💁gameplay-help

[elfin parrot]

this is different from more modern world star teams though

ok actually i'll explain the technicalities now

since you're probably thinking about how you do hear the detonate sound effect from sena and helia

[regal plume]

Ahh ok so if we take sparkle for example you do stellar outburst and use her6 ball things and then swap to vita or smth ?

[elfin parrot]

sena and helia both detonate only once when they place down their marks

[regal plume]

I didn’t know there was a sound queue 😂 I’ve only played GoI and WD really

[elfin parrot]

so for more typcial WS teams now, the leader places down their mark, and then all three valks on the team can detonate it

so sparkle sets up mark > pops it 6 times > each support also pops it 6 times each

the ball thing (elation) is just part of the process of doing so

[regal plume]

Ohhh so sparkle set up pop x6 vita pop x6 and other unit pop x6

[elfin parrot]

yeah

again this is different from the sena team you talked about earlier

but the general idea of Mark > pop is the same

[regal plume]

Ahhh ok so I think I understand WS now

[elfin parrot]

there can be more technicalities but yeah that's the main idea

if sparkle is not leader, she cannot place down marks. she only gains this function when she's a leader. Otherwise as support or leader, she can detonate

[regal plume]

Now to check if I understand the others so GoI
When ur dps goes into Stellar outburst the whole team shares SP IF they have the symbiosis thing and they can go into sp debt?

[elfin parrot]

sp debt is only for hle

paws doesn't have it

[regal plume]

Ahh ok

[elfin parrot]

GoI is all about spamming the ultimate of the leader

but obviously to spam ult you need to restore a ton of sp

the main thing about symbiosis supports is that they restore aloooot of sp in outburst

[regal plume]

Which is why FDD is good with both PAWS and HLE?

[elfin parrot]

yeah. ignore how fdd has roo. we can talk about that later

the main thing about fdd in this case is she has symbiosis

so she restores alot of sp for them during outburst, allowing them to cycle their ult attacks a second time

there's other tiny details too

like using an ult from a symbiosis support will refresh the swap cd and QTE of the leader

[regal plume]

Okkkk so when I go into stellar outburst with HLE and do 2x E hold bow and then swap into FDD to get the ult and sp regen and then back into HLE for 2xe bow and then Ult that’s good?

[regal plume]

AHHH THATS WHY I CAN CYCLE SO FAST

[elfin parrot]

if you don't have a second symbiosis support then i guess so. tbh i'm not the most familiar with this

[regal plume]

I have HoHe but she takes up a lot of field time

[elfin parrot]

you should probably use hohe in general as the second symbiosis support (not for this cycle since symphony buff is prob too big to ignore)

keep in mind while you may spend alot of time, it's about the final time and damage

[regal plume]

Ye ye my normal team is HLE FDD HoHe

[elfin parrot]

ah ok then

[regal plume]

I worry about SO running out before HLE can ult

[elfin parrot]

that shouldn't be a problem

HLE actually has alot of time to work with. We normally end her outburst when it's still 1/3rd remaining

ending it early refunds some ARI to recharge the next outburst sooner too

so sometimes we may only do one cycle of HLE stuff, then end it without swapping to supports

but if you're at the end of the fight, we can also just stay in outburst longer since that's where all her maximum support effects are

and just use the remaining time basic attacking

[regal plume]

Should we go to dm to not overwhelm the chat? Or u think it’s best to stay here?

[elfin parrot]

it's fine.

dm isn't preferred for many other reasons and nobody else is talking right now

i won't be able to point to pins or use faqs in a dm

[regal plume]

Ah true

So how does AR charging work that also confuses me

[elfin parrot]

uh in general?

[regal plume]

Yeah

Cus like some attacks give more

I think

[elfin parrot]

as you attack and hit a target you get 1 ari per rate of time

this timing can actually be slightly inconsistent depending on how precise you need to be in the fight

there's many other ways to gain ARI

another way is to ultimate evade an enemy attack

[regal plume]

So like every button of the character will give some intensity

[elfin parrot]

you get 2 team sp and 1 ARI every attack you evade properly (this is not related to evasion skills)

---

uh no

just attacking in any way will give that 1 ari regen

attacking in multiple ways doesn't accelerate it

---

one major way of restoring ari is to perform a stellar drain

at the start of the fight, each valk on the team has one invisible stack of this on hand

and they can trigger it with certain animatinos unique to each of them. usually it's a big animation attack

once consumed it usually restores 20 ARI if they match the ring type. Again some exceptions depending on the valk

obviously you can't just repeat the action over and over to constantly regen 20 ARI. It's a consumable that you cannot see

the way you restore it is using outburst

once outburst ends, all valks get one stack again

so basically you can trigger drain 3 times across the team per outburst cycle

[regal plume]

So take FDD for example it’s the enhanced skill after doing the basic string?

[elfin parrot]

the enhanced weapon attack yeah

[regal plume]

Ohhhhh k

So basically just use all the buttons on each character to get ARI

[elfin parrot]

anyway those are the more basic ways to restore ARI, but there can be other ways depending on the ring type, astral op, or even valkyrie skills

this write up is a little bit out of date #💁gameplay-help message but it covers a few others

the LoA link in the faq earlier was also updated recently

[steady osprey]

after malding for ari vs kevin bcs of ds im pretty sure u dont get 1ari/evade

or at least there is a cd

[elfin parrot]

there might be a cd. I know i ran into issues with evade > jump before

but in past cases we've seen jds rapidly evade farm (patched now) with no real cd either

honky janky idk

[steady osprey]

maybe it also depend on the valk. i only have 4ari after kevin openning

[crude cloak]

4 sounds too little

Should be getting way more

[regal plume]

Ok ok and now I wanted to check WD

So when ur leader goes into SO the other 2 if they have the trait can become shadow clones which let ur dps to special attacks like HoHe for example with her 2 special animations

[crude cloak]

Yes

[elfin parrot]

hm let me dm you something

[steady osprey]

yeah the openning has like 6 atk u can dodge before he become targetable

[crude cloak]

I think I'm farming up like 10

Going into the closest corner helps

[onyx swallow]

Is there a ref I can look into for the kevin fight
I have hle paws vbm, but idt anyone would be uploading with this team

I just wanna see a general flow of the fight and not exact rotations so a clear with a bit different team should be fine too

[crude cloak]

https://youtu.be/q8sCFprU1P4?si=zHAA_KIioXq8JDhs

They're a good source of RL refs in general

[elfin parrot]

I recommend reading the boss skill descriptions to get an idea what mechanics you're dealing with too

Mainly resist phase and status interactions

[crude cloak]

I don't think an opener like this is necessary btw

Just evade the attacks in the beginning on one of the supps

[regal plume]

So LOA u get an enhance qte right but does ur whole team get it if they are LOA or just the dps and a one time thing?

[crude cloak]

The entire team does, and it's about the tag in case of supps, not the type

Heavenly Shift tag to be exact

Each teammate can proc their enhanced QTE only once per SO activation (unless you have Theresa AO, in which case the DPS gets an extra proc)

[onyx swallow]

Where do I do that
Ingame?

[elfin parrot]

before starting the fight, click the boss icon/picture

[crude cloak]

Yes, you can press on the boss's icon in the stage selection menu

[onyx swallow]

Ah i thought it was only in ma thing
Idk why I thought that

[elfin parrot]

alot of it is kinda unimportant. focus more on the earlier ones that talk about the gimmicks

@regal plume lmk when you want to talk about RoO. I think that's the main thing we haven't talked about yet from earlier

[onyx swallow]

Ok!

Just to confirm paws qte doesn't apply the buff if I don't hit anything right?
So i should set up vbm buffs then stay on paws until I can ult and then continue with my rotation?

[onyx swallow]

I remember reading a few of them in the beginning and some of felt not very informative

[crude cloak]

Well, VBm's main buff requires hitting the enemy as well

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/ivcKqdh.png

https://i.imgur.com/ggyBI79.png

that's basically all i want you guys to read

[crude cloak]

So it can be smth like this: evade attacks -> apply VBm buffs -> do some damage on PAWS for the bar mechanic -> HLE

[regal plume]

Oh yes that one I only know that they can support all rings I have vita FDD VBM and HoFi and RoO unit

[elfin parrot]

it basically means you want to inflict statuses if reasonable to do so, and to control how you damage him so you aren't dealing resisted damage

[elfin parrot]

so firstly, all valks there have their own tags. if their tags matches, then we can ignore that they are RoO. The tags hold the higher priority.

[onyx swallow]

I think I can hit kevin at the start but he flies away before helia qte can hit iirc

[elfin parrot]

RoO as a support is a cope option overall

if you look at their tags, you'll see this one https://i.imgur.com/cXH4ZVu.png

[crude cloak]

I don't think Kevin is hittable in the very beginning

[elfin parrot]

i can't remember if the ice shower he sends down at the start is hitable or not (prob not?). i might be thinking of something else or some weird hotr stuff

[onyx swallow]

Can I realistically do anything about his detection state when vbm doesn't do dmg and paws is weaponless

[crude cloak]

The ice sword attack can freeze one of your valks and make them hittable by your other valks

[elfin parrot]

lmao oh ok

good to know. i definitely didn't know that one yet

[crude cloak]

Hieu does that, you can check

[elfin parrot]

hm yeah i'm not sure then

yeah i haven't checked yet. will do

[regal plume]

Yes I do see that one a lot

[crude cloak]

Oh, mb, it is the shower

Not the sword

[onyx swallow]

Oh so i was just imagining things ig
So I'll do what you suggested before

[regal plume]

Is HoFi pretty much useless cus she can only create domain marks so she’s useless outside of WS teams?

