general-feedback-discussion

[barren zephyr]

cerato i am asuming

[tight iron]

rappie

[barren zephyr]

jit goes berserk

[tight iron]

oh im talkin about dilo

[barren zephyr]

its the avergae town pitbull

agilety

[tight iron]

mfer just speeds at you spam biting you and spamming clones

[barren zephyr]

me fr

[tight iron]

you literally go insane it's so much pressure

[barren zephyr]

jk

i actualy use skill

deffenetly

[tight iron]

you got like 30 seconds to find a rock or a fence during night

[tight iron]

real

[tight iron]

cant change directions either

otherwise ye shall meet teh clones

[barren zephyr]

pounce it and get a free taxi to nearest rock

[tight iron]

LOL

the frontcheck: 👋

[barren zephyr]

(disclaimer, it will buck and your stam gets obliterated by unusual force(not my problem))

[tight iron]

yus

dilo is truly ballin rn

was playing dilo like a month ago and a carno tried to kill me

literally i just avoided a charge went up to his ass bit him 3 times in 1 second and ran away

he was already on purple so no chasing

[barren zephyr]

thats peak dilo gameplay

[tight iron]

yus

also i ofc was spamming clones

[barren zephyr]

almost clapped some fg carno once, got him to like orange until his partner came out of thin air (real) and killed me

[barren zephyr]

another dilo classic

[tight iron]

rip

[barren zephyr]

wait hol up

anyways

you could probably guess i got mad

19 downvotes!

gonna get world record

[tight iron]

ofc you did

i would be mad as well

i got very very mad at one goofy stego once

he gladly helped me kill a small sub stego (ma boi just BONKED the head of the stego while trying to protect him) so i wanted to eat da corpse

however this fg stego did not want to let me eat

[barren zephyr]

comes from the same guy that says raptor solos stego easily

[tight iron]

the 20 mins after was the biggest beating this boi has ever gotten

[tight iron]

um how does that make sense

[barren zephyr]

wow, kills its allies to annoy someone

[tight iron]

first i never said raptors solo stegos easily

[barren zephyr]

peak the isle gameplay

[tight iron]

wat

can i not eat or smth sir

[barren zephyr]

what

[tight iron]

two stegos one fg one sub

[barren zephyr]

thats what you said happened

[tight iron]

no 💀

[tight iron]

i target the sub to kill and eat him

[barren zephyr]

yes, stego kills sub stego, as you said. and body camped

[tight iron]

the fg tries to protect him but accidentally kills him

[barren zephyr]

helped, same thing

oh

[tight iron]

no 😭

so then he body camps

and i get so mad i just completely ignore the body and beat the absolute crap outta him

[barren zephyr]

LMAO

[tight iron]

my man logged off in the shore with 2 fg stegos protecting him

cause he seriously got the biggest beating he's ever gotten

[barren zephyr]

karma

its real

[tight iron]

i dont even have to explain that i calmly enjoyed my sub stego corpse with the two other fg stegos watchin me like: wtf

that wsa just hilarious

[barren zephyr]

i remember being a lil juvie dilo, scavanging of someones cera body, thy went to target a stego nearby inmstead, idk why. later sees a youtube video, of the same goddamn fight

it was in highlands

[tight iron]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

[barren zephyr]

like 6 omnis

[tight iron]

you got two povs LOL

[barren zephyr]

got my perf diet

[tight iron]

yours and the video

wait hol on hol on

[barren zephyr]

it was that one other omni pro

that does youtube

[tight iron]

that was actually us 💀

LOL

[barren zephyr]

💀

[tight iron]

THAT WAS LITERALLY US 😭

[barren zephyr]

thanks i guess

[tight iron]

the second you said cera body and stego i immediately remembered

[barren zephyr]

the cera was like 60%

[tight iron]

was gonna ask you the skins of the raptors

[barren zephyr]

that was crazy ngl

[tight iron]

i never change my skin so if you see a black and white flashbang moving around it's 100% me

[barren zephyr]

flashbang is crazy

[tight iron]

i like my skin too much

if i was offered a 200% growth boost with a different skin i would say no

[barren zephyr]

damn

loyal to a virtual skin is crazy ngl, but same lol

[tight iron]

idk my skin is like my identity at this point

[barren zephyr]

damn

[tight iron]

people know me by my skin so 🤷‍♂️

[barren zephyr]

the stego got killed easily lol btw, great fight

[tight iron]

lolz

thank you

stego life

[barren zephyr]

it was like a movie

[tight iron]

super glad you enjoyed it lol

a spectacle for the entirety of highlands

however it results in death 100% of the time 💀

[barren zephyr]

lol

it was still funny that y'all didnt notice me

[tight iron]

oh well

a stego is a stego

cant really take your eyes off of him 🤷‍♂️

[barren zephyr]

it was like a top tier heist

[tight iron]

murdur

[barren zephyr]

im gonna see if i can spot myself in the video lol

[tight iron]

okius

[barren zephyr]

for the lolz

[tight iron]

lemem show you smth funni in dms

[barren zephyr]

i cant spot myself cuz of the video quality

[urban flax]

@dusky fjord Hordetesting is not QA
The purpose is to test the upcoming update in actual game conditions

[quiet flax]

WHATS DIFF FROM SPIRO AND ENVIRMA

[vocal gazelle]

Spiro and gateway are both maps. Evrima is the beta version of the game that both maps are on

[icy lion]

Evrima only has Gateway

[vocal gazelle]

Isn’t spiro still technically on evrima or is it a diff branch?

[icy lion]

It's a separate branch

[vocal gazelle]

Oh whoops then. Lol

[proud coral]

My Herrera has been growing on just carbs

[quiet flax]

IS THERE A MODE TO PLAY AS HUMAN

So does spiro have anything different to play and like vs playin i guess just legacy?

[icy lion]

Some unofficial servers have humans enabled, but they're very bare and I'm not sure which servers have them available right now

[proud coral]

Avoid Spiro like the plague

[icy lion]

The Spiro branch has an old verson of evrima. I don't think it even has any servers running on it

[quiet flax]

is there a version to play as human

[icy lion]

Evrima, some unofficial servers might have them enabled

[formal kayak]

#general-feedback message
Now while this would be nice to have as a toggle
The tap to sprint is very helpful for people like me who struggle with joint pain, especially in the hands

I just processed it further, an option would be nice

[winter void]

i dont get it tbh.. on me its a quick tap to toggle and anotherone to stop and i also can hold it and release it. both was working.

[radiant comet]

what happend

dibble is coming?

[winter void]

check annoucement

smal update for some stuff not much to mention as it seems

[rough wind]

#general-feedback message
Its more of a performance issue right now
smaller ai may be added in the future if they can optimize them enough

[winter void]

well it did run pretty well with 140 players and small ai could come within that pretty fast ig. Just make it spawn more dependend on the players. Ai in an area with noone around surely is wasted performance 😄

[hidden mist]

The Isle already becomes very CPU intensive in areas with a lot of bodies (i.e. any long-standing migration zone), so servers with 150 player count kinda scare me, ngl. AIs at least are almost always eaten completely, hence don’t really impact the fps, but those meat chunks and bone carcasses…

Or did the developers talk about server optimization as a latency issue (caused by AIs)? Then I’m discussing about the ill-timed thing, probably.

[rough wind]

devs said server performance is heavily impacted by the ai

dont know any specifics about it though

i assume its a latency issue

[hidden mist]

I see, I see…

By the way, has anyone noticed that kicking (e.g. as a Tenonto) a side-pouncing Omniraptor doesn’t actually stun it to the ground? Every time I did that they just seemed to take little damage, hiss and successfully dismount afterwards. Perhaps it’s somehow related to the “If you hit tail first and the body secondarily — damage will only be applied to the tail” problem the devs discussed not long time ago. Maybe I wasn’t kicking good enough 🧐 I simply want to make a feedback about it, but need to hear about others’ experience…

[icy lion]

@junior ether Rex is being worked on to release after diablo, and it's getting a special ability

[junior ether]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-gif-4941905585572261877

[rough wind]

#general-feedback message
That is intentional I believe

[rough wind]

#general-feedback message
the domes are still to be determined about whats inside them
I think the plan right now is for them to contain different environments such as redwood forest or snow biomes

aviary could be a good idea though

[waxen stratus]

not sure if #general-feedback is the right place to post, so im posting here first. but i just joined and upon reading the rules i noticed one of the hyperlinks says no access, that's the report. i assume that's supposed to be visible to new people.

@icy lion

[icy lion]

That'd be a @crystal trail subject

[waxen stratus]

awesome, ty

[rocky raptor]

Soooo we slowed down the Deino and made the water clear af so there is no more ambushing?

[limber hull]

They cleared up the waters so deino could see better underwater, and deino's size decrease was shown off ages before this update. They wanted to make deino harder to grow to make adults more rare and overall frightening

[heavy quartz]

-364,601.223, 343,117.162, 39,475.805

got stuck at this rock ya fall right in

[rocky raptor]

no i mean reg swimming speed was decreased 5-10%

how do deinos eat if you can see through the water lmao

[urban flax]

How does any carnivore eat if you can see through air

[rocky raptor]

they can RUN XD on land lmao do you have anything educated to add instead of trolling

[limber hull]

And deinos can SWIM XD underwater

[rocky raptor]

ambush predator not a komodo dragon

[rocky raptor]

cool story bro,

[feral charm]

Is anyone experiencing huge performance loss this update?

