valheim-chat

[mighty lion]

ah ok i see

[steel mica]

My hours will probably double once 1.0 drops

Currently still sitting at 881hours and waiting patiently for the last major update 🥺

I have ALOT in mind on what to do,but that will have to wait till 1.0 releases

[balmy seal]

I remember the good olde days when games were released complete. No updates at all.

[steel mica]

Its very nice to have a full product but there is one thing finished games cant beat

Excitement, especially for a game's final major update

You get the feel of "Oh shit, were actually here, the last biome."

[balmy seal]

And the sadness

[steel mica]

That aswell

But still that journey of it all is so worth it

A lot rage inducing moments, satisfying moments, and most importantly memorable moments

[open bolt]

Meanwhile, games like TES5 were released and re-released many times and they are still so glitchy xD I wish TES5 would have "updates", to deal with a lot of that.

Releasing a finished game often means it will have many bugs and glitches that will only be discovered as we play.
Releasing early access means they have more room to fix glitches and bugs as we play, so we basically help to fix the game before the oficial release. Which isn't bad.

[steel mica]

If I had the ability to remove all memory of me ever playing or knowing about valheim and re-expirence it, I honestly would do it

[balmy seal]

I've said the same thing. Also Subnautica. And Skyrim too since Alves mentioned it.

Maybe Elden Ring as well

[steel mica]

Subnautica is up there aswell for me quite a memorable game

In fact I did a quick run of it again like a month ago

[open bolt]

I've been recommended that one a lot too. Havent been able to try it yet tho...

[balmy seal]

Do it. And don't look up anything online, it's best figured out while playing.

[steel mica]

You will probably crap yourself, I promise you 🙃

But yes experience it without knowledge

[open bolt]

Got it ^^

[steel mica]

You will probably get ptsd from a certain... encounter

[balmy seal]

I love the random curve ball the game throws at you about midway in. You think you've figured out what it's about and then "wtf was that??"

[granite grail]

Is it actually an adventure game or a horror game? (Subnautica)

[steel mica]

combination of the two

:))

But more specifically its a survival game

[balmy seal]

Very subtle horror, if you could call it that. There was a couple of instances I found genuinely disturbing.

[open bolt]

I heard it's like "alien" stuff but with underwater exploration, or something...

[steel mica]

I went out of my way finding and neutralizing every single one

[balmy seal]

But the sense of isolation and exploration is second to none. I love games that make me feel alone in a big world, and Subnautica excels at this.

[steel mica]

Valheim is quite similar but atleast you have tamables and neutral creatures such as the dvergrs

big bases can feel quite empty

[open bolt]

Oh, it actually has a discount on steam rn 👀
And I don't work this friday... longer weeked... so I might buy it.

[balmy seal]

Exploration sure, but I don't get much of a sense of isolation with Valheim.

[steel mica]

Its because valheim has a sense of scale

You're bound to encounter something

[balmy seal]

It seems to be on special, at least in Australia.

[steel mica]

Subnautica does NOT

You have no idea what might be in the dark waters

That was me for my first time playing

[open bolt]

I see. I just checked on the browser now. I'll check later on my steam acc too. Maybe it also has a discount 🙏

[steel mica]

I feel bad for those with thallasaphoba 😭

[balmy seal]

The sameness of the Valheim world doesn't help. Subnautica felt pretty big when I first played it because of the biome variation.

[steel mica]

I've gotten used to valheim's scale

portals help a lot

[open bolt]

How big is the subnautica map, btw?

[steel mica]

But yeah I do feel you with Subnautica feeling bigger

[balmy seal]

Fast travel is one thing I don't like in games, but I understand the necessity. I used to fast travel in Skyrim all the time until I did a playthrough without it. I was missing out on so much stuff. And the world felt bigger too which I liked.

[steel mica]

All I can say its static, no random seed, no changes

Looking at it, it looks smalls

[balmy seal]

It's not huge, but it has depth

[steel mica]

But actually getting into it... yeah whole different experience

[granite grail]

Y'all are making me so curious this game keeps popping up in conversations in my life lol

[balmy seal]

Get it

[open bolt]

I see 👀

[balmy seal]

Thank me later

[steel mica]

A phenomenal game just like valheim

especially if you like survival games

[steel mica]

Literally

[granite grail]

I don't knowww I don't mind shocks or jumps scares but I'm not for something that is intentionally an oppressive atmosphere

[balmy seal]

No atmosphere underwater

[pliant hatch]

There's some presure you need to deal with, though.

[granite grail]

I love chat sometimes 😂 😂

[steel mica]

The closest jumpscare we can get to valheim is a troll and a goddamn bear

[open bolt]

Serpents also do a good job at it...

[steel mica]

Oh they'll discover it once they start playing

[steel mica]

Not for me, SERPENT MEAT IS BACK ON THE MENU BOIS

[granite grail]

I run head first into bears while sprinting and neither of us notice for like 2 seconds 😭 😂

[open bolt]

Or seeker in the mist. They usually make a noise when they aggro, but sometimes they don't, so they get me by surprise.

[barren gyro]

Idk there's times when youre in the mists and all of a sudden a lox appears in the plains or seekers in mistlands.

[open bolt]

Yeah xD

[steel mica]

Lox aswell... seekers fear me

[granite grail]

Playing Mistlands on mute is a whole other playing field 😂

[steel mica]

The big tree for jumspcares in valheim (literally big lol)
Trolls
Bears
Lox

[pliant hatch]

I think ticks are worse. You run by something in the mist and all the sudden one jumps on your back and start sucking your HP down.
A normal one is something you can deal with. But a 2 ⭐.....

[barren gyro]

I always hear hares and think its the seekers.

Its a weird chirping sound they make

[granite grail]

How do u get jump scared by trolls tho you can see them from a mile away?

[open bolt]

Their color kinda blends in the BF environment

[barren gyro]

I have had times when you're paying attention to something else and all of a sudden you're being hit with a log or a slam.

[steel mica]

Fighting...
Mining...
Chopping...
You emit noise that covers their footsteps which gives them time to sneak up on you and jump you lol

[granite grail]

Huh that's surprising I don't think I've ever not known a troll was there. Maybe 1 time only

[pliant hatch]

Guess you never looked up from your copper mining pit because of doing a Skyrim bandit action? (AKA "I think I heard something") and then seeing a troll looking down on you from the surface.

[steel mica]

Mind you SNEAKING behind you not infront of you

[dim trellis]

all it takes is like 4 trees to block your entire view

[steel mica]

Seeing a giant tall ass blue man in front of you will surely alert you

[granite grail]

No 😂

[steel mica]

But combining mining, fighting, or anything that can cover their footsteps gives them the ability to sneak up behind you 😭

[granite grail]

I always see them on the hills and whatnot when I'm scanning I am always looking in all directions

To me they are very obvious 😭

[steel mica]

I've gotten used to the troll but they still get me from time to time

[balmy seal]

A pity trolls don't launch your character like giants in Skyrim.

[steel mica]

Bears and lox are probably the ones that jumpscared me the most

[barren gyro]

Lure enemies to foreign biomes if possible.

[granite grail]

And bears have the worst reaction times

[barren gyro]

Reap the loot

[pliant hatch]

I think the one that jumpscared me the most is something that goes "Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt

followed by "Shit! I'm dead?"

[barren gyro]

Have you tried any Viles yet? They are very jumpscary

[granite grail]

They're also super FAST

[barren gyro]

Yup and tanky

[balmy seal]

I was just thinking of Viles. Their screams are genuinely horrifying.

[granite grail]

Sounds like you don't have root armor

[barren gyro]

If you dont have anything silver its a slow fight

[steel mica]

Its not about facing the enemies head on...
its about the fact these enemies dont emit a damn sound as they sneak up on you, lox and bears are the fucking worst

If you see them head on YOU WILL BE ALERTED

[granite grail]

Also if anyone wants a vile trophy I can donate one lol

[steel mica]

You're guard is up when you know they're there in front of you so jumpscare is not a thing

[pliant hatch]

Considering root armor didn't excist at the time....

Nope, I didn't have it.

[barren gyro]

Deathsquitos killed me the most I think. My stupidity for not using root harnesk. The times I did id always burn to death from a shaman.