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/UtlS91a.png you can all astral ring valks have three levels of leader skills. So using an RoO valk to trigger the third gives you more max sp

[crude cloak]

She is pretty good in RoO DPS comps

But other than that yeah, she's copium in other ring types

[elfin parrot]

and in the astral ring section when HLE goes into outburst you can see that initial sp is 50% of max sp https://i.imgur.com/XJmxvJg.png

so that's how that higher leader skill translates to more SP for HLE letting RoO valk help her in outburst

[onyx swallow]

I see

Thx for the help guys

[elfin parrot]

[regal plume]

Ohhh ok

[elfin parrot]

---

anyway oxchre, RoO supports are basically for fulfilling leader effects if you have nothing else

[crude cloak]

Just try to make sure he doesn't get Ice res ig

[elfin parrot]

if you're using an RoO leader, then they're only going to want RoO supports too (unless it's fdd with paws)

[regal plume]

Ironic cus I have only RoO units xD apart from HLE HoHe and VBS

[crude cloak]

Though it might be possible to get the bar below 50% if you're smart about it

[elfin parrot]

as for hofi these are my thoughts #👶beginner-help message

[elfin parrot]

she doesn't create them. She only detonates btw

[crude cloak]

Smth like 1% Fire DMG, 26% Lightning and 25% Ice is success too

[regal plume]

Oh ok

[regal plume]

I got the weapon in 3 pulls

Last time I got 2 full iskandar sets

So either way w cus more AR units

[elfin parrot]

luck be luck but we don't know how it truly works. arguably that luck or however total you spent could be better allocated elsewhere

[regal plume]

I’m saving for Rita now

[elfin parrot]

i'm not saying this to regret anything though. Obviously what's done is done. Use HoFi the best you can currently and keep the ideas for future releases instead

rita is viable to consider but i'm currently not feeling strongly about her personally

!faq rates

[night parcel]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

make sure to keep the reliable costs in mind

[regal plume]

Ye I was advised against back pulling but I needed to do 3 pulls to get some stuff for returnee so I did it on the HoFi DK banner rather than RS so I can save pity for Rita

[elfin parrot]

oh ok

whether you roll on valk or weapon banner, there's some pity being built regardless

!faq supply

[night parcel]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

but yeah i think you pulling on hofi dkey was the correct choice

[regal plume]

Since I already has an iskandar set from when it originally came out

[elfin parrot]

getting lucky and breaking pity on something old isn't ideal if that luck can go towards something else but... hofi weap is still a dkey so +10 atk is very nice

[regal plume]

Better than having to get RS and her gear

[elfin parrot]

yeah

[regal plume]

I actually did pull on HoHe DK when it came back

[elfin parrot]

i have a pro and cons list for that too if you want lol

[regal plume]

This patch I got HLE 4/4 FDD 3/4 HoHe 4/4 and HoFi 4/4

[elfin parrot]

well what's more important is what you do from this point

[regal plume]

I pulled it cus I was told by a friend pull all AR units I can cus at the time I only had HLE and vita

[elfin parrot]

if you're low budget/f2p and care about meta, focus more on latest releases

and only when you can expect reliably to get valk and weap together

meta is only important because you get more crystals from abyss that way

but don't let meta force you into paying for a valk you don't like. it doesn't profit

[regal plume]

I’m f2p so I’m saving for Rita now I have 1.1k crystals so far just from today and Rita will be here for 6 weeks so I think I can get her 4/4

[elfin parrot]

hm i think that idea might be challenging

it'll depend on how many permanent stuff you haven't cleared yet

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

for now you can keep rita in mind but keep saving and reassess once you saved enough

roughly 40k is my recommendation assuming zero pity

we may get more news of other new valks by that time too

[regal plume]

57 drops

[elfin parrot]

then you can deduct accordingly

the idea is to get both valk and weap together

[regal plume]

I’m 99.9% sure who it is but don’t wanna say cus leaks

[elfin parrot]

don't mention leaks at all please

this is an official server

even alluding to any confirmed vague existence is an offense

[regal plume]

Ye ye

I think I have access to a decent amount of xtals

Cus I’m on chapter 40 of part 1.5

I have a bunch of past events and more story

[finite barn]

Keep in mind the patch after rita is gonna be cny which is usually a big patch for pulling and thus has a higher baseline of meta weight

Also a major spending event

[regal plume]

I thought Rita patch is CNY

[finite barn]

No

[elfin parrot]

she is not

[regal plume]

Ah

Well Rita is Rita and she’s WoD which is my Fav ring type so I think I will pull

[lament prairie]

Even alluding to the fact that you know more than what's officially available can get you in trouble, please avoid this in future

[regal plume]

Damn people so serious about leaks

[elfin parrot]

this is still an official server overall

it's not necessarily our personal idea but we're on official turf and agreeing to their policiies when we chat here

[lament prairie]

Yeah official servers like this one have absolutely zero tolerance of leak discussions

So just avoid them entirely

[elfin parrot]

i do appreciate your mindfulness though but yeah it's just a very sensitive matter

anyway if you're not sure if something is a leak or not, the simplest way to check is #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins. if it's not already there it might not be safe

and if talking about future content here, use spoiler tags

[regal plume]

Much more serious than genshin or HSR hahaha probably less ppl here

[regal plume]

Rita is fine tho right

[elfin parrot]

any story substance should be avoided completely too because people of different progression are here

rita is fine right now because on global server official media outlets she's been revealed

mainly public open beta on the west side

[lament prairie]

All official HoYoverse servers should have zero tolerance of unofficial info discussions/allusion

Anyway you get the idea so we can move on

[regal plume]

Probably too many people to monitor especially in genshin they have a 5 min cool down time for chats

[elfin parrot]

who knows. at any rate it's out of scope of here

[lament prairie]

5 min wtf lol

[regal plume]

Yeah 😭😭

[elfin parrot]

anyway is there anything else within the game i can help with before i hop off to eat? lol

sorry we had to run into leak policies stuff but you were fine for the most part. Feel free to continue asking questions here. (can even ping me if you need me in particular here but i can't guarantee i'll be available) Also check out pins in both help channels

[regal plume]

I think most of my questions are answered for now tysm for the help

[elfin parrot]

we definitely covered alot. maybe even review some of our discussion lol

and ofc try them out in practice

• abyss boss
• team building for symphony
• quantum in general
• scaling of older valks even with type advantages
• reading descriptions
  was the list i typed out earlier but then we went into multiple AR types lol

[regal plume]

High key the only part 1 valk I have 4/4 is mobius and she’s long powercrpet

[elfin parrot]

ah yeah

mobius is actually a really weird case

where she became relevant for one fight at vita's release

[regal plume]

HAHAHA NO WAY

MY GOAT

[elfin parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfLyLgdWZZw

[regal plume]

I have a some units 3/4 from part 1 like senti but others 1/4 or 2/4

[elfin parrot]

for the most part you can forget about them meta wise now. If you still want to discuss building them for fun on a budget we can talk about that too though

[regal plume]

I hyper invested in mobius cus she’s my fav

I got her 4/4 her outfit her elf and SS rank

[elfin parrot]

ss rank as in elf or herself?

herself is farmable in WT now

wait ELFs don't go by SS

they go by stars

[regal plume]

Herself

[elfin parrot]

ah then yeah. If you still want to build her, consider that then

[regal plume]

High key might have been playing her wrong

[elfin parrot]

War Treasury currency isn't as important as it used to be now so it's more fine

[regal plume]

I always did ult then q na until it runs out

But the vid was 2x q na and the 1x q na

[elfin parrot]

i'm a controller player so Q E stuff are a bit lost on me (i do understand the vague idea from GI)

you can look at the meter above her hp

[regal plume]

I’m saving for PE as my last valk from there then will start farming mobius currently farming SSS MPE

[elfin parrot]

you regain a bulb from various ways so you do want to consume them more than you gain them

mobius also does different attacks so there's some finer optimization going on but i don't know that topic as well

[regal plume]

Ye I always did the ult then the same button for ult to use a charge and then na to recover but in the vid he used 2 stacks then na then one stack then Na

[elfin parrot]

so the weapon has this https://i.imgur.com/nqiyVZU.png

i'm not sure if this is a primary purpose though. It's been a while since i've looked at mobius stuff it does come into play at a few points in the video (blue cd bar, leftmost icon on the right) https://i.imgur.com/v1bNdbI.png

loosely speaking i think i generally alternate between consuming 2 KE and 1 KE per BA

sorry i can't give a finer explanation to this. Sometimes kyoshiro does show up here too so you can try asking them when they're around

[regal plume]

Oke oke ty

[elfin parrot]

something not shown here is some fights have mobi consuming a KE at the start to summon her object early

since the object on field enhances her

prob to buff the damage from her QTE as she comes back in later after support effects are done

[regal plume]

I hear about her object a lot but I’ve never actually seen what it looks like

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/vo1OlRD.png

object X

look for the mini doll of herself

[regal plume]

Ahahahahahahha that’s so silly

And it boosts her damage etc

[elfin parrot]

it looks different with her skin too iirc. Just looks like this aquatic ring iirc

anyway you can read the last part here for creating it https://i.imgur.com/AOClLMZ.png

QTE also creates it https://i.imgur.com/sNmxb5t.png

but i assume the timing of its creation isn't early enough which is why people do what i said earlier

[regal plume]

