general-feedback-discussion

[karmic plank]

If you are concerned about it giving information you don't want it to give - even if that info is already available to some players - you could make it a minigame like Rust has for mining

[limber hull]

Your hearing mechanic would be cool if it were given to more than just Troodon.

[karmic plank]

So you have to point at this spot near the direction, then this other spot near it, the another spot near it

Rather than it saying "this is exactly where it's coming from, point here"

[crisp stream]

that's not the point at all, I can't control what the devs do to balance it, it's just a suggestion for the mimicking system

[karmic plank]

I think we can assume that Devs will read these chats, or mods will and pass it on, so we are talking as much to them as we are to you

[limber hull]

Honestly, I feel that dinos should be split into sight, hearing and smell and have advantages in those areas

[karmic plank]

An interesting idea, how would you differentiate sight?

[crisp stream]

having a hearing system for all dinos would break immersion, the whole point of the system i suggested is a simple system for memorizing calls that break immersion less than opening a menu

[limber hull]

No, not for all dinos

[crisp stream]

okay

[limber hull]

Only for dinos specifically with good hearing

[karmic plank]

I think the reaction has been pretty positive @crisp stream, just a bit of confusion about why it's considered abusable

[limber hull]

For example, cerato has better smell, troodon has better hearing, dilo has better sight

[crisp stream]

i see that

[karmic plank]

@limber hull How would you mechanise one Dino having better sight than another?

Ones with bad sight could have reduced colour saturation, or maybe distance blur (but that's GPU overhead), or I guess you could force the render quality lower

[paper oriole]

distance blur would be godawful lmao

no thanks

arfificially handicapping players is so dumb

[limber hull]

no, no distance blur

[paper oriole]

also theres 0 reason why a dilo should have better sight at all times than any diurnal animal

it already gets better nocturnal sight

[karmic plank]

You could give some dinos a zoom button I guess, quetz would make sense

[limber hull]

sound makes you able to track sounds easier, smell makes it easier to find tracks and find well, smells, and sight would make it that you respond better to things moving and would make it slightly easier to see creatures.

Yea, a zoom

[paper oriole]

a zoom makes sense for some predators who can utilize binocular vision

no render distance or distance blur bs

that would be horrendous

[karmic plank]

I get what you are going for @limber hull but I don't understand how exactly you would give that in game

Like what would the game do to make that a reality

[limber hull]

absolutely not. Arbitrary nerfs are always bad

If they put some dumb render distance on i would hate it

[karmic plank]

So "sound makes it easier to track sounds easier" how? How does the game make that easier or harder?

Scent is easy, it's all virtualised anyway... But sound and sight is different

[limber hull]

gives you rough areas of location from sound

[karmic plank]

So for me, that wouldn't do anything anyway

[paper oriole]

or perhaps when an animal with the bonus stands still ambient noise hushes a bit to better highlight the noise of other animals

[karmic plank]

I like that, that would work

[paper oriole]

i think a majority of small animals/flight animals could benefit

[karmic plank]

Could make your own footsteps quieter when running after something

Don't get me wrong wave I love the idea it's just that the how is almost more important than the what

[limber hull]

I think standing still should always activate your passive skill, no keybind. A dryo could have sound, making it play into those skittish scout natures it's supposed to have

[karmic plank]

Maybe dinos with enhanced sight could get some alpha highlighting of other dinos, like those food bushes always seem to get

[limber hull]

Yea, like that

[paper oriole]

assuming it wont highlight players through foliage or be as awful as the deino radar it may work

god the deino radar is an eyesore

[karmic plank]

Yeah I really don't like it, the net effect is neat but the implementation is a bit...

Rushed

I don't think you should be able to see through anything, or have access to more information, it just makes using that sense easier and faster

Maybe a Dino that is meant to have super good hearing could get some little visual effect for things sprinting near them, but you'd need to tune it very carefully to stop it being OP

[paper oriole]

having ambient sounds hushed and animal sounds more clear should do it well enough. visuals seem like something that would be in a hard-of-hearing setting where the actual sound is muted

as far as scent goes, maybe it can highlight items of interest in a short radius passively whenever you arent sprinting, and you can smell your preferred diet foods form further away/they last longer on screen. idk

[karmic plank]

I like the idea of highlighting preferred foods, like a cat smelling out a mouse from all the other scents around

[paper oriole]

The enhanced scent can be sort of like the witcher senses that highlights corpses, blood, tracks, preferred plants if you’re an herbi in a fixed radius

[limber hull]

Yep

[tight lantern]

I like it. I prefer the lit outline as well rather than a huge solid glowing orb or whatnot

[paper oriole]

Yeah the deno radar glowing blue fart bubble ring is just awful to see lmao

[limber hull]

Honestly, I'd put water sense as the fourth option

[karmic plank]

I'd definitely like to see watersense reworked, and also let them have some ability to "see" footsteps near the banks in exchange for no longer being able to swim underwater with camera above

[tight lantern]

I'd also kind of like scent and tracks to be two separate things/mechanics/skills, but this would probably be difficult and time consuming create

[severe idol]

@pure fossil
There is no intention for Rules on the Official Servers, however if you want to be a server admin, you must first be a Discord Moderator for a while. I'll attach a link to the submission from here.
https://forms.gle/LGnkR8Yab9dEDSQi7

[pure fossil]

Thanks @severe idol for your clarification. So this time Official Servers will have any kind of rule? Well easier for admins then hahaha.
Again thanks for your answer

[severe idol]

It's intentional that there are not rules beyond the restriction of foul/abrasive language and hacking.

[upper summit]

why did my feedback get removed?

[paper oriole]

Wasnt herrera already shown to have those two abilities in bis concept art

[wicked furnace]

Yeah

Literally

[odd sedge]

Herra sleeping in trees kind of makes me want Austros to sleep in wading-deep water like flamingos or cranes

[tawny juniper]

That would probably make you pretty easy to spot and attack as opposed to being in a bush/forest

[crisp stream]

why do people suggest the concept art

[odd sedge]

You can still lay down in bushes and hide.
It would just enable to rest Austros to rest in water where they normally live at the risk of getting spotted easier

[tawny juniper]

@dark plinth what do you dislike

[dark plinth]

because i can? also dont feel like cameras should be fucked with. its annoying when you cant see anything and if grazing becomes mandatory with diets i dont want to sit and be trying to grow as a baby with a bad enough camera angle already. all anyone plays is carni too and its usually 75% of the server. carnis have enough advantages

[tawny juniper]

You won't not be able to see anything, it just lowers your camera so you can't see all around while your head is lowered in the grass, If I'm correct devs have said something about camera angle being fixed, and what advantages do carnis have

nobody said you couldn't dislike I'm asking you for feedback

I feel like I generally hear people complain more about carnis than herbis so I'd assume community opinion is herbivores have more advantages

And grazing is literally free food for herbis so there should be some downsides like decreased vision range so you're more susceptible to attacks

To me it just sounds like a herbi main who doesn't want herbi nerfs

[dark plinth]

herbis dont have any nerfs and im not even a herbi main lmfao. camera angles rn are a struggle in general, especially on small dinos and fucking with it just is annoy as if when at times you can barely see as if.

grazing isnt even that good either, you practically starve yourself and just eat up to 20%, which is pretty stressful when sometimes, you cant find buahes or grass travelling through certain places. why even be mad at herbis having grazing?? lmfao, theyre fucking herbivores, they eat PLANTS. grazing isnt something that can be abused and hardly even matters in the game currently

if its a priority for diets, then cool ig but i dont want my camera zooming in and out when trying to eat. thats like carnis eating their food and their camera zooms in.

i didnt even want to discuss either, so dont ping me for it. some people just dislike certain concepts and have their reason but dont rlly want to get into it since most conversations here end in arguements

so k, thanks. leave me be

[feral solstice]

@wicked furnace

Music may or may not make a debut in update 4

[wicked furnace]

Alright thanks.

[haughty forge]

Grazing is already used in last moment and very few, why make it totally unwanted by making it even less appealing?

I mean we have a zoom for hypsi spit... and it's hell especially if you run in grass because you lose your target wito the grass even if they are taller than you, or can't anticipate because of the zoom and terrible angle

[tawny juniper]

I pinged you because I wanted your feedback, no need to be rude

[tawny juniper]

Grazing isn't supposed to be good, But it makes it so herbivores literally can't starve - something carnis don't have, you could compare it to carnis if they had bodies that randomly dropped out of the sky making it impossible to starve

[urban flax]

Seeing this just made my day

[tight lantern]

👍

[oblique drift]

Protoceratops looks amazing

[dense vale]

ya ponds were very important. mostly not even for drinking, but as waypoints of navigation, places where you can meet or hunt others, a place to nest, giving people places to travel between checking out different water areas, which also creates foot traffic in the voids between them.

i dont see any benefit from miles of no ponds

[icy lion]

@cosmic trellis #isle-discussion message

[cosmic trellis]

thanks lol

been wondering for awhile now

[manic flint]

@ebon girder Love the pictures, and the idea

[dawn gulch]

@stone bone
The purpose of the weekly status updates aren’t to give up info, but instead to offer a sneak peak as to what is coming.
The monthly recaps are for the info dumps.
Also not sure what you mean by “relatively no information”, you just got the first look at compsognathus in-game.

