general-feedback-discussion

[rotund fractal]

if you mean for Rex yes thats enought and you can hide and sneake to other dinos so yeah its fair

[normal shuttle]

Yeah apparently

[unreal ridge]

Pin as in 5 omnis on a diablo or pin as in I grab a galli and drag it do the ground as an Omni

[indigo gulch]

Think after the timeout they got?

[ancient kestrel]

Oh, why?

[normal shuttle]

Pin as in fg Omni pinning down a 85% Pachy or omni at 426kg being able to one tap a galli whereas at 424kg it actually has to try

Grapple is fine

[normal shuttle]

Dunno what happened. Could’ve been a timeout as well

[unreal ridge]

Because if we remove solo Omni pin I’d like to see it become a drop kick

Instead of pinning something to the ground Omni can use its full weight to knock prey to the ground then get in a good few bites

[normal shuttle]

Hopefully not permanent

[indigo gulch]

Idk I go up and they just not there

[unreal ridge]

If not that I would make solo omni incredibly easy to buck off

As the number of omnis increases so does the difficulty of bucking

When Omni grabs something lighter than it, prey has like 5-10 seconds to buck Omni off or else it gets dragged to the ground and pinned

Of course certain creatures get pinned automatically like fresh spawns

[normal shuttle]

Yeah one day it happened and well

Anyway, omni pin sucks

I hate omnis

[unreal ridge]

I like Omni but I’ve always liked raptors

I prefer troodon though

[normal shuttle]

I don’t like pinning and the slowdown/stam drain on normal pounce

Grapple is good though

Unless allo can do it, then it’s not okay

[unreal ridge]

They should buff bucking again

[rotund fractal]

also a nice Idea I think so 10 secounds with lower speed and than a exhaustion animation will be nice

[unreal ridge]

Yeah I’d rather just have a change Yk?

[normal shuttle]

Make it not rng where there is a 1% chance you don’t get to lose half of your stamina knocking an omni on your adult teno

[unreal ridge]

Chance*

[rotund fractal]

yes

[normal shuttle]

Scream if you hate Omniraptor

https://tenor.com/view/superman-henry-cavill-cry-crying-tears-gif-4514132

Me ong ^

[rotund fractal]

I understand the point is annoying that they pin you instantly down as if my Dino for example a pachy suddenly had no more muscles to do anything xD

[indigo gulch]

Tbf, if bucking is too strong it would be impossible to kill anything solo without pin

[rotund fractal]

but if a adult omni pins a babycera or so one than he can put him down and not a adult pachy, that will be the most realistic and fair thing I think as it is right now

[unreal ridge]

I want to see a form of heavy bucking, like that one Diablo who stopped dropped and rolled onto a Herrera in its concept

But the ability to use like 25% of your stamina but you save yourself from being grappled and deal actual damage to them

But also leaves you open to counter attack
It’s a lot easier to pin an animal to the ground if they are struggling to get up

[normal shuttle]

Then maybe don’t rely just on pouncing a large prey to kill it unless you want to grapple

[rotund fractal]

And as allo lover I also say this to allo, so the same system

[normal shuttle]

Allo is gonna kill the game if it gets pinning

not even joking

[indigo gulch]

If you kill a carno with just bites, the carno is literally a new player.

[normal shuttle]

If it gets anywhere close to omni math, we are so cooked

[normal shuttle]

Why are you even trying to solo a carno as Omni?

[unreal ridge]

I’m just hopeful about allos crappy “ambush stamina”

[rotund fractal]

and I dont want to sea a pouncing allo i wanna see a clinging allo

[indigo gulch]

Because it’s the only thing nearby🙃

[normal shuttle]

Also I killed a 2.5 ton stego once as Omni with just bites

[indigo gulch]

Again

[normal shuttle]

[indigo gulch]

Skill issue of the stego

[normal shuttle]

I was better

[indigo gulch]

That’s skill issue means

[unreal ridge]

That’s just a skill issue

[indigo gulch]

[normal shuttle]

Get ready for allos pinning you down and ruining your 3 hour long growth with one button press

It would be hilarious

[rotund fractal]

I let me suprise what the devs do, but I just wanna have my fav dino in evrima to play😍

[normal shuttle]

I like irl allo

[rotund fractal]

me too that why i am a allo lover xD

[normal shuttle]

But turning it into giant omni is such rampant soyboy bait

“OOOOOH MYY GAWD ITS ALLO AND IT CAN AMBUSH AND DIG AND ALSO POUNCE SAUROPODS!!! THE LION OF THE JURASSIC WOOOHOOO PINNING IS AMAZING AND COOL TOO!”

https://tenor.com/view/soyjak-spinning-spinning-soyjak-soyjak-jazz-hands-excited-spinning-wojak-gif-25231392

[rotund fractal]

a giant omni would be also unrealistic, allos dont pounce on his target they clinging and I think wenn they clinging they should be for example ulnerable

[normal shuttle]

Make allo unique 😢

[normal shuttle]

It is mechanically going to be the same

That is concerning regardless of how it is animated

[rotund fractal]

nahh I dont think so

[normal shuttle]

Yes

Allo is getting pinning and pouncing like Omni even if it is touching the ground

[desert arch]

Ngl, if allo doesnt get a dismount animation that launches it far, its gonna die the moment it dismounts from a stego LOL

[normal shuttle]

Deserved ngl

[rotund fractal]

He have also a bigger hitbox and when he is clinging the steggo could hit them

[desert arch]

Yes

[unreal ridge]

Yeah you should die if you try to grapple a stego solo tbh

[normal shuttle]

Rex immediately alt biting it and throwing it at its packmates would be absolute cinema

[unreal ridge]

Yk I wouldn’t be mad if some creatures should actually hit allo on them

[rotund fractal]

yes

[unreal ridge]

If you all don’t commit to the grapple immediately I should be able to rip you off my thigh and destroy you

[normal shuttle]

But imagine trying to grow a dibble or Maia with allo in the game. Where you get walked/run down from a hundred meters away and pinned

“Just avoid allos bro”

[unreal ridge]

I just imagine Rex in Jurassic park reaching on its side and grabbing the velociraptor
Just now it’s 2.5 tons

[desert arch]

Imagine allo getting scraped off by collisionless foliage and stunned for 5+ seconds, absolute cinema

[unreal ridge]

Fortunately Diablo will be able to throw allo over

[normal shuttle]

Or stunlocked by sub trikes like it happens with stego and maia

[normal shuttle]

When it is fg

But a 2.5 sub that is also slower? Oh well

[unreal ridge]

Allo being knocked off by a small banana palm would be the funniest thing ever

[normal shuttle]

Allo mains would rage so hard

Being able to deal 2-3k damage with one pounce and then complaining that their prey can avoid being mauled to death with no counterplay with terrain

“B-but I can’t pounce if they are camping trees”

The lmb:

[unreal ridge]

I wonder how allo grapple will work

[limber hull]

you know thats a REALLY good point

allo likely both wouldn't be able to launch itself at its target, nor launch itself away. that's a huge downside

[unreal ridge]

It kinda can launch itself at its target, that lunge is crazy

[rotund fractal]

has it actually been changed in the meantime that when a juvi raptor jumps at an adult deino, the deino does not lose so much stam? Imagine an 8-ton deino is totally exhausted because it is dragging around a raptor weighing a few kilograms xDDDDD

I saw that in a video and damn that was funny xD

[limber hull]

where's the lunge seen? i didnt see it

[unreal ridge]

It should be in one of the dev blogs

Allo launches forward and seems to either snatch something in front of it
Or claw them to death

[indigo gulch]

That just gives me flashbacks to when me and @desert arch killed a 3ton deino as fg omnis🤣

[rotund fractal]

uff xD

[indigo gulch]

Granted, it was 0 stam

[rotund fractal]

yeah it could be true xD

[unreal ridge]

None of my gifs are loading I had the allo thing saved

I’ll find a video rq

[woven bane]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-evrima-the-isle-allosaurus-gif-4889568474112564903

[unreal ridge]

https://youtu.be/_iZt6QpbQQE?si=6EXRRrwh5KU1qJRj
4:20

Beat me too it darn

[rotund fractal]

what he or she mean? i dont get it

[limber hull]

that lunge honestly aint that impressive imma keep it real

[unreal ridge]

I mean it’s still 2.5 tons getting airborne for a half second

[rotund fractal]

😍

love it

[unreal ridge]

Crazy how bison can jump 6 feet tbh

1000 pounds should not be getting that high

@wise terrace what do you mean?

You don’t get vomit sickness from pouncing a Cerato

Did you pounce its face?

[indigo gulch]

Might just be a bug tbh

[indigo gulch]

You can do a lot of stuff with adrenaline🤣

[wise terrace]

I got vomit sickness 3 times today when i pounce cera

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

"stop everything your team is doing besides trike/rex"

so what, you want the programmers to keep working on the playables, and the artists/level designers/sound team/etc, to just... magically remove the hackers? lol

[wise terrace]

No hits at all on me.no roten meat consume

Just gez sicknes when i pounce

[unreal ridge]

How did you get vomit sickness then? What’s your ping

[wise terrace]

Its not ping

[indigo gulch]

If it was that simple it would have been fixed by now 👏

[wise terrace]

I was troodon.if he hit me i notice

[unreal ridge]

I don’t know what happened then

[indigo gulch]

Like I said, probably just a bug

Good to report it tho

[wise terrace]

Yeahh prety annoying one

[indigo gulch]

Someone still downvoted it

[wise terrace]

😂 😂 😂

[unreal ridge]

Yeah idk people just be downvoting everything lmao

[wise terrace]

Cera mains in shambles

[indigo gulch]

Yes guys, cera definitely needs this. It’s too weak otherwise

I got into an argument with a cera main the other day on an unofficial server. Bro really wanted to send me d*ath threats for some reason

Too bad for him, I’m used to that stuff (I play league)

[unreal ridge]

I love messing with Cerato mains

I play a lot of Herrera, they don’t expect to be 3 shotted by a 175kg animal

[normal shuttle]

@median hound did you feel smart saying that?