That’s kinda crazy

[regal plume]

Probably why I haven’t seen it

[elfin parrot]

object x does help 2pc and 3pc at least https://i.imgur.com/hHh77fY.png

just trying to show you how all of this are in the descriptions

[regal plume]

That’s what it was

[elfin parrot]

there might be things i'm still missing

[regal plume]

I did actually read that one believe it or not

[elfin parrot]

and granted in some rare cases the game descriptions can be wrong or mistranslated

meh i can't get a good screenshot of object x with her costume lol

[regal plume]

Oh I saw it

I think this right

That thing on the floor

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/Leee3kO.png

yeah should be that

[rare iris]

Mobius discussion this early at my time

Made my day already

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/hiV6kH6.png

hi kyo lol

[rare iris]

Yo

[elfin parrot]

ok something urgent came up for me just now so you couldn't have shown up at a better time if they still have any further mobi questions lol

[rare iris]

Oi come back

[regal plume]

Oh it’s mobius guy from the video

[rare iris]

That guy suck yessir

[regal plume]

I want to ask why did you do 2x of her enhance attack with the ult button then NA rather than 1x then NA

[steady osprey]

have stacks available and that is faster dps. u burn through stacks though

2 ult + 1 atk

[rare iris]

That's right, there's more to it as well like her combo/ult induces sus ani and repositioning

I'm in the middle of work kekw, but I'll try to answer

[regal plume]

Ahhh ok ty

[rare iris]

Sus ani and repositioning alone helps a lot to control Andrius behavior

Especially with the additional mobs under it

[elfin parrot]

sus ani = suspended animations btw

generally refers to when an attack slows down the stage/enemies without time fracture/time stop/etc. (it can also slow down the memorial arena clock)

Sus anis aren't mentioned anywhere in the game. You just gotta learn what attacks can induce them

they're not always a good thing but in this case when the boss is moving so erratically it seems well appreciated

--
they can be bad if you finished phase 1 of a boss, need to wait for their animations to proceed to phase 2, but are slowing them down with it

[elfin parrot]

quick edit to this to add a picture

you can also see the duration remaining of mobi's ult (the icon with her face on it) https://i.imgur.com/XIHASzh.png. Ult last only a limited time so you do want to capitalize on it as much as you can if stack sustaining isn't an issue

https://i.imgur.com/KrNs0ZT.png

[regal plume]

[steady osprey]

usually supports buffs will run out before ur ult ends

[quaint saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8sCFprU1P4&t=36s

Hello chat, may I ask, how can you consistently do the 500k-ish dmg on the first ult charge atk of HLE? Cuz yesterday, i always do this rotation, but i always only do 250k-ish, half of what is expected, but just now, i tried it, and it became that 500k-ish dmg.

Do anyone know what affect that outcome?

[lime grail]

is trio better than hle if u dont have paws

[open bone]

If your trio has enough ranks it can be better than HLE even with paws

If your trio is unranked you might need some third cope comp

Idk who you have for part 2 battlesuits tho

[quaint saffron]

edit, i know now what affects it. You need to make sure the first normal string of coralie would hit Kevin. I think there's something tied to that first normal string timing that could affect dragon coralie's buff.

[lime grail]

its s0/ss/ss1

s0 hfi ss0 htr ss1 ho

[open bone]

I’d try trio but Sena or Thelema DPS are both also possible if trio can’t go the distance. Maybe lantern too

But that one would surprise me

Sena, Badum, HLE probably, whereas Thelema would be Lantern and then either Vita or Sena

[lime grail]

sena is s0 and thel is s2

ill try trio and then thel

[quaint saffron]

nevermind, this doesn't work- IDK what i did for that to work- HAHAH-

[elfin parrot]

if you have recordings of your successful and failed attempts, then maybe we can diagnose it

[hearty yacht]

are you asking about timing the last hit of your attack to get the enhanced weapon active?

[elfin parrot]

but half of your damage makes it sound like you're missing a support buff

[scenic trellis]

any idea on who to use this abyss

[hearty yacht]

hle fws hohe
can try sena thel fws as well

[elfin parrot]

keep in mind primary support effects are often on the 3pc of stigmata sets

[open bone]

Sena HLE Badum

[elfin parrot]

it's not always the case. For Coralie's case it's simply activating ult

[open bone]

Is better I think than either asu

[hearty yacht]

oh ye hle can support ws

[open bone]

You want weather bonus

[hearty yacht]

I forgor

[rare iris]

It's from hitting paws ult on the ice shards

[scenic trellis]

alright thanks ❤️

[hearty yacht]

thel would still give it

hle > thel tho

[elfin parrot]

yeah make sure paws qte/ult actually hits something

https://i.imgur.com/a1czopg.png

[quaint saffron]

i actually figured this one out now, surely, the helia should actually deal dmg on the falling icicles using her ult on the first phase. I guess i am swapping Helia on the first phase so fast that it doesn't deal dmg on the icicles, so maybe that's the buff i am missing then. XD

I thought coralie is the problem- 😆

[elfin parrot]

yeah prob. again i can't say for sure without seeing anything

but anyway what you said earlier about coralie basic attack shouldn't be anything.

you do need her basic seq, or qte to access enhanced weapon active for ult

[rare iris]

Easier tell for hitting paws ult on the ice shards is that it should proc her stellar drain

Or just you know

[elfin parrot]

they were looking at damage already

[quaint saffron]

yeah, thought that was it- 😆 turns out maybe it's that i timed helia to hit the icicles. XD thought i was smart there at first- like a eureka moment, but alas, it's a fail- HAHA-

[elfin parrot]

but yeah if using ult instead of QTE, ult will also trigger stellar drain

anyway do refer to skill descriptions to track the source of whatever effect you feel you are missing

in the future provide recordings for us to investigate if you can

sometimes we can exhaust all theory and the answer is something as silly as "oh my stigs/weapon weren't on"

[rare iris]

Just deal more demejj la

[lime grail]

🥀

this is rl too

[open bone]

Try Sena or Thelema then

[scenic trellis]

i tried sena/hle/badum this is what i did xD 426 never had a score this low i might be doing something wrong xD

[open bone]

Probably not engaging with mechanics properly yeah, or messing up rotation, maybe both

Post recording?

[scenic trellis]

sure but yeah i dont understand the mechs very well tbh

[lime grail]

🥀 🥀

what ever

[scenic trellis]

i messed up a little almost at the end but even then my score would be terrible, sending recording

[open bone]

He entered a repel lightning state

And then you kept using lightning attacks

[scenic trellis]

but i was on s0 and would finish badum and hle and he would still be in lighting repel i think

so would have to play sena right?

[elfin parrot]

i didn't watch the video but if you're already in stellar outburst, then you may consider delaying it for a greater opportunity to benefit from it

s0 is very confusing to read since that usually refers to valk ranks

in many cases in hi3, you can just blindly repeat a rotation against a boss over and over and then tweek it to optimize for speed to fit their hp bar

but this boss isn't one of those cases. You kinda need to tweek it so it matches its own repel state cycles

[scenic trellis]

yeah i was refering to SO mb xD i think i need to try with a different main dps, my sena isnt great, and shes missing 2 bis affixes

[elfin parrot]

sena prob isn't great since she's so old by now

affixes are very small in influence. I doubt that's the reason why she's subpar here

[scenic trellis]

to tired to try it today, thanks gonna grind it tomorrow

too see what works better and then might record again for tips or adjustments

if needed

[elfin parrot]

the general idea is to focus more on one element during the tracking phase

then use a different element during the resist phase

you also get a damage bonus from dealing enough during the tracking phase to capitalize upon during the resist phase

[open bone]

The way the repel state works is that the more elemental damage total you deal to him while charging, the more damage he takes after it, but it becomes a bad idea to use the same type you used to deal damage to him while it was charging

[elfin parrot]

so ideally it would be like something like 51% your non primary element during tracking phase and 49% of your main element so you're still dealing damage.

That 100% combined should be also enough to trigger thresholds to give you a buff in the next phase

in the next resist phase, the non primary element is resisted but you hopefully get the damage buff so you can deal buffed damage of your primary element

[open bone]

So for an HLE dps you do lightning damage with paws and then Dps with HLE after

For Sena you would do HLE primary to make him do an ice repel state

[scenic trellis]

oh thanks didnt get that first part until now

[open bone]

And then once it’s over you go Sena and do lightning stellar outburst

And that way your lightning damage isn’t all being wasted

[elfin parrot]

you also want to apply statuses if you can but i'll let someone else explain that, or for you to look at on your own later

[scenic trellis]

alright thanks a lot both i think i understand it now

[lament prairie]

does anyone happen to have the pwo shop unlocked with all stamps at the top? i.e., none of the stamp characters maxed

maxed ones go to the bottom unfotunately

(we need to update the pwo faq)

[cunning gull]

if you wait for me ill send a ss

[half hatch]

best i could give you is this, sadly some stamps are already purchased but those are all the stamps on one picture

oh opps

well now we have one

[cunning gull]

[half hatch]

i can also make my window bigger if it's better to show more of the stamps on the bottom my current window is just very smol for fps

[cunning gull]

actually can you also wait next patch because horb stamps will be added?

if you still want my ss i can send anyways even though mango's one is fine

[lament prairie]

GOOD IDEA ACTUALLY

Might as well wait then

[cunning gull]

[lament prairie]

its only like a week

[half hatch]

omg right

i still need to finish events

[lament prairie]

same..

