general-feedback-discussion

[icy lion]

it would probably explode if it ate anything teno size or larger

[worn pumice]

arboreal titanboa?

[icy lion]

hell even a teno seems too big

[mellow steppe]

Anyon else not like the new map

[worn pumice]

think the map is much better

[hybrid matrix]

titanoboa is like a small tier creature but its too big visually to work properly as a small tier

[frank matrix]

Make it have choke ability like that Raptors that have jump ability

[barren zephyr]

Ah, give it time.

[worn pumice]

also the map is still in progress so

[carmine path]

You forget the master of its in my stomach like the great pythons who eat god damn deer in Florida ITS A PROBLEM WE NEED VOLUNTEERS pythons are to powerful and invasive

[mellow steppe]

It’s better then the last one but when you’re in the plains every hill looks the same

And when your in the jungle it doesn’t feel like a jungle

[carmine path]

No seriously florida needs help with pythons they are a menace

[mellow steppe]

It’s so dry there should be puddles and small creeks

[carmine path]

Also goes to show why Titanboa could ruin the ecosystem 🙃

[paper geyser]

florida wouldn't need help if people would stop getting exotic animals as pets in places they don't belong

[barren zephyr]

Unless florida somehow gets an long extreme cold spell, they're there to stay.

[carmine path]

Lemme just tell the entire world stop buying exotic animals.

[hybrid matrix]

yeah but if they have an exotic pet in its naturaly habitat then its not an exotic pet anymore

[swift dew]

yeah, there isnt anything we can do to get pythons out of florida, maybe global cooling?

anyway, pythons dont matter to this game

[barren zephyr]

The Burms actually came from a breeding facility that was hit with a hurricane and released 900 snakes into the everglades

[carmine path]

Damn impossible with climate change ☹️

[hybrid matrix]

wait
wut eats pythons?

[carmine path]

Nothing

[carmine path]

They are apex predators

[mellow steppe]

Humans do

[carmine path]

They kill our fucking alligators

[paper geyser]

burmese pythons aren't native to north america, they shouldn't have been there in the first place

[hybrid matrix]

just get a bunch of those things in florida and BOOm problem SolvecdxDD

[tranquil frost]

Humans are like rats, they eat anything and reproduce in any situation

[carmine path]

I believe you mean another problem of invasive species

[mellow steppe]

Saw someone kill and cook a python

That shit was yummy

[barren zephyr]

Lots of things when they're little, besides that pretty much just gators.

[carmine path]

Alright boys but i think we should stop before SuperLunary gets back

[barren zephyr]

Why do you say that?

[hybrid matrix]

yeah but if theres something bigger than a python that can eat a python then just kill the python killers BOOM BIG BRAIN TIME BIOTCHESES

[icy lion]

jokes on you ive been lurking the whole time

[carmine path]

Ah shit

[paper geyser]

because it leads to issues exactly like these?

[icy lion]

but yea starting to get #401470471750811669 , you can continue there

[carmine path]

If we kill Lunary no one will know 🧐

[hybrid matrix]

not that simple

[hybrid matrix]

👀👀 👄 👀 👀

[mellow steppe]

😐

[lyric badger]

omg fighting sub adult utahs as a dryo is so much fun

[carmine path]

Sorry @icy lion it must be done

[mellow steppe]

Dryo is fucking op

[carmine path]

Eh

[barren zephyr]

It can, I'm fine with the keeping of exotics as long as don responsibly and ethically. A licensing system should be maintained in other words. That's it @icy lion I'm back to the Isle.

[mellow steppe]

It’s a bird killer and if you are a smart dryo player you can’t get caught

[carmine path]

Dyro needs a speed nerf and a dodge hitbox fix

[mellow steppe]

Speed nerf?!

[carmine path]

Nerf

[mellow steppe]

Why would it need a speed nerf

[tranquil frost]

True, I have killed countless birds with dryo

[icy lion]

dryos speed got buffed in the test branch

[carmine path]

Kill it dead

[icy lion]

its faster than utah now

[hybrid matrix]

Or nothing

[icy lion]

imo its a bandaid fix for the bad dodge

[carmine path]

Or nerf

[mellow steppe]

It should be faster than Utah in my opinion

The point of dryo is to hide away

[hybrid matrix]

or nothing

[mellow steppe]

Live to die another day

[carmine path]

We just gonna agree to disagree cause my stubborn ass will continue this rythm

[tranquil frost]

I think it's bite force should be nerfed

[hybrid matrix]

nerf or nothing you isosceles ranch dorito

[carmine path]

“It’s nerf or nothing AHHhhHhhh”

Pre-Evrima Anti-Rex Bonebreak People

[urban flax]

Bonebreak is bad
Bonebreak breaks my heart

[carmine path]

I can’t make The Isle Memes so i make them about the subject we talk about ☹️

[hybrid matrix]

im just assuming that u got the nerf gun reference and i wont have to show my friends some pics of this convo later today, discretely mentioning how much of an uncooked piece of turkey bacon you are

[lyric badger]

dryo is at the correct speed now xd, it feels so much better to play, so fast and nimble

[carmine path]

Beautiful

[hybrid matrix]

i'll interpret this as yes, confirming that you understood the reference

[velvet sundial]

@jade schooner great idea to make different routes with different food. Mixpacking won't do much good then, so we won't need rules for it anymore

Big herbivores need to move slower, though. Otherwise it doesn't work well. Stegos can just run over the entire map before running low in food

[jade schooner]

I actually forgot of mixpacking for a second but yea, it does help around.

[jade schooner]

Or having longer routes. Ideally it should fit the animal

[worn pumice]

stego moves slow enough lol

[spiral ravine]

@velvet sundial your suggestions make no sense and have zero benefit to be added into the game

[worn pumice]

lets not make it even slower

[jade schooner]

For example, hypsi and smaller animals shouldn’t really have migration routes, they either have a set environment or most environments fit well enough

[urban flax]

this is harsh

[worn pumice]

their also the one who wanted gay nesting

[urban flax]

I did not say it was not true

[worn pumice]

good point

[spiral ravine]

gay nesting like come on dude

[worn pumice]

its so bad that its funny

[barren zephyr]

yea....that’s weird

[velvet sundial]

Their low speed should force them to migrate. At least in the dry period. In the wet period, there can be lots of food. Enough to stay on one place for a long time and have a nest

[barren zephyr]

the fact that it’s probably not even ironic

[worn pumice]

i mean stego is slow as hell

[manic flint]

I mean there would be no eggs but geese do that

[worn pumice]

how much slower u want it to be lol

[velvet sundial]

Now stegos can just run to get food and come back

[spiral ravine]

lol

[jade schooner]

I mean, why couldn’t two males adopt an abandoned nest? Or have a female put eggs and two males take charge. It’s not as bad

[manic flint]

A male should be able to build a nest

[spiral ravine]

idc how they make nesting work but two sperms don't make an embryo

[worn pumice]

#balance-feedback message

also making stegos slower doesnt change anything

it'll still just run and get food n come back

[velvet sundial]

My suggestions are for the developers and for people who want to talk about them seriously

[manic flint]

It'll just be painfully slow

[spiral ravine]

talk about gay nesting seriously?

[velvet sundial]

Instead of rejecting them immediately

[worn pumice]

i honestly cant look at "gay nesting is ok" and take that seriously

[spiral ravine]

do you think the devs are making a cartoon

[urban flax]

There are things that need to be rejected immediately so that developers don't see them

[manic flint]

Gay nesting.can work but there would be no eggs just play a female if u wanna lay eggs

[urban flax]

They already have a fairly low opinion of the community

[velvet sundial]

Devs can see them. Also if they are rejected

[void wasp]

why u want gay nesting for?

[urban flax]

Sadly

Actually I have an argument for gay nesting but I'm not gonna put it down because I don't want that to happen

[manic flint]

Males have been confirmed to be able to make nests and are now nessecary for nesting when update 7 comes out I think

[velvet sundial]

They won't let go good suggestions because of rejection. Otherwise, bad devs

[spiral ravine]

some suggestions just clearly don't benefit the game, and impossible to execute

you think gay nesting is a good suggestion?

[void wasp]

lmao i mean a male can make a nest but i doubt 2 males can make a baby...

[urban flax]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

update dropped

[manic flint]

Aaayyyy update 3 is actually out???

[worn pumice]

fr?

[velvet sundial]

I suggested it because players can choose genders themselves

[worn pumice]

rip to the stego i had for a week on the test servers

[velvet sundial]

You choose to see weird things about it only

[worn pumice]

honestly i cant stop laughing at the word gay nesting

[manic flint]

Yea so pick female? 2 male animals cannot breed because there is no egg that's just biology

[urban flax]

Why do you think players can choose genders ?

[worn pumice]

its so comical and random like why

[manic flint]

They can in the character select screen

Pick sex

[velvet sundial]

Alternative is random gender spawn

[manic flint]

Male or female

[urban flax]

Okay I'm putting down the argument
Gay nesting is basically what happened in jurassic park, and we know Dondi is a jurassic park fan sooooooooooooo...

