general-feedback-discussion

[cyan flame]

That I can somewhat agree with, game and world needs more things to do in it and all that

[thin root]

you have no threats, and u walk aimlessly around the map starving, nesting is cool sure, but herbivores theres no reward, bc u absolutly dumpster everything infront of u

with carnivores there is at least purpose and reward

[tame plover]

Dont compare cera and carno in noise regards, one is a ambush predator, the other one is a pack hunter

[cyan flame]

But they're the same size, hence should be about the same noise, no?

If we're talking about sounding way louder than the size suggests

[tame plover]

Size is not equal to noise, but if that was the case, then carno should be 1.8 ton again haha its so noisy. Ceras dont really make alot of noise, only when vomiting to make food rotten, biting or calling

[cyan flame]

Also I'm not sure either is that, cera is primarily a corpse bully/scavenger and hunter otherwise, carno is more of a run down hunter, not neccesarily ambush, since the only thing you need to ambush would be galli, being faster. And both of them can pack, but neither really is designed for it, and I'm honestly not sure which one works better in groups as it stands.

[cyan flame]

Well, it doesn't have to be, but the claim was that carno was as noisy as a rex after all, that would imply that size should affect noise.

So if that's the case, then you could compare it to the same sized critter, being cerato

Dilo is extra noisy, but that might be because of the whole venom thing, so sure, there's exceptions

[tame plover]

I have no idea what the rex will sound like, but I assume it will be as noisy as carno is right now XD - Rex is ambush predator aswell and contrary to popular belief, it most likely wasnt noisy when sneaking around herds.

[tame plover]

Dilo is also waaaay too noisy

[tame plover]

Cerato is not a critter haha. Cerato is a bully/scavenger/pack hunter, its ok if its loud. It shouldnt have massive footsteps ofcourse, but simply being loud because it doesnt care is what im talking about

[cyan flame]

Well, rex is an ambush predator, or designed so in the game, not sure cera or carno really is. Though they obviously can, should, and sometimes must, depending on circumstances. Still, neither is really neccesarily good at it. Whereas rex seems to be designed to be good at it.

[cyan flame]

Well, could be the whole venom thing, so it's a way to track the dilo when you can't see much, I don't know, just heard that as a possible reason why it sounds like that, but it could just be that noisy because they think it should be

[cyan flame]

Sure it's a critter, they all are, just what I call them xD Just apply playable, or dino, or whatever other term you prefer then, I like to call them critters. And sure, that kind of fits for cera, if that's how it's supposed to feel.

[tame plover]

I dont mind carno being loud, but then make it stronger too :p I would honestly not like carno to be a silent ambush predator, that wouldnt change much in terms of the current tier its placed in.

Rex is not in the game, its in another game called "Legacy" 😄 These are 2 very different games.

[cyan flame]

It's not in yet, but it's getting there

And I'm pretty sure a few things have been shown of it too

[tame plover]

Not alot, but yeah a few things. I am excited and hopefully rex will fill the void a solo player is missing :p

[cyan flame]

Hopefully, because I doubt anyone want to see packs of rexes!

[tame plover]

I assume it will be max pack of 2 as rex, which would be awesome to see a big full grown rex walking along with his juvenile companion 😄

[proven fossil]

@cinder mauve player count and spawn locations are the biggest factors. feels like 90% of carnivore spawns are near south planes and in other larger servers there is always some interaction throughout the map

[tame plover]

Even if people spawn far away on bigger servers, they always instantly run to hotspots, unless they find food, then they grow a little before running to hotspots 😄

[proven fossil]

droughts need to happen

[cinder mauve]

also consider the type of environment.
The plains are always populated. Remember east plains? Now it is a swamp. Most players, other than crocs stay away from the swamps. This creates a death spiral where now crocs don't want to be in the swamps either, because no one goes there.
And thats how you get those dead zones

[proven fossil]

swamps are also supposed to be flat ground all around and this one is just a hill region

[cinder mauve]

exactly this.

both swamps are also locked in by cliffs or walls, aka, more dead zone

[proven fossil]

the best areas i see in swamp are the ones that are flat and the only elevated areas are the mud pillars

[proven fossil]

this is true i always have a hard time navigating

its a death sentence spawnign in swamp

[tame plover]

Its not so bad once u get used to it :p Its really a beautiful area, but absent any life

[tame plover]

Unless you mean as a croc, then yeah its pretty confusing xd

[cinder mauve]

pretty much, this is why most try to get out of there as soon as they can. Which is another factor feeding that death spiral of the player ratio in that area.

[frank tapir]

#general-feedback message @potent solar what?

[indigo gulch]

yeah, what...

[faint folio]

I had to read it like 8 times because I was confused too when I first read it earlier, but I'm pretty confident what they are trying to say is:

I would like to see more people using the in game chat feature to create more interactions between players (AN: presumably as opposed to using out of game voice chats like on discord). I was thinking they could add a 4th mutation which is unlocked when players use the in game chat enough. This mutation could be something less OP than the options for the growth based and nested mutations already available. This is supposed to incentivize increased interaction between players in the form of in game chatter, which will make the game feel more alive and fun (AN: Presumably because you'd hear more dinos due to the F call that happens when chatting in game)

I mean... Meh. It's not a horrible idea... But id think it would be hard to prevent abuse via just spamming "A" in text somewhere dead until the mutation unlocks, and if the mutations available are too subtle it won't be a strong incentive. It would be cool to get more people using the chat though

[frank tapir]

wait so what's the mutation?

increased chat range?

[faint folio]

I think they mean a new mutation slot. Like, the mutation menu has 4 big slots and only uses 3 right now. Not a mutation option

so instead of having 3 active mutations on a nested dino, you could have a max of 4 by engaging with other players using chat

And then limiting what mutations you could equip in that last slot to things that are less abusable (looking at you, combat mutations)

[thick summit]

@woeful fractal nuh uh

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message mixpacking complaint basically

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message i wonder if he ever went to unofficials

[normal shuttle]

Probably not

[wooden agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120790649826984056/1360147523460792350/animated_map.gif

because unofficials (this one has objective data to look at :D) have a much better player density

obviously the hotspots are still hot, but you have a decent chance of finding someone pretty much anywhere

[normal shuttle]

And in ALL the hotspots

Rather than just sp and west rail

[wooden agate]

i will agree that 100 is too little for the official servers though

i feel like the minimum should be 140ish

[normal shuttle]

Right

Although man

Calling the game poorly designed only because of player density

[wooden agate]

he also mentioned starving

[woeful latch]

i’d say even on officials you can always find someone if you know where to look

[wooden agate]

but uh... 60 hours? you didnt learn how to get food yet?

[normal shuttle]

also starvation lol

[limber hull]

" People meet up in certain spots making 90% of the map a waste of space"

This statement baffles me because EVERY dino game has that in my experience

[wooden agate]

true, its just 10x harder for newer players

[woeful latch]

yeah fair

[normal shuttle]

Bro started playing with carno

[wooden agate]

its actually horrid in POT. you can not find ANYONE if youre not at impact crater or near the spawns for juvies

[normal shuttle]

What if he hates all dinosaur games though

[wooden agate]

and the verticality people complain about with gateway? ITS 10X WORSE ON GOWANDA

[limber hull]

to quote, he loves dinosaur games

[normal shuttle]

Oh, didn’t read that lmfao

I guess he only played ark then? Even though most of the map has no players either?

[limber hull]

i'll be real i cant understand how you play PoT and BoB and go "hmm The Isle has a hotspot issue"

also yea, ARK has the same issue

[wooden agate]

ARK is only playable in singleplayer or in friend only dedicated servers and i will die on that hill

[normal shuttle]

Tbf last time I played pot there was a Neo where it was rather easy to find people, but that’s also because BoB’s map has less land you can walk on than Gateway and it’s not even close

[wooden agate]

BOB atleast gets somewhat of a pass because if someone stays in an area long enough, you get a marker on your compass saying its X animals territory

and the general area is large enough to not feel pinpoint accurate

[normal shuttle]

I am not even joking when I say that never in my life did I ever see someone building a base near the vanilla map redwoods or the very heart of the island. Everyone’s at the beach

[normal shuttle]

Well yeah, and it’s also pretty small at least the last time I played in that map that was like a ring with three major islands. You could get anywhere even as a meg or para in like 10 minutes

[limber hull]

idk the only issue i think is a genuine struggle is the juvi hunger, but that comes down to finding a meal and sticking with it till you grow out of the early growing pains

[normal shuttle]

Mhm, and to be fair there’s no longer AI problems in officials, right?

Only in unofficials like Petits where there’s suddenly huge famines for no reason and it makes growing any carnivore but herra, ptera or cera a problem

[woeful latch]

i wouldn’t really say that, growing carnivore on petits is easy

[normal shuttle]

Until you start growing a carno and ai phases out of existence

[woeful latch]

even if there’s less ai the 300+ players on the server give you a lot of corpses to scavenge

[normal shuttle]

And there’s only turtles around

[woeful latch]

eat turtles

[wooden agate]

i love hunting deer on petit and having them despawn as im attacking them

i love when i lost a 40% carno to that

[normal shuttle]

I love when officials had no ai and I got bit by a cera as a sub dilo after I had been struggling with hunger for 2 hours and forced to cannibalize twice 💔

[woeful latch]

mhhm this HT experience

[normal shuttle]

14 downvotes in less than 30 minutes

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-avengers-assemble-avengers-endgame-captain-america-gif-23247411

Isle glazers, assemble!