[cunning gull]

ill send a ss next patch ill remember

[lament prairie]

I haven't done boxlysia event or tory

[half hatch]

i don't think i fully finished one event lmao

[cunning gull]

i just need to do the newest event

[half hatch]

i sorta played all a bit but dropped them

[cunning gull]

at least do the candy crush one first because of dailies

the rest u can do in one go

[lament prairie]

do the ely one first mango

the non box one

its fun but the longest

[half hatch]

i did do the dailies there just not those extra stages after story cuz

[lament prairie]

the others you can do in an hour or two each

[cunning gull]

ahh then honestly do the events in any order

[lament prairie]

candy crush I never did the dailies cuz I'm just ignoring the outfit box and prisms

[cunning gull]

i did for pardo outfit

https://tenor.com/view/pardofelis-pardo-felis-honkai-honkai-impact-gif-12020197014552553918

[pale musk]

Could anyone please find me a ref for this (RL but ig any)? This is the best I could find. https://youtu.be/62OUFOdsXQw?si=knv6yl0JIy_2WFAN

[open bone]

That ref doesn’t look wrong?

What issues are you running into imitating it

[cunning gull]

you don't have hle don't you?
because i don't think this video is bad at all

[pale musk]

Well using the same team with Kiana ELF I got 759. I just assume using FDD instead of Badum would get a better score but I got 668. It’s mostly at the end where Kevin gets the resistance at the end for whatever reason and idk what really what to do after.
Would using Trio work better actually? With SS HoTR, DK Kiana and SS HoO?

[open bone]

Trio also works here but it sounds like the problem is that you’re slightly damage gated and then not paying attention to the announcements so you miss it entering the lightning repel state

Also this is one of the times where Kiaelf is less worth it, Kevin is typeless so DS has an bonus at SSS

Trio does work tho

S rank hofi a bit painful tho

[pale musk]

Damage gated? Anyway I tried again and it’s more around 749 but I’ll try with DS

[open bone]

Sometimes falling short on damage by 10% means you just take 10% longer. Sometimes though a boss has a temporary weakened state, and failing to kill them in that state means going the rest of the way will take more than 10% longer

[pale musk]

so what exactly happens is that as soon as I finish Helia's finisher, it does enough damage to start the lightning repel state. Probably because they have Songque, they can finish the boss with that damage but for me I have to do a few final things even though I'm doing the exact same run. maybe I miss one wep skill on Ely but I don't really see differences in our runs so idk what to change even if I'm 'paying attention.'

[open bone]

Well once it enters lightning repel state you switch off paws and go to one of your other characters

Maybe HoHE, I think she is surprisingly non terrible as an off dps in GoI

[pale musk]

Kinda worked, I hope 762 is top 3 material.

[dusky mantle]

Ah

Its kebean symphony?

[fierce crypt]

S2 hfi got 753 at 526d

[spiral raven]

just record, also if u entering lightning repel then add something less dmg in between

[pale musk]

It's kinda hard to. What causes Lightning repel is Helia's final attack sequence in SO, I'm pretty sure that gets rid of the whole bar - instantly throwing you into lightning repel.

[open bone]

If that’s triggering it before the timer is up you can also delay her final action

Do more things in stellar outburst while prepping for it, like both SP actions on both supports So you can get another ult off or smth

[spiral raven]

well you should try a different rot/timing so that you finish everything before the he enters the state with the bar

from the sounds of it try enter SO earlier then

if u are on helia while the bar is up then idk why u doing that

bro i have no idea ur timings without a vid xd

[quick quest]

what the heck is that hitcount pillar at the start
hle ult evade > paws qte ult > fdd qte into a hitcount pillar out of nowhere

[quasi pier]

that's paws, she got frozen

[quick quest]

ah, yeah, I see her in the pillar now
wacky

[spiral raven]

u dont have to do pillar

maybe lets u speed up stuff but im poorge so i dont do it

[rough haven]

So the "Got DMG Boost" message is actually for your team? or the boss?

[quasi pier]

your team

one element gets dmg reduction but the others get a boost in damage

[rough haven]

Thanks, I was doing that diabolic kevin fight on agony 3 and from the description it mention about freeze paralyze.

[steady osprey]

statuses relate to kevin's buff he will gain dmg. we get nothing

[pallid flare]

ummmm... current RL kevin... how do people achieve 800? the videos show something weird, there's some ice crystal coming up for them, but not for me, what is this?

[cunning gull]

they make one of their characters freeze by the ice pillar if thats what you mean

[pallid flare]

and... does this help somehow or is this just to fight the gazing boredome in the time that kevin takes to finally get vulnerable?

[cunning gull]

no its definitely intentional, i haven't gotten around to check it properly but my observation is that they use their characters on it as they charge up

at leasts thats what the ingame says

[pallid flare]

hah... and how do you get yourself frozen

[cunning gull]

kevin is the one that freezes you

he just locks whoever you leave for him to freeze

[pallid flare]

but how, just taking hits doesn't work, he grabs my char, lifts her in the sky and smashs her down without a chance to QTE

[cunning gull]

can you record that part perchance?

you do wanna evade some of his annoying hits

[steady osprey]

the icy rain from sky at the openning can freeze/trap ur valk in a hitcount icetomb

if u manage to deal enough hitcount before kevin does that ur valk is free (and have more hp remain)

[pallid flare]

but how do you get out of this... you're locked, you can't QTE

[steady osprey]

only the rain at start

[cunning gull]

u use the other valks to free the frozen valk

make sure u dodge the other attacks

[steady osprey]

if u freezed by kevin while fighting him, omaewa shindeiru

[pallid flare]

okay so... ely is supposed to take a hit from the rain

[cunning gull]

no

pick one of her supports

unless this isnot ely leader

[steady osprey]

u're fine if u dont get ur valk freezed. we only do that so the 2nd support can farm/apply buff before kevin come down

[pallid flare]

... okay, they get hit, some ice gold gauge is like 50% up, and that's about it, you can't switch, you don't get frozen, are we even playing the same mode?

[cunning gull]

you do hle skill (if the ely you mean is hle)
have a support be frozen by the pillar
use the other support to free her while doing their combos
do ur rot

[steady osprey]

only the RAIN, not ice DROP

and the sword

[pallid flare]

okay now i'm confused, what do you mean by rain

[steady osprey]

multiple icy projectives coming down from the sky
in a vector with ~45 degree

[pallid flare]

ah those two things are different!

[cunning gull]

ngl when i did kevin last time (and at that time it was a thelema team) u would just stand in the corner of the arena and spam evade until that starting part was done
but it doesnt seem to be the current strategy from the recent vids i saw ig

[pallid flare]

then do you have a better one? because this is hilarous, my chars won't get frozen XD

[cunning gull]

i recommend recording what you do at the start of the fight

to see the issue

[pallid flare]

on it

[spiral raven]

is fairly consistent if ur timings r right, but also u dont have to do the frozen thing

[pallid flare]

maybe not, but i just can't get more than 700 points... i hoped if i charge my AR faster it can help, because they use it and then deal sufficient lightning damage so kevin doesn't go ice resist

[steady osprey]

what is ur team, and their atk stat

and abyss rank

[spiral raven]

it depends on the rot ur following, becuz r they SO ing the moment its up

[pallid flare]

but that doesn't work, and if that doesn't work, it just means i need to spam with my lightning/fire types until he finally decides to gain resistance, which jus tcosts so much time that i can basically already forfeit

i'm using HLE, evil dragon and... ähm... you know the third one... helia? the good one 🤣 aaaaaaah names...

[steady osprey]

and yes kevin fight is very dependent on ur burst when he enter resistant/vulnerable mode

btw dont dodge these thing and u will get frozen

[pallid flare]

i never dodge those things but they just don't hit me XD

and even if they do they fill the gauge only to like 30%

and then the gauge suddenly disappears...

[spiral raven]

ur timing just off thats it

try recording

got nothing to do with gauge

[steady osprey]

gauge is the sword and the ice block that drop straight

and kevin's atk but thats when he already come down

[spiral raven]

why u want to get frozen on fdd

it dont work

u do it on helia

[pallid flare]

helia should get frozen then? okay... why not ...

[steady osprey]

because fdd need something to hit multiple times to eventually get to her ult, which gives buffs

[spiral raven]

well u simply cant basically, fdd is weird with being frozen, but other than that you want fdd to not be frozen as she can apply breach for team, so in general u wanna start with her not frozen

[pallid flare]

okay but helia also doesn't get frozen...

[spiral raven]

if ur helia dont get frozen then timing is just off

u should be ulting at 973 on helia

[steady osprey]

btw u got hit by a block drop that knock u off, in the vid

[spiral raven]

can just hle weap at very start and not wait until 990

[steady osprey]

that explains the gauge

[pallid flare]

okay, but when helia ults at 973 she still doesn't get frozen

[spiral raven]

then record urself

because its just ur own timing issue

but i do feel like u got other areas to work on as well

what is the thing ur tryna follow

cuz if ur following ref then just go off that

[fierce crypt]

Mistranslation

[steady osprey]

we get buff instead of him?
that's a big fault mistranslation ngl

[fierce crypt]

Ye

[pallid flare]

i have no idea what i'm doing to be honest, my best result is 700, i'm just trying to build my AR while trying to not attack with HLE until he finally decides to go into resist mode and then i'm finally able to activate AR and go all out with ely but when that happens i'm already way under 800

[fierce crypt]

It's vulnerable icon

[spiral raven]

it says he takes extra dmg so vulnerability yeah

[fierce crypt]

Englul

[pallid flare]

i thought this weird and apparently impossible freezing trick could help, but if you say it's just an insignificant bonus then it's probably just... i don't know maybe it's all about the elf thingy this time and because i don't have her, i'll loose and sink down to whatever is below Red lotus...

