isle-lore-theories

[soft spade]

it was a giant pachy

[balmy veldt]

It made all the lakes by smacking its head into the ground

[pallid gust]

So on the topic of lore, I always thought that AE was doing some genetic experiments on Human beings because of how the cannibal tribals look in the concept art.(This is just theory after all and I read all signals from the transmission page on twitter.) That in certain areas you see broken tubes in certain bases in legacy when I traveled around to see all the buildings THAT and the strange interference you get when you come close to the building as a dinosaur, like certain areas are fuzzy and don't want you to see them as clearly. I believe that AE stole the embryos of pregnant women and did some genetics to infuse them with different types of Dinosaur DNA or transmutations perhaps and the results of the terrible experiment seemed to be the Cannibal Tribal Indigenous we see on the island because it'd be easy to capture tribals and experiment on them when they can't fight back with there type of tools compared to guns and such. At some point AE is successful in creating Dinosaurs using the embryo process and so that is how we are as 'players' are the dinosaurs because we are the successful experiment.

[old stone]

The fuzziness that dinos get when near buildings in legacy is due to a chip in their head

[pallid gust]

Still it makes it hard to search for clues and one of the transmissions on twitter says that there are clues on specific buildings but again this could all be reconned with the new version of the Isle.

But it would pose to be interesting to think that the players are formerly human beings transformed into dinosaurs.

[acoustic osprey]

So your theory is that AE made Gen 1/Tribals?

[acoustic osprey]

||and to move dinosaurs away from camping at those sites||

Which I doubt they'll reintroduce in Evrima

[normal wharf]

Just found this human building in Evrima in the coastal grassland while searching for coconuts, the weirdest thing was that there was this opened container, and inside there was... a coconut, just standing there for no reason. Someone must have move It, but It wasn't open and I don't think some random dino pick It up and leave It there for no reason. Has anyone else found this place before?

[old stone]

Someone almost certainly brought the coconut and left it there

[acoustic osprey]

yep

[normal wharf]

Yea, but who or why

[acoustic osprey]

someone playing the game

[normal wharf]

Or maybe It was there all the time

And why a coco?

And just when I'm searching for cocos

Honestly I'm kinda scared

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

I wouldn't really call that a lore theory, just a player theory.

[normal wharf]

Maybe It was a trap set up by humans or something, since It was inside a container

And lately, It seems like human activity on Evrima is increasing

[acoustic osprey]

It's not just a theory, it's pretty much confirmed (till stated otherwise) that Gen 1/Tribals (although, we're not sure about the Eyeless) were made by AE.

However "stole" the embryos? Probably not, Dondi doesn't want to go through the "evil" corp route- when they could just buy/pay for them.

The first generation turned to worship

As their mental plateau deteriorated advanced cognitive functions, only the most
basic and violent ideologies remained

then they went crazy (Tribals)

[old stone]

?

[normal wharf]

The number of structures is increasing, human stuff appeared in the bottom of Oasis after It got nuked, and It seems like something is going to happen when the caves are opened

[acoustic osprey]

We haven't seen more human structures for a while

[normal wharf]

Especially when the docks are finished

[acoustic osprey]

unless you include Oasis

But, the current "story" of The Isle Evrima isn't "progressively" going up per update
at least, not yet

[old stone]

I think that you're thinking too much about the implication of the coconut

[acoustic osprey]

it's not like they "slowly started building bases In update 2, then more in Update 3"

[normal wharf]

Maybe

But It's just too weird

[acoustic osprey]

when we know that they made these buildings many years before Evrima

[normal wharf]

I was at the edge of starvation, I was searching for cocos and suddenly a random coco inside a container?

[old stone]

Yeah

People leave coconuts in weird places

[normal wharf]

Plus, I've been to that place a million times, I assure you I've never seen that creepy place before

[old stone]

That building has been there for a while

At least since update 4

[normal wharf]

Really?

[old stone]

Yes

[normal wharf]

Sh#t, I must be getting blind

But this scary encounter with the unknown has inspired me

I will create a unified theory to all the lore of The Isle

I will called It, the unified coconut theory

[pallid gust]

Yes precisely.

Oh paying for the embryos work too.

It's a theory that can be built upon after all and paying for them would make things more...less suspicious.

You can pay off the right people to get what you need and pay them to keep quiet for unethical science. Also if he didn't want to be 'evil' which is a point of view, then he shouldn't be experimenting on Tribal in the first place right or on 'us' for that matter as turning us into dinosaurs? Sorry but you basically became Umbrella Corporation once you started messing with genetics.

Or I shouldn't say 'he' but AE corporation.

[acoustic osprey]

Well, it's not really a theory

And having Tribals become the monsters they are can be advertised like Astronauts
You're risking your life for the greater good of man- something on the line of that, IF, people were hired.
If not. They did a Clone Wars and made their own clones

It's not that they wanted to "Make Monsters" (Tribals)
It's just how they, originally, planned to make the next man- that failed, obviously, and they went mad

[pallid gust]

I love it.

I'm not disagreeing with you just putting some ideas out.

Your ideas are making a lot of sense.

[acoustic osprey]

Just trying to make the "Not bad guys" idea into mind

into the most "middle-grounded" company mindset

[pallid gust]

Evil is a point of view.

Your talking to someone who would willingly join the Umbrella Corporation for the greater good of Earth.

But I would use the assets to experiment and benefit the planet.

AE is most likely having that same idea.

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, I don't think we're getting Resident Evil

[stoic hamlet]

when is the more lore reveal gonna happen? they said either june or july can't remember

[old stone]

Sometime in June iirc

[stoic hamlet]

cool

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully June

[unkempt urchin]

I witnessed something SUPER freaky. I was heading toward the river for a drink and suddenly, a .... dark hole, pined in blue, opened up on the surface. It kept getting bigger and bigger. Where it was, water disappeared. Then more holes followed, until the entire river was just ... invisible!! I could still drink from it, creatures are still swimming in it. Has anyone seen this before or have any ideas about it?! It was both cool and freaky at once!

[acoustic osprey]

Sounds like a visual artifact or bug

[unkempt urchin]

big?? what is a visual artifact?

[acoustic osprey]

bug

[unkempt urchin]

I thought it might be but the visual seemed so purposeful; if it was a bug the water should have just disappeared without the effect I saw.

[acoustic osprey]

do you have an image?

[unkempt urchin]

Only with the river already gone

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, it'll dry up

[unkempt urchin]

That would make sense... if I wasn't swimming in it, drinking from it and still seeing animals swimming in it, too

[acoustic osprey]

the isle

[noble harbor]

Can you share that photo? :0

[soft sparrow]

yes

[frozen totem]

so uuuuhh... isle?

[rapid quartz]

Yes

[icy onyx]

Damn, the game never stops being broken

[old stone]

Why are you saying this in lore theories?

[rain mortar]

maybe in lore the isle breaks?

[zealous apex]

the prophecy, the isle's lore is broken

[red river]

So no hypos?

[acoustic osprey]

hypers now? No, but soon? Yes

[red river]

Thank god

Many people have been telling me hypos won't return to evirma

[acoustic osprey]

don't worry, they're wrong.
Hypers are not unconfirmed

[red river]

Phew

[acoustic osprey]

and if you're ever curious about that, you can always message Punch or @ him whilst he's active in #isle-discussion

[red river]

Alr

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/980816775082045460/damn_right.gif

[topaz lance]

I think they are confirmed thou? Isnt there like a whole thing for them. And remeber we had that conversation a LOOOOONG time ago about hypos coming back to the isle (Not legacy), I doubt they will come to evrima because they already arnt gonna add rex playables to evrima.

[high creek]

When did they say Rex isn't going to be playable in evirma

[topaz lance]

In many dev streams

[high creek]

Rex is coming to evirma. Just at a later stage

[topaz lance]

As AI

[high creek]

No it's coming to evirma at THIS stage as AI. And then later at another stage as a playable

Just had a whole conversation about this in the channel above

[frozen totem]

i thought it was just that apexes would be ai on official servers but unofficials can change that?

[high creek]

Ask in #isle-discussion

[old stone]

Evrima will not always be evrima, eventually it will just be the isle

[frozen totem]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

^

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much. But anything can change, not like I think they will change that fact

[topaz lance]

Hopefully they dont change and remove the strains. It would be disappointing. Cause I would love to go on a rampage as a hypo spino!

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[azure sorrel]

The tribals and cannibals are genetic engineering fails and the mercenaries are there to take them out

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

[crisp raven]

I accidently put it here

[soft spade]

HEY ISLANDERS

[dapper basin]

I feel like the island that all the dinos r on is being hidden from civilization by the government they want this to be a secret

[livid shard]

Yes

The People doesnt really know about the isles

and there must be a restriction into plane flights and ships

The isles must be near carribean or México Gulf

[long onyx]

Isn't lore stuff coming this month?