[urban flax]

Deino players when there is counterplay against their main :

[rocky raptor]

Troll when they just want to feel included

[limber hull]

Deino got the ability to drown stegos, more spawnpoints, clearer vision underwater and so on, it literally got tons of good stufff

I'm going to test if deino really is slower now

[rocky raptor]

reg swimming not sprinting is slow af

[limber hull]

Also, disagreeing isn't trolling, Bubulu isn't trolling lol

[rocky raptor]

he wasnt disagreeing lol

[urban flax]

I am

[limber hull]

he was

[rocky raptor]

Deino players when there is counterplay against their main : << thats not a disagreement, thats litterally nothing lmao

[limber hull]

Legit just went onto my server to test. Deino's speed is pretty much unchanged

[rocky raptor]

whats the details on his disagreement lol

[limber hull]

At least, the adult variant is entirely unchanged

[urban flax]

There's a secret meaning to that sentence

[rocky raptor]

they fixed the spawn point that they broke you mean? out underwater vision was perfect and realistic, and the ability to drown stegos shouldve already been implimented

[limber hull]

The underwater vision before literally left deinos blind underwater lol

[urban flax]

Here is my opinion :
Deino is and was the most OP creature in the game since its release, and still very much is. It shouldn't have been added at all because of its fundamentally flawed playstyle, or if it HAD to be added, it should have been much later.
I couldn't care less about its viability, as it's got so many perks and unique abilities that it's pretty much impossible to make it unviable unless you make it NOT deino anymore. Besides, the less deinos there are on a server in any given time, the more enjoyable the game is for every other creature.

So the fact water became clear enough (if that's even true) so that you can see a deino before you are in its mouth is a good change

[rocky raptor]

they will change the deino grow time to 12 hours and people like babulblu would call that fair lol

[urban flax]

Still wouldn't be fair as deino is inherently unfair

[queen badger]

I disagree - it's nerve-wracking when you get water now. Lurking crocs add to the tension of the game, and it's more interesting than the way it was in legacy

[rocky raptor]

How
deinos are stricly condemmed to the water so whats the issue?

STEGO is by far the most OP dino in the game

[urban flax]

Scare factor comes from uncertainty
There is no scary factor when you KNOW there will be a deino in the water because 50% of the server is deino like it was on Spiro

[urban flax]

now that's trolling

[limber hull]

LMAO man's gotta be trolling to say stego's the most OP

[rocky raptor]

its got one of the highest health pools

[urban flax]

The issue is everyone has to go to water every so often

[urban flax]

Guess who has the highest ?

[limber hull]

deino has more

[rocky raptor]

does more damage with the tail than deino bite

[urban flax]

Guess who has functionally higher damage ?

[rocky raptor]

im proving these stats on youtube if anyone wants to partake?

[limber hull]

Guess who has an effective max damage of 6000, vs the effective max damage of 1250 (not including headshots)

[urban flax]

Or right I was still thinking 4000, forgot deino got buffed in that regard

[limber hull]

Deino over QUADRUPLES stego's maximum effective damage

[rocky raptor]

also stegos have more range on their attacks

[limber hull]

Not true. Deino's lunge sends it MUCH further forward, allowing for far greater range

[rocky raptor]

then how does a stego easily take 2 deinos in a 1v2?

[urban flax]

Easy
The deinos are terrible players

[desert arch]

If the deinos suck sure

[rocky raptor]

does less dps (damage per sec for the uneducated)

[limber hull]

Because deinos LOVE to fight stegos on land, and also suck in combat a lot of time. Deinos, obviously, are meant to hunt in water, so going onto land to fight a land creature is not ending well for it

[desert arch]

A 1v2 is definetly doable, even did it myself, even though I suck as deino

[limber hull]

I suppose, but its burst far makes up for it. If you can do 6000 damage in one attack, it really doesn't matter

[desert arch]

Also lets just not forget even a 1v1 is winnable now, if the stego messes up and swims even for 1 second, its dead

[rocky raptor]

ill post the video, that shows how many tail swings to kill a deino, vs how many bites to kill a stego, are we taking bets>

[urban flax]

It's funny cuz gators on land lose to a human with a stick

[urban flax]

The strength a playable doesn't rely only on its ability to 1v1 something it's not supposed to be trying to fight

[rocky raptor]

show me this video, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard

[desert arch]

Stego needs 5 headshot swings to kill a deino
Deino needs 6 headshot bites to kill a stego, and can instantly kill it with lunge

[limber hull]

You haven't seen videos of gators getting literally beaten by sticks? There's tons of them

[urban flax]

idk, search "florida" you'll get tons of examples

[rocky raptor]

show me the example

[urban flax]

Although I'm assuming here, because in the video I'm thinking of the guy is using a tong, not a stick
But I think a stick would be at least as effective as a tong

[limber hull]

Animals in duress rules often apply to those vids, so search yourself

[urban flax]

What does it even matter

[rocky raptor]

Here is an example of 2 stegos with no fear of the water.... can anyonoe guess why that is?

[limber hull]

because you're a juvi deino and they can walk away and aren't stupid enough to go for a dip

[rocky raptor]

honestly now that im thinging of it in my 250 hours stegos are the only playable that as an adlult they have no fear of sitting in the water even to camp a body they cannot eat, the ONLY playable

[limber hull]

just wait for rex and trike to not only not fear the water, but swim in to catch deinos lol

[rocky raptor]

they dont know whats out in the water, uncertanty was the word used correct?

[rocky raptor]

Not if the deino gets the bone fracture mechanic,

[limber hull]

which it likely will not because it doesn't need it

[urban flax]

Sure, buff the overperforming playable again

[rocky raptor]

That would be why it would need it, prevent trolling

like that

[limber hull]

It can also dive

[rocky raptor]

im not going on land stay tf out the water,

why would a trike swim to hunt a deino it cant eat, only reason is because they have no fear to

[limber hull]

because it is much larger than deino

[desert arch]

Maybe it has juveniles its trying to protect

[rocky raptor]

so add bone fracture and call it even

[urban flax]

why

[rocky raptor]

then keep your child safe dont tell it to play on the highway wtf lol

[urban flax]

What warrants the most oppressive playable in the game to ALSO have the upper hand in a 1v1 against any apex

[rocky raptor]

as a deturrent nothing more

[urban flax]

Because you really believe that won't allow deinos to go on rex killing sprees ?

[limber hull]

it has bleed and damage to deter

[grizzled umbra]

I love the new changes listed in dev blog!! ❤️ I hope everything works as they should!

[rocky raptor]

not to kill are you even being open minded to this convo

[limber hull]

They will USE IT to kill

[urban flax]

Pachy seems to be of the same opinion as me on this

[desert arch]

Everything has to drink tho lol

[rocky raptor]

bleed rarely kills after legacy unless you are in a pack which is RARE for deinos to work together anymore

[grizzled umbra]

Thank you devs for improving the game and actually listening to players! ❤️

[desert arch]

It WILL have to fo to the "highway"

[queen badger]

Oh man - I only just realised! Carno had Herra and Dilo added to their diets! It used to be that to get bars you HAD to find intestines (or a dead galli somewhere), now you can eat one of the million dilos that every server has!

[rocky raptor]

as a fg rex you shouldnt have the confidence to go into the river and start hunting deinos because you are bored and you can, the thought, do i really want a broken leg for this should be more realistic

[grizzled umbra]

Yep!!

[rocky raptor]

they just erased every dino youve grown

[limber hull]

thats how updates work buddy

thats not new

[grizzled umbra]

Sort of comes with the update.

[queen badger]

Have the diets of any other dinos changed?

[limber hull]

Pretty much every diet has changed

[rocky raptor]

dayz dont do that so thats not how updates work, thats how their janky updates work

[limber hull]

Omni also can eat herrera and dilo now

[grizzled umbra]

I dont remember specifics. So much new in the update 😄

[limber hull]

DayZ is not The Isle

[grizzled umbra]

Alot has to be changed yeah, since dilo and herra were indeed added to some diets.

[rocky raptor]

they should fix that with their next update, prob the best feedback right there

[grizzled umbra]

To make it even, they probably had to redo alot of the diets.

[limber hull]

They did indeed

[queen badger]

Well - I like the change to carno very much. It used to be a real mission trying to get bars.

[grizzled umbra]

Back to basics eh! 😄 Have to re-learn to survive with the dinos now 😄

[limber hull]

Cera can now eat dilo
Carno and omni can now eat herrera and dilo
Troodon can now eat herrera
Dilo can now eat herrera (as well as having its entire diet effectively reworked)
Herrera got its diet entirely reworked too

[grizzled umbra]

Awesome!

[crimson lintel]

#general-feedback message or even a slider

[formal kayak]

You mean wiping dinos in major updates..?
It’s necessary to prevent corruption
Would you rather have your dinos wiped (something you can easily regrow) or have your entire game break because they tried to preserve them

[slate zenith]

@tawny comet

That was quite literally a part of the update lol

[sand kettle]

what happened to the deinosochus did they nerf its size is it no long 8 tons? i noticed i spawned at 44kg

[tight iron]

it grows slower now

[low shoal]

sspawn smaller and slower, grow slower

good luck trying to get elite fish as baby

[normal lotus]

It just grows slower

[limber hull]

It's smaller at spawn, but still 8 tons as adult

[sand kettle]

aye thanks

[sand kettle]

i know man life is hard

[low shoal]

i dont really mind it, my biggest concern is taking away our eerie quietness/ambushing under water

[sand kettle]

i dont like the spalsh sound

the water is now clearer and dinos can see you

[low shoal]

agreed

I would like to see how a dino sees us from lets say a river bank

bc I can see myself a lot easier now, so wonder if its the same for them

[sand kettle]

i was under shallow water resting and a cera rushed at me he can see me from far away i guess

[low shoal]

yes water access and north lake you can see right thru but thats fine, thats a clear lake. Murky rivers tho, I would like to know what they see

[sand kettle]

same here

[low shoal]

where were you?

[sand kettle]

north lake

[low shoal]

yea thats fine to me tbh

lakes can be clear as day I dont mind

ponds/rivers/swamps no bueno

[sand kettle]

well see how it goes , yup i agree with you im still trying it out

[low shoal]

yessir we shall

[formal kayak]

#general-feedback message
@radiant nest missed by only you all of us

(Though they do look nice I do admit.)

[radiant nest]

They felt really tropical, and they were one of the things I thought looked specifically really good when gateway was released

[formal kayak]

They do look really nice, but Imma be honest
I didn’t notice they were missing, but then again I don’t look at plants that often

[radiant nest]

Yeah that’s generally how it is

[rocky raptor]

Why didn’t dilo get added to deino Diet?

[obsidian mural]

can any1 check out my suggetion thing i belive u guys will like it

[meager dirge]

Is audio stuttering worse on herrera? It kinda seems like it..

