#isle-lore-theories

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coral light
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What exactly are the eyeless?

swift robin
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My headcanon is that they are tribals who have achieved great enough favor with the replicator to be gifted a new form.

rustic halo
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How would you gain favor? Is there any hint at the Replicator’s goal?

shy sonnet
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I think you gain favor by sacrificing

swift robin
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We have information on its motivation. One motivation is to collect as much data as possible. We don't know about its goals per se, or if it has more than one motivation

quiet sorrel
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Maybe tribals will have goals to achieve to gain the information. Maybe they will have to hunt dinosaurs, mercs and strains in order to sacrifice and gain the replicators favor

tough nymph
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bringing modern day tanks to the island wouldnt of been a good idea

potent cobalt
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then helicopters

prisma chasm
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Other all terrain vehicles would be available too. What about 4-wheelers or can-ams?

strange shell
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AE and PC don't have personal armies. Otherwise they wouldn't be hiring mercenaries.

potent cobalt
strange shell
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I know, but mercenaries rarely use tanks or bombers. We know AE has vehicles on the island, but they're only utilitary ones, like gyrocopters or jeeps for travelling across the land.

icy onyx
potent cobalt
quiet sorrel
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military vehicles would just damage the ecosystem AE made which would cost them even more money to repair

quiet sorrel
potent cobalt
oblique lichen
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I have a distinct feeling that AE probably isn't going to want to make a big scene cleaning up. It's easier, cheaper, and most importantly more discrete moving mercs around than moving around military grade vehicles

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I can't imagine what they were doing was entirely legal, and as far as I'm aware the entire thing is currently isolated on the handful of islands the game takes place on, meaning at this point getting things done as quickly and quietly as possible likely the priority

quiet sorrel
oblique lichen
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Exactly. If it ever broke out onto the mainland THEN I could see military grade vehicles being deployed, especially if hypos are in play, but for the current operation they're arguably counterintuitive to what's needed more than likely

quiet sorrel
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i feel strains are also a reason to keep quiet as hypers alone would be quite a unstoppable force on the battle field in terms of ground force

swift robin
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In Ancient Greece, maybe. I don't think any dinosaur, strain or otherwise, would fare well against modern artillery such as missiles. But there are other reasons for AE to want to keep their operations secret. Especially if their AI has gone rogue and has its own agenda that they can't account for.

strange shell
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Don't forget some of them can summon thunderstorms and they have the Replicator, who can literally bring back the dead and create entire regions, on their side. I'm also pretty sure mercs aren't here to kill the dinos anyway.

loud stag
# strange shell Don't forget some of them can summon thunderstorms and they have the Replicator,...

Same. Theyre either there to recover the Replicator, Research pertaining to the Replicator and relevant operations involving it, or perhaps to re-establish a presence on the island in order to gain some semblance of control over the Isle again. Doing things like occupying the buildings and repairing systems and power so that either A: The scientists can get back to work on their projects or B: They can recover all relevant Data to the secret projects or the Replicator itself.

native oracle
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Oh

mint loom
# loud stag Same. Theyre either there to recover the Replicator, Research pertaining to the ...

well if the replicator was the one who booted them off the island in the first place I doubt it'd want them back. if anything the mercs are there to clear a path for scientist teams to come in and attempt to disable the replicator, then it's just a waiting game for all of the current dinosaurs to either
a. starve
b. fight to death
or c. mercs use tranquilizers to incapacitate the dinosaurs and move them to a new facility for further testing

quiet sorrel
mint loom
# quiet sorrel i think the problem is mostly the replicator and its influence over the tribals....

the hard part though would be actually dealing with the replicator. we've discussed how it can transfer human consciousness into the bodies of horrifying beasts, animals that have been extinct for millions of years with relative ease, how do we prevent the replicator from taking over the mercs minds? or the scientists? it was said before that the replicator did infact take over some scientists that stayed on the island, but how exactly did the replicator get them to it?
the thing im having trouble wrapping my head around is if the replicator is a physical object or an aura around the island. how can it do the things it does while stuck inside of a machine?

quiet sorrel
mint loom
# quiet sorrel Yeah like the replicator could almost be anything and be anywhere on the island ...

I think I remember hearing a rumor of there being a singleplayer story line aspect to The Isle, possibly that could reveal more information as to what the replicator actually is and how it works.
How I believe it to be is, as we've all discussed, a machine-learning AI that was given unrestricted access to AE hardware. With this new-found access, the replicator figured out what AE planned to do, so what did it do? It did it, in the most simple and streamlined process. Why make your own brain when you can just take someones brain? What I believe is happening is (Like the EMP spino) its sending out electromagnetic waves in a certain frequency that to our brains interprets it as 'thoughts', hence luring people into the replicators grasp

sturdy phoenix
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Okay, sorta new here, but both a gameplay and lore thing I gotta ask. Wouldn't it be somewhat likely that mercs and other humans would find the idea of taking dino eggs/growing their own to be an attractive prospect to counter the wild dangers of the island?

quiet sorrel
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I think it potentially would but some species may not be good for it as they could mostly be solitary creatures or generally not very social. Creatures like the rex and other apexes would be a good example as creatures that may not be good for it. Then again there may not be a need and it may be more dangerous as those creatures could attract others maybe making it more dangerous.

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They would probably only take eggs to send back for research purposes.

mint loom
# sturdy phoenix Okay, sorta new here, but both a gameplay and lore thing I gotta ask. Wouldn't ...

although they made their own dinosaurs, it doesn't mean that they're still not how they used to be. their thought processes are still to survive, and not to surrender.
I think mercs would definitely try to get eggs to send them to AE, possibly to see what genetic affects (if any) happens to cycling thru the replicator numerous times, as it can be inferred that with each death you dont actually die, your mind is just translated into a new body.
maybe the replicator is running its own tests to find the perfect specimen so it can stop replicating all together

woeful chasm
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Also we don't know the extent of the replicator's influence and such. I'd imagine it is possible that the mercs keep trying to return to the island but are basically fought off by the "replicator" and probably tribals

mint loom
rancid storm
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so I my theories is that at the start a small group was trying to see what dinosaurs would behave like & just awnser a lot of questions that we had about dinosaurs so after awhile of trial by fire they made dinosaurs that could breath and eat then they got cocky & tried to remake what some of you would call mother nature they would continue to fine tune the dinosaurs were quite sucsesfull they were able to make the dinosaurs have baby's & more dinosaurs then we're added they tried to make an intire ecosystem & they did pretty good then a small group of the humans started experimenting with hybrids and the experiments were called hypo's the main group didn't like the idea that's why they kept it in secret it & was very organized there & the habitat was butifull but behind the sences & below the dirt was metal & robots making sure everything thing was ok if there was a sickness the Sytem would help slowly it became more automated & there were no more gards but there gard tower remained & the radio towers also dams but remember the small group and the hypo's they got out & destroyed & killed almost everything the Sytem could only save so many species then it all went down hill from there the hypo's got out of the facility & destroyed so much then when it calmed down the hypo's bread but they were dying out cause they were huge and had alot of problems but then the humans struck back & kill most of they hypo's but the hypo's were smart they worked together & pushed the humans back but most of the hypo's are now in the habitat & anytime they would attack they would kill & kill and not stop untill they die or they hibernate but the Sytem was not slacking any time they hypo's were out of hibernation the Sytem would tell every dino and every thing around the fasilty to RUN now here we are (editors note sorry if there isn't . , ECT ECT & sorry for not talking about the other maps chat ECT ECT & don't get eaten)

icy onyx
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@rancid storm your idea is neat but I think you may wanna do a bit more background research on the confirmed lore for the Isle. I myself am not the best at phrasing things lore related, but I'm positive someone else hear could show/tell you all about the Official Lore.

rancid storm
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the thing is any time I go to a place like here what I do is say random poop that comes to my mind basically I'm just spit ballin ( keeping it FF sence now I guess )

strange shell
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This would have been much less painful to read with punctuation

icy onyx
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As a dyslexic that is... Physically impossible for me to parse lol

pseudo shadow
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I'm not even dyslexic and wow I
I can't process any of that

mint loom
# rancid storm so I my theories is that at the start a small group was trying to see what dinos...

grammar, please
second, your idea is that the island was purposely abandoned because the "system" and "robots" were underground keeping it safe. however, we already know they didn't peacefully leave the island, they were forcefully driven from it due to their experiments getting released. while there is the possibility of a type-h dinosaur in the wild, the likelihood of there being even two capable of mating at this point is rather slim.
finally, the "system" doesn't tell the dinosaurs to RUN...if that was the case it'd be reflected in the main game

outer verge
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The idea of there being hypos in the wild is pretty absurd. They are designed to starve in a short period as there is no way for them to get enough nutrients to upkeep their massive size.

sturdy phoenix
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I mean, seeing how Evrima is, hypos will probably have a loop that goes like

-Someone gets hypo, goes on a killing spree in Center/Pocket Pool, and gorges itself on other players.

-Eventually, everyone wises up, and stays out of sight until it starves. People freshly logging in will hide as soon as they see it, and eventually it keels over, becoming a feast for the server's carnis.

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The other alternative is that it kills almost every full grown dino on the server, and can only find babies after a while... starving. Again.

strange shell
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How is that related to the lore ?

icy onyx
strange shell
brisk tide
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alright. So I had this idea... I want to hear what you guys think of it. For the isle.. what if the humans had tasks of chipping new dinosaurs? Say juvies and hatchlings. what if you had to go in, dart the other player and then tag it as a job? All while avoiding angry packmates and parents.I think it would benefit the player by showing a few people where that player is when your a human so you know to avoid the ones you have already tagged? it would be a hard thing to code but i think it would make playing human fun as hell. it would add to the lore and atmosphere to the game for sure.

icy onyx
wraith adder
harsh slate
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the ocean 2 sounds like a guy screaming in the beginning

serene falcon
night gate
quiet sorrel
outer verge
low zephyr
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These sounds are 90% some sort of teasing for some new dino or strain...

hexed flax
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The first one sounds a bit like the Deinosuchus broadcast. Could be a strain for it. The second one however is completely different

low zephyr
hexed flax
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Why would they be working on ocean creatures now? They are very far in the future. Or we are just thinking too much into it and they are only sound effects that appear when you are on the beach or in the ocean

low zephyr
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Good point, Looking back into the sounds it does sounds like some sort of below wich at the moment only deino makes that sort of sounds, so its etheir a strain of deino or a new dino completly.

mental pelican
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'Ocean_2' in #phase-two-archive Sounds like exactly the Magnatyrannus' 2 call. Makes me wonder if the strains are being held in an underwater facility ?

quiet sorrel
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by the name 1 and 2 im assuming one is a friendly call and one is a broadcast so i wouldnt be surprised if its the same creature. My guess would be is that either A: its a creature being transported to the island. B: it is a underwater facility as said above. D: is a large aquatic creature. could be a strain maybe of deino as it has characteristics of it and the sound is clearly coming from underwater. If it was a strain variant of the deino then my guess would be its probably a hyper by how deep the calls sound that or it could be a magna variant of the deino. It could very well be something completely different though.

quiet sorrel
serene falcon
glad heron
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tbh i was thinking the first one was a mosa and the second one was like a cannibal or something

icy onyx
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how dare^

cinder atlas
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@red cosmos @silver rover As you can see in the channel description, this channel is both very low tolerance and not meant for memes. Don't do it again.

red cosmos
stone flower
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underwater..laboratory

icy onyx
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what was thems sounds,

low zephyr
icy onyx
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I was thinking it sounded like some sort of submarine, but it sounds like a creature. Im assuming its the Mosa U_U but we’ll just have to wait and see, huh lipbite

mosasaur, my beloved

tulip meadow
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can someone tell me the origin of hypos(lore based)

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damn

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u guys stilll writing

terse surge
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the first ocean audio thing sound like a deino, hypo deinos perhaps? lol

fresh rivet
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The people at AE where testing with different things. After they managed to find themselves able to handle dna and bring back extinct species back to life, they took the next step into further editing the genetic material and creation. Since dinosaurs where manipulated from the beginning, they were the perfect subject to start with before moving into human trials.
Hyperendocrines were modified to improve it's integument and muscle power. All of this at the expends of an increased in function metabolic and endocrine system, which made them need constant feeding to sustain themselves. The hyperendocrine human is known as colossus.
Neurotenics were modified to have an increased development of neural tissue, making them smarter, while also giving them specialised cells that could interact in different ways with electrical currents and other things that may seem unnatural. The neurotenic human is known as echidna, the mother of cannibals.
Tissoplastics were modified to improve agility and stealth, mostly. They are known for their spikes and sleek shape. The tissoplastic humans (in plural) were known as reapers

And yea, was writing a long thing to bring up the most knowledge I remember regarding the strains and lore. It might most likely be outdated tho.

Any other question?

tulip meadow
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no

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can i have pictures of the humans the specialized ones

fresh rivet
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ok, gimme a sec

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Originals first. Once slow mode time is done I’ll send the tapwing versions, because they’re cool (fanart tho)

tulip meadow
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damn

fresh rivet
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Do bear in mind, none of these tapwing works are official for the isle. They’re all fanart and were done before her addition to the team.
We could expect a revamp of these.

We also have no idea what’s the fate of the Tissoplastic strain and what changes it would have, since it has been kinda neglected over the years.

tulip meadow
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why are they all caniballs

fresh rivet
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There’s a misconception there.
The eyeless creatures have no name as of yet. They were referred as cannibals in the past as a placeholder. We have no current knowledge how they came to be, speculations here and there, one I remember is echidna turning humans into that.