You know that developers are specialized in different fields of game development and informatics?

[unreal ridge]

Yeah we have developers specifically for the anti cheat and software of the game

Only a few actually work on dinosaurs

[normal shuttle]

Also we were told they are working on something about it

[median hound]

Informatics LOL. Look whos TRYING to sound smart. Give it legs mate. Nothing but a salty kid. My post was fair. Games cooked. Nothing done about it at all. Listen to your community, every single day is another bloke winging they got one tapped by a flying bird. wake up!

[normal shuttle]

They just aren’t very vocal about it or the methods because they don’t want the cheaters themselves to know anything

[unreal ridge]

I can hear the accent through the message Jesus

[normal shuttle]

game development is tied to informatics, duh. Water is wet.

Also calling me salty is the epitome of irony lmao

[median hound]

ahahah ay

[median hound]

ill cop that one hahaah got me there!

[normal shuttle]

No one likes cheaters, me included

[unreal ridge]

Modern Isle player whenever minor inconvenience: games cooked, it’s over

[normal shuttle]

Apparently 2015 was the golden age of the game

[median hound]

the man thinks the saturated hacking situation getting one tapped by a flying bird after growing for hours to get FG is a minor inconvience...

[unreal ridge]

We were in 2015 for what 15 days lmao?

[limber hull]

okay but mate you do realise that most of the team literally doesn't work on programming and t hus cant work on the anticheat, and the dudes working on rex and trike ARE the programmers who would be able to work on that, so your entire suggestion is

"everyone who can work on anticheat, work on rex and trike, everyone who can't, make it happen" which means nothing happens

[normal shuttle]

There’s like 30-40 official servers that punch and admins have to watch at all times to deal with hackers and ban them. If you really want to have little struggle with it, you should try unofficials since they are more often under someone’s watch with a much bigger admin to server amount ratio

And as I said, they are working on something. And well…You cannot tell someone like Tapwing to stop what they’re doing to solve the cheater issue lol

Tapwing is the concept artist

[median hound]

The hacking situation, is next level. as i said in post, there are now youtube videos about it. im not understanding what yous are missing here. how are you defending this ?

was my tone too harsh for you? because my facts are on point here

[limber hull]

brother did you even read what i said LMAO

[normal shuttle]

He is not defending it

[limber hull]

i didnt defend anything lmao i literally stated how your suggestion doesnt make sense

[median hound]

yeah nah i understand, what i am struggling to understand is why it isnt more of a top of the list thing to solve for them?

its game breaking. wouldnt you focus on that?

[unreal ridge]

People have been screaming at them constantly since the start of evrima for more dinosaurs, it’s what they think people want

[normal shuttle]

You heard that, Bryan, time to start working on anti cheat and stop with animations

[limber hull]

i mean, like you said, they're focusing on rex and trike

[normal shuttle]

And punch already said they are working on something to deal with hackers, although quietly so

They know

And they care

[ancient kestrel]

I mean making allo a pouncer and pinner not a bad idea itself considering that it have very well build arms

[normal shuttle]

Mechanics brother, mechanics

[unreal ridge]

I wonder if allo can use the back slot on creatures

Imagine allo hauling itself up onto your back just to fall off and break its ankles

[ancient kestrel]

It just need different maths for pounce and pin - that all what needs to balance it out

[normal shuttle]

I don’t care if it makes sense

Guys, seriously

I DONT CARE

I couldn’t care less if something looks plausible. Allo with pouncing and pinning remotely close to how omni plays out would be horrifying

[normal shuttle]

More than that actually

Such as stamina efficiency and conditions for pounce and pinning

[median hound]

Im reading people suggestions in the feedback of "put tyre tracks on the dirt path" and im just tripping that i believe thats nonsense, atleast shouldnt even be thought of rn, what should be top tier and every single suggestion should simply say "fix your hacking sitch xx"

but ay "they know, and they care and they are already working on something" is good enough for me!

good chats Y'all 😉 kthxbye

[unreal ridge]

Allo pin 65% its weight
This way allo v allo is the most hilarious form of me hold rmb you die

It takes two allos to hold down one allo since they are evenly matched 1v1

2,500 kg allo can pin anything under 1,625 kg including things like tenonto, carno, cerato, young maias, young Diablos and young stegos

to pin anything you gotta use multiple allos

[faint folio]

The map designer/artist who would be adding details like tire tracks does not have the skills in programming to fix the hacking sitch... The game programmers do.... And they are hooking up rex and trike right now among other things

[normal shuttle]

Imagine two of them grappling a 5 ton stego

[limber hull]

the guy who would put tyre tracks on the dirt path would not have anything to do with anyone who works on the anticheat. literally harmless

[normal shuttle]

BlueYaBoy when the animation developer works on animating the animals and doesn’t waste time learning a new game development field: 😠

It’s a joke!!!

ITS SATIRE

[unreal ridge]

British man vs satirical comment

[median hound]

i get that, maybe not the best example. Im just saying it should be a TOP 3 rn being worked on ya know? REX, TRIKE and HACKING. And let the community know where their at and what their plans are, with the hacking atleast.

Not sure how bad your NA servers are, but our AU are just cooked man ay. Pteradons flying the whole map either one tapping or damage boost hack whatever you wanna call it. its wild out here

[limber hull]

issue is, they don't want to let the community know because then they let the hackers know

dont give 'em a headstart, hit them when they least expect it type deal

also I'm AU as well

[median hound]

fair fair

[normal shuttle]

I’m getting stabbed tonight

[limber hull]

i actually haven't met any hackers thusfar tho

[woeful latch]

when people will stop asking for grazing nerf lol, i don’t want to die because plants refuse to spawn or local trikes ate literally everything.

we already got carnivore starving problem, don’t spread that to herbivores too.

[unreal ridge]

He said AU servers so maybe watch out for anyone in khakis

[unreal ridge]

I want more things to graze on
Make most of the plants already in the game edible

[median hound]

You a lucky man! iv been done in three times! 90% steggo, FG croc and a FG dibble. one time with pteradon fly hack, others baby ceras one tapping.

[unreal ridge]

Player edited maps by eating foliage, knocking down trees, digging up roots

[median hound]

khakis hahahaha

[unreal ridge]

it would also let carnivores just wait in the tree line for someone to come eat like a banana palm

[woeful latch]

i mean i don’t mind that, but imo grazing should stay as infinite food source

[unreal ridge]

Bring back the legacy bush for all 3 diets and my life is yours dondi

[normal shuttle]

Only one in officials on my case. I was a dibble in orange health and a distance vomit inflict cera decided to show up

[woeful latch]

not getting any nutrients is already punishing

[normal shuttle]

Bring back no alt turn servers

[unreal ridge]

I think I realized why they got rid of the malnutrition lol

[woeful latch]

tbh that should come back

[unreal ridge]

after they add food that gives actual food

[woeful latch]

good way to nerf grazing is buff the perfect diet buffs and punish people for not having any nutrients. elders will probably depend on diets

but buff not in the way of dino stats, but give something else, that you can’t use in combat

[unreal ridge]

Oh I had an idea like that, you know how elders decline into seniors?
Make having a perfect diet and staying physically active slow down the rate at which elders progressively get weaker and then pass away

Keeping up with dietary needs means you get more time with crazy strength

[woeful latch]

imo galli is the best example of an animal that needs perfect diet. it just needs it to get running speed buff which encourages gallis to search for actual plants, not to graze.

would be nice to use the same mechanic of diet buffs for other animals. but ofc different buffs, speed boost is only really acceptable for carno/galli

for example croc with perfect diet could hold its breath for longer.

cera can get even better scent range having perfect diet.

maia having perfect diet could affect its babies running speed in the range.

teno can have better swimming speed to swim away from the predators if it has the perfect diet

dryo can get more dodges depending on the diet it has.

having significant buffs for an animal that are not combat related can really stop people from overpacking, because everyone wants to have the cool buff, everyone wants to be a little more special, i would not graze or overpack with huge amount of herbivores if there’s not enough plants for everyone and i can’t get perfect diet to get the cool buff

[unreal ridge]

I wish Maia got a rallying call for its babies

[woeful latch]

so that’s an amazing way to nerf grazing without nerfing grazing, because the current problem is herbivore overpacking and sustaining the overpack easily, but with this changes a lot less people will overpack

[normal shuttle]

I wish maia could metabolize radium and then expel it through its nostrils to deter predators

[unreal ridge]

It’s the good mother lizard after all
Give it the galli honk, but only for juveniles and hatchlings
Adult presses f while running, babies can somewhat match moms speed

[unreal ridge]

They should add plutonium as like a salt rock

[normal shuttle]

Yes

And if you eat it as something else you die

[unreal ridge]

Or get super powers

0.0001% chance

Same as bucking

[hidden pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472407075419586560/1196511855292719174/attachment-2.gif

[floral quest]

#general-feedback message bump c: just so that it’s seen

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message is that’s a thing now?

if that’s real i’m actually gonna cry, cera should stop getting even more buffs🫥

[normal shuttle]

Don’t agree

In fact trike should have no nv

Because I said so and I’m your father

[woeful latch]

trike should be a night terror

[normal shuttle]

Trike should have venom

[ancient kestrel]

Hacker problem is greatly exaggerated. I literally never seen any hacker and I am playing since 2020. And most people don't see them usually. Anyway point is that not every dev in teem is specialized to work on anti-cheat - most of them are modellers, animators and etc. So it's stupid to think that development of certain dinos somehow hinders work on countering cheaters

[ancient kestrel]

Huh? Where info about 65% came from?

