💁gameplay-help

[hollow cairn]

rip

[lapis raven]

+1 ezclap

totally not -2 of ref rn

[vernal bronze]

got two questions
if a valkyrie is type disadvantaged, will gold numbers appear? I believe this is usually for determining if crit happens
Are all impair stacks unstackable?

[vernal terrace]

Only the highest impair value will take priority

[vernal terrace]

As for the first one which mainly for Physical, no, Phys Valks that are type countered have grey numbers appear

[vernal bronze]

ok, reading on the faq, it seems phys breach stacks, not impair

oh right, only phys can crit

so if a phys valk is countered, and only grey numbers appear, how would you tell if they crit

[vernal terrace]

Elemental Valks can't crit
So their color of numbers will stay the same but just lower

[vernal terrace]

Probably will be hard to tell

[half hatch]

Phys breach multiplies with impair but not with itself, also the more impair/phys breach you have the weaker the other one gets because you reduce an already reduced DEF stat

[crude cloak]

Purely by looking at damage numbers unfortunately

[crude cloak]

(team Phys Breach doesn't stack with itself)

Same as Ele

[half hatch]

Do we even have self phys breach

[vernal terrace]

Don't think so

[crude cloak]

Sera has it

[half hatch]

[crude cloak]

But ye, rn this doesn't matter

[vernal terrace]

Fucking Aop

No Valk has self Phys breach then

[vernal bronze]

How does self breach work
It just applies to the Valkyrie?

And team breach applies to everyone on the team?

[half hatch]

Yeah and stacks with team beach

[vernal bronze]

🏖️

[crude cloak]

It might not apply to the one proccing it, but ye

[vernal terrace]

I believe HoHe has self Elemental Breach?

[crude cloak]

A lot of valks do

[half hatch]

Yeah iirc quite a bit of p2 valks also have some in their leader skill or smth

[sullen shadow]

What's the fastest way to max out weekly rusted insignias?

[craggy plume]

LITE the first stages do the boss stage finalize and repeat on as high a difficulty as you can clear.

[sullen shadow]

Thanks! I'll try it out.

[dusky mantle]

warframe wow

so i've been using my AL to SSS old valks, instead of using it to get PWO, how cooked am i on valk ranks

like HoFi

[cunning gull]

ehhh dont matter unless u use em a lot and in nirv

still its good to have spare incase theres a valk added that u need

[obtuse lintel]

Is there a way to sort by most used and leave that as default?

[warped sequoia]

should i get rita weapon or continue saving for anniv patch

9k xtals rn

[neon narwhal]

Could you provide a screenshot of your p2 valk list (whats geared and all)

I'm more leaning towards the weapon to at least make rita a useable valk but there is one option of aiming for next ver unit if you try till end of the banner duration (still a gamble)

[naive mirage]

Guys does Rita hle and fdd work as a team? If it does what’s the rotation?

[crude cloak]

FDD is a copium pick but she still works
The rough rot would be HLE WA + ult -> FDD QTE + WA + ult -> Rita DPS until SO or until buffs run out

Turn off HLE's QTE btw

[naive mirage]

okie tyyy

who would've been better than fdd?

[craggy plume]

Anyone with the harmonized shadow star tag

[jade zephyr]

Rotation advice for this? im on ME/HLE/Thel

[open bone]

Big things are to be careful with HLE WA since it suspends animations and that can slow the boss; it’s worth doing because she gives a lot of buffs but you want to make sure to time it right. If your Thelema has weapon you can also farm a lot of Ari in the transition (making it a 2 SO run) but I’m not sure that’s worth it for you since your abyss rank seems low and the boss presumably paper

[vernal bronze]

anyone know if there is a stigmata set newer than dirac that mentions burst mode?

[jade zephyr]

Okay I got it to 710 now, the thel part helped with getting the 2nd so
Yeah its not that difficult but I havent been able to ever rank high

[quasi pier]

pericles mentions it

[open bone]

Fair enough. There might be more things you can do but I’d have to see the run and it sounds like you’re scoring fine

So it’s up to you if it’s worth the effort to record

[vernal terrace]

Boss is quite tanky

[visual quest]

me thel vita > ME thel hle for this boss right?

[spiral raven]

u want sena

instead of vita

if only between the two then guess u ahve to find out

[visual quest]

yea no sena unfortunately

[spiral raven]

u can try vita first since ur mostly be in SO

[visual quest]

yea i went with that, idk if it matters but vita is s2+ while hle is s0, so maybe time would be better with vita anyways

[spiral raven]

vita s2 does make her buff better but hle u just need to figure out wa timings, because your wa sus ani ruins stuff

[visual quest]

vita has barely any playtime in my run, but i think the start has dmg loss with her

[spiral raven]

thats normal

[twilit summit]

Not having PAWS, Badum, or PS Weapon fucks me over yet again in Arena lol

Fuck it we ball

I kinda wanna use RS, Songque, FDD on sprout of wishing but without FDD idk who to use with HLE and Horb on Sa.

[vernal terrace]

Can still use FWS for support

[spiral raven]

he no badum

[vernal terrace]

Oh

[spiral raven]

well the goi units are helia badum ps hohe, so in that case, u either use hohe or use ps

hohe is prob fine

[twilit summit]

[dusky mantle]

Ahhh its husk

Can i cope with HoO dps

[open bone]

Depends on your ranks and bracket

[dusky mantle]

Ss hotr hoo s2 hofi kiaelf 4* RL

Trying to +100

[open bone]

Sounds rough

S2 on HoO especially

Maybe your bracket will be very lucky tho

[vernal terrace]

Better hope your bracket slacks

[cunning gull]

i think it reads as ss hotr ss hoo s2 hofi

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/t6xmgus9Wyc Is there anything about my rotations I should change in this run?

[spiral raven]

just ring asap p1

or at least earlier in p1 cuz looks like u overkill quite a bit

[spiral raven]

combo for surplus sure but feels like evades could be better

after combo for surplus don't bother phantom

just ring

[spiral raven]

tho one thing im not sure is that thel buff feels like it ran out at the end there after SO, try swapping to thel and see if you got ult up or something and then swap back to rita

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/WJ_Yo2XNAcM I think its worse but that might be because the eva farming was better.

[spiral raven]

the vid is not comparable what, u shoulda restarted or something

ur thel didnt even pop the balls

[pale musk]

replicating stuff is hard

ok I'll try again in a minute

[spiral raven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063873280840314911/1152982011343020072/0c482e71528afd7e5c0b208da0d95e33.gif

[spiral raven]

well yea it can be, but like i don't know what you expect with sending a something thats quite different

[pale musk]

how do you evade the bull? In intro I tried evadin its 2nd attack but I just end up going around it for some reason. (0:29)

[spiral raven]

when i made that statement it was for after transition at p2

as for the start i see what you mean, it looks like u only got one evade off

u have to hold the arrow key when evading i suppose

you didnt hold anything when evading or atking, can try doing that

but also the atks are quite narrow u have to dash into it if u wanted to get the evade off

in ur vid earlier ur too close to the bull

when the atk happened

[pale musk]

It's midnight for me so I really shouldn't be trying to do any runs. The closest I got was here pretty much and it at least shows what ringing asap looks like. https://youtu.be/58kL6h0IeYQ I'll try and get a better ref tomorrow.