[open bolt]

The log trolls 🤦‍♀️💀 they are the worst... so much range

[steel mica]

But once they sneak up behind you, its practically game over you're getting jumpscared no doubt

[granite grail]

Ohh I only played after the bear update lol

[balmy seal]

Easy enough to parry when you're sufficiently leveled

[steel mica]

I have quite sharp ears so I'm able to hear a deathsquito from a mile away

[barren gyro]

Great though if you're starting off and need fine wood or copper.

[pliant hatch]

I'm playing since H&H. So I've seen a lot worse.

Still, not as much as those who started playing even before H&H.

[steel mica]

Especially the fact im using earphones and not headphones

[granite grail]

I have only ever not worn root armor so I have never developed more then a mild irritation to deathsquitos XD

[barren gyro]

Fenris is my go too armor

Zoomies

[balmy seal]

I tend to skip bronze and iron armors entirely

I like being able to move

[barren gyro]

Oh?

[steel mica]

Light armor all the way

[open bolt]

True

[barren gyro]

Has the ashlands anything like fenris?

Ive yet to reach there

[steel mica]

Similar but not like fenris level of speed

Its a medium set

[pliant hatch]

It has light armor. But not like Fenris

[barren gyro]

Aww. Is fenris good to use there?

[granite grail]

I like wearing the fenris legs. Although the suit will never not look like pajamas to me xD

[barren gyro]

Or youd want more def?

[steel mica]

Fenris is always good IF you can avoid damage all together and are good at parrying and dodging

[open bolt]

Probably looks like pajamas because it's warm and fluffy 🐺

[barren gyro]

Yeah I like parrying with bucklers

[steel mica]

Otherwise mix and match or go full heavy

[barren gyro]

That feather cape i absolutely adore.

[steel mica]

I play heavy because im a greatsword main

[barren gyro]

I only reached mistlands recently

[steel mica]

Heavy + Magic

quite strong

[barren gyro]

I love the Kron

Krom

Is there more greatswords?

[steel mica]

Theres 1 more in ashlands

But with some specialtize

You'll know once you get there

[barren gyro]

Ive only got 7 fragments. So im close

[steel mica]

I will warn you... melee against 6th boss is quite difficulty

[barren gyro]

And Ive found her lair its literally on the border of ashlands a bonemaw came along and scared the life out of me upon traveling there. The one time the wind was actually in my favour

[steel mica]

And not for the weak

[barren gyro]

Ive been training elemental and blood magic

Only like level 25

[steel mica]

Melee against Queen is very doable but it mostly comes down to precise timing

and dodge rolling

[barren gyro]

My bow skill is also quite low

Friends keep recommending to level it.

[steel mica]

I would recommend going full magic if you're not confident against a boss that will be constantly in your face

But if you wanna go the masochist way, melee is the way to go

[barren gyro]

Yeah Im not looking forward to it all

[steel mica]

I would not recommend the krom against queen unless you're VERY precise with your timing

[barren gyro]

I've one last infested mine to clear later today

Oh no I won't be.

[steel mica]

The Queen does not leave a lot of ample room to get hits

[barren gyro]

I just enjoy it

[granite grail]

The queen was the longest fight for our group of 3. And she is SOO ugly bro xD Moder is beautiful I wish she had the name queen

[steel mica]

So time your hits right

[barren gyro]

Is she a bug?

[granite grail]

The queen seeker

[open bolt]

She's the queen of the seekers

[steel mica]

Yes

[barren gyro]

Ffs

[granite grail]

It's a hive

[steel mica]

The matriarch of the seekers

[merry pebble]

Yes but furtunately not that game breaking

[steel mica]

So yeah you'll be dealing with the big bad lady

[barren gyro]

Does she summon them to fight against you?

[granite grail]

Also be warned she will constantly spawn swarms of seekers to attack u so be very used to fighting them

[barren gyro]

Or just her?

Ffs

[steel mica]

She spawns ads

And the room is full of mist

[barren gyro]

I hate the soilders

I hate them so much

[steel mica]

So bring wisplight and materials for wisp torches

[granite grail]

No soldiers I think?

[steel mica]

She doesn't spawn them

[barren gyro]

Thank god

[steel mica]

Only seeker and seeker babies

[granite grail]

Real ones know a solider is easier then a seeker 😭

[steel mica]

But still annoying to deal with

[barren gyro]

Im still a baby

[open bolt]

Especially soldiers with stars. They are something else... 👀

[steel mica]

Many struggle against seeker

[granite grail]

Also poison resistant is a good idea

[steel mica]

Have you encountered one with a 2star?

[barren gyro]

Oml yes!

[steel mica]

Because I have...

[open bolt]

I think only once 🤔

[granite grail]

I did the queen fight with my root harnesk 😂 😭

[barren gyro]

Is root good in mists?

[steel mica]

Common dmg type is pierce yes

its good, even in ashlands

[barren gyro]

Oh wow

[open bolt]

I started to find seekers easy when I learned their timings. Soldiers are still kinda tough... even if I try to dodge. And they are so tanky.

[barren gyro]

Underrated armor

[steel mica]

Im a mistlander enjoyer so these things are not a problem for me anymore

Even the mist itself lol

[barren gyro]

Does that polearm himnalflf (idk how to spell) the electric one stun enemies?

[granite grail]

Himminafl

[open bolt]

The mist is still meh for me xD it's pretty but annoying sometimes haha

[steel mica]

The element is just a damage add on, not that the electricity itself can stun

All the secondary attack on polearms have high stagger

[barren gyro]

Can you tell me how to find the infested mines. Is there some significant sign or way to spot these locations from a distance other than just blindly looking for them. I always find the Dvergr camps but never any mines.

[dim trellis]

seeker try to trick you with their attacks 🙁

[barren gyro]

Awww, thanks for the clarification

[granite grail]

I'm okay with the mist. I just wish for the purpose of making a clear base area the wisp torches cleared the mist in a radius that went UP. I have an annoying patch thta is hanging above my wisp torches

[granite grail]

they come in the form of an abandoned dverger tower, or built into the valley walls. There will be 2 wisp toches on either side for the wall mines

[barren gyro]

I always get the dvergr

[open bolt]

They can be in abandoned dvergr towers, on the bottom floor, or in caves on the rock that have these high and long stairs usually.

[steel mica]

Theres 2 types
very easy to distinguish

The one with stairs are mostly found at the outer regions of your mistlands mostly near shores of the ocean

the second variant is the abandoned dvergr outpost, you'll recognize it with seekers flying on top of the outpost itself

[open bolt]

I think those are the two types of mines entrances.

[granite grail]

I love that they got 3 different summaries lol

[steel mica]

Its best to climb up the tall rock formations to get a better view of the landscape, and take general note of which direction the POIs are

[barren gyro]

But there's no like rock shapes that all have like a similar sizes indicating a mine? Other than the abandoned dvergr tower camps

[steel mica]

The one near the shores have 3 spikes jutting outwards

[barren gyro]

Like sometimes I'd be jumping rock to rocks looking around and cant see anything

[steel mica]

You'll recognize it once you get on top of rock formations

[barren gyro]

Ooo I didnt know that. Thank you

Are they big spikes?

[steel mica]

Yes

Bigger than most rock formations in the mistlands

So you wont miss them

[barren gyro]

Oh wow

I have been missing loads then

[steel mica]

Simply put

If you see 3 or more spike formations jutting outwards, its likely an infested mine

[barren gyro]

My friend was like nah you just find them. I was like that's like trying to find a needle in a haystack there must be a way

That's great to hear I really appreciate you telling me

[steel mica]

The thing to take note of is to never always be at ground level in mistlands, you're goal here is to find the 2 main POIs, dvergr outposts and infested mine, always be at the top of rock formations to get a better view of your mistlands

[open bolt]

Kinda like dungeons in other biomes, they have a defined structure, but they blend well in the landscape (plus, there's mist), so it can be confusing at first. But once you know the type of rock formation, it will be easier to find.