[ancient kestrel]

It's OK

[normal shuttle]

No…

[ancient kestrel]

Yes. Remeber when devs was talking that they wanted to make combat something more than bite exchange simulator?

[normal shuttle]

It’s a suggestive (🥵) suggestion

[normal shuttle]

Yes, but I don’t agree because I want stego to be an uncontested powerhouse

[unreal ridge]

I’m just saying what it should

[ancient kestrel]

I mean before grappling stego you should somehow avoid a hits of it since it knock you and finish in second swing

[unreal ridge]

Can’t you have like 5 stegos in a single herd

Balanced enough ig

[ancient kestrel]

Remember that Stego probably will kill allo in 2-3 hits

[unreal ridge]

What’s stegos tail swing damage? Not power swing just default swing

[ancient kestrel]

Above 1k I think? I don't know

[desert arch]

Think he means this

[unreal ridge]

1k x 1.5 headshot multiplier
1,500kg damage + bleed
If allo gets hit once it should probably stop hunting stego

Not to mention power swing

Isn’t it like 1,250(?)

[desert arch]

1250

900 when out of stam

[ancient kestrel]

Thats an odd bug

[desert arch]

Thats just ping being ping and ruining troodon lives lol

[ancient kestrel]

So yeah. Stego wouldn't really have that big issues with allos @normal shuttle trying to imagine

[desert arch]

Standing power swing is 1800, running is 2250

[ancient kestrel]

Oof. Running power swing probably will one tap allo by headshot if it will be 2500

[unreal ridge]

Yeah I mean unless you are getting ambushed, stego shouldn’t have too hard a time whacking allos

2,250 x 1.5 headshot damage is 3,375

Allo gets rocked

[ancient kestrel]

Well that probably will one shot even alberto

[unreal ridge]

Definitely

[ancient kestrel]

So I guess stego would be quite nasty target even for Rex

[median hound]

This conversation has already been had mate. but ok

Because you havnt seen hackers, you assume its not an issue ? "most people dont see them"?

Fun fact - Thats wrong. Myself and numerous others arnt winging for no reason. Some bloke just posted a vid in the feedback of going flying sky high.
Theres so many different hacks being implemented here im not even going to list them all out!! Im talking one taps, flying hacks, vomit hacks etc etc etc.

Oh its proper real bro. Dont be nieve meow.

Yes - Dev doing artwork arnt going to fix this, acknowledged. I didnt state my point very well.

My simple point is - The hacking sitch is wild and valid. They have already made lots of revenue and the games getting alot of hype. Why dont they pay someone to sort it out, and just be done with complaints/stop anyone quiting and/or stop anyone watching YT hacking and hesitating on joining? This is a business, to me it would be smart to go full steam ahead on the hacking!

The fact theres youtube videos being released of the hacking proves my point and is going to do incredible harm to this game.
I myself watched YT on this game for weeks before buying it - If i saw these hacking videos i would absolutely hesitate.

As i said - conversations been had, old mate stated how they do know, they do care and they are already working on something.

So im happy with that.

We hear nothing, it seems like our complaints fall on deaf ears. Being told they arnt is good enough for me.

[ancient kestrel]

Wow. That quite a big chunk of post

[median hound]

it was ! my bad hahahah

[ancient kestrel]

If you want to hackers being punished - just report them. There a reason why devs aren't loudly discuss hackers - it is all to not scare them off before dealing with them

And again can you prove hacking statistics that there are really a lot of them %-wise to the player count?

[median hound]

Yeah i feel ya but to me it doesnt really make sense.

We @ admins in our AU chat, say we got hacked on au1 for example.

but this discord is open for everyone, the hackers are very much here, they would be reading the chat like a hawk. See our @ admin yo got hacked and theyll take their que to gap

makes no sense to me 😦

[median hound]

uhhhmm, no i cant do this sorry bud. But just because you havnt been done by hackers dont assume its not valid mate.

[ancient kestrel]

It's not what I am talking about I mean that devs aren't loudly announce work onany big fixes to code weaknesses. What we know they are working on that. And yes they actually was preventing certain hacks from working. But hackers vs devs is continues tug of war which means that it is impossible to completely eliminate hackers

There is no game company which solved cheater issue

[median hound]

copy that. i was told there actually isnt a solve all. That the admins update their software, then the hackers update their hacks, and rinse repeat. Is that true?

told in the last 10 minutes*

[median hound]

that answers that!

[ancient kestrel]

Best you can do for now - be prepared to record any sus situations (F2) and DM admin. Devs are know about issue and working on that - don't be desperate about it

[tropic matrix]

the thing is that it's been a problem for a while now

[faint folio]

That's part of the problem, yes. And it isn't limited to just games - hacking is a problem for all kinds of software, and it's a constant game of cat and mouse. Developer finds a security hole the hacker was exploiting and closes it, hacker gets more creative and finds another security hole. Rinse and repeat.

[full comet]

#general-feedback message bro had wayyyy too much aura

u look at him and get FLUNG

[past crystal]

#general-feedback message
uhhh.. probably add something in the game that keeps your dinosaur from dying if it falls from a height that isn't physically possible in the game?

[eternal moss]

bro my feedback got deleted😭

[full comet]

😭 oh?

[eternal moss]

@icy lion Was there a reason as to why me feedback was deleted? I didn't get pinged in moderation for it.

[icy lion]

It was neither a suggestion nor feedback, it looks like

[eternal moss]

It was a video of a new hack

they can launch you up into the air if you get within 10 feet of their range

[icy lion]

You can report hacks to official server admins by following the guidelines pinned in the official server channels

[eternal moss]

it was on an unofficial server though, and they were already reported and banned

i was just letting devs know theres a new hack

[valid brook]

we're aware. but thank you

not that im a dev but

we've informed them

[misty maple]

#general-feedback message
love the idea with spruce and red wood forests

[bleak kestrel]

Because im smart

And know we need the simple things

Okey maybe adding like whole new forest isnt so simple

[eternal moss]

red woods are already planned to come

[bleak kestrel]

These 3 should be added

Spruce forest

Bit more rocky and also is placed on more harsh terrain

Tree forest

Just forest with normal trees and not that much foliage (trust me it would feel diffrent from average jungle we got)

Redwood

Basicaly huge trees with some clear areas and areas with dense foliage

I think we really need some variations oh biomes and places to make them more interesting

It could make traveling around more fun

[topaz glade]

#general-feedback message just wanna paste it here cus forgot there

[misty maple]

yea ik i just wanted to support this idea further

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly we just kinda need more special locations

That are worth visiting

[narrow nova]

#general-feedback message
Pls Help with a ✅ to encourage devs to deal with hackers

[hidden pilot]

they are actively dealing with hackers

[placid anchor]

#general-feedback message
When you get stung by a bee, it won't cause you any significant damage, but you'll likely cry out in sudden pain.

[normal shuttle]

@proud sky admins can toggle them

[eternal moss]

i 100% agree

give this man an oscar

[dire bear]

@proud sky Humans wont be added anyways so theres nothing to worry about

[icy lion]

Huh?

[dire bear]

Humans will not be added for the next 5 years atleast thats for sure. Its like the last thing ever on the roadmap

[icy lion]

Humans are already in game

And they'll go under more active development once the main dino mechanics and gameplay loop are implemented

[dire bear]

No they arent. A test option is not them being fully "added"

[icy lion]

The devs aren't waiting for every single dino in the game to be in before working on humans

[dire bear]

The game literally crashes and dies when a human dies lol

Its not even pre alpha yet

Its just a concept feature

[icy lion]

Right, but that's no reason to straight up lie

[dire bear]

Its a lie to say that humans are going to be added

They still need to make inventory system, item system, survival system etc

[normal shuttle]

Is it a lie to say that the thing the devs want to add and have been working on for a while is eventually going to be added?

???

[dire bear]

Yes

[normal shuttle]

[dire bear]

When looking at the timeframe bruh theres no chance

[icy lion]

I guess I've got to kindly remind you to read rule 11 #rules-and-info

[dire bear]

Its not even worth discussing until atleast 5 yrs later

[normal shuttle]

Lol

[dire bear]

?

[normal shuttle]

Ultimate argument

[normal shuttle]

Sorry but that is misinformation

[dire bear]

If anything its misinformation to say they are going to be added soon

[normal shuttle]

To say it’s straight up false that they will never be added

[dire bear]

The devs literally said to not expect them soon

[icy lion]

No one is saying they'll be added soon, but saying they're not planned is a lie

[dire bear]

I never said they arent planned stop making things up

[normal shuttle]

Don’t expect them soon ≠ ≠ ≠ won’t be added/it’s a lie they’re going to be added

[floral quest]

#general-feedback message isn’t trampling alr a thing

[icy lion]

That is how this message is interpreted #general-feedback-discussion message

[icy lion]

And this one #general-feedback-discussion message

[floral quest]

humans wont be added?

[icy lion]

See?

[normal shuttle]

They will

[icy lion]

They will be

[dire bear]

It doesnt matter how you interpret it lol. I said that he has nothing to worry about because humans arent going to be added for a WHILE

[normal shuttle]

Also

[floral quest]

oh

[dire bear]

By the time humans are added the game will probably be full release or smth

[normal shuttle]

You didn’t specify that there nor here either

[floral quest]

wait who do i believe it looked like someone said they wouldn’t be🧍🏼‍♀️

[normal shuttle]

You cannot expect us to assume through text where you choose to show the information you want

[dire bear]

They might be added in the far future

[icy lion]

Kyrill is saying that humans aren't planned, but what they mean is that they'll be added later

[icy lion]

No, there's no "might", they are fully 100% planned and intended to be part of the game

[dire bear]

I never said they arent planned what is wrong with yall

[floral quest]

i thought they were planned bc of the lore?