[dusky mantle]

Hoo is ss

[open bone]

Oh. Maybe a lil less cooked then

[dusky mantle]

What if

I use the MA build

Hoo hofi gd with schro M lmao

[cunning gull]

bull too tanky

do trio if no rita

[open bone]

You’re not killing in ring and have to do a whole rotation after. Why not just wait on triggering ring

Do your surplus sequence and a surplus ult

And then ring

[pale musk]

k, I'll try that for next time. Am I at least following advice for p1 correctly?

[spiral raven]

he has no sena buffs during surplus in p2, loses more dmg that way probs

also he just played the end there bad

if he rings first then he gets sena buff at least afterwards

should change order of sena thel at the end, sena first then swap to thel

so rita doesn't have 8s cd swap

[open bone]

Oh hmm yeah maybe if they waste less time with the rebuffing it’d be worth it

[edgy hamlet]

HLE or MPS on this boss?

[open bone]

MPS Sena for sure

[edgy hamlet]

Oh I see. It's just that I'm seeing someone on the leaderboard use HLE Sena and they seem to be outscoring MPS Sena runs

[spiral raven]

leaderboard says a lot i agree

[open bone]

If you have SSS sera thele is less important ig? But the evade malding in transition is key for most people

[spiral raven]

sss sera still want thel lol

she a must ngl

[edgy hamlet]

I have SSS Sera so I can do a bit of evade malding if it means outscoring HLE

[pearl raven]

Why is Sena a recommended support instead of Vita. From what I've read it seems like Vita provides a bit more than her

[open bone]

sena is way faster

[weak drum]

because sena has basically 0 on field time

[open bone]

vita very slow

also vita doesnt give better buffs unless she's s2

[weak drum]

you can use vita if you have her at atleast s2+ and preferably ss+ sera

[weak drum]

oh also conbax

imagine 2025 prof smh

[open bone]

ty

[weak drum]

shuddup

[open bone]

don't make me faq ches

[weak drum]

[pearl raven]

Another thing. On Sena's WoD buff it says "if 30sp is consumed". I'm assuming that would mean maybe if you ult?

[edgy hamlet]

wotdahel when did EU go -3 from NA disturbance???

[plucky swan]

no exactly, she consumes SP off field in WoD

[pearl raven]

Lol i was fact checking as well but stopped cause you right. Sena is better

[weak drum]

nah you were right, buffs wise vita wins, but you gotta account in the amount of field time they take up

and vita absolutely hogs up the field time of the team

while sena is just a breach factory

[pearl raven]

So you automatically get 16% elemntal breach then since she's off field during WoD?

[plucky swan]

yes

[spiral raven]

for rita, sena is a lot better because sena buffs weap dmg a lot, and most of rita's dmg are weap, cn peeps test saw vita only beating s0+1 sena if vita sss+3

[weak drum]

ong

shudduo stop fact checking me

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217310759424622724/1428986289264267345/n7Q2w-2z8vXeT3cSkc-kc.gif

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/_RLjovHtAeQ||

:pepega:

[weak drum]

mid run ngl

[rare iris]

just like the player frfr

[vernal terrace]

[edgy hamlet]

that ARI farm

[warped sequoia]

not many since i only started consistently playing again last patch but the only one not completely geared is badum kiana (no weapon

[open bone]

Tbh I would skip Rita wep, it’s rough but you don’t havs a team for her

You’d be stuck with Rita HoHE VBM/Hofi or else using her as a Badum supp

Whereas next patch is ||grail|| and you do have two supps for that

[vernal terrace]

Badum has no weapon they mentioned so they can't use her for dps

[open bone]

Ah so yeah can’t even use Rita as a loa supp

Even more cooked

Well IG they could try giving her waxing, it might be better than nothing on SD content, but you still wouldn’t need Rita there

[vernal terrace]

Would depend on Rita support vs HoHe support

[dusky mantle]

ok ignite HoI and blood thirsty SD swarm weather next

[crude cloak]

Death -> glad to be dead

[vernal terrace]

Both are decent cycles for me to promo into Nirv for

[sinful lintel]

which stimas can i use with Luna?

[spiral raven]

if you don't have her sig stuff already i wouldn't bother

you can use zhenyi tb and handel m as alternative if you did already have that

but this all assume you have her weapon

and you have a team ig to work with it, but i doubt you do

[elfin parrot]

yeah let us know what you already have if you can

[sinful lintel]

3 handel is enough?

[elfin parrot]

do note that any use of LV atm for the meta is basically out of date by now.

Next patch ||LV will be getting a new set. The weapon will be gacha only. Check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for more details.||

[sinful lintel]

oh

[elfin parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJsNrv6a-hQ you can see various comparisons here

[spiral raven]

in context of stigs alone, its slightly worse than zhenyi tb handel m, but yea can work for idk what u want

so you mean || next patch || stuff ?

[sinful lintel]

i think i will use in ER only, i think

[elfin parrot]

Please note ||there's no official news of LV's new equipment yet for glb servers. It's only primarily officially known in CN servers so far. Therefore any mention of it here should be spoiler tagged||

[sinful lintel]

got it

thnkss

[elfin parrot]

For ER purposes you can prob just use handel. You'll ult enough there to keep its effect up (2pc)

but note that for more regular play handel is a bit more awkward for LV

you might want to revise/edit this statement in particular

anyway going back to ER, be mindful of the different playstyles her elysia signets offer there. One of them relies more on her basics and combo attack and is very different from how she normally plays. For what signets to pick with her, consult the ER faq in the pins.

[elfin parrot]

@sinful lintel going to delete your earlier statement since it might be misinterpreted. Not actually a big deal though. Please be careful in the future.

[sinful lintel]

What did I say wrong? :~

[dusky mantle]

kekeke

[dreamy vapor]

|| Just forgot to spoiler tag future content that hasnt been announced yet on global, but has in the beta. like they said not a big deal or anything but it shouldnt sit around un spoilered for people that dont want those ||

[craggy ivy]

Hello anyone heb S0 ref rl bull ME HLE FL w DS

[sinful lintel]

i spolied something? i just ask about stigs

[craggy ivy]

or S2 hfi s2 htr ss1 hoo kia4 better

[sinful lintel]

well... sorry

[dreamy vapor]

|| lunar vow's dkey and stig set has not been announced globally yet, just in the CN beta ||

[sinful lintel]

yeah.. thats why i say about handel

[spiral raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1usi4BmEqN/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[craggy ivy]

[dreamy vapor]

yup those are still above

[craggy ivy]

Wtf is computer bili algo diff

Didn't find this one

[spiral raven]

guess they like me more

[craggy ivy]

gg

also kia4 or ds for me

[spiral raven]

you'll get phantom a bit late

but if it dont slow down p1 too much

then go for kia4

[craggy ivy]

thonk

[spiral raven]

p1 u dont bother SO

chill transition

[craggy ivy]

ult wait for phantom to appear?

