general-feedback-discussion

[untold lava]

i think that teno should have the upper hand against a cera but ive seen a fg cera full health get stunned once and get tail slammed to death in just 3 seconds

[tight iron]

but if you don't herd up or group up you're taking a big risk

[mental pulsar]

no, but it creates balance issues when tenontos dont even need to herd to be OP

[tight iron]

tenos are not op

[mental pulsar]

no, tenonto is OP af solo

[tight iron]

no it's not ive soloed many tenos as a raptor

either im in the top 5 best raptor players the tenos were the worst ever to exist or it's actually balanced

[mental pulsar]

ive destroyed raptor, cera, and carno packs as tenonto. its honestly disgusting

[tight iron]

okay tell me something

[mental pulsar]

most teno players have a brain the size of a teaspoon

[tight iron]

have you ever fought a good cera as a teno

one that alone could easily kill you

because by the looks of it you never have

[mental pulsar]

sweaty af? sliding around like a japanese drif car? spamming charge bite on my head/ yup

[tight iron]

tenos are not op, they are meant to be somewhat complicated to fight

they are innate fighters

so put a scavenger to fight one

die and then call teno op

[mental pulsar]

they are meant to be complicated to play as and perform well as, and they are the easiest thing to play

[hidden mist]

Yep, teno is basically designed to be a brawler and fend off the creatures of the same size.

[tight iron]

they are not the easiest thing to play

[mental pulsar]

and its able to take on packs of those same size carnivores solo

[tight iron]

severe carnivore skill issue

[mental pulsar]

i dont see how this is confusing

[tight iron]

chronical at this point

a teno killing 2 ceras is insane

the teno is very skilled and the ceras suck

[mental pulsar]

i hate to bust your bubble but the isle is not a hypercompetitive fighting game that requires skill

its a survival game

that focuses on realism

[tight iron]

it actually is 💀

[hidden mist]

And survival requires skills and a knowledge of a matchup.

[tight iron]

like genuinely in its current state it is

it's not meant to be that but players do it regardless

[mental pulsar]

if you think the isle is hard you clarly are bad at playing video games

[tight iron]

hmm i wonder when ive said that

[mental pulsar]

the isle is not hard, you just have to be patient and hope your oponent is dumber than you

if you use your brain for 2 seconds instead of acting on impulse the game should be easy. but tenonto is one of the only dinos that are ridiculously difficult to fight and it really shouldnt be that way

[tight iron]

it is meant to be that way

[sage geode]

Killing something that took hours to grow should not be easy

[tight iron]

herbis are meant to be better than same size carnis

[mental pulsar]

and yet it is

[tight iron]

why? idk ask the devs

herbi is playing on easy mode

carni is playing on hard mode

[sage geode]

Both are hard

[mental pulsar]

um, no. because herbivores have herding, and only some carnivores should be pack hunting (just take a look at pack limits for carnis vs herbis)

[tight iron]

brother im saying the most basic thing about the isle rn

herbi is easy mode, carni is hard mode

and it is intended to be that way

[mental pulsar]

herbivores as a whole are ridiculously easy to play (because most are OP) and can fight carnivores the same size or bigger with little to no issue

[tight iron]

and that is the way it's supposed to be

[mental pulsar]

carnivores should dominate combat, and they dont

[tight iron]

no

[mental pulsar]

no, do you know anything of how a real ecosystem works?!

[tight iron]

because then herbis are eat grass and die useless waste of time

[tight iron]

you clearly don't

[mental pulsar]

carnivores hunt herbis

[tight iron]

carnis don't dominate combat irl

[mental pulsar]

herbis do not, and should not hunt carnis

[tight iron]

herbis are superior but carnis have strategy and intelligence

[mental pulsar]

my brother in christ

[tight iron]

they in fact do that irl

[mental pulsar]

very few do

[hidden mist]

Most carnivores hunt things smaller than themselves, though.

[tight iron]

all do

[hidden mist]

And take bigger things only in packs.

[sage geode]

Lions hunt wilder beast

[mental pulsar]

(carnotaurus and tenontosaurus)

[tight iron]

if they get a chance to they'll absolutely kill it

[mental pulsar]

tenontos are smaller than carnos

and yet carnos get melted in combat

[tight iron]

carnos are made to suck against tenos

[mental pulsar]

your arguments are not holding up

[tight iron]

bigger doesn't mean better

[mental pulsar]

well they shouldnt considering tenonto is a pseudo mid tier

[tight iron]

haven't even said an argument yet just basic the isle facts

[hidden mist]

If they don’t know how to use their instant acceleration and high tap ram damage. Also carno should be a small game hunter.

[tight iron]

carnos hunt below 500kg

[mental pulsar]

bigger is absolutely better in the isle. stegos and deinos are OP

[tight iron]

not 1500kg

[mental pulsar]

carno gets stunend if it tries to ram a tenonto -.-

[tight iron]

cause not supposed to even take a teno

[mental pulsar]

"grr! small game hunter! carno needs to be realistic!"

well guess what?

[hidden mist]

Ram the head, what’s the problem? Just drift around a teno. Come close then stop, it uses tail slam most of the time and you bite when they are stuck in the animation.

[tight iron]

chicken butt

[mental pulsar]

real life tenonto got memed on by deinonychus

[tight iron]

yeah that's a fact 💀

[sage geode]

xD

[tight iron]

real life teno didn't fight carnos

[mental pulsar]

real life tenonto was virtually defenseless

[tight iron]

and real life teno isn't the isle teno

[mental pulsar]

real life tenonto didnt fight ceratos, whats your point?

[tight iron]

big difference

[mental pulsar]

and real life carnoi isnt the isle carno

[tight iron]

well what is yours 💀

[tight iron]

then why you complaining about real life teno???

[mental pulsar]

mine is that carno should be fun and balanced to play, and so should teno

[tight iron]

i wish that was the case

[sage geode]

Guys listen I think that it should be a well matched up fight and yes I think that the carno needs to be buffed I mean solo omni had better chance against temp

[mental pulsar]

because most people whine about carno being the small game hunter

yeah exactly

[tight iron]

what

[mental pulsar]

buff carno and im chill

[tight iron]

but it is a small game hunter???

[sage geode]

Is that fun tho

[mental pulsar]

not in the isle tho

[tight iron]

i find it fun

[hidden mist]

Well how is that “fun and balanced” for the teno to get slaughtered by* a carno from which you can’t even run away?

[mental pulsar]

its an ambush predator

[tight iron]

brother every dev has said it is one

it's being reworked to be even a better small game hunter

[mental pulsar]

funny, i never said that teno should get rinsed by carno

[tight iron]

i know it is

[mental pulsar]

i said they should be equals

[sage geode]

Is that fun tho the isles biggest problem is that it scarifies fun for realism ur like a dev on an ult account xD

[mental pulsar]

and lil bro got so mad

[tight iron]

im not a dev on an akt

i don't support most of their decisions

you can see in general feedbaxln

[mental pulsar]

bro i just want carno and teno to be balanced like back in the day

[sage geode]

^^

[mental pulsar]

and mr teno simp doesnt want his main to be fair because he's BAD

[tight iron]

i don't even play herbis

[sage geode]

U do don’t lie

[tight iron]

i hate them

[hidden mist]

So it should be equal for a carno of 1800 kgs, but 30/70 for a cera of 1300 kgs?

[tight iron]

we getting into personal insults now wooo

[mental pulsar]

then quit supporting them being abvle to take on something so much bigger than it

[tight iron]

migrations are the worst idea ever why the hell would i play herbi

there's nothing good about herbis

[mental pulsar]

like he said, carno should mostly be hnting lil guys

[sage geode]

Oh no

[mental pulsar]

but he shouldnt be relegated to that

[tight iron]

am i supporting it tho

[mental pulsar]

it limits gameplay and is unfun

[tight iron]

i havent even said my stance o this

the only thing ive said is repeating what devs have said in the past

but wooo im a teno main a teno simp and more

[mental pulsar]

your entire argument has been that tenonto is fine where it is, and maybe thats so.... if other carnis get certain buffs to actually deal with it

[tight iron]

alr let's be real bro

you want things that aren't meant to fight it to go ahead and melt it

[mental pulsar]

well this is why everyone says you're a dev on an alt

[sage geode]

1v1 in brawl stars to settle things

[tight iron]

nobody says that

[mental pulsar]

LMAO

[sage geode]

Hahahahaha

[cyan flame]

Carno just need to be better at hunting small game, and teno is quite large, so maybe not the ideal solo hunt for one. As for cera, it's mainly a scavenger, not a very good hunter, so there is that.

[tight iron]

gateway needs big tweaks stamina sucks balance sucks diets kinda suck growth times suck small tiers suck

what else do you need

[mental pulsar]

in that case tenonto would have no counter

[sage geode]

No Edgar it spike allowed in the duel

[hidden mist]

Basically, if your argument is that something bigger should destroy something smaller, then teno should be able to destroy a cera in 1v1. And so a carno. But that’s not interesting for both parties.

[tight iron]

an official message signed by the government to prove that im not a dev on an alt?

[mental pulsar]

other than raptor packs which arent hard to fight as teno if you have a brain

[cyan flame]

It does, troodon, omni, deino, might be some herbis that can take it too

[mental pulsar]

troodon is useless my guy

and deino is so easy to avoid

[sage geode]

Dieno is my main ngl

[tight iron]

alr wait when have troodons done anything against tenos

[cyan flame]

Troodon is not useless no, and sure, you can avoid deino, but teno is more liable than most to go swimming due to being better at it at least

[mental pulsar]

now before i vomit on my screen might i ask... why you main deino?....

deino is fat

[hidden mist]

Spiro

[mental pulsar]

and smelly

[sage geode]

Dieno has nice small legs

[tight iron]

i mean yeah but im talking about rn

[sage geode]

And is perfect dino for killing babies

[mental pulsar]

ok thats true

killing babies is fun

[sage geode]

Baby dienos that is

[mental pulsar]

oh thats even more fun

[sage geode]

Herra is pretty good as well

[hidden mist]

Rn, dunno. I still believe that a troo pack of 4 can take down a teno, but I’ve never seen it due to troo’s popularity.

