general-feedback-discussion

[urban flax]

It's very much written like a robot

There is absolutely none, that's why it's an issue when it appears

Why should anyone bother to read something you couldn't even bother to write

[ancient kestrel]

Well, the question is why someone would do that?

[urban flax]

Lazyness ?
Trying to use the "eloquent" speech of AI to try to save an idea they cannot defend or explain themselves

[ancient kestrel]

Tbh, did anyone ever proceeded to propose solid idea for mechanic punishing mix packing?

Because I have no other idea than just add button to report someone after you got killed

[normal shuttle]

Pinging devs???

[urban flax]

I'll be honest
There's been some very thought-out ideas out there, some were genuinely interesting, among the mass of the "stress debuff that kills everyone" which we always see

But they always have some form of issue that makes them unfit for the game
Either they're overly complex, hard to comprehend and rely on an enormous amount of parameters
Either they're abusable BY mixpackers
Either they're not effective enough at deterring mixpackers
Either they inflict too much collateral damage on innocent players

In the end, the only idea I think could work is already half-way in the game, it's the pack scent
The fact big groups appear on the compass

According to some people, it also appears for mixed groups, but I still need confirmation that it's actually the case

The only thing it needs is a scent rework to make it appear constantly if you're close enough

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message

look at that

Lmao

[urban flax]

https://tenor.com/view/gone-reduced-to-atoms-thanos-endgame-avengers-gif-5349675049589106761

[normal shuttle]

Kissen instantly shut down. Pinging four devs at a time

[ancient kestrel]

pack scent isn't really way to fix issue it's just way to avoid it as player

[urban flax]

Exactly, and that's literally fixing the issue
Why do mixpackers mixpack ? To kill people

Who are they gonna kill if they can be scented from afar and avoided ?

[ancient kestrel]

So yeah, probably only enhanced moderation and better in-game report tools would help

[untold geyser]

free my boy he aint do nothin wrong

[ancient kestrel]

It won't help if mixpackers camping spot with food/water sources and you are very low

I want mixpackers to be punished for what they do either mechanically or by moderators and not just having a tool to avoid them

[normal shuttle]

The punishment I will always advocate for: make strains smell groups of even different species sticking together

[ivory wren]

They will put trophy bounty’s on mixpackers for humans

[urban flax]

Nothing will help in that case

[urban flax]

source ?

[untold geyser]

better yet: just drop the colossus on em

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-writing-blackbeard-feather-writing-heresy-gif-4408192544333034740

Coming up with the lore reason for that would be hilarious

“This cera is always cuddling with a teno, you need to take it down, agent H-95”

[untold geyser]

ok now come up with a lore reason for the cera cuddling up with a teno

[normal shuttle]

Drug plants in the tropical island

Teno thought it was lines diet

And then the cera tried it out ig

[ivory wren]

Brain cancer, some Dino’s get confused

[normal shuttle]

Toxoplasmosis

[frank tapir]

what did they actually say?

[normal shuttle]

something about optimization and then pinged four devs

at the end

[frank tapir]

yikes

[humble coyote]

how many devs work on isle evrima?

[acoustic spruce]

@bold oasis I think once trike and Rex are released this is the first thing they need to do

And update their videos with all of their evrima ones

[normal shuttle]

Like a dozen or so

Pretty small team

Hence why they should hire me /j

[balmy gazelle]

nah more

i believe most of the team isnt in the discord

[valid stone]

why do people hate mixpacking?

[urban flax]

Because it's unfair

[valid stone]

eh

[late plank]

@steady orchid cannibals tribals are gone

And there will be skulls we saw some when evrima was announced

[steady orchid]

wdym, not so long ago there was already 2d concepts of that in devblogs

[late plank]

Gen1s live in caves and worship the replicator

[urban flax]

Well, building and crafting are stilla mong planned/potential features for gen 1

[late plank]

Thought that was scrapped

[steady orchid]

i meant this guys with cannibals

[late plank]

Yea i think cannibal name is gone

[steady orchid]

oh

[late plank]

Safest way to name them is gen1

[steady orchid]

so the current humans are gen 2 right?

[late plank]

Gen2 is what “mercs” are now

[steady orchid]

ohhh kk

[urban flax]

Cannibals as a name is scrapped
The concept of Gen 1 being somewhat able of building things and crafting items is not

But I admit it's a very grey area right now

It seems there will be different types of Gen 1, some will be barely more than animals, while others will be able to have some form of culture, if only to worship the replicator

[normal shuttle]

Gen1 life cycle when

[wooden agate]

i wouldnt mind a lifecycle for gen1 actually, assuming theyre more tribal and monke like

infact i think theyre one of the only playables id allow 'baby carrying' on so their children can hold onto them in the trees while they jump/swing around

(assuming they're basically still the cannibals from legacy gameplay wise)

[normal shuttle]

I mean they just look like wild apes

Wouldn't make that much sense to see them reproducing or nesting conventionally if they're weapons but...eh, there's probably something you can do to shoehorn them into survival as a rather unique ape like playable

[late plank]

Yeah bro totally a wild ape

[steady orchid]

i think they wont as dondie said growth its the way to progress with animals , the more u grow the stronger u get, with humans progress will be with looting ( you will spawn fg but almost with nothing in your hands and u will get stronger the more items you get) i guess its the same thing with Gen1 as you will probably have to gather materials and make spears, or whatever they plan to do with them

[steady orchid]

this is the closest thing i found lol

[late plank]

Theyre a overengineered response to “what if something hit ae”

[normal shuttle]

You could have it as a mix. With maybe some basic crafting but also a life cycle. Would be certainly something unique.

Less potential than animals with growth alone, and less potential than humans in loot alone. But a good blend of both

But whatever. Anything for them will do

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message Steam has already an inbuild game recorder

#general-feedback message PoT player detected

#general-feedback message TI is a sandbox survival game, so you gotta make your own goals and plans if the survival aspect doesn't do it for you

[vital laurel]

@dire bear the GPUs that can use FSR4 arent even out yet lol

or, i think they like just dropped

[proud coral]

@compact timber That's a really cool and fun idea! I like it!

[compact timber]

thank youuu

[potent glade]

🤣

[ancient kestrel]

I mean skull themselves would be nice addition because we don't have a lot of bones remaining after finishing body except spine

[sudden shell]

i do too, i feel like its usually better to reward players for doing what makes sense rather than punishing them for doing what doesnt

[golden horizon]

True, I just thought it was funny cause this exact mechanic is taken from PoT. I'm also very skeptical of changes that are "nice to have" rather than "must have" changes like new playables, map changes, fixing desynch etc.

[ancient kestrel]

Skeletons looks odd without skulls

Skulls will add a lot more atmoshpere to the horror part of the game

[icy lion]

@patent terrace That's currently in the game

[vital laurel]

its probably been so long the server changed name or smt or he deleted his config so it was not detected

[golden horizon]

It prolly will, but the game has so many issues rn, that its not worth focusing on imo, but defiantly a cool feature to have when the important parts of the game are done.

[dire bear]

They just launched today

[vital laurel]

Yeah, FSR if they add frame gen would be pretty nice but without fg xess would be better

[ancient kestrel]

I heard rumors that troo quite resistant to the bleed in base (for its size). Is that true?

[desert arch]

It isnt 😦

It has 60 blood

[ancient kestrel]

Huh. Oh, well

[candid nimbus]

They still haven't changed anything about ptera's stam, yeah?.. It is still nearly unplayable?

[onyx ridge]

Can we report ridiculous teaming on official servers or is it just cool for stegos and deinos to team up?

[indigo gulch]

sadly, 0 rules so :/

[onyx ridge]

Devs had said that teaming like that is not in the spirit of the game. Wild that people actually do that in this game

[inland vigil]

dont give away locs

[onyx ridge]

locs?

[inland vigil]

locations

[onyx ridge]

Lol... You ever been a deino in the SOuth River?

[inland vigil]

i have one ??

[onyx ridge]

Staying hidden does not overcome teaming of stegos and full grown deinos lol.

[inland vigil]

i dont care about your struggles man this isnt a vent channel 😂

[onyx ridge]

Cool. Kick rocks 🙂

[inland vigil]

<@&933486433342222376>

[onyx ridge]

...guy says stupid ish "locs" and then gets upset 🙂

[inland vigil]

???

[onyx ridge]

??? LOL

[onyx ridge]

I have a dozen. LOL.

[icy lion]

@onyx ridge Please do not give out others' locations

[onyx ridge]

...Teaming Stegos/Deino/Ceras don't get that luxury. LOL

🙂

[icy lion]

Everyone gets that luxury. Mixpacking is not a reportable offense and we don't permit sharing others' locations

[onyx ridge]

Lol.

Who is others? Don't see anybody being named.

[icy lion]

Other players

[candid nimbus]

🙏 Question to those who were seeking what happens here.

Because I loved ptera, ptera's fishing and these stam problems kindly reminds me about why I have quit. And I'm sadly surprised that year passed, new dino added and more to go, but it looks like problem is still here...

[inland vigil]

ptera's stam isnt as bad once you learn how to fly with it

[icy lion]

Ptera is currently undergoing a total rework in HT, as well as getting thermals and slipstreams around the map

[inland vigil]

yeah that as well

someone leaked the flight if you want to go look on youtube for it

[candid nimbus]

happy to hear x_x
because to be a bird that is pinned to the ground or trees for 90% time instead of flying just don't give any motivation for further exploration

[icy lion]

You can stay in the air for 15+ minutes in the current version when you do it right

[candid nimbus]

do right basically means do nothing )

sadly

it's just the worst for those who remember how it was before stam change that simply don't work like this with bird

[icy lion]

@mystic parcel #isle-discussion message

[candid nimbus]

they could revert this change just for ptera because he is not 'likeothers', but they didn't and killed most of gameplay for him for like... 2 years already? It's something I'll probably never stop burning about.