[rotund lake]

so why now server are plagued of carnos? nothing else than carnos

[limber hull]

carno haha

[midnight heath]

Didn't carno get better //s for it's diet? So it's easier to grow now (?)

[limber hull]

you believed incorrectly

[formal kayak]

Would you perhaps like this idea?

#general-feedback message

[limber hull]

i do not like the "breaking up" thing and believe the downside should be a semi-notable cooldown and having to use broadcast. I also do not believe it should be species specific, as animals like carno would have less use compared to say, a troo or omni

[formal kayak]

Interesting.. I like that version as well
And I changed my mind halfway through with species specific as I realised almost any species could and should be able to use it, I just failed to remember to go back and change it

[toxic matrix]

migration zones feels underwhelming...take a 30min walk from one to another only to be met with 1 type of food max 2

[sand ridge]

Hot take: Nighttime is too long.

Thoughts?

[tight iron]

uhhhhhhhhh night time is pretty short

it's 1/3rd

[sand ridge]

Feels like so long sometimes I don’t know why..

[tawny comet]

Where is all the Ai´s ?

[fierce valley]

so where is all the action now ?

[languid island]

Ill try to make a more constructive comment. I'm new, it looks verry promising and i dont get how i never heard of it before randomly seing a video on youtube. Your player base should be much bigger, beside pple liking survival games it can talk to a lot of annimals and nature lovers. I dont understand how this last patch killed all the ai spawn, make new bugs with picking up food, sound bugs, and some new glitching areas in the main servers and not in the test servers. But the ai spawn should be hight priority now, as i read a lot about your community getting angryhungry. Best wishes for players and devs

[solid belfry]

Why do I have to play at 50% resolution to get more than 30 fps now. Last update ran fine for me

[dark nymph]

Guys did they nerf ceras charge bite? The discussion channel is pretty useless when it comes to answering questions

[winter void]

as far as i know ig actually got kinda buffed haveing more time to hold it.
but tbh i havent felt any difference at all to cera besides being mocked and S-dieted on by literally any herbie since horde 😄

[dark nymph]

So it still does flat out 300 damage at max charge?

[winter void]

as far as i know yes and 500 headbite, if i remember right.
but not 100% sure and ye i had the feel of being nerfed as well on cera during horde a lot. may just some small changes to others felt heavier i dunno ;-;

[barren zephyr]

I'm not sure why the alt bite would be the same damage amount as the charged bite. If anything the alt bite would make more sense to equal the same amount as a normal bite since all you're doing is lunging forward while biting

[boreal nymph]

Fullscreen shadows still havent been fixed - 2k resolution setting on a 4k monitor causes shadow doubling makes it twice as dark - going into windowed mode relieves that

[tight iron]

that must be a bug

thye would've posted a patch note regarding it if it wasn't

[barren zephyr]

Agreed, I don't see why a "hold to jump" mechanic should be unique to hypsi, it's not necessarily an interesting or innovative mechanic so why make it exclusive

[kind summit]

This game just can't seem to control its 'Fatal Error' crash rate then I have to wait in another 25 person queue for the 4th time in 2 hours

[spice lark]

Starved as PT looking for food aggressively the whole time twice(did find some fish, but NOWHERE near enough to stay alive)

[vague shore]

Is anyone getting worse fps than before with the new update? I’ve dropped about 30 frames

[lunar star]

**AI and Meat by Water: **Could AI approach food near water edges for better strategy and realism?
**Increase AI Presence: **More AI dinos needed. Maybe increase spawns dynamically based on player numbers?
**Underwater Night Vision: **Night vision underwater is just pitch black. Possible to restore to previous clarity?
**Catching Elite Fish: **Elite fish are too fast to catch. Perhaps adjust their speed or introduce catching aids?
**AI Reaction to Deinosuchus: **AI flees from water edges when Deinosuchus approaches. Can this be moderated to not fully avoid but be cautious?
**Weather Control: **Lots of rain and storms. Possible to add server options to adjust weather frequency?
Night Brightness: Nights are too dark. Could ambient light levels be slightly increased for better visibility?
**Longer Day Cycles: **Days feel short. Could we extend day length? Always feels like Night.
**Water Reflection Glitch: **Intense / pulsing water since last update. Graphical bug?

[latent olive]

@mystic parcel are you dropping the organs to hold E on

because swallowing them results in very little nutrition, but more food

[queen badger]

I have not seen, heard, or otherwise come across a single boar since the update

Are there no longer boar on Gateway?

[mystic parcel]

nope dropping onto the floor

[static crystal]

im also noticing a massive lack of schooling fish

[mystic parcel]

yea im not seeing any ai

[static crystal]

im seeing alot of frogs deer and turtles. some catfish. but no schooling fish or boars

[mystic parcel]

where do u see deer? its dead af for me

[queen badger]

To be clear - I've found deer. Including the new deer model with antlers. I've come across frogs. But has anybody found a boar at all since the new update?

[static crystal]

the new deer does look good

[rancid musk]

what are we supposed to do with unstuck when it happens in a populated area...

[midnight heath]

Tell me you've don't play stego without telling me you don't play stego. #general-feedback message

[rocky raptor]

Why did they make it impossible to get to the SW river as a Deino?

[teal fulcrum]

so that the casuals can live in peace. gameplay on deino made impossible, because many casuals The Isle really wanted to do so

[rocky raptor]

what does that even mean?

[teal fulcrum]

players have been asking for a nerf deino for a long time and got it. inability to get into the river SW including

[rocky raptor]

how is that a nerf and what was everyone crying about?

[teal fulcrum]

fact that deino used to be able to get to the SW river with 10% growth and now he can't is exactly a nerf

[limber hull]

the devs wanted to make deino harder, because they want apex predators to be extremely difficult

Dondi has been talking about it for AGES

Well before the change was added this patch

[rocky raptor]

its hard enough with heavy cannis

[teal fulcrum]

not being able to hunt because you can hear it from underwater is not about difficulty. neither is the fact that now the deino cannot reach the most important rivers on the map

[urban flax]

Cannibalism makes deino easier to play

[rocky raptor]

playing as a dieno now feels like playing as a minority in america, now we are imprisoned to the river of cannis lol

[limber hull]

^

Cannibalism has been one of deino's best perks for ages now

[limber hull]

what

[rocky raptor]

if your personallity is a douche

cool we get new spawns but sucks we cant explore because peopke cried about being eaten

[teal fulcrum]

apparently I should be thankful that the casuals didn't cry about deino's lunge removal

[rocky raptor]

wtf is casuals

[teal fulcrum]

not pvp-players

[rocky raptor]

that was the best part of sw river for deino

[limber hull]

this isnt a competitive game lmao, what is your obsession with casuals

[teal fulcrum]

who are actively trying to turn the game into a dinosaur walking simulator

[teal fulcrum]

not competitive, I'm not arguing. it's just funny to see a strong nerf to the very dino everyone was complaining about

[limber hull]

i mean... people were probably complaining for a reason if its that universal?

[teal fulcrum]

people complained about deino grabbing them out of the water, lmao

[limber hull]

i've seen lots of combat players also dislike deino's overpowered state, so idk why its a casual thing

[static crystal]

its only because deino is the apex right now. only matched by stego. and i disagree that its not competitive. it is. they are causing it to be with migration for "more engagements". this system causes competition by making people cross paths. but theres no upside for prey to do it unless they up the stamina pool to cause chases. stamina it too limited to create situations where a prey would want to pester a predator. or for a predator to leave their comfort zone

[urban flax]

Anyone who is not a deino main is a casual

[limber hull]

the game is first and foremost survival, not PvP. PvP has a strong place in survival, that much is true, but the game's priority is not only PvP

[static crystal]

then stamina should be priority rather than engagements. extra stamina causes engagements because people will believe they can either get away or stick in a fight. migration annoys people because its hard enough to travel through the map without resting 2x as long as you run. then have to possibly run away cause you have to cross paths

[limber hull]

stamina is fine atm tbh, i dont think it needs more stuff

[static crystal]

just saying it will cause more, longer chases larger groups working to outsmart. than just sprints from a bush or the water.

[torpid rock]

So did they change seenig for gators ? Made a gator and I cant see anything underwater cant even see fish its so dark and nightvison doesnt work either? jc.

[static crystal]

nightvision is less. but daytime water is pretty clear from what ive seen

[torpid rock]

Yeah not for me I joinee it was complete daylight and you cant see past 5 feet of water...very weird before i could see everythign stick stone food thats why i was asking it makes it almost unlpayable as that character...

[static crystal]

for babies the rivers seem a dark brown. but gets better as you grow

[urban flax]

@full pewter Why is none of them omnivore

[full pewter]

Oh oops, meant to put that in Ava

Personally I’d give that just to Ava and nothing else

[urban flax]

maybe Styraco too

[full pewter]

Why am I more ok with Styraco being omnivorus than Diablo:/

[limber hull]

i am currently looking at a deino in that very river so idk what you're on about

[teal fulcrum]

cool. only the point was that I used to come to that river at 10% growth, which is now impossible

[limber hull]

but deinos can get there

so clearly it isnt impossible

[teal fulcrum]

i don't deny it. hopefully people will share the method later. no one made it yesterday

[silent tundra]

Maybe already mentioned but is anyone noticing the swimming being heard above water even when below water? Is it broken at the moment or?

[teal fulcrum]

i'd also like to know if it's a bug or if we can forget about the deino

[lunar sedge]

Deino on Deino is fine. When it's fair. What is not fair is when you get one douchcanoe deciding that they don't want to share THE ENTIRE LAKE/RIVER SYSTEM and activally going around killing every deino in sight.

[ornate cove]

is every dino i grew really gone now after the update?

[lunar sedge]

Yes. They purged the servers.

[desert arch]

@half kraken Everyone got their dinos wiped across all servers, this happens every major update to avoid corruption.

[half kraken]

Ohh, I see. Alright, thank you!

[fathom thicket]

anyone else noticing the deinos swimming is kinda glitchy now when holding shift. I seem to cut in and out of the sprint animation most of the time now..

