general-feedback-discussion

[cosmic vortex]

i mean all ill say is that i want lipped rex and that the overbite on current rex is a lil crazy

[normal shuttle]

steg vs rex and rex lips

rex rex rex rex rex rex and more rex

[cosmic vortex]

a lipped variation would be very nice

[short plank]

the head size diff is to much for my brain to process a four hit kill

lol

[normal shuttle]

why not. It is perfectly acceptable for the big damage glass cannon apex to do a lot of damage

[short plank]

but thats my point it shouldn't be a glass cannon

[normal shuttle]

and all to a clueless big apex carni who got hit in the head FOUR times

[short plank]

thats fair

[normal shuttle]

okay, why not

[cosmic vortex]

is someone confused on why TYRANNOSAURUS REX does alot of damage?

[normal shuttle]

omni. It should survive a rex bite

[short plank]

no im confused on how a stego should four headshot a rex to death

[cosmic vortex]

no?

why would omni's lil self survive a bite from a rex

[wooden agate]

well you have 2 4 foot long spikes going into your head 4 times

[short plank]

he is ragebaiting

[normal shuttle]

yes, raptors should be super strong and one should pin a 7 ton rex

[cosmic vortex]

four shot? idk about that

[normal shuttle]

omni is useless and super weak so it needs to be buffed in a way that skilled omnis can pounce rexes

[cosmic vortex]

oh it is ragebait ig

[short plank]

i suppose i just need to see an image side by side so i can get a reference of the spikes compared to a rex

[wooden agate]

you also completely control if that fight happens, and have sparring to allow you to manuvere around the stego and bait power swings easier

[normal shuttle]

math

steg powerswing is 1700 and headshot has x1.5

[wooden agate]

so its a little bit of a mix between "well what do you think happens" and game balance

[cosmic vortex]

oh we're saying that it DOES 4 shot

[normal shuttle]

yes

[cosmic vortex]

would steg's powerswing even reach rex's head?

[normal shuttle]

yes, you can aim it vertically

[short plank]

thats what i am saying

[cosmic vortex]

i dont use stego so idk how high it reaches

i mean i think rex can probably kill stego in the time it takes for stego to get four perfect head shots

[normal shuttle]

you literally can aim the power swing so that it can reach a little above your plates in terms of height

[cosmic vortex]

so it doesnt really matter

[wooden agate]

running powerswing also exists (but is kinda buggy and clunk in my experience)

[short plank]

also also doesn't weight apply ti damge so if stego is smaller than rex by 3.3 tons as of rn it should have damge drop off?

[wooden agate]

no that was legacy

[cosmic vortex]

isnt weight just the hp stat?

[short plank]

huh i thought they kept that

[normal shuttle]

rex needs 4 headshot to kill steg, and steg needs 4 headshots to kill rex

Also steg power swing could easily be quicker than an apex bite animation

[short plank]

thats odd

[normal shuttle]

so trading is likely not a good idea unless rex just cc's the stego all the time

[wooden agate]

actually thats funny you bring that up because stego in legacy did the exact same damage as rex but due to the weight things, it did noticablely less. it also had far less health

[short plank]

but the head size of stego should allow rex to oneshot head shot

[cosmic vortex]

rex needs four head shots to kill a stego?

thats crazy

[normal shuttle]

no because balance

[normal shuttle]

likely cuz its bite is around 850 from what I've heard

[short plank]

i don't like balance

[normal shuttle]

bad take

[cosmic vortex]

stego is 6 tons right?

[short plank]

the game is a survival game not a combat game that need s balance

[normal shuttle]

yes

[normal shuttle]

oh wait, not bait?

[short plank]

english?

[cosmic vortex]

isnt it a 5 shot then?

[short plank]

sorry i just don't understand your comment ava

[cosmic vortex]

850 x 1.5 x 4 = 5100

[normal shuttle]

is that bait?

[short plank]

no its a survival game

[normal shuttle]

stego takes double damage to the head

[short plank]

not a pvp

[cosmic vortex]

oh

[short plank]

i know its on the nose but still

a stego should get obliterated by a rex when you see the two again because the stegos head is so small

[cosmic vortex]

stego should get obliterated if ambushed

[short plank]

one bite and bam gone

[normal shuttle]

and it's a game where everything needs a fair chance at survival, since at the end of the day the devs are spending time and money into every playable for us to play, and more importantly, we need to invest so much time into a lot of these playables

[cosmic vortex]

maybe heavy fracture should disable powerswing?

[normal shuttle]

there's never going to be an intended matchup where you cannot flee nor fight

stego apparently can't flee, so fighting it is

[cosmic vortex]

tbf, you could just stay out of forests as a stego

[short plank]

i suppose but still i just think a stego should not survive a fight with rex let alone win

[cosmic vortex]

but stego should probably get a trot buff so that it's trot is faster than rex's

[short plank]

the game is about survival and if a stego wants to survive its best option is to leave the area if a rex is there

IMO

[normal shuttle]

well

keep coping, stego gang

[short plank]

are telling me to cope or are you telling the stego gang to cope

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-4106619223750686230

[normal shuttle]

You

Stego will thrive with rex, giga, spino, acro, humans, mutants, allos, canni stegos, trikes, shants and gravity

[short plank]

i see you are ragebaiting

[normal shuttle]

No I’m not

That message is genuine

Stego will thrive

As will every other playable

[short plank]

it sounds like you are sorry if i am sounding annoying

[normal shuttle]

Not really, no

[short plank]

ok cool

btw i agree it should thrive, but it shouldn't fight apexes if you get what i mean

i hope you do atleast

[normal shuttle]

I just think that, you know, in a game where you gotta work for hours to get your dinosaur to adult and the devs have spent so much time working on every playable, everyone should have a fair chance and not die to bs regardless of realism

[brazen relic]

Has it ever been officially concerned why you can't clear your dinosaur form a server and created a new one, without having to feed yourself to someone or jump haha

[short plank]

fair fair

i can't argue

i just have a specific mindset

[indigo gulch]

it's not fighting apexes, it's trying to survive apexes

[short plank]

fair

[indigo gulch]

if a stego and rex see each other in an open field, it should not be instantly doomed

[dawn hound]

Man the whole general feedback channel is just filled with rex needing lips 😭

[indigo gulch]

yeah because most players want that x)

[dawn hound]

me too but

there is literally no other suggestion that that 😭

[compact sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/go-big-red-gif-6215135281665600337

[dawn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-face-confused-look-im-confused-im-so-confused-gif-16116793640057765581

im scared now

https://tenor.com/view/rex-dinosaur-confused-walking-around-gif-1646158301314489800

legit redesign rex into this fr

[compact sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/t-rex-shaking-back-and-forth-gif-9538785665208084305

[compact sequoia]

Some guy posted a video which had deinosucus with lips.....it looked goofy

[cosmic vortex]

whar

why would deinosuchus have lips

[woeful latch]

bro the lips feedbacks are EVERYWHERE

[limber hull]

terrible argument. its a game that needs a balance because otherwise animals go extinct. Ecosystems have balance

stegosaurus should be able to consistently not die to rex

given that stego ain't faster than a rex, it needs anything else

[short plank]

yes but what i mean is smaller animals don't fight larger ones is my point obviously nature is balanced but only when the animals aren't biting off more than they can chew if you know what i mean

[limber hull]

yea, except in the case of stego, that's all it can do

so it better be able to do it

[short plank]

how do we know rex is gonna be faster

exactly

we don't know

[urban flax]

So far it seems to be much faster

[short plank]

key word.... seems

[urban flax]

If rex is slower than stego, then stego won't need to be able to fight back
But it won't

[short plank]

anything can seem fast but actually be slow have you seen that video of a girl running 18mph on a treadmill and a guy doing the same thing, visually it looks much different

rex might be fast it might be slow but is fast for its size we don't know

[urban flax]

36 km/h murder sprint

[short plank]

ok thats fair but what about normal sprint?>

[urban flax]

Unless it was 38

[limber hull]

it doesnt matter really

[short plank]

it kinda does

[limber hull]

the murder sprint alone invalidates

[short plank]

how long does murder sprint last exactly

[boreal vessel]

WHERE'S THE AI FOR THE DEINOS IN HORDETESTING

[urban flax]

Until rex goes out of stam

[short plank]

is this fact?

and how fast does the stam drain during murder sprint

[urban flax]

Yes, unless they changed it since last stream

[short plank]

i would assume decently fast

[urban flax]

Faster than with normal sprint

[boreal vessel]

a STEGO will DEFINITELY be able to kill a rex... depending on the size of that stego or the rex...