[mental pulsar]

aight, ima dip. also herra is the GOAT

[sage geode]

Yup herra is so fun

[tight iron]

i thought you needed at least 15 troodons to take on a tnek

[tight iron]

alr cya man have a nice one

[sage geode]

No no no u need 30 at least

[mental pulsar]

you too bro

[tight iron]

are you sure it's not 900

[hidden mist]

Actually scientists proved that 666 troos needed.

[tight iron]

99 troodons vs 1 hatchling hypsi who wins

obviously hatchling hypsi

[hidden mist]

No, its parents who got free food.

[tight iron]

700 troodons vs grass

[hidden mist]

Unbeatable.

[tight iron]

grass wins

700 troodons vs random ass cliff 💀

cliffs got a kdr of 100000 0

[sage geode]

Actually dryo can kill around 3,0161827282883828182883829298384838288283737372872737 troodons

At that point the dryo gets bored and leaves

[sudden tapir]

@hearty sphinx I agree with the idea of reducing or removing the cannibalistic mutation, but I completely disagree with the reasoning.

[mental pulsar]

so i hate to bring this back up.... but i had another full grown cerato on another server and a group of tenontos chased me down and killed me...

[hearty sphinx]

Why is that?

[mental pulsar]

you cant make this stuff up

they kept pace with me the whole time bro 💀

[sudden tapir]

Removing the cannibalistic mutation would be a good idea for some creatures, as they most certainly do not need food supplies to be made easier for them, and permitting them to gain value from a corpse that they otherwise shouldn't, or have easy access to, is not good for the overall survival difficulty of the game.

For instance, Omniraptor shouldn't be able to get the cannibalism mutation because it would then be able to easily benefit from fallen group members, and additionally, they have the ability to get a guaranteed kill on another Omni via pounce, which makes it then too easy to survive.

However, for some creatures like Carno, it could easily just be reduced to give food, but not diet, and the mutation would then be perfectly fine.

But removing a mechanic because it "promotes toxicity" is not a very good reason.

This is a hardcore survival game, you should not be expecting others to treat you kindly, or rather, not kill you, so the cannibalistic mutation promoting players to hunt each other, is not a bad thing.

[hearty sphinx]

My main reason was for omni, yes. Not great when you come across someone that just has to hold rmb to kill you. It's just crap. But in my personal opinion I've never agreed with cannibalism. You should be able to trust your own species.

[winter oyster]

#general-feedback message

@sinful vessel Well I guess it’s a damn shame that the 2D concept artist is working independently from the programmers and server maintainers right? They should be taking a break from their own job and work on the servers too

[wooden agate]

clearly the 2D concept artist should learn get a degree in computer science and learn to code for this game!!!

[winter oyster]

SO TRUE

[rough wind]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-segura-bikes-gif-10901906

[sinful vessel]

ate that up 🥺 🤘

[limber hull]

what does that mean lol

[sinful vessel]

ate that up = uhh spitting facts i suppose? Best way I can explain it :P

[floral sundial]

has anyone else been having issues with the troodon pounce?

[latent olive]

sounds llike threw out bait

[lime solar]

@gloomy breach I understood what you said in Phase three requests, but Allosaurus is too heavy to be able to do this type of mechanic (I think), but it was a great idea

@final lotus I liked your idea of Albinism and Melanism, congratulations, I just think it would make some colors unusable when generating skin or something, but it was an interesting idea

[final lotus]

Using the example of albinos:
Most likely albinos will nest with other albinos to increase the chance of albino babies and eventually after a while all servers will be 90% albino.
Of course it can be done so that albinos cannot nest with other albinos or that no more than 30% of the color is transmitted from albinos to babies.

If there was a desire, I think developers could find a solution. But I don't think the developers will bother with the mechanics of albinism and the melanism

[unique mirage]

i somehow doubt that albinos would have a high enough survival rate to fill a whole server

[final lotus]

Albinos:

[boreal vessel]

@urban flax @limber hull why are you against discord moderators having ingame powers that can prevent hackers and ensure fair gameplay??

[limber hull]

you have no idea how isle admins actually work do you lol

[boreal vessel]

Oh god let me hear this 🙌🏼

Please elaborate big dog…

[limber hull]

TL;DR

admin = all powers

so they can ban everyone, kill anyone's dinos instantly, change day/night, ungrow your dino, remove all your food/water, heal themselves at will, wallhack you, teleport anywhere on the map, etc

[boreal vessel]

You can set privileges for administrators and the development team can implement their own administrative OOC order of command

Chain of command… whatever.

My point is 🙌🏼 allow discord moderators the ability to step in and administrate hackers if official admins aren’t able to 🙌🏼

[limber hull]

that's not how it works atm, and even if it WERE a thing, discord mods are kinda there to be discord mods lol, not also be kinda roped into being server admins

it's a different ballgame entirely

[boreal vessel]

But that’s not what I’m saying lol. I’m saying to change it.

Change it for the better. Period. Allow discord moderators… in game moderator abilities 🙌🏼 same as in Garry’s mod, half life games, etc

IYKYK

[limber hull]

garry's mod doesn't have "official servers" that are the face of the entire game lol, it's still a different ballgame. If this were like Garry's Mod, there'd be no officials, only communities

[boreal vessel]

Stop taking what I say to literally and listen to the big picture which is that this game and administrative team can learn from games that have fair servers and players for the last 15+ years lol

Hackers are way out of control… we need more administration and moderation. Period.

They can big brain and think of the way to make it happen. I’m putting that word in their ear . If you’d rather our servers and hordetesting continue to be overrun by hackers then aye we all see where you stand 🙌🏼

[limber hull]

In order to add that, you'd literally need to give every discord moderator wallhacks and crossmap teleports, then tell them "don't be naughty haha"

[barren zephyr]

I should really change my pfp

[boreal vessel]

And if a senior admin or head admin or super admin see that other admins are abusing their powers what would happen… then they would lose them xD

We need more moderation to protect this beloved fake

Game * I’m not here to pick and choose how they do it… but it needs to be done somehow

[limber hull]

So... you add more work to the OSAs, who you say aren't doing enough, by forcing them to not only moderate the hackers, but also babysit a bunch of "lesser admins" who aren't actually OSAs, but just discord mods who have a completely different set of responsibilities?

[boreal vessel]

😂😂😂😂

[barren zephyr]

What’s funny

[boreal vessel]

Lmfao your arguments are so childish and hilarious man.

Balance the work load

[limber hull]

While also setting forth the expectation that anyone who applies to be a discord mod also is applying to be an official server mod, while also saying "don't be naughty with this power we give them"

[boreal vessel]

Give some of the OSA workload over to discord moderators. Which I’m sure would gladly assist in game as needed if they could

Create a bigger COC for the administration team by doing so.

Simple… seems like you’d rather see hackers continue to overrun our community

[limber hull]

No

[boreal vessel]

Yes. Nothing is wrong with creating a bigger administrative team and allowing discord moderators ingame privileges to help combat cheaters.

[limber hull]

I'd rather not see mod incompetence due to be untrained and untrusted, take up another priority of the OSAs, and see the hackers have to become something to balance, not to focus on

[limber hull]

I'm fine with a bigger OSA team

All discord mods can become OSAs, that's already a thing

[boreal vessel]

That is a wild assumption and minor worry… considering they are already trusted members within this community….

[limber hull]

They actually have to do the training stuff first

[limber hull]

No they ain't, they're just dudes who applied on the discord to be a mod, they're by no means trusted enough to secure the game

[boreal vessel]

I understand that. I have applied over a year ago lol. But regardless, we need more moderation and a way to prevent hackers to roam so easily for hours and days on end

You can’t become a isle discord moderator easily 😂😂

[limber hull]

That's why they have a trial period, because of not instantly trusting them

There's a whole trust heirachy thing going on here

[boreal vessel]

All administrator teams have trial mod roles… obviously earned and trusted members may be granted that privilege to intervene IF no OSA are available.

Just to help the good players out

[valid delta]

Nothing better than watching a long chat argument when one side is clearly not understanding the other. Lol

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gif-5123331850448605417

#general-feedback message

@sudden ridge My friend, you need to graze on grass to keep yourself alive in that case. Unless you're a carnivore, in which case, the migration zone is not guaranteed food, just a place you might find some players in.

[boreal vessel]

What I’m saying is simple and really easy to comprehend 🙌🏼 whatever the development team and administration team has to do… to increase the amount of admins that can prevent hackers in game… they need to do it rather fast. As opposed to letting hackers ruin the game for everyone else 🙌🏼

Now how they do it? That’s up to them. But it needs to be done

[indigo gulch]

what are the hands for?

[boreal vessel]

What is this question for?

[indigo gulch]

curiousity?

[boreal vessel]

🙌🏼

[indigo gulch]

okay so what are they for?

[boreal vessel]

For you my dude.

[indigo gulch]

🤨

god forbid I ask a genuine question, I guess?

[boreal vessel]

And god forbid I bring up a reasonable suggestion that our game needs urgently to prevent hackers 🙌🏼 only to be asked “ what is that emoji for.?” lol

[indigo gulch]

they aren't mutually exclusive mate.

[boreal vessel]

The emoji should be the least of your concern mate.

[indigo gulch]

I'm just genuinely wondering what you mean with it to read the statement better but I guess that's not allowed and automatically makes me against your point?

whatever I guess

[boreal vessel]

I didn’t post the suggestion for irrelevant and meaningless comments…. Sorry if your feelings are hurt…but this conversation is now irrelevant to me as well lol. Have a wonderful day and I hope that hackers do not ruin or continue to ruin your experience due to a lack of proper administrative members.

[indigo gulch]

[latent olive]

pretty sure the dude is just lone-hero-complexing right now

against the world and everyone’s against him

[boreal vessel]

😂😂😂

Wowww the opinions and comments from sheep are hilarious keep it coming please… @latent olive

[latent olive]

[boreal vessel]

You cared enough to comment 😂😂😂 man you’re funny.

[indigo gulch]

asking....a genuine question out of curiousity makes me a sheep? The heck? That's not even what it means to be a sheep.