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message they said they’re planning to add feathered versions of skins

[vital laurel]

okay but like, you shouldnt have to play unofficals to enjoy a decent experince, its not rly a gotem, its a you proved him right

atm a lot of player experince hackers on officals, few players due to unadjusted player count for gateway, less active admins. Unofficals outshine them in every regard, which could be fine if its cus they have cool mods, but no, just in playabilty they are better

[wooden agate]

then it's a server specific issue moreso to do with moderation than a game issue itself

[vital laurel]

What

[lucid mauve]

and also no mixpacking , i like that to

[covert tiger]

@wispy abyss I think you mean nerfs

[wooden agate]

in general his feedback seems centered around the game as a whole, most of which is fixed by unofficials. and the problems that arent, are usually due to the lackluster of moderation on those official servers

i do agree with your point fundementally, and officials DO need to be improved

but its less of a pure game issue (like his feedback is referring to) than it is just a server issue

sorry for slow response

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

filters are coming (infact i think theyre in HT right now)

[dire rover]

oh that's cool!!

i really really just care about the camera speed everything else can stay the same for all i care 😭

[wooden agate]

yah thats valid

[covert tiger]

@compact sequoia deino already has the slowest growth in the game

[formal kayak]

#general-feedback message
@cerulean crescent can you check in your settings if you have streamer mode enabled
That looks like streamer mode

[stark spade]

#general-feedback message
Can anyone Translate ?

[formal kayak]

alongside that, looks less like general feedback and moreso like troubleshooting

[vital laurel]

I mean officials are the default experience

[vital laurel]

I mean, officials being 100 players is just dondi refusing to change it, most players want it and I’ve seen several devs have a positive attitude to more players as

[wooden agate]

dondi also wants community servers to carry alot of the player experience though

thats part of the reason they're as customizable as can be (or will be)

[normal shuttle]

@compact sequoia we don’t care about realism, bruv. The devs don’t care about realism. It will have a growth time that fits its role and the things it can do

[haughty fossil]

#general-feedback message
Bumping this one cause I think it's worth reading

[normal shuttle]

Its good

But I got distracted and started reading the baffling eagle ptera one just below

[wooden agate]

"highest damage per bite in game"

so now theres no reason for deino to kill the way its meant to. by drowning.

what is up with people wanting deino to be some insane brawling demon?

that is never going to happen lol

[urban flax]

Deino having highest bite damage in the game isn't even realistic

[quartz summit]

@cerulean crescent go to settings and turn off streamer mode

[normal shuttle]

I know 😭 look at how much misinformation that study has spread

When it is the equivalent of saying a lion can wrestle a hippo on its own by upscaling the strength of a house cat

[normal shuttle]

People trying to understand that deino should also have to worry about other creatures (only spino and its own lmao) and that’s okay

They can’t

B-but deino should be the strongest in water!!

[wispy abyss]

ooppsie, yeah, damn.

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message i want ptera and troodon have that by default

[desert arch]

Scavenger troodon would be the devs admitting defeat over making it work as a punch up predator imo

It doesnt need it, you can be filled by any fresh spawn anyway

[woeful latch]

i don’t see how it can harm troodons niche

troodon is a scavenger anyway, let’s be real..

especially when you play solo, it’s between ai and scavenging

<@&933486433342222376>

[hidden mist]

<@&933486433342222376>

[junior nymph]

<@&933486433342222376>

in every chat 🙂

[bronze matrix]

nah troodon rn (especially as a solo) is a juvi hunter
if you play troodon and you can only scavenge and ai graze, that's on you

if you play troodon correctly, you can rule your own sanctuary with piles of juvi corpses keeping you a perfect capped out diet for hours

[woeful latch]

i never said i can’t kill juvies lol, it’s 2-3 pounces anyway

[woeful latch]

sanctuary troodon is somewhat fun sometimes, but its boring as hell after doing that for more than an hour

[bronze matrix]

ok fair that's true ngl

i usually hope to attract more troodons doing that and move on to bigger targets

but it never works

[woeful latch]

i was in like 20 members troodon pack just camping northern sanctuary on petits

that was crazy, the amount of corpses around was insane

[bronze matrix]

that's the dream
had one experience like this on officials in the sp sanctuary

never again

[woeful latch]

yeah that’s why i never go to the sp sanctuary 👽

just a death sentence lol

[bronze matrix]

yea in the northern sanctuary if you can get one corpse into the sanctuary, you can farm juvi ceras
it is wild how easy that is

[woeful latch]

yeahh ahah

[bronze matrix]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1360278355974295784 @austere widget
I think that is already planned (at least with hypsie)

[austere widget]

Yeah, but I think the sideways nest on a tree would be really cool so that's mostly why I brought it up XD

Unless that's what you mean but yeah

[bronze matrix]

ah ok
that one idk if its planned
I was talking about the regular nest

[slim hazel]

Are custom servers going to be able to change Dino stats

[austere widget]

Yeah, I have barn swallows around my area and I always thought the nests were really cool so I thought maybe I would mention it

[austere widget]

Ohhhhh

Yeah, that's really cool

[woeful latch]

yeahhhh me and @vivid mason did it on official server, also nested some hatchlings

sorry for the ping

-# (i’m not actually sorry) muahhahaaa

[austere widget]

Wait, on officials? Was it a glitch then?

[woeful latch]

no, hypsi can jump really high up, we just jumped on one of the branches, nested, then unpaired and nested again

so we got a nest for nesting and nest for just sitting on it

we’re also the first and probably the only ones who did that and that’s legendary

[austere widget]

Honestly, it totally is. You are living the dream right there XD

Hit me up if you ever do it again

[woeful latch]

yeah sure!

[bronze matrix]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1360288642643263519
Cool idea but one big problem with that suggestion:
You can counter it with meta-game knowledge (no pun intended).
Clones behave different from real dilos, so you can tell them apart. And if you know that the clones are harmless, you ignore the confusing information and only target the dilos behaving more like players. This would be especially useful if you play a tankier dinosaur (like a dibble) and use the terrain in a defensive position.
Also on a side note: It does not solve the problem of sometimes dilo clones not spawning in or having trouble to reach their targets.

[rotund hazel]

Yes, for now. But have you seen the upcoming work that they have been doing with ai in the game? Specifically the carno ai clip? You can hardly tell that it isn't a real player as it dodges, attacks, slides, etc. That, coupled with dilo clones would make knowing who is who incredibly difficult. And regardless, not knowing how injured you are very quickly becomes a massive point of stress for many players. They are more likely to try and disengage, allowing the real dilos openings to attack, because they have no reliable indication of their injuries anymore

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[bronze matrix]

I have not seen that clip. Yeah if they pull a believable Dilo AI off, it could def work.
Although making the dilo venom non-lethal does create more problems for the dilo in which prey can just jump out of reach.

[rotund hazel]

Yes, but isn't that the same for everything? Things can jump out of reach of carnos, ceratos, etc already. It's no more fair or unfair when the dilos can't reach something that has jumped away at that point.

[bronze matrix]

yea fair point

[vivid mason]

It was fun

[split sundial]

Not being able to see how hurt you are while you are envenomated sounds cool but dilo definitely needs something to compensate for lack of damage from hallucinations if they are only going to be distractions. Dilo is quite fragile for how big it is and also quite heavy with the way it moves compared to how fragile it is. Entire gimmick against them is putting them down before they get the venom on you or getting them decently hurt before they get the venom on you otherwise you are done for. Which works really with how fragile they are and how sluggish their movement is. I sadly can't see hallucinations working quite well as distractions when their stats don't really match for that playstyle.

[vivid mason]

Nu uh

[gritty heart]

Personally I’m team passive

[rotund hazel]

Oh of course. Adjustments to their overall agility/footsteps should be considered. I just think that relying on AI that breaks every other patch as the major way of dealing damage is too inconsistent and incredibly unfun for the player being targeted. Especially as something like a raptor or pachy, you get venomed, you're dead. Full stop. One set of clones will kill you

[icy lion]

@ashen shell Hold Ctrl

[ashen shell]

no way

tysm

[rotund hazel]

#general-feedback message
Can agree with the first one. Big no on the second. We don't need more pins and un-fightable glorified death animations.

[thick summit]

carno doesn't need a pin ability

it's doing well

[woeful latch]

little rat should know its place👹

(jk)

[vivid mason]

I agree, genuinely

It’s place in the apex tier

[desert arch]

Want me to send it again?

[woeful latch]

at this point it feels like every semi large carnivore will have a pin and i hate that

[desert arch]

Preach 🗣️

[woeful latch]

DONT YOU DARE DONT YOU DARE

[desert arch]

Alright ^^

[woeful latch]

like actually, i will murder you

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-fade-smile-fade-to-dumb-happy-to-straight-face-smile-fade-to-shock-smile-fade-to-curious-gif-4098180333973202457

[woeful latch]

!!!

[woeful latch]

well it is apex

[thick summit]

fr

[muted flare]

2. https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/k4cG08H7FYSHiXFQh?invite=cr-MSxzYmgsMzE1MzQ0MDA3

can someone tell me what happend to me?

1. https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/k4cFulChsvEdCe6fR?invite=cr-MSxOWUYsMzE1MzQ0MDA3

[icy lion]

Looks like hacks, what server was that on?

[muted flare]

triassic survival

2 herreras were hiding on rock near sanctuary

[split sundial]

Using hallucinations as distraction relies on AI just as much as current version tho. And a raptor pounce or a well aimed pachy bonk is also a death sentence to a dilo just like how venom is death sentence to two of them. Dilo venom was almost perfect when it first released and they just need to bring that back. You could kind of fight back against the venom with clones giving you a bit of a time for you to destroy them before they start charging towards you which also comes with the risk of actual dilo biting you while you are focused on getting rid of the clone that is staring at you from a distance which was the perfect middle ground of venom actually being something lethal and distractive while still allowing the prey to fight back against it.