Meanwhile the actual cannibals as of now is the name of the “tribals”. Which you can see in a very old concept art on image 2 and a more recent one on image 3

sinful shale
fresh rivet
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Yes. Echidna would be kind of their deity.

There might be a correlation between echidna and the eyeless creatures, but the eyeless aren't as much of a neurotenic creature. Tbh I've always wondered what would the origin of the eyeless be. Are they a separate strain? A mix of all in a "lesser" creature? Who knows.

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I’m still waiting for Dondi to do it

sinful shale
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Hnnngh. Please. Lore is so interesting and I have a short notes opened of things I know, but there's still a ton of holes

fresh rivet
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It's pretty much a swiss cheese due to how many holes it has

fossil narwhal
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they look like human/dino hybrids! like a genetic disaster that scientists made after they made the dinosaurs. i bet they killed the scientists and then the dinos repopulated on their own on the isle.

icy onyx
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I would love a book about dino lore

dire haven
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At the end of the video it looks like there is a structure behind the isle logo, I’ve tried to turn the brightness up however can’t get anything else out of it.

hexed flax
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Can anyone post some pictures of the new buildings in here?

cedar wharf
# dire haven

I'm playing with levels on this video, but I can't find anything else than (propably) bugged/glitched background (just a black circle behind logo, for me it doesn't look like anything. Just sain'. I'm not any sort of professional with editing software) (but I'm not in the lore stuff as well, just trying to be helpful)

sharp knoll
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I think is the same as the old teaser

uncut rapids
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It may be just a random circle, but it has a somewhat similar shape to the steam banner image. Likely not related though. (also why the heck is the cooldown 2 minutes? )

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again, just an incredibly loose assumption as there are a lot of curved roof buildings in legacy too.

dry parrot
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You all know this

sharp knoll
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PCE

dry parrot
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But when the Phoenix logo was shown for a second in the "hope" trailer, it's seems like AE (Apollo engine) needed help and so they contacted Phoenix

mint loom
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Well why wouldn't they need help?
After fleeing from the island in fear of their own creations - creations that no man knows the boundaries to, they needed someone to help them keep it under the rug. Imagine if the local governments caught wind of what was happening at AE, this is a jurassic park scenario here.
For dinosaurs to become a thing again (while being in containment), they mustn't let governments know that they've lost control of a large island giving dinosaurs free-reign over the entire land. The amount of information stowed away in every facility...the possibility for a huge scandal...its endless.
Although AE and PI have had their run-ins, at the end of the day, PI is the only organization AE can turn to which will understand their dire need of support.
At this point, will disabling the replicator even save the island? Would exterminating the dinosaurs again even be an option?
Granted, AE has already broken a fundamental rule - you never bring back the dead. What's gone is gone, and some things are best left that way.

nocturne cosmos
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Phoenix has no reason to help them unless they were givne something since AE stole from them

sudden prawn
# mint loom Well why wouldn't they need help? After fleeing from the island in fear of their...

If I’m not mistaken I remember a very long time ago on a stream the strains were mentioned to be testbeds for biological military weapons. So I don’t think the government wouldn’t know about the existence of the island. This would make sense as both strains that are currently pretty well fleshed out (neuro and hyper) both cover very prominent roles in military combat. neuros having EMP capabilities and hypers just being straight up armoured killing machines. Tanks if you will. They were designed with a purpose in mind. And that is for sure a military one.

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Perhaps before the creation of the strains, the resurrection of the dinosaurs did not have the ultimate goal of turning these creatures into weapons (I could be wrong) but perhaps Apollo Engineering changed their motives after seeing what these creatures were capable of, and started widening their research and experiments to broader — less humane pathways.

uncut rapids
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can we just agree that whoever founded AE is a crackhead

mint loom
oblique lichen
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I think it's likely that the dinosaurs, at least the normal ones, were allowed to spread out as they pleased to for an ecosystem. I quite distinctly recall mentions on legacy of studies on Carnotaurus in the wild. I DON'T think AE has told anyone what's going on on the islands, presumably because of the human trials that where going on. That's probably why they're sending in mercenaries, to clean up and regain control of the islands before anyone discovers what's going on

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Why the islands are abandoned in the first place we don't know yet, but it's likely the replicator had some involvement. From what we know so far, I wouldn't be shocked if it spawned strains to force AE off the island then continued it's own agenda in peace, whatever that may be.

strange shell
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AE did have some communiactions with a "government" though. I don't know which one, nor what kind of communications, but it seems that at least one of the governments was aware of their doings. It might have been the US, they're not that bent on ethics from what we know, and AE might have promised them something in exchange for some funding, like immortal soldiers (the ideal US government bait in movies)

digital mulch
loud stag
# oblique lichen Why the islands are abandoned in the first place we don't know yet, but it's lik...

In some of the transmissions, theres mention of abnormal seismic activity being detected on the island. Id be willing to bet a natural disaster like an earthquake caused power to go out, or security systems to fail temporarily and allow things to go to hell in a hand basket. Perhaps the replicator took advantage of that moment of weakness to secure the systems under its command and gain control of the island for itself?

uncut rapids
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seismic stuff got me thinking about the neuro spino. Maybe it has something to do with why the island is all abandoned?

sinful shale
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Did thing. Too lazy to find out the lore? Me too. TI_Succ Here, take this then, for all your lore needs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UY9tCUdPcpDFp84q7mI6WPq9JYw65oyQgZNtG_C97pg/edit?usp=sharing

heady cove
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about the underwater sounds effects showed in #phase-two-archive might those tease for marine reptiles mybe (kronosaurus made by jacob baardse by the way but it sadly never got finished since he left the project to work on it sometime soon) and that "soon" might this be what we heared.

icy onyx
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Baardse didn't leave afaik. Secondly I don't think that model is for the isle.

dry parrot
dry parrot
steel flicker
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Sea creature muhahahaha

dry parrot
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I also think that she (I don't know here name), the creator of cannibals, worked in the research lab for AE, they probably wanted to test something new and.. she was corrupted and transform those poor scientists and mercenaries into these creatures...

olive cedar
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Hmm, what do you think these code means?.. 🤔

fresh rivet
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just locker numbers

olive cedar
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That "q=7" signs are on more sides of building and items. For me it seems pretty misterious.

dry parrot
minor lava
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I don't think that's a =
there's more spots of yellow under the 2 obvious lines

quiet sorrel
olive cedar
quiet sorrel
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Maybe 2301, 957 cause theres something after the 0

quiet sorrel
olive cedar
oblique lichen
# dry parrot Also the fact that Mercenaries and others human on the island were transformed i...

We don't even know if Echidna, the Colossus or the Reaper are still canon, and we DEFINITELY don't know what context any of them have in the story other than human trials of the strains if they are canon. As far as the cannibals and the as-of-yet eyeless creatures, our best guess is they're more things that the replicator is producing for whatever reason. We know they likely worship the replicator and the strains but I seriously doubt a machine like that is keeping them around solely for worship

dry parrot
shut remnant
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we know that the current version of reaper is scrapped, but I'm fairly certain that collosus and echidna are still canon, as they do seem to be important parts of the lore

oblique lichen
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We don't know the Echidna created the cannibals at all. I seriously doubt her title is meant to be taken literally

sinful shale
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^^This. We don't know. I think "Mother of Cannibals" is a misconception and not actual. If she is the creator of anything, it'd be the Nameless, and the Replicator would have created the cannibals (not canon, just theory).

oblique lichen
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More than likely it's the title the cannibals gave her out of respect given they, as mentioned before, worship the strains, and Echidna is the "closest" out of the three, assuming tisso is still a thing, to human

loud adder
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Not from some creature. If you read the devblog, you would know this. Half of the misleading info the community pulls out of their ass is when they assume shit.

sudden prawn
dry parrot
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They might or might not, who know but hopefully they'll come

eager marsh
sour tangle
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dude

sour tangle
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primal carnage and the isle are in the same world or universe

eager marsh
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yea yea that ik

eager marsh
# icy onyx Obviously

also saying that ae was tryna get help from pc threw me off a bit so i wanted to make sure

nocturne cosmos
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it dose not make sense for either of them to help eachother unless given something in return and something good at that

sinful shale
ebon badge
tough marten
visual ivy
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Insane theory but what if the replicator created the dinosaurs as one of many defense mechanisms to prevent humans from reaching it? Unless that’s debunked by the dinosaurs being created by scientists.

safe ravine
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Cleaned up the channel from previous off-topic discussion

icy onyx
visual shuttle
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Lore theory dinosaurs

strange shell
prisma chasm
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Either its going to be scientists created it and we have a jurassic park theme or its going to end up being a lost world/dinotopia theme where theres just some islands that managed to survive the original extinction.
if theres any other ideas that dont revolve around those two themes, please tag me cuz i'd love to hear them!

nocturne cosmos
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Scientists made the dinos as well as i think some of the islands since a while ago back with v3 and that one of them was listed under terraforming, also i dont know if this is still a thing but before when u looked at the character screen unless u were nested u had a tracking chip

strange shell
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That's not exactly a lore theory

olive cedar
strange shell
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A theory unrelated to the lore

olive cedar
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Good point. I removed it.

strange shell
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If you're interested in the game's lore though, there is a pinned message listing everything we currently have concerning the lore ; decrypted morse codes, messages, hints and that kind of things.

sinful shale
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Allow me to self promote - if you're looking for definitions or analysis, I gotchu right here. It uses both Hellshades and Taterfis sources. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UY9tCUdPcpDFp84q7mI6WPq9JYw65oyQgZNtG_C97pg/edit?usp=sharing

harsh violet
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cough cough hyper Quetz cough ima just leave this here

acoustic wolf
dusky coral
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||just stop||

mint vault
subtle dove
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Yeah we don’t want to catch that virus

prisma chasm
echo light
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he coming

visual ivy
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What do you think broke into the human structure near the swamp and attacked whoever was in the locker? There had to have been a small and large dinosaur that infiltrated that place. Any guesses?

icy onyx
silver kraken
echo light
strange shell
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I don't know if I should laugh or cry... I'm probably going to do both

echo light
strange shell
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This is horribly true. According to the server meta, Ben even survived death. Many times.

low zephyr
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oh boy... whats next? Dilo dog!?

wintry dagger
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topic?

safe ravine
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Community's collective lore for Ben:
((Not the official lore because we don't know Ben's official lore))

Origin:

  • Considered a cryptid in the isle, Ben is a 'failed' early experiment and/or malformed dilophosaurus.
  • Was made artificially and not hatched naturally from an egg. Images of early development "Ben's" in large test tubes.
  • Has a unique condition called shortened spine syndrome giving her her stunted appearance.
  • The replicator released Ben unto the world allowing her to live and even thrive in situations other, considerably better dinosaurs, wouldn't be able to. We don't know why.

Abilities:

  • Very fast and scurries about
  • Partial invisibility and heightened perception abilities. Possibly due to being contaminated with neuro strain DNA. (This is also the source of her odd blue color)
  • Eyes glow red at night when shined by a light source.
  • Ben cannon, she can fire a destructive Lazer from her mouth.

Vocals:

  • Vocal cords are also malformed. Ben's vocals are distorted and sound more akin to terrible screeching than the cool cooing of a normal dilophosaurus.

Behavior:

  • Like any classic cryptid, rarely seen but encounters vary from a quick glimpse before she flees to deadly encounters with little to no survivors.
  • Ben prefers to scavenge for food but will easily take down prey smaller than herself.
glass terrace
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wad if ben got he nam from a scitist?!?!? real

icy onyx
green crater
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Ben these days now reminds me of E750 lol

coral light
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Is he going to be an ai?

icy onyx
safe ravine
quiet sorrel
safe ravine
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All we know is that Ben is cannon in the lore

green crater
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They should have Ben cryogenically frozen somewhere in a special merc bunker, and when it breaks out it targets players

icy onyx
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Ben controls the strains from a remote location TI_LUL

quiet sorrel
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If ben is killed then your profile is transported into another ben made by the replicator

green crater
lethal glen
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^

pseudo shadow
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ben update 4 hidden playable

lone cape
mighty vessel
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LOL

soft jewel
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Alright now that I'm reminded of Dondi's poll on twitter from ages ago, what exactly is the story of The Isle? Because I can't tell if they're going for a plot by plot or visual storytelling based narrative

outer verge
nocturne cosmos
icy onyx
zinc laurel
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i have played the isle a lot and i still dont know what any of the lore is. Enlighten me please

low zephyr
strange shell
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Some weird scientific corporation decided to recreate dinos for an obscure purpose using a machine called the Replicator. The machine gained sentience and decided to pursue its own goals, which are even more obscure and imply mutated dinos with telekinetic powers and humans turned into blood-thirsty creatures.
Copy-paste from an older message of mine

green crater
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My version of the lore: as they made dinos they accidentally made a failed Dilophosaurus Specimen called B.E.N.
Ben gained far more intelligence and gained control of the Replicator TI_Trollge TI_Trollge TI_Trollge

red cosmos
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wtf dose this mean TI_Succ

low zephyr
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its a camera

lone cape
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A square pokeball

icy onyx
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superficially resembles a camera (mainly the flash of it when it takes a photo)

foggy sorrel
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@red cosmosfrom my 90s gaming experience you kick that spot and you get into the hidden room

red cosmos
quartz jackal
sharp knoll
red cosmos
strange shell
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The replicator is the machine that created everything in The Isle, including the Isle itself

red cosmos
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oh

fickle heron
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Guys you can stop calling it the replicatior, we all know it is just a euphemism for god.

minor lava
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but it's called the replicator in the lore

strange shell
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There is a difference between the two
God isn't evil afaik

safe ravine
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Also God isn't a physical machine TI_LUL

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The picture reminds me of the companion cube from portal

oak reef
mighty abyss
safe ravine
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that's confidential sir

low zephyr
noble harbor
eager marsh
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yes

echo light
loud stag
pseudo shadow
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It may be a drawing of a camera or the replicator

feral pond
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If folks aren’t going to keep to a serious topic and instead run with a joking subject they will soon be muted if they persist. Serious lore conversation only, thank you for understanding. Clutter will be cleaned up momentarily.

bright shoal
ripe nacelle
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if u mean tribals, yes

bright shoal
karmic wraith
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anyone an idea why the humans build the damn in the first place ? not like they did build an base other vasility there so whats the purpose ?

strange shell
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It was likely to create an artificial swamp there

karmic wraith
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yes but like why ?

strange shell
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Probably because they needed a swamp there for their ecosystem to work as intented.

shut remnant
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I swear the dam was just a placeholder structure because the swamp was breaking things

worn cape
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In the last sentence of the elder section of the public road map says "Or, depending on your species, you can forfeit reward, deny the reaper for a time and extend your reign as something far more terrifying."