So yeah, I'm WAITING for rework so much I can't find right words now, because now every time I'm trying to get in TI for ptera with these endless stam regens makes me want to rage-quit🤦‍♀️

Sorry for bringing it here, I just made an attempt for it, saw it almost in the same state I've left and got upset again...

[icy lion]

@worldly ginkgo #isle-discussion message

[worldly ginkgo]

thanks lunary

[tame jetty]

@vital laurel agreed, I've seen video of adult rex movement, and he slide and turn on a dime!
Trike has no business being a clown walking 60 km wide circle letting everyone in on its bum #general-feedback message

[dire bear]

Xess is pointless considering intel gpus are incredibly rare. Amd and nvidia are the only ones worth spending development time on tbh. Also amd frame gen is horrible, but the new fsr 4 with the 90 series is pretty good

[vital laurel]

Xess is for any GPU, just like FSR 3

[dire bear]

Oh wow I didnt know that

[vital laurel]

and its generally better than fsr3

[dire bear]

Anything is better than fsr 3 lol

Dlss 2 is better even

[vital laurel]

nah, fsr 3 is pretty good

[dire bear]

Nah bro its not

Had my rx 6600 for like 3 years now and never once turned on fsr

[somber elm]

@late flame I don’t think that cerato actually killed you, it was a Herrera that jumped on you but you couldn’t see it, you can hear the Herrera mid air attack sound quite clearly

[late flame]

ah there was one in the area i was so confused lol

[somber elm]

Yeah it was very sudden lol

[tropic talon]

changing from HT to evrima, always brings problems...

[violet wagon]

dose anyone know how to fix this?

[pliant elm]

restarted the game

[violet wagon]

Yeah that's what I figured, gonna love that it's gonna take another year to load in

[pliant elm]

This usually happens when you click reset settings, so be careful when doing this.

[gritty heart]

@iron haven that will be spino‘s job

[icy lion]

@iron haven That will be spino and probably deinocheirus as well

[iron haven]

yeah something needs to rival the deino

[gritty heart]

Also kapro would get destroyed. And sarcho would only counter young adult Deinos not fg (smaller)

[iron haven]

agreed

[iron haven]

Well kapros would be faster and alot more versatile

[icy lion]

And also tiny

[gritty heart]

So . . . Beipi.

[iron haven]

well no, the Kapro would be slower, able to grab prey and a lot tankier, and would primarily be in water

But at the end of the day its the choice of the developers

Spino, and deinocherious would be really fun to rival deino too though.

[solar shale]

guys how do i play ik i need to join a server but how its blank on my side

[limber hull]

"slow, able to grab prey, tankier, primarily in water"

literally just another deino

[icy lion]

Right click the game in your steam library, click properties, click betas, select the drop-down bar and select evrima

[gritty heart]

The problem is that, unless they make it able to fight when grabbed, deino could basically just grab it to win(which really is my main concern for any aquatic. Except spino because he is huge).

[iron haven]

Literally no, its faster then a deino, less tankier then a deino, primarily in water but it can run at normalish speeds instead of 0.21kmh like the deinosuchus, and it would do a whole lot less damage, and be a whole lot more versatile

[iron haven]

I agree, thats what would kinda make it balanced. It would be hard to drown, and the capro might be able to escape the grab

[limber hull]

so why not have bary for that role

[iron haven]

My point is to add a semi-aquatic creature to rival deino, didn't say it had to be kapro. And Bary wouldn't do much and just be grabbed

[limber hull]

So would kapro?

[iron haven]

Your right, i just think it be a whole lot funner as a deino to actually have to worry about something when fully grown

[wintry cipher]

...kapro is tiny

spino will be added eventually; so that will fill the niche you're looking for. probably even deinocheirus

[iron haven]

Not particulary, the Kapro be alot more aquatic then a bary and a whole lot more versatile

[wintry cipher]

and you assume any new dino with no models, animations, skins, or other set up would take less time?

[iron haven]

Yes, it could have a similar role as troodon, or even omniraptor. It'd just depend on the debs

[iron haven]

I agree, something needs to rival deino

[limber hull]

Wouldn't bary be far more versatile, as something that can sufficiently hunt on land, water, have decent stamina and agility, dive, etc

IDK everything kapro can do bary can do better

[iron haven]

be fun

[limber hull]

Why would bary not be fun?

[iron haven]

bary is a whole lot bigger, idk where you got versatile from, bary would be fun i just think pack hunting would be a funner choice as kapro

not really it'd likely have very different mechanics, and packhunting could be similar to troodons or omniraptor

[limber hull]

If you wanna pack hunt as a smaller aquatic, austroraptor would be fine for that

[iron haven]

that would be fun

a group of capros should be able to kill a deino with some skill, like omnis against a stego or carno

end of the day its the matter of what the devs prefer

[limber hull]

How heavy would you want a kapro to be lol

[iron haven]

I do think a spino or a deinocherius would be a better choice imo

[iron haven]

fully grown maybe 500ish kgs

[limber hull]

We're getting spino and cherius and both will be able to throw down with deino

[iron haven]

I didn't know we were getting cherius, will be fun

[icy lion]

"dinos that don't have unique mechanics feel like legacy dinos" i mean. that'll happen yea

[white elm]

Wip playable moment

[compact fable]

chunky 🙂

[full pewter]

Looking at a lot of posts here, people need to understand that trike as of now is heavily wip, it’s straight up broken in every way, ofc share thoughts but don’t assume anything is final or possibly even intentional in some cases

[gilded pulsar]

a spinosaurus would probably get owned by a deinosuchus

[urban flax]

That is over 10x its irl size

[limber hull]

in this game? no. spino's going to nuke deino

[gilded pulsar]

are they making jurassic park spino

[limber hull]

yes

[white elm]

where are you getting a kaprosuchus weight estimate

[gilded pulsar]

thats sad

jurassic park spino would get killed by a deinosuchus anyway

[limber hull]

its not exactly JP spino, it's arguably even stronger than that lol

it's a colossal kaiju spino

[gilded pulsar]

are they just making things up

[limber hull]

they have been doing that since The Isle was released

so yes

[white elm]

herrera didn't climb IRL, beipi didn't jump like a penguin IRL

beipi was also enormous IRL

[limber hull]

omniraptor wasn't irl

[gilded pulsar]

hate when games do this

[gilded pulsar]

that's a placeholder name, it's more or less a JP raptor/naked utahraptor

[white elm]

regardless, its a fictional animal

[white elm]

well the isle is not your game then

this is a game about humans recreating dinosaurs, not dinosaurs existing in their natural state

[gilded pulsar]

this game has lore?

[frank tapir]

#isle-lore-theories

[urban flax]

Good question actually
The fact kaprosuchus is 40 kg is so engrained in my mind I have no idea when or where I learned that

That might be because of paleonerds saying it was "the size of a large dog" constantly

[white elm]

yes, yes it does

these are all man made abominations being added to the game

there will be more

[white elm]

that seems way too small

[urban flax]

Utahraptor was the placeholder name, omni raptor is most likely definitive

[urban flax]

A lot of people massively oversize it because of Ark
Like beelzebufo

[gilded pulsar]

I thought this was *just a survival game

[white elm]

it will

with man made abominations AND humans

humans will be playable

[white elm]

still, 40kg is tiny

[urban flax]

Honestly, trying to make an accurate dino game is a failed task as soon as you start

[urban flax]

It is

[white elm]

wikipedia says this

I can't see an at maximum about 4m long crocodile being 40kg

[gilded pulsar]

not really, if it's accurate to current knowledge/theories then its accurate

[urban flax]

Also fun fact : the idea that kaprosuchus had long legs is pure speculation, as we haven't found fossils with legs

[urban flax]

Then you have to remake every dino model every year

[gilded pulsar]

current at time of release

[urban flax]

But then it's not accurate, it's outdated information
If that's so then The Isle is accurate too

[white elm]

I know this already

its like andrewsarchus, only a skull

like andrewsarchus it is also overhyped as a awesomebro creature

[gilded pulsar]

the isle wasnt released in the 90s was it

[white elm]

but its rex design IS accurate to the 90s

[urban flax]

Hmmm
I might have to do some article digging to update my knowledge

[gilded pulsar]

@white elm

[white elm]

andrewsarchus and kaprosuchus are two sides of the same coin

[urban flax]

Ok
It was made in 2014, back then giant long-legged spino was considered accurate

[gilded pulsar]

not talking about legacy

[white elm]

regardless this is pointless

the isle will never strive for accuracy

I mean... it is sometimes, but that will never be a priority

it goes for rule of cool and uniqueness over accuracy

herrera wouldn't be unique if it was palaeoaccurate, so they made it tiny and gave it the ability to drop bear

[gilded pulsar]

statue based on 2014 model

[urban flax]

The discovery was made during 2014

[urban flax]

?

[gilded pulsar]

you must be thinking of late 90s/2000s

[urban flax]

No

Idk how to put it
There are multiple days in a year
Not that it matters

[limber hull]

it's not a placeholder. it's the permanent name after it was renamed from utahraptor

[gilded pulsar]

was under the assumption it was

[keen temple]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/1347480956977680417

Bro what? I want whatever drug this guy has

[minor bridge]

who here thinks that the migration zones were a good concept idea but feel more like a chore than actually a fun thing to do.

