general-feedback-discussion

[gritty heart]

no clue about the tap thing tbh

[buoyant socket]

i have been playing a sever and when i click it in the menu it says my cano at 40 percent growth but when i load into the sever its making me create a new dino, this was after the game kicked me for no reason anyuone know why?

[gritty heart]

ill pass on the diarrhea mechanic xd

[woeful latch]

server wipe or it just rolled back

[waxen oracle]

@pulsar prawn I think the difficulty with implementing the system for mixpack prevention you put forward would be situations where there’s a hunt of attrition happening. Like starving out raptors at raptor rock in North Plains or a long-standing fight in north plains that’s on and off. You could end up debuffing people that are legitimately using their dinosaurs such that they can’t actually do what they need to do.

[indigo gulch]

^

[waxen oracle]

Also just thought about it but Deino mixpacking would be hard to stop because lots of animals congregate around rivers or ponds and everyone would be constantly debuffed because of swamp puppies simply existing

[indigo gulch]

that's always the problem with the debuff systems. It never accounts for actual hunts

[modest dock]

@rugged timber adding to your feedback, trike mixpackers or mixpackers in general are a real problem, just been hunted down by a couple of cerato/trike , idk if there is a way to prevent that kind of behavior but it sucks

[pulsar prawn]

As I said before, the system would ignore species that do not migrate constantly and are forced to stay in a place where other dinosaurs live, either by water sources or by the presence of other dinosaurs.

These dinosaurs as an example would be

• Beipi
• Deino
• Herrera
  etc

[rugged timber]

no there isnt the devs need to make some rules thats the only way to prevent that

[pulsar prawn]

Among other proposals I have in mind to try to eliminate this type of behavior:

1. Restriction of Mixed Herds (Herbivores + Carnivores)

Since players have free will, the system should encourage herbivores and carnivores not to group together artificially.

Automatic Mechanics to Avoid Mixed Groups

• Instinctive Aversion: Implement a mechanic where dinosaurs (controlled by players) feel uncomfortable being near opposing species for too long.

Example: A herbivore staying close to a carnivore will suffer negative effects such as stress (faster energy loss, lower health regeneration).

• Carnivores can also suffer stress if they are surrounded by too many herbivores without attacking.

Mistrust and Isolation:

• If a herbivore is surrounded by carnivores, it may receive morale penalties, reducing its reaction speed and making it more vulnerable to panic.
• If a carnivore does not attack a herbivore within a certain amount of time, it could receive a hunger or disorientation debuff, incentivizing predatory instinct rather than cooperation.

Passive AI Intolerance:

• NPCs or certain environmental events may intervene if there is an unnatural concentration of mixed species.

[modest dock]

✅

[normal shuttle]

[modest dock]

thats sounds good actually

[normal shuttle]

why

why won't the mixpack debuff suggestion keep spawning

[modest dock]

that works too, but i don't think they will ever do

[normal shuttle]

why won't all these clueless newomers acknowledge that anti mixpack debuffs or "stress" for the most part are just something that can be used by mixpackers as a weapon or as a griefing mechanic?

I'd sure love to have a thing I cannot catch running around and debuffing me so that his buddy just comes by and kills me

Stop

😭

[thick summit]

Debuffs won't work

In order to stop mixpacking you need a mechanic that's implemented in the gameplay loop

I can't think of any that could work though

But the debuff stuff would get abused as hell

[normal shuttle]

precisely

and idk why can't people get it through their skull

[white elm]

society if there was an easy mixpacking fix:

[normal shuttle]

did they start playing yesterday and got third partied or something?

[thick summit]

Third partying ain't that much of a problem

[normal shuttle]

ik

but some crybabies call it mixpacking which I find laughable

just because someone joins in a fight or third parties fter it's over

[thick summit]

When I play solo cera and see an ongoing fight I stay hidden and strike at the perfect moment

[white elm]

99% of the time when people say herreras are mixpacking with something, they aren't

they're just taking advantage of the weakest member of the fight

[indigo gulch]

why should pz food get buffed?

[thick summit]

It shouldn't provide food at all

[indigo gulch]

isnt the whole point of pz to be temporary

[thick summit]

People shouldn't stick at South plains

[indigo gulch]

that too

why is pz supposed to keep apexes fed

[thick summit]

Just increase the plant values so massive herds can nest and make plants only spawn in migration zones

Problem solved

[normal shuttle]

region2 spawn lake, old v3 gulf pond, new v3 twin lakes, old spiro swamp, new spiro center and south plains as the ultimate PvP gathering hotspots

https://tenor.com/view/sully-walk-monsters-inc-gif-16339267

[indigo gulch]

I can't remember the last time I went to migration as a carni and actually found a herbivore or 2 there

[brave jewel]

wtf is going on with trikes killing each other so much, this is stupid

[thick summit]

Play trike on a community server when it drops

[brave jewel]

yea, im done with the hord test

[normal shuttle]

deal with it. There isn't enough food and people also wanna test trike in combat instead of cuddling 24/7

[indigo gulch]

bored, also average apex herbivore player

[normal shuttle]

or just quit, that works too

[thick summit]

Istg, the game was so much better pre-patrol zonrs

[brave jewel]

a full grown trike killing babies is fighting?

[normal shuttle]

it's definitely combat testing

[thick summit]

Just wait until trike releases and play it on a community server

[normal shuttle]

and also hoarding resources which there arent many

[indigo gulch]

to be fair, this happens every time

[normal shuttle]

^

[thick summit]

It happened with maia and dibble too

[brave jewel]

yea, herbi players are trash and toxic af lmao

[thick summit]

It's getting even worse when trike gets sparring

[indigo gulch]

but maia isnt a strong 1v1'er so :/

[thick summit]

HT maia was a beast

[normal shuttle]

then you shouldnt be dying to cannis more than once or twice

Once you die to a trike, it is much safer to stay away from all of them unless you are stronger or they can't catch you. Thinking everyone is your friend in The Isle is a quick way to return to the character selection menu

[thick summit]

Woah! Not every herbi player is that awful

[indigo gulch]

oh yeah, but it isnt rn

[thick summit]

I literally avoided every trike on the HT

That's how I reached adulthood

[thick summit]

It got some buffs on the ht and I'll check it out tomorrow

[normal shuttle]

go back to playing dilo or cera then, instead of malding because you trusted a competitor stronger than you

[brave jewel]

thats crazy lol, but i guess thats what you gotta do

[indigo gulch]

it's 1 of the reasons the game will never be 100% to begin with

the players don't act like actual herbis/carnis

a lot of people dont play this as a survival game, but a pvp game

[thick summit]

Well, people on officials don't

[brave jewel]

thats so true lol

[normal shuttle]

same, I was charged by other trikes early on and immediately assumed it was wiser to hide and avoid them until I was stronger. That's how I also grew mine and killed others

[white elm]

define acting like an actual herbi

is it cuddling with other herbis and running from something twice as small as you?

[normal shuttle]

^

[indigo gulch]

90% of the herbivores do not KOS

[pulsar prawn]

1. Preventing Overpacking (Excess of Same Species in a Group)

Overpacking limits the game by causing large groups of the same species to dominate the ecosystem, which can break the survival experience.

Natural In-Game Solutions

Competition for Resources: The larger the herd, the faster resources will be depleted:

• Large herds of carnivores will consume more prey content, forcing dispersal.
• Herbivores in massive groups would deplete food, forcing migration and separation.

Social Stress System:

• If a herd exceeds this number, dinosaurs will begin to experience stress, which will reduce their energy or cause infighting.

• Overpopulation Stress:
  To respect the natural “social limit”. Dinosaurs in groups that are too large will experience stress, reducing:

• Endurance (they tire faster).

• Accuracy in combat (less effective attacks).

• Slower health regeneration.

2.

Mechanisms that Encourage Dispersion.

• Pack Dynamics” System (Intelligent Pack)
  If players are in illegal packs and follow each other without officially being in the allowed group, the system can modify the game AI to treat them as one pack, even if they are not.

Herd Dynamics Effects:

• Increased Detection by Prey and Predators:

• The larger the group, the easier it will be detected.

• Prey may flee early, making hunting more difficult.

• AI predators or environmental events will attack more frequently.

Implementation of “Automatic Herd Disengagement”.

If players attempt to coordinate externally, the system can force separation digitally without blocking their freedom.

How It Works:

• Disabling Group Markers:

If there are more than X players outside of an official pack following each other, the game disables their names, icons or team chat.
This makes coordinating much more difficult.

• Character Behavior Alteration:

If a player is in an illegal herd, the dinosaur could become more aggressive or erratic without user intervention.
Example: A herbivore that feels pressured by being in too large a group could make false attacks against allies.

[brave jewel]

ive been kosd 4 times, i havent gotten past 13 percent, all other grown trikes

[thick summit]

I had an adult trike 2 calling me. I crossed a river at River delta to get some distance between us. I used speed mutations to get away from larger trikes. I ran through a forest and hid between some bushes. My trike is greenish and guess what...the "friendly" trike was still looking for me

[normal shuttle]

because they are stupid too. Humans have a hard time roleplaying as something far stupider than them

I can assure you, not only animals like horses or cows will charge at anything that is too close to them or their young, but if they were smart enough they would actively pursue possible predators and their young if there's any sign of their presence

[white elm]

hippos will munch on anything that enters their territory

[indigo gulch]

You cannot bring young into the argument. That's a whole other variable that applies to basically any animal

[brave jewel]

at least we know whos kosing in here lmao

[indigo gulch]

Glad you found 1 example when I said 90% bro. That's real cool. That's exactly why I said 90%

[white elm]

cows, rhinos, etc

[indigo gulch]

damn bro, that's still not more than 10%

[normal shuttle]

okay, there's still many herbivores in nature that kill even other herbivores in their territory or if they get too close even for their food. Predation is far from being the only source of violence in nature

[thick summit]

It really depends

[brave jewel]

cows dont kill each other, bulls fight but they dont fight to the death, ive never seen a cow kill another cow

[indigo gulch]

course not, cuse mating rituals and fighting for the females exist

[brave jewel]

and im around bulls all the time so..