[icy lion]

Again, do not spread misinformation. This is all easily verifiable

[dire bear]

Arguing with isle fans is crazy and im an isle fan

[floral quest]

and bc they’re able to get added on com servers

[normal shuttle]

They aren’t even gonna wait for all dinosaurs to be added

[dire bear]

Yall need to learn the difference between "planned" and "have a reasonable chance of being added in the near future". Just because something is planned does not mean its going to be added soon

[normal shuttle]

Just the complete gameplay loop. Which means stuff like migrations and elders fully implemented

Humans won’t be held back by homalo’s release

[normal shuttle]

No one is arguing they’re going to be added soon

[dire bear]

No you guys started arguing with me cuz i told the guy theres nothing to worry about, and im right.

[normal shuttle]

We are just saying that they are planned and will be added at some point we didn’t specify, to contradict the way your initial messages sounded like implying that they straight up won’t be added

[dire bear]

Worrying about whether humans are going to be in the game or not is a waste of time

[dire bear]

The devs also "planned" natural disasters and droughts

Those things also probably arent going to exist in the near future

[normal shuttle]

And that’s fine

[dire bear]

Yes exactly

[normal shuttle]

They’re are still planned and will be added eventually

[dire bear]

Wrong

[icy lion]

Alright, I already warned you

[normal shuttle]

With the current direction of the game, it just makes sense

…Lmao…

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl about natural disasters

Imagine a tornado 💀

Or like event where there is strong wind and it will basicaly remove foliage from trees and etc it would look kinda cool

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message @proud sky Hehe, that's... that's very funny

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl dont you guys think we should get a smaller crocodile like 250-800 for beginners to also expriance crocodile gameplay?

Like getting adult deino is quite harsh

[cyan flame]

Would it be any different from small deino?

[bleak kestrel]

Im sure it would grow faster and also could be faster on land

Like honestly it depends what crocodile you would pick for that role

[desert arch]

u6 deino vibes

I still remember it vividly...

[bleak kestrel]

Like instead of using his grab that diffrent crocodile could use barrel roll

[cyan flame]

Just thinking, if its just "experience deino gameplay", dont you have that while growing deino, you dont need to be adult for that?

Since deino plays the same pretty much the whole time?

[bleak kestrel]

Deinosuchus wouldnt use barrel roll cause of his size wnich i think makes sense but also he does use it to rip flesh idk

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message @vivid lichen, devs are already preparing reward for growing dino but a little bit more complicated to obtain - elder system

[bleak kestrel]

You grow kinda slow and also the more you grow the harder it is to find food

More mobile crocodile would be also nice

[cyan flame]

All true, but you play the same, so you get the experience. But yeah, if the other playable would be more different, it makes more sense

[bleak kestrel]

I have idea of another croc but it would be same as deino in size if not lil bigger

Stomatosuchus that ate plankton and small fish

I think it would be cool addition it would for sure not be like deino in a bit

Could work as deino prey item also

Also when u noticed how deino looks more realstic wise

I wonder why they didint go more realstic with deino desing 🤔

Like i mean only his head

Like to be honest this would be nice but i think elder crocs look more like this thi

[normal shuttle]

No

Just git gud with deino

[bleak kestrel]

I still wouldnt mind more crocs...

[ancient kestrel]

If anything better to add some other semi-aquatic dweller which is not exactly croc but similar body plan

[bleak kestrel]

I think the best idea for a croc is stomatosuchus

Its plankton eating croc.

Or just eat small fish

That would actually feel like interesting playable ngl

But frist if they actually want to add more aquatic we need more rivers and water

@unreal ridge honestly they could just change some areas to be just more flat and etc like sp and space near north lake are only flat plains ingame i think

I think making eathier more sandy would be nice (i would want north lake one more ngl to be more sandy)

[ancient kestrel]

You know what? We don't need more water crocs. We need land crocs! Fasolasuchus - Go!

Estimated to be 3-4 tons. Actual biggest non-therapod land carnivore

[normal shuttle]

why

tell me what use a land croc could have besides cool factor

I like them too, but why

[faint folio]

They're not even a land croc. They're a rauisuchian

[ancient kestrel]

Well they are much close to be true crocs since they came before modern crcos

It also isn't a mistake to call all pseudosuchians a crocs since that what all of them were

[foggy field]

Fasalo, barina would be so great

[ancient kestrel]

Because we need more love for triassic! So underrepresented in media but yet had the most bizzare creatures of Mezozoic.
If we go beside coolness factor it could posses great knock-back resistance (cause quadroped stance), powerful bite with bone snap for lolz.

[foggy field]

Barina the goat

[faint folio]

I mean... Croc refers to crocodilia... And fasolasuchus isn't in that order afaik

[normal shuttle]

that's...lame for a concept

[ancient kestrel]

That because I wasn't really trying. For now. It is obviously hard thing to fit in Evrimas ecosystem

[ancient kestrel]

Pseudosuchians are all crocs. Change my mind

[normal shuttle]

Raui had a model actually

[ancient kestrel]

Raui got axed and I guess because it was just way too small

Unless... they not planned raui himself but some rauisuchian

[faint folio]

EZ. it's literally in the name. Order Crocodilia vs Clade Pseudosuchian.

One has croc literally in the name, the other doesn't. Pseudosuchia does include crocodilian, but the other members of the clade are not crocodilians

It's a "all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares" situation

[ancient kestrel]

Don't mind me. I am ragebaiting. Ofc things I am saying ain't scientifically accurate and right

[faint folio]

I know from the emoji 🤣 but for others who may actually believe you

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly i think barina would be nice as (nvm its like nearly 2 tons)

[ancient kestrel]

Ofc it hillarious to call all dinos a birds just because birds descended from them

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i think fasolasuchus is better pick than barina

I dont think having both is great idea

[faint folio]

Honestly I think a rauisuchian would be cool in terms of adding variety of body plan to the carnivore lineup (so many theropods 😭) but it would be really tricky to come up with unique mechanics for it

[foggy field]

Its allosaurus sized by some estimates lmao

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly i think we need something beetween 500-1000kg

[ancient kestrel]

That what Megalania for

[bleak kestrel]

How you know how much it weights?

[ancient kestrel]

It's around 1 ton

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly rn it could be even 2 tons so we cant be sure.

[ancient kestrel]

We don't know for sure how it will weigh in game

[ancient kestrel]

I doubt. It shown on concept arts and it isn't bigger than cera

[bleak kestrel]

I still want some herbis that would fit beetween 500kg and 1 ton like i think kentro could be in that weight class

[ancient kestrel]

Ava

[bleak kestrel]

Oh also but i think it will be little over 500kg but i really hope it will not be that light

[ancient kestrel]

I think Kentro will be bigger than that

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly idk it wasnt really massive in concept art

[normal shuttle]

Meg is gonna be like cera and carno sized I bet

[bleak kestrel]

I think it would be good as 800-1000kg dino the amount of bleed it would do would be nuts

[normal shuttle]

maybe even a little more

since I dont see it actually outrunning a teno if the teno wants to kill it

[bleak kestrel]

I hope they make mega powerful enough so growing it will take some time and you will be able to have some fun with the climbing mechanic

[dawn hound]

postosuchus

[bleak kestrel]

Its so small dude

[ancient kestrel]

Postosuchus. considering it's size estimates, will be a small tier lol

[dawn hound]

idk i just remembered it lol

i mean to be fair

this game upscales dinosaurs weight

only sometimes tho

[ancient kestrel]

WWD postosuchus was upscaled as heck

[dawn hound]

yep

[bleak kestrel]

Fasolasuchus ngl could be quite a brawler but i think it should be like a very good at bone break and be solo hunter

[normal shuttle]

aetosaurus...

[bleak kestrel]

Also i think it should be able to use bite to trash something around

[bleak kestrel]

Semi aquatic tank sure but it would need to be like 800 kg

Like i dont see it being actually and puporse in roster if it will be smillar size as minmi

[ancient kestrel]

Desmatosuchus...

[bleak kestrel]

Its same thing just bit heavier

[dawn hound]

Yall, i aint no stegosaurus fan, but how is it and anything similiarly sized gonna deal with 2 allos? Arent they just gonna pin it down and kill it easily? Thats not fair considering the speed of each species.

[bleak kestrel]

If you want this guy it would need to be semi aquatic and also quick for his size or something or have counter to defend itself

[ancient kestrel]

Stego would be able to one tap allo with power swing lol

[bleak kestrel]

No.

[ancient kestrel]

if headshot - yes

[bleak kestrel]

Take it out of the fight

Yes

Kill it no

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah thats a trick part.

A headshot you didint mention that

[dawn hound]

I know, but the predators can just pin it so easily.

[bleak kestrel]

IT ISNT EVEN OUT YET

[normal shuttle]

hear me out

Plateosaurus...

[ancient kestrel]

To pin you need to get close without taking a hit lol

[dawn hound]

I mean.. true

[bleak kestrel]

I would want something like around 800 like plateosaurus but yeah cool idea ngl

[dawn hound]

Can yall imagine like 8 allosaurs pinning down a diplodocus? lol

[ancient kestrel]

And you need to perform it with 3 allos. Which is impossible that all 3 would succesfully latch on stego

[bleak kestrel]

Plateo could seem like something it could defend and run away unlike some sauropod.

Not pointing fingers

[ancient kestrel]

Eh. Pack size won't allow that prob

Otherwise its overpack

[normal shuttle]

900kg plateo and we are good

[bleak kestrel]

Mossospondylus maybe as small tier sauropod?