[acoustic osprey]

should be yes

[nocturne cosmos]

Oo shit yeah lore stuff I feel we should probably make a completely new doc for all this stuff

[sinful shale]

I could revamp mine... take a Lotta work though.

[nocturne cosmos]

I think just making a new one is best

Means it’ll be completely fresh

[sinful shale]

Hmm, having an old one for reference and a new would be good... I wonder how much would cross over.

[nocturne cosmos]

Yea keep old one for reference

That’s way we can see what’s staying the same or changing

I hope we get some cool shot to decode

[acoustic osprey]

The up to date doc by HellShade has two sections

I don't find a need for a new doc unless the old Evrima stuff is changed

[bronze moth]

I Saw theories here saying that the isles are in the african coast, something with The paintings was similar to african culture, idk

[acoustic osprey]

That's just the tribals, who made those artworks to worship The Replicator+
The Devs probably took inspiration from African (even Aboriginal) culture

[midnight condor]

maybe there could be a theory where the quetz or other Petra’s (maybe elders or larger flyers) already built nests or homes in big trees so there would either be a new place to nest, hang out or even hide as a pteranodon.

[nocturne cosmos]

I feel it would just be easier for people to tell what’s what and not having anything conflict since stuff might change

[ocean hull]

hihi

dinosauurrr

[sturdy trout]

so... you don't know any of this stuff?

[ocean hull]

https://tenor.com/view/george-pig-so-cool-gif-21993062

nope

[sturdy trout]

[ocean hull]

ive got a concept of what the hypos are, i seen them in vids when i was younger

i only recently got to 1000 hours on the isle

[sturdy trout]

[ocean hull]

BRO WHAT EVEN IS THAT

it looks like a booger lol

[sturdy trout]

[ocean hull]

no im done

im jp tell me more

[ocean hull]

no ok now im done

[sturdy trout]

ok now to explain...

whoo boi

[ocean hull]

i can join a vc if its easier

[sturdy trout]

nah it's good

[ocean hull]

oki

continue and afterwards i give you memes for bein so smort and paitent with me

i appreciate it, both of you so much

[sturdy trout]

very well

[ocean hull]

yes both

ill lyk what all i know

ok, I know general information about hypos, (not where they came from, I'm assuming mutated) and I've heard that all dinos from legacy (except for pue) will be added once others are done. I've heard rex will be AI dinos in Evrima, I know humans will be a thing in evrima which I am very excited about. ( i know some people arent but idrc because imagine in some servers you have humans alongside dinos and attacking everything, or even possibilities of humans being able to genetically modify eggs) and also i know that cannibals will be in-game ( i hope they arent naked and shoot babies at you like in the forest) and i also know that from what you and others have explained the game will be much more gorey than before (which im actually pretty excited for)

i forgot to mention i hear a lot of this stuff from people my age who either go "i know the devs and they said blehbelhbleh" or an old man who goes "the devs have ruined this game, this and blehblehbleh is gonna happen." i dont know why everyone is so negative about the game, its gonna be so fun and im sure some servers will keep a realism aspect to it by banning certain creatures so there can be an all dino server or etc

[strange shell]

This is now part of the lore too (laser thingie hasn't been confirmed yet)

[ocean hull]

WHAT IS THAT

WHY IS IT A THING ITS SO WEIRD LOOKIN, IT LOOKS LIKE A NAKED MOLE RAT

i can see that, and now will prob never unsee it

[sturdy trout]

so... The company that creates all the dinosaurs is called AE ( Apollo Engineering ) they make dinosaurs, go figure, and their goal is to make the perfect life form so all of these strains, the hypers, nueros and tissos ( don't know too much about the matriarch though I know a bit ) are genetic mutations of the regular dinosaurs, the hypers or hyperendocrins are larger, stronger, faster better forms of their regular counterparts, they have no physical downfall and are literally overpowered but they are so big and strong that they are literally unable to be supported by the ecosystem and need too much food so they starve out and die, the nueros or neurotenic evolutions are physically smaller/ weaker than the normal creatures however have a highly advanced intellect an iirc can mindcontrol other creatures, the tissos or tissoplastic mutations are exceptional at camouflage and hiding. now these are all made by the replicator which is like a rogue god ai that makes all the creatures, also makes tribals which are these horrible cannibal orc monster things with freaky faces and they to have evolutions, that big ape monster looking thing is the hyperendocrin evolution of the tribals the tisso is the bat thing and the one weird flesh thing with the bits that come off that doesn't have a face is the neuro one and it is reffered to as the "echidna" and is worshipped like a mother by the tribals, I don't know alot about isle lore and all of this might be wrong but this is what I know about so there ya go

I do know quite a bit more lore if u want but have that for now lol

[strange shell]

AHA you spread misinformation
We don't know what AE's goal is

[sturdy trout]

really? I didn't know that so thank you bubulblu for enlightening me

[strange shell]

Also tissos might have been scrapped, but it's not sure

But anyway Dondi is gonna give us a very clear and complete explanation of the lore in 20 days at most

[ocean hull]

ty guys so much, i hope theres a ping for it

[ocean hull]

can i friend you?

[sturdy trout]

also that's a thing

[sturdy trout]

why?

[ocean hull]

because i might have more questions later

if not thats 100% fine i understand

[sturdy trout]

sure

[ocean hull]

very shwag tysm i promise i wont bother you...

unless its with memes.

[sturdy trout]

but also lightclaw#minmicult knows WAAAAAY more than I do so I recommend asking him

[ocean hull]

gotcha

[sturdy trout]

definitely ask him

100%

the other one lol

[ocean hull]

OOP

[sturdy trout]

He's like a king here

lol

I can ping him for u

[ocean hull]

no its oki, i found him

now to get you your memes

[sturdy trout]

not here though

#offtopic-discussion

oh yeah I remember that

[ocean hull]

i dont wanna bother you but can i send you your memes? theres a lot

so i dont wanna send em and you be weirded out

Ima send em anyway you deserve memes good person

Lol it’s fine

[frozen totem]

still scared of it?

[strange shell]

It's scarier than ever

[neon mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/little-nightmares-gif-20457900

Way scarier than ever

[swift dagger]

Ah yes. Ben

My favorite eldritch being

[half linden]

apparently a lot of people around the world who've never met each other or heard of the phenomenon have experienced a nightmare where they are visited by a "Hat man"

[neon mesa]

Yeah I’ve heard about that, something about how the human subconscious has an inherent distrust of something in regards to that shape or covering. I can’t remember the science off the top of my head but it’s neat

[frozen totem]

[digital mulch]

Good little nightmarish times…

[molten talon]

Sppooooookyyyy

[glass terrace]

has anybody decoded the morse code in one of the evrima tracks?

theres literally ambient music with morse code in it

[warm oxide]

Pretty sure no ones arsed

[tall mauve]

I think people would be more willing if someone could post the song itself in here. Hell, even I'd do it

[acoustic osprey]

SOS and B-443

#isle-lore-theories message
Full track here (for one)

but the other is basically the same

[warm oxide]

I want a track that's just like horror music and a voice saying "10127810174362268" ands calling out numbers

[acoustic osprey]

If The Replicator had a voice

[warm oxide]

It would be cool

If they ever gave it one if could be distorted sounds that sound like the English language

Phoenix international terminal? Maybe that could be a thing

[old stone]

According to dondi, it will

[acoustic osprey]

Just wonder how

[old stone]

Probably some sort of synthesized voice

[warm oxide]

I would imagine it's just loads of sounds combined to make a sort of human language

[lament wing]

Glados moment

[teal junco]

whats up with the sought to "create the perfect organism" of AE?

[frozen totem]

we dont rly know

[strange shell]

diplidoculas don't exist so I guess no

[frozen totem]

this guy?

[strange shell]

No I was responding to someone else's message before it got deleted

[warm oxide]

Is anyone gonna talk about the you owe Apollo Thousand lifes

[frozen totem]

huh?

never heard of that

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know yet

[fervent vessel]

I wonder what the new hypo giga will look like

[jolly berry]

I hope they keep hyper giga the same i loved its design, hope they change hyper spino though

[frozen totem]

I've discovered something. Spero, as in Isla Spero, means "I hope" in Latin. So, i though, what does Spiro mean, as in Isla Spiro. Apparently, it means "breathe" in Latin. Anyone got any theories?

[icy onyx]

Spiro is off brand Spero cause Spero was too big, Spiro wasn’t supposed to exist in the first place, so they just shoved in a similar filler name.

[frozen totem]

dang way to kill the mood

[frozen totem]

you're welcome

[noble harbor]

This made me laugh way more than it should've

[acoustic osprey]

And now Spero is basically Spiro.
Imagine Spero never existed

[frozen totem]

no, i dont wanna

[warm oxide]

Whats the difference I'm going insane

[frozen totem]

top is spero, bottom is spiro ||spero is better||

[warm oxide]

What happened to Spero

looks so good

[frozen totem]

too big apparently but i think they definitely could've made it work

[old stone]

Spiro isn't on that map

Oh wait, there's a download thing, nvm I'm dumb

[frozen totem]

ye it was weird

[edgy pike]

Was too big for Unreal Engine 4 or something, something about tile loading I think?