[frank tapir]

no

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

Wh- why?

"Now that trike is here, make dibble worse"

What is the link here lol

Also tf you mean "balance the ecosystem", trike is more than 3x the weight of a dibble they aren't exactly overlapping

[white elm]

a health nerf to 2 tonnes is too much

but I wouldn't mind 2.5 tonne dibble

[limber hull]

@placid anchor there aren't dinosaur bots atm

[limber hull]

i just feel its unnecessary especially with using trike as justification

[white elm]

head shot reduction?

also I'm not using trike as justification, even if it didn't exist I think 2.5 tonne dibble would be better

[placid anchor]

As far as I know, there will be and among them there is definitely a tenontosaurus.

[limber hull]

oh yea then i agree dont add dinosaur AI lol

i just dont think a large animal bot exists

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message It was specifically said in changelog that some trike calls are temporary and WIP

[woeful latch]

people going crazy with those dibble feedbacks

[full valve]

trike and stego eating a bush in one bite is like a cow eating and entire bale of hay in one bit. it makes no sense. it needs changed before trike is fully implemented. like yes, it stops big groups from packing up but even just two fg stegs or trikes in an area can clear out the food and hardly get anything from it in the end

[thin haven]

Hi, i have a question. My Mate and I hatch from 2 different nests, with seperate parents. We are fg now, have good diets, are not sick or anything. so why we cant bound or couple? I try it by another Male raptor and N Animation works. But not, if i do it to my mate :/ - noone answer me, so i try it here

[junior nymph]

could be related from grandparents

[placid anchor]

I completely agree with you. Tenontosaurus looks much better than Maiasaura and Diabloceratops combined. The last two look like they were hastily transferred without any modifications. Even Ceratosaurus looks better compared to its legacy brother, and Diabloceratops and Maiasaura look like they were simply transferred from legacy without any modifications (I can't fault the animations).

[past crystal]

does seem like things are a bit rushed.. unsure what's going on behind the scenes

[thick summit]

wdym, diablo looks great

are you using the performance mode on DLSS?

[placid anchor]

No

[thick summit]

could you show me your graphic settings?

because dibble and maia have great textures on my screen

[thick summit]

your resolution is quite low

that's why they look bad

[placid anchor]

A funny conclusion. Especially if I say what they look worse in comparison with. Now if I had said "all dinosaurs look bad and blurry" then I could have referred to the monitor resolution. Especially since it is the native resolution of the monitor. If you didn't know, if the native resolution is selected, the picture looks good.

[thick summit]

yeah but your statement is wrong because they have better textures than in legacy

[placid anchor]

You probably don't understand what I mean by quality. It's not about the resolution of textures on models or their palette. I'll show you now.

[thick summit]

if you mean the quality quality you're still wrong

[placid anchor]

Usually, in addition to the texture with the palette, the texture of light distribution is used on models. Because of this, some models on a flat surface can create the illusion of a three-dimensional image.

[thick summit]

yah

[placid anchor]

Pay attention to the back. There is a clear limitation of the scales, as if they were all three-dimensional, and because of this the dinosaurs look more alive.

But there is none of that here. It just turns out to be a glowing mess.

[thin haven]

ok thank you 🙂

[thick summit]

Ah ik what you mean

the dinosaurs look like toys atm

[placid anchor]

I take back my words about Diabloceratops, it looks good

[ancient kestrel]

@mint forge #general-feedback message Whats's wrong with maias textures and model? They are very solid

[covert tiger]

@tame jetty I know you're the most scared person in the universe for trike nerfs but you need to put that bias away.
Trike being ridiculously overweight with high damage at young juvie stage is the most unnatural and unbalanced thing ever. That needs to go away asap.
And the animations for certain things need adjustment. The swim speed needs to be slowed down heavily to slower than carno's.
It's not as crazy as the initial OP Maia of course but still needs work to get to the perfect spot from a balancing standpoint.

[ancient kestrel]

Bruh, why they even need changes. People really underestimate quality of legacy models

Also pretty sure that they have some tweaks made to visuals

It's just simply the fact that maia have very simple desighn in general as animal

[ancient kestrel]

Teno just have bigger scales which makes them more likely to be 3d

[woven mesa]

Is the Trike's running animation final... because it looks soo goofy as if it's in sparring stance or has gone #2 in it pants.

[lapis swallow]

but ark says it has, so it must be correct

[normal shuttle]

agreed. I'm fine with trike having a quick juvenile stage, but hitting 4 tons at 30% is just not it

[molten marsh]

idk where to ask this tbh, how can my friend give me her spawn code?

[ancient kestrel]

Taco be like

[molten marsh]

or at least someone tell me where i can ask this and get a proper answer

[ancient kestrel]

it is planned regardless of what you want. Alos it just would help make map more alive cause people are just concentrating on hotspots while most other map area is dead

[normal shuttle]

well

it is what it is

[clear fossil]

i wish galli had some way to escape a carno, cant outrun, cant outstam, cant judge or hide from.

[molten marsh]

please, anyone?

[normal shuttle]

forest and water

[normal shuttle]

ask in general, more people there

[ancient kestrel]

Use group speed buff thing. Also gally have insane trot speed

[molten marsh]

thank you

[normal shuttle]

not really something you're always gonna have. Galli can outlast carno if it sees it from afar, and as I said you also have the jungle or water to stop the charge and gain distance quickly

[clear fossil]

they'll kill you before you even get a chance, i think ill get more stuck than the carno if i try a forest,

[clear fossil]

dont think trot speeds gonna do much

[ancient kestrel]

Tbf carno is intended small tier menace so it's intended that it very effective at chasing gally

[normal shuttle]

if you are looking at the front, that won't happen. And you can get a chance unless the carno is already on you. It may be fast, but only 5kph faster in case you don't have speed mutations. If you both run, it's gonna need almost a minute if you two are a hundred meters away

[clear fossil]

me and my friend got charged by a sub carno at the tail like 4 times and then we were both dead

[normal shuttle]

galli trot speed is insane, it grants that you are literally never going to lose any endurance race. It's just not worth it to chase a galli if it sees you from afar

[normal shuttle]

you were unaware and got ambushed I suppose

[clear fossil]

yepp O_o

[normal shuttle]

then it is what it is

carno earned the kill

[thick summit]

galli has an insane speed boost too

• if you have all 3 diets you're faster than a carno

unless the carno is charging but that makes it turn like a truck

[clear fossil]

that thing can charge for days

[indigo gulch]

Well yeah cuse it charges at sprinting cost

[limber hull]

yea. i know. no covenant from God is gonna make me like it tho

[thick summit]

you've to dodge the charge

[limber hull]

i still think its a garbage idea that only serves to weaken playable diversity

[indigo gulch]

Wait what is?

[thick summit]

AI dinosaurs

[clear fossil]

theres no dodging that wdym

[indigo gulch]

🤨

[thick summit]

there is

[clear fossil]

they reach you before u can even TURN

[normal shuttle]

but look at the math.

Gallimimus is about 55kph running while a charging carno is around 60. 5kph difference if you two are running in the same direction, which means that every second running in a straight line, carno catches up more or less 130 centimeres. If you are 90 meters away (which isn't much in this game), you have over a minute of time if you are running the opposite direction and carno is chasing you with the charge at all times.

one minute is so much in a chase, you could just quickly hide in the jungle wihtout looking back or jumping across a river to escape. Carno only has a chance at killing a galli if it closes the gap significantly

[thick summit]

just turn around

[limber hull]

nail on the head

[thick summit]

also, press f if you're with a friend

[normal shuttle]

not very reliable unless it is a very agile thing, and then the lag is so lethal for some goddamn reason with carno. Worst lag issues of any attack in the isle

[indigo gulch]

Wait how would that weaken diversity?

[thick summit]

AI dinosaurs can be a good thing

[normal shuttle]

AI dinosaurs letting people grow a giga for free is

[indigo gulch]

Also I 1v2ed 2 canni deino’s yesterday👌🏻

They bit each other so much, it’s crazy🤣

[clear fossil]

that was definetly not the case for us

[limber hull]

doubt it. i want to see a lick of evidence towards it

[lucid mauve]

How do you grow without AI lol

[indigo gulch]

Scavenge

[normal shuttle]

skill issue then because those are the literal stats and younger carnos are slower

[normal shuttle]

players

[indigo gulch]

Could be a hacker tbf

[limber hull]

AI vs AI dinosaurs. Big diff

[normal shuttle]

that too yeah

[limber hull]

With current AI, giga could try actually hunting real players, god forbid

[lucid mauve]

lol good luck with that

[normal shuttle]

it could be a hacker as well if it caught up very quickly and you didn't turn at all

[normal shuttle]

git gud

[void fulcrum]

why is there so much negtivity towards a respawn button?

[clear fossil]

ahh yes now i remember why this server is so rude

[limber hull]

If you can't reach full adult as a giga because you can't hunt, that's a you problem

[lucid mauve]

Yea, get nested in and no prob. Free food and protection

[limber hull]

No need for dino AI, ya

[normal shuttle]

come on, unless it was a hacker, a sub carno would've had a harder time catching up to running gallis

Plus it is always a good thing that will keep you alive to be aware of your surroundings and also have a safe escape route

[indigo gulch]

To be fair, it is hard to argue with the literal stats. If the stats didn’t explain it, it must be a outside source which is usually the player

Granted, the phrasing could be nicer, but still

[normal shuttle]

and I am also considering that when people die and they're new, they tend to have a biased judgement and hadly any evidence

[clear fossil]

[normal shuttle]

only stuff I have to check are the in game stats

[clear fossil]

people rlly missunderstood the assignment

[normal shuttle]

how

[indigo gulch]

Alright then, re-explain the assignment

[thick summit]

LMAO

[thick summit]

imagine they overtune the skill of AI dinosaurs and they're as skilled as good players

that would be funny

[limber hull]

wont happen. the idea is funny but the reality isnt

[clear fossil]

[normal shuttle]

stego not getting baited

like boar ai that cannot be soloed if you are smaller and weaker or dont have cc

[limber hull]

AI dinosaurs will be food for bigger dinosaurs. That's all they ever will be.