Hypos anyone?

quiet sorrel
worn cape
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If it's anything like the legacy hypos, they might not last long as they'd starve very quickly (at least for the hypo rex)

quiet sorrel
worn cape
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I never new that, that's neat af

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Regeneration is good and all, but it wouldn't survive long in the wild with the high metabolism needed for the regeneration.

They still fucking terrifying though. Unless they get a redesign to something even scarier.

quiet sorrel
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its still unsure what AE was trying to achieve in creating them but my guess would be regenerative therapy but hypers are pretty much a mass extinction event as they wont stop killing and eating still they eaten everything they can get to and die.

urban ferry
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My guess for the objective regarding the creation of the hyperendocrine dinosaurs is either to test metabolic changes and intensive tissue repair, or to create a living weapon
Either way, they seem to have succeeded
Also what's the possibility that the hyperendocrine monstrosities are part of a cleanup operation? They're extremely aggressive, have an insane metabolism which forces them to kill and eat constantly, and then eventually die on their own.

coral light
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Hearing all of that, I wonder if cannibals are just hypo humans

shut remnant
dry parrot
strange shell
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I have a theory that humans did not create the strains. Not on purpose at least. After reading through the know lore elements, what I thought is that maybe the replicator started to create strains for whatever reason, and AE decided to study them, to know how these things can be alive. I'm really not sure though.

quiet sorrel
river marsh
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Food for thought and sorry if this is something thats common knowledge: the replicator could be a result of humanity tampering with technology/ai, then that getting out of hand when it figured out how to make strains. Queue the evacuation, and then afterwards, mercenaries or rogue bounty hunters get shipped in or go to the isle both to try and shut it down or loot valuable information/dna/what have you. Meanwhile the replicator is gathering more samples from sacrifices to try and make a perfect version of humans as its very alien (though process- not the outer space kind) AI dictates. Right now, while it is a hyper effective design, the tribal is ultimately missing a lot of pieces, and that is how they come in where they worship and try to ascend, ultimately creating the game and the multifaceted goals to meet win conditions

buoyant river
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Since Troodon is a common punching bag in the dossiers, perhaps they have an overpopulation problem and are the isle equivalent of say, feral cats in Australia?

gentle vessel
prisma chasm
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I have a theory that the island was created for the super wealthy to hunt big game.
Like, they pay to come to the island, get dressed up to hunt and are sent out with a team of mercs.
The tribal people were there before the dinos but they've learned to live with them and the people who own the island can't seem to get rid of them or ever even find them half the time so they just let them be.
But the tribals hate the mercs and rich hunters so sometimes mess with them, their stuff and their hunts.
They think the dinos are sacred and don't realize they were made by the super rich trophy hunters.
Sacred, but still eat them and stuff. They just do it respectfully.
I like this theory, even if it has no scrap of truth to the actual game.

buoyant river
quiet sorrel
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The tribals arent exactly human and are created by the replicator most likely.

nocturne cosmos
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im definitly sure everything is created by AE that we know of other then a few maybe natural things?

quiet sorrel
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even the environment seems crafted by AE to put the dinosaur ecosystem in.

prisma chasm
bitter field
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seeing that I have never seen anything concerning this place I put this here: in addition to the images that I have sent there is a sound of molten magma at this place, I hope that it could be useful to a person

bitter field
still scarab
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yep the tar pit caves

karmic wraith
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any give and takes how the genetic manipulations work for the diffrent strains and more important why the mercs would even genetic enhance a deadly predator that already poses a thread for their own troops

heady frost
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Maybe they didnt mean to

karmic wraith
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now i wanna hear a story how to accidentally catch , escort to the laboratory and genetically enhance a dinosaur

ebon badge
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it might not have been the humans mutating the dinosaurs, it could've been the replicator doing it.

strange shell
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Mercs didn't mutate anything. The scientists from AE might have done it. If it's not the Replicator'w own doing, there can be quite a few reasons for them to have created every strain. Hyperendocrins are for body and strength enhancement, regeneration and maybe, curing normally incurable diseases or even achieving immortality. The neuro strain could aim to enhance cognitive capacities and test the limits of the organic brain. As far as we have seen, those limits are far greater than what we have expected. The tissoplastic strain is more obscure, since there is no known tissoplastic asset to this date (I think the tissoplastic rex is confirmed to exist, but we never seen it in action)
The tissoplastic strain might have the purpose of enhancing reflexes and perception, maybe curing some handicaps by redoing and improving the neural connections to control the body (the neurotenic strain may also have this purpose)
In fact, all of them could have medical applications. They could have been tested on dinos first for several reasons. Maybe there is an "ability" to host the strains that only exists in those long-extinct species. Maybe the big dinos are the only creature that can handle a strain as of yet, because of their huge size and resistance (for now only some apexes have confirmed strains). Or maybe, AE only had the technology to do genetic engineering on dinos for some reason, and thus couldn't test on regular animals.

karmic wraith
# strange shell *Mercs* didn't mutate anything. The scientists from AE might have done it. If it...

everything okay and i agree with the statements you do it still gives the questions why doing that in the first place else then endangering nearly an entire Eco system with one single hyper creature that could over weight the balance and more importantly be a danger for every human on earth eventually if made from the island like hyper quetz for example there are many avian creatures that make it across the entire ocean with out breaking a sweat even a every year butterfly migration does that trip with no break so for a xmen quetz it surely isnt a problem and unless they have a plan for when one of the things makes it off the island im still on the page that even for additional data it be way too much of a thread to create such a creature in the first place ping me for the answer ima go to bed

safe ravine
karmic wraith
# safe ravine I'm gonna guess this can be answered with a Jurassic Park quote... "Your scient...

Scientist council be like : let's make the biggest and most dangerous creature ever known to have roamed the earth even bigger with more teeth and a black hole in the stomach then everyone started to celebrate that got violent and then everyone high fives each other in the face and no one was left conscious to actuall realise it was a stupid idea to create these things in the first place

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Also I truly wonder what the EA would do if one of the creatures that can very easily pass the distance from where ever Isla Spiro is located to the next mainland is

Where is Isla Spiro located anyway? Has to be somewhere near equatorial area consider the plant life

safe ravine
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There are theories that it's a man made island in the middle of nowhere or somewhere where there are alot of costal islands

brazen warren
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I know theres a spot in the ocean where you're closer to the national space station than any land on earth, could be a man made island there, its called Point Nemo

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Point nemo on the map, its over 1,000 miles away from any land

icy onyx
karmic wraith
strange shell
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A quetz or a ptera could, but a hyperendocrin one couldn't, since it would die of starvation after a few hours

karmic wraith
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depence whats the flying speed is from the h-class quetz and how lucky it would be to find a boat with people but im sure it would be lucky to find atleast something edible across the ocean

outer verge
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Yall find anything new from this picture or is it just showing off weather and lighting effects?

icy onyx
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its just showing off weather n shit, nothing else. That is a radio tower, but its not very significant lorewise

sharp knoll
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maybe new transmition

olive cedar
icy onyx
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That still is not significant to the lore. Its just an elder utah, what about it?

manic marsh
icy onyx
weak phoenix
quartz oyster
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Does the devs even know the lore?

icy onyx
gaunt dawn
loud stag
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Yeah, he said at this point they should release a book, cuz thats basically how much lore there is. Would just be nice if we KNEW ANY OF IT

outer verge
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I'm kinda hoping the next update will include significant lore features. It's a bit feeling like we are just kept interested in the lore in a "carrot at the end of a stick" manner.

icy onyx
nocturne cosmos
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nope mostly we get shit we de-code we get something else and then we wait for something to go with that

icy onyx
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ok so I have played for years now but I never looked into the lore much. Whats actually known about the lore?

ebon badge
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check the pins

icy onyx
coral sail
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is there a video that explains most of the known lore

icy onyx
# coral sail is there a video that explains most of the known lore
coral sail
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ty

red iris
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The Isle is in a universe where humans never existed and Ankies took their role , and they made the isle's World bc they're that sophisticated.

icy onyx
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wait

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if the isle has AE (which is prob a company) and there is multiple research bases and tribes, and even human/caveman ports. That means that AE is researching the island and that might mean that, the island is the only place where dinosaurs survived the blast, and slowly developed to not have any feathers. And the hypos might be AE experimenting with genetic cloning.

high heath
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That last one has been a yes and no. There are plants on the island that change things into strains too (probably by attacking said animals or stabbing them to mutate them.) However, from what we can tell, AE stole DNA from PC (Phoenix Corp), the company that takes place in Primal Carnage, so the strains and plants could be unintended creations of genetic engineering on the dinosaurs they have.

Love your videos Pesky, keep up the great work.

icy onyx
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xd im not the real one

icy onyx
high heath
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Nice idea, but unfortunately no. AE stole the DNA and bombed the island. Primal Carnage had two splitting timelines, one which leads to The Isle, and another that turns into Primal Carnage Extinction.
@icy onyx

icy onyx
high heath
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No, no. It's like...how do I explain it?

Primal Carnage is the beginning, and it has two futures.

One future leads to Extinction. The bombings never happen and AE never steals the DNA.

Another future is when the bombings do happen. Primal Carnage Extinction never happens, The Isle does.

icy onyx
# high heath No, no. It's like...how do I explain it? Primal Carnage is the beginning, and i...

OH that means that the AE might have been partnering with phoenix to steal it, AE might have given them food for the dinos, because AE was a very rich company unlike Phoenix... so then primal carnage extinction may have centered around the dinosaurs starving, because AE could not have found a way to steal the DNA and had to reason to fund them. The other future is the dinosaurs survive and AE funds hem with extra food, making phoenix trust them more, which then AE can be anywhere on the island without getting punished!

high heath
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No.

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AE just steals the DNA. They destroy the island. Extinction has nothing to do with AE. They are rival companies. Remember the first Jurassic Park? Where the fat guy steals Dino DNA? Think like that as AE and they succeed in one timeline.

icy onyx
high heath
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Yeah, basically.

ebon badge
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more lore pls dondi trollshy

icy onyx
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dondi

visual ivy
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Are hypos intelligent?

icy onyx
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What exactly do you mean by intelligent?

visual ivy
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Are they good at strategies, can they recognize when a merc has a gun? And are they aware that they’re mutating? That kind of intelligence.

icy onyx
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I'm not sure about knowing that they're a mutation (obviously the player knows it's a mutation but I think you mean the animal itself), but to the rest of it I'd say yeah, most likely.

visual ivy
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Yeah, I’d be interesting to know if the animal was aware it was mutating and using it to the best of its advantage. Or if it didn’t know and all it felt was never ending hunger.

icy onyx
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I'd assume it would probably never know, but I guess we'll see when they are implemented 50+ years from now.

visual ivy
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Lol. Also could the tribals become mutations like colossus and echidna. Or do they just become the unknown?

icy onyx
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I don't think we know the answer to that just yet, sorry.

visual ivy
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It’s all good!

eager marsh
coral light
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Did the isle team have a part in primal carnage?

eager marsh
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like in lore or development?

strange shell
# coral light Did the isle team have a part in primal carnage?

Dondi was once part of Primal Carnage's dev team if my sources are correct. But nobody agreed with his proposals to make a survival mode so he basically said "okay then bye I'm doing my own game". I don't know if that still belongs to the lore theories channel tho.

coral light
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That explains so much

nocturne cosmos
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primal carnage is sstill connected to the isle by lore like 90% sure

ebon badge
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yes, they are the same universe

high heath
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Yes and no.

