💁gameplay-help

[weak drum]

hofi vbm is vita’s old team

[edgy hamlet]

I meant to say I see people using either Hofi or Vbm. FDD is in both teams

[full trench]

hofi imo, even for gigawhales like darius hofi is only -3

[edgy hamlet]

So Vbm better but I assume more annoying to play?

[full trench]

shes better if the vast majority of your run is in ring which isnt a thing for s0

[edgy hamlet]

Ah I see

yea this boss is really tanky

[naive shoal]

whats the best team comp for abyss boss with my team

[crude cloak]

PAWS FDD HLE

It's not like you have options xdd

Well, ig you do technically have FDD DPS, but she won't get the weather benefit + the team comp will be copium

[half hatch]

Fdd/paws/vbm ain't that compium ,though I agree paws should outperform here

[crude cloak]

Compared to Vita instead of VBm it should be

[half hatch]

Depending on the rot it's like a 7%-12% DPS loss iirc and she's rather close to paws HoFi from what I remember, should be fine for Rl and below

[sacred cape]

Can’t be arsed looking pishacha is still 1sec right?

[arctic remnant]

Sadly agony 3

[naive shoal]

im seeing like top 3 rank using vita fdd vbm so i thought maybe paws fdd vbm was an option

[crude cloak]

Well, VBm is used with Vita because Vita specifically requires RoO supports

In non-RoO teams VBm is copium

[spiral raven]

unless u got ss2 ps?

you can still try if u want
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mf4Bz6EKH/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

otherwise 1s yea

[glass wadi]

how do you bouild a team arouund new elysia

just slap 3 elysias?

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-evernight-march-7th-ever-night-star-rail-gif-11879160071484816003

[steady osprey]

in ur valk roster, use the filter to check "symbiosis" tag

[glass wadi]

gotta be honest idk shit about what a symbiosis is

like this?

[steady osprey]

hle ring is Grail of Infinitude and all the valks in there are symbiosis. aka symbiosis valks go together

[glass wadi]

these are the only astral ring chars i own

[steady osprey]

i see. dont u have hle

[glass wadi]

HLE?

[steady osprey]

hle is new elysia

[glass wadi]

oh

[steady osprey]

hi love elf

[glass wadi]

no but i can guarantee her

[steady osprey]

2 ely go together finely

u need 1 more copium slot filler

[glass wadi]

good, i like that

[glass wadi]

the first one on the photo?

she cute

got her s1 4/4

[steady osprey]

MPS aka Thelema can supp HoHE but cant supp HLE.
u can still use her if u like.
idk but shouldn't be too far from VBm supp in HLE team

HLE HOHE MPS/VBm
HOHE HLE MPS

there's ur team lol. obviously ely simp

[glass wadi]

no, that's impossible, no way, i do not pull every elysia ever and got back to the game only for a new ping thing

[steady osprey]

aight watever u say

[glass wadi]

ely cube is cursed

i'm just a new player searching for advice nothing to see here

[steady osprey]

sure

[glass wadi]

whats' worth it from here?

[glacial rune]

Worth from what standpoint

Cubes help you upgrade but you should prob have some alr, thelema stamps are good if you have thelema, sena stamps are mid, everything else is kind of meh if you have elfs alr

[glass wadi]

i have s1 thelema

[steady osprey]

s2 is even better
elf box can help u get an elf. from wat i heard ely elf is a tiny bit better than SSS DS for hle

150 frags for an elf though (1 box = 2 frags). if u dont already have any elf box/frag

[barren ibex]

Hallo ich brauche hilfe bei bund der endgültigkeit teil 2 wo kann ich das finden ?

[weak drum]

hello, can you use english? i don’t know any german helpers right now

[barren ibex]

@weak drum Oh okay and where can I find help in German

[weak drum]

well there should be a dutch channel if you scroll down far enough in the channels list (for your information, it may be not active at all), it’d be preferred if you ask here in english if possible

[steady osprey]

ram is a german i guess

[barren ibex]

I found German-speaking Chanel below and thank you again:)

[faint maple]

are any of these good or should i get something else from starry wishes? i dont have any S ranks yet apart from the free ones (just void & hoh), im pulling for elysia and her sig

this is what else is in the shop

[steady osprey]

Star of Eden: Anti -Entropy is a Divine Key that u cant get it elsewhere, if u dont already have it

[faint maple]

sweet, thank you

[steady osprey]

tune and sync it in Dorm Divine Keys for a sweet +10ATK for all ur valks

and dw u will be able to get most of the rewards in event shop if u play actively

[faint maple]

ok yay

[obtuse lintel]

Hi, in what teams is 4s* kia elf better than DS?

[steady osprey]

lightning/fire team i guess
vita dps and hofi dps for example

[elfin parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc72M0E5RMg idr if you brought up what tier you're in. This is obviously whale but if it's for lesser tiers maybe it pans out. Ultimately I don't expect a 1:1 copy of any reference so be ready to make adjustments.

[steady osprey]

idk if this is still right

well, if this' true then sr thelema my token are for 4* kiaelf

[elfin parrot]

it's not really a team by team basis. It's a case by case specific as well

[obtuse lintel]

[elfin parrot]

wyverein has made plenty of other videos for elfs and ops for other teams if you want more data

and keep in mind the older ones don't account for songque's buff

[eager smelt]

they buffed songque post 7.3 because she was really bad
kiana is still situationally better tho

[obtuse lintel]

[elfin parrot]

anyway tldr consider 3*+ kia elf for fire/lightning teams if you need more outburst damage but don't need to rush to outburst asap (lower initial ARI)

keep in mind dreamseeker still has higher non outburst damage

[obtuse lintel]

[steady osprey]

as in vita aop comparison vids

[obtuse lintel]

So I just have to ask everytime what to use

[idle abyss]

ty my goat

[eager smelt]

just learn to test it

if u can test everything u do u can beat everything

[obtuse lintel]

thats too much for this brain

[elfin parrot]

it's not a flat team + cycle scenario. It can depend on how your account proportions to the context/scaling. You'll just have to try it if you feel there's room to use kia elf

if you don't want to test then just stick with DS. The difference isn't too large and it's better to have more ARI than not

[lament prairie]

wat whos birthday is it

[elfin parrot]

is hov supposed to react to anyone's b-day? It's ely's today (we got a mail for it)

[lament prairie]

I thought that was yesterday

I deleted the mail yesterday

[elfin parrot]

11/11 is all i can say. Idk if there's some weird time zone thing going on

[lament prairie]

bug or actual birthday she's been saying this shit since 2019 apparently xD

anyway SS Chen or SS Teri for abis idk what to use

I see everyone using chen

[vernal terrace]

Chen

[half hatch]

For roo SS Chen is just better than SS Teri or equal in basically everything they provide

[eager smelt]

shes better than sss teri too

[steady osprey]

wat? is teri that terrible? i thought she has some support for Roo?

[vernal terrace]

Lightning RoO mostly

[narrow cedar]

teri roo powercreep was unwarranted 🙁

i miss my Vita X Teri team that is my favourite ship atm

[half hatch]

She has but Chenxue RoO buffs are just better

If you don't need Ari S CX > SSS Teri

[eager salmon]

Hi i want to enjoy storyline but i cant read fast and theres autoplay in characters chat scripts, how to turn autoplay off?

is that for it? or the mission autoplay of story mode?

oh also can i hide this bar? sometimes chat being underneath it and kinda bothers..

[narrow cedar]

you can, in game settings theres an option "show tips" if you turn that off this bar will disappear

[eager salmon]

ty!, and appearently after turning the upper option off, it resolved they two so am happy with it

[stiff wigeon]

My dorm is at comfort 3060 and i need 3070 to get to max lv but ive bought all the dorm furniture alr so what do i do?

[stoic crest]

How scared should I be of Abyss and is it hard to rank up?

[glacial rune]

nothing scary, unless you're in nirvana

[spare furnace]

#🎮honkai-chat message

[vernal terrace]

[glacial rune]

[quasi pier]

you'll be just fine

[vernal terrace]

[fervent musk]

[dusky mantle]

Slacc time?