[worn pumice]

that is actually something good to converse about

i swear if gay nesting gets added im out

[urban flax]

I don't know how random gender spawn would benefit the game tho

[worn pumice]

its literally not physically possible

[manic flint]

Yes

[worn pumice]

wonder if they changed anything

[velvet sundial]

If everyone wants the coolest gender, then no one can find a mate

[manic flint]

Random gender down why tho? Why shouldn't we be able to pick? What's your reasoning?

[worn pumice]

in the update gonna check it out

[urban flax]

If everyone plays one gender and you wanna make a nest, pick the other gender

It's as simple as that

[manic flint]

Yes

Makes sense

[urban flax]

People will stop picking only one gender when nesting is out and naturally try to make things even

[manic flint]

Sexual dimorphism is the only reason to pick one over the other but some players like the male skin over female and vice versa

[urban flax]

In legacy I only played female because of better camouflage 🙂

[worn pumice]

oh yo they listened to us they gave deino a grab while not walking on the riverbed

"Tap RMB when swimming - Water boost. Used to rapidly launch yourself to your fastest swimming speed. Can also be used to grab swimming targets in the water."

[rocky basalt]

Can anyone explain to me how the quality / envrimo versions differ? Is the quality used only for stress tests and the envrimo is switched back after? Confused on what I’m supposed to play on rn

[icy lion]

play on evrima

[velvet sundial]

Quality is overpopulated but the most recent version with ptera and deino

[worn pumice]

since the update dropped now

[icy lion]

qa was only for the test

[manic flint]

They just ended quality assurance play normal evrima it has update 3.now

[worn pumice]

play on evrima

[rocky basalt]

Gotcha

So quality is still playable but the most unstable version

[worn pumice]

oh wow teno is only 105 minutes now

[manic flint]

They just released the real update for.evrima. so don't play QA now

WHAT?

[worn pumice]

yea

and carno is 135 minutes

so carno is 2 hours and 15 mins

and teno is 1 hour and 45 mins

if my math is correct

[manic flint]

Anything else change?

[icy lion]

full patch notes are on steam

[worn pumice]

utah

[icy lion]

and in #announcements

[worn pumice]

utah is 75 minutes now

[manic flint]

They needed all the growth times for everything? Hmmm

[molten tulip]

I think carno got a new attack

[urban flax]

Actually
The trailer didn't showcase baby deino sounds. 0/10.

[barren zephyr]

What is Deinosuchus hatcheri really? rugosus or riograndensis?

Or is it its own thing? I couldn't find much info on it.

Oh, wait no it's its own thing.

[worn pumice]

utah being an hour and 15 mins is def interesting

happy they made dryo less tho

[swift dew]

patch notes say dryo is 30 minutes

[worn pumice]

yea

[odd sedge]

I just want to take a moment and appreciate everyone's work

[worn pumice]

they put a whole lot in this update

very impressive

[odd sedge]

My mood got better by a thousand percent

[barren zephyr]

Day 45 of waiting for customizable group limits.

[robust vine]

@fluid jasper i agree. game wont really be the same without it

[urban flax]

It won't be the same for sure
But it will be better

[ruby cipher]

I agree with Nicky, that’s how a lot of us socialize and ask for slays or if we get stuck 🤷🏼‍♀️. Would love that feature for the server owners to be able to enable and disable it.

[barren zephyr]

At least give us an option to enable and disable it for community hosted servers

[robust vine]

it depends really, global chat can be really useful for admins and servers who allow things like mixpacks.

[barren zephyr]

:/

[urban flax]

But it has its downsides too. From what I know devs want to implement other ways for admins to communicate in their servers

[paper geyser]

meh, no issue with making it optional for server admins

[robust vine]

everyone will be happy with having the option

[barren zephyr]

^

[ruby cipher]

The server I play on is mixpacking and how is that gonna happen when we can’t talk to other species etc. Not everyone likes talking on vc 🤷🏼‍♀️

So it would be good to have the option

[barren zephyr]

I just want the option

They wanted sever owners to have more customization, but remove global without even an option to enable/disable it. And group limits can't be edited either

Kinda sucks

[ruby cipher]

^ agreed

[robust vine]

kinda ruins it for no rule servers who allow unlimited groups

[barren zephyr]

Maybe it'll come with time but the global enable/disable feature is something that could've been implemented right away

[carmine path]

I would just wait a bit considering we haven’t seen the full extent of evrima

[robust vine]

once evrima becomes more popular they should add those options

[carmine path]

Oh 100%

[robust vine]

@long tulip there will be plenty of realism servers to play one. but having the option to have a global chat will really benefit most servers

[barren zephyr]

Isle had immersion? Since when

[paper oriole]

Yes new trike ples

[barren zephyr]

Oh I love that model

[long tulip]

I never meant for those strict rules ''realistic''servers to be added, i only meant for the global chat in general that was wrong and bad for the game

[paper oriole]

Current trike looks like one of those overweight dogs

[barren zephyr]

You know it's legacy run animation?

Poor dude breaks his legs

[swift dew]

benefit them how? so you can sit down and play talk simulator?

[paper oriole]

Trike and dibble runs in legacy hurt

[barren zephyr]

They do

Plenty of other survival games have global chat too, just add an option for server owners to enable it/disable it and everyone will be happy

[flat crypt]

Here's the thing: Why does it matter if particular servers do end up being birdbath simulators. If global chat is an option it won't matter, because if that isn't your preferred type of game there will be servers with it disabled

[carmine path]

Im thinking more for admins and other players to help newer players...

[paper oriole]

I like it when i kill something and i see the salt in global chat i hope it becomes an option again

[flat crypt]

I think this game has a lot of potential in what it could provide by giving server owners a lot of customisation

[carmine path]

Shits funny XD

[barren zephyr]

I agree with Serpent

100%

[flat crypt]

The base game experience simply isn't for everyone. Allowing unofficial servers to cater to differing experiences is how you just make a better game overall

People who want the official experience don't miss out when other servers exist that offer slightly different experiences

[barren zephyr]

🙏

[swift dew]

this can be worked around with a system for admins to contact a specific person/group of people in a different chat that the admins can create, and then destroy when needed.

[flat crypt]

I can totally see why they don't want official to have global chat. For the sort of atmosphere they're trying to create it makes sense. And people who like that can play officials just fine

But some people like the social aspect

Personally, I bought this game when lockdown was a thing last year, so I've always enjoyed the social aspect because it was a big part for me when I first played this game. So I'd be sad to see it go

even on legacy there are unofficial servers that don't allow global iirc? So it's not like there won't be any unofficial servers without it either

[robust vine]

alot of time there isnt actually much to do in the isle, having an option to talk in a global chat helps pass time when growing, its also a great way to group up with mixpacks for stuff like herds. New players might also need help with controls and hints to help them play (not everyone uses discord too so they wont be able to ask that way)

[barren zephyr]

Personally, I dislike the way they're forcing us the play the game. Set group limits, no global, etc. That's not how I like to play games. It's why I choose to play on servers that fit the experience of the isle that I want. I like a multi-player game where I can communicate with people, even if they are not my species. I like talking to people in general, it makes me feel less alone in a game. But having these gameplay aspects forced on me is totally uncool.

[robust vine]

i always enjoyed the freedom of legacy

[barren zephyr]

You want the indented experience isle devs want you to experience? Play official.

[flat crypt]

Yeah, the limits they're setting would make sense if they applied specifically to official servers. But it does not make sense to limit unofficial servers in this way either. They're just forcing unofficial servers into being official server clones

[barren zephyr]

Ex fix

[barren zephyr]

I agree with you

[swift dew]

well then the game isnt good, if you have to pass the time by chatting then it isnt a good game. the game should be made so its enjoyable to play in all stages of your life

[flat crypt]

Or hot take piggy: just let it be an option on unofficial servers

[robust vine]

eventually people wont even play unofficial ones since theres nothing different to offer.

[flat crypt]

it literally doesn't hurt anyone to do that

[barren zephyr]

Whats the point of playing on community servers if they're all the same, basically just official with some very minor changes

[robust vine]

ALOT of players enjoy global chat

[flat crypt]

the reason I think unofficials are meant to be appealing is because they're all different

Making them all the same is just a very very very weird direction to be going, and not a good one imo

[robust vine]

ive always found the official ones boring tbh

[swift dew]

they shouldn't. all they do is sit and chat, if they want to do that they should get something that is actually meant for chatting. not a survival horror game

[flat crypt]

i like official now and again. not my preferred experience, but it has it's moments

[rocky basalt]

Wait

WAIT

there’s unofficial servers?

lmaooooo I need me in one of those

[carmine path]

Update released

[flat crypt]

well yeah. community servers

[barren zephyr]

I like a multi-player game where I can play and at the same time socialize and make friends. This lonely "immersive" experience isn't for me. I play the game, and have the ability to chat with other people. That's the Isle that I know and love.