[urban flax]

On a subadult rex it was shown lasting for 15 seconds
And rex still had plenty of stam left after that

But it was also 45 km/h

[short plank]

on a sub-adult

[boreal vessel]

but yo why is AI broke for Deinos in HT??

[short plank]

chill we are having a calm debate

also i don't know

[urban flax]

All I'm saying is, stego will need to either beat up a rex or run away from one
And running a way seems to be pretty much out of question with all the information we have

[short plank]

but you are using sub stats?

[urban flax]

36 km/h is adult stats

[indigo gulch]

I’d be worried for the rest of the roster if it could

[short plank]

i meant for stam drain

it could be faster once fg

[urban flax]

Hopefully it is, doesn't eliminate the issue

Faster for a short time still means it's faster

[short plank]

welll it does if the stego is running away already and the rex loses its stam

cus then it csn't run at all let alone catch up

[urban flax]

So should stego be running constantly in case a rex comes around ?

[short plank]

no i meant if it saw rex before it attacked it would be able to begin running

[urban flax]

Rex catches up

[short plank]

gets a bite or two in and then loses its stam and the stego escapes imjured but alive

[urban flax]

And also with how much stam stego needs to fight, it better have a perfect escape plan, because once it begins to run away it can't decide to fight anymore

[urban flax]

Once it got a bite or two it doesn't need to keep up with the murder sprint, it only needs to move roughly as fast as the stego

Which is really not that fast

[short plank]

but it has no stam to keep up with

[urban flax]

Alright time for math

How fast is stego already ? 26 km/h ?

[short plank]

yeah smth like that

[urban flax]

I think I've seen someone say rex can keep up its murder sprint for 15 seconds

I've also hard it 30 seconds, but let's go with the lowest estimate

[short plank]

also lets keep this civil please for anyone who is reading our debate don't join and have a go at either of us

[short plank]

yep

[urban flax]

So stego can cover 108 meters in the hypothetical 15 seconds that rex murder sprint lasts.

At 36 km/h, rex can cover 150 meters in that same amount of time.

Which means stego needs a 42 meters headstart if it doesn't want to be caught by rex

[short plank]

that sounds decently reasonable but also an issue if too close

[urban flax]

If that duration is bumped to 30 seconds, then that's 216m for stego, and 300 meters for rex

Which means stego would need a 84m headstart

[short plank]

thats an issue

that would be too unfair i agree

the first estimate though i think is kinda alr

[urban flax]

Which is also assuming rex cannot keep up with "regular" sprint

[short plank]

ofc

[urban flax]

Honestly, with how lines of sight are in this game, 42 is a lot to ask

Because stego needs to not SEE the rex from that distance, but START RUNNING at that distance

[short plank]

and we also have to take into account that rex is BIG BOYAH and should hopefully be easiesr to spot

my spelling today man

[urban flax]

If it is so much as facing the wrong direction upon seeing the rex, it can easily lose 2-3 seconds of headstart

[short plank]

i keep misclicking

[short plank]

yeah

also i find it funny that a guy with a rex pfp is trying to nerf rex lol

yes i am talking abt myself

incase someone was too dumb dumb too understand

[ocean coral]

@heavy heart I don’t get it but I’m upvoting

[limpid bear]

same fr he put hiss heart and soul into that

he big brain

[north latch]

too much for my brain

[limber hull]

its a lot of text but ultimately i dont think the idea is all that

[north latch]

agreed

i’d rather just let my dinosaur get old once

rather than accumulate its age over time

[limber hull]

its also just needlessly complex lol

[north latch]

sounds less interesting imo

[north latch]

yeah

[limber hull]

it also heavily punishes people who are new to the game by locking them out of these supergrown dinos until they've played a ton to reach it

and frankly, i'm not sure who would prefer a slightly bigger dino to an elder, something that demonstrates insane power with a unique model, design and possibly other elements

who knows, an elder rex's roar could be even more powerful

[limpid bear]

i just want my dino to have a nice life have kids, help raise grandkids and then peacefully die of old age

[north latch]

same

[junior nymph]

@gusty flax

[wooden agate]

one looks mildly like t rex the other looks like phil from modern family

[junior nymph]

both look cursed

atleast dondi said they wont be adding lips

so people shouldnt go spamming it

[gusty flax]

still think left looks better

[gusty flax]

actual comparison lol

still think left looks better

@icy lion im legit suggesting the rex lips thing

[icy lion]

Then you can make an actual suggestion instead of a joke

[gusty flax]

u can interupt what im suggesting throught the joke lol

[woeful latch]

yeah this comparison is better

[mellow maple]

If I could delete the old rex image I would

[junior nymph]

no

its more silly 😛

[mellow maple]

It spread an unfair comparison

[cosmic thorn]

the speed mutations should be balanced by reducing the speed during the night if you have the day mutation, and vice versa

[normal shuttle]

I can’t help seeing meme images whenever there’s a dinosaur closeup image

[thick summit]

the "rex needs lip" spam is crazy

I hope they give everything exposed teeth now

[cosmic thorn]

I think the overbite gives character. It reminds me of the Jurassic Park Rex. Looks cool.

[mellow maple]

On it

[limber hull]

an even better balance is to just not have them increase speed lol

[cosmic thorn]

Or increase trot speed or something. Would be useful still.

[limber hull]

Trot speed is... better. Not good, but better. I personally think all kinds of speed mutations can introduce slippery slopes

[stable crow]

Idk man, jurassic park Rex had way less of an overbite:

[limber hull]

that image shows off one of the biggest possible overbites you could've shown lol

[stable crow]

Compared to the ingame one :c

I feel like the lower jaw has a better size so it looks like it fits together better idk

[mellow maple]

The teeth are smaller

[stable crow]

Yea but idc about the teeth, just the lower jaw size, i like the exposed teeth as well

[mellow maple]

Isle rex has big ass teeth. Almost committing to tooth slippage

[stable crow]

Yeee

[mellow maple]

The overbite is 100% to accommodate for the exposed teeth. It's not an accident

Isle rex head is marginally bigger than sue

[covert tiger]

@quartz meteor bro both these things have already been done in the most recent patch.
Carno got buffs and it's growth time matches cera.
Trikes growth time literally got doubled

[stable crow]

Isnt an overbite the fact that the upper jaw ends way after the lower jaw does by the way? I feel like the JP rex pic doesn't have that bad of an overbite

[queen ember]

@gilded drift because officials are running 20 servers instead of like 1-2

Ontop of HT servers

[junior nymph]

yeah

[gilded drift]

optimize the game to reach 300

[mellow maple]

A few reasons. There is a small gap I can show. It exists but only a bit

And jp rex had thinner blade like teeth

[queen ember]

If only it were that simple

[mellow maple]

Isle rex opted for the thicker ones

[gilded drift]

simple, just have a goal for 300 and reach it eventually

[mellow maple]

Ventral view

He might just have fat lips

[stable crow]

Yeah true

[karmic anchor]

Considering game is not trying to be 100% paleorealistic, bit of rule-of-cool isnt that big of an issue no

[mellow maple]

I'm not arguing for or against a style design. This is just observation atm

I think it's interesting going into model anatomy like this

Isle rex does a vast majority of the anatomy correctly I should add

[stable crow]

Also true, i quite like it overal!! Just think the lower jaw is a bit too small for the entire "look"

[mellow maple]

If I had to give it a grade. It'd be a high c or a low b

It's pretty decent

[karmic anchor]

I was generally very pleasantly surprised by the animal designs

[mellow maple]

I give isle spino and omniraptor a hard time but anatomically they're far better than most things in Jurassic or slop with dinosaurs. Those two are by far the most stylized but are done by an artist who knows dinosaur anatomy

[stable crow]

Im excited to see what the release Evrima spino will look like :)

[cold crater]

@spare lark Regarding you post in #general-feedback .... I've read or heard that they're not doing anything else with the PT after the next update

[karmic anchor]

Bro rex with lips looks like he knows what your search history looks. There is something in me that tells me bro is up to no good. Cant put my finger on it

[stable crow]

Rex with lips will stand outside your window every night staring into your soul

[karmic anchor]

Its like street crackhead vs scheming supervillain

[stable crow]

that's so accurate

[mellow maple]

isn't the left one torvo?

wait no nvm it definitely a tyrannosaur

[quartz meteor]

The problem with Rex is simply that his face is to long,

[quartz meteor]

Did it?