[barren zephyr]

@muted matrix Bruh the Ptera is absolutely fine. I play it all the time it's broken in s good way if anything

[paper oriole]

Ptera is fine unless youre trying to leave orbit like a moron lol

Pteras can fight midair, swoop ground level animals and fish just fine with their current stam

[hoary dawn]

ptera is fine, but it could be so much better

i do hope the flight system gets reworked sometime

[barren zephyr]

killing my own

[hoary dawn]

as for stam, yea no ptera can cross the entire map twice without landing if you manage it right

[barren zephyr]

Lol. I can get from West to east like 3 times without stopping

It's kinda OP tbf

[hoary dawn]

its the spectator playable rn, if anything it needs more reasons to land so you have stuff to actually do

[barren zephyr]

Main reasons to land are for eating skimmed up fish, drinking, and resting which are all reasonable for something that is supposed to be able to escape and not fight stuff

[hoary dawn]

yes

but only one of those requires you to be in a vulnerable position, you can eat and rest in a tree or on a rock

[muted matrix]

Well idk because I can’t seem to fly without descending hard even if I’m not pressing anything and when I try to balance out I use a ton of my stam.

[paper oriole]

Sounds like you just dont know how to fly, let go of your keys sometimes lol

If you look down using the forward key thats the issue

[muted matrix]

I do. There’s literally no tutorial what do you expect.

[paper oriole]

Well now you know

[hoary dawn]

it takes a bit of practice but once you get a feel for it ptera stam management is easy

[muted matrix]

I just can’t make sense of it. I’ll try it again another time maybe.

[hoary dawn]

i do agree the game does need some form of tutorial

[karmic plank]

Baby ptera can't fly at all really - like baby birds. Afk in a bush until you get to a juvy and you will have a much easier time.

Start at the north or north east spawn and when ready head south, you will have a lot of elevation to help learn flight

I'm happy to tutor pteras as well, helped a few people learn all the ins and outs. There's probably some YouTube tutorials out there as well.

[paper oriole]

juvi ptera can fly enough to escape if a predator sees it, and that's all it needs

[muted matrix]

I actually only play as adults most of the time bc of the servers I’m in with points for grows and whatnot, and it’s still very difficult to figure out

[urban bear]

@cedar pulsar People farming food off the compys wont be an issue because they wont be part of anythings diet path.

[paper oriole]

Diets are apparently going to be a lot more forgiving for carnis, so if compies give enough food people will farm them

So they should just not be worth it

[urban flax]

Looks like when you get one, the rest scatters so you won't be able to catch more than one. Also they'll probably take much longer than seen in the video to appear around a corpse, so killing and eating them probably won't be a viable strategy anyways
But I agree they should give pretty much no food

[karmic plank]

You might have a wonky controller plugged in - The Isle will happily control using controller (gamepad or joystick) and keyboard/mouse simultaneously. I'm happy to help so DM if you want the full spiel (just because this isn't really the channel to work through it).

[karmic plank]

Hypsi are already not worth it, people will chase them because their fun, as solo babies, or when they are really starving (like herbis grazing). Kinda like dieno and the little schooling fish I imagine.

[paper oriole]

Compy is even less worth it than hypsi, and its less fun to chase something useless down when it is most likely an ai. I have seen whole utah packs go after a single hypsi but it's really just fun to kill players

It isnt so much fun to waste time chasing down some ai the size of a rat for 0 gain because there is no satisfaction of killing a player

[hoary dawn]

i dont imagine a compy would give enough food for it to be worth it to farm them

[karmic plank]

Much the same as the little schooling fish, except even less so seeing as they are 1/8th the weight

[paper oriole]

i hope they add wildlife photographers so i have some more helpless victims to eat

[limber hull]

now all i want to do is play merc like a very afraid David Attenborough

[warm flame]

I wonder if mercs will have cameras

you're a carno walking around and suddenly a horde of wildlife photographers start swarming you and taking pictures till you're blinded and you have to run

[karmic plank]

tourists! they land somewhere by helicopter, wander around for a bit taking photos - maybe on elevated walkways - then cruise off, so it's like a limited time world-event

herbivores maybe can get little handouts of treats that give them buffs, carnivores could get some easy meals (but it ends the event once they get attacked)

[paper oriole]

with how modern herbivores act i wouldnt be surprised if a trike or brachi would just straight up snack on a human for fun if it was dumb enough to try to give it a treat

know what, they should let brachi eat humans. just do it

[karmic plank]

I like the idea of an event that can benefit some but others are keen just to crash it and have some fun

someone will need to make a GTA mod that gives you a wanted level for eating tourists, and AI hunters that try to find you and shoot you

[urban flax]

@bleak atlas What do you mean by getting trample "back" ?
It was never implemented

[bleak atlas]

@urban flax It was in Legacy or?

Cama has it for sure

[urban flax]

Doesn't cama just have a stomp ability ?

If it was in legacy I wasn't aware of it
You can just phase through anything, that's why Utahs can assride and kill rexes

[paper oriole]

Cama and hyper spino have trample in Legacy afaik

Dont think anything else does

It only happens when sprinting

[bleak atlas]

Yup, but it did exist

[urban flax]

I wasn't aware of that

[paper oriole]

Easy thing to miss if you don’t mess around camas a lot

Would be nice to see trample come in evrima after they fix desync up

[barren zephyr]

hopefully a lot better compared to how it originally was

[urban flax]

@karmic plank That seems extremely complicated for a mere hunger mechanic
Also dinos won't get fat, according to a dev

[karmic plank]

I explained it very verbosely, but it's not really that complicated

in fact it's actually simpler than my understanding of the diet system

[urban flax]

Do we need a more complex mechanic anyways ?

Because eating=good, not eating=bad seems enough for gameplay

Without needing energy distribution, body fat, additionnal hidden bars and stat changes

Or you can have stat changes, but directly tied to your hunger bar condition
And even that I'm not a fan of

[karmic plank]

the main takeaways is I'd like you to get skinny before you take damage

most of it will be fairly intuitive to most people I feel

moreso than "you need more lipids less carbs"

[wraith grove]

Is there a place that has the available admin commands?

[ebon girder]

Thanks

[molten tulip]

I could see if instead of a new stat system that drains, instead your diet bar thing drains until it hits the lowest level and then you start taking starvation damage

It would encourage animals to follow their diet even more while still making sense (generally starving is not a good dietary choice lol)

A dino following a crappy diet would starve faster than one following a good diet

[karmic plank]

The thing that I noticed when playing a bunch of carno was it was very boom/bust - you'd get heaps of food, way more than you could eat... Then nearly starve, then heaps of food again. Being able to stock up a bit during the boom to make it through the bust would be nice. Basically let you go longer without food without actually reducing the hunger requirements or giving them a huge stomach

Especially for things like Cerato which, if the scavengers many seem to hope for, will need to feast like a king when they find food and then potentially go hungry for a long time afterwards

[tight briar]

Is something being done about the lag and rubber banding in the game? It's gotten really bad.

[urban flax]

yes

[swift dew]

@barren zephyr maybe an aim for herra, but utah should not get it. you already get teleported to the side of the creature you pounced on, utahs don't need anything else to make it easier to land a pounce

[tight briar]

Alright, thank you.

[barren zephyr]

Yeah i thinked than herrera would be better for a aim than utah

[odd sedge]

I don't see how Herra would be viable with jumping around in trees without being able to aim jumps properly

[honest sparrow]

Utah shouldn’t get a true aim for its pounce but the fucking teleporting and pouncing when you hit the tail, or the head of something like stego or carno is just why, utahs should have to think a bit more when they use pounce, not hit 2 pixels of my tail and suddenly be on top of my body ripping me to shreds

[solar latch]

I think I saw punch say something about the pounce being reworked a bit

[swift dew]

@tame jetty you do know that those are unintentional right? its impossible to test every nook and crany for a spot that is going to kill you in a map that you made if you want a map update to come in reasonable time

[urban bear]

@kindred flare farming infinite food wont be a problem with the compsy because they wont be part of anythings diet

[pulsar lake]

But you still can eat them

[kindred flare]

Yeah just saw that

[bleak atlas]

They dont really give food and if they are super bad for your diet its not worth eating them

[ashen wasp]

Hypsi female having shorter tail feathers I can understand, but the actual meat-and-bone tail is used as a vital counterbalance, especially for an animal that leaps around and spends a considerable amount of time in trees

Also, I sorta thought the point of basing the male model on a King of Saxony bird of paradise would mean that the brow display feathers would be what changes from male to female.