[thick summit]

Real animals have feelings. They can have traumas, anger issues or just hate a certain species

[indigo gulch]

But even those herbis don't usually go for the kill

[normal shuttle]

and again, irl herbivores aren't as smart as humans and you cannot force them to pretend they are dumber than they actually are

I have zero doubt that if an actual herbivore was as smart as I am, it would still kill smaller predators or their young on sight or even actively go out of its way to find any when not hungry/tired simply because it ensures its future safety

[white elm]

its unreasonable to expect herbis to not kos

[normal shuttle]

you are ignoring that and it is a big point that takes away value from comparisons to nature

[thick summit]

Sometimes even a rhino chooses not to fight a lion because it's scared of it

[indigo gulch]

me waiting for the reason why that you somehow didn't already immediately include:

[white elm]

why SHOULD I let a big omni pack crowd around me and do nothing about it?

[normal shuttle]

we, as the players, are NOT animals

Of course we will not behave exactly like them even though our choices can still be reasonable

[white elm]

acting like an "actual herbivore" wouldn't be very fun would it

and it'd probably get me killed more often than not

[indigo gulch]

irrelevant, we were talking about herbi to herbi

[white elm]

if you get close to me as a carni and I'm a herbi that's around the same strength or stronger, I will kill you

[brave jewel]

some people just dont get it lol

[thick summit]

The only way to simulate pure realism is randomised stats. You've a specific size, damage and speed range and you don't know how strong and fast your opponent is. This would destroy both balance and META gaming

So it's a bad idea

[indigo gulch]

still not what we were talking about T_T

[brave jewel]

lmao again, some people just dont get it

[thick summit]

That's not really the point

[cyan smelt]

Oh my lord how do you turn off reaction notifications

[thick summit]

Because animals WILL attack if they feel threatened and if a carni gets too close to you it deserves to die

[thick summit]

Set your status to do not disturb

[normal shuttle]

preventing the young carnivores from growing up and being a problem, killing adult carnivores by surprise or unexpectedly to prevent them from setting up the ambush on me or letting more of them gather around, claim space such as a certain place that I think is great for nesting, killing other herbivores when I am in a patrol or there's scarce diet of a certain type like papayas in the jungle, removing noisy individuals or driving them away if I want to remain concealed as a solo player, creating a distraction as a herbivore with any other player regardless of their diet to lure any hungry carnivores to a certain spot with the scent of the corpse instead of having them roaming around an area I frequent, wittling down mixpackers or fighting against potential threats who can be even herbivores that want to kill you...

Those are all reasons I could think of that can justify kosing as a herbivore besides entertainment

[cyan smelt]

I still wanna get message notifications, rip, I’ll look around online

[thick summit]

Just mute certain servers

[cyan smelt]

O right Ty Ty

[white elm]

even still... is there anything wrong with doing it for entertainment?

[normal shuttle]

not really considering that carnis do the same rn

[icy lion]

It's in the global discord settings one sec I'll find the specific location

[white elm]

exactly

[brave jewel]

i turn off all notifications in settings

[icy lion]

Probably one of the dumbest new features they added

[normal shuttle]

every carnivore save for deino can survive with AI, and still even outside of AI famines they just decide to pursue other players and try to kill them for the thrill

[indigo gulch]

How many of those are herbi v herbi?

[icy lion]

Settings -> Notifications -> Reaction Notifications to Never

[cyan smelt]

Fr, I can only imagine a dev making an announcement with reactions enabled and being unaware

Thank you so much!!

[thick summit]

Herbivores do fight for food, territory, etc. but they don't run around murdering everything they see

Neither do carnivores

[heady heart]

Na East 10, mix packing ceras with a maia, croc and petra in south plains

[thick summit]

I believe the elder system will fix the KFS problem

[normal shuttle]

most of what I've written applies to herbi vs herbi. I might want to deviate attention elsewhere with a corpse (such as when having a friend growing a dibble or steg and I don't want carnis on the prowl since they could scavenge and forget about it), I could be fighting for food, I might not want dumbasses spamming calls when I am vulnerable, or I might just want to kill things that have the potential to mess me up

[normal shuttle]

if herbis arent morally allowed to kos, then why is it fine for

like groups of ceras

running around killing everything and no one calls them griefers or cyberbullies

as they leave 15 bodies to rot

or if an omni pack gangs up on a single maia when they have 5 boars running around

[indigo gulch]

they literally do

[thick summit]

Yeah I hope the elder system encourages them not to murder everything

[white elm]

b-but they're CARNIVORES!!!!!!!!!! Carnivores can't ever be peaceful!!!!!! They HAVE to kill!!!!!! /j

[indigo gulch]

I'm assuming you main herbivore then x)

[normal shuttle]

nowhere as much as herbivores, who are almost always accused of being toxic griefers in search of dopamine

Herbivore kos is much more frowned upon

[jaunty maple]

Whenever im looking for servers none pop up

[thick summit]

I mean some people think carnis are born to murder

[normal shuttle]

that wouldn't invalidate any stance

[normal shuttle]

and yeah kinda agree. The bias and perception of carnivores is so unrealistic as well

[thick summit]

Honestly, that's quite ironic

[indigo gulch]

no, I'm stating it

[thick summit]

My cat, a carnivore, is sitting next to me...peacefully

[normal shuttle]

carnivores are just as aggressive as herbivores really. The only difference is that one must kill to survive

[normal shuttle]

good, just double checking

[white elm]

I will kill/attack whatever I want as whatever I want, because this is a video game and I want to have fun (and not die)

beipi doesn't alert me to a croc? I stomp it
omni pack exists? I will come barging in, rmbing as I please
baby croc exists when I'm playing beipi? TEAR IT APART

[normal shuttle]

(all the time, herbis also must kill to survive)

And also the fact intelligent animals tend to be predatory

[white elm]

anything exists when I'm playing herrera, even if I have food? POUNCE

[thick summit]

To be fair, some animals do cull potential threats

[normal shuttle]

and it is totally acceptable for humans playing a dinosaur to do the exact same or even actively so

[thick summit]

I prefer community servers for that exact reason

I wanna play like an animal but the official servers wouldn't be a good place for my playstyle

Everyone prefers different kind of servers. And that's fine

[normal shuttle]

tbh I just wanna play like an isle player personally

Feels like it trains my awareness and game sense when there's no guaranteed saving graces

no barriers

[thick summit]

I play on a semi realism server and it actually feels like an ecosystem

[indigo gulch]

okay, so no other complaints about realism then right? Just making sure

[thick summit]

Herbivores actually herd up, carnivores don't slaughter everything in their path, Herbivores fight for resources, etc.

[normal shuttle]

I remember the day when I started thinking semi realism was massively cringe

[thick summit]

It depends

It's just harder to grow on there because well...people eat their food and don't leave a massacre behind

That's why they play quite careful and rather disengage than risking their lives. It's really survival based and I like it

But I can see why some players don't like semi realism

[normal shuttle]

I was a stego sitting by water access and some deinos kept three calling me and mock biting the water or even walking in front of me as they were sizing up a juvi I kinda adopted, and I was completely unable to do anything until they attacked first which was totally ridiculous

then due to my complaints and a few others they changed the ruleset and 3 calling and not walking away when threatened was enough for a herbi to attack, but even then I was forced to see as a teno or dibble how south plain juvenile ceras kept ignoring me and even walking beside me until I three called and they eventually came back in a pack of 4 and I had to flee

So fun to treat herbivores as pacifist, stupid lawnmowers

[white elm]

me watching a herrera sprint across the field and climb up to the highest point on the tree to pounce me from (I am a stupid idiot herbivore, so I do not interfere):

[thick summit]

On the server I am playing on herbis have to three call once if the carnivore is too close before attacking and well dibble can just charge at them if they're too close cause it's an aggressive herbivore

[atomic obsidian]

I grew to a full-grown Trike, lived a long life, and then died. Here are my thoughts:

Positives:

• You feel massive compared to other dinos, making the growth time feel worth it.
• The walking sounds make you feel like a giant, adding to the immersion.
• Reaching 4.2 tons at around 27% growth keeps you safe near water and makes growing easier.
• You look like the king of the jungle.

Negatives:

• Very slow and boring to grow, but expected.
• Feels out of place in Evrima. Too slow, and its attack reaction time is poor.
• As you grow, you become an easy target for smaller Trikes. Unlike Stego, you cannot fight back well due to constant stun and lack of agility.
• Stamina drains too fast, making long-distance travel painful.
• The size difference between growth stages is not clear. A 40 to 50% Trike looks almost the same as a full-grown one, making it hard to judge growth stages.
  Conclusion:
• Trike needs a lot of work. Right now, it does not feel like it belongs in Evrima and fits more in Legacy. It feels outdated and weak due to its lack of agility. Big changes and updates are needed.

[normal shuttle]

how they expect herbivore and omnivore enthusiasts to react unironically

[thick summit]

It always depends on the server

[normal shuttle]

and then I got people crying in global when two deinos in water access ambushed a fg stego I had, sent them packing and while it was night and raining I went around the whole lake to hide in the bushes right next to that mudpool and little island deinos tend to rest at and bring their corpses

Waited there for +15 minutes until the perfect chance, killed one of them in a swift ambush

[indigo gulch]

also the herbivore they play: A dibble so it genuinely can't do anything to them

[normal shuttle]

imagine herbivores trying to take revenge and reposition to ambush, so unrealistic...

meanwhile cape buffalos when shot:

[thick summit]

Anyway

I shall rest

Good night guys

[indigo gulch]

gn!

[normal shuttle]

I would still punt it if it tried to jump, why not

you mess with the bull, you get the horns

[indigo gulch]

yeah but would you be an idiot for not doing it? No they are massively exaggerating

anyways, El over there has the right idea, it's late and I should sleep as well

have a good night

[thick summit]

Nighties

[normal shuttle]

would dunk on it anyway

one rat less for making a mistake

[indigo gulch]

still not the point but whatev. Gn

[normal shuttle]

yeah

herbi gang

[spice orbit]

#general-feedback message we need the isle diarrea before gta6 🙏

[prime rose]

I am wondering - am I getting diats and gastroliths wrong?

My understanding so far is: You eat your preferred food and collect all 3 nutrients, which each will be able to reach about ~30ish% before your stomach gets full. Then you seek out gastroliths to empty your stomach again so you can bring those nutrients to 100%. But the reality is that, at least for me, eating gastroliths does barely anything? I can't tell if the emptying I'm getting comes from my stomach naturally growing or from eating the gastroliths but I am just not able to get my nutrients really higher which is confusing.

[rugged timber]

@atomic obsidian so you are saying it doesnt fit because its slow ? You cant expect that every dino is fast especially not an apex i know that its a bit too slow but that doesnt mean it doesnt belong there if you want an agile and fast dino play something like troodon,raptor etc

[rugged timber]

if you eat them the effect last for 1 minute so you have to eat them every minute and it shows you when u press tab by saying "Ingesting Gastroliths"

[prime rose]

And during that minute your food should go down faster?