But are we talking growth time in general? I’m talking about time it takes to get to sub adult. Last I checked, trike was sub adult at around 35% where stego was around 53%

[covert tiger]

yes but that doesnt really matter cause it takes more time for trike to reach 35% than stego to reach 53%

its true, trike's growth curve is heavily accelerated in the first third of its life

[quartz meteor]

Mmmm I’ll have to check trike out again then. Last time I played it, it got to SA extremely fast

And was murking any and all stegos

[raven sky]

@lusty seal It's the exact same model. Agree that the head should be lower though

[fast terrace]

i dont see any reason to change rex's design
its been the same since 2016 and its not even released yet which means that everything isnt final

[hushed flint]

Geeked vs locked in

[gloomy reef]

where show the message

[icy lion]

#isle-discussion message

[dawn hound]

crocodiles with lips 😭?

[compact sequoia]

it had every dino in the game with lips.... 👄 demand is getting out of hand

[lusty seal]

Ahh

[gloomy reef]

he said neither

thats not saying yes or no

[edgy flax]

why the hell r there like 50 "give rex lips" feedbacks yall r annoying

[thorn folio]

@compact sequoia they wont up the player count on the official servers because they tried 140 players once and the performance was terrible. it's also kinda weird because some community servers have almost 300 players and work fine

[mellow maple]

I started it 🖐️

[lapis timber]

If only they focused on core issues like this..

[shy mauve]

We appreciate this fr

It’s not even annoying the Rex needs SO much work I mean jeez bro. It looked good in streams but looking at it now. It needs to be reworked in terms of the adult model. Everything else looks fine

[mighty coral]

There are 50 so there's a small chance they are heard

[boreal vessel]

Evrima / Legacy.

[mighty coral]

Can't even see bro's face on Legacy's image💔

[thick summit]

Evrima rex is the definition of bulky

[boreal vessel]

legacy

Yeah i agree, legacy the Rex weighs 5.4 Tons, Im pretty sure. Evrima it'll weigh 9.3T. So quite the difference!

[latent olive]

those are individual community servers though

only one or two of them at a time

the amount of money it would drain having 15 to 30 servers running all at once that are beefy enough to handle anywhere near 300 players would be probably in the tens of thousands of dollars every month

[icy lion]

@acoustic pebble Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers

[pliant elm]

@rugged plaza Any "buff" made to Cerato need to come with 3 other nerfs xd

[rugged plaza]

?

[fast terrace]

Dawg I can't check feedback anymore without seeing lips

[woeful latch]

lmao

[manic yew]

As cool as it would be as an option, at this point I'm pretty certain lips ain't happening. Maybe as a mod later on but definitely not for the official game.

[dry falcon]

sux

[pliant elm]

I'm saying that for Cerato to receive any buff it will also need to be nerfed, as it is currently poorly balanced.

[woeful latch]

it already got permanent 99% bleed resistance buff on HT

[icy lion]

@covert tiger They've already said they won't

[covert tiger]

Yes I know, that's what I have been telling people.

[pliant elm]

Haven't the devs fixed it yet? Lol

Cerato immune to Allo 🔥🔥

[woeful latch]

idk lol, i’m
not sure if that was a bug

[pliant elm]

There's no way this isn't a bug, The devs do a lot of unnecessary and bad things in the game but this is too much xd

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message just stop with that lmao, if you write a feedback about how you don’t like people posting a feedback on rex lips, then don’t write a feedback with the same theme lmao

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message id say cera should “claim” the body to get the buff, that would be fair.

speed up the manual vomit animation, make it so if it vomits on the body it will get 50% resistance no matter what it is, it could be even juvie dryo

make its charge sound louder and deeper when it’s buffed

we will fix the issue with cera getting permanent resistance in the hotspots, also make cera somewhat stronger where it should be, a body bully

[rugged plaza]

Cerato body buff has always felt like a path of titans-like ability to me

It’s possible to make cerato good at defending its position, which it is. This inherently makes it good at defending a body, defending a nest, whatever it is.

[woeful latch]

my only real issue with body buff is there’s no way to tell if cera is buffed other than stop and smell for stuff which makes it magic

i like when game shows and explains to me the reason why it’s buffed, if it’s angry the show how angry it is with changed roars and charge bite sounds

or do anything else

[barren crater]

Honestly there should be a grace period imo. Like at least a minute where it isn't immediately stronger Then it should have to actually interact with the body in some way

[rugged plaza]

There’s a lot of mechanics in the isle that are literal ghosts. You have no idea they are there unless you dig through patch notes or so,etching, which is very unreasonable. I know things like damage numbers aren’t very isle-like but small status effect symbols and alike are not ruining anyone’s immersion.

Ceratosaurus would be a complete and viable creature if all it had was agility, charge bite, and scavenging. Basically everything else is a heaping pile of cherries and aren’t needed, prove me wrong.

[calm obsidian]

Exactly, I feel that the current body buff is just a freebie. I’ve seen ceratos turn on their group members, gain the body buff that way, and continue the fight. Interacting directly with the body in some way would require them to at least find a lull in the fight instead of instantly getting a buff

[barren crater]

It's hilariously good mechanic and all the cerato has to do is move towards a body. Even pre mutations. Issue is that it's even better with gastro.

"Oh my buddy died? Thank you for the bacteria!!" < pre mutations

[calm obsidian]

I totally don’t want body buff to go away. It’s a cool mechanic and makes it so the cerato is suited to the scavenger lifestyle. It’s just a little over the top at the moment

[barren crater]

Agreed. I like the personality it adds. I just think a lot of ceratos mechanics are overdone

[calm obsidian]

The insta-vomit falls into that category too

[limber hull]

i still think the idea of adding CC resistance to charge bite at the cost of a 10-20% movement speed decrease while charging the bite would do wonders for a more scavenger, defensive gameplay

[rugged plaza]

@normal finch beipi already does very high damage and bleed for its size.. I’m not seeing the point. He isn’t meant to be a fighter really either, more of a fun little penguin.

[normal finch]

Well, the claw damage is barely higher than the bite damage, and theres esentially no reason to use the bite over a claw attack, but thats a whole different issue. I'm not at all saying it should be able to go out and fight stuff, but it should be able to defend itself from small enough targets if it's caught out on land looking for food. Mono's concept art even shows a beipi defending itself against them.

This wouldn't make it so that beipi can just demolish something like a raptor, but it makes facing a Beipi (with 6 very large and deadly claws btw) head-on a risky approach and actually viable to take care of itself

[rugged plaza]

Beipi alt attack does 3x damage

[normal finch]

Yeah, over an extended period of time, and if you're lucky enough to even land it. Have you seen how slow it is

[normal finch]

A raptor can just facetank 2 bites or pin you and you're dead immediately. That's not enough time to even get a full alt attack off

[rugged plaza]

But while pinned beipi does damage to pouncers similar to how other pouncers do, it’s quite a bit of damage aswell

[normal finch]

It's not bad, for sure. But raptor still kills it in 2 or 3 ticks of damage, it's not nearly enough to stop it.

[frank tapir]

omni should be able to kill beipi relatively easily if it catches it

[woeful latch]

i’ll be honest beipi is lowkey OP, like hella crazy op

it’s just it has nothing to fight with for people to realize how strong it is

one alt attack leaves herrera with red health, not to mention absolutely UNHINGED bleed

beipi bleed is ridiculous

if we had proper tiny tiers people would CRY asking for beipi nerf

[limber hull]

beipi is crazy good

[rugged plaza]

Full grown Omni has nothing to worry about with beipi and it shouldn’t, a beipi can ward off things a bit bigger than himself but you can’t forget he always has an escape ticket into the water as well

[limpid bear]

fully grown omni should be scared of the deinos if they harm the beipi

[woeful latch]

real

[junior nymph]

#general-feedback message& why are people still on this? Dondi confirmed they aint adding lipped rex

[limber hull]

And Kissen

[junior nymph]

that works

people so badly want lipped rex you wont even be seeing his head 😐

[manic yew]

Yeah it ain't happening. Would be a cool mod later down the line but and I do love how it looks but it's been confirmed to not be happening.

[junior nymph]

I dont really care honestly like I said you wont be seeing his head but I do see where people are coming from

[manic yew]

Something more reasonable that could be done for rex tho is more colors

[frank tapir]

wdym you won't be seeing his head?

[junior nymph]

as someone who is playing a rex you will see his but unless you are taking a ss

[manic yew]

Nothing crazy or super bright, but like, some more greens reds and yellows. Kinda like what deino, where it's got a pretty wide selection of colors but they're all quite reasonable for an ambush predator.

[junior nymph]

also why did no one care when it was getting shown off we knew it would look like this

[manic yew]

Trike and maia probably need some more color options too tbh

[junior nymph]

yeah

[frank tapir]

I see the head of what I'm playing relatively often, and it's silly to pretend the appearance of the model should only be relevant if you're playing as that thing

@wild portal cerato's running is pretty loud

[wild portal]

Respectfully, I disagree.