[fallen pebble]

Mines SUPER LOUD now, whether im holding shift or not. I mean like it sounds as if a shark is THRASHING. I'd say my slow swims sound is now LOUDER than my lunge.

[midnight heath]

Not sure what SW river is but it is possible to make it to the SP river.

[proud coral]

@fuzzy Waxpalms are the trees (okay I guess the ping just won't work)

[rocky raptor]

It’s the only river in the south west Lmao

[rocky raptor]

Before the update it was, it is not possible Now

[rocky raptor]

I noticed that too

[rocky raptor]

That’s why it was nice to be able to travel to other water holes, just to chill and not worry about that

[desert arch]

It is possible, one of my friends managed to do it

He was barely alive when he got to the river, but he lived

[limber hull]

I watched deinos get there lol

[lapis swallow]

if you get there as a deino, you are basically set for live

[desert arch]

Yeah, therr arent any 100% safe drink spots at south plains

[lapis swallow]

and southplains always has players and food

[rocky raptor]

There’s 3 ponds

[rocky raptor]

Since the update? I’ve taken the same route as I did every time before the update without an issue, now you die of thirst

[limber hull]

except people have clearly made it

considering i've seen people vibing over there like nothing is wrong, i guess it boils down to a skill issue lmao

[desert arch]

Only 1 is close to south plains iirc and that one is easily reachable by deinos

[desert arch]

Yeah you need to be above 50% grown or else you wont make it cuz ur too slow

Also must be above 50% food as well

[midnight heath]

This and the hordetest are the same, it's just live now. It is possible, I stayed there and saw many dead deinos who tried to do the same. It took maybe 2 tries before I actually made it.

[midnight heath]

This is why I didn't make it the first 2 times, I didn't realize how slow you are.

By the time I made it to the pond, not even the river I was on 4th blood-screen and basically 1-tap but alive. Healed and walked my way to the river just fine.

[rocky raptor]

Since the update dropped?

[limber hull]

Yes

[midnight heath]

Yes

I was one of those people 🧍

[limber hull]

I literally spent all of today chasing a southern plains deino around as troodon lmao

idk where he was going but he loved to run around

[midnight heath]

It's honestly not that worth it, the little bottom half where people drink is insanely shallow and if you grab/run out of stam they'll get away.

The top half I got some good grabs on people thinking the fall was safe for whatever reason but most people don't drink at it. Grabbed overly aggro tenos chasing things or ceras squabbling but it wasn't that fruitful.

Your biggest take-away is the elite fish being abundant and having a fairly low likelihood of getting cannibalized once you're FG so long as no one else logs in and gets the drop on you; which I never had happen. I just killed smaller deinos who made the journey.

It's where I saw these cuties too

[undone forge]

ow to ruck up a game, NO AI, Fatal error crashes every single 20-10 -30 minute, "wants bigger server 150ppl, without carnivore food, ye people gonna survive and enjoy when you have to restart 30 time to get a 30 min grow XD "

[wild fable]

Why are you upset about the no ai servers? They’re literally a choice

[undone forge]

I mean the normal server

Eu2 to be specific, 5 hour game time found 1 deer

[wild fable]

Where are you on the map?

[undone forge]

South plains, northern jungle, east plains, breach

[wild fable]

Does this server not allow swearing? Lmao my message got deleted

[wild fable]

Tbh not sure what to say, I’ve never had that much trouble with ai, they seem to work better on the northern side of the map. But I’ll check the update more in a min myself. Wouldn’t be surprised if ai didn’t work randomly.

[undone forge]

Ai is horrible em

[chilly ermine]

#general-feedback message I made it there yesterday @warm terrace

[desert arch]

#announcements message "Due to the nature of the patch, progress will be wiped." @ornate cove

[barren zephyr]

@ornate cove they did warn us of a server wipe for all creatures

[tight iron]

#general-feedback message 45 seconds of pouncing is not too op

it is the way it's supposed to kill smh

[desert arch]

Also uhh, if you let an omni stay on you for 45 SECONDS you kinda deserve it...

[tight iron]

^^

go to a tree or smth

[desert arch]

Thats more than enough time to react lol

[tight iron]

yes

and if you got caught in the middle of a plain or smth, well, rip ig

well played raptors enjoy your meal 🤷‍♂️

[limber hull]

tbf, your options are

A: Buck (waste all your stam)
B: FInd a tree/rock (doesn't work if in plains or getting backpounced)
C: Let it happen (you die fast)

Lose/lose/lose imho

[tight iron]

you can get him off while being backpounced tho

might not be as easy but it can be done without issues

and if you get caught in plains, well, honestly bro you had enough time to just run to a surface

plains with no bushes, no ambush place, you see raptors coming from a kilometer away, just go to a surface

sure, buck might be ass right now but there's more feasible options

for example knowing what's around you 👍

[restive hatch]

Does anyone know what’s going on with the new AI? I literally have not been able to find a single AI creature since the update, no goats, no deer, and no boar. Did they change the sounds they make or the system?

[toxic terrace]

This is the new normal. Less AI and encouraging to hunt your own food off players

[solid belfry]

I actually agree with this I feel raptor pack is intended to have this design and it's fine. If wrong place, wrong time, wrong dino, then it's a rip. Just how it is

[tight iron]

indeed

[restive hatch]

That’s a horrible idea. How the hell are we supposed to grow solo then? Removing the AI removes food sources and makes carnivores far less enjoyable

[barren zephyr]

It’s not hard to grow without Ai if you know how to play your cards

Personally I don’t think you should be this dependant for your entire carnivore play through/session,

[winter void]

aint that hard without thats true.
but being camped by overzised raptorpacks refuseing to leave spawn location cause "nom nom ez food" aint fun either.
And no, as a cera... you cant "just run away".. cursed to die forever ..
and with only 2 spawns you cant "just spawn somewhere else" since both get camped... so beipi it is .. oh a croc that wont leave as well .. 😄

[tight iron]

where do you typically spawn

[winter void]

well either south plains or northern jungle.
at the moment its kinda quiet but most of the time plains is raptor territory killing wahtever is around because its fun, who needs food then..
and jungle is next to a sanctuary which makes a lot of traffic causing another big deathmatch.
was always a big fan of south plains but thats just not even worth trying anymore (most of the time) since people just wanna hang around and kill everything on sight.. thats what gets me to the question why crocs being the most op unit ever atm to get more spawns then the alltime bullied cera xD

Ngl ima go back to 150players no Ai since ai wont spawn on solos anyways 😄
there at least ceras got better chances after may got out of deathpit spawns

[tight iron]

you can do this: spawn, get diet, get away from there, sit in a bush for a good while and then, when you need it again (around 30% food), you'll be big enough to fend off 1-2 raptors

[winter void]

"spawn, get diet, get away" - theres the problem, where do you expect to get the diet from ? 😄
from the corpses that are camped ? 😄
most time i try to get at least some food, like rotten/bones (damn i love being a cera) and get the hell outta there. Problem .. cera eats louder than grown dinos walk 😄
if i could get a "random button" to spawn SOMEWHERE on the map, i would use it every time, but nope 😄
spawnd now north fighting 2 dilos bigger than me (ty body buff) killing one get some meal and run off as long as the other recovers .. thats a lucky start tbh 😄

[tight iron]

oh, the corpses are camped?

[winter void]

as i ran off raptors already running towards that location .. so ye they pretty much camp around the spawns 😄

[tight iron]

ohh yeah that makes a lot of sense

gotta rely on luck then i guess...

[winter void]

you dont say 😄
ye and all that on spawn locations pretty annoying 😄

[tight iron]

rip

[winter void]

yepp 😄

[onyx belfry]

Anybody else hate the nightvision change for deinosuchus? I can't see anything in rivers or lakes anymore at night.

[latent olive]

@modest elbow Utahraptor was changed to Omniraptor because Omni is a fictional species specifically for the game

also the devs intend on making an accurate, realistic utahraptor at some point

there’s a lot of things that are/will be in this game that were never real either

[umbral skiff]

My quick thoughts on reducing AI, the benefits only - Increases the likelihood of people choosing Herbs over time will increase a lot, Carnivores will have to spread out looking for those same Herbs, less immovable hotspots (short term hotspots will pop up with migrations)

[green notch]

As long as they can figure out server performance and keep it 150 pop its fine without AI

[chilly ermine]

Not a fan of it, I assume the green tint may help with people who were having epileptic/vision triggers. I don’t like how far you can see in lakes now.

[onyx belfry]

Can't see squat, its arguably worse than before. I have epilepsy myself and the old method didn't effect me. actually being that green tint actually makes it harder for me to see since im color blind as well.

Personally I think that since deinos are the only ones underwater all their lives they should be able to see much farther in lakes than they currently do.

[chilly ermine]

@split estuary you can get to other lakes/ponds still. You have to change your ‘strategy’ of how and when to do it. But it’s possible.

[onyx belfry]

Well its virtually impossible to get to north east lake if you start out in a different lake. The area in the river with the giant waterfall before the lake you can't get up the log and cross like you could before. Now you die of dehydration before you even reach the wall to get to the north side of the river.

[chilly ermine]

Good point, it just makes it harder to sneak around. On another note, I kinda like that you can hear water movement from deinos, I don’t think it sounds correct, too much surface noise imo, but hearing a full bite sound underneath is back, not sure if that’s intention, but it’s unrealistic and stupid imo.

[chilly ermine]

What growth size were you?

[onyx belfry]

9%

with a perfect diet

[static crystal]

it gets much better

[onyx belfry]

tried around 25% aswell

[static crystal]

full size can see outlines for miles

[chilly ermine]

I think that’s just it, we need more size (in the teens) for speed

[brave kelp]

do ai spawn in the na servers yet or still broken?

[onyx belfry]

well its counter intuitive, because the bigger you get the more stamina you sap

[static crystal]

they spawn but its rare. was just there

[chilly ermine]

Deino spawns smaller now, so have to wait till you get more speed

[onyx belfry]

you only gain 2km by the time your 20% and that difference sucks. You run out of stam after running for like 20 seconds. and then if you sit to get close to 100% stam back you drain all your water doing it.