[steel mica]

Only go down when you're making your way to a different rock formation or to a POI

[barren gyro]

That was exactly what I said to him 😂 that other locations have them so why not here

[open bolt]

Just make sure your HP is always above 100, in case you fall 👀

[steel mica]

If you can rush feather cape

Best thing to craft early on in mistlands

[open bolt]

Yeah, that too

[barren gyro]

Oh god I'm really doing it wrong Ive been blindly running around the ground floor

Mostly chasing the hares 😂

Then running into gjalls and seekers. Ultimately my deaths

[steel mica]

Many complained about mistlands because of well... the mist, that's because "You just aint doin it right!"

[open bolt]

Ground is good/essential for some resources. But maybe not so good for POIs. Unless you are near the sea or in certain areas where there's usually less mist.

[steel mica]

The... ground?

OH I SEE

[barren gyro]

The jumping potion is also a necessity for the mistlands.

I love that so much

[open bolt]

Like, ground level. As opposite to being in high places.

[steel mica]

yeah you'll be down there from time to time getting necessary resources

[granite grail]

I thought it was best to always be low bc if you're high you miss everything 😭 I also didn't know the mines had markers xD

[open bolt]

Mistlands and Mountain are the best biomes to lvl up Jump 😂😅

[steel mica]

A lot of people hate mistlands to the point some quit because of that biome specifically and I do not blame them

[granite grail]

It's the most beautiful biome tho

[barren gyro]

I wish the wisp cleared more so its easier to see ahead of you

[steel mica]

Mist is such a nuisance but its practically nothing to a lot mistland enjoyers

[open bolt]

Yeah, I was gonna say that too. It is very beautiful.

[barren gyro]

I hate sailing in mistlands

Cant see anything in front

[steel mica]

Sail the edges

[barren gyro]

Im on xbox cant do any mods

[steel mica]

Sailing IN the mistlands is never a good idea

you're bound to get jumped by flying bugs

If not a soldier

Or worse...

The flying tick.

💀

[barren gyro]

My friends said to bring all my bars down to get ready to sail to the ashlands

[open bolt]

I usually find a dvergr port and leave my boat there like forever...
then basically I just move with portals between my base and the important places in the Mistlands.

[barren gyro]

I died several times on the journey

[steel mica]

I hope they fix crossbow level up and add an extra speed for reloading

Once level gets higher and higher

[barren gyro]

Yeah 2 flying seekers came over 1 blue 1 star hit me so hard I fell over board and took 3/4 of my hp and the other then killed me in the water.

[open bolt]

Hum... the Ashlands are still a little far away at this point, since you have to finish the Mistlands. So I wouldn't say to bring all of it now. You might need to bring some materials by boat for the extractors tho.

And even for the Ashlands, I don't think you will need all your stuff. Just some essentials.

[barren gyro]

The plan is to take on the queen tomorrow 😂

[open bolt]

I see. 👀

[barren gyro]

I have 7 fragments and I found another mine recently

[open bolt]

Then the Ashlands are getting closer haha

[barren gyro]

All my gear is rank 3

Carapace / magic etc

[steel mica]

iirc
(0)Seeker = greyish
(1)Seeker = purple
(2)Seeker = red

(0)Soldier = greyish
(1)Soldier = purple
(2)Soldier = blue

[barren gyro]

I may be color blind

[open bolt]

Aren't the blue ones the one star?

[barren gyro]

I always mix up blue and purple

[steel mica]

Both seeker and soldier for 1stars are purple

correct me if im wrong

but for their 2star counter parts they have different colors

[quasi night]

I met a soldier 2 earlier today who was purple

[barren gyro]

How come lox and some other creatures like abomination dont have stars?

[open bolt]

🤔 maybe I am remembering wrong.. but I have seen many more blue and almost no purple. And I have this memory of 1star being a pretty blue color.

[quasi night]

1 star soldiers are more blueish

[steel mica]

Wait let me check the screenshot

[quasi night]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Seeker_soldier

[open bolt]

Yeah, that's it!

[steel mica]

No you're right 2star soldier is purple

[barren gyro]

Do they have a trinket for their trophy? If so is it any good?

[steel mica]

#screenshots message

[open bolt]

The purple ones are also much darker. Black and purple.

[steel mica]

I was wearing silver gear that time

Early mistland exploration

[quasi night]

nope, and that's good because they really don't want to drop their trophy ^^

[steel mica]

Only useful for respawning the queen

[barren gyro]

Is it as rare as the golems?

I have only ever found one golem trophy

[open bolt]

Or decoration UwU

[steel mica]

Oversized turkey

[quasi night]

it's 5% chance on a mob you don't met everywhere so...

[steel mica]

Food decoration

[barren gyro]

Are all trophy's 5%?

[open bolt]

Now i can't unsee the turkey

[steel mica]

I believe so

[barren gyro]

Oh wow

[quasi night]

according to the wiki, some 5, some 10

[steel mica]

The rest feel common because we just encounter the enemies a lot more meaning more chances for trophy

[barren gyro]

Im trying for the Vile trophy atm

[steel mica]

Compared to something like a vile

[quasi night]

Guys, magic is so fun. I slept on it since Mistlands release because royal jelly was a non-renewable ressource, but now I'm trying it. I just took a 2 star soldier, then 2 gjall at the same time, then an entire fuling camp without sweating. skelly + bubble is so good for tanking

[warm sphinx]

Trolls are 50%

Serpents and bonemaws are pretty high too

33%

Deer are also 50% because otherwise Eikthyr would be insanely annoying to reach

So no they aren't nearly all 5%

[placid delta]

are portals proximity based? say you have 2 connected to 'Home' and you move 100m away and set up 2 portals and name both of them 'Home' (so now there are 4 portals tag set 'Home').. they connect to each other .. is this intended behavior?

[tacit crystal]

You can name portals the same but only 2 can connect to each other.

[placid delta]

so the first 2 portals would be considered null?

[balmy seal]

Only one name per connection

[tacit crystal]

If you have first 2 portals with the tag they stay connected to each other and next 2 named the same are connected to each other.

[balmy seal]

Even with the exact same name?

[placid delta]

correct .. this is what I was asking as intended behavior ...

[tacit crystal]

Yes, or even without the name/tag.

[tacit crystal]

It seems intented, only 2 portals can connect, no more than that.

[placid delta]

So to farther expand on this ... if 'Home' is set in Meadow and 'Home' is set in BF ... then add a 2nd set 'Home' in swamp and 'Home' in Mountain .. the 2nd set would connect to each other and the 1st set would connect to each other ...

Meadow>BF ... Swamp>Mountain ..

[balmy seal]

Interesting. I hadn't realised you could use the same name. I figured they just wouldn't connect

[placid delta]

but all tagged 'Home' ..

[tacit crystal]

They won't connect to the already connected pair of the same name/tag.

[balmy seal]

Yeah, but I thought the other two with the same tag wouldn't connect.

[tacit crystal]

They connect in order they're build and named.

[placid delta]

thanks

[light gyro]

is it true valheim has chickens

goddamn it i was fooled all these years

[tacit crystal]

Did someone say otherwise?

[light gyro]

i completed the game 9 times and never encountered any sign of a chicken

[balmy seal]

Surprise!

[light gyro]

i saw a tiktok tutorial and thought it was a mod

[balmy seal]

You buy eggs off Trader after a certain point.

[light gyro]

the blue lil guy?

[balmy seal]

The OG trader, yeah

[placid delta]

Haldor after you defeat Yagulth

[light gyro]

ima assume after plains

[light gyro]

ahh W

[tacit crystal]

Also they can be obtained without Haldor: ||bottom level of sealed towers||.

[light gyro]

ooo

[hazy widget]

Ok why the hell did nobody tell me about the Dundr.

I've completely skipped over that weapon, and it's so freaking cool.

The sound design, the way it loads, the way it just completely DISINTEGRATES whatever is in front of it.

[nocturne wolf]

you have to be careful reloading it, if you interrupt the reload you still lose the eitr

[hazy widget]

That's fine

I use it as a fight opener with a non magic setup

Flametal armor, Mistlands and Plains feasts, and either a health food or an eitr food.

[grave crow]

chickens are the best tameable

no contest

everything else is tedious or not needed much (idk about askvin but that mob is more of a bitch than lox)

Ashlands seems to be more catered to mistlands non magic builds at the start

[nocturne wolf]

why can charred warriors spawn randomly with 2 stars at day but not twitchers or marksmen

[tacit crystal]

Randomly, or in one time spawn points?

