general-feedback-discussion

[junior nymph]

and ladies and gentlemen they are trolling

[halcyon wolf]

what with social currency? meh. it would get abused just easily, so yea

[junior nymph]

why did you switch the suggestion?

[halcyon wolf]

because of what I just mentioned above

[junior nymph]

yeah then just delete the suggestion

no need to edit it 10 billion times

[halcyon wolf]

nah

[boreal thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1387898118774853673/John_Cake_Prowler.gif

i sensed danger

[junior nymph]

herbi pop control...

@onyx fjord get rid of your config folder

[onyx fjord]

like just delete it?

[junior nymph]

you are on EVRIMA right?

[onyx fjord]

ye

[junior nymph]

k yeah just delete it

it will remove all your skins and keybinds btw

[onyx fjord]

not a big deal

will it fix my sound problems tho?

and where is this config located at

@junior nymph

i have no "saved" folder with config in it

[junior nymph]

#🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 message

[junior nymph]

@real anchor thats already planned LOL

[real anchor]

The game is saved, but when? Is there info on when the update may come out.

[junior nymph]

No etas like ever

[runic eagle]

@wintry whale hi,
sorry for disturbing, me and my friend got killed by a hacking trike that was knocking us down from far away and was also speed hacking.
i reported it to the evrima-eu channel. i would like to ask if a regrow is possible, i was 80 percent and my friend 82 percent. i didnt manage to record it for proof but more peopel complained about it.
thank you very much.

[pliant elm]

@junior nymph This would be nice if migrations actually worked

[junior nymph]

I mean

we know that rn its just saying we can make something do something we want when we want so it will get a actual rework in the future I would assume

[pliant elm]

Every time I played as Carnivore and Herbivore after the update, I didn't see a single migration appear. This update broke migrations even more...

[boreal thorn]

hey, I dont think admins can grow someone without video proof or a f2 recording.

[vestal vapor]

@dusky bluff wd cranked ai to 50x made no difference to players.

[dusky bluff]

?

[vestal vapor]

yes we increased ai to 50x spawn rate and it barely made a dent on the ai seen in game.

Update is out, be sure to update your game

[quartz meteor]

@junior nymph this is literally why deinos can no longer survive in swamps. I definitely agree. Removing the patrol zones is a definite must.

[charred oak]

When will T Rex be introduced in Evrima? Any guesses

[faint folio]

Unironically, when it's ready

But speculating....

I suspect it will be in HT a similar length of time if not longer than Trike

Just because with great power comes careful balancing

And especially considering that it's younger stages are intended to play pretty different from the adult... So it's QA testing essentially 2-3 playables in one

[dusky bluff]

good play regarding ai. to see if it holds in a few hours (I hope) I haven't seen any frogs at the moment to see in a few hours too

[vagrant phoenix]

Anyone know if a 4th mutation slot has been added? I'm hearing some Dilos on officials say there's 4 mutations and some stuff, I don't really believe it

[limber hull]

only for elder

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh they've added it?

[limber hull]

they did for raptor on the HT for a short bit

but not on live no

[vagrant phoenix]

Sad

[dusky bluff]

it's a lot ^^

[vagrant phoenix]

The ai is finally fixed, I hated that you had to get real close to get them to spawn

[dusky bluff]

WOW

[elfin willow]

@subtle moth i think a majority of the community would agree w/ you but everyone is eager for rex (i mean not everyone but most lol)

[subtle moth]

I’m really excited for Rex too, don’t get me wrong 😭 but I just would hate to see a lot more problems emerge with it being added, or problems just not being fixed before its added either

[dusky bluff]

the continuously increased number :/

[real anchor]

Where was this confirmed?

[junior nymph]

by dondi on a stream

[elfin willow]

@lime karma liked the suggestion but this would negatively impact growing, since a lot of dinos (especially stego, trike, and deino) are afk simulators.. and adding to that growth timer just because you aren't constantly moving would be annoying asf. i think if it only applied to dinos over 80% or so it would be beneficial.

[junior nymph]

<@&933486433342222376> ban this man

yay

[elfin willow]

what happened? LMAO

[junior nymph]

scam

[elfin willow]

oo those are obnoxious.

[junior nymph]

rip that guys discord

[gaunt mica]

is the Trike dealing 4k dmg per attack on purpose?

[junior nymph]

yes

8K damage to a stego on the head

it feels like a apex which is good

I hope we go back to everything feeling powerful and not weak and if you messup you die

[gaunt mica]

how is T-rex even gonna stand a chance?

[junior nymph]

it also has high damage attacks 💀

it 1 shotted a maia

[gaunt mica]

i heard T-rex is gonna be able to 1shot all land carnivores with 1 bite to the head

Trike does that with 1 part of the attack to the body

[junior nymph]

look. trike is the 1v1 KING right thats its main thing

rex is the ambush king right. thats ITS main thing

so if a rex gets the ambush on a trike the trike dies, but if a rex fights a trike without the ambush it dies. You see

[gaunt mica]

yeah but trike is herb there will always be 5 of them

[junior nymph]

then you single one out

[gaunt mica]

idk i feel like the way trike was it wouldve been able to 1v1 a T-rex, theres a diffrence between 1v1 advantage and 1v1 impossible to kill super mega super duper op broken

also i dont know alot about T-rex tho

[junior nymph]

I think this discussion should be talked about when rex releases

[gaunt mica]

maybe its just so far ahead other apex like crock or stego

it was already stronger than them

[foggy field]

Rex should always focus on lone/injured/old/young trikes like it did IRL

Also, a pair of rex will have no issues with a lone trike most of the time

[gaunt mica]

idk i dont like this its so far ahead of every other animal ever seen in the isle history

[foggy field]

Cause its our first proper land apex now

Stego is also insane mind you

[gaunt mica]

doesnt even come close rn

[foggy field]

Becouse its a much smaller animal

3.5 tons smaller

Almost a entire Maia smaller

[junior nymph]

stego is like acro from legacy. Its a apex for anything smaller than it but when its something larger it should just leave its not a pvp game so it doesnt mean everything needs to fight everything. Deino is meant to hunt midtier animals like maia allo and dibble so fighting apexes is not needed for them

[foggy field]

Trike is easy to avoid, has super lound footsteps and its only faster on land them deino, if u get hit by it you were not paying attention

[gaunt mica]

i guess if goal of the game is being 100% realistic

from gameplay POV wont be funn for anyone i think

[junior nymph]

its meant to simulate a ecosystem and where it is going with executions and less stunlocks im excited

[junior nymph]

nah it wont be fun for players who just like to PVP which this was never the game for that in the first place

[gaunt mica]

it doesnt have to be black or white. it could be favourable towards trike not impossible. also if u play trike and nothing could ever beat you that isnt a funn experience, just look at everyone on the servers playing that is dying to pvp just trying to kill stuff running at it but nobody will ever fight it cus its way to overpowered

but will have to see how carnivore apexses are maybe they will stand a chance

[junior nymph]

@midnight pasture the stam was not high skill lol

just keep crying bro

its a fix not a nerf nor is it a buff

[elfin willow]

I made a suggestion to try to appease them in #balance-feedback but it only has downvotes so far. I guess they are only interested in easy hunts since when they drained stam from most things they couldn't fight back and was an easy meal? 😭 My suggestion makes them work for it.

[cyan flame]

Can someone clarify what the raptor stam change is/what it did?

[elfin willow]

Adult raptor used to pounce things and drain some stamina. Somebody said a default pounce on a stego would drain up to 35% stamina from the stego, with a full pounce.

The last patch, BABIES were able to do it - so baby troodons and omnis were able to completely drain dinos stamina, so instead of fixing that they removed stamina drain from raptor pounce all together (from what I've gathered)

[gaunt mica]

raptors not the dinoo to bully out of all of them tbh xD

[midnight pasture]

It was a core part of the omni. The pounce is bugged hard

[junior nymph]

it wasnt a core part of omni lol

[midnight pasture]

The pounce mechanic?

Yes it is

[gaunt mica]

you should play a raptor and try to kill a stego its really hard XD

[junior nymph]

it was to drain stam

thats all it was

[midnight pasture]

Have you not play omni the dino is broken af

[elfin willow]

In my balance feedback suggestion, I said give them a larger stamina pool or a possible mutation. I think that is a fair add to replace the stam drain. Stego has terrible stam regen while standing, literally just bait its power swings.

[junior nymph]

dummy did you even understand what they changed?

all they did is if you pounce and something moves it doesnt remove stam

so a juvie raptor cant hop on a trike and drain all its stam

[cyan flame]

I know the first part, stam drain on movement from being pounced, even from a single troodon or omni as stego was a thing. So now it can't drain at all then, does this apply to both omni and troodon? Did someone check that?

[elfin willow]

they removed it for all growth stages. adult omni will no longer drain stam as well.

[junior nymph]

yeah good.

[cyan flame]

The pounce, yes, the stam drain, not sure honestly.

[elfin willow]

I believe so - all latching/pouncing creatures no longer drain stam to their targets while latched.

[junior nymph]

it was added for grappling and for now you will just have to do it the old fashioned way

[elfin willow]

Because bb troodons at the time before this hotfix could drain an adult deino's stam as well as juvie omni, lol.

[gaunt mica]

well also pounce was bugged probably why they added the nerf

you could drain a stego 100% stam before u go out 1 raptor if using very simple bug ingame

it involved the dinosaur moving

[elfin willow]

that's why they are mad. 😭 They don't want to c ompromise. they want stam drain back and it ain't happening.

bucking takes wayy too much stamina than it is worth. it's better to just stand and conserve stamina.

[gaunt mica]

stego can still beat like 8 raptors np if u corner camp so idk why they focus on raptor nerf tho even there a stuff like TRIKE and STEGO ingame being unbeatable to everything else

[cyan flame]

Alright. To be fair, a single troodon draining stamina from a trike or a stego because it takes a few steps forward, walking, is a bit silly. Omni makes some more sense at least.

[gaunt mica]

it truely is silly yes xD

[elfin willow]

Ofc that makes sense, lol, but doesn't make it any less 'unfair' for their targets. when i was arguing before about how it doesn't give much option for some herbies to defend themselves w/ lack of stamina, Someone said 'they should be punished for being out in the open/not around trees/rocks' which is WILD. All I hear in feedback is complaining rather tahn trying to find an alternative like I provided but no one like it 😂

[cyan flame]

And then when people use terrain, they get told that's bad too xD

Yes, I've been around long enough to see how silly that particular debate goes

On one hand, they hate terrain use. On the other, when you argue bucking is bad or otherwise no good counters, you get told to just use terrain.

