💁gameplay-help

[sacred cape]

Even Luna is ok, im just a cripple

Except that one time in abyss where Benares pissed me off cause Luna sp regen just no shot ticks faster enough on 60

[mortal jetty]

From my experience..all the boss i could not cap in MA on 60 fps.. sometime I asked some others dalao like @daniel or @fast barn to try it for me and they get same score as me

[sacred cape]

Did you cap flower

[mortal jetty]

Yeah last time

[sacred cape]

Never got to ask you on that one

[mortal jetty]

But it was really really hard for me

If he rerun i would not do it again

The jump sec is just cancer

[sacred cape]

You see this is kinda the harsh point I wanted to make not so obvious about

I can cap that thing with ease

There’s skill issue along with playing on 60

[mortal jetty]

Last time I sent you my run there was not really a diff from yours right?

[sacred cape]

Even I suck massively against those who can cap Luna

Yea I’m just faster by pressing buttons

[mortal jetty]

Lol

[sacred cape]

In general if your timer just ticked at the end

Ifs doable on 60

You just can’t do it, or rather, I can’t, personal experience

[mortal jetty]

Yeah but sometime it's not... jump sec doesn't really garantee you yhe same score as ref... I was having a nightmare again kevin in MA because of jump sec

I thought the run is possible but even after 4 hours malding the same run it was just impossible even with perfect frame

[sacred cape]

#💁gameplay-help message

Kiana is a massive offender

Ely has been a massive offender since forever

Sparkle qte is also a crap

[mortal jetty]

Yeah and we are using all the valks you mentioned above every MA week( almost)

[sacred cape]

They make it hard af

But not impossible probably

Except that Dudu ely sparkle

If aka bitched it im not even gonna bother

[mortal jetty]

I mean .. when I tried to cap score and mald 4 hours and don't get it ( although I am doing same shit as ref) I will just call it impossible in my case... the emergency case is when I asked someone to do it on 60 fps and if he don't get the cap...then I am not wrong or skill issue

For your information there are a S0 run on chicken where low fps were cook as well... low fps can not get the dodge at the beginning

Same case as quantum pavarty

[sacred cape]

Ngl sounds cap

But I will try it next time

[full trench]

try ending outburst early bc sp is bricked

[half hatch]

You can still get 6 ult SO without weapon though

[dusty dagger]

Yeah the only thing sp related is the 10% initial max sp

But don't forget the 1.5s timestop

Which happens twice

[mortal jetty]

Okay every time you get a cap score with 6s run i would like to know it

[full trench]

idk it sucked on clock for me

[lapis raven]

hi cay give me abyss ref ty

[dusty dagger]

It's thursday

Wait no it's not what the fuck

Bro go find one on bili2 yourself

[lapis raven]

NICEEE i got the double eva

ok i feel like thats worthy of making a ref for

wow i recorded it first try

LOL barely t100 im the best

[mortal jetty]

Can you look the top 50 score MA in SEA?

Pls

[mortal jetty]

Okay thanks

[weak drum]

thx alot

wuv u

[lapis raven]

wrong btw

as in its not maldy

ive hit it at least 4 times in a row now

[weak drum]

owh ogey

[lapis raven]

lemme find a bgm then i send ref

[lapis raven]

https://youtu.be/4JG_vEkeUsw
ok self promo time, check desc frfr

[crude cloak]

Eh, I struggle a lot with it for some reason

[half hatch]

Does anyone have a good S0 nirvana ref for sampo wanna have a rough idea of what I'm supposed to do

[weak drum]

im so dead

[boreal eagle]

i found this https://b23.tv/fkaJJ8i but idk if good or bad

never played sampo

[lapis raven]

help me play abyss

[boreal eagle]

wtf is the love trauma

[pale palm]

What else I can use against Sampo
That hats phase is annoying if you don't bring someone with paraliza trauma
I get 621 points with this

[junior chasm]

dis a good score?

[cunning gull]

who else do u have?

[mortal jetty]

Not really

[junior chasm]

guess I'll need to look at a ref

[half hatch]

asaphie how important is dmg on sampopo

[mortal jetty]

A lot

Damage check boss

[half hatch]

i think i have dalao bracket

ggs

[mortal jetty]

When did you end p1?

[half hatch]

haven't even played kekw

[junior chasm]

oh I got 730 now

ref I'm looking at is 750 but has 70 more atk kek

I'm losing points before the hats because I'm down by 10 already at that point

ah I see I need to open with sus

[fringe sandal]

guys, am I skill issued? What's the condition for Badum and Sushang to buff PAWS?

or rather, how does sampo take more damage? I feel like my rots are unbalanced

[mortal jetty]

Kiana = qte
Sus= weapon activ? Not really sure ...

[mortal jetty]

You need to paralyze the cap in transition if i remember

[fringe sandal]

yeah I get that. I just don't seem to grasp the durations

[junior chasm]

save sp to helia ult first hat, sus badum ult the second

[mortal jetty]

I noticed that the damage can also be random in p1 smh

Probably one of my attack didn't hit him?.hmm

[boreal eagle]

still not sure how to do transition the fastest possible

[half hatch]

kia buffs either activate through CA, QTE or SO and PS buffs WA, QTE or SO

Ult also plays a decent role because of para trauma application since PAWS is the leader and in SO for SP regen

[red plank]

hey mango, so for this boss S teri is somehow better than SS DS

I got 833 with S teri

[pale palm]

everything except the last 3 valks(on the screenshot)and sleepy terri

[mortal jetty]

Hmm SSS songque seems to be really good here

[red plank]

817 with SS dS

[half hatch]

depends when is your SO ready with DS

[red plank]

late

[half hatch]

like past transition

[red plank]

iARI helped alot

yes

[half hatch]

ig you prob dont need the dmg then, though still try both

[red plank]

nah DMG was kinda excessive

S2 helped alot

[half hatch]

ah right

[red plank]

now that max 4/4

ATK is still 1436 tho, out of locks for the affixes

and out of all purchasable locks

and currency

[half hatch]

aren't you missing a fair amount of dkeys ? sounds pretty solid if so

wait nvm s2

[red plank]

missing80 ATK from dkeks minus the synergy buff

[half hatch]

forgo atk increase

[red plank]

+40

still with all p1 dkeks I should have +60 ATK

basically all my usable valks would be at 1400-1500

[cunning gull]

oh.. thats awkward.. i would assume para is required, i mean sena + vbs is something but...

[half hatch]

this boss feels so straightforward this doesnt feel right

are there any secret strats

[mortal jetty]

No

You need to manage your damage

[half hatch]

huh why dmg control

[fringe sandal]

yep thx. What's the duration of their buffs? 30s?

[half hatch]

25 s

[fringe sandal]

alright thx

[mortal jetty]

My run need damage control for what I am doing

[half hatch]

what are we doing

[mortal jetty]

Sounds crazy I know

[mortal jetty]

Idk.. I am still cooking

But SSS could be helpful here

[half hatch]

5% lightning dmg taken ?