Just don't pick an "AI" dino because you'll never manage to locate your own kind

[normal shuttle]

right what we need

free ride into adulthood for rex, giga, spino and acro

half of the server population as adult apexes

[limber hull]

yup. clearly the issue is those animals might be too hard

[normal shuttle]

which should be the point if they are unstoppable death machines that no longer can get tail ridden to death by a single omni

[indigo gulch]

Ai spino for deino that can mess you up as a 100%

[thick summit]

I am quite curious how the apex system will solve the potential apex overpopulation

[limber hull]

wow im so glad its an AI and not a player that cheated me out of those 5 hours

[normal shuttle]

imagine getting ambushed by an AI deino and losing your full adult to that

[normal shuttle]

apex system? the hell is that?

[limber hull]

truly this is a game worthy of my time investment

[clear fossil]

STARVE EM! I mean- maybe a server limit

[limber hull]

nah AI dinos wont let them stave lol

[indigo gulch]

Well it shouldn’t be unbeatable. But high risk high reward, and deino healing is quite slow

[normal shuttle]

server limits are so lame

[indigo gulch]

Coming across another deino will be even riskier

You know

[normal shuttle]

imagine that I wanna play spino but I can't because it's always full and I have no way of telling when a slot is free

[indigo gulch]

When gastro is removed

[limber hull]

if its unbeatable or not, idc, the current game doesn't need free food masquerading as dinos

[normal shuttle]

or when there is I was already in game playing something

I hate petits limits. That should never be a thing in officials

[limber hull]

i want a hunt to be a hunt, not a guarantee

[indigo gulch]

You get a hunt?😒

[limber hull]

hardly lol

[indigo gulch]

Can’t relate as a deino

[limber hull]

dino AI is the antithesis of what the game wishes to be

[indigo gulch]

I miss lots of teno’s in delta😔 it was so fun grabbing jumping ones

[lucid mauve]

Then play on no AI, thats the easy part. Everyone rushing to hotspots and free food all over the place

no need to roam around

[limber hull]

i'd rather have the good AI than no AI

[indigo gulch]

The kit adjustment scares me ngl. I want to stay ambushing 😦

[limber hull]

dino AI is the garbage that doesn't need to exist

[thick summit]

Honestly, Patrol Zones should not provide any food

[normal shuttle]

I see it is in the roadmap, but any clue of what it is?

[thick summit]

nope

[indigo gulch]

For carnis?

[thick summit]

the devs said it'll get some lurking mechanics iirc

[lucid mauve]

Its litterly what makes people roam around looking for food, and not where everyone is. So people spread out. And hell its darn easy if you join a pack, and just kill easy stuff. carcass can feed a army right now

[normal shuttle]

An AI will always behave the same way. Once you have a certain cheesy tactic or just know its weaknesses, it is free food

[indigo gulch]

[thick summit]

No food at all

[limber hull]

if its just a replacement for real players, i will always hate it

[thick summit]

people just reset patrol zones and ignore migration zones

[indigo gulch]

So just remove pz?🤣

[limber hull]

if the servers are 100 apex rexes feeding on AI tenos, I'll hate it

[indigo gulch]

Yeah I’ve noticed that sadly

[thick summit]

if everyone plays apex I'll just play on petits pieds

it may be quite annoying with the population control but that's better than having 100 apexes running around

[indigo gulch]

I’m not touching that server if you paid me to

[plucky tapir]

how do i play the game

[ancient kestrel]

charge burns through carnos stamina quite heavy

[indigo gulch]

Open the game.

[plucky tapir]

i idd

[indigo gulch]

But seriously tho, did you install legacy?

[plucky tapir]

idk

[indigo gulch]

Okay I need you to go to steam, right click the game and check properties for me

[ancient kestrel]

How exactly lmao

[indigo gulch]

And then go to betas

[thick summit]

I mean, it's better than playing an apex dominated game

[plucky tapir]

okay

[indigo gulch]

Hmmmmmmmmm I doubt that. I’d pick norden survival ;3

[thick summit]

lmao

I've never tried norden survival

[clear fossil]

I tried it on my own server and to me that thing can go on for a pretty long time

[thick summit]

but seriously, small tiers REALLY need some love

[indigo gulch]

You should have betas selected on evrima. There you can find official servers and that’s the version that is currently being worked on

[clear fossil]

It’s like a missile

[plucky tapir]

ty

[indigo gulch]

They REALLY need to start specifying this on the steam page

[indigo gulch]

No problem man. Enjoy! Takes a while to learn the game tho👍🏻

[ancient kestrel]

What it have to do with giga?

[normal shuttle]

Imagine being an allo walking around with your buddies and know that you can take on a single acro together

But there’s a megapack of 7 acros running around south plains because they have no trouble surviving with AI paras exclusively.

Absolute cinema

[limber hull]

idk why i wrote giga frankly i just meant apexes

[ancient kestrel]

Pretty sure that devs planned to make it possible for people to group up with AI dinosaurus if they are same species

[limber hull]

doesnt make it better imho

id rather play a real dinosaur than an AI dino

[ancient kestrel]

Well what it if you will have way of telling when slot is free?

[ancient kestrel]

You overstimate potential amounts of players on apexes cause devs pu quite an effort to make smaller ones evjoyable as much as big ones

[ancient kestrel]

You forgetting that there also will be carnivore AI like carnos and omnis

So they would harass juvie apexes

[normal shuttle]

Still bad

I don’t want to be limited to play what I want because little Timmy who bought the game yesterday picked it earlier and keeps dying of starvation and respawning

I want adults to be limited by skill and balancing

[ancient kestrel]

Megapcks are officials issue. Just don't play servers where megapack are a thing

[normal shuttle]

Problem isn’t megapacks per se. More so the idea of apexes becoming trivial to grow with ai and them being everywhere

[ancient kestrel]

Also no one said that AI wouldn't be able to fight back. Boars are already kinda scary on their own if you are not big enough

[normal shuttle]

Happens with ceras rn because cera is inherently easy to grow and that’s okay

But I don’t want to feel impotent about a situation because I cannot fight an apex because they’re everywhere and can survive fine with AI

[ancient kestrel]

It would depend how often and dense will be AI dino spawns

Probably values would me much lesser than for current animals

[ancient kestrel]

Also cera is just lacks compettition

At the time whre most of apex roster will arrive there will be a lot of competition

[normal shuttle]

I agree

With Rex, even cera without nerfs will become much less common

[ancient kestrel]

Personally I think that only nerfs cera is needed are stamina cost for charged bite and may be less bacteria from from all bites or make bacteria much harder to acquire from fresh corpses

[lucid mauve]

If apexes are everwhere they will kill eachother, you dont need to

[ancient kestrel]

Betas excited for trike arrival on HT but true sigmas waiting for avaceratops

[normal shuttle]

@steady orchid you sure that wasn’t lag or desync?

[plucky tapir]

yo what should i do if my isle keeps crashing i cant even have it open for like 30 secs then it freezes

[steady orchid]

nope, i fought tons of trikes yesterday

[plucky tapir]

well not crashing just freeze

[steady orchid]

the alt atack looks like that

[plucky tapir]

i cant play

[normal shuttle]

Nice way to spell minmi

[frail thorn]

Is trike now?

Is trike launched?

[normal shuttle]

Yeah, in HT

[frail thorn]

[ancient kestrel]

Also was the styrako plans completely scrapped?

Personally I would love to see cause all 3 planned bigger ceratopsians are have 2 or more horns and resembles a bull while styraco would resemble rhino

[thick summit]

styraco is dibble but ugly

[ancient kestrel]

Bruh styraco isn't ugly you dummy

Depends on design

[steady orchid]

styra would be fire

[thick summit]

how would sty work though

we already have dibble and trike

[normal shuttle]

Dibble but 5 tons

[thick summit]

that'd be vile

5t sty would be wild

[normal shuttle]

Getting the dibble treatment

[steady orchid]

maybe with a ram atack like carno but with his horn

[thick summit]

Oh god

[normal shuttle]

Ah yes, carno charge but with bleed and bigger knockdown, hiting you from a mile away with lag

[steady orchid]

exactly

[ancient kestrel]

Considering how long it's single horn it may do quite severe internal bleeding

[normal shuttle]

I would honestly choose Tarbo or Carch over Styra or Cory

And I am a herbivore and omnivore main

[steady orchid]

obviusly it wont run 60 km/h lmao

[normal shuttle]

So trike again

[ancient kestrel]

What about pachyrhinosaurus tho?

[normal shuttle]

Mid

[foggy field]

Pachyrhino for me is the most interesting one since it lacks a horns just a giant head and fractures

[thick summit]

Pachyrhino, trike and dibble are already good enough

we don't need sty

[foggy field]

6-7 ton packyrhino is perfect

[steady orchid]

we are not getting pachyrhino

[ancient kestrel]

I won't mind styro scrapped if pachyrhino will make it to the game

[normal shuttle]

Old tsintaosaurus when

Great addition for hadrosaurs

[foggy field]

Its not confirmed to be scraped

[normal shuttle]

Tsintaosaurus with its old crest would be peak, do you guys agree?