[boreal vessel]

No one was talking to you 🙌🏼

I think I might be arguing with hacker Alts idk

[limber hull]

jesus you're still on about this lmao

[indigo gulch]

[valid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-eating-popcorn-akademiks-gif-4852066732879832234

[indigo gulch]

this all started with me just asking what the hands are for

[boreal briar]

@boreal vessel lol, I don't think $20 counts as "Top Dollar"

[boreal vessel]

[limber hull]

one of our many modern mysteries

[limber hull]

nowadays, that's like, a 6th of a big-name AAA game lol

[indigo gulch]

I was genuinely curious

[boreal vessel]

You guys are more worried about my use of emojis rather then the hacking problem 😂😂😂🙌🏼

I must be talking to legit children lol

[indigo gulch]

^

[boreal vessel]

Yeah definitely talking to ppl in their mom’s basement right now. Worried about emojis not the hacking problem 😂😂😂🙌🏼

[indigo gulch]

not worried, CURIOUS

[latent olive]

@final lotus I hate to tell you this, but albinism usually results in the albino animal being killed early on

[valid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gossip-listening-suspense-drama-gif-13117366258359790345

[boreal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-spongebob-watching-eating-popcorn-binge-watching-gif-4713512

[latent olive]

melanism, I don’t know too well

[boreal briar]

Oh yeah, albinism would be awful to have happen, but bit would still look cool

[valid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[latent olive]

just that hatching from a nest and then being the one unlucky person to suffer a bright white skin would suck

[boreal briar]

If you weren't one of the few people wanting it for the rarity, yeah

[indigo gulch]

its the opposite of albinism, so its a rare mutation where you turn black instead of white with Albinism

[boreal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-21939012

[latent olive]

Yeah I am aware of that, just not the survival chances

[valid delta]

It would unless you have a good attitude about it. Could also be a lot of fun to have a random challenge like that. 🙂

[indigo gulch]

pretty alright, depending on the animal

[latent olive]

Considering all black would help it survive better

[boreal vessel]

So my point still stands

We need more moderators to combat hackers and cheaters in the game 🙌🏼

[boreal briar]

Depends where it lives. Also, it could alienate it from others of its kind that are expecting a specific colour pattern

[latent olive]

yes I’m sure being the last egg in a nest, only to find you’re completely blinding at night time would induce a positive attitude

[wooden agate]

i would jump off a cliff at the soonest available time

[indigo gulch]

fair xD

[limber hull]

I mean... skins are random from parents, regardless.

[valid delta]

It's not about the attitude it gives you, it's about your own personal attitude towards the game in the first place.

[boreal vessel]

If we can ensure more moderators and admins the abilities to combat the hackers im sure it would create a more fair and fun plying environment for all of us.

[limber hull]

You might well recieve sky-blue stego

[latent olive]

what

[boreal vessel]

But if we continue to ignore the facts… and allow hackers to rule, I’m sure the game will lose a good player base.

[limber hull]

When the potential to create bright white skins already exists

[latent olive]

but at least it isn’t forced flashbang skin

[limber hull]

I mean... It can be

[latent olive]

[valid delta]

If you play the game for fun, and aren't taking a life overly serious to begin with, I.E. your attitude coming into the game, then the challenge would be fun.

[limber hull]

Like, you joining a nest is very much accepting you might get stuck with "whatever" skin

[wooden agate]

i think sky-blue on stego is.. something

[boreal briar]

Yeah your parents could have taken all white skins lol

[latent olive]

which would suck too

[boreal vessel]

So with that being said🙌🏼 let’s give discord moderators the ability to have minor in game privileges to freeze or temporarily ban hackers until they can conduct a good investigation

[indigo gulch]

true, but getting that challenge randomly thrown onto you isn't particularly fun. If you could choose it, sure

[valid delta]

If you put too much of your own self into the survival of your video game dinosaur, then yes, I could see it being frustrating.

[boreal briar]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-tom-hardy-uhh-thats-bait-point-mad-max-gif-15591117

[boreal vessel]

I think you’re a hacker on a alt account 😂😂

[limber hull]

While I think he has a point on it not being great to be stuck as the shiny bastard, I do think nesting inherently implies "you might get whatever skin", and you're kinda expected to roll with the punches

[valid delta]

To me, one that comes randomly is more fun than one you have to choose. Personal preference.

[indigo gulch]

oh yeah, that actor!

[boreal briar]

And I think you really want attention right now. Go get a hug

[indigo gulch]

that's fair. But imagine nesting in just wanting to chill and you just got a difficulty spike

[latent olive]

if no one got me, I know my alternate account got me 💪💪💪

[boreal vessel]

I’m good brother. 🙌🏼 a Oreo would be better lol

[wooden agate]

you are just me but worse

[boreal briar]

True, sometimes when I nest it's for hanging out. So boring sometimes lol

[latent olive]

we could be three

[limber hull]

I personally think the rarity of albinos would make them honestly more fun to play, if its a very rare kind of skin that you'd basically have bragging rights for having

[valid delta]

👆

[limber hull]

ya think lol

[boreal briar]

And for surviving in lmao

[limber hull]

like... skins are already a grab-bag of if you're getting the least viable colours known to man

[latent olive]

I do like the idea of shifting into an albino skin by doing a bunch of the cannibalism or something

[boreal briar]

They kept trying to drag us off the skin topic lol

[valid delta]

That's not how albinism works though...

[boreal briar]

Aside from the fact that people would try to do that for the skin... it would be a good visual indicator not to trust them

[latent olive]

boy, you are NOT gonna like how the rest of the game “works”

[limber hull]

i do like that, but the idea of unique skins only acquired by a rare genetic mutation on nesting is such a unique "unicorn" scenario

[boreal vessel]

Our game lacks administrator numbers. Too many servers and not enough admins / moderators that can do anything about it. When we need more help combatting hackers… and y’all are in here talking about skins as if that matters at all 😂😂😂

[latent olive]

mods, reveal upon this man the gravity of the isle’s situation regarding playable species

[limber hull]

fish react this man

[boreal briar]

I think Day Z had a "Good" skin and a "Bad" skin

[boreal vessel]

“ hey i think skins are more important than having a fair game expeeience” I sound important talking about skins when we can’t even grow a Dino without getting killed by speed hackers 😂😂😂🙌🏼

[boreal briar]

It would be cool to have a kinda karma system but lord knows how it would work

[valid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-popcorn-3d-glasses-watching-eating-gif-17602628

[limber hull]

karma is inherently already in a grey area

[boreal briar]

Yeah, all sorts of ways it could go wrong and get abused

[limber hull]

it just doesnt sound fun to engage with

[latent olive]

reincarnate as a psittacosaurus 🙏

[limber hull]

LMAO

[indigo gulch]

Brother you’re not the first to suggest this nor will you be the last. The “we need more admins” statement is so obvious that there is no need to reply to you, because you are just putting something on repeat

[boreal briar]

Lmao

[limber hull]

KARMA IMPACTING REINCARNATIONS sounds so funny

[latent olive]

you’re biting the hook

[boreal briar]

Get stuck as a compie for a few lives

[limber hull]

"Your life of sin has forced you to respawn as juvi boar AI"

[indigo gulch]

[valid delta]

Congratulations, you're a hypsi for the next 78 lives.

[boreal vessel]

I believe fairly, if we push to have them grow the team, they eventually will. Can’t happen overnight of course

[limber hull]

If it's climbing hypsi, that's a reward

[latent olive]

THE THOUSAND LIFE CONTRACT IS REAL

[boreal briar]

Arguable worse than the compie

[valid delta]

Haha... it is not.

[limber hull]

God I wanna play tree hypsi so bad

[limber hull]

For me? Dear GOD I wanna play tree hypsi, sounds so fun

[boreal briar]

"I think if I annoy someone enough they will give me what I want"

Damn it he's got good bait

[valid delta]

That would be the best version of hypsi. Already looks like a squirrel.

[boreal briar]

Tastes like Teen Spirit

[boreal vessel]

This is bait bro… lol…

[limber hull]

It effectively is The Isle squirrel

[valid delta]

Ground squirrel. Lol

[limber hull]

Well, I'm hoping it gets the squirrels uncanny ability to survive any fall

[boreal briar]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-bait-take-the-gif-18874898

[valid delta]

Would be a good use for the feathers. 🙂

[boreal briar]

Speaking of feathers.. is Oviraptor confirmed to have feathers?

[boreal vessel]

When the baiters accuse you of … baiting… weird energy bro

[valid delta]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-baitin-go-away-gif-18877706

[boreal briar]

Nono, it's when the fish becomes the fisherman.

[limber hull]

It has a whole-ass model with feathers

It's very cool

[boreal briar]

10/10 movie by the by

[valid delta]

Love that movie. But scary how accurate it is becoming. Haha

[indigo gulch]

Which movie

[boreal briar]

I hate that I can't say the other word for crap. I said Oh Shizz dude to that. It's a wicked looking Dino!

[boreal briar]

Idiocracy

[boreal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/clutch-1v5-sweat-gaming-video-game-gif-5412025

[boreal briar]

A hooker and a... soldier(?) Go into the future. Everyone there is dumb because of how stupid people always have so many kids

[boreal vessel]

Chinese Alts…

[boreal briar]

It's a really funny movie, definitely worth the time

[indigo gulch]

Saved it, gonna watch it later

[valid delta]

Remember, it came out before Trump ran for office. Lol

[limber hull]

now, let's not get too political lol

[indigo gulch]

^

[valid delta]

Nothing political about setting the context of a movie about dumb people.

If some analogy exists in the real world that is not my fault.

[indigo gulch]

True

[limber hull]

I'd recommend just sticking away from "political person dumb" arguments because that uh

That ends badly

[valid delta]

There is no argument.

I made a statement that applies to the context of the movie.

There are a parts of the movie that hit different in terms of when the movie came out and whether or not the writers borrowed from real life, or created the story line on their own.

[final lotus]

Animals yes, but not players, especially if they are in the same clan

[boreal vessel]

@nocturne pendant elaborate brother. What do you believe needs fixing? I’d love to hear it.

