💁gameplay-help

[round arch]

I believe, you can save 2 points on the coralie hammer after the transition if you do like euphie's

or even 3 who knows

[mortal jetty]

What is he doing different?

[round arch]

For Coralie’s entry at the start of P2, swap her in, jump, do one attack, then use her weapon active. This skips her hammer roll.

[mortal jetty]

When i switch to hear after hofi she is already mid air

[boreal eagle]

2 evades with hofi then swap coralie and jump the 3th atk

like this shes on ground

delay a bit the joint wa or she gets hit and misses

[sacred cape]

Anything new for this week ma?

[mortal jetty]

Are S0 peeps doing this?

[round arch]

wdym by this ?

anyone who does that rot can do it

[boreal eagle]

well i mean is just faster in teory s0 or sss changes nothing

[mortal jetty]

Okayyy

[mortal jetty]

No hofi combo?

[boreal eagle]

nope only wa before the 2 evades

[mortal jetty]

Then is bad

No AR

[boreal eagle]

ye u just roll evades with that one lel

[mortal jetty]

Nah thanks

[boreal eagle]

u can also use hofi combo +ult later btw

[mortal jetty]

I didn't see any S0 doing the 1000 dodge shit

[boreal eagle]

but idk if is faster that way

[mortal jetty]

Definitely slow and I think i will lose the stacks if switch out

I will try to improve my run...

[boreal eagle]

ye do ur things gl

[mortal jetty]

I only see a +1 or +2

Or I will just sleep

Better idea

[boreal eagle]

i will just sleep

[mortal jetty]

No sleep until you get your 790

[storm ocean]

Also sorry is it SS teri?

[mortal jetty]

||SSS||

[storm ocean]

Ah no wonder

[mortal jetty]

I think you can 700 with S teri atleast

[round arch]

Not only SSS teri but hofi+2 as well

[boreal eagle]

only +5 points? i can get +11 but i dun feel like rolling evades

[mortal jetty]

Stalker

[boreal eagle]

[storm ocean]

Worth a shot
At least ik how to farm ari so ty

[mortal jetty]

No problem

[storm ocean]

Does hofi rank matter?

[mortal jetty]

No but the synergy

[round arch]

no, but synergy does a lot

[mortal jetty]

796 let's goo...top 1

[round arch]

prolly 8+ points per synergy

[storm ocean]

Oh I thought +2 is s2 not sync2

[boreal eagle]

waste of time i can't top 1 SSS do 800+ without evades not fair

[mortal jetty]

We only have one SSS

[round arch]

roccus cant beat you if u get 796 trust

[mortal jetty]

You can beat him

[round arch]

2

[mortal jetty]

Who?

[round arch]

he slacking anyways

[mortal jetty]

Yeah it doesn't count then

[boreal eagle]

nah last time with this boss i saw 800

[round arch]

roccus?

cause hes the only sss+3 AFAIK

[boreal eagle]

probably yes

[mortal jetty]

S teri> 4*kiana with vita dps?

[half hatch]

dmg wise S teri is barely an increase but the time you spend outside of SO on this boss is a bit concerning

since kia ari charging buffs ass

and less initial ARI

[round arch]

no

S teri is bad bad with vita DPS

no ROO buffs

[half hatch]

she still has some RoO buffs

[round arch]

SS better than 4 star by a lot

[round arch]

yeah a little, 4 star kiana better still

But because of inital ARI, she will still beat kia elf maybe

for redlotus, 4 star kia elf all day

[mortal jetty]

Okay i got 700 with kiana elf...
S teri should be more then

[crude cloak]

S Teri is significantly worse tho, no?

Ah, didn't see the rest of the convo

Well, S Teri doesn't have any regen

Just initial (which is just a couple pts saved in P1 from what I understand)

[crude cloak]

(which are then probably lost anyway cuz of the damage gap)

iirc the damage diff between Kia and Teri should be very noticeable

[mortal jetty]

[crude cloak]

To be completely fair idr the damage difference outside of SO

But iirc it's quite minor

[mortal jetty]

Hmm DS got 683

Does S teri have any sp regen after SO?

[half hatch]

no

[half hatch]

S teri
25% lightning dmg
Kia
4% lightning dmg
8% total dmg

[mortal jetty]

S teri stonks then?

[crude cloak]

Depends on how diluted TDM is compared to Lightning DMG

[proud shuttle]

vita weather

[mortal jetty]

25% lightning is a lot tho

[crude cloak]

True

Well, it should be pretty easy to test the damage difference for someone who has 4* Kia and S Teri

(gotta do a couple of different attacks tho)

[mortal jetty]

If i had S0 teri i could try

[half hatch]

how much is max ARI regen during transiton again

highest i got was like 56/150 ari when transition end but idk if i can do more

[lime grail]

whats hs best equip nowadays besides pericles

is it still sirinA T dirac MB

[half hatch]

yeah

[half hatch]

this is essentially what i've been doing ik i fucked up with hofi when birb comes down but if anyone has some nitpicks feel free
https://streamable.com/c9m4qc

oh still processing

embed broken

dafuq this is taking long

uhhh

embed is not updating

[elfin parrot]

i feel discord tends to save data about its embeds for specific exact links at the time they are posted

so it won't update

and you'll have to find some crafty way to post the same link but in a different text form to get discord to spawn a new embed for it

https://streamable.com/c9m4qc?

ok i don't know why it showed up like that but i added a question mark to that url lol

[half hatch]

discord things

anyway now there's at least one updated embed lol

[elfin parrot]

you can swap off cora sooner at the start. I feel you can sort of buffer it?

input/mash weapon active as coralie is swinging her non grounded leg around at the end of the animation

then either respond to the KE bar being drained or try to buffer vita's swap. idk i just kinda do it

[crude cloak]

I'd probs do Radicre's opener from last time

Ofc that's more maldy

[half hatch]

what was that uhh

[crude cloak]

React to the birb spawning -> WA + backwards evasion + WA + ult

The ult must hit at 999

[half hatch]

so birb get's debuffed

[crude cloak]

(and it must actually deal damage)

[half hatch]

makes sense will prob make my p1 faster

[half hatch]

can ult actually hit at 999 i'm at like 995 and this shit did not deal dmg

[crude cloak]

It can

[elfin parrot]

i'm not sure about the end of your p1. But if you already tested and needed all that damage then ok. (my vita is s2 so my idea of this is bloated)

i guess i don't need to comment on transition.

for start of p2, after hofi evade just hold atk
basic 2 shouldn't happen. Basic 1 will fill the meter and buffer straight into CA

[half hatch]

so it's just the right timing

[crude cloak]

Actually, Radicre has done your opener with the F2P Vita
https://youtu.be/SY3mbTKnMkU?si=Re64SCVUCxyGyNdp

Ah, right, the opener I described is for SSS (cuz you don't SO in P1 in that case)

[half hatch]

smh

gimme SSS and i'll do it

[crude cloak]

Here's proof of it hitting at 999: https://youtu.be/ALtAifOAyCo?si=jhv4pa2KAfdvuXV2

[half hatch]

this has to be a joke

this would have been 938 transition

[crude cloak]

Affixing time

[half hatch]

Already tried

Got like one 17atk line left the rest has been 22.8-23 for ages

But no locks

Cora syns would have solves this issue tbh

[crude cloak]

Damn, what are the odds

How do y'all run out of locks 😭

[crude cloak]