[ancient kestrel]

Wut. How looked its old crest?

[steady orchid]

ik but i dont think we are getting a third ceratopsian anytime soon

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-troll-face-troll-face-phonk-troll-face-terror-dark-gif-3039755119636354997

Look it up

[foggy field]

Ava and proto maybe close

[steady orchid]

oh wait, forgot about those lol

Ava ON TOP

[normal shuttle]

Poke poke wink

Tsintaosaurus ability makes other dinosaurs flush and they are left dazed so it can run away

[steady orchid]

just add leptoceratops🙏

[normal shuttle]

Lets add bajadasaurus jokes aside

[tiny vapor]

Goofy aaa lil guy

[normal shuttle]

Tapwing art I think

[ancient kestrel]

what

[normal shuttle]

Shunosaurus could also be goated to fill the gap between magy and cama

[normal shuttle]

Did you see it 😳

[ancient kestrel]

no

[normal shuttle]

Pls do

[ancient kestrel]

I was looking through internet

[thick summit]

oh ma gawd

[normal shuttle]

Best hadrosaur ever amirite

[steady orchid]

anky fused with camara?💀

[normal shuttle]

Kinda yeah, that’s how shuno was

Also somewhat bigger than maia

Well no

Quite bigger. More around para size

[steady orchid]

ngl i want a sauropod i dont care which (im not even herbivore player)

[normal shuttle]

Cama is not that far off

Kissen said so

[steady orchid]

is magy closer?

[normal shuttle]

Maybe it will show up in the next roadmap after the current queue is done

[normal shuttle]

No, cama first

[steady orchid]

Neat

[ancient kestrel]

I am curious if triassic fauna will get some love eventually cause only herrera is

[normal shuttle]

No

I mean…Plateo…?

But that is such an old ass thing

[ancient kestrel]

Even no postoshucus?

[normal shuttle]

Rauisuchus and Plateosaurus had rendered models in legacy

But that’s about it

Same as titanoboa, but that one’s lame

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message this guy clearly never played as a trike lol

[thick summit]

trike shreds through a whole pz and is still hungry

[steady orchid]

hes just asking to rework the food values for all playables which i think its ok imo

[frank tapir]

#general-feedback message as a deino, you can catch and eat players, trike and all other herbivores only have plants to eat

[steady orchid]

@white mesa trikes and dibles have a damage reduction on his head probably why u didnt kill him

[thick summit]

😭

ahh yes! Let's bite the head of a ceratopsian and complain how op it is

[normal shuttle]

@white mesa well done biting the spot that only takes 25% of the damage you deal

[white mesa]

still 60 seconds of continius bitting

[narrow heron]

#general-feedback message The difference between deino and large herbivores is deino can hunt somebody and get organs/a large food source and fill A LOT of diet up, but trike will be stuck eating that “0.1% food increase” forever.

[normal shuttle]

and yeah, DUH!!!

It's a trike, it cannot run away from you. You expect it to be weak and frail too? a trike of your volume (the size, but not mass which matters more) is probably like 2 tons or even more

[white mesa]

its like 2 issues, your safe log should be canceled when you take dmg

[thick summit]

it's an armoured and well protected body part

[normal shuttle]

then it probably was left significantly wounded, but still. 60% omni biting the head of a 2 ton trike is laughable

[thick summit]

that's like hitting a crocodilian's osteoderms

[steady orchid]

a suggestion to make you not able to log out while recieving damage would be a better choice ratter than complaining about his hp

[white mesa]

more like 1ton

[normal shuttle]

60 seconds like 30 bites. Trike probably took like 300 damage total

[normal shuttle]

either yellow or orange at absolute best

[normal shuttle]

imagine being unable to safelog if a juvenile omni you can't catch bites you

and even then, that's not a trike health issue

it is meant to be tanky and you went for the toughest part. It's okay, now you know

[frank tapir]

@vernal jacinth watch the video

[steady orchid]

262 damage if the raptor had over 35 bite force

[normal shuttle]

yeah, trike could survive fine even at 1 ton

[steady orchid]

didnt think about that, or a baby ptera constantly biting you. A way to solve it its making safelog canceled when you reach a certain amount of hp lost. For example if you lose 25%> hp safelog gets canceled

[thick summit]

or you add a damage multiplier while sleeping

[ancient kestrel]

He proceeds to compare it with deino forgetting that deino can it elte fish and players

[urban flax]

Like in Monster Hunter !!!

[thick summit]

lmao

[white mesa]

imagine a safe log when you are not safe xD

[urban flax]

I'm not a mod but I can see two reasons

1. It breaks the channel's rules, as any suggestion asking for a new dino needs to be explained and justified
2. It's not a suggestion, it's a meme

[frank tapir]

it just bothers me

[urban flax]

I'm afraid that you're alone in this situation

[frank tapir]

the rules don't stipulate complexity of suggestions, no rule was actually broken, unless there's something deep in the pinned messages

and the tagging of a moderator to have it removed is just unnecessary

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message

[frank tapir]

yeah okay

[urban flax]

Also I don't see where a moderator has been tagged, it seems like they removed it themselves

[frank tapir]

it was removed at the same time as the original post

[woeful latch]

exactly lmao

[indigo gulch]

is playing Wilds 🤣 good game, tho horribly optimized

[urban flax]

Yes and yes

[indigo gulch]

Finished it yet?

[urban flax]

Novice mode only
I'm trying to not get it all finished too early because I want to play it with a friend who's way slower than me

[indigo gulch]

Aaaah gotcha

[terse portal]

#general-feedback message @keen temple have to consider sparring stance which is not implimented yet - allows the trike to turn in place a lot quicker to stay facing the enemy just like the dibble (maybe not 1 to 1 turn speed but you get the point)

[tame jetty]

Then cerato shouldn't be imune to smaller creatures biting it at body (because of damage reduction on body).. that's just as "op".
Otherwise, i don't see problem with normal damage on sleeping creatures. And I mean, Trike has natural face shield, like diablo. If the omni ate on the face of trike, that's on him 😄🤣

[normal shuttle]

A juvenile omni is far from unsafe to anything larger than a dryo

@final narwhal legacy is dead bro

Let it rot alone. Will prob get deleted soon

[clear sun]

which servers have migration zone bugged?

[molten marsh]

the only tip i can give yall to mostly avoid hackers is to stay away from hotspots since hackers will farm through these obviously so far i was unharmed and my trike is a few hours old since im adult

[tropic matrix]

they could still come find you anywhere on the map if they feel like it lol

[molten marsh]

you never know, just bc they only need a few bites to kill ya doesnt mean they also can see you across the map

and running to a single player in the north east isnt worth it if you can farm more than 20-40 players on one hotspot

[tropic matrix]

they can see nametags like when admins go into spectate, i think they can see stats too..

[narrow heron]

#general-feedback message Seeing a stego able to spam its charged tail is so scary lmao and with the right mutations the stamina drain isn’t that bad.. atleast from what I’ve seen something definitely has to change with it since it’s quite literally impossible to go near a stego since it can just charge tail spam you and stun you to death if you get hit once

[faint folio]

Really depends on what kind of hacks they're using. But if they're using one hack to increase damage, what's stopping them from also using an ESP hack to see names and stats from across the map?

[faint folio]

About this, I'd like to wait on the debuff because both trike and rex are about ready to be added. It's possible they will help balance stego out, and stego might need the damage it has to be balanced with the apexes. Also, allo is in work too, and I somewhat expect allo to be hunting stego, as it was a predator of stego in real life

[sacred carbon]

@pulsar prawn Machapa — gestern um 07:32 Uhr
Problem:
In recent experiences, mixpacking and overpacking have gotten out of control on a large scale. The game becomes frustrating when, as soon as you are growing, huge groups attack you as if you were meat in a river of piranhas. The most unsatisfying thing is to come back and see that they didn't even do it out of necessity: they don't feed on your corpse.

Proposal:
It is essential to sanction this type of behavior, as it generates an unfair and unbalanced gameplay. It is suggested to implement a system that detects the prolonged coexistence between dinosaurs of different species and penalizes them with a progressive debuff, making them unusable in combat.

In the case of herbivores, the rule should not be an exception. Only certain species should be able to coexist with each other in order to maintain a more realistic and fair balance in the game.

The only exception to the debuff would fall on dinosaurs with a static area, such as the Herrerasaurus, due to their difficulty in moving around the map.

Prototype penalties:
We have prepared a preliminary scheme of debuffs (yet to be adjusted) that would serve as a starting point for presenting this proposal:

Group damage reduction (mixpack) = 45% (base) + 2.5% per additional unit.
Hunger increase (carnivores) = 15% - 30%.
Thirst increase (herbivores) = 15% - 30%.
Speed reduction (mixpack) = 10% for the whole group.
Speed reduction (overpacking) = 5% per additional unit.
Growth reduction = 15%.
Forced skin change for those who live too long with other species.

This system seeks to discourage unfair practices without affecting the game experience for those who play in a balanced way.

[sacred carbon]

how exactly is the game supposed to understand and recognize whether you are fighting or mixpacking?
without this problem there would have been something in place long ago to prevent mixpacking.
at the end of the day its up to the players themselves whether they do it or not, its a problem of the people not the game,
because i and many others have never mixpacked and never will even though they could because its just gamebreaking and not fun.
i only play on servers where mixpacking is forbidden, on low rule servers, because mixpacking has simply gotten extremely out of hand on the official servers,
it has become the norm, so just do the same, there will be no other solution for the time being, probably never.