[mortal jetty]

Can be enough for a clean kill

[mortal jetty]

She also has a skill at sss that all team teams members deal 20% more elemental damage or not?

[half hatch]

iirc that's exclusive to reso dmg

it is

and it's total dmg

[mortal jetty]

Oh I missread

So only the 5% lightning damage is relevant?

[half hatch]

yuh

and songque personal dmg i guess kek

but that aint relevant

[mortal jetty]

Okay thx mango

[lament prairie]

any supp stig alternatives for luna or no

um

[formal wigeon]

on Luna you mean ?

[boreal eagle]

@mortal jetty what score u got on mobile with s0 team ?

me like this around 770

[crude cloak]

What AO is this?

SSS Songque?

[boreal eagle]

ye SSS

[half hatch]

thb the good thing sonkek provides here is already there at S

the para trauma is pretty nice

[boreal eagle]

they can't stop me to SSS all the aop they are too op

[mortal jetty]

775 ... 776-777 doable but hard

Songque SSS can 780+

Ely team can 765+

770 cap with perfect run probably ***

[boreal eagle]

gonna spawn another 10 points then

[half hatch]

wtf you can WA extremly early with PS so that her WA travels while you hit sampopo with fws qte

[mortal jetty]

Yeah you can definitely 780-785

[half hatch]

saves like 4 points

[mortal jetty]

Not something new tho

[crude cloak]

What's the DS score tho 🗿

[mortal jetty]

It was the same on clock

[half hatch]

just didnt know that this was possible with her second WA

[mortal jetty]

Didn't try yet... I want to reach my cap before

Awawa will probably cook something for DS peep

[mortal jetty]

@boreal eagle when are you ending p1 on phone?

[boreal eagle]

i only remember a 33

dun remember the number before 3

got 777 btw my favorite number

idk if i should ruin it

[mortal jetty]

Hmm I am probably doing something wrong

[mortal jetty]

Try kiana elf pls

I want to see how is the cap with her

[boreal eagle]

k

ye i confirm 932 p1 kill even with elf kiana

but way less dmg in p2 wtf how u got that score with elf kiana

unless i f up something

[mortal jetty]

How much did you get?

[boreal eagle]

765

[mortal jetty]

The thing is i need damage control in p1

I need enough sp for para on helia

If I am too fast transition is cooked

[boreal eagle]

ye i save the ult just kill with basics +wa

[boreal eagle]

that i still dun know how to time sus qte well

[mortal jetty]

I am doing it with feeling tbh

[wicked mason]

so is PAWS, who uses dual crossbows, ranged or melee

[vernal terrace]

Melee

[formal wigeon]

what do her attacks look like

[digital sky]

Bleed? (Yes they are melee)

[formal wigeon]

she's smacking the hell out of 'em

[vernal terrace]

Ble-

[mortal jetty]

@boreal eagle can you record your p1?

[boreal eagle]

yes

932

[junior chasm]

how much atk do you guys have getting 770-780?

[mortal jetty]

1500+

[mortal jetty]

Okay thanks daniel

[junior chasm]

aight then I won't even bother going above 750

[mortal jetty]

Maybe 780 with your opener

[junior chasm]

[elfin parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6do1-cmcQHE

[misty crane]

Is there any good option for current abyss except helia? 😭

[mortal jetty]

You can try any team with a melee damage

[misty crane]

Idk if this team can retent or not 😭

[digital sky]

Sena or teri dps.?

[misty crane]

Teri dps

[digital sky]

Do u have vita or hofi

Senas not that amazing of a ws support

[misty crane]

Vita? Weaponless and no hofi

[digital sky]

I would try vita just in case

[half hatch]

she doesnt really need her weapon to support

[digital sky]

U can always put sena wep on vita

[misty crane]

Vita onfield time really bad

[half hatch]

she shouldnt be on field for too long

[digital sky]

Well ur also getting more triggers

[half hatch]

just get her punch and ult and get out

[misty crane]

Lemmet try again

[misty crane]

Nope Vita suck

[digital sky]

Lemme try vita

...after crying through 2 side stages

[crude cloak]

No HoFi? She should be better than Badum

But ye, looks pretty cooked regardless

Eh, maybe not

Ah, didn't backread, mb

[misty crane]

can i improve this rot ?

[crude cloak]

Paimon humble brag is crazy

Try not to do Badum's finisher at the end of P1
It's a sus ani, which means it slows down the enemy

[misty crane]

It's time stop tho...

[mortal jetty]

Did you try badum dps?

[crude cloak]

Oh, ye xdd
Thought that kicked in a bit later

[misty crane]

Also skip badum finisher make me can't ult after teri combo coz still on astral outbursts

[crude cloak]

Not enough Para in that case tho
And iirc the hats are hella tanky

[mortal jetty]

Yeah I just noticed

Badoom dps is faster than helia in p1 but transition suckssss

[mortal jetty]

@crude cloak @half hatch

[crude cloak]

Gonna try that tomorrow, thx

[eager smelt]

what the hell is that dmg thats significantly more than me

oh wait ds no wonder

kiana so weak on p1

[half hatch]

since im missing some dmg can i do kia CA to get more dmg before so

kia CA for stellar drain in p1 i mean

cuz of this

[proud shuttle]

how do i activate buffs on this team and whats the general rotation?

[crude cloak]

The buff activation is the same as in LoA

[proud shuttle]

noted

[crude cloak]

But the difference is that in SO you wanna do either Badum's enhanced WA or HoHE's WA + finisher for Helia to have enough SP for the full rot

[proud shuttle]

so either of the 2 supports but not both?

[half hatch]

erm akshually its Hohe charged attack which is auto casted 🤓

[crude cloak]

Both is excessive

[crude cloak]

Isn't just CA not enough

[half hatch]

WA just does not regen SP

[crude cloak]

The finisher does iirc

[half hatch]

yeah that one does

i was talking about HoHe WA part

[crude cloak]

But I think I remember lacking SP when I tried to skip HoHE's WA (cuz you can use finisher faster that way)
Lemme retest

[digital sky]

I gotta do all 4

[quasi pier]

now I sleep

[crude cloak]

Nvm, I misremembered

I think I was testing that with PS HoHE in the past

[half hatch]

ps or fws shouldnt matter here tbh

fws just regens more SP with her WA

otherwise they are both the same in everything SP related

unless i missunderstood and you do 4/4 SP regen attacks

then just ignore me

[crude cloak]

Anyway, it's either HoHE's WA or Helia's WA

Though with HoHE's WA I'm lacking 1 SP

Could be the boss just dodging attacks (I have to use Gaymax)

[proud shuttle]

[mortal jetty]

You will be slow

But you can try actually

[mortal jetty]

@storm ocean you can follow this

[turbid minnow]

Hey guys, what's a replacement team in RL for Sampo if no Helia?