[dawn hound]

Do you think the game cares? I hate megapacks, but there is no system against it.

[normal shuttle]

doubt diplo will have 8 pounce slots

[ancient kestrel]

Wasn't it near 4 tons or something?

[bleak kestrel]

No no keep it big plateo was like more than 2 tons any way i think

Mossospondylus could take spot as small tier sauropod

[normal shuttle]

yes, but I didn't know. So now I guess 3 ton plateo could do the trick

[bleak kestrel]

Nah make it 5-6 tons 🙂

[bleak kestrel]

Dang i frogot it was planned kinda

[normal shuttle]

goated

[bleak kestrel]

Mossospondylus still i think should be added as 1 ton sauropod

Maybe even omnivore...

But that bit to much prob

I could see plateo being all in one.

Bleed

Brute force

Knockback

Bone break no cuz well no need to tell why

But i think it could really do some nasty bleed with one attack and other one do like a lot of damage

[ancient kestrel]

Hear me out :Atopodentatus

[bleak kestrel]

@dawn hound what if you would had to find food in each migration zone and it would have life specfic place to spawn other types of food other places they spawn and in diffrent patterns

[lone solstice]

Lmao id main that

[bleak kestrel]

Add notho to hunt it and also upsize it

[buoyant dove]

Small and mid tier sauropods imo have no place in a game like this

[bleak kestrel]

I dont care about your opinion

[buoyant dove]

The game has like 4 ecosystems in one with so many dinosaurs unlike where most small sauropods lived

[buoyant dove]

Cool but sadly ur gonna hear it

in a game like this a small sauropods just gonna get ran down by bigger atuff

[lone solstice]

Actually, if anything, he's gonna read it 🤓 ☝️

[bleak kestrel]

It wouldnt be like 20km/h you know?

Also it wouldnt be a pushover.

[buoyant dove]

I thought you didnt care about my opinion?

[buoyant dove]

I mean

it should be able to body simliar sized stuff

[bleak kestrel]

It would just run from cera and dodge carno

[buoyant dove]

but in a world with omnis and ceratos and allos i dont see how any small or mid tier sauropod could survive

[buoyant dove]

A whole sauropod is not outrunning a medium sized theropod and dodging a incredibly fast theropod built for speed without looking dumb imo

[bleak kestrel]

It would out run both allo and cera and give omni visit to Jesus chirst himself with its tail

[buoyant dove]

Its like magy, magy would look weird and dumb outrunning allo

[buoyant dove]

Yeah i could see the omni part, im just worried itd get mobbed and torn to ribbons by packs specifically

[bleak kestrel]

Its not like other sauropods

[buoyant dove]

OHH

Im so sorry lol my fault.

[dawn hound]

I didnt understand what you ment, but in my suggestion i ment that each migration zone would provide AT LEAST 1 or 2 foods of each nutrition (carbs, protein, lipid), so that the migration zone would actually make sence. There should be at least 1 patrol zone in each non active migration zone, which would at least provide nutritious food for species that dont wanna travel anywhere, but wouldnt have all kinds of nutritions in that specific area.

[buoyant dove]

Yeahh i see

Thats my bad lol sorry for the misunderstanding

[bleak kestrel]

So you dummy though im talking about any actual sauropod?

Like dude there is no sauropod smaller than magy.

I maybe mean but if youre talking about a dino with you should understand what dino are we actually talking about

[normal shuttle]

Plateo and Magy are perfectly viable

[buoyant dove]

Idk

[normal shuttle]

Trust me bro

[buoyant dove]

We will see when they come out

[normal shuttle]

No kidding, they will

[bleak kestrel]

Magy needs to be heavy enough to take on ceras and carno and then i will belive you

[normal shuttle]

magy is coming before plateo 100% since plateo is kinda in the air, but we know this one will likely stand a chance and only really have to worry about cera

[ancient kestrel]

Well plateo will be able to slap someone with claws tho

[buoyant dove]

I agree with what most say about magy i dont know if it would be able to survive apexes

[normal shuttle]

it will be heavy enough to cc both of them, we are good

[dawn hound]

#general-feedback message @lone solstice yes.

[buoyant dove]

Like giga and carch if that thing even gets added

[lone solstice]

Neat

[buoyant dove]

and packs of allos

[normal shuttle]

apexes are the easiest to survive if anything. Magy EASILY is gonna surpass the 30kph mark running and have good stamina

[buoyant dove]

Fair i guess

[normal shuttle]

biggest problems are likely allo and alberto

which are still feasible with the right mobility or even better wading/swimming

[bleak kestrel]

35km and decent agillty or armor and it should be good

[normal shuttle]

and good stamina as well

better than dibble's

in fact, 36.5 or above should be good to be just outside dibble's running speed

[bleak kestrel]

I think it should be able to just ram in things

Like carno charging at you?

Charge at it too 🙂

Also i think it should also have decent bite

Maybe even grab something and yeet it

[normal shuttle]

yeeting an omni would be hilarious if it could

I would laugh so hard if it could just throw them 5 meters away

[bleak kestrel]

I mean it would need ot be atleast 2 tons for that

[normal shuttle]

nah, magy trains necl muscles

[bleak kestrel]

Yeet in water would be just devious 💀

Imagine giving deinos treats like that

That make me think this is bad idea

[normal shuttle]

imagine yeeting an omni at its packmates and knocking two in one

[bleak kestrel]

Like you could just throw something out of a cliff

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly grab should waste a lot of stam cause it would be to strong

[lone solstice]

It can be done already, i don't seee the harm in it, but it might look a bit... Cartoonish? I can't quite picture it honestly.

[bleak kestrel]

Or hard to hit

[normal shuttle]

nah. Magy gang

[bleak kestrel]

Nah dont think so if its at least 2 tons it would make kinda sense but maybe something 450 is to much something that is 200kg instead maybe

Or 300kg

[normal shuttle]

magy martial arts

[dawn hound]

I am going to get my hands on bary as soon as it releases and the first thing im gonna do is wait for an omni to pounce me and i will rip it with my claws off of my back

[normal shuttle]

spinning around like a beyblade

[bleak kestrel]

We dont know how it will work but imagine you could just grab omni and make it bite the curb

[lone solstice]

I don't mean about the weight, that can be scaled up and down as the devs see fit for the animal.

I mean... Physically, how do they do it? do they... coil their neck around the opponent and throw or? XD

[bleak kestrel]

Bite

[dawn hound]

first of all, an omni shouldnt even challenge a carnivore thats bigger than it in the first place.

[lone solstice]

With the bite alone? I dunno if that makes for a good hold to throw an actively struggling DINOSAUR.

[dawn hound]

yall do replays work on officials im unsure

[wooden agate]

someone send the magy art

[bleak kestrel]

They do have carno on diet rn carno and omni seem like nemesis and i like that ngl

[dawn hound]

Only because its on its diet doesnt mean its a thing theyre immidiatelly ment to hunt, but a thing they can eat.

[bleak kestrel]

Bary tho seems like bit heavier foe and i dont think its much point hunting it if its semi aquatic 2 ton dino

[dawn hound]

Its like some animals can eat certain things because it gives them nutrition. But it doesnt immidiatelly mean its what they were made for to eat. I own a budgerigar, and they like to eat carrots. Where do you think they would specifically find carrots to eat in the nature? They are too big to dig out by their little feet, but it still provides them keratin.

[bleak kestrel]

Omni is still capable of killing carnos in pack

So why not

Its basicaly biggest threat to omnis i think

[dawn hound]

Yea but still, omni can have bary on diet, but doesnt mean they are desired to kill them, since the bary can just swim away, or rip them off their back.

[bleak kestrel]

So it also makes sense why omni would kill it

[bleak kestrel]

Still wouldnt make sense for this to be a thing

Bary wouldnt be like even good option to hunt even as non adult cause it prob could attack while pinned like other omnis do

[dawn hound]

I know, but animals sometimes having something on their diet as i said, doesnt mean they have to kill them immidiatelly. Or at least, they have them on diet cuz they can eat them when theyre little. Like a baby bary being taken down by an omni, sure why not.

[bleak kestrel]

No point of adding something to omnis diets that omni will basicaly risk to much hunting it

[dawn hound]

Its not that the diet is provided only because they are ment to eat it, but because the food so happens to have the same nutrition the thing they eat has, and so thats why its useful.

[bleak kestrel]

Like why would you add something that they wouldnt even want to hunt

Also like i said does omni has ANY semi aquatic as diet? No. Why would it have bary

But what would make sense for bary to have omnis on diet since its so good at countering them

And they kinda share smillar taste in food (bary drowns/attacks tenonto on concept art wnich could mean it like to eat those)

I think bary will he basicaly omni hater lol.

And omni will actually need to avoid it

@normal shuttle prob would love bary even more for that

[normal shuttle]

I need more carnivores that are unique and feel special to play

the carnivore roster right now is so bad

[bleak kestrel]

But if we talk about anything diffrent on bary diet i think something like dilo for example wouldnt be liked by it cause dilo is known to be like "trash food" i think cause no dinos has it as fav food 😭

[normal shuttle]

deino is insufferable, ptera is spectator mode that takes an hour to grow, troodon in live branch is troodon in live branch, omni is annoying, dilo doesn't work or is unfairly broken, there's too many ceras around and carno is mind numbing and cera megapacks are untouchable

Herra is good tho. But we need MORE, and austro is something I pray to be good

also bary obviously

[bleak kestrel]

But like what dilo is all about that no dino want to eat it like lamo xD

[faint folio]

Stego is on omni's diet... Are you saying the dino that excels at flank defense and does 1000 damage on a base hit does not cause Omni to risk too much while hunting it?

