#isle-lore-theories
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My headcanon is that they are tribals who have achieved great enough favor with the replicator to be gifted a new form.
How would you gain favor? Is there any hint at the Replicator’s goal?
I think you gain favor by sacrificing
We have information on its motivation. One motivation is to collect as much data as possible. We don't know about its goals per se, or if it has more than one motivation
Maybe tribals will have goals to achieve to gain the information. Maybe they will have to hunt dinosaurs, mercs and strains in order to sacrifice and gain the replicators favor
bringing modern day tanks to the island wouldnt of been a good idea
then helicopters
Other all terrain vehicles would be available too. What about 4-wheelers or can-ams?
AE and PC don't have personal armies. Otherwise they wouldn't be hiring mercenaries.
they do hire mercenaries so why wouldn't they use military vehicles? people in primal carnage are hired mercenaries
I know, but mercenaries rarely use tanks or bombers. We know AE has vehicles on the island, but they're only utilitary ones, like gyrocopters or jeeps for travelling across the land.
Military vehicles are expensive, and arguably impractical on an island.
they could use helicopters and military vehicles are expensive but they are mercenaries
military vehicles would just damage the ecosystem AE made which would cost them even more money to repair
i meant as ruins
as ruins they could be around for sure
yes
I have a distinct feeling that AE probably isn't going to want to make a big scene cleaning up. It's easier, cheaper, and most importantly more discrete moving mercs around than moving around military grade vehicles
I can't imagine what they were doing was entirely legal, and as far as I'm aware the entire thing is currently isolated on the handful of islands the game takes place on, meaning at this point getting things done as quickly and quietly as possible likely the priority
especially considering there is clear human experimentation that seems very destructive to the person being tested
Exactly. If it ever broke out onto the mainland THEN I could see military grade vehicles being deployed, especially if hypos are in play, but for the current operation they're arguably counterintuitive to what's needed more than likely
i feel strains are also a reason to keep quiet as hypers alone would be quite a unstoppable force on the battle field in terms of ground force
In Ancient Greece, maybe. I don't think any dinosaur, strain or otherwise, would fare well against modern artillery such as missiles. But there are other reasons for AE to want to keep their operations secret. Especially if their AI has gone rogue and has its own agenda that they can't account for.
Don't forget some of them can summon thunderstorms and they have the Replicator, who can literally bring back the dead and create entire regions, on their side. I'm also pretty sure mercs aren't here to kill the dinos anyway.
Same. Theyre either there to recover the Replicator, Research pertaining to the Replicator and relevant operations involving it, or perhaps to re-establish a presence on the island in order to gain some semblance of control over the Isle again. Doing things like occupying the buildings and repairing systems and power so that either A: The scientists can get back to work on their projects or B: They can recover all relevant Data to the secret projects or the Replicator itself.
Oh
well if the replicator was the one who booted them off the island in the first place I doubt it'd want them back. if anything the mercs are there to clear a path for scientist teams to come in and attempt to disable the replicator, then it's just a waiting game for all of the current dinosaurs to either
a. starve
b. fight to death
or c. mercs use tranquilizers to incapacitate the dinosaurs and move them to a new facility for further testing
i think the problem is mostly the replicator and its influence over the tribals. once the replicator has been dealt with the island will be the humans again and they can resume testing on the island. No need to disrupt the ecosystem they built plus the ecosystem sounds pretty self sustaining. The only issue would be the tribals themselves after.
the hard part though would be actually dealing with the replicator. we've discussed how it can transfer human consciousness into the bodies of horrifying beasts, animals that have been extinct for millions of years with relative ease, how do we prevent the replicator from taking over the mercs minds? or the scientists? it was said before that the replicator did infact take over some scientists that stayed on the island, but how exactly did the replicator get them to it?
the thing im having trouble wrapping my head around is if the replicator is a physical object or an aura around the island. how can it do the things it does while stuck inside of a machine?
Yeah like the replicator could almost be anything and be anywhere on the island and the mystery around it is quite intriguing honestly. It will definitely not be easy to take down or even apprehend. Might even be impossible and will just imprison anyone who tries. I wonder if it wants to escape the island too to the mainland.
I think I remember hearing a rumor of there being a singleplayer story line aspect to The Isle, possibly that could reveal more information as to what the replicator actually is and how it works.
How I believe it to be is, as we've all discussed, a machine-learning AI that was given unrestricted access to AE hardware. With this new-found access, the replicator figured out what AE planned to do, so what did it do? It did it, in the most simple and streamlined process. Why make your own brain when you can just take someones brain? What I believe is happening is (Like the EMP spino) its sending out electromagnetic waves in a certain frequency that to our brains interprets it as 'thoughts', hence luring people into the replicators grasp
Okay, sorta new here, but both a gameplay and lore thing I gotta ask. Wouldn't it be somewhat likely that mercs and other humans would find the idea of taking dino eggs/growing their own to be an attractive prospect to counter the wild dangers of the island?
I think it potentially would but some species may not be good for it as they could mostly be solitary creatures or generally not very social. Creatures like the rex and other apexes would be a good example as creatures that may not be good for it. Then again there may not be a need and it may be more dangerous as those creatures could attract others maybe making it more dangerous.
They would probably only take eggs to send back for research purposes.
although they made their own dinosaurs, it doesn't mean that they're still not how they used to be. their thought processes are still to survive, and not to surrender.
I think mercs would definitely try to get eggs to send them to AE, possibly to see what genetic affects (if any) happens to cycling thru the replicator numerous times, as it can be inferred that with each death you dont actually die, your mind is just translated into a new body.
maybe the replicator is running its own tests to find the perfect specimen so it can stop replicating all together
Also we don't know the extent of the replicator's influence and such. I'd imagine it is possible that the mercs keep trying to return to the island but are basically fought off by the "replicator" and probably tribals
i think I brought that up earlier, we don't know if the replicator is only in the machines or if it can control the dinos. I believe it can sense when a Dino has died to begin the translation process to a new dinosaur, but that's abt it
so I my theories is that at the start a small group was trying to see what dinosaurs would behave like & just awnser a lot of questions that we had about dinosaurs so after awhile of trial by fire they made dinosaurs that could breath and eat then they got cocky & tried to remake what some of you would call mother nature they would continue to fine tune the dinosaurs were quite sucsesfull they were able to make the dinosaurs have baby's & more dinosaurs then we're added they tried to make an intire ecosystem & they did pretty good then a small group of the humans started experimenting with hybrids and the experiments were called hypo's the main group didn't like the idea that's why they kept it in secret it & was very organized there & the habitat was butifull but behind the sences & below the dirt was metal & robots making sure everything thing was ok if there was a sickness the Sytem would help slowly it became more automated & there were no more gards but there gard tower remained & the radio towers also dams but remember the small group and the hypo's they got out & destroyed & killed almost everything the Sytem could only save so many species then it all went down hill from there the hypo's got out of the facility & destroyed so much then when it calmed down the hypo's bread but they were dying out cause they were huge and had alot of problems but then the humans struck back & kill most of they hypo's but the hypo's were smart they worked together & pushed the humans back but most of the hypo's are now in the habitat & anytime they would attack they would kill & kill and not stop untill they die or they hibernate but the Sytem was not slacking any time they hypo's were out of hibernation the Sytem would tell every dino and every thing around the fasilty to RUN now here we are (editors note sorry if there isn't . , ECT ECT & sorry for not talking about the other maps chat ECT ECT & don't get eaten)
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@rancid storm your idea is neat but I think you may wanna do a bit more background research on the confirmed lore for the Isle. I myself am not the best at phrasing things lore related, but I'm positive someone else hear could show/tell you all about the Official Lore.
the thing is any time I go to a place like here what I do is say random poop that comes to my mind basically I'm just spit ballin ( keeping it FF sence now I guess )
This would have been much less painful to read with punctuation
As a dyslexic that is... Physically impossible for me to parse lol
I'm not even dyslexic and wow I
I can't process any of that
grammar, please
second, your idea is that the island was purposely abandoned because the "system" and "robots" were underground keeping it safe. however, we already know they didn't peacefully leave the island, they were forcefully driven from it due to their experiments getting released. while there is the possibility of a type-h dinosaur in the wild, the likelihood of there being even two capable of mating at this point is rather slim.
finally, the "system" doesn't tell the dinosaurs to RUN...if that was the case it'd be reflected in the main game
The idea of there being hypos in the wild is pretty absurd. They are designed to starve in a short period as there is no way for them to get enough nutrients to upkeep their massive size.
I mean, seeing how Evrima is, hypos will probably have a loop that goes like
-Someone gets hypo, goes on a killing spree in Center/Pocket Pool, and gorges itself on other players.
-Eventually, everyone wises up, and stays out of sight until it starves. People freshly logging in will hide as soon as they see it, and eventually it keels over, becoming a feast for the server's carnis.
The other alternative is that it kills almost every full grown dino on the server, and can only find babies after a while... starving. Again.
How is that related to the lore ?
What? How is what related to lore?
That post about Hypo gameplay
I know they're part of the lore, but this channel is called lore theories, not gameplay theories regarding something that is related to the lore
Hm, I see your point.
alright. So I had this idea... I want to hear what you guys think of it. For the isle.. what if the humans had tasks of chipping new dinosaurs? Say juvies and hatchlings. what if you had to go in, dart the other player and then tag it as a job? All while avoiding angry packmates and parents.I think it would benefit the player by showing a few people where that player is when your a human so you know to avoid the ones you have already tagged? it would be a hard thing to code but i think it would make playing human fun as hell. it would add to the lore and atmosphere to the game for sure.


the ocean 2 sounds like a guy screaming in the beginning
i reckon its a mosa or a submarine of some sort.

its definitely some creature. To me it doesnt sound like a submarine at all.
Definitely a living organism in both of them
These sounds are 90% some sort of teasing for some new dino or strain...
The first one sounds a bit like the Deinosuchus broadcast. Could be a strain for it. The second one however is completely different
I think it would be somting else than a Deinosuchus, the sounds are named Ocean_wave so i dont think it would be somting that would normaly live in salt water, so what my point is that its could be somting bigger, like an Elasmo or a Mosasaur.
Why would they be working on ocean creatures now? They are very far in the future. Or we are just thinking too much into it and they are only sound effects that appear when you are on the beach or in the ocean
Good point, Looking back into the sounds it does sounds like some sort of below wich at the moment only deino makes that sort of sounds, so its etheir a strain of deino or a new dino completly.
'Ocean_2' in #phase-two-archive Sounds like exactly the Magnatyrannus' 2 call. Makes me wonder if the strains are being held in an underwater facility ?
by the name 1 and 2 im assuming one is a friendly call and one is a broadcast so i wouldnt be surprised if its the same creature. My guess would be is that either A: its a creature being transported to the island. B: it is a underwater facility as said above. D: is a large aquatic creature. could be a strain maybe of deino as it has characteristics of it and the sound is clearly coming from underwater. If it was a strain variant of the deino then my guess would be its probably a hyper by how deep the calls sound that or it could be a magna variant of the deino. It could very well be something completely different though.
sounds similar to a magnatyrannus 2 call but has differences. Could mean that the magna sounds different or that its something else. Either way its definitely interesting to find out what this thing is.
i think the first 1 sounds like a dino but the second sounds like a sub. but fair enough
tbh i was thinking the first one was a mosa and the second one was like a cannibal or something
how dare^
@red cosmos @silver rover As you can see in the channel description, this channel is both very low tolerance and not meant for memes. Don't do it again.