[fierce crypt]

hoo dps

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zZTKzpE5C

[crude cloak]

@dusty dagger do you include pretty useless codes? If so, HELIAREBORN

Just a trial card for PAWS

[dusty dagger]

I mean ig I could

[crude cloak]

Ayo wtf

[storm ocean]

O thanks!

[coral drum]

Is it okay if I were to do Elysian Realm? Last time I did it on my previous account after finishing the "Thus Spoke Apocalypse" chapter (or whatever it's called. The one with Otto). I kinda want to try doing Elysian Realm ahead of time (I just reached the "Deep End of Sea" chapter) for the Training Plan bonus

[quick quest]

sure, why not?

[coral drum]

Kk. Just making sure in case there's a certain story chapter that I have to do before doing Elysian Realm

[quick quest]

only if you feel strongly about doing it in story order, but you've already done that once so it seems even less of a concern for you

[coral drum]

Actually.. I kinda skipped most of the dialogues on the HoD part..

And the HoS part too

[quick quest]

IMO the ER story is very separate from the main story (except you need to do it before ch29) so there aren't significant spoilers
when I did ER early I just wondered ||why Mei looked like that and who Raven was|| but those didn't actually spoil any story content
even if you are strict about spoilers I think ER follows naturally after ch17, ch19 at most, no need to wait as long as you did before

[coral drum]

I suppose so.. I didn't skip Nagazora and I kinda remember the gist of it, so I guess it's fine either way

[reef tide]

Between non AsOp and AsOp build which one is easier to do for Helia in ER?

[mortal jetty]

The non Asop was better for me

[reef tide]

Ok, and which one?

[mortal jetty]

The ult one

[reef tide]

Uhhh, variable arms?

[mortal jetty]

Wdym? I was just spamming ult + weapon

And basic

[reef tide]

In rentry there's 2 of each non AsOp and AsOp

[mortal jetty]

https://youtu.be/NJSwscp6bOw?si=l4aUr6Gqh8FWHhbC

Watch this ...you can probably have a better idea

[reef tide]

Got it

[boreal eagle]

why tf sampo has dmg variance after transition

i dun understand how to control it

[fast barn]

I don’t know how it works tbh but I figured sus weapon atk has to hit before ult
Otherwise I miss so much dmg

[half hatch]

cuz otherwise her buffs are not active so that checks out

[boreal eagle]

so i can't ult too fast or i cant use weapon too early

f so annoying

i literally can't get that buff anymore yesterday was fine

[primal trail]

any options to defeat sampo? i didnt pull for paws

[mortal jetty]

Hoo dps

[primal trail]

grazie

hofi team?

or like GD and LV?

[half hatch]

i'd assume HoO/HoFi/GD since HoO needs HoFi + waxing moon and GD for the para

[primal trail]

hofi is better than LV?

[crude cloak]

With dkey yes by a big margin

[half hatch]

yes HoO dps needs HoFi's dkey and her new set gives buffs to HoO

[primal trail]

damn

[crude cloak]

(GD leader tho)

[half hatch]

it basically was HoO's dkey

[crude cloak]

(assuming SSS GD)

[outer cloud]

For new Kiana, I always see ppl always jump up and then a plunge attack. Is that for buff? What's the exact move.

[eager smelt]

hold atk
it works on the ground too but doing it in the air lets u swap out the moment u get the buffs applied so its easier to time

[outer cloud]

ty

[half hatch]

most of the time it's done for stellar drain or to activate her buffs if you swap to fws without activating her qte. In LoA it's also used to reset leader switch CD

[outer cloud]

How about Sushang jump up, do soemthing, switch to Kiana, jump atk then Paw. What should Sushang do?

[boreal eagle]

helia wa or the punch with full bar gives some self buff ?

[quick quest]

sushang doesn't need to jump, her stellar drain is wa+wa (or qte+wa)

[quick quest]

seems not

[vernal terrace]

Are you in RL?
This question isn't related to what you asked ;-;

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/BT8QwAnhrR8?si=jWiHTPjZuiJ-u_-e If it's possible, can I please have some tips on improving this run? I know I messed up the end of SO so I tried to fix it in this clip - though I ended up getting a better time somehow even though I remember doing the same rotation.

[half hatch]

You can improve your opener, switch to sus and cast her first WA when final floor appears, then cast her second WA shortly after the second tone from the enemy appears indicator and then ult, now QTE to badum and then qte to paws. Your paws should enter with her QTE at 1000

You know that u succeeded if your PS WA hits with a singular hit

[eager smelt]

started ps weapon way too late, u should be able to qte helia at 1000 but it took u 997
first hat should use ult right before the flower hits the hat so the flower will move into the hat during sus ani and will lose only a fraction of a point meanwhile u lost 2 points
second hat has a few ways to do it but u definitely shouldnt be using ps wa if ur doing the helia wa route ur losing way too many points (7 instead of the fraction of a point u should have lost)
1:40 cant go ps first instead of badum on kiana elf or else dmg falls off a cliff dont ask me why
u should have also replaced one of ur atk seqs with helia qte after badum since it hits a little harder

a perfect transition will only lose around half a point and wont tick at all

so start transition 936 and end 936

then badum qte for 933

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/JvHX1pAsfPo?si=bpUJeODXVwqbRkOm&t=54 I was copying this run for the second hat, so idk how else it's done.
I also copied the ps first in SO but that's probably because the run has Songque

[eager smelt]

u didnt even copy the 2nd hat properly

[pale musk]

did they do the best method to clear 2nd hat or is there a way you reccomend more?

[willow wedge]

I need help with jade knight: I have her b stig, and can only get her signature weapon or the t stig, which one should I get that would be best for her as ice support?

[quick quest]

she needs her wep to have enough SP, for stigs she can cope with turgenev TB or jin shengtang TM

[willow wedge]

Thanks so much, weapon it is

[half hatch]

are you spending the BP balls on the weapon ?

there are better things to invest in with those than P1 Ice teams which are dead anyway

[quick quest]

good point

[willow wedge]

Yes 😅 what else could I save them on?

[half hatch]

there are some divine keys in reserve work that give you a permenant + 10 atk to your account

thought some require their craftable counterpart

generally i wouldnt focus too much on p1 ice teams since it's likely better to just bruteforce with any p2 team

[willow wedge]

Oh I saw those, which are the best to get? Would any give the +10 at?

[half hatch]

divine keys currently in reserve work are

• twins of eden
• fenghuang down ( requires Fenghuang pinions from foundry for the +10 atk)
• Might of An-UtU
• Abyss flower ( requires abyss from foundry )

[willow wedge]

Damn. I need all of those.

