general-feedback-discussion

[white elm]

can we get back to talking about why carno doesn't need bleed on its charge ?

[woeful latch]

can we get back to talking about why carno needs bleed on its charge?

[heady geode]

Carno doesn’t need bleed, it just needs a lot of cheeseburgers

[gritty heart]

A: it’s mostly inconsequential and pointless to add

B: it does matter and therefore would need to be heavily thought out of added at all

[heady geode]

Let’s get that weight back on, ramming damage that can dent a cera

[woeful latch]

yes, i upvote this ✅

[white elm]

https://tenor.com/view/die-spongebob-meme-gif-754776035690869996

[gritty heart]

Usually we turn bulls into burgers

[white elm]

NO CARNO WEIGHT BUFFS

[woeful latch]

i agree with the weight buff.

-# let’s make it 1301kg.

[heady geode]

Cera becomes a Fish eater, no diets, only defend and fish

[woeful latch]

another amazing feedback i agree with

✅✅✅

[heady geode]

ultimate cera balancing

[gritty heart]

Cera becomes elite fish

[woeful latch]

LMAO

[white elm]

please don't let cera fly

[heady geode]

Ceranado

[haughty night]

Carno should be 1500 tbh. It's stats are not good enough to be kept at 1300

[woeful latch]

cera should be 1.6t.

[heady geode]

Granted, top speed of 39

[gritty heart]

It needs to fly to ensure that deinos starve

[white elm]

I have an idea

we turn cera into what carno once was

1.8 tonne cera

[gritty heart]

Add a weight gain mechanic where eating too much without moving around enough makes your dinosaur slower and heavier smh. Gotta stay fit

[heady geode]

Elder raptor seems to be a chunky guy, I wonder if everything’s just going to be Adult +, or if some actually will get weaker with age

2 elder raptors and an adult pinning stego, soon

[woeful latch]

let’s also make it a lot faster and give it horns

[woven bane]

it already does

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message
@cold anvil
I really like that suggestion. Especially since you included an activation part (especially useful for cannibal species).

[woeful latch]

oh wait fr

i think cera needs some kind of a new attack with its “horns” or whatever that thing is

[cold anvil]

Well, many times when I played alone (for example Beipi, which I meet very few) I had a hard time finding someone to build a nest with. I think this option would help people find other players to spend time with.

[woven bane]

would be neat

[gritty heart]

Oh yeah, I’ve basically never encountered a fellow beipi.

[white elm]

#general-feedback message carno doesn't need hp

[woven bane]

improve the charge and carno is fixed, really all it needs

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

Make a branch for people who don't want mutants I guess

[limber hull]

idk i think HT already fixed carno

better growth, better stam, better bleed resist, better turn

[woeful latch]

i don’t get it, everything is gonna be server sided anyway

just disable humans/mutants if you don’t want them

[limber hull]

yea play unofficials if you dont wanna deal with a reaper lol

[frank tapir]

oh it got turn buffs? for when it sprints as well?

[woven bane]

undoubtedly better than before but i still think the charge should work better as a cc, would help it take on packs of small tiers

[woeful latch]

don’t think so

[frank tapir]

ok good

[limber hull]

it did, but technically not buffs

they were bugfixes to the turning

[frank tapir]

why?

ah

[limber hull]

that allowed it to turn better

so YES it turns better but it was a bugfix, not a buff technically

[woeful latch]

ahh i see

[thick summit]

#general-feedback message or just host dinosaur-only servers

[vital laurel]

@visual mural You can just play on a server without them

[normal shuttle]

@visual mural strains, humans and the like were already said to be an option that server admins will be able to enable or disable as they see fit. Also it is rather laughable that things like these "ruin" the game when they were planned to exist since the very beginning and we were told that

[white elm]

they don't ruin the game, they ruin YOUR vision of the game

[normal shuttle]

excellent way to put it

[thick summit]

Just play on dinosaur-only servers. Problem solved.

[normal shuttle]

game was never meant to be a naturalistic, dinosaur-only survival game

It's just that different constraints prevented the vast majority of strains and the like from being implemented in legacy and dinosaur gameplay was/is a focus due to its unique appeal and it being a major selling point since release

[normal shuttle]

exactly

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message
The Isle was never meant to be a dinosaur-only game. Strains/mutants like the reaper, gen1, hypers etc are all a huge part of the game's lore and goal

[topaz kestrel]

If they really add the reaper Im so outta this game lol
Please someone tell me they dont really plan on adding those

[hidden pilot]

why wouldnt they? It's a horror game with the theme of genetic tinkering gone wrong

[topaz kestrel]

The game was also meant to have human survival in it and look where we are now. This games success came from being a cool dino game. Adding entirely fictional mutants like this would ruin the game for me and I think many others aswell. Of course doesnt mean they should not add it if they really plan to but they will have to face the backlash that will potentially come with it

[hidden pilot]

its bee nthe idea from the start

[hidden pilot]

Humans are in active development

and, like others have said, if you really don't like the direction of that, just play dinosaur only servers

[limber hull]

you'd quit over the reaper lol

[topaz kestrel]

How long are u playing this game now?
Humans have been in the game since Spiro and all they added is the human holding a revolver with no other animations to it, no sounds nothing. I would hardly call that "active development"

[limber hull]

really?

[topaz kestrel]

Yes because Im here for a dinosaur game and not to get killed by batman.

[hidden pilot]

very informed of you

[limber hull]

reaper has been here since WAAAY earlier

[hidden pilot]

^

[limber hull]

if you think the reaper is new, you're in for a shock

[topaz kestrel]

I dont think the reaper is new? What makes u think that

[limber hull]

that is a revamp of what i believe to be an over 5 year old concept art

[topaz kestrel]

The devblog even said that its an old concept

[hidden pilot]

new concept*

[topaz kestrel]

Dont put words in my mouth

[limber hull]

and yet you act like it's a new development

[hidden pilot]

not to mention the gen1 concepts(and buits of models) that have been shown recently

[topaz kestrel]

Bruh if they actually add it to the game IT IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
What are u yapping about lol.
Im not here for dumb comments just because I wouldnt like this in the game

[limber hull]

it was always planned tho lol

[hidden pilot]

nothing about the isle has ever said dinosaur only. Look around the map, there's a hulking kilometer wide dome for crying out loud!

[limber hull]

in fact dondi actively discussed his plans to rework the reaper concept art for evrima very early in evrima's development

[topaz kestrel]

Maybe, but they didnt put out even the slightest info about it nor did they actually develop it, as u can see since they just started with concept art. So to blame me just because it was mentioned what 5 years ago is ridiculous.

[topaz kestrel]

Yes thats the humans, Im totally fine with those. They actually exist and fit the lore imo. But when it steps into fantasy territory Im out as simple as that.

[hidden pilot]

concept art is a stage of development. The planning and rough drafts of which also are

[limber hull]

not blaming you. just saying that to act as if this is a sudden change of character is a bit bizarre

[hidden pilot]

OH BUDDY THE LORE

[limber hull]

if you wanna avoid these playables, there'll likely be servers for it

[hidden pilot]

all of these things you don't want fit the lore in every which way

[topaz kestrel]

Ok so 5 years ago the reaper was a thing and now youre acting like its been actively developed all this time?!
Talking about things is another thing than actually putting work into it.

Idk why ure so aggressively trying to make me look stupid just because I said I dont want mutants in the game 🤣

[hidden pilot]

what?

Im not trying to make anyone seem stupid, and certainly not aggressively

[topaz kestrel]

If its like humans were its not on officials sure, but I fear that most servers will have those

[hidden pilot]

humans will be on officials, almost certainly

[limber hull]

just play the pure dino unofficial community that will almost absolutely pop up

[hidden pilot]

yep^

[topaz kestrel]

Sure at some point but they havent been in officials nor have they been in the devs priority for a VERY long time.

[normal shuttle]

Still developer vision and something we knew about

[hidden pilot]

they are in priority rn, and have been for several months. It's jsut that the dinosaur part of the game takes a lot longer to flesh out

[normal shuttle]

You should know what youre getting into

[limber hull]

they want complete dinosaurs for the humans to interact with

humans dont really work if there's no dinos to interact with

[normal shuttle]

Also that yeah

Dinosaurs are very much the base

But not the whole thing, never were meant to be everything

[topaz kestrel]

An old vision. Things can change u know. Just because it was a good idea years ago doesnt mean that the devs necessarily think its a good idea now.

So just because its been mentioned years ago I should just stop the game even tho they never mentioned it again or put actual work into it?

[hidden pilot]

not an old vision

this stuff has been mentioned and talked about LOTS

[urban flax]

Why would they change the very thing the game is about without warning anyone, and all the while Dondi has been busing completing the lore for all that time ?