[robust vine]

not exactly, not everyone plays the isle for the rp aspect of it. alot of people play for stuff like fighting other clans. With the way that the game is going its going to get a bit boring

[barren zephyr]

Which is why I play on unofficial

[swift dew]

if your getting your entertainment from chatting in global chat from a survival horror game then this game is not for you

[barren zephyr]

People should be 100% allowed to have their own playstyles, which is EXACTLY why unofficial exists.

[flat crypt]

But why limit the game to that very specific group of people?

It makes sense to have the official experience tailor to something specific. But games that allow community servers to deviate are what shine the most imo

[barren zephyr]

It's not like we are telling devs to enable global on official again, we want it on unofficial.

[robust vine]

eventually people will end up getting bored of the game with all these limits

[flat crypt]

the wider the experiences you allow, the more people you'll attract to your game

[barren zephyr]

Keyword: Unofficial

[elder rivet]

you're really gonna ignore this @swift dew

[swift dew]

well then let them leave, I already said if they are getting their enterainment from chatting then they should go to a chat room

[flat crypt]

From a business standpoint it makes sense to appeal to the widest audience possible. And in this scenario, you can do that without sacrificing your initial specific audience by giving them places to play that fit that experience they wanted

[barren zephyr]

They aren't getting their entertainment from chatting, you are totally misunderstanding the point

[flat crypt]

TI has it's flaws, but also has great potential. It offers things that other "play as a dino games" do not, and that's why I think it'd be a smart move for the devs to actually allow community servers to appeal to a wide audience

[terse hornet]

@pulsar oasis please ask questions in isle discussion or #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧

[robust vine]

for a game that really rely's on the community having no global chat will be hard for people to fully enjoy the game.

[barren zephyr]

Global is a necessity to community servers, admin help is the prime example here.

We are not talking about how chatting is fun and that's what the entire game should be.

We are talking about how players have different playstyles, and having global as an option wouldn't harm anyone and would cater to a wider audience.

Again.

On unofficial.

[silver zephyr]

they can create a private admin chat for admin help, global chat isnt really needed in that regard

[flat crypt]

yeah the fact they removed global without first actually adding systems to help admins is a little frustrating

[odd sedge]

Hold up a good diddly darn second, what have they done to ptera skimming? How deep must you go excuse me?

[silver zephyr]

true tho

[flat crypt]

community servers are gonna be rather annoying for admins I imagine until then

which again. why.

so many weird choices being made

[rocky basalt]

So are there slight changes to update 3 that were not in the quality branch we were playing

[barren zephyr]

We just want an option for unofficial, that is literally all lmfao

[flat crypt]

i didn't like global being removed at first, but I'm actually all for it being totally gone from official servers + local species only. that isolating experience really adds to the horror. But if you're forcing community servers to be the same as official servers, what's the point in having them in the first place?

[barren zephyr]

^

[elder rivet]

and how are you gonna speak to admins?

[barren zephyr]

And like Serpent and many others have said, they removed it without even adding a function for admins to talk to players, which is really going to make server admins struggle rn.

[swift dew]

the point is so that they dont have to run 50 official servers per region. have you seen the stress test? waiting for hours on hours to get into a server isnt the best

[barren zephyr]

W h a t.

[swift dew]

a 1 on 1 chat that the admins can activate and deactivate, its simple

[flat crypt]

so essentially get other people to do the work for them

[barren zephyr]

It's not a feature dude

They removed global without putting a feature like that in

[elder rivet]

and how are admins gonna know who to talk to

[swift dew]

it c a n be a feature

[barren zephyr]

But it i s n t right now

[swift dew]

ok and?

[barren zephyr]

Bro..

[carmine path]

Piggy?

Are you trolling

[barren zephyr]

You good?

If admins can't talk to their playerbase and moderate their servers, that's a fucking issue lol

It likely WILL BE a feature, but not for another few months I recon

[carmine path]

You can’t tell me you don’t understand the fundamental problem that removing global chat is without out having something to replace it for newer players

[elder rivet]

when the moderator can't moderate! 😳

[barren zephyr]

Fr

[carmine path]

Moderators=Extinct

[barren zephyr]

Discord mods are fuming rn

[slim wing]

Global Chat needs to come back. It's really boring when you cannot talk to people for god's sake.

[carmine path]

No.

[slim wing]

Yes.

[carmine path]

Optional

Not for everyone

[barren zephyr]

Optional for server owners yes

[slim wing]

Then they need to have an "option" to turn it on or off.

[flat crypt]

im fine with it being disabled on officials, and disabled by default on unofficials with owners having the option to turn it on

[carmine path]

[barren zephyr]

And the fact that they removed it rn, without even taking admin moderation into consideration is even worse

Because the admin feature hasn't even been confirmed yet irrc

iirc *

[flat crypt]

i do not envy server owners and admins for the next little while. gonna be a rough time

[carmine path]

Microsoft better get discord otherwise this feedback channel gonna cost .01 for every keystroke

[vernal jacinth]

What makes it worse is no one can talk to admins when they desperately need it. And admins need it too so they can help people.

[carmine path]

Exactly

[barren zephyr]

@carmine path discord denied all offers homie

[carmine path]

Even better

[barren zephyr]

was confirmed a little bit ago

[carmine path]

Deino hitboxes better be fixed before Update 4 bro

[barren zephyr]

Fr dude

[carmine path]

Man I decided to play utah and all i did was just run back and forth biting the base of deinos tail while in it so the collision is fucked too

Deino has to be balls deep in a dino to bite and can still somehow miss

[worn pumice]

hopefully its fixed now

[carmine path]

Had a adult deino come up to me, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME try and bite me misses and just walks away and says “That’s awkward as shit” and just swims away

[barren zephyr]

Lmfao

[carmine path]

Deinos collision is so fucked i killed one by riding ones ass as a baby utah when they were full grown

Funny af tho

[slim wing]

@trail spade
This is a good idea as custom server owners can have this ability to turn it on or off. People who HATE Global and its toxicity can go to a server with it off, or an Official server so everyone gets what they want.

[trail spade]

Unofficial servers help bring in a variety of different players and helps keep the game going. So adding customization for server owners is honestly a must in my eyes. Why they didn't take this into consideration is beyond me

[barren zephyr]

I 100%, wholeheartedly, agree.

[mellow steppe]

Unofficial rule servers are going to suffer

[ruby cipher]

I agree with peach

[mellow steppe]

Evrima is going to be too complex for nesting and body rules

Etc

Also global chat was removed so different dinos couldn’t talk to each other. It brings more realism

[slim wing]

And if people DONT want global, they CAN go to servers with it turned off or Official servers.

[mellow steppe]

They probably won’t add back global. But maybe something like it

[slim wing]

I understand its a realism thing, but honestly playing a game where you cannot chat to people, is kind of lame/boring.

[mellow steppe]

Why you would you wanna chat with another species

[barren zephyr]

Multiplayer.. without the actual social aspect

Lame

[mellow steppe]

You can talk in chat

To your own kind

[swift dew]

50% of mulitplayer games

[mellow steppe]

The removal of global also stops mixpackers and talking from long distances

[ruby cipher]

But not every server is realism.

[mellow steppe]

The devs want players to stay with their own kind. There are no mixed herds in concepts either

[ruby cipher]

The server I play in is a mixpacking server

And I’m bored without global 🤷🏼‍♀️

[mellow steppe]

Yes ik but I was just saying what the devs want the game to be

[vestal rune]

the devs are focusing on creating their intended gameplay experience, if you want to change that you'll need mods

[mellow steppe]

^

[swift dew]

well sucks to be you, this game is survival horror, not a chatroom. if your getting your entertainment from chatting then this probably isnt the game for you

[vestal rune]

mods are planned for the future, so until then deal with the game you bought

[ruby cipher]

Well idk how long I will even play now that global is out so would love it back.

[barren zephyr]

Just. Add. An. Option. For. Community. Servers.

[vestal rune]

something is really wrong if you played this game for the global chat

[vestal rune]

Global. Will. Be. Able. To. Be. Modded. In. For. Community. Servers.

[ruby cipher]

I didn’t play it for global chat. But it’s nice to have to chat while growing or ask for slays etc

[mellow steppe]

The devs control the game, there will probably not be many non realism servers

[vestal rune]

it's not even realism, global chat is just a terrible thing for the game

[mellow steppe]

Yup

[vestal rune]

if you want to talk to your community, just go on discord

[lilac bolt]

the local chat actually brings in more realism...

[mellow steppe]

Also annoying 8 year olds yelling for admins and shit talkers if you die don’t complain welcome to the isle

[vestal rune]

don't you love it when you kill someone and they send out their coords to the whole server 🤔

[lilac bolt]

then wouldnt they be able to find you?

[vestal rune]

wdym?

[mellow steppe]

And when there’s a big update all the legacy people try the update

[lilac bolt]

or your general location? with using the coordinates

[vestal rune]

then they go back to legacy because there's no rex

[vestal rune]

coords literally give you your exact location?

like to the milimeter

[lilac bolt]

i think?