[native rune]

Will they be adding those in?

[frozen totem]

eventually yes

[native rune]

How big are they

[old stone]

Tribals, aka cannibals, are probably going to be in the 8-12 foot range in terms of height

[frozen totem]

i think they're 9ft

[acoustic osprey]

Just thing bigger humans

[acoustic osprey]

Heya

[lament wing]

8-12 foot! last I heard they where gonna go around 7 foot

[livid shard]

That island is like 20km

imagine the invest

The level of time and investment to bring back the dinosaurs, Plus the islands and the cost of their maintenance must have been of enormous proportions, Æ's project must have started in the 60's

It could be like experiments and create a park for brats... (jk) or maybe they were looking for genetic novelties

even for some kind of disease

[old stone]

From what little we know of the lore, it seems that Æ was trying to create the perfect organism

@acoustic osprey knows a lot more about it then I do

[strange shell]

We don't actually know what AE's motivations are. Creating the perfect organism is a decent theory, but very vague.
I think they were trying to achieve immortality or something like that.

[acoustic osprey]

and from what we know, their projects must've shut off during the 90s

[old stone]

Well, a perfect organism, more specifically a "perfect human" would be immortal, no?

[strange shell]

What even is a perfect organism ? If such a thing was possible, nature would have created it a long time ago

[acoustic osprey]

If they were going for "Perfect Organism" I'd presume they mean "Perfect Human"

[old stone]

Yes

[old stone]

Remember that evolution is a mindless completely random phenomenon that constantly resets itself and wanders into dead ends

[ivory maple]

how much the lore get changed for now

compare to legacy

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know

[ivory maple]

actually we dont know anything about evrima right?

[acoustic osprey]

No

[ivory maple]

so what we have

[acoustic osprey]

A few things

If you count #transmissions
Almost every trail cam video
And a few extras

[ivory maple]

oh so thats all, those things like Replicator, strains, AE and PI and so on, such background things we dont know if they are changed?

[nocturne cosmos]

Nopeee we gotta wait

[ivory maple]

good to know

[slate pewter]

Oh no

Not this convo again

I hate speculating

[ivory maple]

I just wonder if the lore had changed cuz someone told me it had when the discord rebuild

but I have no impression

[slate pewter]

I believe the lore is constantly changing

I doubt Dondi wrote a book called the Isle Lore

[ivory maple]

I know there are many changes of detail, but the background?

[slate pewter]

Right now the gane has little goals they want to reach

Placing don't buildings and facilities not necessarily part of lore.

[ivory maple]

also did he say something about the "new background story" days ago, I cant catch my memory

[slate pewter]

Who knows what will come after U#9

[ivory maple]

the isle lore is just like a pool of muddy water

[slate pewter]

murky oil drained from the reductor of a helicopter that rot outside for 20 years after its last cracked in.

Anyway
My Lore theory is simple.

[loud gate]

What’s replicator?

[slate pewter]

-Human created AE
-AE bought and built up a facility island.
(Docks, Airports, Labs, Living facilities, Containment Facilities, Powerplants, Logistical facilities, Dome...)
-AE scientists stole the technology.
-The replicator.
-Technology created life.
-AE created dinosaurs and humanoids as test subjects.
-AE contained the dinosaurs in containment chambers and enclosers
-Dinosaur test subject broke out.
-AE evacuated the island.
-AE sent MTF mercenary units to contain the dinosaurs and destroy the rival escapes.

-Modern humans most likely successfully contain the dinosaurs and humanoids in weeks and AE can continue its experiences with more caution.

-AE makes a protocol and a safetylog so the previous incident should never happen again.

[AE is the main protagonist in this lore theory of mine]

[ivory maple]

doesnt Phoenix play a role in the lore

[slate pewter]

I included that

just only said
"AE stole the technology"

[acoustic osprey]

Well we don't know yet

[ivory maple]

yeah I believe the facility island was stolen from Phoenix by AE too

[acoustic osprey]

-AE scientists stole the technology.

Stole technology*

[acoustic osprey]

-AE sent MTF mercenary units to contain the dinosaurs and destroy the rival escapes.

This is confirmed

[ivory maple]

cuz the "Hell Action" (I dont know if its the real name)

[acoustic osprey]

and our "Mercs" aren't "Mercs" (Mercenaries)

if they were real "Mercs" then they would be sent off with guns etc

[ivory maple]

what this means

[acoustic osprey]

Mercs are Humans made by Apollo Engineering
They're called "Generation Two"

They were made after Tribals. Aka "Generation One"

[acoustic osprey]

Mercs are hired guns

[ivory maple]

wait Gen 2 is Mercs?

[acoustic osprey]

our "Mercs" in The Isle aren't truly "Hired Guns"

[slate pewter]

This is just stupid

[acoustic osprey]

yes.

[ivory maple]

holy

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, the community name for "Mercs" is very confusing
As confusing as people calling Tribals "Cannibals" - because people think "Cannibals" are the Eyeless

[slate pewter]

A bit unrealistic to send test subject to your facility island that you are supposed to get back

[acoustic osprey]

get back?

Who said anything about "getting back?"

[ivory maple]

but why Gen 2 do things for AE? Replicator made them right?

[acoustic osprey]

For all we know, there is nothing terribly wrong with Isla Spiro.
They can't "Get it back" as they know it's too dangerous.

So why not just use it as a testing ground?

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 2 are made by AE
Like Gen 1 (tribals)

[ivory maple]

through the replicator I thought

[slate pewter]

It's just unrealistic to abandon even the chance to get back to your island just after a small containment breach.

Humans are Greedy

[loud gate]

What’s replicator?

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know their true intentions just yet.
We don't know if AE truly "abandoned" Spiro

[ivory maple]

like, Gen 1 consider the replicator as mother?

[acoustic osprey]

We don't even know if AE are actually trying to "Get their island back" @slate pewter

[nocturne cosmos]

More like god I though

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 1 considers The Replicator as a God.
Echidna took them in as children

[loud gate]

[slate pewter]

Its not like the lore of Rust where Hapis Island was abandoned decades ago after cold war.

[ivory maple]

yeah god my bad

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[acoustic osprey]

In the name basically.
God-like AI entity on Spiro

[ivory maple]

but Gen2 didnt do the same thing

[nocturne cosmos]

Isle lore is more confusing then most video game timelines sometimes

[slate pewter]

I just try to think around with this idea in a realistic manner

[loud gate]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

because we know soo little about Evrima

[slate pewter]

That actions has consequences

Containment breach has to be contained

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, they probably cannot even "get Spiro back" fully due to Gen 1, Replicator, Echidna etc

[slate pewter]

Humans should not give up on that island because animals

[acoustic osprey]

you mean AE?

[ivory maple]

It makes sense that they would see it as a testing ground

[slate pewter]

I meant the Company yes

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, they don't need to "fully" control Spiro.
Spiro could easily now just be a test island to see how Gen 2 grows in a dangerous environment

We don't know

[slate pewter]

What testing has immense costs and results may vary.

What did you see in the emd of the 3rd JP

[acoustic osprey]

the type of testing you see for creating a perfect human
maybe?

[slate pewter]

A small military force with guns and heavy machinery landed on the Island

[acoustic osprey]

Which is not what The Isle is getting
Humans are not a militia, or a military force of any kind

[slate pewter]

What do you think how many of the formally escaped dinosaurs were slain after the events of JP3 and between JW1

I assume all of them

[ivory maple]

I think AE doenst care about that

[acoustic osprey]

It was said the Spino killed mostly everything on Site B

[slate pewter]

Isla Sorna you mean

Yes probably

[acoustic osprey]

Isla Sorna is Site B

[slate pewter]

And what stops AE to do the same in the Isle.

[acoustic osprey]

kill everything off?

[ivory maple]

no reason to do that? they still need the isle and creatures

[slate pewter]

I was really focken happy when this MTF-Mercenary idea was considered to me more than a joke.

Don't fock it up by telling me these are Gen 2 superhumans.