[topaz kestrel]

Yet I havent seen a SINGLE devblog mentioning this how weird.

[hidden pilot]

because devblogs arent the only way they communicate

I suggest you look for the information you're speaking on

[topaz kestrel]

Ok Im out lol

I came here to talk about the reaper and adding it to the game not needing to read 10 times that "its been planned from the start and actively developed".

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[limber hull]

things CAN change, but they've wanted this for as long as the game has existed

[normal shuttle]

old vision

They were meant to exist since before the game released, strains were added in the early days of progression, and throughout the legacy years we did hey some dev work on other strains and also the cannibals. They kept working on things just as lower priority, and why would they change that without telling anyone?

[hidden pilot]

ok bye

@sharp snow It is a hordetest, that's to be expected

[sharp snow]

yeah, im just saying, it's been a while now. and it's not really feeling significantly better.... 2-3 patches... what the heck they do to cripple performance this much!?

[hidden pilot]

180 pop servers

loads of people trying to cram in

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message ngl i despise buffing weight and stats to make small tiers more “fun”

[hidden pilot]

dryo just needs burrowing

blessed that day will be

[limber hull]

100% agreed

you aren't addressing the issue, just funneling it into a "more PvP viable" animal

[woven bane]

they did that once with troodon and it didn’t work out so well

[thick summit]

Small tiers just need more PvE mechanics

Let dryo pick up stuff and place it in its burrow to decorate it

Similar to birds

Small tiers should have more interactions with other small animals as well

[vital laurel]

@acoustic spruce those games arent permadeath though

[heady geode]

I love the misspellings of Maia, we have mira, maja, mia. What could be next for those creatures

[heady geode]

@thin mango kind of a thing in petit, they lock dinosaurs when there’s too many, but you can still play them if you get an egg if the species. Why is can’t and would never work for officials though, cera exists

Everything but cera, ptera, and herra would be extinct almost immediately as nesting is ground based

[hardy locust]

msia

[thin mango]

This is a more in-the-future suggestion. I mean, I would play on such a server, unofficial or official

[heady geode]

msaa is my favourite dinosaur

[hardy locust]

fr

[merry ore]

#general-feedback message
What do you think of my late afternoon birdsong, boys?

[heady geode]

It would be a unique sound to hear, for a specific hour of the game suddenly every single animal cries out

[merry ore]

The hypsis making their beautiful song to find members of their species and discovering that they are not alone lol

[heady geode]

Or a complete depressing opposite, where the one dryo in a herd calls out only to find, he really is alone

[merry ore]

In your opinion, do you think the afternoon/evening time is too short?

In the morning the animals have 5 hours of communication, in the afternoon they only have 2 hours of communication, or does it seem balanced?

[merry ore]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-shark-marvel-rivals-jeff-shark-jeff-the-shark-sad-jeff-the-shark-meme-gif-4315446982470287262

I mean, Dryo is used to being alone and thinking he's the last of his kind, it doesn't hurt to give him the opportunity to find someone of his kind on the map considering he hasn't covered the entire map.

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message
@wooden helm

Herras would use those rocks to be even more dangerous/annoying

[wooden helm]

I mean a few stones so that raptors/trodons/ptera could rest on them safely away from the reach of carno or cera. They would be too low for hera

[ancient kestrel]

Yeah but it occasionally happened that dinosaur gameplay is what really made The Isle unique cause there is already so many human survival games and this game offered very unique concept of playing something which isn't human in survival game. So adding humans is just less special thing than dinosaur gameplay on overall picture

Yeah I pretty much agree that smaller islands around Gateway needs something if they are part of the map #general-feedback message

Like they take some space pretty much for nothing and better if they will have something.

[wary cargo]

every time I get kicked from the horde test i lose my dino is this happening to anyone else?

I'm not gonna participate if this keeps happening

[short sequoia]

Is there a way to fix the sticks when having a nest? After 3 to 5 hatchings, my game starts to get laggy from all the unpickable sticks.

[icy lion]

@bronze niche It's already in this hordetest

[bronze niche]

IT IS????

i didnt see any changelogs maybe i just didnt read enough but thanks

[wary cargo]

How do the spawn codes work I see it but there's no option to copy and paste like I thougjt there was suppose to be

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message I don't t agree that those mutations should be removed but speed bonus from them definitely must be gone and changed for something else

[wary cargo]

It's just blank there

[heady geode]

show your growth %, you have to be practically fresh spawn

[maiden frost]

Why do people want more herbi food?

[frank tapir]

because more apexes are getting added

[heady geode]

dont even need more, just different plant types that only the big guys could reach, like the nut trees that only pachy can bonk down (in the one in a million that the nuts even spawn)

A lone stego devours entire patrol zones for 40% food, what could a trike get out of one

[wary cargo]

ah I didn't know that

[haughty night]

and also because bigger herbis have to become prehistoric lawnmowers in order to fill 1% of their hunger

[pliant elm]

Dude, these mutations just break the game, there's no point in leaving them

[pliant elm]

Each dino has a pre-set speed for balancing reasons.

[acoustic spruce]

Ik but my point for that feature is to get rid of the force field that you could see

[vital laurel]

the force field doesn't kill you though

[white elm]

#general-feedback message what are you even suggesting

[gritty heart]

Presumably infanticide, which already exists

[acoustic spruce]

It does something worse, it’s an eye sore and breaks immersion. I don’t think it would be a problem unless you consciously wanted to go out of the games barrier to which you’ll be greeted with something

[frank tapir]

@acoustic spruce #general-feedback message when you say skin do you mean the model? Because the model you sent doesn't have a texture

[white elm]

Are they saying to add a carcharodontosaurid??

[normal shuttle]

acro and giga: am I a joke to you?

[white elm]

Or are they saying to add a mechanic where two carnis can carry a body together??

[normal shuttle]

maybe

or just herbi bashing and carni favoritism which...well

[limber hull]

the dino gameplay isn't going anywhere tho?

[limber hull]

to add this to the game

[white elm]

what do it MEAN

[limber hull]

i hope they add that to the game

[white elm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[white elm]

@maiden frost

[last tulip]

Can anyone explain how elite fish spawn works? I traveled up and down the largest river on the map and not a single elite fish was in the water

from top to bottom

[coarse spruce]

#general-feedback message
speed yes, weight no

but I think a speed buff is more deserved for troodon than dryo, troodon won't have an underground lair to retreat to when things get dicey

[maiden frost]

It's that simple

[white elm]

explain yourself

[maiden frost]

No

[fiery kestrel]

Am I allowed to ask a question here?

[untold geyser]

#general-feedback message what

[heady geode]

Questions are fine, especially ask @maiden frost What Does It Meannnnnn

[fiery kestrel]

okay thank you! c: I had a question, if anyone can help. Please and thank you! I was just wondering if there is any way to fix sound stuttering? I run at fine FPS, I have better FPS then even my friends, but somehow I'm still dealing with sound stuttering and they dont have this issue.

[heady geode]

Comically large dinosaur playing slipping rope with dinosaur?!

[white elm]

am I insane or does that seem racist

[heady geode]

That seems more #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 question than a feedback question

[untold geyser]

it does

[fiery kestrel]

Oh okay! sorry! Thanks for your help

[untold geyser]

no matter the intent, the age-old freudian slip of omitting "people" is evil to me

[heady geode]

Rephrased as a good thing and get the same result, but he couldn’t help but segregate 😔

Like, Chinese servers for better ping, because their only options are Australian for high ping, and Europe for high ping, so spoilt

[untold geyser]

there are asia servers, no?

[heady geode]

One, when have you ever seen it populated either lol

As1, they even removed the AS discord channel because they know none would used it

[wet marsh]

yo this game is abvsolutely a mess. yall have had over 10 years and you cant even open the game without jumping through 100 hoops. sad

[heady geode]

1 hoop, but still dumb, you got two games in one though

[white elm]

mhm

[limber hull]

tf are you talking about you just open the game and it opens lmao

how are you having trouble with this

[woeful latch]

lol

[gritty heart]

On the contrary. The slip is requiring “people” be added, for the moral individual treats all as people without having to have it specified. They are so moral that they wouldn’t even consider the possibility that people groups wouldn’t be inherently considered, well, people.

So you will find that my client is the moral one in our situation, a paragon within the community

[subtle swan]

#general-feedback message Source: trust me bro

Anything with large eyes that are forward facing, high on the head probably had excellent binocular vision (e.g. all raptors, rex...)

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
Looks like I didn't miss it all

[subtle swan]

rex and deino would have weighed about the same IDK where he's getting it from lol.

[junior nymph]

outdated sources

aka his brain

[subtle swan]

Also @sonic mica Stegs are 6 ton FG, Deinos are 8.