[chilly ermine]

Yes, but you have to balance running till and walking. I’m not a fan of the faster water drain, but it will make those spots all the more better secure

[onyx belfry]

Yeah but what im saying is you literally can't make it to 2 spots now no matter how well you plan

east lake is impossible. and if you spawn somewhere other than north east lake. You can't get there either bcause of the long detour you now have to take. Because the river is sheer cliffs.

[chilly ermine]

I hear you. I’ll have to try it. I’m about to try for south river from the now north. I made it from swamp.

[onyx belfry]

hope you dont die leaving the north lake.

that waterfall near the giant wall is a huge delay now because you can't get across into the water through the log anymore

[chilly ermine]

I prob will but it’s in the name of science

[onyx belfry]

ill put it this way

I was in the lake before the giant waterfall

river i mean, I went up the side that was closest to the wall. I couldn't even make it to the wall before I died of dehydration.

If you can find a way thats great, I just know that the 3 times ive tried since patch it wasnt working.

[chilly ermine]

Probably the intent then

[onyx belfry]

bad intent if they limit what was already a species limited to only waterways which there aren't that many of.

[rocky raptor]

Same, I don’t mind the clear water during the day but the vision at night isn’t much fun, giving deino further underwater capabilities is kinda pointless when all that’s there is fish, and only one fish technically gives you diet.

[rocky raptor]

Don’t drain the Stam all the way, only a quarter of your stam, then you’ll gain it back while walking

[chilly ermine]

Yup, conservation

[rocky raptor]

Once you get past a quarter then you won’t regain stamina while walking

[languid dagger]

I don't think I should be running 100-150 fps, then dropping to 30-40 just because I'm close to a few other players.

[chilly ermine]

unless your FPS is on their diet

[languid dagger]

that's true

unfortunately I believe everyones FPS is on their diet. 4090 doesn't compare to their insatiable hunger

[lunar star]

Yep I caught an elite fish dropped it and it was night and I couldnt find it right in front of me. pitch black...

[lunar star]

I let north lake at 70% and made it to the swamp, but it was risky,,

[rocky raptor]

But you can spawn in the swamp?

[rocky raptor]

The Elite fish are way to fast, fresh spawn deino really struugles to catch, like this things are on crack, worse than the deer imo.

[dry falcon]

@dusk gyro its implemented

[dusk gyro]

Really? how can i see?

[dry falcon]

if you have a dino on a server and then you log out, you can click the server once and it displays your dino on the right

[midnight heath]

It looks like this

When you click on the server, you'll see it off to the side.

[dusk gyro]

Thank you, I didn't realise they added it 🙂

[dry falcon]

yea

[midnight heath]

I know it's not always up-to-date but it's nice

[dry falcon]

i remember first playing the game and having to create a list of all the dinos that i somewhat succeeded with

because i couldn't remember which server

[languid island]

I keep dying over and over and over to packs, i have to hunt because no ai. Cant play solo in this game no more

They had to change everything 3 days after i buy the game, i m so angry

[feral rover]

wait theres no ai?

[languid island]

verry low numbers

[split estuary]

Soo.. You're saying it's possible from Swamps to the South Pond and then from there into South River? Do You recommend growth that would be perfect for that? I know that 25% crocs run the fastest but stamina loss is also bigger... I'm also saving 60% of my stam so it recovers when walking..

[lapis swallow]

@cursive wave cannibalism does not help against overpopulations

[cursive wave]

It do because Carnos could kill little one for food then they Player an Other dino
I mean prob More people Play then as a herbivore

[lapis swallow]

imagine if you hunt something, one of your members dies and you fail the hunt. what happens?

[cursive wave]

They spawn again but prob as Other kind

[limber hull]

no

instead of failing the hunt because you lost members, you eat the lost member and get a far better diet

cannibalism on carno lead to the carnopocalypse

[cursive wave]

If u read it right U see that only little one get canibalise

[lapis swallow]

still a bad idea

then you get rewarded as small guys if you fail a hunt

[limber hull]

what's stopping them from cannibalising big ones, exactly?

[cursive wave]

That they don't become a debuff when they eat little ones but if they a bigger them they become muscle spams if they eating one adult or smth

[limber hull]

that doesn't make any sense tho

what makes them magically toxic after a random threshhold

in fact, all this does is encourage AFK more than ever

[cursive wave]

I mean if a adult eat a 20% of there kind they don't become a debuff but they become a debuff if they eat a of the same kind at over 50%

Like monitor dragons they hunt only small ones of there kind

[limber hull]

thats because they're easy, not because they literally can't metabolise them lol

[cursive wave]

But you can't put that into a game in the same way, hence the debuff
but you seem to have a different opinion so in the end it won't do any good to continue discussing because you think your opinion is right and I think mine is right

[limber hull]

okay, so if i hunt a raptor that's like, 3% below the threshhold where it becomes an adult and it grows up slightly during that hunt, i cant eat it anymore?

[latent olive]

monitor lizards, like komodo dragons, eat their own kind for 2 reasons:

1. they have iron stomachs and can actually digest the content

2. theyre too dumb to recognise that the juveniles are actually their own kids and eat them

unfortunately reason 2 is one of the main reasons why komodos are considered endangered

[cursive wave]

when the raptor is like over 40% then u cant eat it without debuff

[limber hull]

why add that besides making pack animals less likely to work together, nest or actively grow? All this does is encourage avoiding literally everyone until you're over 40% to not get unfairly killed for trying to join a pack

[rare glade]

Well Im out. Not playing this game anymore. They keep breaking thier own game. Such great Ideas.... Why Cant they leave the mechanics alone? It was VERY good before. Now not only do we not have AI spawning, But they have just encouraged all the Trolls to teamkill and Canniblize everyone. AWSOME!

[tired quest]

did they nerf the amount of food a horned melon can provide to stego?
found 4 melons and each of they vanished within 4 bites

[limber hull]

@final herald we have one

[final herald]

Is it /unstuck? Cos it aint working lol

[limber hull]

yea, that's it

it don't work if other players are too close, and it has a cooldown of 90 mins

[final herald]

Goes on CD even if it doesn't work?

[limber hull]

no idea

[final herald]

https://tenor.com/view/tokyojns-stitch-gif-22307444

[spice orbit]

tjats hilarious

[tight iron]

#general-feedback message they already do tho

[barren zephyr]

yeah this is day 3 of me trying to enjoy this new patch, im out too

ggs guys hopefully i check back in 6 months and this isnt painful

[limber hull]

lmao i have yet to see the issue with this patch

[barren zephyr]

The most common complaint I’ve seen, well in other servers, is that ceratos manual vomit doesn’t serve any purpose and “the devs wasted their time adding it”.

[rocky raptor]

stuck by your dam replacement and the command dont work. rip

stop ordering your terrain from china

[icy lion]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[urban flax]

@dense plover physics

[dense plover]

There is no physics tho

They sway the same way no matter if you interact or not

[urban flax]

The moving foliage

[dense plover]

It's literally just animations

[dense plover]

Yeah that's called animation and should not affect performance as much as it does in-game

[limber hull]

No it isn't lol

[dense plover]

Bruh

[limber hull]

Physics renderring is intense because it's not "just animation"

[dense plover]

Physics means it's an actor that can be manipulated

[limber hull]

It's multiple calculations involving collision, velocity, angles, distance between the two objects, etc

[dense plover]

The grass can't, the trees can't

[limber hull]

There exists foliage with physics

Actual real-time physics

[dense plover]

Where would I find this

[limber hull]

They're like... Fern things? IDK how to explain them

They're like a dwarf-sized palm tree basically

[dense plover]

Idk man, just seems incredibly weird to me

So many other games have this basic "physics" but they still run rather well

It's literally the only setting that effectively halves fps

[winter void]

its actually pretty nice 😄
should get a mechanic that locks on the body to vomit on because sometimes you vomit on it or next to it to make it work :/
but pretty nice to find other ceras without 1 call 😄

[clear saddle]

Did we ever get a date for when we're getting that hotfix for this??

[winter void]

had that only on 140 player hordetest. after gettin it to normal branch i never got that error again.. wierd everybody else get it

[hidden mist]

I agree with Troodon Enjoyer. Even before the update with actual “Foliage Physics” thing (i.e. this patch, and even so devs took away the option btw, dunno why), “Effects” setting ate a good chunk of your fps (around 10-30 in some places) for no visible reason besides grass movement (but should only this cost 10-30 fps? Don’t think so). They should just separate “Foliage Physics”, “Moving Foliage” (the thing without intense calculations, such as the grass around, which doesn’t response to player’s actions), and “Effects” settings in favor of optimisation, imho. But as I see, they are having problems with it, because firstly on Horde Test they added a “Foliage Physics” button, it wasn’t doing anything, they removed it, and now I guess it’s tied to the “Effects” again, which is… Not so cool.

[spice orbit]

@torn oyster to your comment about the much rain, its the isle, in the middle of some ocean body :D

it fits the to the jungle and vegetation, I like it

they already turned down the rate of rain and storm by a big factor, now we have more sunny than rainy days and I think thats good enough

[torn oyster]

I feel like I hardly ever see the sun, and I live on an island, and it doesn't rain anywhere near that much

Also, have you ever been to a jungle? It doesn't rain that hard that often

I can understand a thunderstorm once every few in game days, and maybe raining gently from time to time

But it's literally been raining for three in game days now

[spice orbit]

indeed, and the most rains I experienced in the isle are soften nature aswell

[torn oyster]

and if it hasnt been, it's been night time

[spice orbit]

hm ok thats maybe just bad luck then

[torn oyster]

So why even have the ability to turn NV off if it's always going to rain during the day? lol

[spice orbit]

like I said, bad luck

[torn oyster]

Or, it could be that rain frequency has been upped in the latest patch

and that maybe it's a bug

[spice orbit]

trust me its havin a good balance, maybe u have to play more to fell it

no i think otherwise

[torn oyster]

LOL

Okay, so because you enjoy it this way, it's legit

makes hearing anything pointless, and hunting a massive pita

[spice orbit]

yeah whatever mate

[torn oyster]

nice comeback

[stone hatch]

fatal errors rampant

and personally i have experienced more hitbox issues

[torn oyster]

So 90 hours in two weeks isn't enough to justify seeing a difference in the rain frequency/patterns on a single server?