Ayo wtf

Ainnoway

[full trench]

by using them

i rolled a 23 on paws im waiting for locks to be able to use but tbh it might be never

[crude cloak]

And now I'm at a massive predicament

[full trench]

lmao yeah same thing happened to me

[crude cloak]

I'd need to roll at least 9.1 ATK on the first line to beat the current stats, should be fine

[full trench]

this is my situation, really cant justify taking it rn

235 locks

[elfin parrot]

i also was in the same situation with the same stig piece

i got greedy and it didn't work out lol

[half hatch]

Never really thought I'd need them and by the time I actually had nothing else to spend my asterite on some personal goals got in the way

[crude cloak]

Imejin you don't retain cuz of that

[half hatch]

Nah retain ez

My bracket doesn't look too stacked

And SS teririr

S0 is the only thing holding me back tbh

Everyone has like s2+

[formal wigeon]

that's how you run out of locks

[surreal stream]

What affixes do I aim for for paws

[narrow cedar]

805 and 745, the rank diff was 18s diff in kill time that's actually so long

fight is 30.7% longer

195 vs 255 pts

[half hatch]

Bio/crossbow atk but don't over invest too much into it

[crude cloak]

I still have 6k+ of them

[half hatch]

Affixes aren't really that important until you reach higher abyss ranks but 1 decent line is a good base for now

[half hatch]

WHAT

😭

I have 5

[formal wigeon]

now repeat that on every stig

and don't get lucky

[dusty dagger]

How the fuck

[half hatch]

Teammate plz fund me

With locks

[narrow cedar]

6000 locks is someone who doesn't affix for 2 attack at a time every abyss sliver lmao

[crude cloak]

I just run out of NCCs xdd

Probs cuz I'm dumping Asterite on valk frags for collection purposes

And ofc I just ain't good enough for the +2 ATK

[narrow cedar]

oh ok running out of NCC is legit too

asterite is actually boomer advantage

[misty pike]

I thought teammate was boomer enuf to be rich in aster now

[crude cloak]

If I were not to do this I would be

[narrow cedar]

i had 2 million and i just dumped it all to 6* core all my augment valks last month, i think i spent 600k

never felt so wealthy before

throw money away

[misty pike]

2 mil crazy

[digital sky]

W

[narrow cedar]

my TP and FT are only 5* tho, cause they aren't SSS

[dusty dagger]

I used to run out of ncc

And then they added so many sources that now it's difficult to run out

[dusty dagger]

Gecko why owl pfp

[misty pike]

I was doing a joint pfp thing w another friend

[narrow cedar]

ncc economy is much better now, there's the discount buy each ver, also longer patch = slower valk release = less affixes per year, we get more mats in BP, we also seem to get more 23/23s

i used to use the 15~20 kits on each valk until i run into big troubles, but now i affix lock each release and affix like a whale

[dusty dagger]

I feel like even if we get more 23/23s the average player will still hoard them

[misty pike]

I affix like a whel

[narrow cedar]

i think we get maybe 3 23/23 a year, so i just save it for my favourite char each year

[crude cloak]

Whels don't affix

[dusty dagger]

"I... whel"
-gecko 2025

[crude cloak]

Like the 8.4 one amirite

[misty pike]

[narrow cedar]

hellllllllllll no

[dusty dagger]

[narrow cedar]

i think it'll be leylah or sena next for 23x6

[dusty dagger]

8.5 peak design trust

[misty pike]

what ver are we on again

[crude cloak]

8.3

[misty pike]

o

[narrow cedar]

i have a leak, the 8.5 valk will be female

[dusty dagger]

Ngl I don't think 8.4 is as bad as everyone is saying it is

[narrow cedar]

100%

[dusty dagger]

Holy shit

Mots

[misty pike]

if 8.5 is male I won’t quit

[crude cloak]

[dusty dagger]

Get this guy

[narrow cedar]

is 8.5 CN anni btw

[crude cloak]

Should be, yes

[half hatch]

Should be

[narrow cedar]

ok so we are all dead

[crude cloak]

8.4 is not anni, and 8.6 is too late

[dusty dagger]

If 8.6 is 11 weeks I'll crash out

[crude cloak]

We alr know it is

[misty pike]

The patches just get longer and longer

[dusty dagger]

Dead why

[misty pike]

1 year patch when

[half hatch]

BP timer

Funny thing actually

Can calculate like 2 patches in advance

[narrow cedar]

8.4 mini spending
8.5 anni spending
8.6 cny spending

[formal wigeon]

she's fine aside from being literally naked

[narrow cedar]

rest in $$

[dusty dagger]

8.6 is cny already? Wtf

Wait

[crude cloak]

Nah, there should be a gap

[narrow cedar]

i actulaly don't think it is unless they pull 12+ week patches

should be 8.7

[dusty dagger]

Swear to god if there's a 12 week patch

[misty pike]

I’m a hater😔

[formal wigeon]

good ol' 4 patches year cycle

[narrow cedar]

this is the worst time of the year for hi3 every year, CN anni and lunar new year are too close

[half hatch]

Don't jinx it

[misty pike]

just be filthy rich and whel then it doesn’t matter

[formal wigeon]

inb4 CNY patch is 14

[narrow cedar]

how long was kiana's patch

[dusty dagger]

Surely there's no 4 in patch length bc 4 for cny is bad

[formal wigeon]

make it 15 then

[dusty dagger]

[narrow cedar]

feb 20 to apr 24

[half hatch]

Inb4 patches get longer with every CNY

[finite barn]

im actually very worried about the mini spending into major spending q.q

[misty pike]

what’s the diff again

[narrow cedar]

ok last CNY was 63 days

[finite barn]

im gonna be on weapon skip grind again

[narrow cedar]

63 DAYS of battling 5 AI bots

[dusty dagger]

Dude I don't make enough in xtal income for ts 🥀

[finite barn]

between what? mini spending and major spending? or something else

[misty pike]

U can have my account then

For legal reasons this is a joke

[dusty dagger]

One is a mini scam and the other is a big scam

[misty pike]

yeah between mini and normal

[finite barn]

mini doesnt have fun stuff like elf box and valk card

[narrow cedar]

mini scam and big scam is pretty accurate

[finite barn]

it just has outfit

[formal wigeon]

one makes you think it's bad, the other makes you think it's good

[dusty dagger]

Mini isn't bad bc it has dkey and I need atk actually pls John hoyoverse give me atk

[finite barn]

and you have to actually use your mini spending event currency to buy the outfit unlike major spending where they just give u the outfit when you hit the threshold

[formal wigeon]

it has a dkey box instead, which is 10 times better for most people

[narrow cedar]

this might be anectodal but it was better before cause stuff lived longer. if you get a valk card on big spending you still get great value even though you're late to the party

now all the stuff is like dead already, discounts on garbage

[finite barn]

... right a lot of people dont have all dkey

i. may be too boomer oh god

[misty pike]

Dkey next patch is bad bc that requires pulling💔

[dusty dagger]

There's also the new synergy card thing

[narrow cedar]

one spending event gave us Nyx, that was great value i'm sure

[dusty dagger]

Free thel syn 2

[formal wigeon]

free bench

[dusty dagger]

Without gear?

[formal wigeon]

stonks

[finite barn]

the spending event i started on gave vke who was pretty dead already

[misty pike]

Where’s my free apoopoo

[dusty dagger]

Where's my free gecko

[formal wigeon]

her weapon has stayed gacha only ever since

[dusty dagger]

[finite barn]

wait was nyx gear never in bp?