[urban flax]

He means killed early on because of lack of camouflage, they stand out like a sore thumb in any environment
Except on the poles I guess

[valid delta]

Probably scales with placement on the food chain as well. Albino rabbit? Lunch. Albino eagle? Looks like a cloud. 😄

[waxen moss]

Does my HP , blood heal faster the longer i sit?

[tight iron]

yes

[waxen moss]

OK ty

[tight iron]

np

[final lotus]

Yes, that's what I understood👍 But this does not negate the fact that there were many albinos in the Legacy
(I do not know how things are in the Legacy now, I have not played the old version since the release of Evrima)

[urban flax]

Yeah that was annoying

[tight iron]

my raptor skin is a flashbang and i still survive, im sure albinos can do well

[icy lion]

@median coral Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers

[winter oyster]

Can’t get over that you changed your pfp….

[full pewter]

#general-feedback message
@tight iron
Is this why pounces feel so much more unreliable since gateway released? Pounces in 6.5 had other issues but they at least activated when you right clicked

[sage geode]

Who thinks boar is good idea 🐗

[lyric cosmos]

Why boar?

[wooden agate]

@hazy pier its fixed in HT #general-feedback message

[hazy pier]

ty for info, respect ++

[wooden agate]

@crude badger thats... not where that goes lul

[crude badger]

oh

srry

[tight iron]

yeah

[junior nymph]

@calm spade they are implimenting the breaking down tree thing already dondi showed it off months ago on rex

[calm spade]

Oh cool I didn't see that one

[junior nymph]

you can see it here https://youtu.be/rPEDpiyL0YE?si=0glWr7U0r8c3mHbt

[calm spade]

Nice, can't wait for them to get a Dino like Puertasaurus, I really like it on the isle but it got stuck on so many things and always died of hunger XD

[limber hull]

pue is the only dinosaur from legacy that isn't coming to EVRIMA

[calm spade]

I'm ok with any sauropod , I think I saw one that they might be working on in a drawing concept

[limber hull]

ya, that's camara

[uncut zephyr]

I hate the camera, they didn’t turn off the flash

[limber hull]

shut up

[uncut zephyr]

I’m sorry for upsetting you, but please do try to be less aggressive going forwards

[limber hull]

okay sorry

[uncut zephyr]

As long as you understand

[wooden agate]

i hate both of you

[limber hull]

wow

[uncut zephyr]

What the hell

Uncalled for

[tight iron]

bro 😭

YALL CONFUSE ME SO BAD

[sage geode]

Who disliked boar 🐗

Ik u did me photovuxtus no sense of humour no sense of fun,

🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Mr*

[limber hull]

wasnt me

[sage geode]

🤦‍♂️🤔

[limber hull]

look, i'll upvote it

[urban flax]

I downvoted it because I think it's fun

[uncut zephyr]

Good reason

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message @gritty schooner night time is literally half the time of day time lol

plus there has to be a decently timed night due to there being nocturnal creatures in game

[sage geode]

U have like 18 acccounts

Some like some dislike

[urban flax]

That's called schizophrenia

[barren zephyr]

despite night barely giving an advantage

[burnt bone]

<@&933486433342222376> not again...

[dawn topaz]

Im wondering, how is the status on Herrera fatal crashes? i cant find any news about it, any ETA on fix? If anyone have any info, dev statements or any official updates on it i would appreciate it alot 🙏

[tight iron]

waiting for engine update

[dawn topaz]

Ait, any estimates on that?

[tight iron]

absolutely no idea

[dawn topaz]

Ait, ty👌

[tight iron]

🫡

[rough wind]

#general-feedback message
A lot more sanctuaries are planned so the hotspot issue is only temporary
I do like the idea of randomized spawns and Dondi said that it was something he wanted to reintroduce in the future

[nova spear]

Yeah people say they get camped a lot in sanctuaries but if hardly happens to me when I play. As of right now if you go to the south plains sanctuary you’ve got a 50/50 chance of life or death tho

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

wdym "remove mixed groups"? There's zero feature that supports that

[timid tapir]

Didn't know they couldn't actually group. That's good then. Then I'd like to pitch the idea of having herbies become frightened around carnivores. The longer they are around them, the .ore non-functional they become.

[timid tapir]

Thanks for the clarification

[formal kayak]

Issue there is it’s easily abusable, if you’re a carnivore you can just force an herbivore to be near you and suddenly you’re winning.

[coarse spruce]

Selecting a dinosaur is a mixpacking feature. You should get dropped in as a random animal

[timid tapir]

How can I force an herbivore to be near me?

[formal kayak]

Wander near them for long enough, evading their attacks

[timid tapir]

You mean an actual attack? In a life and death situation I'm thinking they would get a bit panicy, why not reflect that mechanically.

You don't have to make it so they can't function, it might just be a visual thing

[hidden mist]

Because that only introduces a cursed gameplay for the people who really want to ruin other experiences even more.

[formal kayak]

Wdym?
No, I mean if herbivores get even some kind of nerf or issue when near carnivores for long enough, it can be abused by the carnivore.

[timid tapir]

Doesn't have to be a debuff, could be visual and or audio feedback.

[formal kayak]

Like a paranoia feature the galli usually have?

[hidden mist]

Megapack icon is already a visual cue we have in the game, if you mean that.

[timid tapir]

Something that makes the player not wanna be close to carnies, as they shouldn't

[timid tapir]

No, I'm thinking about players creating diabolical meta-groupings 😆

[timid tapir]

Haven't experienced the paranoia thing yet, but yeah. Perhaps the Dino makes a load of noices and grunts cause it's scared. Your vision gets a bit blurry, enough to be annoying, and so on.

[limber hull]

wouldn't that screw over herbis trying to hide from carnivores because it's grunting a storm?

also the idea of this applying with all herbis and all carnis implies a triceratops would get frightened by a troodon

[formal kayak]

Scary troodon!!

[limber hull]

as a general rule of game design, you shouldn't try to tell the player how they should be feeling, you should show the player something that makes THEM feel that way

[timid tapir]

I suppose shouting when trying to hide is a bad thing, good point. 😆

[timid tapir]

Not trying to be a game designer, but thanks. 👍

[formal kayak]

Designing a mechanism to stop mixpacking is quite difficult, if there’s a loophole or a way to exploit it, people will find it and use it.
Even then, it won’t stop it completely.

[timid tapir]

Will never make the game more enjoyable by not trying though.

[stone crystal]

I can guarantee a game designer wouldn't want a pack of bullies ruining the experience for pretty much everyone else on the server though. 😅 I believe there are no unsolvable game design problems. Perhaps one solution might be a similar system to that found in WoW with bounties being applied to certain players, who were pretty much doing the same thing.

[formal kayak]

Yes, but chances are the solution will not be as simple as, something happens if herbivore is near carnivore, or vice versa

[timid tapir]

As with everything, no?

The reason why I highlight this in the first place is to give the devs the feedback they are asking for. It's up to them to come up with a solution if they feel that this issues has become disruptive enough for their customers.

Meanwhile I'm litteraly just spitballing ideas ive been thinking about for 2-3 minutes 😆

[formal kayak]

No yeah I understand, just saying it could take a long while to find a good solution

I believe the devs have already stated they don’t like mixpacking and are looking for ways to prevent it

Don’t quote me but I think I’ve heard they have ideas? That may be me going crazy though, so take that with a grain of salt

[forest quartz]

is the speed 1061 means 1061cm/sec?

cuz then thats about 37-38km/h

[junior nymph]

i duno

[coarse spruce]

Yeah I worked it out as 38km/h as well

I had someone help me find ptera's speed stats as well with the same method

[forest quartz]

yeah so apparently the speed is shown in cm/second, you basically as an admin you can get all speeds because you are able to see the speed of players

[limber hull]

you gotta fit the solution within the game's theme and narrative. Bounties inherently make little sense in a game focused around being an animal and just trying not to die, because firstly, there's no reward you can give the player that makes sense in the context of the nitty gritty survival game

its a super complex problem, tbh, and I'd assume if there were easy answers, they'd be done already

@fading shadow #general-feedback message

Megalania, sure, but rex? No way. That thing does not need to be a better cerato

[timid tapir]

Boring to talk about the game with naysayers. 😝 Instead of to shutting down and kill the conversation, why not try and figure out a nice solution together?

My guess is that she thought about the idea for about a minute since she isnt employed at The Isle. Also, in order to solve a problem, you kinda need to brainstorm a bit.

[limber hull]

Well, there's the thing, the issue is balancing it in a way that doesn't immediately create a situation where it can be massively abused by trolls to gain an unfair advantage, or just punishes you for being an endurance hunter, or being hunted by one

So any debuffs of the stat variety (damage/speed/health/stam) are off the table due to how abusable that'd be
Vomiting/accelerated food drain is also a problem, on account of the fact that it basically means that hunting = more hungry which is bizarre
Forcing fear effects just screw over herbis, especially if they're meant to be in long-winded fights, or hide.
Vision obscuring effects might cause epilepsy or strain with people with vision disabilities, alongside the aforementioned unfair advantage (we've had enough problems with that when NV was first added)

This conversation has existed for a WHILE. It has been brainstormed by hundreds of people, hundreds of times, and there still isn't a concrete answer that doesn't end up being a monkey paw. It's a very delicate situation to tackle.

Now, if you want the closest thing I have to a solution, just create a hidden "comfort" stat. This comfort stat does nothing 95% of the time, all it does is determine if you can or cannot become a powerful elder once that system arrives. Sticking around other species makes you uncomfy, as well as other pre-requisites that don't matter for this argument. That's it.

Mixpack a lot = you now run the risk of just becoming a weak senior and never reaching peak strength.

[timid tapir]

Would be cool if the player gets into a "Rampage"-status if it has killed more animals than needed to survive. That's status makes one permanently (with a timer) visible on the compass 😆

[indigo gulch]

That sounds awful

Permanently trackable in a survival game?

[limber hull]

How can you determine how many animals something needs to survive?

[indigo gulch]

Is it the last to hit the prey?

Is it only big targets?

[limber hull]

What about getting food for packmates/hatchlings/growing kids?

What about self defence?

What about simply trying to keep things out of a territory you decided you wanted?