[acoustic spruce]

Yea, more specifically using the same movement mechanics etc

[ancient kestrel]

Are you able to read? I said that speed buff should be changed for other bonus. That's enough to fix issue with those

[ancient kestrel]

That wasn't my point. Just said that it doesn't really matter what devs meant this game to be, rather matters what it became

[sonic mica]

I was half drunk when i typed allat 😭

[subtle swan]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-high-stoned-drunk-guy-ping-pong-gif-2647509012281122666

[white elm]

<@&933486433342222376> steam crap in #general-feedback

[night obsidian]

#general-feedback message @sonic mica where do you get your facts from? Deinosuchus in real life didn't exceed 7 tons and was usually even lighter. What you're saying is straight up wrong. Also making deinosuchus 15 tons would horribly destroy balance. And if you're talking about accuracy (which the devs are not always going for) Stegosaurus would be between 3-4 tons at best. Try to balance that. All your "facts" are wrong

[woeful latch]

damn you homunculus! i missed 50$ steam gift card because of you..

[white elm]

[night obsidian]

Ridiculous 🤣

[haughty night]

fr

[night obsidian]

The "facts" are insane 🤣

[haughty night]

12-15 tonnes is way too much. Irl deinosuchus was like 6-7 anyway. This guy just casually suggesting deinosuchus be able to pull down anything and everything

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message Please, 1000% yes! It's really annoying to occasionally finding out that you ate cropse of your own species because you can't see or drag it properly to notice that untill it's too late.

I wonder why someone disliked it

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message way too low threshold

60-70% would be reasonable

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message people really want maia to be a hunter, nice

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message @sonic mica you may have been told this before, but Wikipedia, chatgpt or normal google answers popping up as well as random non academic websites are NOT a reliable source of information especially for paleontology

[pliant elm]

Any mutation that changes the initial value of any playable character's stats must not remain in the game

[thick summit]

^

also, deinosuchus is NOT twice as large as the largest T.rex

[ancient kestrel]

What. But most of muts do change stats. Changing stats is the element which makes muts attractive a

[normal shuttle]

That sounds like some random website bs

[thick summit]

The largest Tyrannosaurus is 11t. That'd make deino 22t.

The largest deinosuchus specimens were 12-13t

[normal shuttle]

Deino bigger than shant

[thick summit]

lmao

[normal shuttle]

JW Mosa

[thick summit]

fr

[pliant elm]

I'm talking about mutations that change their status: life, damage, speed, agility, spin, things like that, understand?

Survival mutations are very cool and can stay in the game, but these other mutations just ruin the game

[ancient kestrel]

Bruh. So you think that, let's say, multichambered lungs is bad for balnce because it adds 5% to stamina threshold?

Oh, this pic is old. Some muts not like that anymore

[thick summit]

speed mutations, gastro and damage mutations have to go. Everything else is fine

[pliant elm]

These mutations, despite not affecting much, should still not remain in the game regardless of how weak they are.

[ancient kestrel]

Why? Isn't that a point of mutations that they allow some variety in playstyle of your species with little bit tweaking of stat

[pliant elm]

Although I don't mind these mutations, the problem is really with the damage mutatios, speed, gastro and tactile

[urban flax]

The issue is that speed or combat mutations do not allow some variety in playstyle, they are mandatory because combat and or/running fast is mandatory for survival

[pliant elm]

What I see most in The Isle currently is that people have gotten used to these mutations and barely know how to play without them, so any suggestion about removing them gets a lot of negative votes.

[urban flax]

Match-ups aren't decided over who can stay the longest without drinking, they are decided over who runs faster, who deals more damage, who has more stamina
Any mutation affecting any of those become necessary for survival because they impact balance a lot

[thick summit]

The balance gets really messy because of said mutations

[ancient kestrel]

I agree only on speed and gastro which can be just changed to be different bonuses but tactile is requiring you to be damaged so it have trade-off. And also I have no idea why damage mut is bad at any capacity

[urban flax]

Tactile endurance is one of the most OP mutations in the game lol

Endurance is just as important, if not more important than health

[thick summit]

Because some creature does more damage than an apex with damage mutations

30% increased damage is quite a lot, isn't it?

[ancient kestrel]

How you will get 30%?

[ancient kestrel]

Uhm I doubt

[pliant elm]

Tactile is the most broken mutation along with gastronomic, And damage mutations transform animals that are already strong into something absurdly worse, as is the case of the cerato causing +450 in the charged bite

[thick summit]

Cera can literally go full damage, throw up until it's close to starvation, bite let's say a teno and 2-3 shot it

[thick summit]

it's quite easy! You just go full damage

[ancient kestrel]

Let him try to kill me if I have enlarged meniscus so I can jump from him from a cliff without dying

[thick summit]

me when

[pliant elm]

?

[urban flax]

Why pick the extremely situational enlarged meniscus when you can just go damage muts as well and kill them, or speed mut and outrun them no matter the terrain

[ancient kestrel]

How exactly?

How you get 30%?

[pliant elm]

I know what this mutation does, but what do you mean by that? Xd

[ancient kestrel]

I mean by that his bite damage doesn't mean much if I can escape by jumping from a cliff.

[thick summit]

you just use every damage mutation

[woeful latch]

all the damage mutations combined, i think it’s even like 35%

[thick summit]

it's that easy 😭

[ancient kestrel]

Yeah but here is an issue. One of them applies only when target is low health

[woeful latch]

oh nvm it’s 15+10+5

[pliant elm]

Your solution to something that is completely broken in the game rather than suggesting a nerf or removal is to run away and forget about it?

[thick summit]

that means the fight gets easier

[ancient kestrel]

It only gets easier if you good

[thick summit]

damage mutations, speed mutations and gastro should go

[ancient kestrel]

Also another one requires you to have full stomuch

[woeful latch]

quite opposite

[pliant elm]

Dr poison, what is the dino What do you play the most?

[thick summit]

mutations should be QoL elements and not a META element to make your dinosaur broken

[ancient kestrel]

Oh.... But it kind of risky if think about that

[thick summit]

it's literally the opposite and only benefits an already overtuned playable

[urban flax]

Mutations were supposed to allow people to specialize
It's not specializing if there is a specific set of mutations that wins against everything else

[woeful latch]

doesn’t matter tbh, getting 30% damage buff with mutations not to mention you can also get 15% damage reduction to have more hp is ridiculous

[pliant elm]

You play as a main cerato, man? Because that's what it looks like

[ancient kestrel]

Dilo, Troo. I played cera for a bit when returned to the game this year but got bored of how much people play them on servers

[woeful latch]

fellow troodon🥹

[thick summit]

I've become a troodon enjoyer

by the way

[woeful latch]

it’s a little rat, but i love it

[thick summit]

they gave carno its legacy fall damage resistance

[pliant elm]

So why are you disagreeing about removing these mutations?????

[thick summit]

I killed an omni midair while we were falling off a cliff...and I took no damage

that was metal

[ancient kestrel]

Because how I supposed to kill goats as baby troodon in reasonable amount of time? ( I rarely see chickens or rabits on servers)

[thick summit]

baby troodons are supposed to scavenge and eat compies once they're back in the game

[urban flax]

So you're in favor of certain mutations existing and completely destroying balance JUST so you can kill goats as a baby troodon ? (Whi has no reason to be possible tbh)

[pliant elm]

My friend, these mutations make no difference, not even for a 100% troodon 😭😭😭

[ancient kestrel]

It's a joke for distraction. My main statement here will be that instead of straight up removing something better just to change it to be balanced. Balncing isn't only about deleting something you know

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[urban flax]

Well, if damage mutations were changed to no longer affect damage and speed mutations changed to no longer affect speed, then it'd be fine
But it's pretty similar to removing them

[pliant elm]

And how are these mutations going to be altered? What changes would need to be made?

[thick summit]

you should totally make an El Diablo GIF

[desert arch]

No inspiration

[ancient kestrel]

PT and Nocturnal isn't only about speed lol

[urban flax]

But speed is the only reason people ever pick them

[pliant elm]

There is no other solution regarding these mutations other than removing them from the game or leaving their values at 0.

[woeful latch]

this is what happens to troodon haters

[ancient kestrel]

Well speed can be changed for stamina recovery for example

[urban flax]

Or if they're given a downside important enough it could work
But the speed buff is still too strong

[desert arch]

My clips better smh

[woeful latch]

i think it’s still my favorite clip ever

that ptera was probably scared as hell

[woeful latch]

pfff no!!!

[desert arch]

Ok, my name is cheesy

[normal shuttle]

My carnivore preferences are so tragic

[thick summit]

hello cheesy!