I guess my fear is getting them and then the game giving them for free down the line

[half hatch]

it's more of an long term goal but f2ps cant do a lot with those balls at least things that are meta related, maybe pick up a stigmata for MA or a weird Abyss strat but there's not much more

[dusky mantle]

Oh its the weekend

Can finally speedrun event

[willow wedge]

Gotchu, will just get the divine keys, you're right honestly, P1 is dead so hopefully down the line will given chances to get their gear more easily

[half hatch]

valid concern we sadly can't predict if when and which dkey's the'll maybe give out for free but it's rather rare that they do that anyway.|| we already know that there will be a spending event next patch with a dkey box for more info check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins though be aware that the new valk is already be revealed there||

[willow wedge]

Thanks will join that group, I need spoilers to plan lol 😄😄

[half hatch]

|| and they'll also add 7 thunders to reserve work next version which is also a divine key||

[willow wedge]

I got that one thank goodness 🥲

[eager smelt]

the best way is just one that applies buffs and doesnt drop the point
which they didnt do the 2nd part of that

[pale musk]

So something like. Sushang ult > Helia QTE and ult?

[keen void]

Whats a good third unit for the new helia. I already have badum but the only other part 2 valk i have are coralie, helia, sparkle, and songque. i was thinking of getting sushang with my 20k diamonds but not sure about back pulling.

[eager smelt]

no

[half hatch]

With the info we already have about 8.4 back pulling Sushang does not sound like a good idea

For the meantime you can use Coralie IG

You'll still suffer from SP issues in SO to ult 6 times with paws though

[crude cloak]

1. Backpulling is not a good idea in general
2. You're too broke

[keen void]

Alright. thank you

[vernal terrace]

Might have to cope with Vbm

[keen void]

@half hatch whats in 8.4 thats so good if thats something i can ask here?

[half hatch]

|| GoI breach support which are extremely valuable most of the time + paws is one of her best teammates and she should also be one of paws best teammates ||

|| not to mention that we will also have a small spending event with a dkey box including xy sword which is pretty rare but that's a highly competitive thing that not every player really needs to care about ||

[keen void]

i see, thanks for the explanation

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/qp4XYnUesNk?si=CzhYOzOZYcwGYA26 🧑‍🦲 ||

[eager smelt]

na friendly run when

[dark phoenix]

have no idea what to do in phase transition

sometimes i see ppl wait for the flower to stop, sometimes they just keep attacking

[eager smelt]

helia ult to paralyze hat 1
ps ult to paralyze hat 2
badum ult to finish the remaining paralyze bar

[dark phoenix]

what is the different between nir and rl? i see hieu le just attack with whatever and it does the same

[rare iris]

Nirv has tougher mobs/bosses than RL ofc, so it needs more planning

That's why scores are far apart between RL and Nirv

[crude cloak]

(are you memeing or is that a genuine response xdd)

[rare iris]

idk, haven't slept yet

[crude cloak]

[rare iris]

:deadge:

[dark phoenix]

i mean im talking about phase transition, i dont think tougher mobs/bosses matter there right?

[half hatch]

You don't have any SP left in RL cuz you kill sampo too fast

So you can't ult first hat with paws

[dark phoenix]

[rare iris]

can't you just not use her weap lol

skip the punch too

Should be played like this

Ult > basic > Ult > basic > Ult > basic > Ult

you could prolly kill on 4th ult already

if not you'll still have weap to use and give you the sp for ulting 1st hat

[pale musk]

I’m sorry, could you please describe what the rotation looks like? It’s kind of hard to picture what you’re talking about.

[eager smelt]

then just use ps for first hat

u can reorder the seq theres not much diff

[eager smelt]

ps hits a hat with either qte or wa and then ults

[pale musk]

And then what? For me that alone doesn’t trigger part 2 unless I just got to wait.

[half hatch]

Qte to fws and ult to get the last bit of para

[pale musk]

They did that here ( https://youtu.be/JvHX1pAsfPo) but they dropped the point, is there a special way to do that where you don’t drop the point?

#💁gameplay-help message essentially, how do I accomplish this?

[eager smelt]

u will go -3 on badum qte but u can do everything before that without losing a point

[pale musk]

getting better

[pale musk]

what's probably the highest score under Nirv 545?

[eager smelt]

no clue but u should be able to at least pass me

[vagrant fractal]

what's probably the lowest score under Nirv 545?

[eager smelt]

my score

[mortal jetty]

@boreal eagle

[boreal eagle]

try to do an evade before sus joint wa but in this case i think u missed badum qte buff

yes there is that too

[mortal jetty]

Badum buff are up

[boreal eagle]

ah

[mortal jetty]

Look at the mark on shampoo

[boreal eagle]

weird ill retry real quick and record

[mortal jetty]

Okay

[eager smelt]

no they arent

u missed the qte

[boreal eagle]

had a recording

i forgot to spam a and ult same time here

[mortal jetty]

Badum qte didn't it the hat? I thought buff should be up if we see the mark

[eager smelt]

nah the qte has to do dmg or else no buff

[mortal jetty]

Oh ok

[mortal jetty]

@eager smelt kiana ult didn't do damage on Daniel video

[boreal eagle]

it doesn't matter ult is just for grail infinitude sp i think

[eager smelt]

who said ult needed to do dmg?

i said qte needed to

[mortal jetty]

Hmm

Ok

[boreal eagle]

still no euphie ref for p2 smh I have to figure out the best rot alone

[mortal jetty]

You can just SO after the full rot after transition

Then you see how to adapt your p2 damage

[boreal eagle]

ye thats the problem if i dun kill with finisher i waste like 10 points so hard i have not enough dmg

was losing my mind yesterday evening lel

[mortal jetty]

Add a minirot after the full rot before SO... I can kill on finisher with it

Is there a consistent way to hit the hat with kianan qte ? I am still missing smh

Okay I think its probably the position

[boreal eagle]

or camera auto /free try both

is always that one with qte problems usually

[rare iris]

just let go of the dpad when you qte her

or let go at the end of Sus ult

[boreal eagle]

kyo u managed to recreate eu D in beta test run

so dalao

[rare iris]

there's a better way tbh, Darius is malding it too

but he's Ratrius atm

[boreal eagle]

post at 1 hour before abyss closes

[mortal jetty]

If I get perfect transition 785 maybe possible.. maybe

Maybe

[mortal jetty]

Is it possible to have helia + sus ult at same score like 933 for example? Even if its a low 933?

[rare iris]

No, there's a tiny window the timer will tick before the hat gets hit. Need the score at mid frames

[mortal jetty]

It means low 933 should expect a 932 after sus ult ?

[rare iris]

Most of the time, yes

[mortal jetty]

Okay thanks

[mortal jetty]

What is this dmg rng

Missed the 785

784 is it then... missing small damage for 785

[deep sage]

is there a build spreadsheet?