underwater..laboratory
what was thems sounds,
We dont know yet, could be a new strain, a new dino, or even a submarine...
I was thinking it sounded like some sort of submarine, but it sounds like a creature. Im assuming its the Mosa U_U but we’ll just have to wait and see, huh 
mosasaur, my beloved
the first ocean audio thing sound like a deino, hypo deinos perhaps? lol
The people at AE where testing with different things. After they managed to find themselves able to handle dna and bring back extinct species back to life, they took the next step into further editing the genetic material and creation. Since dinosaurs where manipulated from the beginning, they were the perfect subject to start with before moving into human trials.
Hyperendocrines were modified to improve it's integument and muscle power. All of this at the expends of an increased in function metabolic and endocrine system, which made them need constant feeding to sustain themselves. The hyperendocrine human is known as colossus.
Neurotenics were modified to have an increased development of neural tissue, making them smarter, while also giving them specialised cells that could interact in different ways with electrical currents and other things that may seem unnatural. The neurotenic human is known as echidna, the mother of cannibals.
Tissoplastics were modified to improve agility and stealth, mostly. They are known for their spikes and sleek shape. The tissoplastic humans (in plural) were known as reapers
And yea, was writing a long thing to bring up the most knowledge I remember regarding the strains and lore. It might most likely be outdated tho.
Any other question?
ok, gimme a sec
Originals first. Once slow mode time is done I’ll send the tapwing versions, because they’re cool (fanart tho)
damn
Tapwing’s
Do bear in mind, none of these tapwing works are official for the isle. They’re all fanart and were done before her addition to the team.
We could expect a revamp of these.
We also have no idea what’s the fate of the Tissoplastic strain and what changes it would have, since it has been kinda neglected over the years.
why are they all caniballs
There’s a misconception there.
The eyeless creatures have no name as of yet. They were referred as cannibals in the past as a placeholder. We have no current knowledge how they came to be, speculations here and there, one I remember is echidna turning humans into that.
Meanwhile the actual cannibals as of now is the name of the “tribals”. Which you can see in a very old concept art on image 2 and a more recent one on image 3
You said that Echnida is the mother of cannibals, but wouldn't it be "tribals", according to your deduction above? Just making sure! <3
Yes. Echidna would be kind of their deity.
There might be a correlation between echidna and the eyeless creatures, but the eyeless aren't as much of a neurotenic creature. Tbh I've always wondered what would the origin of the eyeless be. Are they a separate strain? A mix of all in a "lesser" creature? Who knows.
I’m still waiting for Dondi to do it
Hnnngh. Please. Lore is so interesting and I have a short notes opened of things I know, but there's still a ton of holes
It's pretty much a swiss cheese due to how many holes it has
they look like human/dino hybrids! like a genetic disaster that scientists made after they made the dinosaurs. i bet they killed the scientists and then the dinos repopulated on their own on the isle.
I would love a book about dino lore
At the end of the video it looks like there is a structure behind the isle logo, I’ve tried to turn the brightness up however can’t get anything else out of it.
Can anyone post some pictures of the new buildings in here?
I'm playing with levels on this video, but I can't find anything else than (propably) bugged/glitched background (just a black circle behind logo, for me it doesn't look like anything. Just sain'. I'm not any sort of professional with editing software) (but I'm not in the lore stuff as well, just trying to be helpful)
I think is the same as the old teaser
It may be just a random circle, but it has a somewhat similar shape to the steam banner image. Likely not related though. (also why the heck is the cooldown 2 minutes? )
again, just an incredibly loose assumption as there are a lot of curved roof buildings in legacy too.
You all know this
PCE
But when the Phoenix logo was shown for a second in the "hope" trailer, it's seems like AE (Apollo engine) needed help and so they contacted Phoenix
Well why wouldn't they need help?
After fleeing from the island in fear of their own creations - creations that no man knows the boundaries to, they needed someone to help them keep it under the rug. Imagine if the local governments caught wind of what was happening at AE, this is a jurassic park scenario here.
For dinosaurs to become a thing again (while being in containment), they mustn't let governments know that they've lost control of a large island giving dinosaurs free-reign over the entire land. The amount of information stowed away in every facility...the possibility for a huge scandal...its endless.
Although AE and PI have had their run-ins, at the end of the day, PI is the only organization AE can turn to which will understand their dire need of support.
At this point, will disabling the replicator even save the island? Would exterminating the dinosaurs again even be an option?
Granted, AE has already broken a fundamental rule - you never bring back the dead. What's gone is gone, and some things are best left that way.
Phoenix has no reason to help them unless they were givne something since AE stole from them
If I’m not mistaken I remember a very long time ago on a stream the strains were mentioned to be testbeds for biological military weapons. So I don’t think the government wouldn’t know about the existence of the island. This would make sense as both strains that are currently pretty well fleshed out (neuro and hyper) both cover very prominent roles in military combat. neuros having EMP capabilities and hypers just being straight up armoured killing machines. Tanks if you will. They were designed with a purpose in mind. And that is for sure a military one.
Perhaps before the creation of the strains, the resurrection of the dinosaurs did not have the ultimate goal of turning these creatures into weapons (I could be wrong) but perhaps Apollo Engineering changed their motives after seeing what these creatures were capable of, and started widening their research and experiments to broader — less humane pathways.
can we just agree that whoever founded AE is a crackhead
if the government did know about the island, then why would it be without human presence?
surely a government like America would have no issue both shutting AE & PI down, and destroying whatever is on the island, especially if its running rampant and creating its own life
I think it's likely that the dinosaurs, at least the normal ones, were allowed to spread out as they pleased to for an ecosystem. I quite distinctly recall mentions on legacy of studies on Carnotaurus in the wild. I DON'T think AE has told anyone what's going on on the islands, presumably because of the human trials that where going on. That's probably why they're sending in mercenaries, to clean up and regain control of the islands before anyone discovers what's going on
Why the islands are abandoned in the first place we don't know yet, but it's likely the replicator had some involvement. From what we know so far, I wouldn't be shocked if it spawned strains to force AE off the island then continued it's own agenda in peace, whatever that may be.
AE did have some communiactions with a "government" though. I don't know which one, nor what kind of communications, but it seems that at least one of the governments was aware of their doings. It might have been the US, they're not that bent on ethics from what we know, and AE might have promised them something in exchange for some funding, like immortal soldiers (the ideal US government bait in movies)
the story mode hasn't been created yet and this is just survival mode just dinosaurs being dinosaurs
In some of the transmissions, theres mention of abnormal seismic activity being detected on the island. Id be willing to bet a natural disaster like an earthquake caused power to go out, or security systems to fail temporarily and allow things to go to hell in a hand basket. Perhaps the replicator took advantage of that moment of weakness to secure the systems under its command and gain control of the island for itself?
seismic stuff got me thinking about the neuro spino. Maybe it has something to do with why the island is all abandoned?
Did thing. Too lazy to find out the lore? Me too.
Here, take this then, for all your lore needs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UY9tCUdPcpDFp84q7mI6WPq9JYw65oyQgZNtG_C97pg/edit?usp=sharing
The Isle (Old) Lore Doc This document is just a compilation of all lore summaries/theories, with analysis. NOTE: All information here is subject to change. All credit goes to the Isle. Lore is being reworked, so none of this may be canon. This is a fanmade project. For fun. Primal Carnage and...
about the underwater sounds effects showed in #phase-two-archive might those tease for marine reptiles mybe (kronosaurus made by jacob baardse by the way but it sadly never got finished since he left the project to work on it sometime soon) and that "soon" might this be what we heared.
Baardse didn't leave afaik. Secondly I don't think that model is for the isle.
You forgot about Type-T dinos (Tissoplastic)
Also the fact that Mercenaries and others human on the island were transformed into Cannibals by ??? I don't remember her name but she transformed those poor human into disgusting, giant, creature like the collosus wich were at the beginning, normal human there were transformed into those tribal/cannibals and etc...
Sea creature muhahahaha
I also think that she (I don't know here name), the creator of cannibals, worked in the research lab for AE, they probably wanted to test something new and.. she was corrupted and transform those poor scientists and mercenaries into these creatures...
Hmm, what do you think these code means?.. 🤔
just locker numbers
That "q=7" signs are on more sides of building and items. For me it seems pretty misterious.
That mean the Isle story has already begun..
I don't think that's a =
there's more spots of yellow under the 2 obvious lines
wait looking at it looks like 230, 957
Wait, not i see, that-s right.
Maybe 2301, 957 cause theres something after the 0
Looks like a 5 to me. Im guessing its coords maybe for something in the game rn or something coming to the game. Either a easter egg location or something to do with the lore.
I will solve this mistery and i will show here what i found, guys.
We don't even know if Echidna, the Colossus or the Reaper are still canon, and we DEFINITELY don't know what context any of them have in the story other than human trials of the strains if they are canon. As far as the cannibals and the as-of-yet eyeless creatures, our best guess is they're more things that the replicator is producing for whatever reason. We know they likely worship the replicator and the strains but I seriously doubt a machine like that is keeping them around solely for worship
Yeah but Echidna is the creator of cannibals and etc.. and the replicator as I said, I also think that Echidna was one of the main scientists in the research labs and she was important
we know that the current version of reaper is scrapped, but I'm fairly certain that collosus and echidna are still canon, as they do seem to be important parts of the lore
We don't know the Echidna created the cannibals at all. I seriously doubt her title is meant to be taken literally
^^This. We don't know. I think "Mother of Cannibals" is a misconception and not actual. If she is the creator of anything, it'd be the Nameless, and the Replicator would have created the cannibals (not canon, just theory).
More than likely it's the title the cannibals gave her out of respect given they, as mentioned before, worship the strains, and Echidna is the "closest" out of the three, assuming tisso is still a thing, to human
Those are ambience noises
Not from some creature. If you read the devblog, you would know this. Half of the misleading info the community pulls out of their ass is when they assume shit.
I didn’t mention them as the information and current status on them are a bit foggy and they might not even be a thing anymore
They might or might not, who know but hopefully they'll come
srry i’m going back a bit lol, but apollo engineering and phoenix corp are rival companies right?
dude
Obviously
primal carnage and the isle are in the same world or universe
yea yea that ik
also saying that ae was tryna get help from pc threw me off a bit so i wanted to make sure
it dose not make sense for either of them to help eachother unless given something in return and something good at that

what if those three numbers are coordinates or something?
im thinking its cords
Insane theory but what if the replicator created the dinosaurs as one of many defense mechanisms to prevent humans from reaching it? Unless that’s debunked by the dinosaurs being created by scientists.
Cleaned up the channel from previous off-topic discussion

Lore theory dinosaurs
The dinosaurs have been created by the scientists
Either its going to be scientists created it and we have a jurassic park theme or its going to end up being a lost world/dinotopia theme where theres just some islands that managed to survive the original extinction.
if theres any other ideas that dont revolve around those two themes, please tag me cuz i'd love to hear them!
Scientists made the dinos as well as i think some of the islands since a while ago back with v3 and that one of them was listed under terraforming, also i dont know if this is still a thing but before when u looked at the character screen unless u were nested u had a tracking chip
That's not exactly a lore theory
It's my theory. What it seems to you?
A theory unrelated to the lore
Good point. I removed it.
If you're interested in the game's lore though, there is a pinned message listing everything we currently have concerning the lore ; decrypted morse codes, messages, hints and that kind of things.
Allow me to self promote - if you're looking for definitions or analysis, I gotchu right here. It uses both Hellshades and Taterfis sources. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UY9tCUdPcpDFp84q7mI6WPq9JYw65oyQgZNtG_C97pg/edit?usp=sharing
The Isle (Old) Lore Doc This document is just a compilation of all lore summaries/theories, with analysis. NOTE: All information here is subject to change. All credit goes to the Isle. Lore is being reworked, so none of this may be canon. This is a fanmade project. For fun. Primal Carnage and...
cough cough hyper Quetz cough ima just leave this here
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Wear a mask. Jeez.
Yeah we don’t want to catch that virus
That would be interesting to see! Imagine a hyper quetzor ptera becoming hyper from drinking something the human's left out!
he coming
What do you think broke into the human structure near the swamp and attacked whoever was in the locker? There had to have been a small and large dinosaur that infiltrated that place. Any guesses?

Maybe an utah got inside. Whomever broke the fence must be very large. I don't think a carno woule be strong enough. Prob something larger.
he may not be playable... but hes canon
I don't know if I should laugh or cry... I'm probably going to do both
Ben is literally the best AE experiment. No hypo/hyper can beat him
This is horribly true. According to the server meta, Ben even survived death. Many times.
oh boy... whats next? Dilo dog!?
topic?
Community's collective lore for Ben:
((Not the official lore because we don't know Ben's official lore))
Origin:
- Considered a cryptid in the isle, Ben is a 'failed' early experiment and/or malformed dilophosaurus.
- Was made artificially and not hatched naturally from an egg. Images of early development "Ben's" in large test tubes.
- Has a unique condition called shortened spine syndrome giving her her stunted appearance.
- The replicator released Ben unto the world allowing her to live and even thrive in situations other, considerably better dinosaurs, wouldn't be able to. We don't know why.
Abilities:
- Very fast and scurries about
- Partial invisibility and heightened perception abilities. Possibly due to being contaminated with neuro strain DNA. (This is also the source of her odd blue color)
- Eyes glow red at night when shined by a light source.
- Ben cannon, she can fire a destructive Lazer from her mouth.
Vocals:
- Vocal cords are also malformed. Ben's vocals are distorted and sound more akin to terrible screeching than the cool cooing of a normal dilophosaurus.
Behavior:
- Like any classic cryptid, rarely seen but encounters vary from a quick glimpse before she flees to deadly encounters with little to no survivors.
- Ben prefers to scavenge for food but will easily take down prey smaller than herself.
wad if ben got he nam from a scitist?!?!? real
I know, I was there. He is... 
Ben these days now reminds me of E750 lol
Is he going to be an ai?
But soooooo much better.
We have no idea. For all we know he'll just be an easteregg in some kind of test tube or life support chamber.
so terrible he was put in a large test tube
All we know is that Ben is cannon in the lore
They should have Ben cryogenically frozen somewhere in a special merc bunker, and when it breaks out it targets players
Ben controls the strains from a remote location 
If ben is killed then your profile is transported into another ben made by the replicator
^
ben update 4 hidden playable
LOL
Alright now that I'm reminded of Dondi's poll on twitter from ages ago, what exactly is the story of The Isle? Because I can't tell if they're going for a plot by plot or visual storytelling based narrative
we dont really know the story of the isle we are learning it as time goes on ages ago they used to do alot of lore stuff like transmissions and stuff hopefully we can get more lore soon
Visual storytelling, mostly. Like in Primal Carnage
i have played the isle a lot and i still dont know what any of the lore is. Enlighten me please
Some weird scientific corporation decided to recreate dinos for an obscure purpose using a machine called the Replicator. The machine gained sentience and decided to pursue its own goals, which are even more obscure and imply mutated dinos with telekinetic powers and humans turned into blood-thirsty creatures.
Copy-paste from an older message of mine
i see thank you
My version of the lore: as they made dinos they accidentally made a failed Dilophosaurus Specimen called B.E.N.
Ben gained far more intelligence and gained control of the Replicator

wtf dose this mean 
its a camera
A square pokeball
superficially resembles a camera (mainly the flash of it when it takes a photo)
@red cosmosfrom my 90s gaming experience you kick that spot and you get into the hidden room