Not trying to rile, just wanting to have a serious discussion about the weather patterns in this game

Since this is #general-feedback-discussion , I feel just "no you're wrong eb" isn't a discussion, it's shutting me down.

[spice orbit]

idk what point youre tryin to make, I told u my experience and I feel like its balanced

nothing much to discuss

[torn oyster]

Considering the number of people on AU1 I've seen say the same as me about how often it rains, I find it hard to believe it's balanced.

[spice orbit]

for example Ive experiencing the third sunny day in the row

at the moment

[torn oyster]

It's a BIG island, sure, I get that it rains more in tropical locations. Won't dispute that.

[spice orbit]

maybe its really different depending on which server youre on, that would be really weird

[torn oyster]

But also configurable possibly?

[spice orbit]

I think its for sure configurable, but i dont know why it should be configuered differently on other offical servers

[torn oyster]

I would hope it's configurable at any rate. If it's RNG, then it would mean that AU1 is cursed and cursed again 😆

[spice orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-stork-soon-tmobile-gif-19545973

[cursive venture]

whats the best title in the game?

[torn oyster]

Best title?

Stegosaurus PhD?

[tall hearth]

are you in the right server? the isle doesnt have titles

[dark nymph]

Cerato charge bite hitbox is so buggy

Headshot not even getting registered

[narrow nova]

Many seaturtles and crab in coast,very less other ai in land.

[sacred crag]

Are they aware of this crashing or going to address it any time soon?

Was this a Fatal error patch?

[solid belfry]

#general-feedback message looks like one of those tiger electronic light-up board games lol

[winter oyster]

#general-feedback message @long rampart don’t frogs usually give S diet? At least that’s the case with Herrera and Pteranodon. Was that changed recently to //?

[long rampart]

frogs dont give troodon // diet or any diet

just a meatchunk :/

[winter oyster]

Right, I mean universally though frogs give S diet

[long rampart]

yea for dilo and omni i think

[winter oyster]

So idk if they’d make an exception to give // to troodon

Troodon isn’t usually hanging by water sources either? It would make more sense for them to get goat on their diet for // if they don’t have it already

[limber hull]

they have goat

[river swallow]

Yeah, it sucks now.

[limber hull]

it feels better now to me

[hidden mist]

@lilac sun fully approve of your suggestion, but sadly, it seems like game settings optimisation is not the current priority :(

[lilac sun]

i mean changing a dlss file literally takes 1 sec and could even get them to wait even more on optimization because dlss does it for them and kinda hides the poor performances sooo.....

[hidden mist]

Yeah, but don’t forget that we already have settings that aren’t re-applied automatically on every start-up and one broken setting (“Foliage Physics”) xd

[tepid rose]

Which coast?

[wooden agate]

@torpid quail elaborate on fix stego #general-feedback message

[torpid quail]

@wooden agate I just feels way to powerful it needs a bigger carnivorous Dino that competes with it. Feels like stego just one hits everything or almost one hits everything.

[limber hull]

Just wait till you hear about deino

[desert arch]

Stego is already pathetically weak tbh, it has really obvious weaknesses you can play around.

Also omni packs literally shred it. It needs 40% of its stam to buck off a single omni

[limber hull]

3-4 raptors easily destroy a stego. Any more than that can be used as cannon fodder to play even more recklessly

[desert arch]

If the stego decides to buck, even 2 is enough

[limber hull]

Deino can both kill stego (now with great ease due to the buff last patch) and is even better at one-hitting other dinos than stego, as well as having effectively no competition

Stego must compete with cerato, deino, troodon, omni and dilo as potential predators, and also worry about potentially hostile tenos/other stegos

[warm jungle]

@random crystal The game as is right now is way too dark during the day, alot of people need night vision to see anything when walking through the forest or sometimes even in the open. the shadows are too dark which is constantly at battle with the heavily saturated light and color outside the shadows. As of right now, removing night vision would be a bad idea for daytime. I suggest picking a skin that fits well not only for bushes w/o nightvison, but also enough grayscale translated through it to match with the gray of the trees/bushes/grass

[tight iron]

#general-feedback message uhh fix? theres nothing to fix

also the thing that competes with it is already here, it is called raptor

[hidden mist]

Everything faster than ~40 km/h can compete actually if a player is patient enough, because if stego wastes all its stam it becomes easy food lol

And if you also just count those tail swipes, you can easily understand when it’s out of stamina and that’s the moment for offensive playstyle

[limber hull]

which is dumb and the thing Dondi said he wanted to avoid

[hidden mist]

Yeah

[limber hull]

also, raptor really is the main current counter to stego

[hidden mist]

A dino, for which you must spend around ~6 hours, shouldn’t be a walking can due to its inability to buck a 450 kgs raptor

[limber hull]

but prey animal

[hidden mist]

10% for one raptor is alr probs, but not 40% I’ve seen in other channel lol

[hidden mist]

Oi I forgor

[desert arch]

And thats for a fully grown stego, apparently its even worse for smaller ones

Cause the new bucking calculation takes weight difference into account

[hidden mist]

Wrong calculations for fg stego then lol 😵

[restive fjord]

How is that players are still not able to play as ptera?

[limber hull]

wdym

you can pick ptera and play it, what's unplayable about it

is there a bug?

[restive fjord]

Not in the game it seems. But something is clearly bugging people about the playable. They are unable to travel far distances, managing stamina and literally enjoy it.

[limber hull]

Ptera has by far one of the most stamina-effective movement in the game, so it's strange to think it "can't move far distances"

[restive fjord]

Ikr? The most efficient playable when it comes to stamina since gateway was released and there are folks out there suggesting it needs to have 10x more of it. Like if it would help under their management, lol. Go move with your croc through water by constantly lunging and then be salty about your depleted stamina. That type of mentality.

[limber hull]

you can clear, like, the entire map

[restive fjord]

Taking dmg from dehydration way before my stam drops to like 75% in one flight, lol.

[latent olive]

<@&933486433342222376> virus scammer

[formal kayak]

In #general-feedback too

Oh thank you

[finite lagoon]

@copper cradle just walk around the waterfall? It takes a couple Stam sits sure but it's not like... that difficult. Just a little time consuming.

You're literally immortal in water so I feel like it's a decent tradeoff.

[midnight heath]

No I will go down this waterfall.

They think after seeing many people complain about getting stuck in said waterfalls

[finite lagoon]

Yeah they are glitchy to try and swim down, I just walk around them. Takes like. 5 minutes.

[midnight heath]

I'll normally even smell to see is there's S around, all are things to make me just get out and walk down the little path instead.

I've lost maybe 2 deinos since Gateway to them and learned.

[copper cradle]

i wouldn't say immortal since another deino can kill you, which is fine but there are better solutions like adding tunnels going up and down underwater plus you have that water drain on land and you're slow af so a stego can just yeet you because you have no choice. still think there is a better solution than what we have now

[midnight heath]

The chances of you running into a stego in the middle of the jungle I feel like are pretty slim.

And your water and stamina isn't going to drain from a path walk, maybe if you run and stick around but its more than enough time to just walk down.

Steg has one migration in the jungle and it's nowhere near waterfalls.

[finite lagoon]

You'd have to be real lucky, yeah lol.

Buy. Yeah I mean I'd be fine if they made the falls traversable somehow but I don't personally think they need to be. Having to walk around every once in a while is the only challenge you really face as a dieno except OTHER dienos lmao

[copper cradle]

still could happen and what about going from water river system to the next across the map or lake, is that good solution to just walk there when they could just add a river connecting them? considering deinos gameplay is basically luck, you have to be in the right place at the right time

[midnight heath]

If I can go from the swamp to SP's river you can walk down a path.

It's barely luck, learn where people tend to be and drink, go there.

I even plan on this journey because I know people drink here.

These are all the places I know people tend to drink.

Swamps too but you can't really sit in puddles that shallow so I didn't bother to count it.

The volcano too but again, not really a place to sit.

[copper cradle]

people go to migrations zones but you can't cause you're locked at a river and people tend to go to lakes which you have to travel on land to get there, would be fine if your water didn't drain fast and iv seen other feedback that now 2 omnis can just drain your stam easy, so you're basically venerable on land, which it should be but you shouldn't be force to have to do that, you're not force to do anything like that with another dino a part from migration zones but people go to hotspots anyway, to me thats bad game design

[midnight heath]

Herbivores tend to go to migration zones yes, all of Delta is available to you which is a massive migration zone for tenos, dryo, beipi and stegs pass through there as well. Carnivores don't tend to migrate as often or as far. Traveling on land is a sacrifice you make if you want a better spot to sit, it provides better protection from cannibals and a new food source. Make the travel at night or when the server's population is low, I traveled on land with a full server and didn't get bothered but if something did catch me then that'd be on me.

The game can't prevent hotspots, they'll always be there because players will be players.

Legacy had AI spawn on players too, be it in a group or not in a group; the player spawns were random as well and yet there were hotspots. People will pick a spot regardless of what the developers do.

Deino can eat rot, bones, can kill everything on the rooster with a single R+click, protected in the water excluding other deinos (if you're alone then you're golden) has the highest HP, best bleed res and all it lacks in return is being waterbound.

A FG deino can also fully sustain itself on elite fish, you don't need to hunt anyone to keep it alive.

It being vulnerable on land is a very small price to pay for the apex it is.

[copper cradle]

so if rex had a limit on where it could go due to map design and could only go on a certain path but if it strayed from that path it would become a lot slower, vulnerable and lets say its food drained 3x faster would you say thats good?
legacy ai was trash and easy
can't kill another adult deino or a fully grown stego with r+click but they can't exactly chase down their pray can they? plus they need most of their stam to drown them, they need to be in the right place at the right time since the rivers and lakes are a lot bigger then spiro so there is less likely chance of seeing someone drink anyway, i just think it could of been a lot more better and balanced if more thought was put into it when designing the rivers

[limber hull]

ironically, that exists

and ironically, you haven't seen the obvious answer

rex can't move nearly as well through water as it can on land, much like the inverse with deino

[midnight heath]

Rex isn't out yet so I'm not going to argue about some hypothetical situation that doesn't exist yet.