[narrow heron]

From what I’ve seen trike kinda gets destroyed by stego if it just spams charged tail attack.. since trike gets stunned by it over and over and it does 2k damage(iirc) with very good bleed.. hopefully Rex has some sort of counter to it

[pulsar prawn]

If the game perfectly allows you to know both the dinosaur that is being played and the Steam ID (if you have ever been in administration mode on a server) You can program a code that calculates the distance between these players, applying a time measurement as soon as a point of proximity is reached. This data (imagining a table that brings them together) would process the information based on time, distance, dinosaur, ID. Time passes... A progressive debuff begins, the idea is that the information about the debuff for the players is minimal, that they do not know the times in which it is applied so that it is difficult for them to find ways to overcome the obstacle

[gusty flax]

#general-feedback message new grass is way better @eager wing

[eager wing]

Same creator btw

[narrow heron]

My grass does NOT look like that

[gusty flax]

new grass actually feels light and airy, taller. old grass didnt fit the map as it looked damped, wet like it belonged in a colder climate type of thing

[eager wing]

Nahh it's not even shaded at all

[gusty flax]

nice zoomed in and blurry image gg

[eager wing]

Both of them are zoomed in

[eager wing]

That looks horrible

[gusty flax]

2/10 ragebait

[eager wing]

Not rage bait just facts

[gusty flax]

ur subjective opinion isnt fact

[eager wing]

It is when it's true

[gusty flax]

thats ur opinion

[eager wing]

Sure

[gusty flax]

most people like the grass

[eager wing]

Still ugly

[gusty flax]

to a few

u think dondi will listen to the 2% of people who dont like the grass

[eager wing]

Nope because they want to make grass trails that serve no purpose than to just lag the game more

[gusty flax]

pack it up guys 'meso' doesnt like the new grass guess we gotta change it now 😔

[eager wing]

Sure 'spamz'

[open vale]

all the people complaining about trike needing to eat a ton. as if growing an herbi isn't easy enough. god forbid an apex herbi struggles for food 10% as much as an apex carni

[gusty flax]

carni never struggle for food

atleast if u know where to look

[woeful latch]

it’s lumen issue as far as i know, because my grass looks exactly like the one on the screenshot

[gusty flax]

which is upon ur knowledge ig

[faint folio]

I haven't played horde testing, but Ive heard trike doesn't have sparring enabled yet? If that is true, I suspect it will have a similar stun to dibble (which last I heard can stun a FG stego with a running charge?)

[narrow heron]

Yeah trike can stun a FG stego.. but if the stego is able to get one charged tail off it can hit like 10 charged tails lol

[idle cradle]

Does anyone else notice how the body between the ribcage and thighs on Trike, Dibble, and Maia moves with the legs in a really ugly way?

[pulsar prawn]

@sacred carbon I will be aware of your answer, your curiosity, could give solutions to certain blind spots within the idea

[potent glade]

@bitter dove They only add as many hordetest servers as many players they need for testing. This is not the main game, not the same purpose of these servers.

[molten marsh]

like you said it depends and like i said if i were the hacker i wouldnt greed after some solo player in the north if i can have fun purging wra. also hard to tell whats stopping them from using an "ESP" whatever that is since i never did that stuff myself idk how that works and if you can also destroy a game by doing so or even increasing the risk of getting caught by the anti-cheat

[clear sun]

has anyone mentioned fixing diest/mz on NA4 HT?

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message i think you're wrong, carno kills easily anything smaller than himself and can even fight ceratos

[faint folio]

"ESP" stands for Extra Sensory Perception - it's a category of cheats that lets you see players, NPCs, and objects through objects or terrain, or otherwise gain information about other players that you wouldn't have access to (for example, their location, username, if they're Targetting you, how much health they have/damage they do, etc). It's a category, like damage buffing cheats. Either one may or may not be caught by anticheat depending on the sophistication of the cheat and the anti cheat, respectively... My point is, players who have no moral objections to increasing their damage so that they 1-shot players they normally couldn't likely won't have any moral objections to using ESP or speed cheats either

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message 100% agree with you, trike is getting strong way too fast

[faint folio]

I am pretty sure some isle players use ESP cheats because I've been found by the same herbivore (pachy) group multiple times despite being extremely well hidden.

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message Its intended that large herbivors has poor NV, just look at stego and maia. There has to be some tradeoffs for having all those stats

[gritty heart]

Maybe you just had bad vibes they could sense

[gritty heart]

That’s not “poor night vision”, it’s a darn powered off screen

[faint folio]

Hah, maybe 😅 though honestly a Utah with a concussion and a thrown back probably doesn't have much vibes left after getting it pounded out of me

I was trying to cut and run... Pachy group despite being distracted by the rest of the pack kept finding me

[indigo gulch]

The only carni apex we have rn is deino and deino struggles with food for sure🤣

[gusty flax]

true, i was kinda refering to rex, rex will just eat other rex

[indigo gulch]

If they are cannibals, ye

[gusty flax]

i think dondi said something about rex having rex on their diet

meaning most rex will probably be canni

[indigo gulch]

As much as I hate deino canni’ing, I can’t deny it’s how most deino’s survive

[gusty flax]

yep plus too much deinos would be an issue

same goes towards rex,

rex having rex diet would stop overpopulation

[indigo gulch]

If you want to avoid that, you should remove it off the diet list

It’s going to kill a deino when starving regardless whether it gives diets or not

Might as well not give it a beneficial effect for it

Besides, plenty of deinos kill for the sake of killing

[gusty flax]

every carnivore kill for the sake of killing lol

[oblique fable]

Thats not poor NV, Thats straight darkness- The poorest NV should still be able to view their character and atleast a foot or two of their surronding view, something so I know what solid ground I'm on and atleast can see my animal, its infurating how dark it is at times for certain animals especially in this HT

[indigo gulch]

No, I kill for the sake of living. If I’m full, I don’t bother

[oblique fable]

Night time should be dark and scary- you're not sure whats nearby you and you're stuck relying on your sense of hearing when things are getting farther from you, but that sort of dark isn't scary, its just annoying

[gusty flax]

very few players do that xd

[indigo gulch]

Yeah sadly

[gusty flax]

most people are even crazy on the herbivores too

[indigo gulch]

Makes playing deino horrible

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/beasts-of-bermuda-kaperoo-the-isle-path-of-titans-gif-23526654

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message You're right, why didn't the devs just copy paste the trike from legacy to evrima, since they look so similar 🤡

[indigo gulch]

#general-feedback message you know, maybe you should wait until the whole kit is out…

@spare mist

[oblique fable]

yeah currently as well Trike is... Something XD

But thats the point of the HT, super early looks into things that aren't 100% ready yet 🤷‍♂️

[faint folio]

Honestly I think with sparring trike should be MUCH better

[molten marsh]

definetly, should also get significantly harder for agile enemies to tail ride you

[faint folio]

Makes sense to me that an animal missing an important part of its pvp kit would be matching up poorly to fully realized dinos (see: hypsi, troodon, dryo, trike)

Sparring also is what sets apart legacy and evrima trike imo

Honestly though I'm really looking forward to hypsi getting climbing in some capacity. Dryo also really could benefit from burrowing although I understand the system still needs more baking time

[valid oracle]

true, hypsi also needs the tree climbing which i heard was being worked on this week

[faint folio]

Yeah I'm hoping hypsi will get climbing soonish

[valid oracle]

burrowing probably isnt close because devs want to make some unique mechanic for that instead of a hole in the ground

wonder how it’ll differentiate from beasts of bermuda burrowing which i think is perfect, perhaps a bit too over the top but that game isn’t aiming for realism

[faint folio]

Yeah and I get that. There's also performance implications as it's changing the map. But it does mean poor dryo suffers 😅

[thick summit]

I've seen people saying trike is too clunky...it doesn't even have its sparring stance yet

[valid oracle]

i believe it should be given a higher priority before larger creatures release along with the troodon rework

i’m certain no one will play as critters once large dinos come out lol

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message They said they would update the steam page, once the main gameloop has been finished (elder system)

[thick summit]

I mean the apex system exists

Well not yet of course

But it will be a thing. We dunno what it's going to be but it is planned

[valid oracle]

not necessarily apexes, people gravitate towards playables like allo, baryonyx, kentro and other upcoming interesting mid tiers

[faint folio]

Same 💀 I get burrowing though. Hypsi should definitely get climbing sooner rather than later though, since climbing already has most of the mechanical hooks built in due to Herrera. That's also probably why trike is being implemented - dibble got all the sparring mechanical hooks in game so it's easier to implement on other animals

[thick summit]

True

[valid oracle]

hope it gets some attention soon ish because being “skilled” at dryo is fun af lol just dodging those raptors with style

[thick summit]

Small tiers should get more interactions with other small tiers and larger animals, more mechanics based around them and a fun kit

[valid oracle]

you can dish out some damage too, the alt kicks can make quick work of a troodon

[valid oracle]

yeahh like dryo burrowing can interact with protoceratops whenever it rolls out creating a small ecosystem

[thick summit]

Idk why they nerfed troodon though

Small tiers should be easy to grow and be fun

[faint folio]

Hard agree. I also would really like if the super tiny tier dinos get some positive interaction mechanics with the larger guys. Stuff like Ptera cleaning larger dinos, watchdog dryos, etc. where larger dinos may have incentives not to KOS the super tiny one-shot dinos

[valid oracle]

apparently troodon is being set up early for some upcoming changes to its mechanics, juvi speed being reduced might point towards a subadult or a full grown being more powerful as a reward

we do know that troodon venom is recycled from dilo’s and it’s not finalized, that might point towards affecting stamina and fatigue as seen in the concept art

[thick summit]

Juvi troodon is already painful

[cursive plover]

wdym you dont like getting one shot by a baby boar?