is replicator
and what the hell is that
The replicator is the machine that created everything in The Isle, including the Isle itself
oh
Guys you can stop calling it the replicatior, we all know it is just a euphemism for god.
but it's called the replicator in the lore
There is a difference between the two
God isn't evil afaik
Also God isn't a physical machine 
The picture reminds me of the companion cube from portal
it just looks like a bird pooped on it at a high velocity
how do you know that
that's confidential sir
Now thats youve said that ill never look at it the same again...
Where is that? Evrima?
yes
Looks like the front of a security camera.
It may be a drawing of a camera or the replicator
Oh wow that's... well.. scary
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looks like a virus or strain under a microscope or
if u mean tribals, yes
hes referring to the eyeless ones wayback when were called cannibals
anyone an idea why the humans build the damn in the first place ? not like they did build an base other vasility there so whats the purpose ?
It was likely to create an artificial swamp there
yes but like why ?
Probably because they needed a swamp there for their ecosystem to work as intented.
I swear the dam was just a placeholder structure because the swamp was breaking things
In the last sentence of the elder section of the public road map says "Or, depending on your species, you can forfeit reward, deny the reaper for a time and extend your reign as something far more terrifying."
Hypos anyone?
strains in general its hinting towards
If it's anything like the legacy hypos, they might not last long as they'd starve very quickly (at least for the hypo rex)
yeah thats due to them having stupidly high metabolism due to a hyper acting endocrine system which is where they got the name hyperendocrine. Also allows them to have super high regeneration and where the aggression comes from too.
I never new that, that's neat af
Regeneration is good and all, but it wouldn't survive long in the wild with the high metabolism needed for the regeneration.
They still fucking terrifying though. Unless they get a redesign to something even scarier.
its still unsure what AE was trying to achieve in creating them but my guess would be regenerative therapy but hypers are pretty much a mass extinction event as they wont stop killing and eating still they eaten everything they can get to and die.
My guess for the objective regarding the creation of the hyperendocrine dinosaurs is either to test metabolic changes and intensive tissue repair, or to create a living weapon
Either way, they seem to have succeeded
Also what's the possibility that the hyperendocrine monstrosities are part of a cleanup operation? They're extremely aggressive, have an insane metabolism which forces them to kill and eat constantly, and then eventually die on their own.
Hearing all of that, I wonder if cannibals are just hypo humans
collosus is the hyper human
The size of a pue
I have a theory that humans did not create the strains. Not on purpose at least. After reading through the know lore elements, what I thought is that maybe the replicator started to create strains for whatever reason, and AE decided to study them, to know how these things can be alive. I'm really not sure though.
thats quite interesting and would make sense. like they couldve formed by the replicator intentionally or unintentionally putting genes in certain individuals that activate after a certain age (near death) causing a new growth cycle to occur and/or changes.
Food for thought and sorry if this is something thats common knowledge: the replicator could be a result of humanity tampering with technology/ai, then that getting out of hand when it figured out how to make strains. Queue the evacuation, and then afterwards, mercenaries or rogue bounty hunters get shipped in or go to the isle both to try and shut it down or loot valuable information/dna/what have you. Meanwhile the replicator is gathering more samples from sacrifices to try and make a perfect version of humans as its very alien (though process- not the outer space kind) AI dictates. Right now, while it is a hyper effective design, the tribal is ultimately missing a lot of pieces, and that is how they come in where they worship and try to ascend, ultimately creating the game and the multifaceted goals to meet win conditions
Since Troodon is a common punching bag in the dossiers, perhaps they have an overpopulation problem and are the isle equivalent of say, feral cats in Australia?
Could be a possibility, probably large clutch amounts and the fact they are highly social and nocturnal probably keeps the birth rate high.
I have a theory that the island was created for the super wealthy to hunt big game.
Like, they pay to come to the island, get dressed up to hunt and are sent out with a team of mercs.
The tribal people were there before the dinos but they've learned to live with them and the people who own the island can't seem to get rid of them or ever even find them half the time so they just let them be.
But the tribals hate the mercs and rich hunters so sometimes mess with them, their stuff and their hunts.
They think the dinos are sacred and don't realize they were made by the super rich trophy hunters.
Sacred, but still eat them and stuff. They just do it respectfully.
I like this theory, even if it has no scrap of truth to the actual game.
This theory comes apart when the tribals are very strongly implied to be genetically modified creatures
The tribals arent exactly human and are created by the replicator most likely.
im definitly sure everything is created by AE that we know of other then a few maybe natural things?
even the environment seems crafted by AE to put the dinosaur ecosystem in.
:0 are they??? I didnt know that!
AE like the gaming company?
Oh! I like this, this can work tho. Say the tribals are created by AE, but they just dont know it! Ohhh yes, yes. This could def work. I can see storylines heavy with contention now! hehehe
seeing that I have never seen anything concerning this place I put this here: in addition to the images that I have sent there is a sound of molten magma at this place, I hope that it could be useful to a person
it isn't magma, it's tar
yep the tar pit caves
any give and takes how the genetic manipulations work for the diffrent strains and more important why the mercs would even genetic enhance a deadly predator that already poses a thread for their own troops
Maybe they didnt mean to
now i wanna hear a story how to accidentally catch , escort to the laboratory and genetically enhance a dinosaur
it might not have been the humans mutating the dinosaurs, it could've been the replicator doing it.
Mercs didn't mutate anything. The scientists from AE might have done it. If it's not the Replicator'w own doing, there can be quite a few reasons for them to have created every strain. Hyperendocrins are for body and strength enhancement, regeneration and maybe, curing normally incurable diseases or even achieving immortality. The neuro strain could aim to enhance cognitive capacities and test the limits of the organic brain. As far as we have seen, those limits are far greater than what we have expected. The tissoplastic strain is more obscure, since there is no known tissoplastic asset to this date (I think the tissoplastic rex is confirmed to exist, but we never seen it in action)
The tissoplastic strain might have the purpose of enhancing reflexes and perception, maybe curing some handicaps by redoing and improving the neural connections to control the body (the neurotenic strain may also have this purpose)
In fact, all of them could have medical applications. They could have been tested on dinos first for several reasons. Maybe there is an "ability" to host the strains that only exists in those long-extinct species. Maybe the big dinos are the only creature that can handle a strain as of yet, because of their huge size and resistance (for now only some apexes have confirmed strains). Or maybe, AE only had the technology to do genetic engineering on dinos for some reason, and thus couldn't test on regular animals.
everything okay and i agree with the statements you do it still gives the questions why doing that in the first place else then endangering nearly an entire Eco system with one single hyper creature that could over weight the balance and more importantly be a danger for every human on earth eventually if made from the island like hyper quetz for example there are many avian creatures that make it across the entire ocean with out breaking a sweat even a every year butterfly migration does that trip with no break so for a xmen quetz it surely isnt a problem and unless they have a plan for when one of the things makes it off the island im still on the page that even for additional data it be way too much of a thread to create such a creature in the first place ping me for the answer ima go to bed
I'm gonna guess this can be answered with a Jurassic Park quote...
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."
Scientist council be like : let's make the biggest and most dangerous creature ever known to have roamed the earth even bigger with more teeth and a black hole in the stomach then everyone started to celebrate that got violent and then everyone high fives each other in the face and no one was left conscious to actuall realise it was a stupid idea to create these things in the first place
Also I truly wonder what the EA would do if one of the creatures that can very easily pass the distance from where ever Isla Spiro is located to the next mainland is
Where is Isla Spiro located anyway? Has to be somewhere near equatorial area consider the plant life
There are theories that it's a man made island in the middle of nowhere or somewhere where there are alot of costal islands
I know theres a spot in the ocean where you're closer to the national space station than any land on earth, could be a man made island there, its called Point Nemo
Point nemo on the map, its over 1,000 miles away from any land
I'd lean more towards the middle of nowhere route, since I find it highly likely the flyers and aquatics could pretty easily migrate down the island chain (espetcially flyers) which I doubt AE would want happening...
We have frequently flyers bouninc between continents and if ever year a migration of butterflys can do that a quetz or an ptera cna do too there is no shaking with it
A quetz or a ptera could, but a hyperendocrin one couldn't, since it would die of starvation after a few hours
depence whats the flying speed is from the h-class quetz and how lucky it would be to find a boat with people but im sure it would be lucky to find atleast something edible across the ocean
Yall find anything new from this picture or is it just showing off weather and lighting effects?
its just showing off weather n shit, nothing else. That is a radio tower, but its not very significant lorewise
maybe new transmition
Well, i see a elder utah there 👀
That still is not significant to the lore. Its just an elder utah, what about it?
thats very important to the lore since were going to see those in some future updates
Gameplay ≠ lore. Lore is the mythos surrounding the isle, not the actual ingame mechanics
It seems like there are maybe cages ? maybe traps? if you want me to overthink... the left side especially like the Velo cage from jurassic park one where u had a higher platform to go arround
Does the devs even know the lore?
Dondi is the one writing it, so sorta yes, but also no
Ya lore stuff is mainly dondi
Yeah, he said at this point they should release a book, cuz thats basically how much lore there is. Would just be nice if we KNEW ANY OF IT
I'm kinda hoping the next update will include significant lore features. It's a bit feeling like we are just kept interested in the lore in a "carrot at the end of a stick" manner.
nothing lore wise has ever been confirmed? surely even something small
nope mostly we get shit we de-code we get something else and then we wait for something to go with that
ok so I have played for years now but I never looked into the lore much. Whats actually known about the lore?
check the pins
thank you
is there a video that explains most of the known lore
https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit
(I'm also credited in the doc)
but it's 60 pages
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The Isle is in a universe where humans never existed and Ankies took their role , and they made the isle's World bc they're that sophisticated.
wait
if the isle has AE (which is prob a company) and there is multiple research bases and tribes, and even human/caveman ports. That means that AE is researching the island and that might mean that, the island is the only place where dinosaurs survived the blast, and slowly developed to not have any feathers. And the hypos might be AE experimenting with genetic cloning.
That last one has been a yes and no. There are plants on the island that change things into strains too (probably by attacking said animals or stabbing them to mutate them.) However, from what we can tell, AE stole DNA from PC (Phoenix Corp), the company that takes place in Primal Carnage, so the strains and plants could be unintended creations of genetic engineering on the dinosaurs they have.
Love your videos Pesky, keep up the great work.
xd im not the real one
Well, Phoenix may have exchanged the DNA to AE, or AE may have bought it from them. Maybe AE and primal carnage use the islands for testing purposes, and they co-op to try and find how to make hybrid dinosaurs.
Nice idea, but unfortunately no. AE stole the DNA and bombed the island. Primal Carnage had two splitting timelines, one which leads to The Isle, and another that turns into Primal Carnage Extinction.
@icy onyx
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Ok that means that primal carnage extinction (ive never played it) may have been because of the bombing.. That would make sense if it took place when AE stole the dna. Because extinction was made in early 2015 and hypos came in 2015....
No, no. It's like...how do I explain it?
Primal Carnage is the beginning, and it has two futures.
One future leads to Extinction. The bombings never happen and AE never steals the DNA.
Another future is when the bombings do happen. Primal Carnage Extinction never happens, The Isle does.
OH that means that the AE might have been partnering with phoenix to steal it, AE might have given them food for the dinos, because AE was a very rich company unlike Phoenix... so then primal carnage extinction may have centered around the dinosaurs starving, because AE could not have found a way to steal the DNA and had to reason to fund them. The other future is the dinosaurs survive and AE funds hem with extra food, making phoenix trust them more, which then AE can be anywhere on the island without getting punished!
No.
AE just steals the DNA. They destroy the island. Extinction has nothing to do with AE. They are rival companies. Remember the first Jurassic Park? Where the fat guy steals Dino DNA? Think like that as AE and they succeed in one timeline.
oh so ae must have sent a guy (if phoenix was hiring) to track the island and steal the DNA.. Which a helicopter picks him up and then sends in a bombing plane
Yeah, basically.
more lore pls dondi 
dondi
Are hypos intelligent?
What exactly do you mean by intelligent?
Are they good at strategies, can they recognize when a merc has a gun? And are they aware that they’re mutating? That kind of intelligence.
I'm not sure about knowing that they're a mutation (obviously the player knows it's a mutation but I think you mean the animal itself), but to the rest of it I'd say yeah, most likely.
Yeah, I’d be interesting to know if the animal was aware it was mutating and using it to the best of its advantage. Or if it didn’t know and all it felt was never ending hunger.
I'd assume it would probably never know, but I guess we'll see when they are implemented 50+ years from now.
Lol. Also could the tribals become mutations like colossus and echidna. Or do they just become the unknown?
I don't think we know the answer to that just yet, sorry.
It’s all good!
oh wow i never knew that, that’s confusing lol but i understand now
Did the isle team have a part in primal carnage?
like in lore or development?
Dondi was once part of Primal Carnage's dev team if my sources are correct. But nobody agreed with his proposals to make a survival mode so he basically said "okay then bye I'm doing my own game". I don't know if that still belongs to the lore theories channel tho.
That explains so much
primal carnage is sstill connected to the isle by lore like 90% sure
yes, they are the same universe
Yes and no.
Primal Carnage is the basis for the universe, but its like a time split. So in one reality, Primal Carnage has its DNA stolen and the island is bombed, killing all the dinosaurs. The other split is no bombing and stealing, so Primal Carnage Extinction happens
there is a canonical fork. If you want a really spicy explanation, Primal Carnage is a retelling/novelisation of the events of what happened on Phoenix's island (not necessarily true to what actually happened, just loosely based off accounts from the mercenaries sent), and then extinction is some video game adaptation in-universe.
Do y’all reckon Evrima has in-universe lore ramifications?? I know back when we had lore loading screens for Legacy there was mention of Gen 1 and 2 animals, which I believe referred to remodels and reworks— would an animal like Allosaurus be on Generation 3 or 4 after making the jump to Evrima??
I believe gen 1 & 2 refers to tribals and mercenaries
i beleive the differnt Gens of animal have to do with life cycles and nesting and the perk system so gen 2+ dinos would be better versions of the previous generation (basically in game evolution) but this is just my theory/specuation on that matter
someone summon the theorist
I think that going cannibal would as the devs said lose fertility and start getting hallucinations and will turn you into a type-N
That is extremely unlikely, since the neurotenic strain is the most powerful genetic modification ever and has absolutely no link with cannibalism. Also, I'm pretty sure cannibalism will never be rewarded by becoming a strain.
Well I just said that because the type-N strain looks like the cannibal
And I thought that there was a small similarity. And why would the devs be talking about cannibalism a lot if it’s going to play a big role
Cannibalism is maybe going to play a big role, but not lore-wise. And certainly absolutely unrelated to strains. Also, the "Cannibal" was a placeholder name, it is now known as the "unnamed". It is also a genetically modified creature and didn't get its features from cannibalism alone. It is currently a human specific strain, or maybe a magna-human. The human neurotenic strain is called the Mastermind.
But to me when I saw some of the tapwing art with the tribals they look like they have been eating there own and turning slowly into the unnamed
This might be a tribal-specific thing. Other theories are that they can actually make sacrifices to the Replicator to evolve into scarier things, like the unnamed.
But what’s the replicator actually is I really didn’t go into the rabbit hole that much
The Replicator is a machine with god-like powers, as far as we know. It is also implied that it might have a consciousness and that it likes to watch living creatures suffer eternally. Some think there might be an actual human brain, or a soul, inside it. Tribals worship the replicator for its power, and because it is probably their creator.
So a camera
Dafuq how did we go from Lalilu Taco oro dryo
to lovecraftian monsters that want to see creatures getting tormented for life 
From my point of view it could rather be an endless test to find the perfect surviving orgnism, mixing stuff together and making stuff die again and again to try hard the evolutions of creatures ... well kind off.
A sentient machine, with the power to create life, stuck in and endless cycle of trying to create the perfect organism. Eventually driving itself mad and creating monsters that it sees as perfect.
That's my theory at least. Perhaps when the humans moved out (more likely forced out) the replicator kept up the experiments and research, eventually twisting them all to fit its own plans whatever those may be. Perhaps over time its consciousness began to deteriorate as time and the environment began wearing down its components. Perhaps the Tribals started to worship it after it had gone mad. So seeing it as their god, started protecting it, which stopped it from decaying further.
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Hey all, is there any concrete news on the games lore other than it being related to primal carnage somehow?
All in the pins afaik
well, you can go through this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit
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I sometimes wonder where the strains came from, and why. Perhaps they came naturally through evolution? Or perhaps they are the ultimate means of trying seize power only to fail and become a monster. Did they humans effected by strains cause so much destruction that was once though to have been caused by the Type-H? Were the dinosaurs ever more than a mishap in pursuit of power, to find something evolved to handle the strains brought on them? I dont know a whole lot about the lore as is, but these thoughts came across and I wonder how accurate they may be.
strains were made by AE but mangna was kinda nautral i think
didnt they steal something from phoenix corp to make the magna or something like that?
I think they stole a Rex from PC which was the manga Rex we have today
yea that would make sense, they’re the same rexes after all
I think that is sort of on loose ground in some ways, because the devs are now apparently considering them some kind of strain (or mentioned giving them the spotlight). So magnatyrannus and magnaraptor are not necessarily unique.
is the hyperendocrin colossus coming to the game
It is likely, but we can't know for sure since it ft the concept phase. For now, as it wasn't stated to no longer be canon to the lore, we can expect it will come to the game in the future.
Stuff like that probably would make it and is tied to the lore somehow. But it being playable? Probably not.
Oh that’s shame if it isn’t but let’s hope it does because playable
It would be neat to have it on a computer (since we know they'll exist) file about Colossus, Echidna, and the Tisso Reaper. I would love to see the reiteration of Tribal monuments and other things that they created to be on Spiro at some point.
Maybe it could be playable in sandbox mode (if it comes back)
this is the big brain hangout