[acoustic osprey]

they are

[ivory maple]

lol

[slate pewter]

No Just no

[acoustic osprey]

more or less, genetically altered Humans

[slate pewter]

Bullshit

[acoustic osprey]

nope

[slate pewter]

No it's just a part of the lore that's totally worthless

[ivory maple]

well it make more sense cuz these Mercs need to respawn on the isle, just like dinos

[acoustic osprey]

nope

[acoustic osprey]

and they spawn without anything (besides a torch and knife)

[slate pewter]

Normal MTF teams
Normal equipment
Normal goals
Normal gameplay

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-its-not-funny-laugh-serious-face-gif-14631253

Tribals?
They're the previous "Generation" of Humans by AE (unofficial art)

[slate pewter]

That's what is in my head

[ivory maple]

yes, they respawn cuz Replicator makes it, like what it do on dinos and gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no.
That's not really confirmed

[ivory maple]

I know I know

[acoustic osprey]

Although that'd make sense

but, I don't see why The Replicator would bring back things like AE's Gen 2
Unless it wants to corrupt them like Gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

Although head-canon is cool.
We have actual lore/canon that bypasses it

[slate pewter]

What Isle Promised me is being a Hunting game
in a tropical place where the items you hunt are also players just like you.

[acoustic osprey]

You must accept it White Falcon!

[acoustic osprey]

Sadly, no

[ivory maple]

maybe Replicator had something broken (someone told this conjecture to me), now it keep respawn dinos and other things cuz its crazy

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

[slate pewter]

Dinosaur goals
(Eat, Sleep, nest, wonder)
and
MTF goals,
(Secure sites, eliminating threat and hunt)
sound to be a great way to make a really hardcore game out of the Isle.

[ivory maple]

yeah, little we know

[slate pewter]

They also considered vehicles

Just like in JP2

[acoustic osprey]

yes we have vehicles.
But a majority (if not all) will be from the 90s/forgotten

[slate pewter]

The Isle offered this experience

Not get 2 superhumans in jumper suits with a flashlight respawning at the replicator which then turn into a rushed gameplay
NO

[ivory maple]

actually human is real Mercs or Gen 2 doesn't affect the gameplay fundamentally does it?

[slate pewter]

The Isle need to take itself seriously

[acoustic osprey]

respawning at the replicator
?

[ivory maple]

its just roleplay, but in another background

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

Mercs being "Gen 2" means a change of intentions (most likely)

[ivory maple]

well yeah that part, but we dont know

[slate pewter]

The Isle gameplay as a mercenary should be slow, counting, even horrifying.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

We don't know how Mercs WILL be played though? (Ultimately)

[slate pewter]

you have to give the player a chance to get deeper into the game.
It's not Primal Carnage arena fight

[ivory maple]

all we know is they can get killed by dino easily

so it wont be Primal Carnage

[acoustic osprey]

and what is your point?

[slate pewter]

Much like a movie a game should know when to slow down.

[acoustic osprey]

Besides that you want Humans to be slow and a lot more "horror-based survival" than anything else in Isle

because, we don't know how Humans will function besides from how they move at the moment

[slate pewter]

Give Mercenaries goals to accomplish.
Which means teamwork and coordination

[acoustic osprey]

I understand, but this is kinda getting off from Lore now

[slate pewter]

Such as securing a site or a building

[acoustic osprey]

These are more things you should be asking in #general-feedback

We know barely anything right now

[slate pewter]

Nah bagger

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[slate pewter]

Anyway

That was only my lore theory
A Containment breach on an island where you were sent in with your team to bring back order and contain the vermins.

Other playables are just moving scenery
Mobs if you get me right

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[old stone]

Well, the issue with that is, if the mercs were sent to reclaim the island so to speak, why would they be sent in with essentially no gear?

[slate pewter]

I hope that mentality will change

[old stone]

?

[gentle vessel]

Less cost, and probably not informed of the full scenario ahead of time

Similar to how in aliens the marines got told “save the colonists” but weyland didn’t give them the full scope of the situation or fear built for colony battles

[tawny briar]

It's possible they were only sent to study the dinosaurs, but personally I think it's more likely they're trying to capture the dinosaurs or take them out.

[livid shard]

How do you know?

[old stone]

That still doesn't explain why they'd be sent in with only like, a knife and a flashlight, if that is their purpose

[old stone]

I believe it's based on the the types of vehicles and computers you can find

They're all roughly from the 90's era iirc

[icy onyx]

I believe that the isle is based off of Isla sorna possibly

And maybe that the pochers from JP2 have been recording the status on the dinosaurs to know when it's the right time to capture them

Which could explain why there are ports around the map

These represent the abandoned hatchery from JP3

Plus the Utah model is a straight off copy of the JP1 velo model

The pochers hadn't succeeded in capturing the dinos on Isla sorna before, but now that they have the right calculations, and the status on them, they could get their DNA

After they get the dino DNA, they use it to fill in some of the codes of the DNA strands to make dino copies

Why make copies of the dinosaurs?

Because the copies had been used to supply Biosyn with dinosaurs

Conclusion: The Isle is Isla Sorna, and pochers are getting status on the dinosaurs

https://c.tenor.com/As8p3-TxN5MAAAAM/dinosaurs-jurassic-park-iii.gif

[old stone]

The isle is not Jurassic park

And that theory does not take into account generation 1 and 2, the replicator, echidna, the thousand life contract, or the strains

[strange shell]

I think the reason mercs only have knives and flashlights is because they aren't coming back, the replicator is spitting them out
With the minimal gear so their chances of survival aren't too low, but not too high either

It would be a shame if someone out there stopped suffering

[old stone]

If they're created by the replicator, then why aren't they like the tribals?

[strange shell]

Cause they're more recent

[old stone]

It's heavily implied that the tribals were created by Æ, and that the replicator and echidna corrupted them and turned them away from Æ

[strange shell]

yes

Tribals are generation one

[old stone]

Yes

[strange shell]

Mercs came years later and became generation two

They will probably turn into tribals too, with time, unless something different happens

[old stone]

So if the tribals originally weren't like that, and were turned into that by the replicator, then why would the replicator pop out the mercs as not corrupted abominations that are enslaved to it?

[strange shell]

Because turning people into abominations is not the goal
It's a side-effect of being killed and resurrected 1000 times

[old stone]

I just really don't think that the replicator is making gen 2

I think gen 2 is a creation of Æ and they're sent to the island for some purpose

[strange shell]

To each their own theories

Anyway Dondi is coming back in 13 days max and give us the full lore

And I take that as a given and that we deserve it

[acoustic osprey]

Equipment mostly.

[acoustic osprey]

No, I don't think full lore

[acoustic osprey]

We know both Gen 1 and 2 were made by AE

[old stone]

Exactly

So the replicator isn't making gen 2 form what we know

[strange shell]

If he doesn't give us the full lore I'm gonna un-lore the theories

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[frozen totem]

[rustic nexus]

I still think gen 2 is just a field test

[icy onyx]

Just a theory

I was just stretching some ideas

[frozen totem]

that shouldnt even graze you mind as an idea tbh

[acoustic osprey]

Probably
Maybe to why they're not given guns

[main plank]

Will there be other models of nests?

[rustic nexus]

There are already multiple but i think thats more for #isle-discussion

[rustic nexus]

I think it might be something for overall humanity why they’re doing this

[livid shard]

As far as I know, civilians and normal people don't know about cloned dinosaurs, right?

[old stone]

We have 0 clue on the public's knowledge of Æ's actions

[livid shard]

I think People doesnt know about it

In the isle channel, The videos says something like "Copies has been deleted"

[rustic nexus]

Technically we’re all apart of AE, we’re the profiles and everyone else is staff

[acoustic osprey]

It could be a factor
It's note-worthy to recognise that nobility is referenced in #transmissions

"Rage can twist even the most noble purpose to that of cruelty."

[rustic nexus]

Yea they’re definitely up to something which I believe is to progress humanity

[acoustic osprey]

100%

Dondi said AE weren't "general evil corporation"

[rustic nexus]

Yeah I think they’re doing things that are seen as immoral

[acoustic osprey]

of course

[rustic nexus]

Somewhere in transmissions it says smithing about rising above reason

[acoustic osprey]

You must go past limit and reason. See through the door between this world and the next and take back what you've lost

[rustic nexus]

Yea

[acoustic osprey]

Basically, they're your average "We're God-talk"

which probably leads to The Replicator and why they don't have total "control" over Isla Spiro and Gen 1 (etc)

[rustic nexus]

Agreed

[acoustic osprey]

but yeah, hopefully Dondi goes on about lore this month as hinted

[rustic nexus]

Pray 🙏 and hope

[acoustic osprey]

true that

so yeah, waiting till Dondi read this channel again

[strange shell]

I'm pretty sure he reads it
But he says nothing and laughs to himself on our ignorance

[acoustic osprey]

Oh definitely, he has said he does read this channel quite occasionally

I can only presume a light look.
Until I have anything to say, obviously.

[edgy pike]

wasnt it said that we'd get some more info sometime soon?

