worldly flint]

im probably just gonna save them for some character I like or something

bronya's my second favourite character tho so im happy

[clear beacon]

Finally SSS

[pale ingot]

i have sss hor

[ornate bolt]

[river perch]

Whoa

[pale ingot]

[minor lichen]

LEMME GET A PROPER DROP and NOT SCAMMG STUFF PLEASEEE

[dry valve]

[hollow flower]

If it wasn't for p2 valks priority, i'd pull for her, i have the other two of the trio but I did not finish the equipment, so better not go too far

[patent talon]

I take it

[river perch]

Mines S2 rn I'm very tempted to pull one more copy for SS

Need que tho

[loud surge]

my hofi looks kinda weird

[river perch]

How did this happen

[dry valve]

[crude timber]

Why now ;-;

[bold kite]

HoYo love doing these types of things right before spend events

[river perch]

That's a lot of crystals buddy

Mind handing some over?

[crude timber]

No i worked hard for these >.>

[pale ingot]

i already have s1 hofi 4/4 with skin

i very lucky on her skin also

skipped ae box

[nocturne talon]

That box is so fucking tempting but I despise kia

[bold kite]

ill box u

[fathom charm]

Finally someone who isn't a die hard simp for her

[ornate bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/game-grumps-gamegrumps-kirby-epic-gif-13526183

[rustic rose]

Hello, my name is breath

[fathom charm]

Dammit breath

[stark hemlock]

[tame thorn]

Thought I could get some stigmata for my HoFi, but the game gave me four weapons instead. Fun.

[crude mango]

3000 weapon reso

[waxen basin]

4 HoFi weapons and no M stig

i love gacha games

[river perch]

is there an 100% rate up on hofi weapon or smth

[loud surge]

Here’s an M stig for you ❤️

[crystal ridge]

now you just need a guy with 0/4 hofi

[outer hemlock]

Stereotypical p1 rng. Still better than p2

[fathom charm]

"Still better than p2"

[outer hemlock]

I'd be happier getting 4 weapon dupes in p2 rather than pity just to get weapon

[patent talon]

Good

[bold kite]

And no stigmata, and Stigmata you can't forge? You think that is better to have a 1/4 valk?

[fathom charm]

Gramps this guy had a 3 day convo with ches about why p1 banner is so good

[bold kite]

Oh Im aware

[rustic rose]

Wait p1 banner is good..?

[fathom charm]

Yes definitely will help u retain RL and heck even nirvana with ease 100%

So optimal in long run
So much that u go poor

[rustic rose]

Ur the reason im pulling HoTr

[fathom charm]

Me?

Wait how

[outer hemlock]

Lol free forgeable stigs for p1 doesn't exist?

[fathom charm]

Haha no

Well they do

But not like as soon as their banner releases

Maybe like a decade later like mobuis release ig

[outer hemlock]

But I was told almost everything pre g4 are inferior to g4

[fathom charm]

?

Could u say that sentence another way
I didn't get it

[outer hemlock]

when I was still simping to get ragna stigs and dudus stigs I was told by friend that sirin forgeable stigs are better.

only downside for dudu was less sp regen

[fathom charm]

I have no idea about that

Isn't ragana Rita's fire suit BIs?

[outer hemlock]

fire elem you know the forgotten element

[fathom charm]

That thing is ancient...

[fathom charm]

Physical

[outer hemlock]

exactly

[fathom charm]

Well with quesong Physical is updated so

[outer hemlock]

physical isn't forgotten you got hare and now another physical

[fathom charm]

Horb

Also fire isn't dead

[outer hemlock]

yup

[fathom charm]

Lantern release and we also have KFC hua

So?

[outer hemlock]

fire been dead since himeko died q.q

[fathom charm]

????

Sirin is right there

And so is phoenix?? (I forgot her battlesuit name)

[outer hemlock]

god don't remind me of lantern I feel cheated not skipping that one.

[fathom charm]

Now we have lantern

How is fire even dead

[outer hemlock]

kfc hua is fine or just call her chang li to get some malding wuwa fans offended

jk

fire dead q.q

[fathom charm]

..?

U good?

I just named 3 battlesuits that are fire
Recently got released..and not a year old
How is fire "dead"

[outer hemlock]

I have 4/4 hua and lantern

Fire dead because I say so nyohoho

[fathom charm]

Good for u?

[fathom charm]

Ah I see u are delulu

Fire died after himeko

[outer hemlock]

I don't like lantern u like lantern?