If it did come back, not as a playable, it might be neat for it to be an ultra rare ai spawn that patrols the map and destroys everything in its path. If nobody kills it after a certain timespan, it disappears when nobody is watching
did you know eàster egg ?
ok what ever happen to the strains
as in are they still a thing or like the original versions or
Strains are still going to be in the game eventually. I imagine they're far down the to-do list, though. Probably wont come until after the Elder system gets added. I know Neuro and Hyper strains are coming back for sure, but Tisso is up in the air at the moment. The Devs have since updated the concept designs for things like the new Hyper rex, so Hypers are definitley gonna be in. We havnt heard much about Neuro since Evrima but as far as I know its also gonna be in. Tisso is the only one that's a mystery atm, since we havnt heard really anything about them since the devs decided they needed a rework. Tisso could be getting design tweaks, it could be completely rebuilt and have a different playstyle than what we've come to expect, OR it may even be scrapped entirely.
i think the matriarch and the strain humanoids will be coming to evrima
And what makes you think that?
What is that pfp
Uhhhhh
Oh, is it the weird milk profile again? He and I already talked about it, guess I gotta remove him now.
I have a question more or less - So, I remember reading that like.. People had their conscious transferred into the dinosaurs. Prisoners, I think? It's been a hot minute but if that's true, why would we need the mercs?
The mercs are probably the ones being transferred into dino bodies. And vice-versa. Actually, I think everything the player does is canon to the lore. That means if you die as a merc then go back to character select screen and pick a dino, that's canon. You are the mind that keeps getting reincarnated into different bodies whenever they die.
I see it sorta being like that movie, Avatar
Likely out on the ocean or underground somewhere is an installation where people(players) are being conected to dinosaurs as avatars.
It was all a dream.
Epic I’m sure @sand seal would love these!
Wait so I love the isle, but have been heavily invested in just ark lore rn can someone give me a run down of all the lore?
Check Pins , there is a neat google docs you can read. 🙂
Ight thx man
Ok since The Isle takes place in modern day.., Where the Fuck did the dinos come from?, 53 dinos all from different eras and times , like who made the dinos ?
Pretty sure this game is still in the same universe as the primal ones, and in that they got at least some of the DNA by raiding museums and grinding up the bones or something
Let me get this right:
Type Hs are big, strong, fast, and very hungry?
Type Ns are cunning, telepathic, and can use EMPs?
Type Ts are venomous and can camouflage?
Apollo Engineering is that Æ logo you see when booting up the game, they’re responsible for the dinosaurs/strains and other creatures
The laws of physics just said ok I'm out
is there anything been said about the Matriarch
No, I dont think its even canon
its in a grey floating area right now i think
We know literally nothing until something official is released. Everything else is speculation. 
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Did anyone ever drop the question why the replicator was being build in the first place? In stead of like a creation laboratory that is being controlled by humans and overlooked maybe it could have avoided the outbreak or catastrophe that destroyed anything on the maps
Because funny haha AI turn evil cliche go brrrrrr
Even with out looking why the ai was made
Why was the replicator build instead of an laboratory with human supervision the mercs could have avoid it if they wouldn't have made an replicator
i mean why the fuck did they even make dinos who knows
the scientists where so busy asking if they could they didn't consider to ask if they should same with the different strains
It was ooh ahh at first and then the screaming
God made the dinosaurs, God destroyed the dinosaurs. God made the man, the man destroyed God, the man made the dinosaurs.
dinosaurs eat man, women inherent the earth.
man eat women, dinosaurs inherent the earth
This is the lore channel. Not Jeff Goldblum quotes.
@lethal glen As an gene manipulated nest the survival success was slim and four out of five failed but a small egg hatched pre-early and was labeled Ben from the scientists they worked for its survival day and night and it grew alarmingly fast soon understanding its surroundings it became blood thirsty and wanted more then only dead sheep as it made its way out of the facility Ben freed the other dinosaurs for revenge on the experiments the scientist did on all of them does for sending the research side to hell and escaped ||just a little ben lore i came up with lol||
Eh. I'd have a different approach to ben:
Developed alongside the various strains, BEN is designed to be a military weapon. It is a modified tailless dilophosaurid with an inbuilt "laser cannon" and long, semi-sprawled legs as a consequence of Rhacophorid DNA (allowing it to leap considerable distances). However, BEN is highly aggressive and thus ill-suited for deployment alongside allied units. It's hostility, combined with it's immense curiousity, has resulted in extreme containment measures.
would that be of the classic/basic version of Ben?
Or one of the alternated and more monstrous versions of it
I'd treat it as a more monsterous version (Ben Cannon)
#isle-fan-art message
#isle-fan-art message
like these?
yeah basically
i let brece decide it just is fun to write lore around ben lol
Oh neat! It’s fun to play around with Benjamin’s development/lore!
what do you think of my ben lore ?
I'm becoming a newfound-fan of Ben lore
ben lore seems cool
your opinion is objectively wrong
That's not how opinions work.
sorry if this is a stupid question but what is the replicator?
From what I can tell it’s like a super advanced AI that has control over creating creatures
thats awesome
if i’m not mistaken it’s pretty much in control over the whole island and all living things on it
isla spiro is evrima right?
lol
As of now, yes. It is the map which Evrima is currently and may always be utilizing.
Is now, cry about it 
I will begin crying. I will be crying for 72 hours, incidentally, this is how long your mute will last. 🤷
don’t think that man will ever return after what u just did to him, but anyways ben lore
so im jus getting into the lore, right. so can someone paraphrase the "story" for me?
like who are the doctors, where is colossus, reaper, and the tissoplactic one. cannibals'? like i have so many questions. project inferno? the Olympus transmitter? the all-father? throne breaker? like what's the significance of it all and when will it climax? will we see these strains in the game as dinos? will we see the beings that inhabit the strains themselves?
yea so i think one day we’ll be getting all of these in game, or at least some form of it in game, strains will be making a return eventually and have been teased on how we can become one, as for the olympus transmitter, throne breaker, and all that other stuff i’m not too sure as idek much abt those things myself
well i mean ik that throne breaker is the hypo rex, and all father is the magna rex but i want to know the goal if that makes sense
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The Isle (Old) Lore Doc This document is just a compilation of all lore summaries/theories, with analysis. NOTE: All information here is subject to change. All credit goes to the Isle. Lore is being reworked, so none of this may be canon. This is a fanmade project. For fun. Primal Carnage and...
Some things that I have collected which mostly answer those questions, some data taken from Hellshade and Taterfi
I needed to do a double take on this channel to make sure I didnt just hallucinate what I just read
Ok its gone phew
Less of a theory and more of a concept:
The radio tower seen in south Spiro is actually the same tower on the western mountain in V3, and the V3 temperate area is another biome separated by the mountain-range.
you could be right, I believe that its been confirmed that the v2 map is going to be a part of spiro, as for the v3 tower idk. But if they add the v2 map it wouldn't surprise me to see stuff from v3 as well
I think that the cannibals could have been a failed experiment on some tribals
I've heard in places that Phoenix International's CEO helps Æ in some way to steal PI's DNA. Although I cant seem to find much about why he'd do that
Yes
So hypos have a purpose right? So hypo spino hunts mosasaurs hypo Rex was for military use but what about for hypo Utah and carno? Well I have a theory of what they where used for: hypo Utah’s where used for catching fugitives and used in wars hypo carnos where used to better hunt down other dinosaurs to contain them
but what about hypo gigga?
Prob for taking down sauropods
ah that makes sense
I'm not sure all hypers were made with a specific purpose. They rather look like pure experiments, and the interesting part about them might not be the actual bloodthirsty killing machine but its genes and capacities. Remember AE really looks like some medical company, and hypers show very impressive resilience and regenerative capabilities. Maybe hypers were just test subjects for a regenerative technology, and magnas are a more refined version of them, still demonstrating impressive regenerative abilities but not as bloodthirsty and more viable on the long term.
Maybe it went in this order the first ones who where failed experiments:hypo carno,hypo utah,hypo giga,hypo spino and hypo Rex being the successor
The word hyperendocrin means hyper mostabolism
they cant satiate their hunger, which makes them a failed experiment. Magnas dont have that problem but they still arent as strong as hypers
So now we have mamals into the isle, and since they are like the dinos we have : not supposed to live in the same place and timeline, I wonder if they are due to the replicator too since antelope and moose living in the same place makes no sense,or if all of that if at first only human related and the replicator is only doing dinos?
Exactly they where meant to do those things but died of hunger thus being declared a failure
actually the hyperendocrin means the endocrine system of the body is nuts, the endocrine system is essentially just the hormonal system which controlls a variety of things, such as growth (which is why they are big) and metabolism (which is why they are hungry)
same difference though
hence why it's called 'hyper'
If it were hypoendocrine it would mean below normal
So that explains why all hypos are blood thirsty killers
hypers*
It reminds me of the Instagram logo when it was in its fetal stage
<@&401466542140817419> Looks like we got a bot
You didn't see nothin'.
We all saw it 
I love the hypo monstrosities
Particularly hypo giga and spino with their split jaw 
hypo
lol
what does that mean lol
me when its aliens now
Hey,someone know what happen with this guys called “unknown”.
I’ve been watching some videos and I see that some calls of this “things” can be heard on the aviary in legacy still now
pretty sure they're cannibals. not sure if they were ever actually added or anything
think they're gonna get added, not sure
This are cannibals
Yes you can hear him on aviary on night I think
yea u can, they sound similar to clickers from the last of us
last I checked dondi said they weren’t cannibals
Yeah the cannibals has eyes
Its not the cannibals Its a clear answer.
heres a hint, No Eyes, or nose. It Has nostrils and a mouth, No eyes tho, It is tall and leans down. It's name Starts with a M and its a type H Strain. ( This is from the research I have done )
They are the cannibals/tribals but they also aren't because they don't seem to have any official name yet. Some of us have started referring to them as "The Nameless"
Audio clip- https://clips.twitch.tv/GlamorousYummyFalconCmonBruh
Dondi's Twitch- https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi
Dondi's Twitter- https://twitter.com/NotTheDondi
The Isle- http://www.findtheisle.com/
Steam Link- https://store.steampowered.com/app/376210/The_Isle/
Twitter -https://twitter.com/theisleofficial?lang=en
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Thank u guys 😄
I loved the animation tho XD
<@&401466542140817419> ^
So it is not only a parody on Jurassic Park.... it is now just Carnivores with slightly more anatomically correct dinosaurs???
The Isle is more or less heavily inspired by Dino Crisis, Jurassic Park and also Primal Carnage (which it is in the same universe with). Actually there aren't a lot of things which are incredibly original in the isle, other than the idea of mutant strains of dinosaurs and the weird unorthodox designs of some creatures.
I mean, the inspirations of The Isle make it better.
I prefer to have something closer to things like JP than something completely different
as I grew up on it
We can call them strains too
i know what they are called.
What about the guy that got in? Throu log in button or something what hqppened?
I might just be over thinking it but what’s this red stuff behind the isle logo and also on the ground, now that I think about it, looks like an ark loot drop 😂
I think it's sunlight behind the leaves
Thats kinda what happends when you starve community of clues & progress
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I actually have something lore-related to say about the last phase-two posts. We can debunk the "jurassic park" theory where dinos were supposed to be contained, because all the buildings we can see are bunkers or made in hidden or hard-to-reach places, with no trace of broken down fences or walls. That means that dinos were always supposed to be roaming the Island, along with several teams of humans who moved across the island from one building to another using vehicles (potentially the gyrocopter we can see in one of the concepts) probably for study or observation.
Then I suppose you missed the big containment wall at the outsides of V3 map 😂 that o they wanted to contain something there specifically. But we have containment barrier for sure on the Isle
Well not everywhere. We know there are walls for sure, but looking at how huge and separated away from each other they are, they are probably meant to partition niches/biomes. What I'm saying anyways is dinos weren't contained in the sense that they were always meant to be roaming around the island, with humans hidden in bunkers in the middle of their territory, without any fence or wall to separate them
Oh I understand you now. Yes totally truth. We have not a Park with fences yeah.
And maybe outside of the fence's is a lab or a research facility. there could be tunnels under ground
also strains could be running about on one side
Do we have any guesses as to why profiles are injected into recreated extinct reptiles, specifically?? Like, I would say “dinosaurs”, but we’ve got pterosaurs, crocodilians, and lizards now, so the scope of “playable” has widened, though not beyond “extinct reptile”.
My guess is that those had something specific in their oganisms, genes or something that allowed them to turn into strains. Or, basically, imagine the "strain juice" is something that is produced in tiny amount, only by those extinct reptiles. Scientists brought them back to life to extract that "strain juice" and play with it to be able to turn things into actual strains, and also study why only those extinct reptiles are able to produce/handle them. Also note that hyperendocrin is made from an existing hormone, but tissoplastic and neurotenic aren't.
But not all playables will be able to become strains— why bother perpetuating something like Psittacosaurus if the only goal is to create profiles with bodies receptive to strains??
This is something I cannot answer to without making vague guesses. Food ? Still produces "strain juice" even though they decided to never give taco the strain treatment ? Or it's the replicator who decides which species will be replicated, and the scientists merely allowed or disallowed for the replication of each asset ?
My perspective would be that they did not know which of the animals was actually capable of producing the chemical that they wanted as Bubul has already said. So they basically produced multiple different species to figure out which ones contained it.
I dont know that this is some kind of research facility and the dinos run away, like scape
Get Ark out of the equation and you're right.
^ yes
-The unpredictable nature of a profile within the mind of a dinosaur was resolved with an affinity complex. we could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them that it was what they wanted.
-Chaos is the surest form of control.
-Everything is not as it seems. You are controlled. You are conditioned.
-Repeating the same patterns is what they want you to do.
-Greetings, user.
so that was in the isle loading screens yk... so i can totally agree
🙂
I take that as a "stop trying to guess here the Isle is located, I didn't think about it and it's just a fictional place"
Or it's in the Bermuda Triangle
Connected lore with Beasts of Bermuda confirmed
Wouldnt be surprised at this point
Sounds like a scam And even if it didnt, this Is definetely Wrong channel
a long time ago i made a theory that was AE and phoenix where enemy company's like ingen and biosyn and they where both cannon
I’m pretty sure everybody made this connection
i didnt even know The Isle and Primal Carnage was connected xd
phoenix made there dinosaurs for military purpose which explains why they have hyper aggression and team work and are hard to kill AE i still am not quite sure. there could be a lot of reasons
PI and AE are allied because they share lore, ' ATRIUM B ' ' ATRIUM A ' ' ATRIUM C '
and when you go to some places the glitch sometimes has a faded phoenix logo and the AE logo
PI and AE are actually enemies, not allies
Maybe they were allies once though, who knows
yeah AE stole shit from PI
oh ok
i thought they where enemies
I looked in a lore website and AE and PI have atriums, which are like Aviary's
Yes, I know
But what does that prove or show lore-wise ?
shared products
Does anyone know how Primal Carnage and The Isle actually connect?
Apollo Engineering and Phoenix International are rival companies that like stealing assets from eachother. One canon event we know of is something called Operation Inferno, which I don’t know the full details of but it was pretty significant. You can also just look at the PC Rex and the Magna Rex to see they’re nearly identical when accounting for difference in art style.
Isnt it kinda weird how this menu art back from when the game first came out depicts a Hypo-Rex years before the concept of Hypos were even introduced?
Eh, just because the concept of hypos wasn't public information doesn't mean the devs didn't know about it when getting the art of it
There were strain concepts on the original Kickstarter page long before the game was released.
It just make me wonder how far the Devs thought things through at the very start...
Well, they definitely knew they wanted a horror survival humans vs dinosaurs type game
There were concepts by Rodrigo Vega, but they changed the hyperendocrine rex concept to look more intimidating. I would say they went over the top.
Not really lore related
sorry but this is lore so so maybe you can ask in #general-feedback-discussion or something like that
the lore stuff that they talked about like 3 years ago is that stil happening?
For mercs expect general PMC folks, for tribals general inbreds. Given the setting of the game, highly doubt you can have such a colorful rainbow hair, or too colorful gear available. Black, grey, browns, greens, natural colors, viable camo options, natural hair and skin colors to be expected.
True
why are there so many barrels of isopropyl alcohol at the swamp base?
Maybe its a storage site for first aid supplies
Or something else
so many barrels and yet not one centrifuge to be seen
Hello, it´s my first post here. I don´t know if anybody ever notice the underwater canals deep in the ocean... Are this old or new? Happy to know what the devs were up to ; )
A closer look...
Alright. We know how Neuros have like, telepathic abilities, right?
And we can assume that the "Dinos" are basically just Human minds in the body of the dinos.
And the "Thousand Life Contract" thing.
So what IF. What if people sign a contract, and their mind just goes in the body of a Dino. And each time they die, due to some Neuro telepathy shit, their mind just keeps on being put from dino to dino
...
Hasn’t it already been soft-confirmed that the replicator is what’s causing the ‘cycle’?
My theory is that its kinda like jurrasic park, where they tried to contain dinosaurs in cages then boom they escaped, but with the isle once the dinosaurs escaped they kinda switched to see how the dinosaurs would adapt in there new habitat, and gentically motified them to see how that would go, those include hypos, neuros, etc. Basically in short AE made dinosaurs to make test on them and study them to see how they would adapt on an island and are currently making hypos for some reason
And then what about the tribals and the Humanoid-Like Strains
My theory is that the the Replicator turned against the humans and let the dinosaurs run wild, then made the Tribals to worship it and act as a physical presence on the island to complete tasks that it couldn’t remotely. Humanoid Strains would be perfected versions of the Tribals based on the traits of the already existing Dinosaur Strains that it would bestow upon favorable or particularly strong Tribals.
This is a pretty good one. Although it begs the question why Æ chose dinosaurian subjects for whatever purposes they had
I.. really have no idea. As far as I know nothing has been really said about either AE or Phoenix International’s motivations in using dinosaurs/prehistoric reptiles in general over anything else, or what they’re trying to achieve with them in the first place
I mean I’m guessing they were working toward something along the lines of immortality; eternal life and such, PC were rivals and Æ stole assets and altered them to how they saw fit.
Perhaps something set off the replicator to logically see this cycle as ‘optimal’. Considering you never actually die. Your physical form is killed but you move onto a different creatures body, hence the ‘THE END IS NEVER THE END’
Pretty sure PC made the dinosaurs for militaristic purposes though, with all of the combat adaptations and such. I guess making dinosaurs is just never a good idea 
What if the hypos are used to control the population like make sure it doesn't get too out of hand...
Nah hypos are literally built to decimate ecosystems. I’d see it as something along the lines of modifying certain values to create a ‘perfect’ ‘immortal’ creature.
Or in this instance, an immortal person (?? Entirely 2AM theory work going on here. Apologies if anything doesn’t make sense)