Makes sense somehow, I'm sure

[elfin willow]

Exactly. It's never a win. Don't get me wrong, I do think this is a handicap! But if raptor had more stamina pool or a mutaton that allowed them to stay latched on longer with less stam drain - THAT would be wonderful and i think a good alternative.

[cyan flame]

Well, I would revise how it all works, similar to my stego revision. But my main issue is that they want the pounce to be the main attack, and that kind of... limits good ways to counter.

You can't make counters too good, if the attack is meant to be used constantly and consistently, but at the same time, that makes it unfun for the target

[gaunt mica]

some people (including me) think that a skill should be rewarded in a game and the herbivores are all super strong execpt for like hypsie and so.
so when the raptor who is not really that strong gets a nerf whilst the really strong herbs gets buffs it feels really bad for people who invested time to get good at the game

[elfin willow]

Pounce could be if that was implemented. 🤷‍♀️ 80-90% of the time omni packs want big hunts for more food/bigger reward and their main tactic to fight trike or stego is latching and that would be a huge benefit.

[cyan flame]

Them no longer draining stamina on being attached is good, if they also add something to discourage terrain use, and instead focus on bucking being good. Or well, discourage terrain use in the sense of scraping off omnis, not in the sense of using it to block attack vectors I'd say

Should clarify that, people tend to lump all terrain use into being bad

[elfin willow]

also can't omnis just be backpacks to avoid getting hit off with terrain? xD

[cyan flame]

They can, yes, though it might be a bit unreliable

[elfin willow]

fair, ofc. I do agree with you partially. Diablo was released way too soon. It packs a heavy punch and no carnivore can kill it without having to risk death (even ceratos, one slip up and you are on orange/yellow health if they hit you down and get 2 more hits added onto that).

Even good teno players body most carnies incredibly easily.

[gaunt mica]

yes it does

[elfin willow]

I think carno getting a weight buff will help with that. Carno right now is not viable against teno because when it gets tail slammed, it just stands there for a few extra seconds getting kicked in the face. 💀

[cyan flame]

I would agree, but well, look at stego vs trike currently. Only skill there is "run for your life" :D

At some point, size and power matters more than skill, that much is clear

[gaunt mica]

and it feels like they are toons heavier it should be not possible, but 100% logic doesnt always make a funn game,
would u like to grow a dino for 1 irl year because its more logical? No. so compremises to reaility for a more funn pvp experience i think would do this game really good

[cyan flame]

Not much, that's the thing. You can survive, you're viable, but it's not neccesarily fun, no.

Though good omnis can probably beat up tenos and diablos and similar, probably a maia too, if they go about it correctly

[gaunt mica]

yes but a bad dibble will kill good omnis even tho omni is meant to hunt bigger ones

[elfin willow]

Yes. a solo utah can def kill a teno if they are good. 😭 - when i was a new teno player i literally got solo'd by a single utah that bled me out.

[elfin willow]

half the time bad dibs dont even know how to go into sparring mode. 😭

[gaunt mica]

true lol

[cyan flame]

To be fair, teno requires a fair amount of skill and smarts, it's one of the better designed playables still I'd argue

[elfin willow]

idk. maybe making the stam drain option into a mutation is more viable.

[cyan flame]

If more playables had the variety of attacks and options teno do, it'd be more fun

[elfin willow]

true. even now that i'm better, good omnis can bait my tail slams. thats when i just try to claw them xDD

[elfin willow]

tbf i think tenonto has the best kit in the game. no other carnivore has a kit that quite matches it. (cerato is just childs play)

[cyan flame]

Sure, I 'm not personally entirely against the drain, though I wish bucking was better, and for the love of god, no RNG please

[gaunt mica]

well i played tenon for 10 min and was able to beat good cerato players on pvp servers because its so much stronger than them

[elfin willow]

they musta not been good.. cerato can kill teno incredibly easily. 😭

[cyan flame]

I personally hope kentro gets to be similar, there you have a playable that unlike stego, has more options, and could be much more of a "fighter" like teno

[gaunt mica]

just head kick twice per head kick and then they are like half HP

they added stability tho to cerato now right so it doesnt get cc Ed

[elfin willow]

And i mean, how much is kentro going to weigh? is it going to be a viable herbivore carnivores can hunt or another diablo that people hesitate heavily to even attempt to hunt?

[cyan flame]

It's teno size, I think Islecord said around 1.4T perhaps

It's not a big critter, I know that much

[elfin willow]

oh perfect then! I think the only thing people will be at risk for fighting them is bleeding out, LOL

[cyan flame]

So it'll probably be lik teno, more defensive, and worse to pounce for obvious reasons

I guess it might get the trike autokill on the spikes, would make sense

[gaunt mica]

i think maia was only balanced big herb

[cyan flame]

But also, stego/kentro weak head, so easier to kill it via bites than stego at least, since much much smaller

If it gets that head weakness, but it would also make sense

[elfin willow]

I think maia is also very well rounded BUT... it's controls are so hard to learn at first, haha./

[cyan flame]

But you'll have some herreras drop on it, only to drop on the back end and that should be hilarious xD

[gaunt mica]

yeah so there you also have skill cieling if you wanna invest time and be good

[elfin willow]

I wish the corpses would stay on your spikes and then rot off. Hard core 😂

[gaunt mica]

like growing not only as a dinosaur but also in your capabilities to survive in a fight is really funn

[elfin willow]

Definitely. And with tactile maia can just run away if they dont got a ton of bleed 😂

I love playing maia when I want to just chill and run around. It reminds me of a big, tanky galli that's cuter.

[gaunt mica]

skill keeps people playing sense of achievment and stuff and if u remove that all you get is a simulator that people play for 20 hours than says it was cool experience then never play it again

[mighty girder]

Isle players have an unhealthy obsession with wanting to pee and poo as a dino

[gaunt mica]

you should be able to smell the poo and pee aswell

[cyan flame]

Which is unfortunate, because it would add to tracking and potential territory and stuff.

[gaunt mica]

so you can track people around the map >:)

[cyan flame]

But people for some reason seem to be more inclined to.... focus on the visual aspects, rather than any useful mechanic

[cyan flame]

Would actually work and make sense, and the best part, it doesn't need to be a visible thing. Just a scent marker on the ground really.

[elfin willow]

Breeding visual WHEN???? 😂

[gaunt mica]

maybe thats a bit to realistix chomp xD

[cyan flame]

Yeah... that... honestly not even sure we needed the egg laying part.... xD

[elfin willow]

This was a joke don't smite me mods 💀

[elfin willow]

Ngl i cringe

[cyan flame]

But it is a bit of a shame, because there is potential to "long term tracks" or some such

[elfin willow]

Just make them pop up in the nest like legacy LOL

[cyan flame]

Footprints being short term, and then some kind of long term scent marker, so you could arrive at a abandoned migration spot and go "Oh, there's been this or that here"

[mighty girder]

I cringe everytime the pee on tree suggestion comes up like bro stop if you want to “set a territory” just stay in one area and dont leave and kill everything there you do not need to do anything else

[cyan flame]

It would make sense with being able to leave scent markers, but you could just have the playable scratch the tree or rub against it like wallow or some such

[gaunt mica]

super high potential game but when u dont have countermessures like trike dealing 4kdmg per attack now is gonna be insane the first time you die then its annoying the rest of the time untill u quit the game due to unbalance reasons

[cyan flame]

Run away, trike can't catch anything

[gaunt mica]

what a funny experience

half the server is unkillable btw enjoy!

[cyan flame]

Go off and survive on your own, that's the game

Not saying it's fun, but it's intended, more or less

[elfin willow]

Trike is supposed to hit like a train though. 😂💀

Mf big backs eating all the food in my tenos patrols...

[gaunt mica]

i dont care about it being intended like trike getting a buff when already being the strongest is redicoulus

[elfin willow]

What buff did they get..?

[gaunt mica]

like 3.5k dmg extra on normal stand still attack

[cyan flame]

Massive damage increases

You one shot stegos on the head now, even without knockdown I think

So like, 3K or so attacks, not all of them but your more powerful ones

[gaunt mica]

yes 1 part of the attack to stego head is 66% of its hp

[cyan flame]

900 base damage I believe

[elfin willow]

That is a little wild LOL. I mean.. it is 'realistic'.. and if you get snuck up on by a trike deserved LOL

[gaunt mica]

other part would be around 140% of their hp

[cyan flame]

Well, stego can run so it's fine. You know I disagree with it personally, but it is what it is :D

[elfin willow]

I imagine if a trike was to stab a stego in the head, it would die. 😂

[elfin willow]

I know I was just saying if a trike somehow manages to sneak up on your stego and hit it in the head, kinda deserved to die 😂😂😂

[gaunt mica]

yes but then its only the trike that is reallistic what about stego hitting the tail in its body thats a bleeed oiut for trike no matter what

[elfin willow]

Idk bleed wise but power swing to a trike (atleast before) i think took 4 swings to kill a fg trike.

[gaunt mica]

well if u want it realistic like trike then it should be 1

or maybe two depending on the hit

seen the spikes on that thing. for trike its like getting stabbed with three knives and making it without medical care

[cyan flame]

True, no issue with that really :D

[cyan flame]

Wouldn't matter, now you can't go near them, so the matchup is entirely out

Unless it's 3v1, and even then the trike can probably play defensive and survive, and just knockdown and kill the stegos one by one

[elfin willow]

Yeah i was saying before lol.. i already expect the species war. Every stego is going after sub/baby trikes now 😂😂😂

[cyan flame]

If nothing else, might get us improved juvies

But I think subs can handle stegos well enough

[gaunt mica]

actually on pvp server trike 1shot dibble with 1 part of its attack

[junior nymph]

yeah

me when the 9.5T animal actually is as powerful as a 9.5T animal

[gaunt mica]

well its no funn for anyone

there has to be a middle between Realistic and game balancing

[junior nymph]

it is balanced

thats the thing right. you can WALK AWAY nothing is stopping you

like ofc you are going to die to a trike its a Trike

[elfin willow]

Wdym my teno cant insta kill a trike with one bite??? Rigged

[junior nymph]

its because a bunch of people see it as if I cant fight it its unbalanced

[gaunt mica]

its not balanced

[junior nymph]

it is

[gaunt mica]

in no way possible is it. it was already stronger than every other animal now its just ridicoulys

[junior nymph]

best way to fight a trike is to WALK AWAY

[remote aspen]

dying here 😦 for the third time because there are no fishes and elite fishes in the swamps in EU4 !