[normal shuttle]

I used to like carno and dilo in legacy a lot and I didn’t want to play Carno until now because of how overused and how much of an unstoppable crutch it was on release

And then evrima dilo is…well, evrima dilo

[woeful latch]

@desert arch what about now?

[normal shuttle]

And now I really like cera in evrima but it is way too overused right now

[woeful latch]

do you like my username?

[normal shuttle]

Yes

[desert arch]

You pinged yourself, imagine

[woeful latch]

i didn’t!

[desert arch]

Youll never get my cool pfp

[thick summit]

you guys should swap PFPs

[desert arch]

I made it myself, so you cant steal it from the internet

[normal shuttle]

They should have a cute relationship shared pfp

[urban flax]

Oh no, not the wavepoole incident again

[woeful latch]

i got better one tho!

[ancient kestrel]

By the way what exactly mean "reduce stamina regeneration threshold, 5%"? It sounds very vague for me

[thick summit]

and potato should rename themselves to my name is cheesy

[woeful latch]

i can steal it from discord!!

[desert arch]

Wait imagine

I could troll the duck out of flows

[thick summit]

LMAO

[desert arch]

Peak idea

[normal shuttle]

The threshold to which you can regen stam in a certain movement setting

[woven bane]

you’re not that smart

[normal shuttle]

So if you regen stamina while trotting at 60% normally now it would be 55

[thick summit]

dang it

[desert arch]

Party pooper

[normal shuttle]

Isle dinosaurs popping when

[woeful latch]

LMAO DO IT

[woven bane]

your elaborate scheme won’t work

[woeful latch]

oh no someone summoned flows

[ancient kestrel]

Oh... That actually pretty nice even if it's very small bonus - still usefull to have

[woeful latch]

fun ruined :(

[urban flax]

You did, like you always do

[woeful latch]

lmao real

[woven bane]

potato summoned me this time

[woeful latch]

flows probably secretly in love with me

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message technically the maia got unstuck

Works as intended ngl

[desert arch]

(He is)

[woven bane]

y’all have lost it

[woeful latch]

😳 knew it.

that explains everything.

[woven bane]

i’m not into men

just clarifying

[normal shuttle]

How can you know if you never tried?

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/angai313-spongebob-sad-spongebob-crying-gif-21679826

[ancient kestrel]

I really understimated this mutation considering that it's not free and player have to earn it

[normal shuttle]

It’s a bit mid ngl

Would be meta if it was 10-15% reduction

[ancient kestrel]

10% will be just about right spot for it

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-walter-white-screaming-breaking-bad-walter-walter-gif-27285909

[normal shuttle]

40 people that should be on our Isle Stan watchlist

Bad takes everywhere

[ancient kestrel]

Considering that it requires some memory to know where those thresholds visually it isn't that cheesy

[normal shuttle]

So many newcomers who have bad takes and think this is a realism server

[normal shuttle]

CHEESY??

[woeful latch]

did someone just say “cheesy”?

[ancient kestrel]

Cheesy - means absurdly cheap and effective strat on gamer language dude

[wintry cipher]

Server owners are already able to customize their servers and turn humans or dinos they dont want on and off. So if people want realism they can get realism. If they want a mutants vs humans fightpit with no dinos they can get that too. No need to make an entirely different beta for a feature that already exists 😂

[woeful latch]

yeah, that’s me

basically how i play the isle or any other game

[urban flax]

People see legacy, and evrima and spiro being all separate branches and think "yo we should get more of this"

[wintry cipher]

Theyll get a very rude awakening when legacy gets shut down then lol

[ancient kestrel]

I still surprised that Evrima branch not even mentioned on a steam page unless people will look into devblog news

[urban flax]

Hopefully that'll change soon

[ancient kestrel]

They don't change it like for 4 years lol

[woeful latch]

because it’s still beta, legacy is technically a main branch, because it’s more or less finished game, evrima is definitely not, even tho it got more content

[urban flax]

They will have to at some point

[woeful latch]

so just wait for the release

[wintry cipher]

Theyre prob just trying to keep chugging along to get elders out. We are getting /tons/ of stuff this HT already with more to come

[urban flax]

The definition of "finished game" is very broad here

[wintry cipher]

Its no longer recieving updates, so by technicality and more in the fatalistic sense its a finished game

[ancient kestrel]

Everyone knows that development must be ended at some point because there is always something to tweak or add in developer eyes. Related to the game development in general

[woeful latch]

well it’s not finished, if it was dev would update the steam page.

[urban flax]

I mean
There's having a steam page showcasing an unfinished early access game
And there's having a steam page showcasing an abandoned early access game

[ancient kestrel]

That exact issue which I have with steam page currently

[hidden pilot]

Hide your loved ones

from those animals...

[ancient kestrel]

By the way it's hard to scavenge is troo juvie if there is no one in the area when you spawned at, let say, swamps

[thick summit]

Troodon can spawn at the swamps?

Well the swamps are usually very scarce so try to get to south plains if you spawn there

[ancient kestrel]

Yes. Also devs decreased speed of fresh troo on Hordetest so it only 13 km/h 💀

[thick summit]

Yeah that sucks

[ancient kestrel]

I wish that some small critters like grashoppers and rats will be aded to sancturies soon

[thick summit]

But it got a speed increase as an adult iirc

[ancient kestrel]

Nope. It's still 45 km/h as adult

[thick summit]

Ah damn

[ancient kestrel]

Unless stats screen is lieng

[thick summit]

Doubt it

[ancient kestrel]

Oh wait. I mistaked swamps with east lake

Still very scarce area

[thick summit]

How do ya starve there

There’s literally a sanctuary

[ancient kestrel]

Idk, whenever I spawn there - no one sticking in this sanctuary

I forced to hunt goats here

[desert arch]

Tbf even if there was someone, juvi troodon cant kill anything

Whopping 1 dmg per pounce as a fresh spawn

[ancient kestrel]

Well it is possible to kill frespawn raptor or gally

[desert arch]

Not anymore with the 13kmh speed 😔 💔

[woeful latch]

not true.

it can kill another juvie troodon👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-internet-slow-internet-cast-wizard-gif-15526244104305474494

[woeful latch]

poor freaking thing, god bless its little soul

i want compy playable just to be natural enemy for juvie troodons

[pliant elm]

We need to move so that Troodon can receive a buff and have its speed as well. JUSTICE FOR TROODON ✊

[woeful latch]

i think i figured

let’s ask for troodon nerfs instead

and maybe then they will buff it

[desert arch]

What if I eat you

[woeful latch]

🫦

[desert arch]

Naw

I changed my mind

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-potato-kitty-asmr-gif-17215228159060317844

what if i eat you first.

[desert arch]

Sorry, Im not into men either

[woeful latch]

me either.

but there’s 50% chance i’m lying right now

[pliant elm]

Do this in a private place, I'm grieving for the poor creature the devs hate

[woeful latch]

potato started that, what a weirdo!

#general-feedback message i like this idea.

[subtle swan]

and also, it only exists on already strong herbivores (I think?) which makes them able to just spam alt attacks, or run forever while getting love taps from other players.

#general-feedback message I wanna know why Ceras are faster in water than carno. Or faster than herra (which is also semi-aquatic, has fish on its diet and uses water as an escape route.)

[eternal moss]

@vital laurel im pretty sure maia swims really fast because it has 4 legs.

and i dont see why ptera should get a swim speed buff

[subtle swan]

Because it isn't fun to accidentally clip water while fishing, then basically be doomed to drown because you were in the middle of a lake

[vital laurel]

maia is literally a brick with 4 small stump legs bruh

[eternal moss]

yeah, but it wouldn't be very realistic

[vital laurel]

it spends a lot of time around the water

[eternal moss]

it uses its wings to pretty much swim

[subtle swan]

Nor are Dilos with venom but here we are.

[eternal moss]

lmao

[subtle swan]

Or whatever Hypsis are.

Or Herra being a climber.

[eternal moss]

herra being a climber is reasonable

[eternal moss]

i mean yeah, but teno is fast asf as well

[vital laurel]

it has a super powerfull and long tail

and is said to be a good swimmer

[eternal moss]

true

[hidden pilot]

troodon is defnitely not the weakest playable in the game

[gritty heart]

The weakest is probably ptera (especially with how most ptera players fly), but troo is certainly a contender

[pliant elm]

@eternal moss Troodon is not weak, but he could be less worse if his pounce had a stam cost reduced to 3% and had his poison from the 1st mutation (Of course, he should also remove his venom fog)

[hidden pilot]

^

maybe not first mutation but second sounds reasonable

[ancient kestrel]

Well because real life cera possibly was good swimmer

[eternal moss]

its very weak.

every time a encounter a pack of troods, i kill them all with ease

[hidden pilot]

It could also get a water takeoff

[hidden pilot]

bad players simple as that

[pliant elm]

Well, bad players exist in any game.