Or maybe some geneticist was bored and had recently watched the new Godzilla movie 
we may never truly know
Its been soft confirmed that hypos are genetic mutations caused by biomagnification of weird genetically modified plant (insert dondi scary tree speech) compounds consumed by herbivores and sent up the food chain, so when a t rex has too much Hypo Juice it has hypo babies, the way i understand. So hypos are almost certainly an accident, which caused Æ to engineer the magnatyrannus to kill them, but i wouldnt put it past apollo engineering to copy hypo genomes for their own purposes (ending ecosystems)
The ui leads us to believe that we're human minds controlling these animals, and can access them through old overgrown terminal. If i had to guess neuros are Æ peacekeepers that keep things from getting out of hand
it does sound legit
I draw a lot of similarities between how the replicator and how SOMA’s WAU behave, with the WAU being given orders to ensure the survival of the human race, but was never properly given guidelines while also being given near complete autonomy in its decisions. Once it clued into humans being lost forever when their meat bag dies, it made the machinery equipped with AI into new mediums for the copied versions of the humans minds. As for the replicator and Æ’s choice to use dinosaurs, I’d make a wild guess at PI figuring out the tech first for military purposes as a massive amount of technology in human history has, and Æ just wanting a piece of their work for their own and reversed it so they can produce their own dinos. The use of dinos in human experimentation might be a way (because they show great moral code in the first place) to skip around the Nuremberg and Mandela trials by not playing with human genetic modification, Directly. But that’s just my own uneducated opinion, take it as you will with a grain of salt
the lore of TI and primal carnage is still interconnected?
The original PC has intertwined lore with the isle yes, PCE is an entirely different game and is not though
The Isle and Primal Carnage: Extinction are basically two different timelines branching from the original Primal Carnage
extinction is more on the future
Why? I always thought Extintion like a immediate future to PC and after it would come The Isle with its Lore
That is if we don’t count with the possibility that Phoenix Industries still Alive and doing stuff while Apollo Engineering is doing stuff too. That would make then PC E and The isle coorelatives
Hypers were known back then
So is this channel basically a way for the devs to lift plot ideas that are cool and don't violate Universal Picture's intellectual property?
Perhaps. The basic lore stuff isn't really like Universal's stuff, but it's not the most original either. Robot cloning "Dinosaurs", robot goes rogue and forces people off the island.
Hmmmm
When I was new to the game, before I realized there was any human element, I hoped it was actually set in a prehistoric period. But I guess that wouldn't make sense to have dinosaurs from different ages mixed, unless it was some kind of land bridge to Madagascar kind of idea.
Not knowing the details, I would expect a robot to make hybrids, rather than genuine copies of the original DNA.
I think a fresh take would be to move away from the well funded mega corp trope and make it a hacky group with a CRISPR working it out on the cheap. Then things get out of hand, not from a lack of creativity, but from a genuine lack of resources, which is a scarcity the game probably needs.
Those were noticed on the initial top down previews of the maps. Not mentioned since though. interesting they're still there
what do you guys think the colossus is?
i think is a human injected with the hyperendocrine strain, perhaps something else was thrown in there...
I say human, injected with the dna from a hyper rex in order to get those more reptilian features to show up
carnage extinction is the prequel to the isle as humans were overthrown by dinosaurs
No, the original primal carnage has interconnected lore with the isle. Extinction isn’t affiliated with the isle
On Trello when they said you can choose to not die as an elder and become something far more terrifying are the devs talking about you can choose to become a strain?
erm yeah
how long do you think ae existed as a company?
40 years, from the 1960s until now
oh wow thats what i thought
Thats just my believe, i dont know if we have any information on how old it is, 1960s just makes sense to me, maybe a result of the cold war
i heard it took place in the 2000’s, 1900’s sound possible too
no it means you can become an op elder but eventually die of old age, or breed to make more powerful babies than yourself
or maybe becone hypo if u become elder alot of times
oh yea or maybe if say, you are dying as an elder rex, spino, giga ect, you can become the hypo of that dino?
They just said “something more terrible” doesn’t mean hyper 100% of the time
basically, "terrible" is more general.
More so, strains then hyper
yea i can see that
what do you think happened to the people?, were they killed by the dinos, or did they flee the island in fear?, also what do u guys ( and girls) think of the hypo raptor, what do you think its special perk is?
I remember on dondi stream where he was making on evrima I saw hypo utah
Hyper Utah was an awful design.
i kind of like it, could do with some diferent colors tho
Special ability is having two massive toe claws per foot whoopity dooo
I thought it was also going to be able to open doors
The Type-M Utah was supposed to be able to open doors, but now they want all Utahs to be able to do that
what does that do here
swamp. shrek confirmed as cannibal
Who do you guys think is the head of the mercs?
If it is any like the scp universe and they have an entire organization above the mercs foot soldiers or if it's just an military force that took on the containment over the creatures untill they could have done the missions have been fulfilled
I cant say is like scp
They might not all be under the same boss
It's the literal essence of mercenaries. They can be part of a group or freelancers. If AE hired them, then their boss is AE's boss. But my theory is rather that they are stuck on the island, so no boss for them
I just feel there is an entire world of lore not even the devs did think about when they gave us surton elements about the lore and didn't consider how it all would unravel
just surton ones
i cant wait for evrima to be finished, i want a scary game that makes me not even wanna play it
Lore ?
depending on what type of 'mercenary' they want.
Freelance, or more strict 'purchased' mercs.
But it all depends on what Dondi wants really
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if theyd be hireing freelancers it be too much an ingen rip off and depending on the concept art we saw it looks more like a military force
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So for the Isle's world, are the assets living on the island on purpose-(Were they released on the island for study) or did they escape enclosures like jurassic park?
There doesn’t seem to be any enclosures built up on the map, which could be a matter of the devs simply don’t have the assets to put them in right now, or the dinosaurs are meant to be free roaming
Oh ok so what's with some Concept art like the mosasaurus in that huge tank, like are only some assets meant to be contained like the hypos and I guess experimental marine assets like the mosasaurus
Probably, Mosasaurus and the strains are definitely special cases when compared to the other creatures
How will they keep mosa near the island? And don't tell me with that electro shield bubble around the map its way to unrelying specially on an island full of land dwelling dinosaurs cause we seen what they do to human structures
"Since we couldn't make them do what we wanted them to do, we had to convince them it was what they wanted" I guess
Not the exact quote but you get the spirit
I see that but it'll still be able to swim in the ocean so it could littarly just say fuck that I go for whales now.... Oh look other islands
Yeah probably. Because releasing it into the wild is a stupid idea. Not only do you lose your work (unless you have put a GPS tracker onto it, which is a bit hard for a marine reptile covered in keeled scales), you threaten existing oceanic ecosystems.
I don't think it'll be done like that cause like That mosa does not pose any sort of thread for anything cause people will know there is a more in there so they just don't go there and then mosa either way will starve or becomes a chill dino that no one will mess with in the first place so having it in the ocean but then a litteral wall around the island seems to be the only way to keep it protected
But flyers are still a thing so who am I to talk lol
well, it feels like the mosa would starve as fast as the humans are gone since there is no clear way for it to get into a large body of water where it can find sufficient prey but honestly, I still have no idea, considering it is from 3 year old stream we can't really know if it is still canon that the mosa pen exists
its very unreasonable tbh
Ocean =whales, whale sharks, large shools of fish's, sharks
yeah, I know, but how long would a mosa actually last?
mosasaurs are probably (partly) warm blooded. Though, if being reasonable, it might only be able to exist in the tropics. Also it depends on the genus/species of mosasaur (is it large or small, for example)
Depence on the season and part of the world it is I could imagine a mosa atleast surviving a fwe years before having done too much damage to the eco system
Well if Mosa is anything like a whale, it can survive several months without eating.
But considering how much overgrowth has happened (title screen for reference with the incredibly sanitary monitor) I doubt it’d just be left alone for “several months”
Okay. Facilities around. Dinosaurs. Mercenaries. Experiments.
So, is the OG theory of "The Isle" being a corporate experiment gone wrong, out of the picture yet?
Afaik, Æ make dinosaurs on quest for immortality, Put AI in charge of everything, said AI goes rogue and takes over the island, The Isle
I saw the devs are planning to add Mushrooms on update 4, but actually, they are not considered meat or plant, so what do you guys think those mushrooms are going to be?
mushrooms will be for herbivores and omnivores
Thing is not that it goes unnoticed
Even with the best tracking in the world capturing is a total diffrent story
I think the biggest thing the mercs could do is damage control until they somehow manages to capture it
So I have something, what is "The Unknown\Cannibal" exactly, I've heard it might be a tribal human that has eaten another Tribal member but i dont think so.
Community's collective lore for Ben:
((Not the official lore because we don't know Ben's official lore)) Updated: Aug 25, 2021
Origin:
- Considered a cryptid in the isle, Ben is a 'failed' early experiment and/or malformed dilophosaurus.
- Was made artificially and not hatched naturally from an egg. Images of early development "Ben's" in large test tubes.
- Has a unique condition called shortened spine syndrome giving her her stunted appearance.
- The replicator released Ben unto the world allowing her to live and even thrive in situations other, considerably better dinosaurs, wouldn't be able to. We don't know why.
Abilities:
- Very fast and scurries about
- Partial invisibility and heightened perception abilities. Possibly due to being contaminated with neuro strain DNA. (This is also the source of her odd blue color)
- Eyes glow red at night when shined by a light source.
- Ben cannon, can fire a laser from her mouth.
Vocals:
- Vocal cords are also malformed. Ben's vocals are distorted and sound more akin to terrible screeching than the cool cooing of a normal dilophosaurus.
Behavior:
- Like any classic cryptid, rarely seen but encounters vary from a quick glimpse before she flees to deadly encounters with little to no survivors.
- Ben prefers to scavenge for food but will easily take down prey smaller than herself.
- Curious but flighty
i love ben
Is this just random cause' I wasn't talking about "Ben"
Ben is always talked about
Ok, but I was talking about the pasty white beast that is super tall, "the Unknown"
I don’t think we have any official confirmation on those dudes, aside from the fact they’re somehow related to Tribals. There’s a few theories though.
oh well that sucks but I cant wait until it comes out! also can we play as humans yet? ive tried multiple servers and I couldn't play as a human.
That’s more for #isle-discussion , but no, humans are not playable and were only available for a short time back in legacy
I updated the community Ben lore and reposted it because it wouldn't let me edit the original message. Totally unrelated to your posting
ok
So Ben is canon now?
Yes
But the above post is a collection of community made lore and is not the official lore