[acoustic osprey]

June, yes. But I believe we're waiting for Dondi on his project thing

[edgy pike]

Oh nice

Wait this June or next year June

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully soon

[edgy pike]

Oh ok this June

[edgy pike]

I’d always assumed it was gonna coincide with some human related update but if we getting some external stuff straight up that’ll be good

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[edgy pike]

That time a couple years ago when the VCs were full 24/7 because of the transmitter stuff was fun

I liked the method of the lore reveals directly correlating with gameplay related reveals, like maps and playables, made it double the hype

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah, it was different and felt very indie

[edgy pike]

A lot better than the usual for other games "read this wiki to see how Glup Shitto made his way to the island in 1978"

[acoustic osprey]

True that

[slate pewter]

So the Isle will have a script book?
a lore book?

[frozen totem]

A doc

[brave adder]

i've been reading this chat and uh from what it looks like ?

The whole island is possibly a government experiment ? for bio-weaponry

not only the dinosaurs but the humans appear to be tested on and carefully watched so from reading this chat and the document i propose this

The Whole Island/Archipelago is manufactured by "AE" as a park or what used to be a park to show off genetic modification advancements i take this from the

All island visitors must wear ID tags at all g... Tracking error, please alert AE SysAdmin. Cranial abnormality detected in sequence designate AE-BLS-037, re-sequencing… Welcome to The Isle.System Ready.
Welcome to The Isle.We succeed where nature fails.Death is only the beginning.
The end is never the end is never the end is never the end-
Lockdown Protocol in effect. Checking all systems.

but at some point a cataclysm occurred causing a plethora of system failures on AE's network

ERROR 93- SYSTEM FAULT
Is anyone there?!
Initiate systems diagnostic…
14%...
40%...
77%
99%...
WARNING - SYSTEM COMPROMISED
INIT.firmware update
Please enter clearance code
*******
ERROR - Unable to establish connection to Harvest Base!
Attempting to re-establish linkup in 30 seconds…
HELP ME!
Network Intrusion Detected
INIT SiteTrace.exe
Attempting to verify source…
ERROR: Cannot identify carrier signal, satellite triangulation required
INIT. T.C. satellite-linkup...

what i am assuming is AE's network was compromised post cataclysm and people were trapped in The Isle's genetic modification experiments now the system is either being operated by itself under a contingency protocol or by someone. The AE network is rebuilding humanity and animals by re-evolving everything putting humanity as well on an accelerated evolutionary cycle leading to stronger , faster and more resilient creatures capable of re-claiming or claiming planet earth judging by the various system failures this might never happen

anyhow this was my interpretation of stuff

[frozen totem]

You can get that park part of it out the window

Also we have no idea whag Æs goal is rn

[dense turret]

There was lore??

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[brave adder]

outdated i assume ?

[frozen totem]

No just never was a thing

[brave adder]

🤔 then why have island visitor tags ? investors or somethin

i doubt if they had mercenaries go there they would be described as visitors

[acoustic osprey]

Isle "Mercs" aren't "Mercenaries/Mercs"

They're genetically made/modified humans

[brave adder]

hm

so am guessing most of my lil theory is sorta "off" ?

[acoustic osprey]

Probably

[frozen totem]

employees

[frozen totem]

i have a feeling that they're real people that just had genetic addition

but idk

[near kelp]

willy

i think the dinos no havve one

cuz of scientist modificatiom

[frozen totem]

Im sorry what was that

🤨

[rustic nexus]

iirc the bio weapon part has been thrown out the window, the park one too, the last part about restoring humanity I agree with but we just gotta see what’s true or not

[brave adder]

mhm

[rustic nexus]

Also what tim said was also true, we’re profiles so technically we’re apart of Æ

[native vault]

Jurrasic world dominoin 2 is the isle

[rustic nexus]

😱 no way

[hoary compass]

[reef frigate]

I have theory

[frozen totem]

🙄

[dark onyx]

Ok so what if The Isle and Primal Carnage are in the same universe

[old stone]

They are.
Or at least, were, we don't know if they are still in the same universe or not

[frozen totem]

the hope trailer seems to say they still are

[tawny briar]

What is Primal Carnage? (sorry I know nothing about video games-)

[dark onyx]

It’s kind of a first person shooter where you either play as marines or the dinosaurs

[tawny briar]

Ah ok

[rustic nexus]

I wouldn’t sew why they aren’t, the sos signal said something about b-443

[frozen totem]

and u heard the PC rex roar and the words "Carnage comes home" at the end of the Hope trailer i'd say they're still the same universe

[old stone]

Well, the hope trailer was like 3 years ago, so anything that was "confirmed" in it has a very real possibility of not being relevant anymore

[frozen totem]

[reef frigate]

New theory

[frozen totem]

which is?...

[acoustic osprey]

I'd still count PC (not PCE) in Isles lore still

[rustic nexus]

Oh i thought that was pce

[acoustic osprey]

No

[loud coral]

My theory is that, indeed SOMETHING is happening on the island. However I don't know what yet

[rustic nexus]

This has got to be the most accurate theory yet

[rustic nexus]

Whats the difference

[acoustic osprey]

Two different games.
Dondi was also in PC

[rustic nexus]

Ah

[hexed flax]

@acoustic osprey are you in the stress test?

[loud gate]

He is

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hexed flax]

Is there a new morse code in the main menu?

[acoustic osprey]

From what I've seen? Nothing new

However, if you think you might be able to spot anything
I have multiple streams (and there should be multiple videos by others) showing off the main menu

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hexed flax]

Might do that when update 5 is live. Trying to translate the morse code from a stream sounds annoying lol

[loud coral]

There's a a new ambient music track in evrima that has radio fuzz and morse code, I've mainly heard it around the human building in the swamp but idk if that has anything to do with it playing

[livid shard]

Yes. They are

I imagine that they are a kind of competition in a genetic battle

what I have to say is that the pteranodon in primal carnage is very similar to the one in The Isle evrima

XD

[frozen totem]

PC and TI pteras look nothing alike

[dark onyx]

TI’s pteranodon looks more proper in stature but skinnier wings, PC’s pteranodon looks more gargoil’ish in the way it stands with fatter wings

[frozen totem]

Exactly

[wicked brook]

I have a theory. The isle does not take place on earth. My main reason for this is the timing of the day night cycle being off.

[rustic nexus]

Dondi was thinking whether not the location should be on earth so maybe it isn’t even on earth

[frozen totem]

Its on earth. The day night thing's because its a game

Also i dont think dondi ever considered TI to not be on earth but i guess who knows

[acoustic osprey]

Earth (?)

[hexed flax]

On the twitter profile from the OlympusTransmitter it says that it us located on earth

[frozen totem]

alr thats what i thought

[native vault]

My Theory is That A Group Of scientist’s Got DNA from dinosaur Bones and Then Made real life dinosaurs, And Because Of the massive change in Oxygen Caused the dinosaurs created to be weak and Not Fun to watch which causes the dinosaurs made a waste of money, So The Scientists Made Super Duper Hybrids Of Trex’s Giga’s And Spinos And those hybrids broke out of there containment and killed all of the humans on the island Which Causes a Proto-Type of an oxygen changing Gas That can be used to make Non-Super Duper Hybrids Able to breath the current oxygen Level That Humans Can, and the Oxygen Changing gas was broken by the Spino trex and giga hybrids Which caused them to have an over douse of oxygen and die, The Oxygen Changing gas Spread around the island Makes a massive Dust Like Sphere around the island where the dinosaurs lived Dinosaurs broke out of there holding place aka the Dome and that leads us to the current day. 😄 (Also all the dinosaurs has a Chip in there brain which goes all funky where near human camps where they may live, Hense why its only there where they go funky.)

[frozen totem]

tf?

[knotty remnant]

I saw this reaction first and was like "it can't be that confusing. Let me read it- " Then I read it and had same reaction

[frozen totem]

[rustic nexus]

The only thing that you said that is partly true was the scientists creating super versions of apexes and other dinos, but they aren't hybrids. The rest is just idk

[frozen totem]

they could be hybrids in the sense that they used other genomes to make em

[frosty raven]

If the Isle isnt on earth, than when humans are added to the isle they would be considered test subjects? or researchers. Sent to another planet with no main land but instead large islands, there mission was to collect evidence of other life. The boar and deer could've been brought as food, but instead escaped and became apart of the Dinosaurs diets. The last survivors have lost contact with Earth and now are trying to survive in the hostile planet along side dinosaurs.

[frosty raven]

hence the structures and such they have built

[safe ravine]

true, the isle is on "earth(?)" I don't know if that means on earth but not our version of earth or, a different planet that is like earth but in a different universe or galaxy, or something else entirely

[frosty raven]

Possible scientists got to involved and somehow made the moon a smaller earth?

[old stone]

Ok, speaking scientifically here, in order to make the moon habitable it would require an absolutely staggering amount of resources, and take hundreds if not thousands of years

[frosty raven]

Oh yeah of course, although dinosaurs wouldn't be able to exist either, which is why its merely a theory. But i get what you mean :)

[acoustic osprey]

Video game

[plucky delta]

I like how I open this chat and people are questioning weather or not the isle takes place on earth LOL

[knotty remnant]

Theories room about the game

[old stone]

Fair enough

[rustic nexus]

^

[valid sun]

Me reading these theories

[native vault]

The super duper hybrids are the hypo spino, rex and giga.