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly it makes more sense for it to have stego than bary

Bary has no weakspot for omni. Its basicaly machine that is made to kill them all from what we know form concept art

[normal shuttle]

to be fair omni is probably the best thing you can use vs stego consistently

[dawn hound]

im not arguing over bary being in omnis diet, but i think it COULD be possible for anything similiar to happen. Like as I remember I think I seen people arguing that maia shouldnt be on troodon's food list (or something similiar), but troodon isnt specifically ment to kill something like that when its full grown, but when its a baby, sure why not. Or when an animal stumbles across a corpse of that given animal, it gives a specific nutrition a food its originally ment to hunt has, and is completely unrelated to the animal being ment to hunt the other.

[normal shuttle]

bary can just run into the water and omni can just eat sh about it

[bleak kestrel]

Troodon can kill maia tho...
It can put down stegos...

In a pack but it can

[faint folio]

It doesn't make sense for bary to have Omni in its diet either. It may be well suited to defend against Omni, but I don't think it's well kitted to hunt Omni (which is faster, agile, and quite hard to catch).

Teno is suggested diet because teno is supposed to be somewhat semi-aquatic - hence the fast swim speed for it

[dawn hound]

I know, but i seen people arguing over something similiar, and you get what i mean.

[bleak kestrel]

Some omni gets a drink and bam bye bye

[normal shuttle]

too situational

bary can just get the organs anyway

and the fish around

[bleak kestrel]

I guess but i still think it could eat omnis like as fav food but idk

[normal shuttle]

if you want it to have a raptor in its diet so bad, austro makes far more sense

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah it does omni really likes KFT

Kentucky fried troodon

[dawn hound]

As i explained, food doesnt have to be preffered because youre ment to hunt it. And I know this is a herbivore example, but again, parrots cant get carrots from the dirt, but they can still eat it, since it provides keratin. Imagine you stumble across something that you arent capable to hunt but youre still able to eat it. It doesnt have to be specifically bary and omni, its just with quite literally anything.

[faint folio]

Bary's flanks/hips don't count as a weak spot? Tbh the real dinosaur probably couldn't reach around to claw at its sides/back. It would dislocate its arms trying. And even if you excuse realism (see: Herrera), the arms of bary honestly don't even look like they could reach the hips/thighs/rear pounce slots

Besides, bary can always retreat to the water, and what can Omni do? Bary doesn't NEED zero weakspots to Omni because water is a hard counter

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i hope herrera will be semi aquatic in some way snd have less stam drain in water

[bleak kestrel]

I bet solo bary could take on like 5 omnis cause no pounce for them kinda means thier main weapon to kill big things is gone

[normal shuttle]

doesn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[faint folio]

True, but also to be fair, it really should not be. The tail and spine plates should be exceptionally good at covering zones Omnis can pounce, and pouncing directly on the tail should be a death sentence

[dawn hound]

I main herrera i dont think they should be, they are already arboreal, but I think that herrera shouldnt loose stamina when staying still in water

[faint folio]

I mean... I really doubt bary will be pounce proof. I REALLY doubt it. Maybe the bary will have the ability to rip Omni off the front 2 pounce slots, but I don't see them reaching the back 2 slots; besides concept art regularly shows potential abilities that never actually end up in game because it is concept art. If there's another source confirming the bary will get this ability Id love to hear about it, though 🙂

Plus it doesn't even need the ability to remove pouncers because I'm pretty sure submerging in water knocks pouncers off, and Bary is semiaquatic

[faint folio]

Tbh I think it's because there's nothing that would particularly excel at hunting dilo right now. Deino isn't on anything's diet either except other deinos because it's not realistically killable by anything else

[gritty heart]

The humble carno

[faint folio]

Tbh carno is in a really weird place where the devs kinda seem like they don't know what they want it to be. Based on their description as a "small game hunter" you'd think the carno should have dilo on its diet

[normal shuttle]

it should be because omnis are built for that. they are small and nimble that works to avoid high stam cost, devastating blows while also having an ability that deals high damage in small openings while draining stamina passively if they move, which is detrimental for stego and other large animals while also going over tactile endurance, countering herbivore tanks

Risky but doable, and I won't be surprised if allo performs well as a pouncer too.

[ancient kestrel]

Acro will be pretty unique I guess, since the way it kills is by draining your oxygen literally on land

[normal shuttle]

game design takes prioirity

I laugh at summit and hutch like people saying stego is unbeatable

when they only play cera

they have never tried anything else like dibble or omni that are steg's biggest counters

"you can only beat stegos overpacking or cheating!!!"

They know more about balance, 1 ton defensive corpse bully should have a better matchup against a slow defensive herbivore than an agile big game pack hunter because bigger carnivore

[normal shuttle]

yup

acro is unique

[ancient kestrel]

I remember that something actually have deino in diet

[wooden agate]

cerato

omni had it for a while too i believe

[ancient kestrel]

Yeah. That one

[wooden agate]

but omnis deino got replaced w/ dibble

[faint folio]

Neither Omni nor cerato really eat deino of any age, though. They're not set up to properly hunt nor scavenge from the carcasses that are usually in the water. It really feels like a placeholder until other semiaquatics are in that would actually make sense hunting young deinos

[ancient kestrel]

Well it's reasonable for cera because:
1)scavenger
2)good swimmer

You don't have issues as cera picking up body floating in water

[faint folio]

They faster swimmers, but they're not good by any means when compared to the semiaquatic deino and beipi (who can also submerge). Honestly long term I could see deino removed from cerato diet and given to spino, such, and bary

Gah autocorrect hates dinosaurs

[ancient kestrel]

Nah. It won't happening. And deino corpses are quite often can be found on land too

Or just hunt down "land" deinos

[normal shuttle]

omnis can catch small deinos especially in water access. They are very easy pickings

And cera was mostly there to have something that can eat deinos if the opportunity presents itself. It's doable with smaller ones or land deinos but yeah, if anything I see bary standing a better chance

[ancient kestrel]

I think it will be odd for bary have deino in diet

[faint folio]

I haven't run into a deino corpse on land in... Quite a while, tbh. And to be fair, land Deinos deserve to be killed because going far from the water is so obviously a bad idea reinforced by stamina, speed, water drain, etc

[unique kindle]

Hello, I'd like to speak with someone knowledgeable about the topic who can help me, if possible via direct message. I'm interested in learning more about the game's server configuration. I'm from a Spanish-speaking server, and we're trying to figure out how to make nighttime disappear, so it's always daytime. Please excuse my poor English; I speak Spanish. Thank you very much in advance. I hope you can help me!

[ancient kestrel]

I still think that water drain on deino a little bit rough. It's not a fish to die without water so quick

[faint folio]

Eh, bary would likely be hunting juvi Deinos before they start putting on weight. That seems to be the intent behind several animals on diet (ptera on deino diet, etc)

I do agree about the water drain though... It is rather punishing 😅

[ancient kestrel]

I think that all diets are balanced around adult forms not juvies

[bleak kestrel]

Thats only thing i noticed in concept art that is interesting rest is kinda not really something interesting to me

[modest dock]

@dawn hound adding to your suggestion that is , to me, better than the actual migration zones, is that current ones are pretty much the same for a lot of playables, there are a lot of places unused on the map that i usually just run through and think "hey, there is never any food around here" or "that beach is pretty but imma starve soon", its better to get larger migration zones with , why not, smallers zones in it where we can find our nutrients, there should be more ai, more life everywhere, but coming with some balance and should be used properly by MZ / PZ

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly if plants were spread more on migration zone depending on what diet they are it also would be nice

And i think in map menu it should tell you where are migration zones.

[unique kindle]

Can anyone help me with that?

[bleak kestrel]

From what i see from concept art of acro it has.

-Suffacte mechanic

-charged bite/strong bite attack?

-something about mud idk what tho...

[ancient kestrel]

You asking about this in wrong channel #server-hosting

[ancient kestrel]

last one is just wallow mechanic lol.

[thorn widget]

Close dlss in menu and activate in server, it will fix.

@gilded estuary

[bleak kestrel]

Oh well nice to know.

I thought it something actually special but no.

[ancient kestrel]

I mean you could have guess it too

[bleak kestrel]

You know i thought acro was pretty fresh concept art compare to others

So that why i didint thought its just showcasing feature for all dinos that is already ingame for quite long

[normal shuttle]

acro is peak (rex is better regardless)

[ancient kestrel]

Rex is perfection just by nature - I can't deny it.

But no my favourite dino either

[bleak kestrel]

T-rex honestly doesnt really is interesting for me

Like everywhere i see rex

[ancient kestrel]

Well mechanically it will have a lot in game

[bleak kestrel]

I mean that nice

But like i more curious about rugops lmao

Than rex

Cause rugops its mystery on how it will actually be special

Like im more interested in dinos with interesting gameplay

Well actually no

Rex gameplay will be probably one of most interesting ones cause how much it will change from quick and weak to slower and strong basicaly being oppisite as adult at what it was when juvie

But like rex is just all about being strong and killing stuff from concept art

Its kinda like every carni tho all abillites are combat based

Expect herrera or ptera

It feels sometimes bit lame ngl 😦

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message @buoyant dove man that literally just bootleg of elder mechanic

[bleak kestrel]

Like omni was supposed to be able to walk/run or even semi climb on harsher terrain

[normal shuttle]

nah rex is goat

[bleak kestrel]

I wish it could be good at being sneaky

Like it was in real life basicaly being so sneaky that before you could hear him get close you would feel vibration form the ground

[normal shuttle]

the thing with adult rex is that

you gotta work for those ambushes

and that's great and skilled. Deino but good design

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i also think rex should have like best smell of all dinos

[ancient kestrel]

Deino already a good design by being literal hazard of water sources

[bleak kestrel]

Nah dude

Honestly deino feels like it lacks something like more water to travel.