[rugged timber]

yep

by 0.1 every secon or so

great isnt it xd

[prime rose]

Ooof, no wonder I didn't notice a difference.

[rugged timber]

well now you know

[prime rose]

Thank you, I really never noticed that prompt on the character sheet. Maybe because I was too busy gobbling up rocks and didn't open it.

[wild glacier]

@steady orchid DIARRHEA?????????????? LMAOO

[junior nymph]

@sullen ivy preach!

[proven fossil]

@gilded estuary TRIKE WITH GOOD NV IS INSANE

@naive portal that trike sit animation is one of the only good sitting animations in the game rn

[vapid harbor]

@steep crater Regarding the migrations section of your post.
First of all, you're growing an apex playable that is pretty much incapable of starving and has diet food everywhere, expecting that to be more efficient would just be ridiculous. I also think a lot of this will be easier when you're playing on a server that doesnt have 80 other trikes eating all the food.
Secondly, I'm not sure what you mean by "trikes migration zones"? If you're talking about patrol zones, trike definitely has them just like everyone else, and they are in the exact same spots as they are for everyone else. Patrol zones spawn and change in preset locations depending on where you go, they just sometimes take a while to reset (unless you change them manually by leaving your group)

[oblique fable]

#general-feedback message @gilded estuary Completely agree, NV right now is a complete joke for majority of animals during the night, and even worse the entire game itself almost always is stuck in perpetual darkness

Its quite frankly one of the most infurating things imo about the game rn, especially with animals with average NV still being in complete darkness

[past crystal]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1347758338947022981
this can definitely be fixed with longer strides - i've also noticed a strange 'toe lock' with the back feet in the walking animation that probably doesn't help the trot animation look less painful
though again, it's possible trike was a bit rushed and they're of course working on it still

[oblique fable]

Darkness should be dark but not pitch black where even your sense of direction is gone, depending on your animal your Night vision the worst case scenario (being heavy storm) an animal should only be able to see themselves and a extremely short range from where they currently are, still covering preds who rely on night hunting, still allowing for the games ideal of the mysterious and horrifying night- while still being able to see where one is

[lucid mauve]

I think the night vision is way to good, like nothing can sneak up on me. Unless i dont pay attention

[oblique fable]

of course other animals would be different but the point really is that I hate being in perptual darkness

[oblique fable]

Depends on what you're playing and what version as well- Current Evrima branch is honestly not bad, my biggest gripe with daytime being really dark despite being... daytime?

HT on the other nearly all animals are blinded during night, even Dilo during specific cases

I def think that there's a thin line to walk when it comes with nightime NV and how far your animal would realistically be able to see- but its not fun in any capacity being stuck in pure darkness

[lucid mauve]

I dont have that problem, for me its like i need to toggle night vision off/on at night cus im wondring if it day time. Even with those "bad" night vision playable. I honestly think its insane how good the nv is. Now i have very good monitor, so that might help.

[oblique fable]

and I wouldn't really even have an issue with this sort of mechanic if the darkness wasn't caused by;
Rain
Heavy storms
and Dark Days

additionally, one of the biggest set backs with the super dark NV is the fact that most of the time- the players who are stuck during the night are either forced into via spawning, or stuck traveling because food is substantially farther than one could be, this is especially prevelant with some Carnis who need to eat at night (Dilo and Troodon are excluded here of course)

[oblique fable]

Could potentionally just be a really bright Gamma monitor, I had one when I used to play on another computer until I moved

[past crystal]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1347840621829951669
50km is EXTREMELY fast - faster than carno, have it be a similar speed to omni at most

[foggy zinc]

yeah thats true 😉 it was just a thought. But i think a troodon should be faster as an omni. It would be realistic

[past crystal]

@proven fossil https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1347842814922461235
difference that I see is just added shadows in every single mini crevasse in the current dino's scales

[dawn hound]

yo guys i have probably figured out how to deal with mixpackers and megapackers (rather megapackers)

if there are way too many dinosaurs in one area that are not their own species, or they are just overpacking, then just like how players can sniff the icon out, the AI would see it on the map too, and would run away from the megapacks/mixpacks or despawn near their proximity, so that they have to either split or eat one another

[proven fossil]

i noticed that too, it uses a black outline instead of a subtle grey one that makes the skin look odd. also, the older version glossed specific scales that i think made it look nice and especially the undertone colors of the texture.

[past crystal]

i think there's an odd thing going on with gloss, most dinosaurs seem to almost be.. reflective? greyish-blueish sheen coming off of em, i kind of agree

[proven fossil]

i liked how the gloss on these was almost intentional in a way, only presant in the crest and some scales

[past crystal]

for sure

[steep crater]

Heya I’ll try to make this as neat as I can.

• The section about migration zones wasn’t specifically directed towards trike and more so in a broad sense since multiple herbivores can share the same mz but it did heavily revolve around trike as that’s what I’ve played most of in the ht.
• All herbivores are technically “incapable of starving” because they all have the ability to graze so that is not a trike exclusive quality. However, it’s really not impossible to starve as an herbi. It’s just very difficult to and someone probably made some silly decisions along the way to accomplish that.
• Often times herbivores don’t have diet everywhere. What I mean by that is there is food, yes but if that gives you diet or not depends entirely on if you’re in an area with food that is specified on your diet which can be in or out of either a mz or pz. For example, I’ve been a teno in highlands where I didn’t have a mz or pz and found maybe a small handful of plants that were on my diet but otherwise everything was a leaf icon that just gave me food aka filled my stomach.
• While being more efficient would be a plus the main problem more so lies in how trike will impact the zone that it shares with other herbis that aren’t a trike. I’ve shared a mz with a teno and dibble before as a trike. Yes we were all juvis so it made no difference in how much we all ate because we were so little but what if when we are all fully grown? What if there were several of all of us? What happens when sharing a space with Maias and Stegos? How about larger, similarly sized herbivores like trike that are released in the future and share zones with each other? No one in that case can be properly sustained with the way things are now since larger herbis like trike will have such a high food demand in comparison to small to mid tiers so is it really so ridiculous to consider? If anything there should be food that is more geared towards larger herbis that they’d naturally gravitate towards since it provides more food per bite/tick which thus discourages them from eating things like oranges and cashews that give them so little anyway. Those would then be saved for the other smaller herbis. Funnily enough, there is such a mechanic in place already with the red and blue bushes. Mid tier herbis are more likely to go to those and eat a fruit tree than individual fruits which are saved for the smaller tiers or juvis. It’s the same concept for larger ones so essentially my argument is there should be more of these types of foods or new ones entirely to maintain this type of cohabitation if that’s what’s agreed on via not attacking each other. There’s certainly the argument that if there’s a lack of food then you have the right to be aggressive and fight over it which is very valid but that shouldn’t/wouldn’t be the case all the time in all zones with whatever mix of herbivores are in it.
• I absolutely agree it will be easier when 90% of the server isn’t trike but that doesn’t take away from the reality of things now and the possibly of what the future could look like should things stay the way they are now.
• I meant exactly what I said by migration zones. I am not talking about patrol zones which have also received a change this ht but that’s not what we’re taking about but I’m well aware what pz do and that trike has them. While this could have changed this ht or even at some point in the live branch without me knowing what I mean is herbi’s tended to have certain areas in which their migration zone spawned in. Pachy typically only had their migration zones in east plains (now east jungle), ne plains, and far in the jungle east of the southernmost part of river delta. Tenos would have theirs in west rail access, river delta, a jungle also slightly east of river delta but not the same one as pachy, and most recently they now have west access as a mz. Stegos and dibbles had theirs in the swamps (I’m unaware of what other areas they had a mz in). So on and so forth.

[lucid mauve]

But why do trike need to share food with other herbis? Maybe they want it to chase off every herb in the vacinity #isle-phase-three message

[steep crater]

I never said trike had to share or play nice with other herbis. That’s a perfectly valid way of playing and I even said trike and other herbis have the right to be aggressive with food but neither of those styles apply to every trike player or to every herbi player. I’ve met plenty of other random players who all enjoyed cohabitating as different herbis and even travelled together. What you want to do and how you want to play is entirely up to you. There is no specific or definite way you absolutely have to play as because of the dino you pick.

[main kite]

Game keeps crashing sometimes and says fatal error how do i fix this

[lucid mauve]

Yea, i agree. But it shouldt be entirely up to me and you how we wanne play. I hope you can never be 4 trikes in the same area and be fine on food. That would prob req 4 rexes to even try kill attacking them

[steep crater]

As far as I’m aware I never implied it should just be you or me who dictates how people play but yeah. Let people play how they want. I don’t know if I completely agree with the later part of your statement because I personally enjoy seeing groups of the same dino in one area even if food can be a struggle but that’s called you have your opinion and I have mine.

[lucid mauve]

Yea im solo for most, but people playing togheter is a good thing. But certain dinos are better for solo and group And if you can be big herds with ease, then the packs also needs to be big. Spreading out people is a good thing.

[normal shuttle]

@cobalt ice Please

Do me a favor and learn that agility is also a thing

You are not limited to only running in a straight line in the open when something chases you

[white elm]

oh god

THATS AWFUL

man... what is with omni players and wanting to be faster than everything

[normal shuttle]

“It’s so annoying” have you like…you know, used the organ inside your skull that nearly defies the laws of physics and functions almost like a quantum computer?????

[normal shuttle]

Omni victim complex and also the people who just started wanting to play the scary fast super cool intelligent relentless JP raptor

[white elm]

from compiling the omni feedback, I've seen that, roughly, it

needs to outrun gallis
needs to outstam troos
needs to empty a stego's blood pool in one bleed pounce
needs to be basically immune to being attacked by other omnis

only then will omni be balanced (I think)

[normal shuttle]

Even after all of that

They’re gonna need to be able to kill a rex with 3-4 Omnis

I am certain

[white elm]

or one REALLY SKILLED omni

[normal shuttle]

Since sticky utah could tail ride spinos to death, they’re gonna feel like their privileges have been suppressed even though everyone has the same restrictions in evrima and apexes aren’t reliant just on their turn to survive a creature 20 times smaller than them

[dawn hound]

@barren zephyr https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1347846549388005419 I would agree but not for all theropods, only some like the t rex

[normal shuttle]

@wise crystal fellow beipi main here

1. Beipi already is the most agile swimmer in the entire game and its speed under the surface can easily keep up with deino, while you are also so much faster in land. You only need to spot it and either dodge it or go to the shore and the croc stands no chance at catching you

2. It is a damn deino, even a juvenile that has been alive for a short while can still be like 300 kilograms(even though the one that grabbed you was probably larger), can you imagine any human being standing a chance after being snatched in the water by a 400-500 kilogram crocodile? You’re a tiny animal compared to deino and by designed you also shouldn’t be trying to stick close to one that large.