[junior nymph]

meanwhile every other dino is 3T-6T or 8T and the 8T thing can sit in water and the others can walk away

[gaunt mica]

yes btw 8ton vs 9,5 one deals half its hp

[junior nymph]

wanna know why

[gaunt mica]

in 1 atatack other one does 10% nice balance

[junior nymph]

cause that 8ton creature is built to ambush and killl midtiers

that 9.5T is a 1v1 machine

[gaunt mica]

i give crock an execption but u say its 1v1 machine what is gonna 1v1 it?

it will never happend nobody will fight it because its a diffrence betweeen balanced and broken

[junior nymph]

anything larger or something that plays well or is in a group or they get a ambush etc

[gaunt mica]

see here u say play well but you see the 4kdmg buff makes it impossible

[junior nymph]

these carnivores we have rn are small tiers.

which yes is a issue

[gaunt mica]

yes well 4 ceratos should be able to kill it but i doubt it anymore

[junior nymph]

no it shouldnt be able to kill a trike wth

hmm yes lets let the CORPSE BULLY take on the APEX

get allo in get rex in boom you have stuff for dibble, maia and trike

[gaunt mica]

look you are so focused on what exactly tells you its the 1v1 king?

devs? or facts?

[junior nymph]

its a ceratopsian, it cant take more things than 1

terrible turning, meaning if you get a group of allos or 2 rexs the trike wont be able to fight them all

[gaunt mica]

because right now in the way you are arguing if a dibble charge trike and get a hit to the stomac it should bleed to death cus balanced=realisitc

[junior nymph]

no I think if a dibble runs into a trike the trike does a but ton of damage the dibble still lives if it doesnt take enough damage just sit.

[gaunt mica]

well it was that way before this change

[junior nymph]

yeah and now the 3T animal rams into a trike and the trike that is 6.5T larger humbles it

[gaunt mica]

yes a rhino attack elepahnt = instant death

[junior nymph]

nice one twisting words to play in your favor

but look this is what im ending with cause its just my opinion right yours aint senario. The devs want a game that is LIKE A ECOSYSTEM meaning you cannot just fight everything and sometimes you walk away otherwise you die there ya go if you dont like that and you bought the game for big dino pvp, go buy path of titans thats the whole game.

[subtle timber]

i know its not my conversation but the trike is literally meant to be a powerhouse, unless you're a trike or in a group simply dont fight it

dibbles arent intended to beat trikes 1 on 1

all respect tho didnt mean to butt in rudely

[gaunt mica]

i dont see why u cant have it both way you say well dibble shouldnt win vs trike okay i agree. and it didnt win against trike before the dmg buff. the dmg buff was compleatly uneccecary and it only made the trike more broken( which it didnt need) u say its to simulate a eco system i just gave u a point regarding elephant and rhino so this dmg one shot thing isnt realistic either in a eco system

[cyan flame]

@vivid ruin I think it's so you're not meant to be entirely defenseless when out of stam

[vivid ruin]

You should be punished for burning your stam especially in a fight though

[cyan flame]

You are, the alts do less damage out of stam, and you only have your alt + whatever basic attack at that point

So there's still clearly punishments for being out of stam + the inability to recover due to thresholds

And especially with that, if you remove alt out of stam, then you can only really stand there and die

[vivid ruin]

Eh I still think you shouldn't be able to do it

[cyan flame]

Depending on the playable, but still

[normal steeple]

@hybrid mica run in quad, drift tap biped and shove them. or u can chip them down by headbutting them while rapidly drifting

[pseudo dagger]

this isnt pvp game, and its trying not to be, so stop talking about how your not able to kill things 10x your size. - to whoever needs it

[pliant elm]

The Isle is a 90% pvp game (currently)

[pseudo dagger]

which isnt very good..

[pseudo dagger]

exactly, you dont have to fight everything that moves

[junior nymph]

I should ask why am I still up its 4am but yes.

[pseudo dagger]

oh sorry, its 1pm for me lol

[junior nymph]

nah its alg im still on the isle LMAO

313 min session

so a whole 5 hours

[eternal ingot]

-137,227.988, 370,145.069, 30,220.51 at this location there is waterfall sounds when there is none right by the new waterfalls in the top field

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message omni mains when pounce dosen’t drain stamina on top of the 20% speed reduction, 1,000 damage and bleed that it causes:

we can’t forget about grapple

[vernal jacinth]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[vestal vapor]

@tame jetty @junior nymph @drowsy nimbus

Why x #general-feedback message these are new issues as of todays patch.

Ref ai over spawn issue

[drowsy nimbus]

People dont have to like your opinion, i disagreed with trikes damage change, it has 6 foot horns, weighs 9.5 tons and has 9.5k health its gonna hit hard

[vestal vapor]

Thats fair, it already did alot of damage. Doing more while it has exploitable issues just makes a bigger problem.

[drowsy nimbus]

It just didn't feel right to me personally like it wasn't as strong as I would've imagined, although its based off of videos since I haven't actually gotten to play yet but that's why I like the buff, not because it makes a problem but you know what I mean? 😭

[vestal vapor]

It regens too fast, from 25% it only takes a few minutes to fully heal out pacing everything.

If it's looking at an omni pouncing from the side the omni insta dies (any pounce attack dino dies)

[drowsy nimbus]

Id have to play or watch a video on that to give you my opinion, since I haven't heard of that

[vestal vapor]

Then why vote?

[drowsy nimbus]

Because i can, and I like the damage changes

It shouldn't be an issue you can js go on and play the game idk

[vestal vapor]

Then this convo is done.

[drowsy nimbus]

Sure gang

[pliant elm]

Trike has one of the worst hitboxes in the game now that stego has been fixed xd

[vestal vapor]

Trike is not in a good place with it's issues. We need an Apex that can combat it for sure now.

@finite agate ref #general-feedback message i disagree with the stamina boost, if it could use it's feet to grab then taking bits while flying makes sense.

I do like the idea of grabbing organs on the ground though that would be awesome and fit with it's normal grab attack that works on fish and small dino's.

All it takes to bork ai on a server is to camp out the beach south of sp. Turtles and crabs then will slowly move up across the new field towards the new cliffs and pond.

Quite a sight to beholden for sure.

[normal shuttle]

@fickle cave low effort bait

Not funny nor infuriating

#general-feedback message why do I get so much hate? Does anyone really find deinos any likable? Not like they’re gonna be played much at all in the new map

[vivid ruin]

Its funny finding out who the garbage players that delete their stam every fight are and can only alt spam with this suggestion

[winter void]

may because move n drink is a bug that got carried over from hordetest ? ':D

[normal shuttle]

Let deinos die until they’re good playables

Also a skillful knowledge check for seasoned players as they can use this tech to run as they drink and travel longer distances

[winter void]

Well for some they are good playables.. enough peeps enjoy them.
Drinking while Walking (especially away from the water source) is a bug we already had quite a while ago. It will get fixed and it should.

[gaunt mica]

omg where is pteranodon grab feature for like hatchlings and very small juvis xD

talk about epic start

like grab into air and drop xD

[south sphinx]

This is where we need quetz

Imagine picking omnis up and dropping them

[whole dawn]

Did they fix ai??

[pliant elm]

yes and no

but AI is spawning now

[glad rock]

absolutely no. nothing on that map. 3 days of starving to death cuz of zero ai

[whole dawn]

Fish ai?

[pliant elm]

although there are still bugs with the fish and many bots spawning in one place

[glad rock]

good luck with that. no fish. tiny schools here and there. but maybe 1 normal fish on the whole map

[pliant elm]

They are appearing from time to time, but it is still a little bug

[bleak cove]

Trike dmg buff is absolutely insane ngl

[indigo gulch]

Yes. I still like playing em 😦

[bleak cove]

Only other trikes can kill trikes now

W balance

[indigo gulch]

Or a good coordinated group of omnis

[bleak cove]

I dont think so, but maybe troos

[pliant elm]

Trike has a hitbox as horrible as the stego had

[bleak cove]

Apexes should be strong, i get it, but not literal gods

[indigo gulch]

Pffff….unintentional I hope?

[pliant elm]

They fixed the stego hitbox in this update, but they didn't fix the trike xd

[indigo gulch]

Well let’s hope it gets fixed soon then

[pliant elm]

I hope so too, this update seems to have brought even more bugs

[bleak cove]

By your logic, 4 dibbles should kill a trike then, and they dont

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/programmer-developer-debugging-code-testing-fixing-gif-7663766

Definitely one of my most used gifs lmao

[pliant elm]

Before this absurd buff in damage to 4k, 4 dibbles could

[bleak cove]

That's what i mean, this buff is ridiculous

[indigo gulch]

Trike can oneshot a stego to the head now btw a friend of mine tested it

[bleak cove]

Holy bad balancing deffending 😭

Its "realism" only when it suits you

[pliant elm]

What dondi wants is to lose players and not gain more players xd

[limber hull]

I mean, it’s not really realism either

Omni straight up doesn’t exist lol

[pliant elm]

Yes, Discord

The maximum number of players was 12k

[bleak cove]

Rex is going to release, a lof of ppl will play, then they'll get fed up with the bad balancing of the game and they gonna play other dino games. That's whats going to happen

[hexed palm]

The better word is believability

[pliant elm]

Damn 🔥🔥

[bleak cove]

I mean, i want to see this game succed, but i dont think the devs want it too

They barely listen to their community

Unlike... Yk...

That other dino game

[pliant elm]

I agree xd

[bleak cove]

Guess wich one i play more often lol

I havent touched the isle in months, i've been playing lately bc of the trike

[pliant elm]

The Isle is a game with huge potential, it is a unique game, but it is ruined by some specific people

I love the isle, and I want to be able to play this game and have fun

[bleak cove]

Be careful of what u say, they cant handle criticism, they might ban us lol

[pliant elm]

True

[limber hull]

The game exists as it does because they acted on criticism

The “banned for criticism” thing started because people confused attacks with criticism, got banned, then whined on the reddit

X Zaguer is my favourite example because he quite literally had a public meltdown, got banned for quite literally cussing out Dondi to his face, then made a vid where his hissy fit was conveniently absent

[mortal parrot]

@pliant elm #general-feedback message Cerato's Charge Bite is suppose to be a defensive tool and Cerato is not suppose to be easy to push off a corpse as it is a "Corpse Bully" if Carno can just keep ramming into Cerato with a Body then it would be Cerato not fulfilling its Niche as a Corpse Bully.

[pliant elm]

Do you really want to talk about fulfilling your niche?

[mortal parrot]

#balance-feedback message I just posted this

[pliant elm]

Not to mention that Cerato is not a huge mid tier. It is the same weight as Carno and can even kill Carno extremely easily if you know how to play (Obviously)

Cerato doesn't need to be a "Let the computer do everything for you while you press a button like someone who doesn't have the slightest ability to think".