[spiral raven]

well u can either record your full rotation or have a look at waht others are doing to see how they kill the time for the bar

[pallid flare]

okay i'll give it another try and record the whole thing

[steady osprey]

getting helia frozen will let fdd stack up buff faster, so helia can do full sequence to push the lightning resist phase, in the end its just some dmg from a support.

the important thing is u start SO as soon as he enter resist mode, so ur SO hit with bigger dmg while he's in that mode

[pallid flare]

not possible

who said i'm using chenxue?

i don't have her... is this the problem? are you programmed to loose without chenxue?

[steady osprey]

66 ari at start

[pallid flare]

i'm using teri

check my recording, there you see it.

[cunning gull]

no not at all

[steady osprey]

oh ok teri is the weakest aop

[pallid flare]

fr?

[cunning gull]

aops dont matter outside of nirv
and theres no boss specific on aops

[steady osprey]

only work for LoA bcs of x2 shift

u lose dmg

[cunning gull]

ds is more than enough for this boss but obv if you have better aops for ur dps u can use them but they wont do much for rl

[pallid flare]

okay... i thought teri is the only one with team buff 🤣

i have serapeum and of course protag

[steady osprey]

my listost fights with teri vs 4* kiaelf have pretty big dmg gap

[pallid flare]

but yeah you see my recording, other than changing to ... i have kia elf maxed btw, another astral op, any suggestions on how i could eventuelly stay in the +100 section?

or... at least not loose points and go down in whatever is below RL?

[steady osprey]

ds is better

[pallid flare]

what's DS?

[quasi pier]

dreamseeker

ds even has the no type dmg bonus here

[steady osprey]

bcs kevin is typeless,

the ENG sss ds skill is "non-element enemies" not "typeless" so idk

btw here even with ds he managed to get full ari as soon as kevin start resist/vulne phase

[cunning gull]

it is a mistranslation or wrong rewording (classic hoyo style)

[pallid flare]

okay that worked better

762 ... of course my AR is now delayed by various second, because it looses teris charge speed

[steady osprey]

ur dmg is problem too

u deal only 2m4 with SO HLE wa

ref deal 3m5

[pallid flare]

i mean... everything about her is maxed

[steady osprey]

another thing, u "forced" him to enter ice resist mode at the end of ur vid

[pallid flare]

yeah because at this point i'd just loose time if i try to avoid using ely

i felt like reduced ice damage is still better than what helia does to him.

[steady osprey]

well then ig u can squeeze some more with freeze trick and helia support dmg after the openning but 762 is reasonable with ur dmg

2m4 vs 3m5 is like 30% dmg gap

[pallid flare]

i hope it'll be enough for at least staying in RL... it's so frustrating when you actually even follow the meta and then you end up falling out of RL

[steady osprey]

when u said ur valk is max, does it also count the affixes

or just valk, skill, weapon and stig level

[pallid flare]

they are full ATK but not maxed, 17-20 ATK

[steady osprey]

i guess u can try hard for 770

[pallid flare]

769 i noticed i forgot to set emblen 🤣 i had ER emblem

[steady osprey]

by the getting frozen strategy

[pallid flare]

btw general question, what DKey are you using for modes like that? do you but everything damage for each support valk that you have or only for the main and the rest is option B?

[steady osprey]

are u trying to save some coin...
i give all 3 ele buffs if u wanna know

[cunning gull]

at least get the ice gene limit
ignore the phy one obv

i would go for sp on the rest but someling like lighting gene limit aint bad since youre staying on paws

fire i wont care too much about bc fdd doesnt stay for long enough

[pallid flare]

is the fire alternative even still relevant in part 2? 🤣

what does count as "Ausbruchmodus" i don't know the english term... breach mode... burst mode?...

[cunning gull]

just for hoh

[pallid flare]

lol thought so

[steady osprey]

not for p2 valk. their stigs are exclusive (and craftable, with less material)

[cunning gull]

bc her main source of dmg is burst more
other meta valks dont have burst mode

other burst mode valks like.. HoT, HoS... yeah

[steady osprey]

hoh? fire alternative?

[quasi pier]

gene limit

[cunning gull]

the gene limit that lets u either pick fire dmg or burst mode

[pallid flare]

sorry i'm german having problems with translations and naming in general >.<

[cunning gull]

its alr

[steady osprey]

ok i misunderstood to stig lmao

[cunning gull]

[steady osprey]

[pallid flare]

i feel like my damage depends solely on luck... because i've fine tuned a few percent but i even make less damage then before wtf 🤣

well either way i guess 770 is best i can do.

[steady osprey]

maybe a few more after u swap emblem

[cunning gull]

its probably you making small mistakes or reacting just a bit slowly to stuff or not reseting when you did one mistake
its just a matter of repeating and getting used to it until you feel done

obv your score wont match a specific ref based on how long you tested the ref and your current attack but if your score puts you in a comfy spot if ur bracket then thats what matters

[quaint saffron]

Helia was frozen as she was hit by the icicles- Though sometimes, she wasn't getting frozen though. Being frozen or not i think doesn't affect the run. As long as you have dmg the falling icicles (to have stellar drain and 3-pc of Helia's stig proccing) , you good to go. ~

[iron mesa]

Do I have any hope?

I don't even know how to play this team Jajaja

[open bone]

RL or A3?

[iron mesa]

A2

[open bone]

If you’re A2 yeah you’re fine

[iron mesa]

I don't feel fine

[open bone]

Nobody there knows how to play and this is a skill check boss

[iron mesa]

I feel like I don't do any damage, and I don't even have old trio

[open bone]

Do you have any other p2 Valkyries?

[iron mesa]

I don't have anything else useful

[open bone]

So only Boltstorm?

Or

[open bone]

Anyway if this is your team comp what you’re gonna want to do is go vbm, ult. Wait until the boss almost drops, wa and then jump attack wa like normal with VBM

[iron mesa]

I have HRB dkey and am missing HFi dkey

[open bone]

Then QTE HoHE, clicker her WA, and go vita

You’ll want to do Vita’s full combo and then stay on her until the countdown finishes or almost finishes, so the bar has the lightning symbol

And is yellow

Then when the bar disappears and Kevin enters Lightning rejection you go back to HoHE and dps

[iron mesa]

I tried doing something similar without polish but it just felt really bad

[open bone]

You might end up having to dps in just ult for a bit if stellar outburst isn’t ready yet. Anyway since A2 is paper good odds that kills in one rotation but if it doesn’t you can either repeat and do that thing again, or keep going on HoHE until you trigger freeze rejection and then finish it up with vita

[iron mesa]

why does HFi have to be like this man???

[scenic trellis]

where do i get the key for this chest

and for the weird doors?

this is elisia chapter of the story

the second open world

[urban panther]

how do you freeze helia on superstring

im watching a video but its not working

[steady osprey]

get hit by these

[urban panther]

been doing that and it works about 1/10th of the time

and even once i get that i can't get paws to get a qte off of coralie even when i made sure to hit kevin with her ult

i got a decent score so i think im done with this shit anyway

[steady osprey]

did u follow ref? hle > paws (get frozen) > fdd > hle > paws (dps to force lightning res) > hle (SO)

[stiff wigeon]

I need help , how do you do the opening in the abyss like hle eva then change to helia and the ice thingy pops up with a hit count

I cant get it right i tried a few times already any tips?

[spiral raven]

well are u ulting at 973, 972 works too

its purely timing

[stiff wigeon]

Whoever you are , wherever you are i hope you have a wonderful day cause this is so helpful

[native parrot]

hi, I have a question for current abyss. I used hle paws fws(don't have fdd) and managed to get 725pts, is it possible to get any higher with that team? my other option is trio but my hofi is only s1

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/cwrKH41R5CQ :pepega: R1 HLE*||

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/3mAhPuRnK1Q I tried copying a Helia run (here: #💁gameplay-help message ), but because of dmg differences (I think) I'm having problems. Any tips?

[winter shore]

did we have the artbook vol. 4 in NA?

[weak drum]

no

we havent had a global version of the artbook since vol3

[winter shore]

oh i see

suicide postponed

[dusky mantle]

Slacc time or nah

It is christmas after all

[obsidian granite]

is vbm and vbs the only p2 char we can buy in asterite shop?

[open bone]

yes

[dusky mantle]

Man i jwu

I somehow survived abyss lmao

[open bone]

gz

[dusky mantle]

All planned ggez

[onyx swallow]

I did smth similar to this
With 2 short rings since by the time I get my second rotation kevin already goes into his mode where starts counting dmg

I can maybe improve a little but I don't see myself getting enough to get trophies
All of em seem old possibly with ranked trio or better hle team

[weak oracle]

why the hell kebin has long-ass intro...

[eager dawn]

Do you guys salvage dupe stigmatas?

Is there a case where a different set is better than the signature?

[open bone]

For part 1 yeah fairly often. For part 2 almost never.