[thick summit]

I don't like its speed nerf

[faint folio]

That's my guess too. Especially since adult troop sometimes struggles with stamina, that makes me think their venom might try to balance that out more.

Maybe juv is getting nerfed to add venom to juv?

[desert arch]

fresh spawn trike being 4kmh faster than juvi troodon 🔥

[astral rampart]

fix the fkin diet bug. simple easy 🙂

[valid oracle]

yeah i think that’s likely the reason. like some sort of poison dart frog being deadly from very early growth sacrificing speed

[astral rampart]

wait 2 hours in queue to load in to a broken diet lmao

[faint folio]

Troodon honestly needs a couple common ai that are killable by juvis... Many of the current AI roster are catering to small tier, not tiny tier

[astral rampart]

i said fuuuck in the main feedback channel now i gotta wait 6 hours because its a bad word sorry just had to air it out in here

[valid oracle]

i remember the critter ai from before the maia hordetest? that was supposed to spawn in sanctuaries for juvi carnivores

[astral rampart]

troodon gotta relay on scraps from other killing basically till u get posion

[astral rampart]

im 90% sure troodon got changed because it wasnt that slow on main branch lmao

atleast it didnt feel that slow

[desert arch]

live branch juvi troodon spawns in at almost 40kmh

hordetest juvi troodon spawns in at 12.9kmh

[astral rampart]

exactly. i thought so

[desert arch]

and stays below 30kmh until 20kg

[astral rampart]

kinda dumb tbh LMAO

[thick summit]

Juvi omni food

[desert arch]

juvi anything food, even stego is faster

[astral rampart]

its like a fat kid with ice cream in his hands beating usain bolt in a 100m dash smh

[desert arch]

only things that spawn in slower than troodon now are beipi and hypsi

[cursive plover]

this is why we need reactions that was hilarious

[astral rampart]

ahh yes just waited in a 92 queue to load back into the game to ANOTHER BROKEN DIET BUG great fkin game

🤣 this sht just funny atp

how is my 92% trike going to get FG 😦

[lean holly]

Anyone else is having some CPU heating issues whenever playing HT?

[astral rampart]

also any herbys on hordetest ? is the pz and mz just broken for me or everyone aswell ?

[astral rampart]

i was playing with a guy that had 300 ping and 1 fps. might be an isle issue unsure tho

buddy had a 3060ti n 3600x

[lean holly]

what about you? did you monitor your cpu?

[cursive plover]

Its been bad for most people from what I've seen, since the last patch people are getting like -30% framerate

[lean holly]

Yeah alright, thanks 👌🏽

[astral rampart]

im fine. 90 ping and sit at 60ish fps

could honestly be card related

[lean holly]

Oh same here but still, the cpu is getting over used

My gpu has no issue whatsoever

its the cpu the issue

[astral rampart]

im in the mindset use it till u break it. my CPU has basically been on the verge of frying for awhile LOL

[cursive plover]

I personally went from 100 to 60 but that could also just be a multitude of things like the area we moved to or the amount of players nearby

[astral rampart]

i stay at 100% usage on the isle lmaooo

[cursive plover]

but this was an issue for everyone else I ran into

[lean holly]

I've had the same fps drop issues too

Its not annoying, but its still a massive performance loss in general

[quartz meteor]

@primal spade “For the longest time now upon fully eating a plant it completely disappears out of existence, breaking immersion.

It used to just leave behind the dry branches with some small eaten leaves, you devs should check on this.”

Okay… do you want immersion… or do you want lag…? At the end of the day… it is still a computer trying to keep up with everything… Personally… I would rather have less lag, vs twigs and bodies all over the place causing massive lag, All for the sake of having immersion.

Also, on that note… the tree disappears because the dinosaur eats it… so technically the immersion is still there…

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

Seems like a safe place to swim!

[indigo gulch]

in what way? 😛

[keen temple]

yeah thats fair and im hopeful its gonna be a lot better than how it is now

[cursive plover]

Better yet why don't they make the river current so strong that crocs go flying off if they get too close to the waterfall

[open vale]

deino is pseudo-apex at best unless they buff it.

[ancient kestrel]

Isn't hackers technically a thing which impossible to eliminate?#general-feedback message

[gritty heart]

tbf, deino also struggles to encounter it's meals since it is all but waterlocked

[ancient kestrel]

Pretty sure that devs working on that but there always will be a chance to encounter cheaters

[thick summit]

it IS an apex

[ancient kestrel]

8 tons is definitely apex weight

[faint folio]

Why not both? Pretty sure the bush models are a client side render thing. Could be a toggle to prioritize realism or performance

[ancient kestrel]

You could argue that something like stego or acro are not fully apexes but deino is 100% apex

[acoustic spruce]

@lime dove look at trikes mouth compared to stegos

That thing is a monsters mouth

[lime dove]

does trike bite with 600n?

[faint folio]

It's essentially an arms race. Anti cheat gets better at detecting cheats, cheat figure out new ways to evade the anti cheats.

[unreal ridge]

@lime dove that’s because trikes “bite” is a headbutt that deals 600 damage, sure stegos bite only deals 40, but the tail swing also deals 1,000, and the raised tail “mace” is 1,245 I believe (?)

The bite is simply the damage of the lmb attack, for example diablos is 250 and headbutts for 250

Maia does 25 x 4 so its bite force is 25

[ancient kestrel]

To be fair there probably should be added ways to detect when something doing enormous damage, hitboxes or faster than should be from server side

[vital laurel]

@lime dove his weakest attack is 600, fym

[faint folio]

Are you measuring temperature or usage? The isle is very high on CPU usage to my knowledge. But if your CPU temperature is high, you probably want to check your thermal system (reapply thermal paste, see if fans or pumps need replacement, make sure you have airflow, top off any coolant, etc). Long term high temperatures can reduce CPU lifespan

[vital laurel]

oh never mind

[lime dove]

its stupid i guess bite is bite if its not about the mouth then trke shouldn t have 600n

[vital laurel]

trikes bite is 600

or 750 i cant recall

[unreal ridge]

it’s just a figure of the damage being dealt so people can know what their primary attack is doing

even if it’s not actually a bite it’s just easier to say you do 600 damage instead of listing the damage of all the attacks

[acoustic spruce]

What’s Deimos bite-force?

[lime dove]

and stego does 40 with swing cuz if i would like to look at stats then stego would be really bad

BITE FORCE

[unreal ridge]

500

[acoustic spruce]

Ok I see now

[unreal ridge]

The difference being deino can also grab you and then drown you so it’s incentivized to hold back and not try to face tank stuff

idk what they are gonna do with Rex’s bite force but expect somewhere around 1k to 1.2k like legacy

[open vale]

wouldn't that let it 2-shot just about anything

[unreal ridge]

Did you play legacy?

[acoustic spruce]

Ik that trike will be able to amputate or kill smaller Dino’s by biting them

[open vale]

no

[unreal ridge]

So you don’t know Rex could already do that

[open vale]

thats why there was a question mark at the end of my sentence

[unreal ridge]

the whole point of Rex is that you only attack it when it’s young, as when it’s too old and fat to chase you down it can also bite you in half

[unreal ridge]

What question mark?

[open vale]

touche

[unreal ridge]

But I mean yeah Rex is just supposed to be weak while it’s young, hunts different stuff at different ages of life

as a juvi it runs super fast but also basically has anorexia

as an adult it’s morbidly obese but can also just bite you in half

[open vale]

im not complaining. a carni that doesnt get bullied by large herbis is overdue

[unreal ridge]

Yep %100, the whole game plan with Rex is that it punishes over confident or unaware players

if you just watch where you walk Rex really can’t catch you unless you are like trike or Anky

if you aren’t careful then Rex can slam you repeatedly into the ground/trees/buildings/rocks lol

[vital laurel]

what should it have then, cus trikes weakest attack is 600

and trikes bite isnt the LMB default attack

[unreal ridge]

600 because that’s trikes lmb

The lmb is supposed to be the reliable attack that doesn’t do anything special but damage and doesn’t cost stamina

you always need to see what damage you are doing

600 is more like the baseline rather than lowest

[vital laurel]

or well, the "bite" does 250, but only if it doesnt CC

[unreal ridge]

More powerful attacks = higher stam cost/slower/etc

[vital laurel]

with cc its 750 i think

[unreal ridge]

You mean the gore?

like where trike looks down and rips stuff up with its mouth

[vital laurel]

yes, which isnt even a bite per say, its horns+ bite as far as i see

[unreal ridge]

Yeah that attack is also supposed to dismember stuff

So 750 damage + losing an arm or something

As seen in trikes concept art

I wouldn’t mind Rex being able to like 5 shot stego just because Stego can do the same if you aren’t dumb
Use mace whip and then switch to default swing (specifically from the side which swings 2x as fast as any other direction) to deal what 8k damage to finish off Rex?

I’m guessing deino and Rex will share 8 tons of weight/health

[indigo gulch]

yeah, but somehow it's easier to find ai than plants

[indigo gulch]

yes.

[gritty heart]

that's why you play as an omnivore, gotta eat it all

[indigo gulch]

I just love people saying ''it's easier to find food as deino, just eat ai''

[unreal ridge]

The plants are all in one area

Migration zones in the HT have like what 5x the food now?