Keeping the long display feathers on the tail of the female also makes sense for a couple of reasons— Hypsi’s tail is the visual indicator for its charged jump— keeping the size of that tell consistent between the sexes makes sense gameplay-wise. Also, the tail is a prominent feature in the stationary threaten animation, leading me to believe it’s meant to play a roll in intimidation— females would then be at a disadvantage from a lore standpoint if their tail fan were reduced

[molten tulip]

^

[pulsar lake]

If it is the case

[karmic plank]

I'd also like to see a few species with the sexual dimorphism favouring the female, not just the male. It's a bit moot with the skin customisation coming, but when we start talking model changes like extra feathers or spines or such...

[molten tulip]

It really shouldn't be one looking cooler, rather theyre both unique for different reasons

What i liked about the hypsi dimorphism design is the gray markings and stipple being used to create a look that appeals to people who like monochrome or muted colors

While if someone wants something flashy they can choose the gold

[short grotto]

I can totally understand not wanting to change the tail fan size. However, my opinion on color difference stands.

I also understand people not wanting brighter colors favoring the male, but when you think about sexual dimorphism in the real world it makes sense. Take pheasants for example; the female is an off white color with a small tail and grey spots. The male, however, has brighter colors and bigger feather. The male is also bigger than the female.

I used to be against males getting the pretty colors but once you look at the bigger picture it makes way more sense.

[molten tulip]

Its the same way for real animals, for example male cardinals are appealing if youre looking for completely bright red animals, while female cardinals are cool if you want a natural color with red highlights and black markings

Well yeah in most irl animals males have the flashy colors and females have the more practical ones

[fallen path]

What do you guys think of my suggestion?

[molten tulip]

The eating one?

Imo eating is perfect rn, long enough to where you're vulnerable but not so long that you're falling asleep

Especially considering it takes a few seconds to cancel out of it I think it doesn't need change

[short grotto]

I’m not against females having bright colors but keep in mind that males have bright colors mostly for mating purposes

[karmic plank]

Not all species are that way though, and some are the opposite - it's less from a realism point of view and more just gender equality haha

[molten tulip]

Females don't need bright colors to be interesting

[short grotto]

Yeah

If they both are colorful then there will be no difference, thus ruining the point of a female model

[molten tulip]

Muted natural colors but cool patterns

[short grotto]

I’d also like if females were smaller than males but idk if the devs will do that or not

[short grotto]

Cuz in the wild some females are smaller than males

Not always tho

[molten tulip]

There will be no size difference or stat difference in the game, just patterns

[compact hare]

Im pretty sure they deconfirmed different sizes

[short grotto]

In my art I depicted the female hypsi to have the same markings as the male, just greyscale. The difference other than color is she didn’t have any tail markings

[short grotto]

I can understand no stat difference but a size difference would add a bit more dimorphism

[molten tulip]

Yeah I appreciate that it isn't just solid black or something

Which a lot of people tend to do when they're not using references

[short grotto]

I thought about solid black but I didn’t like how plain it was

[molten tulip]

Only thing is the tail fan size but otherwise good

[short grotto]

I might do my idea for some other dinos. I thought about changing the Dino pattern altogether but I decided to stick to the main concept just for simplicity

[short grotto]

Yeah other people were against it which I understand. It was merely an idea, not something I thought was needed

I took most of my inspiration from peacocks and pheasants which is where I got the tail idea from

But when people mentioned it was used for jumping and whatnot, I get why the female having a smaller tail would present a disadvantage

[molten tulip]

Yeah thats the only reason

Otherwise it would make sense

[short grotto]

Yeah

I think ima do a teno next

I’m picking some of my favorite dinos first

[molten tulip]

That'll be a challenge since teno doesn't really have much pattern

Just countershading

[short grotto]

Well the male has darker colors and some blue on the tail while the female doesn’t

[molten tulip]

It does?

[short grotto]

Mhm

There is dimorphism for tenos

[molten tulip]

Never noticed

[short grotto]

I get it may be hard to do it for teno cuz like you said there’s not a proper pattern but

Maybe I can put an idea for some colors or something idk

[karmic plank]

Custom skins will probably make it all moot anyway

[short grotto]

I personally don’t like that the male gets black and whatnot, I think it’d look fine on the female

I personally like the male skin more cuz of the black giving gloves and I think socks

So I may imprint that on the female but I’d just give the male more obvious highlights

Cuz they’re not really obvious

It makes me feel special seeing my idea has 35 upvotes and only 1 downvote

@molten tulip Did you put an X cuz of the small tail idea?

[molten tulip]

yeah

I'll just remove it tbh thats just a small detail

[short grotto]

You don't have to, I was just curious cuz ik you mentioned being against the tail thing

[sour crescent]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DS_qM_rFEb-bNl1Sl2ReCqnDI4oJ0FDJ4iGPJInu2gU/edit

models for anyone wanting to make a suggestion

before you shit on the models, some of the models are just placeholders!

[paper oriole]

Are they really thinking of adding meese? Holy shit they really want free food for mid tiers dont they

Moose and cow… may as well add jwe style carnivore feeding stations at this point lmao

[limber hull]

Is meese even a word

[paper oriole]

Probably not but to me it is

Goose geese moose meese

Free food

[limber hull]

i have to agree

i was sold on goats and crabs and turtles

but cows and meese(moose whatever)

that's literally like a food platter

hopefully cows and moose are only on the diets of larger animals

[paper oriole]

How is a moose going to survive a 2ton predator that runs at 60km/h and everything else

[urban flax]

I guess the biggest prey animals will be kinda rare ?

[paper oriole]

Also isnt it a tropical island

[limber hull]

Moose seem native to redwood if anything

[urban flax]

Like cows only around mercenary bases and mooses only hidden in forests or mountains ?

[paper oriole]

Kinda disruptive to immersion, meese living on a tropical island filled with genetically enhanced superpredators and competing against multi-ton berbivores

[limber hull]

Yea...

I don't get moose

[paper oriole]

They would go extinct very fast realistically

[limber hull]

crabs, chickens, boars and turtles made a lot more sense

[urban flax]

Yeah I'm not a fan of mooses either
I wonder what devs have planned with them, hope they won't just be free food lying around

[limber hull]

hell, even goats made more sense

[paper oriole]

That would be pretty disappointing, ill just keep my hopes and expectations low. Such a random animal to pick

[urban flax]

Maybe since some of their models are bought ones (I think) they bought them in a batch and got cows and meese with them but don't intend on implementing them ?

[paper oriole]

Whats next, grizzly bears?

[limber hull]

but moose literally ONLY exist in cool environments

[paper oriole]

That could be the case… hopefully

[urban flax]

I looked it up on the internet
The plural of moose is moose

[limber hull]

i mean

they have foxes planned apparently

[urban flax]

Foxes are viable tho

[paper oriole]

I refuse to accept this cruel truth

[limber hull]

but even those could survive with the chickens lying around

[paper oriole]

It will always be meese

[urban flax]

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/moose-plural/

[limber hull]

moose literally are just

what the fuck

[paper oriole]

I bet some lazy allosaurus player that deserves to starve would be thrilled to see a moose

Too easy food

Its like gourmet ava

[odd sedge]

Moose are actually pretty hardcore. It's just not going to bother a gigantic dinosaur who can just clap them

[urban flax]

Moose can run to 56 km/h actually
Only carnos could catch one

(according to google)

mammals are way faster than dinos for some reason

[azure wadi]

Moose are cool

[azure wadi]

Well gotta have some way of stopping dinosaurs from taking over again

[karmic plank]

I think moose is one of the few which is faster... Horses top out at 48 km/hr

[urban flax]

I searched on the net, according to the different sources they can go up to 70 km/h
I guess it depends wether they're being chased by a 2 ton predator or not

And the faster horse ever was nearly 90

[karmic plank]

True, I don't have a reputable source beyond first google result, and it sounded about right

A few different sites back up the 70-90 kph in full sprint, so maybe that's accurate

[tame jetty]

@barren zephyr for the draggin, cant they just add ''that if u want to go quicker while draggin something, you just use sprint and that way u use more stammina like you suggest but you dont have to go drag on slider. Same thing for when going slower, that can just be normal draggin without using sprint, and then u dont use any stammina''..?

[barren zephyr]

Well yeah, that also works. More simple but same goal. I would be okay with both solution honestly.

I just hate the fact that I struggle to drag a body that 10 times lighter than me,.