Also it feels like it was added to early

[normal shuttle]

nah it's terrible design. It's just a playable environmental hazard that has zero agency over its own life compared to everyone else.

Safe spots completely counter it, ambushes are not interesting and they are crazy unfair in many places for your prey unless they use safe spots, completely at the mercy of other deinos especially when grown and most of the important hotspot water sources are disconnected from the spawns forcing you to travel

deino is GARBAGE. Easily the worst playable in the game for fun and game design purposes.

not hard to deal with, not interesting...Just a 6+ hour long gamble

It needs the rework

And badly

[ancient kestrel]

Deino serves purpose

[bleak kestrel]

I died to deino today cause i wasnt careful plus i was really out of water

[ancient kestrel]

And does it good

[normal shuttle]

arguably not really

[bleak kestrel]

What purpose? To make you unable to drink water

[ancient kestrel]

Yes really. It makes people fear waters. You can't deny

[normal shuttle]

woah, amazing game design and great purpose.

If you drink in 99% of a river's surface you are gambling for your life but if you hide behind a rock while drinking they literally can't do anything about it. Such an interesting water hazard

[normal shuttle]

it makes people use safe drinking spots and by extension deino lives miserable.

[bleak kestrel]

Issue is lack of water around a map and semi aquatic for deino to prey on

Like tell my why there is swamp?

Like this whole biome feels empty and its biome where deino has most freedom...

[normal shuttle]

Issue is:
-Deino lurking being completely unfair for your target more often than not
-Deino having zero tools to deal with shallow water and safe spots with its current kit
-No semi aquatics to prey on or ambush other than deinos

[normal shuttle]

swamp is arguably the worst place for large deinos lmao

So many safe drinking spots and stuff covering your sight so you cannot see someone approaching to go for a drink. And also no common deep watter drinking spots.

Deino needs the rework to be able to do something about it and also give players a chance to see it coming if they are aware

[bleak kestrel]

I think the more water would fix deino so he could travel to more places easier but also i think deino could make water moves when he speeds up so if you pay attention you would know something is underwater

[normal shuttle]

it is baffling to think that deino in spiro was even worse when land deino wasn't a thing

[bleak kestrel]

So if you take to long to drink so deino could just slowly approach you will die

[normal shuttle]

literally at the mercy of the local crocs

you make a pack or you die. great playable

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah most of times i basicaly get killed by bigger crocs when i play it (freshspawn killed by fg for some reson)

[ancient kestrel]

You not getting greater scale of this. Since water sources are dangerous people are either can choose different aproaches which may have some consequences:
1)Go to drinking but it will make you possibly vulnerable to land predator which aware of such spots and set up ambush on you
2)Pick reabsorption, food-to-water, less water drain muts to carry less about water
3)Go to other water source which may not have deion but you will have to cross protion map which may lead to encounter with other player.
1 playable forces people make a lot of interesting decisions but it is somehow bad design lmao

[bleak kestrel]

Like i think deino should be more a threat to more dinos but also if ur careful you could actually avoid it and the bigger dino is the easier it could escape.

[normal shuttle]

it is bad design because it is miserable to play as, since it completely relies on other crocs and terrible players to survive. And then on top of that it is a gamble unless you use a cheese method

design wise deino is defunct

[ancient kestrel]

Issue with deino is more a map design than deino itself. And we already see some fixes like North lake having direct connection to delta river on HT

[bleak kestrel]

Oh

[normal shuttle]

deino is also bad with the amount of safe drinking spots that exist. but also if you remove those, then it would be unfair for prey since they cant hear nor see deinos approaching and one tapping them unlike herras that can be both heard and seen

Solution? Deino kit adjustments which are also planned

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i think we still need more water like it kinda would make game feel better and places wouldnt feel that empty

[normal shuttle]

and well, depends on what you mean by more water

even with 200 players around, there's still a huge surface of water that is impossible to keep supervised as a deino even if there were somehow 70 adult crocs around

[ancient kestrel]

I mean I can't deny that deino is lacking in its kit but it definitely not a bad design since it really have great potential and role in ecosystem

[bleak kestrel]

Rivers to SP and highlands and also maybe add like bridges that are but in the water so if not careful you could be cought by deino

[normal shuttle]

Deino is a headache

needs the entire map to cater to it or else it's garbo/reliant on cannibalism and stomping noobs

[normal shuttle]

It has great potential and the idea is interesting, but it needs some fixes

needed them for a while in fact. But as I said, at least it's better than in spiro lol

spiro was hell

[ancient kestrel]

Which I can't deny. It just started like you was talking that it deeply flawed by design

[normal shuttle]

with one narrow river plagued with deinos and a swamp no one visited. Drinking was a gamble and so was surviving as a croc too because you are at the mercy of the local croc gang: nowhere to hide, unable to flee or fight

[ancient kestrel]

Spiro had better connected water sources at certain map edition

[normal shuttle]

its current implementation is deeply flawed. Potential is what something can become, not what it is now

[ancient kestrel]

I think adding more water source connections and adjustment to deino mechanics and addition to it - will sove issue with this playble. And wee see some signs that devs are thinking on that. Hence planned deino kit adjustments and recent map changes on HT

[normal shuttle]

yes

looking forward to it

[ancient kestrel]

Deino really some sort of historical staple of Evrima since it was one of a first playbles which clearly stood out from legacy roster. Hell, I am pretty sure that I started play Evrima only when croc arrived

Even tho it wasn't first thing I played on this branch

#general-feedback message @modest dock no game company ever was able to get rid of hackers and cheaters once and for all lmao. Otherwise they already would have been the reachest people

[wooden agate]

hell, even roblox (a multibillion dollar company) was only able to subdue exploiters and hackers for a year or so and even then, they literally had to hire someone who helped create the exploits to fix the exploits lol

hackers are always going to exist to some degree, that's just gaming

a better anti cheat is needed though. idk why they don't go with battle eye or something

[sterile shale]

I think this would only be good if they add a larger pterosaur

[limber hull]

quetz

[sterile shale]

Pretty much lol

[unreal ridge]

@daring talon I would like to see kinda like an outline of the clone and what its doing so i can coordinate an attack with it
using the clone to bait an attack from my prey then darting in for a bite would be super useful for dilo

[daring talon]

yeah

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message i like this idea ngl

[gritty heart]

Para should be able to launch snot ICBMs

[limber hull]

incorrect

monolophosaurus

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message the epitome of skill.

B-but omni is so weak and unplayable!!

And you can miss the pounce and it needs a lot of coordination and timing to get it right! It’s not even good at pinning things down 😭

[limber hull]

in the defence of the omni

what in god's name was that galli doing

full stam, strong lead

turns around into the omni???

[wooden agate]

he was trying to survive

just not very hard

[limber hull]

also from the video we can see multiple omnis

omni pin aside, that was one of the worst galli plays i have ever seen

[modest dock]

Doesn't mean that they shouldn't do anything about it, doesn't mean that their anti cheat is efficient either

[normal shuttle]

Okay

What if I wanna fight an omni?

Without pinning it isn’t that bad of a matchup and in fact it leans in the Omnis favor

But nah, they had to give the big game hunter the best anti small game ability to have ever existed

@feral karma lol, gambling explicitly affecting someone’s run, great idea /s

Sure would love to get 60kg less as a pachy by chance so I can be pinned by omnis

And less blood too

[feral karma]

When I said rare I meant like insanely rare like a .1% chance of getting

Not exactly a .1% chance but something like it

[normal shuttle]

Still pointless

Because you are giving an unfair advantage to someone or they could just yeet themselves if they get dwarfism to reroll their dino

And if they can only know they are mutated after growing up then it’s even more of a garbage mechanic

[feral karma]

No not something you only know you have when your full grown but when you start the run when you look in your mutation menu it will be somewhere that tells you if you have

[normal shuttle]

Imagine doing everything the game tells you and hitting adult as a spino, just for the game to give you the middle finger and give you an everlasting debuff

[normal shuttle]

Then everyone would reroll all the time

Average? They die asap
Smaller? They die asap
Bigger? Good to go

[feral karma]

Plus it was just an idea I had while thinking of ways for the game to be more realistic didn’t know you’d get so offended by it

[normal shuttle]

I am not offended

I am criticizing what I feel is a bad idea

Which is what this channel is for

And I am explaining why I think that way

[feral karma]

I know I was joking

[normal shuttle]

Well

Time travel then

[feral karma]

No

[normal shuttle]

Yes

[feral karma]

Make me

[normal shuttle]

Heat a burrito then

[feral karma]

No

Stop trying to make me do stuff this server is for talking about the feedback that’s been given

[normal shuttle]

Anyways

@pine drum I love having half of the map completely unused and most people hanging around south plains and west rail

[wintry whale]

@plain river Please check the pinned comments in the official server channels to see how to report hackers

[placid anchor]

#general-feedback message
Disable DLSS and set 3D render to 100%
The screenshots show a before and after example. It may not be very noticeable due to the low monitor resolution, but if you look closely, the grass and other small details are more blurred in the first screenshot.