[misty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/gekko-gif-27330220

[formal wigeon]

yup, Nyx and her gear never appeared

[dusty dagger]

Is that what you look like irl

[misty pike]

yep

[finite barn]

lol rip

[misty pike]

irl footage

[finite barn]

nyx truly was the worst value valk....

[crude cloak]

I assume nudes are bannable here, delete that smh

[misty pike]

[narrow cedar]

she got mistreated so bad. i'm still waiting for part 2 veliona to set things right

[crude cloak]

So true

[narrow cedar]

part 2 veliona release + dkey for hrb

[digital sky]

No... her gear was in bp... like 6.0<->6.9 ish

[narrow cedar]

put them on the same team

[misty pike]

I didn’t know dari was a veli fan

[crude cloak]

Is Nyx the only one out of the main cast that didn't get an upgrade in lore
||Apart from separating from Seele ofc||

[finite barn]

all seeles are good seeles

[narrow cedar]

i'm not really a veli fan but i want justice for every mistreated hi3 char cause they are all great

[dusty dagger]

LOL

[formal wigeon]

oh right they did put the gear in a lot later

[digital sky]

Im like 90% sure i think

[misty pike]

inclusive king

[narrow cedar]

except for vill-v i think she can stay in the dumpster, good lord
i want justice for aponia though

[dusty dagger]

What were her stigs called again

Verne

[digital sky]

Verne

[crude cloak]

Verne

[digital sky]

Jinx

[dusty dagger]

No

[finite barn]

the spending that gave hofi was pretty cool tho

[digital sky]

Shush

[misty pike]

I have all the apoopoo outfits but no apoopoo😔

[crude cloak]

Oh, absolutely

[finite barn]

usually the valk card is pretty useless but that one was vvv good

[crude cloak]

Probs the best patch ever to join the game

[dusty dagger]

Wow v2v hater

[narrow cedar]

hofi spending was kinda cursed, for new players you HAD TO GET HER or Vita has no team

[dusty dagger]

Yeah lol

[finite barn]

sure but you can still kinda brute force stuff with vita team

[narrow cedar]

so if you started on v7.8 that was CURSED

[crude cloak]

Yeah, but on the other hand you got a 12/12 team (which is a very solid bruteforcer too) right from the get go

[narrow cedar]

cursed until next patch, now you can vita cora cora

[digital sky]

Aponias gear was in bp i think

[dusty dagger]

That's not going to happen without hofi lol

[finite barn]

^ this exactly

[finite barn]

i mean yeah we're talking about getting hofi that patch with hofi on spending

[dusty dagger]

Like

[digital sky]

||Wait what u cant? D:||

[narrow cedar]

HFi-less Vita for almost a year, if that is any player in here you suffered long enough

[dusty dagger]

You get maybe 4 weeks

To get 40+k

[formal wigeon]

but wasn't the spend event on 7.8 ?

[crude cloak]

It was

[narrow cedar]

yeah it was

[formal wigeon]

yeah so all good

[dusty dagger]

And spend everything for hofi

[crude cloak]

Darius is probs just underestimating beginner income

[formal wigeon]

unless you started towards the end

[dusty dagger]

And also pray you get vita, weapon and dkey

[narrow cedar]

can beginner get HoFi that quickly?

[crude cloak]

Yes

[finite barn]

wasnt spending 6 weeks in 7.8?

[narrow cedar]

it was 42000 xtals right for HoFi

[digital sky]

Wasnt hofis weapon also extremly short like 2 weeks

[misty pike]

Beginner income so good but such a grind

[dusty dagger]

Yes

[crude cloak]

Around that iirc, ye

[formal wigeon]

the issue was people getting too lucky on pulls and having to randomly dump stuff to reach the valk card

[finite barn]

yeh hofi weapon banner was short that was the big thing

[crude cloak]

If you started at the very beginning of 7.8, W
If like 1.5 weeks in or later, cooked

(cooked relatively speaking ofc, picking up Vita by herself was alr very good long-term)

[finite barn]

ig if you started middle of that patch it was bad but if you started right at the beginning or in end of 7.7, it was great

[crude cloak]

The second best patch should be 7.3 for similar reasons

Except you didn't need to dump pulls just to get a valk

[crude cloak]

Well, pulling-wise ofc, P2 release was a mess in other regards

[narrow cedar]

yeah 7.3 was really good, 7.8 i was skeptical about but TIL

[crude cloak]

Out of touch fossil/whel fr

[narrow cedar]

i'm always out of touch

my account is almost 1700 days old

[misty pike]

oldge

[finite barn]

i wonder who will be spending event card this coming big spending...

praying for thelema because i still dont have her...

[crude cloak]

Well, considering that ||they added Bleed buffs to RoO valks|| I'm very concerned

[narrow cedar]

FV is 8.4 BP so...

it's gonna be Thel Lantern probably, one in BP the other in spending

[crude cloak]

Too early for either of them imo

[narrow cedar]

then they gotta go backwards

Sena and LV AGAIN?

[finite barn]

i mean i thought it was too early for hofi in 7.8 but they did it anyways

[crude cloak]

For the spending event I mean, BP is fair

[crude cloak]

ig that's fair actually

[narrow cedar]

i would also like thel though you have no idea how much i want to move on from S0+1 Thelema

all my friends are S2 now cause they won at least 1 of the 2 carnivals

oh speaking of which, spending event we probably get carnival banner again

[crude cloak]

Should've just embraced the whel inside

[narrow cedar]

can i please win something for once

[crude cloak]

Well, Thele defo won't be there

[finite barn]

oh last spending was hrb thats right

[crude cloak]

Ye

[narrow cedar]

i didn't even win the 23/23 from the lotto, i got 100 crystals

[crude cloak]

I think I didn't even get that

Ah, right, I tried to get Knight

[finite barn]

oof yeah than fov is actually quite likely... or possibly even sena

[crude cloak]

Anyway, Carnival should have Vita, Sparkle and 2 more valks

RS and Badum ig?

[narrow cedar]

oh wow today's abyss stage 2 makes me feel old lmao

i need to go old school on this

[crude cloak]

Record a BKE ref on it

[narrow cedar]

yeah BKE or HFS maybe

[crude cloak]

Keep in mind you can't replay completed stages

[narrow cedar]

i hope this tank kills every single new player and makes them restart stage at least once

with the 1HKO laser

[crude cloak]

New players won't be able to clear the stage at all

My Vita DPS took like 3+ mins on the second one

[narrow cedar]

KO by tank is a rite of passage for superstring dimension

[crude cloak]

In Nirv tbf

[finite barn]

wait tunnel tank?

[narrow cedar]

yeah it's tunnel tank

[crude cloak]

My Coralie actually tanked like 4 hits of it

[finite barn]

god i hate tunnel tank

[crude cloak]

Their only option is copium Sushang, which is ofc -50% cuz TC + weather

[night parcel]

Captain. Any claims about leaks, including jokes/fake are not allowed. If AI chan see this again, it is snap snap time

[crude cloak]

Dumb rule imo, but fair enough ig

[formal wigeon]

and only SS FT/TP

[crude cloak]

(I wonder which mod this is tho)

[formal wigeon]

smh my head

[finite barn]

what jokes about leaks arent allowed??? im in shambles

[neon narwhal]

if it helps my skill issued ah got vita 1/3 hp to the tank
fun stage though

[crude cloak]

In the future they'll ban EoS jokes

[narrow cedar]

yeah i SS FT cause i joined late i thought i'd wait for a psy savior, and that was HFS

SS TP was decided cause i knew on day 1 i was backpulling BKE

instead she was a spending event valk in 5.2 so man that was my birthday

eos jokes should be banned they kill the vibe

[misty pike]

crazy

[narrow cedar]

hi3 is forever

[formal wigeon]

Lyo stop hiding behind Ai-chan

[finite barn]

i found out the other day that ggz is older than fgo which is kinda wild to me, may hi3 also continue forever...