Probably could do better considering i f up transition lmao

[weak drum]

what ya cookin

[dusky mantle]

Standard. Vita fdd hofi

[weak drum]

what in the low score

[dusky mantle]

Did you not read? I f up transition

[weak drum]

cmon how bad can it be

surely its not a -40p

[dusky mantle]

Literally i missed one claw lmao

[crude cloak]

Missing 1 parry is a massive pts loss

[weak drum]

shit

[crude cloak]

Not that far from truth

[dusky mantle]

Nvm its just one claw ahahh

[weak drum]

brainless way for transition is just spamming fdd wa btw (what im doing fr)

[dusky mantle]

Anyways yeah

So i missed a claw

Considering the slacc life rn since t2

[weak drum]

just chill ngl

[cunning gull]

youll prob be fine
but bc u know what mistake you made u can fix it and you're free to slack about it

[dusky mantle]

Nrrrrrrhhhh

[signal anvil]

do i need to do the event to unlock the skills?

[weak drum]

no

the event tag is there just because there’s a discount event right now that makes skills cheaper

[signal anvil]

oh, i thought in 2 things, that one i said, and the other one like they are limited skill or something like that, thank you

[weak drum]

nah they wont do something that schewpid yet

[signal anvil]

i see, anyways thanks for answering

[weak drum]

[dusky mantle]

Dont say it ahaha

[arctic birch]

aside from dkeys would it be stupid to buy edens and hotrs weapons? i think ill buy another knight soon so its not like these are the only crystallums ill have just would it be silly?

or just buy hotrs since their both lightening supports

and supports fire too

[spiral raven]

well the valks r kinda dead, maybe if u find usage u can go for it, but other than ma u cant find usage for eden, and for hotr maybe if trio gets a weather and u kinda want to retain for that cycle ig but hard to say, most scenarios u just save the crystallums to get stuff like weap sync or stamps for more relevant char

[strange oak]

best team for seele dlc? (dps)

[spiral raven]

well it depends on weather, last time most ppl ended up using badum vita

[vernal terrace]

HLE Badum was likely used too
Vita Badum
Vita HLE
Badum HLE

[arctic birch]

ohh i see, i only have 3 part 2 valks hle and badum and a thelema whichs useless without weap and i dont plan on getting her weap so i just have pt1ers mostly

ill just buy eden weap then and save the rest cuz ive always wanted a maxed eden so not a total loss even if shes dead i have no hofi either just hoo so hotrs trio mechanics are more bum on my acc then nabbing edens weap

[spiral raven]

in that case yea sure, just buy the eden weap then

[arctic birch]

ty for ur help

[hexed portal]

How do pt2 valks work

[craggy plume]

#👶beginner-help message see last link in the FAQ for info about teambuilding

[edgy hamlet]

anyone hab vita ref for nirb?

[spiral raven]

is just a matter of changing ur timing on when to ring and ult no, ref kinda doomged cuz its gonna be hard to find one that matches ur dmg, or is close to dmg

[rough haven]

||Are there any combat parts in p2 chapter 10?||

[edgy hamlet]

Yea thats the issue rn. Most refs are SS

[dark phoenix]

[iron mesa]

the dream is alive.

[vernal bronze]

Tencent? You’re alive?

[iron mesa]

only occasionally

heya memes

[vernal bronze]

It’s good to see you man, I feel like I should catch up with people I haven’t seen in so long

Just you know, to see if they’re occasionally alive

[iron mesa]

I usually just "ask for help" getting better low abyss scores noe.

[waxen chasm]

hello , is any tier list in the game ?

[waxen chasm]

I would like to know who i should focus to pull now .-.

any recomendation ?

[dark phoenix]

for new player, you just focus on newest release, which is HLE

[waxen chasm]

I have her already 😄

[dark phoenix]

pull newest valk, save for next patch and repeat basically that

[waxen chasm]

but hwat is her best team ?

[vernal bronze]

Mmm, I see

Not active in Discord anymore?

[waxen chasm]

and what is the astral op .-. ? I just have some elfs

[dark phoenix]

no real best team, content matter in this game
endgame mode change twice a week, each boss has different team that they are good at

[vernal bronze]

Didn’t know myriad can extend into red lotus

[dark phoenix]

for beginner, you just use budget team and waait for new release to fill the slot

[waxen chasm]

yea but tell me a coupe of teams of her .-. so i can play her xd

[dark phoenix]

check #👶beginner-help pins, it has budget team and rot

better check other pinned message and ask question there, more helper in that channel

[waxen chasm]

I cant find anything about her team .-.

[elfin parrot]

Hsien only linked the channel. The pins were mentioned and you were expected to open and view them there.

do you have trouble opening the pins? Or are you just lost in the many links in the pins of that channel?

There's alot of info and resources we have there so we really would prefer of you to know how to access it on your own for future reference

oh ok i see you're getting help there now. Please disregard

[dusky mantle]

Omg i have to unslacc

People waking

Ok itz just 780 no biggie

[brave carbon]

does anyone have a nirv ref for all s0 stuff

[full trench]

op or no

[brave carbon]

s op

[dark phoenix]

seem a bit hard, maybe awa can make one

[eager smelt]

s0 sucks ass

theres no dmg

[full trench]

pretty sure they lose buffs by parrying with hfi wa but u can just not do that

oh im stupid

[eager smelt]

delulu

it adds buffs but trash duration

[full trench]

yeah

[brave carbon]

feels like im gonna end up -200ing, prob shouldnt bother trying then

[full trench]

i dont see anything on yt so ur gonna have to cook urself

[full trench]

i mean u can try but yeah probably demote

idk if that was a 1 ring or 2 ring run but try the other and see if it's better

[brave carbon]

oh and also is teri or chenxue better for lp if both s

[full trench]

but for 2 ring ur gonna need the tornado evades

chenxue

[eager smelt]

have to do 2 ring but probably 700

bricked

[red plank]

what is the best team for this abyss boss with PAWS lead?

be aware idk shit about HLE gameplay rn because im really not into this new valk atm(no hate tho)

[vernal terrace]

Would say PAWS, FDD, FWS

[red plank]

k

thnx

[brave carbon]

are there pishacha refs for ps without sparkle?

[spiral raven]

a lot, what do u need

basically almost every combinatino could do it

[brave carbon]

i just used fdd fws and got 47888, wondering if there are any other stuff that scores higher

[weak drum]

ps dudu fdd/jds/vita/paws plz

[spiral raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1H3UdYQEFU?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9&p=13

[brave carbon]

oh god 3s ds

[spiral raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1H3UdYQEFU?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9&p=8

[spiral raven]

it shouldnt be needed iirc

i dont think sss does much in general

[weak drum]

thx babe

[spiral raven]

if u have teri just sue teri

[weak drum]

she's literally just ss but you get 10 more sp

and you deal more dmg only if the enemy is typeless

[formal wigeon]

Pinata do be typeless

[dusky mantle]

omg my sp problems are solved

[digital sky]

10 extra sp is so good tho

Makes it easier to ult in GoI fs

[edgy hamlet]

Tornado evades? I did 2 ring but didn't do whatever that is

[full trench]

when he does the tornado attack u evade them with jump cancels

[edgy hamlet]

Oh I need to learn how to do that but it may be too late already lol

[full trench]

https://youtu.be/QVFuJdOxjwQ?si=OhdZOOVBG1QroYF5&t=83

[edgy hamlet]

What the hell...

[gloomy seal]

Where can I see the version schedule again (when events will happen and stuff)?

[crude cloak]

In the pins here

[weak drum]

check pins in this channel

[gloomy seal]

Thanks

[light wing]

why does the wolf in the current Abyss, when dealing dmg with smol Coralie has “Immune” all over him… he’s only immune against Ice is he not?

[eager smelt]

simple
ur coralie has trash affixes

[light wing]

wait let me check

oh

redid the boss with Sena-Sparkle-Lantern anyways, Dragon Coralie wasn’t doing so much

[light wing]

thx!