[bronze matrix]

<@&933486433342222376>

[woeful latch]

<@&933486433342222376>

well you were faster then me

[bronze matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gunslinger-six-shooter-gun-flip-flip-gun-into-holster-gif-12524647873518510513

[woven bane]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[woeful latch]

DONT YOU DARE, JUST DONT

[woven bane]

my apolocheese

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apolocheese-apolocheese-accepted-cat-funny-apology-gif-10572966699290880170

[normal shuttle]

@leaden bronze WHAT DO YOU MEAN GIVING A PIN TO CARNO

https://tenor.com/view/opposingly-jake-gyllenhaal-gif-21092186

Also you are COMPLETELY wrong because a full charge carno will stun a cera and cancel their charged bite

Also, carno pinning something with its horns 😭

And with fracture…

The more I read, the worse it got

[leaden bronze]

it probly did it irl

it doenst work like raptors pin

🤦

u rly are writing a whole wikipedia page for me rn?

[woeful latch]

meow

[leaden bronze]

what is it with theese mcdonald's caps?

[woeful latch]

chicken jockey

flint and steel

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-lava-chicken-jockey-lava-chicken-gif-12217205500015743483

[woeful latch]

i can’t believe he said “it’s morbin time” and killed that ender trex

[normal shuttle]

Every carnivore in this game could probably pin something down

You are forgetting the golden rule of isle balancing that you keep being told: realism matters nothing. All irl arguments are meaningless

Now, tell me why carnotaurus, currently with an easy to spam move with a huge hitbox, speed boost and a knockdown on dilos and below and also a stun on ceras and tenos, should get on top of that a pinning mechanic. Tell me a balancing or gameplay reason that it should.

And no, I am trying to provide an easy to understand summary of why that justification is not convincing at all (for the devs and the philosophy of this game too) in a way that there’s no room for interpretation. Clear as day

[woeful latch]

opinions are weapons

[leaden bronze]

all theese teno/cera stuns dont mean nothing becouse they pre-atack that causes carno NOT being able to do anything to teno

[normal shuttle]

Teno 1v1 is brutal, yeah

And honestly it should sort of remain that way

[leaden bronze]

teno basicly has inf stamina 😭

[normal shuttle]

Carno shouldn’t be trying to mess with a brawler larger than itself in a 1v1

[normal shuttle]

Yeah sorta, because all of its attacks worth anything do take stamina.

Remove tactile and it should be good

[leaden bronze]

why is it then 1300kg? 😭

why cant it be 1800?

what was the problem?

they gonna make allo 500kg

xD

[woeful latch]

because it’s the fastest dino in the game

[leaden bronze]

galimi-

but yea, there are other ways to balance it

than making it the same weight with cera

[normal shuttle]

What’s wrong with carno being 1300kg? It hunts small game perfectly now

[woeful latch]

they did and that’s was bad

[leaden bronze]

cera grows faster and basicly is stronger

[woeful latch]

not anymore

[leaden bronze]

?

[woeful latch]

HT buffs

[leaden bronze]

well nice ig

[normal shuttle]

Is being 1800kg a real gameplay need for it to be a small game hunter?

[desert arch]

The thing is, the devs tried. They gave it a special weakness to bleed and fractures, they nerfed charge dmg like 3 times in a row, they made it have an initiation cost, they gave charge a 60m windup distance... the list goes on, and carno was never in a position where it was good. It way either op, or straight up garbage.

[leaden bronze]

I mean mostly carno vs cera experience, cera wasnt that strong ( ik irl no matter or smth ) but ceras rmb is too strong at the moment, it should be a defence atack not being spammed

[leaden bronze]

make it 500kg but being able to pin stego seems fine xD

[woeful latch]

i agree

[leaden bronze]

pachy is going crazy with this one

[normal shuttle]

So…why not nerf cera instead of buffing carno to a spot where it shouldn’t be?

[woeful latch]

i want 2t teno, sorry chat

[leaden bronze]

nerf cera then c:

[leaden bronze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969040338704560186/1133435242645033151/attachment.gif

[woeful latch]

LMAOOO

this is so sad

poor lucy lloyd

[leaden bronze]

this is meme,

I hope atleast

[woeful latch]

ik…

[normal shuttle]

Yeah. Charged bite is too good and everyone knows that. But carno especially in HT is just fine as it is. No need to buff it to match current cera just so we get another terrifyingly strong apex carnivore but this time much faster and knocking over ceras and tenos

[leaden bronze]

ceras rmb needs NERF NOW

[woeful latch]

please

[leaden bronze]

can carno knock tenos?

[woeful latch]

well they gave cera a buff instead and i’m going feral because of that

[normal shuttle]

1.8t absolutely could

[woeful latch]

it can stun it but only if it charges for like long time

[normal shuttle]

Same vs the cera back then

[desert arch]

60 meters actually 🤓

[woeful latch]

old carno could insta knockdown it as far as i remember

[leaden bronze]

NERF EVERYTHING AND LEAVE CARNO AS APEX

[desert arch]

With bugged charge yeah

[woeful latch]

not insta but it needed less distance

[normal shuttle]

Yup. I was talking about why trying to make it 1800kg to compete with an overtuned carnivore (cera) would just lead to two carnivore powerhouses instead of just one that we have currently

[normal shuttle]

Go back to update 2

[leaden bronze]

make cera 1t and it will eb alr

[leaden bronze]

I miss the old days so much

[woeful latch]

tbf it is an apex, if i see a carno as dilo or omni im running away

[leaden bronze]

isla spiro

[desert arch]

There was a bug/tech where if you started charging the moment your and your enemy's hitboxes touched, it would instantly knock down.

It was so fun, skillful, and op at the same time

[woeful latch]

oh didn’t know that

[leaden bronze]

??? it cant kill even a teno rn, bassicly 75% of herbivores

[normal shuttle]

I am glad we left them behind

[desert arch]

Wait I have a clip, lemme try to get it, new carno had it too for a few months

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/virus-please-wait-downloading-retro-win95-gif-26539025

[normal shuttle]

Spiro was ass, and so was having 4 playables with stego ruling uncontested

[woeful latch]

it can in groups, but it shouldn’t really do it alone

but there’s also juvies and subs, remember that

sub maia honestly just dies to carno with no chances

HT maia might actually be able to fight back at least lol

[leaden bronze]

i miss the times WITHOUT stegos charge swing, I have so much memories with spiro ...

the good (g)old days

[leaden bronze]

NOOOO

make maia max 500kg

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1295037016190353509/carno_OP_A_Clipchamppel_keszult.mp4?ex=67fa7eb5&is=67f92d35&hm=47d82183ac6090d8269c408fb4f8178b24cf0274fb00ad22966dde5feab30b15& I had spotify on while recording, dont question it lmao

[leaden bronze]

uhh, nice music

[leaden bronze]

terible cera overall, how do you stun it with 2 sec charge?

[normal shuttle]

Imagine no power swing stego vs ceras

[leaden bronze]

power swings make it easier for ceras to beat stego c:, but overall it 1 shotting cera and carno is fair

it was made to be untouchable

and worth the grind

JUST BAN THEESE STEGO CANNIBALS I CANTWAUF{SUFHUWUFWU

[desert arch]

@woven bane 😭

It was a bug

[leaden bronze]

YOU BUG ABUSER

I carry no hate against you

( if carno has an OP bug imma use it UNINTENTIONALY )

[desert arch]

The ceras skill literally didnt matter, this bug made them helpless once the carno player mastered the timing

[leaden bronze]

why is it so hard to hit ceras they are way too agile

[normal shuttle]

Alt swing has much higher cooldown and the hitbox doesn’t show up before the animation, so nah

Non power stegos as cera are so free

[icy lion]

@sonic tangle Devblogs are posted at the end of every month

[leaden bronze]

ik

AND WHY DO I GET KILLED BY ALT SWING EVEN THO THE TAIL IS RETREATING???

fix hitboxes

[potent solar]

i gave a sugestion that people should use more the chat in game then the discord and sugested giving a 4 mutations to people that use it, a free mutation but very weak in trade u just need to keep using chat in game. majority of peps didnt like it.
i think it would made the game more real then the reality, since dinos didnt have a ciberlink to talk by thoughts.
i think it would be good for the game too, creating more interatctions, more action, and liveness to the game.

[bronze matrix]

although i totally understand the frustration of getting surprised by a well coordinated pack that is totally silent
you have to consider this:

• forcing players to use the ingame chat that is only typing is not popular since talking while playing is always easier
• to actually enforce this ingame is probably not possible or at least idk how you would do that

[potent solar]

theres games that have voice chat

but it can be a option too, just by on/off on the options interface

u can wishper or be more near the person u want to talk

it just to creat more interatctions

[hollow flume]

Not going to happen dino

[bronze matrix]

sure but you also have to consider that not everybody wants to hear what the other players say

[potent solar]

im getting frustated, i just want more actions and interactions betwens players

[bronze matrix]

it would probably destroy alot of immersion if you get killed and hear a 12 year old throw insults at you

[potent solar]

mute them maybe

dont go near them

this can be all in game options

[bronze matrix]

sure yea
tbh it sometimes bothers me too if I run into a group of well coordinated people that are absolute silent while others using the chat make constant sounds

[potent solar]

i think discord breaks the game

its not fare

[bronze matrix]

yeah but it's accepted by the community so nothing is going to change

[potent solar]

i think the players should iv the option to chose

using voice/chat in game in trade of a small mutations

[bronze matrix]

actually it's kinda funny if you think about it. Because it's actually community accepted "cheating" if you stretch the meaning of that word enough lol

[potent solar]

most of times on my games nothing happens

[potent solar]

i dont understand

[bronze matrix]

You know what would be cool
if using third party vc-apps would also lead to the dinosaur making a call like you do if you chat via text

[bronze matrix]

I'm just babbling
don't worry about it

[thick summit]

you don't have to fight ceras though

[thick summit]

let's make teno 2.5x larger than it actually was!!! hell yeah!

it's already twice as large as in real life

[woeful latch]

sorry, i want 2.4t teno

changed my mind

[thick summit]

🔥

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[woeful latch]

im actually serious, its such a good brawler i dont think we will get something better, i just want it to be able to fight more things

like make it completely fictional, it has nothing to do with the actual tenontosaur anyway