[indigo gulch]

What if you attack a group and gotta kill them all to survive

[timid tapir]

@limber hull Dont think they care about epilepsy or straining vision, they have thunderstorms. Also, never said it had to be blinking lights, they already have blood to indicate that dmg has been taken.

Assuming everyone's goal is to become an elder. Don't think the mix-group bullies has that as an end goal. Also when theyve reached elder, they can just continue to harras others.

[limber hull]

They do, because there was an entire NV system completely removed over it

Specifically removed due to epilepsy complaints

[indigo gulch]

But yeah no, that rampage thing sounds awful because there are too many variables and too many reasons to kill a lot

[limber hull]

I've yet to see anyone state the lightning storms trigger epileptic responses

[timid tapir]

Say, 100% more than to fill your stomach (pulled a number out my behind)

[indigo gulch]

That doesn’t change anything

[limber hull]

Elder is the endgoal. You either become an elder (before becoming a senior), or go straight to senior, and seniors SUCK compared to adults. So you just miss out on the strong part, and your mixpack gets full of weak, frail seniors, rather than powerful elders

[limber hull]

So I'm not allowed to kill a stego as a raptor, at all

Because then I'm on a rampage

[indigo gulch]

The points we mentioned earlier still stand

And bullies usually dont eat everything they kill regardless

[limber hull]

Well, that's not really the point tbf

[indigo gulch]

I realized as I typed it ye

[indigo gulch]

Bro what’s troodon supposed to kill? Hypsi only?

[limber hull]

lol

[indigo gulch]

You get half food from a compy

[timid tapir]

They will just start over. You'd probably have to make growing up slower.

[limber hull]

Starting over still hurts mixpacks lol

[timid tapir]

Not saying your not allowed, but a full compy has something wrong in the head for killing a 2ton stego

[indigo gulch]

You mean raptor?

[limber hull]

they're LITERALLY big game hunters

[indigo gulch]

That’s literally THE best stego hunter atm

[limber hull]

Well, besides teno, cera, deino and diablo

[indigo gulch]

I dont count the herbis

[limber hull]

Stego is honestly very easy to kill, especially post-hordetest

They keep nerfing the thing lol, IDK why they added the rekit if they were just going to make it horrible again lol

[timid tapir]

It's not punishing to start over ATM. Perhaps with a Croc it's a bit tedious.

[indigo gulch]

I haven’t seen a deino kill a stego properly in ages

[limber hull]

Grab and drown, very common in swamps now

[indigo gulch]

I haven’t seen anything in swamp last few sessions I played.

Probably just unlucky

[bronze nymph]

@vale pawn I Like all your ideas except the banana forests it would Just be too much Like the sancturay and Things Like Rex could just Walk through and knock every tree over and there goes the cover.

[vale pawn]

I see it more as a pseudo-sanctuary

Provides good cover, but can still be traversed through by larger animals

As for the rex thing yea i forgot about that.
But even then will a rex really be plowing through there 100% of the time, plus the trees can probably just regrow or come back after a server restart

[vale pawn]

Besides, it can still just be a neat area you occasionally travel through

[vestal adder]

So at the Devs... Are you guys trying to do something with all these hackers in your Hordetest, I cannot understand that we are not seeing or hearing anything done about this.... They are hacking in the hordetest servers and you do nothing about it... Is this fine to hack in this game? Seems like it is becoming a trent.

[icy lion]

Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers. The devs and admins do not announce when hackers are banned

The devs also don't talk about their anticheat improvements much since that would give hackers a head start on bypassing them

[vestal adder]

I have played against so many hackers, i am not here to report a hacker I want to find out if they are doing something about it because it is getting out of hand and everyone I play with is complaining....

Fully understand they dont talk about improvements on anti cheat but at least let the community know that they are working on it... As a player I just see more and more and more and more and more hackers not less... And I have no idea if something is being done about it... Even if I report them...

I think for the community it will be nice to know they are on it like a rocket then just staying quiet and saying nothing... My 2 cents as a customer care... 🙂

[dry falcon]

New pfp?

[icy lion]

Yup!

[dry falcon]

How long have you had the previous one for?

[icy lion]

Oof uhhh... at least a year I think

[dry falcon]

Not bad, not bad

The longest I had was around a year and a half

I'm one of those that never let go of a pfp 👍

[full pewter]

@slow rampart the people in charge of fixing bugs are different than those who add the features, stopping work on one will not speed up the process on the other

[slow rampart]

adding more features means more possibility of bugs and problems. stopping will allow devs to fix those issues without additional weight. this is common sense, come on

[full pewter]

The features are coming anyway, might as well get them in and deal with the bugs sooner rather than later

And a lot of the bugs currently are coming with the transitions to newer versions of UE5

[slow rampart]

with new additions comes new dev focus. again, if they stop, they can fix the bugs that EVERYBODY is complaining about, then add more features and fix those problems

this is why hordetesting is a thing

[full pewter]

Do you mean performance? Lagging? Low fps?

[slow rampart]

performance, bugs, and desync

[full pewter]

There’s a possibility that’s just the hoardetesting servers, and it could improve when we play on the official servers. But the issues with those are known, and apparently a lot of it is the bodies and corpses piling up, they are working on this

[slow rampart]

this is with the entirety of evrima. again, they are adding too much too fast. they need to catch up on fixing problems rather than adding features that come with new problems. its a weird relationship with too fast and too slow

[wooden agate]

this is not how game development tends to work

[ember flax]

Stego isnt weak / easy to kill at all

Stego is the strongest playable in the game right now

[stone crystal]

Well... it's what we call "tech debt" in the industry. 😅

[timid tapir]

When the pain of a bug/technical frailty gets so large/disruptive that it directly affects revenue, that is when bugfixing takes priority over new features.

With The Isles paymodel, all of us has already consumed the product and are no longer considered "customers". With new features (getting closer to v1.0) they can attract new paying customers.

[timid tapir]

[cyan flame]

It's not. Stego, for being a stego, is pretty weak and far easier to kill for things that reallly should have little to no ability to take it on. It was good for a little, then they nerfed the new kit and well, back to being less than good again.

[urban flax]

@final lotus It's the opposite that should be done
Give an acceleration time to playables that don't have it for whatever reason

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/never_ending-gif-24810109

even without new features, fixing one bug will create new ones. That's simply how it goes

[winter oyster]

@vale pawn #general-feedback message

HELL YEAH! I suggested the exact same thing months ago and talked about it in isle discussion, Filipe already gave a so they’ve discussed it

[restive fjord]

Learn how to play ptera, guys. It is not that hard. Really.

[tight iron]

we know how to play ptera

but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be improved

it's not hard, it's annoying

[boreal briar]

As a software developer, that feels kind of accurate.

@gloomy flame I don't think it's the branch causing the issues. If they push it into the main Evrima branch it would likely just make the main branch have the same problems.

They've been doing a lotta updates in the background so basically just gotta pray the next patch fixes the God awful desync/teleportation

[indigo gulch]

it's why I saved it 😛 I have a few dev friends and I torture them by spamming that whenever they say they have fixed something

[boreal briar]

@valid delta to he fair, they do have mods come and remove posts. But I feel that lol

[torpid talon]

To the most recent ‘feedback’, besides the hacker one is there any actual rants? And even the hacker one is kind of feedback since it is a problem rn. So, ironically, only rant I see is the one about other people ranting

[valid delta]

That's good. I expected there was some level of moderation to keep the scam/garbage posts off. But yeah. Lol

[valid delta]

My friend, that was HARDLY a rant. Lol

[boreal briar]

Yes it needs to be constructive, so I believe technically the post who shall not be named will get removed. I was going to respond with worse but I figured I shouldn't troll.

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[valid delta]

And yes, there are some. I didn't say the channels were nothing but that did I? But the channels already get full quickly and if we expect the game devs to focus on those things we want, it seems to me to be in our interest to avoid them getting washed away by silly posts that are meant to be rude.

I also would like to see a rule for keeping on one topic per feedback post.

[torpid talon]

Problem is how do you define what is and isn’t feedback yknow? It’s all subjective

[valid delta]

Well of course. Which is why I said cut back on, not eliminate entirely.

[torpid talon]

Like that one guy absolutely wasn’t feedback, especially plugging another game. Which is a shame since there is a legit hacking problem. My last five Dinos have all died to one. Some transparency, or a more clear cut reporting system would be great. (Dare I say an in game one)

[vale pawn]

[valid delta]

Oh do say!!!!! Do say that yes!!!! 😀

[thin aurora]

What's the allo gonna be like in Evrima? Any cool new quirks they're adding specifically to it?

[torpid talon]

Looks like it’s gonna have the legacy ambush mechanic

From how they’ve described it. Also seems to have a pin like Omni.

[final lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-10138981705770918347

[tight iron]

@limpid breach you outrun and outstam raptors

having said that tho 2 hours lost to a pin is uh

not fun

instead of making galli unable to be pinned i'd make it able to knock raptors down

cause if you make it unable to be pinned it's game over for raptors. outstams, outruns and jumps as high (iirc) as a raptor, so yeah literally game over

[limpid breach]

I’d really like if galli knocked down raptors, but yeah I’m not saying I want galli to be unpinnable I would just like a way to do something to help the chances of survival if u get pinned as galli.

[tight iron]

i know, but i believe that if you get pinned it's 99% of the time your fault and you should've avoided it, the other 1% being a raptor spawning practically inside of you and you not realizing in time

so i find being able to escape pins stupid, but i also find galli taking 2 hours to grow while being weaker than a raptor stupid

so i'd rather just do a middle ground

[limpid breach]

Usually if I get pinned it’s a tip of the tail shot, ik that’s just the isles desync but it’s still so annoying

[tight iron]

yup, annoying asf, i agree

[icy lion]

@mild isle It can already scent while flying though?

[mild isle]

can it? is it just worse?