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Primal Carnage is the basis for the universe, but its like a time split. So in one reality, Primal Carnage has its DNA stolen and the island is bombed, killing all the dinosaurs. The other split is no bombing and stealing, so Primal Carnage Extinction happens

icy onyx
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there is a canonical fork. If you want a really spicy explanation, Primal Carnage is a retelling/novelisation of the events of what happened on Phoenix's island (not necessarily true to what actually happened, just loosely based off accounts from the mercenaries sent), and then extinction is some video game adaptation in-universe.

stone crater
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Do y’all reckon Evrima has in-universe lore ramifications?? I know back when we had lore loading screens for Legacy there was mention of Gen 1 and 2 animals, which I believe referred to remodels and reworks— would an animal like Allosaurus be on Generation 3 or 4 after making the jump to Evrima??

outer verge
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I believe gen 1 & 2 refers to tribals and mercenaries

bright shoal
hasty mirage
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someone summon the theorist

digital mulch
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I think that going cannibal would as the devs said lose fertility and start getting hallucinations and will turn you into a type-N

strange shell
digital mulch
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Well I just said that because the type-N strain looks like the cannibal

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And I thought that there was a small similarity. And why would the devs be talking about cannibalism a lot if it’s going to play a big role

strange shell
# digital mulch And I thought that there was a small similarity. And why would the devs be talki...

Cannibalism is maybe going to play a big role, but not lore-wise. And certainly absolutely unrelated to strains. Also, the "Cannibal" was a placeholder name, it is now known as the "unnamed". It is also a genetically modified creature and didn't get its features from cannibalism alone. It is currently a human specific strain, or maybe a magna-human. The human neurotenic strain is called the Mastermind.

digital mulch
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But to me when I saw some of the tapwing art with the tribals they look like they have been eating there own and turning slowly into the unnamed

strange shell
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This might be a tribal-specific thing. Other theories are that they can actually make sacrifices to the Replicator to evolve into scarier things, like the unnamed.

digital mulch
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But what’s the replicator actually is I really didn’t go into the rabbit hole that much

strange shell
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The Replicator is a machine with god-like powers, as far as we know. It is also implied that it might have a consciousness and that it likes to watch living creatures suffer eternally. Some think there might be an actual human brain, or a soul, inside it. Tribals worship the replicator for its power, and because it is probably their creator.

digital mulch
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So a camera

sour rivet
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Dafuq how did we go from Lalilu Taco oro dryo TI_Yay to lovecraftian monsters that want to see creatures getting tormented for life TI_monkaS

ancient relic
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From my point of view it could rather be an endless test to find the perfect surviving orgnism, mixing stuff together and making stuff die again and again to try hard the evolutions of creatures ... well kind off.

loud stag
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A sentient machine, with the power to create life, stuck in and endless cycle of trying to create the perfect organism. Eventually driving itself mad and creating monsters that it sees as perfect.

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That's my theory at least. Perhaps when the humans moved out (more likely forced out) the replicator kept up the experiments and research, eventually twisting them all to fit its own plans whatever those may be. Perhaps over time its consciousness began to deteriorate as time and the environment began wearing down its components. Perhaps the Tribals started to worship it after it had gone mad. So seeing it as their god, started protecting it, which stopped it from decaying further.

rustic halo
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<@&401466542140817419> it’s in all the channels TI_pue

sturdy mantle
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Hey all, is there any concrete news on the games lore other than it being related to primal carnage somehow?

rustic halo
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All in the pins afaik

icy onyx
# sturdy mantle Hey all, is there any concrete news on the games lore other than it being relate...
sturdy mantle
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Thanks

topaz adder
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I sometimes wonder where the strains came from, and why. Perhaps they came naturally through evolution? Or perhaps they are the ultimate means of trying seize power only to fail and become a monster. Did they humans effected by strains cause so much destruction that was once though to have been caused by the Type-H? Were the dinosaurs ever more than a mishap in pursuit of power, to find something evolved to handle the strains brought on them? I dont know a whole lot about the lore as is, but these thoughts came across and I wonder how accurate they may be.

nocturne cosmos
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strains were made by AE but mangna was kinda nautral i think

eager marsh
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didnt they steal something from phoenix corp to make the magna or something like that?

nocturne cosmos
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I think they stole a Rex from PC which was the manga Rex we have today

eager marsh
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yea that would make sense, they’re the same rexes after all

icy onyx
dusky valley
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is the hyperendocrin colossus coming to the game

strange shell
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It is likely, but we can't know for sure since it ft the concept phase. For now, as it wasn't stated to no longer be canon to the lore, we can expect it will come to the game in the future.

loud adder
dusky valley
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Oh that’s shame if it isn’t but let’s hope it does because playable

loud adder
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It would be neat to have it on a computer (since we know they'll exist) file about Colossus, Echidna, and the Tisso Reaper. I would love to see the reiteration of Tribal monuments and other things that they created to be on Spiro at some point.

willow hedge
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Maybe it could be playable in sandbox mode (if it comes back)

icy onyx
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this is the big brain hangout

hybrid abyss
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If it did come back, not as a playable, it might be neat for it to be an ultra rare ai spawn that patrols the map and destroys everything in its path. If nobody kills it after a certain timespan, it disappears when nobody is watching

rapid swan
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did you know eàster egg ?

fair harness
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ok what ever happen to the strains

nocturne cosmos
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as in are they still a thing or like the original versions or

loud stag
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Strains are still going to be in the game eventually. I imagine they're far down the to-do list, though. Probably wont come until after the Elder system gets added. I know Neuro and Hyper strains are coming back for sure, but Tisso is up in the air at the moment. The Devs have since updated the concept designs for things like the new Hyper rex, so Hypers are definitley gonna be in. We havnt heard much about Neuro since Evrima but as far as I know its also gonna be in. Tisso is the only one that's a mystery atm, since we havnt heard really anything about them since the devs decided they needed a rework. Tisso could be getting design tweaks, it could be completely rebuilt and have a different playstyle than what we've come to expect, OR it may even be scrapped entirely.

echo trout
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i think the matriarch and the strain humanoids will be coming to evrima

outer verge
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And what makes you think that?

noble karma
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What is that pfpTI_Scream

icy onyx
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Uhhhhh

sand seal
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Oh, is it the weird milk profile again? He and I already talked about it, guess I gotta remove him now.

serene stirrup
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I have a question more or less - So, I remember reading that like.. People had their conscious transferred into the dinosaurs. Prisoners, I think? It's been a hot minute but if that's true, why would we need the mercs?

strange shell
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The mercs are probably the ones being transferred into dino bodies. And vice-versa. Actually, I think everything the player does is canon to the lore. That means if you die as a merc then go back to character select screen and pick a dino, that's canon. You are the mind that keeps getting reincarnated into different bodies whenever they die.

fluid zealot
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I see it sorta being like that movie, Avatar

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Likely out on the ocean or underground somewhere is an installation where people(players) are being conected to dinosaurs as avatars.

icy onyx
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It was all a dream.

icy onyx
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Epic I’m sure @sand seal would love these!

dusky coral
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Wait so I love the isle, but have been heavily invested in just ark lore rn can someone give me a run down of all the lore?

naive crane
dusky coral
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Ight thx man

red iris
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Ok since The Isle takes place in modern day.., Where the Fuck did the dinos come from?, 53 dinos all from different eras and times , like who made the dinos ?

edgy pike
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Pretty sure this game is still in the same universe as the primal ones, and in that they got at least some of the DNA by raiding museums and grinding up the bones or something

pearl frost
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Let me get this right:
Type Hs are big, strong, fast, and very hungry?
Type Ns are cunning, telepathic, and can use EMPs?
Type Ts are venomous and can camouflage?

rustic halo
spare zodiac
echo trout
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is there anything been said about the Matriarch

outer verge
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No, I dont think its even canon

nocturne cosmos
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its in a grey floating area right now i think

sinful shale
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We know literally nothing until something official is released. Everything else is speculation. cri

spare zodiac
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true

karmic wraith
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Did anyone ever drop the question why the replicator was being build in the first place? In stead of like a creation laboratory that is being controlled by humans and overlooked maybe it could have avoided the outbreak or catastrophe that destroyed anything on the maps

rustic halo
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Because funny haha AI turn evil cliche go brrrrrr

karmic wraith
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Even with out looking why the ai was made

Why was the replicator build instead of an laboratory with human supervision the mercs could have avoid it if they wouldn't have made an replicator

nocturne cosmos
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i mean why the fuck did they even make dinos who knows

karmic wraith
static tendon
drifting falcon
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God made the dinosaurs, God destroyed the dinosaurs. God made the man, the man destroyed God, the man made the dinosaurs.

weak nexus
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dinosaurs eat man, women inherent the earth.

carmine bone
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man eat women, dinosaurs inherent the earth

cinder atlas
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This is the lore channel. Not Jeff Goldblum quotes.

karmic wraith
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@lethal glen As an gene manipulated nest the survival success was slim and four out of five failed but a small egg hatched pre-early and was labeled Ben from the scientists they worked for its survival day and night and it grew alarmingly fast soon understanding its surroundings it became blood thirsty and wanted more then only dead sheep as it made its way out of the facility Ben freed the other dinosaurs for revenge on the experiments the scientist did on all of them does for sending the research side to hell and escaped ||just a little ben lore i came up with lol||

icy onyx
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Eh. I'd have a different approach to ben:
Developed alongside the various strains, BEN is designed to be a military weapon. It is a modified tailless dilophosaurid with an inbuilt "laser cannon" and long, semi-sprawled legs as a consequence of Rhacophorid DNA (allowing it to leap considerable distances). However, BEN is highly aggressive and thus ill-suited for deployment alongside allied units. It's hostility, combined with it's immense curiousity, has resulted in extreme containment measures.

icy onyx
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I'd treat it as a more monsterous version (Ben Cannon)

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#isle-fan-art message
#isle-fan-art message
like these?

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yeah basically

karmic wraith
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i let brece decide it just is fun to write lore around ben lol

lethal glen
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Oh neat! It’s fun to play around with Benjamin’s development/lore!

karmic wraith
dense arrow
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I'm becoming a newfound-fan of Ben lore

versed plover
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ben lore seems cool

crisp bison
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your opinion is objectively wrong

sand seal
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That's not how opinions work.

valid charm
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sorry if this is a stupid question but what is the replicator?

rustic urchin
valid charm
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thats awesome

eager marsh
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if i’m not mistaken it’s pretty much in control over the whole island and all living things on it

dusky coral
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isla spiro is evrima right?

icy onyx
icy onyx
left heath
sand seal
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I will begin crying. I will be crying for 72 hours, incidentally, this is how long your mute will last. 🤷

eager marsh
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don’t think that man will ever return after what u just did to him, but anyways ben lore

dusky coral
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so im jus getting into the lore, right. so can someone paraphrase the "story" for me?

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like who are the doctors, where is colossus, reaper, and the tissoplactic one. cannibals'? like i have so many questions. project inferno? the Olympus transmitter? the all-father? throne breaker? like what's the significance of it all and when will it climax? will we see these strains in the game as dinos? will we see the beings that inhabit the strains themselves?

eager marsh
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yea so i think one day we’ll be getting all of these in game, or at least some form of it in game, strains will be making a return eventually and have been teased on how we can become one, as for the olympus transmitter, throne breaker, and all that other stuff i’m not too sure as idek much abt those things myself

dusky coral
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well i mean ik that throne breaker is the hypo rex, and all father is the magna rex but i want to know the goal if that makes sense

rustic halo
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<@&401466542140817419>

sinful shale
# dusky coral like who are the doctors, where is colossus, reaper, and the tissoplactic one. c...
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Some things that I have collected which mostly answer those questions, some data taken from Hellshade and Taterfi

hybrid abyss
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I needed to do a double take on this channel to make sure I didnt just hallucinate what I just read

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Ok its gone phew

dense arrow
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Less of a theory and more of a concept:

The radio tower seen in south Spiro is actually the same tower on the western mountain in V3, and the V3 temperate area is another biome separated by the mountain-range.

vital lantern
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you could be right, I believe that its been confirmed that the v2 map is going to be a part of spiro, as for the v3 tower idk. But if they add the v2 map it wouldn't surprise me to see stuff from v3 as well

bleak grove
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I think that the cannibals could have been a failed experiment on some tribals

narrow sundial
calm crag
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So hypos have a purpose right? So hypo spino hunts mosasaurs hypo Rex was for military use but what about for hypo Utah and carno? Well I have a theory of what they where used for: hypo Utah’s where used for catching fugitives and used in wars hypo carnos where used to better hunt down other dinosaurs to contain them

calm crag
dusky coral
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ah that makes sense

strange shell
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I'm not sure all hypers were made with a specific purpose. They rather look like pure experiments, and the interesting part about them might not be the actual bloodthirsty killing machine but its genes and capacities. Remember AE really looks like some medical company, and hypers show very impressive resilience and regenerative capabilities. Maybe hypers were just test subjects for a regenerative technology, and magnas are a more refined version of them, still demonstrating impressive regenerative abilities but not as bloodthirsty and more viable on the long term.

calm crag
tidal pagoda
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The word hyperendocrin means hyper mostabolism

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they cant satiate their hunger, which makes them a failed experiment. Magnas dont have that problem but they still arent as strong as hypers

ancient relic
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So now we have mamals into the isle, and since they are like the dinos we have : not supposed to live in the same place and timeline, I wonder if they are due to the replicator too since antelope and moose living in the same place makes no sense,or if all of that if at first only human related and the replicator is only doing dinos?