[woven bane]

2.4T is wild though, it would be competing against mid tiers like diablo

[woeful latch]

hopefully not, but its just my WILDEST dreams, devs said that teno is feature complete and they will not change anything about it

and 1.6t is imo perfect

[woven bane]

1,950 elder teno seems more reasonable

[leaden bronze]

I am not getting dominated by some dam ceras, i always kill them like 70% of time and the rest 30% is dying during the fight and my game crashing in fight for no reason I CHECKED LIKE 68 TIMES IDK WHY IT CRASHES

[thick summit]

Sure

And that's why you want Carno buffs so it can kill ceras easily

I main Carno and I'm glad cera is a challenge

Honestly, I don't even bother with them most of the time

If they want my food I just leave

[leaden bronze]

I die moslt bc of charge bites spam

It was meant to be defensive

[thick summit]

I don't die to charged bites because I just walk away

[woeful latch]

i think it will be like 2t since it’s 25% increase

but i guess we’ll see

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-evrima-kaperoo-dryosaurus-deinosuchus-gif-25343537

[thick summit]

You do realise cera is slow

Cera is op because it can hunt big prey even though it shouldn't

Cera is supposed to do great against other carnivores

[normal shuttle]

^

literally designed to perform well against basically every single carni of its size, below or even a little above

[icy lion]

@round bay The steam page will be remade when evrima becomes the default branch

[round bay]

isn't that kind of misleading? and theres plenty of content that can be used

[icy lion]

When you buy the game and install it for the first time, you download legacy

[round bay]

but what are the devs updating and what do we tell everyone to play?

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

@normal steeple I’m mostly neutral on the issue (I have my own idea for optimal [ for the dilo and broader game]venom)

But I don’t really think that the clones vanishing is a huge issue. While it could help to mask the damage you take, it likely wouldn’t make a huge difference.

I think making dilo do recused/capped[as in not stacking, or stacking less] damage but having the clones not deal it could work as well or better, since hitting clones would be a “waste” of time

[compact sequoia]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EeWOzl81-WI?si=0hMMww61q9qkQmvV

this video is literally proof why the hitbox problem only gives advantage to the larger dinos

the diblo completely missed in real but the hit system registered hit

[frank tapir]

@queen mortar what was said?

[frank tapir]

hmm ok, thanks

[eternal moss]

@mellow maple id rather rex have more bland colors. it gives it more of an ambush vibe

[mellow maple]

see but I want more colors. Because I swear I've seen some cool rexes with more interest colors while still looking immersive

I'll add that currently a lot of skins are being cooked by peeps rn. And they're prettty good. I'm just in favor giving them just a little bit more to work with.

[inland hawk]

Exatly what I was going to say. Nobody wants a bright pink t-rex. But we do need more color variation. Dark purples, dark greens, dark blues and maybe dark orange not just for t-rex either. For example, herra has a dark purple marking color you can choose that doesn't look super unatural and gives the skin a subtle pop of color.

[dawn hound]

@young lintel #general-feedback message I really get your suggestion, and I agree with it, but there is one thing. Only because carno has things that are bigger than itself on its diet doesnt necessarily mean it has to hunt them, or that it has to hunt them at the prey's full growth. Carno can hunt the baby version of these given dinosaurs, or can stumble upon a corpse of these given dinosaurs.

[young lintel]

honestly, i see what you mean so i guess we can keep it on there. but they should definitely ad the dilo as it's diet as lines again lol

[dawn hound]

we def need goat to lines tho

[young lintel]

also definitely that. it's honestly a little bit weird that the carnivores don't have all diets on their diet list. growing a juvi carno is really tough and only gets better at 25% because then you can kill boars

[dawn hound]

This might be controvertial, but I think ai shouldnt give as much nutrition to the player the more growth the player's dinosaur has.

[young lintel]

that is honestly completely fine, just like fruits should give you WAY more diet than the whole plant itself does. when you eat AI as a 50% you dont eat it for growth anymore

[primal venture]

has there ever been talk of a in-game clock? or some way to tell time other then memorizing the schedule?

[urban flax]

There is an in-game clock

[primal venture]

🤦‍♂️ im blind.

[bronze matrix]

#general-feedback message @haughty folio
Idk if they fixed it in HT but you dont have to dig. Just press the "Grab" button when you get the digging prompt.

[woven mesa]

Will we ever get better anti cheat?

Feels like a waste of my time only to be killed unfairly by a hacker who cant play a dino game legitimately.

[frank tapir]

@gentle lichen #general-feedback message The sound traps aren't heard by other players, but the bush sounds are

[gentle lichen]

Useless lile i said.
Plus nobody asked foe bushsounds. Cant even go to the toilet in peace now anymore or what.

[desert arch]

People have been asking for anti afk bush camping mechanics for years now 😐

[limber hull]

lmao "no one asked for it" is a terrible argument to decide if something was worth adding

also, yes, people asked for it

in fact this very idea has been made YEARS ago by the community

unfortunately, you will inevitably be forced to play the game

[frank tapir]

it's not useless, it tells you where people are if you're near them

[limber hull]

it also prevents people from turning the game off and just not playing it

god forbid you play before reaching adult lmao

[muted flare]

If they remove bush sound, then they should add bush movement like it was in legacy.

Or make the sound of the bushes quieter.

[barren crater]

The bush sounds don't play when you're sitting though?

The audio plays as long as you're turning or moving around in bushes

[limber hull]

no there's like this weird squaking sound when you stay in there too long

it sounds a lot like pterodactylus

[barren crater]

Really? I was camping in it for a bit and didn't notice huh

😁 if so that's neat

[limber hull]

i swear to god it's there it's EXTREMELY distinct from the other bush sounds

it sounds like a ptero

[barren crater]

You could be right. I just didn't notice it.

Regardless, I don't see the issue either way

[limber hull]

Here it is. Sounds a ton like a ptero right
https://youtu.be/YOqB-hXCxx8?t=184

sorry i forgot to timestammp

there we go

[barren crater]

sick

Why is that an issue?

[limber hull]

I assume it interrupts AFK gaming

[tropic cipher]

hate the stupid diet changes for herbis. thats the worst idea ever. i got server reset and my diet went from like 20 things to 5 and i cant find food anyhere. absolute usless mechanic

[bronze matrix]

I actually wanted to ask this for a long time
what's the point of sound traps? or rather whats the plan for them?
They seem extremely useless and honestly weird

[barren crater]

Lol

[limber hull]

like imma be real there's no reason to hate this change unless you were one of those people who played this game to reach 100% adult and deathmatch

[barren crater]

Should do scent clouds with the scent ui change if you afk for 5 minutes

[limber hull]

Scent UI changes please

I genuinely miss old scent. New scent isn't half as cool or immersive

(coming from a guy who has never had a sense of smell lmao)

[barren crater]

Best feature from older evrima

[limber hull]

when i imagine what smelling is like, I think of U3 scent

idk if that's sad or what but it's how it is lmao

[barren crater]

yeah. I also want to have my hud off lol

[barren crater]

wait actual

[limber hull]

yea fr

not joking, i dont have a sense of smell at all

[barren crater]

Ever?

My bad just never heard of that wow

[limber hull]

i think i remember smelling cake, but it was so long ago idk if i was just trying to fit in or i actually smelt it. i don't even remember the actual smell

might've gaslit myself on that one

[barren crater]

Don't know what to say. Only times I've heard of people struggling to scent stuff was during covid

[limber hull]

watching people lose their minds over losing their sense of smell was kinda funny to me ngl

[gentle lichen]

Yeah and thats one problem when you try to hide from somebody as a troodon for example. That was one of the tricks that troodon uses. Attack, hide, attack hide.

[limber hull]

it's not that big a deal. there's advantages to not being able to smell ANYTHING. You can do a lot of gross dirty work other people would find repulsive and not even flinch lmao

if i were to choose to lose any sense, it'd probably be scent all over again lmao

[barren crater]

yk what fair enough

[wooden agate]

some people can lose their ability to taste/smell permentantly due to sickness but id assume you could also just be born like that

like that one guy who eats everything with mustard just so he can feel the slight spicy tingle of mustard in his mouth

[barren crater]

😭

[limber hull]

but yea, genuinely, EVRIMA U3 scent is what my brain IMAGINES smelling to be like. IDK if that's Isle brainrot or what but it genuinely was one of my favourite underrated features just for that reason

[bronze matrix]

I'm someone that gets the biggest gag reflex from even the smallest hint of a weird smell

[limber hull]

its one of my most missed features

[limber hull]

im the dude who got dared to put his head into a locker full of rotting fruit and got 10 dollars out of it because i didn't notice the difference lmao

(high school)

[frank tapir]

they are wip, hopefully in the future smaller creatures make very little noise

[bronze matrix]

if I had to describe smell, I would just point at the wavefront algorithm

[limber hull]

now i gotta look that up lmao

[barren crater]

^ Honestly better to suggest things under X weight should be able to run through bushes silently

[limber hull]

yes please

i think the below 300kg mark would be good

or make the rustle VERY subtle on lil dudes

[frank tapir]

do we know if the changes to footstep noises will be in this hordetest?

[tropic cipher]

how is an herbi gonna go from like 15 items on the diet to only 5. that's absolutely ridiculous. worst mechanic in the game for sure. especially when im in the "coastal" area but the food type isnt around. number 1 reason i only play carnivores anymore.

[brittle lake]

isnt already changed?

[bronze matrix]

idk if they changed anything during HT but herbivore diets are extremely forgiving
you need to use patrol zones:
If you dont have a patrol zone, go near the closest batch of non nutrient plants and the patrol zone will spawn ontop of it.
If the patrol zone spawns it will unlock all the nutrients in that biom (not just in that zone).
If you are in a herd, you can dissolve and reform the herd to reset the patrol zone and have it spawn at the location you want

it is meta-gaming but the best way to maximize your nutrients as a herbivore

[frank tapir]

I thought they'd just mentioned going to change it to be weight based instead of growth, have they changed it already?