I've flown over SP as pteradon so many times and despite there being bodies obv I smelled nothing

[icy lion]

Yea the range is the same as if you're moving on the ground

You have a larger scent range when standing still, that's universal

[mild isle]

yeahh then I can edit my suggestion, a buff to the sniff while flying is still good imo

thanks for pointing that out I'm not sure what I was thinking

[rough wind]

#general-feedback message
The devs have talked about working on the anti cheat
They just havent made an official annoucement

honestly it might be better if they just dont talk about it to prevent cheaters from learning anything about it

[limber hull]

That’s the idea

[icy lion]

@wooden condor https://youtu.be/thA9xHBLkX4

[limber hull]

genuinely, give them updrafts, and they're set

[wooden condor]

He is just on same spot on air, not going up or down or even god forbid speeding up, i sugest you to grow an full ptera to see

[limber hull]

are we watching the same video

he hits the CLOUDS

[boreal briar]

@coarse spruce You can't take anything you see from a development stream at face value. Animations are still getting worked on for dinosaurs that are already out, they will surely refine their animations on something they're not even in open testing with.

[wooden condor]

I mean, in the begging

[boreal briar]

I just tried a few times with petra to go as high as I can. You can legit get way higher from even just tapping spacebar slowly compared to just holding it. Even without going in circles like they did, I can easily reach the highlands lake from Water Access's lowest points

Regen is still pretty long, can't deny that part though >.>

[latent olive]

@sage geode why did you chat GPT prompt something about galvanised steel

[sage geode]

Shhh 🤫

[latent olive]

brother why are you even bothering to shh, youre yelling inside a hallway

[sage geode]

? Ok bro

I mean shh as in a joke

[latent olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190479571762548807/1215465899444928532/attachment-2.gif

[sage geode]

Bro who shhh in your in ear in preschool

[wooden agate]

@lucid lotus i think reworking it to be more about health regen rate would be good but in its current form? yes, remove it #general-feedback message

[tight iron]

taht is not an unpopular opinion btw

dat is in fact a very popular opinion

[lucid lotus]

That's nice to hear though

[lucid lotus]

agree!

[barren zephyr]

#general-feedback message if anyone has a solution @ me, because i cant think of one tbh

[urban flax]

Make having a perfect diet not mandatory
Only the pack leader gets buffs
The other ones live with the scraps

[timid tapir]

I think this becomes an issue only because everyone is concentrated in south river. Spread the players across the island, that will spread the area they have to cover in order to hunt. Hopefully that would make it more difficult to actually get a perfect diet.

[tight iron]

make all diets give you somewhat close to the growth boost you get from perfect diet and remove all the buffs from perfect diet that aren't growth related

so for example a raptor takes 2 hours to grow with 2s 1 3 dot, 2:10 with 1 s 2 3 dot, instead of 3 hours or smth

[icy lion]

@tardy elbow Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers

[bronze matrix]

@barren zephyr honestly i don't see the problem

• Perfect diets are not mandatory you can get by (not suffer any debuffs) by just filling 1 nutrients slot which can be easily achieved by hunting preferred prey. That being said even having those debuffs is not totally fatal so if you see yourself losing your diet just leave the pack.
• This is actually a good way to manage pack size. Big packs should only be supported if there is enough prey or big enough prey around. If there is not enough around, just split up into smaller packs or go off on your own.
• Once larger dinosaurs come out bigger packs of raptors can be supported outside of hotspots.
• Having to kill a lot of prey as a big pack when inside of a hotspot is good actually. Once the spawn randomizes, hotspots might still form at which point having carnivores around that disrupt these concentrations is necessary.
• I don't get what you mean by "disrupts the games balance" ... Not only don't I get how big packs struggling outside of an abundance of prey is disrupting the games balance I also don't really believe there is a balance in a game that is still in development and subject to constant changes.
• It is not immersion breaking for me. There are a lot of animals that go on killing sprees and just eat the "juicy" parts when there is a abundance of prey. Bears do it during the salmon season, foxes and martens do it if they get into a chicken coop.
• It ruins the player experience and overshadows other aspects of the game for players that choose to concentrate at hotspots like south plains. If you want to avoid that don't go there.

The real problem is the existence of the south plains hotspot and the missing larger dinosaurs. When the players are more equally spread out and larger ones are among them you can have your big pack that can sustain itself by not just going on killing sprees.

[timid tapir]

Well said, i agree. Perfect diet should be a privilege, not a norm.

[barren zephyr]

Fair enough

[tardy pawn]

@tired quest #general-feedback-discussion message
#isle-discussion message
This has already been addressed ^-^ I attached the replies here

[tired quest]

welp, I guess the only way to check if a server is playable is to search the word "hack/cheat " in the DC and see how many result appear in that day then.

[quick frost]

Hey can we put this new anti cheat in now, people are leaving this game because of the hackers. that is literally all i die to anymore.

[icy lion]

@left ridge JJ also has some ptera guide videos that can help, ptera can fly for a long time once you get the hang of it https://youtu.be/thA9xHBLkX4

[wooden agate]

@final epoch its not admin only

[final epoch]

if not then why has the system never helpe myself or m friends, we have been stuck in holes a good couple of times an the command has never worked an we ha to resort to dying to fix it

[tight iron]

uh it's not admin only it just has no message in the live branch

if there's someone near it won't work

[final epoch]

if people are near? like how close are we talking

[tight iron]

ive absolutely no idea

[final epoch]

well that doesnt help as i have ranoms that just came over and are sitting nearby watching me be stuck so theres nothing i can do but sit here and die

[azure ruin]

That's unfortunate

[restive fjord]

The saddest part about all of this ptera mess is that it is actually insanely simple to play it rn. People want to change it because they do not know how to play it and therefore they always address that as a balance problem. The last thing I would like to have in this game is balancing things based on skill issues. Exactly the reason why I am always salty about the topic. That is really the worst way possible to manage issues, especially if the skill can be "fixed" literally by one video like this. Like come on, guys. Galli has the same stam recovery, gator has the same stam recovery. Why is it problem only for ptera? From those 3, ptera is taking the clear W in stam efficiency. Only galli now in current HT build is very close with that trot speed.

[sage geode]

Double celled organisms were the first mixpackers

[tight iron]

everything you said is wrong here excepting croc and galli stam recovery

what's not cool is having to go from a place to another and being forced to go uphill for like a minute, having to use all stam management techniques and still losing it all, which means that you'll have to sit down, tab out, or go afk

and sorry but it's a bird, it shouldn't take a phd in stamina management to play it

• 4+ mins of stam regen is absolutely crazy for anything

it's easy to play and i agree, but a bird should not have such a horrible stam regen

the issue here is that if you can't fly, what are you going to do as a ptera? sit down for 4 mins? that's watching paint dry, it's boring as heck, and nobody plays a game to be bored

genuinely feels like you're being grounded for playing this game as a ptera

[restive fjord]

The stam regen is not problem at all here. Players would burn that stam in a matter of 20 seconds and even 1.50 mintues is going to be pain for them. At one point you are saying it is easy to play it, on the second thought it is "unplayable" because you cannot fly? Why you cannot fly then? Is it easy or not then? Where excactly is the problem?

[tight iron]

yeah the stam regen is the problem

and i've never said it's unplayable

i've said that it's like watching paint dry when you haev to burn all your stam

[restive fjord]

no, you are using other words but the meaning is right there

[tight iron]

no it's not

[restive fjord]

What would be the ideal regen time for you?

[tight iron]

less than 2 minutes

[restive fjord]

So one of the best if not the best? Fair enough. Why?

[restive fjord]

why you have to? 🙂

[tight iron]

to travel

to travel to certain places, you must

[tight iron]

cause it's a bird and nothing should take more than 2 mins

just for the sake of player retention

[restive fjord]

Very few things are under 2 minutes. Not sure if it is not only hypsi in fact. It is general problem in your eyes then, isnt it? Also.. In order to gain stam for the maximum amount of time, you need to burn it completely. Does this happen to you while playing ptera more often than with any other playable?

[tight iron]

yeah it's a general problem in my eyes, i posted like 7 consecutive feedbacks about it, so...

and yeah it happens to me as a ptera more than anything

i spawn, immediately go to highlands, eat 1-2 fish, go to west rail access, eat frogs, go back to highlands and repeat

to go to highlands i have to burn my entire stamina bar, and after that i pretty much never go below half

forgot to say, yeah, it happens to me with ptera more than with anything, i never go below 60% as anything other than ptera

[north quiver]

ptera stam is absolutely a problem. I used to love playing pter but now it’s pretty bad and one of the main reasons I just avoid playing it

• you can’t hunt anything
• you can’t harass anything (pecking a heavier playable results in falling to the ground to your death)
• you’re not even a good scavenger. you can’t pick up heavy organs and you have a horrible diet selection
• you’re not a good juvie hunter
• troodons easily body you even though you’re supposed to hunt them
• all you can eat is one diet that’s reliable, and that’s fish

since ptera can’t do anything, improving its stam won’t affect crucial balance very much

oh and hatchlings are mythical unicorns to find

[restive fjord]

Highlands is the only place that takes an effort from ptera, that is true. You can also go pretty much anywhere from there. Even die of hunger in one flight from there. Why would you play ptera like that tho? To point out a problem that is happening only in one specific case?

[tight iron]

you see, in my opinion, stamina taking 4 minutes is a problem

as i said before, i believe that nothing should take over 2 minutes

so if ptera regen time, instead of being 4+ mins, becomes, for example, 2 minutes and 20 seconds, great improvement in my opinion

[north quiver]

I’m fine with larger, more powerful playables taking a long time for stam, but a playable that can’t do anything doesn’t have an excuse to have horrible stam regen

[tight iron]

less watching paint dry for most people

[tight iron]

pretty much this

[tight iron]

and this

[north quiver]

ptera just gets shafted because of its notorious past of the annoying playable that could peck adult carnos and stegos to death

it can’t do that anymore, so the bad stam is very unnecessary lol

[tight iron]

also the mixpack scouts

sorry but too many forests and weird places to dodge to make it able to do that

[north quiver]

yep. it’s pretty easy to lose them in the jungles

[restive fjord]

"you can’t hunt anything" - you can hunt quite a good selection from your own diet list, even what is not there, like some juvis. They dont fly ofc so you need to target them on ground and be smart about it.
"you can’t harass anything (pecking a heavier playable results in falling to the ground to your death)" - why would you tho? Or better question - what does it mean harass? Pecking results into falling to the ground? No. Hitting objects result into that which is, imho, normal thing and.. skill issue.
"you’re not even a good scavenger. you can’t pick up heavy organs and you have a horrible diet selection" - most of small things cant pick organs from bigger bodies, not sure what is the threshold but yes, taking organs from bigger bodies is for some reason a no go. This is not ptera´s problem exclusively so there is no point in that for discussion about ptera.
"you’re not a good juvie hunter" - no, my dear friend. I am 😄 You are not. And I am sorry, but again.. Skill issue. Like really?
"troodons easily body you even though you’re supposed to hunt them" - yes they can body you. Either you are smart about how to approaching them or going for smaller ones. They have pteras in their diets too and they have venom as well.
"all you can eat is one diet that’s reliable, and that’s fish" - eh, no? Not at all? When did you play ptera the last time? I am keeping my pteras on constant perfect diet.