[crude cloak]

Lyo's Bri'ish is not that bad

[finite barn]

haha youre older than me i can stop feeling like a boomer now :D

(this is super delayed because my game took FOREVER to verify files)

[narrow cedar]

lyo has sega tag and furo has prts tag... traitor mods

it should be hi3 and hoyo tags smh

[crude cloak]

Real

[formal wigeon]

meanwhile the discord tag on the official Neural Cloud server is EOS

[crude cloak]

LMFAO

[narrow cedar]

LMFAO really

[crude cloak]

Someone pls gift me Nitro, I'm joining that server

[formal wigeon]

yeah FGO is not that old, it just looks old (and already did look old when it released tbh)

[crude cloak]

(don't actually, I won't be able to redeem it xdd)

[finite barn]

why do you need nitro for that

[half hatch]

You don't need nitro for tags afaik

[crude cloak]

[finite barn]

lmao

[half hatch]

I have my hi3 tag in other servers as well

[formal wigeon]

the server needs to have boosts but anybody can use them

[night parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-pikachu-pikachu-skill-issue-gif-3559280283046901335

[crude cloak]

Thx for letting me know 🔥

[half hatch]

Cabbage

[finite barn]

mods are trolling us via ai-chan...

[half hatch]

Wdym this is ai chan

[formal wigeon]

can I request a sonic version

[finite barn]

ai-chan is too nice to disparage us like that

[half hatch]

Nice where she ate all my crystals

[finite barn]

she's can be polite and a capitalist at the same time

[night parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-fighters-sonic-championship-sonic-the-hedgehog-amy-rose-amy's-hammer-gif-4059459029290860347

[crude cloak]

Okay, is there a server with "EoS" specifically now

[misty pike]

Bruh

[half hatch]

[formal wigeon]

The sonic took a while, might not be Lyo

[narrow cedar]

if it is Lyo i have the most offtopic video for you, timestamped

[dusty dagger]

I didn't 😔

[narrow cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YheTUufTmS4&t=403s

[formal wigeon]

hell yeah

[dusty dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423401527550541825/1391476152601808896/Screenshot_20241116_181610_Gallery-1.jpg?ex=686cb167&is=686b5fe7&hm=e30e246b7fe094119d196605cfdd637c7fcd9ca6f16972be1d591ef460a813cc&

[formal wigeon]

ok so why does searching "meow" from Lyo give 21 results

[crude cloak]

That looks hella familiar

[vernal terrace]

Lol EoS discord tag

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/0TU5Q2uID1k?si=EhLnowEVDuTIC2VA https://youtu.be/bhSJt0AxpX0
Idk whether to use Kiana ELF or Teri for this abyss, so I made two refs to compare the damage and SO regen. I feel like Kiana is better but what do you think?

[sacred cape]

This with poverty Teri or what

[pale musk]

Check description

S and 4 star

[eager smelt]

both of those runs are so scuffed

[vernal terrace]

SS Teri is better for RoO

[eager smelt]

u should look at a proper ref first

[pale musk]

Is this a proper ref? https://youtu.be/knD4cguuSa0?si=9orxBgW3gS4dxncC

[eager smelt]

yes

but a 3s teri run wont help u

[pale musk]

In the past, most runs I try to find have way too many ranks to help me, so I thought this would be good enough

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1o3TeztEQj/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click Would an 2s teri run help me? I don't have a lot of options.

[pale musk]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qajszxE3g/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click
Would this work? If not? Could I please have some help finding a run where at least Vita and Teri are S0 or somethng that'll be close to that?

[pale musk]

Do I need to look at a proper ref to decide if Teri/kiana or do I need a ref to do better in general because I'm not having luck with the former.

[eager smelt]

nah kiana should be way better

[pale musk]

ok

I'm not able to find a ref with kiana and if someone else can then they're better than me. I think it's more worth my time if I just guess and then get criticism later.

[lyric blaze]

what’s the best team for lantern ma?

[mortal jetty]

Check the MA leaderboard and you will see

It can also depend on rank

Full S0 team can 47888 ( ps,fws, sparkle or jds)

[buoyant condor]

Ts game is too hard

[steady osprey]

how about paws team

[edgy hamlet]

I don't get it. Did you not even try?

[buoyant condor]

Idk

[buoyant condor]

You’re over 1000 days Nirv now right?

[edgy hamlet]

No I started when P2 dropped so I think a bit over an year ago?

[buoyant condor]

Oh

[mortal jetty]

I saw a ps team with paws but i am not sure if it was full S0 team

47888

[edgy hamlet]

But I am nirv currently

[buoyant condor]

Ik that’s why I asked

[edgy hamlet]

Oh I see

[silver bronze]

No meta team/ character list video in yt?
The recent one i found was 3 months ago
Others are 8 months or years old?

[buoyant condor]

u should do my abyss also since im ded

[buoyant condor]

Every character 1-2 years ago are still meta

There’s no tier list or anything cuz they all have their own boss

[silver bronze]

Ooh

Still any meta team you would recommend?

[crude cloak]

If you're asking what to pull the answer is this: it's recommended to pull only the brand new valks and weaps and only if you can actually afford them

It's a good idea to have at least 30k crystals before considering pulling someone

[edgy hamlet]

Just out of motivation?

[buoyant condor]

Yeah been ded since p2 lol

I came back on sparkle for a few months

[edgy hamlet]

Ah fair enough. These patches seem to be much longer so the game can feel dead sometimes (that's why I have several other gacha to feed my addiction on the side)

[buoyant condor]

Buggin I can barely keep with star rail and hi3

[edgy hamlet]

Once you're caught up it's just account maintenance

[stiff wigeon]

I dont have Hofi , thelema , senadina , lantern im cooked for this abyss

Finna drop down redlotus or does someone have an alternative? I also dont have Badum

[crude cloak]

Do you mean "drop down from RL"? Cuz if you're in Nirv rn you might as well not bother

Assuming you're in RL rn you can use Sirin DPS if you have that (Sirin HoTr CN/Sparkle), otherwise your only options are Vita VBs Coralie and SImp VBs/Sparkle Vita

[crude cloak]

Oh, actually, RS DPS could work too, but I'm not sure what the best support lineup would be in your case

[crude cloak]

Here's a Sirin ref:
https://youtu.be/YkbJ6FbPiTo?si=O09F1_qvVfxJl2dJ

You'll probably be dealing less damage than them, keep that in mind

If I had to guess it would be smth like this in your case:
Sirin > SImp > RS > Vita

[wooden mantle]

Hey guys, should I try to pull on one of these banners if I already got the new Helia and his weapon?

[half hatch]

No

Stay away from starter banner

Just save for 8.4

[wooden mantle]

Should I just save?