[spiral raven]

he waits for surplus but yes its same timing

[spiral raven]

if u have thel, can still try 2 SO? running ds, need to be pretty good at evade tho, get at least 50+ evades, then thel ult combo for surplus

quite the mald

[craggy ivy]

There's 759 thel in my brack but ss sera

[spiral raven]

i would assume something like 770 to be fairly doable with ss sera

[craggy ivy]

okayge

S0 thel fine issit

sena thel or thel hle

[spiral raven]

i meant like 770 for the ss sera guy
idk what thel would score running ds

[craggy ivy]

s0 both

[spiral raven]

its either sena thel or sena hle

u can just go sena hle first

and then if feel motivated try sena thel later ig

[craggy ivy]

1D gap not that big right

[spiral raven]

maybe -2 or 3 and thats it

[craggy ivy]

CN has 780 with sena thel but is 529

Oh wait img bull

gg no thel hw

[spiral raven]

its very ass to do it well and ur ending with less ari

compared to img bull cuz its much tankier

there's thel homework but they all basically sera

[obtuse lintel]

what makes Vita's weapon special?

[elfin parrot]

you said you couldn't find ||luna's 'new' set|| after I introduced you to it, but you didn't spoiler tagged this. You said it openly.

[dusky mantle]

speaking of which

[elfin parrot]

maybe you didn't understand what that meant (||it's not available now, but it's coming soon next patch. We only know because it's in the official CN server which is ahead of us. Details in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins||)

but it had to be edited/removed since in the context of that conversation, it was strongly possible to interpret it as content not officially known to global servers yet, despite if your own possible intentions may differ.

It's a bit silly and again it's not really a big deal overall. I'm just explaining with a lot of words so you can understand this better (so you know in the future). Please keep in mind this is still an official server so we have to abide by its rules/policies.

[dusky mantle]

will i need Sci

for future bleed content

if there will be any

[elfin parrot]

personal damage and it gives Vita's first stellar drain before the first outburst more ARI mainly

[obtuse lintel]

[elfin parrot]

i'm not sure how this is relevant. Maybe review details in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins.

[dusky mantle]

uwu

[elfin parrot]

||it sounds like you're going by old luna stuff but stellar keys can change everything||

[plucky swan]

||If you ask bc of LV dkey, it gives her GoI, which makes SImp non-compatible with her as the latter doesn't have the Symbiosis tag.||

[dusky mantle]

umu

[elfin parrot]

||also it's p2. We don't have as much element-specific boosting stuff as p1||

but anyway you're a capable enough player that i'm sure you can find the details

i'll spoonfeed this at least || https://i.imgur.com/o2jW6vp.png||

[dusky mantle]

owo

[elfin parrot]

note the "before" as in, having it off. (wtf is this wording)

[dusky mantle]

mhmm

[elfin parrot]

anyway the spoiler tagging is getting out of hand lol

[vernal terrace]

[dusky mantle]

umu

arigathanks for the spoonfeed

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

im trying this but cant manage to get first hp before 920

[mortal jetty]

Since you are missing damage ..you could do a charged attack before the stellar outburst with vita

[obtuse lintel]

i did in other runs

the result is pretty much the same

my current score is this

im getting demoted

[mortal jetty]

Did you try another charged after rita qte before SO?

[obtuse lintel]

may be this is one of the reasons too? idk how much it affects

[obtuse lintel]

wait you mean after pillars?

[mortal jetty]

If you were in EU i could record a run for you but you are in sea and have 10 more D

[mortal jetty]

After sena ult

[obtuse lintel]

oh

i can try that

[obtuse lintel]

i cant

its like it doesnt recognize the boss hitbox

when i do qte weap it only charges half the bar

[mortal jetty]

You probably need to delay her qte a bit

[obtuse lintel]

[mortal jetty]

Yeah because qte didn't hit

[obtuse lintel]

ye

[vernal terrace]

So low

[mortal jetty]

7 more points...not bad

[obtuse lintel]

ty

[obtuse lintel]

[vernal terrace]

I'm at 710

[mortal jetty]

Why so low?

[vernal terrace]

[hearty yacht]

fdd chenxue

[vernal terrace]

[mortal jetty]

Ago peeps should not speak

[vernal terrace]

Damn

[mortal jetty]

Make sense...

[vernal terrace]

[storm ocean]

Does fdd have a support tag for HS?

[mortal jetty]

They probably don't have a third support for HS

~~Riley started hi3 yesterday ~~ | jk

[vernal terrace]

I have thel but FDD is helping cause of Chen

[mortal jetty]

Why not using thelema

[vernal terrace]

Less DMG

[mortal jetty]

You can use chenchen just for the ARi sp

[mortal jetty]

Are u sure?

[vernal terrace]

Yes I tested

[mortal jetty]

Really weird

[obtuse lintel]

and you saying im low

[plucky swan]

he has more than you tho

[languid scroll]

Who should I buy? Thunder or Void?

[crude cloak]

None of the WT valks are useful as actual valks

!faq wt

[night parcel]

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• After that, unlock everyone else for dorm progression.

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[dusky mantle]

Wow the discrimination

[sullen shadow]

how do you dodge Merciless Denial (the attack that stuns you) when fighting Sprout of Wishing? I can't seem to be able to do it the normal way

[spiral raven]

do u have recording or picture

but if yellow light then jump

if purple you evade

[sullen shadow]

I'm talking about this one

where it shoots a homing bullet

I tried to dodge, jump and even deflect it

[spiral raven]

looks like you just dodge normally

not really familiar with that atk cuz boss should die before then

[sullen shadow]

from the looks of it, you need vita with mecha mode to dodge it

I haven't seen anyone dodge it any other way

[spiral raven]

well, i won't lie I don't recall seeing that attack at all, are you sure you're not doing something wrong, it shouldn't take you 16+ seconds and still not in p2

[open bone]

It doesn’t look like they have VBM buffs up

But maybe I’m blind

[spiral raven]

i don't see it either

[sullen shadow]

the picture is from a guide video, I don't have a full setup for the boss

it's the only one where I couldn't dodge an attack, it's most likely intended to happen

[open bone]

If the guide video is taking that long to kill sprout of wishing it’s probably a bad guide

What team are you using

[lapis raven]

was her bar filling up even as she dodged

cos if yes then its a bug that was around only on her debut patch

[sullen shadow]

The guide is fine, it was just showcasing the attack. I beat it with Agent Rita solo + units to trigger stellar passive. Obviously not an optimal team, that wasn't what I was looking for, just for a way to dodge that attack. I'm afraid there isn't one.

[lime grail]

hi noob

[dapper roost]

I'm watching some youtube guide and Im noticing that his S0 ME has 1499 ATK while mine only has 1404. Why such a large difference? Even if I minmax my refine I don't think I can make up such difference

[dusky mantle]

dkey

probably

[open bone]

Dorm levels too maybe

[dusky mantle]

any trio ref

[dusky mantle]

ah fuck it

let future problems be solved by future me

[steady osprey]

divine keys sync

on the other hand, i assume u reached max dorm squad for the buff(s) as that is grindable

[lapis raven]

hi babes

rahhh easy game

gonna get t10 myriad all in my lobby next cycle

[lapis raven]

ton of them have already mentioned dkeys, be it collecting them or having the syncs. another one would be affixes tho that wldnt be that big of a difference maker

[elfin parrot]

ultimately every source of attack matters to reach that final total

the more major and basic stuff are

• valk level
• valk rank
• weapon level
• stigmata level

not as major but more out of the way/long term/takes more attention

• stigmata affixes
• emblem
• divine key syncs
• dorm squad

[lapis raven]

theres probs an faq that sai can pull up about dkeys too

[elfin parrot]

and of course atk isn't the only thing in the equation for your final damage. Don't forget other minor multipliers like from emblems or gene limit as well

!faq dkey what

[night parcel]

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[elfin parrot]

this one?