[nocturne wolf]

random spawns, not spawn points

[steel mica]

Fastest tamable mob
More dmg, health than a lox
Easier breeding
Can piggyback ride each other
NO CREATURE LIMIT

Only cons are that:
Annoying to capture
Lategame
Getting the strongest variant is an absolute nightmare itself

[tepid prawn]

asks have a limit afaik

[tacit crystal]

Where it is stated?
Iirc I have encountered 2 star marksmen and twitchers from random spawns.

[steel mica]

They dont currently maybe in the future patches they might fix it

I just have a swarm of 2star bois and gurls defending my outer fortress

[tepid prawn]

I think in my pen I had a limit

if freerange you can get lots yeah

[spark plover]

just raided a fortress with 120 flametal ore, is that a lot

[steel mica]

My breeder continues to pump out eggs EVEN IF THE ROOM IS ALREADY BUSTLING WITH ASKSVINS

[tepid prawn]

on 1.0 resources thats above average

[steel mica]

I just let them out once it's starts to get cramped and I can barely move

[tepid prawn]

its not a raised one is it?

I might have to do some testing

[merry pebble]

Same limit as chickens, 10 within 10 meters

[steel mica]

Let me find my fortress base screenshot

[runic mural]

I'm new who wants to play with me (xbox)

[steel mica]

Here's the fortress base:
#building-screenshots message

Here's the asksvins just jumping a summoned troll outside my fortress:
#screenshots message

[nocturne wolf]

it's not on the wiki but I've looked in the spawn data and you can simply test this in-game by increasing the level up rate excesively, the random spawns will only have one star

[steel mica]

At that time the cage was full from ground to ceiling with asksvins

[spark plover]

try #1024264966712340510

[tacit crystal]

Interesting.

[tepid prawn]

does look like only 10/10m

[grave crow]

Ah thank goodness that’s good to know

I should try taming this run 😈

[hazy widget]

I was thinking of something insanely cool. What if... given that the portal shown in the last Bloodtooth entry is the final boss arena entrance, when you... the player goes through that portal, you find a frozen Hervor Bloodtooth, holding something important, that the player needs to face the final boss?

[thorny saffron]

would be cool if they refereence hervor bloodtooth

*reference

[silk token]

id love it if hervor clearly explained it on a runestone and people died over and over frustrated not knowing how to beat the boss because they never read any runestones (leo dicaprio meme)

“i have the spear. finally. i can slay the beast and be free of this place” shes frozen in place holding a spear in a throwing motion you have to take and throw into a point on the boss to make it vulnerable or similar

[steel mica]

Believe me theres more than just 10 in that area lol

[tepid prawn]

its more than 10m so yes

[steel mica]

If not every single direction is surrounded with asksvin

[tepid prawn]

it should be same as chickens with the difference that chickens are a "bit" smaller than 2 star asks

[steel mica]

The south and west particular has alot just chilling at the loaded area

I love mutated necks

[tepid prawn]

also if they are free roaming they can belong to other zones etc

[steel mica]

Everytime the fortress is cramming with asksvins I just let them out so yeah they roam around guarding the areas around the fortress

They roamed quite a ways because I was digging a moat

Which gave them ample time to move away from the fortress

Digging a moat through lava IS

possible but requires PATIENCE and an asksvin

[ebon rune]

I need Starred Chickens

[grave crow]

yeah i second this

[steel mica]

Just make a chicken breeder at this point 💥

[eternal blade]

a two-star one might peck a greyling to death

[ebon rune]

My chicken coop is fancier than my house.

[steel mica]

They could IF they could attack in the first place

[ebon rune]

A chicken can kill a man IRL

[steel mica]

If they hit any major arteries

[silk token]

they can leap…. uh…. LOOK at the BONES!!!

[lone rampart]

They do attack. I used to have one that escaped the coop and chased deer all over the village

Sadly the boars weren’t as easy to spook.
Godspeed Magellan!

[ebon rune]

Never mess with the wild swine

[grave crow]

oh magellan... what a majestic fowl

[lone rampart]

Truly the bravest warrior of us all. She roosts in Valhalla now!

[strange cradle]

😄

[gray sand]

Cats in Valhalla: OH! Odin brought us a tasty bird!

[zealous echo]

Anyone else play valheim on Xbox or PC? My xbox gt is DapperDamon if anyone is interested

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[strange cradle]

Magellan: I'll show you who's boss!

[gray sand]

Also thank you for telling us that Valheim is an open-world survival game 😄

[strange cradle]

TBH, we need a real rooster who can fend for his chicks. And, yes, that one need to be starred. A two star rooster vs... eh... a greyling?

TBH, I would be pretty scared if a rooster did attack me. 😉

They don't have those spikes for nothing.

[gray sand]

No, because people would inevitably start cockfighting rings...
So just no, plz.

[strange cradle]

Odin, I don't even think that far...

That's why we can't have nice things... 😛

[gray sand]

Correct.

[strange cradle]

You're one spoilsport, Mr. or Ms. or whatever Sevrahn.

[lone rampart]

Sev is why we can’t have nice things? That was mean of you electric!

[strange cradle]

Hey! I'm jus' sayin' as I seez it!

[gray sand]

Yes, thinking about how people will abuse things and protecting them from being abused is.. spoiling. 👍

[steel mica]

Oof that sucks, atleast they fought to the bitter end

[zealous echo]

Did u know valheim is online? Lol 😆

[steel mica]

One angry chicken

[strange cradle]

You take this much too seriously, @gray sand 😉

[lone rampart]

She has a tombstone in the village made of a buried stone throne. And a chicken leg on an item stand for I am twisted

[steel mica]

LMAO i did not expect the chicken leg

[lone rampart]

I’ll try to remember and snag a screenshot when I get home

[steel mica]

Hey atleast you can recognize its her tombstone easier 😅

[strange cradle]

I do like the idea.

[gray sand]

🤔

[lone rampart]

Oh I have one! #mods-screenshots message

[gray sand]

💊

[strange cradle]

Why is it always dark AND raining in these screenshots!

[lone rampart]

You hush. I posted in the right channel!!

[strange cradle]

Aaaaah!

[lone rampart]

It was for cinematic effect

[strange cradle]

😛

[gray sand]

This would be why I took my meds immediately 😁

[strange cradle]

😄

[cosmic summit]

Because during clear weather we're in such a rush to get things done that we forget to take screenshotd

[dim python]

death loop in the swamp...

death loop closed

are swamps worse than usual death loop wise

[gray sand]

Not really?
Only worse part is perma-wetness.

[paper marsh]

Semi-unrelated but I know most vikings hate being wet, yet I often intentionally take a dip in bodies of water for the fire resist from wetness (and practically fire-immunity while in the water)

[silk token]

i think swamp is just an increase in general of things that want to hurt you and dont just diddle around throwing rocks

[steel mica]

Swamp can throw anything at me I'll KEEP ON COMIN just the wetness is annoying 😭

[stable anvil]

i like the mountain

[steel mica]

Its a contest between swamp and mountains

But personally mountains

[thorny saffron]

its mountains for sure

swamp is in no way forgetabble

[paper marsh]

I'd generally say Mountains, but idk the frost caves are pretty memorable for me

[silk token]

the music alone

[thorny saffron]

fuck i can hear the mountains music in my ears rn

[silk token]

idk how people dont like the swamp, it’s very high up there in my favorites. so many diverse enemies and vibes, iron makes everything you could want, new light and heavy armors, building with stone, its got everything

[warm sphinx]

I wish it wasn't so easy to drown surtlings. They should have an indestructible rock under their geyser. Would make the terrain a bit more interesting too

[steel mica]

I hate the biome, but the progression there is very nice so im kinda neutral towards it

[steel mica]

Wont matter because they really like walking into water 😭

Mistlands is just S+ for me

Bite me if you want to :3

[silk token]

whats so bad about it?

[paper marsh]

My favorite biome

[steel mica]

Permanent wetness
Quite dark
W A T E R

and most of the mobs being unreachable once they go under deep water

[steel mica]

The mistland enjoyers will expand

[silk token]

so you dont like the water because it hinders your movement, but mistlands is S+ 🤔🤨

[paper marsh]

what so bad about it?