3. Saying beipi has bad stamina is actually laughable. If you want to travel a long distance by darting in and out of the water, you easily have a runtime of like 5-6 minutes if not more, and beipi’s stamina is tied with hypsi’s as the fastest regenerating one with about 90 seconds needed sitting to go from 0 to 100%, and you can still swim for a while underwater.

[white elm]

beipi moment

[normal shuttle]

Like man

[normal shuttle]

Beipi obliterates deinos

[thick summit]

Ahh yes. Let's make the agile animal faster than its not so agile predator

[normal shuttle]

At least those below the 2 ton mark because otherwise it drags for so long

[thick summit]

What could go wrong

[normal shuttle]

Even then beipi is crazy fast. It can nearly keep up with an adult deino swimming while having so much stamina and agility in the water

If a beipi spotted a deino (which isn’t hard really with the underwater vision and having better night vision), the croc simply cannot catch it

It’s like a cera trying to get a galli

[white elm]

if I recall correctly a beipi that isn't jumping is outsped by an adult deino

[normal shuttle]

You either ambush from very close or you don’t eat it

[thick summit]

I meant the omni buff thingy

[white elm]

only beipi has genuinely good offensive options for its size

this may be unpopular but for its size I think its by far the strongest creature in the isle

[thick summit]

Beipi can easily avoid deinos

[normal shuttle]

Yeah, but it is marginally faster. Not like it leaves you in the dust

[thick summit]

And it mauls younger ones

[normal shuttle]

It is. Hypsi stamina regen, short growth, more bleed than a bite from many things in the game, amazing speed under the water, can regen stamina while surface swimming, good oxygen, can farm its own food for free even without fish around, can eat plants too…

[thick summit]

And +15% oxygen helps lets you survive small deinos

Beipi is actually great

[white elm]

I can't wait for the austro horsetest

we MUST go on an austro killing spree

[normal shuttle]

Beipi just needs something else going on in water, but it is fine per se and very unique.

The pond battles vs austro and bary are gonna be legendary

[thick summit]

You monster

[normal shuttle]

We should group up by then

And go somewhere like west rail pond or south river

[thick summit]

Austros and beipis are meant to be friends

[normal shuttle]

Nah, my water

[thick summit]

The juvi deino hunters

[normal shuttle]

Real

I’ve killed so many of them. I love when servers let me choose spawn and I always pick water access as beipi

Where all the juvenile deinos are

[cobalt ice]

I'm just saying it doesn't need to be faster than carno but it wouldn't be mean to be a little faster than what it is now

[thick summit]

Omni is literally fine in terms of speed

Maybe just practise the animal on norden a bit

Your whole stam bar does 1k damage (damage pounce)

[white elm]

mortal enemies*

[cobalt ice]

I'm not ready to be fried rn

[normal shuttle]

“I’m just saying it doesn’t need to be faster than carno”

Could we please make omni faster than carno it's so annoying

And even then, you need to acknowledge game design and the different roles that creatures have in this game.

[thick summit]

You don't need to be faster than everything

[white elm]

I wonder if minmi just dies to a dedicated beipi

[normal shuttle]

Understand carno’s design

[white elm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-carnotaurus-the-isle-evrima-evrima-dinosaur-gif-16978147132789972619

[thick summit]

Just dodge carnos and run to a nearby forest

[wise crystal]

im not update to date with everything im a returning player so... i dont this stuff

[thick summit]

I never fight carnos in the open unless I'm on dibble

[cobalt ice]

It's annoying that carno even if I'm zig zaging will eventually catch me if it has the desire to kill me

[normal shuttle]

It is fast, yes, but it is infinitely less agile than an omni and it can’t jump. Those are the drawbacks as well as the runtime it has with its stamina.

Theres more to this game and its matchups than just running in a straight line or trading hits. Turning, stamina, jumping, map…all of those matter

[white elm]

if you jump on a rock there is nothing they can do

[thick summit]

Ah! Well always pick +15% o2 when on beipi. It lets you survive smaller deinos

[wise crystal]

i dont even know how that deino even got to me tbh

[thick summit]

Zig zag is silly. You gotta move around trees and foliage

[normal shuttle]

Yeah beipi is goated. It never has to worry about deinos.

If anything, the biggest threat you can have as a beipi consistently are herras if you are in an enclosed area. That’s it, nothing else can really pose a threat.

[wise crystal]

he was near the mud pool like eating a utah on the other side of the lake

it just made me mad i couldnt do anything

[white elm]

or if another beipi alt attacks you once

[wise crystal]

herra is actually nuts

[thick summit]

Herrera is cool

[normal shuttle]

Zig zag is predictable, brother. They could just figure out the pattern and kill you anyway because there’s a human being controlling that carno. You should rely on being unpredictable, and also restarting to the jungle or even jumping into the water to cross a river in order to escape, since carnos are painfully slow while swimming and they obviously cannot charge

[wise crystal]

beipis alt attack is broken.. it dont register that good

[white elm]

the damage output is insane tho

it one shots ITSELF

that is a 90+ damage attack from a creature with 90 health

[normal shuttle]

Yeah, I know canni beipis are dangerous but at the same time there’s like one player out there who does that and that’s me

[thick summit]

Being unpredictable is the key element to survive

[wise crystal]

but when it does 165 damage on a head shot is briliant

i never kill other beipis

[white elm]

[wise crystal]

waste of time

[thick summit]

You can maul troodons though

[normal shuttle]

If they’re in the land, deinos are such fair game. Hell, even in the water if they’re not too big you can just get behind them and dart in for quick claw swipes until they bleed out

[wise crystal]

and being an arsehole

[thick summit]

While they still exist

[wise crystal]

i was trying to fight him was doing pretty well

he somehow sneaked up on me while i drinking

[thick summit]

I doubt I'll play troodon until it gets some buffs

[normal shuttle]

Why do you even drink as beipi????

It has passive reabsorption!!!

[wise crystal]

yea like .01

[normal shuttle]

Once you hit subadult you have literally zero reason to exit the water until you want to heal

Because you can swallow the food

[wise crystal]

though

im a land beipi anyway

so probs why im struggling

[thick summit]

You shouldn't play terrestrial beipi

This isn't PoT's Concavenator

[wise crystal]

im to used to 6.5 beipi i think

were it could run for ever

[thick summit]

If an omni spots you, you're dead.

[normal shuttle]

Terrestrial beipi is something you should only do vs terrestrial deinos or when bullying small dibbles tbh

Or quickly running in for a kill of a juvenile near the water before jumping back to safety

[white elm]

anyone wonder how a palaeoaccurate beipi would play?

it'd be a nice medium between isle beipi and theri

[normal shuttle]

An Omni that has been alive for more than 10 minutes

[normal shuttle]

Make it a swimmer

[wise crystal]

beipi getting bigger would be interesting

Big beipi vs Barys

Clash of the Claws frfr

[normal shuttle]

If bary is any similar to beipi

I will 100% play it just like I do with beipi

Beipisuchus

[wise crystal]

how would beipi be able to fend off a austro?

austro looks pretty big

[white elm]

agility

[wise crystal]

and nimble

[dawn hound]

aw hell naw give me the aquatic duck

[wise crystal]

both would be pretty agile

[white elm]

beipi is more

[wise crystal]

proof?

[white elm]

it would make sense

[wise crystal]

SomeHomunculus has been to the future it seems

and played austro

[dawn hound]

i just remembered that one video where two omnis try to pounce a teno but both fall off a hill and die

[normal shuttle]

Water

There’s no way austro is gonna catch a beipi that sees it coming

Austro might be a good swimmer but I am certain it is not going to match beipi and deino

Just think about game balance

Nothing is super fast in land and super fast in water

We don’t have much to believe austro is gonna be an excellent swimmer

and also since it is easy to see that austro is gonna be quick in land (at least more than 32kph), it is not hard to see it being slower than beipi in the water

And if austro gets an ability to see others lurking underwater like deinos, then why the hell would it need to outswim deinos?

Just common sense

[sonic mica]

Pteras should have more stam ngl. Ik you can just glide and not worry about stam, but while flying up, it drains too quickly

[white elm]

I predict that beipi will absolutely destroy austro in water, and austro will absolutely destroy beipi out of water

[sonic mica]

It’s a fun dino to play. With not much competition to grow. But the stam just makes it annoying

[normal shuttle]

Because it’s not a bird. It is a pterosaur and they mostly rely on gliding.

Even with how it drains while flying up, you can still remain in the air for so long

[normal shuttle]

Just don’t waste all of it or manage your altitude

Ptera stam is goated

[white elm]

this would be the most fun in my opinion

[normal shuttle]

Safe to assume even if austro is like omni size

[dawn hound]

do you guys think there should be some sord of mechanic to escape pin?

[sonic mica]

Just a tiny decrease in the rate of drainage while flying up would work too!

[white elm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-owl-house-amity-i-saw-that-i-saw-what-you-deleted-gif-11562832199963112102

[normal shuttle]

Also, saying finding good or water as ptera is pretty harsh is insane

They’re fishers and also can fly 😭 😭

Also the lakes don’t flee from you like goat AI, they’re always in the same spot

[dawn hound]

what is that even ment to mean

[white elm]

I am infamous for my hatred of armkneeraptor

yes, we need a pin escape method

[sonic mica]

Some crocs are like that mate. Died lots of times cuz of crocs sitting there to catch a ptera. And i did mention that it isn’t that harsh

[dawn hound]

i think it would depend on the attacked one's stamina and health or just stamina

[normal shuttle]

If we did a race, ptera would always win. Always without a doubt.

It is not only the fastest in short bursts but also the fastest in long distance while also never needing to worry about terrain. Even if you burn your whole stam flying up and then resort to gliding. You can fly as ptera for longer than a galli can run. The amount of distance you can fly is being severely overlooked

[dawn hound]

however, whenever i make a suggestion against anything about omniraptor, there will be quadrillion ❌ only because they all main omni and think it is weak and needs buffs

[normal shuttle]

Then why even mention it is pretty harsh at first?