[frank tapir]

it's not much quieter than carno's

I struggle to tell which is which sometimes

[unique apex]

Sound should have some post to do with weight

[woeful latch]

its loud as hell...

i agree with the stego part tho, it should be louder

[woven bane]

islecord members have officially lost it

we got lipped deino requests in general feedbacks now

[acoustic spruce]

Like a true deva

[frank tapir]

I maybe want to make feedback about rex's teeth and I just have to pray that people have chilled out in a couple days once I've had a chance to look at the model in game again

[acoustic pebble]

ye but still alot are using ESP aimbot speedhacks steam id changers its just hard to report them and it should be to prevent hackers from hacking instead of picking the obvious ones out

[woeful latch]

wait for my lipped teno

[woven bane]

teno has no overbite iirc

[acoustic spruce]

And wait for my lipped trike

[frank tapir]

ew

[mystic aurora]

immagine downvoting hitbox fixes abel

u gotta love broken games

[acoustic spruce]

I didn’t like the way you worded your message sry

[frank tapir]

I said no because of the comment about the devs

[mystic aurora]

thats not the point

[acoustic spruce]

Same

[frank tapir]

then don't include it

[mystic aurora]

so u love devs that dont fix problems and take 10 years

[acoustic spruce]

Yea but it overshadowed your point

[mystic aurora]

its combination of the truth

[frank tapir]

I think it's pointless and rude to insult them

[mystic aurora]

i gave them 12 months to fix it and the insult is 100% legit

[woven bane]

i gave them?

[mystic aurora]

i coped with that Shi t for a year

[acoustic spruce]

I think it’s a skill issue tbh

[mystic aurora]

iam prob from the gen thats just says how it is and not suggercoating all

[limber hull]

fun fact, being a karen doesn't earn you any favours

[mystic aurora]

y a daiblo that thits u 5 meter from ur body is a skill isseu

[frank tapir]

omni's hitbox is a bit big for pounce

[frank tapir]

you must be old

[mystic aurora]

stand next to a omni let him use pounce u will get pinned

diablo the same carno etc

[limber hull]

you're either 30 or 13 there's no in between with that statement

[frank tapir]

or 80

[mystic aurora]

iam in my 30s yes

[acoustic spruce]

Ion sure the devs will work on the hit mixes when they’re not busy with the new dinos

[mystic aurora]

spider is prob 12 since he offended

[limber hull]

not really acting your age, are ya buddy

[frank tapir]

where did I get offended

[limber hull]

idk if you know what "offended" looks like

[mystic aurora]

its my opinion and its a fact the dont fix it for over a year so idk why u defend these people

u married to the devs ?

[woven bane]

bro what

[mystic aurora]

30+ year of gaming i never seen so manny shi T bugs and broken stuff so

the even block the word s hit couse the gen x wil cry els lul

[woven bane]

feels like you’re part of that gen x

[acoustic spruce]

“I’ve noticed that the hit box on some of the dinos are a little too big and it impacts combat gameplay. Please fix or rework the hit box so that your Dino doesn’t get knocked over by getting hit on the tail.” -easy I would upvote

[mystic aurora]

na iam a 80s kid we say what we think and dont care for woke garbage and hurting people

[limber hull]

you'd think in 30 years of life you'd learn to write a comprehendible sentence LMAO

you not knowing jackall about game development yet demanding things that just come down to latency and an early access game dev is laughable btw

[frank tapir]

"woke"

again

[limber hull]

what is with this woke stuff lmao

this is the second time the word "woke" was used in reference to isle feedback what is happening

[acoustic spruce]

It’s about being an effective communicator to get what you want

[limber hull]

i still don't think you know what the word "woke" means

[mystic aurora]

early access for 10 years lul

dude ur indoctrinated fr

[limber hull]

i'm having fun with a game, god damn me

[acoustic spruce]

Recoded half way through

Technacly less that 5 years

[limber hull]

EVRIMA has been in development for around 3-4 years

[latent olive]

the wokening of the isle has RUINED tail hits

[limber hull]

and its already bigger than legacy by a significant margin

[mystic aurora]

how long is raptor carno out lul still no fix on hitboxes

[limber hull]

the they/thems have ruined the isle hitboxes 😔

[woven bane]

its mostly latency, especially on carno

[latent olive]

decrease everything's movement speed universally and youll see a big difference in latency issues

[woven bane]

eh i don’t think so

[latent olive]

itll also slow down the game so people dont have the urge to get to one location immediately and instantly

[desert arch]

If thats ever to happen trot speeds need a buff

[mystic aurora]

if u stand still next to raptor or in front of diablo noting to do with movement

[limber hull]

nah hes right. the game had a universal speed nerf in the past and it significantly helped with these issues

[latent olive]

thank you, pavewool

[modest dock]

Wokism hits tails in evrima, its very efficient

[acoustic spruce]

Hit box on those dinos idk I don’t play them much to see but those two were one of the first to be released. I’m sure they’re gonna get updated, ik raptor has plans for updates

[latent olive]

i wouldnt mind a trot buff honestly because it would improve the whole "keeping above 60% stamina" thing

[woven bane]

desync and latency is still common when fighting slow stuff like sub cera for instance

[frank tapir]

universal speed, hunger/diet drain, and water drain decreases and a (mostly) universal growth increase

[mystic aurora]

just put a cap on people ping and fps prob helps lot

kick them if the play on wood

[latent olive]

also fun fact

[frank tapir]

no

[desert arch]

Why fps? 💀

[mystic aurora]

the little advatange

[latent olive]

idk lets just kick people with bad PCs from the server i guess lmao

[desert arch]

Me with an average of 30fps: 😦

[mystic aurora]

will prob fix lot of crap inta lul

[mystic aurora]

i sold my pc couse i only had 55 lul

now iam capped at 120 uncapped 200+

[modest dock]

Good for you

[mystic aurora]

how hell u even play with that low i go nuts

[desert arch]

I only get 30 in hotspots, otherwise 40-50

Besides, lossless scaling exists, so technically I have 60fps

[modest dock]

Same here, its not bad at all

[mystic aurora]

couse ur used to it lul once u go 100+ u never go back

[desert arch]

But still why kick ppl with low fps lmao
It literally doesnt affect how other players see you

[mystic aurora]

the fps is just for the little advantage in frames

[modest dock]

Yeah its literally the weirdest suggestion i ever seen

[mystic aurora]

the ping should be a real kick

[frank tapir]

so high fps should get kicked?

[desert arch]

So kick the people who are already disadvantaged?

[mystic aurora]

macd wifi people need to go only then 😉

[modest dock]

There is literally no diff advantage wise beyond 40 fps ig, its just quality diff but no game diff

Even 30 fps is good enough, just don't go under

[mystic aurora]

il nerf mine to 30 to see

[desert arch]

Ive even managed to fight on like 10-15fps once 💀

Looked like an 8bit game, but I still won

[mystic aurora]

haahha dam

[modest dock]

10-15 fps is hard tho

[desert arch]

Average south plains experience 🙏

[mystic aurora]

so u saying fps matter now lul

[desert arch]

It only matters to you, it doesnt matter for anyone else

If anything your opponent having bad fps is an advantage to you

[woeful latch]

we need lipped potato

mmm cheesy

[mystic aurora]

little speed hack 😛

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1346588124586971199/The_Isle_-_2025-03-04_21-49-19.mp4?ex=6805606b&is=68040eeb&hm=3794e994f7ba03e2fb1f2c985910b819cdcde5a843eeccd2bf26b02699402417& the fps is so low it even messed up the sound lmao

[desert arch]

Officially gone crazy 😭

[mystic aurora]

jesus my god

i would not even play

[desert arch]

Still won against 8 tenos tho!

[frank tapir]

how are your frames so bad with good ping

[mystic aurora]

kinda sad ur ping is oke and u suffer from bad pc

u can buy my old pc with 1080 lul

lot better then u have atm haha

killing 8 tenno wp

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-magic-gif-12725683

[mystic aurora]

i put my fps to 30 now

its playable rest of my pc is good dunno if that helps

[woeful latch]

that’s absolutely wild

how many did you kill? (i’m too lazy to watch the full clip)

[desert arch]

7 out of the 8

[woeful latch]

wild

[desert arch]

The last one ran

[woeful latch]

how many ceras you had?

[desert arch]

We all lived too

[desert arch]

4

[woeful latch]

LMAO

[desert arch]

Its only 3 mins 😭

[woeful latch]

yeah teno is either a very good player or very… isle player

[desert arch]

Skip ahead to like 1 min in if youre that lazy

[woeful latch]

it’s just constant RehaahahahrrRHAHAGARRAHAAHHAHHHHHH that cera does

[reef steeple]

stuck in a crevasse and unstuck dont work and cant die to thirst or hunger because game kicks me out what should i do?