[brittle lake]

Ah idk im not a expert but it sounds different than evrima. Playing carno rn

[bronze matrix]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1360550018078998549 @dawn hound
Cool suggestion! A few questions tho:

• How long would that blinking last?
• Would saltrocks play a role in removing that blinking?
• Would dinosaurs that can eat rotten flesh also suffer from that dirty water effect?

[dawn hound]

1. I didnt give it a specific time, but I think it should be maybe until the player drinks a fair amount of clean water like from a river or a lake? The waterholes are ment to be for travel, so players take a sip and then continue on, but if there wouldnt be a system like this, people will just hoard onto these locations so they can be safe from crocodiles.

2. No, it would not. Simply because people can just go find a puddle thats near a salt rock, and then they could stay there forever, no matter if food is like a kilometer away. Again, no risk from crocodiles. However, you can repair the vomit sickness, but the water will still be blicking until you drink a fair amount of fresh water as i said before.

3.Yes, they would.

I like when people give me questions surrounding my suggestion, so thank you.

[latent olive]

@dawn hound i like the drawing and stegosaurus JPEG lmao

[dawn hound]

thanks lol

[light bronze]

yo guys in my evrima it says that my anti cheat isnt instaled, can anyone help me?

[dawn hound]

I think people can help you in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 , since this is more of like a discussion channel about suggestions.

[light bronze]

k thanks tho

[mystic aurora]

dam dillo clones dont work half the time rip

bloody cera toke 0 dmg from 4 dillo spamming

[wooden agate]

@misty maple i cant speak for the rest, but rex patterns are coming. we've seen pattern B and C before :P

[misty maple]

oh yea i know but i was hoping for them to be in the skin creator but they aint so i said that

[wooden agate]

fair enough

[normal shuttle]

The comparison bruh 😭

[hexed sandal]

#general-feedback message and Maia

[wooden agate]

@gentle lichen they literally just added a massive plains area #general-feedback message

[normal shuttle]

Bro

New SP looks amazing

I just hope my laptop can run it just as good as the live branch and it doesn’t have the same lag spikes as HT

Also bush sound is great to make stealth more interesting

[frank tapir]

I need ptera to explore

[hexed sandal]

#general-feedback message Same with swimming, stam goes way too fast

@eternal moss #general-feedback message

[eternal moss]

LMAO

🤓

[dawn hound]

@true kindle #general-feedback message Surely, it gets annoying to have extremely loud weather in the game, and if the game gave us quieter weather, it wouldve been good. But giving us the ability to downscale the volume of weather and the rest of the ambience seperately just destroys the point of weather. Weather is ment to make up for a good hunting time for some carnivores since the prey is less likely to hear them.

[true kindle]

That's actually a fair point. Never thought of it that way, but when you sitting quietly stalking prey and all of a sudden a large thunder sounds and nearly deafens you. It would be coolnif that wasn't so loud and then scaled up in loudness as you say.

[dawn hound]

I gotta agree that the weather is way too loud, and that it happens uncommonly even on tropical islands. By my opinion downscaling the weather volume itself would make it great, but i think that the thunder is kinda ment to scare you, just like it does in real life.

the devs should decrease the weather volume

[true kindle]

Lmao yeah that's true. And maybe have it so it not so much a rain simulator either. Even 2 hours it rains for an hour. Stagger it a bit please.

[gentle lichen]

And took it somewhere else instead of just adding one

[wooden agate]

the new area is like 2x bigger than west access was

you objectively have more plains now

[gentle lichen]

They also took east back then. And it was huge as well

Sp always were plains. They took more than they added

[thick summit]

It's always looked like that #general-feedback message

[wooden agate]

yes, the hilly area that offered pretty much nothing was removed

now we have a nice sized lake, several PZ's around it, a cave that can be used for multiple purposes, and a more intuitive path through it

instead of "this is leg break central lol"

not to mention the area above the previous east plains got turned into plains as well lol

[dawn hound]

why do bees look like this

😭

[limber hull]

bee

[wooden agate]

moth bees r so funny but i agree the sprite should probably be a bit more bee like

i dont care if theyre super cartoony with very obvious black and yellow coloring

[normal shuttle]

Genetically modified

[dawn hound]

genetically modified emojis

[normal shuttle]

Like dinosaurs

Their stingers are so hard they can pierce through the skin of a starving deinosuchus

And the unlucky gator must spend 30 minutes healing

If you know you know

[dawn hound]

If a croc legits just follows you into a sanctuary, what stuff was he on?

[normal shuttle]

if you know, you know

Sammy knows 100%

[junior nymph]

@left kernel Wdym

[unreal drum]

is it just me or it seems that the rex's bottom section of the belly is unaffected by the change of colors?

[junior nymph]

they have not changed any other plains to be jungle apart from east

[unreal drum]

it always remain that sort of rosè color

[wooden agate]

west access sorta changed to be less plains and more forest-esque

its less forest than actual forest, its more of a mix between plains and forest now

[junior nymph]

its just bushes

[wooden agate]

but we also got like 1/5th of the map transformed into a savannah

so this is a change im fine with lol

[junior nymph]

I personally prefer the changes

[wooden agate]

i havent been up there personally so ive only seen what was in kouga's video

[junior nymph]

im there rn

[wooden agate]

new west access

@cold crater they arent meant to support deinosuchus that are above a certain %

the apex needs to hunt players to survive, not rely on AI

[junior nymph]

actually so true

[wooden agate]

now deino does have issues when it comes to player interactivity and that effects how well its ability to hunt players, which does need to be addressed but thats a different conversation

but im holding out hope deino kit rework will save the day

[snow mesa]

rex needs to go see a dentist with that overbite

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message who is “we”

[junior nymph]

they removed this whole jungle lol

[wooden agate]

thank god

[woven bane]

how does it look like now

[wooden agate]

la savannah

tons of bushes, very flat, a couple of mudpools (drinkable and shallow, i could wade through them as troodon)

[woven bane]

sounds fire

[junior nymph]

its so sick

"guys we need less jungle" well less jungle

[woven bane]

i wouldn’t mind less jungle if its replaced with something neat, most people though, they want flat plains like on spiro

[woeful latch]

there’s also a water source

[junior nymph]

oh what we got was PEAK

like my one of my favs spots on the map, all the HT map changes have been soo good

[woeful latch]

oh wait a second, there’s so many rex overbite feedbacks👹 this is about the get serious hehehe

but honestly i’d like to hear why people like the way current rex looks like

[wooden agate]

i just dont see the overbite

the only time i ever saw rex overbite was when filipe showed us his screenshot

it also doesnt help that every screenshot of rex is at this wack ass angle

[wooden agate]

"clearly rex has a itty bitty tail"

[fast terrace]

i dont know why people dont like the rex model
its been almost the same since 2016 theres no reason to change it

[wooden agate]

its the exact same model thats in legacy right now

rex model changed over the years in legacy, but this is the same model from current legacy

its been rerigged and has different animations of course, it has to be compatiable with EVRIMA's movement and attack systems

#general-feedback message isnt pteranodon on herrera diet

[leaden bronze]

@normal shuttle just bc u hate me?

[wooden agate]

also pteranodon has a safe spot

its called the sky

[fast terrace]

😱

[leaden bronze]

Where can u lay down?

U dumb or smth?

[fast terrace]

if youre getting caught by herras then thats your own self awareness problem

[wooden agate]

oh i see. youre not actually interested in solutions but you want to insult

[fast terrace]

😭

[leaden bronze]

Heavy rain at no moon night goodluck sensing them

[wooden agate]

frankly im not going to be called dumb by the person who cant find a place to rest as pteranodon on an absolutely massive map. the call is coming from inside the house

[leaden bronze]

NESTING

[fast terrace]

again..?
you shouldnt be sitting under trees as ptera dude go find a highspot

[leaden bronze]

cant u guys even read?

[wooden agate]

so find good places to nest that rarely have herreras

[leaden bronze]

On trees

[wooden agate]

its up to you to find good spots to nest, not have your handheld by artificially safe areas

[leaden bronze]

Herras can climb pal

[fast terrace]

damn i didnt know that

[normal shuttle]

no, because it seems absurd to me to say that when no ptera is ever gonna die to herras unless they are looking for it or try to fight

You have so many trees in this giant jungle, alongside all of the rocks and mountains to latch on and just press one button to escape when you see them slowly climbing towards you

[fast terrace]

^^

[leaden bronze]

Heavy rain no moon night...

[wooden agate]

you can also become saltwater pteranodon and go nest on islands lol

[leaden bronze]

Just a single tower

[leaden bronze]

Full of herras

[wooden agate]

and you called me dumb

[leaden bronze]

Not just bc of your pfp pal

[wooden agate]

explain to me quickly how a herrera gets here

it cant swim, herrera has awful swimming stamina

[fast terrace]

youre more likely to see flying deinos than a herra there dude

[wooden agate]

or these two islands

considering the water is deep enough to force herrera to swim

[leaden bronze]

I found 2 there, so probly had enought stamina

[wooden agate]

but yes.... infested with herreras

[urban flax]

What threat is a herrera with no tree to climb on anyway

[leaden bronze]

And how tf are u even gonna find food there?

[wooden agate]

YOU CAN FLY

fly to river delta dam and eat a turtle, catch a fish

[leaden bronze]

And?

[wooden agate]

its not a far flight????

[normal shuttle]

hill jumper herra. But there's like 4 herras who do that in the entire community so it's okay

[wooden agate]

this is the worst skill issue ive ever seen actually oh my god

[leaden bronze]

So gonna lose 60% of stamina every time i wanna eat?

[wooden agate]

so you dont even know how to fly properly as pteranodon

[leaden bronze]

And become a herras prey? Bc i have to lay down?