[lapis raven]

aops too^

[lapis raven]

yuh

[lapis raven]

for emblem, theres only really two that provide atk and thats nirv and myriad emblems. the latter is hard to regularly get as an f2p on sea but the former isnt the hardest

albeit i’d assume it’d take u awhile to get ur acc into a decent spot to nirv bounce since u sound like ure very lacking in dkeys

[elfin parrot]

Dkeys have many different sources too like reserve works, realms of battle, foundry, exchange shop, maybe sometimes even events

overall when pursuing increases in atk/damage, be reasonable. It gets to a point where some of it is very minor and very out of your way that you only reasonably can get over a long term when the opportunity presents itself. You don't necessarily need every point in attack to reach sufficient scores either.

[lapis raven]

if u dont got nirv emblem the next best will generally be

• ma emblem
• ely paragon (phys; usually bleed phys)
• bringer of light (fire/ice)
• subspace anni (cdmg; only phys that can crit)

[elfin parrot]

i do feel we're starting to digress alot though. I do think it's called for but it might come off as overwhelming that it might be best to wait and see how they respond and if they want to know more

[lapis raven]

dkey syncs hv been mentioned a few times, they’re usually not to be really considered by f2ps unless on the very specific off chance of u needing something from a spending event and u having enough xtals to throw around for it

[steady osprey]

the guy was asking how to get 1499 atk on S0 ME though

[lapis raven]

u dont need syncs for that

my me affixes are shit and i only have one syn2 dkey

[elfin parrot]

i think it's important as well versed players to give an answer that's beyond the pure response of the question. In this case we did give a full response but also confounding surrounding factors to bear in mind related to that answer

[lapis raven]

here, -5 of this and thats full syn1

u can even -6 for nirv emblem and im still real close to the 1499, and again my helia isnt fully 23/23

dont even hv a single 23 line on her

[elfin parrot]

btw the next abyss is Ignite HoI and not symphony right?

what is going on with arustats these days...

[vernal terrace]

Yeah it's Ignite

[lapis raven]

i think im cooked; im going nirv with no chen

[vernal terrace]

Wait Symphony HoIce?

[lapis raven]

[weak drum]

sub perfect affixes and no waxing

[lapis raven]

ches dont bully me if im in ur lobby thanks

[weak drum]

im not nirb dont wory

[lapis raven]

woohoo

[weak drum]

i didnt want to play a rita cycle without sena weap

decided to sleep in rl

[vernal terrace]

[lapis raven]

two sub 20 lines

[weak drum]

ew

imagine

[lapis raven]

had to use a 23/23 on t just so she isnt so depressing to look at

ches i made an egg mayo sandwich earlier rahhh

[elfin parrot]

i'm not even sure if i want to promote into nirv next cycle when i don't have CX lol

[lapis raven]

im doing it cos 20xtals is 20xtals

[elfin parrot]

it looks like Bloodthirsty afterwards isn't HLE dps but rather Badum dps? Or maybe i'm just looking at whale refs

[lapis raven]

why not sena

[weak drum]

should be badum regardless?

[elfin parrot]

well in my case i don't want to go in just to demote when the two cycles after are possibly retainable to me

[vernal terrace]

Badum Vita FDD or HLE
Idk what does better

[weak drum]

hle should win ngl

[lapis raven]

vita fdd is crazy

[vernal terrace]

What I saw CN side

[elfin parrot]

vita fdd is what i'm seeing actually but there's syns lol

[lapis raven]

dalao

[weak drum]

insane

[vernal terrace]

Probably whel team then

[lapis raven]

im sea so even if a weather looks retainable to me its really not retainable

[elfin parrot]

i didn't look closely though

and i don't 100% trust CN refs anyway

[vernal terrace]

[lapis raven]

if i were eu bro i swear

[weak drum]

they love to rat in the refs

[elfin parrot]

half the time some dist or account difference makes me use something else

or i just see something weird in it i don't agree with

[weak drum]

the title clearly said 6s and the run was fucking 9s

[lapis raven]

i’d be bullying kids in nirv with nothing but ss sonkop

[elfin parrot]

lol

[weak drum]

i got scammed so hard while trying to follow it

[lapis raven]

nah i think ur chinese is just shit

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

i think i can distinguish between a 6 and a 9

69 (nice)

[lapis raven]

nah u cant

[vernal terrace]

Smh ches

[lapis raven]

whats this number: 9

[weak drum]

7

[lapis raven]

6 7

[vernal terrace]

No

[weak drum]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-67-67-meme-gif-790679381357533721

[elfin parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-never-silly-gif-12845469456829762218

[weak drum]

what in the hacking car

[lapis raven]

lol ches my whole rl lobby used hle

[vernal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-honkai-impact-bye-gif-23947275

[lapis raven]

no one used thel

[weak drum]

probs just blindly followed the ingame rec

no one in my bracket used thel too

[elfin parrot]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aHrjBqE5p/ you whale

[lapis raven]

like last bull it was thel too so why not this bull

[lapis raven]

send it to nate not me

[weak drum]

what in the sss sena

[vernal terrace]

Tbf this one is tanky

[lapis raven]

just atk more

[weak drum]

what is it with me and having my valks stuck at ss3

horb is gonna be ss3 too what the heck

[elfin parrot]

it sure is going to be fun helping people during bloodthirsty weather

[weak drum]

add in more rat eva wa

[elfin parrot]

because that weather is all about kill buff stack management

[lapis raven]

no its called trauma inducing

[weak drum]

its the gather that was so traumatic for me

[elfin parrot]

you can lose so much points just from blindly rotating and not paying attention to your stack refreshing and expiring

[vernal terrace]

Only two people used Thelema in my bracket

[weak drum]

had to reset like 500 times on sena bc she refuses to gather that one mob

[elfin parrot]

oh yeah back with sena gathering the mobs was pretty awful

gotta keep yourself at a lower elevation

[lapis raven]

im gonna be so pissed cos no fws

[elfin parrot]

because mobs are heavy af

[lapis raven]

surely ss sena clutches up

[weak drum]

spamming too much tf can ruin the rot too

[vernal terrace]

Badum good

[weak drum]

middum

inb4 rl uses hle instead of boodum

[vernal terrace]

Ches mid

[vernal terrace]

Why not both

[lapis raven]

hle no fws supp

[elfin parrot]

but anyway keeping your full 8 stacks for the end can be really rough. I had one cycle where i purposely had to sit and stop before my last 12 mobs to let my current buff stacks expire

[weak drum]

damn

[elfin parrot]

so i can start a fresh 8 stack buff into the last wave of mobs

[vernal terrace]

Slacc

[weak drum]

hle fws fdd with ss chen or fws ps fdd s teri

[lapis raven]

not even t3

[lapis raven]

nah u shd let ur sena shine

[weak drum]

no weap sena is gonna outscore both of them

[lapis raven]

clearly

[vernal terrace]

I wish I could

[lapis raven]

cant be that hard

did u not get thel weap yet

[vernal terrace]

Rita did more DMG with this

[lapis raven]

yea, more dmg, but thel gets u more score im pretty sure

[elfin parrot]

sometimes you gotta go slow to go fast, or do less to get more

outburst is your peak damage so it can be worth giving up some earlier damage, to get into outburst sooner for better damage sooner