[eager smelt]

sena sparkle lantern

[light wing]

I’ve been using that team very often often times it made me retain Redlotus

[digital sky]

Sena.. sparkle?

[light wing]

it’s one of the best teams I have atm

[eager smelt]

yeah i can tell why it only retains rl at best

u dont have anyone else?

[light wing]

Sena-(A)Helia-Lantern is an alternative
or Sena-Teri-Lantern, but Teri no weapon

against Lightning-weak that is

[digital sky]

What units do u have like pt2 all together
U only have sena lantern and teri(wepless) as S ranks?

[light wing]

• SSS Chenxue, SS Sera, SS Songque AOp

[digital sky]

And u chose sena lantern sparkle?

[formal wigeon]

pulling SSS aop isntead of a valk

[digital sky]

U got hofi

[light wing]

yeah, my Sena team is stronger

[light wing]

am waifu-puller

though Teri was an accident

HLE too

[safe spade]

!memory

!memory

Why nothing happen

!memory!

[eager smelt]

need to be prof for commands

[safe spade]

Bruh

Can you help out then?

I need da 10 crustals

[half hatch]

!faq memory

[night parcel]

Photographic Memory

Let me help, Captain!

See below for the solutions of the Photographic Memory tasks that we often see Captains get stuck on!

WIP, DM/ping Lyo (ebay.co.uk) with an image of any missing puzzles!

[light wing]

solved

nevermind, was too slow

[light wing]

but a general tip for those is to typically start with the “worst” shape… cause like: if you see that it would “enclose” a corner, then it probably doesn’t go there and then you can exclude positions and gradually feel in the rest with that kind of approach

[finite barn]

does anyone have any tips for timing vbm's basics to counter andrius... i keep whiffing one of the three and its getting very annoying

[narrow cedar]

you can swing earlier coralie has almost no vulnerable opening between her basic 1 and 2 swings so that whole duration should parry. other option is jump and press attack the whole downward strike is long and the entire thing can parry so it is easy to use as well

[finite barn]

ooh ok thank you

[lapis raven]

any 47952 ref for ps fdd paw

[stoic crest]

Every valk im using doesn’t even work for the last abyss DoW is there something I'm missing with my valks?

[craggy plume]

You have basically only one team you should expect to lose whenever it isn't their boss. You don't have lightning and you also don't have anything with a good type matchup into the fight so there isn't a good line for you. May still retain in A3 but RL depends a lot on the bracket slaccing

Coverage is really important for Abyss performance and it takes a while to get good enough teams to clear decently

[glossy lark]

Heya. I'm a returning player, quit when part 2 started and fully came back recently. I just got Love Elf and I'm conflicted on which weapon to pull first. I have a whole 4 AR characters (Vita, the 2 a-ranks, and HLE) and I don't know whether to pull for Ely's weapon or HoRB divine key so I can have more AR. Thanks!

[eager smelt]

hle

[glossy lark]

Thank you!

[pale musk]

I need to reach 670 in D554 to retain (technically 643). Is it possible with this team and/or S Teri

[eager smelt]

should be

[past torrent]

who's more worth getting from Festival? Vita, Kiana, Sushang, or Sparkle, I have all but Sushang

is it worth getting more ranks on them or no?

[cunning gull]

check #👶beginner-help carnival pin it talks about ranks as well if you own the valks

[past torrent]

damn, so Kiana it is ig

or do I try for Sushang

cause idk if I can even grind out enough crystals for her weapon fast enough

[cunning gull]

no no just do the free pulls only

[past torrent]

I have the free ones

[cunning gull]

go for ps if you don't own her, her shill is awful without her

[past torrent]

ok

[cunning gull]

even if she'll just support for it

[past torrent]

her chill?

[cunning gull]

i meant shill

aka her bosses

[past torrent]

oh

ok, let me do them, rq

[cunning gull]

also hitcount bosses as well

[past torrent]

is it worth going for weapon if I do get her?

[cunning gull]

no

her weapon is recommended to her but this supply isn't worth it

you need to somehow have surplus pulls that you won't need next patch to commit to the weapon

[past torrent]

whats next patch?

cause I need it to be more worth than my Elysia wep

[cunning gull]

current info is in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion wait few days for more info

[cunning gull]

i would say get ely weapon anyways

if you mean hle

[past torrent]

so, about that

[past torrent]

the new one

[cunning gull]

yeah then get her weapon

since hle will have more shill for being new

[past torrent]

ok

[cunning gull]

then in 8.6 you'll decide based on your income but that's for later

gl and congrats on ps!

[past torrent]

I've been f2p since the HoO banner that was like a year and a half ago

[cunning gull]

oh for weapon you can use the realm of battle fist or whatever fist that you have leveled
her lack of weapon does hurt her dps but her support is fine

[past torrent]

oh, does Vicissitude gauntlet work?

prolly not, nvm

[cunning gull]

sure

nothing compares to her weapon but you can equip whats leveled so you don't use up resources

[past torrent]

icic

[cunning gull]

and ig a bit of atk on her as well... although not too relevant for this case

[past torrent]

is there somewhere I can see whats coming in 8.6?

[cunning gull]

this

[past torrent]

ah

ty

[cunning gull]

but its too early so wait few days

[past torrent]

ic

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/beoTTLpOwOk ok so I reached the target score, but just in case, is there anything I can do to make it go faster?

[eager smelt]

took too long to refresh hofi
theres other things but thats the biggest issue

[pale musk]

in the middle or beginning of 2nd half or somewhere else?

https://youtu.be/Rb6GMCrBVls also I revamped the run and gained 5 pts

I got to 689 but I don't want to spam

[digital sky]

The next boss is HoRbs right?

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[cunning gull]

isn't it lv's

[weak drum]

dom trib is horb shill

well it used to be lv’s too but horb dkey should steal it back

[cunning gull]

so the transition doesn't need the bleed stuff?

[weak drum]

nah its just a phys shield

[cunning gull]

oh
damn it could have tried it in rl

[weak drum]

lv actually stole it just because her weap has one singular bat lmfao

[eager smelt]

surely

[cunning gull]

[weak drum]

surely

no way horb dkey makes her score worse

[vernal terrace]

Can lv even break the shield?

[eager smelt]

once a fraud always a fraud

[weak drum]

nah

[vernal terrace]

Thought so

[weak drum]

usually you just wait or somehow kill with ce? i havent watched a ref in so long

[vernal terrace]

Potential man

[umbral vigil]

Just fully analyzed "Animus" from floor 16 (Submerged city) , is there any other bosses/enemies I should farm from the lower floors? Also when it weekly resets does it go back to floor 1?

[dark phoenix]

hermit 8
hanged man 11
sword v 13 if demon
animus/demon/hermit 16 rotate everyweek
empress 20
hermit 24
hanged man, empress 31
anima or empress 36
the death 40
the pritess 42
my old note, not very sure how often they change the enemy for other floor
iirc, you only need to farm anima there

there're more ofc but i only notice them at the time

[umbral vigil]

I see ty, do you remember if the weekly reset for it always go back to floor 1 no matter what floor you on when it finalizes or does it just reset to the last save point you had?

[dark phoenix]

will go back to the second nearest saving point iirc

[spiral raven]

dno others but ios cn t1 was lv yea, but on andriod it was hare

dom tribunal is actually hare

ss hare loses to ss lv

but anyways horb shill but actually its hare

[arctic remnant]

Is there any character that is better than others for this? I’d love to Get all the scoring rewards

[eager smelt]

if ur just going for rewards u can use whoever u want since its pretty easy to get 27k

optimal char only matters for leaderboard

[safe spade]

!faq memory

!faq memory

Dang ts so ahh, I need some other person to help me out. Whats the point on having these commands if only certain people can use it? They could literally just make a chanel for these puzzle solving mechanics and let users use commands on a bot to help them out

!faq memory

Ye it dont work....