[fast terrace]

😭 vro

[wooden agate]

because if that trip takes 60% of your stamina, you actually suck at stamina management

you can get over to river delta dam from those islands with 80%+ stamina

[normal shuttle]

bro, did you just die to a herra?

If you played enough pteranodon, you should know the biggest threats you have are beipi and troodon unironically

No ptera is ever gonna get caught unless they are clueless and sitting on a place where they can be jumped (and they don't look around) or not choosing to fly as soonas they see one close

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-aizen-anime-rage-baiting-gif-16854649340389048028

[fast terrace]

i think youre the one ragebaiting

[wooden agate]

oh you need video proof dont you

[woeful latch]

meow

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[wooden agate]

either that or youre flat out ragebaiting because i refuse to believe someone can be that bad as pteranodon

[leaden bronze]

Your charisma is out of this world

[woeful latch]

thank you

[wooden agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1142931819776442548/1224488778035626014/togif-6-2.gif

[leaden bronze]

Average underage discord user

Cya!

[wooden agate]

complains about their own skill issue
fails to explain why its not actually a skill issue
proves they suck at managing stamina
refuse to elaborate

the isle community never changes

hey guys i stood still and let a cerato attack my FG rex and.... i died? after 20 minutes??? broken game......................

[woeful latch]

yeah, i used to hate legacy rex too

[leaden bronze]

Lacking parental figure arent you?

[wooden agate]

no but the children youre failing to nest in because you suck at pteranodon are

[normal shuttle]

I did the experiment not once, but twice.

I made a race from about the same spot. Gallimimus vs Pteranodon. both fresh spawns with efficient digestion and the goal was to keep moving around the island until they ran out of stam or starved to death.

I spawned at water access with both and started counting. Galli could run for 18 minutes and ptera fly for over 19. Galli ran out of stam after reaching south plains and going down the whole delta and also crossing the entire swamp coastline

Ptera ran out of stam as a freshspawn when it was already well beyond the west access lake, almost doing a full lap to the island with no breaks

PTERA FLIGHT IS INSANE

[leaden bronze]

Yea find a job pal, ragebaiting wont get u any money

[wooden agate]

and being awful at pteranodon gets you in a discord server airing your skill issue out to everyone

its that shrimple

[leaden bronze]

What is wrong in 3 towers placed?

[woeful latch]

(imo) it just looks goofy.. i personally found that funny instead of scary…
i feel like i hate it even more because it looks too JP-ish

[mellow maple]

I lined it up a sue skeletal. It's just the tip of the maxilla that's too far forward

[urban flax]

People who resort to insults before arguing all share something in common
However I can't really put my finger on what it is

[wooden agate]

why should the game artificially hold your hand because you fail to find proper nesting areas

[leaden bronze]

On your left brain side there is nothing right, and on your right side there is nothing left

[mellow maple]

The dentary bone is almost perfect but the front of the top jaw is pulled so far forward

[woeful latch]

no doubt some people like the current rex design, it’s just not what i personally like i guess

[normal shuttle]

Carno, Saif

Can you please elaborate on HOW is herrerasaurus that big of a deal to a human being with functional eyes, ears and hands playing pteranodon in The Isle with volume on?

[wooden agate]

https://tenor.com/view/repost-if-pet-shark-pet-shark-petting-shark-reaction-gif-7150063724420258475

[leaden bronze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969040338704560186/1133435242645033151/attachment.gif

[fast terrace]

taking a poke at someones personal life just because they disagreed with your suggestion is crazy

[mellow maple]

I've seen more impressive ones these days. This is a really old model and it kinda holds up. But newer ones are just downright impressive and scary while isle kinda lagged behind imo

[normal shuttle]

stop raging brother. Looking up and being aware of where most herras camp is the only safe spot you need

[mellow maple]

This is the same rex over 5 years ago

[leaden bronze]

Dude how tf are u seing a herra slowly climbing onto your tree when u cant hear and you're blind?

[normal shuttle]

also saying I hated him because I was like one of the quickest to downvote as soon as I saw a request to give safe spots to a creature who can peacefully live almost anywhere

[fast terrace]

the isle has always been a hard game, and will continue to be a hard game
people have to adapt /shrug

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-rage-bait-jarvis-clip-that-jarvis-meme-gif-11046632004782930587

[normal shuttle]

I don't put myself in a place where I am clearly visible and I stay quiet until 21:00 or 03:00 are over and I can finally see

and that is how I avoid getting jumped

[leaden bronze]

Jumped? U clearly cant read or cant speak english properly

[icy lion]

Knock it off or be muted

[normal shuttle]

there's literal tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of trees and rocks in gateway

you can hide in the middle of nowhere to regain your stam without typing in chat

[leaden bronze]

How long? 🌯

[wooden agate]

huh now that i think about it i wonder how many trees there actually are

[normal shuttle]

no one will ever find you at the top of a random tree

[wooden agate]

quick, someone rip gateway from the files and find out

[leaden bronze]

I am eating a kebab rn

[fast terrace]

someone counted the trees in dayz but nobody is counting the trees in evrima

[wooden agate]

one day ™️

i wonder if anyone has counted the trees in skyrim

[fast terrace]

unless you got the terrain editor open and selected everything then idk

[mellow maple]

@icy lion we need to talk >:[

[normal shuttle]

funny because "getting jumped" could also perfectly mean being attacked by something without the need of dropping down from a high place

[wooden agate]

https://tenor.com/view/ernie-talking-gif-24143859

[normal shuttle]

I used the perfect word to counter that

[icy lion]

'Bout what?

[wooden agate]

how amazing hypsi is perhaps

[normal shuttle]

but that's besides the point

with due respect and love and non sarcastic affection, git gud

[leaden bronze]

Looking at the fact that herras main abbility is jumping from high place proves your bad at properly creating sentenses

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

ive noticed this with alot of the eyes and yah, they definitely seem off. most animals also blink sideways/dont close their eyes when sleeping which uh... can be interesting

sentenses....

as opposed to sentences....

[icy lion]

We're done here

[normal shuttle]

not really, I just used slang. But as said, that's besides the point-

[wooden agate]

ctually hold on i have the best screenshot of this

[woeful latch]

also did you know that all the dinos blink at the same times? don’t ask me why i know that..

[thick summit]

well, they're right though

[wooden agate]

i...

[woeful latch]

😔

[wooden agate]

okay cheesy? thats... ominous

anyway heres my sleeping triceratops looking deader than doornail

[normal shuttle]

lmao

[woeful latch]

😳😳😳

[wooden agate]

please close their eyes 😭

[normal shuttle]

looks drugged

[wooden agate]

hes clearly in pain

[woeful latch]

all the eyes are connected, i bet that’s the reason why they can’t close

[normal shuttle]

he knows omni pin is a thing...

[urban flax]

Thousand Life Contract

[woeful latch]

because if they close the eyes every other dino on the server will close the eyes

[normal shuttle]

also yeah that rex eye is so uncanny

tbf eye color customization is kinda cursed. Makes so many eyes look human

[onyx spruce]

GG Au1 Stego, held out for a week it felt like.

[normal shuttle]

interesting critique of feedback

[fast terrace]

that actually might be a good disguise if it didnt make noise

[wooden agate]

hes regretting his contract and misses his family (who may or may not be dead due to climate change or something idk)

[normal shuttle]

playable pterodactylus in survival

pls

[urban flax]

His Lineage has been displaced (to a better place)

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message are we feeling any different about this with the troodon speed nerfs on juvies or should i keep it in the vault

[normal shuttle]

taking troo away from the carnivore roster would be peak

no longer carni slop

[wooden agate]

i think it would be a nice contrast to the 'omnivores that are actually herbivores but can eat ai' current omnivores

[normal shuttle]

I said it before

[wooden agate]

plus i mean.... troodontids are believed to have been somewhat omnivorous

[normal shuttle]

But I will rage so hard if AVA cannot eat players

or cheirus

PLEASE make cheirus swallow small deinos

[bronze matrix]

omnivore nah
i mainly play troodon and i dont wanna forage for mushrooms

I would be more open to a insectivore niche (if that thing would even happen in the game)

[normal shuttle]

omnivore theri, I have faith in it

[fast terrace]

deinocheirus:

[normal shuttle]

yes, that one too

all of my feathered boys

also magy

[mellow maple]

Why do u hate more colors on the Rex smh

S m h

[normal shuttle]

git gud crafting a stealthy skin

[icy lion]

I like the cohesive palettes the new additions have

I also want unofficials to be able to adjust the skin selections that the dinos have

[mellow maple]

A reasonable opinion??

How can this be

[normal shuttle]

impossible

[urban flax]

I do think higher pattern variety > higher color variety tbh

Animals of a same species usually have very similar colors but different patterns

[normal shuttle]

we need trike's butterfly pattern

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

it should just be a system where drinking stops being possible as the whole has”dried” up (nothing is left).

This would make them potentially fought over little resources

@dawn hound basically I’m saying I think they should have a limited water supply, and this should be tied to the puddles, not the players. Even if they make the puddle muddier as it gets emptier

[woeful tide]

Your website's email doesn't work, what's the current one?

[sonic tangle]

Rex needs and trike need more colors. Or at least more male display colors.

[sonic tangle]

Also Rex lips look amazing.

[dire bear]

Nah it looks goofy

I thought the isle is supposed to be a horror game

[bronze matrix]

Some people don't want rex to have lips and some do
I want rex to have really luscious lips
if i don't feel anything looking at a rex, it's waste

[dire bear]

Real rex is way more scary idk why the devs just dont go with that instead of being a jurassic park knock off but whatever ig

#general-feedback message

Bro i cant 😂

[eternal moss]

@quartz meteor stego is the opposite of underpowered. the damage to stam ratio is reasonable. have you not seen what a stego can do to a trike on ht?

and stego does NOT need a damage buff, it 1 taps everything except maia, deino, and dib

[sonic tangle]

They are not going to do a big remake of the Rex model because if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. They aren’t being a Jurassic park knock off.