[weak oracle]

0-sec MA strats

[open bone]

Pretty much the only time someone ever used non sig sets in part 2 was bleed support stigs on vita

And then Mihoyo made sure it would never happen again by making sure it wouldn’t work for FDD

[eager dawn]

Aight thanks I guess I'll salvage those now

[crude cloak]

Also Zaychik on SImp when supporting Thele

That was BiS in 7.7

[open bone]

Fair

[vernal bronze]

does anyone have a non PAWS reference for kevin

[elfin parrot]

I haven't analyzed every detail of the fight but the main points i can offer are

• The boss isn't immediately vulnerable after the opener. Your PAWS ult at that point completely whiffed. Look at the reference video. They waited (did a jump to help with the timing maybe?) so the last part of the ult actually hits as the boss became vulnerable. I assume this mainly helps with building status stacks on the boss sooner.
• You ended outburst early when the boss still has plenty of hp left. Consider staying in it longer with extra WAs/QTEs for more damage.

The other suggestions I have are more uncertain

• The majority of damage is with PAWS outburst. Maybe consider kiana elf. However you seem to have evaded pretty well off the opener and barely got to SO in time that DS' initial ARI is possibly hard to negotiate. The non outburst damage from DS and typeless damage boost at SSS might be helping setting up the repel state too. idk
• Iirc you have teri op so you may opt to consider LoA with FWS HoHE PAWS on this fight. However my personal experience with this team highly struggles building up status stacks and there prob isn't any reference to go off of. I don't expect this team to be better over your current PAWS dps despite the better op for the team.

[elfin parrot]

trio is the other main consideration which is paws-less

otherwise put together any astral ring team that can use all three elements. What is your valk roster?

beware paws is significant for building up status stacks with her paralysis

but freeze (so mainly hle and to a lesser extent thele. stun too but dudu shouldn't be used here) are other means

[pale musk]

I assumed the ult was only to trigger qte, good to know. If I stay in any longer the lightning resist starts up and he resists more of the finisher. I heard to go for ds for the typeless dmg boost. I do actually have teri but like you said idk if there's a great ref. I tried to check bili when looking for a paws ref and it's almost all hle. Ty

[elfin parrot]

what i'm about to say are very niche and rare cases. If they confuse you feel free to disregard but adding on to what other people have already said...

you may value using a (edit: non maxed) dupe on the same valk too. In some cases you may want to lower your own damage (damage control). One application of this is to access effects from your valks that only works from hitting a target, and a boss may not become a target anymore if you finish their hp for the phase too early.

Another case is also when you have excess damage for a particular fight but need different affixes on a stigmata for a non damage utility such as restoring sp, or inflicting different elemental damage for boss gimmicks.

---

Overall it's fine to salvage dupe stigs if you need prisms. If you don't need them right now then you may opt to hold on to them for now for such rare cases.

[vernal bronze]

I'm using ss chenxue, with s hle, s FDD, and s2 vita

i think this is good for now?

idk if ill lose trophies/ went from 616 to 698

[elfin parrot]

hard for me to comment further without seeing the fight since this one is so mechanics driven. As long as you're abiding by the repel stuff and the status stuff the best you can I won't have much more to say though

how many outburst did you do for this fight?

[elfin parrot]

the second point was regarding the end of the fight. The boss never got the chance to reenter repel state. nvm i see repel state started

Outburst is generally where more of your support effects are available including outburst exclusive effects. PAWS isn't getting anything special from leaving outburst either.

Ok hang on i got confused back and forth by the got dmg boost text but that pops up from dealing enough damage. Not necessarily because of the repel state starting?

prob because you filled the bar completely hm no that's not right either

hm i guess filling the bar completely triggers repel state early?

hm yeah i guess you're right. Forget what i said about outburst then

[eager dawn]

It's fine thanks, I have salvaged some in the past, but the thought just occurred to me just now
What boss is this in particular?

[elfin parrot]

the obsoleted example i had was sss huodou with thelema dps, where you're rushing for her ult at the start of the fight

but nowadays we have hohe lead

other examples are more account by account, depending on proportions of your account to the abyss fight since both sides can scale

but the main one i had in mind was Sa with FDD support

where you want to make FDD's QTE actually hit to gain enhanced WA to prep ult for later at the end of transition

alternatively JDS QTE hitting can be considered too for the same fight

for a more arbitrary and also obsolete example, CE also wants to hit targets to fill up her meter. So damage controlling so that she can fill it up before a phase change can be rarely considered too

changing stigs isn't the only way to damage control either. it's just one way

[pale musk]

I'm pretty sure yeah.

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/0nqNI2B.png

i didn't read this part in time lol

but yeah

maybe revisit the fight for the landing the first status with PAWS and maybe it can cut out that last bit

you went through your entire HoHE sequence with only 2 stacks

i have no idea how much each stack is worth tbh

the game text makes it sound like the boss does more damage to you https://i.imgur.com/6FxDb0r.png but we deliberately go for this in this and many past runs that i feel it must be mistranslated

[eager dawn]

That's a lot for me to actually put in practice, but thanks anyway

[elfin parrot]

again this is very very niche. In 99% of cases i don't think you'll actually put it into practice so feel free to largely forget about it if it's too much

but the tldr is keep stig dupes on hand if you don't need the prisms right now. Otherwise if you need them, it's fine to trash for prisms. Don't hesitate

at worst you can pay a slightly inefficient cost to regain them from foundry

[vernal bronze]

two

[elfin parrot]

sounds similar to a nirv fight at that point. Maybe check kyoshiro's ref and base it off of that esp when you have ss chenxue

personally i had to cut the first outburst short for the greater refund to compensate for lack of chenxue

otherwise check out hieu le's fight and compensate for less damage due to lack of statuses.

again only so much i can say when i can't see the fight.

i'm also not sure how you'll deal non leader damage to set up repel phase but i assume you figured that out already

one wacky idea is that normally we have the leader dps mileage off of repel phase since that's where the damage boost is

but if your set up portion is too lacking to reach the damage boost, then you may consider having the lead deal damage before repel state to get the damage boost, and then have the sub dps deal with the repel state

very not ideal, so avoid this if you can

[pale musk]

I'm not sure how I got worse but the damage is better.

I did random basic attacks so I'd be able to tell when Kevin would be vulnerable

yk actually fws qte + ult might have been faster, lemme try that.

[elfin parrot]

i don't really have the time to deeply review this right now sorry. Maybe try again blindly, compare to your previous recording while paying attention to support effect durations, status stacks, timings of your attacks to repel states and such

[pale musk]

kk

[rare iris]

You should use FWS Ult on the first rot to clear that sliver at the end

Oh wait

[pale musk]

should I feel safe at least? rest of t3 are hle with ss teri and Chenxue; the rest are hle users and then 1 trio. 3 haven't gone yet

[open bone]

with 2.5 hours left? mostly

you'd be 7th in my bracket tho

[quasi pier]

pretty chill bracket, you'd be 5th in mine

[pale musk]

dang, so ye doesn't look good for me if I wanna make t3
This or FWS with S Teri should be significantly higher than 763, right?

[wooden patrol]

pls help i have liek a few hours left and i need a few questions answered

ive seen a vid on kevin boss but I still dont understand the consensus of what ur supposed to do during transition

so what exactly is it?? anddd aside from that,i currently dont have paws can i cope with hle fdd ps?

oh uhm merry christmas to those who are already in the 25th

GUYS I NEED HALP

[elfin parrot]

In the future, try to see what abyss is like early to determine if you need to ask about it sooner than later. (i understand it's xmas time so you may have been busy but this goes both ways unfortunately)

You can also click on the boss icon before starting the fight to view their skills.

Transition? You mean the opener? Transition more means between p1 and p2 but this fight only has one hp bar after the opener.

PS is not a valid cope for this fight. The weather effect is symphony that wants all three elements on the team. For replacements for PAWS, look for a lightning valk (some people resort to vita since she's at least RoO for HLE's leader max sp effect).

the main things about the opener are:

• it provides you with many opportunities to evade enemy attacks. Edit: keep in mind as a basic mechanic (not specific to the fight), each ult evade restores 1 ARI
• the diagonal icicle shower is hittable
• the said shower can also freeze your current valk in place. Swapping control won't make them leave the field but provide you with a hitable target
• after the boss swoops on to the field, they are not immediately hitable. Do account for this delay before dealing your attacks

alternatively, maybe for transition you're talking about repel state?

the boss goes between two states. Initially...

• the damage you deal with each elements are being tracked. Whatever you deal the most of will become resisted (repelled) in the next state.
• Doing 50% damage of the bar during this state will grant you a damage bonus. So you don't want to just sit this out.
• you overall want to use a secondary element to handle this phase to gain the damage boost without making your main element resisted
• filling the bar completely will end repel state early
• once started you can visualize how long repel state last at the bottom right of the boss hp bar at the top

the other major gimmick going on in the fight is the boss dispels any control statuses you applied on them, but in the process grants you a damage boost (?). This stacks up to 3 times (visible under boss hp). PAWS is very notable for applying paralysis to build up these stacks. HLE can apply freeze in a practical manner at least.

@wooden patrol if i missed anything, do clarify further and maybe someone else can help you further

with the common strat, people make PAWS attack the icicle shower to trigger her own 3pc stig buff but also get her frozen so that FDD can have a hitable target to prepare her own effects before the boss actually spawns in

[elfin parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027167024469770300/1453540034480312422/RPReplay_Final1766621332.mov If you have to resort to vita, then maybe you can reference the actions here to have vita hit the opening shower

[wooden patrol]

uh oh, this is a beginner acc so i dont have vita if it happens then vbs would be my last resort for lightning

[elfin parrot]

maybe consider a different leader entirely then

[wooden patrol]

I really dont have anything...

a bit outdated ss but not like HoHe gonna change anything

[elfin parrot]

hm yeah idk then

[wooden patrol]

it's ok i can just try and make up a team and dont expect anything , ty for helping tho

[elfin parrot]

you're only gaining 20% more of the separate weather debuff from having the third member. Try out both PS or VBs in separate attempts

[wooden patrol]

alr alr, ty

one more thing

before repel state i should let hle still do damage but make sure to calculate it correctly so that fdd we'll be the one who's repelled

is that correct

[elfin parrot]

ideally yes, while still achieveing enough damage for the damage buff at 50% of the bar

[wooden patrol]

oh right i have to deal atleast 50

oki oki i think thats all, ty!!