• Deino can kill an adult steg with one r+click if it's in the water.

• Everything needs to drink, pick a spot where people drink.

• Yes you need full stamina to 1-tap people who spent 1-2 to 6-7 hours to grow. Go figure.

• Spiro was an awful map and it's gone, it only did well because deinos were genuinely spoon-fed.

• I don't struggle as deino, pick a spot and sit. It's an abmush predator, I'm not sure what to tell you.

It's not a "right place, right time" it's a "I know this is where people drink, so I'm going to sit here and wait."

[copper cradle]

a small portion of the map smh
maybe i should of said something like game trails lol

[limber hull]

okay, let's look at this way

deino has access to areas rex can NEVER access, ever, no matter how much it tries.

[copper cradle]

i get it, you don't know what im about lol lets just move on

[limber hull]

oh, so a gator?

[midnight heath]

This all started because people choose to fall down waterfalls and die rather than walk around them.

[midnight heath]

https://tenor.com/view/low-iq--100-gif-1975891834031730020

My gator will never fit into the gator niche.

[copper cradle]

or look at it as dieno can only access maybe 20% (could be more idk) of the map, apply that to another apex like rex for example. i was just asking if you would see that as good game design lol but nvm

[midnight heath]

Except you can reach any part of the water if you just walk on land.

[limber hull]

i mean, given the fact that the 20% of the map is indeed a necessary resource of survival, it's not that horrible

[copper cradle]

yes i know lol 🤦‍♂️ maybe im just bad at explaining then nvm

[midnight heath]

You will hear, see or know that rex is around and can avoid it most likely.

When you need to drink you won't know unless it's 3 inches deep.

[copper cradle]

ik i was giving a rex as an example lol

[lunar sedge]

At the moment Deino's make so much noise that you can pretty much 100% tell when one is in the lake.

[midnight heath]

That's a bug I'm 99% sure

And it's a really, really bad one.

Hopefully it's fixed sooner rather than later, I managed to hunt with it but lost a few because they heard me move into postion.

[copper cradle]

but a rex can chase down its prey, deino can't

[midnight heath]

Because deino is an ambush predator and rex isn't.

[lunar sedge]

Actually new study shown on the Rex discovered it was nearly silent while walking and had pretty good agility. It could sneak up on a lot of things.

[midnight heath]

Deino again can full sustain off of AI elite fish, rex likely won't be able to sustain itself on AI.

I'm fine with deino being able to fill itself on AI because it can't go after it's prey, so while it waits it doesn't starve; I think it's a fair tradeoff.

Far more generous too because it gives diet unlike grazing or something that starves off hunger.

[midnight heath]

But the Isle is a video game and far from accurate most of the time, I wouldn't count on our apex being as silent as a mouse for balancing purposes.

[limber hull]

Study or not, rex is LOUD AS HELL in EVRIMA

[lunar sedge]

Fair.

[split estuary]

What study? xD According to study Rex couldn't run fast, his head was too heavy, and he tried to be an ambush predator, most oftenly they ended up eating dead corpses or going canni... Appearently what helped them was a very good nose to smell food from very far away.. Btw can Deino travel as he used to? Somebody reached East Pond or South River?..

I wonder how balancing will make Rex vs Deino fights 🤔

[limber hull]

deino dies

[split estuary]

Isn't it heavier? By like 2 tons

[limber hull]

no

rex is likely going to be 8-10 tons, making rex the heavier one

[split estuary]

Isn't it heavier? By like 2 tons

[limber hull]

i feel like we already did this

[split estuary]

Why my message was sent twice lol

I think they will copy some stats from Legacy, where he was like 6 tons? Correct me if I'm wrong

[limber hull]

they almost absolutely won't

i cant think of a single legacy weight that was the same in EVRIMA

legacy weight also works VERY differently from EVRIMA weight, so it was basically impossible to make things too heavy without obliterating balance

[lapis swallow]

Rex would absolutely body deino

[split estuary]

But how will it work now if Deino can lunge at larger dinos in water 🤔

[limber hull]

rex is still far too heavy

deino can only lunge things up to 6 tons. Rex will be more around 8-10

[cyan flame]

Maybe they'll up the lunge range again, or maybe deino will be fished by rex in the future

[limber hull]

im betting rex fishing will become the new big thing lol

[cyan flame]

While stegos can't go swimming after a deino, a rex might be able to, and it'd probably have better attacks while swimming at that

[split estuary]

Well Deino still can dive and attack from below

I can already smell that mixpacking of Deino and Sucho to ambush a Rex lol

[limber hull]

But sucho is a shallow wader, so that probably wouldn't be too productive

[split estuary]

Knowing people they will quickly find a symbiotic relationship between those two 😁

[limber hull]

You'd be better off combining spino and deino, or bary and deino

And to kill a rex, why settle for sucho?

All of this also rests on rex for some reason spending a good amount of time swimming

Enough time to be killed by deino

[languid island]

A lot of pple are leaving the game because of ai changes

[split estuary]

HP is a totally different thing here, it will mostly balance between DMG and HP between Apexes.. Sucho because it's semi-aquatic, they will kinda share territories. Spino will be enough against Rex if played properly.

[limber hull]

Sucho doesn't really share territory with deino much at all

Deino likes deep water that is able to obscure it, and allows it to drag things down

Sucho likes shallow, isolated bodies of water, like shallows and ponds where it can wade through safely, while ignoring threats from deeper bodies

The only similarity is water, although it's like calling herrera a plains predator because it hunts on land

[split estuary]

Yup, missing AI in some areas made AI disappear from known spots, while empty ones remained empty 😅

[languid island]

Solo adult carno dies from hunger or verry large packs. Immagine i bought the game 3 days before patch and now this? i cant even get refunded

[limber hull]

I believe AI spawns in migrations now, not just hotspots. Go there for AI

[languid island]

you belive wrong

[limber hull]

Then tell me

[languid island]

its doesnt spawn.

[limber hull]

You're wrong

I've seen many AI spawn

[languid island]

its verry verry rarly spawn stuck on a cliff or tree

[limber hull]

Have you tried going to migrations, because I literally find AI when I go there lol

[languid island]

i spent 7 hours groing thrue the entire map

[languid island]

on 3 different servers

[limber hull]

I spent a couple of minutes on dryo and found some

Because I went to migrations

[languid island]

7h and 3 minutes

[limber hull]

10 minutes

[languid island]

i think my testing is more accurate

[limber hull]

How

I got results faster

[languid island]

7h > that 3 minutes

[split estuary]

Natural habitat kinda won't exist here, Herrera has ability to climb trees so he does, Sucho will swim too, players won't care if its deep or not until Deinos make some borders to be honest

[limber hull]

Maybe you did something wrong lol

Because I found AI much faster. You didn't.

[languid island]

something wrong for 7h yes

[limber hull]

Yes.

If you were just blindly running around, hoping AI would spawn, yea

[languid island]

i did spend times in the migration zone its rarely spawns

[split estuary]

Well, I saw a goat yesterday twice xD Which truly was rare at the start

[limber hull]

How about you try going to migrations, where the AI has been seen spawning

[languid island]

i spent few hours there barelly no ai

[split estuary]

MAL focus on plains mostly

[languid island]

grow an adult carno, record and send us the footage?

[limber hull]

i already did that on horde test

kept finding deer that made it impossible to starve out my carno

i really can't be bothered to play carno because it's not my kinda vibe

[languid island]

so you wont know

read about the community

[limber hull]

why would carno make me know

why can't i play any animal, it works the same

[languid island]

cause it has bigger hunger requirement

pple want prepatch ai, read them

[limber hull]

i have read about the community. There are people who can't find AI because they're programmed to get fed in hotspots and then complain about it, and the people who actually figured out where the AI is

[languid island]

im not the only one to see there is no ai

migration zone or not

[limber hull]

i prefer current AI, because it's no longer an easy crutch

[languid island]

well you are the minority sry

[limber hull]

last patch AI was just easy street for carnivores

[languid island]

as it should be for solo players

[limber hull]

no

[languid island]

also corps get you targeted verry fast

its not hunger game

[limber hull]

play herbivore if you want to avoid hunting players and just eat what the world provides

[languid island]

i want to survive as adult carnivores first

like prepatch

[split estuary]

I prefer on hunting dinos anyway so I can't tell exactly, but East Plains as a hotspot went empty, AI spawns when You hang around certain area

Try South Plains

[languid island]

spent 7 hours in all areas, inclueded migration zones

and allways spawn south now cause east is dead, because ai changes

[split estuary]

And from what I saw as Deino, North East Lake is active again

[limber hull]

(probably because there are no migration zones in east plains lol)

there's one on the nearby beach

[languid island]

it seems you see ai as herbi and you dont know what you are talking about, only because you saw something in 7 minutes dont make it the absolute truth sry

just read the community

What i heard about lead dev i'm not surprise tho

[limber hull]

the community loves to make a mountain out of an anthill, especially when their precious carnis suffer slightly

i love to play carnivore, i was giving dryo a spin for a bit. I've also grown a troodon and had little trouble with AI this update, so IDK man

[limber hull]

lmao here we go

[split estuary]

Not really, I lurk around East Plains as Troodon, found 3 juvi deers and 2 goats. It's not about Migration Zones only. Maybe it's more often there but You can find it everywhere if You spend enough time around

[languid island]

7h isnt enought?

ill spend the 5 next hours in migration zone, and will come back with the same result

you wanna bet?

[limber hull]

god damn you must be unlucky

or just not paying attention to the sounds AI make

AI are loud as hell lol

[split estuary]

Honestly, Juvi Deer made me mad cause it's squeaking xD I was surprised to find it in the grass

[languid island]

if i found 2 ai in 5h i'm still dead, and i cant play solo against 20 raptors

[limber hull]

they make a whole shriek lol

[limber hull]

how exactly are they growing 20 raptors if there's "no AI"

[languid island]

Read them

they eat each other

and gank juvs

[limber hull]

so why can't you? Because they must have godawful diets if they're just cannibalising

[languid island]

indeed

[split estuary]

I can't name it lol...