[woeful latch]

makes my ears hurt

also

@desert arch they called me crazy, they said it’s impossible

[desert arch]

No eu4 mixpack is safe now 🥹

[woeful latch]

real

i already killed one omni that way, it didn’t expect me to be able to jump on top of that rock

[valid zephyr]

Honestly I don't mind if isle rex doesn't have lips.

It's the insane overbite which looks awful.

[woeful latch]

yeah

[stable crow]

Yup!!

[normal shuttle]

So many lip suggestions 😭 😭

[limber hull]

islecord is a hivemind

[junior nymph]

lmao

[hoary relic]

If they add lips to rex id like it to be optional tbh

[dry falcon]

ah. they trace a line onto the character mesh.

interesting

[dry falcon]

they did officially give rex lips

but it was ages ago and idk if ill be able to find the video

[icy lion]

Of course, but your post specifies "we" need to stop hackers, which I assume includes yourself, yet I don't see any reports in your message history

[untold geyser]

oh. my god.
i am speechless. what a true display of.. prion disease in tenontosaurus

[gilded drift]

@austere widget carno with lips just looks too furryish/roleplayish, doesn't look dangerous or wild

[ashen shell]

#general-feedback message
how many times did you edit this message

[mellow maple]

I see the lip discussion is proceeding well

[fallow latch]

At this point give lips to gator

[mellow maple]

What do you think I did? Loooool

[fallow latch]

Yk devs are not adding lips to carnivores

Just dream abt it my friend

[mellow maple]

The designs were never gonna change I knew this

[fallow latch]

You can beg and pray but they are not adding lipped rex

[mellow maple]

And they're not obligated too lol. I haven't been begging throughout this entire time I posted the first video

[fallow latch]

Ppl now yearn for lipped dinosaurs, poor devs they gonna be crucified by fans cuz they saw one thing

[mellow maple]

This entire thing has been an experiment to see how people's opinions varied across this singular niche topic

Some like toothy some lippped

Some just don't care

[fallow latch]

Yk that ye made ppl yearning for lips

[mellow maple]

Because they think it looks cool and I agree but I also wouldn't diminish people for liking exposed teeth

[fallow latch]

I told on The Isle chat that devs are not changing rex, I was laugthed at

[mellow maple]

Well duuuhh

What I was suggesting for in the first place is a toggle for customization

Editing your dinosaur features subtly but overall keeping the same look

[fallow latch]

Or idk make it optional or even as a special variant

[mellow maple]

Lips was one aspect

[fallow latch]

What was other

[mellow maple]

Idk make rex have a bumper nasal ridge, rounder or more pointy lacrimal crests, etc

Things people could edit with a slider

[fallow latch]

Yk it would be funny if devs add lips on carnivores, tho it is very very small chance they do it

[boreal vessel]

Bro my non lipped rex would smack the crap out of this lipped pretty boy rex l m f a o

[mellow maple]

Also idk why but people are often forgetting we have lips on various existing theropods of various sizes

[strange hound]

they wont do it its to much work they will have to rework the animation etc

idk why people are so upset abt the rex

[mellow maple]

If you're gonna do that comparison, do the image where the perspective is similar 🤔

[strange hound]

it looks dope tbh

[fallow latch]

Plus the isle is not a game abt paleoaccurate dinosaurs ?

[mellow maple]

My point was never paleo lol

[copper fjord]

these kids need to quit with their unrealistic demands. Rex looks awesome.

[strange hound]

fr man

[fallow latch]

Herrera is just a Green Iguana that it's inbreed and on ketamine

[mellow maple]

Lol

[fallow latch]

Ik i like paleo accurate dinos, but it's a game, a fictional universe i understand why it is lippless

[mellow maple]

Okay but Cas I need to ask then

[boreal vessel]

How about the lipped fellas stop taking wonky angles of the evrima rex lol

[mellow maple]

Why do lips work on Acro, Giga, Bary, Herrera, Omni, and Alberto then?

[fallow latch]

Idk maybe cuz they remade models ?

Idk

[mellow maple]

Fair enough

[fallow latch]

Maybe devs are remaking rex model, we just don't know

[boreal vessel]

Click the photo x2 to zoom in on the Evrima Rexes face lol.

The Evrima non lipped Rex looks mean

[fallow latch]

Tho trike is also not accurate yet ppl are not shitting on it

[dark nymph]

wrong

[fallow latch]

As much as on rex ofc

[strange hound]

look at spino they dont want to make them acurate they want to make them look nice

[thick summit]

They don't want anything to be accurate

[dark nymph]

they were slandering trike for having a pitbull posture, with the head being to small compared to the body and the neck being up way too high oh yeah and don't forget the sprint which they also changed

[thick summit]

They simply want to make cool dinosaurs

[fallow latch]

They never cared abt accurate designs

[strange hound]

thats my piont

[thick summit]

They don't bother with accuracy

[fallow latch]

If ppl want accurate dinosaurs, play PoT

[strange hound]

IMO the evrima spino looks 10x better than the acurate spino

[dark nymph]

their designs are inconcistent though

some look more accurate then others...

[fallow latch]

Yk that in lore they used diffrient dna for diffrient dinos

[dark nymph]

you get this weird frankenstein of a roster

[strange hound]

its hard to make a pachy or teno look like it can kill everything in 1 shot

[thick summit]

I'm a paleo nerd but I'll always prefer unique and interesting designs

[fallow latch]

Also hot take: i don't mind if carnivore have lips or not, as long as it behaves as animal im gonna care

[strange hound]

as long as it looks good and they mechanics are working im happy

[thick summit]

^

[fallow latch]

Hypsi is also not accurate, it have feathers with real animal was not possesing

[thick summit]

I mean we have like three accurate designs I can think of

[fallow latch]

And imo hypsi in the isle is the best design in media

[strange hound]

i played legacy but everything is in turn radius evrima is the first game where rex might be nice 2 play

[thick summit]

Baryonyx, deinosuchus and austroraptor

Maybe stego and allosaurus

[fallow latch]

Ppl just love to complain cuz they have nothing to do

[fallow latch]

Stego is semi-accurate

[thick summit]

People seem to forget modding

[strange hound]

i get them tbh they been waiting for over 1 year and get smth they werent waiting for

[thick summit]

If they want lips they should just wait until mods are a thing

[fallow latch]

Or play diffrient game

[strange hound]

if they ever will be a thing

[thick summit]

It's pretty accurate excluding the plates iirc

It uses plates of different stegosaurus species

For sexual dimorphism which isn't that bad

[fallow latch]

Oh also ppl want accuracy, delete troodon cuz it's not a real species

[icy lion]

They will be

[fallow latch]

In 100 eons

Knowing updates consistency of this game

[icy lion]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

[strange hound]

good to know

[valid zephyr]

RIP omniraptor

[mellow maple]

Idk why some of you are saying accurate/paleo and cool/nice like they're exclusive 🙄

[valid zephyr]

Though something being fictionalised or inaccurate doesn't give it a free pass to look bad.

Isle spino is completely fictional. It looks incredible

Isle rex having a broken jaw style overbite does not look good

[mellow maple]

Isle spino lol

You had me until you mentioned him. Anyway

[valid zephyr]

You not a fan of isle spino?

[mellow maple]

GUESS >:[[[[

[valid zephyr]

Username checks out lol

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a realistic spino in game.

[mellow maple]

ANYWAY

[valid zephyr]

But I feel isle spino objectivly looks great as an animal, even if it's a made up animal

[mellow maple]

I'm in the same camp but I also checked that the fat overbite is completely due to the teeth

[valid zephyr]

legacy rex had a slight overbite, but not this much

[mellow maple]

This

[valid zephyr]

the model is the same, so something must have been redone with the rig or animations to give it this weird overbite

[valid zephyr]

yeah that's just outright horrendous

I'm not sure if it's intentional or not though

if it's not intentional, i hope it gets fixed. If it's intentional..... just why

[limber hull]

when i look at paleo images of hypsi i get disappointed lmao

[fallow latch]

FOR FOX SAKE CAN'T I ENJOY BOTH PALEOACCURATE AND STYLISED DESIGNS ANYMORE

ONLY THING I WISH FOR IS ONE NORMAL FADOM IN THIS JUNGLE WE CALL INTERNET

[valid zephyr]

isle hypsi is another one which is completely made up and fictional, but still looks great.

[fallow latch]

Just accept and live with inaccurate designs in the isle

Carno is better than in JW, cerato is too

Dilo is miles better than JW/JP design

[valid zephyr]

It's not inaccurate designs I have an issue with. It's ugly designs.