And in both ptera spawns there’s absolutely no problem with crocs

Water access has so many safe drinking spots

And then no one ever goes to west access as a deino

[normal shuttle]

Because it attracts so many terrible players 😭

[white elm]

the jurassic park fetish is real

[normal shuttle]

Even though all the PvP sweats use omni

[dawn hound]

fr tho, and i am not just gonna blindly hate, this is just true

as a herrerra main I usually meet so many horrid herreras oml 😭

i only saw one in my lifetime

thats actually good

[normal shuttle]

Carnivores in general attract the more inexperienced players because rawr born to kill predators!!!

Although to be fair stego players on average are absolutely terrible as well

[dawn hound]

herbivores usually suffer of barely anyone playing them because they just have boring mechanics. They dont eat meat, and even though i see alot of pachys, tenos, stegos and diablos, nobody plays dryo nor hypsi because there is absolutely no good reason to play as them.

not gonna mention the atrocious lack of food herbivores get in migration and patrol zones

[normal shuttle]

It’s gonna be worse with Rex

Well not really because hopefully very few of them will ever hit adulthood. Although maybe they will complain about that

[normal shuttle]

No one plays dryo or hypsi because they don’t have unique mechanics yet

And also pachy is not really played because of its current spot in the meta

[white elm]

@vivid mason they're slamming dryo again

[normal shuttle]

But stuff like dibble and steg are very common

[dawn hound]

No, nobody plays them cuz theyre weak. Not saying they should be strong, but tree climbing and burrowing is not gonna fix the problem.

[normal shuttle]

It absolutely will

Because there’s more to this game than killing

[vivid mason]

i.. i play dryo..

[dawn hound]

hypsi even though i get it since it has short legs, it is extremely slow, and more than 95% of the roster can one shot

[white elm]

I hope I can make massive ecosystems with burrowing (as megalania of course)

[normal shuttle]

Otherwise troodon wouldn’t be as popular despite it being so mid. Yet in petits ptera and troodon are some of the most played carnivores

[normal shuttle]

Me too, but these plebeians won’t unless they’re given some sparkling gimmick

[normal shuttle]

Mfw turning quickly and using tall vegetation are a thing and that not everything in this game is about raw speed

[dawn hound]

No but seriously, how do you expect the dryo population to go up when theyre just gonna add digging? I would play it, but others wont cuz its not powerfull or doesnt have any combat based mechanic.

[normal shuttle]

That is their problem then

[dawn hound]

hypsi population went up tho

dryo didnt, i have never seen a wild dryo anywhere.

[lucid mauve]

This true, it is boring. Its fun a little while. Ptera is fun cus you can atleast fly around and look at fights : P

[normal shuttle]

People should play whatever they want

If little Timmy wants to just fight and pick the scary stompy carnivore, that’s great

But what matters is that the experience with each playable is different and has any sort of appeal

And hypsi as a climber or dryo as a borrower would at least help to make people consider giving them a shot to have fun even if they don’t get a 30% pick rate in a server

[dawn hound]

okay sure, but i think small animals should be more interesting instead of just... dig or climbing? or just make it so that there is more to those mechanics rahter than just going underground and up a tree. Quite literally there are playables that can enter those burrows and if the burrow is blocked, the dryo is incapable of doing anything against its attacker.

[lucid mauve]

Yea they need some appeal. But dryo is more like, you will more or less do the same thing over and over. And you will always run. If you play ie bary/sucho you atleast have the option if u are bored to fight/kill. And you also have the option some times to actually defend yourself.

[dawn hound]

unless, of course, it is smaller than itself.

[lucid mauve]

I dont think herrera would be popular if it only could climb threes, and not be able to actually attack/kill from the three.

[dawn hound]

it would be, it is a pretty fast carnivore too. But jumping from tree to tree makes it better, yea.

[lucid mauve]

Yea but i have a reason for climbing the three, i can attack etc. Its fast yea. But only climbing threes and running around, would be boring fast

[dawn hound]

true

[white elm]

#general-feedback message deino doesn't need to hunt everything

[sturdy comet]

it mostly has to have water and scare most dinos to not be swiming

[modest dock]

@sturdy comet the point of deino isn't to grab everything that is coming in the game like modern crocodiles doesn't clamp adult elephants there is no point to do that, there are enough species deino can grab or they can grab juveniles

[lucid mauve]

Cant deino grab like 90% of the rooster atm

[sturdy comet]

deino is low tier if u look at that now

[modest dock]

exactly

[sturdy comet]

deino is gonna starve u understand that?

if u wanna chose would u take t rex or cera?

[modest dock]

many players don't play those, if you look closely a lot loves to play carno and cera and that will not change, same for teno

like when sauropods are coming to the game are you going to suggest 10 deinos to clamp them ?

[sturdy comet]

ppl will change to t rex and nothing should be swimming on deinos territory

[modest dock]

thats not the point of deinosuchus

[sturdy comet]

2 deinos max not 10 bro i said 2

[modest dock]

spinosaurus

baryonyx

suchomimus

[sturdy comet]

deino IS 8 TONS and he can grab allot its not now its past

[sturdy comet]

those are semi aqutic

[white elm]

#general-feedback message they are doing this, if you play well while growing, you will be strong, then weak, and if you play poorly while growing, you will be only weak

[lucid mauve]

And deinocheriu, even tho full grown might kill u

[modest dock]

Sauropods are going to be huge mate, and they are going to swim in those ponds

[modest dock]

and that one yeah mighty

[sturdy comet]

yes they are big af but t rex trike that are 1 ton more than deino doesnt make sence to let it swim

[modest dock]

its not because rex is one ton more that it makes able to grab deino or else, that doesn't make sense, deino shouldn't be able to grab dinos that are heavier than maia/diablo

like modern crocodiles

i mean they don't clamp adult elephants

[normal shuttle]

most

[urban flax]

Deino doesn't need to be encouraged into foming groups to kill big prey either, it's a solitary animal

[lucid mauve]

yea

[white elm]

thats the point of it having cannibalism I believe

[modest dock]

yeah plus deino is solitary not group

[sturdy comet]

taking whole ass girafee

[white elm]

no its not

[urban flax]

I don't see the croc taking a giraffe here

[modest dock]

you seing it dragging it to the river ?

[sturdy comet]

its attacking it it knows it can take it

[modest dock]

Its just scaring it, pretty unable to drag it

[white elm]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[lucid mauve]

lol

[white elm]

nice photoshop bud

[urban flax]

That's photoshopped xD

[sturdy comet]

it aint

[white elm]

[modest dock]

xDDD that guy is trolling

[white elm]

doesn't change the fact its... photoshopped...

[urban flax]

bro
The crocs are copy-pasted and mirrored, you can see it
And the giraffe is in a drinking position, not being dragged around

[sturdy comet]

it aint buddy

[white elm]

maybe the giraffe just died

[urban flax]

It 200% is

[sturdy comet]

from water?

[modest dock]

and earth is flat

[wise crystal]

basically Yin and Yang of Land and water ones better on one and then the other

beipi might actually even bleed out austro i reakon

[frank horizon]

`

[modest dock]

that happens actually, it can die in the water, you don't chose where you die especially when you are an animal

[sturdy comet]

crocodile can take girafee with more of them that is point more crocs can take bigger prey

[urban flax]

Now back to deino not being encouraged to hunt in groups

[sturdy comet]

if crocs cant take apexes then no point in croc

[sturdy comet]

back to deino having 2 group

[urban flax]

If croc can take apexes then no point in apex

[urban flax]

So you agree ?

[sturdy comet]

no apex should swim with deino

[sturdy comet]

i agree it shouldnt be 3-10 of them

but 2 to take bigger pray yes

[modest dock]

thats not how it works, and you wont convinced me with fake videos or photoshopped images of the same crocodile that is in a mirror effect clamping feets of a giraffe drinking

[urban flax]

The reason deino can have a group of 2 is because otherwise it couldn't nest

[modest dock]

giraffe that is jesus actually cause its walking on water

[lucid mauve]

Also giraffe killing croc by grab, ofcourse this is not made up

[urban flax]

Doesn't mean it should be encouraged to form groups, one deino is already annoying enough

[urban flax]

tbh it looks like they're kissing

[sturdy comet]

on land yes

[lucid mauve]

lol yea i made it from AI

[urban flax]

Hehe I thought "eh, it kinda looks AI-made"

[lucid mauve]

Yea it is : P

We should get this to

[urban flax]

Ok you really need to learn to discern fake images, or you're going to get fooled with a lot

[lucid mauve]

Yea, these pictures are very easy to make : P

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message no, it will not be balanced

[urban flax]

I'm not sure what's being asked for here

[lucid mauve]

Prob something like pot , where you can choose diffrent dino. Like faster sucho but less hp etc

[urban flax]

Oh
That's cringe

[lucid mauve]

Yea, we sorta have it with mutations. I dont know how they will work in the future, some you need unlock with elders etc

[thick summit]

I mean large crocodiles do infact hunt giraffes and some crocodiles mess with elephants. They grab their trunk and rip it off

but a scientifically accurate crocodilian of this size doesn't work in the isle

Elder deino will probably be able to grab larger stuff anyway so yeah

[modest dock]

That sounds better and more accurate , than saying its able to drag them entirely

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message nickboay spotted

(I agree with omni AND troodon pounce being buggy at times)

[modest dock]

Sure its should be able to harm but not clamp entirely

[thick summit]

"how does this little plant knock off a 450kg creature"
If you ride a horse and you hit decently sized branch with your face..what's going to happen?

but yeah pounce is a big mess atm

[normal shuttle]

Even if it was realistic, it’s still something fairly unfavorable for an ability like that. I think it should only be logs, trees and rocks, as well as similar solid objects

Not really the ones you can pass through with no inconvenience

[thick summit]

yah

[covert tiger]

@spring storm bro what?
You guys shouldn't even be close to 300%
Even reaching 200% should be a rare thing after a lot of hard work
It's not expected to easily gain insanely fast growth rates
Why do you want a trike to always easily have abundant food to always stay full?
Apex life should be difficult in these ways, in exchange for being able to wreck the entire roster

[buoyant socket]

a latattude -102 889.139 longatude -38 901.208 there is two rocks where if you fall in them its impossiable to get out

[ancient kestrel]

BoB kinda have this randomness by utilizing bonus points to certain talents

[swift raft]

#general-feedback message

Muen_ #BuffTroodon — Today at 2:03 AM
I understand that the devs can make changes to the game as they wish, but there are certain changes, especially to the dinos currently present in evrima, that even you might find completely Unnecessary.