[restive fjord]

Ptera is not able to peck adult carnos and stegos to death.. YES, it is not. Wtf?

[north quiver]

it was able to on Spiro which gave it a horrible reputation

[restive fjord]

It is better balance that having to sit down for stam after mismanagement in your eyes?

[north quiver]

you could peck a carno or whatever you wanted without falling. now if your beak makes contact, you start freefalling (not the type of fall you get when whacking into an object)

which is good. ptera doesn’t need to be pecking large things to death

[north quiver]

ptera just needs better stam because it won’t affect balance. that’s all c:

[restive fjord]

Are you a skimming 45 kg fisher or predator with heat vision tech? Lol.

[north quiver]

?

[restive fjord]

Sorry if I am being sarcastic again but I was discussing things like this all the time. Turned out ppl just wanted to do things with ptera that should absolutely not be able to. Like never. The fact that this playable was very poorly designed and balanced (as a matter of fact, still is in my eyes) back then is not an excuse for its current state.

[restive fjord]

"since ptera can’t do anything, improving its stam won’t affect crucial balance very much" - not sure if I understand this. If ptera is boring to play, even infinite stam would not solve the issue, right?
"oh and hatchlings are mythical unicorns to find" - are you suggesting here that ptera should be there with ovi and galli in egg stealing squad? Im all for that, actually. How to solve that tho? Even for the rest of the egg stealing roster. Some ability to sniff eggs/nest from a certain radius? Ptera can definitely have ability like that, I agree. But again. Should not be ptera exclusivity.

[north quiver]

ptera does increased damage specifically to hatchlings iirc (it was added back on Spiro? I think)

many things about our current ptera aren’t fun, but the stam makes it a lot worse because that is the sole dictator of what you can or can’t do and how long you can do it. improving stam will give a lot of breathing room instead of being forced to sit for 3+ minutes staring at a phone, another tab, or anything other than the game you’re wanting to play and enjoy

[tight iron]

ive had clash royale matches last less than getting my stam back as a ptera

[restive fjord]

the point here was about stam regen, not stam pool

[north quiver]

I didn’t specify stam pool. I also thought it was also pretty implied since I mentioned the 3+ minute regen time..

[marsh bough]

Come on Dev's check all the general Feedback about hackers.. DO SOMETHING

[tight iron]

they do check it

about doing something, i guess they are, can't really tell

[marsh bough]

Since 2 years every time i play on offi there are more and more hackers, thats really insane. First game i see that. We tell them loooots of time and didnt change. Hope they are working on it but i'm afraid they arent 🤣

[tight iron]

yup 🤷‍♂️

[restive fjord]

"the stam makes it a lot worse because that is the sole dictator of what you can or can’t do and how long you can do it" - you can stay in the air for like half an hour even if you are fighting something

[tight iron]

ummmm no

max you can do is 3 minutes

[north quiver]

maybe if you severely micromanage your stam and avoid any and all inclines. even then that’s not what ptera should have to do to avoid a long stam regen time

[tight iron]

it just requires a phd in stamina management to get saved from what's coming

[restive fjord]

absolutely no, 10-15 mins completely without any hassle

[tight iron]

no sire, 3 mins

go up to a high highlands moutain, drop down to avoid wasting stamina, go all the way to west rail acess, don't drop down with control, that's about 3-5 mins

it also takes about 5 minutes to cross the entire map so i don't know where you got the 10-15 mins from

[restive fjord]

Go on charge mode with carno from west rail to west beach.. I can create my own situations where things go rough with ease too.

[restive fjord]

from my own gameplay

[tight iron]

hmm

actually, if you go around river delta flying with your cam just a bit above so you consume barely any stamina, maybe you'll be able to last that amount of time

[tight iron]

what is this supposed to mean?

[restive fjord]

You are purposely pointing out the worst possible scenarios (there is actually only one) in order to prove your point. I can make my own too.

[tight iron]

i am not...?

weird accusation to throw around

if you even played ptera as you said, you'd know that you last about 3-5 mins in the air as i said with the example provided

however im not saying using any stamina, simply glide down

if you decide to slowly go up to maintain your position, yeah that's about 10+ minutes of flying right there

closer to 15, maybe even 20 if you play your cards correctly

however most of the time you have to make sharp turns, fly up, etc, so yeah in a few cases you're good to fly for 15 ish minutes

[restive fjord]

not related?

[tight iron]

tbf we were both wrong there

you can stay in the air for more than 3 mins, but you cant get close to half an hour

i was talking about flying while fighting, which is usually about 3 mins before you have to rest again

[restive fjord]

Multiple factors in that scenario and each scenario is obviously different. I was fighting/pecking things around south for more than 10 minutes and still had stam left. Killed 4 troodons in the process, raptor juvi too but I cant recall everything, there was more. It was one of those very good runs and I was watching time on my phone because it was, well, during my working hours, lol (working from home). I did not start the pecking purposely at specific time, was flying around before all of that since I am actively scouring west flats with WR spawnpoint + south. Could be 12 minutes in the air, idk. Not all of that while fighting but more than 3 minutes for sure.

Very easy and fun to peck things around west mudflats.

[tight iron]

in this case, sure, south plains is possible

with possible i mean yeah you can do that

provided that it's plains and people don't use slopes n stuff to their advantage, yeah

i personally am very aggressive as a ptera and make sharp turns, go up and down depending on the moves of my prey, etc, so i don't last that much mid air

[restive fjord]

and just like that, bang.. recorded that too. I am actually going to record things with ptera from now on. Better to show all than just talking into walls 🙂

[hollow stump]

Spanish dude figured out how to put body’s in the dam done it to me can’t get out dam at water access

[boreal briar]

@inland flare the bees are only in those clusters of trees. They are "Sactuaries" for the small dinosaurs. The bees are aggressive once you are too big.

Avoid those trees where you hear the bees buzzing. Just walk around.

[fickle timber]

@lime solar its not gonna be good imo think about it, a fg cera can smell juvis location = the game is not gonna be playable if u not fast

[tight iron]

@topaz lintel grab em put em outside for around 10 minutes and eat them

when they are rotten they give you 3 dot

[topaz lintel]

wait fr

[tight iron]

don't ask me how it works, i just know it does

[topaz lintel]

bro what T-T

[tight iron]

and yes im being fr 😭

i dont know HOW but it works

[topaz lintel]

NAH CAUS HOW

[limber hull]

needs to be fixed so bad lol

[tight iron]

no you

[topaz lintel]

nuh uh

[tight iron]

jokes aside im pretty sure i heard it was intentional or smth

[topaz lintel]

it should be on diet anyways

[limber hull]

almost absolutely not

[tight iron]

i agree

[topaz lintel]

croc needs another dots diet

[limber hull]

def an unintentional side-effect

[tight iron]

thats what im thinking but might be

let me check

[topaz lintel]

and schooling fish are the only non player AI that feeds you at some point

[limber hull]

fish are already WAY too easy for deino to live off, why tf does it get so much food from tiny fish

elite fish are fine, but they should be

[topaz lintel]

fish can be big, the schooling fish size is based off how big your croc is

also players are NOT reliable

you cant live off players

[tight iron]

schooling fish are 3 dot, elite fish are lines, sounds pretty epic to me

[topaz lintel]

i think its fine

[limber hull]

sounds too easy to me lol

[tight iron]

only thing that's left is s which is players

[topaz lintel]

but yeha man THANK YOU

[tight iron]

anytime sir

[topaz lintel]

because

[tight iron]

now enjoy free 3 dot till they fix it if they even do

[topaz lintel]

ngl i am STARVED of my diet

[limber hull]

probably will given how unintentional it seems to be

[tight iron]

only issue gonna be the s but yeah

[topaz lintel]

just tryna grow a croc fr 😭 🙏

[wooden agate]

its an apex, you shouldnt be surviving off fish

[tight iron]

eh, deinos cant survive on players and growth time is super long, might be easy but makes it not hell on earth

[limber hull]

dondi has made it pretty clear deino is not meant to be a cakewalk

[topaz lintel]

its not

between canis and the lack of AI spawning

its hard to find fish even if you look sometimes

[wooden agate]

you absolutely will not starve as deino with how many elite fish spawn and then beach themselves the second you come within 3 miles of them

[topaz lintel]

dawg

elite fish feed like 0.2% at fg deino

your not living off them lmao

schooling fish are the only food source when theres nobody around

and even then its SO hard to find them some days

[wooden agate]

then maybe you should to go a water source where there are people around

i will never support making deino an easier grow than it already is lol

[tight iron]

good luck

[topaz lintel]

hmm, like south plains?

[wooden agate]

considering thats absolutely possible, yes. highlands lake, swamp, even river delta can be a decent spot

[topaz lintel]

well tell that to the 5 mixpacking crocs who are with like 3 stegos and KOS

highlands: the most UNCONSISTANT hotspot

yeah your starving

[wooden agate]

have had several successful deinos at highlands

[topaz lintel]

SWAMPS: where the only thing to kill are stegos, and they arent dumb so they arent going swimming any time soon

[wooden agate]

dibbles:

[tight iron]

ngl i dont die in highlands

[topaz lintel]

not out yet

[tight iron]

theres like 7 different schooling fish schools at all times

[wooden agate]

literally in hordetesting 🔥

[topaz lintel]

i mean highlands is alright

[wooden agate]

playable right now 🔥

[tight iron]

hordetesting is unplayable 🔥

[wooden agate]

maybe for you, its working fine for me lol

[tight iron]

everyone's frickin cheating and everyone is tping 🔥

[topaz lintel]

yeah but the whole point is that he says schooling fish shouldnt exist lmao

[tight iron]

wat

[topaz lintel]

so if you cant rely on them what can you do at highlands lmao

[wooden agate]

literally no one said that

im saying schooling fish should not be on deino's diet

[topaz lintel]

.

but yk yeah

[wooden agate]

can you point to where i say schooling fish shouldnt exist

cause either im blind or i didnt say that

and um yes? you are an 8 ton crocodile? you should not be surviving on fish?