[modern yew]

Only mods/profs can use faqs

[safe spade]

Then why not create a chanel where people can use these commands for puzzle solving mechanics??

I legit cant even find these puzzles solved on yt or anything.

[modern yew]

U ask me but who am i suppose to ask

[safe spade]

Understandable

[modern yew]

Btw the solution to yours is the 4th one in the pic

[safe spade]

Aight thanks

[rigid cedar]

!faq memory

[night parcel]

Photographic Memory

Let me help, Captain!

See below for the solutions of the Photographic Memory tasks that we often see Captains get stuck on!

WIP, DM/ping Lyo (ebay.co.uk) with an image of any missing puzzles!

[rigid cedar]

It would take a lot more resources for Ai-Chan to process user inputs, that'd be my guess

especially with the amount of people in this server

[weak drum]

i’d definitely spam the hell out of that channel just bc i can

[rigid cedar]

and searching the faqs in the search bar also works, most relevant ones are openly documented at the bottom of the wall of guides pin in #👶beginner-help

if you need something that isn't there yet, please let me or another prof know

[edgy hamlet]

Can I just spam Vill-V in the event to get 27k on the emblem? If so, what weapons does she want?

[dark phoenix]

yes, she is the best there
get mkIII, nuke, lamp, cd, atk speed, atk
full signature before thr first boss

[weak drum]

the last map is pretty big so just dodge the enemies there fr

[edgy hamlet]

this one's the nuke right?

[dark phoenix]

yes

[edgy hamlet]

ok thank you

[lyric blaze]

is it still worth trying to pull horb wep if i can’t guarantee or should i just save for next patch?

[rigid cedar]

have you gotten HLE already?

[lyric blaze]

yes she’s 4/4

[rigid cedar]

and many other world star valks?

to use horb with

or goi

if so, I'd say it's worth it

she is just a bit niche right now, but when GoI or WS get more physical valks she will have her uses as a support even more

[craggy plume]

I would also recheck and see if you can guarantee next patch valk if you get her as that should most likely be more important.

[lyric blaze]

ohh tyty i might just save then since i only have sparkle and sena for WS and only sparkle has her wep

[terse gyro]

My daughter. I love her.

[full trench]

what do i do for MA, i heard thel is best on tank but idk how to 0s alien guard without her

[weak drum]

hle horb for guard

https://youtu.be/s2h5QsJUCkM

[full trench]

tysm cheslao

wait do u actually need s2 horb for this

[weak drum]

nah

horb aint doing the damage

[full trench]

had to use roo for dmg scam ref

[weak drum]

L

[full trench]

when i get +3 horb dkey and glorp all over everyone in myriad ur gonna eat ur words

[weak drum]

[full trench]

ok now how do i do the sss bosses

[weak drum]

ps fdd badum/jds on slime

hohe thel sena for tank

no refs bc im too lazy

[weak drum]

wait you have chen right kan

[full trench]

yeah

stop whatever ur train of thought was though

[weak drum]

fuck you the ss run wasnt hard at all

[oak anchor]

Am I able to use the call of cresent on the Messenger of love Elysia, or am I deep fried until I get her signature weapon?

[full trench]

depends on the content, she'll still be your best option even without weapon

[full trench]

cheslao i cant even 0s p1 help me

[steady osprey]

yes and yes

[weak drum]

is hle qte on

[full trench]

i meant tank but i got it

[weak drum]

oh lma

[full trench]

still 1s run though 💔

now pisscaca but last time i only got 3s i think

not sure how to get 2

[prisma olive]

Which way?

[craggy plume]

Beginner pins have a post with some details about the value of each choice

[glacial rune]

ely

[elfin parrot]

I don't think I can consider HoTr since

• it doesn't seem like you have FoV?
• for HoFi it seems you don't have her divine key either?

For HoHE, you also lack her divine key so I don't have a strong reason to consider her either.

I'm not saying to pick Ancient Willpower though. You will still consider HoTr or HoHE but it doesn't matter too much for now.

Do you have any plans to roll on any of these if they rerun? (not recommended overall)

EDIT: overall consider waiting for now (box expires at the end of the year) until we get more info on next patch's valk

Maybe @glacial rune is seeing something I'm not seeing and can explain more why they picked HoHE

[glacial rune]

they alr have both, and since realistically hotr is already dead (or soon to be dead because HoO is dying next patch) apart from MA, realistically Ely ranks are better because she's at least playable in p2 with new DK

[elfin parrot]

They can still consider HoFi main dps (although I do think this is less relevant over HoHE), and overall they still lack both Stellar Keys right?

[glacial rune]

just purely from a materialistic point of view and value-wise hotr is worse now. Now, the answer would be different if they didnt have hotr at all

[elfin parrot]

yeah i'm following overall

[glacial rune]

yeah, if i didnt miss anything, but hohe's stellar key will rerun if they're interested in it, while hotr just has questionable prospects overall

now, whether i'd recommend pulling on it is another topic

[elfin parrot]

Maybe next valk can ||obsolete hofi too on flower. No clue there. I only know RS wasn't good enough||

[glacial rune]

looking like it tbf but we need more info

[elfin parrot]

Ideally I would want to wait and see if they can tell me more about any future plans they have, and/or also wait for next valk beta performance since it'll become open beta soon

yeah

[glacial rune]

this box is not going anywhere right? i didnt check

[elfin parrot]

yeah it expires at the end of the year

[glacial rune]

safe to wait then

[elfin parrot]

it is pretty annoying dealing with this constantly lol https://i.imgur.com/1AaaL4S.png

i'm pretty good about ignoring it but i'm sure it's insufferable to some others

(i prob don't need to wait for myself but i'm just trying to be a role model lmao)

but i digress

[glacial rune]

im used to this in other hoyo games because i cant be bothered to read their notices

[elfin parrot]

big same lol

[glacial rune]

realistically, though, both choices are pretty rip if you're going to be trying to be a meta player

[elfin parrot]

yeah

[glacial rune]

but at lest hohe has some bosses

[elfin parrot]

and maybe they like one choice over another

i do need to keep in mind to update my write up soon once we know more about next patch

[glacial rune]

yup, im waiting for it to make a lot of stuff pretty obsolete, to be honest

[river vault]

no matter what I do I can't clear this at all, trial or not trial character... Any tips how to do it fast enough? I'm confused, never had such issue before...

[elfin parrot]

!faq er guide

[night parcel]

Elysian Realm

I'm here to help, Captain!

Click here for signet guides!
-# Also see Shallow Sequence Tutorials here.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

check the second link

Sirin is a bit of a tricky one because the build they gave you in shallow sequence isn't her typical playstyle. They don't want you to do the big flashy glyph charging move

Dunno if that was your actual issue. It was what confused me personally. But anyway the video in the playlist should cover how you should really be playing her there. The trial should be good enough at worst

[river vault]

Tysm!!

[steady osprey]

u should do tutorial to get used to the valk first...

[elfin parrot]

I mean the main game tutorial isn't going to really cover how to play her properly there lol

but yeah the tutorial can introduce you to sirin's moveset if you're not already familiar

[river vault]

i am familiar with sirin, used her before

[elfin parrot]

(it sounds like you're already familiar though since you've tried her already)

yeah

[river vault]

tysm for telling me that!!! it helped LOL

[spark lance]

Any of you have been able to complete a team for S+ errands?
It's been a long while since I last did

[elfin parrot]

seems you used the refresh feature already. Sadly not much more to do from here.

the key to doing those is having base S rank valks at SS rank. So it's overall a long term project with war treasury

[spark lance]

Ok, the SS part I didn't know, I have a few but always forget to buy fragments every week.