[tame jetty]

Yeah, i wouldn't personally want a slider to have to go work on manually :D rather just quick and simple solution

[tame jetty]

Yeah i agree on that, i usually just stay by the bodies or leave em. Too slow to get nowhere aha

[buoyant lantern]

When I say dodge the springs I mean dodge em. There is springs like the prismatic, however they are much smaller and in random spots. They are often small and falling into one will ruin your day. Here’s a few more examples. All of these pictures were taken by me.

[stray holly]

I think it’d be better for the devs to tweak with the standard dragging speed based on weight difference rather than having a meter to adjust.

@barren zephyr

Also, does anyone know the parameters for a carnos ability to knock something over? Like, the thing has to be x amount below the carnos own weight to knock it over?

[still raptor]

@upper summit Legacy has an entirely different atmosphere than Evrima. Yes, I agree that the music is really nice, but it doesn't fit the atmosphere Evrima has.

[upper summit]

how can u know this?

wdym atmosphere it's a dino island and the track is called dino island

fits really well when ur in a trike herd

[stray holly]

I think it’ll feel a lot more fitting when Evrima’s entire map is unlocked and there’s portions of it similar to V3’s design.

[plucky aurora]

Im thinkng: When spawning dinos, like the deino that spawns in water, pteranodons spawn on high rocks rather than the ground.

[stray holly]

People never like my suggestions

[urban flax]

For instance, this one is too much a jurassic park reference and doesn't make sense

Goats are way too small to feed a rex unless they're handfed to it regularly. In the game they're probably gonna inhabit mountains and be almost impossible to catch for a rex.

[stray holly]

I’d think they’d be more common around human facilities.

And, they don’t need to feed the Rex. I’m looking at it as more of a point system than a survival system.

[urban flax]

Why would something that cannot fill your stomach be a part of your diet ?

And also, rex just won't be able to catch them

[stray holly]

Because you’ve already made it to adulthood. You’ve done the right things to get to that point. Now to become something out of the ordinary, you need to accomplish something out of the ordinary.

[urban flax]

Then make it something that would benefit rex gameplay and be achievable
Like killing very big prey

And still, your only reason behind this idea seems to be a JP reference. You need a bit more than that to have people support your idea.

[odd sedge]

Too much Jurassic park for my taste, sorry

[stray holly]

Yeah. It was more for the reference than anything else lmao.

[stray holly]

What do you think would be a good system to get to elder, other than this?

[urban flax]

I'd say the opposite. Following your diet and keep eating your favorite prey when possible. So to become an elder as a rex, you'd need to eat trikes and shants.

[stray holly]

And to become a Hypo?

[urban flax]

Eat a colossus(or an Eyeless ?) or another hyper

But I'm only trying to guess

[stray holly]

That’d require for someone to have started the generations of hypos on that server though.

[urban flax]

Or for strains to also appear as AIs

[stray holly]

Unless they wanna start the chain of player hypos with an AI one.

Yeah that’d make sense.

[urban flax]

Honestly, I'd be fine with strains being AI only
But I understand a lot of players would want to play them

So do I, although I'd still like it if they were AI only

[stray holly]

I feel like it’d be a wasted opportunity.

A player Hypo would know exactly where to look for people to kill.

[urban flax]

Depends on what you want to do with them
If they are just here to destroy things and be targets for other things, they don't need to be player-controlled
If they can provide engaging and fun gameplay, then yes, better make them playable

But I'm pretty sure they're planned to be playable anyway

[stray holly]

Yeah. That’s probably way down the road though.

[upper summit]

bruh

the whole game is a JP reference

the utah model & sounds

the uninspired lore

rex calls

genetically modifying dinos?

[wild verge]

Personally Id prefer less jp feeling, but its actually pretty smart of dondi to go for that feel. Outside of dinosaur lovers, the general public would be more attracted to a dinosaur game if it looks more like something they recognize aka jurassic park

[meager tiger]

@fallen path these are reptile/bird like creatures and the thing is these type of animals don't chew so it's expcted they eat faster

[fallen path]

I mean that it should be like legacy

[fallen path]

@meager tiger

[silver zephyr]

not sure if its a domestic goat

looks like a chamois which is a mountain goat iirc

[steep warren]

In the stream there was mountain goat and barn goat.

[silver zephyr]

ah

[steep warren]

Hope they get rid of barn goat and just go with mountain

[silver zephyr]

dont see why we cant have both

[steep warren]

I feel like chicken and barn goat r too.... dont know they just dont feel rightt running in the forest

[silver zephyr]

they may not be near forests, they could be near human structures, even then its not hard to believe that the goats and sheeps escaped from said humans and ran off

[steep warren]

UNLESS tribals or mercs have cattle (Chickens lay eggs for food, goats for meat)

(https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/858317237877342218)

Apart from that I like the idea of boars and I really like sea turtles and hope crabs will be in next stream soon

[pulsar lake]

Is it me

or no one knows how particules work?

It isn't because a steak is older that the distance you will scent it will be superior.

It looks to be but it only is more intense. Particules are transported by the fluids like air or water and so in order to smell something, you need to catch them through those fluids.

Like, if there is someone cooking an beefsteak and the wind goes into the opposite direction of you, you won't be able to smell it even if it must smell good.

Also. Tbh I feel like Ava doesn't need to be upsized in order to fight Utahraptor sized predators, even with its lack of speed.

It could possibly break a bit its bones by biting and headbutting but maybe not kill it. Also I'd say that Ava could be a nocturnal pro camouflage animal able to dig into the forest floor in order to create mud pits so it can roll in them in order to mask its scent.

[sonic cloud]

@unreal ridge @night sand shall we also remove like 50% of the playable roster because not all of them lived in a tropical jungle. Shall we also remove all the animals that didn’t live together?
Why is it that a Moose in a jungle the thing that crosses the “rEaLiSm” line in a game with animals from all over the world and from the Triassic, Jurassic & Cretaceous in a game where the devs have passed off an inbred malformed Albertosaurus as a regular Albertosaurus and with giant mutant strain kaiju dinosaurs why is a Moose in a jungle problematic?

[hoary dawn]

i mean the dinosaurs aren't exactly on the island naturally

[sonic cloud]

And the Moose are?

[hoary dawn]

idk too much about the lore, but i doubt ae is out here cloning moose alongside dinosaurs

[sonic cloud]

Why would they need to clone an extant species when they can literally go grab a couple hundred from Canada

?

[hoary dawn]

why would they put moose on the island at all

[indigo crystal]

how do i download Legacy and Evrima at the same time, wheni open legacy it says i cant connect to the steam system,

[sonic cloud]

@hoary dawn why would they clone dinosaurs? Why would they bring goats?
Why would they clone some dinosaurs inaccurate and some super accurate?

The answer to all those questions including your own is: “videogame”

Mindblowing right?

[hoary dawn]

i am very sure there is an actual reason for the cloning of dinosaurs in the game's lore, and goats can be boiled down to either mass produced food for the dinos, or just naturally occuring on the island. moose however do not have a clear place to fit

it being a videogame doesn't mean they should add things that dont make sense in-universe

[weak dune]

Moose really do not make sense at all.

For one, moose aren't really adapted to hot, humid tropical climates.

And even if they were or could be made to adapt to the environment, they are really not human-friendly. Like, at all. Moose are very aggressive and dangerous to humans. There'd be no reason to keep them like cattle and no reason to introduce them for any other reason. Any humans bringing moose with them for whatever reason would just be shooting themselves in the foot when they're already keeping an island full of dangerous, giant dinosaurs to content with.

Other deer species, maybe. Not so much moose.

[unreal ridge]

look man , i would just say add animals that would be native to a tropical island before the dinosaurs were put on the island , i would the NATURAL FAUNA TO BE REALISTIC but not genetically modified dinosaurs , i only asked a for a small bit of realism on the fact of the species on the island that arent dinosaurs , i think it would be more immersive seeing the natural animals that live there , that seeing the generic , moose , wolf , elk , boar , bear , etc in a tropical rainforest

i feel it would be better to me more immersed in game you know?

goats , chickens and wild boar can all be explained on the island , easy food for the mercenaries also farm pigs when released into the wild just turn back into boars so another explanation

[hoary dawn]

by the logic that anything can be added because its a videogame, why not add polar bears? or sharks that just flop around on land until they die?