[elfin parrot]

alternative approach

[wooden patrol]

Ig ill also try that out lolz

Ty again! and im sorry if I've only asked up until now I wasnt aware that this boss was that of a skill check

[dusky mantle]

More of a dps check between your two dps

[pliant tundra]

is Mendeleev a good set for Delta?

[rugged wedge]

anyone know the returnee rewards if one starts playing again today

[regal plume]

how do i unlock the middle tower i dont get it

[craggy plume]

Go to inscription smelting under inscribed Whisper and combine a light and dark attribute whisper with each other.

[regal plume]

idk how it works

[elfin parrot]

Delta at her highest potential pales greatly in comparison to modern teams today. She is not recommended to build for meta content (mainly notable for higher crystal income from abyss).

If you still insist on building her anyway then maybe consider Elysia TB and Dante M. Some examples:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kaX4YnEyR/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1btP5eRECs/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ChAsezEar/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FKkYYTE7x/
Note these are all from one person who's just been very dedicated.

For shorter term uses such as SS graded fights in Memorial Arena, and depending on how she is used, other stigmata such as Newton T, Shennong T, and/or Shuijing can be considered. (Check the old reference document in the pins for more)

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/UaMnkrB.png this is all i can find for you for now. Maybe someone else can give you a better answer.

Meta wise the returnee banner is heavily not advised especially for this current iteration. Lantern is a terribly valued valk even back when she was first released. Only spend the free returnee only rolls on her unless you really like her with no regards to the meta.

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

can check the second link here for a rough idea of how many crystals there are to actually gain from returnee, although i do not know if there's been any recent changes.

[pliant tundra]

nice!
ehehe i just enjoy building characters really~ thanks!

[dusky mantle]

Oh wow

People still active during xmas

[digital sky]

Boo

[lethal idol]

Should I get lunar vow's weapon from the battle pass? I have 24 of the crystallium currently, idk what's leaks and what's officially known info from the cn server but spoiler text ||considering free luna next patch is why i'm asking, though people also have said she probably will get a new weapon like the HoH HoF HoRb ones, is it officially known if thats the case or not?||

[crude cloak]

||The free LV part is official, the dkey part is not, but it's highly likely because of RoO valks suddenly getting Bleed buffs that require RoO to be active||
||Even if she doesn't get a dkey she's extremely niche currently (like 1-2 bosses), I wouldn't recommend it||

[lethal idol]

ty and the next thing i'd ask is I was able to spend enough on banners during the period to get shadowbringer thelema during that period that just recently ended from the wishing material exchange, should I get her weapon from the bp? i'm hesitant since it costs 20 which is almost a whole character from reserve

[crude cloak]

Depends on what geared valks you have currently

P2 valks

And whether you're planning to pull Rita

[lethal idol]

I have HLE and her weapon, I have Flawless benediction HoH, and I am attempting to get waxing moon and have the 24 in the first place because i planned to get HoF in reserve

[crude cloak]

I assume you're getting HoFi + her dkey for personal reasons?

Cuz it's not recommended at all

[lethal idol]

personal reasons though it can be delayed

[crude cloak]

Fair enough

[lethal idol]

would the cost of shadowbringers weapon go down? it's the only weapon i see that costs 20 for seemingly no reason

[crude cloak]

Anyway, properly built Thele will be nice for HoHE DPS and Rita DPS in your case, I'd go for it

[crude cloak]

No
Part 2 weapons are more expensive cuz stigs are farmable

[crude cloak]

Well, it will when she gets added to Reserve, but that'll take a very long while

[lethal idol]

alrighty ty for the advice also i should add my dorm supply trolled me and gave me HoH even though i already got her via buying the "level rush" beginners thing so I have her at s2

so if that adds to why i should make thelema better

[crude cloak]

You should have her at S2 in that case though

[lethal idol]

s2 then sorry

[crude cloak]

And yes, it does, her S2 is big

But you still are lagging behind rank-wise, her F2P rank is SS1-SS2 currently

That matters only in Nirv though, and your valk roster is not enough for it anyway

[lethal idol]

ty for the help, i'm just not entirely sure what I care about yet, i'm a collector who likes to just play the game more than to do anything competitively, for example from playing main story I absolutely want Herscherr of sentience just for fun and I adore her outdated or not

idk how i'll use my battle pass materials yet since I could get stuff from reserve but war treasury exists and I could just let that passively get me everyone i've missed getting into the game so late

[crude cloak]

@lethal idol keep in mind that we could be wrong and it just means that we'll get a regular RoO Bleed valk in the future, for example

My advice doesn't change

[lethal idol]

oki ❤️ ty still also as a random side question I kinda love fu hua in general, i notice visscitude is in the battle pass shop temporarily but super expensive, is she completely irrelevant? I was gonna wait just because how inflated the cost is for her

[crude cloak]

Same as LV, 1-2 bosses left

Less likely to get a dkey imo

[crude cloak]

Both rn and in the future

[lethal idol]

alrighty, darn, i'll just wait then, doesnt seem like reserve is that far behind where she is

[crude cloak]

Reserve is at 6.4 rn, and FoV came out in 7.2

It'll take a long time until she gets added there

You kinda wanna wait until HoTr's gear is farmable anyway

[lethal idol]

well that's fine idk how i feel yet anyways, have to admit the p2 valkyries gameplay is just straight up better and more fun than everything else (mostly, kinda situational) so I could just wait for a brand new hua to be a thing

[crude cloak]

That could happen too

[lethal idol]

i got HoTr from the login choice event, my plan was that I was pulling waxing moon rn to get HoFi with the bp materials, then I was going to get HoO with the next bp materials, and then get HoO and HoTr's weapons with the next next bp materials

though this wasnt concrete i'm not sure how stigma factor into characters i could get from reserve since i dont see them in foundry

[crude cloak]

Stigs need more time to become craftable

Lemme check what's the last thing there rn

Ah, it'll be CN's stigs next patch

And she came out in 6.2

[lethal idol]

theres no rush for me to make any decisions anyways I can stockpile crystallium as much as I want it seems and the only thing with a time limit i'm considering is thelema's weapon but thats over 120 days from now iirc

[obtuse lintel]

Hi

The game doesnt support controller on phone yet?

I dont wanna use an app to map the controller over the screen, i dont wanna get banned

[elfin parrot]

maybe a question for #🔌technical-help . Specify what phone os you're on too

i don't recall any changes to how the app handles controllers so i'm inclined to think nothing has changed

but i do recall a discussion where on one OS it was allowed and on another it was not so be sure to double check

from searching past message history here, it seems it's only iOS where mobile controllers are allowed

[dreamy vapor]

mhmm iOS has official controller support, android doesnt. Theres like a couple of collab controllers that work for android but in general the game doesnt officially support controllers for android

[open bone]

How does one stop the HoD minion from wasting a bunch of on dropping down at the start

[elfin parrot]

i'm not really sure if i understand what you're asking for but we do have a bunch of older HoD strats in the old pinned spreadsheet so maybe check those out

the start of HoD minion is with a bunch of mobs you need to kill. After killing them then the boss drops down. Perhaps those videos can cover ways to mitigate the time loss waiting for that.

The current strat kinda just has hofs ult through the mobs then have HoO ult to hit the boss while it's still high up it seems?

in some cases it's not really reasonable to mitigate the time loss while waiting on a boss' downtime. Kasumi is a pretty big example of that

at any rate i don't really follow high MA strats closely anymore so maybe someone can answer better than i can

[open bone]

In all the MA fast HOD minion I watch they somehow manage to tag the Minion while it's still in the air and kill it before it hits the ground, but whenever I try it ends up being invincible and I have to lose several decents waiting for it to drop, so I get like 39800 only

maybe it's just that none of my battlesuits can do it

[mortal jetty]

U have a record?

What is your team rank?

[open bone]

My current best score is equivalent to the person at rank 100 rn but I haven't locked it in yet

just thats what I can do in training mode

[mortal jetty]

What is ur team + stig?

U have a record?

[open bone]

uh I'm currently using HLE FDD VBM but I could move some of paws ps badum over if it would significantly improve score, I have those 6 for both bosses

and sure I can record a run

[mortal jetty]

Yeah but what run were u watching?

[open bone]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18wWZecEYb/?t=186 or https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19NXsYcEek/, say

[mortal jetty]

But u are not using the same team

Idt u can get almost same result with different team

[open bone]

right, I just want to figure out why their ults can hit at 0 sec and none of my valkyries can

at first I thought it was an img tech but thelema lantern sena can do it too

[elfin parrot]

both of the videos aren't hitting at 0s though. I guess you more mean hitting immediately?