[topaz lintel]

you didnt say it word for word lmao

but yeah guess what

crocs are generally cold blooded 0:

so that also means they dont need to eat so much to stay alive

eating fish is perfectly enough to hold it over

[wooden agate]

i dont think a 15 pound fish is going to hold over an 8 ton crocodile

[topaz lintel]

and you have to eat a LOT of fish to get full hunger

[wooden agate]

then why add it to the diet if its already perfectly viable with just schooling fish

[topaz lintel]

so like maybe 1000 pounds of fish or somthing like that yeah, the fish also are really big prolly around 200 pounds each

[wooden agate]

schooling fish are absolutely not 200 pounds

[topaz lintel]

the ones you grab as fg croc are yeah

they as big as elite fish

[wooden agate]

thats more an issue with fish scaling with growth (which is also dumb)

[topaz lintel]

no it makes sense

[wooden agate]

schooling fish filling up 11% hunger is dumb

[topaz lintel]

if a baby croc bites into a school of fish its going to get a smaller one if it gets one at all

[wooden agate]

fish magically get bigger in my mouth 🔥

[topaz lintel]

and if a big croc does the same its going to get a bigger one

its logic man

not hard at all

[wooden agate]

fish magically getting bigger in your mouth is logic?

ok yeah im done with this convo, good day

[topaz lintel]

look at what i typed before you say somthing dumb like that lol

[wooden agate]

((it would be logical if all the fish in the school werent the exact same size))

[bronze nymph]

I mean an apex should not be able to live of ai it should need to hunt to sustain itself.

[tight iron]

something that deinos cant do

[wooden agate]

you should have to find decent hunting spots as deino. sorry but ai should not be enough to sustain you whatsoever as anything apex-tier. imagine if rex could survive off solely ai 💀

it would be legacy all over again

[tight iron]

i agree with this, however there are none unless you wanna go to south plains

[topaz lintel]

yo i ate the rotten ones and i didnt get a diet, do you need to wait 10 min or just until its rotten?

[tight iron]

wait 10 mins

[topaz lintel]

alright thanks T-T

[tight iron]

they will show as rotten but they're actually not

so you have to wait the 10 mins

[wooden agate]

swamp:
highlands:
water access if you're feeling especially cannibalistic:

river delta can be alright sometimes
west rail access is also an amazing spot for deino shenanigans

[tight iron]

none work

you see one player per 2 hours in highlands

[wooden agate]

actual skill issue, ive been able to grow and sustain FG deinos several times at all locations i mentioned (except river delta, but meh)

acting as if highlands isnt one of THE hotspots in HT right now

[tight iron]

not a skill issue

cause im not playing in ht

im not even talking about ht, ht sucks balls rn

more cheaters than normal players

[topaz lintel]

another quick question, will i be able to smell it as dots or do i have to just know when the time is up

[tight iron]

you need to know when the time is up

[topaz lintel]

alright

ima just wait a hella long time

i got like 20 fish

[tight iron]

10 mins should be enough

iirc it's 7 minutes but just wait 10

[topaz lintel]

yeahh

ill wait a bit more prolly afk grow a bit too

[tight iron]

alr

[topaz lintel]

LMAO

[tight iron]

just spawn as a deino in water access, kill yourself, spawn as deino again, eat your corpse, catch an elite fish, eat it, afk grow a bit, eat the deino corpse again, eat the bones, go to highlands, survive on fish till someone comes

[topaz lintel]

real

[tight iron]

gotta say tho, you can go hours without seeing anyone

[topaz lintel]

i prefer to stay around delta ngl

[tight iron]

sure

[topaz lintel]

this time once im grown ill try and make it to highlands

[tight iron]

fish invasion

[topaz lintel]

not sure how to though

[tight iron]

go to water access and straight to highlands

you'll get there with low hp due to dehydration btw

[topaz lintel]

yeahh

i mean ive made it to sp, cant be much different

[tight iron]

yus

[topaz lintel]

well ima go afk

thanks for the help

[tight iron]

np

[boreal briar]

@spice orbit that's been brought up before. The issue us trolls. People would just intentionally hang around people to affect them with the debuff

[slate narwhal]

Thoughts on my idea for titanoboa having heat sense/vision akin to modern pit vipers that it can toggle on and off allowing it to track its prey from a significant distance as well as giving it a heads up when something it can’t take on is coming it’s way, since it will probably need it because it has to slither to safety.

[tight iron]

i would like it

it'll be slow as heck so it would be good to have those things

[slate narwhal]

Exactly, even if it moved like a modern racer snake that would still be pretty dang slow, so an extra heads up so it could get a bit of a head start I think would be very helpful.

[tight iron]

yus

[junior thicket]

My Feedback:
Spawned in as a Cera
Ate some Deer and other random stuff i found
ran around in the rain for an hour or so.
continued to run around in the rain.
More running the rain.
Continued to hunt for imaginery animals to eat.. did stop raining
Still running around looking for anything to eat.. nearly starving now
got to 70% grown.
Oh here comes the rain again.
Back to running around in the rain..
Still no animals to eat..
Dead
:Cause of death starvation.

Will return to the game once they allow animals to be hunted in the wild..

Graphics were good though 🙂

[tall hearth]

You know cerato is able to eat bones, bodies, and rotten meat right? You're not stuck just eating ai.

It's got a huge scent range, so you can smell bodies and food from a long ways away

[nova spear]

I was gonna say that, cerato is like the anti starvation dino

[hidden mist]

I wish all ceras actually ate bodies in South Plains. They really should get their bile and nutrients again when overeating, otherwise they have no incentive to actually eat up all leftovers.

[barren zephyr]

Did you ever try sniffing for a body or bones..?

[wooden agate]

how do you manage to die as cera via starvation when you can smell like 30% of the island at any given time? and you can eat bones and rotten bodies?

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
#general-feedback message

Double whammy for "revert to worse versions of the game" lol

[urban flax]

@wooden agate Or make it so that lunge deals damage before grabbing its target, so if it connects with something that is small enough to be oneshot by the first tick of damage it doesn't get grabbed

[timid tapir]

Sorry you got a bad experience of the game, so bad you got deterred from playing. This is pretty much how the game plays atm though, so I dont blame you for quiting.

A few things that might be the reason you had a rough time:

• Did you use your scent for 10-15 seconds while standing still? (A Cera can smell quite far but need time to pick up far away corpses)
• Did you spawn/move towards the more populated areas/migrations? (Players usually gravitate towards 2-3 areas of the map.)
• Did you eat bones/rotten meat? (Ceras can eat pretty much anything)

I really hope you try again soon 🙂

[opal gate]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRqfjNNWPfgc&ved=2ahUKEwjilK220aOHAxVrhv0HHYgYA6kQtwJ6BAgOEAI&usg=AOvVaw0J0_b13v0ZG95YVZnXJy0q

there you can see, its 5 min then you can eat dots from fish

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message to expand on this, bind it to 5, and make it so you can only do it once you can pair. it'll be louder for your own species, but other species will have to be considerably closer to hear it.

[urban flax]

So it's just an improved 1-call ?

[wooden agate]

hell, put it on a cool down. i dunno

i just like the idea of a mating call

or hell, let adult dinosaurs let out scent markers when they can pair that others of the same species can smell

[urban flax]

I prefer the idea of scent markers

[wooden agate]

just something to make finding other people who want to nest a bit easier

[vagrant jungle]

.<

[meager charm]

pretty much why i avoid going for anything bigger than a carno as an omni, can't trust the lag

[north quiver]

#general-feedback message perfect except for the mention of larger ai. that never needs to be added on officials

[tight iron]

happened to me 2 days ago

[vagrant jungle]

Just horrible 😑

[tight iron]

agreed

[vagrant jungle]

Another great variation

[tight iron]

bruh

[vagrant jungle]

Yeah it’s beyond bad this stuff

[tight iron]

@hybrid mica you are meant to not get pinned

basically just that

troodons do a heck ton of damage when pinned in retaliation

im surprised the raptor that pinned you isn't dead

but i agree with one thing, that pin was complete bs

[hybrid mica]

ye kinda, just that the devs said that "adding the dilo eating alive thing will be hard cus we dont want people to sit and not be able to do anything while they die" but then this is ok

[vagrant jungle]

True that deadly even

[tight iron]

i mean dilo isnt raptor yknow

but yeah i understand

(what im saying is that dilo eating you alive isnt comparable to raptor pin)

[north quiver]

pretty sure they’ll look into changing it at some point because iirc galli’s omni pin is going to be changed (it seems like it was hinted at?) and I believe fighting back against deino’s lunge was also hinted at c: pin has been a massive problem since gateway’s better stam (not even touching on grapple. that’s an ugly beast)

plus it’d be great if they were consistent with that mentality of not wanting people to be unable to do anything while watching their dino die

[vagrant jungle]

Oh lord

That little slide screwed u up

[tight iron]

yup

[karmic sequoia]

@urban flax WHY THO D:

Also, delightful description

[urban flax]

Doesn't sound like an interesting niche, nor does it sound balanced

Imagine the damage a 1.6 creature can do if it's allowed to go in the sanctuaries when troodons already kill everyone there

Also I don't know why the myth of "magy can't be viable unless it's given poison" is still a thing

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
Is this troll ?

[tight iron]

he isnt wrong but theres no way to impede it

[wooden agate]

it has to be

[urban flax]

He is wrong
Friendly call is used to show you're not hostile to someone you cannot chat with
That's the POINT of calls

[tight iron]

i know, but he's talking about absolute realism

complete, total, absolute