[weak dune]

There are really just so many options of stuff they could add that would be realistic that its a bit silly to plop down non-native species just because... some people think they're cool or see them as "default" animals for some reason? Even though they're really not

Certain species that often become "invasive" are fine because as we can see historically, they can adapt to basically anywhere and do it better than the natives. Hence the "invasive" part

Goats, pigs, chickens, and rabbits are all good examples

[unreal ridge]

some species would be natural fauna other would be invasive , like rats , pigs , goats , rabbits , insect types , etc

[weak dune]

Exactly

Native mountain goats, swamp / forest deer, wild boars, and some bird species like herons, gulls, etc I could easily see

Maybe some wild dogs, but not actual wolves

But bears and moose? C'mon

[unreal ridge]

instead of wolves they could do more inspired things like dholes , or maned wolves

[karmic plank]

So many people forgetting that suggestions for AI should go in #ai-feedback

[unreal ridge]

no thats for talking about AI in the game currently

talking about bugs , what needs to be fixed , etc

[karmic plank]

Ive not ever seen that stated by a reputable source

[unreal ridge]

go to AI-feedback

and look at the top

[karmic plank]

I just did, it doesn't support your statement

[unreal ridge]

feedback for all AI IN Evrima

so far goats , boar , chickens , etc arent in

so it doesnt fit the description

[icy lion]

ai suggestions fit in #ai-feedback

the wording neednt be taken so literally

[unreal ridge]

but like how do we talk about something that isnt in the game , they want feedback

[icy lion]

theyre fine in #general-feedback as well, so its nbd either way

[karmic plank]

Alright, I'll stop whinging about it too

[icy lion]

all of the feedback channels function as dual feedback and suggestion outlets

the ai and balance channels cater more towards feedback compared to #general-feedback

[plucky aurora]

@stuck bison Living in an area that gets flash flooding and major floods, I agree, plus even our creeks with plant life, don't get drowned out. So they wouldn't have to really change anything graphically.

We have a creek with grass, all sorts of plants and trees, where it forms ponds along the bed. When it floods, the plant life doesn't go anywhere, and after a week, it goes away, and it's still all there.

[stuck bison]

Yeah but for ease just having those dry creeks and not dealing with trying to add movement to plant life that wouldn't have it otherwise and stuff. I mean to make it believeable with plants involved you need the plants pushed by the river vs when there is no river to push it, and that'd be a pain in the butt to program. But just full dry creek beds with rocks like the ones that naturally occure and exist, that's easier to handle.

[plucky aurora]

That's true.

We have a dry creek like that

Panther Canyon, is a rocky bed with some trees.

[stuck bison]

We have a lot of them all over here in montana. I have no doubt they are a world wide occurrence.

[plucky aurora]

This is when it flooded one year (The creek with ponds in teh bed)

[stuck bison]

Yeah. I know with flash flooding plant life can survive. I think their biggest issue is the complex programming and trying to adjust plant movement vs water height and how taxing that may be on performance at the end of the day.

[plucky aurora]

Yeah

I would like to see the stream idea you made

[stuck bison]

Yeah I would too. Hopefully it may be something the devs consider.

[plucky aurora]

And moderate flooding >.>

Things like this too!

[night sand]

because nobody has seen dinosaurs, but we have seen moose. People that arent paleonerds can see that it doesnt belong

[karmic plank]

The Isle is set in modern time, and the dinosaurs were bred/created/engineered, just like a certain popular movie franchise. Pigs and goats have followed people just about everywhere that colonials have traveled - horses and camels, too - but moose?

[stuck bison]

well Amarok also did say some of the animals were place holders so the moose may very well be replaced. Cause yeah, outside of some Lore storyline explanation, it just does not belong what so ever which kills the 'realism' element they're going with their environments.

I mean lore wise they could have used the moose as a test subject for how to make an animal that would otherwise survive only in colder environments be able to handle the tropics, as a lead in to how they managed to solve making the dinos that wouldn't have naturally lived in the area able to once they hatched them. I mean THAT could be a reasonable approach with it honestly. But outside of that type of lore reasoning, it makes no sense.

[karmic plank]

It was probably just another asset that came with the other critters as a pack from the UE store, and is (as you said) just a placeholder for some other big feed critter

I think it's still good for people to make their opinion of it as a future asset clear

[past dune]

i think itd be a good idea to let unofficial servers to have the option to let a few ai's playable

[weak dune]

If you're talking about dinosaurs, they already are. AI are just non-player playables

[past dune]

i dont think letting a few ai's is a bad idea though

[karmic plank]

I can just see admins running around as a pig or a goat sorting out peoples complaints

[past dune]

wouldnt that be funny tho lol

[karmic plank]

OINK what appears to be the problem here

[barren zephyr]

@still raptor would that be for everynight?
Or like a once in a fullmoon type of event/situation

it looks wonderful, just not sure on how well it would work at night time for nocturnal hunters like Dilo

[still raptor]

Full moon

[barren zephyr]

good. Wouldn't be bad

[halcyon spire]

Taco Island gives Admin commands to all players to test stuff out and Practice on dinos

[paper oriole]

quetz didnt hunt magy

also cerato will hutn magy

and everything else will kfs it

[fervent fable]

Oh lol I thought those little saurapods in the documentary were Magy lol

[paper oriole]

you are thinking of hatzegopteryx

a different azhdarchid

[fervent fable]

Ooohhh

Thanks for the info

[paper oriole]

id assume quetz would be mor epvp oriented than ptera though, an adult magy would probably be too much for it if it got hit though

[fervent fable]

Yeah I agree

[upper summit]

when ceras 4 call sounds more intimidating than its 3 call

[sour crescent]

@fallow spoke waste of time and resources

[fallow spoke]

Ok

[fallow spoke]

Ok

[sour crescent]

So you agree?

[fallow spoke]

No

[sour crescent]

Why you spam ok

[fallow spoke]

No

[sour crescent]

What?

[fallow spoke]

I forgor inglish

[sour crescent]

Ok

You forgor

[fallow spoke]

Sorry, forgot I wasn't aloud to have opinions

[sour crescent]

Well this is a discussion channel

I'm thinking my thoughts

WHY DOES IT SAY IM TYPING

SCARY

[fallow spoke]

What

[sour crescent]

Not feedbackinh thoughts

Get back to it

[solar shell]

This is a discussion channel, so i can ask if this is something to put in feedback? I almost never see people play hypsi or dryo, maybe im wrong maybe not. If im right. Then i guess it is because its not really a challenge especially not to be a Hypsi and i remember how it was playing an Ava on legacy, it feels the same playing a Dryo… Being a dinosaur with no growth time and not really a development as the Hypsi feels wrong. But why even bother bringing a dinosaur with no growth time and development into the game? Isn’t the whole point of playing the isle. To feel like you are the dinosaur that you chooses to be and going through all the stages of life as that dinosaur did. Meeting the thrill and so forth. I mean that i should be able to experience all the stages of life as a hypsi as much as a deino for example…

[sour crescent]

Omg it isn't me

[solar shell]

xD

[sour crescent]

It was him all along

[fallow spoke]

Imposter

[fallow spoke]

They're working on hypsi growth

[sour crescent]

Hypsi is getting growth eventually

[solar shell]

i see ok

👍

[sour crescent]

Prob in ancestry update

[fallow spoke]

Yuh ok

[solar shell]

Why is my name even rule 6 lol?

[sour crescent]

You must have impersonated a Dev in some form

[solar shell]

Impersonated?

[sour crescent]

Yee I can't spell

[solar shell]

Imitated?

[sour crescent]

Yeah like your name or PFP was of a devs

[paper oriole]

I have a ping here but i do not see it

[solar shell]

wierd lol

Had no idea about that

[sour crescent]

@fallow spoke it would be cool but it isn't helping the ecosystem or adding anything unique really. Also Devs need to spend time on Dinos that are confirmed.

[fallow spoke]

giving ptera a challenge, another food scource for things that catch it, it could eat parasites off of sauropods

maybe it could be an egg stealer

[odd sedge]

Ptera? No

[sour crescent]

Something that small wouldn't give a ptera challenge

[fallow spoke]

when did i mention it was small exactly?

[fallow spoke]

and by small in the general feedback i mean ptera size

[sour crescent]

But what would make it unique?

[fallow spoke]

dash ability, egg stealer that flies, eats insects

[sour crescent]

That just ovi and galli

[fallow spoke]

ovi and galli dont fly

[sour crescent]

Also I would not call dash a unique thing

[fallow spoke]

ok

and

[sour crescent]

Which would make ovi and galli useless

[fallow spoke]

how

it could steal flying things eggs

galli and ovi cant go up to a flying things nest

[sour crescent]

There is already two things with eggs, not unique

Enough

[fallow spoke]

i thought everything was gonna get eggs, and the devs have added nesting for 2 dinos already?

fight me bitch

[sour crescent]

I meant egg stealing

[fallow spoke]

ok

[fallow spoke]

..

[sour crescent]

Ok

Not unique enough

Also makes Galli and ovi useless

Why play a ground bound egg stealer when you can play one that can easily steal plus steal more?

[fallow spoke]

galli and ovi cant fly up to a flyers nest

[fallow spoke]

galli and ovi fast as shit

[sour crescent]

I don't think your getting my point

[fallow spoke]

they could balance it by making it run slow on land

[sour crescent]

But why would it ever need to land?