[mortal parrot]

Couldn't Carno be the same since it is just M2+W

[pliant elm]

Do this against the current Cerato and you are dead

[mortal parrot]

I think Carno and Cerato are in a great spot rn, there can 100% be improvements to both but the changes both got are 100% in the right direction

I started seeing a lot more Carnos then Ceratos recently

[pliant elm]

Well, if make Carno ignore the stability buff that a body provides, but keep the stability of the charge bite and the damage reduction of the body, this will make Carno capable of hunting A cerato, Cerato will be able to defend very well due to its damage and will also be able to defend itself from things like Allo

[mortal parrot]

The 2 Videos you posted are evidence that the 2 Playables seem to be in a great spot, Video #1 shows that Carno can actually fight a Cerato in a 1v1 instead of it feeling completely 1 sided and the 2nd Video shows that Cerato is actually a corpse bully

[limber hull]

Because they removed all of carnos jank leftover from 1800kg era and now it’s its own animal with a decent level of viability

[mortal parrot]

Yeah

[limber hull]

New Carno is massively slept on

Because people are obsessed with cera

[mortal parrot]

Cerato could use a few adjustments

[limber hull]

But Carno is a mobility king which dominates plains and terrorises anything small

[pliant elm]

What many want and what the devs are doing is that Cerato does not require the minimum ability to play well, and this only makes Cerato even worse

[mortal parrot]

Carno shouldn't be able to stun Cerato using charge bite with the corpse buff, if it did Cerato would just be completely bullied

[limber hull]

Cerato is strong, yea, that much is well known, but ironically carno is almost entirely safe from its reign and can simply hunt what it wants and needs

[mortal parrot]

And Carno pretty much controls a Cerato fight since it can easily leave when it wants

[pliant elm]

Yes, Carno should stun. A cerato that cannot defend itself from a Carno even with a damage reduction buff should stop playing the game

[mortal parrot]

Unless Cerato is near water it cannot

[mortal parrot]

Here is the thing, Carno can easily just stun abuse the Cerato

[gilded isle]

i completely agree, both are in great spots, both can fight each other, both have their own advantages.

[pliant elm]

Cerato has an agility that allows it to easily dodge the charge and can also apply a massive amount of damage with 1 attack. If, with all this, you still want Cerato to be immune to Carno charge... 🫠

[mortal parrot]

Yeah, Carno completely controls the engagement of the fights since it can leave whenever but Cerato can only do that if there is water

[pliant elm]

Where's the problem with that? There are 2 carnos xd

[gilded isle]

ceras are faster swimmers than carnos, but carnos outrun ceras in straight line, no?

[mortal parrot]

I meant for escaping if things go south

[pliant elm]

"What do you mean I can't fight 2 carno with my solo sub cerato? Unfair"

[mortal parrot]

That's a 100% Grown Cerato vs a 100% and Sub Carno

[pliant elm]

Damn, And still lost?

[gilded isle]

i dont think cera would stand a chance if this fight was on land??

[mortal parrot]

I would have died, I encountered them earlier and only managed to live by swimming away

[gilded isle]

exactly.

[mortal parrot]

If there is no water around then Cerato has no chance of escaping and needs to fight

[pliant elm]

Cerato has very good chances both on land and in water, but it will depend on each player knowing how to play correctly

[gilded isle]

ure saying cera can defend itself while 2 carnos are legit charging at it?

[mortal parrot]

Yes but that's not the point I'm trying to make

[mortal parrot]

Sounds more like a 1v1 situation

[pliant elm]

Yes, run into a forest, stand on the rock of a cliff or go swimming. Your chances are in how you think

[gilded isle]

i said on LAND, not WATER.

[mortal parrot]

Carno has a minor advantage on 2/3

In a 1v1 fight with nothing around it is in the Carno's favor

[pliant elm]

But he has a very good chance of winning this 2v1. Of course, there are 2 Carnos, so didn't want to beat them easily xd

[lunar mirage]

attacking a trike as a dilo and no poison on them ???? i had poison, and bit them maybe 25 times and no poison,

[pliant elm]

Day?

[lunar mirage]

yes

[pliant elm]

Fair

[mortal parrot]

Headshots apply less venom to Trikes and Dibbles, weight dependent, and applies less at Night

[lunar mirage]

im new to dilo so does it not work at daytime ?

[pliant elm]

Dilo has weaker venom during the day

[gilded isle]

what are you even saying? ure suggesting cera is stronger on land in a 1v1 against carno which is completely not true, especially in a 1v2 cera has not a single chance.

[lunar mirage]

25 bites and no stages at all ?

sub adult trike btw

[mortal parrot]

Dilo gets venom at 40% growth

[lunar mirage]

i was 65

i had the bars at the bottom

[mortal parrot]

Headshots apply less venom to Trike

[gilded isle]

does take a while, maybe some of ur bites didnt land

[pliant elm]

Cerato can handle Carno very well in 1v1, but this requires knowing how to play and not wanting the playable to do all the work while you don't even have to think. Xd

[lunar mirage]

i mean if i hear it cry out when i bite i assume i landed it but it may be a bug

[pliant elm]

3-4 charge bite kill a Carno

[lunar mirage]

also no bleed whatsoever

[mortal parrot]

You made this sound like a bad thing, but it is in all honesty, a really good thing

[gilded isle]

ur bites do barely anything to trikes, they are also fast healers and stronger against bleed

[pliant elm]

This is a bad thing, except for people who don't want to have balance and fun in the game. Carno is 1.3t and Cerato is 1.3t too, cerato not weigh 2t xd

[gilded isle]

just fight them at night, they can not see anything, especially when poisoned +so much easier for u

[mortal parrot]

With the body buff Cerato pretty much weighs 2.6T

[pliant elm]

Yes, and this is something that helps him defend himself against things like Allo and Sub rex

[lunar mirage]

okay but i followed a trike that i was TALLER than for 5 minutes, bit him 25ish times and he never bled and also never had even the green stack of venom.

[gilded isle]

there isnt allo nor rex in evrima?

[pliant elm]

Carno should be an exception, which ignores the body stability buff

[lunar mirage]

then i got hit from 11 feet away and he killed me

[gilded isle]

then maybe broski was hacking

[pliant elm]

Not yet, but soon it will be

[gilded isle]

no it shouldnt. both are in great spots currently and both have their own advantages.

[lunar mirage]

pretty sure it was desync, but getting knocked down to it and then takinf 4 seconds to stand up is ridiculous

[mortal parrot]

You're upset that Carno a Small Game Hunter is having trouble trying to steal a corpse from something that is designed to be a corpse bully that is hard to push around when near a corpse?

[gilded isle]

ping also plays a big part in gameplay. id stick to hunting trikes at night

[pliant elm]

I'm "upset" because with every update they want to make Carno even more useless, and consequently more forgotten. Many still have these thoughts about the Carno because they hate the old 1.8T Carno xd

[mortal parrot]

...Carno got buffed heavily

[gilded isle]

no, you just feel like they made it more useless which is absolutely not the case.

[lunar mirage]

i want a cant be knocked down perk. call it grounded or whatever. but its pretty bs i trade 25 attacks for 1 and die. atleast let me be red hp and reconsider. guess herbis win again. P.S. the water ai is still broken. round of applause.

[mortal parrot]

Sub Trike weighs at least 6.5T, it takes a lot of bites to envenom it and were you solo?

[lunar mirage]

i was taller than it

i was 65%, hou couldnt have been more than 35%

[pliant elm]

Yes, it is. Carno not being able to hunt something like the 1.3t Cerato is stupid. Many don't even want to learn how to play properly and want the other playable to be nerfed at all times.

[mortal parrot]

Doesn't matter, Venom is dependant on a few things

1. Time
2. Weight Difference
3. Locational Damage

[lunar mirage]

75% damage reduction to the head, i was biting the body

[mortal parrot]

Trike was buffed to 900 Biteforce at FG

[gilded isle]

then. hunt. something. else.

[gilded isle]

im sorry????

[mortal parrot]

Yeah, Thrash now does 2K damage

[lunar mirage]

when i attack something im bigger appearing than i dont care what it is, you guys need to realise this was not a 9.5 ton trike, not even 3 or 2, most likely 1.5 tons, and it was like i had 0 effect

[mortal parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGK7Fe1W1rM

[gilded isle]

it does not matter. trike that appears shorter than u weights 10x ur weight in any scenario.

fg ones dont even look heavy at all?

[lunar mirage]

got it, they are invinceible thanks for your input

[mortal parrot]

Carno is intended to hunt Small Game if alone, hunt things its own size like Cerato and Teno with a group

[lunar mirage]

this discord is full of dummies. goodnight. enjoy your 0 skill herbis while it lasts

[mortal parrot]

Did you fight an Apex alone?

[pliant elm]

Oh, of course we have only 4 other things that Carno can hunt: Dillo (Can kill a Carno very easily), Omni (Just jump on Carno and use the damage pounce, but it is still good prey for Carno), Galli (well, he's actually good prey for Carno, but nobody plays him), Pachy (Break Carno's leg and run away or try to kill Carno and you'll probably succeed). Well, things that Carno can actually hunt properly for the "Small game hunter" is only 1: Omni

[junior nymph]

how are people STILL crying about AI

[mortal parrot]

People complain

[lunar mirage]

BECAUSE THE RIVERS AND LAKES STILL HAVE NONE

[junior nymph]

me living as a full grown deino off straight AI

[lunar mirage]

WHAT SERVER ?

sorry caps

[junior nymph]

you can do it on officials but also theres unofficials like mettas den

[gilded isle]

fish isnt fixed, land ai is amazing

[lunar mirage]

"you can do it on officials" i did before the patch. so have you played officials ?

[junior nymph]

I have had loads of E fish and schools

[pliant elm]

This print was quick

[uncut vortex]

land ai is suck bro are u kiding?

[junior nymph]

I think its a skill issue I cant lie

[junior nymph]

I do play officials regularly since im australian yes

[lunar mirage]

your who im talking about. "apex" a baby is far from apex

[gilded isle]

they literally are. a 35% trike weights almost 3t with damage around 300. of course ull tickle it and of course its gonna oneshot u.

[uncut vortex]

bro u expact babay to grow?

walk around finding food it really fun?

and how about new player?

[limber hull]

It’s a survival game idk when “walking around and finding food” became unusual

[mortal parrot]

Apexes still spawn large and grow fast until Sub

[pliant elm]

Are they appearing in the lakes (Water access, Highlands, Southplains, swamp center and east swamp) Correctly?