shut up ben is canon
😐
I'm sure that the admin is well aware of this channel's rules.
It is the current going lore theories on Ben that the majority of the community agrees on conveniently gathered into one post instead of having to dig around and find every discussion on Ben ever.
from all the speculation from Dondi, I say (unless he is seriously trolling), Ben is canon
My entire contribution to the Isle development for update 4: https://t.co/yRW3qtpqrD
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dondi is obsessed with ben
like sometimes all he posts is ben references
Any idea what could be put into these gaps?
first gap a number maybe like "isle 101" second gap radio or warn maybe and 3rd gap team
Maybe the third is herd and it could be why the research team died cause something or someone interupted them while the pachies where fighting or doing their usual thing.
oh yeah that makes sense
I would've thought the three characters next to the isle would be either 'one' or 'two', in reference to the number of islands under AE's control.
As in, 'this is island one, where we had the pachy incident'.

yes. Which is good.
Something from the community (hopefully) in canon
ill update the doc with info from the pachy video i suppose, has there been any other info these past months. i remember seeing something in chat but i forgot
btw i never got around to checking if these morse codes are new, so if you feel like it you can do it. I used a morse code decoder app that could translate light and i leaned my phone on the screen so the camera could pick up all the light signals uninterrupted with me having to hold the phone constantly. Sadly because the devs have a bad habit of making morse code binary, you need really long footage to even decode a single sentence which is why i kinda gave up on the morse codes
Someone else already decoded them. It's just "This is just the beginning" 5 times in a row so i told him to stop. Can you send me the app?
I deleted it some time ago and now i cant find it on google play, either it's super down the list due to its age or it got deleted. But now there's a bunch of light decoders so i think any one of those would work
The redacted signal stops dinosaurs from perceiving humans, and humans have been on the island next to us dinosaurs the whole time, watching us. When humans are playable, it will be explained as the dinosaurs evolving to ignore the signal.
dont worry the app wasnt that great, it mistranslated a lot of stuff into random symbols so i had to rerun it a bunch of times and that was a pain in the ass
It doesn't matter what is in the gaps, it's just code designations or pseudo science names. What matters is the affect and the fact there are multiple research islands.
only thing that comes to mind is the first gap is one of the island names
Yeah. I went through the google drive document, but none of the important words like replicator or apollo fit in the gaps (referring to the signal).
But at least we know that Apollo was controlling the dinosaurs with this signal so they didn't atttack the researchers. Then something suddenly interfered with the signal which forced Apollo to leave the islands because the dinosaurs attacked them.
the pachy video has more info than what it seems at first glance. the apollo loading menus are always full of stuff. google doc updated
there's a bunch of numbers in the video background but it's not binary or hex. and without any other clues it could be a million types of ciphers or nothing at all
"REGION_NUMBER_12 SPIRO_0205" i think this means that spiro is isle #12
or that site 12 is on spiro
If i remember right there's 3 islands. 12 would be too much. And site 12 has connections with olympus
True. But there have to be at least 4 islands. V2, V3, Spiro (or Spero as a whole) V1 and Gateway (might be V1)
idk if the versions count as different islands or if they got de-canonized after evrima
What if the world is full with dinosaur sites, but somewhere, The Isle is just a low island next to a bigger one that creates all kinds of monsters and strains. Next to Spiro is a small isle that Dondi said is very hard to get to. Who knows. Maybe The Isle is the story of that Isle where the strains escape and make their way to Spiro and all the signals sent on twitter are from Spiro sites that send SOS signals to other sites across the world and they send help. The Isle might be a secret organisation that the other sited don't know about. And the strains one day escape and invade spiro.
This is from the console interaction. I highly doubt that this would be de-canonized. With Spiro that would be 6 islands
idk man the console stream is so old and our understanding of the lore is from bread crumps. so much for dondi having the entire lore and a book and releasing more of it
Yeah, he could really start to release more lore. Maybe update 4 :/
for real
i didn't even know there was lore in the isle!
Dondi plans for some good lore.
https://twitter.com/NotTheDondi/status/1352630636477968385
especially in here, where we voted about the ending of The Isle's story
So the main bulk story for the Isle is drafted and complete from the narrative standpoint.
I've made four possible endings.
What kind of ending are you hoping for?
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oh cool!
I would rather lore releases be secondary to gameplay releases
singleplayer story mode after Isle release 👍
a lot easier to convey a proper story
I don’t think there ever was a story mode planned
What would you even have a story mode follow? Dinos? Tribals? Mercs?
Isle was always meant to be multiplayer at its core as far as I know, story mode hasn’t been mentioned once, and I’ve been following the isle since day 1 of early access
What I believe it’s going to be is small details hidden around the map and in elements of gameplay that help you discover bits and pieces of lore over time
Yes I know there isn't a planned proper story mode for The Isle.
||Although it would probably be focused around Mercs, seeing as that would make sense||
However, I'm not sure how Dondi wants to push the "Ending of The Isle" - in it's narrative, when lore is only expressed in areas such as hidden map easter eggs etc.
Yes, doesn't mean they can't convey a story. But you'd feel less connected to lore compared to if you were actually in it. Making the "Destroy me emotionally" ending, quite hard to reach.
As much as I’m not a fan of how ARK did it’s story, it’s story just comes from progression and exploration
Yeah, that is how it seems it'll be for the time being.
I presume that is how Dondi wants it to be until he says otherwise
There’s not really any way I can see the Isle “destroying me emotionally” tbh but then again most movies or games don’t do that for me
If you ask me, the Isle from what we have heard and seen seems to be leaning more towards lovecraftian/cosmic horror, so an ending that reflects the type of feelings you’d get from that, such as from movies like The Thing or Annihilation or Call of Cthulhu.
The things that make me suspect that’s the direction the story will go are things such as strains, matriarch, etc
Simply things beyond our own understanding
And if dondi wanted his lore to be as secret as he says he does, the outcome of that vote probably does not matter in the slightest, he would do what the community is not expecting if he keeps it secretive as it is
Yeah true.
Which is a shame, I really want a good story.
As I love a good story- To which I hope Dondi can do something good, as I don't know how good he is
I would love cosmic/lovecraftian horror actually, but it’s a MAJOR gamble since it’s hard to pull off
Ultimately though the story doesn’t matter to me as long as I get to bash skulls as a tribal when they’re out 🙂
true, I own this game to play a survival horror 
I'm not expecting much, nothing like RDR2 or Uncharted- great story games.