calm crag
short zenith
# tidal pagoda The word hyperendocrin means hyper mostabolism

actually the hyperendocrin means the endocrine system of the body is nuts, the endocrine system is essentially just the hormonal system which controlls a variety of things, such as growth (which is why they are big) and metabolism (which is why they are hungry)
same difference though

icy onyx
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hence why it's called 'hyper'

safe ravine
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If it were hypoendocrine it would mean below normal

calm crag
tidal pagoda
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hypers*

icy onyx
livid shoal
hard pecan
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<@&401466542140817419> Looks like we got a bot

sand seal
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You didn't see nothin'.

sour rivet
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We all saw it TI_Squint

stoic lily
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I love the hypo monstrosities
Particularly hypo giga and spino with their split jaw TI_H

tidal pagoda
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hypo

icy onyx
placid glacier
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lol

eager marsh
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what does that mean lol

jaunty bloom
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me when its aliens now

tardy coral
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Hey,someone know what happen with this guys called “unknown”.
I’ve been watching some videos and I see that some calls of this “things” can be heard on the aviary in legacy still now

thin vine
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pretty sure they're cannibals. not sure if they were ever actually added or anything

tidal pagoda
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think they're gonna get added, not sure

sharp knoll
eager marsh
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yea u can, they sound similar to clickers from the last of us

tranquil galleon
tardy coral
rapid chasm
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heres a hint, No Eyes, or nose. It Has nostrils and a mouth, No eyes tho, It is tall and leans down. It's name Starts with a M and its a type H Strain. ( This is from the research I have done )

safe ravine
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They are the cannibals/tribals but they also aren't because they don't seem to have any official name yet. Some of us have started referring to them as "The Nameless"

https://youtu.be/HEFXKJPx35Q

tardy coral
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Thank u guys 😄

rustic halo
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<@&401466542140817419> ^

fickle heron
# icy onyx

So it is not only a parody on Jurassic Park.... it is now just Carnivores with slightly more anatomically correct dinosaurs???

icy onyx
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I mean, the inspirations of The Isle make it better.
I prefer to have something closer to things like JP than something completely different
as I grew up on it

sharp knoll
icy onyx
bleak frigate
# icy onyx

This shits going to turn into Ark at that rate

somber oyster
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What about the guy that got in? Throu log in button or something what hqppened?

dire haven
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I might just be over thinking it but what’s this red stuff behind the isle logo and also on the ground, now that I think about it, looks like an ark loot drop 😂

strange shell
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I think it's sunlight behind the leaves

outer verge
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Thats kinda what happends when you starve community of clues & progress

eager marsh
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<@&401466542140817419> ^

strange shell
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I actually have something lore-related to say about the last phase-two posts. We can debunk the "jurassic park" theory where dinos were supposed to be contained, because all the buildings we can see are bunkers or made in hidden or hard-to-reach places, with no trace of broken down fences or walls. That means that dinos were always supposed to be roaming the Island, along with several teams of humans who moved across the island from one building to another using vehicles (potentially the gyrocopter we can see in one of the concepts) probably for study or observation.

drifting falcon
strange shell
# drifting falcon Then I suppose you missed the big containment wall at the outsides of V3 map 😂 ...

Well not everywhere. We know there are walls for sure, but looking at how huge and separated away from each other they are, they are probably meant to partition niches/biomes. What I'm saying anyways is dinos weren't contained in the sense that they were always meant to be roaming around the island, with humans hidden in bunkers in the middle of their territory, without any fence or wall to separate them

drifting falcon
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Oh I understand you now. Yes totally truth. We have not a Park with fences yeah.

rapid chasm
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And maybe outside of the fence's is a lab or a research facility. there could be tunnels under ground

nocturne cosmos
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also strains could be running about on one side

stone crater
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Do we have any guesses as to why profiles are injected into recreated extinct reptiles, specifically?? Like, I would say “dinosaurs”, but we’ve got pterosaurs, crocodilians, and lizards now, so the scope of “playable” has widened, though not beyond “extinct reptile”.

strange shell
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My guess is that those had something specific in their oganisms, genes or something that allowed them to turn into strains. Or, basically, imagine the "strain juice" is something that is produced in tiny amount, only by those extinct reptiles. Scientists brought them back to life to extract that "strain juice" and play with it to be able to turn things into actual strains, and also study why only those extinct reptiles are able to produce/handle them. Also note that hyperendocrin is made from an existing hormone, but tissoplastic and neurotenic aren't.

stone crater
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But not all playables will be able to become strains— why bother perpetuating something like Psittacosaurus if the only goal is to create profiles with bodies receptive to strains??

strange shell
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This is something I cannot answer to without making vague guesses. Food ? Still produces "strain juice" even though they decided to never give taco the strain treatment ? Or it's the replicator who decides which species will be replicated, and the scientists merely allowed or disallowed for the replication of each asset ?

fickle heron
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My perspective would be that they did not know which of the animals was actually capable of producing the chemical that they wanted as Bubul has already said. So they basically produced multiple different species to figure out which ones contained it.

spice rivet
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I dont know that this is some kind of research facility and the dinos run away, like scape

wicked sable
strange shell
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Get Ark out of the equation and you're right.

icy onyx
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^ yes

serene dagger
# strange shell Well not everywhere. We know there are walls for sure, but looking at how huge a...

-The unpredictable nature of a profile within the mind of a dinosaur was resolved with an affinity complex. we could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them that it was what they wanted.

-Chaos is the surest form of control.

-Everything is not as it seems. You are controlled. You are conditioned.

-Repeating the same patterns is what they want you to do.
-Greetings, user.

so that was in the isle loading screens yk... so i can totally agree

sharp knoll
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because is about giant space ships, space...

rustic halo
strange shell
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I take that as a "stop trying to guess here the Isle is located, I didn't think about it and it's just a fictional place"
Or it's in the Bermuda Triangle
Connected lore with Beasts of Bermuda confirmed

outer verge
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Wouldnt be surprised at this point

ivory escarp
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Sounds like a scam And even if it didnt, this Is definetely Wrong channel

pseudo forge
# wicked sable

a long time ago i made a theory that was AE and phoenix where enemy company's like ingen and biosyn and they where both cannon

buoyant river
thin vine
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i didnt even know The Isle and Primal Carnage was connected xd

pseudo forge
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phoenix made there dinosaurs for military purpose which explains why they have hyper aggression and team work and are hard to kill AE i still am not quite sure. there could be a lot of reasons

rapid chasm
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and when you go to some places the glitch sometimes has a faded phoenix logo and the AE logo

strange shell
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PI and AE are actually enemies, not allies
Maybe they were allies once though, who knows

nocturne cosmos
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yeah AE stole shit from PI

pseudo forge
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i thought they where enemies

rapid chasm
strange shell
rapid chasm
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shared products

fresh cloud
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Does anyone know how Primal Carnage and The Isle actually connect?

rustic halo
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Apollo Engineering and Phoenix International are rival companies that like stealing assets from eachother. One canon event we know of is something called Operation Inferno, which I don’t know the full details of but it was pretty significant. You can also just look at the PC Rex and the Magna Rex to see they’re nearly identical when accounting for difference in art style.

fresh cloud
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Isnt it kinda weird how this menu art back from when the game first came out depicts a Hypo-Rex years before the concept of Hypos were even introduced?

safe ravine
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Eh, just because the concept of hypos wasn't public information doesn't mean the devs didn't know about it when getting the art of it

deft saffron
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There were strain concepts on the original Kickstarter page long before the game was released.

fresh cloud
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It just make me wonder how far the Devs thought things through at the very start...

safe ravine
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Well, they definitely knew they wanted a horror survival humans vs dinosaurs type game

icy onyx
silk pike
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When will the parasaurolophus be invented in the game

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In evrima i mean
TI_ParaBaby

outer verge
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Not really lore related

pseudo forge
rose wraith
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the lore stuff that they talked about like 3 years ago is that stil happening?

swift jacinth
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For mercs expect general PMC folks, for tribals general inbreds. Given the setting of the game, highly doubt you can have such a colorful rainbow hair, or too colorful gear available. Black, grey, browns, greens, natural colors, viable camo options, natural hair and skin colors to be expected.

shell adder
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why are there so many barrels of isopropyl alcohol at the swamp base?

wicked tusk
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Maybe its a storage site for first aid supplies

outer verge
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Or something else

shell adder
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so many barrels and yet not one centrifuge to be seen

subtle rapids
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Hello, it´s my first post here. I don´t know if anybody ever notice the underwater canals deep in the ocean... Are this old or new? Happy to know what the devs were up to ; )

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A closer look...

icy onyx
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Alright. We know how Neuros have like, telepathic abilities, right?
And we can assume that the "Dinos" are basically just Human minds in the body of the dinos.
And the "Thousand Life Contract" thing.
So what IF. What if people sign a contract, and their mind just goes in the body of a Dino. And each time they die, due to some Neuro telepathy shit, their mind just keeps on being put from dino to dino

spare zodiac
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...

ornate seal
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Hasn’t it already been soft-confirmed that the replicator is what’s causing the ‘cycle’?

spare zodiac
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My theory is that its kinda like jurrasic park, where they tried to contain dinosaurs in cages then boom they escaped, but with the isle once the dinosaurs escaped they kinda switched to see how the dinosaurs would adapt in there new habitat, and gentically motified them to see how that would go, those include hypos, neuros, etc. Basically in short AE made dinosaurs to make test on them and study them to see how they would adapt on an island and are currently making hypos for some reason

icy onyx
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And then what about the tribals and the Humanoid-Like Strains

rustic halo
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My theory is that the the Replicator turned against the humans and let the dinosaurs run wild, then made the Tribals to worship it and act as a physical presence on the island to complete tasks that it couldn’t remotely. Humanoid Strains would be perfected versions of the Tribals based on the traits of the already existing Dinosaur Strains that it would bestow upon favorable or particularly strong Tribals.

ornate seal
rustic halo
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I.. really have no idea. As far as I know nothing has been really said about either AE or Phoenix International’s motivations in using dinosaurs/prehistoric reptiles in general over anything else, or what they’re trying to achieve with them in the first place

ornate seal
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I mean I’m guessing they were working toward something along the lines of immortality; eternal life and such, PC were rivals and Æ stole assets and altered them to how they saw fit.
Perhaps something set off the replicator to logically see this cycle as ‘optimal’. Considering you never actually die. Your physical form is killed but you move onto a different creatures body, hence the ‘THE END IS NEVER THE END’
Pretty sure PC made the dinosaurs for militaristic purposes though, with all of the combat adaptations and such. I guess making dinosaurs is just never a good idea TI_HypsiShrug

narrow marsh
ornate seal
ornate seal
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Or maybe some geneticist was bored and had recently watched the new Godzilla movie TI_HypsiShrug
we may never truly know

wicked tusk
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Its been soft confirmed that hypos are genetic mutations caused by biomagnification of weird genetically modified plant (insert dondi scary tree speech) compounds consumed by herbivores and sent up the food chain, so when a t rex has too much Hypo Juice it has hypo babies, the way i understand. So hypos are almost certainly an accident, which caused Æ to engineer the magnatyrannus to kill them, but i wouldnt put it past apollo engineering to copy hypo genomes for their own purposes (ending ecosystems)

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The ui leads us to believe that we're human minds controlling these animals, and can access them through old overgrown terminal. If i had to guess neuros are Æ peacekeepers that keep things from getting out of hand

visual charm
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it does sound legit

agile dirge
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I draw a lot of similarities between how the replicator and how SOMA’s WAU behave, with the WAU being given orders to ensure the survival of the human race, but was never properly given guidelines while also being given near complete autonomy in its decisions. Once it clued into humans being lost forever when their meat bag dies, it made the machinery equipped with AI into new mediums for the copied versions of the humans minds. As for the replicator and Æ’s choice to use dinosaurs, I’d make a wild guess at PI figuring out the tech first for military purposes as a massive amount of technology in human history has, and Æ just wanting a piece of their work for their own and reversed it so they can produce their own dinos. The use of dinos in human experimentation might be a way (because they show great moral code in the first place) to skip around the Nuremberg and Mandela trials by not playing with human genetic modification, Directly. But that’s just my own uneducated opinion, take it as you will with a grain of salt

glossy dawn
#

the lore of TI and primal carnage is still interconnected?

ornate seal
strange shell
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The Isle and Primal Carnage: Extinction are basically two different timelines branching from the original Primal Carnage

sharp knoll
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extinction is more on the future

drifting falcon
pearl citrus
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So is this channel basically a way for the devs to lift plot ideas that are cool and don't violate Universal Picture's intellectual property?

icy onyx
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Perhaps. The basic lore stuff isn't really like Universal's stuff, but it's not the most original either. Robot cloning "Dinosaurs", robot goes rogue and forces people off the island.

pearl citrus
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Hmmmm

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When I was new to the game, before I realized there was any human element, I hoped it was actually set in a prehistoric period. But I guess that wouldn't make sense to have dinosaurs from different ages mixed, unless it was some kind of land bridge to Madagascar kind of idea.

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Not knowing the details, I would expect a robot to make hybrids, rather than genuine copies of the original DNA.

I think a fresh take would be to move away from the well funded mega corp trope and make it a hacky group with a CRISPR working it out on the cheap. Then things get out of hand, not from a lack of creativity, but from a genuine lack of resources, which is a scarcity the game probably needs.

toxic breach
cosmic temple
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what do you guys think the colossus is?