[eager smelt]

its just sig gear

[boreal eagle]

we got same score on mobile

but im using songque

[mortal jetty]

Songque should be able to do more normally...I saw you got a 936 p1

I am pretty sure 790 can be doable with songque since you can end p1 earlier

[boreal eagle]

thats why im sad i should be doing 794

[mortal jetty]

794 is a lot

What are you missing then?

[boreal eagle]

no idea

[mortal jetty]

When are you starting p2?

[boreal eagle]

at 935

i think is all hitlag and me missing the 3a dmg

[mortal jetty]

You can this sequence: qte helia+ult-> aa dodge aa dodge ult-> aa dodge aa dodge ult-> big punch-> weapon activ->ult before SO

[boreal eagle]

ill try later thanks

[mortal jetty]

In SO : full ult + big punch-> kiana qte+ ult-> helia qte-> sus qte + ult-> helia qte-> ult×3-> weapon activ + finisher

@boreal eagle this is what I am doing

Or you can add aa dodge aa instead of one ult in 2nd rotation in SO

[hardy elm]

is hte aponia build in the shallow sequence tutorials for elysian realm gonan be enough

to quickly clear a x1.75 diff

[dusky mantle]

Define quickly clear. Irl time or declared time

[hardy elm]

just that it wont struggle

cuz its quite old

just needit cleared once so i can get the shop cleared out

[dusky mantle]

ah for aponia

Pretty sure any valk clears finality this patch

[fiery pilot]

Is paws ranged or melee?

[vernal terrace]

[plucky gust]

pretty sure its melee...

ngl paws right now is kinda bad to play. . . the team has no/weak gather. . .

ofc if you mean the boss, ofc she's the answer, but on the stages before the boss, not really

[boreal eagle]

no gather helia prefers 1vs1

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[fiery pilot]

Then is badum melee?

[vernal terrace]

Both are melee

Literally brute forced the side stages except the one with Badum

[rare iris]

The gather from her combo punch is fairly strong tho

[dusky whale]

If anyone has a lot of ELFs and Astral Operators, could you please post a screenshot of the Dorm Errands at the moment when you’re selecting ELFs? I can’t find any information that shows which ELF gives bonuses to what. Thanks in advance to everyone who replies! For example, here is my screenshot:

[last rapids]

@dusky whale

[dusky whale]

Thanks a lot!

[last rapids]

this is what i own, assume 8 is max rank, 7 is SS/3 stars and 6 is 2 stars

[lapis raven]

whelphie

[formal wigeon]

now I wonder what decides the background color on those

or if it's just random everytime you open it

[last rapids]

lmao what a weird thing to pay attention to

i wouldnt have noticed 100 yrs from now

[formal wigeon]

iirc valks should have their type color in that menu

[zealous minnow]

Weak? 😦

[vernal terrace]

Dreamseeker looks like she's PSY

[dusky mantle]

I mean. Its just dkey diff + affix diff. The performance still depends on you

[vernal terrace]

Skill matters more

[zealous minnow]

She have songque astral op

the first one

maybe i'm on rank10 and lose no points and is all i want

i'm not ready to go nirvana, one team isn't enough

also skill problem so...RL it's fine

[vernal terrace]

I'm T2 RL with likely the same team as you

[zealous minnow]

aniway i'm not really low on points

[dusty dagger]

The real question is why pbunny has the bio bg instead of the mech one

[formal wigeon]

the other real question is why do you think pbunny is mech

[vernal terrace]

They seem mech tbf

[dusty dagger]

you got me

[formal wigeon]

are you assuming their type

[vernal terrace]

[elfin parrot]

amateur mistake in a world with raven :V

[formal wigeon]

she's not real she can't hurt you

[zealous minnow]

Who know if i have to skip next patch....

don't know if i go around 42k each patch so...

[formal wigeon]

don't worry you have until next year to figure that out

[vernal terrace]

[zealous minnow]

plus we can have surprise on Dkey

maybe will be good patch to skip

[dusty dagger]

[formal wigeon]

copium overload

[vernal terrace]

Don't know if it's a skip for me

[dusty dagger]

Ngl I haven't done abyss yet

@lapis raven where's my sambo ref

[lapis raven]

i was legit asking u for it

[vernal terrace]

Sambo lol

[dusty dagger]

Shit

[lapis raven]

nirv or rl

[dusty dagger]

Nirv

[lapis raven]

what team

@dusty dagger

[dusty dagger]

pa fws ps

[dusky mantle]

Why not aim for +100

[lapis raven]

kyo ref

[junior chasm]

bruh is this really a demote score?

[lapis raven]

eu and score still so low wowww

[dusky mantle]

Get wrecked

[lapis raven]

im salty as fuck rn bro

[junior chasm]

I literally don't have the atk to go higher

[lapis raven]

i do the same rot i did on sea on eu and im getting 744 easily

[junior chasm]

[lapis raven]

on sea? im at 713

stupid dist

[dusky mantle]

Same

[lapis raven]

bro im gonna be rl on reso guay WITH s2 sena

im so fucking tilted

[dusky mantle]

HAHAH BAYMAX

[dusky mantle]

Im going to be nirb reso guay with s0 sena

Free sleep

[full trench]

unless i get helia wep in the next pull im going to rl which honestly isnt bad since i dont think type chicken or reso gaymax are retainable s0 no aops

[lapis raven]

im fr highest s0 helia with hh on sea (cos no one else is using it)

[edgy hamlet]

Why is helia doing 3.27 mil dmg then sometimes only 1.78 mil? I dont understand....

[half hatch]

did sus WA hit a hat in transition ?

otherwise her buffs are not active

[boreal eagle]

i bet missing sus buff

[edgy hamlet]

I think it hit?

[boreal eagle]

yes but missed badum qte

auto camera if u want that buff

not free

[edgy hamlet]

ok that might be the issue. I just switched to auto

[boreal eagle]

btw i reached the conclusion that song SSS dmg in AO sucks is actually -2 points in p2 and just a +1.5 in p1

i should have used kiana

[edgy hamlet]

yea this is much more consistent

I think I got all the buffs this time but my damage is still kinda bad... Also any major time loss anywhere in this run?

[boreal eagle]

i know because i had same problem was losing my mind

[edgy hamlet]

much appreciated

[edgy hamlet]

Everyone S0+1 and Kiana elf 4*. Attacks are PA - 1477, FWS - 1473, PS - 1461

[boreal eagle]

the rot seems perfect to me but if u do some cancels with helia AA-evade-AA u can end p1 sooner same thing with p2 u can adjust dmg and timing with this tech u f up bad at the end

u were spamming random buttons

[gloomy folio]

Best build for bright knight excelsis is t m Dante b Elysia?