[vestal rune]

you think? they do

[mellow steppe]

They say fix this fix that and leave. They say there needs to be rules, then they make some retarded suggestion that evrima players put x on and they get mad for it

I mean look at the most recent suggestion like wtf does they even mean

[robust vine]

tbh the devs should listen to the players. the majority want a global chat option, its not like its going to ruin the game to simply have the option. everyone will be happy.

[ruby cipher]

[barren zephyr]

Good god

[flat crypt]

It's a super weird choice to not appeal to a wider playerbase though? Give me one actually good reason why they shouldn't

[vestal rune]

the players are stupid, the devs did what was good for the game itself

most of them want more dinosaurs which will utterly kill the game

[mellow steppe]

Mhm

[barren zephyr]

It'll be modded in.. in 3 years when modding is possible? Making it an official option isn't really a big deal tbh

[robust vine]

if the devs dont listen to their players nobody will want to play.

[vestal rune]

they do listen to the players, they just use their feedback and choose the best option for the game

[flat crypt]

people playing unofficial servers with different rules and gameplay styles ain't gonna ruin the game for people who like the official experience

[robust vine]

i doubt i will still be playing in 3 years

[ruby cipher]

Like we said, make it an option to disable and enable

[barren zephyr]

Same probably

[robust vine]

the majority of the feedback at the moment is for the option to enable global chat.

[swift dew]

they have already said that their choices are not based on our likes and dislikes. if they see an interesting idea they will discuss putting it in. they have already explicitly told us that global wont be returning untill modding support so

[barren zephyr]

Prefer legacy still, so if it gets deleted I'll prob go inactive on isle again

[vestal rune]

if you're only reason for playing this game was global chat then honestly you should probably leave, this clearly isn't the game for you, maybe coming back when modding is in will be a good idea

[lilac bolt]

did they fix the slope problem where you couldn't get up on the water?

[mellow steppe]

@robust vine they only listen to legit suggestions and feedback not mad legacy players

[ruby cipher]

A lot of us want global back and when devs of a game don’t listen, most people leave for another game.

[barren zephyr]

Mad legacy players?

LOL

[flat crypt]

The best option for the game's longevity as a whole is literally to enable global chat for unofficials/give unofficials wide customisation

Like. There are 0 drawbacks to doing so

And only positives

[vestal rune]

the best option for the game is to ensure all of the players are played the core gameplay experience for the best testing

[flat crypt]

You appeal to more people, you have more people buying and playing your game, and you can do it all without hurting the official experience

[robust vine]

they should also be listening to server owners. since most people dont play official servers

[vestal rune]

no offence, the fact that you prefer legacy kinda invalidates your opinion lmao

[flat crypt]

They're not exactly suffering from a lack of people willing to play official

[mellow steppe]

Well official servers won’t be chaos

[swift dew]

oh yeah, its not like this community is mostly toxic, or that it completely breaks the immersion of the game they are trying to create, and this game is supposed to be a chatroom right? right?

[vestal rune]

since DC is fixed, evrima is better than legacy

[flat crypt]

Then you don't play that server

[burnt prairie]

No Admin Slots???? hahaha good job...server is full and my admins can´t join hahahahaha

[barren zephyr]

@vestal rune Not really lol? I prefer playing it rn because of the variety of dinos and that I'm in a clan that focuses legacy atm

[flat crypt]

If the community that server cultivates isn't for you, you don't play it

[next ermine]

Invalidating others opinions in turn makes your own very invalid

[barren zephyr]

:/

[mellow steppe]

Ofc your in a clan lol

[barren zephyr]

What does that mean @mellow steppe

Am I not allowed to play with friends?

[vestal rune]

ye clan gameplay is absolutely not how the game is intended to be played, this really isn't the game for you no offence, unless I'm misinterpreting what clan means

[robust vine]

to be honest i've found most of the people who disagree with the global chat and customization options to be toxic XD

[odd sedge]

Good god can't we just silence the discord as long as these angry legacy rex mains are on here, who want Deino to have a 1249k biteforce?

[vestal rune]

when you prefer the objectively inferior game because it "has more dinosaurs :))" then no, not really

[flat crypt]

Replying to this again, sorry. Important thing to consider: If people didn't actually play official, your point would hold water. But official servers are usually pretty full from what I've seen, so they're not suffering from a lack of people willing to try out and give feedback on the intended gameplay experience

[mellow steppe]

@robust vine it’s because we are evrima players and we give good feedback and we actually keep up with evrima progress

[barren zephyr]

@vestal rune You have no authority to tell me what games are for me and which aren't. I'm very much so aware legacy isn't how the game is supposed to be played, I play it because AT THE MOMENT it has more content. And I have a fair amount of dislikes regarding evrima right now.

[flat crypt]

I repeat. There are no drawbacks to allowing community servers to have a lot of customisation. There is only positives

[barren zephyr]

My opinion may change with time

[robust vine]

@vestal rune just looking at the reactions to your feedback further proves that alot of people disagree with no global chat.

[next ermine]

Yeah really. All I see is you shitting on other people for having their own valid opinions because you're too on your high horse to let anyone else think differently from you

[vestal rune]

I'm not shitting on people, it's just that most of the people who want global chat care more for their chatroom then the longterm integrity of the game

[mellow steppe]

@robust vine I bet those are all legacy players coming over to evrima because of the update

[robust vine]

once all the hype is over people will return to legacy.

[next ermine]

I for one would like global chat, that doesn't mean I want the entire game to be a chatroom. It is just convenient to have, and if a server doesn't want it then they can disable it. No reason to remove it entirely, and just dismissing anyone who would want it as 'just wanting a chatroom' makes you look like an asshole

[mellow steppe]

Yes that will leave the legit players

[barren zephyr]

I want global as an option, for unofficial. It's not something controversial, it can easily be added, and let's server owners have more customization over their own servers. Which is what devs wanted in the first place.

[robust vine]

i will admit, i have been playing evrima for a few weeks now. but i am really missing the community aspect of legacy

[flat crypt]

yeah, i like chatting in global as I play. It doesn't mean im sitting on my ass playing birdbath, but its fun to talk to people as I roam

[mellow steppe]

And while legacy players are here they do dumb shot and make the community worse

[barren zephyr]

^^

[vestal rune]

literally the only good thing global does is being used for admins, and they can just add an admin ticket for that

[flat crypt]

chatting is hardly the be all end all, but its something people like

[vestal rune]

if you wanna chat just go on discord

[barren zephyr]

Whats the harm of having it as an-

Bruh.

[vestal rune]

what would be the benefit?

[next ermine]

Not everyone wants to sit in discord dude. The point is people want a choice, not removal of choice

[vestal rune]

instead of sitting on discord you wanna sit ingame chatting? there's like no difference

[flat crypt]

chatting with people while you're playing as a dinosaur, hunting and being hunted, is a unique experience that you don't get from chatting in discord

They certainly are not the same thing

[barren zephyr]

People have their own choices on how to play the game, which is why community servers exist. They want to play the game a certain way, not be forced to play a way they dislike.

[vestal rune]

no they are the same thing

[mellow steppe]

Why not instead of chatting in game you play the game like it’s a game

[vestal rune]

you'll be able to have all the options you want once they add modding

[paper geyser]

in-game chat promotes bird bathing, which is something the devs don't want. It'll be understandable if it's not even made optional for unofficial servers

[next ermine]

????? You don't have to sit there the whole time to use the chat. I can kill something and be in a server that has body down rule and then peruse the chat while i'm sitting there with my body. You can look at chat while roaming around, it isn't literally only ever used by people who just sit still and just talk. That's just ignorant

[flat crypt]

Why does it matter if unofficial servers become birdbaths though? It may not be the intended experience, but it does 0 harm to the official game

[mellow steppe]

The devs don’t want there game to be that

[vestal rune]

you can literally do the exact same thing with discord

[flat crypt]

I understand disliking birdbathing. But it's not necessarily a bad thing if it does not harm official servers

[mellow steppe]

Legacy players can’t agree with any of the devs choices

[paper geyser]

because it's not the intended experience. The developers don't want that to be their game, regardless of what a minority thinks

[barren zephyr]

I feel like people are misunderstanding the point.

Official servers are the intended experience. Whereas unofficial have their own rules, and more customization. A different playstyle to the game, WHICH IS LITERALLY THE POING OF UNOFFICIAL.

Point*

Whoops

[flat crypt]

Which is a rather small-minded way of thinking. That actively limits their audience

[mellow steppe]

Yeah devs don’t want unofficially servers to do that

[barren zephyr]

..

This dude

[swift dew]

multiple drawbacks

1. Breaks the immersion of a survival horror game

2. Plenty of toxicity

3. Mixpacking with randoms is very easy

4. Its not a chat room

now give me some plus sides to global

[barren zephyr]

They literally adovocted for more customization for server owners..

[nova anchor]

global turns the game into a dinosaur chatroom, it happened to legacy

[mellow steppe]

They are gonna remove the ability to grow someone eventually

[paper geyser]

Adhering to every possible demographic is how you ruin a game, not fix one. And since we're talking about customisation, should unofficial servers be allowed to change each playable's stats? That's just customisation after all.