[ancient kestrel]

I just hope that once utah arrived devs will nerf omnis pin in favor of utah

[normal shuttle]

Or maybe don’t have a mechanic that works like pin does atm

Since it’s garbo and the greatest example is with cannibal omnis

Whoever pounces first wins

[ancient kestrel]

I mean't it's a raptor. They literally were mesozoic birds of prey. Ofc pin will be mechanic for those. It not even worth discussing

[normal shuttle]

It is fine per se to have a pinning mechanic

But not a haha I win you lose one button press on something one kilogram lighter than you

[ancient kestrel]

Pin mechanic need adjustments for sure. Like more animals fight back when they pinned from the front

Beipi, troo and omni already do that if they got pinned from wrong direction. Also funny that as for troodon usually raptor dies from pinning you if it's not adult

[normal shuttle]

If it is a juvenile close to the troodon’s size only really

[normal shuttle]

Also locational pinning could work. Making it so only really from the sides it works. Or from behind and against the body of course

But not stuff like tail hits or frontal pinning while your opponent does absolutely nothing to defend itself

[ancient kestrel]

I am pretty sure that I getting killed juvie omni almost 3 times being bigger than me just from geting me pinned

[normal shuttle]

Yeah same happened to me once with like a 100kg juvenile

But you are done with anything larger

[ancient kestrel]

Idk how much damage do beipi when pinned but proabbly a ton of

[normal shuttle]

Not really

You’re cooked by sub Omnis too

[torn bluff]

I was making the trek on a Deino to south plains and I am walking up to the first river/ waterfall no health missing, water had just turned red seconds ago and a baby cero runs out and bites me and my bleed goes to zero in 1.5 seconds. That has to be hacking right?

[topaz glade]

#general-feedback message I like this idea! And this sound will be louder than normal “f”

[normal shuttle]

Obviously

Report them as you are told on the pinned messages of official server chats

[ancient kestrel]

I wonder why hera don't do that

[normal shuttle]

The power of the OCraptor

[ancient kestrel]

Btw I am curious what abilities aurstro will have

Except swimming

[normal shuttle]

Kicking

Also carrying baby on its back

Which is peak parent behavior. Better than Maia

It can attack with the baby on its back

In the concept

[ancient kestrel]

I remeber that devs also shown some sort of kick ainmation for omni

Or may be it's just for missed pounce

[ancient kestrel]

Parrenting behaviour possibly shown for allo too but it may be just for a joke

Proabbly was just test of carrying animation and downscaled allo model in hands was just place holder for whatever body it supposed to carry

[ancient kestrel]

We often have seen how certain things on concept didn't make a cut in game. Sadly

[urban flax]

I know what you're talking about
This wasn't made by a dev

[bleak kestrel]

Wonder if it will have pounce

[normal shuttle]

No, please no

[normal shuttle]

They’ve also shown a kick animation for austro

[ancient kestrel]

Oh? Good then

[normal shuttle]

Second latest devblog I believe

Water alt attack where it lightly turns the body and kicks

[limber hull]

i dont think austro has been shown to have a pounce, surprisingly

[normal shuttle]

I am glad

We don’t need yet another pouncer and also the size of omni

Way to murder austro’s identity and pollute its playerbase with terrible players

[ancient kestrel]

I mean it will be odd turning heron fish eater into pouncer

It might have pin tho but idk

[limber hull]

https://clan.fastly.steamstatic.com/images//10915315/eedec7d1e9ce4480d506f152b32afa0ba2b8e6c8.gif

there is this but i dont think it is a latch

more like an aquatic kick

[woeful latch]

it would be even weirder if austro wouldn’t use its sharp claws

[ancient kestrel]

That what I thinking too

[woeful latch]

and i don’t see any other use other than pin/pounce

[ancient kestrel]

Kick

[woeful latch]

perhaps

[bleak kestrel]

I think it could use his leap that it hunts fish with as pin or attack

But idk

Not like it really need it

[limber hull]

it looks like it'll already hunt by leaping into the water, and i doubt elite fish will be its go-to

[normal shuttle]

Austro catching elite fish would be goated

Free lipids too and also deino counter

I wonder…who the hell is gonna pose a threat to austro?

[limber hull]

beipi, deino, bary, basically any land creature it's unfortunate enough to encounter, herrera

[woven bane]

beipi? lol

[normal shuttle]

Kos beipis keeping the austro population in check would be hilarious

Murdering juvies and subs

[limber hull]

yes, beipi, absolutely

[woven bane]

in numbers sure

[limber hull]

unless austro has bleed resist i'm gonna fear for it if its spotted by a beipi

[woven bane]

beipi will most likely get 3 tapped by it

[normal shuttle]

I am guessing it won’t wallow as a semi aquatic

[limber hull]

if the beipi remains as agile as it is in the water, and austro has no bleed res, it won't matter that much

[normal shuttle]

Same goes for austro if it starts running around

[limber hull]

it also only takes a few hits from a dryo to kill a beipi but beipi can really mess it up

[woven bane]

comes down to how good austro will be in the water

[limber hull]

and austro is SUPPOSED to be mobile

[normal shuttle]

I hope austro gets goated bleed too

Would be hilarious to ambush people who go for a drink to bleed them out

[limber hull]

with its bleed pounce :)

[normal shuttle]

Although I’m guessing bary will deal the highest bleed in the carnivore roster besides allo when it releases

And omni full bleed pounce ig

[normal shuttle]

[limber hull]

why bary? i can think of a few others that'd do more

[lilac bolt]

giga

[normal shuttle]

Seriously, I like austro and I’m looking forward to it because most carnis are super lame

But if they make it a pouncer I’m crashing out

[limber hull]

megalania, giga for some

[lilac bolt]

yup

[normal shuttle]

Cuz claws

Also I meant by the time it’s added, which will be before most of the roster technically. I kinda cheated there

Ofc giga, spino, meg and others will do more

Even acro ngl

Or sucho if it gets claw attacks

[lilac bolt]

theri I feel could do good bleed

[bleak kestrel]

Herrera airdropping on unsupecting austro:

Ngl i think austro will be very light

Like max 600kg

[ancient kestrel]

i doubt that it will be that big in Evrima

Right estimates are around 350 kg

[lilac bolt]

how much does omni weigh rn?

[bleak kestrel]

Its bigger than omni

[ancient kestrel]

Uhm... No? It is much thinner

[bleak kestrel]

450kg is omni and austro should be heavier

[ancient kestrel]

Where you seen it bigger than omni?

[bleak kestrel]

Its still noticeable that omni is way smaller on concept art

[ancient kestrel]

Concept arts don't represent scale of in-game charachter. It was said thousands of times

[bleak kestrel]

You get that thats really only thing i could represent by?

Also omni isn't utah

I think they will up austro size

It will be lighter by utah but i dont think so with omni

[ancient kestrel]

What utah have to do with that? I wasn't even mentioned it

[bleak kestrel]

I it could be 400-600kg not lower or higher

[ancient kestrel]

I think they wouldn't make austro bigger than omni just for balance purposes

[bleak kestrel]

It being lighter than galli seems bit off

[woven bane]

austro dosen’t really need to be massive

[ancient kestrel]

Btw I am glad that austro will be first feathered raptor addition in Evrima. I am getting sick of bald omni and troo

(I know austro already had feathera in Legacy - you may not remind me that)

[normal shuttle]

It doesn’t need to

Just give it crazy retaliation damage and we’re good

[ancient kestrel]

I think they will save big raptor role fore utah

[normal shuttle]

400kg austro is fine

[normal shuttle]

600kg Utah would be goated

[bleak kestrel]

Imagine feathered omni or troodon

It would look dum

[ancient kestrel]

Btw, was there any official artowork of utah?

[bleak kestrel]

I could see utah being even 800kg

[normal shuttle]

BRUH

BRUH BRUH BRUH

BRUUUUUUH!!!!

[bleak kestrel]

They upsize everything dude

[normal shuttle]

[ancient kestrel]

He is bulky

[bleak kestrel]

Dilo is like 2x times his weight isnt it?

[normal shuttle]

Only egregious examples I can think of are dibble and spino (justified)

[woeful latch]

yeah 600 for utah is cringe, even dilo is 700

[normal shuttle]

No lol, dilo estimates put it at 600-700

[woeful latch]

800-850kg utah, trust

[normal shuttle]

It was big

[bleak kestrel]

Oh

[normal shuttle]

And then there’s a bunch of shrinks like carno and beipi

[vital laurel]

@pine drum it’s still in the server settings, if you want it you could find or make a server with it

[woeful latch]

the reason i expect them to make utah a lot bigger than it was irl is to make it better solo playable and brawler, if they make it smaller it will be the same omni just a bit heavier.

but bigger utah with the smaller pack limit would be good

[ancient kestrel]

Ahem. No. Not everything beipi is scaled down in comparison to its IRL counterpart. Also carno too.

[normal shuttle]

600-650kg Utah seems good enough. You could then simply give it other tools to be a good brawler

[woeful latch]

i know how weird that sounds, but utah being good solo playable is an amazing idea imo

[bleak kestrel]

Someone Already said that

Also you guys know that herrera is like 2x lighter right?

[woeful latch]

idk really, it’s basically bigger omni, i don’t see how you can add unique stuff to it

[normal shuttle]

It is not weird. It’s perfectly reasonable with omni in game

[woeful latch]

nice

[bleak kestrel]

"its bigger omni" you dont even know what it will have

[normal shuttle]

You can probably do something about it

[normal shuttle]

The devs don’t know either lol

[bleak kestrel]

Utah being solo is only type of thing we should get ngl

[woeful latch]

it bigger omni visually and what dino it is lol. ofc no one knows

[woeful latch]

idk really, the only good solution (imo) is to make it significantly heavier than omni, with worse turn radius, slower, but more hp/damage and stuff

[bleak kestrel]

If it wieght like 50% more at minimum it could be more of brute force dino than just bleed most of time

Also utah sickle claws aint no joke

[ancient kestrel]

Yeah. Kissen said that they didn't finished conceptualization stage on that one

[normal shuttle]

You can make more than beefier omni

[woeful latch]

yeah i honestly don’t really like an idea of making utah just a bleeder, i would like certified brawler instead.

[bleak kestrel]

Utah was basicaly build to put down prey more than twice its weight solo

[woeful latch]

how?

[normal shuttle]

Ideas

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examples