[eternal moss]

so is every trood player a bad player?

cus it seems like it

ive never once had a troodon pack kill me, unless they kill me while im afk in a bush

[ancient kestrel]

I thought it gets venom at 50% growth

[hidden pilot]

65%

[pliant elm]

1 troodon can kill a 500-700kg cerato, with effort (obviously). 10 good troodons can kill from adult ceratos to stegos xd

[hidden pilot]

requires coordination and, its isle players. Skill is rare

[ancient kestrel]

why 10? I think even 3 enough to kill cera

[pliant elm]

Because it's the maximum group, that's why I said that they can even kill a stego in a group of this size.

[ancient kestrel]

yeah bleeding from bites of 10 troodons will go hard

[pliant elm]

It's rare to find a good Troodon player, there aren't many who play with him because they think like you that he's the "weakest" (I thought that too before playing with him)

[ancient kestrel]

I actually see troo players quite often when play them

[hidden pilot]

troodon is just a very skill required animal if you're planning on punching up

[pliant elm]

Exactly. That's why any nerf they do to him in my opinion is completely unnecessary.

[hidden pilot]

yep

[pliant elm]

Having only 60 health is a disadvantage that invalidates any argument about him being "op"

[hidden pilot]

yeah it should get a health(not weight) buff to like 80

120 was too much

[pliant elm]

And I honestly don't know why people say he's op, if they can't even take care of a small troodon I feel sorry for them when they have to face a cerato xd

[pliant elm]

20 more life doesn't make much difference, the best thing would be to reduce the cost of the pounce, increase the damage of the troodon to what it was (120 in the 3rd stage), remove the fog from the venom and make it have its venom since the 1st mutation

[hidden pilot]

it might not seem like it but it does

[hidden pilot]

its damage was nerfed?

[desert arch]

Yes

[pliant elm]

Yes, 20% nerf

[desert arch]

By nearly 20%

[hidden pilot]

damn why

thats really dumb

[pliant elm]

Devs hate troodon

[desert arch]

Shadow nerf 💔

[hidden pilot]

😔

[pliant elm]

Devs don't like dinos that require skill to use, like the Troodon, which is why they love the Cerato so much and its completely broken charged bite.

[eternal moss]

real

cera is probably what makes the game unbalanced atm

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message @grave marsh
You can report cheaters to server admins, replay is really helpful for this!

you can activate replay recordings in game with f2 if the server allows it

[eternal moss]

yeah but it would be nice to have an ingame reporting system

[woeful latch]

well ermmm technically it’s 16.67%🤓☝️

-# help me please😭

[hidden pilot]

I suppose yeah, though you'd have to find a way that salty people can't just report anyone who kills them

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[eternal moss]

maybe it could take a recording or sm of the last 25 mins of gameplay on the map?

[woeful latch]

now you know how i felt after teno nerf…

[hidden pilot]

mayhaps

[woeful latch]

100 damage tail slam lets gooo

almost regular dilo bite amount of damage

[desert arch]

It was only a 9.1% nerf to the kick smh

[woeful latch]

😭😭😭

[grave marsh]

Thanks!

[woeful latch]

i’m fine with the kick nerf, but tail slam.. i want to tail slam a person who’s idea was to do that

it was probably flows secretly becoming a dev to do that😭 i know it’s him

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[pliant elm]

Teno was nerfed????

[desert arch]

Cheesy when tail slam nerf:

[woeful latch]

it gets nerfed almost every patch lmao

[pliant elm]

At least tell me the cerato got a nerf too

[woeful latch]

no lol

we wish, we can dream

[pliant elm]

Aaaaaaaaaa

I love the isle devs

They do their job so well 😭😭😭😭😭

[woeful latch]

but kissen said cera adjustments are coming soon, so MAYBE they will do something about it

[pliant elm]

For every 1 good change from the devs they go there and make 10 mistakes to compensate

[desert arch]

Bet its a buff

[woven bane]

hope so

[pliant elm]

Cerato will now have its bite charged with 600 damage 🔥🔥

[vital laurel]

Hypsi

Can barely flee, like I’ve over juked them as dilo lol

[woeful latch]

IMAGINE AHAHA

[woeful latch]

you wish, silly cat

imagine cera getting carno treatment, purely a specialist, that would be hilarious, imagine how mad cera mains are going to be lmaoooo

[coarse spruce]

#general-feedback message
"its venom doing absolutely nothing except limiting vision" is this serious?
5+ members gives the prey brain death????

I'm not sure why you would make a balancing suggestion for a dinosaur you don't know the function of

[urban flax]

Also why the Jurassic World Evolution google result

Feels like they searched "was troodon venomous" and didn't get any better than that

[late plank]

anyways , im rn trying to fix the reflective dinos with commands in configs but no luck yet

[woeful latch]

that first screenshot looks amazing

i hate that glossy look dino has like permanently for some reason

[late plank]

rn i had some luck with only some playables

seven hells ive been trying for a while now

i alr did it once on spiro like 2 years ago

okay i am going mad

[late plank]

well i did something , the reflections are still bad

something something idk how to do the reflections

[meager yoke]

@bitter depot I don't think they should make stam regen faster, but I agree that they should maybe look at adjusting the stamina regen curve for smaller dinos like pteranodon and troodon.

[valid delta]

Stamina is a resource to be used sustainably. I see many people sprinting all over the place then having to rest and wait around for it to come back. Utilize stamina better and you will rarely have stamina issues. It should only go below about 70% if you are in a big fight. And after a big fight, you should have to rest awhile. The idea that would fight to the last ounce of strength you have, and then be ready to sprint another marathon in 30 seconds is bonkers. Use stamina thoughtfully and you can remain mobile for hours in-game without ever having to rest for the 2 to 3 minutes that it is to go from 0 to 100. Which is already not that long of a wait really.

[icy lion]

@hidden depot Spawning next to friends is an upcoming feature, it's in the hordetesting branch

[acoustic sapphire]

OMG INCREASER SERVER SIZE TO EU TO 150 AND ADD EVEN MORE SERVER 50 QUE IS MAD

[dire remnant]

Agreed we need more servers asap.. It can't continue on like this

And 100 player limit is way too low. Needs to be 200

[icy lion]

@golden horizon Take it up in their discord server, then

[golden horizon]

I havent gotten a respond from them, and Saif doesnt follow the rules there

[icy lion]

Doesn't mean you get to try and dox their ID and start issues here

[vital laurel]

lumen?

[late plank]

fixing it yeah , im very close now

[vital laurel]

wdym?

[late plank]

so normal isle lumen has this blue glow around stuff right?

[vital laurel]

oh the skin thing

[late plank]

im tryna get rid of that

[vital laurel]

no, thats no lumen

[late plank]

well it did look like that for me sure

[vital laurel]

or do you mean only for dinos?

like the clear coat on dinos?

[golden horizon]

steam ID is public knowlegde

[icy lion]

And we don't permit calling out other players' names or IDs

[golden horizon]

Its not that i show you where people live or names lol

[late plank]

see that blueish glow?

[golden horizon]

I understand

[golden horizon]

I just want to know for future refference, but which rule does that fall under ?

[vital laurel]

on the dinos or in general?

[late plank]

on dinos

[vital laurel]

yeah, thats an issue with the dino material, not the lighting per say

[late plank]

well i pretty much fixed it halfway already

[icy lion]

They're pinned in #evrima-na and the other server channels. I'd like for it to be added as a rule itself since we enforce it across the server but I can't edit the server rules

[golden horizon]

I see them, but these only apply to the official server, not community ones

[icy lion]

We do not allow sharing others names or IDs in general, especially since you're just trying to target them

[golden horizon]

I would have to dissagree, it clearly states that the rules only apply to the official servers which is clear by the message "The Official Server Rules are currently in effect", it does mention name, but it doesnt mention anything about steam ID

[icy lion]

And now here's where rule 3 comes in

[golden horizon]

i don't want to be difficult, i just want us all to be on the same page

[icy lion]

Do not post others' IDs, especially if your intent is to flame or target them

It doesn't matter whether or not it's on an official server, all you were trying to do was get people to dislike them

[golden horizon]

where do you get that from ?

Did you read what i said in the message?

My intentions were pretty clear from the message

When somebody do something bad, they have to be corrected

[icy lion]

And like I already said, here is absolutely not the place for that. Take it up on the Pieds discord server

[golden horizon]

That still doesnt change the fact that the rules doesnt apply to community servers

[icy lion]

It also doesn't change the fact that I've told you it doesn't matter if it was from a community server

[vernal jacinth]

But community servers are by separate people and thus fall under their rules

[faint folio]

Official discord/server admins and mods can't police private servers. You'd have to go to the private server's mods/staff.