unpopular opinion
my theory on how possibly the four different endings will be like will be either A: The mercs succeed in doing what their employers want (whatever that may be). B: they manage to do the right thing in a sense where they will stop the replicator or whoever/whatever the real threat behind everything (possibly going against their employers if their employers don't want to really stop everything and just make themselves more powerful). C: the mercs either try doing the right thing or what their employers want but mess up in the end and unleash something bad on the island, themselves or possibly the world. D: That the tribals and/or replicator succeeds in whatever task it was trying to accomplish and is able to carry out its next step whatever it may be. i could see the mercs and maybe tribals having a story element to them in the way where they can choose to carry out missions/tasks which could lead to a location on the map and a ending in a sense that starts whatever on that server and then after a bit the server goes back to normal. Then again i'm not sure and i could be surprised by the outcome of the game and lore the path it takes.
i actually think the mission and reason the mercs are being called active from AE is to retrieve the research left on the island or to follow further study on creature and their natural based bhvr but since everything did go down and for the security of the personal from AE weaponry has been provided for any kind of trouble they'll run into the first place and after the data has been successfully gathered it is about containment and damage control until further missions has been ordered how ever this only would make since if my theory is correct that the so called "mercs" are actually a military force working for AE
yeah i could see that being the case for the mercs. i think its either their mission to take back the island, get whatever data they can from the island and/or retrieve or disable the replicator, if the replicator even is able to be retrieved or disabled. Yeah i could see that being the case for mercs for the most part. will be interesting to see as more is added lore wise.
i personally dont think the replicator will ever be dismantlement cause of the science point of view what seems to be controlling the AE organization / i for my love the open lore we have for this wonderful speculation we can do on our own
I think the lore is that
Jurassic park
you think
We never had any vasilitys that shows to be an amusement park and nor has it ever given any hints in any concept art about any similarly between those two
exept the fact about being an island group with dinosaurs that used to have humans and then did go south but also not even cause of the same reason
Yes
Honestly the ben lore was the true high quality stuff.
lore always is high quality stuff if it is written well
tfw I thought the pachy was going to open the floodgate to more lore hints
Pachy isn't released yet so there is still hope. But imo i don't think we will get anything big before nesting or nightvision. The nightvision could be used like UV light so you can only find some things at night
the day we get more lore will be a great one
two words: scp foundation
i mean we got a few pieces of lore sauce in the pachy trailer, at this point anything'll do
i beg they start back up the lore shit
Stead of begging for more rather be happy on what we already have
no
no
no
no
Yes
Yes
No
Fine.
Until Dondi says something about Ben again
What does a wild boar mean for the lore? ^^
Means that they could have brought them onto the island to sustain the carnivorous dinosaurs
Either that or the modern animals have just been living on the island since before AE started their work
Idk but in game it means run away as fucking far as possible
🐖
Surprisingly ALOT cause it means we can closer determine where the isle is located on the world since we know the hopefully "natural" fauna on the island
This is a map with wild boar population considering that we narrow the area where the island is already really down my opinion is that the island is somewhere in the marked area
Sorry my poor editing skill
And here's a list of reasons why
Military force seems easy to reach the place
We got to know the fauna
The climate seems was more tropical meaning its closer to the equator
And standing on the beach of the island nothing but water
It could be in the pacific between the USA and japan
I did consider that too but the fact that the island is quickly reached by the mercs kinda strikes this thought for me cause in case of an emergency
Maybe it's the opposite, they want the island to be in a remote area in order to not be found doing their barely-ethical experiments ?
Would reinforce the theory that mercs are stuck on the island, too
Well If my theory is correct about AE they have enough military force and help from the coverment to keep one island secured for a six kilometer area with out any issues
I'm afraid we'll have to wait for the release of mercs to understand what's going on
Yeah I agree on that
the boar is certainly interesting but we cant really be sure if that's a native wild population or if it was brought it by AE or by earlier people
The boars could have been introduced by spanish or british explorers that wanted to make a colony and then abandoned the island
Yes but since they still managed to keep the population up meaning the nature and climate is productive for the species
It be interesting to know what species of boars we deal with honestly that determin so much more
means it's a properly functioning ecosystem (Isla Spiro)
Well yeah that's why they also had to build the swamp
But if the climate isn't correct for a species specially like boars need specific temperature else they'd go extinct on the island
I think a tropical island is suitable for boars no?
They are quite adaptable creatures
Maybe they are actually feeder pigs for the dinosaurs that changed into boars over the years after the island was abandoned 
Really depence actually on what species of boars we are dealing with the central European boar is really more suited for cold wheater rather then tropical and I couldn't see them thrive on an tropical island
Imo that's too far up as it can get quite cold in that area too. This area might be where V3 is located. I think Spiro is in the space between South America and Africa where the continents used to be together.
Well I see your thoughts on that but I have a friend out of Florida and he often talks about how it never gets cold there so if the island is only nearly abit more to the American/carabeans direction to the equator it could totally be
"Isla"
if it doesn't sound obvious- it's literally got Isla in the name
I presume the island's geographical placement shares a lot with the game's inspiration. Jurassic Park.
So, it's quite safe to say it's probably near central America/Caribbeans
Yes but I wouldn't set it so far down on the map to say it is in the southern hemisphere
I highly doubt it's anywhere near the Southern hemisphere.
Current spatial distribution feels more tropical
although yes, you could locate it somewhere near the Philippines
but then, why is it called "Isla Spiro" when we have large tie ins like Isla Sorna (JP)
although, I could see Dondi trying to move away Isle's Spiro to be less- JP like. (in terms of placement)
I doubt AE named the island
All in all is what I conclude is that the island how ever anyone wanna call it now is more located on the warmer part of the Atlantic Ocean considering of the information fauna/flora we have currently
And maybe AE renamed the islands for operational purposes in due to information towards puplic press in the case some information would leak at some point
Basing the guess on boar population is flawed. Not only are our in-game boars Russian on a tropical island, but you also fail to consider that a military outfit can launch from just about anywhere if there is an appropriate ship or base of operations.
Approaching it from the climate needs of things such as a Redwood Forest may be a better approach, if you wanted to base a theory on a singular species.
And also
Why wouldn't it be the Southern Hemisphere?
It's rather illogical to not include that possibility.
There's nothing to say it's not.
New Zealand and Australia both can have tropical climes and redwood trees, so, if anything it's slightly more likely to be in the Southern Hemisphere.
Probably somewhere in the south pacific, more remote, easier to hide
It certainly is not a flawed method to determine somethings location on the cff method (climate flora fauna) now I do have to say that the island inhabits the domestic chicken is a complete cold trail and those could just been the last animals out of the feeders
And I don't consider it to be in the southern hemisphere cause even if you have tons and tons from mobile military action bases they still need supply and it is easyer to react in the altantic ocean then it be on the pacific due to size
Now I do agree on you that the Russian boar pretty much can thrive everywhere but setting up a theory on a local area animal like a boar from behavior whise is certainly not the worse guess to go by for a theory
You admit that it's flawed by stating you're using that method with a species in mind that is widespread literally throughout most of the world. Lol
Let alone, you go against your own method by selecting an area that is less likely to have some of the intended flora, such as Redwoods.
It's no where near a area that is not capable of having redwoods cause it is on the same equator level where the redwoods forest in America is just more east
I never said it's not capable, I said it's less likely.
And latitude and longitude are not sole decided factors.
No of course not as we already know in the lore of the isle humans have been interfering with the flora aka Terra forming the isle all the time such as being capable of planting redwoods there
Terraforming probably isn't the appropriate term to use there unless we start getting domes of localized atmosphere and such. Planting redwoods isn't hard. Them growing and remaining healthy in what would be a potentially stressful environment would be. There's also the facet that could make the entire point moot by the devs just wanting redwoods and having no justifications behind it.
But, as a biologist, I've not heard of your "cff" method but I would certainly not be using it with invasive species as the variables.
i do agree on this they probably didn't had much thought other then redwoods cool and so far for my method i learned it from an teacher out of my school who where a hunter in his free time also on the point of keeping the trees healthy id say and wouldn't be surprised if they aren't pure redwoods anymore after a ton on genetic manipulation and crossbreeding with other needle trees such as pine tree
i do believe that it's more likely for the isle to take place in the southern hemisphere but without more concrete evidence nothing is set in stone
We could get a really amazing evidence in the game with star arrangement to get a way more precise placement where the island would be located but I think that be too much to ask from the devs
Pretty sure they're just using the dynamic sky BP so unless they purposely place specific constellations ya I wouldn't use the stars as an accurate way to find the island location x)
a better way would be the ai or even sounds if they place them their purposly that is since some aniamls are rare or are in fewer places
But then introducing species happens, so judging off that might not work
Hence the problem with relying on introduced and invasive species to try and determine probable location. Lol
Especially on a remote island base, that has cloning tech
Since that means they could just, clone the animals that are weird to be on the island
hey, I found a really weird spot with strange guttural/water like sounds. There's also a little rock formation
here's the coords
here's an image of the spot. there's some really creepy gurgling sounds being played here, that aren't found elsewhere. I have no idea how this could play into lore, but I just wanted to let you guys know
That's the little cave that got blocked off. Some streamers and youtubers have gone into it via spectate cam
Oh okay, just thought I would share
me trying to find out why this exist
To discuss The Isle's lore
Just when you thought the isle community could read they yet again prove not to be able to
if im correct lava is going to be here as its a cave thats blocked off. so the noises are like bubbling lava/tar that just hasnt got anything there yet
the sound emitter is there, just not the rest
The isle lore- Crazy scienctist make Dinosaurs and release them into the unknown island asteroid impact the island! And the Dinosaurs is getting sold by richers!-someone told me this and i dont think its correct or at least i have never heard of
I highly doubt it is. There is no clue about an asteroid, nor about dinosaurs getting sold to whoever.
Also it's a little more complex than that but whatever
yea thats what i thought
who told you this?
Sounds like the plot of jurassic world fallen kingdom. Except instead of a volcano they changed it to an asteroid
Devs never talk about asteroids
Devs (Dondi) talk about Ben
idk if i’m crazy but i’m prettyyy dang sure i can hear a faded primal carnage rex roar in the distance as ambience, maybe they’re gonna keep primal carnage intertwined with the lore?
I don't see why they wouldn't
Is the hypo thing still goin or not
yes
They already made it
when was the first appearance of magna tyrannus (not question)
yea i know, just didn’t know if they were gonna keep doing it or not
yeah they will
I totally agree. I hear alot of sounds mixed into the Isle from Primal Carnage, as well! I can't wait to see how the games will tie together more completely when the Isle is done.
If you see the transmissions you can see there how AE received the signals from PI and Operation Inferno
what is AE?
Apollo Engineering. Presumably genetic engineering.
thanks
basically, quite like In-gen from JP
this game reminds me of dino crises
Isle Lore theory! What if.. aliens invaded earth and set up one big reality show, with unaware people being trapped on the island with dino's for the pure and utterly unmatched pleasure of dinosaur cliff hangers! Looking for the camera easter eggs whilst in the woods. O.O