And it's still not unique

[fallow spoke]

to steal eggs?

and drink

and eat

bish?

also its like a one shot to basically everything]

[sour crescent]

So it's useless?

[fallow spoke]

you're so funny

why are you trying to change my opinion so much

does it really matter

you got better things to do?

[sour crescent]

If it's slow on land and needs to land to steal eggs why would it be useful compared to Galli or ovi?

[karmic plank]

If you ask someone's opinion, don't be upset if it doesn't match yours would be my advice

[fallow spoke]

im so sad rn

[pulsar lake]

I don't think we need another flyer to compete with Ptera, but other not filling some aerial niches.

[sour crescent]

What does that have to do with this @fallow spoke

[pulsar lake]

Herrera still can climb

[fallow spoke]

ok

[fallow spoke]

ok

[sour crescent]

Your just digging yourself into a deeper grave

[karmic plank]

Another flyer would be good but it needs something to set it apart... And flyers are in a bit of a weird place, being simultaneously too hard to kill and too weak to really be more than an annoyance

[pulsar lake]

I mean

[fallow spoke]

ok ?

[pulsar lake]

Flyers shouldn't often kill

Lmao

Like

I'd add Rhampho, Tupan, Thalasso un the roster

[karmic plank]

Like, I've killed carnos as a ptera... But only because they were too silly to realise they couldn't bite me

[sour crescent]

Y'know youve lost an argument when all U can say is ok...

[pulsar lake]

Dumbest thing about Ptera tbh

If it only was me, I'd say they couldn't attack while flying

[karmic plank]

If you are evaluating a discussion by who won and who lost, it's already a bad discussion imo

[fallow spoke]

[sour crescent]

Wouldn't call it a discussion really

[fallow spoke]

general feedback discussion much

[sour crescent]

More an argument

And I do agree, it is a bad discussion.

[karmic plank]

If it isn't a discussion maybe it shouldn't be being had here? 😉

[sour crescent]

Really all this place is is arguments tbh

The whole server

[fallow spoke]

lets continue to fight about what is a bad discussion

after the discussion ended

[karmic plank]

I've had plenty of good discussions with people in here, and most have changed my opinion in some fashion. If all you are in is arguments, maybe there's a common denominator

[fallow spoke]

he started it

[sour crescent]

I'm def not only in arguments, mostly shitposts lmao

[fallow spoke]

🤣

haha aha ha

[sour crescent]

I was just stating my opinion, your the one who started arguing

See?

[fallow spoke]

ok

[sour crescent]

See?

[fallow spoke]

your the one who is continuing to argue if i won or you won

see?

[karmic plank]

Everyone usually has a valid point to make, sometimes it just comes down to how well they can articulate it and how willing other people are to hear it

[sour crescent]

Yeah

I was trying to get you to come up with something unique

Still am

[fallow spoke]

oh we still arguing ? 🤓

[sour crescent]

I just think egg stealing isn't very unique

[pulsar lake]

This scent doesn't look that dumb

Looks like a lot some other game mechanic and works good

[sour crescent]

And your throwing insults at me..

[fallow spoke]

how

[karmic plank]

Let's not get back into that again

[sour crescent]

At this point your flame baiting

[fallow spoke]

all i did was have an opinion

[pulsar lake]

I wish there was a wind mechanic

[fallow spoke]

your the one starting the argument again

[fallow spoke]

no lets keep arguing

[sour crescent]

I think that scent is still op

Like if your in an open plain you would be able to see anything from really far away

Is that not flame baiting lol

[fallow spoke]

lol haha

[karmic plank]

Scent is a bit strong

[sour crescent]

Yeah

[fallen path]

Not for tracing people

Its only good for finding food and water rn

[karmic plank]

Not OP, and not useful in ways it should be, but

[sour crescent]

I think it ruins tracking

[fallen path]

It kinda does

[karmic plank]

The whole smoke thing I don't really like

It makes it harder to read the actual prints up close and too easy to spot from far

it fades too quickly too, you should be able to track people long distance like a wolf or something does

[maiden anvil]

I do see your point. It might be a little op to use so maybe things shouldn’t be so powerfully highlighted if highlighted at all. Though I still think the world around should turn grey

[karmic plank]

That's an intriguing idea

[sour crescent]

Anyways @fallow spoke, the reason I don't like the suggestion is because it is to bland, your current Dino you want doesn't really add anything and invalidates itself/other animals and I really think you should expand on your idea and give me and others a reason as to why they should another flyer like ptera.

[fallow spoke]

ok

are we done?

[sour crescent]

Yes

[karmic plank]

If it makes you feel any better, I agree that ptera could use a direct competitor

[maiden anvil]

I don’t really follow…

[karmic plank]

I think your idea is really interesting and has merit

[maiden anvil]

Thx!

[sour crescent]

Same

I think footprints need to work better

It only shows a few and is hard to follow over long distances

[maiden anvil]

I think footprints should have a different color from your own

[sour crescent]

Yee

[maiden anvil]

That way you don’t confuse them with your own

[fallow spoke]

ok

[sour crescent]

Pls stop saying ok

||lemme guess, he's gonna respond with ok||

[fallow spoke]

does it matter

[karmic plank]

Lets not

[sour crescent]

It's just kinda childish tbh, just wanna have a normal discussion

[karmic plank]

or if you must, take it to DMs

[sour crescent]

Anyway.

Wanna talk about how we can make it unique?

[karmic plank]

I would love to! Could it have a different food source?

Insectivore seems challenging, unless we get giant bugs

[sour crescent]

Insectivore

[fallow spoke]

the

[sour crescent]

What over food sources you think?

[karmic plank]

maybe a herbivore flyer?

[sour crescent]

Fruit?

[karmic plank]

fruits from trees, yeah

[paper oriole]

Tupandactylus moment

[karmic plank]

I mean ptera might as well be herbivore with how fish work

[sour crescent]

But needs a unique ability

[karmic plank]

it could hover, maybe?

[sour crescent]

Humming bird fruit bat

I love it

[karmic plank]

Mira - Tupandactylus looks cool as

fab-u-lous

[sour crescent]

How big tho?

And what animal is it

[karmic plank]

Tupandactylus looks a bit smaller than Pteranadon

[sour crescent]

And where does it fit in the ecosystem?

[karmic plank]

Wiki has https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/TapimpDB.jpg

[sour crescent]

Is it an omni or just a herb

[karmic plank]

um, @paper oriole halp

[sour crescent]

I'm thinking herb maybe fish but has some powerfull moves under its belt to fend off preds

[paper oriole]

Tupan is a little smaller than ptera

[karmic plank]

could be like a ptero toucan, big beak for grabbing seeds and fruit, was meant to be very agile

[paper oriole]

It was probably an omnivore but it would work as an herbivore eating treefruit

[sour crescent]

Toucan flyer sounds awesome lmao

[paper oriole]

Toucandactylus

[sour crescent]

AAAH

[karmic plank]

Look at the size of that hat tho https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Tupandactylus_skeleton_-_Museu_Nacional%2C_Rio_de_Janeiro.jpg/1280px-Tupandactylus_skeleton_-_Museu_Nacional%2C_Rio_de_Janeiro.jpg

[sour crescent]

Would have some nice colours

[karmic plank]

almost bigger than the rest of it

[paper oriole]

He could look so damn fabulous

[sour crescent]

Melon birb

[karmic plank]

brain the size of a walnut tho

[paper oriole]

Probably wouldn’t need camo, could sport some bright crest colours to stand out and be unique

[sour crescent]

Yeah

[karmic plank]

give it a vomit or an aimed poop that makes stuff stink and be easy to track

[sour crescent]

I'm assuming it would be the prey of Herrera?

[karmic plank]

niche filled ✅

[paper oriole]

Probably, herrera could jump them as they forage for fruit

[karmic plank]

Oh that's a good point, be hard for herrera to sneak up on it... maybe they could hide in the fruit trees

if fruit trees are a bit rare like the herbi bushes

[sour crescent]

Blend in cause it beak look like melon

Actually it looks like Banana

[karmic plank]

imagine if you could just upload a custom jpg for the crest markings... the amount of memes would be off the chart

plus... you know...

mmm maybe not a good idea

[sour crescent]

Lol

Maybe submitions?

[karmic plank]

or that CoD style logo builder

[sour crescent]

Still got ollsmugoll trying to argue with me..

I just wanna talk about birb

Would need some more diet food for it..

Maybe some mangos

I just like colourfully crests on animals tbh

[pulsar lake]

Herbivore flyer, going to grab on tree branches to eat fruits and nuts.

Then you possibly have Rhampho, insectivore and skin cleaner.

Both of them could be nocturnal imo.

Possibly thalassodromeus going for seashells and meat sometimes.