[vernal jacinth]

👆

[faint folio]

Also, public shaming of people who you believe to be rule breaking is generally not a good idea. This is because people can lie and claim someone was rule breaking who wasn't, and defamation can cause actual measurable harm

[vernal jacinth]

And counts as cyber bullying among other things

[golden horizon]

not in this case, i had clear evidence, but things are settled now

[faint folio]

Not saying that's necessarily your case, but it's a blanket rule to protect the community at large. Otherwise tomorrow someone who doesn't like you could just tell the whole server they saw you rule breaking, and if enough people believe them it doesn't matter what the truth is anymore, people will stop trusting you. You know?

[golden horizon]

i just dont understand why displaying rulebreakers is a bad thing, they should feel ashamed for not caring about anybody else

[vernal jacinth]

Defamation of character and cyber bullying are real crimes.

Breach of privacy

[golden horizon]

defamation ??

demamation is telling a lie

When you have clear evidence its not a lie

[vernal jacinth]

the action of damaging the good reputation of someone; slander or libel.

[golden horizon]

its like slander

[golden horizon]

if something is fact, its not slander

an untrue oppinion about someone, is slander

[fair jetty]

#general-feedback message @patent pike this whole area is already changed on HT, I recommend checking it out.

[patent pike]

@fair jetty ah nice one. Was unaware of the changes thanks

[vernal jacinth]

Rain take it up with the pieds admins. Lunar already told you the guidelines and rules. At this point you’re just beating around the bush and not liking your results because they don’t benefit you. Move on.

[faint folio]

They should feel ashamed, but it's the responsibility of mods/admins/staff to publish a list if they do this (some servers do publicly publish a list of warnings/strikes, depending on the server). But, there's a reason broken laws go before a judge to determine if actions actually constitute a rule break. Otherwise, you get a mob rule where the truth doesn't matter and witch hunts are common

[golden horizon]

I would refer you to my prev comment #general-feedback-discussion message we are just having a convo rn

[vernal jacinth]

Move on.

[thick summit]

just drop it lmao

[golden horizon]

u really like attention dont you?

[vernal jacinth]

Bye.

[golden horizon]

the only reason i went here, because i didnt get an answer from server or the person, but things are settled now

[thick summit]

just report them in the discord server of the community server and drop it

it's not that hard

[vernal jacinth]

^^^

[thick summit]

also, I am in heaven

[golden horizon]

some people just dont know how to have an adult conversation, and wanna rather make it to something its not, and im not talking about you Iceandi, you and the mods have been very respectful

[faint folio]

#general-feedback message The deino is not bigger because of a thing called "game balance" 🤔

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

making one of the main issues people have with the anti mix pack systems a semi intended exploit is certainly bold

[vernal jacinth]

More like when someone puts up a boundary and says they’re done with the conversation. You’re not respecting it and now they’re done with you.

[golden horizon]

Here we go again, i would refer you to your own comment #general-feedback-discussion message "move on"

[vernal jacinth]

Good bye.

[faint folio]

That is bold 🤣 also I know im in the minority here, but I think herbi/herbi mix packing is just as detrimental to game balance as carni/carni or herbi/herbi mix packing and should be punished equally

At the same time, I'd like if specific interactions were excepted from mix packing rules and encouraged - for example, ptera/deino interactions to clean parasites (if added?)

[vernal jacinth]

That or beipi. Like how capybara hang out with gators and crocs

[gritty heart]

Predators tolerate capys until they feel a rumbling in their stomach.

[gritty heart]

I think it depends on the herbis. A fair amount of herbis irl go together, but not all. Like I could see tenos mixed with maias.

(There are also a few irl predator combos, but these tend to be a lot rarer and more based on special properties)

[faint folio]

This is true, and I'm fine with specific exceptions as I previously mentioned. But some herbi combinations are actively awful for game balance. Likewise, some carni combinations I think could make sense for game balance without being miserable for everyone else

Teno and Maia I don't really mind together, but I also don't think they really should have much of a reason to be in the same area - teno are weird though because for a while they were borderline semi-aquatic, with preferred food near water and swim speeds better than average. They seemed to have moved away from that niche with migrations though, so I'm not sure if that's still the goal

[normal shuttle]

@bitter depot git gud

[hidden pilot]

@sacred carbon you sure you have ambient volume on?

[thick summit]

@quasi idol #general-feedback message Deinosuchus but smaller

literally 😭

[quasi idol]

What

[thick summit]

why would you wanna add purru

it'd not be unique at all

[quasi idol]

The Deinosuchus It was 10-12 meters long while the Puru was 12.5 meters long.

[quasi idol]

Well

[thick summit]

that's incorrect

Deinosuchus is longer and larger than Purrusaurus

[quasi idol]

Source?

[thick summit]

papers

Deinosuchus is the largest crocodylomorph and purru would not be unique at all

[quasi idol]

Ah

[thick summit]

they're just way too similar to be unique

[gritty heart]

Even worse both have similar faces xd. At least sarcho would look unique

[thick summit]

it's not like an Alberto-rex, trike-dibble, kentro-stego, etc. situation, they're similar in size and are very closely related

infact, they're both Alligatorids

[gritty heart]

And all Deinos have the same role. Eat smaller deino

Getting bigger pretty much only serves to put you higher on the deino food chain

[thick summit]

yeah

I don't see purru winning against a deino either

[quasi idol]

It would be like the gigatonosaurus and the carcharadontosaurus?

[quasi idol]

Ik but

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

@vital laurel

I think letting herbis graze (potentially even full) but having grazing provide “empty” diet could be interesting. Kinda showing it keeps them alive but not with good nutrients

[thick summit]

yeah it'd be similar to the Acro-Carcha-Giga problem

except they can be unique

Purru and deino would do the exact same thing

[quasi idol]

I think it could be an interesting addition to the game but if you guys are saying it wouldn't be a good addition then who am I to question ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[quasi idol]

I think the only thing I would change would be the habitat maybe

[thick summit]

I am just sharing my opinion

so are you. You think Purrusaurus would be a fine addition which is fine as it's your opinion but I think otherwise

[gritty heart]

I think purro might have worked if deino wasn’t in the game, but unless the isle hyper focused on the aquatic meta I doubt it would have any real notable differences sadly. As it is there isn’t really much of a different play style purro could have without really stretching it.

Would be an awesome choice for a post Dino game

[subtle swan]

Purrusaurus and Deinosuchus would fill an identical Niche in gameplay. Rather they fix Deino than add another large aquatic ambusher.

[quasi idol]

Some people told me that they didn't want the game to have similar dinosaurs, like I met some people who didn't want the Tarbosaurus in the game just because it's similar to the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

[gritty heart]

It’s Kinda like if tarbo got added. It wouldn’t probably do much differently from rex

Speak of the devil xd

[quasi idol]

Yeah

[quasi idol]

Some people have nicknamed the tarbo the Walmart T Rex

Dayuum

[gritty heart]

I remember it from speckles

[thick summit]

T. mcraensis exists

[quasi idol]

Dino King

[gritty heart]

T. McDonaldsis

[quasi idol]

Fr

[thick summit]

it literally is the Walmart Tyrannosaurus

[subtle swan]

T-Rex at home.

[quasi idol]

Some people even said that it would be better to add the hybrid dinosaurs than the Tarbosaurus.

Nahhh

Like Indominus Rex

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

@blissful quartz

Herra isn’t a proper semi aquatic. It is an arboreal that is meant to be semi aquatic enough to eat fish when young and move in the swamps it can spawn in. It’s semi-semi-aquatic. By the time you are fg the fish shouldn’t be your diet anymore

[subtle swan]

Tarbo coould be a more speed focussed version of Rex I guess that could focus on hunting mid-tiers like Maia, rather than it being a Big-Game predator like rex that hunts stuff like Trike and Deinos.

It was lighter, after all.

[quasi idol]

Basically a smaller Rex

[subtle swan]

Yeah make it 5-6 ton, perfect counter to steg.

[gritty heart]

Isn’t Alberto already going to be that? (I could be wrong I really don’t care much about Alberto)

[quasi idol]

Maybe one day The Isle will add tarbo or Puru

[quasi idol]

Roasting Alberto

[gritty heart]

Tarbo and purro would be nice if the isle was set in geographic maps, like an Asia map or South American map etc

[quasi idol]

Crazy

[quasi idol]

Yeah yeah

[gritty heart]

Like you get deinosuchus when playing on the Texas map and purro in the Amazon

[subtle swan]

More mid-tier aquatics for Deino to interact with would be nice.

so it's not just Beipi, herra and then nothing.