[junior nymph]

yes. Done it many times. Even with no AI this isnt even bad AI spawns its just the lack of knowledge

[uncut vortex]

we need to swating on the time finding food

cant ever take a break

[junior nymph]

highlands,water access, SP and delta all work iicr

[uncut vortex]

i know where is ai spwan

[lunar mirage]

i really dont care. no bleed and no cuts, no venom. i enjoy some balance. not babies that one shot you. and i dont know if it was sub or not yet. it was small. my back was tallere than it

[junior nymph]

do you ever use reduce food drain mutation or do you use the dumb meta and cry when you die

[pliant elm]

I'm going to try to grow a Deino now, I haven't played with him in a while due to the lack of AI

[uncut vortex]

the diet it just suck

[junior nymph]

I wouldnt advise it lol trikes trikes trikes

[lunar mirage]

also im a salty deino player that has not been able to play it for over a week

[uncut vortex]

i have see boar in 2 day now

have"t

[junior nymph]

where do you usually play

like do you walk around the map do you hear the noises etc

casue you can hear a boar or deer believe it or not then you are just set

[pliant elm]

Well, now trike causes 4k to 8k when adult with trash attack, so it should also cause grotesque damage when smaller, even though I don't think it's fair

[uncut vortex]

it dont have it mannn i hear food stap and dear and boar but it dont really there

and when it spwan it spawn it front of me

it make game so stupid

[junior nymph]

if they increase AI to any higher amount it will just mean people can no longer fear starving

[junior nymph]

what?

I did not understand your sentence there

[lunar mirage]

all im saying iss its fine i lost the fight. but really 25 bites to a not fg trike by like 6-7 hours left to grow and no venom ? so basically a fg trike vs a pack of dilos is a joke as well. 100-400 bites and he probably killed most of us

[gilded isle]

i just literally told you, while its still a baby, it can one shot u, it appears to be a baby, but its not one.

[pliant elm]

Well, try fighting one at night

[lunar mirage]

your opinion is just " trike is god deal with it " is not a goood argument,

[junior nymph]

I mean that baby has been growing for like 2 hours

[lunar mirage]

i will and i will report back tomorrow my findings

the trike was 6-7 hours left to grow

you not playing pack animals shows.

[gilded isle]

fullgrew 2 trice, took me less than 8h.

[zealous violet]

Died because I literally had only 1 frame. I did the cleaning of files and it helped a lot but then this happened. Holy beans.

[junior nymph]

thats not what im talking about

[lunar mirage]

is therew something negative you have to say that needs to be worked on or are you just here to refute what people have to say ????

[gilded isle]

im saying u underestimate baby trikes. which u did in that case and it got u killed.

[lunar mirage]

i died to a lag spike to the poorly optimised game, and his attack knocks me over for a ridicuous amount of time. if there was no lag at all i would still be alive, you are inexperienced and ignorant with your remarks

[lunar mirage]

IVE KILLED THEM WITH TROODONS SOLO, why cant the dilo ?>???

[gilded isle]

ure getting personal here, play the game more and learn on your mistakes.

[lunar mirage]

lag=mistake.

got it have a good night

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

i want humans

[cosmic lantern]

are you mental?

[limber hull]

not to my knowledge

[mortal parrot]

I want humans too

[cosmic lantern]

WHY would anyone want this? im so done with this nonsense

[woven bane]

immersive

[mortal parrot]

Humans are gonna be weak, guns and ammo isn't gonna be common

[cosmic lantern]

...have fun playing ark then

[mortal parrot]

Also there are very likely gonna be community servers where humans are disabled, maybe even some official ones

[cosmic lantern]

yeah just turn everything into a shooter "gaming"

[urban flax]

Humans were planned to be playable before dinos were

[cosmic lantern]

10 years ago a lot was planned and prommised

i give up this is stupid have fun with ark from wish

[urban flax]

And this part has never changed

[mortal parrot]

You should watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFqZc0ZK2g

[junior nymph]

why you crashing out about humans lol

[urban flax]

It's funny how narrow-minded people always go "humans+dinos = ark"

Like it's the first game ever to combine the two, and not the worst

[cosmic lantern]

because i have a strong opinion on this and i'm most definitely not alone - played this game over 6 years and we are done with this non nonsensical changes that nobody asked for

[mortal parrot]

Like?

I can think of a lot of stuff the community asked for and made a priority or added

[urban flax]

Putting "changes nobody asked for" and "humans" in the same take is a bold move
And false as well

[junior nymph]

so lemme get this straight you have been playing for 6 years... Insane but like why only join the discord now?

[cosmic lantern]

the scares food that promised to be fixed ages ago- balancing always favors herbis and so on and don't get me started on the Map and traversal changes

[junior nymph]

• alot of people old and new are interested with humans

[cosmic lantern]

because i was curious... and wanted to voice my frustration

[mortal parrot]

1. Be specific
2. Not True, the recent HT gave 4 Carnivore Balance changes
3. We did ask about that, the community wanted stuff like more human structures and different terrain besides jungle

[urban flax]

"Balancing always favors herbis" ? And you say you've been playing for 6 years ? You both ignore current state of the game and have a very short memory

[cosmic lantern]

don't be so dismissive

[mortal parrot]

wdym by Scares food?

[cosmic lantern]

whatever i'm done

[cosmic lantern]

play deino AND FIND OUT

[mortal parrot]

Maybe take a break from Deino then?

[cosmic lantern]

Dude i play everything however i'm done now

[mortal parrot]

Alright then, cya

[boreal cloud]

Go enjoy some fishing brother life will be better

[cosmic lantern]

sounds good mate, been a while

[boreal cloud]

👍

[mortal parrot]

Oh yeah, Bary and Austro are upcoming playables so fish ai should likely be expanded on and more prey for Deino to get

[limber hull]

I have a group of friends who literally are just waiting on humans to start playing. Hell, my girlfriend is mostly interested in the human aspect

[cosmic lantern]

good for you i guess still don't get why.

[junior nymph]

feesh

[gentle lichen]

Why exactly needed that already op trike another buff? I have a suggestion. How about setting all other dinosaurs lower with weight as well?
This game is unplayable with that kind of priority of the defs

[junior nymph]

what?

[gentle lichen]

You can oneshot a stego with a trike now

https://youtu.be/UGK7Fe1W1rM?si=KxfjpCX5mPuXNBwP

[junior nymph]

trike got humbled by cera, carno, troodon, teno, maia sometimes, dibble and stego

[limber hull]

how tf is maia on that list lol

[junior nymph]

buddy I know I was first to see it

[gentle lichen]

This is the biggest bs ever. I am not even a stego player. But THIS is crazy

[junior nymph]

eren and turk did it twice

[junior nymph]

wanna know how you fight it

answer you dont you walk away

you dont need to fight everything

[gentle lichen]

Even when ure on its ass and it does trash you get damage its the biggest bs

Haha good joke when legit everyone is playing trike

[junior nymph]

then kill them when they are small...

[gentle lichen]

Wow. Good advise ure so smart lol

[normal shuttle]

I think trike getting a damage buff is good, but yeah that thrash damage is unreal and should be toned down a little

Either way buff stego because it got powercrept hard

[junior nymph]

I mean like yeah it is good advice

[gentle lichen]

I guess im gonna do the canni trike

[junior nymph]

get used to killing apexes when they are small

[gentle lichen]

I did already but you cant get them all and the trike population is already insane. No chance for stego anymore.
Ofc the trike mains do like it. Not much you have to do.

[junior nymph]

me when the new playable is being played alot

stegs can walk away. They have no need to fight rn

[uncut vortex]

dont talk to Frolo he is the dev protactor bot

[junior nymph]

protactor lol

[gentle lichen]

They cant always walk away. And do you really want trikes to rule the map

[gentle lichen]

Lmao

[junior nymph]

no. But we have nothing for them rn

[gentle lichen]

I see what u mean. It doesnt make sense xD thanks for the advice

[junior nymph]

💀

someone doesnt agree with your opinion = dev bot. Good one mate

[limber hull]

i mean

they trot and sprint faster than trike

[gentle lichen]

Bruh a 6.1 ton trike is only 0.1 slower than you. Youre doomed as a stego with that

[maiden anvil]

@jovial vine I was about to dislike as I thought you were gonna suggest “side bent dorsal plates”… then I saw what you actually did suggest and I like that idea

Perhaps it would be able to move like that in charge mode only?

[jovial vine]

It might need to be seperate since charge mode has the sprinting golf swing already, maybe just slapping it on CTRL

Attacks would be targeted jabs, power jab, and a front arc swing that swaps what side is facing forward and has some slight knock back but low damage

Understandably a lot of extra work

And ofc kentro could get the same thing

[latent olive]

@jovial vine KENTUCKYSAURUS

[maiden anvil]

Personally I don’t really like using power swing while going fast so it’s no problem for me like that. Tho I see what you’re saying

[gentle lichen]

Everybody ❌ ing my comment. Are you insane or something? You cant tell me this isnt crazy? If they wouldve increased it the half that would already be way enough. What is this?

@vagrant phoenix #general-feedback message

They rather give it a crazy buff instead of fixing that as you can see. Smh.

[vagrant phoenix]

it happened twice too, i was so annoyied that thats how i die the moment i hit full grown

[gentle lichen]

Yes i died to this as well

How unfair unbalanced and op can a dinosaur be.
Answere : yes

[vagrant phoenix]

The trike was the size of a dibble too, we were doing damage to it but everytime i went for a bite, that thrash attack got me

[gentle lichen]

Smh.

This is very disappointing. I really liked this Game but since the new update it annoys me more than it is fun. I might take a break and see how things develop

[vagrant phoenix]

same here, but ill keep playing and figuring things out

[maiden anvil]

It’s an apex, deal with it

[grizzled matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-meme-shrek-gif-26228171

[maiden anvil]

Was this one for me?

[gentle lichen]

its an apex deal with it mimimi... blabalbala... *roles eyes

[limber hull]

i mean... besides the thrash, i really dont see an issue

i'd reduce the thrash, but everything else has decent damage amounts for what an apex with trike-sized horns should be doing

[grizzled matrix]

I mean i'm fine with the increased damage, i'm not okay with trash doing 2000 damage and 3000 damage when the prey is stunned, that's a bit overtuned

[buoyant lance]

@cosmic wigeon Lets not forget about old take off animation o/ Was much more better back then...

[gentle lichen]

plus it legit can trash u with its butt, if u stand behind it u still get the damage, which absolutely makes no sense

[winter void]

ye its a 360° protection move xD
died pounce its side while thrashing forward ':D

still the new base dmg and alt is fine imo. Just some hitbox/detection work and a lil bit less on the thrash maybe 2.500 on stun and 1.500 on non stun, that would look more like a punish for getting knocked.
but just like a slightly lowering of dmg. Its the most dangerous herbie we gonna get (i think at least) and it should be a raw power to be scared of. Even it should have a harder time growing ig..