[steel mica]

You get accessed to 2 very useful items
Feather cape and lightfoot mead

And even if you dont have lightfoot mead theres always eikthyr

The rocks and hills in mistlands can be advantageous aswell

[paper marsh]

I thought the gear in mistlands is rather unique and I really liked it. The magic is a bit OP but other than that top notch

I can see disliking the visibility and movement, not for everyone

What do you dislike about the mobs? I kinda like that there's not archers and such hiding behind trees ready to oneshot me from out of nowhere, but that the mobs are more melee oriented and the one ranged mob is huge and glowing and loud to warn you. Plus the fact the seekers can fly somewhat mitigates some forms of cheese

Fair, I was never big on aesthetics

[steel mica]

I WILL DEFEND MISTLANDS TILL THE END OF TIME GGRRR >;C

Im joking obviously...

Its not for everyone and I dont blame them

Especially the mist

[silk token]

im just like… complaints are visibility and mobility for swamp, yet mistlands awesome. lol HOKAYYYY

[steel mica]

Mist is by far the worst for many

[paper marsh]

I will say, a lot of people get frustrated with the short range on the wisplight, and I can agree with that.

Personally the mist doesn't really bother me so it's not much of an issue, but the fact that I don't even feel inclined to fight Yag before doing mistlands because the wisplight is a minor QoL increase is a bit sad

Yea I mean those are just for your base/outposts to give some visibility

Or for the queen fight

[silk token]

imo if they dont change the cloud balls, remove the mist entirely and make the wisplight reveal things. mushrooms, dwarven writing in dungeons, magical sparkle things leading to things, etc

[strange cradle]

I like Mistlands.

[steel mica]

The progression in mistlands is very rewarding because it nullifies the major issue in the biome and in some other biomes aswell movement, back in swamp you dont really have much option other than flattening the ground and having to deal with a -25% stamina regen, dont get me wrong I like the progression in swamp, a lot of nice things in there, huntsman bow, root harnesk, iron, longship, access to stone buildables, but man the progression in mistlands just catapults it to S tier biome for me

[barren gyro]

I wish the wisp removed all fog like the ones in plains.

[gray sand]

Fog =/= Mist

[barren gyro]

Same thing

[silk token]

meh. i get mobility progression, thats not as big an issue as the cloud balls. though i have to replace my jump key

[gray sand]

No, no they are not.

[barren gyro]

You're just splitting hairs.

You know what im speaking aboutn

[gray sand]

No, splitting hairs would be "they are spelled differently."
They are not the same because one is a magical phenom while the other is.... weather.

[barren gyro]

Why make things more difficult than they need to be

Jfc

[strange cradle]

I don't want to sound too harsh, but I feel most of the complaints about Mistlands is from people that want to rush the game.

[gray sand]

Why have walls in any game ever? Why not let me walk straight? Making turns is more difficult than it needs to be.

[steel mica]

I dont have much trouble with the mist to the point I'm just exploring comfortable without a wisplight and relying on sounds

[barren gyro]

Mate im not here to argue about silly semantics.

Grow up

[silk token]

its not fog and not programmed like fog. its these cloud balls that go away you cant separate fog into chunks of fog its not a physical thing

[pulsar mortar]

And from people that like to see things

[strange cradle]

You can listen.

[thorny saffron]

just increase the radius of the mistball and all of the probllems are fixedf

*fixed

[gray sand]

• Gets proven wrong.
• Diminishes other view by calling it silly.
• Diminishes other person by declaring they are young.

That tracks, yes.

[silk token]

hopping up a cloudy rock wall 90% of the time is not enjoyable gameplay. but swamp is bad because they properly designed a dark spooky swamp. its just crazy to me.

[strange cradle]

I'm ok with swamps as well.

[steel mica]

Mistlands is such a punch in the gut when it comes to progression, because you have to find 3 key items, dvergr extractor, yggdrasil roots, and soft tissue but once you get all those, that satisfying feeling is really good

Especially the feather cape

[spark plover]

I love mistlands and ashlands weapons, they feel way more unique than everything from the previous biomes

[silk token]

i dont want to rush the game i want to SEE the game.

[strange cradle]

I can listen.

And there's like large portions of the Mistlands that are completely mistfree.

[silk token]

at least give me progression so i can see the game

[strange cradle]

You can listen.

[silk token]

NOT IN EVERY SEED

[strange cradle]

Well, that's tough luck. I works on mine.

And I doubt it's not like that on most seeds.

[silk token]

so if i think the swamp is too dark i can just shut my eyes and listen for the drauger in front of the crypts

[steel mica]

It can be tedious and annoying at time in pre-mistlands especially without feather cape

[strange cradle]

You may be VERY unlucky on some very few seeds...

Swamps isn't too dark. If you don't go out at night.

Which is generally not a good idea.

[steel mica]

Wraiths

Will screw you over

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

[merry pebble]

On most seeds you can find places like that 🙂 but depends on luck if you find the particular mistlands that will have that

[steel mica]

Im a big atmosphere type of player

[silk token]

me too! and in mistlands my atmosphere is my nose grinding against a rock wall mashing jump

[steel mica]

The thing is about these mistless areas is that for practicality its not good because you may want to base near roots for easier sap access

[silk token]

weeeeeeeeeee. oh but after ive almost beaten the biome i can jump off high things so that makes it better

[strange cradle]

Mistlands has atmosphere in spades.

[merry pebble]

Why couldnt there be roots in the mist free areas?

[strange cradle]

There are.

[merry pebble]

I am aware 😄

[strange cradle]

I know you are. 😉

[silk token]

there are spades in mistlands? huh guess i couldnt see them

[strange cradle]

You don't need to. Listen.

[steel mica]

Some mistless areas have roots, some dont

[strange cradle]

For the spades. 😄

[steel mica]

So its a game of luck

I decided to just make a base near the shore to ashland waters because theres like 9 roots nearby 🥺

[merry pebble]

Yes, but your message made it really sound like you will not find any in the areas you might want to make base in 😄

[steel mica]

Mb :3

[merry pebble]

Nw

[steel mica]

Its definitely a nice area for building and wanting a nice view

[silk token]

you are a bajillion miles from the point. im not saying “wah i cant find dungeons” im saying “why can i just turn my monitor off and play this zone”

i like SEEING

[steel mica]

But if you're going for view just make a base at an island, for MAXIMUM atmosphere

[strange cradle]

YOU are a "gazillion" miles of the point. The POINT is NOT to be able to just rush through.

[silk token]

oh. my. christ. if i went slower, could i SEE????

[strange cradle]

You don't need to?

I see enough, funnily.

[steel mica]

Alrighty lads lets eat the chill beans here for a second

Not everyone likes the mist

[strange cradle]

We've established that... oh... like when Mistlands came out originally.

[thorny saffron]

fuck the mist but i feel its essential

[strange cradle]

It's the ONE divisive thing about Valheim.

[steel mica]

I understand that especially that im a mistlands enjoyer

[steel mica]

I mean it IS called mistlands for a reason

[strange cradle]

Mistlands is there for the atmosphere, for the scare jumps when you get ambushed by seekers, or, even worse, a Gjall.

[steel mica]

And progression

[strange cradle]

That's why the scarce visibility and extreme terrain is a must.

[steel mica]

Dont forget about progression the juiciest part of mistlands

[thorny saffron]

the mines are fun too

[silk token]

arite well i gotta go rush through the game by playing with my eyes open i cant handle how dumb this convo is

[steel mica]

Mistlands is like when you combine blackforest with its rich resources and diverse creatures with mountains and swamp with their mobility hinderance and visibility 10x

[strange cradle]

Really, chill. Not everybody is of your opinion, ok?

[steel mica]

I don't blame yacko for not liking the mist in mistlands, I've been there myself but slowly I've gotten used to it

[thorny saffron]

1. plains
2. mistlands
3. ashlands
4. swamps
5. mountains
6. BF
7. meadows

whats your ranking

mountains and swamps are interchangable imo

[strange cradle]

My initial problems with the Mistlands was mainly that I got overwhelmed too quickly, because I didn't know how to handle certain mobs. Once that was solved, I no longer had much problems with them any more.