[edgy hamlet]

I tried to use the evade cancels but was lacking damage and couldnt finish P1 cleanly. Also yea the ending was a bit improvised... I was using radicre's ref and they kill with one helia ult after SO. I had to do another attack string for a second ult then swap to kiana to QTE then ult to kill. Im not sure what else I couldve added after SO ended

[boreal eagle]

i just saw ur PA atk indeed low

i see I can't think of nothing to improve then

[edgy hamlet]

Im gonna blame the ATK diff then

Thanks for the help again

[formal wigeon]

in a vacuum yes

[gloomy folio]

Wdym?

[formal wigeon]

the last few times she was used long ago was to cope on Dominance Aponia without Hare so she used Eins T Dante MB

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[formal wigeon]

but in a vacuum without any outside thing, ye Dante ely

[flat rain]

I’m fucked

[crude cloak]

Yeah, I'd defo make a new acc in your case

[crude cloak]

Nothing notable nowadays

[flat rain]

I don’t want to just give up and make a new account

[digital sky]

Is next boss vita or Badum?

[half hatch]

Vita

Birb has always been Vita boss

[boreal eagle]

vita boss without vita rerun

[half hatch]

Teri advertisement

[mortal jetty]

@acoustic onyx

This is what I did for 784...this is an trash run but you get the idea

You can be faster in p1

[acoustic onyx]

thanksies ser I will see if I have the power - it's starting to rain so weather is omega assge

[mortal jetty]

Np

[acoustic onyx]

I see you add weapon right at the end before ending burst

maek sens - I'm not sure about my damage feels less

[mortal jetty]

Damage are sometimes ramdom if you are a bit slow

Sometime I have higher damage Sometime not

[acoustic onyx]

having issue with sushang in transition, I think she misses a buff

which of her fckin attacks even buff

[mortal jetty]

Kiana qte didn't hit probably

I got same issue

[acoustic onyx]

does umbrella have to hit?

I can check this time

[mortal jetty]

I am not really sure since I am doing sus fast ult

[acoustic onyx]

this should be a hit

[half hatch]

Any sus WA needs to hit for buff

Same with kia qte

[acoustic onyx]

kiki I know

[mortal jetty]

If you saw damage number then kiana probably hit

[acoustic onyx]

sushang I probably missed cause early

I have numbers off

doesnt qte apply the visual anyways

this

[half hatch]

Ult also does iirc

[mortal jetty]

Yeah but if the qte didn't hit you are missing damage

[acoustic onyx]

fckin honk

kiki ult does not apply the visual

[mortal jetty]

Mango you can try the run above for 775+

[half hatch]

I don't wanna bald

My bracket is hopeless anyway

[acoustic onyx]

qte, weapon active and aerial combo should apply it

[mortal jetty]

No top 50?

[acoustic onyx]

oh and normal combo also

your bracket also stacked?

[half hatch]

Eh idm 70 crystals in exchange for my sanity

[acoustic onyx]

[mortal jetty]

Sweat bracket

[half hatch]

#🎮honkai-chat message

And there's like 3 s2s below me

[round arch]

I saw 2 guys went from s2 to ss helia in this cycle LMAO

[half hatch]

Kek

[round arch]

they were s2 first and one went to ss1 and the other ss lol

[boreal eagle]

ppl forgot we have spending and anniversary

soon

[acoustic onyx]

my damage is not even close

[round arch]

I guess, they dont care anyways xD

[acoustic onyx]

after minirot your damaj is almost half a minibar higher than mine here

sushonk weap only has to hit anything, right? not the actual boss

[boreal eagle]

need to see dmg numbers ye

[mortal jetty]

You are missing smt

[acoustic onyx]

wait I just see you dont even use weap @wintry lynx

sorry for pong, discord dum

[mortal jetty]

Is there something particular in anniversary? Why are people overrating it

[dusty dagger]

LMAOOOOOO

keksplode

[acoustic onyx]

it wasnt me it was autocomplete

[boreal eagle]

usually op valk

worth to rank up

[round arch]

with 2 future tags LMAO

[boreal eagle]

or big spending i dun actually remember

[round arch]

and good support/ buff

[mortal jetty]

Who said that?

[dusty dagger]

bit much innit

[boreal eagle]

[mortal jetty]

Anni is in 4 months

Peeps are already caring

[weak drum]

yeah its actually 4

[boreal eagle]

tbh i only care about playable leyla

[round arch]

mid next year maybe

[boreal eagle]

idk when but imma SSS

[weak drum]

inb4 she’s sirin level of good

[mortal jetty]

Daniel biggy whel

[round arch]

DW daniwhel said he gnna fund both of us

[mortal jetty]

Leylay seduced daniel

[round arch]

[mortal jetty]

We are fine then

[formal wigeon]

isn't that october

I guess with how patches are going that's like 2 patches

but I still wouldn't say soon

[normal cloak]

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[acoustic onyx]

this is pretty ass best I get with even an extra basic during transition, and this doesnt even kill clean with extra ult after outburst

also I'm not sure how to save 10 score p1

I get like 932-933

[mortal jetty]

[acoustic onyx]

ive head enough of this unreasonable damage variance, time for horsies thankies anyways

[mortal jetty]

U are welcome raven

[last rapids]

i have to record my run so i dont forget in case this weather comes back

lol

[crude cloak]

||I mean, either Badum or Sushang will get booted before the mf reruns, no?||

Or are you recording for smth specific

[last rapids]

are you sure about that though

thats the thing

well i did it anyway, didnt cap but in case this runs again i have the sauce

[crude cloak]

Sure enough to the point that I wouldn't bother recording
Up to you ofc

Btw, who's the better supp out of Badum and Sushang anyway

[last rapids]

its very situational

there's no bettering

[formal wigeon]

tbh when there'll be 2 characters in half a year I wouldn't necessarily bet on that

[crude cloak]

Obviously there is utility in play like hitcount, I meant who's better buff-wise

[last rapids]

thats also situational

this weather its kiana

but sushang has the utility of being giga fast

[crude cloak]

Actually, lemme check the 8.4's support rot rq

Ah, ye, it can be considered slow in some cases

[dusty dagger]

cough sprout

[crude cloak]

?

Oh lmao

Erm akshually it's 2 different patches 🤓

[dusty dagger]

[strange raft]

Is helia astral ring method in er to spam basic atk, hold atk at full bar, repeat, and ult near the end of SO?

[strange raft]

Also, does she use any of Kevin’s nexus?

[proud shuttle]

how good is helia when support loa?

[crude cloak]

Very solid, but afaik she's not BiS in any comp (in Abyss) unless you specifically need Para/hitcount

[elfin parrot]

wyv has damage charts if you want more precise data, but it's all close that the aspects teammate brought up would be the more deciding factors.

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/BT8QwAnhrR8?si=dldTysms5GUSrvx3 Is 778 possible with damage like this? Like, if I optimized the rotation, could I get around that score?

[crude cloak]

You should probably stay outside of SO in P2 just a lil bit longer, WA + ult should be enough

You don't need to do Sushang's WA in the transition, just the QTE hitting a hat is enough

Your score tanks significantly cuz your buffs run out shortly after SO

[finite barn]

who should be the third for badum team on sss guaymas if no sparkle? put in ely? or use something else

[pale musk]

did you mean inside or outside of SO?