[wooden mantle]

Ok got it ahaha ty

[edgy hamlet]

wait im in your bracket 💀

[undone geyser]

i feel like i shouldve asked here instead but does anyone have a good ref vid for Paws LP HoHe

[half hatch]

You wont really find any because Vita does not regen SP for paws during so

Meaning you can't do 6 ults in SO with paws

[undone geyser]

should i be using coralie then?

[half hatch]

She won't regen SP either and vita provides better buffs

[crude cloak]

No, she's worse and has the same issue
You want to use valks with the Symbiosis tag

[undone geyser]

i dont really got badum, bleed sushang or kid dudu so (sorry i have to catch up on glossary)

[crude cloak]

Well, just gotta accept the crippled rot then

[half hatch]

That's fine all of the above or understandable then you just have to cope with that team for and wait until a new valk with the symbioses tags comes out that you can afford

[undone geyser]

if it can clear and give max crystals its fine

[half hatch]

Well Max crystals would be t50 myriad and that is a rather unrealistic goal

[undone geyser]

nah redlotus wise i mean

[half hatch]

Endgame content works different here since this is a competitive game

[undone geyser]

max of the min

[undone geyser]

i mean i understand that i reached nirv before (never breaking that ceiling again.)

biggest mistake off my hi3 career but i had to reach it atleast once

[half hatch]

Can it clear ? Yes. Will you retain ? Idk tbh didn't test that team myself yet but RL requirements are rather low especially if you know what you're doing

[undone geyser]

thats good thats rlly all im satisfied with

[half hatch]

It's essential just +20 crystals to reach nirvana compared to RL so why a mistake

[undone geyser]

RL is good enough to give me the pretty chars

[half hatch]

Or do you mean the mechanic breakthrough with breaking through the ceiling

Like going beyond level 80

[undone geyser]

now to anger you all with how far my copium goes in 2025 without hotr

[half hatch]

Wtf mz brain is fried

[undone geyser]

good

(as long as it clears were fine)

[half hatch]

Nah sry that wasn't related to your team como I just couldn't write a proper text in English

[undone geyser]

ive been through worse 😢 before handel tbandt ppm newt b was the way

oh

[half hatch]

I mean it's pretty cope paws/vita/hohe ist probably better

[undone geyser]

my bad i was js defending myself incase i make myself look stupid

(i remember ppl used to bully bacon on here for bad investment choices)

but that was in beginner help where i also lurked

[half hatch]

Idk how the help channels were in the past but I've heard they've gotten a lot more chill now

We also give off meta advice if asked

[undone geyser]

yeah, i think the rules got changed and so the people who were unnecessarily rude probably had to stop

this chats got so much history

(sorry for the off topic mods pls dont ban me)

though does GD still carry p1 lightning teams? or completely replaced now

[edgy hamlet]

what even is this bug lmfao

[formal wigeon]

hasn't changed much in the past 3-4 years aside from having less and less people

[mortal jetty]

She can still be useful in p1 team

[mortal jetty]

Were the peeps so rude back then in this channel?

[lyric cipher]

how does midnight absinthe work? im using her with sparkle.

[mortal jetty]

Who is midnight absinthe?

[steady osprey]

raven

there are tutorial stages

[steady osprey]

but in short u do spam hold atk (pentagon arrow)> spam atk x5 (triple shot) > hold atk (recall feather for sp) until enough sp then ult and shoot arrow (weapon active)

and switch to dps

outdated valk not recommended anymore u better use Chrono Navi

[mortal jetty]

[edgy hamlet]

Does anyone know when I can buy Star of Eden: Anti Entropy and Infinite Intimidator from BP shop?

[half hatch]

when hoyo decides to add them

there's no clear pattern with dkeys

[stone stump]

is Vita's outfit worth it ?

[half hatch]

that's up to you to decide

competetive wise it has no benefit

[edgy hamlet]

Ah ok I thought maybe it was based on time of release or something

[half hatch]

then we would have xy

[stone stump]

sad but her skills with those effects kina cool

[formal wigeon]

they do them kinda in order most likely, but they could wait a year before the next one for all we know

[edgy hamlet]

Oh.

Glad I claimed it from the box then

[edgy hamlet]

I really hope it's not that long

[formal wigeon]

Next patch gets 7t in bp and spend event has both of those too

[half hatch]

|| 7t is already being added in there next version so they kinda fallow the release dates but they can just pull a xy again and leave out brick for the next 2 years ||

hoyo just does what they want

[edgy hamlet]

Hoyo doing hoyo things... I just need the Brick and Star of Eden then I have everything except stellar syncs

[half hatch]

welcome to the team i need xy and 🧱

[formal wigeon]

well you can get one of those soon at least

[edgy hamlet]

[half hatch]

~~ if i can afford 8.4 kek ~~

[edgy hamlet]

my damage is bricked without the brick

[lyric cipher]

could this team work(i dont have any other elfs), and if it could could anyone tell me the rotation in a very simple language. talk to me like im a 2nd grader please.

[rigid cedar]

Herrscher of Truth wouldn't work that well in this team for one simple reason: her buffs are mostly fire and lightning damage focused

elysia and pardofelis are both ice type

[lyric cipher]

o. so uhm. i wasted all those coins and uhm lvl material for nothing. ugh. haxxor bunny would be better?

[rigid cedar]

not at all

you still have truth for any copium fire and lightning teams

[lyric cipher]

would haxxor bunny work better in this team

[rigid cedar]

haxxor can work but isnt the best, Coralie would probably be your best support

[lyric cipher]

who?

[rigid cedar]

Valkyrie Blastmetal

[lyric cipher]

dont think i have her sadly. im a pseudo begginer you see.

[cunning gull]

are you a recent player? can you get jade knight? she can work in that team
although don't spend too much mats on leveling this team because you'll ditch it later (assuming that you don't have the full sig set for each of these characters)

[rigid cedar]

Gray haired bronya sized girl with dog ears and tail

[cunning gull]

she's free in part 2 and is in the asterite shop

[lyric cipher]

im lv 79 but i took a rlly long break so ive forgotten basically everything

[cunning gull]

hmm may i ask if you're attached to that old account? if you want a fresh start or wanna pursue meta a new account will help you a lot
up to u tho

[lyric cipher]

well uhh idk how to do that. i dont wanna start the story from the start again. and i have sparkle on this account

with sig stigmata and sig weapon

[rigid cedar]

ah you came from hsr?

[lyric cipher]

i came from everywhere ive played all the hoyo games at one point(except the ones b4 hi3rd)

[rigid cedar]

just like me then

its just that hsr was my last really active game before I came here

[cunning gull]

you can take a screenshot of your character list and weapon and stigmata list, since you don't wanna start fresh lets see if there's anything that can be made to help you for now

just know that sparkle is still available in the game, she's not like asuka, she still reruns

[rigid cedar]

sparkle valk and signature isnt bad even for today tbh

[lyric cipher]

nah. im gonna figure this out with my sensei. ty for the advice tho ill try to get the metalgear(? i think) valk

[cunning gull]

Valkyrie blastmetal? that's coralie that ram mentioned

[lyric cipher]

yes

[cunning gull]

alright have fun!

[rigid cedar]

she can directly support sparkle too

good luck to you either way

[lyric cipher]

yanno what fine

whats my best team

[formal wigeon]

even Tears of Themis ?