That's how I'd do them

[sour crescent]

Toucan ptera should be daylight dweller, to show of its beautiful beak

[pulsar lake]

Of course a giant Azdarchidae is a must. Giant death stork giraffe vultur.

Thing goes crazy speeds.

Has a god tier scent.

[sour crescent]

Insectivore flyer

[pulsar lake]

Can run down some small animals.

But takes long to take off.

Not nimble at all in skies so it can be kinda bullied but not too much.

If I ever see a Quetz dying to a flock of Ptera, I will just wait devkit and wait someone doing things correctly.

But Quetz must out speed them and out stam them.

[karmic plank]

oml that thing certainly has... presence

It's an reasonable take on "why the big beak" to say "so it could reach the ground" rather than them being skimmers

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Hatzegopteryx.png I dig grunge punk ptera

thalassodromeus renditions are also quite pretty

[paper oriole]

Gigantoraptor is cool but that is a very barebones and unhelpful suggestion

[pulsar lake]

Yeah

Baba did a suggestion about it

Iirc

Not sure

But he talked about this one to me kek

I'll always remember his last one

[paper oriole]

It would be a good omnivore mid tier fast runner with punishing kicks if it is backed into a corner, but just saying “add this dino its cool” is so lazy lol

[pulsar lake]

Exactly

[paper oriole]

Maybe ill try to find baba's suggestion

[pulsar lake]

Found it

Gigantoraptor :
Gimmicks :
-Earthquake : as it is a very tall animal with long legs, its appearance reminded me the secretary bird, an african bird that mainly hunts on snakes, little mammals and such preys. With its long legs, this bird gives powerful strikes to their opponents bellow them until their death and I thought it was cool. So in a first place, this attack or ability would be used in fights and in order to kill potential meals that are rather small and can be used by RMB + Alt while looking forward or bellow you and would be usable only at walk speed. Though, this attack has an effect on possible burrow : you can make them collapse so then look into them in order to find your preys, reason of the name "earthquake". It can also be used on very high trees with nuts out of reach in order to make them fall.
Common abilities :
-Bite : simple LMB dealing fair damages and possibly fractures.
-Forward kick : a powerful attack dealing small bleed with RMB that you can use forward in order to attack opponents. It can cause knock back on small enough animals with fracture at the fall.
-Backward kick : a way to get animals behind you with RMB + alt while looking backward. Same possible knock back as forward kick.
Note : both kicks can be used while stationary, walking and trotting. Then front kick cannot be used while sprinting unlike its backward counterpart.
Diet :
-Nuts/fruits : having such a long neck would surely be used for high browsing. The beak must be useful for hard shelled things too.
-Small animals : diggers, low grounded are preys are the best choices. However, bigger animals can become threats as how light and fragile this animal is for its size.

But it was in private as all his message have been deleted

[paper oriole]

Oh oof

Secretary bird giganto would be pretty sick tho

[pulsar lake]

That's for the omnivore side but main diet must be fruits and nuts tbh.

Like, cool you can eat what you can swallow.

So, not that much things.

[paper oriole]

Yeha hed def be limited to juvies, smalls, eggs and small ai as far as proteins go

Basically hyper galli

[limber hull]

I prefer the dense forests tbh

[paper oriole]

dense forests are great as logn as there are also open plains, there should be both. then people who dont like the dense forests can just not go there

[limber hull]

i agree

i personally find the plains boring, especially since everyone seems to fight there

[paper oriole]

sometimes its fun to just run in an open area but yeah it gets boring and uncomfortable as a small animal at times too

some smalls like homa and oro will probably rely a lot on dense foliage to live freely

[sudden hinge]

@limber hull tbf it’s the players that do that not the spawn points

[limber hull]

it kinda is the map tho

it's heavily based on how accessible water is

south and centre both have spots which are safer to drink from

southeast has an okay area to drink from

[sudden hinge]

North has a whole river you can stay on that opens up the western portion of the map the regional spawning doesn’t dictate fully where anyone goes it’s just people equate certain areas as action packed spots and end up there

[paper oriole]

Velo fought proto irl and was feathered, I don't see how it would look out of place in game that way

And if he's naked then he's just permanent juvie jp raptor which is boring

[tawny juniper]

irl is out of place

[paper oriole]

???

[tawny juniper]

that is a sign you have been looking at something incorrect for too long

[paper oriole]

What

[tawny juniper]

I'm saying, if something real looks out of place, you need to look at real things more often

Not talking about you

[paper oriole]

Oh lol

I think there is an impression among many people that something with feathers cant rumble and tumble in a brawl

Even though even modern birds do it

[odd sedge]

No, no I really don't want the legacy model.
It looks like a little rat with broken wrists

[urban flax]

^Legacy velo=bad velo

[odd sedge]

The Proto model looks so good, so colorful and cute and then you have that screaming gremlin...

The two call should stay tho, I agree with that

[paper oriole]

Velo's wrists don’t look all that broken but bald raptors are a trend that needs to die

[odd sedge]

Alright fair, could be just me.
They looked just a little broken from that angle

[wicked furnace]

I didn't say exactly the same as the legacy one, i just said similiar, as i liked the color pattern for it, and if they made it feathered it would look weird and awful to me

[compact hare]

Would look good with feathers, I believe

You could desable feathers

[wicked furnace]

[compact hare]

Hope they add feathers as a 3 option filter, not jut skin custom

[vale pawn]

id like to see feathered velo

[odd sedge]

Feathered Velo >>>>>>>>>> bald velo

[compact hare]

1 - all with feathers
2 - no feathers
3 - According to the skin chosed (you would see both featheres and non feathered)

this filter

[wicked furnace]

Someone already did a comparison, and while the feathered one does look good, it will look AWFUL next to the naked proto to me

[compact hare]

Why comparing just to proto

[odd sedge]

Hard disagree, that would look great

[vale pawn]

lets feather proto then

[wicked furnace]

[cosmic trellis]

feathered fish

[compact hare]

quills on proto

[wicked furnace]

No point in feathering velo when utah isn't feathered

[vale pawn]

quilled velo and feathered proto

[compact hare]

we'll have feathered options later

[wicked furnace]

Hopefully not imo

[compact hare]

Your choice

[wicked furnace]

yeah

opinions are what they are

Just it would look weird if there were like 5 naked raptors then just 2 feathered in the back

[paper oriole]

Yeah well some of us think it looks dumb naked

[hasty dagger]

Can’t wait for Raptor Racism

[vale pawn]

velo > utah

[paper oriole]

Other people shouldn’t lose the option just because you don't like it

[wicked furnace]

facts

[odd sedge]

Austro has feathers tho

[wicked furnace]

Austros an alien tho

[paper oriole]

Do you want velo's quality standard lowered like utah's?

[wicked furnace]

Wdym?

[odd sedge]

It's a flamingo. A pretty crane flamingo

[wicked furnace]

👽

[paper oriole]

“One of the worst looking dinos doesn't have feathers so why should velo?”

[wicked furnace]

You saying utahs design is shit or something?

[paper oriole]

Yes

[vale pawn]

i think velo looks fine even without featheres and still looks like a velo, unlike this dude

[odd sedge]

Yes

[paper oriole]

It is a literal jurassic park ripoff that looks nothing like its namesake

[wicked furnace]

Who?

[odd sedge]

It's literally jp

[paper oriole]

It sounds, acts and looks like the most overused raptor design in dinosaur media

[vale pawn]

this dude

[wicked furnace]

[vale pawn]

UTAH

[odd sedge]

Uwutah

[cosmic trellis]

smellytah

[vale pawn]

docktah

[paper oriole]

Honestly they should just rename utah and atop insulting the actual animal with this clone gremlin

[wicked furnace]

Make it novaraptor lol

[paper oriole]

Or apolloraptor idk

Just not utahraptor

[odd sedge]

Anyways.
Feathers for velo

[paper oriole]

Yes

[wicked furnace]

[paper oriole]

Wrong opinion

[wicked furnace]

Don't care

Feathers make velo look like a pussy

[paper oriole]

Feathered velo >>>>>>> utah juvie clone

[wicked furnace]

The Isle logic >>>>>>>>>>Realism

[paper oriole]

Waxed raptor looks like a pussy

[wicked furnace]

Ok

[odd sedge]

Wdym, Velo literally had feathers

[paper oriole]

Feathered is like a badass eagle

[wicked furnace]

Im saying that having naked raptors in a NON REALISM game is better

never did i say that velo didn't have feathers irl

[odd sedge]

It's not

[paper oriole]

I mean if you’re into generic naked jp clones sure but a lot of us arent

So it should be an option

[wicked furnace]

naked velo isn't even a clone but alrhgt

[vale pawn]

feathered velo

[paper oriole]

Majestic

[wicked furnace]

Pussy-like

[compact hare]

love it

[odd sedge]

✨

[vale pawn]

feathered raptors my beloved

[wicked furnace]

Feathers only look good on ovi and cherry

[paper oriole]

Your opinion

[compact hare]

Lets avoid calling things pssy too

[vale pawn]

so your saying we should have featherless theri

[wicked furnace]

Oh yeah that too

Forgot

[paper oriole]

Some people like it better when something looks like its namesake

Unlike utah

Or anky...