[fathom charm]

With that logic physical died after hov departed

[fathom charm]

I love her personality and design
I despise her gameplay

[outer hemlock]

Damn we agree then

[fathom charm]

I'm very confused

[rustic rose]

I love it

[pine holly]

Man

How Much U Spent For Her

[dawn ledge]

60 worth of pulls and a prayers

[chilly sentinel]

Who should I buy

[dry valve]

[dry valve]

Go to #👶beginner-help

[stone aurora]

Its patch eve. have 25k crystals. 90 pity character supply. 45 pity equipment supply. And 40 pity astrol op supply. Let’s see how far I get tmrw

[gray wagon]

Depending on what team you want to build. Best to focus 1 @ a time.

[gray wagon]

[tulip light]

It is already?!

Crap... I have lost the timing for this patches

[quaint thistle]

pity here i come

[tawny kiln]

Soon

[ornate bolt]

[crystal ridge]

nice wig

[glacial scroll]

low quality graphics card effect ;o

[torn yacht]

Spam later

[static hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/grace-grace-zenless-zone-zero-grace-zzz-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-gif-5343197880041882143

[outer hemlock]

The washed out background this game needs some mods.

[fathom charm]

Gonna see this chat get flooded in less than 2 minutes

[solid sun]

fr

[outer hemlock]

wai?

[bold kite]

12 pulls

HAHAHA

[fathom charm]

Bruhh

Xd

[gloomy ember]

[solid sun]

xd

[fathom charm]

Congratulations!!

[lyric fiber]

[solid sun]

surely il get her later with my singuler 10 pull

[humble brook]

MEEE POLEASE ME PLLELELASE

[solar juniper]

nice, 20 pull in total

[bold kite]

40 pull

[river perch]

Bro

[outer hemlock]

I'd try get her with 280 crystals only.

[river perch]

Wtf

Khai don't steal the luck

[solid sun]

leave some for the rest of us

[tidal narwhal]

90 pulls it's over

[outer hemlock]

ouch

[bold kite]

30 pull

[humble brook]

😭 dawg wtf

[static hatch]

i giv up

[humble brook]

save some luck for the rest of us

[bold kite]

84 pulls for valk, 4/4 and AstralOp

Good haul

[humble brook]

thats insane

[humble brook]

mods

ban khai

[solid sun]

please

[river perch]

HOW

[dry valve]

I got Songque's wig

[river perch]

Please ban khai

Bro got 4/4 songque and sera in 70 pulls

[humble brook]

IM SO SALTY

[south robin]

i got songque on the first 10x pull lol

[lyric fiber]

[solid sun]

this is what i need to happen

[river perch]

😭bro I gotta deal with this for 2 more hours

Why do I even play NA server

[solid sun]

[crude timber]

Yup

I feel ya

[glacial scroll]

sea???

[south robin]

ye

[solar juniper]

46 pull, not too bad

[bold kite]

Very decent!

[glacial scroll]

ehh

[river perch]

Surely I'll get Songque first multi right

[lyric fiber]

Ok 20+ for song que

[solid sun]

i just need to get songque and her gear in 3.3k crystals, surely thats possible

[robust marsh]

Woo! Congrats to everyone getting her

[halcyon sandal]

bruh no way
discounted pull

[solar juniper]

kinda tempting for sera

[tawny kiln]

Do it!

[gleaming basin]

Hopium with only 1.6k

[solid sun]

[gleaming basin]

When is global anniversary?

[solid sun]

march? idk i forgor xd

[gleaming basin]

Rip

[lapis tangle]

my songque so funny looking

[solid sun]

white hair songque?!?!? how many pulls

[lapis tangle]

60 now

[solid sun]

[glacial scroll]

I want to know too

[solid sun]

pretty sure anni is usually march or april

since i think its after sea anniversary

[ionic falcon]

🙂

[livid lantern]

Got her next single pull
Weapon took me another 55 pulls

[solid sun]

pain

[crystal ridge]

LMAO

@jagged sundial @tough peak @vast grove

HAHAHAHAH

[tough peak]

bro ure gonna make cay rq this server

[dusty hawk]

[storm flint]

what is this is just one copy

[ornate bolt]

[storm flint]

[halcyon sandal]

broke but got all

[crystal ridge]

30 pulls not bad

[latent wave]

17K xtals... Still no wep

[ornate bolt]

wth ches

[heavy oxide]

80

[valid sundial]

Discounted pull + 30 pulls equipment banner
Songque I love you <33

[slender bronze]

[latent wave]

give weapon luck pls

[crystal ridge]

less than 12k for 4/4 song lmao

[valid sundial]

that was a compensation... I hit max pity for Sena and Thelema weapons T-T

[inland token]

😭

[inland token]

5 A ranks consecutively

My dopamine levels 📈 📉 5 times in a row

[sly fossil]

Thank god I got her weapon early I thought the weapon banner pity was 50 14k crystals spent

[slender bronze]

pull Sera now

so you can get more spending event tokens

[late estuary]