And Raptors yeah, they ignore spasms to just not die, I clear lands happily as a Cera in South

[languid island]

i really dont want to buy path of titan after buying this i hope they will listen to the vast majority of the cmmunity

[limber hull]

you dont have to buy PoT lol

[languid island]

if devs dont listen maybe i have

[limber hull]

why though lol

[languid island]

because the game i bought and enjoy prepatch is no more

[limber hull]

PoT isn't that game either

[split estuary]

PoT sucks xD You are forced to walk around map and carry pines etc to grow.... If You don't know how some things are done You will grow forever

[languid island]

its about no starving and pvp

even in dayz i dont starve

[limber hull]

ah, then you'll hate what this game is becoming, because unfortunately, it's hardcore survival

[split estuary]

There is no PvP if You're a juvi, played it and trust me, Isle is way better

[languid island]

its nothing hardcore survival, its getting ganked 20 times as juv to satisfy toxic players for the only meat around

[limber hull]

it's not toxic if they're actually doing it for food though

[languid island]

ok you have a point

so immagine somebody bought the game yesterday

prepatch was enjoyable for new players and not only for the minimal survival game enjoyers

for annimal and nature lovers why not

cut yourself from a bigger players possibility

if you want hardcore survival play non ai servers

[cyan flame]

Right, that's fair, but the game is in development and will change. That should be taken into account as well.

[languid island]

if this is hardcore survival what is non ai server? super deadly metal hardcore survival🤘 ☠️

[limber hull]

A test

There's 50 more players to hunt on them

[cyan flame]

Maybe they're testing to see which one works out the best. I don't know, I'm just adressing the "I enjoyed prepatch" argument, seeing as things have changed a lot before you joined, and will change a lot after as well.

And there are at least people wanting little to no AI as well as there are those that want even a grown rex to survive on AI on an otherwise empty server

[languid island]

so you are right and its not a game for me as roughtly 70% of the player base

that i can read since lunch or legacy

[cyan flame]

I don't know how large the playerbase for either side, or in between is, so can't comment on that. But in general, yeah, the game is probably not going to end up fun for the majority. Or more accurately, the official servers won't. While unofficials, given lots of choice in settings, will be more suited for various kinds of playstyles.

And this has been mentioned, you can turn on/off AI and probably change those settings on unofficials, so you could always wait until something akin to a "high AI" unofficial server is made

[languid island]

Maybe you dont know this, but the ai changes affect directly non official servers.

[cyan flame]

No, didn't know that. Seems a little odd, maybe it's more so something bugging out then, rather than the actual change. Or those servers haven't changed their settings, if those settings are in yet.

[languid island]

the dead areas are the same, i dont know if they can choose to make them spawn more often, but they deffinitly dont. There is no servers with plenty of ai like prepatch

[cyan flame]

Maybe the settings aren't active then, or something. I don't know the reason, I'm just pointing out that at least in the future, it's meant for unofficials to be able to tailor the experience in various ways. So even if current situation isn't ideal for you, there'll be options down the line.

If you find it unplayable right now, wait and see, they're obviously testing things, so there'll be changes again, one way or the other

[languid island]

I dont know where this is going. And as i'm becoming a dev myself i know there is a market. I wish you all the best

[chilly ermine]

#general-feedback message Really wish this would be addressed. I've said for a while that not having NV on all the time puts players at a disadvantage. The choice is: enjoy the game's beauty the way it was meant to be and be at a disadvantage, or have it it on and have better chances of survival.

[icy lion]

@brittle kiln Ptera can cross the entire island in one go, I haven't had any issues with its stam consumption whatsoever

If you aim slightly above the horizon and hold W, you can ascend basically forever with how little stam it uses

I only use space or shift in emergencies, or if I'm just impatient

[brittle kiln]

I built a diet for better stam but I still felt that his stam is bad

[icy lion]

Stam diet doesn't increase how long you can fly iirc, only changes how long you can regen

[brittle kiln]

I don't even use the fly faster ability and I still feel like the stamina runs out quickly 🥺

[icy lion]

Practice makes perfect, ptera can stay in the air for 10+ minutes at a time even including fishing

[brittle kiln]

I'm going to try the perfect diet and see if it changes anything

[karmic hemlock]

Hmmm. I haven't played Ptera in a long time but typically has long flights. However, imho no real use of a ptera... no defense. Low Stam. Etc.

I feel like ptera needs a companion or competitor.

[limber hull]

its not really about your diet as much as how you fly

[harsh socket]

I feel like it could be more versatile with the ability to swallow things while in the air and an easier method of perching on branches similar to the herra

so then herra gets a bit more fun because you can wait for pteras to land on your tree and eat them

[limber hull]

I feel like ptera should get herrera's automatic branch walk system

[harsh socket]

that too

and maybe some diet buffs that further encourages scavenging

[dapper berry]

Hi guys, may i have a question? I did updated the isle and cant play it anymore. I did unninstal the game and instal it again, but it stops at downloading and says "failled to copy on your disc" or something like that

[karmic jolt]

beelzebufo anyone else wants that

[random crystal]

I agree, once the lighting is fixed, NV should be restricted to night time only, with an option for automatic turn on once low light is detected.

[brittle kiln]

but the diet alters stamina regeneration, doesn’t it?

[limber hull]

yea, but not really flight stam consumption

in a single flight, you can still basically cross the entire island with proper management

[midnight heath]

I also prefer the new AI.

[languid island]

I'am making a verry long video with the flying dino ill post the link here to proove my point. I understand the isle isnt for me i get it.

[midnight heath]

And I had people agree that they wanted spoonfed AI so I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sorry that carnivores have to hunt now and not sustain entirely off a AI alone.

[lapis swallow]

best username out there

[urban flax]

Inspired by best islecorder out there
#general-feedback message

[lapis swallow]

Dirtycheater, my man

[harsh socket]

I feel like a lot more small ai could solve this

[midnight heath]

Same actually!

[harsh socket]

Unsustainable to hunt consistently but able to get you from meal to meal while looking for the next big hunt

And good luck if you're a fresh spawn anything trying to kill any of the large ai

[queen swift]

im thinking the devs of this game really hate deino, why make them spawn so small and not adjust the speed/ stamina and add more spawns so they dont have to get spawn killed over and over again by bigger faster deinos? you cant even run from them if you wanted to, cant fight back. nothing. just have to die over and over from the same spawns. They really dont want people to have fun like ever. they make some things better then change things for the worse that nobody asked for..
at that size the fresh spawn baby deinos cant even catch the elite fish. what do they expect players to do exactly? maybe im not getting it but it seems lke a huge oversight

[lapis swallow]

Deino is actually hard to grow now

[queen swift]

thats fine and all, but no other dino has that level of difficulty.

[lapis swallow]

yeh, cause deino is a apex

[queen swift]

an apex confined to the water. theres so much water on the map they cant get to

[lapis swallow]

still a apex

it can oneshot everything that is not a adult deino

[queen swift]

it cant lmao? it also takes hours to get to a size that has close to that capability

[lapis swallow]

it literally can

[queen swift]

do you know what oneshot means?

[cyan flame]

Indirect oneshot, via drowning, or sometimes just biting things to death in the water, but it's pretty much a guaranteed death if you get grabbed

Which is what people most of the time mean, you get grabbed, you're going to be drowned, unless deino mess up

[queen swift]

thats not a one shot though, and theres a chance ( albeit a small one) to get out from it. and again youd need to be 70% and up to have that much of an impact... that takes houurrs to get to that level. they cant get to all water sources so all land dinos have to do is go to a pond a deino cant get to and they can just drink for free.

[lapis swallow]

it is, a full stam deino always gets the kill

[queen swift]

just say you hate them and move on dude

[cyan flame]

The only chance is if the deino messes up, and sure, it's not a technical one shot, but you still die in one go none the less

[lapis swallow]

I dont hate them, I just like that bad deinos arent actually getting fullgrown now and dont infest the rivers while also clogging up server space like the fat sausages they are

[queen swift]

and thats fine regardless. however my argument is they need more spawns. period

[lapis swallow]

they have three spawns, where else should they spawn?

[cyan flame]

Sure, spawn camping is no good, so if that's an issue, it should be worked on, one way or the other

[queen swift]

look at a map dude idk what to tell you, theres whole rivers and lakes ( highlands) and the entire west side of the map thats free pickings

[lapis swallow]

if they spawn west, they cant leave this one tiny river

[queen swift]

ok now i know youre trolling... there is no west spawn at all and never has been.

[lapis swallow]

i meant it like, if they had the chance to spawn west

[queen swift]

theres literally a huge river and several ponds and a huge lake ( highlands) that could be utilized

[lapis swallow]

you can already get to highlands as a croc tho

[queen swift]

but

you

cant
spawn
there

[lapis swallow]

and? just spawn water access and run there

people do that all the time

[queen swift]

jesus H christ

dude im talking about the spawn camping theres no skill in it. there needs to be varaiety in spawns like every other dino has. why cant you understand the words that im typing?

[lapis swallow]

its unlikely that three spawns are all camped

it was bad with water access but swamp alone covers such a huge area

[cyan flame]

If there's only three, it's not that unlikely that they'll get camped to be honest. Especially if there's fish around to keep you alive anyway

[queen swift]

oh i think i understand you now, you want the entire west side of the map free of deinos so you can drink for free and no hastle. that can be the only reason youre delibratly ignoring what im saying. Fresh spawns cant catch elite fish

[lapis swallow]

K

[icy lion]

@hybrid mica The % you are is based on how long you have left to grow, whether you're a subadult is based on your size

[hybrid mica]

so if im 30% grown, the bar is 30% full i have 30% left to grow?

[icy lion]

It means 30% of the time it takes to reach 100% has passed

That includes the hatchling stage, which is why you don't spawn at 0 or 1%

[hybrid mica]

wouldnt that make you 30% grown anyway?

or around that

[icy lion]

Weight doesn't increase linearly, so no

You gain mass faster as a juvie, which is why you reach subadult at fairly low percentages