[acoustic osprey]

they're not hybrids

[frozen totem]

I just have one thing to say to you:

[sharp knoll]

They are genetically modified

[old stone]

It's not an invalid theory, and in any case it seems a little rude to tell them to shut about it

[frozen totem]

too out there

[old stone]

In the isle lore there are actual Kaiju, god ai, deformed mutants, strains, a metamorphosing weird reptile thing, and actual telekinesis, so the possibility of it taking place on another planet, especially since there was that one thing that said "earth (?)" Isn't too far fetched

[frozen totem]

still earth

[paper thicket]

ye

[native vault]

Humans left earth after unleasing a sample of dinosaur dna to the world, And evil companies exploited that and created dinosaurs and spread them world wide killing most of the humans on earth, And when u die the small text like code on the bottom left of your screen is humans attempting to conatact anyone on earth.

[frozen totem]

Im sorry but thats just way too out there to be even remotely true

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[rustic nexus]

💀

[rain lake]

Well, dreaming is free

[icy onyx]

sure seems like it because humans have been absent from development for 5 years now

[naive meadow]

Hello everyone, can I recommend my own server here

[sonic rampart]

You can share it in #unofficial-isle-communities

[naive meadow]

ok

[inland jewel]

my lore theorie is that the creatures the are dinosaurs

[eternal comet]

Why do you think is that

[frozen totem]

You sure that's a lore theory?

[icy onyx]

yeah

[pale canopy]

Meta. Meta means you understand the concept beyond it's system.
For example you feel emotions, but only if you learn about psychology you understand why you feel them in the first place, where they derive from and why they exist. You're in a meta state. Your knowledge is beyond your evolutionary, primal, survival response.
Another example Metadata. Metadata is data about data. Data contains information about who has produced them, when, where and in what programming format. It is aware of itself. (In theory)

Imagine the isle like a pyramid power hierarchy. The pillar stones and fundamental platform of the game's reality/universe is our reality. Our world to exist in the first place. As a game in a computer, which the isle's developers invented. That's the meta state. You understand the isle is a game beyond it's world.

The lowest pyramid stones. Matter, ground, and perceived reality by dinosaurs, tribals and AI. The matter out of which the map is constructed is purely fictional and programmed inside a computer. You can't measure how real the materials (water, stones, leaves, skin) of the restricted world are. Spiro is primitively build. Physics have exceptions and errors.
The worth of the isle is only measurable through the perspective of the developers/programmers of the isle according to the sales of the game, it's popularity and the emotional investment of the developers.

The middle pyramid stones. Life, the instruments to perceive reality. The AI's, if they have a consciousness are cognitively very restricted. They don't have programs to perceive through their senses. Their flight/ fight response has errors. If they were capable to perceive reality and were smart enough, they would quickly understand they life in a simulation.
To the dinosaurs in the game their world is real. They don't realise, that they are a game with a puppet master who made them and programmed them to be who they are.
It would be a revelation to the dinosaurs to understand that they were brought back to life by humans in a test tube in a lab.

The highest pyramid stones. Players. Players bought the game, understand what the game is, play the game, program the game if they are devs.

The golden pyramidion. The conspiracy about our reality. If you'd take the isle as an example to go meta on our universe, you'd end-up with something like the matrix of some sort. Imagine we were also programmed and made by something that is way smarter, way bigger than we could ever coprehand with our restricted minds and lacking senses. We are not able to fathom who they are, why they made us and how their perceived reality looks like. And because our universe is so perfectly crafted, (we don't even see the programming errors like the AI don't, and we don't have the programmed senses to do so) we will never have proof if this conspiracy can be true or not.

[frozen totem]

What is even going on anymore

[pale canopy]

XD yeah it's hard to understand. do you like it though?

[frozen totem]

I didnt read it

[sonic rampart]

This channel is for discussing the lore about The Isle. If you wish to discuss the concept of a videogame as a microcosm of reality, you can go to #offtopic-discussion

[frigid plank]

dinosaur

[icy onyx]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Not really a lore theory.
Better to ask in #isle-discussion

[teal furnace]

ok, sorry i'm new to the server

[acoustic osprey]

No worries!

[old stone]

Uh... Lightclaw

You can't type in #phase-two-archive

[acoustic osprey]

yeah true

@teal furnace in #isle-discussion
Sorry, autocorrect does wonders

^

[frozen totem]

(Lore)

[vivid moth]

And it was all a dream

[icy onyx]

yeah

[shell remnant]

Theory: AE dabbles in quantum mechanics and multiverse theory. Strains and Cannibals might be how the species their DNA is based on evolved in an alternate reality to the Isle's. Which the implications for that might mean that Legacy and EVIRMA are actually just alternate versions of each other. Might sound stupid, but it's a cool thought.

[sand seal]

Temporal shifting 3d printed dinosaurs with people brains.

[frozen totem]

Hmm?

[kindred zephyr]

❌

[placid glacier]

[tacit raft]

Hypo dinos come from Chernobyl.

[sand seal]

Those that know know.

[acoustic osprey]

Oh please no

Honestly it wasn't a bad theory with good evidence in old legacy. But for the type of game they're aiming for, it's really juxtaposed

[placid glacier]

I remember all from my time at AE

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-frank-castle-punisher-no-frank-castle-no-no-no-no-gif-24489266

[placid glacier]

[acoustic osprey]

[shell remnant]

Theory: Magnatyrannus is the "Big Daddy" from Primal Carnage lore.

Ya know, the parent Rex of all the Phoenix Rexes

[old stone]

Actually, from what we know of the lore, it'd be the opposite, since Æ is the one that stole assets from Phoenix International during operation inferno

[cinder cargo]

i like it

[clever silo]

<@&401466542140817419>

Stupid scam bot

[rapid chasm]

I believe its the same with the quetz.

[acoustic osprey]

B-443, which was slightly hinted in the recent morse code track is Big Daddy

[old stone]

I see

Perhaps it was one of the assets stolen by Æ then

[stuck steeple]

Wait Æ is on splicing DNA so hunting down the dinos would help how? I mean what are they making

[acoustic osprey]

hunting down what dinos?

realistically, AE wouldn't need to hunt down any of their dinos on Spiro.

Other dinos not made by AE (like PC's Big Daddy)? Sure

[undone grail]

AE got 4 assets during operation inferno they got magnatyrannus, quetz, the unknown one, and the nova

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[undone grail]

Ngl I had to do some isle wiki to find it

[acoustic osprey]

Well, in legacy. But we can presume the same applies in The Isles current lore- with a few minor tweeks

[undone grail]

I hope one day they just do something with lore because it sounds cool

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[rustic nexus]

Could b-443 breaking out possibly be apart of operation inferno? The employees would be more focused on evacuation than protecting their dna strands

[acoustic osprey]

Most probably yes

Who knows, AE could've been the reason Big Daddy broke out

[rustic nexus]

Yes

What if the radio tower is picking up phoenix transmissions

[undone grail]

I fill like AE is this reckless company that just doesn’t care about the damage they do

[rustic nexus]

Yea Æ is definitely neutral/chaotic good

[undone grail]

They better do something with the isle’s lore when they get done with majority of evrima

[rustic nexus]

We were supposed to get lore news last month but sadly that didn’t happen

[acoustic osprey]

[acoustic osprey]

Definitely people who like to play with the rules a lot

[undone grail]

Yes

That’s how I view them being

[strange shell]

Oh that's right
We're in july already and we haven't got lore

[undone grail]

Ok just what the hell is a tessoplastic

[strange shell]

That's it
I unlore the theories
My theory is that the reason mercs and tribals are here is to allow human/dinosaur interaction, as Dondi once stated, he wanted The Isle to be "the ultimate dinosaur game". Most dinosaur games involve dinos interacting with modern humans, or primitive humans, but they very rarely do both. The choice of putting both factions into the same game creates a trinity that, not only reminds people of universes they may have loved like Jurassic Park or Dinotopia, it also breathes some fresh air into the genre. AE doing genetic modifications is an excuse to make all these three factions encounter in the same stage, and allow some creative freedom on dinosaur designs and behaviours.

[strange shell]

Some potentially scrapped strain

[undone grail]

Yeah good because I don’t know what they would have done with that strain tbh

[rustic nexus]

Tbh i hope they do scrap tisso

[undone grail]

Tisso looks to be to much like something that’s extra and don’t need

Tbh

[rustic nexus]

Hyper/Neuro/Magna is enough (is magna even a strain?)

[undone grail]

I don’t think it is because it’s just one of one Dino

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes

[rustic nexus]

Ah

[undone grail]

Like hypo there’s 5 Dino’s for type h yea 5 utah is one and magna is just one of like it’s its own thing

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, I guess that's more of a reason to The Isle's basis- rather the story of Isle's lore

But yeah, understandable

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, who knows.