An inaccurate fictional design can look amazing. It can also look terrible.

[fallow latch]

Herrera is unique in terms of interpretation, it's not a basic theropod like they show it

[fallow latch]

Sinoceratops and dilo are ugly designs in JW yet ppl are watching movies

Bary looks like it lost braincells

Allosaurs is a crocodile that had mother theropod

[valid zephyr]

people arn't going to not watch a good film due to an ugly dino design, especially one which is in it for 4 seconds total

[fallow latch]

Dominon had dilo in more than 4 seconds

[valid zephyr]

'it's fictional' isn't a blanket get out of jail free card for every single ugly design.

[fallow latch]

Sino replaced trike in franchise

If you don't like rex than idk play something other

[valid zephyr]

almost feels like a subset of people want the ugliest designs possible just to annoy the paleo nerds.

[fallow latch]

Like you have a lot of diffrient creatures

[valid zephyr]

why is moving rexes lower jaw forwards to match where it was in legacy such a terrible and objectional suggestion?

[fallow latch]

Im not saying abt jaw but abt half of a damn fandom now wanting lips on dinosaurs

[valid zephyr]

I mean the something other is usually BoB for me. As most of the dino designs in that game are great. (apart from the old playdough ones)

[fallow latch]

What's next, omni being remade cuz ppl want it to be accurate

[mellow maple]

Yes you can lol

No one says you cannot

[valid zephyr]

Oh I don't care about lips on rex.

Like I said I'm fine with fictional. Lipless rex can be made to look great.

[fallow latch]

Ppl act like it's a crime

[mellow maple]

We're just vocal on our own opinions too

[fallow latch]

As I say why can't we get one normal fandom in internet

[valid zephyr]

Like this is fictional. Doesn't instantly mean it looks good.

[fallow latch]

Get that mutated abomination out of here

[valid zephyr]

This is a dinosaur fandom.

You're in literally the least normal fandom in the entire internet.

[fallow latch]

Plus if you don't know, jp raptors were based on deinonychus

[mellow maple]

You say this (I agreee) but someone will like it

[fallow latch]

Frontier adding Deinonychus were just shooting themselfs in leg

[valid zephyr]

JP raptors are a lot larger than nychus though.

They kinda became their own thing

[fallow latch]

It was in 90's

[limber hull]

this absolute abomination has nothing to do with the isle

[latent olive]

dude..............

[limber hull]

mf looks like a marketable plushie

[fallow latch]

Plus the raptors in JP were based on book version that was bigger

Why, cuz adding dna of some animals made it bigger

[valid zephyr]

It's relevent to the discussion of how saying something is fictional doesn't mean it doesn't look bad.

Something can be fictional and still look terrible

[fallow latch]

Even terrible stuff have their fans

[limber hull]

okay but the isle doesnt have that issue

[fallow latch]

For her rex is issue

[limber hull]

lipless rex dont look as bad as that

[fallow latch]

She wants rex with gigachin

[mellow maple]

Despite me being the guy who made the model edits in the first place I also concurr its not too terrible

[valid zephyr]

As i've said approximatly 37 times. I don't mind lipless rex at all.

[fallow latch]

Yea no devs are not redoing it sorry, go play some other dinosaurs

[valid zephyr]

My issue with rex is that its lower jaw got broken and now it's got an insanely big overbite.

[fallow latch]

Maybe trike, oh sorry it's also not accurate

[normal shuttle]

I hate this lips discussion so much

[fallow latch]

Same

[normal shuttle]

It is so draining bruv

[fallow latch]

At this point i want to die

[mellow maple]

I take full blame for this

[valid zephyr]

bangs head on wall as I have to say for the 38th time I don't care about lips

[mellow maple]

At the same time, it's so funny

[fallow latch]

Than bang head 120 more times more

[mellow maple]

@copper fjord HI, that was my doing

[latent olive]

i said this before, but lipped deinosuchus looks a lot like purrusaurus

[fallow latch]

Cuz ppl won't drop it

[valid zephyr]

Me: Rex doesn't need lips.
Everyone else: Stop asking for rex to have lips.
Me: ...

[mellow maple]

I was the evil man who lipped deinosuchus because the internal demons in my head told me it'd be funny

[fallow latch]

Skill issue

[valid zephyr]

Maybe I should ask for rex to have lips, then people will agree with me that rex doesn't need lips.

[fallow latch]

No just stop complaing at all

[mellow maple]

Nah

[fallow latch]

You don't need to play rex yk

[valid zephyr]

What do you think the suggestions channel is for?

[mellow maple]

Here's the thing

Complaining is not a bad thing

You can dislike something while still being respectful

[valid zephyr]

Giving feedback earlier: Hey it's still a WIP don't complain at stuff which isn't even finished.
Giving feedback later: No it's already done they're not going to go back and redo that now.

[fallow latch]

Im to tired to deal with it all

[mellow maple]

I feel u

[fallow latch]

Maybe if I hibernate off that war

It will get better

[mellow maple]

It's just people saying they like a dinosaur to have It's teeth sealed. I wouldn't make a big deal of it.

[valid zephyr]

The lips suggestions require full on model edits, and even potentially skin edits. They're just not feasable atm.

[mellow maple]

You have your preferences I have mine

[mellow maple]

Whaaaaat?? I did that though

I edited the Rex model and I got a result I thought looked neat

[valid zephyr]

wait i thought it was a photoshop job lol

[mellow maple]

No

It's on blender, check the video again

I'll link my post

#general-feedback message

Enjoy the movie

[valid zephyr]

wait isle rex already has lips, it's literally all jaw position?

wtf

[mellow maple]

I tried telling you all lmao

Fellas pls

[valid zephyr]

I still find it weird how they moved the jaw even furthur back from legacy.

Legacy rex had exposed teeth aesthetically, but didn't have a nearly so extreme overbite

[mellow maple]

Idk why it's a thing now because he's always been like this

[valid zephyr]

it still had an overbite in legacy, it was just less extreme

the lower jaw was basically touching the teeth on the upper jaw

while now there is a big gap between the lower jaw and the teeth on the upper jaw

[mellow maple]

One way to be sure

I need to extract the legacy rex

To end this once and for never

[valid zephyr]

I assume it's a rig thing.

The model is the same I think

[mellow maple]

100%

The uvs are the same. Also

Perspective plays a big role

[valid zephyr]

finding images of isle rex with its mouth closed is hard

[mellow maple]

You can also check for yourself in...

[mellow maple]

Legacy

Install legacy and witness it

[valid zephyr]

tfw i've not downloaded legacy since evrima first dropped

are there even servers remaining in legacy that arn't going to give you malware?

[mellow maple]

Maybe one or two

Also ehehehehe I see it

[modest dock]

Weird ugly overbite. But imma be honest, not every dino needs lips in the isle. Its just rex that need to look a liitle bit chunkier and lips help in that way

Should just be an option tho

[stable crow]

Naaaah i dont think any dino needs lips, the rex just has a very silly overbite right now

[grizzled matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-baby-gif-18747292

[stable crow]

Hehehehe

[frank tapir]

what about omni or herrera or troodon

[stable crow]

If they already have lips in game idc, i mean giving dilo lips, or carno ya know

[mellow maple]

We're looping again

[stable crow]

[inland vigil]

Carno and deino look weird with lips lol

Deino doesn't need them at all. Like even the video made it clear that was a joke

Not sure why people took it seriously

[stable crow]

Do NOT show me a deino with lips ever again it looks so cursed

[inland vigil]

Objectively cerato and dilo look nice with lips but they're both such scraggly animals that lowkey I don't think they need them

They come across more gross (especially dilo) with their current facial structure

But very debated (or even proven) physical aspects would be really nice to have. Like feathered gallis would look SO much less weird lmao

[stable crow]

Yeaa i agree, Dilo's exposed teeth really fit

[compact sequoia]

that lipped deino is haunting my dreams

[stable crow]

Oh yea, that too. I'd love some feather & other customization on some guys, not right now but whenever the game is "basically done"

[compact sequoia]

🤧

[stable crow]

Lipped deino got stung by many bees

[inland vigil]

I don't think we need to wait for "basically done", honestly I'd just prefer they get everything out of the way per dinosaur upon release

[compact sequoia]

deino went to the wrong dentist(herbi fan)

[mellow maple]

Indeed

[inland vigil]

Otherwise we end up with something like dryo that has not had its single mechanic in years. Just finish the thing before adding it

[mellow maple]

I may have started a small faction of lipped deino fans

[stable crow]

:')

[mellow maple]

I take no responsibility

[inland vigil]

Did not even notice your name lOL rip #1 dryo fan

[compact sequoia]

there are so many things wrong with dino models ....but people focus on lips

[stable crow]

Dryo burrowing SOON guys

[austere widget]

It looks more like a proper reptile (yes I know they aren't really reptiles but they're similar enough), it just looks a bit more natural. I always thought the overbite looked dumb. It doesn't really make that much sense for a carnivore to have an offset jaw for it's entire species.