[spiral raven]

i did 705 ish on a broke acc

with thel yea

the potential is there

and also u get a lot more ari than i thought lol

[lapis raven]

im at like 620 eu nirv with no aop, and again with thel

[spiral raven]

even ds can get enough to ring

[lapis raven]

ya the transition so fun

[spiral raven]

and if u end ring earlier u can get full surplus

[open bone]

It’s not about dmg Riley

[lapis raven]

can evade till first surplus too

[open bone]

It’s about getting a second SO

Tho thel being faster than FDD

Also helps

[lapis raven]

i dont think my alt acc is in rl tho, shd be nirv so i cant try too much

[spiral raven]

as slow as hle is at killing the balls, if u ran rita hle thel, still is prob have to go hle pop balls with weap

u can throw weap the moment the balls rise up and becomes not visible kinda

also weirdly idk which buff that expires, but if u dont follow up with the ult immediately on thel after popping the balls on hle, thel would do a bit lesss dmg

[spiral raven]

well lets just say, for the img bull i evaded my ass off and it was not fun having to do it over and over again with little area for error

[lapis raven]

gang ur name too long whats shorter name u go by

also sss sonk or ss sera

i feel like sss sonk cld be better just because sera not sss

[vernal terrace]

What to do for P1-

[spiral raven]

call me lord i get called emi in my armada

[open bone]

Stellar outburst

[weak drum]

ok afk

[vernal terrace]

When

[spiral raven]

995 weap 993 thel jump ult, hle weap ult, rita qte weap combo insta SO

[elfin parrot]

become t1 at MA so i can call you afkarena

[spiral raven]

fund me

[lapis raven]

why weap

just 994 evade, 993 ult

[spiral raven]

u can tag the weap its a tiny bit of dmg, it dont matter unless u need that sliver, ~~ i did~~

[weak drum]

sairaan help in begin help

idk abt lower tier ma for that ques

[spiral raven]

i also did basic before SO, if i did eva weap it was like half a point slower

than doing basic into SO

[lapis raven]

s0 sena or sss vita

thinkge

[weak drum]

bita ez

[lapis raven]

vita so slow tho

[spiral raven]

sena

[vernal terrace]

HLE weapon at 995?

[weak drum]

just dont switch her in ez

[spiral raven]

oh mb 995 is still thelema, thel weap, jump ult

[lapis raven]

first rot no breach? fun

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

you're doing 2 SO you dingus

oh also that ma had 2 sss bosses, im fucking blind

[vernal terrace]

1st SO rot?

[lapis raven]

also i think nirv is 3

pretty sure i saw a ref and it was 3

[weak drum]

what in the 3 so

[lapis raven]

p1 is one, after transition u hop in, short rot, exit

[weak drum]

insane

[spiral raven]

p1 u SO p2 u also SO

[open bone]

Shadow combo evade wa wa wa wa shadow combo ult wa, if you have enough damage. If you’re overkilling do less if you’re not killing do more

[vernal terrace]

Just regular SO rot on both?

[spiral raven]

for me my p1 went like phantom combo phantom aa wa -> bar full ult end SO, use combo to get ari and kill

end up at 61 ari something like that, then i eva until full surplus

[open bone]

Yes but end early as soon as ult combo kills

That depends on ur dmg

So impossible to generalize

[spiral raven]

ye

anyhow for the broke acc with lvl 45 stigmatas and stuff, my p1 was 921

so u can do better than that at least

[lapis raven]

emi what s2 rita do

surely i can follow cn s2 at glb s0

[open bone]

More damage

[weak drum]

and tf on eva wa

[open bone]

Lots more dmg

[weak drum]

helps alot with doing the opening on rgb bena

[lapis raven]

ya i rmb that

[spiral raven]

just moar dmg thats it, but shouldnt affect the rot, for rgb benares it was just the opener but you can adjust it such that s0 rita still follows

probs can follow yea

[lapis raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iyi1B2E63/
omg ref with suisong

[lapis raven]

cldnt 😔

[spiral raven]

gg

maybe if it was ios

the other servers d is actually kinda close to us

or sometimes lower

ios is basically always +6 or +7d of us

can always follow that at least

[rare iris]

Our d is higher in atleast 1 of CN servers now when the bosses they had arrives on us

[spiral raven]

yea

https://tenor.com/view/scared-trembling-stare-shocked-blushing-gif-16081676

sea moar whel ?

[rare iris]

Actually, how many CN servers are they or it's just iOS and Android?

[vernal terrace]

Don't have the sp for that ult

[spiral raven]

ios andriod, 三服，四服，bilibili，宝服 (i dont know the eng name translation for where i type in chinese character), those are the main ones i can rmb off top of my head

they have many servers because its based off the phone vendors

i once did a summary in cn channel of all the servers, but ppl probs alr quit or something, idk whats up with those, havent been keeping up, tho im aware some did merge

[rare iris]

Which among in those servers dead? Lol

[spiral raven]

i heard 宝服 is relatively dead among those, the rest based on the leaderboards i saw, were more competitive

ios and andriod probs the two most compeittive

[rare iris]

What server was the 556D one for this lightning bull?

And 557D

China always makes things complicated

[spiral raven]

no idea, its common for these servers to have same d sometimes, but for 556 specifically what i saw was 四服

so probs less competitive than ios and andriod

[spiral raven]

looks like could be andriod

[spiral raven]

that would mean u did too less evades?

i got up to like 156 sp ish?

[vernal terrace]

Not easy on mobile

[spiral raven]

well

yes but not asking to replicate all the evades u can easily do on a pc no

u have some excess

[lapis raven]

tsk my sena cant oneshot balls with both sss sonk and ss sera

even on full surplus grr

[spiral raven]

actually i had that issue before randomly back then on the img bull

the only plausible explanation is that somehow thel or rita's buff expired on sena

when you did the ult

it was really weird

[lapis raven]

dint take note

[spiral raven]

i see, but yeah, maybe try a bit more? and pray that it magically resolves itself lol

cuz i dont rmb doing something different but clearly i did do something different later and i've always 1 tapped the balls since then

i found the vid lel, max surplus on img bull and yet sena didnt kill.
later on it kills tho, just like the lightnitn bull this cycle, it also killed https://streamable.com/y6vmu8

weird game

[lapis raven]

also can we talk about how bad thels evades are at 60fps i cant chain more than 3 evas per charge im so tilted rn

[rare iris]

What's the damage looking? Make sure you also had 5 rocks destroyed for this boss cause it gives you more damage instead of sp like img bull

[spiral raven]

might need to start from further

[rare iris]

And yeah, some buffs prolly expired too before Sena ult cause there really is little time left when the orbs gets to receive damage if you clear p1 with ult, so have to tighten the Ult usage with Sena as well.