[undone grail]

Nvm I think magna is a strain I think they just made a rex one tho

[acoustic osprey]

It's technically a strain
But also a very pure strain, iirc
Unlike other strains, Magnas don't revolve around the boosting of one typical section
Eg. Hypers have a "hyper endocrine"

Magnas are the "pure strain", to say the least

[undone grail]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

But.

I could be very wrong.

[undone grail]

They made a magna raptor too

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah!

[fickle heron]

It still isn't a great idea and will be a massive challenge to balance.

[acoustic osprey]

Oh well. That's down to opinion and time

[fickle heron]

It isn't opinion, it is common sense. Trying to put 3 games into one is a major challenge that even fully staffed development teams would have trouble pulling off.

[acoustic osprey]

I presume you watch X'Zaguer's video

I don't find it very hard to believe we can get 3 "different" aspects within a game.
When realistically- It's not a new thing nor a complex idea.

It's not a "new" feature that'll be added because the devs thought it'd be cool

Mercs, Tribals and Dinosaurs have all been planned and have been in Isle's lore for years

[long onyx]

wait so guys

what was the funny lore thing dropping around june

[acoustic osprey]

Some sort of canonised lore drop
Probably through Dondi's twitch or #transmissions

or some other place

[long onyx]

june is over 😔

[acoustic osprey]

the quantity? Who knows
But it might've cleared some things up

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, Dondi said "Around"
and he said he was working on something a few weeks ago

Who knows. Dondi being Dondi, he might've forgotten about it or decided to post-pone it for the better

[oblique surge]

Inb4 it was supposed to come out with U5 but funny epic games problem

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fickle heron]

Who?

[acoustic osprey]

Your statement pretty much mirrors his

[fickle heron]

I don't know who they are and what I said isn't exactly a revolutionary statement, people have said it before and they will continue to do so.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-got-that-dark-helmet-spaceballs-did-you-catch-that-is-that-clear-gif-24854395

[fickle heron]

Don't get me wrong I like the isle but I am not going to kiss ass because of promises that may or may not happen. Yeah I would like 57 creatures, yeah I would like to have mercs and tribals and for it all to be balanced. I just don't see it happening.

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, we've seen all three factions in-game before

Two of those actually being in Evrima

• One on the main Evrima branch, one previewed on the Open QA branch for months

[nocturne cosmos]

[fickle heron]

Yeah but they are incomplete as per usual.

[acoustic osprey]

It is in EA
Dinos still getting their mechanics
Vis, realistically, the only dev working on anything Human-related till U9 finishes

[little heath]

[twilit crown]

Prob in thenyaw a group of a special organization called AE wanted to make Dino’s so they lucky found a solution and made Dino’s but something went wrong and a special Dino’s were called hypos hypos destroy the factory and went off but most of them died due to stuff like drown and there Skeleton sink into the ocean so AE decided to restart but they need to kill the Dino’s in order to get there dna so a new chapter starts called evrima

[hoary compass]

Primal carnage

[acoustic osprey]

Phoenix International

[hoary compass]

Which is also part of primal carnage

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hoary compass]

How tf are they linked together then…because both have there own directions and design

[acoustic osprey]

Dondi

[hoary compass]

Oh yea right “no I want to do it my way”

[acoustic osprey]

Isle + PC = Connected

But PCE? = Not connected

[hoary compass]

hmm

phoenix international is still part of pce but I think both strived away from each other when pce returned development

idk It can be seen as an alternate universe

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, PCE's lore is not and wont be tied
Definitely, think of it as an alternate universe
"if Apollo Engineering never existed"

[hoary compass]

one universe has phoenix international being part of the isle and the other universe has phoenix international being part of pce and primal carnage

[acoustic osprey]

etc etc.
Because Dondi was in PC (and PC is no longer continued)
Dondi wants to continue that story through The Isle

[hoary compass]

primal carnage knock off

wait till they add magnus spino

[acoustic osprey]

well I mean they are very much the same. Big Daddy and Magna Rex (Pretty much)

Which is cool.
I hope we get some PC easter eggs

in the far future

[hoary compass]

yea magna rex is pretty much the isle's version of primal carnage rex

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

Something something. Operation Inferno
AE took multiple assets from PC (Phoenix Corp)

[hoary compass]

I hope when evrima rex comes out they use the old rex calls instead of the edit magnus calls we have on legacy

[acoustic osprey]

they probably wont. But who knows.

[hoary compass]

yea but if they just used the magnus calls and edit I will riot

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[sharp knoll]

Isn't Magna Rex a perfect Hypo

[acoustic osprey]

Not really

[sharp knoll]

Talking about Primal Carnage, I think The Isle is not connected with PCE and PC. It can be connected with Primal Carnage Genesis, PC game that was cancelled on 2012. Because Big Daddy is related only from PCG and fact that Olympus Transmitter posted the picture of the doors and that doors are from Primal Carnage Genesis.

But yeah we got actually another picture from PC

The big board where it says "For a batter tomorrow"

and it was from the teaser "Hope"

[acoustic osprey]

It's connected with PC

[sharp knoll]

Well yeah...

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-right-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-5292336

[acoustic osprey]

Of course

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-indeed-mustache-oh-gif-11175304

[sharp knoll]

But isn't Dondi tried to say that PC is not connected

[acoustic osprey]

No that's with PCE?

[sharp knoll]

just because of the first release of Magna Rex

I mean he tried at the beginning of The Isle

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
The Isle doesn't directory correlate with any of those games

Yes, it contains multiple aspects of PC.
But the "backstory" for Phoenix and other contents revolved can be different and altered

And currently
We're waiting to know from Dondi on what is still in and what is not

[sharp knoll]

Yeah is like Dondi just got license to the PC story but only for changing his own story

[sharp knoll]

He is always busy

[acoustic osprey]

If you say it enough times here

Then he'll finally see it some time in the future

[sharp knoll]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

[sharp knoll]

By the way I got what he said that PC is not connected

[acoustic osprey]

Because, he still says he casually reads over some of the contents here

[acoustic osprey]

Well yeah, we're not getting PC in the isle

[sharp knoll]

Just some backstories

[acoustic osprey]

The only thing we'll get from PC is what happened between AE and PC

[sharp knoll]

like PI and Big Daddy

[acoustic osprey]

Which we've seen some aspects of that through Legacy

[sharp knoll]

You mean "PI"

[acoustic osprey]

Phoenix Corp

[sharp knoll]

Good

[acoustic osprey]

(I'm still referring to PI)

[ionic timber]

Is there a site or something where I can go read the lore guys?

[rustic nexus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit

[acoustic osprey]

^

Holds a collection of old and new lore.
For what we know, anything in "Old Lore" may or may not come back as canon

[loud adder]

^

Could’ve all been rewritten

[acoustic osprey]

Waiting for another "Lore Stream" by Dondi again

[loud adder]

Lore is done too iirc

He was writing the ending a while ago

[acoustic osprey]

I really like the idea of it being rewritten.
As cool as Legacy lore is- starting again is always a nice change of things

Obviously we can have the same base characters and companies
Phoenix International still existing

[loud adder]

Dr. Vega

[acoustic osprey]

Dr. Vega

[loud adder]

[acoustic osprey]

Hoping if Dondi makes another Lore Stream, it's during a time I'm active and able to record

Would LOVE to do a MeatyLock-style video.

[loud adder]

YES

[acoustic osprey]

Especially since these past 2 years, I've been really interested in analysing Evrima's new lore

[loud adder]

Same

[acoustic osprey]

Being pretty set in stone in Sea of Thieves' lore.
The Isle is the next story I really wanna dive in deeper

Especially remembering Dondi's old tweet about how it should end

https://twitter.com/NotTheDondi/status/1352630636477968385 Hoping he stays with it

Dondi (@NotTheDondi)

So the main bulk story for the Isle is drafted and complete from the narrative standpoint.

I've made four possible endings.

What kind of ending are you hoping for?

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Twitter · Jan 22, 2021, 2:54 PM

[frank wren]

@acoustic osprey explain basic lore plzzz

[acoustic osprey]

Let me go over what is confirmed, given and the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
In the 90s (approximate), AE also made mutated humans
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

These Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs"/Humans

There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

[frank wren]

:D

thank you

[old stone]

"these dinosaurs are known as tribals"

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-nass-shaking-head-no-star-wars-gif-11562355

[old stone]

I apologize

[acoustic osprey]

never happened

[old stone]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[loud gate]

Mercs are created by AE too?

Made in lab?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Created or men and women hired to be genetically modified

[weak sluice]

Does the isle even have an lore anymore

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[frozen totem]

I thought they were actual ppl with genetic addition

Also im unmuted!