[steel mica]

The mist itself is just a normal to me now no longer an annoying hinderance

[strange cradle]

Besides the queen. I STILL hate her.

[thorny saffron]

why do people hate the queen so much

[steel mica]

Remember our queen talk?

[thorny saffron]

i found her boss fight unique and fun

[strange cradle]

Because I can't block her.

[steel mica]

Shes a in your face type of boss

[thorny saffron]

sure she jumpscared me like 2 times but stilll

[strange cradle]

It's just dodge-rolling. The ONLY boss that needs it.

I HATE dodge-rolling.

[thorny saffron]

i played as a mage and it was moderate

[steel mica]

And she pressures with ads

[thorny saffron]

hardest of all but still moderate

[steel mica]

Not to mention the mist itself

[strange cradle]

That too, but that is manageable.

[steel mica]

Go try melee :))

[strange cradle]

Mist doesn't bother me.

[steel mica]

I promise you it will be more than moderate

[thorny saffron]

yeah i abandon melee when magic enters lmao

[gray sand]

1. Mountains v Plains
2. BF
3. Mistlands
4. Swamp v Ashlands
5. 50 feet of crap
6. Meadows

[strange cradle]

I just want to be able to reliably block her, without being sent into the next biome.

[steel mica]

Its absolutely stressful when she decides to PIN YOU AGAINST A WALL

[strange cradle]

Yes.

[steel mica]

But not for me

[steel mica]

#screenshots message

[strange cradle]

The problem is, if you can't rely on dodge-rolling to safe you (because you suck at it like me), then the Queen is a horrible fight.

[steel mica]

Go mage

[strange cradle]

Ok, my ranking is:

1. Meadows, Mountains.
2. Black Forest, Plains.
3. Swamps, Mistlands.
4. Ashlands.

I don't like Mage. Too squishy. If your shield breaks down, and it WILL the absolute most inopportune moment, you're toast.

[steel mica]

Carapace buckler can parry all her attacks, just down stand RIGHT BELOW HER LIKE UNDERNEATH HER CLAWS OR ELSE GET SHREDDED BY HER DOWNWARDS STRIKE

[strange cradle]

Yeah... try that with heavy armor.

It's not so easy.

[merry pebble]

Been there done that 😄

[strange cradle]

And you need to be the absolute master in parrying.

I'm not. Just like dodge-rolling.

[steel mica]

I fight her constantly with melee so no worries there

[merry pebble]

Parrying is really relatively easy in valheim 🤔

[strange cradle]

If you're sprightly and young.

I am not.

[steel mica]

Im sorry! 😭

[merry pebble]

And i am bad at games that need fast reactions 😄 even then i am able to parry here quite well

[steel mica]

Probably a game that has the most complex parrying mechanic I've heard of is probably mordhaw or something like that

[strange cradle]

The main problem with all the "good advice" is that you need to be young and have fast reflexes to pull all of that off.

[steel mica]

Give ultrakill a try :))

You'll like it... probably

[strange cradle]

You need to be fast and young to pull off dodge-rolling and parrying.

[merry pebble]

Ah, seems to be DOOM-like?

[strange cradle]

But then you can go practically naked.

[steel mica]

Very inspired by doom

The queen is not forgiving when it comes to breathing room and ample time for attacks

[strange cradle]

Yup.

[steel mica]

Especially when fighting her melee

Her attacks have quite a fast cooldown

Faster the lower her hp is

[strange cradle]

That's my main problem with her. I mean, I CAN defeat her. But I will die a few too many times.

And I don't have that problem with any other boss.

Fader is a piece of cake compared to the queen.

[steel mica]

Shes the most punishing boss out of all the other ones

[strange cradle]

Yup.

[steel mica]

I will admit

Even I gotten killed a few times

[eternal blade]

well, you can always go mage and spend 20 mins slinging fireballs from entrance

[steel mica]

Miss your swimg oop sorry bucko enjoy that 100+ dmg

[steel mica]

Thats the easy way out

The honorable way is to fight her melee

[strange cradle]

And then your shield fizzles out... and ded.

No health and and no armor to speak of.

[eternal blade]

entrance is safe

[strange cradle]

Unless you're rushed by seekers and your shield fizzles out at that EXACT moment.

[eternal blade]

you're right by the exit, you can bail out, refresh and nuke them with fulll eitr bar

[strange cradle]

You can do that... 😛

Unless it is blocked by seekers.

[eternal blade]

yeah, it's safe and cowardly. 😄 I didn't install Valheim to play Dark Souls

[strange cradle]

You need to have VERY good reflexes to pull that off, though.

Mage is just like a rogue in Valheim.

You need to be very quick and have very good reflexes.

Not for me. 😉

[thorny saffron]

magic is just more fun imo

[strange cradle]

It IS fun, if you can survive playing one. 😄

[thorny saffron]

valheim doesn't have an indepth melee system so i just go for shooting around fireballs

[strange cradle]

It's in depth enough for me.

[steel mica]

Boss in terms of difficulty (From experience)
1 - Queen
2 - Yagluth
3 - Fader
4 - Bonemass
5 - Moder
6 - Elder
7 - Eikthyr

[thorny saffron]

like if they add shit like combos then damnnn

weak point and shi

[eternal blade]

that is...totally not like magic plays out. You don't need reflexes, just situational awareness to run away whenever enemy comes close and just fireball them from medium distance

[strange cradle]

My boss list
1 - Queen
2 - Fader
3 - Moder
4 - Yagluth
5-6 - nothing
7 - the rest.

[steel mica]

The thing is in the context of the Queen boss fight

[strange cradle]

Well, doesn't alway work out that way-

[steel mica]

She can close the distance with her rush attack

[strange cradle]

And maybe I'm very bad with all that situational stuff. 😉

[steel mica]

So a good dodge roll can save you there

[thorny saffron]

never even tried dodge rolling until the mistlands lmao

for the ticks

[eternal blade]

eh....when you play it safe, you can stay in the arena entrance that's too low for her to reach you

[steel mica]

If you cant Dodge-roll > Parry > Block

[strange cradle]

For both dodge-roll AND parry to work, you need good reflexes and being able to judge her incoming attacks.

[steel mica]

Im not about to sit there and lob fireballs for like half an hour

[strange cradle]

And I obviously suck at both.

[steel mica]

You should be able to block her with a maxed out blackmetal tower shield can you?

[strange cradle]

I haven't tried that.

[steel mica]

I should check

[strange cradle]

I CAN block her... But the main problem is that she will send you flying into the next biome.

[eternal blade]

ironically, it's one of faster ways due to high damage uptime

[strange cradle]

I don't have that problem with any other boss.

[steel mica]

She'll be digging away from time to time

[strange cradle]

I think I will try my next fight with the BM tower shield. See how I fare.

[eternal blade]

not that often. You'll spend less time going back to her than dodging her attacks

[strange cradle]

It's funny how we went from how bad the Mistlands are to how bad the queen as a boss is. 😄

[sage furnace]

👋

[steel mica]

Hmm not for me atleast
It is the best way? I'd say yes
Is it fun? No obviously
Stress free? yes

[strange cradle]

I feel these are the two most contentious (is that a word?) things in Valheim.

[sage furnace]

Contentious is def. a word, rest assured lol

[strange cradle]

😄

[steel mica]

To be fair not being able to see and movement being hindered is a big deal

[strange cradle]

That's why.

Some have no problem with either one of them, some do.

I have no problem with the Mist, but I do with the Queen.

[sage furnace]

Queens be like that

[strange cradle]

Some feel the other way. Some don't like both.

[steel mica]

Im one of those that dont have problem with both

We need more people to like mistlands 🥺

[strange cradle]

True.

[steel mica]

Its soo beautiful

[strange cradle]

It is.

[sage furnace]

I think the important thing is if you like it, then thats all that matters.

[strange cradle]

True.

[steel mica]

Its no longer beautiful once you start getting mauled by giant insects

[sage furnace]

You'll lose alot of years worryin about pleasin others hahaha

[strange cradle]

Hehe

I rather fight seekers than lox. 😄

Lox hit soooooo hard.

And they're tanks.