[lapis raven]

yea im hitting all 5 rocks

mm probs my cleanup then, im not ending with ult

ig i need to redo p1

[spiral raven]

oh u doing the combo thing for ari

[lapis raven]

ya

[spiral raven]

makes sense but i still dno what i did wrong back then

[lapis raven]

ok ya i dont think i can mald this cycle 60fps does not allow me to farm that much ari

[rare iris]

Stay with the combo p1 clean up then and just switch the order in orb phase

Thel will be the one breaking and Sena Ults the bull

Well assuming she doesn't break them with Ult as well so she can moi them to proc the drain lol

[lapis raven]

interesting

[lapis raven]

i managed to get sena ult to one tap now, so its likely due to buffs

that cld help my ds run tho

[spiral raven]

wat a pro

[obtuse lintel]

[mortal jetty]

Nice...
Asaphie is never wrong

[vernal terrace]

[pale musk]

Sena doesn’t have enough sp to ult if I use her first

[swift osprey]

What are the best remembrance sigils for hi love elf and miss espionage? (ER)

[craggy plume]

Have you read the pinned signet guide?

[vernal terrace]

Was about to send that

[swift osprey]

Yes but i was just wondering if thorny crown and because of you were special

[quasi pier]

thorny crown makes the run harder for yourself

[swift osprey]

A

[craggy plume]

Because of you is run to guarantee second ego signet

[vernal terrace]

Doesn't it make you 1 hp?

[swift osprey]

And is that needed ?

[quasi pier]

every nexus you get lowers your max hp by 1000

until you're left with 1 hp

[vernal terrace]

Not necessarily for HLE since she gets a second Ego at the start without it

[quasi pier]

all flamechasers start with 2 egos

[swift osprey]

Oh

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[swift osprey]

But for Rita I should get it then

[craggy plume]

Not necessarily, I would only run it if you are doing LITE and else use dreamful gold or whatever it recommends later

[swift osprey]

I thought it was specific to Elysia flame chaser battlesuit alright ig

[quasi pier]

nah, pardo, eden, fu hua, etc get 2 at the start

[swift osprey]

I see, also is there a difference between lite and normal run in term of rewards ?

[craggy plume]

No

[quasi pier]

no

[craggy plume]

Main difference is that you don't get an early shop with LITE

[quasi pier]

lite just skips to the first boss

[swift osprey]

Yeah I meant like I didn't know her latest battlesuits allow that

[vague raven]

does anyone know what to do with this? been trying, just retrieved it after being inactive for 2 days then exited for a few minutes and when i came. back it showed this, already emailed hoyoverse support still no reply

[swift osprey]

Thanks guys

[craggy plume]

#🔌technical-help

[pale musk]

How can I change this run to make it go faster? P2 is the main issue and I've been told to ring right away but it's been worse than my better scores. I'd like to aim for 630 to be safe but if I can make it to t5 that'd be cool.

I forgot to post the run gimme a sec

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/99Pfu3PMLKg here is run

https://youtu.be/3GDlGJHptgA run made slightly better

I just got to 618, I'll show in a sec

[stiff wigeon]

I need some help , my dorm comfort is stuck at 3060 and cant go any further since most of the furniture is locked? I bought all the others anyway to increase my dorm comfort?

[delicate raven]

!faq comfort

[night parcel]

Dorm Comfort

Let's get building, Captain!

Click here to see the more in-depth guide from TencentDimepiece!

It is not worth buying the Beach Dorm. It is not worth increasing your Comfort beyond 2400 because the Onigiri regen is 17/h until 4800 Comfort then it become 18/h, which needs the Beach Dorm anyway.

If you want to know the secret to farming Honkai Blocks (please never spend coins on Dorm materials), [click here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[delicate raven]

check that guide, in short, depending on "how much furniture" you can place in each room on your current level, is the quantity you want to buy of the items show before. it is not necessary that you place it, only that you own it

[finite barn]

i cant seem to kill all the phase 2 start balls for this boss with trio immediately am i not supposed to be hitting them with hotr combo?

[crude cloak]

Remind me, do you not have HLE?

Actually, nvm, you might have ARI issues cuz DS

[quasi pier]

no you do it with hofi

[crude cloak]

Anyway, what I have done for P2 (with HLE tbf) is 2 mini SOs, here's the first one: SO when balls stop being invulnerable, make sure the wave hits all of them -> Sena Phantom (not Thele/HLE, very important, balls won't get hit otherwise) -> CA + Thele/HLE Phantom -> finish SO

Between SOs you just rebuff and do the usual

I don't think you'll manage to farm up enough ARI during the transition if you kill P1 with ult, either don't use SO there or finish it even earlier

[crude cloak]

(you can farm noticeably more than what you have managed to do, gotta spam faster)

[crude cloak]

The end of the first P2 SO can be adjusted depending on your damage, the second Phantom was used mainly cuz of Sera's ARI regen

Also that's the slackest bracket I've ever seen xdd

I wouldn't use Sena's ult on P1 btw

Better keep it for P2

[spiral raven]

evade more

[plucky swan]

@cyan surge RL EU

[pale musk]

I skipped
I have 4star Kiana or s Teri but that’s probably worse. For some reason I’ve been able to use Sena’s ult (as you can see in the later vid) in p2 and 1 so it might be an evade thing. Do I rebuff right after finisher or do some attacks first? Anyway I’ll try this stuff later to see if it works. Ty

[crude cloak]

4* Kia can be worth trying

Doesn't matter too much when you rebuff as long as you don't spend any time without the buff

I did right after

It's a good idea to try to nail some evasions in P1 with Rita's kick spam WAs

1-2 should be enough

Can be done somewhat consistently

[spiral raven]

have you tried phantom combo phantom aa wa ult wa combo p1, does it kill, but yea try something like end SO earlier and then finish with combo out of ring

lets you get some ari, if you not good with evades

[finite barn]

ah ok i will try that instead

[pale musk]

how long is mps's buffs?

and what triggers it? the full ke attack or ult?

[open bone]

MPS has buffs on attack hit and on ult

Share a glass (stigma buff) is any attack and stellar surplus and SO. In WoD it’s also activated when any WoD character hits the enemy.

Weapon has another TDT buff on ult

Both for 25s

[pale musk]

so these are both separate buffs? And they all last 25s?

[open bone]

Yep

But share a glass refreshes on retrigger

So it should always be up for Rita dps

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/U1l5Iw2xXvA Ok I tried what you said here. I'll try one version with Kiana ELF and then one version following #💁gameplay-help message

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/nbzOBQe8j3s got it.

They're pretty similar

https://youtu.be/kHr4oV5GZIY ok and here's the one where I followed afklord's p1 combo idea.

So the best for p1 at least seems like with the normal rotation I've been doing. What do you guys think?

[crude cloak]

I think you should try using Kia here

[finite barn]

ugh i got 645 with trio and retain in my bracket is 660... but i cant see anywhere to squeeze out 15 whole points... my finishing rot is limited by hotr switch cd not damage...

[crude cloak]

2 mini SOs doesn't look like the play in your case

[spiral raven]

bro wat u didnt even do what i said

u need to have combo ready before u close ring

u just gimp ur self that way

[crude cloak]

The point is to proc 2 Stellar Drains before transition that way

[spiral raven]

u dont need to proc 2 stellar drains tho, just the drain on the combo is fine, and u mean like using thel to trigger the drain before the evades?

pretty sure that slows the boss down a bit so i wouldnt bother

[crude cloak]

Rita procs Drain twice

[spiral raven]

yeah isnt that only the initial

[crude cloak]

Wdym

[spiral raven]

algs i cant count

[pale musk]

I didn't record but the run was similar to this except I skipped Sena ult in p1 https://youtu.be/3GDlGJHptgA?si=qE3iNKNjGaF90Om- and was able to get SO pretty quickly in p2 Still I'll try your suggestions.