And this has been happening since at least a month if not more,no matter how many times I refreshed

[elfin parrot]

oh i didn't realize SSS has changes too but largely speaking multiple SS is good enough (at least usually?) and lesser cost to reach

iirc the refresh feature just jumbles up the kind of stats it wants, but the amount of each stat it wants is determined by the rank of the task itself.

i think I have heard of lower levelled players getting crystal tasks that were more manageable too. So maybe you observed a change from inevitable progression as well

[spark lance]

Welp, it was helpful, so thanks

[elfin parrot]

Also if you have other errands ongoing in the same day (cannot cancel errands from prev days), see if you can cancel them as well

to free up possible high stated valks that were occupied there

and see if that can enable you to accept the crystal errand

ofc you would have to reset the timer if you need to send them back out after a cancel

[spark lance]

Nah, I always checked the S+ errands first before filling up the others, so it is just my roster not being enough

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/TAqZcPJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZyicEIx.png

A rank task that stays at 14 of one stat and 12 of another the entire time

[quasi pier]

before hoyo changed the way dorm buffs worked, I used to keep my dorm level low on purpose so I could do the S+ errands easier

[elfin parrot]

oh ok it's based on dorm level. I couldn't remember

[quasi pier]

yeah the higher the dorm level, the more errands expect from you

[elfin parrot]

dorm squad right? prob not comfort?

[quasi pier]

dorm squad yeah

[elfin parrot]

ty ty~

[split wigeon]

ok guys just got to lvl 80 and im wondering what breaking the level cap does

[elfin parrot]

!faq breakthrough

[night parcel]

Breakthrough

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

• It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!

Also see !faq superstring regarding Exalted Abyss

[elfin parrot]

give this a read

[split wigeon]

tyty

[elfin parrot]

feel free to ask if you have any other questions or anything specific to your account to consider

[sacred cape]

Anyone got the image for dorm comfort

[elfin parrot]

!faq comfort

[night parcel]

Dorm Comfort

Let's get building, Captain!

Click here to see the more in-depth guide from TencentDimepiece!

It is not worth buying the Beach Dorm. It is not worth increasing your Comfort beyond 2400 because the Onigiri regen is 17/h until 4800 Comfort then it become 18/h, which needs the Beach Dorm anyway.

If you want to know the secret to farming Honkai Blocks (please never spend coins on Dorm materials), [click here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[oak anchor]

Should I use Jingwei's wings, or Judgement of Shamash for New Years Kiana?

[elfin parrot]

jingwei wings doesn't really have any relevant effects for badum/fws kiana.

Whereas for shamash there's this https://i.imgur.com/l2pz2Qq.png

so i guess you can use that. (i assume the atk stats of these to be similar. You can bring jingwei to lv 35 but I do not recommend spending honkai shards on it to upgrade it to higher level caps. Those are not easy to get and are better spent on long term best weapons)

However if a valk doesn't have her signature weapon, you don't really expect to use them as a primary dps. Use other valks that you do have the signature weapons for the time being and mainly use FWS for support.

You may be tempted to catch up on FWS' siganture weapon when it reruns but for long term f2p meta purposes, I do not recommend this. The crystal mileage from catching on it isn't as worth it now as opposed to spending those crystals on something actually newly released.

[oak anchor]

Alr ty

Should I try going for Elysia's signature for now?

[elfin parrot]

sorry quick edit on the first part

[elfin parrot]

which elysia are you referring to? There are two current relevant ones

!faq battlesuit

[night parcel]

Characters vs Battlesuits

Ai-chan is confused, Captain...

Please be specific about which battlesuit you are referring to by using their battlesuit name - better yet, its abbreviated form! See the glossary here.

In Honkai Impact 3rd, several of the playable Valkyries have alternate forms, these are called "battlesuits".

• For example, Herrscher of Reason is a battlesuit of Bronya's, and so are Wolf's Dawn, Yamabuki Armor, and Silverwing: N-EX!

Many battlesuits that share the same Character (e.g. Fenghuang of Vicissitude and Herrscher of Sentience; Fu Hua) have very different roles and thus different applications in your teams as they have COMPLETELY different skills and gameplay.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

MPE, HoHE, and HLE are all elysia battlesuits

• MPE is farmable but no longer relevant to the meta
• HoHE originally doesn't have astral ring but can get astral ring functions with her newest gacha only weapon rerunning later this patch (not recommended)
• HLE is the latest ely released this patch. That weapon is fine to go for if you already own HLE for now.

i don't expect you to under abbreviations immediately or memorize them overnight but

!faq glossary

[night parcel]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[oak anchor]

Sorry sorry I meant current 😭

[elfin parrot]

for future reference you can check that (also pinned in #👶beginner-help)

assuming you already own HLE, then yeah try to get the weapon before the banner leaves

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

can look through these if you don't know how to get more crystals. (Second link are for missables so prioritize those)

[oak anchor]

alr alr tysm

[oak anchor]

PS: I dont want you to think otherwise but I COMPLETELY love Elysia and am aware of her other equally loveable forms, was just hoping you'd think I was reffering to the current Elysia lol

[elfin parrot]

in the future it's best if you're more specific rather than hoping for us to assume

[oak anchor]

Yeah sorry sorry xd

[elfin parrot]

we might get it wrong, or we'll just ask for clarification

[oak anchor]

my fault on that part

[elfin parrot]

all good

it is true we're getting alot of ely fans so at least we avoided any preemptive conclusions

oh actually i misread just now

actually if you're also an ely fan, do you need further guidance on any of her other forms?

[oak anchor]

no, but thanks for the offer ^^

I'm planning to work on the other forms after I finish the valkyries I currently need to build and such

but again, thanks for all the help :p

[winter widget]

Made this team for the current Memorial Arena using HorB's Divine Key and it honestly turned out pretty alright. Wanted to share and see if anyone had any other recommendations for HorB as support in the current meta

[thick aspen]

You would have probably done significantly better just putting sushang as the leader.. despite horb not having loa support tag

[vernal terrace]

Wish she had more tags than her main ars and Symbiosis

[stoic crest]

How much crystals do you get from abyss per patch again?

[vernal terrace]

Trying to find the faq

@stoic crest

Might be more now though since longer patches

[craggy plume]

Yes you should get 20K in RL in exalted

[vernal terrace]

8-9 weeks I would say are the standard for patches now

[cunning gull]

my calculations suggestions around 80 pulls for a rl retainer assuming you do dailies n whatnot but i would suggest using the crystal calculator for more details

[cunning gull]

first part does not include freebies

[vernal terrace]

Should I use someone else for 3rd or?

[weak drum]

is that ss

[vernal terrace]

Tank

[weak drum]

what is that cooking

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

no boodum?

[vernal terrace]

I have badum

[weak drum]

why not hle lead (or is she locked on slimeh

[vernal terrace]

I used PS, FDD, PAWS on Pistachio

[weak drum]

ok hle horb badum for 1s tank

[vernal terrace]

I just didn't need whether to use Thelema or Badum on AG

[weak drum]

hohe thel sena works too

you’re too new for sena tho

[cunning gull]

ideally badum for horb

[weak drum]

so hle it is

[winter widget]

What makes Elysia LE good off leader? I couldn't see it in her kit at least.

[cunning gull]

or for hle

[weak drum]

hohe thel can just 0s ag

[weak drum]

cooked

[vernal terrace]

Team I used for pistachio

[cunning gull]

she's a good world star or wheel of destiny support, check her tags

[weak drum]

surely hohe thel can ag

[vernal terrace]

Weaponless Thel, VBm?

[weak drum]

nvm

what were you even trying to cook with horb and weapless thel lmfao

[vernal terrace]

Like I have anything else

[weak drum]

most of the time, a valk’s buffs for other rings are in her stigmata, not her kits btw

[cunning gull]

well thats one way to free a slot

since they can't use thel anywhere else

[weak drum]

surely 3s ss ag at worst

wait no 3rd slot for ag

[vernal terrace]

VBs staying in the bin for this MA

[weak drum]

i keep on forgetting that riley is still new

[cunning gull]

always has been

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

surely 8.6 saves you

[vernal terrace]

Not by much

[weak drum]

[cunning gull]

||ig 8.6 will let you use thel but it will lock you to use hle for her||

||either that or she'll be a loa support||

[vernal terrace]

Yeah-

[vernal terrace]

||If she's even better than what I have ||

[winter widget]

Got it! Thanks! I missed it, thanks!