[sage furnace]

But so fluffy

[strange cradle]

Yes... I really don't want to kill them!

[eternal blade]

There are two ways to fight lox. Ranged or black metal atgeir

[strange cradle]

BM atgeir ftw. It rules the plains.

[steel mica]

I rush krom so lox is quite easy for me

[sage furnace]

Very misunderstood creatures, Lox are. Its the eyes i reckon.

[strange cradle]

😄

[sage furnace]

😂

[steel mica]

Arbalest is so broken in the early biomes

[sage furnace]

ngl, I named my Lox Norbert

[steel mica]

Yeah just send over an 400 damaging bolt straight towards that unsuspecting lox 💀

[strange cradle]

Poor lox.

[sage furnace]

He doesnt have a very good life

[strange cradle]

I named my Ernie and Bertie.

[steel mica]

From experience the arbalest with bone bolt do around like 300 sneak dmg

[sage furnace]

But he's fed

[steel mica]

So quite BIG

[eternal blade]

sadly, crossbows are in bad place right now, because they come at same biome as magic...we could use plains tier crossbow, weaker than arbalest

[strange cradle]

That would be cool to have.

But I think bow users will go like... meh.

They're skilled at using the bow, they don't really need the crossbow.

[steel mica]

Thing is it'd probably need some tweaking for the crafting materials

Progression wise using iron and root this late is kind of weird

[eternal blade]

all you'd need is to make sure it uses black metal, and it would be hard gated behind Moder so no rushing for crossbow in earlier biomes

[sage furnace]

Iunno, Im always a fan for spears over bows in this game.

[steel mica]

Krom could use this aswell

[eternal blade]

true, but at least you can pick up sword skill earlier...

[steel mica]

Crossbow level is slower than bow's

[eternal blade]

yep, that sucks too

[steel mica]

They need to add a faster reload buff for crossbow skill

Or atleast allow reloading whilst running but extremely slowly

[eternal blade]

just make it stop but not interrupt loading

[light gyro]

meow

[steel mica]

I was gonna say it wouldn't make sense but realized we can just hold the bolt and strings in place

And continue the reload

[agile vapor]

Anyone know how to dig moats deep enough? I go down enough I just reach water and can’t dig further and then my drakker gets grounded

[sage furnace]

Seems accurate for the viking lore, Ditches only, no moats.

and lots of spikey sticks

[light gyro]

meow

[sage furnace]

How do cats like their steak cooked?

[steel mica]

Once you reach waters thats how far you can go

[light gyro]

medium raw

[sage furnace]

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrare

[steel mica]

You cant dig any further without going into the swimming animation

[light gyro]

oh it was a joke, i thought you genuinely asking

[sage furnace]

😂

You good

[agile vapor]

So i gotta leave the drakker in the ocean area and just use the longship in the dug out canal

[steel mica]

Or just destroy it

Faster way

[light gyro]

said the bad ending

[agile vapor]

no I was using the drakker for base aesthetic

[steel mica]

Hmm

[agile vapor]

I dug a wide canal up to my base

[steel mica]

You could still kind of fit it

[agile vapor]

Then dropped the drakker in and it was like NOPE

[steel mica]

With enough time and patience

[sage furnace]

Seems like a job for Josh/Letsgameitout

[agile vapor]

There’s no dev command to drain water in the area is there

[sage furnace]

Sea level? i dont think so

[eternal blade]

I hate Drakkar. I hope we won't have to use it to reach DN, because that fat cow is awful when maneuvering through anything more difficult than wide open ocean

[agile vapor]

Not sea level, just water in the immediate area like inland

[pliant hatch]

Nope. The water level is set at the same height all over the map.

[agile vapor]

And no way to dig deeper

[sage furnace]

Sea level, yea.

Not that im aware of

[agile vapor]

Without mods*

[sage furnace]

especially without mods.

[agile vapor]

Yea im not modding, i cheat enough with devcommands

[sage furnace]

Might aswell mod 😄

Trade that vanilla in for a frappe chino

[gray sand]

😬

[pliant hatch]

Land can be terraformed 8 meters up or 8 meters down from its surface.
Meaning you can actually end up below the water level, but eventually you will hit a "hard" surface you won't be able to mine.

[agile vapor]

Tar draining is a game mechanic

[gray sand]

Yes, specific to tar, and that is fine.

They do not need to delay release to completely overhaul all water on the entire map.

No, lol.

🤦‍♂️

[merry pebble]

Oh heeeeeell no. That would destroy your pc 😄 just try to spawn some tar with commands and after few you will feel the performence drop

[gray sand]

Spawning TarLiquid in the Ashlands is a hoot though.

[agile vapor]

I have a 1060 I’m bare minimum cpu

[gray sand]

Not really.

[agile vapor]

Long story short the drakker isn’t going in the canal

[sage furnace]

I mean.... They have these (albeit) really sad streams on certain maps but certainly not valid rivers with occasional rapids.

[pliant hatch]

Well, start a petition to postpone the release of this game with about 10 years, so the Devs can rework the entire engine and start the game from scratch.

They had a vision when this game was initially developed and in that vision there was no room for rivers.

[gray sand]

I don't want to.

[sage furnace]

You dont, but others do

[agile vapor]

Spent 2 hours terraforming for nada

[sage furnace]

respect all around to eachothers preferences

[merry pebble]

Imagine is all we can really do 😄

[gray sand]

And they are free to make that happen through their own efforts 🤷‍♂️

[sage furnace]

Tell that to captain doobie

[paper marsh]

Eh I wouldn't say it's magics fault. Crossbow is good for fighter playstyles that want some range. Magic doesn't work there because they'd have to give up health or stamina to get some eitr.

Real reason crossbow isn't as popular is because Bow is just brokenly OP. Crossbow is not weak, I'd actually say its very well balanced, bow is just too strong of an alternative

[sage furnace]

they just RIP'd their quest

[gray sand]

@agile vapor I believe in your ability to accomplish what you put your mind to.

[agile vapor]

nah I’ll just leave in the ocean port, I can leave longships for the canal

[gray sand]

Valid and fair.

[agile vapor]

Also, grausten roofing is buttcheeks

[gray sand]

That can be good or bad depending on how much one likes buttcheeks 😄

[dim python]

i don't understand the dark souls dislike

[agile vapor]

I can’t facepalm emote but you get the idea

[silk token]

ya kinda forces you to design a certain style, i dont particularly like it because i dont build giant cathedrals

[sage furnace]

🤐

[gray sand]

Why slap face when you can slap buttcheeks?

😏

[sage furnace]

.. Is that a question?

Its a question mark for sure

but whats the question

I dont like DS

Does it matter?

its just not my schtick

[ember panther]

Been a while since I played, did parrying get revamped again? It seems like my bronze sword Lv3 is just as good as a bronze buckler Lv1... so I may forgo making it altogether. Also dodge skill is a thing now? What's it do?

[sage furnace]

Wasnt telling Kate to zip it, just respecting their preferences while expressing my own.

[silk token]

oh god the worms! the can opened!

[gray sand]

Parrying was made free-to-use again. No stamina cost whatsoever.

Dodge skill reduced stamina cost, perfect dodge timing refunds stamina.

[ember panther]

Oh wow they made it like before but even better? Nice

[gray sand]

Stamina is now a non-issue in combat unless you genuinely try to run out.

[ember panther]

Bronze buckler used to parry everything then it got nerfed. Now im parrying trolls with a bronze sword feels kinda wrong but ill take it

[gray sand]

Bronze Buckler never got nerfed. It is still the single-largest defensive upgrade in the game.

[silk token]

that shouldnt have changed at all, nothing with block or parry armor

[hazy widget]

I love how I'm chopping a tree with my beserkir axes, and the chain lightning goes from the tree over to a nearby dvergr

[dim python]

are we talkin digging canals

[hazy widget]

can we PLEASE change how change lightning works for deep north.

[gray sand]

?

[dim python]

i need more neck tails i'm willing to dig some canals

[silk token]

i kind of love the lighting wym?

[hazy widget]

I love it too, but I hate how it chains to friendly npc's as well

[gray sand]

No it doesn't?

[lone rampart]

Why are you chopping wood with a mystical axe of untold power?