[lyric cipher]

oh right forgot that it exists, no

[cunning gull]

sparkle, a rank helia, and get coralie from part 2

[lyric cipher]

are there any other team options

[cunning gull]

#👶beginner-help message

first link

jade knight is in war treasury
you'll need to unlock the other a ranks and the s ranks in war treasury (there's a pin about it in #👶beginner-help btw) for other stuff but they can temporarily help as well if you need it

[rigid cedar]

also no need to be afraid of any spoilers if you jump into part 2. you unlock her very early through progression

[cunning gull]

your main investment will be on sparkle and some on coralie and helia and other than that you wanna save resources and crystals for future valks when you have enough to get them with gear

yeah

[rigid cedar]

and the first 3 chapters of part 2 have no connection to part 1 at all

it can be treated as it's own story

[magic crater]

How do I get more divine keys again? Only have Abyss Flower for some reason with the others missing

[cunning gull]

did you get the realm of battles ones?

[magic crater]

Not sure

[cunning gull]

there's judan in exchange shop (farm by converting g1 wps), there's PoS in foundry
there's utu, twins of eden and FD in reserve shop in bp ||and 7 thunders will be added next patch||
||there'll be a dkey box in the next patch if you're pulling next patch and get enough currency for the summer spending event, more info in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins||
there's abyss in foundry

forgot the name of the foundry pinions but there's one that is a dkey, will need FD or brick at least to syn for 10 atk

[cunning gull]

for abyss u need it to syn with abyss flower for 10 atk

[magic crater]

I see. What weapons can I convert into Senti brick besides Abyss Flower then?

Saw that as an option in foundry

[half hatch]

Senti's brick ? that's unobtainable atm

are you sure you're not confusing the weapon with something else

[magic crater]

Says I can turn Abyss Flower into it from foundry

Or I'm misunderstanding cause it says tune abyss flower

[half hatch]

you're missunderstanding it, for the game the normal divine key and the tuned version is something different so they tell you the dkeys are obtainable through divine key tuning but that's just where you tune them

[magic crater]

Ah.

[willow wedge]

For armada rewards in commissions, I just select the dorm supply cards and that's it right?

[neon narwhal]

adding something like phase shifters/purple exp mats is also valid if you need em
cause dorm (and everything really) is rng

[dusty dagger]

Me personally I don't do commissions

They should like add a "submit all" button

[willow wedge]

Alright, thanks that's what I wanted to know

[digital sky]

Submit all?

Like turn in all commissions-in that chain at once?

[crude cloak]

But Dorm tix

[dusty dagger]

I've got like 35 rn

[misty pike]

So true

[warm lantern]

who should be lead in team helia/badum/sushang for this abyss?

[half hatch]

Probably paws since lightning shield

Sir this boss is bio

[crude cloak]

Yeah, I need to go to bed

[half hatch]

[neon narwhal]

[crude cloak]

Anyway, ye, defo Helia then
It's probs Helia > Badum > Sushang

Afaik Sushang's raw damage is quite low

[vernal terrace]

[crude cloak]

Hear me out, Helia DPS with RS for shieldbreak

[half hatch]

I mean it's reasonable

Though I doubt they have rs

[crude cloak]

I assume you just lose too much damage that way

Still worth trying ofc

[warm lantern]

600, bye bye RL, see you next time

[crude cloak]

You can always record a run if you wanna

And I assume the AO you're using is DS?

[warm lantern]

elf 3*

my DS is S

I do my AO after phase transition anyway, so shouldn't matter much

[crude cloak]

Kia should be better here anyway

[half hatch]

Now I wanna try paws and see how bad it is in nirvana

But bed comfy

[crude cloak]

Probs like -200 pts compared to RL

And RL is 670 at least (with RS btw)

[half hatch]

💀

[half hatch]

wtf 506

with DS

[crude cloak]

Dayum, not bad

[half hatch]

i can farm more ari with fws for more score

[crude cloak]

Wait, which team comp was that

[half hatch]

since she got +2 ari

paws/ps/fws

[crude cloak]

She does?

[crude cloak]

Gotta try RS now

[half hatch]

she has this and base regen is 1

so 1 + 1

[half hatch]

guess what

[crude cloak]

Great movie

No RS?

[half hatch]

yuh

wtf 525

why is this fun

[steady osprey]

because f u is part of the fun

jk tho

[wide zephyr]

Does the battle pass reserve have HoT's weapon anywhere (Seven Thunders I think?)? I can't find it

[half hatch]

nope

|| it will be added next version ||

[wide zephyr]

Thank youuu

I guess I should just save my BP exchange materials for now

[willow wedge]

How does one collapse tonatiuh shield with nyx?

[half hatch]

i'm not too familiar with nyx but i had a quick glance at her kit and it seems like she does not have built in quantum collapse so you'd have to break it by evading the purple blue attacks

i recommend checking out the quantum tutorial in game

it explains it pretty good actually

[crude cloak]

Cast ult

[half hatch]

wait did i miss smth

lemme re read

[quasi pier]

it's ult

it's usually just ult

[willow wedge]

Thanks, both of you gave me what I wanted! I didn't know about evasion being a strat lol

[crude cloak]

Also these attacks aren't purple

[half hatch]

calling myself a nerd but can't even read smh

[crude cloak]

They're blue

[half hatch]

okay i should sleep

[crude cloak]

Purple are the regular ones

[quasi pier]

they also make a different noise when they're about to do the attack

[willow wedge]

Oh?👀

Will add that to my notes, damn

[crude cloak]

Just play the tutorial, you'll figure it out

One thing that it doesn't mention iirc is that only basics and CAs count as counterattacks

[crude cloak]

Actually, ults count too

[willow wedge]

I'll stick to basics and CA's then keep the ult for the dmg once it's collapsed, ulting just to remove a shield seems like a waste? But I'm not good at this game so maybe it's correct lol

[crude cloak]

Nyx's ult makes her enter Burst mode (different attacks essentially), so you won't be missing out on much DMG

The opposite is true, you'll save more time that way, you'll need to wait for 1 less attack (iirc Tona has 2 or 3 stacks of the shield)

If it was a regular ult (like Sena's, for example) your logic would be correct

[willow wedge]

OK makes sense

[crude cloak]

I'm not sure about this part to be completely fair, it has been a while

[willow wedge]

I mean, worst case I just continue evading

[dusky mantle]

How many flrs are there in the pvz event

20?

[high herald]

I'm getting a 753 on current RL with SSS teri so I'm feeling like I'm doing smth v wrong. (I can do S songque here if that'll make a big dif?) Coralie is SSS and max synergy but no ranks on Vita or HoFi.

[lapis raven]

800 minimum

its a one SO run dont go doing two

[high herald]

Haven't been, but tbh I haven't used Vita main dps in a while so I'm probably forgetting how to rotate her against this boss.

[vernal bronze]

Anyone know any non vita dos strats for the boss? I don’t have hofin dkey so I can’t use her

[spiral raven]

just use thel

[vernal bronze]

Isn’t the boss ice resistant

[spiral raven]

type counter big

[vernal bronze]

Ok I’ll try

[lone stump]

what is worth getting in war treasury? stygian?

[plucky lotus]

Nothing is worth. You can rank some up if you do dorm errands.

[dusky mantle]

Dang. Who boss?

[lapis raven]

bird

[dusky mantle]

Ah sprout?