[quasi idol]

The Amazon is located in Brazil, right? I don't remember exactly.

[subtle swan]

Yes

[gritty heart]

Yeah, at least mostly

[quasi idol]

Oh

[gritty heart]

I’m not sure off the top of my head it’s exact borders but that’s the right area

[quasi idol]

I have a question for you guys

If you could add a dinosaur to the game, what would it be?

[gritty heart]

Hmm, that’s a tough one. Are we strictly talking dinosaurs or just prehistoric beasts in general?

I’m tryna not say one already confirmed

[quasi idol]

All in general

If the game focused on aquatic dinosaurs I would add the mosasaur

[gritty heart]

I think a plateosaur could be cool. dolichorhynchops is also a favorite prehistoric creature of mine(aquatic)

[quasi idol]

Wow

This is a good one

[blissful quartz]

Thanks for your feedback. I am just struggling to accept only 5-10ft in and half stam is gone for swimming a little. It feels rough every time I dip my little Herre toes in. :p

[subtle swan]

Megalodon if aquatic - not a dino but cool.

[subtle swan]

The issue is that Herra is one of the slowest swimmers - you don't get enough efficiency from the stamina usage.

If it was another 4km/h faster in water it wouldn't feel as punishing.

[gritty heart]

I noticed that when I unfortunately spawned in swamps xd. Basically just a trade off for the tree mobility. When other arboreals get added I could see the swim speed being buffed a bit

[quasi idol]

Guys

I wanted to make a suggestion for a skin for the t rex where can I send my suggestion?

[pliant elm]

#general-feedback

[gritty heart]

I think it would be general. Balance is basically stat/ecosystem balance, while that would be purely cosmetic.

[pine epoch]

They added earth benders now too

last photo was floating trees

They added Turtles, never seen one. But they added earth benders, seen plenty of those

[empty wadi]

hey can we remove the ability of catfish to swallow 10% crocs whole? thanks

[latent olive]

we're getting THE plateosaurus

[latent olive]

nope

[bronze crescent]

is a charging carno faster then a galli?

i guess first thing i should ask is does size change how fast you are?

[limber hull]

it is, unless the galli is using call boost

also galli is the only animal that keeps the same speed regardless of size

[bronze crescent]

is tht when theres multiple?

[limber hull]

yea and they're calling

then they get a huge speed boost

[bronze crescent]

ah well i ran around the whole map pressing 1 doesnt seam like theres any one else lol

but the carno looked at me i started running and i got like thrown up and stunned and 1 tapped as a 70%

what species is it easiest to group on?

[limber hull]

yea carnos can reach speeds of almost 60km/hr while charging

also galli's speed depends on how good its diet is

if you're missing nutrients, you'll be slower

[bronze crescent]

k

[gritty heart]

Galli is just a weirdo

[bronze crescent]

what would u say is the easiest dino to get a group with

[fair jetty]

#general-feedback message @sage grail that's already a thing, when you call a hexagon appears to indicate your volume and the border around it will decrease the more you call. As it gets lower your calls will be raspier, until they're nearly silent.

[gritty heart]

Depends on the server, gotta find people. But basically anything non cannibal and not solitary (so no stegos or herras) and you should be decent.

Omnis are pretty common and like grouping.

[bronze crescent]

k

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message

[limber hull]

the most carnotaurus of all time

[gritty heart]

It wasn’t a cataclysm that killed the dinosaurs, they just all tripped around the same time.

[normal shuttle]

@quasi idol Yeah man, so interesting to have another crocodile with the exact same mechanics but different stats

7000 dollars and 300 hours of work down the drain for the devs so we can get deinosuchus 2.0

[limber hull]

The inclusion of Purussaurus would add even more variety to the aquatic gameplay options. Players could choose between the powerful ambush of the Deinosuchus or the brute strength and size of the Purussaurus.

why would pur not also ambush lmao. you basically just made evrima spino with extra steps

[normal shuttle]

Spino but worse unironically

Because it would have the same constraints as deino

[limber hull]

like im just lost on how deinosuchus also doesn't have brute strength and size

it's an 8 ton gator

genuinely, you're choosing between two things that describe both animals

powerful ambush with brute strength and size

[white elm]

but purussaurus is DIFFERENT... /j

[limber hull]

it's different by name lol

[white elm]

I mean I wouldn't put it past the devs... considering they want to add a seemingly palaeoaccurate-ish carchar

like... why?

[urban flax]

I'm pretty sure this paragraph is AI generated

[hidden crest]

Carnos really want to fly

[white elm]

its like a movie scene

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

thermals

[thick summit]

They can! Sometimes

[hidden crest]

I support their dreams

[thick summit]

Same

[bleak kestrel]

Guys you can suggested dino ideas?

[limber hull]

i mean you CAN but the likelihood of them happening is another story

[urban flax]

People suggested deinocheirus and it worked
Carchar too

[bleak kestrel]

I would love a megaraptor ngl

[urban flax]

Extremely unlikely

[limber hull]

carchar :(

[urban flax]

Quad carchar :)

[bleak kestrel]

Wait so ppl suggest carcar and other ppl wonder why tf carcar is getting added

[white elm]

carchar

[bleak kestrel]

Like i dont get the reson why people wanted carcharo

Like seriously we got giga and acro what carcar gonna do?

[urban flax]

It was mostly a joke
People have already suggested every extinct species known to man, so a species having been suggested before being actually added to the game doesn't mean much

[urban flax]

The same reason people want tarbo, saurophagnax, yutyrannus or purrusaurus
They'r note game designers

[bleak kestrel]

Honestly maip and megaraptor would be dope

[urban flax]

We have plenty enough medium-sized theropods with nothing really standing out already

[white elm]

replace allo with yangchuano

[bleak kestrel]

While tarbo would kidda fit since we dont have middle ground beetween alberto and rex yet i have 0 clue why ppl would want sauropognax

[urban flax]

I have no idea what that is but I know it would be better than allo

[urban flax]

Because allo

[urban flax]

We have sub-adult rex

[bleak kestrel]

I want megaraptor to be able to climb like herra

[white elm]

its basically allo but with smaller arms and a bigger head

its more albert size

[bleak kestrel]

Just less agile on trees

[bleak kestrel]

Well yeah sauro is basicaly bigger alllo

[urban flax]

Ok, that's actually a bit interesting
We really lack on the tree ecosystem
However if it's just bigger herrera it's not really worth it

[urban flax]

It's a sauropod now, which makes it infinitely better

[bleak kestrel]

Nah being able to drag corpses up the tree would be dope

[white elm]

unidentified saurischian*

[urban flax]

That's still just a bigger herrera tho

[bleak kestrel]

I would love a pterosauroid that could fight something like omni in 1v1

[urban flax]

Quetz

[bleak kestrel]

Ouetz will dominate omni

[bleak kestrel]

If it climbs tree doesnt mean it will work the same

[white elm]

don't you do it

[bleak kestrel]

Unlike herra climbing trees its like not only thing it could do maybe fishing and swimming

Jack of all traits

[urban flax]

It will probably be within pin range

[urban flax]

Ti

[white elm]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-scout-fridge-gif-25777785

[urban flax]

So like herrera ?

[bleak kestrel]

Nah quetz will weight 500kg + at least

[bleak kestrel]

No herra isnt really good swimmer

[white elm]

but it swims nonetheless

and fishes

[urban flax]

So it's a bigger and better herrera

[bleak kestrel]

Well mega would do it way better

[bleak kestrel]

No it cant do that jump thingy

Where it one shots something of bigger or same size

If megaraptor would do that it would just die lol

[urban flax]

So what does it do apart from climbing trees and fishing ?

[bleak kestrel]

I mean it does have immunity to fall damage bur not that much

[bleak kestrel]

Can herra drag a corpse up a tree?

Mega will be able to do that

Also it will be actually pretty good in combat

Being stronger than omni

[urban flax]

Dragging a corpse up a tree isn't a niche tbh

[bleak kestrel]

And dilo also

[bleak kestrel]

Still a neat thing

And it will do like a lot of bleed

[urban flax]

I'm getting less and less interested

[bleak kestrel]

I dont know what to add to it something like claw slash is kidda obvious

Climbing and being good swimmer seems like cool stuff to me ngl

Having another dino that can climb is neat

[urban flax]

Every playable added has to fill a niche
If all it does is "be that but with different stats and one extra gimmick" it's not filling a niche, it's just there

[urban flax]

Quad carchar

[white elm]

quad carchar shouldn't climb, it should MANTLE

[urban flax]

I didn't know mantle could be used as a verb and I have no idea what it means

[white elm]

I only want this hypothetical quad carchar climbing over things its height

https://frictionlabs.com/blog/how-it-works-the-mantle

[urban flax]

I want it to scale up cliffs and buildings like the edgy JP monster that it is

[novel yacht]

Hosting unofficial server and should have the option de edit groupe limits and a on or off on limits for HC servers.