[cunning gull]

yeah...

[vernal terrace]

Badum and PS though LoA DPS themselves are quite great as LoA supports also

So just cope with Weaponless Thel on AG?

[weak drum]

me when im spoiled by badum sup

im not used to using badum lead

[vernal terrace]

Kek

[digital sky]

Can thelema not be used as a support without her weapon? :(

[vagrant fractal]

hello I'm new, why aren't they releasing pt2 valks anymore??

[weak drum]

bc ur bad

[vagrant fractal]

[weak drum]

i mean, you have no one else

[cunning gull]

tell dawei and you'll get it

[cunning gull]

you don't have enough units to try scoring high on MA so ill just focus on making proper teams for the 2 SSS bosses

[vagrant fractal]

I'm putting all my chips on Roza/Lili next

[cunning gull]

[vernal terrace]

Alright

[eager smelt]

hoyo doesnt even remember who they are

[vagrant fractal]

[vernal terrace]

Well I got 800 on both SSS

[weak drum]

erm ur kinda mid srry

[vernal terrace]

[eager salmon]

hello.. mei's in story chapter 8 act 7 gameplay against the huge mech were terrible tbh.. try it out

i mean her sword is short.. and boss is huge and kind of pushing mei away when tries to hit with basic atk

[eager smelt]

dont worry
it doesnt get better until chapter 26

[eager salmon]

so its valkre model problem xdd

[vernal terrace]

850+ now

[craggy plume]

wrong server this is HI3

[vernal terrace]

Wrong server

[hallow orchid]

omg im so sorry

[oak anchor]

In a team with coralie, New years Kiana, and sparkles, who should be the team leader?

[cunning gull]

either badum or sparkle can be the leader depends on what the boss wants
at least sparkle can utilize vbm more than fws but if these are your only unis then either as the leader is fine
also depending on who has their sig weapon because if you don't have it on someone they automatically lose dps

[leaden tulip]

how do I fix this 😭

[oak anchor]

Im poor so I DONT have the signature of either 💔

[full trench]

being poor is not an excuse for having a sigless valk, if ur poor just dont pull

[oak anchor]

sorry

[full trench]

i forgive you

[cunning gull]

nvm then, its definitely brueforceable in q manifold but you'll struggle to superstring
do you have any other p2 unit or any geared valks?

and by geared i mean sig stuff

[oak anchor]

...

The only way I'll have a geared valks is by having their stigmata sets maxed out

[cunning gull]

fws, sparkle and vbm don't have their sig stigmata maxed?

or do they not have their stigmata?

[full trench]

ideally all your characters would have their stigs maxed but the important thing is having 3pc

[oak anchor]

I havent done sparkle yet cuz im busy building other characters rn

I only just got her from returnee a few weeks ago and have never touched her since

but kiana and coralie have their sets maxed out

[cunning gull]

what about weapons? i hope you didn't max a foundry weapon..

[oak anchor]

all my weapons for the valks I actually use are pathetically pitiful and are no better than worthless substitutions for the signature weapons 💔

[cunning gull]

at least for now just keep what they have as is, don't level anything else
if you want you can talk more about your progress on your account and what goals you have because i have other suggestions i can offer

[oak anchor]

I mean, I spend my crystals too much on battlesuit supplies(Cuz I love gambling) but now that I feel like I have two solid teams of valks I can actually work with, ig I'll just start trying to save crystals for signatures for their reruns

[eager smelt]

u better hope they rerun

[red crane]

[cunning gull]

at this point you want to save for new releases because you'll struggle with that more

but don't pull new releases if you can't afford the weapon as well

[oak anchor]

alr xd

tysm

[lapis raven]

haha noob

[full trench]

u must have at least 2 kianas with astral ring to speak

[open bone]

So true

[past torrent]

should I try to get the current AstralOp if I plan to use Songque?

https://tenor.com/view/songque-que-maria-honkai-honkai-impact-gif-12125217032155141695

[eager smelt]

no

[past torrent]

is the current AstralOp bad?

[eager smelt]

astral ops in general arent worth

they cost too much for what they give

[crude cloak]

AOs are only worth getting if you frequently are in Nirvana and wanna stay there

[past torrent]

Oh

[crude cloak]

And ofc assuming you actually have the crystals for that

[crude cloak]

(keep in mind that some AOs require SS to be worth considering)

[past torrent]

I mean, I think getting to Nirvana would be cool but unlikely for me

[crude cloak]

And even then you wanna be pulling brand new ones, not backpulling

[past torrent]

Is Serapeum at S worth it for Songque tho?

[crude cloak]

Well, it is an improvement, but it won't be impactful enough in RL and below

[past torrent]

Cause I only have Dreamseeker, AO Songque and Theresa

Oh

So, what AstralOp do I use with her

[crude cloak]

In your case DS

[past torrent]

All the guides I find are saying Sera

[crude cloak]

Assuming Songque leader

[past torrent]

Ye

[crude cloak]

(why are you running Songque leader tho xdd)

[past torrent]

I have the ba dum Kiana but idk how she works so I haven’t used her

I like Songque

[crude cloak]

Well, Songque will be better in a LoA comp

Badum leader is one of the options

[past torrent]

She’s one of two P2 characters I actually like

LoA?

[crude cloak]

Law of Ascension, an AR type

[past torrent]

Oh

So what’s an example team?

I do not have the Coralie or Helia S ranks btw

Pretty much everyone else tho

[crude cloak]

Badum Vita Songque would be best then

[past torrent]

Free

With DS or?

[crude cloak]

Nah, LoA comps should use Teri

[past torrent]

Is Teri good at S

[crude cloak]

Yes

[past torrent]

Everyone is S so, hopefully that’s not bad

[crude cloak]

Ranks are not a requirement by any means, especially in RL

[past torrent]

Nice

[crude cloak]

In some other cases (like Phys weather) you could run RS or PS leader

[past torrent]

I know who PS is but who is RS?

[crude cloak]

Reign Solaris

[past torrent]

That’s a character?

[crude cloak]

Yes

!faq glossary

[night parcel]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral raven]

names dont mean anything

[crude cloak]

You can refer to this in the future

[past torrent]

When the hell did we get a new Durandal

And how was I unaware of this

[crude cloak]

8.0

[past torrent]

I’m cooked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288872027620380714/1419400851675676792/RDT_20250921_1410288867770595131714351.gif

I have so much pulling to do if I want to stay up to date

Jesus

[foggy vapor]

So strange question but with how CN is a patch ahead, does that mean that things like MA and Abyss are all predetermined? So like if I wanted I could llook up CN runs to prep for next patch?

[crude cloak]

CN is only 4 weeks ahead

And yes, we do have insight on future cycles because of that

They're pinned here

Refs on bilibili are "from the future" as well

[crude cloak]

You stay up to date by pulling only newest releases

And waiting while older stuff dies off

Unless gigawhale ofc

Not that you need to be perfectly up to date for RL purposes

[crude cloak]

So if you're searching for refs there and are applying date filters don't forget to subtract 4 weeks

[white lion]

I wanna ask.. Is it good to tune in weapon?

[weak drum]

yes, ignore the warning they did not do a good job translating it

you need to tune it to be able to pri it

remember to unlock it in the dkey section in dorm for the +10 atk

(after you tune it)

[white lion]

Alrightt

[white lion]

I think elysia weapon also can tune it right?
Because I'm not tune it

[weak drum]

her divine key yes

always tune whenever a weapon has that option

[white lion]

And the weapon is already upgrade into lvl 65

[weak drum]

that is not her divine key then

[white lion]

Yeah

Damn

[weak drum]

so you cant tune it basically, because it's a normal weapon

for your information: not every weapon that has the word "key" in its name is a divine key

this is her new weapon which is also a divine key

it allows her to have the astral ring system that part 2 valkyries have

[white lion]

Look

[weak drum]

then you've tuned it

[weak drum]

oh wait no wrong one

[white lion]

Noo

[weak drum]

that is hle, hi love elf, not herrscher of human:ego

she does not have a divine key, her weapon is a normal weapon

[white lion]

Ohh

[weak drum]

for your information: not all weapons have the "tune" option

[white lion]

That's why seele has new weapon ?