[grizzled matrix]

Yeah the combination of extremely high damage and enormous hitboxes is what i'm not okay with

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message @dusky fjord They're working on a counter to mixpacking as we speak

[quick halo]

so was dilo during its time...

[untold sandal]

i just died bcs of losin momentum over making turns while i was running away from a cera...

[normal shuttle]

Only one I don’t really like is the thrash especially with knockdown

But everything else seems reasonable

Just nerf thrash but leave it doing still a lot of damage on knocked targets, buff stego so it doesn’t get overshadowed in its very thing and we’re fine

[pliant elm]

More omni nerf and more cerato buffs, why not? 🔥🔥

[lunar mirage]

wallowing busted for an enitre week, na dont patch it, water ai causing the waterways to not have any deinos, na dont patch it.

oh the land ai was working well enough to feed people ? just a little difficult? patch it. oh omnis and troods are draining herbis stam ? patch it

[pliant elm]

That's true xd

Cerato being Op for 2 years? Buff him. Omni needing tweaks to his pounce animation after being knocked down by a tree? Increase the knockdown time for him to get up, lol

[lunar mirage]

this is all from a doe. not even a buck. #deer op

[alpine oasis]

why do people use AI to post isle suggestions
#general-feedback message

[red compass]

I made sugestions skill list how dino shud act and all for dinosuco and not get one cent for IT

[alpine oasis]

@mint helm #general-feedback message

deino is getting a kit adjustmnt very soon, dont judge yet

[mint helm]

i hope

Also they gotta fix the fish ai quickly 😭

[red compass]

Its evil not got noting for awsome sugestions eawen ncsoft for help made beter encro and map system give me free copys of both guild wars games

[urban flax]

translation ?

[red compass]

Blizzard for demon Hunter class i made in diablo 3 give me big thx all diablo books and diablo collection stuff

I made to question for dyino suko to be Putin in the King to be the last huge krokoku KEN kill t-rex bigger by force full skin armo and not death roll

[lunar mirage]

we need fish. cant use any kit without some starter ai to get us going as a baby

[red compass]

Over years i made lot games sugestions

Heros and generała they stard bicikle in forest map i tell why notnadd tanks and morę vehs and they be awsome till player get to op vs tanks

When all cen easy kill tank gamę stard go down befor when tanks be hard to kill all be generała gamę got tons players he

[alpine oasis]

#general-feedback message @hushed flint

did u see trikes gorns compared to stego head? the 1 shot is legit, if a spear the size of ur stego neck and crushes ur skull ur dead.

also this makes it hard for trikes to get the head. if a trike attacks u from front and trhashes ur head thats YOUR skill issue, or they are TOO good

acro is a carnivore, a hunter. stego is a dam herbivore...

[red compass]

When i see first time Tiger one i hide at earth to they not spot me they destroy all vehs tanks be mega scery awsome gamę wish be back

[alpine oasis]

ii wasnt talking about that

[urban flax]

No
Nothing should be able to deal 6000 damage in a single attack, that's absurd

[red compass]

I help made coro int isle my post at steam forum made the Dino born

[lunar mirage]

you were talking about deino and his changes that are coming. changes to a dinosaur that is starving before 15% every life wont really do much

[alpine oasis]

lmao nothing does?!

[hushed flint]

Ok but by that logic deino should be able to one shot

[alpine oasis]

trike does 3,000

[hushed flint]

It does 6000 to stego

[urban flax]

If stego is a oneshot, that's 6000 damage

[alpine oasis]

but lack of AI isnt a feature its a bug

[urban flax]

Damage modifiers are included

[red compass]

Croeo shud be hard kill thx for his skinn and his bit force shud be biger then t rex remove death roll when bit eat be awsome not canibals awsome add morę npc dinso to Rivers be awsome

[alpine oasis]

honestly, yes if it gets the right angle and the right attack

[alpine oasis]

thats a single dino
and it deserves it

[hushed flint]

Do you realise how stupid this sounds

[lunar mirage]

and is been 8 days now with a patch that ignored the issue and resolved things for herbis. again

[red compass]

And croro i know if be strong all but at land they not this call balance😁

[urban flax]

It deserves it ? Why ?

[red compass]

I'm gamę art for ages and all.my sugestions end be awsome

[hushed flint]

No it doesn’t
Anything dealing that amount of damage is absurd

[alpine oasis]

because the weak point is very small and can be defended (by running away)

[red compass]

Pitbull cen kill humend

[alpine oasis]

deino was lacking AI for months

[red compass]

Yet they your pets ant size of humend be stronger then hulk

[urban flax]

It does not deserve to be a oneshot

[alpine oasis]

@wooden agate i would love u join this conversation 🥰

[hushed flint]

Exactly
Sure it should cripple it but one shot is too much

[lunar mirage]

up until a week ago i had 0 issues growing to fg. once trike came all the water ai disapeared.

[alpine oasis]

lowkey yeah
maybe make trike thrash do 2500 so it keeps stego on red

[alpine oasis]

even more?! wow.

[red compass]

I got morę sugestions for isle one go crossplatform Play station Xbox morę players he

[urban flax]

That means trike is a better ambusher against stego than rex could ever hope to be

[hushed flint]

Yea even then that’s so much better
Because stegos can actually survive that

[alpine oasis]

and ye lmao i think if deino gets a grab/latch/hold or wtv u call it, i want it to snap a stegos neck or crush its skull

[hushed flint]

I think 2000 damage would be better tho

[red compass]

And morę dino som shud net mti egs ather less eggs no mix donos teams no chat onle sounds he

[hushed flint]

What is your beef with stego

[urban flax]

That's ridiculous

[hushed flint]

Like trikes damage!

[red compass]

So player don't chat thers bleedding Dino lets kill IT whit out chats gamę be morę like you Dino he

[alpine oasis]

i agree, if trike was faster i will not want it to 1 shot stego
im fine cuz stego can easily run, theres no danger that cant be escaped

[lunar mirage]

deino should be able to grab anything that is swimming in my opinion. as long as the deino is fg. having to run from a swimming trike is a little silly.

[urban flax]

Trike doesn't need to oneshot stego to be a threat to it

[hushed flint]

But what about when it’s a 6 ton trike
It still knocks stego over and it can’t even escape

[alpine oasis]

🤷‍♂️
nothing really, i started maining it with trike release but sadly not anymore, i cant kill trikes now

[urban flax]

It's like saying teno is faster than cera, therefore it's fine if cera oneshots it

[alpine oasis]

im talking about how realistic that hit would be
but i can see it dealing 5000 dmg be actually less bad

[alpine oasis]

they said smth about kncokdwon in patch notes, does this relate to it? cuz idk

[urban flax]

Making it realistic isn't a good idea

[alpine oasis]

it is when its danger can be avoidable

[hushed flint]

This is my point
Stego stands no chance currently

[lunar mirage]

A Nile crocodile can pull 150% of its own weight when hunting, indicating they can overpower larger prey in aquatic environments. if that is true of todays crocodiles then the deinosuchas should be able to pull 12 ton animals under water if they are swimming. any thoughts from anyone ?

[urban flax]

Nah, balance always comes first

[hushed flint]

No thank you

[red compass]

Dinosu ar my Dino sory but true i made IT life Ask me he shud got morę Hp healing fast like all crocos in real life grab enemys kill easy trex see blood and snif in Water and to be under Water for one h like real ones do they ar last big Dino coro Ho got full body Armo no soft belly and they shud grow over time non stop like real ones till you to big to hide and hunt do add morę Water Rivers be awsome and land Dino force moving find safe spots

[hushed flint]

Exactly

[cyan flame]

It's not meant to. Is it boring, yes. Does it work out, yes. Stego is viable, it just has to run. They don't want apex stego, even if it could be.

[hushed flint]

Its power swing is literally to combat apexes…

[lunar mirage]

well its just factually true. and if deino is suppose to be the apex in the water right now why does it lose to a swimming trike

[alpine oasis]

but, my point is..

does it need to?

[hushed flint]

Yea it does…

[cyan flame]

Though the whole "x would oneshot y", what do you think would happen if a trike got a thagomizer through it's neck? Pretty sure that'd kill, just like a deino getting it through it's head. So if people want to apply realism like that, stego would oneshot a lot of the things in return.

[alpine oasis]

escaping is a part of balance

[cyan flame]

It's clearly not, as we can see now.

[red compass]

Balance ar from naturę croeo kill all strong big healing life toxic Water eat all arent as canibals as in gamę slower at land and his onle enemy. Ar him self they go big over time onle animal Ho never stop grow realu cool but the thing ar they be to big to go land to big to move fast he

[hushed flint]

But that’s its purpose
So it should fulfill it

[urban flax]

At this point it's not about wether you stand a chance
It's about wether you get your 6hour growth istantly deleted because a trike decided to and you took too long to run away

[alpine oasis]

if ur 50kg skinny 6 foot guy
will u go fight the 5'5 guy thats 90kg and is built like a truck?!

[hushed flint]

One shorting a 6 ton animal is not part of balance

[red compass]

One animal run ather def athers atack balance ar the best naturę system he

[alpine oasis]

or will he still MAUL you

[cyan flame]

Maybe they changed their minds, you're not fighting a trike, not even 2v1, maybe 3v1 and you might still lose a stego or two due to the oneshot

[hushed flint]

The 90kg guy won’t kill you in one attack

[alpine oasis]

but if he gets a grip on u ur dead, if he wants

[cyan flame]

Then they'd have to agree that stego is an apex and meant to contend with them, but currently it's not, just like deino isn't. You're powerful, but not that powerful.

[red compass]

I got 20 kg amstaff im not skiny not fat but she cen drag my ass over Grass if i not hold lesh 🤣

[lunar mirage]

deino is very easily stealing hours away form people, fg teno, dilo, swimming steg, dibble, ect

[hushed flint]

But then power swing is useless

[cyan flame]

Not at all, it's useful vs small stuff, where the jab is still not a great attack

[urban flax]

Just because deino can do that doesn't mean everything should
Also deino is limited at things under 4 tons

[hushed flint]

Exactly it’s unfair even for this game

[red compass]

If ever humends be add to isle shud be same as donos non guns onle fist and skils not fancy weaponds anty Dino guns tanks and atehr stuff this be end of isle

[cyan flame]

Stego basically is as good vs smaller stuff/packs, if not better, than trike is, but unlike trike, can't fight larger things

[hushed flint]

Even tho it’s literally made for big stuff…

That’s the point of stegos kit rework

[lunar mirage]

no, deino is limited to 4 tons on land and 6 inn water

[cyan flame]

It probably will be good vs allos and albertos and stuff, probs not acro, acro seems like it can be a proper apex too. But its also... rotund and might be rather slow so.