[elfin parrot]

outside

the idea is you're trying to keep your buffs up and mileage from them as much as possible while reducing the amount of times you refresh them

you set up your buffs in transition already but going into outburst early will cause you to refresh the timers early.

Not a problem if you can end the fight with it but if you can't, then setting up buffs again after it ends is just extra actions and wasting time in comparison.

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/BT8QwAnhrR8?si=oGDuuJBMhUiZxQTP I kinda did it, but I messed up the SO. I'll try again soon.

[elfin parrot]

last ten minutes. At this point i rather you focus on what you know and what you can most reliably achieve than getting new feedback

[mortal jetty]

Just for your future rotation... in SO try to qteing with vita after one of the ult your teammate before you ult with the other teammate for more damage... since you are s2 you should abuse your weapon skill as soon as possible

~~ transition was a bit slow~~

From my experience switching to kiana ( in SO) before sus give more damage but the opposite is less damage.. don't ask me why

I was doing less damage when I ulted with sus before badoom

[grizzled tiger]

is my old account salvageable or should i just make a new one? im a returning player

[grizzled ivy]

Is new helia good without her weapon or no

[cunning gull]

your character list consists of characters that are permanently available to farm, im not sure if you have any collectables but regardless i suggest a new account

[half hatch]

every charcter wants their signature weapon

[grizzled tiger]

is there a tier list that i can use to make sure i dont brick my account like i did my old one?

[half hatch]

its always a dmg and utilitly loss with some valks gameplay being completly bricked without it.

[weak drum]

@grizzled tiger

[grizzled tiger]

thank you!

[weak drum]

oh also the tierlist is completely outdated now

this one

[vernal terrace]

Answered that in #👶beginner-help

[weak drum]

do not follow it

[half hatch]

welp

[grizzled tiger]

my friend is gonna send me their characters too could you look over their account to see if they have a bricked account?

[weak drum]

rule of thumb: ask before you pull

dont pull then ask if the valk is good

[grizzled tiger]

use or dont use this one

[weak drum]

.

[grizzled tiger]

oh

wtf am i supposed to use? LOL

[weak drum]

.

budget teams for new players

[grizzled tiger]

alrighty thank you

[weak drum]

nothing usable

[grizzled tiger]

LMFAOO

they should restart too?

[weak drum]

if they want to

[grizzled tiger]

would it be more viable to do so? they have the time

[weak drum]

of course

its way better to restart than playing in whatever that acc is

but if they dont want to then you cant force them

[cunning gull]

the only unobtainable thing here is dreamweaver but still not worth it

[weak drum]

all accounts are salvageable with enough time btw i forgot to mention that

[vernal terrace]

DW really only has two bosses

[cunning gull]

she'll eventually show up again (not worth pulling, just wait for her to be free) so nothing special in here

[vernal terrace]

She might get replaced by then likely

[cunning gull]

yeah she'll

just wanted to say it for personal reasons

[vernal terrace]

Alright

[strange raft]

Can vita support helia?

[weak drum]

can because she’s roo

[strange raft]

I locked my supports and all I have left are her and sushang for sss sampo

[weak drum]

oof

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-gif-21483615

[acoustic mural]

what's t1 for this abyss again

istg if helia is there i will cry

[weak drum]

burb? its bita

[acoustic mural]

oh thank fuck

[weak drum]

inb4 helia t1

[acoustic mural]

i'm already down to like 15 to guarantee

[acoustic mural]

there is no way, if vita type counters birb then helia gets countered

[weak drum]

nuh uh

[acoustic mural]

oh its neutral

still no way helia wins right

[weak drum]

nah

vita with 50% tdm is too stronk

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/oOGsskDm7X0?si=DySb2AyyAvZFjZOt&t=480 My only succesful attempts were at 4:16 and 8, if anyone has some advice, then pls lemme know.

[vernal terrace]

Vita also TC against Sprout (the literal weather also next cycle)

[plucky lotus]

Demooted without helia

[boreal eagle]

if u qte valks at wrong time they get behind the cards and u can't hit anything

should i report this bug

[covert cypress]

in ER, is dudu javelin counted as summoned entity?

[covert cypress]

how about sushang umbrellas?

[cunning gull]

i believe it will be mentioned in the ego signets or her er adjustment if you can check

[edgy hamlet]

Wow sprout again. EZ abyss surely

[rigid cedar]

sleeper abyss, unless nirvana with no aop

[olive flicker]

btw who’s gonna rerun after helia paws

[rigid cedar]

idk who is more important to farm witch shop for

for HoO i at least know the good milestones (S3 and SS), no clue about HoH though

can buy 1 more stamp for HoH in supply shop for now

but idk if thats worth it

[edgy hamlet]

Do you have HoTr as well?

Also I was told SS HoH is the big milestone so that's who I'm going for

[rigid cedar]

SS HoTr yes

[edgy hamlet]

Wait I'm curious, we started around the same time but where did you pick up HoTr? 😅

[rigid cedar]

supply shop stamps, adv stamps and finally the valk from bp

prepared months in advance

because bp is too fucking long

the moment I unlocked the valk, she was SS

[edgy hamlet]

Damn I see. I still don't have HoO or HoTr so I gave up on the trio team

[edgy hamlet]

That's crazy lol

[rigid cedar]

well HoO was a freebie in 7.4

i started the patch before

[edgy hamlet]

I think it required me to do PT2 story and I was adamant it was spoilers since I was still going through PT1

[rigid cedar]

late 7.3, final week of firepower supply and after sena banner went poof

[edgy hamlet]

So I chose to skip the rewards 😭

[rigid cedar]

yea very story focused https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Back_to_Your_Roots

i still chose to do p2 story, with the promise at the time of "no p1 spoilers"

[edgy hamlet]

I mean I started 100% because of the story so I wasn't gonna suddenly change my mind

[rigid cedar]

so did I

became more than that later

[edgy hamlet]

Idk people still say it's not spoilers but I kinda disagree

[rigid cedar]

up to end of ch3?

[half hatch]

It is for HoO dps

Idk about trio

[rigid cedar]

HoO SS is ult demej

ultra big milestone

[mortal jetty]

I would say SS hoh

[edgy hamlet]

Oh ok. I remember on the doggo boss in 8.2, I got absolutely rekt for not having SS HoH in nirv*

Hellmaru

[rigid cedar]

but for what except the occasionial rime boss

okay tbf HoO is even less useful in that case

unless for some IMG bosses

core dmg though..

[neon narwhal]

no hotr, and I don't think they have eden or luna to make HoO work?
unless there's other factors?