To use in part 2

[weak drum]

hoyo gave her a divine key because they wanted to i guess

we are not hoyoverse staffs, we dont know what they want and dont want to do

[white lion]

Then what happen to old weapon seele? Is it useless

[weak drum]

basically useless unless you're still using p1 physical teams

same with her old stigmata set

[white lion]

I see..

Thanks for the info

[umbral vigil]

is that the max lvl for that card?

[latent swallow]

Should I do it?

[cunning gull]

yes

[prisma olive]

I agree lol, but I think I will get the battlesuit tickets first

[rigid cedar]

!faq breakthrough

[night parcel]

Breakthrough

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

• It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!

Also see !faq superstring regarding Exalted Abyss

[hardy elm]

the special wardrobe marvelous adventure stage

isnt completing in the story for anyone else?

i get the 27 coins and the wardrobe itself ubt the stage doesnt end

[dark phoenix]

one of the stage has 2 items

maybe you missed one

[hardy elm]

its hte very last one in the collection

the 2nd one at the bottom row

is that the one with 2?

[dark phoenix]

try to restart i guess

[hardy elm]

i did

the coins are transxparent thus collected

went to the end again and nothing

[dark phoenix]

the stage with giant wheels right?

[hardy elm]

ye

its 27coins

[dark phoenix]

there's one more item after the first set of wheel iirc

[hardy elm]

hmmm ill take a closer look tommorow

no other stage had 2

[primal cove]

how do I get 1 equipment supply card

im like 1 card away from a ten pull

[glacial rune]

you can try char trials

if you have someone there you havent cleared

@primal cove

[primal cove]

I tried clearing like the bronya one

and I got stuck on the first stage😢

[glacial rune]

i'd suggest clearing the one you have a character for + gear

like i think you get HoT for free?

so this should be good, if she's leveled

depends on your account level too, though

[primal cove]

I only was able to clear the deep sea because I actually had gears for the characters

now for the others I don't have either the battlesuit or the gear for it

[glacial rune]

ik yamabuki armor one is doable but it's hard

you need to play around stage mechanics

[primal cove]

ik they said "time fracture makes the time go faster"

yet the robots manage to kill me

[glacial rune]

yeah it's block + tf and run around

i remember myself doing it and it was a pain

if it helps, i was mostly running around the outer circle

and tf when i have a skill up

the scariest ones are the flying fasts ones at the end, youd have to block them once and run away to the opposite side

[primal cove]

that helped but the guys that dash😢

[glacial rune]

yeah

never turn your back to them and always watch both + run away after 1 block

it's random though, sometimes you just get unlucky

[spiral raven]

i was about to say do u rmb the 1 hp kallen challenge, then i realised u prob weren't playing yet

just made myself feel even more oldge

[glacial rune]

i do

[spiral raven]

[glacial rune]

it's my second acc

[spiral raven]

oooh

very cool

that's nice to know

now im slightly less feeling oldge

[glacial rune]

i was a scrub back then tho

[spiral raven]

its the memories that matter

not skill

[glacial rune]

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087728190539169892/1393161179311898634/1752022405459.gif

[primal cove]

is bronya always this fragile in this stage

[weak drum]

if its the evade stage then yeah, all the mobs deal alot of dmg

since you’re supposed to evade it (established players just use dps gears on her and then just kill the mobs tho)

[primal cove]

emerging stars 1f?

[glacial rune]

it's the tf block challenge, not evade one

[weak drum]

owh oh wait yeah her hold eva is the shield

[primal cove]

whats harder stress test 2 or emerging stars

[weak drum]

i mean it just depends on how geared the valks are

btw you can check youtube for guides on how to clear those modes

[primal cove]

theyre all so old

[glacial rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGK_b7-LfJg

i found this one

[steady osprey]

the stages werent updated/changed so it still work

[weak drum]

yeah its not a problem

hi3 is an old game and it was pretty popular back when it was pretty new

so the guides for these old modes are, well, old

if you see a difference in hp bars in the vid then its just a visuals thing

the mobs still have the same amount of hp

[smoky elbow]

hey guys, just wanted to confirm something, rank up stamps dont give u the valk fragments unless u have the valk right??

[full trench]

yes

[vague flame]

i have cometh to ask you for your help

if i dont have seele dkey who should i play for abyss...RL

[eager smelt]

luna

[vague flame]

i dont have luna either unfortunately

is it joever

[half hatch]

who do you have then

[vague flame]

from p2 characters i have everyone except sleepy teri, lantern and minidudu - some characters i have dont have their weapons tho and i have everyone from p1 except luna, vicissitude, misteln andvillv

oh and i dont have hohe dkey

[mortal jetty]

Maybe u can try ely( hle) fdd badum? But its probably cope

[lapis raven]

ely as in hle not hh

hh does hv type adv tho so maybe u can try that too

[rose adder]

chat what should i get from bp shop ( i have 13 of the bp balls )

been buying hohe stamps and only have one more left to buy but i wanna get a wep considering i bought bp this season

and im also thinking of getting lv's wep since shes free next update (unless not meta anymore)

[lime grail]

what is the best er diff to level old as hell weak valks
like which one has a good xp gain to time sunken ratio

and by old as hell i mean them (ignore PS)

[elfin parrot]

i don't think anyone is really going to know that one. I only say do the highest one you can handle

valks aren't really equal, SN was buffed recently, we don't know your ranks or gear for older valks

there's just too many factors to really answer this optimally as you're requesting

[lime grail]

as you can see theyre s0

[elfin parrot]

there's prob breakpoints in difficulty though (like maybe some difficulty lets you max level in 4 runs and some other diff lets you max difficulty in 5 etc)

[lime grail]

except tp

[vague flame]

ight ill try that tysm

[elfin parrot]

oh i didn't realize they put the rank up there. Still augment core levels can be pretty big too if i have to make a devil's argument there lol

but anyway my bigger point is truly optimizing that is going to need way more computation/investigation than it's worth

[lime grail]

tp is core 6*

and stfu is idk 4*

[elfin parrot]

well more info is good in case someone else who has done it recently comes along to answer

but my bigger point is i can't really give you the answer you want. Sorry. I'm just going to say just do it lol

[lime grail]

i would put them on corruption but i feel like they would take too long to beat it especially with the garbage gear i have for them 💔 like

i aint got a single lance pri

[elfin parrot]

yeah idk. I definitely had a few where I just went to some lower difficulty i know i can handle

and if it was too easy i can rise up a difficulty on the next run

[lime grail]

i see

[elfin parrot]

obviously i wouldn't tell you to clear on the highest difficulty you can barely clear with very specific optimal signets you cannot expect for every run

so make sure it's something practical

[lime grail]

i usually use because of you to guarantee ely signets but with those valks i might have to go back to old times and ego reset

ill probably only do it next week, i dont have lite unlocked this week despite swearing i played er 🥀

[elfin parrot]

this doesn't tell us much if we don't know what rank your hohe is at. Ranks are not equal for a specific valk. Some are more notable than others.

Would the stamps let you reach that higher rank?

Do you have hohe stellar key? if not then she has no meta purposes.

---

LV is barely in the meta now. Who do you have to support her? What competition level are you at? At very high tiers, since she's so old higher ranks are very expected.

---

Alot of newer people are getting thelema from the spending event. However Thelema is very dependent on her signature weapon. So getting weapon from bp is a big consideration. (I don't recommend going out of your way for it). Does any of this applies to you? Keep in mind HoHE's competition matchups often uses thelema in her teams.

[elfin parrot]

naaah i think you can stick with because of you if the valk needs multiple ely signets.

[lime grail]

oh alr

[elfin parrot]

Also Eriesia keep in mind hohe stamps are permanently available and also available in other ways. Her meta uses is looking more niche now especially when HLE is looking to take ranged kalpas away from her for example.