[nova anchor]

people sitting at a lake doing nothing for 2 hours instead of actually playing the game

[flat crypt]

Having a very small and specific audience is not unheard of, don't get me wrong. Games can pull it off. But if you do that, you need to have a pretty solid intended experience that keeps your playbase entertained and engaged for a very, very extended period of time. It is a risky thing for any game to do, but in particular indie games

[flat crypt]

Honestly, yes. If they change them so much the game is no longer fun, people simply won't play that server

[vestal rune]

I remember the devs made a poll on what they should do with the game next, the results were decent but then anthomnia made a video on it, immediatly "more dinosaurs" became the biggest option, an option that would probably ruin the game like it did legacy. That's why the dev's don't just bend under the will of people who complain, it harms the game

[flat crypt]

what unofficial servers do has no impact on how people can play on the official servers

if you like the official experience, you are not harmed by this

[paper geyser]

My point is that regardless of what some people want there are things that developers won't budge on, like stat changing or bird bathing

[mellow steppe]

Unofficial servers and official servers are the same game. Devs rules in officials servers will apply to unofficial

[barren zephyr]

What..?

[swift dew]

i still havn't gotten any plus sides to global, ill just assume you guys want a chatroom

[paper geyser]

just because unofficials offer a different experience doesn't mean the developers need to give absolute freedom to unofficial server admins

[mellow steppe]

Lmao

[nova anchor]

we should definitely have a mechanic that allows admins to communicate with players but global literally ruins the game

[flat crypt]

I don't think they need full on freedom. But enough so to cater to different gameplay styles and audiences

[mellow steppe]

@nova anchor that’s what I’m saying

[vestal rune]

honestly kinda proud of them for doing them for removing global lmao, shows that they don't adhere to complainers(now I wish they'd delete legacy but they won't )

[nova anchor]

it destroyed legacy, it'll destroy evrima

[mellow steppe]

@vestal rune fr

[swift dew]

yeah, they can do that, even if global is gone. I dont understand how removing global makes it so you cant make different gameplay styles

[mellow steppe]

Also rules in unofficial servers will ruin evrima

[flat crypt]

because some people want to play the game more socially

[mellow steppe]

Evrima is a very complex game

[nova anchor]

the game isn't supposed to be a dinosaur chatroom though

[mellow steppe]

At some point it will be bob but better

[nova anchor]

if you want a dinosaur chatroom you should play path of titans

[flat crypt]

Officially no. So it doesn't have to be that way on official servers

[cyan flame]

I'll give you one. It makes the world more alive because more people are calling, and might lead to more interactions because people say all sorts of things. I'll give you a solution as well, make calls do more stuff, so they're useful, such as the invite system (iffy as that is), make nametags only show up on broadcasts, and stuff like that. Now you get much more ingame noise and calling, with a proper use, and no need for just chatting.

[vestal rune]

we already have plenty of people calling though

in fact I want less, I'm fucking sick of the constant juvie stego broadcasting

[mellow steppe]

Global chat will make this game competitive like legacy THE DEVS DONT WANT THAT

[nova anchor]

yeah there's no shortage of calls atm

[flat crypt]

I'm an easy to please person, I have played many dinosaur games and enjoyed them. So it's all well and good to say "if you want x go play y" But there are things this game does and will always do differently that are nice

[mellow steppe]

Legacy is pvp the devs want survival

[nova anchor]

the isle is supposed to be a survival horror game, it's kinda hard to be survival horror when you have someone utah RPing in chat

[robust vine]

the game will ALWAYS be competitive. a big part of this game is the PVP aspect of it.

[cyan flame]

I would agree, there's a fair amount of noise, especially the carnos seem to love the sound of their voice. But I would still like it if calls had a proper use and all that. Also I feel bad for the little steglets, they're just trying to find someone else I'm sure :p

[flat crypt]

TI has the potential to be an amazing framework for a whole host of experiences: Officially, a hardcore survival horror. But the community can deviate upon that as they will

and honestly, horror can still exist even with global chat

[mellow steppe]

@robust vine tf you mean that is not true at all

[nova anchor]

the game has pvp yes, but it's not as competitive as legacy because there's no global

[vestal rune]

I do agree that they should return the system that group tags can only be seen when calling unless you're really close(F calls for short distances, broadcasting for long), it would give a disadvantage of being in groups which is kinda dope

[mellow steppe]

When this game is more complete it will be survival

[vestal rune]

by competitive I think they mean people treating this like a fighting game rather than a survival game

[flat crypt]

IDK what servers yall have been on but I have been on plenty that have global and still feel competitive and scary

[vestal rune]

like mixpacking and shit

[barren zephyr]

If devs don't want community servers to have their own rules, experience and such, what's the point of even having one if it's just like official? Someone explain.

[nova anchor]

it wouldn't just be official because there would be customization lmao

[vestal rune]

they can have their own rules if they want, nothing's stopping them

[mellow steppe]

Rules will ruin evrima period

[flat crypt]

but you're specifically going against customisation

[robust vine]

alot of people play this game just for the pvp. hence why theres servers with no rules that allow this.

[barren zephyr]

I'm talking about what Andy said mostly

[nova anchor]

I'm not against customization, I'm against global

[barren zephyr]

He said devs don't want rules and such on unofficial lol

[vestal rune]

ye I enjoy PVP too, official servers allow this

[flat crypt]

How will global chat being enabled/optional on unofficial servers ruin official servers? Do explain

[barren zephyr]

And I'm like, huh?

[nova anchor]

I mean rules don't really work with evrima. What works better is rules enforced by in-game customized mechanics. Which is the direction they're taking.

[swift dew]

anyway, globlal isnt coming back till mod support

[mellow steppe]

^

[vestal rune]

good riddance

[nova anchor]

yes

[safe warren]

Wut has been changed since qa branch?

[mellow steppe]

not much

[vestal rune]

just hope they add the admin ticket system relatively soon

[robust vine]

the devs need to listen to their players. we want global chat back

[nova anchor]

lmao

[mellow steppe]

lmao

[flat crypt]

I'm waiting andy

[safe warren]

But still wut is it

[nova anchor]

people wanting something doesn't mean it's a good addition

[vestal rune]

they do listen to their players, but they shouldn't bend to their will, did you read what I said about the old poll?

[mellow steppe]

cry somewhere else maybe beast of bermuda discord

[barren zephyr]

No need to be rude dude

[swift dew]

sucks to be you dondi is stubborn and doesn't listen to people

[vestal rune]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[nova anchor]

it's not about listening, it's about the fact that people wanting it does not make it viable

[mellow steppe]

tbh dont blame him

[vestal rune]

oh btw I worded that weirdly, the poll occured during legacy times

[swift dew]

fr, we are idiots

[hidden field]

Idk if the realistic look of the dinosaurs are a concern of the developers but if it is the utahraptor was a feathered creature instead of the current reptilian skinned creature that's in the game it actually looks like a hypsilophodon with teeth (I definitely spelled that wrong lol)

[safe warren]

So wut has been changed since qa?

[hybrid matrix]

I think it should be a server option, but the default could be that it's turned off, so that you have to manually turn it on

[mellow steppe]

no it's not

they will probably keep the anky model

[flat crypt]

Yeah, this is what I want personally

[vestal rune]

they are gonna add feathered utah though

[mellow steppe]

ew

[barren zephyr]

Good

[nova anchor]

current utah model is ass

[barren zephyr]

I hate this anorexic ugly ass

[vestal rune]

I personally think feathered utah looks much better

as long as they do it good, a shoddy feathered utah will look terrible

[barren zephyr]

Naked utah can go die in a 40 foot hole

[nova anchor]

naked utah is disgusting, specifically the current model

[hidden field]

If they did want realistic dinosaurs and ever added a new t rex model we could look forward to a feathered t rex XD

[robust vine]

honestly, you guys are exhausting. is it really so bad to allow global chat? i really don't understand why you're so against it. Just play on the official servers lmao its not like its going to effect you guys at all.

[mellow steppe]

feel more like a dinosaur than a chicken

[vestal rune]

rex wasn't noticably feathered

[vestal rune]

chickens are dinosaurs

[barren zephyr]

Feathered t rex is inaccurate

[nova anchor]

they're literally chickens dude

[barren zephyr]

I want sue rex

Sue rex best rex

[nova anchor]

goathrob is the best rex

[mellow steppe]

ik lol

[vestal rune]

goathrob was classic

[hidden field]

T rex was feathered but it wasn't completely covered in feathers

[fringe sparrow]

you want a rex with a severely decayed mandible?