[open bone]

yeah, as opposed to it going invincible and then needing to wait multiple seconds to drop down

[elfin parrot]

hm can you observe closely the behavior of the mobs as you finish them off?

the boss might be waiting for them to despawn completely

and particular attacks can attack them further to force them to despawn sooner. Otherwise the state they were initially in can affect how fast they despawn too (e.g. midair vs grounded)

time slow effects may hinder this process too but the videos are clearly going for time fracture effects

[open bone]

hmm

[elfin parrot]

not trying to copy the video

but instead demonstrate killing the mobs and needing the big ones to despawn before lantern's smg can target the boss

[open bone]

I think it might be the despawn animations

yeah

maybe I can finesse something with hle then

ty

[elfin parrot]

i know in sim battle there are specific attacks to used to despawn bosses sooner because the timer only ends when the boss entity is cleared there

i don't have any knowledge of what's going on in any of these teams in regards to despawning enemy models so that's where you'll have to investigate

but yeah best of luck

hfs ult may be clearing enemies early enough before they can properly take animations on the field or maybe hoo's qte is doing something too. idk

i gotta go for now but feel free to leave messages for me to get back to later if you still need more brainstorming

MA can be very particular in its mechanics so as asaphie said, don't expect much if you can't match the fight completely. Alot of times I don't observe things matching 1 for 1 across different setup substitutions even if they sound the same on paper

[open bone]

Yeah I’ll see if I can do it with precise WA ult timing and if I can’t I’ll just eat the L

Losing 60 pts on 1 boss isn’t the end of the world or anything

[sullen shadow]

I'm 31 pulls away from getting Lantern in the returnee banner (got free pulls from spending crystals elsewhere). Would it be worth to unlock her? Or should I save for spending event?

[open bone]

Save. Lantern was mid on release and is old (and thus worse) now

plus you unless your account has heavily ranked old trio there's nothing worth you spending your crystals on rn

if you do have ranked trio and no waxing you could consider pulling on hofi dkey banner I guess

[rare iris]

Lantern was actually extremely hard to use on release instead of being mid kekw

A bunch of her techs just get figured out late

But ye, never invest on old units

[dusky mantle]

Omg

Its flying fish

Paws fdd rs?

[open bone]

ye

[daring scaffold]

Can anyone tell me what the H is the symbiosis trait?
And who has it?

[open bone]

Symbiosis trait is the trait for supporting grail

So both grail DPS have it (PAWS, HLE) and then PS Badum Dudu HoHE FDD Horb

If you’re talking current weather in abyss then boss is shilling
Paws DPS with Dudu support > HLE dps with Dudu support > paws dps > HLE dps

Because paws has type advantage and Dudu has stun

[craggy plume]

You can also filter by astral ring tag in the valkyrie menu

[quaint saffron]

Chat, may i ask, is this extreme weather flying fish a new weather boss? I can't seem to find any extreme flying fish ref on youtube- 😆

[boreal eagle]

is a new weather for the fish yes

[spiral raven]

is a new weather that existed ages ago in beta , they just ran it the first time but ig u call it new yeah

[dusky mantle]

Same boss diff weathee

[quaint saffron]

I see. I am on Nirvana right now- and my score is 677- 😆 I would try to show my run, hopefully, i can get some insights on where to improve- lemme just upload it a sec-

[boreal eagle]

should be helia dps

i still can't try it in eu because abyss is closed

[spiral raven]

is helia dps yeah

[open bone]

Helia FDD RS

FDD is most replacable

[spiral raven]

that was a confirmation but yeah

altho not reallly replaceable at nirv

[plucky gust]

is there an 888 ref vs vita that only uses S+1, S AO?

[quaint saffron]

Finally uploaded the video of my run- I run PAWS-Dragon Coralie-Small Dudu also- welp-

https://youtu.be/SskYvZITexE?si=XQW7ylC_UfK2CILv

My nirvana experience is always this bad whenever i step in this territory- I can't even get a 700-

[dusky mantle]

Understandable.

[quaint saffron]

I have the proper units, oh, but not the astral op- 😆 seems songque cope is not good in this territory man-

[quaint saffron]

update to this, i got 684. So on the transition phase, instead of from helia switching to coralie then to small dudu, i just swap to dudu immediately then to Helia again, then do some attacks to destroy the shield, and click astral ring then afterward. seems faster. but still not 700- sadge- ~

[plucky gust]

yea. part 2 strat is basically: S+1 and SS AO minimum. . .

[pale palm]

Can I use Teri astra op on anyone other than dudu
If I am going to use a lightning dps what would be the best choise
SS Entropy
S0 Teri
4* Kiana

[silk bison]

i dont have badum, does anyone know who the second best character for paws would be for this abyss

[craggy plume]

FDD should work fine

[cunning gull]

probably kia by a bit followed by DS
DS would be more convenient if you wanna SO early or wanna do 2 SOs (u don't need for this boss)
teri can let you SO faster but u don't need that quality for that boss either

[weak drum]

you dont use badum in paws's team this abyss

paws fdd mini dudu

[silk bison]

i don’t have fdd either

[weak drum]

anyone who's goi

ps is pretty good too

ps dudu

[silk bison]

and mb i thought u use badum since hieu le used her

[weak drum]

oh thats bc its rl

boss's hp is paper so badum is prefered bc she's fast

you can try using ps too

[silk bison]

i see, but yea thanks

[strong kestrel]

is baby bianka battle suit still good

[quasi pier]

if you already have her, she's fine. if not then don't pull, especially not at the end of the patch

[strong kestrel]

i accidentally got her and i just wanted to know

[quasi pier]

she's very niche as a dps and is just ok as a support

[strong kestrel]

so did i flop by doing this

☠️

[quasi pier]

how many pulls did you do

[strong kestrel]

one it was early

[quasi pier]

oh then you're fine

how many crystals do you have

[strong kestrel]

um

its a secret

[quasi pier]

it's not recommended that you pull for her weapon since you always want to pull for brand new characters here

[strong kestrel]

yes ik

[quasi pier]

i wanted to ask how many crystals you had in case you wanted to pull for rita. if you don't have enough, then skip

[strong kestrel]

i guess its not that bad because my best physical dps was susannah

[strong kestrel]

even if i dont have enough ill get her trust me

[quasi pier]

first 10 pull trust

[strong kestrel]

nah bro first single

[warped sequoia]

why do some of these cutscene buttons not work

ive searched through audio resources and i cant find anything regarding stuff before chapter 18

[vernal bronze]

#🔌technical-help
I think you may have the resources deleted, go to resource management under Ai-Phone

[misty hazel]

How does this team work? I thought horb only buffed physical damage? (I don’t have coralie)

[hearty yacht]

if horb has her dkey she can provide supportive utility to world star and grail of infinitude

in goi her support rot is the same as p1 physical, ulting at the start and extending its duration via your enhanced attack

she also contributes a decent amount of damage during stellar outburst

[elfin parrot]

Astral ring valks in support roles generally buff any kind of damage type. Team building now revolves around matching ring types and tags instead of matching elements

Review the 3pc effect of her new stig set especially

[misty hazel]

Ohh ok I see, thank you!

[daring mortar]

Is there any advice for someone trying to get their account back after years of not playing, but also seemingly didn’t link their account to anything?

(Is this the right place for a question like this?)

[hearty yacht]

the advice you want depends on your goals, if you are competitive or casual can be a huge factor in deciding what to do moving forward

[daring mortar]

Honestly, just casual. I don’t whale enough to be competitive. I just don’t want to have to start over from scratch.

[hearty yacht]

you dont need to whale to be competitive

whaling is only needed if you aim on being top of your server

[daring mortar]

Ok, but we’re getting off topic. 😂

[hearty yacht]

not really, this is still on topic

point being if you want to maximise your crystal income, then your goal would be redlotus (aka being competitive)

if you are aiming for redlotus and you dont want to restart, you need to focus on developing your account through dkeys, dorm levels and the proper units

how many crystals do you have at the moment

[daring mortar]

Nothing! I just downloaded the game again last night.

[hearty yacht]

then for now skip the unit on banner next patch (dropping next week) and save your crystals for cny in 8.7

[daring mortar]

I went back to see if there were any screenshots that I saved, thinking my account number might have been saved in them, but then I realized that this was before Genshin came out and maybe they didn’t do that sort of thing back then.

[hearty yacht]

you mean the UID? its on your profile

[daring mortar]

Yeah, but I guess I didn’t save any pics of that.

[hearty yacht]

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[daring mortar]

I guess what you’re telling me is that my old account is gone forever. 😂

Rip all my cuties.

[hearty yacht]

well you dont really need it to log in, just need your email/username that you signed up with and the password
if you are trying to contact CS to retrieve the account, you could try contacting CS of the other hoyogames where you have this information saved

[daring mortar]

I didn’t see an option for email / password, when I tried to log in, though. 🤔

[hearty yacht]

AhriConfused

[elfin parrot]

https://honkaiimpact3.hoyoverse.com/global/en-us/news/106519 Maybe you can try following some instructions here?

At some point hoyoverse was required by law to age verify their accounts and people were given a period to do that. I do not know what happened to accounts that missed this period at this point.

Maybe search your own name in this server too and see if you can dig up any old messages or screenshots to figure out your account from.

If you did link your hi3 account to hoyoverse (sounds like you didn't but just in case), try logging into hoyolabs with it and seeing if you can dig up info on your hi3 account there.

If all else fails try contacting CS as stated earlier if you remember anything about the account.

Otherwise at worst, consider starting a new account. If your account is very old, most things you used to have are prob farmable and regain-able now (unless you care about account creation date, event only frame/emblems, collab stuff like asuka valk)

[elfin parrot]

It's on the elevator screen when you start up the game. The link i posted will point out some things.

it may get skipped if you login'd recently though and you'll have to click something else to log out or something? idr atm.

[strong kestrel]

physical characters need crit as affixes right ?