[acoustic osprey]

Well, we're not sure if they were all just MADE in a lab
OR they were genetically modified people "hired" ||Giving you a good reason to call them Mercs||

[frozen totem]

Yeah the "or" was basically my thought process

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[frozen totem]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

I think "Hiring people" is better

also makes more sense

[frozen totem]

And makes them seem less evil in a sense

ig

[acoustic osprey]

Rage can twist even the most noble purpose to that of cruelty

"Noble purpose"
In reference to Tribals

We can, at least, presume that Tribals (Gen 1) were DEFINITELY contracted/hired ||Thousand Life Contract!?!?||

Mercs (Generation Two)?
Well, if Tribals were... then Mercs can definitely be in that field too

We can treat the "Noble Contract" that Generation One took in resemblance to Astronauts- especially those during the Cold War

Although I doubt AE "lost" (If that is correct still) proper control over Spiro ||Why? The Replicator?|| during The Cold War I'd say more mid-90s to late 90s

[acoustic osprey]

But the actual "Contract" a Tribal would've taken meant would've understood the risks, of sorts (as how an Astronaut knows things can go wrong. They can easily die)

But yeah. I presume these small bits of information on how Generation 1 + 2 were created will be revealed (and teased) in the upcoming future, hopefully.

[frozen totem]

Info 👍

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-love-and-thunder-thor-odinson-notice-me-hello-gif-25426276

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[acoustic osprey]

please

[loud gate]

Lore theory:

(Say something cool)

[acoustic osprey]

don't know what else

[half relic]

Raar rarr, grrrrrrr raar, rrrrrrrraaarrrrrr, rar, grrr grrr

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, the same

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[sand seal]

I don’t know the new lore, but old lore was pretty bad ass.

[proven lava]

what was the old lore

[loud gate]

I don’t know any lore

[acoustic osprey]

Old legacy lore

[livid shard]

I think legacy and Evrima lore are the same

[frozen totem]

Nope. That is simply false

[livid shard]

Oh

[shell remnant]

you are objectively wrong

[livid shard]

I didnt know about it

they are not canon

[frozen totem]

Almost everything from legacy can be assumed scrapped until we get the lore drop from dindo

[acoustic osprey]

Not really

We don't know what aspects of Legacy lore WILL be making it in Evrima

[nocturne cosmos]

bassicly just act as if their is currently no lore

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-confused-gif-18767409

[rain mortar]

The lore is that there is an island with dinosaurs on it.

[naive tulip]

I certainly hope the old lore comes back to Evirma, I really want more of that Neurotonic Nonsense pumped directly into my veins.

And I think the idea of Gen 1 and Gen 2 humans not really being allies to is also fun.

Basically, I'm looking forward to all the implied poor relations with literally everything on the isle, and terrifying monsters stalking all of it.

[acoustic osprey]

Well, yeah. Most old characters/monsters will most likely come back

Gen 1 (Tribals)
Gen 2 (Mercs) fighting sounds good

I presume Tribals sacrificing Mercs

In terms of actual "OLD LORE"
I hope most is changed, deleted and/or just new things added

[naive tulip]

They better, otherwise I will cry

Wanna be a spoopster, doesn't matter if I do that as either a raging Bioweapon or a horrible Misuse of Lab Equipment that escaped

And honestly I feel like Gen 1 will get some weird changes, since looking at all the old assets only makes it pretty clear they are more in touch with whatever black magic is going on on the isle then what Gen 2 would be comfortable with

And looking at everything we do have, only counting assets and completely disregarding previous lore, we have nothing to speculate on or make assumptions with, which leaves us with wild imaginations and only faint hints of rampant genetic augmentation that has clearly gotten too far

Which as a premise is fantastic, especially since we DO have all those old assets and concept art to show us how wild this will get

I can't wait for these things to be unleashed on the Isle

[acoustic osprey]

excluding what we see from the new content in The Official YT
and what we can speculate from #transmissions

[supple rune]

wth is the current lore god damn

[acoustic osprey]

... very yeah
In the process of waiting

[supple rune]

Do we even have a basic idea of the lore? 💀

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[supple rune]

besides the dinosaurs are engineered or something

[acoustic osprey]

well, which aspect do you want?

[supple rune]

the current lore

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, of the "basic idea"
Excluding the obvious obvious dinosaurs are engineered

[supple rune]

of the current lore

okay uhhh where are the normal human government or something if dinosaurs are alive in this world

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
This should give you a good idea of "Mercs" and what they are

#isle-lore-theories message
This is a more summarised stuff over AE

[supple rune]

also is the lore connected with legacy lore or...

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and No

[supple rune]

so all that time of figuring out legacy lore was for nothing

[acoustic osprey]

Look at Legacy lore as Star Wars Legends

Legends isn't OFFICIAL canon.
But, large aspects of Legends tie in with the movies.

Legacy in The Isle.
Some parts are canon, but other parts no.

It's all up to Dondi tells us

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows.
Some might be crucial.

I presume anything related to Phoenix International
And Operation Inferno

[supple rune]

wth is operation inferno?

[acoustic osprey]

something on the line of a raid from AE in PI (Phoenix Int.)

[eager marsh]

isn’t that where AE bombed PI and killed all the dinos on the island or something like that

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much.
It's how they got Magnas, pretty much.

Big Daddy died (iirc), etc.

[blissful forge]

i wonder if the matriarch is going to come back... in the lore... i hope it gets introduced to the game tho

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

[green pond]

yo

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[oblique surge]

because AE decided to make them
maybe they wanted to test something
maybe hypsi filled an important niche in some ecosystem they were building
maybe they just felt like it

[old stone]

Maybe there was actually several different branches at Æ working on different solutions to the same problem, and had different results, which would also be an explanation to some of the design inconsistencies, ie why some creatures are very different from their irl counterparts and why others are essentially a 1 for 1 translation

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows, yeah.
Separate branches sounds sick

As much as I love the idea of PI vs AE

I could imagine multiple branches having some sort of quarrel

Although, I just the idea of trying to split the community up into 2/several different factions and promote some sort of proper PvP aspect

rather than the relatively lesser combat orientated lifestyle it seems to be upfront (which, isn't bad)

[old stone]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

But in the future.
Especially as a LTE

[old stone]

I was thinking something along the lines of like, different branches wanting you to do different things, and also having you stop other branches from achieving their goals

Basically have like, a political rivalry of sorts among Æ

[acoustic osprey]

I think the idea of slow turmoil works.

At least, upfront, most/all (depending on the number) of AE branches work in unison

But who knows what Dondi wants

inner AE rivarly? Sounds cool, but not even work in lore

[old stone]

True

[acoustic osprey]

(in lore)

[old stone]

We will have to see

[acoustic osprey]

PvP-wise?
Could definitely work very well

[old stone]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-tf2memes-gif-23315291

[old stone]

Getting into a gunfight with another group of gen 2 over who gets control of a bunker

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much just getting TF2 vibes from it

But it'd be such a cool concept that I saw recently within Sea of Thieves story-wise

[digital mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/youtube-youtuberank-meme-gif-22981530

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[scarlet grotto]

will we ever know the full story?

[old stone]

At some point, most likely

[icy onyx]

Bru what is this lore all I know is Æ madde replicator and replicator made Dino, hypo and nuro and maybe v3 and Spyro.

My head canon for the replicator is that it’s a AI that was created by Æ but it grew sentience took over the island made Its own version of dinosaurs which explains why they are not 100% accurate and then made the tribals and cannibal’s as it’s own version of humans. The mercenaries were sent by Æ to destroy the replicator and take back the island

Ik my head cannon is dumb but that’s the story I came up with the little info I know

[old stone]

Tribals, also known as generation 1, were most likely made by Æ

On top of that, the mercs aren't actually mercenaries, but likely another creation of Æ, since they're known as generation 2

[icy onyx]

Oh cool

[fringe marsh]

Ehhh, but here's the thing. Legacy isn't actually better than Evrima unlike how Legends >>>> Disney Canon

[scarlet grotto]

what is the replicator

is it canon or head canon

[nocturne cosmos]

canon

[icy onyx]

Yea it’s canon

[scarlet grotto]

is there a wiki article for it?

[nocturne cosmos]

if u look in pins their is a google doc best place

[icy onyx]

Maybe, I usually see people talk about it in this discord server and just pieced it together

[scarlet grotto]

its weird how iv never seen it mentioned anywhere asides from that google doc

[nocturne cosmos]

im sure some youtubers have it in old videos but all the lore rn is old af

[scarlet grotto]

in the document it only says that the replicator has its defenders, and that it is insufficient

[old stone]

We know essentially nothing about the replicator other then that it is maybe a machine

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, especially through dondi streams

[acoustic osprey]

A machine AI.
Praised by The tribals

[strange shell]

It's also a god

[sharp knoll]

I remember someone said that Replicator is controlled by Echidna