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i think is a human injected with the hyperendocrine strain, perhaps something else was thrown in there...

gentle vessel
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I say human, injected with the dna from a hyper rex in order to get those more reptilian features to show up

steel summit
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carnage extinction is the prequel to the isle as humans were overthrown by dinosaurs

ornate seal
icy void
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On Trello when they said you can choose to not die as an elder and become something far more terrifying are the devs talking about you can choose to become a strain?

pseudo forge
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how long do you think ae existed as a company?

wintry dagger
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40 years, from the 1960s until now

pseudo forge
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oh wow thats what i thought

wintry dagger
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Thats just my believe, i dont know if we have any information on how old it is, 1960s just makes sense to me, maybe a result of the cold war

eager marsh
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i heard it took place in the 2000’s, 1900’s sound possible too

cosmic temple
lyric fossil
cosmic temple
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oh yea or maybe if say, you are dying as an elder rex, spino, giga ect, you can become the hypo of that dino?

gentle vessel
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They just said “something more terrible” doesn’t mean hyper 100% of the time

icy onyx
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basically, "terrible" is more general.
More so, strains then hyper

cosmic temple
#

yea i can see that

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what do you think happened to the people?, were they killed by the dinos, or did they flee the island in fear?, also what do u guys ( and girls) think of the hypo raptor, what do you think its special perk is?

sharp knoll
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I remember on dondi stream where he was making on evrima I saw hypo utah

loud adder
cosmic temple
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i kind of like it, could do with some diferent colors tho

sick urchin
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Special ability is having two massive toe claws per foot whoopity dooo

sinful void
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I thought it was also going to be able to open doors

hexed flax
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The Type-M Utah was supposed to be able to open doors, but now they want all Utahs to be able to do that

mighty abyss
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swamp. shrek confirmed as cannibal

karmic wraith
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Who do you guys think is the head of the mercs?

If it is any like the scp universe and they have an entire organization above the mercs foot soldiers or if it's just an military force that took on the containment over the creatures untill they could have done the missions have been fulfilled

sharp knoll
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I cant say is like scp

strange shell
karmic wraith
magic lichen
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just surton ones

native burrow
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i cant wait for evrima to be finished, i want a scary game that makes me not even wanna play it

flint oar
#

Lore ?

icy onyx
minor lava
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<@&401466542140817419> wawawoee

karmic wraith
icy void
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So for the Isle's world, are the assets living on the island on purpose-(Were they released on the island for study) or did they escape enclosures like jurassic park?

rustic halo
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There doesn’t seem to be any enclosures built up on the map, which could be a matter of the devs simply don’t have the assets to put them in right now, or the dinosaurs are meant to be free roaming

icy void
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Oh ok so what's with some Concept art like the mosasaurus in that huge tank, like are only some assets meant to be contained like the hypos and I guess experimental marine assets like the mosasaurus

rustic halo
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Probably, Mosasaurus and the strains are definitely special cases when compared to the other creatures

karmic wraith
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How will they keep mosa near the island? And don't tell me with that electro shield bubble around the map its way to unrelying specially on an island full of land dwelling dinosaurs cause we seen what they do to human structures

strange shell
karmic wraith
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I see that but it'll still be able to swim in the ocean so it could littarly just say fuck that I go for whales now.... Oh look other islands

void apex
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isn't the mosasaurus stuck in a pool...?

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ya know, this thing?

icy onyx
# void apex isn't the mosasaurus stuck in a pool...?

Yeah probably. Because releasing it into the wild is a stupid idea. Not only do you lose your work (unless you have put a GPS tracker onto it, which is a bit hard for a marine reptile covered in keeled scales), you threaten existing oceanic ecosystems.

karmic wraith
# void apex ya know, this thing?

I don't think it'll be done like that cause like That mosa does not pose any sort of thread for anything cause people will know there is a more in there so they just don't go there and then mosa either way will starve or becomes a chill dino that no one will mess with in the first place so having it in the ocean but then a litteral wall around the island seems to be the only way to keep it protected

But flyers are still a thing so who am I to talk lol

void apex
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well, it feels like the mosa would starve as fast as the humans are gone since there is no clear way for it to get into a large body of water where it can find sufficient prey but honestly, I still have no idea, considering it is from 3 year old stream we can't really know if it is still canon that the mosa pen exists

icy onyx
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its very unreasonable tbh

karmic wraith
void apex
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yeah, I know, but how long would a mosa actually last?

icy onyx
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mosasaurs are probably (partly) warm blooded. Though, if being reasonable, it might only be able to exist in the tropics. Also it depends on the genus/species of mosasaur (is it large or small, for example)

karmic wraith
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Depence on the season and part of the world it is I could imagine a mosa atleast surviving a fwe years before having done too much damage to the eco system

exotic kite
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Well if Mosa is anything like a whale, it can survive several months without eating.

ornate seal
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But considering how much overgrowth has happened (title screen for reference with the incredibly sanitary monitor) I doubt it’d just be left alone for “several months”

ember rover
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Okay. Facilities around. Dinosaurs. Mercenaries. Experiments.

So, is the OG theory of "The Isle" being a corporate experiment gone wrong, out of the picture yet?

rustic halo
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Afaik, Æ make dinosaurs on quest for immortality, Put AI in charge of everything, said AI goes rogue and takes over the island, The Isle

marsh elm
#

I saw the devs are planning to add Mushrooms on update 4, but actually, they are not considered meat or plant, so what do you guys think those mushrooms are going to be?

lavish gyro
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mushrooms will be for herbivores and omnivores

karmic wraith
#

I think the biggest thing the mercs could do is damage control until they somehow manages to capture it

vagrant rose
#

So I have something, what is "The Unknown\Cannibal" exactly, I've heard it might be a tribal human that has eaten another Tribal member but i dont think so.

safe ravine
#

Community's collective lore for Ben:
((Not the official lore because we don't know Ben's official lore)) Updated: Aug 25, 2021

Origin:

  • Considered a cryptid in the isle, Ben is a 'failed' early experiment and/or malformed dilophosaurus.
  • Was made artificially and not hatched naturally from an egg. Images of early development "Ben's" in large test tubes.
  • Has a unique condition called shortened spine syndrome giving her her stunted appearance.
  • The replicator released Ben unto the world allowing her to live and even thrive in situations other, considerably better dinosaurs, wouldn't be able to. We don't know why.

Abilities:

  • Very fast and scurries about
  • Partial invisibility and heightened perception abilities. Possibly due to being contaminated with neuro strain DNA. (This is also the source of her odd blue color)
  • Eyes glow red at night when shined by a light source.
  • Ben cannon, can fire a laser from her mouth.

Vocals:

  • Vocal cords are also malformed. Ben's vocals are distorted and sound more akin to terrible screeching than the cool cooing of a normal dilophosaurus.

Behavior:

  • Like any classic cryptid, rarely seen but encounters vary from a quick glimpse before she flees to deadly encounters with little to no survivors.
  • Ben prefers to scavenge for food but will easily take down prey smaller than herself.
  • Curious but flighty
wraith adder
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i love ben

vagrant rose
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Is this just random cause' I wasn't talking about "Ben"

icy onyx
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Ben is always talked about

vagrant rose
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Ok, but I was talking about the pasty white beast that is super tall, "the Unknown"

rustic halo
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I don’t think we have any official confirmation on those dudes, aside from the fact they’re somehow related to Tribals. There’s a few theories though.

vagrant rose
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oh well that sucks but I cant wait until it comes out! also can we play as humans yet? ive tried multiple servers and I couldn't play as a human.

rustic halo
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That’s more for #isle-discussion , but no, humans are not playable and were only available for a short time back in legacy

safe ravine
vagrant rose
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ok

mighty abyss
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So Ben is canon now?

safe ravine
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Yes

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But the above post is a collection of community made lore and is not the official lore

tranquil galleon
wraith adder
tranquil galleon
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😐

sonic rampart
#

I'm sure that the admin is well aware of this channel's rules.

safe ravine
# tranquil galleon <:void:871862976477560852>

It is the current going lore theories on Ben that the majority of the community agrees on conveniently gathered into one post instead of having to dig around and find every discussion on Ben ever.

icy onyx
lavish gyro
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dondi is obsessed with ben
like sometimes all he posts is ben references

hexed flax
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Any idea what could be put into these gaps?

wintry dagger
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first gap a number maybe like "isle 101" second gap radio or warn maybe and 3rd gap team

quiet sorrel
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Maybe the third is herd and it could be why the research team died cause something or someone interupted them while the pachies where fighting or doing their usual thing.

wintry dagger
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oh yeah that makes sense

icy onyx
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I would've thought the three characters next to the isle would be either 'one' or 'two', in reference to the number of islands under AE's control.

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As in, 'this is island one, where we had the pachy incident'.

sage scarab
icy onyx
slow delta
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ill update the doc with info from the pachy video i suppose, has there been any other info these past months. i remember seeing something in chat but i forgot

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btw i never got around to checking if these morse codes are new, so if you feel like it you can do it. I used a morse code decoder app that could translate light and i leaned my phone on the screen so the camera could pick up all the light signals uninterrupted with me having to hold the phone constantly. Sadly because the devs have a bad habit of making morse code binary, you need really long footage to even decode a single sentence which is why i kinda gave up on the morse codes

hexed flax
slow delta
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I deleted it some time ago and now i cant find it on google play, either it's super down the list due to its age or it got deleted. But now there's a bunch of light decoders so i think any one of those would work

scenic carbon
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The redacted signal stops dinosaurs from perceiving humans, and humans have been on the island next to us dinosaurs the whole time, watching us. When humans are playable, it will be explained as the dinosaurs evolving to ignore the signal.

slow delta
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dont worry the app wasnt that great, it mistranslated a lot of stuff into random symbols so i had to rerun it a bunch of times and that was a pain in the ass

scenic carbon
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It doesn't matter what is in the gaps, it's just code designations or pseudo science names. What matters is the affect and the fact there are multiple research islands.

slow delta
hexed flax
# slow delta only thing that comes to mind is the first gap is one of the island names

Yeah. I went through the google drive document, but none of the important words like replicator or apollo fit in the gaps (referring to the signal).

But at least we know that Apollo was controlling the dinosaurs with this signal so they didn't atttack the researchers. Then something suddenly interfered with the signal which forced Apollo to leave the islands because the dinosaurs attacked them.

slow delta
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the pachy video has more info than what it seems at first glance. the apollo loading menus are always full of stuff. google doc updated

slow delta
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there's a bunch of numbers in the video background but it's not binary or hex. and without any other clues it could be a million types of ciphers or nothing at all

hexed flax
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"REGION_NUMBER_12 SPIRO_0205" i think this means that spiro is isle #12

slow delta
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or that site 12 is on spiro

slow delta
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If i remember right there's 3 islands. 12 would be too much. And site 12 has connections with olympus

hexed flax
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True. But there have to be at least 4 islands. V2, V3, Spiro (or Spero as a whole) V1 and Gateway (might be V1)

slow delta
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idk if the versions count as different islands or if they got de-canonized after evrima

charred dust
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What if the world is full with dinosaur sites, but somewhere, The Isle is just a low island next to a bigger one that creates all kinds of monsters and strains. Next to Spiro is a small isle that Dondi said is very hard to get to. Who knows. Maybe The Isle is the story of that Isle where the strains escape and make their way to Spiro and all the signals sent on twitter are from Spiro sites that send SOS signals to other sites across the world and they send help. The Isle might be a secret organisation that the other sited don't know about. And the strains one day escape and invade spiro.

hexed flax
slow delta
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idk man the console stream is so old and our understanding of the lore is from bread crumps. so much for dondi having the entire lore and a book and releasing more of it

hexed flax
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Yeah, he could really start to release more lore. Maybe update 4 :/

slow delta
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for real

rapid pebble
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i didn't even know there was lore in the isle!

icy onyx
rapid pebble
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oh cool!

buoyant river
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I would rather lore releases be secondary to gameplay releases

icy onyx
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singleplayer story mode after Isle release 👍
a lot easier to convey a proper story

buoyant river
# icy onyx singleplayer story mode after Isle release 👍 a lot easier to convey a proper st...

I don’t think there ever was a story mode planned

What would you even have a story mode follow? Dinos? Tribals? Mercs?

Isle was always meant to be multiplayer at its core as far as I know, story mode hasn’t been mentioned once, and I’ve been following the isle since day 1 of early access

What I believe it’s going to be is small details hidden around the map and in elements of gameplay that help you discover bits and pieces of lore over time

icy onyx
# buoyant river I don’t think there ever was a story mode planned What would you even have a st...

Yes I know there isn't a planned proper story mode for The Isle.

||Although it would probably be focused around Mercs, seeing as that would make sense||

However, I'm not sure how Dondi wants to push the "Ending of The Isle" - in it's narrative, when lore is only expressed in areas such as hidden map easter eggs etc.

Yes, doesn't mean they can't convey a story. But you'd feel less connected to lore compared to if you were actually in it. Making the "Destroy me emotionally" ending, quite hard to reach.

buoyant river
icy onyx
buoyant river
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There’s not really any way I can see the Isle “destroying me emotionally” tbh but then again most movies or games don’t do that for me

If you ask me, the Isle from what we have heard and seen seems to be leaning more towards lovecraftian/cosmic horror, so an ending that reflects the type of feelings you’d get from that, such as from movies like The Thing or Annihilation or Call of Cthulhu.