[normal shuttle]

Carchar would be a better giga

I hate giga fans, they’re like “oh look giganotosaurus was the cooler and bigger T. rex that will take the spotlight when people know about it! Rawrie!”

Giga is lame

#general-feedback message as lame as this take

@late flame care to elaborate?

if it is the stamina regen I will crash out

[bleak kestrel]

Giga is basiclay way diffrent than rex

[normal shuttle]

I know

[bleak kestrel]

Rex prob takes the win in 1v1

[normal shuttle]

I was mostly slandering

I have nothing against an animal adapted to its environment

But either way, rex gang unless we are talking about dominion joker giga

[white elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1343870124997869568/biggest.gif

[normal shuttle]

The fact they did say that, and not only once, made me cringe so hard

😭 😭 😭 only outdated dinosaur books say that

Also “biggest carnivore” strictly is laughable

[white elm]

the humble Balaenoptera musculus:

[normal shuttle]

I guess it doesn’t exist

Or invertebrates are actually plants

[white elm]

plant gameplay

[normal shuttle]

🔥

[bleak kestrel]

Hmmm so megaraptor would fill a niche as medium sized carni size of a dilo/cera but pretty light for its size.

Being able to climb would be very good in combat and basicaly any ambush hunter that can eathier hunt on land or in water.

Being able to ambush beipis and even chase them down a bit in water but isnt as fast as them in water.

Also it has decent vision at night.

Its mainly hunts smaller stuff like beipi,galli,dryo.

Also it can do sort of ambush lunge where it speeds up a lot and does slash with his claws and bite with his jaws.

[normal shuttle]

@pliant elm how is dilo unplayable?

Wait…😨

Do you actually think that DILO is fine in the hordetest and we should get that in the actual live branch?

Never suggest anything regarding balance again

[white elm]

I love dilo

single most overpowered creature in the game

[normal shuttle]

Me looking how they turned my scary night stalker that required actual skill to take on bigger stuff solo into a bite once, run off and deal 1300 damage from afar simulator

[bleak kestrel]

I mean its abillity got buffed from what i heard

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stare-gif-26332648

[urban flax]

Oh so yet another mid-sized theropod ambush hunter
Great

[bleak kestrel]

Where his clones actually do a lot more

[white elm]

[bleak kestrel]

What tf im supposed to do

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message ohhh hehehe

[bleak kestrel]

Marathon hunter is bad idea

For something like this

[urban flax]

I just think megaraptor isn't that good of an addition to the roster because it's extremely to not make it either boring, a copy of another existing dino or some raptor power fantasy

[normal shuttle]

They butchered my main so hard. I won’t forgive devs for this unless they rework dilo

I was super hyped for dilo when it first showed up in the roadmap and they made it into something I actually despise whenever I see one running around, let alone being forced to fight one

[white elm]

I hope dilo's clones are just completely redone

[urban flax]

If you want something that has cool claws, good combat abilities and the ability to fish and swim there's bary

[bleak kestrel]

It wont be a pack hunter.

It will be semi aquatic in some way and can explore mutiple ways to play it

[thick summit]

try "/unstuck" next time

[urban flax]

If you want a powerful ambush hunter who can claw its prey there's allo

If you can something that can brawl and tackle big prey there's both alberto and utah (not omni)

[normal shuttle]

If they don’t rework it I will just crash out so hard in balance feedback

[thick summit]

We already have tons of interesting animals in the roster

[urban flax]

And cera ofc

[bleak kestrel]

It wont be powerful its hunting only small stuff or smaller than him at least but the lunge could have some debuff like stam drain or some

[urban flax]

Then we already have both carno and allo who do that

[bleak kestrel]

Eh nvm i just do something diffrent

[heady geode]

You should play it right now before horde test fix is pushed, no clones, just night dilo that requires skill

[normal shuttle]

I have played it and it is not skillful either

Clones are very much rng and a possibility is they obliterate everyone in their path

Like I did donde. I ambushed an omni family on the open at night. The next morning I just found 2/3 corpses after I hit them 2-3 times at most and just spammed rmb

Dilo is soooo garbage in terms of design rn and it feels almost insulting after my +300 hours in legacy with it

Either intensive rework or delete it from the game unironically

[heady geode]

what I meant that Right Now, clones are broke, peak legacy dilo hours, they either don’t show up at all, don’t do damage, or you can’t even trigger the venom, horde test has a fix for it so play quick

[woeful latch]

same

[normal shuttle]

Nah I don’t like current patch dilo

There’s a chance it just win for you or they they’re useless

Both are unsatisfying options

I hate dilo rn. Buggy and sometimes rampant crutch

<@&933486433342222376>

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message HUMAN LOOKING? when did you last time see a human?

[thick summit]

They're right though

It looks very human like

[woeful latch]

they don’t look human tho, am i crazy?

[thick summit]

It has a visible sclera

[frank tapir]

maybe they have human dna

[bleak kestrel]

Guys is there floods ingame?

[late flame]

No it’s not that lol I do think the stamina is definitely manageable. however I feel there’s not much a ptera can do to defend itself in many situations other than just fly away, and it’s not even that great at hunting what it’s meant to be hunting, I’m not sure if a damage increase would be the best solution but a even a small one surly wouldn’t make it an apex predator, just enough to feel like a real threat to the smaller dinosaurs around. Maybe it’s just a skill issue lol but I would like to be at least a little less cautious as a fully grown Dino bird

[frank tapir]

it's getting reworked in the next update anyway, which could include damage changes

[frank tapir]

no

[bleak kestrel]

Were there?

[frank tapir]

nope

[bleak kestrel]

Imagine if they added those ngl

Like water level being lower or higher

[frank tapir]

droughts are currently planned, but they've said they don't plan on doing floods

[bleak kestrel]

What if tropeognathus

Basiclay bigger pterosauroid that would be way slower flyer but more capable of fighting land dinos

[normal shuttle]

Ptera but bigger?

[bleak kestrel]

In some way yeah

[normal shuttle]

Bad then

[bleak kestrel]

I mean it could have some special mechanics

[normal shuttle]

Also we are getting quetz to threaten not so large land creatures

[bleak kestrel]

Quecl is like 500kg+ at least im talking 120 at maximum

[normal shuttle]

It’s funny because tropeo would have been a better skimmer than ptera and it has always been known as a coastal pterosaur

So making it something else would be like turning bary into a mainland predator

[normal shuttle]

Not at all. Quetz is 200-250

[bleak kestrel]

Oh

Wait how tf

[normal shuttle]

Pterosaurs are super lightweight

They didn’t have the same chest muscles as birds to flap continuously or with a lot of strength

So they had to be extremely light

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah but i thought quecl is like 400 kg at least

[normal shuttle]

Hence why ptera is the size of an agile human and it weighs like 40kg

[bleak kestrel]

Like this thing is HUGE

[normal shuttle]

Nah 250

That’s around the highest estimates

Could see isle one being 300 but that’s about it

[frank tapir]

devs can do what they want tho (please)

[bleak kestrel]

How much herra wieght ingame

[bleak kestrel]

Oh yeah also that

[normal shuttle]

Why would quetz need to be larger than an omni though

[frank tapir]

so it doesn't get pinned by a solo omni

[normal shuttle]

It could still punch above its weight class

[normal shuttle]

Flying exists tho

[bleak kestrel]

Found the size comprsion thingy of the isle and its said to be 500 kg

[normal shuttle]

175

[urban flax]

It's unofficial

[normal shuttle]

They downsized it

[normal shuttle]

^

[bleak kestrel]

Oh

[frank tapir]

instantly losing a probably 4-6 hour growth to a 2 hour would suck absolute ass

[bleak kestrel]

Anyway i think we should get semi aquatic pterosauroid

[normal shuttle]

No one said quetz is gonna have apex growth

[bleak kestrel]

Would be nice

[normal shuttle]

Ptera (sort of)

[woven bane]

an omni pinning a quetz would look silly asf considering the size difference

[bleak kestrel]

Isnt troodon faster in water?

[normal shuttle]

Ptera is getting reworked and balance can change anyway

[normal shuttle]

Volume ain’t really the same as mass. In all honesty a dilo being able to move with an omni latched looks a bit dumb already

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah it is

But trying to fix it would prob make it twice as bad

[frank tapir]

giving it a short growth time with high damage would be kinda unfair and giving it low damage would suck

[normal shuttle]

Like imagine being able to run at a speed anywhere close to your top sprinting one with 65% of your weight hanging from one side

[woven bane]

i know