Amen to that! -I've kinda come to the conclusion that the troodon speed nerf must be unintended. We are the weakest Carnivore juvenile in the game & now we cant even traverse the map fast enough to find food before we starve..lol SURELY this isnt it guys...

[lucid mauve]

No its not, its alot more coming that we dont know about lol

[ancient kestrel]

KFC? What do you mean by that?

[swift raft]

They planning more nerfs?

[lucid mauve]

I have no clue, but they might change something and for us its clueless. But for them it might be a reason we dont know about

[ancient kestrel]

TBF boars fills only one nutrien slot. So they possibly may want maias organs

[thick summit]

KFS

Killing For Sport

[swift raft]

man..as a troodon main..i just feel like quitting the game right now lmao

[lucid mauve]

Yea i dont see it either. Have not played it much tho : P

Can you even kill anything with it? Like solo

[ancient kestrel]

Wouldn't elder system will lead to opposite where player on elder goes on rampage with his homegrown godzilla?

[swift raft]

Yea i play mostly solo & hunt juve and sub adult dinos

[solemn hornet]

@misty pier I totally uderstand you , but , In game where PVP is only thing you can do after and while growing , players agresion is nothing devs can do about I belive even in hordtest

[ancient kestrel]

Or literally anythni lese which is not samller than carno*

[desert arch]

You can kill even fg dilos as a solo... if they dont just run away

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message what specs and settings are you using?

[ancient kestrel]

Just add bucking for pinned target and thats it

[thick summit]

what?

elders grow weaker over time

[ancient kestrel]

If digging will be more controllable like in BoB - it would be perfect

[thick summit]

and becoming an elder is said to be quite difficult

[normal shuttle]

Or you could go for deers and goats too and have both nutrients maxed out

They certainly wouldn’t need to kill that maia to survive, but they do

[desert arch]

Goat isnt on omnis diet

Only lipids it has for ai is taco

[ancient kestrel]

Bruh. what if there no deers and only boars and maia?

Wait, why he got muted?

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message footstep sounds are already pretty loud tbf

you don’t need to alert the whole island by just walking

[faint folio]

Have you tried running some benchmarks? There are some free ones on steam. I'm wondering if the other games you play aren't actually maxing out the CPU and are more GPU focused...

[past crystal]

#general-feedback message
@clever willow
currently in evrima, walking sounds correlate to your stage of growth, not weight
devs have stated (within the next few updates!) they are changing sounds to correlate with movement and weight, rather than growth

[plush vault]

thisa shi aint feedback

[eternal moss]

i think feedback is basically a suggestions channel

I see more people suggesting then giving feedback

[plush vault]

its not even a suggestion, so whats ur point?

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message #general-feedback message
Did you report the cheaters to an admin with f2 recording? Cause ranting about cheaters in general feedback won't do anything unless you report the accused cheaters with video evidence with their steamID included.

[eternal moss]

my point is, people use it as if it were a suggestion channel. I'm not saying it isn't a feedback channel, but I mostly just see people suggesting.

[plush vault]

yeah but im talking ab the guy i was reffering to

[eternal moss]

oh

[leaden bronze]

@desert arch why?

[desert arch]

Would be a death sentence in group fights. Imagine youre fighting 2 tenos as a cera, you kill one, but are now locked in the finisher animation so the second one can kick you to death.

Not to mention it would be incredibly hard to make it look good, and expensive to animate.

[leaden bronze]

make it 2 seconds quick and make u unvulnerable while doing anim bruh

[desert arch]

Even more of a no then

[leaden bronze]

weirdo

[desert arch]

Invincibility frames are silly

[desert arch]

Lmao thanks, you too🥔 ❤️

[leaden bronze]

being a potato is silly

[leaden bronze]

that aint no argument pal

[desert arch]

Youre funny, I like your humor

Anyways have a good day, bye

[leaden bronze]

a wounded soldier that cant win oftenly leaves the battlefield c:

[lapis swallow]

says the guy who calls someone weird instantly

[leaden bronze]

who? me?

[lapis swallow]

yes

[leaden bronze]

who asked pal

[desert arch]

Dont feed the ragebait 😭

[hidden pilot]

@drifting forum #general-feedback messagePretty sure that's called a skill issue

[lapis swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-gif-8981234213303225928

[leaden bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

anyway have a nice day!

[fair sail]

how tf would u get their steam id

[desert arch]

F2 replays can show you players' steam ID

[golden horizon]

f2 recording

[fair sail]

but what if they kill me before i can record

[golden horizon]

always have f2 on if you suspect anything

[fair sail]

also getting rid of one cheater changes nothing they need to do something against themes. general

in general*

[golden horizon]

Start reporting the cheaters instead of ranting in feedback channel, then the ammount of hackers will decrese

ranting about it changes nothing

Admins will 100% ban cheater accounts

if there is proof

[fair sail]

i grew a trike for 6 hours just to get insta killed by cheaters

[fair sail]

it’s not a rant it’s a fact

[golden horizon]

I didnt say you lied

[fair sail]

They ban one cheater another one joins

it doesn’t work like that

[golden horizon]

because nobody reports them

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message probably because its mechanic hasn’t been fully implemented yet

[fair sail]

Unofficial servers get it to work as well

Never encountered a cheater on petit pieds server

[desert arch]

Tbf there arent a lot of cheaters in this game, its just usually the same couple people who keep getting banned and come back with an alt account right after lmao

[golden horizon]

I've played for months on Petits peids and never got killed by a cheater, but i got killed by cheater 2 times on official

[fair sail]

that’s what i just said

[desert arch]

1 server is easier to moderate than 30

[golden horizon]

I just told you my experience on an unofficial server, plus it has 240+ and no gastro

Once i went community server, i never went back to official

[fair sail]

yes me too

but for hordetest there is only official

[golden horizon]

yeah thats the annoying part

[fair sail]

If there were no community servers i would have uninstalled this game a while ago

[golden horizon]

I just wait for trike and rex to go on live branch, cause i dont wanna deal with the cheaters and the long ques

[golden horizon]

I think alot of people have the same perspective, thank god for community servers

[vast nova]

Just came back into the game after updating my PC recently and just wanted to know if there have been works on the low FPS in jungles? Love the way they look just hard to play there when it drop to 10 FPS sometimes

[golden horizon]

just a reminder, that you can only access f2 recordings 30 min after you logged out

[golden horizon]

Try these settings, i get 90-100 fps with 3060 ti on 1080p:
Graphic settings
Nvidea DLSS: Quality
Lumen: off
Motion blur: off
Shadows: high
Textures: Epic or high
Effects: Low
Materials: low
View Distance: Medium

[fair sail]

The developers want as many people as they can to play hordetest. things like hackers make people permanently not play it anymore. I'll probably never play it again bc of this 💩 today

[vast nova]

I'll give it a try, thank you! I use the NVIDIA Ge FORCE RTX 2060

[golden horizon]

No worries, i always use this website to compare GPU's
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2060.c3310

having 16 gb ram is also a must

[vast nova]

oh I got 32 ram so I am assuming that is no issue

[golden horizon]

Wow that's unusual to have so much ram paired with that GPU, im assuming you're playing on a worklaptop or something right ?

[vast nova]

Its on my ASUS gaming laptop

Got it back in 2019 I think

[golden horizon]

Dangit, i would have recommend to upgrade the GPU since the 2060 is getting pretty outdated for newer games especially with the isle, since its just unoptimized, but that's hard to do on a laptop

[vast nova]

Yeah, I do plan on upgrading or getting a new desktop since this one is getting a bit older, but that is a future plan when my partner and I live together and got that double income no kids life lol

[golden horizon]

Yeah i would imagine the budget will change dramatically once kids get involved 💸

[thick summit]

@leaden bronze better death animations would work but finishers?...hell nah

If a teno dies to a cera and it'd fall over and try to get back up just to collapse would be quite cool

[vast nova]

oh 100, since I am moving out of state in the summer, I might start working on building a gaming PC since it is cheaper, but always scared I am gonna mess it up XD

[golden horizon]

I've heard its much more satishfying building your own pc, but it can also be daunting if you don't know what you're doing. So far, I've always bought my gaming pc's prebuilt, but I will definitely have my next pc be a custom built one, that i assemble myself once its time for an upgrade

[vast nova]

Right! I always feel that the guides do be like "you mess one thing up, then you gotta restart"

[golden horizon]

Its like building legos for adults, if you mess up the instructions it can be so frustrating starting over, but ig its a part of the experience xD

[hoary spindle]

also dont be a dick, be more helpful than anything or just keep scrolling... your comment was irrelevant and im new to this discord and game point blank.

[plush vault]

i can tell, read what the channel is for and if u have a question you can always use google 🙂

[hoary spindle]

google has answers but nothing with recent answers, everything is like 7 months old for answers, i was trying to see if there was more current

[hoary spindle]

thank you

[plush vault]

im pretty sure u can read about compatability on geforce, what games that work and what dont

[hoary spindle]

but you are right i didnt pay attention to what channel lol

[plush vault]

no worries

[hoary spindle]

the game will run on geforce but im not sure if you can change it to run on evrima server like how in steam we go to properties and change

[slow nacelle]

Any admin to help me I'm bugged

[still zenith]

these queues make me sick.

[drifting forum]

Pretty sure you shoudn`t need skill to kill solo cera as trike, as beipy you wont fight deino. Solo cera shoud stay from trike too...and if they engage in fight with him they should be prepared for consequences as with stego. But currently its free meal for lower tier dinos. Hopefully its because of missing sparring mechanic.

[hidden pilot]

cera and trike is not the same as beipi and deino

but still, if you're dying to a cerato as trike thats on you

[eternal moss]

@olive crest do compies even exist anymore? I haven't seen one since before maia update.

[plush vault]

i am also unsure

[desert arch]

They are on the HT

A couple of them attacked my troodon

[eternal moss]

I haven't seen one on ht either

but i dont play troodon, so i wouldn't know

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1347255644734095400/1B6B14584924D75E.mp4?ex=67cd2358&is=67cbd1d8&hm=32f4e0456a2ea55ec2b2fa8600cab11eb65004bb4fc985b8b7ae2e34e285de41&

[olive crest]

i honestly have no clue, i just assumed they were still in the game

thinking about it i havent seen one in a while

[lucid apex]

Can we get biomes like this please???

[vapid harbor]

Migration zones are always the same for everybody, always have been. The point of them was to group everyone in the same area (which sorta failed).