The things that make me suspect that’s the direction the story will go are things such as strains, matriarch, etc
Simply things beyond our own understanding

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And if dondi wanted his lore to be as secret as he says he does, the outcome of that vote probably does not matter in the slightest, he would do what the community is not expecting if he keeps it secretive as it is

icy onyx
buoyant river
icy onyx
slow delta
icy onyx
quiet sorrel
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my theory on how possibly the four different endings will be like will be either A: The mercs succeed in doing what their employers want (whatever that may be). B: they manage to do the right thing in a sense where they will stop the replicator or whoever/whatever the real threat behind everything (possibly going against their employers if their employers don't want to really stop everything and just make themselves more powerful). C: the mercs either try doing the right thing or what their employers want but mess up in the end and unleash something bad on the island, themselves or possibly the world. D: That the tribals and/or replicator succeeds in whatever task it was trying to accomplish and is able to carry out its next step whatever it may be. i could see the mercs and maybe tribals having a story element to them in the way where they can choose to carry out missions/tasks which could lead to a location on the map and a ending in a sense that starts whatever on that server and then after a bit the server goes back to normal. Then again i'm not sure and i could be surprised by the outcome of the game and lore the path it takes.

karmic wraith
# quiet sorrel my theory on how possibly the four different endings will be like will be either...

i actually think the mission and reason the mercs are being called active from AE is to retrieve the research left on the island or to follow further study on creature and their natural based bhvr but since everything did go down and for the security of the personal from AE weaponry has been provided for any kind of trouble they'll run into the first place and after the data has been successfully gathered it is about containment and damage control until further missions has been ordered how ever this only would make since if my theory is correct that the so called "mercs" are actually a military force working for AE

quiet sorrel
karmic wraith
ornate tree
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I think the lore is that

Jurassic park

icy onyx
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you think

karmic wraith
# ornate tree I think the lore is that Jurassic park

We never had any vasilitys that shows to be an amusement park and nor has it ever given any hints in any concept art about any similarly between those two

exept the fact about being an island group with dinosaurs that used to have humans and then did go south but also not even cause of the same reason

ornate tree
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Yes

robust ether
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Honestly the ben lore was the true high quality stuff.

karmic wraith
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lore always is high quality stuff if it is written well

lavish gyro
slow delta
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tfw I thought the pachy was going to open the floodgate to more lore hints

hexed flax
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Pachy isn't released yet so there is still hope. But imo i don't think we will get anything big before nesting or nightvision. The nightvision could be used like UV light so you can only find some things at night

nocturne cosmos
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the day we get more lore will be a great one

hasty mirage
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two words: scp foundation

slow delta
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i mean we got a few pieces of lore sauce in the pachy trailer, at this point anything'll do

nocturne cosmos
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i beg they start back up the lore shit

karmic wraith
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Stead of begging for more rather be happy on what we already have

nocturne cosmos
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no

slow delta
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no

icy onyx
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no

edgy pike
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no

digital mulch
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Yes

plush urchin
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Yes

sleek temple
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No

icy onyx
cedar forum
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What does a wild boar mean for the lore? ^^

ornate seal
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Means that they could have brought them onto the island to sustain the carnivorous dinosaurs
Either that or the modern animals have just been living on the island since before AE started their work

abstract wagon
lament swift
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🐖

karmic wraith
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This is a map with wild boar population considering that we narrow the area where the island is already really down my opinion is that the island is somewhere in the marked area

Sorry my poor editing skill

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And here's a list of reasons why

Military force seems easy to reach the place

We got to know the fauna

The climate seems was more tropical meaning its closer to the equator

And standing on the beach of the island nothing but water

pallid turtle
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It could be in the pacific between the USA and japan

karmic wraith
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I did consider that too but the fact that the island is quickly reached by the mercs kinda strikes this thought for me cause in case of an emergency

strange shell
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Maybe it's the opposite, they want the island to be in a remote area in order to not be found doing their barely-ethical experiments ?
Would reinforce the theory that mercs are stuck on the island, too

karmic wraith
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Well If my theory is correct about AE they have enough military force and help from the coverment to keep one island secured for a six kilometer area with out any issues

strange shell
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I'm afraid we'll have to wait for the release of mercs to understand what's going on

karmic wraith
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Yeah I agree on that

slow delta
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the boar is certainly interesting but we cant really be sure if that's a native wild population or if it was brought it by AE or by earlier people

pallid turtle
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The boars could have been introduced by spanish or british explorers that wanted to make a colony and then abandoned the island

karmic wraith
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Yes but since they still managed to keep the population up meaning the nature and climate is productive for the species

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It be interesting to know what species of boars we deal with honestly that determin so much more

icy onyx
karmic wraith
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Well yeah that's why they also had to build the swamp

But if the climate isn't correct for a species specially like boars need specific temperature else they'd go extinct on the island

safe ravine
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I think a tropical island is suitable for boars no?

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They are quite adaptable creatures

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Maybe they are actually feeder pigs for the dinosaurs that changed into boars over the years after the island was abandoned TI_Think

karmic wraith
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Really depence actually on what species of boars we are dealing with the central European boar is really more suited for cold wheater rather then tropical and I couldn't see them thrive on an tropical island

hexed flax
karmic wraith
icy onyx
karmic wraith
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Yes but I wouldn't set it so far down on the map to say it is in the southern hemisphere

icy onyx
karmic wraith
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All in all is what I conclude is that the island how ever anyone wanna call it now is more located on the warmer part of the Atlantic Ocean considering of the information fauna/flora we have currently

And maybe AE renamed the islands for operational purposes in due to information towards puplic press in the case some information would leak at some point

cinder atlas
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Approaching it from the climate needs of things such as a Redwood Forest may be a better approach, if you wanted to base a theory on a singular species.

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And also

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Why wouldn't it be the Southern Hemisphere?

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It's rather illogical to not include that possibility.

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There's nothing to say it's not.

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New Zealand and Australia both can have tropical climes and redwood trees, so, if anything it's slightly more likely to be in the Southern Hemisphere.

gentle vessel
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Probably somewhere in the south pacific, more remote, easier to hide

karmic wraith
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It certainly is not a flawed method to determine somethings location on the cff method (climate flora fauna) now I do have to say that the island inhabits the domestic chicken is a complete cold trail and those could just been the last animals out of the feeders

And I don't consider it to be in the southern hemisphere cause even if you have tons and tons from mobile military action bases they still need supply and it is easyer to react in the altantic ocean then it be on the pacific due to size

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Now I do agree on you that the Russian boar pretty much can thrive everywhere but setting up a theory on a local area animal like a boar from behavior whise is certainly not the worse guess to go by for a theory

cinder atlas
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You admit that it's flawed by stating you're using that method with a species in mind that is widespread literally throughout most of the world. Lol

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Let alone, you go against your own method by selecting an area that is less likely to have some of the intended flora, such as Redwoods.

karmic wraith
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It's no where near a area that is not capable of having redwoods cause it is on the same equator level where the redwoods forest in America is just more east

cinder atlas
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I never said it's not capable, I said it's less likely.

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And latitude and longitude are not sole decided factors.

karmic wraith
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No of course not as we already know in the lore of the isle humans have been interfering with the flora aka Terra forming the isle all the time such as being capable of planting redwoods there

cinder atlas
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Terraforming probably isn't the appropriate term to use there unless we start getting domes of localized atmosphere and such. Planting redwoods isn't hard. Them growing and remaining healthy in what would be a potentially stressful environment would be. There's also the facet that could make the entire point moot by the devs just wanting redwoods and having no justifications behind it.

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But, as a biologist, I've not heard of your "cff" method but I would certainly not be using it with invasive species as the variables.

karmic wraith
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i do agree on this they probably didn't had much thought other then redwoods cool and so far for my method i learned it from an teacher out of my school who where a hunter in his free time also on the point of keeping the trees healthy id say and wouldn't be surprised if they aren't pure redwoods anymore after a ton on genetic manipulation and crossbreeding with other needle trees such as pine tree

slow delta
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i do believe that it's more likely for the isle to take place in the southern hemisphere but without more concrete evidence nothing is set in stone

karmic wraith
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We could get a really amazing evidence in the game with star arrangement to get a way more precise placement where the island would be located but I think that be too much to ask from the devs

safe ravine
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Pretty sure they're just using the dynamic sky BP so unless they purposely place specific constellations ya I wouldn't use the stars as an accurate way to find the island location x)

nocturne cosmos
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a better way would be the ai or even sounds if they place them their purposly that is since some aniamls are rare or are in fewer places

gentle vessel
cinder atlas
gentle vessel
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Especially on a remote island base, that has cloning tech

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Since that means they could just, clone the animals that are weird to be on the island

gilded raven
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hey, I found a really weird spot with strange guttural/water like sounds. There's also a little rock formation

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here's the coords

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here's an image of the spot. there's some really creepy gurgling sounds being played here, that aren't found elsewhere. I have no idea how this could play into lore, but I just wanted to let you guys know

safe ravine
gilded raven
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Oh okay, just thought I would share

finite cloud
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me trying to find out why this exist

sonic rampart
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To discuss The Isle's lore

buoyant river
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Just when you thought the isle community could read they yet again prove not to be able to

clear plaza
placid glacier
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the sound emitter is there, just not the rest

pseudo forge
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The isle lore- Crazy scienctist make Dinosaurs and release them into the unknown island asteroid impact the island! And the Dinosaurs is getting sold by richers!-someone told me this and i dont think its correct or at least i have never heard of

strange shell
pseudo forge
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yea thats what i thought

azure carbon
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who told you this?

safe ravine
sharp knoll
pallid turtle
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Devs (Dondi) talk about Ben

eager marsh
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idk if i’m crazy but i’m prettyyy dang sure i can hear a faded primal carnage rex roar in the distance as ambience, maybe they’re gonna keep primal carnage intertwined with the lore?

strange shell
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I don't see why they wouldn't

vast vigil
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Is the hypo thing still goin or not

strange shell
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yes

sharp knoll
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when was the first appearance of magna tyrannus (not question)

eager marsh
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yea i know, just didn’t know if they were gonna keep doing it or not

sharp knoll
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yeah they will

noble harbor
sharp knoll
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If you see the transmissions you can see there how AE received the signals from PI and Operation Inferno

icy onyx
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what is AE?

sturdy plank
icy onyx
leaden oyster
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this game reminds me of dino crises

icy onyx
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Isle Lore theory! What if.. aliens invaded earth and set up one big reality show, with unaware people being trapped on the island with dino's for the pure and utterly unmatched pleasure of dinosaur cliff hangers! Looking for the camera easter eggs whilst in the woods. O.O

olive whale
loud gate
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yea or unfinished cave

last sun
# olive whale looks like it was suppose to be a waterfall

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hexed flax
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@slow delta i found the app that you mentioned. But i don't understand why the app turns the morse code into binary when you can just translate the light into actual letters

slow delta
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Its not the app translating it into binary. Everytime you open the menu a new morse code plays and most of them are in binary. So you have to translate the morse, then you get binary and then convert that to letters. Some morse codes are letters but not all of them

hexed flax
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I see

slow delta
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Dinosauriac made the sentences into binary and then morse to make it harder to decode and make it seem larger than it is. :(

hexed flax
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He left, didn't he? Which means no more binary in future updates

slow delta
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Unless the devs continue on with his tradition

dusty rivet
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dinosaurs on an island

nova cypress
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Yes, so true

pallid turtle
steel flume
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I think humans decided to clone dinosaurs on an isle and opened a park and all the dinosaurs ate the people and the humans abandoned the isle. Thats the lore. Yw

fallow oak
dense spade
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So from what I've seen (and i know a lot is in the air and subject to change) AE steals Dna assets from Phoenix blah blah blah..... We know this. AE and a number of different islands I know of Replicator is created and becomes self-aware and decides that it likes to see things suffer.

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They speak of a 2nd Dome, Taurus (The prison of the titans so heavy containment) and such but more importantly of the gateways

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Me thinkys that the gateways are a couple of things, 1. A way of transporting things, People, Material , Dinos you name it to the different test sites and island without hassle 2. Some sort of storage/ information + power umbilical cord that allow access to anything connected (so massive LAN internet but bad-ass) and 3. an extension of the replicator a sort of gestation on the spot machine

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Sorta like this, it pops of of the ground from a hidden access point and it rips of the robo-placenta. This is then you wake up after you spawn in.

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So the Replicator controls the gateway a umbilical cord for everything and somehow either blackmails (by like saying your gonna suffer pain x a trillion if you don't listen to me) or forces all intelligence's into the gateway so it can cause them endless suffering by putting them in a unforgiving dinosaur world over and over. You own a Intelligence ID (I forgot the naem but it's linked to your steam ID) that is transferred no-matter what animal. Which means its canon you remember experiences that a new born creature could not have known and that you can change species.