[inland vigil]

The face is the most important feature

[austere widget]

But yeah, depends on whatever the devs think they should look like

[inland vigil]

The carno looks stupid with or without lips I'm gonna be fr

Its weird snub nose just doesn't look incredible in general

[compact sequoia]

no bro the body and the whole head matters too.....carno needs head thickness....trex needs body and head snout thickness...... trike needs crown thickness etc......

[compact sequoia]

true

[inland vigil]

Though the body also is important the face is just objectively what people look at most. If the face looks stupid (especially from the front) then people do not like looking at it

It's just how people work. We're very visually focused on facial features

[compact sequoia]

you want deino with lips.....he gonna smooch the stego near water

lol

[inland vigil]

No? Why would I want that

[inland vigil]

.

[compact sequoia]

okk

[inland vigil]

The deino lips was just a silly joke, people shouldn't be taking it seriously :/ it just makes people who enjoy palaeoaccuracy look like they're crazy and want lips on everything

[stable crow]

Its insane people took the deino with lips post seriously

[inland vigil]

@tender latch unblock the bot

To give you feedback, ❌
The feedback channel is for feedback. Whether or not that feedback is repetitive or not, we have voices and we want to be heard. Deleting relevant discussion is no way to handle criticism.

[limber hull]

he blocks near everything, don't bother

[inland vigil]

lmao

[mellow maple]

You hate everything I post too >:(@limber hull

S m h

@austere widget HI 👋

[austere widget]

Same here tbh. He's very hard to please it seems XD

[austere widget]

And hi!

[limber hull]

i promise you i don't just downvote everyone out of some level of bias

i literally dont remember enough about people to hold a grudge or bias lmao

i just see suggestion, hit the button and thats it

green if i likey, red if i no likey

[stable crow]

So true

[mellow maple]

One of these days I will trick you into upvoting my suggestions. Just you wait.

[limber hull]

i hope so

[mellow maple]

Do you know who made those edits?

[austere widget]

I do! I'll send them to you later spino

In church atm ^^;

[mellow maple]

Com it was me

I made them lmaooo

Also happy Easter I'm at church too. I'm visiting my cousin

[austere widget]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

Ah, I did not know this

[austere widget]

Happy Easter ^^

[gilded drift]

@copper fjord don't ever use deino as an example for lips in the isle agaim lol

crocs don't look that way irl, so ofc it looks goofy with lips on deino

rex just looks better and more natural with lips

[icy lion]

@rugged plaza I like the new ones you suggested (other than the damage one) but Multichambered Lungs doesn't increase how much stamina you have

[limber hull]

"Increased precise movement speed - Value 25%"

What even is precise movement speed lol

[icy lion]

I think she means walking

[limber hull]

@normal steeple why not just add like, y'know, a whale

[normal steeple]

icthy seems more on brand but that would work as well

[limber hull]

i mean we got boars and deers and goats and humans

[inland vigil]

Whales are more likely to create whale falls, not be washed up

Much too heavy

[frank tapir]

then what's the point if it's small? and why can't it be a small whale?

[wooden agate]

deino with lips looks kinda cool

gator instead of odile

[inland vigil]

Not even gators have that much lip..

[stable crow]

Uhh

[limber hull]

grator

[rugged plaza]

More on mutation suggestions

Ability to hydrate a small amount from drinking mud - Value: up to 20%
I think it’s a unique mechanic, but not as useful as others. Who knows
Increased footprint highlight intensity, range, and duration when tracking - Value: 50%
A nice counter to the featherweight mutation, becoming a specialized tracker for your pack or yourself is a nice change to hunting technique
Ability to consume rotten flesh (Carnivore) - Value: N/A
I seriously can’t beleive a mutation for this hasn’t been added, many playables would benefit from the ability to scavenge without consequences, like solo troodon for example
Reduced damage taken and done to group members - Value: 75%
Friendly fire is a bigger issue than you might think, especially for smaller playables that do quite a bit of damage and don’t have much hp. Maybe in addition to this, make it so that you can’t pounce your own group members
Increased jump distance (Addition to reinforced tendons) - Value: 15%
A Herrerasaurus dream. For those that unlock reinforced tendons I think this gives them a bit more use out of it
Increased precise movement speed - Value 25%
A good perk to choose if you find yourself standing your ground a lot. Not game-changing like some other speed oriented mutations, purely situational
Ability to traverse steep angles of terrain - Value: N/A
Surprisingly useful in my opinion, how many times have you been running up a hill as a Herrera and end up climbing when you don’t want to? For other playables this might just give you the chance to get to higher or lower ground that your predators can’t reach
Increased damage to stunned targets - Value: 10%
Again, not game breaking like a pure damage mutation, you have to get the stun off first. I see this being particularly useful for maiasaura
Movement does not effect bleed severity - Value: N/A
Bleed won’t stop you from fleeing a fight anymore

All of these mutations were made to give players more of a tough descision

The way to stop “meta mutations” isn’t always by nerfing the best, just make more bests!

[limber hull]

no its genuinely to nerf the bests

[icy lion]

Yea

[limber hull]

because the bests genuinely defeat a lot of the fine tuned balancing of this game

thats why they're the bests

[rugged plaza]

Isn’t always. I know things like gastro should just be removed

[icy lion]

The new mutation ideas you have are neat, but imo they really don't need their values increased

[limber hull]

every meta mutation needs a colossal rework or removal

[rugged plaza]

I agree, but if they decide to keep them in the game I think they should add more competition

[limber hull]

the bests are the bests because they allow you to ignore the game's balancing factors. That's why they're so good

[inland vigil]

Gastro isn't even that bad if you just nerf it a but, like not allowing it to work past a certain hunger percent for example (including overeating)

[limber hull]

I feel that just introduces powercreep

[limber hull]

That wouldn't do anything, just make cerato able to get even more value out of it

[rugged plaza]

I don’t really like the 6hr slow mode in #general-feedback , since I was gonna make it a 2 parter in case people agreed with one half and not the other

[limber hull]

"Movement does not effect bleed severity - Value: N/A"

Absolutely disgustingly powerful, for instance. This would be a mustpick, every time, without fail

[inland vigil]

I mean most dinosaurs already struggle to get use out of it if they don't have the ability to overeat constantly. If you hunt for food (ie. food low), you get rewarded with healing. If you hunt for no reason, congratulations, you're injured now lol

[wooden agate]

stego vs omni pack with that

[rugged plaza]

Gastro needs the boot. The idea of eating to heal in this game is completely out of character and in practice, overpowered. instead they could change gastronomic regeneration into “You heal much faster on a full stomach”

[austere widget]

#general-feedback message

Okay yeah, I completely agree on a toggle for the dinos lips. That would be so cool and add some flair

[inland vigil]

That's fine and all but gastro is fun asf to have and all of us know it lmao

Camping in a bush for 15 minutes to heal is boreng

[rugged plaza]

Right, but the stego that chooses a bleed resist build might have sacrificed a stamina build to do so, you never know. It’s a pick between scenario

[rugged plaza]

When all mutations are evenly matched and situationally useful I find that people will go with the ones that are most useful to them in particular instead of the ones that are “if you aren’t picking this you’re sacrificing yourself”. When you only have 3 choices, people are very careful about their choice, especially once more are added

[rugged plaza]

Maybe an adjustment such as reduced bleed increase from movement.

[stable crow]

Oo I hadn't seen that vid, but yea a toggle would be cool!

[gilded drift]

Why should mutations have more values than they already do? @rugged plaza

[rugged plaza]

Some

[gilded drift]

Mutations are meant to be slight improvements

They're called mutations for a reason, not special abilities

[austere widget]

Yeah! Cause then it wouldn't just be colors but facial features! We can distinguish even if they're covered in mud!

[stable crow]

Yesss!!

[mellow maple]

Ty for ur upvote

[rugged plaza]

Because many aren’t chosen because of their niche use and low value compared to others. I don’t intend for a dino with a certain mutation to be blatantly stronger than others, but just as a dino with enlarged meniscus can do something unique to survive a certain situation, a dino with wader in my case could escape predators by going to mud. It’s about specializing your dino with slight improvements.