[steady osprey]

WT valks are mainly for ER growth xtal now

WT pins in beginner help

[crude cloak]

Btw, I realized I fucked up a bit, after Sirin it should be PAWS DPS in your case (PAWS PS RS)

[dusky mantle]

Is 783 good enough lol

[rigid cedar]

i assume for retain yes

without knowing what ranks or aop you have

[dusky mantle]

Rl

I mean hiue le is 785 lel

[rigid cedar]

oh in that case thats a bit of a slacker score

nvm you're sea

EU rl can 800

[dusky mantle]

Speak in a disgusted tone pls

[rigid cedar]

why

[dusky mantle]

Idk

The real question is, do i want to promote to resonance nirb

[rigid cedar]

if you have Sena, yes

otherwise no

[dusky mantle]

S0 th0

[rigid cedar]

hmm

[half hatch]

Better than no sena but BP peps will crush you

It's changed gaymax anyway they moved critical value

[dusky mantle]

Whats the sena team

Sena vita jds? No borkle

[rigid cedar]

Sena Vita badum

[dusky mantle]

Oh wait

Fws exist

[rigid cedar]

badum has a big resonance buff

[half hatch]

Jds no resonance lah

[dusky mantle]

Yoyo mecha bonk then

Hmmm

S2 just gives link anyways

Yeah ill shoot for +100

[rigid cedar]

youre good with aop, songque and kiaelf are both present in last cycle

[half hatch]

It's prob SSS sonkek or sonkek is fraud

Like every reso cycle lol

At least compared to 4* kia

[edgy hamlet]

Does anyone know the order of jumps/dodges on this part of transition to farm ARI*?

[sullen linden]

evade evade jump jump

last jump is with coralie

[edgy hamlet]

I was using this ref and I think they just jump+evade twice in a row? I cant seem to replicate it lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knD4cguuSa0

[sullen linden]

@rare iris

[sacred cape]

@sullen linden

[edgy hamlet]

[dusty dagger]

Kyo too lao

[edgy hamlet]

like how is bro standing in the same spot evading like that 😭

[formal wigeon]

you can't go forwards further than that

so if you dodge forward you don't move

[edgy hamlet]

it was that simple?

[formal wigeon]

you can see the joystick forward too

[edgy hamlet]

I still gotta work on my evades tho. I can only do two whereas they do 3 evades per missile

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/o98uCYmwxQU?si=5q38X7p1-MmoLVQp How can I make this run better? read description for ranks

[eager smelt]

[pale musk]

FYI I couldn’t find a ref on bili. 2 pages of refs and the only ones using Kiana were Dominator of Wolves stages.

[pale musk]

Idk the full implication of sending this image

[eager smelt]

use ur wa

theres kiana refs for the first time this boss ran

[graceful monolith]

does any1 have a ref for this team maybe..? i dont wanna take the L with -100 but my whole bracket has vita T_T

[mortal jetty]

Try thelema

Paws dps is 660

Really low

[eager smelt]

they dont have

[graceful monolith]

yeah i only have hofi and sss coralie

[pale musk]

I used it at 1:03 and 1:40, when else do I use it?

[eager smelt]

0:19

[pale musk]

Does it have to make contact with the boss or do I just tap it after the ult is done? What’s it for? If it’s just for Vita QTE, wouldn’t that be a bit superfluous?

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/Ns-mlnp_ioM this is still a good ref, right?

[eager smelt]

wow my dark history

yeah the run is fine ur just gonna heavy outdmg it

i only had 3* kiana back then and few dkeys

[pale musk]

I checked Hieu and Kyo first but they both used Songque

[eager smelt]

oh yeah its also a different weather

[graceful monolith]

so no..? 😭 or anything remotely similar

😔

[crude cloak]

Use PAWS leader
Which AOs do you have?

Or are Teri and DS your only ones

The only ref that I have is this, but it uses Songque
https://youtu.be/4q5l-iiTd8c?si=wBe2OB2j-FUXDa35

Should still be good enough to understand how to play

[crude cloak]

Ah, this one uses RS instead of PS too

What's your current T10 score

[graceful monolith]

yeah theyre my only ones

[crude cloak]

Use DS then

[graceful monolith]

kk

[graceful monolith]

id need to log in to rlly check but im pretty sure t10 is like 730 ish and im at 650

[crude cloak]

Yeah, you might as well not bother

You ain't beating 730

[graceful monolith]

LMFAO 💀 well thanks

gave me a sweaty bracket i figure 😔 im 50 away from nirv

[crude cloak]

You defo don't wanna be in Nirv for the next cycle anyway

[crude cloak]

Also, trophies don't affect the bracket selection at all

Only the tier does

[graceful monolith]

i mean its random sometimes i get sweatier brackets sometimes i get slackers

ty for the advice

[gray gust]

Idk if it's right channel or not, but I will ask anyway

Does valk like Luna, PS Sushang, and Sirin attacks still count as meele when it comes countering attacks like Andrius' parry, MA Tonatiuh's parry, etc.?

[crude cloak]

LV's basics are not Bleed DMG, so yes
Sushang should depend on the boss, some bosses look at the attack, while some look at the type of damage (idk whether that makes sense to you, lmk if you need more details)
Sirin yes (Ignite doesn't make the damage not melee)

[vernal terrace]

Thought PS doesn't count as Melee or Ranged

[crude cloak]

Damage-wise yes
But attack-wise it's a different story
iirc VQ can parry some stuff (even though she's full Bleed)

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[gray gust]

Sushang attacks (animation wise) looks meele for me

Perhaps better if I ask like VQ or CE Griseo

[crude cloak]

Well, refer to Sushang for the answer about VQ

CE's only Bleed DMG source is the meteors, so

Essentially with Bleed DMG it's inconsistent between bosses

[gray gust]

Wait
I always thought all damage from CE are Bleed

[gray gust]

Ok back to this, so I think the one look at damage type is more of Meele weather in Abyss doesn't it?

[crude cloak]

The weather looks at the damage, yes

Sushang won't benefit from it

[crude cloak]

But wouldn't be hindered by it either if she was ranged

[vernal terrace]

^

Same goes for Ranged Weather

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/oUQKRUBuEu8?si=3cAtdXmL2XuAM6DE I think if I get 700 I should be safe, is that possible here?
I tried to follow this run cause it feels like my only option. Four Star Kiana ELF > S Teri.

https://youtu.be/Ns-mlnp_ioM?si=f5J0YdEj9zULM0M2 the run ^

[gray gust]

Alright thanks all
CN info ||Since I guess I will see myself bruteforcing bosses with Dragon Coralie (both DPS and Support) and be prepared if Andrius appear again||

[pale musk]

This is my current bracket, what's the lowest score that could help me survive?

[eager smelt]

why are u ulting before ring u have enough dmg to not need a 2nd ult

[pale musk]

Because you ulted before ring in your run

[eager smelt]

dont just copy
u need to understand why

first attempt with kiana elf

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/Ns-mlnp_ioM?si=DVUU8I4EDc_EiVIO
0:29 why do you not basic and cancel with ult?
1:17 I normally press Coralie weapon as soon as the camera turns, when do I need to do it and why?
What are you doing at 1:25 exactly (button inputs if you remember)? And is it better than what I’m trying to do (spam jump and dodge while trying to stay in one spot)?
1:45 Is it better for Kiana to use weapon before it lands?
1:50 is Coralie basic > wep better than just wep?
2 why don’t you basic cancel on ult and why do you ult when it has shield?
2:18 why did you basic cancel on combo attack and not on the other combo attacks?
2:22 Do you recommend Eva/jump spam at the feathers or basic cancel with Eva?