[hazy widget]

It's been an issue since beta ashlands, and when I pointed it out, it was deemed "intentional behavior" and cast to the side.

[gray sand]

You aren't randomly shocking your tamed animals with lightning axes.

[sage furnace]

Well... if its intentional.

[silk token]

ohhhhhHHHHHHHH

lightNNNNNNNNNNNNNing

[hazy widget]

no not tamed animals, dvergr

[gray sand]

They aren't friendly.

[silk token]

i read "lighting" 💡

[hazy widget]

tamed animals also get chain lightninged, they just don't take damage.

[gray sand]

Neutral =/= Ally

[hazy widget]

OR it's yet another bug

[agile vapor]

Why this lightbulb go shocky shocky type shit

[gray sand]

No, they are not friendly.
So they are not subjective to friendly-fire immunity.

100% intentional.

[lone rampart]

Dvergr regard us as mildly interesting stray dogs at best.

[dim python]

hey doobie are your canals deep enough for karves and lankskips

[sage furnace]

The best kind of lightbulb imo.

[hazy widget]

It's bad game design at best, diabolically evil at worst.

[gray sand]

Neither.

[hazy widget]

Or the other way around

[agile vapor]

Should be, I dug til I floated

[hazy widget]

you know what I mean.

[sage furnace]

Personal preference detected

[gray sand]

The only dverger who interact with you actively exploit you, so no it is not bad game design.

[lone rampart]

I really don’t

[dim python]

that will be my plan but i'm not sure it'll work 🫠

[lone rampart]

There’s always a choice to make when dvergr are nearby. Either take caution not to hit them by accident, or deal with the fallout

[hazy widget]

It's the same story when seekers got nerfed during mistlands. I thought they were perfect. They got nerfed to the ground, and I did an entire deathless run because the seekers just sort of danced around doing nothing.

[agile vapor]

Longships work in shallow rivers so it should

[hazy widget]

They are in a good spot now though.

[agile vapor]

Drakkers are just stubborn fat asses

[gray sand]

How does Haldor exploit you by selling you literal dirt and calling it "Ymir Flesh"? (confirmed by Smiffe if you need source)
Gee, idk that's seems entirely above-board...

[lone rampart]

It’s special dirt

[sage furnace]

Fertilized dirt

[silk token]

ya and he tricks you into crafting frostner

[hazy widget]

I kinda wish Valheim could do a "Terraria" and make AI changes depending on difficulty, so the super aggressive seeker AI from beta mistlands could be re-used again.

[lone rampart]

Home Depot sells bags of dirt too 🤣

[merry pebble]

Because it technically is indeed flesh of the giant Ymir 😄

[sage furnace]

Imagine, Home depot settin up shop with a bunch of vikings as their main demographic. 😂

[dim python]

admittedly sometimes some dirt is actually valuable 🌱

[agile vapor]

Because mythologically speaking his flesh became earth so yes he is dirt

[gray sand]

You can ask Smiffe directly and he can tell you, as he's said multiple times now, the dverger are not our friends.
In general they don't even care about the fact we are there. Haldor and Hildr exploit you for what they can get from you.

[lone rampart]

Do we have orange banners? I just had a wonderful, terrible idea

[gray sand]

So back to point: The fact they are not protected from "friendly" fire is intentional because they are not friendlies.

[agile vapor]

I just command spawn 999 coins at a time, HOW THEM COUNTERFEIT COINS TASTE FUCCKRR

[sage furnace]

upload the results to YT and ill subscribe

[dim python]

who is the black forest dwarf...?

[gray sand]

Haldor.

[merry pebble]

Yes we do 😉

[dim python]

oh no 😨 🫠

[sage furnace]

actually... are you hiring? 😂

[lone rampart]

You can do it! We can help!

[gray sand]

You're going to make the Lawn and Garden section aren't you... 😄

[agile vapor]

I’m building a Walmart next

[lone rampart]

With my MODS!

[gray sand]

🤢

[lone rampart]

Actually I was thinking of the lumber section. Stacks upon stacks of wood

[sage furnace]

Wulmart

[agile vapor]

Why the Home Depot music slap tho

[merry pebble]

Valmart* 😄

[dim python]

inb4 another mention of dprk

[sage furnace]

srysrysry... *Ullrmart

[lone rampart]

(Because I always changed it to the good station when I opened)

[gray sand]

Why Rain h8 me so much 😭

[agile vapor]

No the advertising music

[sage furnace]

cause you a big ray of sunshine! 😄

[merry pebble]

Valmart and Hearth&Home Depot xD

[agile vapor]

I still haven’t spotted Odin

[gray sand]

MistLowes.

Ash Hardware.

[sage furnace]

really? Caught him scoping me out two or three times.. Made me uncomfortable

[silk token]

he spotted YOU....

[dim python]

you know um.

can we accept that trade is inherently exploitative?

[gray sand]

BoarlyWorely - shop the pig 😏

[agile vapor]

I have passive enemies so I think that’s why I don’t see leviathans, snakes or other stuff

[sage furnace]

Always has been!

[dim python]

i'm so aware you would not believe

[gray sand]

@merry pebble I am trying here.

[hazy widget]

Uplifting message incoming.

[silk token]

probly also why odin hasnt honored you with his presence

[hazy widget]

If you ever feel useless or down.... remember the Linen cape exists.

[merry pebble]

Leviathans are not technically creatures 😄 so that one is just bad luck

[sage furnace]

As an agnostic, no i dont 😂 hahaha

[agile vapor]

He’s considered enemy?

[sage furnace]

Less moats, more plunderin'! lol

[cosmic summit]

Can it be hung on an item rack?

[silk token]

no i think hes just checking on his great warrors' progress

[dim python]

unfortunately moats almost serve goals of plunder

[agile vapor]

Bro bro bro

[hazy widget]

Doesn't equate usefulness

[agile vapor]

I did a funny yesterday

[sage furnace]

not wrong at all. But game sea levels are unwilling to accommodate protection of our plunder

[lone rampart]

I mean they’ve definitely got eyes if you dive under them! It’s scary AF

[gray sand]

Decoration is useful.
Just look at Frostner.

[agile vapor]

I accidentally launched my Jotun axe with the catapult and lost it

[sage furnace]

nice

[lone rampart]

Jump in and go after it

[agile vapor]

It went into the forest and I couldn’t find it

[sage furnace]

launch yourself and you'll find it

hyuck hyuck

[lone rampart]

Wait for nightfall and look for sparkles

[gray sand]

You are Bane saying "follow him" before shoving a guy down a pipe.

[agile vapor]

I was looking for sparkles

[merry pebble]

Oh they are supposed to be creatures lore-wise, but from games perspective they are ore deposits so they are not affected by passive enemies modifier 😄

[lone rampart]

Gotcha

[agile vapor]

I even launched myself and it wasn’t there

[dim python]

nature's goal is irrelevant to our greed. we do whatever we can get away with 😈

i'm gonna dig canals

[gray sand]

Dentists' favorite activity.

[agile vapor]

Also htf I can launch an axe but not a ooz BOMB

[ember panther]

Can you build on kraken?

[gray sand]

This game has krakens?

[mild mason]

^

[mild mason]

Like those floating leviathans?

[sage furnace]

Nature gonna cordycep us up before we know it.

[dim python]

tried, no.

[sage furnace]

and i dont blame it

[agile vapor]

Wait those things with the sea urchins on it are leviathans?

[dim python]

as a gnostic
*her

[ember panther]

Yea leviathan , theres one right between a slightly too wide river gap... would be nice to build on but alas

[gray sand]

I'm sure there's a #mods-discussion for ways to build on them.

[sage furnace]

If modders can make the first subnautica and skyrim MP - they can and will eventually do everything.

[pearl horizon]

Man, the difference between a raft and a karve is stark

[dim python]

you might be able to place moveable structures on them but not buildings or furnishings

[gray sand]

Everything except stop 😉

[silk token]

it moves up and down in the waves. pretty sure that goes against some sort of very very core element of building in valheim

[ember panther]

Rafts are so worthless, I refuse to make em. Karve is the best boat cause it turns on a dime

[dim python]

if they stop they're no longer doing everything

[agile vapor]

I built a workbench on a stick, fuck physics