You can always hold your orbs until an actual HoHE situation actually comes up to determine if you truly need the higher rank for her or not. Brackets in abyss aren't consistent either.

[rose adder]

true, my hohe is at ss w 3/50 fragments and i dont have her stellar key but im planning to get it upon her next gear rerun in a few weeks
except i also dont have thelema which brings me to a stump therefore theres not much point with hohe

[rose adder]

hmm

[elfin parrot]

it also depends on what you're using hohe on. Competitively thelema sees use for various reasons (i write a big post at the end of my hohe and hotr guide in #👶beginner-help pins)

but if you're using hohe on anything nontypical and aren't so competitive, then maybe you can just use other things

thelema brings some very specific benefits but if you just want to play hohe, the main thing is just to make sure your supports have harmonized shadow star tag so hohe gets enough rondo in the shadow effect duration during her outburst

if you're confused about that then...

!faq ring

[night parcel]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

give this last link a read first, and then look at wheel of destiny

anyway sorry to be abrupt but i need to go for now. You can leave behind questions for me to get back to later

[rose adder]

alr no worries

[vague flame]

i tried a couple teams but nothing really works for the rl boss with the characters that i have

[formal wigeon]

the basic way is to just Lite on the highest difficulty where you can clear a floor then leave and reset

you get about 1/3 or 1/4 the exp of a full run at that difficulty but it takes way less time than that

it's also mighty boring and mind numbing but any way of leveling those will be tbh

[lime grail]

so I would leave after the boss or before

[formal wigeon]

I think you need to do the boss

you need to do 1 floor manually for it to count

and iirc it drops you on the boss

[stoic crest]

Badum or Sparkle because both of them are in the tutorials for HLE

[craggy plume]

Hle is support for Sparkle and not the other way around so FWS

[elfin parrot]

advanced to the next floor, beat the boss, when it says floor progress saved, you can quit (not sure if you can quit right at the killing blow. prob not). no need to go to the floor after.

You can go to shop > then the next floor after then quit to get slightly higher rewards, but this generally doesn't cut down the runs you need for a valk to max level afaik

[craggy plume]

But I would not recommend spending crystals on either

[rugged hazel]

hellooo i just wanted to ask if theres a difference if ill claim either seven thunders or fenghuang down as my divine key? okay yk what i dont think i have every single divine key in this box option rn but is there any difference if i choose any of them? im stlll confused on how divine keys work ngl. any help is appreciated

[elfin parrot]

you can always leave the box for later. For the most part dkeys don't have any direct in battle uses anymore. The main reason to still get them is to integrate (tuning) them into your divine key menu for +10 atk each (syncing). Not alot on its own but it can add up, and make a difference at a high level of the game

!faq dkey what

[night parcel]

Divine Keys

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Divine Key explanation pin!

Divine keys are special weapons that can give permanent bonuses to your account!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

can read more about dkeys here

if this is the recent dkey box, then do you already have star of eden anti entropy?

because that's the only one not currently available in reserve work shop of the permanent battle pass

[rugged hazel]

yea im only paying attention to divine keys bc i keep seeing ppl with a lot of atk on their valks while mine's at like 23% atk on affixes yet still at 1,3k

[rugged hazel]

i dont think i do

uhhh lemme see what i dont have

[elfin parrot]

yeah dkey is part of it. Also dorm squad, affixes, and emblems can be minor sources. Valk rank too.

[solemn ermine]

hiya
i was tryna use a crystal calculator but i have a doubt. is here a good place to ask?

[rugged hazel]

abyss, abyss flower, oath of judah, xuanyuan sword, might of an-utu, twins of eden, star of eden anti entropy, seven thunders, fenghuang down, fenghuang pinions, and the senti block weapon

[elfin parrot]

Sure. I personally don't recommend the calculator if you need any precise measurements. I always say to track each source on a spreadsheet very specifically.

[rugged hazel]

wow i dont have a lot of stuff LOL

[elfin parrot]

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

It's a long term project overall

[solemn ermine]

hmm ye fair enuff
i just want both hohes outfit nd dkey and im wondering how doable it is
anyways why cant i pick an abyss? im at redlotus

[elfin parrot]

it's not +10 for each of these either. Some of these need multiple of the same category of the dkey menu to access the sync perk

[rugged hazel]

should i just leave the box for later then since i dont have a lot 🤔

[elfin parrot]

Sure. Check and make sure it doesn't expire. Even if you can narrow it down to one weapon i would still recommend you to save anyway

a single +10 atk isn't much on its own and you can always open it later when you need it

and you never know if the game will eventually force one or a lesser pool of these weapons on you

so picking early may force a dupe later on

[rugged hazel]

i dont see an expiration date maybe it'll be fine for me to save it then?

[elfin parrot]

the affix box is only to be picked if you have nothing else since it is consumable and only for one valk (whereas a dkey +10 affects all valks) but ideally in the far far future, it would be nice to get it when getting all other weapons in more forced ways

if you really have to pick something right now, soeaw is my rec for now but overall yeah just wait

is this the box? https://i.imgur.com/vIF7II5.png

it doesn't expire

an expiring box will have a little red bar of text at the bottom of that pop up iirc

[rugged hazel]

yeaaa that one

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/hPc12mO.png

[rugged hazel]

alright ill save it then tysm!

[solemn ermine]

ah alright. my bad lmfao

[elfin parrot]

crystal income changes at various captain level tiers in addition to abyss tiers

but you should be able to look it up ingame and calculate/predict manually from here

[solemn ermine]

mmh hm
thanks

[solemn ermine]

ouch.

[torn hinge]

Had same issue, found your messages and the response to them and was able to find as a result.
When you spawn into the stage, look at the far distance. You'll see that PAST the launch rings near the coins below the first item, there is a floating island. The second item is on it.
Figured didn't hurt to share for your benefit, if haven't spotted it already.

[simple fractal]

does horb want crit dmg affixes
2x crit dmg 4x atk?

[crude cloak]

The most common ratio I've seen is actually 4 CDM 2 ATK

[simple fractal]

wtf

[crude cloak]

In practice it depends on the run a lot apparently

• the CDM emblem may skew the ratio

[boreal eagle]

last time i had to literally reroll almost perfect atk affixes to 3 crit dmg + emblem to make the run work

so she needs a lot of crit dmg apparently

[thick aspen]

the more dkeys/ranks/etc. you have also atk gets more diluted

[spiral raven]

beta v3 was 6 lines of cd
but beta v3 peeps have max dkey so

[elfin parrot]

where's the cdmg reroll device

[lapis raven]

wheres my cutie

[elfin parrot]

are you a cutie finder https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1123046609261961366/1437705939506434149/RPReplay_Final1762761574.mov

[lapis raven]

ye cos i found u

[elfin parrot]

you're going to get me bonked for going off topic

[manic seal]

hey, i didn't play for like a month and i don't know where to look to see what the SSS versions of the bosses are in memorial arena? don't want to lock the wrong teams in when all i can see is the piddly versions

[elfin parrot]

are you asking for

• what are SSS bosses compared to SS?
• what each specific SSS bosses are like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2o_9HVVC8 i'm assuming the latter. I do have this specific video but i don't expect you to be able to copy this

Alternative strats do exist so you can show us your roster (idk MA all that well though nor is it that important)

main thing about the first boss is that it wants bleed and promotes phys vulnerability upon getting bleed stacks.

The second boss (tank) is quite old at this point and something you can more just brute against unless you're looking for a specific clear. It restores your sp during transition so an sp hungry valk can be considered here. It does also have a weakpoint for bow users or kira but it's so weak now that it's not something commonly exploited nowadays.

[manic seal]

that works, gotcha, thanks

[glacial rune]

me with my only cd roll

[elfin parrot]

(i only have atk so i guess i'm just screwed lol)

[glacial rune]

yes

no locks and no affixes so gg at least she barely has bosses in abyss

[lapis raven]

can take a look at mr bex's server too for a slightly consolidated list of refs