[austere widget]

[mellow maple]

I also hope you enjoyed my music choices

It has audio lmfao but it's there to provide noise and remind people it's not official

How do I do this? By putting copyrighted music of course

[thick summit]

While I do love my lipped dinosaurs, I do think we don't need lipped rex

Sure, I'd love to have a lipped option for every carnivorous theropod in the future

[mellow maple]

Not deino?

[thick summit]

But 90% of the posts in #general-feedback are lipped rex suggestions

[thick summit]

[gilded drift]

Every mutation is a slight improvement already, which cause a butterfly effect. they do matter

[junior nymph]

thats for gen feedback and discussion

[latent olive]

watched that feedback post get posted and deleted in real time

[junior nymph]

what was the post?

[latent olive]

“devs are making more problems than solving” or something like that

[junior nymph]

lmao

peak feedback post

[rugged plaza]

Of course they matter, but compared to others many have no reason to be chosen even for playables that would benefit if the value was just a tad bit more

[gilded drift]

why did that get deleted?

[latent olive]

#moderation message

[gilded drift]

isn't that statement a type of feedback?

[urban flax]

No

[gilded drift]

Can feedback be related to someone's performance? aka devs for example

or is it only about products/things? aka the game for example

[latent olive]

no, and im not going to argue semantics, subjectives, or strawmans about it

[gilded drift]

it was by definition a form of feedback, but sure u don't need to respond to questions you don't like

It would make the beach more alive so i agree @normal steeple

what'd be even cooler is if future aquatic playable corpses can wash up on shore

[rugged plaza]

I like that idea, but maybe camping issues? Not rlly tho

[urban flax]

It's misinformation

[gilded drift]

yeah the body would definitely be claimed by some pack of dilos or whatever from time to time

[gilded drift]

you saying that it wasn't a type of feedback is misinformation, as it was
this is the second time you backtrack on something, like that discussion we and erik had

the feedback was just an opinion, it can't be misinformation as you can't really measure that type of statement

[urban flax]

what

[urban flax]

"devs create more issues than they solve" is literally misinformation

[limber hull]

by defenition, it's a form of feedback. It's just not remotely good or constructive, so it's not worth the time

and at the end of the day, it's up to the devs to decide if they want feedback that adds nothing

[gilded drift]

yeah, it is a form of feedback. so i didn't accept that someone claimed otherwise

i don't agree with the feedback myself, and it's not that constructive, but it is feedback

and the reasoning for removing it was "this channel is for feedback".. but the message was a feedback

[limber hull]

yea, sure, but it doesn't fit the criteria of being worth staying in the channel

[gilded drift]

what's the criteria?

[limber hull]

at least being slightly constructive or worthwhile

saying "game bad/devs bad" isn't worth the time of anyone. it adds nothing to the conversation

it's a feedback channel, not a vent channel. i'd hope the expectation is some level of maturity and understanding of actual feecback

[gilded drift]

It's impossible to measure if it's true or not, FYI. Law of chance

Most mistakes, you don't know are mistakes, until the consequences unfold. So you can't call it misinformation, doing so would be misinofrmation in itself

[mellow maple]

That rex image is being burned into my head

[urban flax]

If that was true the game would not be playable

[gilded drift]

No, you're failing to comprehend basic logic right now
Just because you don't know the answer to "do devsmake more mistakes than not?"

does not mean that the game isn't playable

[limber hull]

also, the statement "devs are creating more problems than solving" literally is misinformation. That goes against the objective endgoal of their entire jobs, and we have tangible evidence to the contrary of that statement, but that's neither here nor there

the point is, it's just entirely non-constructive and provides nothing of value to anyone

[urban flax]

I know the answer tho

But tbh, it doesn't really matter
That piece of feedback was just meant to be an attack, not actual feedback

[gilded drift]

As I just explained, it's not POSSIBLE to know the answer to that question 💀

[limber hull]

had he framed it as an opinion, perhaps your argument would hold more weight in your constant ongoing fight with Bubulblu over nothings, but the fact it was stated as a fact makes it misinformation. Simply saying large sweeping statements without emphasising why you think that or that it's your opinion frames it as fact, which it evidently isn't

feedback doesn't need to be preserved if it doesn't add anything. There's nothing sacred about it

the endgoal of feedback is to adapt and improve. There's nothing to improve off when the feedback is a hitpiece without elaboration

[gilded drift]

Disagreeing is not fighting, discrediting valid points with "bait" "that's fighting" "troll" doesn't debunk anything

[gilded drift]

You mentioned a criteria, there is no criteria like what you described for general feedback. you're just making an anecdotal subjective opinion on what You think should be the criteria

[limber hull]

there is a criteria. i'm merely making guesses to what it is. it's the moderators who uphold it

[gilded drift]

"make ptera bigger" would be allowed in the channel, but it's not exactly constructive is it? It doesn't have any depth to it?

[limber hull]

at least it isn't destructive

at least it presents an opinion beyond "you're doing a bad job"

something someone can work with

work a job and get told to "work harder" and that's about the amount of worth that feedback has

[gilded drift]

I honestly just think at this point any form of criticizement that mention the devs in any way, is invalidly frowned upon because it involves anything negative on the devs' direction in the game

Dude's post wasn't constructive or useful but it was still feedback

[limber hull]

i mean, sure, you can think that, but i've seen lots of feedback that criticises the vision of the game that remains intact because it had substance

i see it every day

its honestly rare said feedback gets deleted. dude must be proud to post something so inane that it catches the eye of someone moderating the server

[gilded drift]

"work harder" is good feedback, gives you an idea of what you need to do. not so much detail to it

repeating it over and over without adding depth through time though, is not good feedback

his feedback did raise a debatable question - if he's allowed to elaborate on it then there might be something to it, but repeating it over and over? that's when it has no purpose

but the initial post did raise a question

[urban flax]

It really isn't

[limber hull]

elaborate

[gilded drift]

"Work harder" is a very good feedback if the solution actually is work harder,

Unless it's repeated several times without elaboration, because then you'd fail to acknowledge the feedback wasn't constructive enough to start with

sometimes a blank message works

also his blank message in #general-feedback did raise a debatable question

[limber hull]

justifying flamebait by saying it gets a reaction doesn't make flamebait valid

anyways, that feels like the perfect note to end on

[gilded drift]

when did i say it gets a reaction? never did, you clearly don't have anything to say lol

accusing something of bait is a nice way of you saying "that offends me, i dont want it to be true"

[urban flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[limber hull]

@cinder haven play HT carno. it's good. that's it

[cinder haven]

This carno is not enjoyable for me, I mean... It doesn't work, it doesn't give the old taste, and I think it's good, there will be too many trex on the island and you can't kill them by bit (except for yourself) anyway, there will be too many of them and it would be enjoyable to kill them carno, it would also balance the population on the island.

Also I was hopeful when this life first came but when I learned that its speed and damage were reduced it was a complete disappointment for me and thanks to it cera is dominant in all servers and after allo came sub trex and allo swarms

[limber hull]

new carno can go faster than old carno, and for longer

charge makes it 59.4km/hr, faster than old carno

[cinder haven]

I don't like infinite charge I prefer the old Charge, the one that is disposable and stuns when touched. I admit it had some issues but it wasn't anything that couldn't be fixed.

[normal shuttle]

Can people please shut up with the lip post spamming 😭

[junior nymph]

fr

[normal shuttle]

I initially didn’t mind it but it’s just fing annoying rn

[junior nymph]

they have got the point across if the devs actually were to add it they would have 💀

[cinder haven]

Yes, we have much more important issues than that, such as the pachy weirdness and hitbax problems, etc.

[normal shuttle]

Every single day, at least a handful of post about the same thing

[normal shuttle]

About the exact same nitpick

And I am guessing the devs are gonna start hating that too after being bombarded with it

[normal shuttle]

I know, it’s so annoying

[junior nymph]

people are now saying it for cera, carno, dilo and deino like none of them need it

[normal shuttle]

And it’s just spamming. It’s the same people who have posted the same thing repeatedly

All ideas are acknowledged already, why can’t they get that

[cinder haven]

Also the biggest problem is the terrorist baby trexes as far as I know they will run 55 and they are 250 they are little terrorists no one can catch them and they are causing problems (And population explosion)

[junior nymph]

imo it just looks worse

[normal shuttle]

No, posting a suggestion 17 times won’t make it 17 times more valuable

If anything it makes it less likely to be added

[normal shuttle]

I don’t mind it but I am just so annoyed whenever I open the channel (very often since im a feedback dweller) and I have to scroll through an army of those

[gilded drift]

none of those need a change with their lips, but rex does

[normal shuttle]

Arbitrary as hell

Any dinosaur can look dumb with perspective

^for example