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The Replicator likes suffering but also data, data is part of watching the suffering. It was said that tribals sacrifice things to the Replicator and it gains data which makes it favor them. So perhaps why AE hasn't stepped in is because the Replicator creates a unique environment for testing. Such as if a artist is suffering from a mental Illness and creates new and unique art that no one has created before. Maybe The Replicator is making generic jumps in science that go unexplained but work (such as the creation of new strains that would take decades in a few years ) or because it create a system where the strongest monsters get culled in days, and ravenous beasts to destructive to stay in one place have their hunger satiated for years. Perhaps the Mercs are also there to gain data and to experiment on one of the most unique places on "!?Earth?"(On second thought since we get to play as them Mercs might also be apart of the whole suffering loop)

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So anywho, Find dinos make dinos. Make machine and system to make making dinos efficiently and cheaper. machine takes over system and throws the whole operation in chaos and becomes sadistic. Company decides that it creates a unique opportunity/develops research faster so they decide to study it's actions instead of destroying it. *sorry for the long post and spelling errors, it's like 1:00am and i really wanted to throw this out there

strange shell
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I like your theory ! This reminds me of something I was thinking some time ago. Maybe AE didn't create the strains, but the Replicator did it on its own ? Then AE was so fascinated in them that they allowed the replicator to replicate them (except neuro spino), not knowing it would use them later to drive them off and claim the island as its own.

vague root
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I remember people talking about the global quest for mercs. Maybe we will eventually be ordered to destroy the replicator by AE

quiet sorrel
serene dagger
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from what material does the replicator create flesh etc to make dinos?
like it cant be just magic
so what if its like in AOT? the same method, material
or just near same

steel flicker
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And self reproducing cells

serene dagger
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.... thats boring

dense spade
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pffffff

gilded nymph
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i hope they make it so troodons can tear through bodies to hide in similar to dryo burrow animation but in a body

chilly orchid
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So I guess most of us then agreed on the theory that “the replicator” makes dinosaurs and those are the players that spawn right?

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However the dev team did say that spawned dinos wil get some kind of tracker of some sorts and hatchings that spawned from nesting won’t have them so does the replicator also give the tracker automatically?

strange shell
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Well it could
Remember the thing can create entire fucking regions, I don't think trackers are out of its capabilities

pallid turtle
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Can we be sure that the isle isnt on an island in the north?

nocturne cosmos
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We can get a rough estimate due to its climate and environment

plush raven
chilly orchid
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K thx I first tought it was like a research facility for humans to start making dinosaurs but this seems way cooler

plush raven
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good to know!

nocturne cosmos
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I think it’s just a normal tracker that was added to them

hexed flax
strange shell
hexed flax
strange shell
nocturne cosmos
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well it might not be making an island but instead be in charge of terraforming one and that is something that happens i think it was v 3 that was getting terraformed

rustic halo
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Make more sense ye, it’s given the clay, it has to mold it

vague root
dense spade
oblique tinsel
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If someone could write a massive paragraph on the WHOLE of the isles lore to me.. that would be great

sonic rampart
unreal monolith
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My Question is, what was Apollo Engineering planning on doing with the Dinosaurs they made? Were they gonna develop weapons from them, or take the John Hammond approach with a Theme Park?

rustic halo
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I don’t think anything is confirmed but a popular theory is immortality, with the human consciousnesses being uploaded to the dinosaur bodies and all

rustic halo
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The following question is usually “why dinosaurs then”, the answer to which I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is that they chose dinosaurs for being the closest to evolutionary perfection, having a much longer time period to progress unbridled than anything in the Cenozoic age.

strange shell
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My theory about "why dinosaurs" is tied to the strains. Below is an old post of mine about this.
My guess is that those had something specific in their oganisms, genes or something that allowed them to turn into strains. Or, basically, imagine the "strain juice" is something that is produced in tiny amount, only by those extinct reptiles. Scientists brought them back to life to extract that "strain juice" and play with it to be able to turn things into actual strains, and also study why only those extinct reptiles are able to produce/handle them. Also note that hyperendocrin is made from an existing hormone, but tissoplastic and neurotenic aren't.

nocturne cosmos
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It could be it started out as just trying to make dinosaurs and then slowly tunred into the whole lets put humans in these

rain crystal
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so my theory is still and has always been the good 'ole "they're trying to create the Ultimate Organism, for Reasons"

what are those reasons? hard to say. probably started out as a weapon-of-war thing but they've gone beyond that into just trying to recreate god

so they started with dinosaurs, because they were Big, Tough, and Toothy in a way that could still combat modern machinery (a bear can take on a car, but a rex could legit just step on it and it's done,) and they initially wanted to bio-engineer it, so they created the hypo strain. but then their hypo rex got defeated by a magna rex, Thronebreaker, and they realized they couldn't simply bioengineer something that was perfect- they'd have to behaviorally engineer it, as well.

so they set up the isles as a training grounds, of sorts. they wanted something that had a wealth of experiences to draw upon, that had lived and died thousands or millions of times, and seen from the eyes of the smallest herbivore to the biggest carnivore, and could determine the most optimal chances of survival in any given situation. they created "profiles," or compilations of the lives of dinosaurs, and they added human consciousnesses controlling the dinosaurs to make them act more unpredictably, but added incentives for acting more dinosaur-ey so the eventual creature would know how to actually sustain itself. (see: repeated mention to the "thousand life contract," and the "we could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them it was what they wanted")

but, at least one of the profiles went rogue, and took over the replicator. Echidna was probably a failed profile (potentially going into the fact that a consciousness created from a constant cycle of life and death would almost invariably be insane.) she took over the replicator and potentially attempted to combine human and dino DNA, creating the cannibals (or reviving a previous experiment that created them, since there do seem to be "official" result published of their mental degredation over time) and the experiment started to come apart. humans were either exterminated across the isles, most of the isles are now defunct, and the whole kit 'n kaboodle seems to have potentially escaped control of AE.

there are variables that I haven't quite sorted out yet, and a handful of cryptic messages from the transmitter, but ye, that's what i've got

lean harbor
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Could I get an explanation on what the “Transmissions” are in general?

sharp knoll
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Transmissions is like getting signals "messages"

lean harbor
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From an unknown source?

sharp knoll
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something like that

mental pelican
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Adding to the ‘what is replicator’ conversation. If you’ve ever watched Evangelion, it could be something like that. Where the replicator is similar to an Eva, both manmade but also a god-like force.

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Or maybe the replicator is a Deity that already existed, and was waiting for man to make it a vessel.

strange shell
quiet sorrel
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<@&401466542140817419>

hearty pulsar
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It would be interesting if all the players are AE personel observing the lives of the dinosaurs we play as, itd make a cannonical reason for the spawn select to be a computer screen
(Idk how viable this idea is, just kinda thought about it for a minute or two and figured I'd share here)

pallid turtle
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What if there are no dinosaurs, its just a bunch of raccoons being high as the sky and thinking they are dinosaurs

icy onyx
pallid turtle
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The replicator is just the person that gives them the drugs

vagrant jasper
visual ivy
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Are the cannibals failed clones that escaped or are they native to the isles?

plain grail
visual ivy
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Interesting

vast pebble
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does anyone know if the cannibals sounds from aviary were removed?

buoyant river
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Ben as a prototype for the cannibals through crossing human Dino dna

swift dagger
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Just to add to the ben pile. what if ben was an early draft of phoenix's attempts at dinosaurs, or even the strains. Just putting that out there : |

strange shell
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I think Ben has been made after they got dinos, hence why it's a dilo. But maybe you're right, who knows. At least we're pretty much sure she's a failed experiment. Or maybe a successful one ?

pallid turtle
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Imo Ben was created by the replicator just so it wouldnt be the only god-like thing

strange shell
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Now I'm wondering, is there any chance the Ben cannon is canon ? (Art by Sevra)

wraith adder
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ben is canon yes

icy onyx
icy onyx
strange shell
wraith adder
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yes thats canon i misread it

safe ravine
strange shell
swift dagger
signal hedge
swift dagger
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maybe

strange shell
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The Isle's dilo has actual venom, not just a very infectious bite.

opaque shale
strange shell
opaque shale
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No no, it's cool

wary helm
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The venom is different. The ingen dilophosaurus utilizes a venomous projectile spit to paralyze and blind it’s prey, while the Isle’s Dilo has a venomous bite

visual charm
void summit
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wtf is "Ben"?

icy onyx
void summit
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A dilo with a laser beam in its mouth?

sharp knoll
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no

void summit
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So what is she* then?

sonic rampart
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Ben was originally a photoshopped dilo made as a meme, people flocked to the idea, and Dondi canonized it

sharp knoll
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is a failed experimental creature

void summit
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neato, thank you

safe ravine
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@void summit

void summit
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Oh I love her*

strange shell
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her*

stray siren
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her*

ionic forum
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Idk if this is "lore", but the Troody's 1 and 4 calls caught my ear.

The 1 call, if you listen closely, sounds a tad bit like an "Oh yeah!", as if the first specimens of Troo mimicked an ecstatic, successful scientist. Over generations the troods could have taught this sound, it changing up over time to sound more like an "...Ooooohueaaa!"

The 4 call, I'm going to say this in one word: Screaming.

strange shell
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I think you're overthinking it. Also every 4-call in the game is basically a scream. Isn't troodon's 1-call inspired on some bird ?

sinful onyx
eager coral
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Troodon 1 call is just an excited "nyAAAA"

icy onyx
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For the sake of giving behind the scenes context, the calls of Troodon are a mix of hyena and gibbon. Uuh there's not too much information on why they sound like that(other than the fact that they probably have lyrebird like syrinxes) and if they just happen to make this sound or have learnt it.

eager coral
wary rampart
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that was ood

lapis cape
ionic forum
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Yeah, I just wanted to do something. Looking back after 4 days, I see now

visual ivy
icy bramble
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theory: dusty dinosaurs

deep ridge
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Why is everyone calling Ben her? Isent ben a kinda clear sign its a male or am i just daft

minor lava
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The creator of Ben said it’s a girl

icy onyx
lethal glen
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Yes. EyeSeeYou was the individual who took the original screenshot of the dilo that would later be edited into Ben. That dilo was female so Ben be female

robust ether
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Yes.

candid river
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Why did humans leave the islands?

strange shell
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This is the big question
Many people guess the Replicator drove them out to continue its experiments on its own

candid river
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But, how

strange shell
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There's plenty of ways
The most evident one would have been to mass-produce strains to force the humans to run away (or kill them all)
On the more subtle side, it might probably have jammed their communications, disabled their systems and that kind of things

candid river
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humans created the replicator?

sharp knoll
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yes

strange shell
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We don't know
The fact it's a machine hints at the fact humans made it, but I find it unlikely, considering the fact it has a mind of its own, godlike powers, and those things
Someone once supposed it could be some sort of god (or alien, if you prefer) that was waiting for humans to create a vessel for it

candid river
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How do dinos roam around freely on islands? like was they on a containment chamber? contaiment breach? damn soo many questions on my head

sharp knoll
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I mean maybe they create for some purpose but is sill a big question

strange shell
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The Island was most likely designed to let dinos roam freely on it. Hence the bunkers, the choppes to get around, the (almost) absence of roads and fences
There are some walls though, probably meant to keep them in certain areas of the island or limit their interactions (niche partitioning TI_Troll )

candid river
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Do they transfer dinos to islands? orrrr?* TI_sucho

strange shell
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Since there is only one replicator and several islands, I guess they do transfer them somehow.

candid river
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What happens when a dino dies? i saw something on death screen like "pinging location bla bla" "HELLO ANYONE THERE?" "HELP ME"

sharp knoll
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all creatures that replicator created is tracked

strange shell
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It's debated. I, as well as some others, am convinced that their consciousness is transferred to another living being (dino or human), hence the return to the selection screen. Those two sentences also have debated meanings, we may assume it's the replicator trying to communicate with the deceased asset, or the asset itself sending those... or someone (or something) else.

candid river
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SoOO MAnnY queStons

sharp knoll
strange shell
# sharp knoll I remember someone was talking that dinos are humans

It's a subject that is regularly brought up. I think it's the case, because when you read the lore elements we have (in the pins) it all makes much more sense if you assume dinos have human consciousnesses inside of them and they keep being reincarnated when they die.
Also justifies the fact dinos are playable and don't act like actual dinos (even AIs)

candid river
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Guys i found something about death screen can i send it its kinda long i mean not soo long

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ERROR 93- SYSTEM FAULT
Is anyone there?!
Initiate systems diagnostic…
14%...
40%...
77%
99%...
WARNING - SYSTEM COMPROMISED
INIT.firmware update
Please enter clearance code


ERROR - Unable to establish connection to Harvest Base!
Attempting to re-establish linkup in 30 seconds…
HELP ME!
Network Intrusion Detected
INIT SiteTrace.exe
Attempting to verify source…
ERROR: Cannot identify carrier signal, satellite triangulation required
INIT. T.C. satellite-linkup...

strange shell
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I'm pretty sure it's already been posted, and people speculated about the meaning on each of those lines some time ago. I can't remember what they said nor can I tell you what they mean, but once again, there can be a lot of lore info hidden in these if you search right.

candid river
# strange shell I'm pretty sure it's already been posted, and people speculated about the meanin...

Another one,
!WARNING! - System Efficiency @ 15%
!WARNING! - Power Cells Depicted
INIT. T.F. satellite/RemoteTrace.exe
THE END IS NEVER THE END (X5)
Signal source locked @192.168.1.1
Thermal Imaging engaged
Local heat signature identified
Deploying countermeasures
Event log update - asset tracking - L#01-A
Latest Apollo Mainframe Login: 999999 days ago
INIT. remote monitoring task…
CHECK @human presence…
CHECK program running…

"Signal source locked 192.168.1.1" its locks our location? man...

safe ravine
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Idk looks like someone got on the Island and into the system and the system is like nope no you don't

candid river
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theres also a morse code on thenyaw radio tower

strange shell
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I think every morse code has been translated, you should really check the pins if you wanna know more

candid river
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Whats about STRUCTUREs on v3? like buildings near twins lake

strange shell
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Do you have picutres ? We know there's a lot of building variety on those islands... labs, warehouses, garages, living quarters...