[vestal rune]

fuck yes gore system

[mellow steppe]

i like the non realistic aspect of this game

[barren zephyr]

This boye

Don't have a pic of sue rex

[nova anchor]

it's not about realism it's about it looking good, and naked utah looks fucking terrible lmao

[vestal rune]

I love shit like hypers and cannibals and shit, but naked utah just looks ugly lmao

[nova anchor]

THE best rex model

[barren zephyr]

Utah wrists are gross

[mellow steppe]

that's what i mean

[barren zephyr]

@nova anchor agreed

[barren zephyr]

if our utah was more bulky it would be fine honestly

[mellow steppe]

personally i love the anky model nobody can change my mind

[nova anchor]

good looking scaletah is possible but ours is honestly horrible

[vestal rune]

ye I think it's just because they ripped off JP velo

[nova anchor]

it literally is a fucking jp velo and I hate it

[vestal rune]

like our troodon is scaly and it actually looks good, I sort of don't even want a feathered model

[mellow steppe]

the game is a jp rip off

[nova anchor]

scaled troodon looks fantastic, honestly

[barren zephyr]

At least our Utah doesn't look as ugly as this creature

[vestal rune]

ye ik, doesn't change the fact that it looks shit

[hidden field]

Realistic t rex

[paper geyser]

don't

[barren zephyr]

EW

[vestal rune]

🤮

[nova anchor]

I think feathers would look better but the isle pulled off scaled troodon fine

[mellow steppe]

🥵

[fringe sparrow]

oh you mean the new 3d statue of her dragging away a dino?

[hidden field]

I agree XD

[barren zephyr]

Yes!

I love that picture

I think I have one of her actually

[vestal rune]

honestly wish elder rex had sue body proportions but RIP

[mellow steppe]

lol you know what i love doing. slamming legacy players in evrima because they dont know how to play

[barren zephyr]

Evrima combat isn't hard lol?

[vestal rune]

evrima combat is harder than legacy

[nova anchor]

evrima combat is much better than legacy

[vestal rune]

much higher skill cieling

[mellow steppe]

mhm

[nova anchor]

legacy combat was actual dogshit

[vestal rune]

legacy combat was fucking ass

[mellow steppe]

horrible

[barren zephyr]

I've clapped plenty of people, it's not complicated

I do agree its better though

[flat crypt]

it depends on what you are tbf

[barren zephyr]

I like the variety of attacks

[vestal rune]

they were probably bad if you just clapped them

[flat crypt]

stego gameplay isn't that hard to get your head around. stuff like teno and carno require more care and thought

[barren zephyr]

Not really no

[mellow steppe]

when bird came out i killed so many people as dryo because people are dumb

[vestal rune]

like, utahs can die instantly to stegos, or they can slowly bleed them out until they die, it's great lmao

[barren zephyr]

You can't really measure combat skill anyways, since everyone is equally good unless theyre.. of course.. retarded

[barren zephyr]

I hope it stays like that to be honest

[vestal rune]

I mean you can't really measure it, but wdym everyone is equally good?

[hidden field]

Ngl idk what baby utahs should hunt everything ive found is so much bigger and kills it

[barren zephyr]

I kinda contradicted myself there @vestal rune

stego should be simple to understand, it just makes sense considering how dumb it was in real life

[vestal rune]

there is actual skill to evrima combat

[swift dew]

nah I was a super skilled utahraptor in legacy, I tail rode every rex in sight. I once 1v15ed rexes as a utahraptor, it was super easy because legacy hitboxes arent broken and dinosaurs definitly couldn't turn on the dime or walk backwards im super skilled haha

[flat crypt]

i dont think stego would ever be that hard. smack with tail, dont let them bite head. rather straight forward, just a matter of pulling it off

[rugged fulcrum]

@nova anchor why do u say no.

[nova anchor]

Fuck global.

[barren zephyr]

Evrima combat wasn't that hard to learn, I feel as if it's more so strategy than skill

[nova anchor]

Global killed legacy, it'll kill evrima

[mellow steppe]

@mellow maple i agree

[vestal rune]

I mean it's both

[barren zephyr]

I guess so in a way

[vestal rune]

@barren zephyr if you wanna talk to people while growing just go on discord lol

[barren zephyr]

Play smart, and know how to play

So you are correct

[vestal rune]

yes

ye I imagine more skill will be added to evrima's combat in the future

[barren zephyr]

I hope so

[flat crypt]

not everyone likes discord for that scenario, fire

[barren zephyr]

Itd make for more fun

[flat crypt]

you can't keep tabbing between discord and the game to chat, and not everyone is comfortable with VC

[nova anchor]

lmfao

[vestal rune]

but even rn it has a much higher skill ceiling than legacy

there's no difference, literally 0

[barren zephyr]

Yes I agree

[nova anchor]

it's always so funny when people complain about evrima not being dogshit like legacy

[barren zephyr]

More potential for mechanics and combat in general

[swift dew]

bye leo! I wont be seeing you in evrima 👋

[flat crypt]

it's just nice to be able to remain in-game while talking. tabbing in and out gets frustrating

[nova anchor]

or, you could treat the game like a survival game rather than a dinosaur chatroom lmao

[swift dew]

good thing this game isnt a chatroom

[nova anchor]

evrima's supposed to be a survival horror game

not a chatroom

[flat crypt]

or, hot take. it doesnt matter what unofficial servers are like

[nova anchor]

if you want a chatroom, go play path of titans

[flat crypt]

it has 0 impact on your experience on official servers

[vestal rune]

it's literally just alt + tab, how is that a pain?

[nova anchor]

discord overlay

[sudden hinge]

Please anyone that torn up from global being disabled please switch to legacy

[nova anchor]

^

[barren zephyr]

2 monitor moment B)

[rugged fulcrum]

@nova anchor please tell me how "global chat killed legacy"

[nova anchor]

yeah... and?

[flat crypt]

Once again: Why does it matter what unofficial servers are like if it does not impact official servers

[barren zephyr]

I mostly play with friends, and having discord on your other monitor is like a godsend tbh

[nova anchor]

people sitting at a lake for 2 hours typing more than playing. Evrima's a survival horror game, not a dinosaur chatroom.

[rugged fulcrum]

its a survival game

not horror

[nova anchor]

survival horror

it is a horror game

it's intended to be, and it is the direction evrima is taking

[hidden field]

Honestly I like not haveing chat at all it makes it feel more realistic but I do think you should still be able to choose between haveing global chat or just hideing chat box

[rugged fulcrum]

if it scares you then i feel really bad

[ruby cipher]

I still want global back simple as that.

I love chatting with people in the server.

[nova anchor]

legacy was not a horror game due to it being a fucking dinosaur chatroom lmao

[flat crypt]

it's meant to be survival horror. evrima isn't super horror-y yet, but it's the direction they're taking

[barren zephyr]

Man oh fuck carnos are SUPER SCARY JESUS CHRIST

[nova anchor]

yep

[barren zephyr]

Nearly shit myself looking at a stego today

[worn pumice]

bruh who just posted that bullshit in general lol

[vestal rune]

almost like the game is incomplete and i smissing most of the horror elemenats

[worn pumice]

salty af

[rugged fulcrum]

any unoffical server should have that option for global chat

[vestal rune]

plus, deino can scare the shit out of you

[rugged fulcrum]

to keep on or off

[crystal sage]

Lol someone be salty in feedback

[rugged fulcrum]

yea it can scare u, not have multiple jump scares

[sudden hinge]

@hasty jackal you mad

[barren zephyr]

LOL

the isle five nights at freddies

Dude I cant

Im out

[hidden field]

I never seen it as a horror game (but I mean Ive spent the past 4 years playing horror games so it's gotten harder to scare me in a video game environment)

[mellow maple]

@hasty jackal I kinda half agree but mostly don't. Stolen? No. Uninspired, yeah lol

[flat crypt]

Also, important point: If the devs really wanted the entire game to be one specific experience, what would be the point of allowing modding in the future?

[rugged fulcrum]

exactly, I see a horror game being phasmophobia

[flat crypt]

Because modding actively changes the game, often quite drastically and frequently outside of the devs control

[hasty jackal]

i would say stolen since it sounds almost the same

[crude girder]

Also the music isn't from Jurassic World Evolution, it's a part of The Isle's OST

[vestal rune]

well currently like I said the game is missing most of its horror elements

plus the horror angle is meant to be experienced from the human's perspective, not dinosaurs

[mellow maple]

I know for a fact it has no JWE music. I fucking mod that game and listen to its boring ass music all the time. Not a single track was used for that trailer

[sudden hinge]

A big portion of the horror is human gameplay so once there in e ready to be scared

[nova anchor]

the only part of the isle that is a JP knockoff is the utah, and most of us hate that thing anyways

[hasty jackal]

ok

[nova anchor]

plus it's due for a remodel deep in the future

[worn pumice]

wouldnt rly say stolen

[hidden field]

Yhea but it's also just really hard to make a multiplayer pvp survival game scary and fun too

[swift dew]

you monkey, its not horror yet, however they are going in the direction of horror

[hasty jackal]

but its so hard inspired that it is almost the same

[barren zephyr]

The isles rex kind of resembles rexie, KIND OF

Not 100%

[vestal rune]

the music is fully original as far as I know

[barren zephyr]

The Utah though? 100%

[vestal rune]

not even inspired

[nova anchor]

isle rex is nothing like rexie

[crude girder]

Being inspired by =/= using the exact same thing

[nova anchor]

the utah is a copy paste though

[vestal rune]

the calls are like rexie

[barren zephyr]

Mhm

[ripe bear]

I can hear how close it sounds to each other. wow so creative to just use another already existing piece. I had that feeling already with the evrima ambedience music ingame. Reminds me a lot of Land before time and old jurassic park genesis 😂

[barren zephyr]

Whenever I play rex, I think of JP

[crude girder]

Otherwise every song that shares a genre is the same song because they have several things in common

[hidden field]

Scariest thing Ive noticed in the isle though is when your new your a small baby and you hear the adult roars in the distance and you have no idea what it is if it's going to kill you or anything

[sudden hinge]

I just think it’s super critical and insulting of seizas work coming at the trailer like that like I get being upset with dondi but like she worked hard on that and you weren’t even constructive @hasty jackal

[hasty jackal]

this one is clearly made to manipulate the audience tho

[nova anchor]

LMAO

[vestal rune]

what?

[nova anchor]

no way you're serious

[worn pumice]

what r u even on about lol

[icy lion]

jwe released 2018 right? do we know when that isle track came out?

[hasty jackal]

i critized the music and the exsistence of this hype trailer

[sudden hinge]

You just sound mad and I won’t be taking anything you say seriously dude @hasty jackal

[rugged fulcrum]

how tho, how are they gonna turn it into a survival horror, u really cant, i mean look at the forest, its a survival game sure, it has horror elements but it doesnt make u s*** yourself or scare the life out of u

[hasty jackal]

the trailer iself is well produced

[vestal rune]

"hype trailer", you do know what trailers are right?

[flat crypt]

Regardless of that, devs have made it pretty clear modding is gonna be a thing

[ripe bear]

Then Seiza should start doing origional stuff instead of getting so heavily "inspired" by another dino game. 🤨

[crude girder]

That's... that's how music works?

[rugged fulcrum]

if all u see is blood as the main element to making a horror game then ur far off lol

[vestal rune]

what? she didn't do that?

[flat crypt]

And if they don't allow community servers with customisation, I expect modding will actually be pretty popular

[nova anchor]

good music makes you feel emotion, lmao

[hidden field]

The forest is just funny to me lol

[crude girder]

Music for products like movies games or trailers is made to manipulate the audience

[hasty jackal]

im not just mad, hear me out

[sudden hinge]

I don’t get how a hype trailer is a problem bro

[nova anchor]

"isle bad because I hate dondi "

[barren zephyr]

Meh, her work is okay in my book. I take a few video editing/video production classes so I'm not too amazed by her work. It's good, but just okay imo.

[rugged fulcrum]

tbh yea, i was never a fan of it

[vestal rune]

what's to be improved about it? just wondering

[crude girder]

and in the case of Dinosaur products, Jurassic Park is a big player in that sound, so sounding like it/Land before time/Walking with is going to help make your music sound like a dinosaur product

if The Isle's ost was like, J-pop, it wouldn't be very fitting imo

[hidden field]

It's super super hard to make a survival multiplayer horror game

[flat crypt]

I mean. universal aint gonna care if this game allows modding. They might care if people try modding in copyrighted material

[sudden hinge]

What hyper said

[rugged fulcrum]

i mean its a good, well not even good, its a well built game but its just, meh ig

[hasty jackal]

the trailer is clearly made to speak to jurassic world fans, the dinosaurs look heavily inspired the music is heavily inspired, it is made to catch the attention of a big audience for something so little as update 3

[nova anchor]

lmao what the fuck

are you high

[vestal rune]

jesus christ a new conspiracy theory, definitely don't have enough of those

[nova anchor]

"something as little as update 3"

[worn pumice]

"something so little as update 3"

[barren zephyr]

I'm not saying it's bad, I like some of the visual transitions for sure. I'd need to watch the trailer again, to give you a more detailed description of what I personally think could be improved.

[sudden hinge]

You can read the update notes tho and update 3 is by no means a small update

[crude girder]

Dinosaur product is attempting to remind people of other, popular dinosaur product, it happens all the time in every form of media so I don't know what makes Update 3's trailer different

[sudden hinge]

Like they put a lot of work into it

[barren zephyr]

Oh you edited your message, sorry didn't see that lol

[vestal rune]

maybe post it in #general-feedback if you're willing to put the time in

[nova anchor]

update 3 is pretty fucking big lmao

[flat crypt]

massive studios usually don't take notice of small indie games getting modded. Take a look at all the copyrighted material in minecraft mods. but if TI implements an "official" way of modding (submitting stuff to the workshop for example) they'll be able to control what people try to add

[vestal rune]

ye I realised it came off the wrong way lol

[hidden field]

The only time I've seen multiplayer horror survival work was slender man multiplayer XD

[barren zephyr]

Yeah of course, if I take some time to analyze it I definitely will

[ripe bear]

then listen to the JWE soundtrack and the Isle Trailer again. Aswell as evrima background music and the old jurassic park genesis & Land before time soundtracks. a lot of elements in these songs clearly sound like it was heavily inspired. Its like doing a cover of an already existing song. Still the same song just changed a bit here and there or making it metal doesnt make it original tho.

[hasty jackal]

the fact that the trailer exsists, there shouldnt be a trailer for a small update in a 5+ years old game that isnt even the mainbranch yet

[barren zephyr]

Isn't isles OST from like 2017...?

[icy lion]

oh here we go

[sudden hinge]

These update trailers are fine they bring a new hype to the game and doesn’t affect anything negatively

[vestal rune]

no the covers are fully original, they didn't take any elements, they're maybe similar but that's because they're a similar genre

[worn pumice]

ah yes update 3 is small

[nova anchor]

small update

[worn pumice]

[hasty jackal]

all the isle is is hype, it cant stand on its own yet

[flat crypt]

man what a wild argument. fun fact, creativity is dead and every artist is inspired, to say otherwise is lying. the trailer sounding somewhat like JWE is not the end of the world

[crude girder]

Well Evrima isn't 5+ years old so there's that, lots of people were hyped for the update so the trailer makes sense, Seiza only got hired because they made an awesome fan trailer for Update 2 that everyone wanted, etc

[barren zephyr]

Update 3 has been in the works for 5-ish months. It's clearly a very tiny update guys c'mon.

[flat crypt]

fair point, this entire game is basically a badly disguised love note to jurassic park lmao

[hidden field]

Yhea hasn't anyone noticed there's a human faction tab and human facilities

[sudden hinge]

I mean I’ve got plenty of hours on evrima and I’ll continue to put more on it hype or not

[vestal rune]

yes humans are planned for the game, they've been planned since day 1

[hasty jackal]

the deino has been in the works since 2019 or 2018 it only shows how slow they work and how much they ride on hype

[nova anchor]

deino was only in development these past few months what the fuck are you on about

[vestal rune]

it had a fucking incomplete model back then, they only recently actually worked on it

[barren zephyr]

The model i recall was, but the mechanica and everything? That took time

[hasty jackal]

look when the animations came out

[barren zephyr]

https://youtu.be/GJC1MZ8XxQM

[crude girder]

Deino wasn't in active development that entire time you know, just cause a model and a walk cycle existed then doesn't mean it was a feature being actively worked on

[worn pumice]

or maybe just maybe they were developing evrima so that deino can actually be worked on

[nova anchor]

it had a model and a single animation

they didn't start development on it until update 3

[hasty jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJcvlDJrz8A&ab_channel=TheIsle

[nova anchor]

lmfao

[hasty jackal]

look at the date

[barren zephyr]

PREVIEW.

[hidden field]

Works for star citizen lol

[nova anchor]

that's not "in development"

PREVIEW

[barren zephyr]

PRE. VIEW.

[nova anchor]

you know what that word means?

[vestal rune]

preview

[ripe bear]

wrong. Covers are never original. not the lyrics not the music itself. Its just a genre switch or changed a bit but the song already exists and it doesnt show much talent to sing just covers and then say "I am a songwriter, i produce my own music" maybe look up the definition of cover again lmao

[sudden hinge]

It’s a preview dude Jesus the deino argument is so stale at this point

[hasty jackal]

well then point out how much changed

[nova anchor]

what

[barren zephyr]

Earliest version I can find of isle OST was 4-5 years ago, in 2016.

[swift dew]

first of all, why did they change its teeth to what we have now, these look so much better

[icy lion]

theyve changed drastically

the 3 call for example looks and sounds 100% different

[hasty jackal]

what has changed since the "preview"

[vestal rune]

ok, but the isle's music isn't a cover, so that point literally doesn't matter?

[vestal rune]

deino actually works mechanically ingame and is not just an animation showcase?

[nova anchor]

a lot of stuff, the preview was just a small, fun, sneak peak at the distant future

[crude girder]

Plus you know how animals have around a hundred animations each? most of the animations for Deino weren't even completed until recently, as the roadmap shows

[barren zephyr]

Listen to this, and tell me it sounds like a cover lmao.

https://youtu.be/GJC1MZ8XxQM

[nova anchor]

isle music 🥵

[barren zephyr]

2016, by the original composter as well!

Composer *

[nova anchor]

I can't wait for music implementation in update 4

[sudden hinge]

It’s an actual playable that has mechanics that can function on the island like it’s completely built up more and better

[barren zephyr]

Oh im fucking hyped for iy

It *

[hasty dagger]

The Trailer music sounds super similar to lego Jurassic World in some places

[hasty jackal]

mate look at the model and the animations they were almost done in 2019

[hidden field]

I feel like the game is less of horror and more of trying to recreate a realistic dinosaur ecosystem and put you in the shoes and teach you the struggle that dinosaurs went through to survive

[silver zephyr]

music is coming in update 4 ?

[vestal rune]

to anyone who's viewing this, the isle's music was made BEFORE lego JW

[hasty jackal]

its almost "stolen" from jurassic world ip in general

[nova anchor]

"they were almost done" what the fuck are you on about, do you know anything about this game? The animations weren't even finished when the fucking stress test launched

[inner hound]

game has music in it.its a

[vestal rune]

oh actually no I may be wrong

[crude girder]

You do know that the animations in the preview video were the only animations completed for the animal at the time right? And that the rest of the 100+ animations were made recently?

[barren zephyr]

Isle to me feels like it's trying to be a realistic game, but at the same time fantasy. Maybe a love tribute to JP? Joking obviously

[hasty jackal]

ye thats the sad part, they worked on it since 2019 and it only now comes out

[vestal rune]

isle is trying to be sci-fi, so ye you're right lmao

[hasty dagger]

Lego Jurassic world is 2015 mate

[barren zephyr]

Sci-fi for sure

I think that was confirmed by punch

[nova anchor]

they weren't actively working on it until a few months ago

jesus christ

how hard is this to understand

[crude girder]

It's almost like they made Tenontosaurus, Stegosaurus, Hypsilophodon, Carnotaurus, and the remaining animations for Pteranodon and Deinosuchus in the meantime

[hasty jackal]

how is the model done in 2019 then

[ripe bear]

Listen to the songs again and you will see that the Isle songs are basically covers. They are unoriginal and heavily inspired. Its clear to hear for everyone who has played both games or consumed said franchises.

[nova anchor]

the preview did not mark the start of them working on it

[barren zephyr]

It's like you're talking to a brick wall dude @nova anchor

Lmao

[worn pumice]

holy fucking shit ur slow they worked on it for 2-3 months now

[nova anchor]

fucking seriously

[worn pumice]

not 2 years

[hidden field]

Honestly I kinda don't want humans to be in the isle but I love the idea of haveing human buildings to explore as a dino

[vestal rune]

no, you're speaking straight out of your ass

[crude girder]

God we've had the Rex model for 2 years now, why didn't it grow its animations yet?

[barren zephyr]

Yeah guys they're covers, isle is all a big SCAM!

[ripe bear]

says the person who doesnt even know what a cover is. Try again 😉

[hasty jackal]

mate as i said, if its a preview then what has changed since then?

[barren zephyr]

@ripe bear Define cover.

[hasty jackal]

when it comes to animations and the model

[silver zephyr]

[vestal rune]

I know what a cover is lmfao, the isle just doesn't have covers

[nova anchor]

pretty much everything lmfao

the 100+ animations needed, the coding, the implementation

[ripe bear]

already did, look up my comments above

[barren zephyr]

Alright will do

I wanted to know your own definition of a cover

[icy lion]

the isle and its music were released before jwe

[crude girder]

The model doesn't have to change when an animal goes into active development, that's when they put the rest of the 100+ animations in, do all the coding, mechanics, etc. A model and a walk cycle can sit on a shelf for years if needed.

[zinc anvil]

lets chill and just enjoy the game or give real feedback and not fight like children for once. have a good day

[sudden hinge]

Literally all the new animations swimming diving lunge interactions with the rest of the roster so many people have told you what changed but you aren’t listening lol

[swift dew]

we already told you, about half of those animations were severely changed, and the other half was altered in some way, and with all of the new animations that they had to do, along with alot of coding, and polishing. not to mention if they started coding in 2019 then that is before the recode and the code they had done then is rendered useless

[hasty jackal]

but thats my point the model and animations are from 2019 it was in development since 2019

[silver zephyr]

[crude girder]

If there is no coding, additional animations, texture work, or mechanics being added, is the animal being developed?

[nova anchor]

holy fuck you are slow. Do you know what the word "preview" means?

[urban flax]

Just read through all that discussion
I'm happy to see that some people never change
I was worried at first when I saw people on Isle reddit were chilling out, but this made my day

[worn pumice]

ur actually mentally deficient, its been in development for a few months not years

[barren zephyr]

This soundtrack will forever stay in my heart. First OST I heard while playing the game
https://youtu.be/0UYURvKWq2M

[hasty jackal]

the "developments" starts when the creature begins being made, so model textures coding animations so on

[nova anchor]

"Guys they released a teaser of it in 2019 that must mean it was in full development since then"

[swift dew]

they had done a few, very very basic things for deino and ptera before january

[crude girder]

Yes but "Active" development is working on it with the point being rapid implementation

[swift dew]

the rest was done in the past few months

[sudden hinge]

And they have a literal roadmap showing you the process of what they are working on...

[worn pumice]

[hasty jackal]

how could they release a trailer if it wasnt in deveolpment

[nova anchor]

[swift dew]

key word, FULL

[sudden hinge]

[nova anchor]

holy shit

[hasty jackal]

how could they make a model without developing it

[zinc anvil]

okay just because the model is done dont mean its ready to be added to the game.and im pretty sure somethings changed from the model from years ago anyway

[nova anchor]

teaser =/= development

[hasty jackal]

thats not what im saying

[silver zephyr]

lets just say active development instead

[zinc anvil]

okay so what are you saying sum it all up?

[hasty dagger]

Nobody is saying that Jesus Christ

[ripe bear]

lmao you guys. development starts with the first brain storming and concept arts. Stop creating new words just to excuse your ignorance of game creation XD

[zinc anvil]

what are you unhappy about with the game?

[hasty jackal]

thats exactly what they are saying tho

[hasty dagger]

No, you’re twisting words

[sudden hinge]

You’ve been twisting words this entire time bro

[hasty jackal]

multiple things, look up

[urban flax]

So you're convinced they're currently developing humans, right ? Making their animations, mechanics and all, right now ?

[hasty dagger]

[silver zephyr]

this is just a semantics battle, at some point it was in development but was then left on the shelf for a while and began active development a few months ago

[zinc anvil]

lets not pick fights everyone stop

[hasty jackal]

ok im done here, honestly what is happening

[vestal rune]

Fracger you're using the fact that the model was made in 2019 to use as evidence that the devs work slow, completely ignoring the fact that deino was put on hold and was only properly worked on in the last few months

[hasty dagger]

👋

[ripe bear]

stop lying. he kept on his pont. while you ppl created new words foer developement like "active development" and such.

[sudden hinge]

You keep saying that these things were in active development when they weren’t

[worn pumice]

active development isnt a new word

[hasty dagger]

Active Development is a common phrase

[sudden hinge]

[vestal rune]

"new words like 'active development' "

please tell me you're a troll

[ripe bear]

which means it was already in development since 2019 with full model and all that.

[hasty dagger]

[vestal rune]

yes the model was made, NOTHING ELSE a part from a few animations

because dieno STOPPED being developed until a few months ago

they focused on OTHER THINGS

you understand?

[hoary dawn]

deino has been in development for a long ass time, it just hasn't been in full focus until update 3

[sudden hinge]

I can’t with this bro it’s not that hard to understand

[crude girder]

Nah clearly development can't be put on hold, all things develop at the same speed, which is why all the animals are coming out at once, and are all being worked on at the same time

[ripe bear]

So it was already made then. Model and some animations already done. You have no idea how many hours goes into just making a model do you? XD

[carmine path]

Never seen such a hostile approach to a developing game

[hasty jackal]

guys pls start using your brains and think about what i said from the start critically, im literally just here to give my concerns about the quality of this game and all you do is get buthurt

[silver zephyr]

[vestal rune]

yes a lot of hours go into making a models, but SO MANY MORE go into making the mechanics and fixing the bugs

[crude girder]

The Trello shows what's being working on right now, if it's not marked as In development then it's not being worked on

[hasty dagger]

How the hell does a model constitute to finished product

[carmine path]

There was no criticism this is just shitting on the game

[hasty jackal]

its not tho read my messages pls

[silver zephyr]

basically deino was in development for a bit, then not for a while, then began active development a few months ago

[vestal rune]

your criticism was "deino had a model in 2019, devs work slow, isle bad"

[sudden hinge]

No you didn’t tho you threw a bitch fit in feedback and weren’t critical at all and now your in here mincing our words to fit your ideal thought process

[ripe bear]

even if they pause the development the Deino was still IN development because they did intent to use it later. And thats a fact.