[pale musk]

you said "aa wa ult wa" I interpreted as only use wa once

*before ult

[spiral raven]

i said combo after, which means u kinda have to get combo ready

ig mb but i thought that was obvious

[spiral raven]

also bro yea u got SO fairly "quickly" when u waste 20 points to get the ari for ring

ur p1 still looks like it overkills as well

ur still only getting like half of the evades of what you can get

[pale musk]

for Thel in transistion ? I probably don't know how to if that's the case.

[plucky swan]

eva eva jump?

[spiral raven]

idk there's a lot of ways to do it, u just havent seen one or

[crude cloak]

Just spam jump and eva as fast as you can

[pale musk]

I thought it was jump eva jump eva or just spam both

[crude cloak]

Like actually lock in there

[pale musk]

I thought I was and that's kinda the problem here

[spiral raven]

u can use the start of this as reference on what you should get at least?
should be easier to follow cuz this was lower fps?
https://streamable.com/yxy63q

normally u can do a lot more tho

[pale musk]

I don't even know how they have time to walk around between the bull dashes

[spiral raven]

because when the bull is closer to the wall, you would position yourself to be ready for the next dash

[pale musk]

he's too fast to be that ready for the next dash though

[spiral raven]

wat

[pale musk]

check my runs, the bulls about ready to run before I even touch the ground

[spiral raven]

he can turn sooner sometimes but that's still okay because you dont need to walk to be ready

you dash to the next position to align urself

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/-qcZ4JHkNQE anyway finisher killed so do I keep the ke for p2?

I ended up getting higher score for p2, this is the 2nd half of that run. I think I could have gotten better if I saved Sena ult for p2

[spiral raven]

whats with 3 min pause

[pale musk]

reading your stuff

oh no I think I was checking my previous run

[spiral raven]

u should just dont bother ulting early then

[pale musk]

and reading

[spiral raven]

[spiral raven]

the whole point of having bar up is so you can finish p1 with the combo

[pale musk]

sena ult early or rita ult early outside of SO

[spiral raven]

im saying p1

p1 dont rita ult that early

and just save it so u can close ring sooner

the reason why u overkill or kill with finisher is cuz u cant even close ring early anyways

[spiral raven]

we've been telling you to do this, and so what this should imply to you is that if you are killing with the finisher, maybe change the rot up so u dont end up killing with the finisher perhaps?

[pale musk]

Didn't kill with finisher yet stellar drain didn't register.
I'll skip sena ult

[spiral raven]

but like wiht how late u are ringing jsut do what i said at the very start

like phantom aa? combo phantom aa ? ult wa combo wa
or like phantom eva weap combo phantom eva weap ult wa combo wa

u can skip sena ult here but it doesnt change that , ideally u dont overkill too hard with ur combo wa

[cunning gull]

idk how embedded files work but can it be refreshed? since theres missing stuff for both the schedule and abyss lineup

[lament prairie]

ya done

tyty

[pale musk]

What did you mean by “u can’t even close ring early?”

[spiral raven]

cuz u ulted in p1 on rita the moment u qte in, and then when u later have more enough dmg to try end SO and do combo wa to finish p1, ur ult still on cd

[pale musk]

I’m sorry, I should have been more specific. I should have asked how I could fix my rotation so I could kill with charge attack. I was probably too busy at the time to think clearly.

[spiral raven]

literally try this?

dont know what ur dmg is like at those points

cuz u never tried it out

[pale musk]

I didn’t see that, probably because i had to go to some thing at that time. I’m sorry.

[spiral raven]

i mean dont need to apologize or anything cuz its not even my score xd?
but im just saying you kinda figure out by trying different things

its probably easier? to start with something that does not have enough dmg but brings the boss to pretty close hp

and then fit stuff in the combo

[pale musk]

Was “phantom aa? Combo phantom aa? Ult wa combo wa” one rotation I could try or multiple?

[spiral raven]

its meant like one full string, i felt like its pretty common where ? means optional

[pale musk]

I thought you were ending a sentence or substituting it for a comma

[spiral raven]

so like u start with phantom then you can include two basics, then combo phantom basics, ult wa is just you ending ring, combo and wa hopefully finishes

but like whether its basics that you use in between

or its eva weap

or you fit a basic just before ring

like that stuff is up to you to figure out

you did the full basic +wa string (triple wa) after phantom and it felt like that's prob something u shouldnt do, cuz once u did that, you can't stop half way, and then ult wa will just overkill

so you rather just add some basics after phantom or you do eva weaps

[pale musk]

Ok, thank you.
I’m not confident yet enough to know whether something is working or not, which is why I often ask here. Ig I can experiment and show results - that work.

[spiral raven]

well like you just simply try to reason if its working or not. i dont know why u dont bother try to first think of it urself

[pale musk]

I didn’t think that was an option during ring, so ty for telling me that

[pale musk]

85% of the time I assume I’m dumb or doing it wrong, that’s probably why.
Or laziness.

[spiral raven]

like if adding a combo in SO lets you kill with finisher, but its kinda overkill (p1) ?
then maybe end the SO earlier and not do the combo in SO, but do the combo out of ring,
its like same time taken but you end ring sooner + you proc drain sooner

like idk what to do say other than just try stuff out ig

[pale musk]

I’ll try and think that way for next time. Thank you.

[loud cave]

Guys j need help with Elysian realm what build do I do that's f2p for Rita I have her stig but I have azure as her weap I need help with her thingy I forgot what u call em when u finish a floor 😭

[vernal terrace]

Tap/click the first link
That should help ^^

[loud cave]

Who's ae and mps again

[loud cave]

And tyy

[cunning gull]

azure empyrea and mad pleasure shadowbringer
use glossary for this: #👶beginner-help message

[loud cave]

What do these usually mean

The sigil ones

[open bone]

At the start you can pick two items. They do things like “get an extra ego signet” or “make a type of signet more likely to appear” or “increase the level of this signet by 1” or such

[craggy plume]

You can also change the one you are currently using at the shop

[loud cave]

Ohhhhh I've been so stupid.. That's why I can't clear faster..

I've been using some wrong signets

[lapis raven]

whats the highest no fws score on sa

[spiral raven]

i saw this
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1w1FveFEmU/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

but maybe try running hle with helia/cora ? they can buy a lot of time

[lapis raven]

highest i saw only 792 with hle hrb paw

[spiral raven]

true

i forgot about horb

[surreal citrus]

should i roll vita weap on armament

i got her on carnival and never got her wep

[craggy plume]

I would not get it, she doesn't get that many bosses anymore and would save to next patch.

[surreal citrus]

i see

whenever i need vita as like a last ditch support i just give her senas weapon but it feels cope

[craggy plume]

She gets Andrius around 1 time each patch and the cope options also do acceptable for a RL retain on it, so isn't really worth it

[open bone]

Armanant asc is for whales looking to rank / sync up

Mostly

If your Vita is S0 you won’t be best in bracket on her shill anyway and you can probably cope without her on those rare occasions it happens

[surreal citrus]

idk why i even got her on carnival

[spiral raven]

wait for bp

[surreal citrus]

i literally only use her when its time for coralie dps

[craggy plume]

For EU RL at least, you can certainly get points with S0 vita on her shill in my experience. Nirv is of course a different story.