Thats why i thought you were talking about patrol zones since they are personal, mzs aren't

[icy lion]

Migration zones are the same within an herbivore or omnivore species

They're not shared by the whole server

Occasionally, 2 or more species can have their migrations overlap

[lean holly]

Good idea but see for instance helldivers 2? Its a very cpu focused game yet once again I have no issues

It might be hardware issues and pure coincidence too though

[modest dock]

Its not that difficult to kill trikes as cerato currently

And its an issue, to me, hopefully sparring will solve that

[steep crater]

That’s simply not true but I see Superlunary has already corrected you so I will leave the topic there.

[ancient kestrel]

Oh are you also have potato GPU like me? Cause 30 fps...

[desert arch]

Yeah...

[ancient kestrel]

Mine is GTX 1050 Ti

[desert arch]

Mr.Potato has a potato pc

[ancient kestrel]

Quite fitting for mr potato

[desert arch]

😂😭

[ancient kestrel]

What is yours?

[desert arch]

Dont know off the top of my head, and I cant check cuz Im not home atm

[ancient kestrel]

oh you don't even remember what graphics card you have?

[desert arch]

Nope lol

I know I have 8gb memory, thats it

[night obsidian]

#general-feedback message @idle cradle Rhinos can gallop

[woeful latch]

IT HAS BECOME COPY KILLER

are those on diet tho?

[desert arch]

Theyre protein

[woeful latch]

oh sick

[desert arch]

2-3 bites of food

[woeful latch]

honestly fair considering there’s a bunch of them spawn near the body

[nova wasp]

@woeful latch So you think a baby pig may nearly kill a 50% herra alright

[woeful latch]

if you allow it? yes

[nova wasp]

Allow it?

[vapid harbor]

when did they change that?

[nova wasp]

You say that irl, if a baby pig meets that kind of thing it would attack back and almost kill it?

Im talking about the logic, not that I allowed it

[woeful latch]

yes, don’t stand still and take damage

[woeful latch]

irl doesn’t matter at all, don’t stand still and face tank it and you’ll be fine

[nova wasp]

Idc If I will be fine real life does matter, because this game is supposed to be realistic right?

[woeful latch]

who said that? find dev quote

[nova wasp]

Also I stand still because it stops and turns around, and its hitbox is too big to go around

[lapis swallow]

no, realism doesnt matter

or else deino would just oneshot stego heads

[nova wasp]

Alright then go die to a baby pig

[woeful latch]

if you want realism whole herrera gameplay would be impossible

because you would die after the first jump

[nova wasp]

Alright 🤓

I hope yall die to a bunny in game

[woeful latch]

it’s just you who dies to those honestly

[nova wasp]

I didnt die to it

Its just that it does too much dmg

Fine it can fight back but it was way to much

[nova wasp]

.

[icy lion]

It's always been like that

[woeful latch]

don’t face tank it, jump on it, do what herrera does the best

[nova wasp]

Bro I know how to play the game it is about the realistic factor but alr I guess yall want flying unicorns in this game

[lapis swallow]

not wanting realism is not the same as wanting fantasy

[nova wasp]

Well according to your logic if you dont want realism you have unrealistic things in game

How about we make beipis the apex of the game?

[vapid harbor]

so which mz do carnivores see?

[lapis swallow]

I said not fully realistic, not ridicolous

goober

[nova wasp]

You said realism doesnt matter

Nerd

[woven bane]

tbf baby pigs do the damage of an adult one which is strange

not to mention the 360 hitbox

[nova wasp]

Thats what Im saying

[pliant elm]

@pine tundra with dilo you just have to eat turtles, they are very easy to find and they spawn in large numbers. Dilo is the easiest carnivore to get diet

[lapis swallow]

@pine tundra you do realise what a carnivore is, right? you are asking to make it a herbivore in the beginning which defeats all the challenge

just try again and again until you get a good spawn

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message i agree, it doesn’t look good

[wooden agate]

it also kinda negates the hunger systems effect on carnivores

the whole point of 'fast hunger drop' at the beginning is to a) make it easier to get diet and b) reflect the reality of how important that first meal is, and for a carnivore, that SHOULD require them having to build up the skills needed to scavenge/hunt efficiently. rat ai in sanctuaries wen

[icy lion]

The closest active zone of a species on their diet list

[woven bane]

some carnivores can’t hunt or properly scavange tbf

[woeful latch]

it’s just troodon the rest are capable

[peak pulsar]

Do yall have some really helpful videos to become better as carnotaurus?

[woven bane]

not herrera, omni and dilo

things like cera are somewhat capable as a juvi

[inland vigil]

omni and dilo are capable of hunting ai (deer, goats, etc)

[dawn hound]

idk how it works in bob

[inland vigil]

just dont go after boars lol

[woeful latch]

i’d say omni is capable, same with the dilo and it’s fast bites. herrera has frogs and fish

boars are out of menu, but any other ai is fine

[peak pulsar]

Anybody?

[white elm]

Herrera 🤝 Troo 🤝 Maia

having godawful speed as a baby for some wacky reason

[bleak merlin]

my deino just glitched out of the map and is in an infinite fall dc loop... any help here?

[ancient kestrel]

Essentialy BoB Oryctodromeus can borrow tunnels in any direction it wants to obtain some underground vegetations and stuff.

[woven bane]

frogs are extremely rare, too fast to catch and barely gives anything, getting fish is risky. and dilo dosent even have its mechanic untill 50% grown

[woeful latch]

i’m scared, because if even troo got shadow nerfed, i have no idea what they’re preparing for teno lmaoo

[woven bane]

devs don’t really care about teno…

[woeful latch]

yeah, you just bite as a dilo

[white elm]

why can't they simply just say what they're doing?

[woeful latch]

hopefully they won’t change anything except qol

[woeful latch]

nobody knows

[ancient kestrel]

Herra juvie can climb at least

[ancient kestrel]

There was mentioned somewhere planned changes for certain creatures for the next live branch update and teno wasn't in the list

[woeful latch]

kissen said “and others” so we have no idea

[dawn hound]

that would be cool for dryo

[woeful latch]

i think dibble wasn’t there, but it’s getting changes

[ancient kestrel]

What they changed to it?

[woeful latch]

they will make sub dibbles fast

[ancient kestrel]

oof

[woeful latch]

not running buffet anymore lol

still slower than the cera or teno tho, so dw

[ancient kestrel]

Teno said to be fastest quadroped creature in the game roster anyway (including planned ones)

[woven bane]

if you die to a damn juvi dilo skill issue

[ancient kestrel]

Dilo have insane bite cooldown tho. You can rapid fire attacks basically

[inland vigil]

juvi dilo is fully capable of killing ai and other juvies

[ancient kestrel]

Yeah, except boars. Also deers on HT are fight back and annoying to chase as juvie dilo

[inland vigil]

then go after the babies

[thick summit]

and its trash/gore attack is gonna be stronger

[inland vigil]

or goats/seaturtles

[ancient kestrel]

I wasn't said those to be hard

[white elm]

maia

[woeful latch]

bro we’re talking about dilo killing ai what are you on

[ancient kestrel]

maia is biped/quad

[inland vigil]

insulting the poor ai

[woeful latch]

that one speed hacking juvie stegosaurus:

https://tenor.com/view/zoo-lander-owen-wilson-oh-who-is-she-ben-stiller-i-monster-gif-27286094

[woven bane]

dilo being able to take on other juvis, that’s what i was talking about

besides ai dosen’t seem so abundant on HT

[woeful latch]

yeah it’s ht, expect everything to break, it’s not live branch

[woven bane]

or they just reduced the spawning

[modest dock]

deinosuchus albino cheater enters the chat

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message did you report them with f2 recording?

[acoustic spruce]

@lucid apex that biome would be really good by highlands or even by the volcano area to break up that large jungle

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message That only happens if you play on a toaster

[balmy gazelle]

@woven surge might i ask why you downvoted?

[woven surge]

Just personal preference, i just like the simple one colored design

[balmy gazelle]

alr thx

[mental mountain]

@dire bear UI is getting reworked

https://youtu.be/ZvMRSrZXPKU @dire bear

[chilly ermine]

I see several posts in #general-feedback complaining for the devs to "fix" the hackers in the HT because it is making it unenjoyable. I don't think HT is designed purely for enjoyment. Half the title is literally "test". And it's a place where they can find what people are hacking and deal with it before it goes to full launch.

[midnight sinew]

Why doesn't evrima come to GFN?

[lucid apex]

Idk why they said the new UI would be after Allo

[heady geode]

@cinder haven #general-feedback message I dont know what you mean by reabsorption is broken, but on deino it never worked how you think, it merely slows the drain while on land, you will still be losing water on land as a deino, it just prolongs the thirst

not a great pick regardless, you can get to any water source without reabsorption, just that its best while fresh spawn or adult

[cinder haven]

👍🏻

[inland vigil]

The eye feedback makes no sense lol

Remove customization because you prefer a specific color? I don't get it

[indigo gulch]

#general-feedback message @tame jetty 1. Deino is already awful to play and already has counter to the grab (being the anti clip measure so you literally cannot grab them). Not to mention there are a lot of safe places to drink and having to spend a lot of stamina to get to your prey (assuming you’re not camping a pond) which means you can then grab less. This would quite literally be the final nail in the coffin. 2. Doing it like this would only punish omni no matter what or when they pounce, reducing it to biting only. Throwing an omni off of you with bucking is good enough, already does damage for some dinos and already wastes the stamina of the omni, no need for a lot of damage to it. (and that's not even mentioning the terrain and the stuns)

[thick summit]

^

[indigo gulch]

man, you change your name faster than I can keep up xD

[thick summit]

I know

just call me Porosus

or idk..el diablo

[quartz prism]

Yeah it is a test. But its a test for updates that are supposed to come to the 'game', a game that should be enjoyable.
If theres something found that is making the game unenjoyable in the devs tests, the community should be letting the devs know so the devs and note it and make changes as the devs see fit.
Would you want to see an update that in its testing phased proved to have issues that allowed an increase to hackers, be pushed to the main gameplay??

[indigo gulch]

did the react bot break again?

[inland vigil]

Seems like it

[indigo gulch]

I don't think anything the devs do will increase the amount of hackers, aside from release hyped up stuff like rex

and you cant really delay that forever

[icy lion]

@restive rapids Spawn codes to spawn together are in the next update

[thick summit]

I'd upvote this if I could

[mental mountain]

I like that a lot

[mental mountain]

Why can't we lmao

[thick summit]

bot broke

[indigo gulch]

or they blocked it

either or.