[rigid cedar]

Star, i have SS hotr

[neon narwhal]

oh I confused who was the original question

mb

[rigid cedar]

its oki

[half hatch]

Ram big pala whale

[edgy hamlet]

[mortal jetty]

The both are rarely used nowadays... I would take SS hoh over SS hoo ... but yeah the choice is in your hand

[rigid cedar]

its worth it if for the bronya

[half hatch]

~~Y u make me work so hard ~~

[rigid cedar]

i mean how much do ranks matter on ely in comparison

[mortal jetty]

Not a lot but you want atleast SS hoh for dps

Meanwhile when was the last time where we used hoo?

[half hatch]

It's just that everyone and their mother has SS

[rigid cedar]

MA i guess

also flower last patch

[mortal jetty]

Even in MA there are other choice

Ely is more usable in MA than hoo

[half hatch]

7.9 kek

[mortal jetty]

You can cope with her as support on a lot of boss

[half hatch]

At least hoO DPS

[rigid cedar]

okay true, Heph is amongst those?

[mortal jetty]

Yes and you can replace her as a loa support in other team

[half hatch]

And LoA will be dominating MA for let's satz some time lmao

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[half hatch]

They gotta bust out something hilarious to beat LoA tbh

It's just too good for ma

[rigid cedar]

full timestop ring when SO

[mortal jetty]

Yeah if a ring need to replace LOA... the ring will be even stronger with a lot of time stop+ sus ani

[round arch]

When Daniels Leylah comes out, Im sure she will be as good if not better

She be killing all the mobs within a single timestop LMAO

[mortal jetty]

She will break the game

[zealous minnow]

RL follow the guideline from mihoyo? omg...and he is rank1 actually

i guess he have to thanks songque astral op, because without her he not did 21740

[crude cloak]

I mean, that really is the BiS team

[zealous minnow]

I did 21600 with badum-shushang-helia

i don't think coralie is better then helia lol

[crude cloak]

Helia can't support Vita

[zealous minnow]

badum sushang coralie can't be better then badum sushang-helia for me even if coralie here is suggest

[crude cloak]

Yeah, that's true

[zealous minnow]

with Vita ok

aniway i can sleep well this abyss, i can lose 100-200 points

[devout hearth]

What are the best signets in ely realm for Helia? Gold and Kevin?

[zealous minnow]

Eden-Helix

[cunning gull]

check er pins

[zealous minnow]

Helia work on SP

[devout hearth]

Thank you!!!

[cunning gull]

i believe u should do paws leader on this one since u dont have vita

[zealous minnow]

Yep but for first time is ok, no one play today for now

I'm also fine

even if lose 100 trophy

last time 21756 done at rank7 is ok

[cunning gull]

you should be able to retain but yeah its ok

[zealous minnow]

i no want hit nirvana because will just return on RL

you can't stay nirvana with just 3 valk p2

[cunning gull]

even if u demote youll get extra crystals

[hardy elm]

between the 3 builds on the rentry website which is easiest for helia for elysian realm

[cunning gull]

plus youre better off collecting tropies to use in weathers u cant handle

[cunning gull]

easy in which aspect?

as in faster? more braindead?

[hardy elm]

the last part

[zealous minnow]

24140 crystals, if continue like this i can pull next valk also

[cunning gull]

i dont think it matters but u can try the astra ring one since u mostly spam basics

can try with the variable arm buff if u want more dmg

[zealous minnow]

Vita skin again? XD

[hardy elm]

i see ty

[zealous minnow]

Why not skin for new helia?

[cunning gull]

ig too soon

[steady osprey]

1st hoyo need to know if the valk has many simps who willing to pay for her skin

nah im just joking. there are still good free skins like teacher sena

too soon is the right answer

[hoary pebble]

i should be able to easily grab the 8.4 valkyrie and her weapon but should i actually do it? maybe i can just "build pity" and take advantage of the ||mini spending event||?

[half hatch]

Depends on how good the 8.5 valk is and if you can afford her from what we know currently the 8.4 valk holds pretty good value

Things are still subject to change though

We're not even in v3 of the beta

[hoary pebble]

yeah i think i will be able to afford the 8.5 valkyrie even after i roll in 8.4 i should have around 170 pulls by the time 8.4 begins but im a little worried that i wont have enough pulls for the||8.5 spending event||

[crude cloak]

Well, for now she doesn't look skippable

You should be able to afford both 8.4 and 8.5

[iron nimbus]

guys should i be using p2 stigmata on p1 battlesuits? i saw a youtube comment implying I should also I have barely any of the p1 signature stigmata

[crude cloak]

P2 stigs are better than nothing, but they aren't good at all on the valks they're not intended for

Don't go out of your way to craft them just for that tho

[steady osprey]

for economic reason. p1 stigmata cost a lot of material than p2.

[iron nimbus]

should i just use the game recommended stigmata

[steady osprey]

and p1 valk are not worth investing/crafting anymore

[iron nimbus]

i want to tho just bc i like some of them

[crude cloak]

Can you elaborate on who exactly you wanna invest into?

[iron nimbus]

mobius

[crude cloak]

It's fine to do as a side project, but it can't be your main focus

[steady osprey]

if u want just go ahead. but know that u shouldn't

[crude cloak]

Her sig stigs (Linnaeus) are craftable, but getting the weap is not possible for now

[iron nimbus]

all my srank p2 battlesuits are built tho

[steady osprey]

isn't it in reserve work

[crude cloak]

Oh, right

[crude cloak]

Do you have Schicksal's Imperative by any chance

[iron nimbus]

yes

[crude cloak]

Okay, the possible support options are HoTr, LV, GD and SImp
Do you alr have someone except SImp out of this?

Ideally geared ofc

[iron nimbus]

wait whos the last one

sorry i dont know all the acrynoyms

[crude cloak]

Schicksal's Imperative
I just decided to start getting info differently

Keep in mind there is a glossary in #👶beginner-help pins

[iron nimbus]

only GD

[crude cloak]

Okay, then you can use SImp GD as supps for now (GD's sig gear is obtainable as well if you don't have it, EoP from Reserve BP and Handel from Foundry)

HoTr should be added to Reserve relatively soon as well (probably in 8.5), but realistically speaking you can get her from there only if you're buying BPs cuz of the cost

[iron nimbus]

ty

[nova root]

whys the elysian realm guide website full of scam ads now

if i click sometimes i get redirected

[cunning gull]

thats weird, try with an adblock

[quasi pier]

going on the internet without adblock? that's brave

[formal wigeon]

It's just rentry serving ads, nothing the ones who made the page can do about it

[lapis raven]

not brave since brave has built in adblock

[dusty dagger]

[lapis raven]

comp?

[dusty dagger]

I'm in bed

[lapis raven]

so thats a yes right

[dusty dagger]

No

[mortal jetty]

@storm ocean

@storm ocean

[storm ocean]

IM AWAKE

Thank youuu

[mortal jetty]

Np

[round arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAZjjoCMACE