general-feedback-discussion

[vagrant phoenix]

The server is NA, I'm in EU, and in Germany which has weak internet, so even in my region I get about 60 ping, on Mettas server I get 130 ping, it's not fun playing Omni or troodon with the lag lol

[junior nymph]

yeah I just live in australia so I average 110-130 ping

but I find that still playable on troodon and raptor for some whacky reason

[normal shuttle]

True

[dreamy bough]

Saw your post in general feedback and was absolutely shocked to see how beautiful the game used to look. I’ve been playing regularly since September 2024 and while the map always looked good (until now) I never knew that the game used to look like a true UE5 title. Reposting the video for more to see. Go to the part where the Galli is drinking, absolutely stunning wtf. https://youtu.be/ffg38PKdDsg

[indigo gulch]

Yeah it has TANKED

[pliant elm]

I miss when the map was beautiful and the fps was good, now the map is ugly and the fps is even worse

[wheat nova]

✅ cha ching]

[dense heath]

@craggy flower I wish they would add stam regen when gliding, but that may make them a little too OP.
I have noticed once you get over a certain growth gliding doesn't drain stamina anymore.
I believe they may be pushing PT to utilize the heights of the mountains and trees with latching. Going to the ground being a massive risk.

[craggy flower]

I do not think it would make them op every other dino has the same thing. crocs regen while swimming over 60% Maybe once water AI is fixed it won't be as bad but it's awful right now.

[woven bane]

yea maybe but i think it’s good as is

[urban flax]

That's why ptera doesn't do bleed

[wheat nova]

@pliant musk the devs said we will be able to choose between paleo and hollywood calls

[junior nymph]

@pliant musk rex is getting paleo calls

[pliant musk]

YO?!?!?!

[bronze niche]

that is genuinely crazy

that you will be able to swap inbetween them

i wonder how that will even work, although i thought i heard something about rexs broadcast being hollywood and the rest paleo

[full pewter]

Yea the Rex will have both

[pliant musk]

🔥

[sharp sentinel]

does anyone think that lowereing ceratoes bite force would fix somethings?

[pliant musk]

nah I think their bite's fine as is

[sharp sentinel]

i suppose, id be fine though with 125 - 100 because most ceras hunt in packs, and it kinda weird have one of the strogest current predetors fight with four to seven other ceras lol

[wheat nova]

dude a solo cera got my 80% maia to yellow

[mint helm]

@jaunty isle They nerfed deino not only by glitching fish ai but also yes by creating safe drinking spots

[jaunty isle]

ahaa

yeah and also how is beipo gonna eat?

[mint helm]

And also you can create yourself a safe drinking spot by getting the salt water mutation

[jaunty isle]

yeah true

[mint helm]

Then you have no problem drinking bc there's not gonna be ANY crocs in salt waters

[jaunty isle]

Yeah but as long as Im not near the sea I dont think I will go there just to drink but some people might, and yeah also south plains has a lil salt water lake which has clear water where u can also drink completely safe with salt mut

[normal shuttle]

Everything fights in groups, that’s a bad argument for that is effectively a 33% damage nerf (HUGE)

Ceras are just everywhere because it’s easy to grow

If rex was easy to grow as well then there would be large groups of them too, and that doesn’t mean we should lower their damage

Because neither cera nor rex are intended pack hunters

[normal shuttle]

Tbf deino was always garbo

Luckily it is getting a rework soon

[urban flax]

@clear canyon
Talons ? What talons ?

Also 4 hours to grow a ptera is crazy

[clear canyon]

if they make them larger though, more competitive the growth rate would have to be increased, it would make sense...

4hrs without perfect diet isn't that bad if it's larger and can put up more of a fight imo

[urban flax]

You just want quetz

[clear canyon]

and i'm tellin you if one of those swooped by your head and smacked you with those you'd be screamin for help

[urban flax]

A crow's claws would literally hurt more than ptera's

[clear canyon]

I doubt it seriously, the weight and momentum difference doesn't compare to the small sharp claws of a crow.. granted crows are one of the most dangerous small bird species

the ptera could just push us over and then continue to peck at us... i'm smacking a crow out of the air if it continues to try to bite or claw at me

lol bodying that crow

[urban flax]

How do peopls see pteras massive beak and think "wow this creature should use its (nonexistent) claws to kill things

[clear canyon]

it wouldn't use them to kill things...

[urban flax]

goddamn noodle feet

[clear canyon]

you're assuming and we know what that does 😉

[urban flax]

So what's in your suggestion ? An attack that doesn't deal damage ?

[clear canyon]

It could deal a small minute amount of damage.. but my suggestion was being able to push things mainly... a claw attack to the back was just thrown in there

[urban flax]

Ptera is 45kg
It's not knocking things over

Again, what you're asking for is just quetz

[clear canyon]

100lbs flying at you is def knocking over a small carno and herra... what

physics man i'm done arguing lol

[urban flax]

I'm sorry I don't count in drunken lobster units
Also no
Not with how CC works in this game anyway

[clear canyon]

which is why it's a "suggestion" to make "changes" ... just making a fool of yourself imo

[urban flax]

I'm not the one who asks to turn ptera into a quetz clone

[jaunty isle]

Then how can it outpace pachy everytime?

[urban flax]

Mutations

[normal shuttle]

B r u h

Ptera isn’t mean to be some combat jet fighting eagle

[faint folio]

If the cera has speed mutations and pachy doesn't, cera will be faster

[normal shuttle]

And the rework is incomplete

We don’t know how good it will be later on

[normal shuttle]

Also this ^^^

[normal shuttle]

Photo tissue or nocturnal probably

You NEED those for pachy, as well as congenital

It’s so sad how only one build is the optimal one and even then you’re still at the mercy of omni, carno and dilo groups for the most part

[clear canyon]

Screwww it turn em into an apache helicopter

I want deino teeth, cera paws, and 12x larger

[clear canyon]

Go play an unofficial with rules 🤷‍♂️

[willow kiln]

so all official servers will be unplayable that sounds like a good game haha

[clear canyon]

Bahahhaa we thought the same thing would happen with trike and it only did for a few days now everyone is back to their mains

[willow kiln]

thats different though, thats a herbivore, trex needs to eat people

[clear canyon]

Either that or limit people like you’re asking and forcing people to play something they don’t want to play 🤷‍♂️ I feel like would be the only two options idk

[willow kiln]

and will eat everything and anything it needs to

[clear canyon]

I see your point. More ppl would naturally WANT to play it. Hmmm

Good point.

It got an upvote from me either way 🤙🏼

[willow kiln]

I kinda messed up in the post i think herbis are fine

carnis not so much

[clear canyon]

No you did fine you said Apex Pred. We just have to read clearly.

[proper pine]

heyo, my friend got auto banned when joining because he didnt have a pfp. is there a way for him to get unbanned? his user is Bread0828

[clear canyon]

Not in this chat pal.

<@&401466542140817419>

[proper pine]

what chat then, is this not feedback?

[willow kiln]

idk if this is true but some people were saying they might not even put rex in official servers and just have it for unofficials

[clear canyon]

Not a public ban appeal chat go on, get

[willow kiln]

like they were saying the devs were making it seem that way

[proper pine]

ew

[willow kiln]

i think you gotta make a ticket

[proper pine]

how do you do that?

[willow kiln]

i think in the main menu of the game or somewhere in the discord im not sure i never done it

[hoary ocean]

Go to #rules-and-info and scroll to the bottom and send your friend the appeal link

[clear canyon]

Check here https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401465366615949322

[proper pine]

ty

[clear canyon]

Okay as we were talking about reading clearly … nah your suggestion does make sense. I think it would be a good thing. But obv we’ll always have that 50/50 split so the issue I see is limiting people on what they’re playing. Putting that rule in place is just gate keeping others even more. Whether we’d like to admit it or not. Rather than just letting people play what they want when they want.

But I get not wanting 75/100 players being a dang Trex. I’d probably rage quit and break my keyboard.

So I think it’d just have to blow over like the first day of trike’s. I mean it was just about 75/100 being a herbi to the point there was 0 AI food spawning for carni’s

[candid hatch]

i wonder if this was intentional https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N18rImazaSc&list=TLPQMDMwNzIwMjXT2zUGUfF_gw&index=1

[modest dock]

i don't think so, apparently it was a hacker that succeed at entering QA and using rex to leak some footage, which is unlikely.

[tame jetty]

I mean, that's what they should be for. Not doing bad stuff or harming people but benefiting the general population and community with nice and no-harm stuff 🫂

[candid hatch]

ah ok

[limber hull]

that almost absolutely did not happen

if it did, the devs would know EXACTLY who it is

it would also mean the hacker exploited security flaws in not just The Isle, but in steam itself, or has an insider in QA feeding them the password to get into the QA branch

[limber hull]

"no-harm"

it's creating an inaccurate view of an incomplete animal for the general population before it's ready, thus setting expectations that may not be met

[sudden hinge]

@vagrant dune deino really doesn’t need a bite buff it’s an ambush predator and does just fine hunting

[tired quest]

@round bay
have you scouted the outskirts of sanctuary

[round bay]

yup, even the paths and nearby cliffs just in case

[tired quest]

played on unofficial yesterday, have no issue with mushroom
atleast the one near water access works

[round bay]

i think its delta sanc and the one below west rail

[vernal jacinth]

Those two I always find maybe a couple waaaaaay in the back if I’m lucky no one is there first

[junior nymph]

@dim bane they are adding paleo calls too lol

[junior nymph]

@clear sandal its not even out yet 💀 you are judging a rex that is 6 months old

[limber hull]

People giving feedback on leaks now lol

[junior nymph]

yep LMAO

[modest dock]

Weeeelll i was thinking the same cause that's actually weird. We do not rly know what happened i guess

Which is why i said apparently cause its only rumors, not facts

But for some reason too many people stated that it was a hacker, but i couldn't see any reliable source to that

[normal shuttle]

Give it rockets too

[modest dock]

Okay so there is definitely no hack (obviously), punch confirmed it was some files left in the game and somehow, some people find out how to get access to it. It doesn't brother them as it servers as a "good distraction until next HT", i have to say i think its way better, hacking would have been so bad for them.

[limber hull]

its not a hack, but i still dont think its safe to join those servers lol

[modest dock]

Yeah i dont think its a good idea

Didn't even knew we could access those

[normal shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389369705684402187/1390532620537827358/Video_sem_titulo_Feito_com_o_Clipchamp.gif

this gif is legendary regardless

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1390572898221166613/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

same as this one, the throw gets me every time

[urban flax]

The fact rex can do that makes me already more hyped about its inclusion in the game

[normal shuttle]

reminds me of that one meme, lemme find

[urban flax]

Also it makes me hopeful for magy having the same ability as seen in concept art

[normal shuttle]

that would be glorious

[normal shuttle]

also this, check it out

absolute cinema

wrong gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1390484414039068833/1390510290306732102/IMG_5811.gif?=

with a large juvi rex, so potentially dilos or even sub ceras

[urban flax]

This is hilarious

[normal shuttle]

and the fact that even juvi rex has it...

[urban flax]

Hope the amount of time a rex can hold something in its mouth is very limited tho
I wouldn't want players to be forced to watch their dino helplessly wriggle inside a rex mouth for 1 minutes as the rex decides on what to do with them

[normal shuttle]

true lol

extended death cutscene animation

in all honesty though, it would be a shame if Magy really didn't have any of that

[urban flax]

I really hope it does
Throwing troodons into orbit like in concept art

I want to be a magy and play beachball with a juvie rex

(The ball being another, smaller juvie rex)

[normal shuttle]

Although my only problem is how useful that would be to justify it as an actual mechanic

[urban flax]

It's more funny than a 300 damage bite that just straight-up oneshots things

Also maybe it can be useful against groups if you can throw dinos on each other and deal damage that way
Weaponize their own friends agaisnt them

And if you throw a ptera it deals extra sharp damage due to the aerodynamism and beak
Pteranodon (ballista bolt niche)

[normal shuttle]

I was thinking about maybe being able to use smaller critters (and maybe even not so small) as a weapon

like for example grabbing a herrera by the tail and just swinging it around like a weapon, or throwing stuff like troodon or juvenile omnis

and maybe having a bite that simply can be used as some sort of pull/stun on larger things

using a homalo as a sledgehamer would be peak

[urban flax]

Deviljho

[normal shuttle]

dunno if it would look too stupid to give magy a 360 degree attack where it spins around and hits with the tail and neck

animals can have wacky behaviors but still

just to have magy grabbing something small and doing a Garen E on a troodon pack

[latent olive]

OHMY GOD

alright im sold on playing rex good lord

[normal shuttle]

it is hilarious

[limber hull]

this is what orcas do to seals

[naive wasp]

how are we supposed to tell the difference between ambient frog noises for atmosphere purposes and an ai frog that can be eaten?

[urban flax]

Well it's easy
One you can run around with circles for half an hour and never find its source
The other leads to a frog AI

[naive wasp]

would be nice if the noise was different. best way ive found so far is to wait in place and turn my view direction and see if the noise moves to my other earpiece. honestly havent seen a frog since the update

[arctic bloom]

it is different but barely lol should be no ambient frog sounds imo just insect sounds and birds

[errant basalt]

Wow I can post here. I got a six hour ban for criticizing deinosucas on the other gen chat. Let's see if they even let me say this lol

[urban flax]

That's not a 6 hour ban that's the channel cooldown lol

People are really paranoid smh

[junior nymph]

lol

[errant basalt]

What's that? It's never happened to me before.

And why's it 6 friggin hours?

[urban flax]

Because people used to chat in the general feedback channel instead of here

[urban flax]

Then you never posted in general feedback, because the cooldown is for everyone

[errant basalt]

Yup guess so. Weird feature.

[south dome]

#general-feedback message Just hunt lol

[hoary ocean]

@clever needle Reponses to feedback are in here please

[clever needle]

oh thank you!! i didnt see this! so sory!

[normal shuttle]

bruh

Why can’t I ping the third gender guy

Left or banned lol

@pale yew Justify the addition of a +7k dollar playable into the game. Tell the devs why it should be added or what would make it unique or a must have in the already large roster

[wheat nova]

#general-feedback message @turbid rover have you tried deleting config or using the apply trick?

[ripe spire]

are migration zones bugged?

[elfin willow]

sometimes. multiple times after this entire update i've gone to a migration zone only for it to immediately disappear and move across the map. go to the other mz and same thing happens... 😩

[ripe spire]

I'm in the middle of one and there isn't a single plant

[elfin willow]

yeah they've been weird. 😔 hopefully it gets fixed soon. i always go to patrol zones over migration zones, and sometimes depending what you are, strolling through the jungle you'll end up finding some sort of plant in your preferred diet.

[hidden raptor]

Hey devs/community, can we talk about the lack of fish spawns for Deinosuchus lately?

It’s honestly becoming a big issue. There are barely any regular fish spawning, and I haven’t seen a single elite fish (boot) in hours of gameplay. How are we supposed to maintain diet or grow properly if there’s no food in the water?

Deino is supposed to be an aquatic predator, but right now it feels like a starving crocodile. No fish = no diet = no growth = frustration. It's especially rough when you're deep into growth and suddenly can’t find anything to eat.

Are the spawns bugged or intentionally reduced? Either way, there should be consistent fish spawns, especially elite ones, to support water-based dinos like Deino.

Anyone else noticing this or struggling with the same?

[limber hull]

@barren zephyr okay usually im against cannibal apexes but that is quite possibly the best way to handle it lol

population control + reward for reaching apex + makes them that much scarier

[valid zephyr]

In not convinced about forcing cannibalism on all elder apexes. But yeah I definitely suspect that elders will work as natural pop control for apexes.

Though the cannibal perk needs to be easier to unlock. Pretty sure it’s mathematically impossible for a lot of carnis to unlock due to its insane requirements

[toxic wren]

Cannibalism mutation should really just be like, 1-2 full stomachs of your own kind

Especially considering most troodons only live for like, 5-10 stomachs

[charred beacon]

@barren zephyr I was also quite concerned with overpopulation in this game, why would you play a small and boring dino when you can play the biggest and coolest guy. But after growing a full rex on the unofficial server i think they have already crushed this issue. They are doing the same to deino right now infact, Starvation. The huge 9.5 ton rex NEEDS to kill other huge herbivores to stay fed, AI or small dinos dont do shi for your diet and barealy fills your stomach, the only reason i didnt die is beacuse i ate a rex i managed to kill (everyone was rexes so thats the only choice i had) but you understand my point. And getting kills is no easy task what so ever, so thats solves that. Either you win and dont starve or you lose and die or you starve and die. ITs gonna work. And getting killed by your own species is the most boring shi to ever happen

[pale yew]

How is yutyranus a worse idea than an oviraptor Ong will fight dying on this hill

[limber hull]

Giving them cannibalism means that starvation will be less of a threat, which it shouldn’t be

My bad lol

[charred beacon]

That just makes them betray and kill each other all the time, just force them to kill herbivores like it should be

Killing a rex to not starve is one thing but seeking them out beacuse you get diet from it is not good

[latent olive]

th-thoughts on m-megalania venom corpse buff ? ? ?

https://imgur.com/gallery/7HH4XWT

[limber hull]

Yes, exactly. But I feel that elder is so difficult to attain and even HARDER to sustain, as its larger than 10 tons, that having SPECIFICALLY elder apexes be cannis is fine

If it were every Rex, not just elder, I’d 100% agree with you

[charred beacon]

Adding something beacuse its fine doesnt make sense

I feel like elder rex is gonna be extremely hard to keep feed either way, they might just kill rexes so they dont starve and they only do it if they have to. Both problems solved

[weary elk]

Then die lol

Or wait til mod support.

[charred beacon]

The game dies the day mod support comes

path of titans 2

[pale yew]

Bro what?

[weary elk]

You said you'd fight dying on that hill. You're gonna die on that hill on this one.

Yuty ain't happening.

[pale yew]

I k ow that but still people down voting my suggestion in the gen feedback is crazy when we got some lame ahh dino like oviraptor coming to the game and another ceratops

[limber hull]

I personally think ovi is infinitely more interesting than winter skin tyrannosaur lol

[pale yew]

Ovi raptor is just their omniraptor, who'll eat eggs man

Also yutas don't live in snow mainly forests you're thinking of the Nanuqsaurus

[limber hull]

That’s objectively untrue, and I mean, we’re getting Alberto, so I don’t see why we’d need yuty

[pale yew]

How is that untrue?

[limber hull]

Oviraptor doesn’t even the same diet as an omni lol

It’s not a hunter

[pale yew]

A response omni raptor who eats eggs

Reskined*

[limber hull]

It’s not an Omniraptor tho

By any metric

It likely won’t hunt, behave, eat or play like an omni

So basically it just isn’t an Omni in any way besides them both being raptors

[pale yew]

You're cooked if you don't think it's going to be an omni raptor who plays like troodon

[limber hull]

Given that it’s not like either of those, I genuinely doubt it will play like either

It isn’t even primarily a carnivore

[pale yew]

Plus the statement that we're getting Alberto but Yuta isn't interesting is absurd Alberto is dead ass a t rex

[limber hull]

And it still has more in common with a yuta than ovi has with Omni

[pale yew]

I just read that they're omnivores so I'll admit I didn't know that party so in all actuality you're right, it's just another gallimimus

[limber hull]

So by that logic

Yuty is just another cerato, carno, allo, Alberto, sucho, etc

Wow it’s really not worth adding huh

In fact yuty has more in common with those playstyles than ovi has with galli’s lol

[pale yew]

Cera is it's own thing due to its mechanic same with dilo, & carno allo is just a big raptor from what I see and slberto is trex, sucho is a weird spino so out of all of them you've named Alberto really is the only one I think that's not worth

Allo is only worth because everyone likes the Allo aswell as more diversity for large tier carnivores which rn there are none

The server sizes are too small to continuously add small to low midtier sized dinos into the game which basically throws a survival curve for dinos that will come like t rex and Allo

[errant basalt]

Yeah fish have been basically non-existent since the update (occasionally they spawn a crap ton in one spot though). Ai in general haven't been right since the update. I don't think the devs care though lol.

[limber hull]

I disagree. Dismissing animal additions because they’re “too small” just makes the game very much a homogeneous brawlfest and less of an actual ecosystem. I want unique niches like ovi over a new food item for a big carni

[pale yew]

the problem with having so many small dinos in such a small server is basically: an official server is only 100 players in every server you're going to have poeple playing herra, hypsi, beipi, ptera, ovi, troodon. if you have only 5 of each playing that's 30 percent of the player base almost completely unreachable for larger carnis, how can you talk about having a viable ecosystem where being a trex is going to be really hard to survive as, the only reason so many people are playing herbivore is because how many issues there are with ai rn and that trike just came out. im not saying im entirely against ovi raptor i just dont want to see it before the game has better diversity for more popular playstyles

adding something like the trike with horns facing down(i dont know its name) is crazy when theres already two versions of it in the game. maybe attacking ovi raptor isnt really about me wanting yuty more than it and more just i dont think its a good idea to add it into the game just yet.

but my point still stand i do want yuty more than anything, all time fav dino

[turbid rover]

Yes, I have with no success. I went as far as to disabling overclocking/undervolting in case of system stability (even though I have been using those settings with no issue ever since I’ve had my pc).

I also tried setting a range of fixed virtual memory sizes via a page file even though I have 64GB of RAM (overkill but is slowly becoming necessary for newer titles)

[latent olive]

"completely unreachable for larger carnis"

[junior nymph]

bro watched the zenny video

[latent olive]

if im playing homalocephaloe i dont care what your trex wants or about the damned PVP mosh pit over at south plains or whether im "making an impact on the server population"

i want to play homalocephaloe and thats that

[junior nymph]

yuty will just bloat the roster even more you could say how sub rex is just alberto you could say yuty is just feathered alberto

[pale yew]

idk whothat is gng

the problem is theyre adding the same dino too many times sure but atleast give me my goat if theyre going to throw 5 types of trike give me my yuty

[junior nymph]

the thing is right with ceratopsians they aint in the same size range

[pale yew]

theyre about as similar as yuty and rex tho....

[junior nymph]

we got a dibble 3T we got styrac ||should be removed|| we got pachyrhino thats decent sized too big for a mid tier too small for a apex we got trike 9.5T behemoth then we have ava which I hope is 1T and will prob be the most unique ceratopsian and then we have proto

[pale yew]

im in the movement of get rid of alberto and give me yuty

[junior nymph]

nahh

[pale yew]

why would you want a smaller trex that looks super similar than feathered goat of asia?

[junior nymph]

cause I like alberto just like how you like yuty

[pale yew]

did you like it before or just hyped that its coming to the game tho

i feel its the same with ovi raptors imo

[junior nymph]

yes

ive always loved alberto

[pale yew]

idk the weight sizes for the theropods but with albert trex allo suchi and yuta would be fairly different sizes if we go off irl weight

[junior nymph]

• iicr kissen said they aint adding anymore things to the roster and the roster is set in stone

[pale yew]

whats the full roster im ot sure where to find it

[pale yew]

i understand liking alberto,but its so similar to t rex through looks. i just dont wanna see a smaller trex

[junior nymph]

docter novas size chart shows most of the playables

[urban flax]

Yet you want yuty, which is literally a smaller t-rex

[pale yew]

at least it looks a whole lot different

[urban flax]

Only because of feathers
They made alberto look very different to rex in terms of proportions

[pale yew]

look after looking at what the roster has instore ive realized its alot of reskins so im giving up that argument almost entirely i know that in real life there are alot of dinos that are basically the same thing so its fair enough, i just wanted some real diversity early game aswell as seeing yuty in the game cause its my fav dino i do believe that there are to many theropod and cerotps lookalikes but if bro says nothing will be added asde that list then it is what it is

[urban flax]

People who like yuty are just allo fans who want to feel different

[pale yew]

also yuta has larger arms smaller face and feathers yea

thats dellusion on a whole new lvl gng

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
0/10 bait
The concept of being asexual allowing for nesting at all

[frail turret]

this dude being in a mental crisis denial for the 1000th time

[tired quest]

did they fixed the ai spawn yet? saw some post about elite fish

[frail turret]

Nope, not bait. Uninstall discord
It's common knowledge that finding the opposite sex as certain creatures can be very hard

[limber hull]

what

[urban flax]

I'll ignore the advice
If it's not bait, then you just have no idea what you're talking about and should spend 5 minutes educating yourself

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message “nerf troodon” is one of the takes ever posted in this channel in recent times

[wooden agate]

i dont think it was bait, i think he just didnt know the proper wording lol

[frail turret]

I just used one of the many terms. If you're unable to comprehend that the point of the post is "add a third gender, nesting hard" - you should do some homeschooling

[wooden agate]

because reproducing asexually is a term, but it is different from being asexual, ya know

[urban flax]

Can you tell the difference between gender and sex at all ?

[wooden agate]

bubublu i dont think he was trying to insinuate anything like that

i dont think adding a third gender/sex is the right way, but a mutation that allows for singular organism reproduction does sound interesting

unfortunately, i also tried to advocate for it and it was shot down by Don

[limber hull]

a far easier mechanic is literally just have the default be random sex

[wooden agate]

well i take that back, a few months before he said the idea wasnt crossed off the list and was considerable and THEN he said nah

[urban flax]

A parthenogenesis mutation is a different thing, which I'm not against

[wooden agate]

this is also true

[wooden agate]

let me put on my reading glasses hold on

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-see-think-thinking-pondering-gif-4994872

for some reason my i saw nesting and asexual and thought i read reproduction in there

no i see the issue now

[frail turret]

Doesn't matter

[bronze niche]

sad conversation

[urban flax]

See ? It was bait all along

[frail turret]

Lol do you say this with everyone that disagrees with you

What a childish thing to do, you know what I meant by that post

[urban flax]

No I only say this when people are obviously baiting

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message I hate these posts so much…

[bronze niche]

the current nesting and parent mechanic in the isle does not need to be revamped neither should 3rd genders be added

a proper way to find the opposite sex in the isle should just be making male and female broadcasts noticeably different

[frail turret]

oml what did i do
third gender should be added cause it will make nesting possible

[bronze niche]

nesting is possible its not common, but the devs eventually will do something to make it more common than it already is
in the meantime we do not need 3rd genders for dinosaurs 💀

[frail turret]

We do, uninstall

[urban flax]

Moreoever, if we go by how it works in nature, a third sex (stop using gender guys most animals don't have genders) would make nesting harder as all 3 sexes would be required for reproduction

[normal shuttle]

Imagine meiosis for 3 sexes

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-scary-horror-creepy-gif-gif-373179022993282051

[bronze niche]

goodluck trying to convince the devs to give you guys 3 genders for dinosaurs 💀

[wooden agate]

i also think the singular nesting mutation would achieve the same effect, possibly to even more of an extent

[normal shuttle]

I am afraid this is extremely poor bait

You should learn from an expert

[bronze niche]

asexual nesting i can understand, it should however come with less buffs than you would get for nesting with another partner

[bronze niche]

and be limited to certain dinosaurs

like megalania should get that

[wooden agate]

the problem isnt always just finding a different sex of animal, its also just... finding another of the same animal in the first place. and that problem will just become worse and worse with the more animals we get to begin with.

asexual reproduction could help with that, and possibly even be balanced to ensure that the increased nesting rates do not lead to stupidly OP animals, possibly only passing along 1-2 mutations (or all 3 at a reduced value)

[normal shuttle]

ROSTER ROTATIONS

(Please)

[wooden agate]

well isnt that kinda somewhat confirmed anyway in a way

[urban flax]

roster rotations ftw !

[bronze niche]

rely on petit pieds level server count to give you the ability to find your own species, otherwise the 100 pop officials wont help you

[wooden agate]

not true roster rotations but each official will likely have a different roster based off past comments

[urban flax]

If it is I'll claim I'm the one who gave the devs the idea and brag about it constantly

[wooden agate]

i plan on doing this with literally any of my feedback if it gets added (i dont, please add the sanctuary dome devs)

[urban flax]

Oh you mean like evrima being a gamemode consisting of small animals ?

[frail turret]

Lol you're clearly just a transphobe or just against anything that has to do with gender neutrality
It would make the game more exclusive. We should get a third gender

[bronze niche]

https://tenor.com/view/shoked-monkey-monkey-funny-monkey-shock-hehehe-monkey-gif-14155641065388817110

[urban flax]

"more exclusive" lol

absolutely clueless

[frail turret]

Don't respond to me anymore you're useless and irrelevant

[wooden agate]

not evrima per-se, moreso the officials just offering different 'official' experiences

like official NA 1 could be more for the midtiers, having a reduced number of smalls. and then NA2 is more focused around the smalls, having less available apexes and mid tiers

[urban flax]

funny you say that

[frail turret]

You serve 0 purpose and are just slowing down my discussion

[willow kiln]

Doesn’t logically make sense though

[frail turret]

Providing nothing constructive, just trolling

[wooden agate]

so like the 'official small tier' experience in the isle would be on NA2 and other servers dedicated to those rosters if that makes sense

[normal shuttle]

Wait really?

[urban flax]

If I am slowing down your discussion then I have a purpose, dummy

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/allmight-bnha-mha-meme-fist-up-gif-13588517052470008833

[wooden agate]

read above to see what i meant, its not 'true' roster rotation

[frail turret]

<@&933486433342222376> Mute him for insulting me

[normal shuttle]

Bubul won

[willow kiln]

😭

[frail turret]

Why

[bronze niche]

this dude is 1000% ragebaiting

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[bronze niche]

"filthy transphobe" "mute him for insulting me"

[willow kiln]

Please explain to me how two males can lay eggs

[bronze niche]

FR LMAO

liberal logic

[frail turret]

yk there are some small things in the animal kingdom that can do stuff like this right

[urban flax]

Ooooooh but you're babylon again
What is it, your 5th alt account now ?

[frail turret]

yeah i knew it, you're lgbtphobic or smth

[willow kiln]

Is a dinosaur a small thing?

[frail turret]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

Babylon is a city, or was

[frail turret]

can you calm down

[urban flax]

I almost didn't recognize you at first

[bronze niche]

thats crazy, lgbtphobic for acknowledging the fact that 2 males wouldnt be able to lay eggs

[willow kiln]

Can you hold a conversation without getting defensive 😭

[topaz crane]

You all need to stop this conversation

[willow kiln]

Nobody is mad I’m asking you questions

[frail turret]

Lol now we have people acting like mods

[willow kiln]

Fr who is u

[frail turret]

@topaz crane is it allowed to call people dummy on here? <@&933486433342222376>

[normal shuttle]

[bronze niche]

i wouldnt recommend wasting your time chatting with a dude called filthyfrank that joined the server yesterday

[topaz crane]

You can't say this then try play victim

[willow kiln]

Why though, we’re having a conversation. I don’t think that’s against the rules

[normal shuttle]

Confirmed troll then

[frail turret]

You didn't respond to the question. Are people allowed to call others "dummy" yes or no

[bronze niche]

its an argument thats escalating into something else and makes the server look bad which is why admins dont like arguments

[frail turret]

Biased ass moderators that let their favorites slip away with insults

And won't even confirm if it's against the rules

[limber hull]

@urban flax YES OR NO

[frail turret]

🙂

[urban flax]

I know it's him

[limber hull]

Hahahahaha

[willow kiln]

I mean the only escalation was the other guy so ig that’s fair

[topaz crane]

Becasue its gotten beyond a conversarion at this point

[normal shuttle]

[frail turret]

@topaz crane Can people call others dummies on this server? Why are you refusing to answer this ?

<@&579345586965446657>

[willow kiln]

Yeah my fault I wasn’t really paying attention haha

[normal shuttle]

eliminate him already

[frail turret]

The only reason you won't answer that question is because you're favoritizing someone

[normal shuttle]

He’s gonna ping Dondi eventually

[willow kiln]

We should just ping the devs at this point

[topaz crane]

the answer is no, but as i also said you can't insult someone then try play the victim. Now all of you need to drop the topic and get this chat into what its meant to be, General Feedback Discussion

[frail turret]

I never insulted anyone, he called me something deragotory.

[willow kiln]

Filthyfrank you know that’s not true, the insults were mutual

And the other guy left it

So perhaps it’s time to move on 🙏🏼

[limber hull]

i wish i had as much dedication to something as this guy has to making alts to pick fights with bulbulu

[normal shuttle]

Let’s see what spicy suggestion I can make…

So true

[urban flax]

I trust you can cook something worse than water-running juvie deino

[normal shuttle]

I will

I sometimes chuckle when I remember that

Had like 70 downvotes

[urban flax]

I wonder what's my most downvoted suggestion
Hold on

#general-feedback message
Looks like it's the garbo suggestion, I'm kinda disappointed

I can't believe this one actually got a positive updovte ratio
#general-feedback message

[limber hull]

it was funny

[analog sentinel]

getting cooked right now for suggesting a qol mechanic </3

changing sex is a real thing that wild animals do. and i suggested it only for smaller tiers which are practically inconsequential

islecord hates to see a peak suggestion i guess

[normal shuttle]

Tarbosaurus was good

[urban flax]

When making the suggestion, my initial idea was to suggest some roster bloat over-asked for dino, and then I thought it would be infinitely funnier if I actually put thought into the suggestion and offered it a believable niche and abilities

[limber hull]

"only for smaller tiers which are practically inconsequential"

see that's where the problem starts

[analog sentinel]

what problem? small tier populations are already struggling as it is! it'd help boost them

and most of the fun that comes from playing small tier animals is nesting with them

[normal shuttle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9Wd7x7eQ3n4?si=quwyKuV7rAN8Km0q we need this for magy

[urban flax]

Definitely

[pale yew]

High-key I am not a fan of this idea, something I like is the fact that as a bigger or smaller dino I can see the other raining around, I think they should just make server sizes bigger

[wooden agate]

there would likely be officials with everything enabled as well

[pale yew]

If they did that I'd be more or less down with it,

[urban flax]

I think weelky or bi-weelky rotations is the best of both tbh

It means that

1. Only several species are enabled at a time, so you have more chances to meet your own species
2. You can still meet disabled species, through people reconnecting on a day where their species isn't enabled and/or nesting more of their own

Which would also make nesting as a currently disabled species an extremely popular choice, since "wow ! I can play as a disabled species !"

[analog sentinel]

if they upped the max playercount it’d make it so much better. because a 100/100 player count that are entirely playing the little guys on a map like gateway you might start feeling like an ant in a wasteland

imagine what an all hypsi, dryo, beipi and troodon server would be like

[urban flax]

It would be great

[pale yew]

Yea I'd throw up seeing a full server of hypsi

The problem with biweekly restest is it takes forever just to grow something like a stego and people have jobs so it would be a little disheartening to come home to see your 78% stego gone because a reset

Oh I'm blind

Is that really how they'd do it tho? I feel like it would defeat the purpose of disabling dinos

[urban flax]

That's how I would like them to do it
But it wouldn't defeat the purpose of disabling dinos at all
What do you think the purpose would be ?

Getting completely rid of them ? Nah, that's not what the rotations would be for
It's to shift the "meta" ever so often
Encourage people to not always pick the same thing, and make same species interactions more frequent

[pale yew]

I think if they had servers that were opposite of eachother so that at all times the dino you wanted to play was available I'd be 100% ok with that

The reason I think they should have A server that has the opposite as the first is due to the fact that the game doesn't have a huge player base and most people play this game to play as some of their five dinosaurs. So while a decent chunk of people will stick to and play different dinosaurs, it also gives the people who just want to have fun and play a cool Dino the chance to do so

Imagine buying the game because you see that T-Rex is in the game now but you're not able to play it because it's disabled on the official servers that would suck

[urban flax]

That's included in the suggestion I made about it a while ago

[normal shuttle]

You could go to a server where there are

Also simply getting gud or nesting could work as well

[urban flax]

Well, it would be only disabled for like 2 weeks
If it's disabled at all, some species could stay always available

[pale yew]

I still feel like it should be closer to 1 month to give casual players the chance to try and die a dino

2 weeks seems really fast to me

[urban flax]

That would achieve the opposite
Need to wait 1 month to have your favorite dino on rotation ?

You don't get it
You don't have to grow the dino before it becomes unavailable
All you have to do is keep it alive once it's no longer on rotation

[limber hull]

i think a rotation would be really cool, because it would also create a far greater insentive to nest, allowing you to spawn in "disabled" animals

[pale yew]

This is keeping in consideration that there's an opposite server

[urban flax]

But why is a 1 month long rotation needed ?

[pale yew]

It's just for r tards like myself who can't keep a dino alive long enough to nest often

I like the idea of there being a real risk of death and more incentive to nest, and I think it's a great attribution but again the idea of like l skilled people/ casual players not having the time and skill to keep a dino like Trex alive for a long time could risk loss of players and be disheartening

I guess you could just swap servers tho.

[normal shuttle]

What do you guys think about magy tool use?

I was thinking about what to post and I was thinking that since Magy is so small compared to rex, there’s so few things that it can grab and throw to justify it as a mechanic

So I was thinking about it somehow being able to pick up stones or sticks in certain locations in order to throw them or use them as weapons to have something that gets slightly close to Gen 1 and Gen 2 but within the dinosaur roster

[urban flax]

Good idea

I do think there should be rocks and sticks lying around that everything should be able to grab
Just to move them around, not necessarily useful

I can see magy grabbing small tree trunks and using them as a kind of giant mace to smack things around

[normal shuttle]

[wooden agate]

@still orbit because its an unreleased, unbalanced, untested rex

of course its going to be insane

[limber hull]

Rex is honestly going better than I expected, although it is proving all my fears to do with stego lol

If it weren't for stego being absolute rex fodder, I'd say rex is a fine addition to the ecosystem

But the mindset of "just don't be close enough to a rex lol" is very silly

[urban flax]

Just herd up

[normal shuttle]

just play trike

and two tap rexes

Magyarosaurus (human sauropod niche)

[junior nymph]

<@&933486433342222376>

#general-feedback message

[sacred hatch]

i noticed you very quickly gave a negative react to my suggestion concerning mix packs and was wondering if you could let me know what you disagree with or what you think isn't balanced?
Mr.Rex i would love to hear from you as well if your still here as the more that weighs in the better of an outcome i sure we can discover

[limber hull]

extremely abusable is the long and short of it tbh

you can use these debuffs to weaken an opponent to troll or allow a friend to kill them

also forcing control away from players is rarely a good idea

[urban flax]

this kind of suggestion is 90% collateral damage and 10% actual mixpack prevention

Just makes the experience worse for everyone to reduce mixpack a little bit without outright preventing it

It also does nothing against carni-carni mixpacks, which are just as bad as carni-herbi mixpacks
And tbh some herbi-herbi mixpacks are pretty bad too

It encourages deathmatch mentality as it forces players to NEVER tolerate a player of different diet in their field of view, either kill it or run away

It also makes no sense to have all herbivores be scared of carnivores and all carnivores feel "bloodlust" when seeing a herbivore
A trike has no reason to be scared of a troodon, and a troodon shouldn't consider trike as anything close to a prey item

But carnivores somehow wouldn't be scared of each other
Because a troodon would have all reasons to be scared if an omni is nearby

But then if you want to go the realism route, then fear should be a buff instead of a debuff
Because that's what fear actually is

And then you're buffing mixpacks instead of preventing them

[sacred hatch]

i agree with alot of what you both have just said, i was going to try and defend some of my idea, but without taking away some of the players freedoms or customizing every dinos interactions (ALOT of work for the devs) then yea it would be very difficult to get that right without hurting the game.
Thank you both for taking the time to explain your side of this and doing so in a constructive manner 🙂

[limber hull]

thank u bulbulu for summarising literally everything

[normal shuttle]

Anti mixpack mechanics are so problematic

[urban flax]

Hope whatever the devs are cooking will be good

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-13328108869509964634

3-3 now 💔

[analog sentinel]

cannot blame you in the slightest honestly

too many squirrels

[limber hull]

squirrels are awesome

[urban flax]

One time I was having a bad day
Then I saw a squirrel
In the end it was a good day

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

bait incarnate

[woven bane]

i got u

[normal shuttle]

We must battle on

The feedback discussion dwellers vs the casuals

[normal shuttle]

2/10 ragebait

[junior nymph]

@copper cradle you had the exact same thing LOL

[copper cradle]

haha yea i just noticed what you sent as well xD

[urban flax]

@molten stag You know that carnivores actually grow slower than herbivores right ?

[molten stag]

you pinged too fast, please read the very well put together artilce i linked

[urban flax]

I don't care about some study
I care about facts
It takes as much time for a cow to reach full size as for a dog

[molten stag]

well the study provides facts so if you dont care to look, whey should i care to answer your wrong opinion?

[urban flax]

There is no fact truer than what can be observed in real life
You could show me the best article out there explaining why the Earth is flat that it wouldn't make it less round

Wait why is the article using pandas as a herbivore reference

[molten stag]

it's data, and evidence compiled together neatly so you can read, not feelings, have a good day tho until you read up on the material it even has refrence for your cattle dry matter% wet mass in there if you'd like that (last pic with refrence)

[lunar mirage]

the devs need to tell us when they change things.... deino has 575 bite force now instead of 500. how many other things are getting channged without notice ???? unless im unnaware of where they post it.

[junior nymph]

wait

[urban flax]

Bro
The article uses pandas as one of its reference herbivores
Also it's about stomach size... not growth rate...

[junior nymph]

what server?

[lunar mirage]

na-8 official

[junior nymph]

do you have any mutations?

[lunar mirage]

efficient water, efficient food, swim speed

[junior nymph]

did you get nested?

[lunar mirage]

..... i have 1200 hours.. it was buffed secretely. there are no conditions atm where i should have more than 500

[junior nymph]

no hypermetabolic?

[lunar mirage]

no

those 3 muts are it

[junior nymph]

interesting

[lunar mirage]

unless im elder and gonna grow or something idk

[junior nymph]

somethings off

cause like its 500 on the thingy

[lunar mirage]

on what >?

[junior nymph]

a test server

[lunar mirage]

hmm

even if i had hyper it changes based on food

[junior nymph]

yeah

[desert arch]

If you had hyper you'd have exactly 575 bite force on really low hunger

[junior nymph]

yeah this is with hyper with 0% food

[lunar mirage]

yes

[junior nymph]

yeah

[copper cradle]

@pliant elm i wouldn't be to worried about what you're seeing about rex or any other dino thats not been fully released yet since they're old builds of them, that could of already been changed a long with other things thats related to balance ect

[pliant elm]

Yes, I know, it was just an example.

The feedback is about the Pin in conjunction with a high speed and a higher weight

[tall vine]

@pliant elm even if that's the final product, Herrera has climbing so if they are caught by a Rex with pin or no pin they get oneshotted anyways, Omni + Pachy + tenonto can jump to any place and Be safe instantly, also teno can just tail slam or kick a Rex coming in a straight line so that's fine, pachy should Be able to stun to the same effect as teno, the only ones in trouble are the dilo and carno, but they need buffs/reworks either way cuz they are real weak even now without the rex

Forgot cera, but cera has the busted stability modifier on charge bite + corpse buff which should be the only times a cera should show itself to danger

[copper cradle]

Which again could of been already addressed since the rex we can play is an older build

[pliant elm]

Yes, I said that in my post xd

[copper cradle]

Oh didn't see that, my bad 😅

[pliant elm]

Omni, Teno and Pachy do not have rocks every 2m to protect themselves

This is a problem with Pin, a mechanic that can One Shot anything smaller

The only one listed that can actually get away with this is the Herrera and the Cerato, the rest will all just die with a single click of something that is faster

[barren zephyr]

@pliant elm , there's absolutely no way they are making rex 59km/h. at most, sub rex will go like 40

so I wouldn't worry too much about it

Also, rex needs to be way more than 700kg at 50% growth

[pliant elm]

This is obvious, it's just an example...

[barren zephyr]

I know that, but I sincerely doubt they will make rex anything more than 40-42km/h at his all time peak

[pliant elm]

Sub rex will still weigh more and run more than a Pachy probably, so my words are still the same.

Get close, press a button and there's nothing the pachy can do about it.

[barren zephyr]

If it goes 42km/h, as long as it's not agile. Because Maia is faster and can stun packy, but there's no way for it to realistically chase it down without a tough chase. And imo sub rex should have a fighting chance against an adult pachy. But if the rex is that fast, it will likely be light enough to be hit by the pachy

[lunar mirage]

NA-8 WEST if you lunge you disconnect

[molten stag]

@obsidian plaza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mb2MeAx35U&t=6s

[wooden agate]

i mean, not really

i wouldnt mind it having a growth curve similarly to deino

it works well for keeping it huntable to the roster for a long duration of its growth while also playing nicely with the realism folks

[barren zephyr]

so make it grow 8 tons in like 40% growth?

[wooden agate]

as rex did grow incredibly slowly until its big growth spurt

[barren zephyr]

Yes, but that makes baby rexes kind of lame. I really prefer not to do stuff like that

[wooden agate]

thats the point though

its 3 different animals in one

deino grows 4 tons in 20% growth

[barren zephyr]

fr? i haven't played dieno in a bit, but 4 tons at 20% growth is kind of insane to me lol

[tall vine]

Rex slow growing until sub is the prime example of how all big dinos should be

[indigo gulch]

yeah it's a bit skewed for deino

[bronze niche]

the growth is not final and is like 6 months behind, its probably going to be like 1600 kgs or more at 50%

[indigo gulch]

that sounds awful

only 1600?

[bronze niche]

rex had this exact same growing curve IRL

when it reached adult hood thats when it started putting on a lot of weight

[indigo gulch]

that's fun for the real rexes, but not for the players.

[bronze niche]

now deino ngl they need to buff its weight gain, its too slow and you need to be like 80% to drown a fg teno

[indigo gulch]

I mean that or make it so younger prey feeds more

for younger deinos

[barren zephyr]

you can drown half your weight, and if dieno gets 4 tons at 20% growth, then it can sink a tenonto at porb 15%

[barren zephyr]

Oh you mean the last 20%?

[bronze niche]

it doesnt need to get 4 tons at 20%, it just needs to be at a faster pace than what it currently is

now trike needs a weight gain nerf, it puts on weight too quickly for its %

[barren zephyr]

I absolutely agree, it should be more constistent throughout the grow

[barren zephyr]

fr. 6 tons at 50% and its only 9 tons?

[bronze niche]

apexes like rex should have its own special group system, like at sub rex and below the group max is like 3 but when you get to adult its 2

i think sub rexes balanced speed will be slower than a maia, that would suck ngl getting chased down by a maia and just dying cuz ur slower lmao

pretty balanced tho because u could easily lose a maia in the woods so if it catches you in the middle of a plains you should just die ig unless its dumb

[molten stag]

This is intresting, i like dynamic systems, put in the suggestion

[bronze niche]

i already did, its a pretty old suggestion tho i made

[molten stag]

Hope they take a look at it, that's a good one, might take time, but they have that on their side

[bronze niche]

some dinosaurs should have different grouping systems
lets take rex for example

juvi to teen rexes should be able to group up to 3. they arent strong enough to solo anything major, but three of them could realistically coordinate and gang up on something like a young trike. still, they would still get slaughtered by competitors like cera, carno and omni groups to cull them out.

adult rexes should go down to 2 per group for balancing, solitary nature in general. they should however get 3 extra slots that can only be used on offspring. (assuming rex can at the max lay 3 eggs)

the kids should be able to stay in the group until late juvi. at that point, they are big enough to survive on their own and the parents shouldn’t be able to keep them grouped.

this is just for rex, if this is taken into consideration it would be cool to see how different the other grouping systems are for different species

[molten stag]

I like it, it's fluid, so the transition isnt as jarring as being kicked out at hatchling, and is good for social interaction and community growth and comms i like it

[bronze niche]

yes, i make a LOT of long paragraph suggestions

i made one on croc nesting, and 3 on how humans should be

also made one on rex cannibalism

[molten stag]

Nice i'm getting back into it, good work on that one, and i'll read them as i see them come up

[bronze niche]

when you find the human ones they are all linked into a reply chain

i think to a degree trex should be cannibalistic but not a full one like ceratosaurus or deinosuchus

let me explain

rex should be able to eat other rexes, but only as a last resort. it shouldn’t give any nutrients from the meat or organs, but it also shouldn't give debuffs. rex back then did eat its own kind sometimes, but only when food was super scarce, they usually went for dinosaurs like triceratops or edmonto instead. in this version of cannibalism, it doesn’t become a main diet option or a meta strategy just an emergency option for survival when food is scarce.

[bronze niche]

i was thinking that rex's last resort to cannibalism should be different compared to dinosaurs that are cannibalistic and arent

[molten stag]

and i think little exceptions like that will make playables feel distinct and add to the replayability of the game play loop honestly

[bronze niche]

yes i agree

[junior nymph]

@fierce pivot hitboxes are fine. Its ping and desync

[urban flax]

"How can you fight a diablo with omni"
You're not supposed to

[lunar mirage]

you can if ping was not an issue. i have no problem baiting attacks and pouncing. only problem is the glitch pounce and desync

[urban flax]

If there is a large skill gap yeah
But omni is really not supposed to go toe-to-toe with a diablo alone

[lunar mirage]

yes, i think what he means to say is getting one shot is not a fun thing. if its gonna stun me for 3 hits the first might as well be a one shot

[urban flax]

Yeah but omni isn't the only thing in the equation
There's larger thing that might get stunned the same but survive the subsequent hits to live after that

[lunar mirage]

reduce stun time and put me on red. dont instakill me the first time i get hit. it takes a long time and many attacks to kill diablo as omni. and only one attack to kill the omnni. it should not be this way.

[urban flax]

Why not ? They belong in completely different weight classes

It has no reason to be even close to a balanced fight

[lunar mirage]

if the game had 0 desync it would be chill.. but you have to make room for the games errors.. if it was 0 ping then its your own fault for getting hit. but getting hit while 10 feet away and being stunned long enough for them to hit you 2 more times is not ok. its not about balance. its about the game being so buggy it takes your dino regardless of skill

[urban flax]

What about fixing the bugs instead of balancing around the bugs ?

[lunar mirage]

lets be real. they could care less water ai has been busted for 2 straight weeks. what do we get ? buffs for herbis and nerf for troods and raps

[urban flax]

They don't care about water AI (which actually spawns, idk what people are on about) because they're trying to get rex done as quickly as possible so all of their efforts are turned to that

[lunar mirage]

you dont play deino and its quite obvious

[urban flax]

Though you've got a point, if desync needs to be accounted for, then omni and troodon's pounce should get a very heavy nerf due to the amount of times people get pinned and die because of desync

[lunar mirage]

you are literally here to disagree. its okay good talk

[urban flax]

Why the hell would I play it ? It's the most boring thing ever
I prefer playing dinos in my dinosaur game

[lunar mirage]

^ see. so you have 0 room to talk about ai spawns

[urban flax]

It's not to disagree, quite the contrary ? But if you want to balance things around desync better do it all the way

[urban flax]

Deino isn't the only thing that eats AI

[lunar mirage]

we good. its done

[urban flax]

In fact deino is supposed to be one of the least AI-reliant carnivores in the game

[lunar mirage]

your ignorant have a nice day

[urban flax]

Is that how you talk to everyone who disagrees with you ?

[lunar mirage]

no but im trying to tell you its all good the talk is over and you keep talking more. you are willingly ignorant to what i am telling you

[urban flax]

You're not saying much apart from denigrating my opinion

[lunar mirage]

👍

[lunar mirage]

i did not critisise your opinions.... i said im done. and you continue

[urban flax]

Calling me ignorant because I disagree with you is not criticizing ?

[lunar mirage]

ther reason i called you ignorant was because i told you im done with the talk. like i want to be finished im over it, it doesn't matter. and you continue so yes that makes you ignorant

again nothing to do with what you think about the isle

[tired quest]

https://tenor.com/view/block-blocked-you-are-blocked-user-discord-gif-2473019735961525447
solution

[lunar mirage]

^

[urban flax]

That's not what being ignorant means

[lunar mirage]

"Ignorant" for kids means lacking knowledge or understanding about something

"understanding" is the part you struggle with

[urban flax]

Oh I understand
But since you keep answering I figured you actually wanted to talk a bit more

[green coral]

@south dome ok sure

now i got a question for you

who tf is going to benefit from ptera organs

[south dome]

Pteras

[green coral]

so you want the devs to add organs to ptera, to benefit other pteras that have a cannibal mutation

[south dome]

Or they should give an organ amount of diet for their normal meat either or

Why do hypsis have organs?

[green coral]

because they're on ptera's diet

[south dome]

Ptera is on troos and herras diet, I'm sure a juvie herra or troo would benefit from those organs.

also, a fg hypsi gives dip for organs to a fg ptera

[acoustic spruce]

@pliant elm those are old stays

Since those Rex files that were used were outdated ones

[gilded isle]

i really hope u realize that the rex in game we currently have is extremely outdated and should not be taken into considiration at all.

why are people even commenting on something thats unreleased and super outdated???? the current playable rex is literally from 6 months ago?????

[bronze niche]

@urban flax seeing as you make actually good points more than half the time i wanna know why you dont like my idea, im open to hearing why

[urban flax]

Um, can you please send me a link to the suggestion so I can read it again ?

[bronze niche]

kind of long but sure

[urban flax]

Oh yeah
It's about the experience thing

[bronze niche]

also i forgot to mention that you wont be able to rely on these bases alone to make bullets, you will need other resources
otherwise if it was like that then bullets would just be everywhere.
i could see omnis and dilos tho just camping those areas for food

[urban flax]

I think the gear progression system would be enough, also if there are to be perks for humans, I prefer them to be, well, perks, rather than things you just earn without control

[bronze niche]

the idea was for the worse they survive while alive the smaller buffs they get, so that if they somehow survive crawl state and at a safe zone it wouldnt be benefical to just kill themselves to get back to full health and reloot their body

[urban flax]

The mutations system for dinos could very easily be adapted into a perk system for humans
They could also have secret perks to mimic what you suggested
I just don't think tying it entirely to "do X thing in order to get Y buff" is a good idea
Too restrictive, and encourages playing in weird ways (such as intetionnally running into something that will leave at 10% hp so you can get the corresponding bonus)

[bronze niche]

im inclined to agree, this sounds better

my thought process was that i just wanted humans to be drastically different than dinosaurs when it came to systems like muts but that also works

[urban flax]

I get it
But knowing how this playerbase behaves, I doubt it would work as intended
I also don't like the fact of there being an absolute necessity of going through hell in order to benefit from it
Because lets be honest, humans will probably very rarely survive an encounter where they get injured
And needing to do that with every life is... eh
Like sure, it's a nice reward in the extreme rare occasion that it happens, but a simple perk system would be much more convenient

[bronze niche]

maybe make it so if they end up killing themselves instead of just surviving crawl state they arent allowed to respawn in that area they died in for a while

but then again i could see how that could go wrong aswell

i feel like though it would be annoying and beat the whole purpose of recovering if you could just recover your loot again and be at 100% hp

[urban flax]

Oh you mean in order to prevent humans from suiciding instead of healing back up ?

[bronze niche]

yes

because then it beats my other cool ideas which i think would be really cool in the isle, like being able to pick up your teammates

[urban flax]

You could just do it like many PvP games do, loot loses durability and degrades if you die while carrying it

You could even allow dinos to attack abandoned loot to destroy it

[bronze niche]

i guess the developers have something else in thier own mind, but i could also see a loophole around the losing durability part. like what if they just drop all of their stuff and have their teammates pick it up temporarily

[urban flax]

Tbh any system can be abused if you're dedicated enough

[bronze niche]

the developers probably have it figured out, apparently they have some mechanic solved for mixpacking thats nothing like what the players have suggested. so if they managed to figure out mixpacking then i imagine the dropping loot and respawning has a fix around it aswell

maybe. i dont know i probably shouldnt worry about it

[urban flax]

Idk if you ever played escape from Tarkov
Dondi mentioned many time he's taking it as inspiration for human gameplay

Personnally I've never played (or even seen gameplay of) that game, so I don't know exactly how it's made, but I assume they must have some sort of system to prevent players from getting back their loot after they die

But maybe the game is just not open-world survival

[bronze niche]

i have, that game is next level realism. that + what ive suggested would make humans its own game

[bronze niche]

its not open world, you do runs. that game pisses me off though so i cant be bothered to play it

[urban flax]

Wait I actually think the loot may not be a problem at all, in fact

Spawns are random
Die in your base, spawn on other side of the map, good luck getting back there with your 20km/h sprint speed

[bronze niche]

seeing as humans are cloned they probably chose top gene athletic humans to clone. they should def be faster than 20km/h not carrying any loot

[bronze niche]

there will be vehicles, the only problem is that all of the vehicles have like slots where you can get grabbed out of them LMAO

[urban flax]

Oh yeah probably
20km/h is a baseline

[urban flax]

Lucky you if you spawn right next to a functioning vehicle

[bronze niche]

rarest one will probably be the semi truck. that i imagine youll probably be able to carry stuff like FG t rexes in and transport them

[urban flax]

(Also goddamn I was afk for a minute because a massive grasshopper jumped into my room, it had a healthbar, I had to use a sword to chase it away
And I live in the middle of a goddamn city what was it doing there)

[urban flax]

Or maybe the helicopter

[bronze niche]

thats interesting, grasshopper in the city

[bronze niche]

thats a planned thing? youll probably get slaughtered by a quetzal or pterandons in the air

[urban flax]

Yeah there's a small helicopter planned
I doubt pteranodons would be of any risk, quetz are another thing
But I think they would be more at risk of shredding themselves on the blades than anything else
Though if they do both the quetz and the pilot would die

[fervent isle]

Do you guys feel the same about the mutagens ingame?

[urban flax]

No, the point of mutations is to customize the way you play
If you can have all of them just by playing long enough then that's just powercreep

Also it would overlap a lot with the elder system

@vital laurel There already is one

[vital laurel]

🤔 can you tell me the command/the line for it

ive not seen that before

[urban flax]

I don't know if it can be edited

But there is a cap by default
Otherwise the server would just keep spawning AI and crash

[vital laurel]

ohhh

[urban flax]

And it's also the reason why people often can't find AI
Sometimes AI just all spawn in one place, reach the cap that way and the rest of the map remains empty

[vital laurel]

i meant one that a host can edit, say you just want low amounts of some AI running around for example

[urban flax]

Ah, it's not clear from your suggestion

But even that might already be a thing, though I have no knowledge on server hosting

[vital laurel]

my server is lagging at 600 AI, im currently dissableing AI spawns and then renalbeing it every so often to keep ai stable yet have good SFPS

[gilded isle]

literally elder system

[gilded isle]

is there tho (not my screenshot)

[urban flax]

It's there, right before your eyes

[vital laurel]

disable crab, gives no found cant be found unless you walk over it, same with rabbit

[pliant elm]

My god, why doesn't anyone read until the end???

[latent olive]

why doesn’t anyone what

[tall vine]

@cinder haven IMO a Stego dying to a single good headshot of a rex makes sense, idk if that's the case, since i didn't test the Rex right now, the Stego needs to protect It's weakspot, as a Stego can oneshot -3 tons animals with a single hit makes sense for the same to happen to it from smth 3+ tons bigger than it

[cinder haven]

Still, it shouldn’t die in just one hit.

As far as I know, the Rex has a special bite that deals 2800 damage. This attack helps the Stego fight back — the T. rex doesn’t even need to grab the Stego, and logically, it shouldn’t be able to grab it anyway.

[tall vine]

I could also give the example that if a trike can oneshot Stego, so should Rex, but I'm Not a big fan of that, and u apparently are not aswell, but just cuz It's My opinion I'm pretty sure It's better for it to be the way it is currently, to discourage Stego from thinking it can compete with apexes and if It's really intended It's a clear message for us that devs intend for it to be only a midtier

[cinder haven]

I don’t really like how easily the Trike can kill the Stego, but it has two huge horns, so I guess it makes sense.

The developers already explained that a Stego can take on a T. rex in a 1v1, but it’s not something we should prefer... though they also said it’s possible to win. So, most likely, the current T. rex can’t grab a Stego anymore.

[tall vine]

Exactly

[tall vine]

Seems what i would say to any aspiring Omni player, u can technically kill anything up to Apex level, but it is very skillfull based

[cinder haven]

Haha, that’s a very low chance — because a Utah needs a group of friends (they have to play in coordination, and that’s not very likely).

[tall vine]

If it encourages Stego to play good defensive tactics with terrain/herd I'm happy with that

Herd i mean 2+ stegos

[cinder haven]

This doesn't work with trex, trex is bulky... but Acro and giga work (they seem to be more like group animals) or allo (probably when 4 trex move around together, Stego moves around in a group)

Actually when you think about it this would be great 4 trex vs 6 stego and trex are fast so stego has to defend

[urban flax]

Herd animals aren't viable in this game
Also stego is the worst candidate to be one

[tall vine]

Explain

[cinder haven]

Heh, actually you’re right… Stegos hit each other way too much.

[tall vine]

That just means they are not experienced enough Stego pvp players

[urban flax]

You spawn alone if the game
If you need the help of a FG to help you get to FG, where would that other FG actually come from ?

[cinder haven]

Hmm, it doesn’t apply to me, but it does for a lot of players.

[tall vine]

Like the kids say nowadays, Git gud or skillissue

[urban flax]

And why would people bother playing something that is fodder and requires the luck to find someone else to form a herd with to have a chance at survival when they can just play something that can survive fine alone, and be strong in groups ?

[tall vine]

I'm talking about those cases Stego hit each other, reminds me of Omni poucing pack m8s It's Only fair for them to die if they make such a huge mistake

[urban flax]

Stego's attacks are designed to hit everything around it, it can't be effective in a herd because they're bound to be hitting each other unless they split up

[cinder haven]

You’re right, actually — finding someone while playing as a Utah or a Dilo is really difficult.

[tall vine]

U can grow together as hatchlings, easier even now cuz of Spawn codes, It's totally do able and encouraged for nesting and survival purposes

[cinder haven]

Actually, with the right tactics, they can fight as a pack — but that takes experience.

[urban flax]

These two do not rely on groups to survive

[urban flax]

Okay but you'll die
What is going to protect you when you're two hatchlings ?

[cinder haven]

But hunting alone is very difficult

[tall vine]

Then they are spacing between themselves wrong

[urban flax]

Just compare it to dibbles and trikes, who are actually great at group fighting
Stego is a terrible candidate for being a herd animal because its kit becomes a detriment as soon as you have one ally because you need to work around it to not kill your friend by mistake

[tall vine]

Their prey becomes much more scarse or extremely dangerous to hunt alone tho so i would say they are heavily encouraged pack hunters dinos, as clearly seen, by their "special" Abilities being all around the more the better

[urban flax]

They're encouraged to but they can survive alone completely fine

[tall vine]

Sancs

[urban flax]

Neither dilo or omni has any 1v1 situation where it has no chance to survive

[urban flax]

You can't grow to adulthood inside a sanctuary

[tall vine]

Knowing the map, hiding well and not making noise

[urban flax]

You know what is a herd animal right now ? Pachy
Do you see many pachy herds ? No, because pachys can't herd up because they die before they have the opportunity to

[urban flax]

Why go through all of that instead of playing as something that is not forced to afk in a corner of the map for its entire growth ?

And then die anyway as soon as you meet a predator that is not alone ?

[tall vine]

Depends if ai is there/small playables which is extremely volatile and not reliable at all, especially with bigger carnis in the area, u are forced to get lucky and not have any near u so u can eat fast

[urban flax]

Because if stegos are "herd animals" meaning you need 2 stegos to survive a rex, then if 2 rexes come around, you both die
And you'll wonder why you and your friend didn't pick trike, who could actually have survived that 2v2

[tall vine]

Dilo and Omni cant 1v1 trike, if u consider trike.

[urban flax]

They can walk away, that's how they survive

[tall vine]

I see every day adult pachys solo, or herded with other herbis

[urban flax]

With other herbis yeah, because that's the only thing they're good at

or with carnis

[tall vine]

Ah, sure

[tall vine]

Dont play officials

Still pachy problem is It's weight/speed ratio compared to It's predators, and because of not being able to stun bigger playables past 1 ton or smth

[urban flax]

Yes
In other words, it's bad

Any dino that can't run from and can't fight its predators is bad and bound to only survive in mixpacks like pachy

[tall vine]

Same as Omni, having more pack members means more opportunities of accidentally getting 2 killed instantly cuz of 1 bad pounce, so It's fair, so if u think why play Stego instead of trike, u also think why play raptor instead of cera, and still people play both Raptors and stegos

[urban flax]

The difference is that raptor always has the choice of playing alone and be fine, and scales extremely well in groups, contrary to what you seem to think
Grapples has something to do with that

[tall vine]

Exactly, but stego can do fine aswell, sure u will have higher chance of dying against 1 specie if It's fg, but so does every playable has It's counter/predator Stego will finally have one and It's way harder to find a fg rex than anything else

[urban flax]

Unless rex oneshots it to the tail like it did in the video that was mentioned

[tall vine]

If u play solo u still have chance, just Like a solo raptor if it encounters a solo carno

[urban flax]

Which was the point of the conversation

[tall vine]

I never talked with anyone getting oneshotted in the tail, so then we have beem discussing diferente stuff

I'm sure if Rex oneshots a stego in tail now, it will not when released

And u clearly didn't mention that fact until now 🤣

[urban flax]

The pictures mahoa posted were from a video where a stego gets oneshotted by rex on a tailhit

[latent olive]

“to add more realism to the game” is such a meaningless statement

[bronze niche]

@maiden anvil current deino is fine, it could definitely use some buffs like putting on weight faster. but elder deino is suppose to be like the biggest apex since it will be able to drown a fg rex swimming

[maiden anvil]

It may work well now but I don’t see why it shouldn’t get buffed. I mean crocs irl go for bigger kills than half their weight I believe

[bronze niche]

yes but thats a little different considering its giant reptilian lizards its trying to drown

[maiden anvil]

Is it tho? If you see the image I selected and it looks real to me it could take down larger prey

[bronze niche]

balance

now they do need to configure some things tho, a fg trike shouldnt be able to go into the water and try to kill it since that literally makes no sense

a triceratops swimming should not be able to scare a deino into hiding underwater whether or not its fg

[brittle hedge]

What all you peeps think of this?

A cool idea I randomly came up with, so I see a lot of Complaints with not having enough unique playstyles in the game so a fix to this would be introducing Subspecies. So how subspecies would work is you have a damage subspecies that has increased damage and increased health but decreased speed and its slightly louder. Another subspecies would be faster growth time but hunger runs out faster etc, etc, etc, with a tiny model change nothing major js noticeable enough. So with a subspecies feature it would allow players to customize their playstyle more, and making each players playstyle more different between each encounter between players

[lunar mirage]

👌

[charred oak]

Is the Trex out?

[bronze niche]

its probably controversial and weird but it would be cool if a diablo and trike could crossbreed

i take that back

[brittle hedge]

😄👍

[copper cradle]

The issue with that is people would just go for the strongest version of that sub species and make things more meta which the devs don't want to have, it would also be annoying if you like the design of let's say the speed veriant but want the more damage stats, ik pot has this and its just poorly thought out

[brittle hedge]

True true but that why I included the downsides and upsides and there being more variety in what the upsides and downside are

😊

[faint folio]

Path of Titans has this and almost always people only play one subspecies because usually one of the subspecies is the best way to min/max the dino for combat.

More practically, I don't think it should be added because the final roster is already huge (I want to say 40 or so dinos?) and they're already having trouble balancing dinos without effectively doubling that number with subspecies. If people want a different play style I'm sure there's a dino on the final roster that will suite them

[brittle hedge]

Great point

But I was js spitballing

[urban flax]

@quartz meteor There is no hacking involved, and even if the devs had tried to stop it, they can't delete videos from youtube so it wouldn't change much. The rex they got is outdated anyway.

[quartz meteor]

It doesn’t matter. It should have never happened. People need to be patient and wait. I know we’ve been waiting forever, but the point I am trying to make is that people just ruined it for a lot of us that wanted to actually wait until the finished product was out. I get that Rex is an older model and allo isn’t even complete alongside austro, but seeing how they move, how the run ect… just completely threw all the anticipation and excitement out the window for a lot of us. Hell I’ve wanted allo forever, but not like that. Pretty lame.

Anywho, it is what it is I guess. Hopefully it doesn’t happen to any other future playables.

[willow kiln]

I mean almost everything about all of them is old. I feel like it’s made a lot of people more excited rather than disappointed. Seeing them in the game is awesome but knowing that everything about them will be better upon release makes it more exciting. But to each their own of course

[covert tiger]

@vivid mason this pin argument doesn't really apply anymore, cause Omni knocks away the target when pinning now, but it's visually bugged and it continues to attack the ground at the initial point of impact rather than traveling with the bumped target

[vivid mason]

wdym?

[covert tiger]

Go play Omni
Try pinning a boar or something
The target gets knocked away now but u pin the ground at the initial point of impact visually

[vivid mason]

..so? thats my point- and clearly its still the same

[covert tiger]

No that's not your point

Even if the target is standing still and you pounce it head on, it gets knocked far away and the Omni pins the floor where the target initially was

So the pin hit perfectly but the Omni visually didn't travel with it

[vivid mason]

wdym gets knocked far away? what are you talking about

[covert tiger]

I already filed this as a bug, precisely cause you and several others think they're not getting hit when they actually are

[covert tiger]

Have you tested pin at all in the latest patch or hordetest?
Pin knocks targets away now

[vivid mason]

yeah i know, i get hit but then i slide out, if i slid out the omni isnt pinning me anymore

[covert tiger]

Like a carno ram except further

It isn't a slide lmaooo
You can't escape or slide or crawl out of a pin the way it's currently coded
It's a visual bug where you got knocked away but the Omni stayed where he initially landed the pounce on you

Report the bug instead of complaining about a problem that doesn't actually exist

[vivid mason]

so youre saying omni does knockback now technically?

[covert tiger]

Yes and it was even in one of the early trike HT patch notes and now it's in evrima
It knocks back, but visually pins the ground where the pounce hit the target while the target lands far away

[vivid mason]

do you want to test that with me?

i wanna see how it works

[covert tiger]

Im currently sleeping (about to)
But it shouldn't be difficult especially on any admin server
Just try pouncing anything smaller than you as a fg omni and you'll see what I'm talking about

[vivid mason]

ill see then

[covert tiger]

Coolio

[vivid mason]

goodnight

[covert tiger]

GN

[wooden agate]

i think it falls to a matter of personal preference in the end. alot of people (myself included) didnt really care much for allo/rex/etc before this. but seeing how rex plays, and seeing the beginnings of allos mechanics take hold allowed me to conceptualize alot more how i would be playing those animals

[normal shuttle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ubRPjobQkl4?si=fLNFRqhQZaK8Z23Z ABSOLUTE CINEMA

[tall vine]

@quartz meteor Rex being out now wasn't made possible with cheats or hacks tho

[normal shuttle]

@maiden anvil deino deserves no buffs until it gets reworked and it can be a functional ambush predator

[maiden anvil]

Fair point

[normal shuttle]

I just don’t see any point in buffing it now to take down larger stuff when there’s no mechanic to prevent people from camping puddles or safe spots and then making it take on land stegos or drown fresh adult Rexes is just gonna make people not want to put up with their bs even further

Which leads to deino being ignored and disliked even further because no one wants to gamble an apex

Nor do deinos want to have their entire game plan countered by someone doing a dumb ritual

[tired quest]

We don’t need a buff—just put some fish in each lake or river evenly.
I don’t know if it’s too difficult for the dev team to code or something
and its NV is terrible

For example, since they turned East Plain into a giant lake,
I’ve never seen more than three elite fish spawn in the entire area.
This means that if you’re an adult Deino and crawl all the way from Central River to that lake,
risking being caught and dehydrated, and dominate that area, you’ll still starve because the lake is so lifeless.

[normal shuttle]

Nah not even more fish

Leave it dead for now

[tired quest]

why not disable it then

[normal shuttle]

Also a valid option

[tired quest]

plus we are not asking for more fish, is to proper spawn like land ai does

[normal shuttle]

But tbh deino is a no go now

[tired quest]

guess asking for a proper working ai system is also valid point

[junior nymph]

@wicked slate thats a hacker lol

[wicked slate]

makes sense lmao

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

"the upcoming perk system" brother mutations were added like a year ago

also subspecies sound like a surefire way to make the balance of this game tank into obliteration

[latent olive]

i sense an AI post

[crimson torrent]

I don't mind extra decision-making regarding your playable's playstyle, but 'brute' and 'dodgy' are a bit uninspired. This would probably never happen because there's already too much to do, but picking 1 of 2 options once you reach a certain growth that ties in with your specific species could be fun. Raptor increase bleed from claw latch or lower weight threshhold for pin. Troodon make venom a low dmg dot or increase visual impairment intensity. Small stuff like that, that gives you a little buff in the way you want to fight.
But while potentially fun, it opens up more balancing issues so probably not worth it.

[normal shuttle]

Can’t wait for sub Rex being rebranded as Albertosaurus and then Albertosaurus having its Nanuqsaurus, Daspletosaurus and Gorgosaurus rehashes

Balance hell if you wanna make them meaningfully distinct

[lunar mirage]

this is what surviving looks like on the isle for deinosuchas currently

[normal shuttle]

Just give up bro

Let deino die out

[lunar mirage]

i have like 7 fg deinos.. its chill (skill gap)

i want ai back in the water but, i am able to grow so idk. its just hard mode right now. will make me a better player in the long run

[wheat nova]

@dusty wedge make sure foliage physics is off

[dusty wedge]

It’s not really a huge bother. Only lasts for a few seconds for me. It’s pretty consistent tho only happening once every time I start the game.

[quartz meteor]

lol

[jaunty isle]

If i want to try out the rex do i enter hordetesting?

[fleet crescent]

My game looks absolutely terrible even with epic settings it once looked okay but now it’s just annoying I try since months to get the right it’s unsharp it’s just looking bad can anyone please help me to get good graphics please I even have lossless scaling and it’s not a good experience

[junior nymph]

whats your 3d resolution?

and also just monitor res

[fleet crescent]

My monitor is 1920 1080 and my 3d is in Game User settings my 3d is 100

[junior nymph]

interesting do you have the config folder still?

[fleet crescent]

Yes

[junior nymph]

delete it

[fleet crescent]

I deleted it today it came back

[junior nymph]

delete it again

banish it to the shadow realm

[fleet crescent]

I changed 3d res even to 150k

[junior nymph]

its a old folder for legacy thats no longer needed

[fleet crescent]

Ok

I will delete it again and tell you

[junior nymph]

k dont CUT IT actually bin it

[fleet crescent]

I rightclick and press on the bin that says delete right?

Now I start the game

[junior nymph]

yeah

and if you have done it right all your stuff with be reset

[fleet crescent]

It respawned

[junior nymph]

ask #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧

[fleet crescent]

But my settings are reset

I did no one awnsers

[junior nymph]

read the pinned

[fleet crescent]

Ok 1 Moment

There is nothing to help either

But why did the thing just come back???

[junior nymph]

I dunno

[fleet crescent]

Maybe it looks good now

Nah still looks 💩

[vital laurel]

@vivid mason another idea for the hitbox would be that omni does a turn around anim and pins if it pins when the dino is behind it, if the devs want to keep to noob tube a noob tube with the hitbox

[vivid mason]

i cant even imagine how wonky that'd look

troodon gets pinned on the floor as the omni is STILL turning around

[vital laurel]

Well if they target gets away maybe it cancels

Wouldn’t it work with your 1st idea?

[vivid mason]

maybe, but sounds unnecessary to code in- what are the cases the target DOESNT get away

[urban flax]

@stoic finch Slowmode hasn't been increased...

[tall vine]

@blissful oasis wat is QTE?

[mortal parrot]

@solemn hornet The Cerato changes are at least a step in the right direction

The only issue is that some of the nerfs it got were too minor

[pliant elm]

@frail jewel Dilo need buffs? You are Playing the same game as me and all the other players?

Dilo is one of the strongest playable currently and you want to make him even stronger? Lol

[frail jewel]

that thing turns like an actual truck

has 0 stam

and is really not that good when youre not 3v1 something

if it had a group slot of like 5-6 then okay ig thats fine but imo yeah it does need a bit of a turn and stam buff

[pliant elm]

You don't even need to be close to your prey to kill it man xd

Dilo can kill a Cerato, Carno and even a dibble just by biting it until it turns purple and spamming clones

[frail jewel]

no i know just dilo cant kill anything if its more than 1 that isnt a small teir

[pliant elm]

I've already killed an entire group of 4 ceratos at night just by biting each one once

Dilo doesn't need a buff, he needs a rework and a nerf

[frail jewel]

i mean call it a rework then

idm less venom damage just why is its turn and stamina so bad for how light it is

i can totally see less venom damage for extra agility

[pliant elm]

Dilo doesn't need agility with this venom

Dilo needs a rework to make his combat more interactive, as well as reduce the sounds of his footsteps. But his agility should remain the same.

[frail jewel]

i can agree with all of that but nah man that thing turns so wide its rediculous imo

like its hard to punish misplays when you have the turn radius of a semi truck

[blissful oasis]

quick time event

[limber hull]

i agree with an anti-pin mechanic, but I despise DbD's way of doing it and really think it'd be anti-fun in The Isle

[potent flower]

would be nice if having high stam when you get pinned meant you can also fight back while pinned, even if it won't kill your attacker. at least then it feels like you're not going quietly into that gentle night

and if they're low health you might just kill them instead

[limber hull]

lots of canni rex requests, i wish people would realise how that would do so much more harm than good

[south sphinx]

True but at this stage rex has a hard time getting food

[limber hull]

yea, that's good

[south sphinx]

Not saying i like canni

[limber hull]

and of course it does, every server is playing nothing but rex

its hard to make a solid claim when there's not an ecosystem and instead over a dozen adult rexes running around on an unofficial server

rexes should 100% kill each other, i just dont think they should eat each other (without the mutation)

i actually think the current diet for rex is really good. all the herbivores and AI, but zero carnivores

probably lining up with Dondi's desire to remove as many carnivores off diets as possible

[south sphinx]

You know what wouldve been perfect?

If they would implement like medium sized dinos that they arent bothered to make playable and make it AI, it should not be fast but i should be able to fight back

It makes devs work a bit easier and rexs experience better

[limber hull]

nah id hate that

they did that with teno AI and it just made megapacks insanely sustainable

and PvP basically just not worth engaging with because it was too dangerous

also rex doesn't NEED an easy experience tbh

you pick rex, you should realise you're signing up for a world of hurt

[south sphinx]

Were not saying it should be easy, just a little bit easier

[limber hull]

they want adult rex to be an achievement and a rarity

[south sphinx]

True

[limber hull]

the easier carnivores are basically every other carni in the game, rex isnt that

[runic vale]

did they fix the fish spawns yet or is deino still unplayable?

[tired quest]

no

just search for the word "fish" "deino" you can see ppl asking and complaining like every hour

[warped remnant]

@willow kiln Sadly that’s intended. Cera gets stability while charge bitting now which makes it so you can’t charge it if it’s not a 3 Sec charge I believe

[willow kiln]

wow thats insane, why do they keep buffing cera it already has so many things that help it its wild. Not only do they keep buffing cera but they nerfed carno. thats not balanced at all for two dinos that are supposed to be direct competition

[limber hull]

The issue with that direct competition concept there is no, they aren’t. Cera has always been depicted as something carno doesn’t want to mess with

[willow kiln]

carno should not be the type of playable thats scavenging though. I have a better chance of killing things as a raptor than i do as a carno and it should not be like that at all. Carno is a beast

teno is really hard to kill maias are rarely seen and they're always in a big group anyway, ceras are impossible if they're fg so what is it supposed to do lol. At least its fast so it can run away from things

[limber hull]

Carno isn’t a scavenger though, it’s just specialised in hunting things smaller than it

[willow kiln]

when you only really have 1 or 2 dinos you're able to kill youre gonna be scavenging

[limber hull]

you have several dinos you can kill, not to mention just steamrolling juvis

[normal shuttle]

@woeful ravine cannibal Rex would doom us all

[normal shuttle]

Erm

Omni
Dilo
Pachy
Dryo
Hypsi
Troodon
Beipi
Herrera
Galli

And every juvi to have ever existed except for ptera and deino, as well as several subadults being free food

Also cera in the open can be picked apart ngl

[fleet crescent]

@tiny vector what is fsr and what does this do

[tiny vector]

FSR is AMD DLSS

[fleet crescent]

Ok I have the right ingame settings

But it still is awful

Like I said the Not necessary config file Krepps coming back

[hollow jetty]

@long edge run the game in windowed fullscreen instead of fullscreen and this issue happens way less/not at all. Otherwise if you want to fully disable the key combination there is some software you can use or modify the registry

[patent tree]

So, does anyone know the end game of what night vision is supposed to be after all is said and done? I find it inconsistant and I assume it's just lower on the list of things that need TLC rn, but Deino's rely on it for underwater and in those darker depths of underwater, I find the outlines, which are helpful and not too intense, are really inconsistent even close up at time. I was under the impression that Night vision was to help with close up terrain or detecting close movement and you trade it off for lower range of visability. If that's the intended end game, I have nothing to add and am excitedly awaiting the changes, but if not, what's the goal with it?

Totally fine if nobody really knows atm too, just looking for answers. :3

[junior nymph]

@limpid bear ive always hated patrols I feel they should only be used for juvies and small things and the migrations would be where all the adults go because they should add larger plants and such in a migration

[patent tree]

Patrols as an answer to Sactuaries would actually be cool

[junior nymph]

like you would go to a sanc or patrol

I feel that would be cool

[patent tree]

For carnivores specifically. Like a collection of AI

Ye!

[junior nymph]

ye migrations and patrols should have increased AI so if you go there and theres no herbis you still will have food

[patent tree]

Agreed

[limpid bear]

mb dduddde

[junior nymph]

lol its just my opinion 🙂

[tall vine]

Ty

[limber hull]

ehhh

that's just making sanctuary 2 tbh, i dont know if thats worth doing

[junior nymph]

they could also just make it so patrols dont respawn

turk had a good idea for them I just forgot it

but it was something like it points to the closest abundance of food and once you eat 1 bush it changes but the actual rest of the food stays and you can eat it and once it rains all patrols grow back or something

[limber hull]

my concept for them is quite simply "have them spawn a fair distance away from you"

for instance, seperating the island into 4 quadrants. If you're in the North, a patrol will spawn for you in the South, you get the idea. Encourages cross-map movement

[wooden agate]

speaking of zones

i havent seen a migration zone on my map in months lol

[wooden agate]

@rugged fox #general-feedback message its possible the server youre on has disabled MZ's/PZ's, which would lead to that

herbivore diets are dynamic and change based off MZ/PZ, otherwise they just have the 3 or so options and have to travel the map looking for the plant spawnpoints

if you were on a server with MZ's/PZ's, you'd likely have a far more varied diet

also dinoden in general should be avoided because they spoof their playercount on the server list

[junior nymph]

@clear canyon it would be sick if that mutation increased NV underwater and it increased watersense by like 10-15%

[clear canyon]

One or the other maybe

[junior nymph]

I would like both honestly

[clear canyon]

I’m sure you would

[blissful oasis]

i love you

[wooden agate]

you are the funniest person in this discord

[blissful oasis]

idc if this is sarcastic but it means alot to me no matter if it is or not

[fleet crescent]

Has anyone a solution for my graphic problem yet?

[wooden agate]

it was not

[junior nymph]

@rugged notch I mean the game is now catering to not just deino and other semi aquatics will be able to go to places deino ownt

[fleet crescent]

Is a rtx3060ti enough to run this game so it looks good??

And a ryzen 5

[junior nymph]

should be

[rugged notch]

deino and beibi rely travelling via water fast atm,it would be nice to visit some other place than only east side of the map,like from water access to swamp. more rivers and travel would be easier for those.

[fleet crescent]

My video storage is 100% full when I run the game at high is that normal?

I even overcooked my gpu and it still looks not that good

Overclocked*

[junior nymph]

beipi doesnt need to rely on water to travel. Deino does but there is suppost to be spots where deinos dont or cant get to

[junior nymph]

you might have a bottleneck

[fleet crescent]

What is that

Maybe I need new ram or something or a new mainboard

[rugged notch]

so you are saying that deino players dont deserve to see anything else of that map but swamp and east? few rivers more to access in west and north wont break gameplay.

[junior nymph]

no what im saying is the game does give deino stuff yes but there should be areas where deinos cant get to otherwise future semi aquatics will be unplayablw

also the north can be accessed. The west can be accessed you just need saltwater