Depends on how close you are and your budget

[slender bronze]

my luck has been so bad since Thelema/Lamp

[inland token]

12k xtals and nothing

Rip my luck

[crystal ridge]

im going for sera, 30 days starting from 0 xtals, surely

[heavy oxide]

oh exactly 40

[inland token]

Tbf I should've saved more

[slender bronze]

I can pity songque by next week, but I want to save for Summer Senti

[crystal ridge]

cant believe that i actually got her lmfao

[slender bronze]

you've gotten lucky on discounted pull so many times

meanwhile me

[valid sundial]

is Serapeum worth it? I mean meta wise

[slender bronze]

only for top nirv players

[valid sundial]

oh... I'll just save for Lantern then

[crystal ridge]

am suffering

[pale ingot]

left 20 pulls get her weapon

[dry garnet]

got songque in 11 pulls, got her wep after 17, i'm so happy omg

[pale ingot]

how so lucky

17 pulls?

[dry garnet]

saved up bad luck from other hoyo games im sure

[pale ingot]

true

• luck

[solid sun]

i used all my luck getting thelema 4/4 previously

[pale ingot]

this time lucky already

thelema pulls very bad last time

[inland token]

(According to my calculations it is a 0.000004196% chance to get 5 A-ranks in a row, if my maths did not fail)

[pale ingot]

bruh

[slender bronze]

@thin tulip

I just joined and saw that

[thin tulip]

i guess i need to share this

[somber ravine]

FUCK THIS... GONNA UNINSTALL after I get her weapon

[lyric fiber]

[crude stone]

Hmmm first timee

[lyric fiber]

Dkeys box is expensive

[river perch]

alright guys

first multi

AAAAAAAAHHHH

FIRST MULTI WHAT

OMG WHAT WHAT WHAT

[hollow lily]

fk you hoyo

[lyric fiber]

[marsh elk]

one Sera go wrong address to you captain, please send her back to me!

[river perch]

ripp

[solid sun]

just got 2 ritual imayoh and 3 helia's in 2 ten pulls

[glacial scroll]

global

[vague ridge]

[marsh elk]

Guy, remember if someone share they got duplicate Songque/weapon or Sera, one of it may belong to you but went wrong address to other captain.

[hollow lily]

holy damn this is the first time i went to 1, what did hoyo do to pull rate

[solid sun]

true, thats what happened to me fr

went to the wrong address

[drifting vale]

ez clap

[solid sun]

nahh that isnt real

i refuse

[slender bronze]

bro why is everyone getting double sera ?

[vague ridge]

[tacit kayak]

[vague ridge]

tfw i dont even have sena or lantern

[tacit kayak]

Happy gacha day !

[weak sphinx]

Well, with the free box ... that's a full equip in a single multi haha

[bold kite]

Another 30 pulls for dupe

[valid elbow]

22k+ crystals and 8 supply cards got me S rank serapeum S rank songque and full gear very happy overall

[crystal ridge]

whale

[valid elbow]

and got an elysia rank up stamp and im just missing ONE fragment 😭

[bold kite]

Version 7.6-
12 pulls for Lilque
30 pulls for Sera
30 Pulls for Sera Dupe (SS)
40 Pulls for stigmata set and weapon
3 pulls for Lilque dupe (S.2)

Total pulls: 115

[crystal ridge]

whalekhai

khaiwhel

[humble brook]

WEAPON IN ONE PULL LETS GO???

[bold kite]

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

AHAHAHA

[humble brook]

IVE BEATEN THE GACHA

[crystal ridge]

no prisms lets go

[bold kite]

3 more pulls for Lilque dupe

[marsh elk]

do anyone still read skill description? I give up since senadina was released back then...

[bold kite]

[crystal ridge]

STAPHH

megawhel

[slender bronze]

bruh is Khai just pulling extra ?

[bold kite]

Finally

After a bad year

7.6 was truly the hit I need

We are so back

[crystal ridge]

and you still suffer with prisms

[stiff ether]

Singles...leave me alone already

[crystal ridge]

(liek me)

[bold kite]

And you still suffer with being 🍊

[cold gorge]

Shu of Scam

[stiff ether]

there she is again

[wet dust]

First 10 pull letsgooo

Ok nvm

[crystal ridge]

danggg

[cold gorge]

53 weapon (50 of which has been spent on lanterns weapon already)
84 Songque
24 spent on Sera and still waiting for her ☠️

At least she finally succeed at scamming someone

[crude timber]

Lets gooo

[stiff ether]

67 pulls and got nothing 😭

[crude timber]

Still have 10k left

[cold gorge]

and 0 stigma rip 4 prism ☠️

[nimble bloom]

4th patch in a row i go into a version with few crystals and still manage to snipe an early pity on character banner. (i only had 12.5K crystals going into this patch, and no pity)