[surreal citrus]

its kind of a shame because i really like vita and back when she came out it looked like she was an OP generalist support that had a lot of longevity

and by the time i got her she was already a mid valk

[craggy plume]

She has had a lot of general use but the long field time does hurt her support viability for a lot of cases

[spiral raven]

well she covers many rings, and still have a lot of weather she supports well enough, without weap it hurts a bit but its still good enough for rl if support

[craggy plume]

Yes, I still use her a decent amount as support but the performance gain from weapon isn't worth it for support use.

[spiral raven]

was replying to the other person

[lapis raven]

chat what er diff do i do to farm levels for pissold valks

[spiral raven]

da lowest one

or u lite on highest and farm the first boss enter next floor quit ig

[lapis raven]

7t or 3rd sacred relic for striker

[lapis raven]

ya no way striker is gonna kill huo at 2.25

[spiral raven]

7t

[lapis raven]

atk that big huh? alr

guess i made the spirit for nothing lmao

[spiral raven]

u can salvage

[lapis raven]

yeaa

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267065291368566806/1401188988957491310/1352732798737186977.webp

[lapis raven]

cooked

sss and my atk less than my ME ok bro

[spiral raven]

kek

[spiral raven]

i feel like tho with the lowest difficulty u can just unga bunga and choose whatever buff u like

2.25 or anything like that, u still have to look a bit.

and when it comes to grinding the mentally easiest one is the one that tends to feel quicker

~~speaking from my maplestory experience ~~

also u can lite easiest one as well right

[lapis raven]

yea p sure

[lapis raven]

lmfao i hate this gamemode

[spiral raven]

where the augment upgrade

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260875029957181461/1347476836787159102/730e0cf3d7ca7bcbef1ae505f8096b63f624a8b3.gif

[formal wigeon]

What you doing with only 1 Ely bruh

[lapis raven]

its maxed i just used diff outfit

[lapis raven]

:3

[spiral raven]

oh

[lapis raven]

u need aug to even unlock her in er

[spiral raven]

true, u can play her with aug turned off tho

[elfin parrot]

maybe i should try a VE run in ER lol

[formal wigeon]

idt you can, I rember trying long ago

[shell quail]

pretty sure you can't

and StFu require 2 or 3 Ely signets to work

I can't remember if you really need Kevin, I get that she ults a lot but you probably can run Eden Su Apo Hua Pardo

any valk not able to spam weap active often is very hard to play in ER imo

[spiral raven]

well

u can cuz

the game forces it on even if you tun it off, its just some skills gets adjusted

but it plays the same

[spiral raven]

2 is enough

u can get 3 or even more if u want

[spiral raven]

well i just tried and it works just fine

[digital sky]

Wow im skill issued.

[spiral raven]

also if anything is really impossible you just run slot machine

[digital sky]

I never got close to 2 minutes with StFu

[digital sky]

.oh oh okay

[spiral raven]

i mean its lite

[digital sky]

Yeah

I still never got close even with lite

Actually i prob need dirac

[spiral raven]

u can get sub 2 but like need planning ig for actual runs

[digital sky]

I dont own dirac. So

[spiral raven]

nah u just do ely set

dont need dirac

[digital sky]

I dont own ely set. So

[spiral raven]

oh

[digital sky]

Yeah im screwed

[spiral raven]

bro its free

[digital sky]

Nu uh

It costs
Ether fuel and
G4 phys

[spiral raven]

wat were u doing when mpe releaseed

thats free

[digital sky]

Playing genshin..probably? Or living life idk

[spiral raven]

[digital sky]

I didnt play hi3 till 6.3 last week

(Or 5.8 for 5 minutes)

[spiral raven]

leftover

[digital sky]

I grinded handel first anyways

[spiral raven]

i think i had 2k at one point

[digital sky]

Took me to 7.2

...it was sad.. but then my aponia found use

[spiral raven]

[digital sky]

Then obviously shes useless now

[spiral raven]

so what physical stigmatas do u own

[digital sky]

Peri

HoRb

Yeah thats about it

Oh yeah prom

[spiral raven]

actually peri not bad

[digital sky]

But like

The 3pc is useless (obv ignoring the first and last sentence)

Idek how the 2pc would work

..and yeah

Thats it

[spiral raven]

what u mean, u do ult often on stfu

[digital sky]

Hm

[digital sky]

Its a 1s buff

With an 8s cd

[spiral raven]

yes, guess what it buffs

pardo enhanced

[digital sky]

Cdmg and phys dmg

Oh

Uhm that was my 2nd guess

[spiral raven]

but like yea 2nd piece useless unless u have quick hands to make it one eva aa work ig

3 piece looks fine tho

[digital sky]

3pc phys dmg wont work

[spiral raven]

why phys dmg won't work

[digital sky]

Its 60 sp at once

Or 120 (but lol no)

[digital sky]

She consumes 20 then 2 sp/s

Or something like that

Id have to look

[spiral raven]

ah right

its the state

i mean tbh tho

i was overkilling quite hard

but yeah thats right she don't eat the buff

only rmbered that it requires 100 to activate

lol

but at the same time its like

[digital sky]

[spiral raven]

ur not missing too much

lol

[digital sky]

True

[spiral raven]

about this misremembered, there's a signet for stfu where u recover 4 balls and u do 1200%

so stfu does get stacks back when ult so that eats it at least

but yeah pardo one idk what affects it, maybe just tdt and tdm

[formal wigeon]

this means you can't

[spiral raven]

right and what i meant was that you can have augment turned off and still go in

[formal wigeon]

You said "you can play her with aug turned off", you can press "play" with it but you can't play it

[spiral raven]

well play = enter

but sure

does game max out ur augment for u tho

[lapis raven]

what weap does ritual imayoh want

rentry said positron but that shit seems to just be atk stat

[spiral raven]

just gib hov's weap if u pri'd it

[spiral raven]

but yeah atk stat all that matters

[lapis raven]

no dov

guess im slapping hfi dk on her

[spiral raven]

it probs work yea

[dusky mantle]

Its for the aesthetics

[scenic trellis]

any idea on who to use this abyss?

[spiral raven]

well actually if u somehow have built sirin can use her with hotr and spork assuming they all built
lol

but otherwise something like ps lead?

oh u can just try bruteforce on vita

didnt realise u have ss vita

[scenic trellis]

only built p2 valks so not possible xD

gonna try bruteforce vita then

[mortal jetty]

Or badum dps

Badum sparkle vita

[half hatch]

yeah prob badum/ps dps here

vita won't cut it with the 2/3 RoO

[lime grail]

since we on the topic of sparkle

what does sparkle's ult even do for p2 chars 🥀

i know on p1 she gives ignite + ult cd red but for p2 idek

[steady osprey]

same effect

[boreal eagle]

why ref use helia wa and ult instead of qte and ult there is some buff with helia's wa ?

[steady osprey]

maybe he want to avoid the qte switch cd?

[vernal terrace]

Think it's just QTE/Ult that gives the buff

[boreal eagle]

impossible https://youtu.be/3IHkhtzuL88

at 1:07

[vernal terrace]

Wait is PAWS qte off?

Maybe that's why

[steady osprey]

but why its off

[vernal terrace]

Faster maybe?

[steady osprey]

maybe wa + ult is faster than qte + ult bcs he also want ari

[vernal terrace]

[boreal eagle]

for me seems slower