[hushed flint]

But they aren’t apexes…

They’re still only mid tiers

[urban flax]

Ah I understood this one I think

no

[cyan flame]

Stego isnt an apex either, or well, it's like deino. Apex but designed vs midtiers

[red compass]

We shud made donos as real as posible dilo hunting night awsome. Raptor hunting teams t rex hunting inn pars to two crocos all.time.grow get biger fater girl corocs biger then males made nets.under Water to hide the young like under Water burrow be awsome to all Water dinos snif in Water blood see moment grab and drag any Dino to Water new skill hit whit tail to stun breake leg of fast dinos balance ready

[cyan flame]

Deino is an apex, but not designed to fight other large things, stego is the same it would seem

Hence, allo and alberto would be better matchups. A deino can grab them, a stego can fight them

[lunar mirage]

been red hp for like 30 minutes ? new bug ?

[red compass]

Isle arent onle fight i Play all time croco and dilo.i morę into find food made babys and survial

Eat and do tons babys my motto as dilo and dinosuco

And i like isle lot more if not Die all time🤣and getnmy sweet ass eaten

Ather Dino games for nonsence teleports or pay cash from all Dino games i pick.the isle all.time

[hushed flint]

But it’s not

[red compass]

I wish to isle never stop be beter and just Dino non aliens humend run guns and tanks

And to dinos be morę and morę real

I got Raptor fosile and ar bit Dino nerd

In isle i see how gamę get beter and its awsome

Wish my corco Dino be beter and not canibals Ask me canibals dinos shud get nerf as white skin to spot them morę easy for them crim😁

[urban flax]

That's already a thing

[icy lion]

Not for deinos

[urban flax]

Oh yeah
But cannibalism is a part of deino's base kit so it wouldn't make sense

[red compass]

But but to they got faster healing grow over time girl corocs to be biger then mans

🥰 so made all canibals white eating own kid get white skin all Ho hunting ar ar real dinos beter camo get lazy canibals Ho trick player and then kill eat shud be white to troll them be dino go survial eat hunt made babys

[urban flax]

Deino is encouraged to be a cannibal, why should it also be punished for it ?

[red compass]

Mostly corcos life in Rivers and they not canibals right

[urban flax]

Crocs absolutely are cannibals
And deino is absolutely a cannibal

[cyan flame]

How isnt it, when we currently see how the matchups go?

[red compass]

Its met mostly canibals ar the nun pray thing they ar agresive eat Tiny ones but canibals arent 100 %canibal

Yes, crocodiles are cannibals. Larger crocodiles in particular may prey on smaller crocodiles, especially when other prey is scarce or scarce. This is part of their diet, which includes a wide range of animals, including mammals, birds, fish, and other reptiles. Cannibalism is seen in Mexican crocodiles and saltwater crocodiles, for example.

Not all ar canibals and its gamę so be nice see Ho ar canibals and Ask me white skin be good way troll them metal gear wud go for IT doom to all Ho Ho easy way insted go and hunt food

Gamę show be like go hunt find frend made groups and survival

Map shud got morę like find prey find by sence like Wolf quest i Play get babys find mate find mate then babys survival snif find food be lazy gamę troll you.to be white skin shame on you lazy Dino 😍👍

[urban flax]

@finite agate Pachy already has that

[finite agate]

you sure?

[urban flax]

Yes
Pachy only takes 0.75x damage to the head

[finite agate]

thats still to much i think it should be 50%

[urban flax]

It's half of the multiplier for everything else

[finite agate]

what?

[urban flax]

Everything has a 1.5x multiplier
Pachy has a 0.75x multiplier
So 50% of the multiplier for other animals

[finite agate]

oh okay

[alpine oasis]

@lunar mirage BRING UR DEINO HERE https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346642903241592855/1388551889616109728/image0.png?ex=68616538&is=686013b8&hm=69e79e016b405b4aa9bb78fd8d6d70d68c53e79a10e4a1c6024c7f1582ff2b57&

[warped remnant]

Thought this only happens on unofficial

[nova loom]

@topaz mauve if your dino is biting without you pressing mouse1 button - is probably because you have eaten another raptor

[limpid bear]

the crabs r beautiful

[limpid bear]

thats what i was gonna say lmao

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message @solid pecan omni still has one of the fastest recovery times from stuns

[heady heart]

Where is this

[lunar mirage]

what server is that ? ive seen like 10 photos exactly like this

mudflats right ?

[alpine oasis]

not sure, found it randomly

[alpine oasis]

im sure this is southern beach

[junior nymph]

u are right

[alpine oasis]

yay

[fallen briar]

https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/kAiDC27mfd74O6W3l?invite=cr-MSxPME0sNzk5NDk3OTE
https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/kAklE3ZU1857y8iod?invite=cr-MSxQUm4sNzk5NDk3OTE
thats hit box its so broken

[halcyon thistle]

is cannibal mutation back????

[pliant elm]

Yes

[steady orchid]

legacy ahh hitbox

[elfin willow]

Gotta love legacy hitbox flashbacks 😂

[wooden agate]

apexes that it can not run from*

i really dont have issue with stego being destroyed by trike if stego can actually just walk away from trike to begin with

[wooden agate]

@unreal crane #general-feedback message mixpacking is not against the rules

[unreal crane]

so is ok for herbis to mix with carnivores?

[wooden agate]

on officials, yes

[cyan flame]

The devs do not want that to happen, but there's no ingame rules against it. They are working on ideas and mechanics to prevent it instead.

So it's okay, due to no rules, but it's not something the devs want, so there'll hopefully be a fix at some point

[wooden agate]

i mean even with the mechanics they've said if people want to do it, they're gonna do it

theyll just have a really bad time doing it lol

[cyan flame]

Well yes, but that'll have to be good enough

[unreal crane]

yeah my bad silly question from me, actually I always saw on animal planet cows and girrafes teaming up with lions and crocodiles to put down prey.
Yup I got your logic.

[urban flax]

I'm pretty sure you completely misunderstood the point

[pliant elm]

@river idol The AIs have already been fixed and are working almost correctly, with just a few bugs

[river idol]

When

[wooden agate]

i dont think you properly understood what i said

no one is saying it's realistic

i dont know how you got that from what we said

like genuinely no clue

"i like waffles"
"so u hate pancakes?"

?!!?!????

like no one is justifying the action itself lol. we were just telling you it's not against the rules and not reportable

#general-feedback message

despite my complaints with cerato, this change is actually pretty fine lol

yeah, cerato should not be stunned by carno when it's actively over a body lol

[vagrant phoenix]

What's yalls opinion on maias stamina drain? I don't know what to think about it. On one hand, I just 1v1 a fg Maia as a Cera and won (and I'm kinda feeling proud of myself, I was red half of the fight), on the other, Maia feels vulnerable after all its stamina is gone, by all means Maia is not defenceless but I've had a time where I kill 2 ceras as a Maia, 0 stam, then suddenly, a dibble comes and kills me.

Such a bruh moment though lol

[wooden agate]

well yeah stamina management is a big thing in this game, especially for something like maia

maia is very much an animal that has to decide its plan early on, because it doesn't have the stamina to fight back and run away usually

and with the running stam cost + speed, generally running away is your best bet to begin with

[vagrant phoenix]

That's what I was thinking, manage stamina, but that's impossible, once you get into a fight with especially ceras, your stamina is bound to drain fast, and you'd have to decide real early when you wanna run. And if it's too late to run, youre forced to use the rest of your stamina

[wooden agate]

yah

i fail to see the issue

[vagrant phoenix]

Ngl same, I wanted people opinion on it, there's probably a little spite in the question since I recently lost a Maia to a dibble after I killed 2 ceras but who knows

You can understand dying to other Herbivores and losing some hours is gonna get you disappointed or frustrated

[wooden agate]

a lot of people generally have/had issues with it in the past

maia was really odd for the playerbase because when it released, no other animal (other than out super tiny tiers) were meant to run first

so people viewed its stamina, attacks, etc from a PVP standpoint rather than a survival standpoint

i've always liked maia though cool little cow

[vagrant phoenix]

That's a good point

[cyan flame]

Well, being third partied sucks, but that could happen for any reason. You could have been traveling, and then get jumped before you could recover stam, or some such. You can't really help if something comes for you after a fight or escape.

[vagrant phoenix]

People, especially new players view the game as a PvP game instead of survival.

[vagrant phoenix]

True, but it's been happening more often, most of the time I'm fine, it's only a Cera after I mauled a Raptor pack, I can still defend myself, but when it's herbivores, that's just a breh moment

[wooden agate]

i cant blame them with the pvp mechanics consistently being added,

but i still think theres a stark difference in "PVP game" and "survival game that focuses around PVP" which is where a large disconnect comes in for some of the community

TRUE getting 3rd partied sucks

unless im like a herrera/deino in which case i will be eating anyone who comes too close

[untold sandal]

raptors are giga bad atm

[indigo gulch]

Not as bad as pachy

[vagrant phoenix]

Ik, but frustrating for Maia when the raptors are good...

[vagrant phoenix]

Very true

[indigo gulch]

The only reason I think raptors suck is simply because, you know, people camp walls or water

As a solo you can’t 1v1 most of the roster, but that’s fine tbh

[cyan flame]

Herrera is the third party xD Deino too often xD

[vagrant phoenix]

What about me whom choses to fight in fields as Maia for some reason, maybe I'm just bored and suicidal

[indigo gulch]

That should be winnable for the raptors tbh

[cyan flame]

Well yes, but it can unfortunately happen to most, it's not really maia exclusive. It sucks, yes, but well, not much to do but to try and keep it in mind. But it's better to survive the first encounter, than to die because too worried about the next one I guess.

[indigo gulch]

Trueee

[vagrant phoenix]

It was 5 fg raptors, I wiped them with yellow HP and 9 stam, bleed was also not too bad

[wooden agate]

woag

[indigo gulch]

Skill issue I guess

[vagrant phoenix]

True

[wooden agate]

MAN i remmeber when maia dropped and i was a sub fighting an omni

i was so bad but i managed to kill it after like 5 minutes

[indigo gulch]

I’ve killed maias in the forest near delta as a pack

[untold sandal]

Doing turns shifting from W+A to W+D and vice-versa makes u lose momentum and staggers visual "Mobility of omni is not working".
Pounce is giga bugged and u basically get punished with minimum 2 bites when u stun your self.
Omni has avrg speed like cera and slower then carno.