[limber hull]

Deino can one-tap everything besides another deino (and trike too now I guess)

IDK he has a point. Stego's powerswing costs WAYYY too much stam given powerswing will be necessary to survive against a T-Rex

Hell, powerswing itself is carried by tactical endurance. Remove that and powerswing is ptetty trash ngl

[cyan flame]

Can stego actually fight trike, now that it has sparring and everything, cause I've seen some where a solo trike takes on two stegos and does just fine?

[woeful latch]

yeah there's 0 chance they will actually change the rex model. but i still believe. tho i disagree about the JP part, i wouldnt really call it knock off, but its definitely heavily inspired

[woeful latch]

i highly doubt that, i dont see a stego winning that realistically

[limber hull]

also yea if you're losing trike v stego 1v1s on HT, that's not indicative of stego's strength but rather the trike's incompetence lmao

[cyan flame]

Agreed, I wouldn't be surprised if you can take on two, or at least killing one before going down

[vital laurel]

@torn plinth id add that it will be a meta to clans that will use it to boost their friends as babies

[torn plinth]

good idea. people forget how clan infested this game is

[sonic tangle]

I love the little water puddles disappearing and reappearing after rain

Should be in game

[manic yew]

Ok seriously first Maia, then Trike now Rex, 3 dinos in a row with super limited color options. There were no issues giving dibble and all the previous playable plenty of colors so what gives?

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

Sorry, I couldnt resist

[eternal moss]

if you know how to play stego v trike good, then yes, its possible with sparring

[eternal moss]

unless you're talking about drowning things, deino cannot one tap everything

[cyan flame]

Huh, alright then

[eternal moss]

well, i havent seen any videos lately of stegos doing it, so idk

[lucid mauve]

Cant stego just walk/run away?

[cyan flame]

It can, the matchup is fine, it's just that they claimed stegos could fight trikes, but I'm not so sure on that, especially now that trike has sparring and all

[lucid mauve]

Ahh ok, i was hoping trike would whop the stego with ease tho. Not cus its much stronger,just bad matchup

[quartz meteor]

When is stego getting sparring?

[cyan flame]

It's not? That's for dibble/trike/rex, for now at least

[raven sky]

Trike does whop stego hard. It can easily stunlock it to death

[wooden agate]

i was a little worried for stego when trike came out but honestly stego can just hold W and get away from trike incredibly easy

"what if trike knocks me over before-" i dont cARE

[woeful latch]

well now you can still run away, they fixed the stun lock (i think)

[pliant elm]

dibble, trike and stego getting up faster from a knockdown than carno 😭

[woeful latch]

omni recovers in like 0.50 seconds lol😭

[normal shuttle]

Also I got news about the latest update

Besides stego now having quicker knockdown recovery, it literally grows in like half of the time trike does under the same conditions lmfao

Although trike can keep a laughably high growth boost for longer but even then in practice it takes like 2 hours more to grow than steg

At least

So steg and deino are gonna grow at the speed of light compared to Rex and Trike

Been playing for like 90 minutes at least and I am currently on 170% diet, slowly ramping up since 4% or so

And I am 16% growth lmao

[lucid mauve]

What weight you on now?

[normal shuttle]

1300kg

[lucid mauve]

Ahh ok

[normal shuttle]

I feel like they changed that growth curve too

[lucid mauve]

So you can fight smaller stuff atm im guessing

[normal shuttle]

Yes

Although with the new controls trike is also gonna be high skill floor and cap

[lucid mauve]

Its like dibble right?

[normal shuttle]

We can agree that’s best for an apex, right?

[normal shuttle]

They changed it for both ceratopsians but trike is more punishing due to slower recoveries, less drifting, slower speed (although this trike is pretty quick already) and the gore animation taking that long

So bad trikes are prolly gonna get murdered by ceras more easily than stegos lol

[lucid mauve]

Honestly, i hope rex etc is not high skill floor. Should be easy attacks, but hard to get close. So not eveything is omni style fighting

I mean old people also play these games, cant have a 18 yr reacting time lol

I hope some are more easy at fighting but harder at other things,survival etc

[normal shuttle]

Oh I am very happy with the new bushes

I am assuming you haven’t played latest update of HT, but you remember those green bushes in highlands that are everywhere and are pretty tall, and there’s also different variants of them?

Now they’re all over the island (although less in the plains) and when you touch them they make noise of twigs snapping and leaves moving, meaning that they’re obstacle where you just can’t get inside to stalk someone, but instead carefully approach something as you dodge the bushes that could give away your location

Slowly creeping your way around them. So I think that’s gonna be neat for Rex and making ambushes harder to pull off

[neat swan]

Can anyone who likes the map changes that added more trees tell me why? I honestly don´t get how that is something positive

[normal shuttle]

Good because now there’s map consistency, more hiding spots while still allowing things like carno to thrive, and the new bushes everywhere are great to make larger rexes more skillful

[thick summit]

The south was basically expanded and it's just way more interesting than an open area

[normal shuttle]

Also pretty in many areas

[normal shuttle]

Also this ^ south plains was just an expanse of nothingness before that

[neat swan]

the map is like 80% forest already why add even more? There is more than enough places to hide tbh. It will just force people more together, because most people don´t want to play in a forest where they can see 15 m and don´t find anybody

[neat swan]

I agree about the bushes though. Them making noise is nice

[normal shuttle]

Its great

[neat swan]

but it destroys other ares that are now not really seen anymore by being covered in trees. some variety would just be very nice imo

[normal shuttle]

Wish they add more similar hazards

I also feel like some at random (or maybe they have a detail I didn’t notice) sometimes do the noise of a fleeing bird or pterodactylus against the branches as it takes off when you touch the plant and it is much noisier than the crunching twig one

To be fair highlands still maintains most of its identify despite being greener, and it is a nice thing even for carno that the plains aren’t just flat open areas for the most part

Cuz now you can actually hide

[neat swan]

there were like 2-3 kind of wide open areas. Imo you could just go somewhere else if you wanted to hide. But adding some hiding spots in those areas is different than just adding a bunch of trees imo

[icy lion]

@pliant elm Read rule 11

[pliant elm]

Bro xd

@icy lion Can you please undo the deletion?

I did not pass on any misinformation, on the contrary, it was my opinion.

[icy lion]

It was misinformation being passed off as an opinion

[pliant elm]

Oh sure, saying that based on my 1300 hours of gameplay is completely nonsensical.

But that's okay, I don't want to be banned from the server because of this xd

[wooden agate]

i think the misinformation was the "in my opinion, the devs do not play their own game or read feedback"

which would be misinformation because they do. i didnt see the rest of the message though

[pliant elm]

Well, do you disagree with what I said there?

[normal shuttle]

Wait

What did you say?

[normal shuttle]

Actually that?

And yeah I’ve seen Dondi playing and getting killed by players without any stream on 😭 😭 😭

[pliant elm]

In the rest of the message I said about how dead east plains and that whole part of the map is after the addition of the swamp and all those Trees

And this will happen with west rail, with this addition of trees in hordtest, too

Players want flat areas to interact with, limiting this by placing trees all over the map will only make them stay in one spot even more.

[lucid mauve]

They should just remove all threes and bushes now,cant even use them for avoiding or ambushing. Can just walk out in the open like a idiot

[pliant elm]

Unnecessary changes, that nobody asked for, that there was no reason to make, that only ruin the gameplay, but that were added anyway...

[lucid mauve]

Yea,just makes everything worse.

[normal shuttle]

Bruh

also talking as if it was a universal truth that it ruined everything

Map changes are great and they’re gonna accommodate mega theropods and apexes perfectly

[lucid mauve]

It does,dont even need to worry about getting ambushed. Cus i need to get a heads up from a bush sound

And beeing stealthy is a great playstyle for those who like it. Takes patience and skill,also good for solos who wanne avoid and know what they getting into before an ambush

[normal shuttle]

South plains in the live branch are so ass because even as a pachy I can just stroll around perfectly fine and no one will ever ambush me unless it is a troodon or a hypsi

At least now not only ambushes are easier due to more cover, but also HARDER because the cover itself works against you

In short, map changes encourage prey awareness and more skill in the ambusher’s approach. Good game design

[lucid mauve]

No, it encourges dumb play style to be awarded. Beeing in the open and loudly. Shouldt have a warning for an ambush.

[normal shuttle]

[lilac bolt]

Just because nobody asked for it doesn't mean they can't add it? we don't have any say in decisions made for the game simple as that

[lucid mauve]

Skill for the ambusher? I mean if i see you in the open. And manages to sneak up on you. Then your the one who didnt pay attention.

[pliant elm]

Oh, of course, because we clearly needed an addition where you make noise if you stand inside a bush xd

[normal shuttle]

We did

Good addition with an upcoming giant ambush hunter

[lucid mauve]

Why not add a sound for deino aswell before it grabs while they are on it

[normal shuttle]

Git gud

[lucid mauve]

Dont need to be i get a warning

[cyan flame]

Having to maybe move between bushes, rather than through them, could be interesting

[normal shuttle]

Yup, exactly what I thought seeing them

[pliant elm]

If this only affected Rex it wouldn't make much difference, but now you can't stay inside a bush, even if it's as small as a Carno, because you'll make noise lying down and still xd

[normal shuttle]

Okay, don’t sit in a bush then, sit behind it or between many. Problem solved

[lucid mauve]

I actually tried ambushing one for fun today,playing as i was rex. I couldt even walk around the bushes. Unless i spent 20 min going around the whole forest

[pliant elm]

Oh my god, man xd

[cyan flame]

Treat bushes more like trees and rocks I guess, can't go through, so go around. I'm sure you can work with it. And you can still go through, just making a bit of noise, but that can probable be used, especially if you're in a coordinated pack.