You gotta move to get the food

I hope they start phasing out the animal AI in favor of dinosaur AI

not completely get rid of them, however they should be rarer than currently

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message just remove the mutation

i don’t see why gastro should not work with troodon specifically, this mutation is either in the game and working or it’s not in the game

and i would prefer it not being in the game at all.

[ancient kestrel]

It still will be bullied by mighty dryo

[ancient kestrel]

what is cc?

[ancient kestrel]

I wonder if Rex will retain bone snap chance from Legacy

[vital laurel]

knockdown

[quartz meteor]

@safe hearth "I know it's a lot of work, but it would be nice if the walking animation of the trike was completely overhauled.
His gait looks terrible: his lower back moves too much, his hips move like he has arthritis, and his deltoids are too stretched.
Unfortunately, it doesn't look very nice.

His shield is also too small in proportion to his body."

Just wait till you see rex. My poor boy doesn't even look half as intimidating as it did in Legacy.

[gritty heart]

crowd control (for the literal cc meaning)

[unreal ridge]

bone snap + ability to eat stuff alive basically

[safe hearth]

Yay i did say that to an friend too today.
To see trike makes me afraid about rex
But who knows, let's wait

[unreal ridge]

rex will throw you into obstacles, smash you into trees or the ground

generally just treat anything below 4 tons like a ragdoll

sorry maia

[quartz meteor]

Well… if what I’ve been seeing is the final model… all I’m going to say is… yeah…

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-gif-9546601117073941825

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-little-abby-mallard-duck-cartoon-disney-gif-16283148984773763905

[ancient kestrel]

I thought eating something alive is gigas thing

Flesh grazing

[woeful latch]

wait from what movie is that? i got some childhood memories

[quartz meteor]

Chicken little lol

[woeful latch]

ty

[quartz meteor]

No problem! Glad I made a positive impact on someone’s life today. 😊

[woeful latch]

aww🥹✨

[unreal ridge]

this

https://imgur.com/fUbp1Gv

it pins you down and rips off your limbs and internal organs

[ancient kestrel]

Isn't it crush mechanic?

[unreal ridge]

crush would be big enough to rex to pick up

like a dilo would be completely crushed

[quartz meteor]

I’m so calling Peta

[ancient kestrel]

I mean that this mechanic not about eating someone but just ripping apart and crushing

[quartz meteor]

I wonder if Rex will be a canni by default

[white elm]

hope not

[unreal ridge]

hope so

[quartz meteor]

Well there has to be some sort of population control

[unreal ridge]

whats a better population control than only the strong survive

[white elm]

cannibalism isn't population control, its the opposite

[quartz meteor]

Not to mention when it is released, how is anyone going to survive if the entire server is Rex lol

How is it the opposite

[lean holly]

This is where its strange, I have no over heating issues whatsoever in general, with other games that are much more demanding than the isle. Though whenever I start playing it, the temperature reach 80s c

[quartz meteor]

Isn’t that literally why Deino and cera are cannibalistic

[white elm]

and how common are ceras?

[lean holly]

I would recommend playing on semi realism servers who cap the number of certain dinos

[quartz meteor]

Well, being cannibalistic doesn’t stop people from mega packing… so…

[thick summit]

megapacks would go around and murder everything and should one of them die, they can just eat their buddy's corpse to survive

[lean holly]

Very common

[white elm]

exactly

cannibalism only makes it easier to survive, as there is more food options

[lean holly]

Its also amazing for population control

[white elm]

its not tho

[ancient kestrel]

Get copium. They were notorious for that IRL

[thick summit]

cannibalism works for deino

[lean holly]

Chill brother

[quartz meteor]

Well it must not be that bad, there is a literal cannibalistic mutation you can unlock

[thick summit]

but not for terrestrial apexes

[white elm]

Imagine this

[quartz meteor]

?

[quartz meteor]

How do you figure this?

[thick summit]

Cera is an excellent example why cannibalism doesn't work for terrestrial animals

[white elm]

a baby rex finds an adult rex corpse

if it isn't a cannibal, its diet is nuked and it gets all the cannibalism debuffs, so it has a lower chance of surviving

if it IS a cannibal, it gets better diet and no negative debuffs, so it has a higher chance of surviving

plus, why would cannibalism encourage them to attack each other? they could just team up, make giant packs, and eat whatever members die

[thick summit]

• megapacks are way more common

do you want 10 rexes going around murdering everything?

should one of them fall they can just feed on the corpse

[quartz meteor]

No it does work completely fine. But as I stated earlier, being a canni, isn’t going to stop groups of people from mega packing.

[ancient kestrel]

A baby T-rex finds adult trike corpse and same thing happens lol

[lean holly]

Because first, its a pvp game, second ; you always need food and third : there can only be one rule

[quartz meteor]

It’s going to happen regardless

[white elm]

my point is, being a cannibal gives you access to more food options

[thick summit]

it's making mega packing way harder

[ancient kestrel]

To be fair canibalistic mut will be a thing anyway

[quartz meteor]

Did we want 20 dibbles running around cannibalizing the servers? No… but here we are. Just look at trike… they’re literally doing the same thing already on horde test

[ancient kestrel]

They don't eat meat

[lean holly]

Yeah but don't forget that as time goes on, people will play it less

It kind of evens out once player want to move on back to their mains

[thick summit]

that's because they are herbis and some players just wanna ruin the experience

[quartz meteor]

Well I mean, wouldn’t that logic also hold for Rex?

[thick summit]

nope

[lean holly]

absolutely

[thick summit]

rex eats meat. If rex can't feed on dead rexes it'll be forced to leave the megapack

because a lone trike won't feed 10 rexes

[lean holly]

There will be a big amount of rexes, but rexes that make it to adult? a lot less. Don't forget that it will be more likely that you will get killed if you play as a juvi rex since player won't want another apex roaming around

So basically only more skilled players will make it to adult

[quartz meteor]

Eh… I’ll give you that. That does make some form of sense

So then why wouldn’t the same situation hold true to deinos and ceras?

[lean holly]

It does but not on the same level since they are much easier to grow

Not only they can scavenge on everything, they also either grow quick OR live in water so they just live an easier life

[ancient kestrel]

By the way I don't really feel like debufsf from canibalism are affect anything significantly except you randomly bites air and can't nest properly

[quartz meteor]

Beipi needs to be a canni, along with galli.

True omnivores

[lean holly]

From what I know if you cannibalize too much you get sick so eventually the debuff is quite interesting

[quartz meteor]

Not only a piscivore

[ancient kestrel]

peskyvore

[thick summit]

ceras do that but deino can't really megapack

[quartz meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/really-though-justin-rtype00-stare-gif-5723999

[thick summit]

The only reliable food source is fish and other deinos

[lean holly]

Ceras will get a nerf anyway so I do believe the amount of players on it will lower

[thick summit]

and fish isn't enough to keep a grown deino alive for too long

[quartz meteor]

You don’t go to highlands or south plains that often do you… 😂

[lean holly]

whats a deino megapack for you?

[thick summit]

I usually avoid those places

[lean holly]

how many individuals

[quartz meteor]

Hence your response

[thick summit]

I mean those deinos don't really have a high success rate

[quartz meteor]

I just feel that being a canni for Rex would definitely open windows for population control. If I’m a Rex… and I’m on the verge of dying from starvation… you better bet your ass I’m eating a smaller Rex if that is all I have access to.

[frank tapir]

but that made it easier for you to survive, when instead you could have died and the population would still be reduced, but a bigger rex would have died

[quartz meteor]

Yes, but that also means one less Rex to worry about.

[frank tapir]

if you had died of starvation, it would have also been one less rex to worry about

but you are a more worrying rex, you're bigger, it would be better for everyone if you had died

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message I think this system won't work properly because creature might be close to each other because they are figthing for prolonged time or something in which case this might be abused

[potent glade]

Guys, they will not add more servers for testing if they don't need any more people testing. To big of a number of testers could be detrimental towards the goal. The amount of people testing something has to be limited and controlled. So if they decide they need more data, they will add more servers, not sooner.

[pliant elm]

#general-feedback message @rugged timber I agree with what you said, this new grass and soil is just horrible

They removed the green land underneath the grass to put in a very ugly orange land

[hidden pilot]

the grass is peak, the render distance is not

[rugged timber]

the grass looks dried out and in some places like beaches it doesnt fit at all

and then orange colour from the ground in hl and general pathways is just eww

[pliant elm]

I don't understand what they thought when they put this new terrain color anywhere on the map, it made the map very ugly

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

the dilo scream is half the fun

[rugged timber]

yeah straight up downgrade and the work on the trike if you just think about it they posted pictures and animations of it in the year 2020 and now its 2025 and its just a huge dissapointment for me

[pliant elm]

What I disliked most about the trike was its running animation, didn't they know that the legacy community already hated it and didn't change it?

[rugged timber]

seems like 5 years is not enough for a change lmao

[hidden pilot]

womp

[worthy plover]

@gritty heart oh im not saying dont have a loud portion, im saying have a creepy or ominous build up to that loud portion or dilo scream

[gritty heart]

I suppose that's fair. For me the suddenness of the scream is part of what makes it have a jumpy feel (especially with its softer other calls). Feels more like something that goes "boo". Definitely agree with that for the raptor ones (especially on troo, which given its small size feels like it can use the anticipation more)

[worthy plover]

Thats a good point too. Are they implementing a tap and hold call for every calls 1-4. That could still allow the sudden scream of the dilo call if it holds down the 3 call and the ominous creepy stuff if it just taps it.