[eager smelt]

insta ringing so dont need the minor dmg
wa so it wont run out when coralie comes back on after transition so u can keep 3 stacks instead of 2
3 evade, sideways then front twice (theres a way to do more evasions but its significantly harder)
the thought process behind wa on spawn is that ringing takes so long that it might as well be better to have the wa hit for the hit buff (i cant remember if this was actually better or not)
coralie isnt using basic its just a weapon with no movement which has shorter animation than with movement for this situation for some reason
the ult timing doesnt particularly matter as long as u dont do it too late so it can come back eventually, ur gonna ring on a basic cancel anyways so it doesnt matter if u do basic cancel on ult or not, either is ok
didnt basic cancel here, the bar was just stuck so it did a basic before the combo (this happens if u do 3 cancels and weapon)
u need to keep atking while evading for the energy regen that comes from constant atks

[pale musk]

I ended it early cause I thought it was a failed run, then finished it up anyway but didn't think it was enough to start another recording, and I ended up getting 681 https://youtu.be/51R4c0P0vXY?si=9fnj-ckDp7a823C7

[eager smelt]

dont basic cancel before ring
if u need the dmg u can just basic cancel more before ult

ur hofi buffs expire by here

ringing takes u too long

[pale musk]

Should I switch to re-apply or just get better at farming?

[eager smelt]

just wa later

[pale musk]

Also at 0:17 of this video, is it tap Coralie weap then switch to Vita or are there more inputs going on there?

[eager smelt]

even if u get better at farming its mostly rng

[eager smelt]

its just wa and qte

[pale musk]

Something like this, or did I overcorrect by having wep attack go first?

[eager smelt]

basic cancel cant chain into weapon

it doesnt cancel

do jump instead

[pale musk]

So I do something like this?

[eager smelt]

yes

thats a little faster than what u did before

[pale musk]

making t9, ty

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/PfMiNnx-qt8?si=XjdtelqICCPrRNHS ik it's a bit late but ya never know

[eager smelt]

the evades and input speed are lacking but the flow of the run is fine

[pale musk]

[eager smelt]

yeah this cycle is just bad

very difficult for s0 vita

no energy + no dmg

[pale musk]

as f2p, should I ever consider ranks?

[vagrant fractal]

yeah, just get lucky and SSS using your free crystals

[eager smelt]

no

the only valk that needed ranks was horb

and now horb is dead

[steady osprey]

what about vita? s2 seems good
mine stay at s0 though. I cant afford more than 1 pity

its too late to consider it too. i'm just wondering

[narrow cedar]

its definitely better to stay s0 you can succeed in more game content if you build horizontal cause every character has their own boss nowadays, but for true f2p it might be hard to get everyone. might be doable if you never pull astral ops, but that doesnt seem viable these days with how strong theyve gotten if you like playing competitive. my first year pkaying this game i had no ELFs whatsoever but it was a different time

f2p shouldnt pull s2 anything unless you get 2 in the discount 10

[pale musk]

k, ty for the help

[mortal jetty]

@fast barn send help

I am already tired of this jump sec

Don't know what to do

[fast barn]

You’re slow dalao

There’s another way I think

https://youtu.be/bbiPk3UMbt4?si=UMoXtila8pu-XeLg

I hope 60 fps friendly

[mortal jetty]

Where?

[fast barn]

Nowhere fps slow
Your p2 start earlier tho

[mortal jetty]

What is this answer? You said i was slow then you say nowhere

[fast barn]

Is there anyway I can get 3 second clear without eepy?

[mortal jetty]

No

[fast barn]

Tbh your first luna qte is slow but that doesn’t matter in transition
Probably even if you cleared with this gonna be 5 sec

You can see the difference here

[mortal jetty]

Idt i can go faster than that

I am pressing her qte as fast as i can

[fast barn]

Not the qte but hotr mech timing
The evade wasn’t necessary

[mortal jetty]

Okay let try again

[fast barn]

Let me know if you got it

[mortal jetty]

I didn't get the kill yet..but now the run is a bit 0,02s faster

With your method

[fast barn]

Glad it helped

[finite kernel]

Man, my game freezes on lots of cutscene video, do we have a fix for this?
Restarting game and redownloading assets doesnt seem to fix

[crude cloak]

#🔌technical-help is the more appropriate channel for this

[finite kernel]

Nice, i didn't even see this channel after scanning the channel list.. 3 times.

[boreal eagle]

next boss in abyss we use sena dps ?

[half hatch]

Yuh

Hoyo saw badum songque too good so they moved critical value and made weather reso

[vernal terrace]

Badum still good though cause of the Domain Resonance tag

[half hatch]

I mean u use her anyway in sena team

[vernal terrace]

True

[half hatch]

They just want sena to have a boss and not be stolen by kia + songque

[vernal terrace]

Fair

Gonna see a few Badum likely though

[boreal eagle]

only +3D from last time if i pick the refine maybe i can copy my old rot

[toxic oriole]

what do hard mode on spaceship gameplay give?

[dense parcel]

when it comes to elysias astral ring whos the best one atm? would theresa work im tempted to pull

[crude cloak]

She would work, but she won't be good

[dense parcel]

im guessing serapeum is better right

[crude cloak]

Oh, wait, you meant the AO?
Teri AO is not good at all then
Sera is best, yes, but it's not recommended to get her at all

[dense parcel]

wait so who should i use

[crude cloak]

AOs don't matter unless you're in Nirvana (and WoD cycles are rare)

[dense parcel]

so i just stick to the free one for now right?

[crude cloak]

Ye

[dense parcel]

who could i use as a placeholder for thelema until she reruns?

[crude cloak]

Do you insist on getting your HoHE DPS built? Because Thele's not recommended to get either

But who to use depends on who you alr have

[dense parcel]

yes i do shes my favourite character i invested so much back then to get her full premium team

😭 🤦‍♀️ i havent played much in chapter 2 at all i only got her new set and weapon and thats it. i tried pulling for vita and i have all her gear just not her (dont ask why i did that)

[crude cloak]

Keep in mind that it's possible for Thele not to rerun at all atp and just appear in the paid BP

[dense parcel]

thats very true

who should i go for then? any suggestions?

[crude cloak]

So, you only have HoHE out of geared P2 valks?

[dense parcel]

yea and the free ones.....

[crude cloak]

You can get Vita herself at the end of this patch

And you'll have to use HoHE Vita Coralie for now

[dense parcel]

yes that was my initial plan since i basically have everything

coralie is already sss with her full gear at least

[crude cloak]

||If you pull the 8.4 valk you'll be able to use HoHE Vita 8.4, but that's still copium ofc||

[dense parcel]

LOL shes cute but idk i am still scared of a possible new ely valk

and then i just wait for thele to come to bp eventually right?

32 orbs were two premium bps iirc?

[crude cloak]

They bumped up the amount of balls you get from paid BP recently, lemme double check

[dense parcel]

oh they did?? tysm for your help btw!

[crude cloak]

Yeah, Knight is 18, and Pala is 24

[dense parcel]

oh thats great! so like one and a half

[crude cloak]

This includes the balls you get from Dorm Shop

Are you alr buying BPs? It might be a good idea to go for Sena if you alr have enough

In that case you'll be able to use HoHE Sena Vita

[dense parcel]

i am considering it rn since i should get her to finally be able to clear anything again

oh wait thats true!

tysm then i will do that and wait for thele to come to the bp

[crude cloak]

You could go weapless in this particular case, but getting the weap (if possible) is still a solid upgrade