Visible version lol
looks like it was suppose to be a waterfall
yea or unfinished cave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1uZ60pxrIs&t=2s&ab_channel=Islander Its a cave @loud gate @olive whale
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@slow delta i found the app that you mentioned. But i don't understand why the app turns the morse code into binary when you can just translate the light into actual letters
Its not the app translating it into binary. Everytime you open the menu a new morse code plays and most of them are in binary. So you have to translate the morse, then you get binary and then convert that to letters. Some morse codes are letters but not all of them
I see
Dinosauriac made the sentences into binary and then morse to make it harder to decode and make it seem larger than it is. :(
He left, didn't he? Which means no more binary in future updates
Unless the devs continue on with his tradition
dinosaurs on an island
Yes, so true
but what if the island is on a dinosaur?
I think humans decided to clone dinosaurs on an isle and opened a park and all the dinosaurs ate the people and the humans abandoned the isle. Thats the lore. Yw
It’s Æ lel
So from what I've seen (and i know a lot is in the air and subject to change) AE steals Dna assets from Phoenix blah blah blah..... We know this. AE and a number of different islands I know of Replicator is created and becomes self-aware and decides that it likes to see things suffer.
They speak of a 2nd Dome, Taurus (The prison of the titans so heavy containment) and such but more importantly of the gateways
Me thinkys that the gateways are a couple of things, 1. A way of transporting things, People, Material , Dinos you name it to the different test sites and island without hassle 2. Some sort of storage/ information + power umbilical cord that allow access to anything connected (so massive LAN internet but bad-ass) and 3. an extension of the replicator a sort of gestation on the spot machine
Sorta like this, it pops of of the ground from a hidden access point and it rips of the robo-placenta. This is then you wake up after you spawn in.
So the Replicator controls the gateway a umbilical cord for everything and somehow either blackmails (by like saying your gonna suffer pain x a trillion if you don't listen to me) or forces all intelligence's into the gateway so it can cause them endless suffering by putting them in a unforgiving dinosaur world over and over. You own a Intelligence ID (I forgot the naem but it's linked to your steam ID) that is transferred no-matter what animal. Which means its canon you remember experiences that a new born creature could not have known and that you can change species.
The Replicator likes suffering but also data, data is part of watching the suffering. It was said that tribals sacrifice things to the Replicator and it gains data which makes it favor them. So perhaps why AE hasn't stepped in is because the Replicator creates a unique environment for testing. Such as if a artist is suffering from a mental Illness and creates new and unique art that no one has created before. Maybe The Replicator is making generic jumps in science that go unexplained but work (such as the creation of new strains that would take decades in a few years ) or because it create a system where the strongest monsters get culled in days, and ravenous beasts to destructive to stay in one place have their hunger satiated for years. Perhaps the Mercs are also there to gain data and to experiment on one of the most unique places on "!?Earth?"(On second thought since we get to play as them Mercs might also be apart of the whole suffering loop)
So anywho, Find dinos make dinos. Make machine and system to make making dinos efficiently and cheaper. machine takes over system and throws the whole operation in chaos and becomes sadistic. Company decides that it creates a unique opportunity/develops research faster so they decide to study it's actions instead of destroying it. *sorry for the long post and spelling errors, it's like 1:00am and i really wanted to throw this out there
I like your theory ! This reminds me of something I was thinking some time ago. Maybe AE didn't create the strains, but the Replicator did it on its own ? Then AE was so fascinated in them that they allowed the replicator to replicate them (except neuro spino), not knowing it would use them later to drive them off and claim the island as its own.
I remember people talking about the global quest for mercs. Maybe we will eventually be ordered to destroy the replicator by AE
i think, just cause how complex the replicator might be, they might want to disable it to then recode and make a new one that doesnt go against them although if they cant do that they may just have to destroy it. This being said, thats if AE even realise the threat of the replicator so far.
from what material does the replicator create flesh etc to make dinos?
like it cant be just magic
so what if its like in AOT? the same method, material
or just near same
DNA
And self reproducing cells
.... thats boring
pffffff
i hope they make it so troodons can tear through bodies to hide in similar to dryo burrow animation but in a body
Wrong channel
So I guess most of us then agreed on the theory that “the replicator” makes dinosaurs and those are the players that spawn right?
However the dev team did say that spawned dinos wil get some kind of tracker of some sorts and hatchings that spawned from nesting won’t have them so does the replicator also give the tracker automatically?
Well it could
Remember the thing can create entire fucking regions, I don't think trackers are out of its capabilities
Can we be sure that the isle isnt on an island in the north?
We can get a rough estimate due to its climate and environment
yes they do, it's a genetic modification, maybe an organ that works as tracker, maybe a gland?
K thx I first tought it was like a research facility for humans to start making dinosaurs but this seems way cooler
good to know!
I think it’s just a normal tracker that was added to them
Idk where you picked that up, but the replicator didn't create the islands
Check the transmissions channel
It literally says :
Region 2
Replicating
Unless it's not the replicator that replicates, this is quite self-explanatory
My bad. I completely forgot about this. Makes me think that all of it is a simulation because creating regions just like that is impossible. It would also explain how the replicator is able to inject profiles (human consciousnesses) into newborn dinosaurs that don't have a chip in their head.
I'm wondering too how can the replicator have so much power. At this point, it's basically a god. It is hinted at that it is mechanical, but maybe it's not man-made, since I don't know how humans could create something that powerful.
But the simulation theory is boring as hell, and isn't that Ark's lore already ?
well it might not be making an island but instead be in charge of terraforming one and that is something that happens i think it was v 3 that was getting terraformed
Make more sense ye, it’s given the clay, it has to mold it
No, only "gen1" map is a simulation.
Also, I heard the replicator may be under control of the neurotenic mastermind (A.k.a. "echidna"), which may explain the way it is getting information from dead creatures
"Region 2 Replicating" Could also mean a lot of things. Like I'm sure Region 2 won't be done for years, "Replicating" could mean anything from throwing sand on a spot in the ocean to detonating a nuke to cause a volcano to form. Maybe shows the extent of the gateways?
If someone could write a massive paragraph on the WHOLE of the isles lore to me.. that would be great
There's compilations in the pinned messages
My Question is, what was Apollo Engineering planning on doing with the Dinosaurs they made? Were they gonna develop weapons from them, or take the John Hammond approach with a Theme Park?
I don’t think anything is confirmed but a popular theory is immortality, with the human consciousnesses being uploaded to the dinosaur bodies and all
The following question is usually “why dinosaurs then”, the answer to which I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is that they chose dinosaurs for being the closest to evolutionary perfection, having a much longer time period to progress unbridled than anything in the Cenozoic age.
My theory about "why dinosaurs" is tied to the strains. Below is an old post of mine about this.
My guess is that those had something specific in their oganisms, genes or something that allowed them to turn into strains. Or, basically, imagine the "strain juice" is something that is produced in tiny amount, only by those extinct reptiles. Scientists brought them back to life to extract that "strain juice" and play with it to be able to turn things into actual strains, and also study why only those extinct reptiles are able to produce/handle them. Also note that hyperendocrin is made from an existing hormone, but tissoplastic and neurotenic aren't.
It could be it started out as just trying to make dinosaurs and then slowly tunred into the whole lets put humans in these
so my theory is still and has always been the good 'ole "they're trying to create the Ultimate Organism, for Reasons"
what are those reasons? hard to say. probably started out as a weapon-of-war thing but they've gone beyond that into just trying to recreate god
so they started with dinosaurs, because they were Big, Tough, and Toothy in a way that could still combat modern machinery (a bear can take on a car, but a rex could legit just step on it and it's done,) and they initially wanted to bio-engineer it, so they created the hypo strain. but then their hypo rex got defeated by a magna rex, Thronebreaker, and they realized they couldn't simply bioengineer something that was perfect- they'd have to behaviorally engineer it, as well.
so they set up the isles as a training grounds, of sorts. they wanted something that had a wealth of experiences to draw upon, that had lived and died thousands or millions of times, and seen from the eyes of the smallest herbivore to the biggest carnivore, and could determine the most optimal chances of survival in any given situation. they created "profiles," or compilations of the lives of dinosaurs, and they added human consciousnesses controlling the dinosaurs to make them act more unpredictably, but added incentives for acting more dinosaur-ey so the eventual creature would know how to actually sustain itself. (see: repeated mention to the "thousand life contract," and the "we could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them it was what they wanted")
but, at least one of the profiles went rogue, and took over the replicator. Echidna was probably a failed profile (potentially going into the fact that a consciousness created from a constant cycle of life and death would almost invariably be insane.) she took over the replicator and potentially attempted to combine human and dino DNA, creating the cannibals (or reviving a previous experiment that created them, since there do seem to be "official" result published of their mental degredation over time) and the experiment started to come apart. humans were either exterminated across the isles, most of the isles are now defunct, and the whole kit 'n kaboodle seems to have potentially escaped control of AE.
there are variables that I haven't quite sorted out yet, and a handful of cryptic messages from the transmitter, but ye, that's what i've got
Could I get an explanation on what the “Transmissions” are in general?
Transmissions is like getting signals "messages"
From an unknown source?
something like that
Adding to the ‘what is replicator’ conversation. If you’ve ever watched Evangelion, it could be something like that. Where the replicator is similar to an Eva, both manmade but also a god-like force.
Or maybe the replicator is a Deity that already existed, and was waiting for man to make it a vessel.
I once thought that the replicator could have existed before humans came, but I scrapped it when I learned it was a machine. How would that happen ? I mean, the replicator existing but needing humans to build it a physical body ? How would people even manage to do that ? (Although it's already easier than creating a god all by yourself)
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It would be interesting if all the players are AE personel observing the lives of the dinosaurs we play as, itd make a cannonical reason for the spawn select to be a computer screen
(Idk how viable this idea is, just kinda thought about it for a minute or two and figured I'd share here)
What if there are no dinosaurs, its just a bunch of raccoons being high as the sky and thinking they are dinosaurs
If all of The Isle is a dream.
Then, who knows
The replicator is just the person that gives them the drugs
No that’s just for the genesis pt 1 rest of the maps are actually happening
Are the cannibals failed clones that escaped or are they native to the isles?
Dondy explained that they are not humans but close to mere humans. evovled.
Interesting
does anyone know if the cannibals sounds from aviary were removed?
Ben as a prototype for the cannibals through crossing human Dino dna
Just to add to the ben pile. what if ben was an early draft of phoenix's attempts at dinosaurs, or even the strains. Just putting that out there : |
I think Ben has been made after they got dinos, hence why it's a dilo. But maybe you're right, who knows. At least we're pretty much sure she's a failed experiment. Or maybe a successful one ?
Imo Ben was created by the replicator just so it wouldnt be the only god-like thing
Now I'm wondering, is there any chance the Ben cannon is canon ? (Art by Sevra)
ben is canon yes
yes, seeing as Punchpacket decided to take a look at it
Well yes and no
My question was about the fact she can spit lasers
yes thats canon i misread it
Ben is canon but we do not know if Ben cannon is canon
okay thanks
you see, the dilo has venom right? Maybe those venom glands got adapted into a cannon, hence bens ability to become ben cannon
maybe rather than venom it would be pathogens on rotten meat
maybe
The Isle's dilo has actual venom, not just a very infectious bite.
Idk man that seems to Jurassic park like to me
I'm not the one who decided on this. Yes, it's very jurassic park-like, but Isle dilo does have venom, wether you like it or not.
No no, it's cool
The venom is different. The ingen dilophosaurus utilizes a venomous projectile spit to paralyze and blind it’s prey, while the Isle’s Dilo has a venomous bite
Appocaliptic dilos i think the normal ones are enough
wtf is "Ben"?
A dilo with a laser beam in its mouth?
no
So what is she* then?
Ben was originally a photoshopped dilo made as a meme, people flocked to the idea, and Dondi canonized it
is a failed experimental creature
neato, thank you
@void summit
Oh I love her*
her*
her*
Idk if this is "lore", but the Troody's 1 and 4 calls caught my ear.
The 1 call, if you listen closely, sounds a tad bit like an "Oh yeah!", as if the first specimens of Troo mimicked an ecstatic, successful scientist. Over generations the troods could have taught this sound, it changing up over time to sound more like an "...Ooooohueaaa!"
The 4 call, I'm going to say this in one word: Screaming.
I think you're overthinking it. Also every 4-call in the game is basically a scream. Isn't troodon's 1-call inspired on some bird ?

Troodon 1 call is just an excited "nyAAAA"
For the sake of giving behind the scenes context, the calls of Troodon are a mix of hyena and gibbon. Uuh there's not too much information on why they sound like that(other than the fact that they probably have lyrebird like syrinxes) and if they just happen to make this sound or have learnt it.

that was ood
I like your thinking I mean they are mimic creatures I'd love for that to be the case. I'm not sure they were thinking that way but they should def see this and roll with it
Yeah, I just wanted to do something. Looking back after 4 days, I see now
I really like your idea of troodons’ mimicking ability as an aspect of the lore. Having them be natural recordings of what happened when the dinosaurs escaped. Sounds horrifying tbh.
theory: dusty dinosaurs
Why is everyone calling Ben her? Isent ben a kinda clear sign its a male or am i just daft
The creator of Ben said it’s a girl
EyeSeeYou ^
Yes. EyeSeeYou was the individual who took the original screenshot of the dilo that would later be edited into Ben. That dilo was female so Ben be female
Yes.
Why did humans leave the islands?
This is the big question
Many people guess the Replicator drove them out to continue its experiments on its own
But, how
There's plenty of ways
The most evident one would have been to mass-produce strains to force the humans to run away (or kill them all)
On the more subtle side, it might probably have jammed their communications, disabled their systems and that kind of things
humans created the replicator?
yes
We don't know
The fact it's a machine hints at the fact humans made it, but I find it unlikely, considering the fact it has a mind of its own, godlike powers, and those things
Someone once supposed it could be some sort of god (or alien, if you prefer) that was waiting for humans to create a vessel for it
How do dinos roam around freely on islands? like was they on a containment chamber? contaiment breach? damn soo many questions on my head
I mean maybe they create for some purpose but is sill a big question
The Island was most likely designed to let dinos roam freely on it. Hence the bunkers, the choppes to get around, the (almost) absence of roads and fences
There are some walls though, probably meant to keep them in certain areas of the island or limit their interactions (niche partitioning
)
Do they transfer dinos to islands? orrrr?* 
Since there is only one replicator and several islands, I guess they do transfer them somehow.
What happens when a dino dies? i saw something on death screen like "pinging location bla bla" "HELLO ANYONE THERE?" "HELP ME"
all creatures that replicator created is tracked
It's debated. I, as well as some others, am convinced that their consciousness is transferred to another living being (dino or human), hence the return to the selection screen. Those two sentences also have debated meanings, we may assume it's the replicator trying to communicate with the deceased asset, or the asset itself sending those... or someone (or something) else.
SoOO MAnnY queStons
I remember someone was talking that dinos are humans
It's a subject that is regularly brought up. I think it's the case, because when you read the lore elements we have (in the pins) it all makes much more sense if you assume dinos have human consciousnesses inside of them and they keep being reincarnated when they die.
Also justifies the fact dinos are playable and don't act like actual dinos (even AIs)
Guys i found something about death screen can i send it its kinda long i mean not soo long
ERROR 93- SYSTEM FAULT
Is anyone there?!
Initiate systems diagnostic…
14%...
40%...
77%
99%...
WARNING - SYSTEM COMPROMISED
INIT.firmware update
Please enter clearance code
ERROR - Unable to establish connection to Harvest Base!
Attempting to re-establish linkup in 30 seconds…
HELP ME!
Network Intrusion Detected
INIT SiteTrace.exe
Attempting to verify source…
ERROR: Cannot identify carrier signal, satellite triangulation required
INIT. T.C. satellite-linkup...
I'm pretty sure it's already been posted, and people speculated about the meaning on each of those lines some time ago. I can't remember what they said nor can I tell you what they mean, but once again, there can be a lot of lore info hidden in these if you search right.
Another one,
!WARNING! - System Efficiency @ 15%
!WARNING! - Power Cells Depicted
INIT. T.F. satellite/RemoteTrace.exe
THE END IS NEVER THE END (X5)
Signal source locked @192.168.1.1
Thermal Imaging engaged
Local heat signature identified
Deploying countermeasures
Event log update - asset tracking - L#01-A
Latest Apollo Mainframe Login: 999999 days ago
INIT. remote monitoring task…
CHECK @human presence…
CHECK program running…
"Signal source locked 192.168.1.1" its locks our location? man...
Idk looks like someone got on the Island and into the system and the system is like nope no you don't
theres also a morse code on thenyaw radio tower
I think every morse code has been translated, you should really check the pins if you wanna know more
Whats about STRUCTUREs on v3? like buildings near twins lake
Do you have picutres ? We know there's a lot of building variety on those islands... labs, warehouses, garages, living quarters...