But different story

[wicked furnace]

Wdym?

Ok

[odd sedge]

Nvm, read it wrong

[wicked furnace]

[odd sedge]

Thought it was supposed to be pro-naked theri

[paper oriole]

Also galli should have a feathered option

[odd sedge]

^

[wicked furnace]

^^

i can agree on that

tbh

[paper oriole]

It doesn’t look bad without feathers compared to other wax gallis but it doesn’t look good either

[wicked furnace]

I mean

the galli

IS a jp ripoff

[paper oriole]

Galli and utah are and movie monster spino, and the rex calls

[wicked furnace]

I hope we get this in the velo concept art tbh lol

[paper oriole]

Sick of jp or general ugly normalized inaccuracies seeping into the game

[wicked furnace]

Yeah but the game isn't supposed to be accurate

[paper oriole]

It is supposed to be cool

[wicked furnace]

Yeah

[paper oriole]

Which utah isnt

Its just shameless fanboyism

For jp

[wicked furnace]

Just because a dinosaur is inaccurate doesn't mean it isn't fun to play

[paper oriole]

Inaccurate is fine if it is cool and doesn’t stray too far

Tenonto is a good example, austro and utah are examples of what not to do

[wicked furnace]

coughcoughcough****cough

[paper oriole]

Beipiao is fine i mean it still looks like a therizinosaur

[wicked furnace]

Yeah but not its gameplay lol

[urban flax]

People advocating for featherless velo

Bring me the Exterminatus

[paper oriole]

It would probably be fodder as a pure terrestrial

[wicked furnace]

My opinion

[paper oriole]

Its unrealistic gameplay benefits it similar to tenonto's

[urban flax]

Beipi could actually have been semiaquatic irl
We just don't have any evidence for it

[wicked furnace]

Probably not penguin like tho

[gritty helm]

honestly tho if utah was only a slight jp reference while also gaining some levels of accuracy it would be

but that won't happen probably so

[paper oriole]

Imo as long as they dont break his wrists and make him doggie paddle he's good

[gritty helm]

I just don't see Utah's feathered variant looking like the irl animal tbh

[paper oriole]

I bet itll have disgusting sleeve feathers because of its broken arms

[wicked furnace]

Yeah, adding feathers to the model rn won't make it look like this (don't think this is a utah just an example)

[urban flax]

What if the feathered option fixes its arms ?

[paper oriole]

That would be nice

[gritty helm]

[paper oriole]

The arms make it unbearable to look at i cant even play the damn thing lol

[gritty helm]

if the arms just stayed like the legacy model it'd be fine

[urban flax]

Also evrima Utah doesn't have completely broken wrists. They're not facing forwards like JP raptor's, they're just somewhat bent.

[paper oriole]

Its like what little kids do with their arms when they pretend to be dinosaurs

[wicked furnace]

This could work actually lol

[paper oriole]

As much as the isle devs drool over using uncreative jp inspirations though at least they don’t stoop as low at shit like this

[wicked furnace]

[urban flax]

What even is this

[paper oriole]

God i wanna die looking at this

[vale pawn]

jwe deinonychus

[paper oriole]

The horror

[urban flax]

Deinonychus ?

[wicked furnace]

He do be looking like an alien

[urban flax]

I thought it was some sort of oviraptor

[paper oriole]

His spine got the wrists treatment lmao

[urban flax]

Why tho
Why does it have no spine

[paper oriole]

At least isle jp ripoffs dont have broken spines i guess

Only positive thing i can say about utah

It could be worse

[urban flax]

Well yeah I'm gonna look at Isle jp referenced models with another eye now
A more pleased one

Good thing with naked Utah
Is that since we have it, the chance of having other raptors be ugly JP ripoffs is lower because there is only one kind of raptor in JP

[paper oriole]

Imagine dying to a pack of 20 broken back broken wrist jp clones i would uninstall the game lmao

[gritty helm]

for now

[paper oriole]

I hope velo doesn’t play like perma juvie utah though like it could be an all-terrain semi-arboreal with crude gliding ability

[urban flax]

I really hope velo doesn't get a featherless option
Because that would mean its wings don't play a role in its gameplay

[paper oriole]

It would be so boring

[urban flax]

Double jumping velo ftw

[paper oriole]

Double jumping always feels kinda unnatural to me but idk

Maybe some athletic smalls like velo can have a kickoff jump

[urban flax]

Well Utah got one additionnal jump compared to its real life counterpart
Velo gets the same treatment since it's a raptor too

[paper oriole]

Utah just jumps like a kangaroo on crack now because they warped its anatomy so much to make it vault around like a jp raptor

Stress would be easy to abuse like in BoB

[warm flame]

@fallen path mix packs and mega packs have an orange scent cloud around them, just use your nose

[wicked furnace]

[warm flame]

stress in bob is the most annoying thing I have ever experienced

rexes dying from a light sprinkle

[paper oriole]

Cant you literally kill people with stress in BoB?

Its hilarious

[warm flame]

you can, just stand around them and they die

[cosmic trellis]

oops im next to a velo, time to have a heart attack and die

[warm flame]

you don't even need to fight

[paper oriole]

Kill somebody by looking at them too long

[warm flame]

OH DEAR LORD A CHICKEN

[vale pawn]

hes existing i need medical assistance

[paper oriole]

If i saw a featherless velo irl i would die of disgust

[cosmic trellis]

OOOOOOOO SHIIT. A RAT!

[paper oriole]

Lmao

[warm flame]

no, you'd die of stress

[cosmic trellis]

[warm flame]

anyways enough Bad Isle before an admin spanks us

[paper oriole]

The very existence of a featherless velo would stress me out so much i would forget to breathe and die

[cosmic trellis]

dont threaten me with a good time

[paper oriole]

Anyway no stress ples

[warm flame]

[paper oriole]

Honestly mega and mix packs are one of those things that admins should manage

[warm flame]

legacy featherless velo is fine, but considering how bad utah looks, a featherless evrima velo would be quite possible worse than utah, quite an achievement

[warm flame]

ban the mixpackers

[cosmic trellis]

chuckle ducc

[paper oriole]

Teleport the mixpackers off a cliff, man i miss teleporting people off cliffs...

[warm flame]

I remember once on an official server I went after a utah as carno then another carno showed up to help it, I ran because a huge utah pack was rolling in, I came back later and found the carno dead

[cosmic trellis]

THIS. IS. EVRIIIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[odd sedge]

Teleport them while you are flying as a ptera

[paper oriole]

Can evrima admins do this? Beautiful

[odd sedge]

How... how does the deino grow to that size without growing in weight also?

Isn't that Basic square cube law?

[paper oriole]

I wish our deinos tail had those glorious fluke ridges ):

[sudden hinge]

Yeah mixpackers should get some of the worst debuffs

[paper oriole]

Sadly a mixpacking debuff could probably be abused so easily

They should just get teleported off of mountains and cliffs or into the middle of the ocean

[sudden hinge]

It may but there may be a way to make it work and maybe the abuse is worth getting rid of people stat boosting

[paper oriole]

Just have admins wreck them

[sudden hinge]

I would love that honestly

That’s a lot of work for the admins tho to make sure they are always wrecking them

[paper oriole]

Fast dinos could debuff a stronger slower dino with a couple members then swoop in with the whole pack to take advantage

Would be pretty annoying

[sudden hinge]

Hmm true idk there’s away around it I’m sure

[fallen path]

@warm flame thats not the problem.

[warm flame]

you can avoid them by using scent

so if you don't wanna die, avoid the orange clouds

simple

[urban flax]

@strange wave Should be automatic tho. There is no reason you wouldn't want to buck when you're pinned down.

[barren zephyr]

Question, what can I buy with ten tokens?

[urban flax]

On officials ? Nothing. If you're playing on an unofficial servers, it depends on which server.

[barren zephyr]

Ummm, all of them.?

Sorry idk ;-; pick your fav

[icy lion]

"tokens" or whatever currency are unique per server

they are not part of the game in any way

[barren zephyr]

The Nebula ones?

[icy lion]

i have no idea what youre talking about

because these are private servers

[barren zephyr]

I’m so confused..

[icy lion]

youll have to find the discord server for whichever isle server youre playing

[barren zephyr]

Okay.

Thanks!

[odd sedge]

Wait, how much is Dilo going to weigh?