Actually omni has no speciality in terms of pure gameplay performance for the player

[indigo gulch]

Took a while, but it isn’t undoable

[limber hull]

Tf you mean “average speed like cera” omni is WAY faster than cera lol

[indigo gulch]

I was about to say

[limber hull]

Omni is closer in speed to carno than cera

[vagrant phoenix]

Maybe it's because In the initial attack I wasn't attacking at all and just running at the raptors, them trying to chase me and pounce resulted in some pinning eachother, new Maia strat against raptor lol

[indigo gulch]

I doubt it’s the same speed as CERA of all things

[untold sandal]

is basically the same

[indigo gulch]

They probably wasted their stam trying to keep up

[vagrant phoenix]

Exactly

[limber hull]

40.2 is not basically the same is 46.8 lol

[indigo gulch]

We always get 1 guy to chase and the rest follows with walking

[limber hull]

Omni is so much faster

[indigo gulch]

Imagine if you could say that when getting a speeding ticket

Would be awesome

[untold sandal]

i should have clip it today when i was getting 4 bites in a row on a straight line vs a cera

[limber hull]

Carno’s speed is 49.5 lol it’s genuinely closer to omni’s speed than cera is

[wooden agate]

40 and 46-47 is the same?

[untold sandal]

i don't care about numbers omni is bugged it lose momentum.

atm is unplayable either u meet super bad players or otherwise u can't express the gameplay of it and the avg speed u get is not 47

u need to consider the time of the whole run

[urban flax]

Actually everything has the "lose speed when turning" bug
So omni isn't at a disadvantage here

But you can work around that bug by turning with your cam

[untold sandal]

omni is only that.. that's the problem

[indigo gulch]

Only that what?

[untold sandal]

i've notice that but how u manage to face a carno without looking at it

[indigo gulch]

Trees. Lots of them

[vagrant phoenix]

It was psychological warfare for my fight, raptors initially saw me and I ran 4 calling, about 15s later I turned around, started chasing the raptors but i didn't hit a single attack, going around in circles after them resulted in them making multiple mistakes, such as pinning eachother, running Into my stomp Etc...

[urban flax]

Alt look

[indigo gulch]

[untold sandal]

and then how u make turns without using W+A or W+D while alt

[urban flax]

Release alt and turn with the camera

[indigo gulch]

I remember seeing a lone maia and stalking it for a good 5-10 minutes. It decided to fight in the open and lost insanely hard. BROTHER THE FOREST WAS RIGTT HT. THERE.

[vagrant phoenix]

Either I was decent with Maia and my strategy or the raptors sucked lol, or maybe I ruined their plans and they didn't have a plan B or something like that

[vagrant phoenix]

As a lone Raptor?

[indigo gulch]

No no

As a pack. I just saw the maia when looking for one

[vagrant phoenix]

Ah ok

[untold sandal]

idk.. feels like is rly hard to pull off and missing the possibility to use the keybinds useful for that reason i still belive it puts the omni is a very bad spot.. almost unplayable maybe if u are a vet u good

[indigo gulch]

Omni winning against anything bigger than itself alone would be quite the achievement

[vagrant phoenix]

But Maia after update is very good and powerful, Maia pre update felt like a happy meal at the cost of 5 bucks

[urban flax]

It puts everything in a bad spot, everything needs to turn, that's not an omni-exclusive thing

[vagrant phoenix]

I was questioning it lol "am I really that bad with Raptor and other be soloing a fg Maia"

[untold sandal]

but omni feels it more then other dinos.. kinda way more

[indigo gulch]

Lmao I am pretty decent at raptor, but that would be a lie. The other person would have to be VERY bad

[untold sandal]

is the most movment based dino how can all the others have the same malus?

[vagrant phoenix]

I don't main raptor so I wouldn't know haha, maybe if you included you had 2k hours at the game I would partially believe it

[indigo gulch]

Oh not even close to that amount. I just had good teachers

@desert arch AHEM here take your praise 😅

[wooden agate]

i like omni but i struggle at relying on other people so animals that do well solo (like dilo) are more my speed unfortunately

or herrera/diablo

peak

[vagrant phoenix]

You had teachers? I had to stumble in the dark not knowing X was for night vision on my first ever Dino, being Raptor.

[indigo gulch]

Tbf I play with the same group often so we rely more on each other than randoms

[vagrant phoenix]

Ngl same, feels the same with troodon too, all I'd need is another competent troodon and I'd be set. With Raptor the same as well, despite my lack of experience, I don't immediately die in fight like my packmates pouncing a trikes face for some reason

[indigo gulch]

Oh yeah. I mostly played deino on spiro, but it’s a bit less fun here so I started learning other dinos on gateway. Taught me a lot about when to use what, stamina management etc

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-gif-25346575

[vagrant phoenix]

I learned how to play quick thankfully, only started playing almost 3 months ago, the first few weeks was me dying in the most embarrassing ways ever that they make you go live under a rock for a year and talk to no one, it's a good thing I knew the game had potential...

[indigo gulch]

Potato man!

[indigo gulch]

Oooof yeah not having any form of tutorial sucks. I get it’s the beta, but at least a quick few popups for a few things that wont change much would be helpful

Glad you’re enjoying it enough to stick around tho 👍🏻

[vagrant phoenix]

I mean after my 1st day my friend offered to show me the ropes the next day as teno so I enjoyed that lol

[vagrant phoenix]

I've only got 380 hours, Im feeling proud of myself about having a lot of knowledge in the game by hours 180, having mastered Carno and dibble, decent at Cera and Dilo, average at Omni and troodon, really good with Herra and trash at Deino lol, haven't tried Stego or trike yet...

At least I grew my first Deino on my first try as a 2nd gen

Until 2 Deinos came along

[indigo gulch]

Eeey pretty nice

Less nice but relatable 😦

[vagrant phoenix]

Deino has a lot of hate lol

[indigo gulch]

As a deino main, seeing 2 deinos swimming towards you is a air alarm going off in my head

[vagrant phoenix]

For me I didn't even see a 2nd Deino, 1 came up to me, grouped with me then another Deino came and both started mauling Me, I didn't know what to do

Was sad and my evening was definitely ruined, I vowed to stay away from Deino, was the most boring growth I've ever had, not seeing elite fish and literally surviving off scraps and smaller Deinos

[indigo gulch]

Rip. That sucks 😦

[frozen creek]

getting stuck in voids with a 3 hour deino and not being able to get out gonna lose this deino due to map bs

[supple sierra]

I want to tell the game devs Thank You for hypsi update! I have had so much fun with it. Climbing to the tops of the mountains and watching different dinos interact. I even acted as if I was the news lol...Hypsi News/photographer lol! The raptor is my fave by hypsi has now moved to 2nd place. Beipi Troodon and deino my next three. But definitely love the climbing hypsi. Good for when you want to explore and site see instead of murder n mayhem lol

I know y'all don't get thanks often but for me at least the hypsi climb made the game fun again. By the time I get through I'll know every bit of this map! Hate staying at hot spots so hypsi a nice change in game play. Plus you can spit at Herreras and Pteras n knock them out of trees lol. Added bonus 😛

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

so a) stego being an apex and b) the powerswing added to deal with apexes it can not escape from means nothing? @copper fjord

trike, sure. stego still has ways of getting away from that (shift + w)

[limber hull]

If a stego were hypothetically placed in an ecosystem with Rex, it’d be forced to adapt to survive, that’s the real world. In-game, those adaptations take the form of buffs to retain viability amongst a growing ecosystem

I don’t understand the “welcome to the real world” argument if we’re leaving out the single most important factor in any ecosystem

Any animal that outclassed by another gets hunted to extinction

[warped remnant]

@boreal vessel they dont want stego to be able to kill trike, they want it to not do 6k dmg in one attack. a trike could beat a stego if he only dealt like 500 dmg simply bc trike can constantly stun and knock over stego. it should obviously have way more than 500 but the point is it doesnt need 6k to beat stego

[normal shuttle]

Also realism is a terrible argument when not a single creature in this game is realistic and was never meant to be

It’s all in service of gameplay, and stego will/SHOULD at the very least have tools to deal with things like rex, trike, giga, shant and acro

[valid zephyr]

lol trying to pet the dino. Would be funny

(You will not survive)

Would be like the Yellowstone tourists trying to pet the wild bison

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message how would this work

not because im against it but im intriuged

dig up gastroliths like how galli can forage for crabs/compies? or moreso able to get more effecitve gastroliths from the already dedicated gastrolith spots?

[quartz meteor]

@boreal vessel “””Welcome to the world of " Bigger Dinosaurs Exist here."

Just like in Legacy, the Apex, the big boys, they rule the map and the smaller dinosaurs learn how to survive and fit in with them. Not the other way around.

I see your point and frustration but if they "nerf" the Trike that is literally against the point of having an Apex Predator. The Stego is in no shape or form designed to 1v1 or come close to combatting these Apex Predators. That weigh over 3 tons more than them...

Consider this, The Stegos worst nightmare during its life In Real Life was most likely a pack of Allosaurus... Or some other "Mid tier Carnivore." As we would have it categorized on The Isle.

There are a few Dinos the stego can 1 shot if hit properly and unfortunately the Stego isnt invincible or the Apex of the Game.

A trike weighs 3500KG more than a Stego... A stego weighs 4700kg more than a Carno/Cera and they deal tremendous damage to them. Its just the way it is. Apexes are coming into the game.”””

I agree completely. HOWEVER! where was this 3 ton logic when dibbles were/are killing stegos who are in fact, 3 tons heavier.

[arctic panther]

Can you clarify? Why need to dig them up when you can forage them?

[severe flicker]

what's the difference between these two to make trike do less damage or not close to at least 200 dps, but at the same weight? They both do the same thing.... 1. has a head as a shield and 2. Can go into stance

[icy lion]

Because one of them is a fully-formed adult and the other is not

[rain hedge]

Ya, but they are the same weight, size and you would think they would do the same..

[limber hull]

They’re different animals tho

[pliant elm]

Trike is an apex is a must be a reward as well as a challenge to grow one, even though he is currently gaining weight extremely quickly

Giving the Trike all that damage and weight at such a young age makes it very easy to grow considering the buffs it received

[rain hedge]

It probably takes the same time to get to 3 tons as Diablo to get 3 tons? 8 hours for trike and like 2-3 for Diablo

[pliant elm]

Trike gains 3t in about 15% growth

[rain hedge]

Ya but grows slower

[pliant elm]

Fortunately. Don't expect to grow a Trike like you would grow a dibble

[wooden agate]

yeah

trike is a large diablo

there are some animals that are just big versions of others

if alberto was added first, people would say rex is an alberto clone lol

i agree that it kinda sucks having similar kits for animals but i think the size and what youll actually be doing as those animals is different enough to warrent it

[rain hedge]

Well more like giga but Alberto doesn’t have the bite force as a Rex

[wooden agate]

yarg

[rain hedge]

But trike and Diablo at the same weight should be at least close to 200 dps