[normal shuttle]

u need practice

imagine how cracked rexes will be doing that as adults

[gentle flint]

@slate falcon it’s possible they were injured from hunger/thirst before you touched them? But if you think its a bug you should report it here #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[lucid mauve]

Practice what? Like you can remove bushes or something.

[pliant elm]

Of course, they are both extremely similar to be treated equally

[normal shuttle]

practice your strategic movement and have different routes planned before jumping into the action. Think a step ahead

in short, git gud

[pliant elm]

Making noise when moving through a bush was a nice addition, but making noise while standing in the bush? Completely unnecessary.

[normal shuttle]

dont stand inside the bush !!!

no longer a thing you can do

now you gotta work on those hiding spots

[cyan flame]

Not what I said, was it? Just pointing out that you can most certainly work with the new bushes, since you could already use trees and rocks for cover. And you can still use the bushes, just more carefully or from a further distance perhaps. And if there's the whole noise when in a bush for too long, hide behind it, that should still work if the target comes from the other direction.

[pliant elm]

Wow, how did I not think of that? I'm running away from something, why not lie down to recover right in his field of vision. You're a genius

[lucid mauve]

Lol dont stand in a bush. I said i couldt psyhicly move anywhere cus it was bushes all over the place i had to go thru. Unless i went back where i came from.

[normal shuttle]

git gud son

[pliant elm]

Why not make it even easier by having a footprint system that indicates your exact position?

[cyan flame]

Funny, currently playing a roblox dino game where you do actually leave scent when sitting, be glad they're not doing that so far xD

[normal shuttle]

it's okay to have a skill issue with something new that changes a basic part of gameplay. Without any intent to sound condescending, but we gotta acknowledge that: the jungle and thick vegetation is no longer a completely safe and free hiding haven

[lucid mauve]

Yea as an ambusher you need, but il stay as a noob in the open. Cus i will get a warning lol

[normal shuttle]

warning vs bad players, yeah. That's good

because then a good rex is gonna get you if they get a good ambush with all the visual cover around the whole map

[bronze matrix]

I actually like that idea lol

[lucid mauve]

Depends on how load the sounds are and how far they go

[normal shuttle]

assuming rex crouch is gonna be goated

[bronze matrix]

But gotta be honest tho
I like the idea behind exposing afk sitters but the execution is kinda silly
I mean what are the birds doing
why not fly away when i first move into the bush lol

[lucid mauve]

The birds are so stupid lol

[cyan flame]

Maybe they're showing up after you've sat there, being curious, then flee when they realize you're scary

[bronze matrix]

yea fair point, although they do spawn in the bush indicating they were sitting there the entire time

also in every bush

which is extra silly

[normal shuttle]

kill bush sitters

[cyan flame]

Probably just easier to spawn them like that, it was more so an immersive reason if you wanted one :D

[bronze matrix]

yeah i get that but I actually think some smell based mechanic would have been better (like the one you mentioned)
Time somebody sitting somewhere and after the time runs out you can smell the guy

[lucid mauve]

If someone wanta to sit in a bush why shouldt they? If i can sit in a bush for long periods all the time,somethings else needs to change

[bronze matrix]

or even better yet have the dinosaur fart
maybe my brain is screwed but i would actually accept that more lmao

[normal shuttle]

I mean you can

you're just gonna make noise, but nothing is stopping you

just like how I am not stopped from swimming to the center of the water access lake as a teno spamming calls when there's 10 deinos there

[lucid mauve]

The i would call that dumb, and the deinos will stop you prob. Sitting in a bush dont mean dumb move, if you can

[normal shuttle]

it is a dumb move if there's an in game feature discouraging it

[unreal ridge]

have you ever tried to walk through a bush

its a tangled mess of branches leaves and thorns

i think the new changes are a good idea, specifically since rex is what, dead silent on its feet when crouching?

you use the bushes and the foliage as a way to block line of sight, you can sprint directly through them to close distance but its recommended you walk around them to avoid the noise

I do feel like for smaller creatures like troodon the noise should be reduced honestly, im practically under it and its making loud noises

[sonic tangle]

Why is everyone complaining about rexes overbite the model has been out for years and it does not even look that bad.

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message
@acoustic spruce
Albino might be too close to the cannibal skin

[exotic walrus]

Cannibal skin?

What's the cannibal skin? I tend not to cannibalise so I don't really know much about it

[woeful latch]

it does.. its outdated JP style rex

some people like that, some dont ig

[normal shuttle]

cannibal mutations turns your skin whiter

like an albino version of the one you had to distinguish you from normal specimens

[exotic walrus]

Ah alr gotcha

I mostly just play herbi tbh

[normal shuttle]

same

[gritty heart]

it's not much of an issue, since you need the mutation, and most non default canni species don't want it (not to mention getting it can be tedious).

basically, it gives you the ability to benefit from being canni, while the skin makes it so you cant easily take advantage of trusting players (such as abusing omni or troo packs)

[exotic walrus]

The best part of this game is being big enough where you can just sit with other herbis imo. I love growing an fg stego and becoming the centre of a lil herd. Imma have to start learning trike now for that tho :(

[exotic walrus]

I didn't know it did that tbh but that's definitely good to know

[normal shuttle]

I like playing as a solo omniv/herb without herding just to flex

[cyan dagger]

anyone know how to stop the trike from doing that wierd brace attack when charging someone rather then doing the quick headbut

[normal shuttle]

and because I find most carnis except troo, herra, ptera and REX mid

[exotic walrus]

Don't you get bored asf lmao

[normal shuttle]

no cuz I can survive and fight others, including other herbivores or omnivores

[normal shuttle]

dont spam the left click

double lmb click inputs as the goring attack

just respect the cooldowns and you will be good

mashing the button harder or faster wont reduce the cooldown of an attack

[exotic walrus]

Ohhh so you just KOS for fun then?

[normal shuttle]

sometimes, but often there's a reason

If I go on a rampage to wipe out juvis of carnis as a galli or pachy is because I am investing into the future

and if I am a galli and I kick juvi stegos to death I am keeping all of the food in a patrol for myself

[exotic walrus]

Oh. I was about to say as long as you're not one of those people.

[normal shuttle]

and this ofc includes my own because I am mostly a solo player

if I am a steg and I see a smaller or similar sized steg eating from papayas or agaves I'm killing it

because some nutrients rare

[exotic walrus]

Tbf if there weren't people like you around the isle wouldn't be nearly as fun. Half of the fun is not trusting people.

[normal shuttle]

And oh boy with trike

I am growing my second one rn, but with my first trike I took down like 5-6 adult trikes before eventually dying. without counting many other juvis and subadults on release

And you should know why if you played the HT

a single marigold gives you like 2% food

[exotic walrus]

I'm well aware

[indigo gulch]

can't wait for people to complain about that and ask for a buff

[exotic walrus]

But at fg it really doesn't matter either way you might as well just graze

You're the reason I spend hours on those PvP servers practicing defending myself against aggro stegos

[normal shuttle]

and now with trike taking 13 hours to grow, I am completely unwilling to graze and cuddle with herbis for 20 hours. I'm gonna go full aggro on other herbivores as soon as I reach a patrol or migration because 2-3 trikes hungry enough can literally clean up the entire migration.

[normal shuttle]

[exotic walrus]

You're north America servers right?

[normal shuttle]

nope

EU servers

[exotic walrus]

I thought I'd gotten lucky for a second.

[indigo gulch]

same here, but the other way around

[exotic walrus]

Do you not have compassion for others? Don't you care about other people spending hours on a dinosaur just to kill it for fun?

[indigo gulch]

wait, why are you still awake then ava?

[exotic walrus]

Christ alive. Why did I expect to find people with morals on discord

[normal shuttle]

I am a vampire

besides a herbi koser

who refuses to be a filthy mixpacker with other herbis

at most I've tolerated others or nested with my own

@dire bear think about it, now rex is gonna be able to ambush and obliterate stegos and dibbles more efficiently

[dire bear]

Why is that a pro?

[normal shuttle]

they wont see you coming from a kilometer away so they have to be aware at all times, and on top of that you have to carefully consider your approach to not create noise from the bushes

[dire bear]

Butchering map design so the apex carnivore can be more powerful

[normal shuttle]

because it encourages player awareness? duh

and I did say it because you did like rex and despised herbis right?

[dire bear]

Then just remove all plains then. Remove highlands too.

[normal shuttle]

not just rex, EVERYONE takes benefit of this. Every creature can now hide in the plains and have an easier time catching some targets

[normal shuttle]

lmao

[dire bear]

Then watch people leave the game because nobody likes jungle

[normal shuttle]

does this look like a jungle to you?

this is just a plus for every carnivore while also creating additional obstacles

[dire bear]

Nvm i forgot theres also endless swamp

I never touch that part of the map so

[normal shuttle]

????? It's ONE pond bruv, in the middle of a savannah

this is a former plains area

[dire bear]

Savannah? We still talking about the isle here

[normal shuttle]

yes

and they turned the grasslands partly into savannahs which is good

[dire bear]

That does NOT look like a savannah lol

Swamp-lite

[normal shuttle]

A savanna or savannah is a mixed woodland-grassland (i.e. grassy woodland) biome and ecosystem characterised by the trees being sufficiently widely spaced so that the canopy does not close.

literal definition of what a savannah is

not just limited to wide dry grass plains like in Africa

[dire bear]

So instead of making it an africa savannah they just re use the exact same assets and grass textures to make another swamp but slightly less dense k

[normal shuttle]

there's still clearly open areas regardless

[dire bear]

Is this north?

[normal shuttle]

[normal shuttle]

it's west access

[lilac bolt]

what am i reading? has a few pond so swamp

[dire bear]

Still should be fully plains

For variety

[dire bear]

What else is a swamp in a video game characterized by lol