[thick summit]

it broke

[indigo gulch]

yeah seems like it

[thick summit]

anyway

[quartz prism]

There can be issues with how the code is that hackers can use to exploit the code. Of which the devs can then reduce such by making it harder for the code to be exploited
Sadly hackers will always find a way, yes. But there are ways to make it harder for them to do so.
Whether or not the devs can or will in this case, we cannot know forsure without seeing the code ourselves ofc. But this is why its important to let the devs know of these issues so they can look into it.

[thick summit]

the eyes look like plastic atm

[indigo gulch]

Okay, but let's say hypothetically there is a code exploit, that usually gets fixed pretty fast. It's mostly ESP, speed hacks and damage hacks that get used

https://tenor.com/view/never_ending-gif-24810109

also ^

[indigo gulch]

I also find it odd that people still think deino has no counter. In ponds, I’d agree if it wasnt for the clip measure, in Rivers you know how much stam I used to get to you🤣

[thick summit]

yes

[indigo gulch]

The counter isnt in the grab, it’s how the deino gets there

[quartz prism]

Im only trying to explain why reporting these issues is good. And why, as in my whole reason for my original statement, remarking on why these 'tests' are not enjoyable is still a valid point (constructively ofc)
Pointing out there is a issue is apart of being properly constructive

[indigo gulch]

And in ponds, pray the clip measure doesn’t apply

[thick summit]

I believe you didn't even have enough stamina to drown me

[woeful latch]

yes, pond deinos are the only issue, the river ones are EASILY avoidable, even if you’re in delta

[indigo gulch]

You can still get saved by the clipping tho

I’ve seen it happen multiple times by west rail access

[woeful latch]

yeah, but i would rather not risk it at all honestly

[indigo gulch]

I mean that’s with everything 🤣

[woeful latch]

yeah, there’s a spot, but there’s still a chance it might not work

[indigo gulch]

The most popular drink spot for that pond

[woeful latch]

this is such an old clip, idk how i found it

[austere widget]

God, I hate how you get stuck on plants. It really makes me not want to eat from them ever

[indigo gulch]

Ah alright I might have misunderstood then. I thought you were saying the devs release stuff knowing it makes it easier for hackers. My fault.

[woeful latch]

i like how it was looking at me after

[white elm]

how

[indigo gulch]

Bugs suck ye😔

[woeful latch]

it missed

[austere widget]

I might just lose a 99% dibble ^^;

[white elm]

yes

but how did it

[indigo gulch]

Cuse head hitbox is smaller

[quartz prism]

No worries. In case you didnt see the msg I was originally replying to i suggest checking that out too because it probs give much needed context to what i was refering to/my wording

[woeful latch]

tho sometimes it grabs you and you clip through the terrain and it lets you go, because funnny bug

[thick summit]

oh gawd not the dibble

[indigo gulch]

He aimed at the forehead

[thick summit]

oh god

[indigo gulch]

👍🏻gotcha

[thick summit]

I just realised

[woeful latch]

idk, but i found that funny, that croc probably starved to death after

[thick summit]

when trike gets sparring

it'll be dibble HT 2.0

[indigo gulch]

If someone is around you, ask them to hit you

[white elm]

[thick summit]

one trike locks a trike into sparring and another trike mauls it to death

[indigo gulch]

Just like dibble :3

[thick summit]

yes

that HT was the best and worst experience I've ever had

I loved mauling stegos though

[indigo gulch]

It still works the same right?

[thick summit]

the spar lock?

yes

[indigo gulch]

Oof

Does sparring take stam?

[thick summit]

yes and no

the attacks cost stamina if you don't have any charges left

no

migrating together =/= communicating with each other

[woeful latch]

same lol

fatal errors my beloved

[thick summit]

oh yeah

the sound bug

"oh shoot! My audio is gone! Time to safe log!"

[woeful latch]

you knew you had one minute to find a bush to hide before you see the fatal error lmaoo

and optimization was SO BAD during those times, it was crazy slideshow

[thick summit]

YEAH

the performance on the main branch is great

[woeful latch]

i remember seeing 30 dibbles at the coastal migration zone, my fps was 1 at max LMAO

[thick summit]

but it's doodoo on the HT

[woeful latch]

yeah

[woeful latch]

maia HT was very good performance wise, i’ve seen a lot of maias around and almost no fps drops or slideshow

[thick summit]

same

but it's awful on the HT

My average frames (HT) are the frames I get at south plains on a 235 player server (live branch)

How to actually balance ceratosaurus:
-remove the vomit lock
-reintroduce its slide

Done.

[woeful latch]

make it slower when it’s charging the bite

[thick summit]

The slide slows it down

And it prevents them from spamming it

Cera would be fair and balanced and actually require skill

The slide locked you in place and even carnos could beat a cera that wastes its charged bites

[crystal cypress]

anyone find a fix or now why since this last update or geforce driver the FPS as just tanked? happen past couple days

[heady geode]

@mystic parcel I vote for you to be an admin, apply now #rules-and-info message

[mystic parcel]

heck yea ):D

[heady geode]

Add me to your resume as a contact I got you!

[dire bear]

I saw that and tbh it isnt better at all

[woven mesa]

i hope they switch on trike sparring soon, i wanna spar my friend xD

[mental mountain]

It's still in progress

But even then it's far better than what we have

[dire bear]

They dont seem to want to change the fundemental problem which is boring, bland design, nor do they want to improve the colors, so I dont think much is gonna chnage on that honestly. Legacy's is still better

Its not a huge issue and id rather they work on dino's first but just something they should look into in the future I think

[mental mountain]

They aren't done with it

[mental mountain]

Also they've got a person who doesn't even deal with dinosaurs doing the UI. Not every developer works on dinos

[dire bear]

Its not a matter of done or not, based on their screenshots you can already see the direction they are going for

[mental mountain]

It's good

I don't know what you're expecting but a concept would be nice

[dire bear]

So is the guy working on the UI working one day a month?

[mental mountain]

What UI do you want

[dire bear]

Something good

Hundreds of survival games have good UI its not that hard lol

You could finish it in a couple of days

Speaking as someone who developed games before

[mental mountain]

Make a concept I wanna see your vision

[dire bear]

Sure I could draft up something in photoshop but im not going to considering im not working for afterthought

[mental mountain]

Well...give a description?

Heres a more complete look of what they'd want judging off their videos

[dire bear]

Something thats fits more with the rustic jungle asthetic of the isle, maybe a cobblestone background with moss growing on it, and that will be the background for the food and stamina indiciator

[dire bear]

This just looks awful

But as far as I know thats the roadmap lol

[mental mountain]

The games going to have a more 90's analog vibe so there won't be any moss thats for sure

[mental mountain]

Looks great to me

[dire bear]

You could also go with that, and maybe have a 90's computer monitor asthetic for the indicators

[mental mountain]

Hmm...how would they pull that off?

[dire bear]

Many styles will work, its about you execute them

[mental mountain]

I'd be down with it

[dire bear]

I actually think the design for the main menu to be great

[mental mountain]

Maybe this screen should be rounded and cracked like an old monitor

[dire bear]

Something in the same style would be good

[mental mountain]

Yes that's what I love most

[dire bear]

Agree

[dire bear]

Exactly but make the computer more "dated" and old

Like its been through some damage

[mental mountain]

The new ingame UI is quite sleek and streamlined though

They should make like 3 UI options for the game that you can pick. Legacy, analog blue 90's stuff, and some future tech stuff

[dire bear]

Maybe idk

[dire bear]

Disagree tbh

Its just boring, legacy had something nice

Also to be more with the "analog vibe" I would propose to make the status indicators hideable. Like imagine a small tab on the side that you can click, and will it bring out a monitor screen showing your status's, and then you can click again to hide it

[mental mountain]

Perchance

[ancient kestrel]

Man it just to match aesthetics of older PCs. Which is fitting for this universe

[ancient kestrel]

Currently Legacy have similar UI to Evrima. Or you talking about legacy ui back in 2018?

Point of UI is being informative on the first place not entertaining

[white elm]

#general-feedback message its fine

[limber hull]

@thorn field play HT maia. It's so much more responsive in a fight

[white elm]

...I HAVE EVIDENCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eBvBn1E-FM

while they were dogging on me when they made me puke first, I would have been stuck in biped mode on the live branch, so I would have done a laggy low damage biped mode alt

but they fixed that bug, so I was able to swap stances despite being attacked and do a back kick

I think that fight would've been much harder on live

[junior nymph]

@sinful forum I think it was a skill issue to let 4 raptors pounce you

even if they took turns thats good they were coordinated which is how raptor should be a bad group will die quickly

[sinful forum]

You expect me to not get pounced on at least once? I’m a slow turning carnivore and I got jumped at once while they just ran around me because I’m slow and they held me on the ground for over a minute until I just died from biting and bleed

[junior nymph]

you are a cera you do not turn slow

[sinful forum]

I tried to attack them but they are faster and just ran around me

[junior nymph]

THATS HOW ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

[sinful forum]

Still a raptor can move around me faster

[junior nymph]

go to a singel tree and your good

[sinful forum]

But for a baby raptor to hold a full grown cera to the ground?

[sinful forum]

?

[junior nymph]

juvie raptors cant pin a full grown cerato you have to be 101% of the ceratos weight to pin 🙂 unless you are out of stam

[junior nymph]

trees hit off the raptors

[sinful forum]

How am I supposed to know and I wasn’t near trees

[junior nymph]

its not raptor OP its you playing badly and the raptors taking advantage

[sinful forum]

Pretty sure I was out of stam, I was resting when they attacked me

[junior nymph]

then that was on you

[sinful forum]

I haven’t played this game in over 2 years so yeah but still they shouldn’t be able to pin me down when I’m literally double maybe triple their size

[junior nymph]

you need 3 raptors to pin you at that point its on you

[sinful forum]

There was 4 and they all started attacking at the same what am I supposed to do

[limber hull]

brother whats happening with this audio good lord

[junior nymph]

that was just good raptor players

where were you

[white elm]

the audio is not relevant, maia being good now is

also sister

[junior nymph]

cause no way you dont see 4 raptors running at you

[limber hull]

the juvi state is worse but goddamn the adult feels worth it now

[sinful forum]

I was in a bush resting while texting my girlfriend who’s been upset for the last 3 hours so obviously I wasn’t paying attention

[white elm]

adult maia runs down ceras easily

cera runs down not-adult maia easily

is this balance ?

[junior nymph]

valid

[limber hull]

cera also has jungles to easily just lose maia