valheim-chat

[dim trellis]

kill the fish

[gray sand]

I believe it does, same way it conflicts with Lingering Stamina.

[near saddle]

I also think it does, but I'll probably have to try it to be sure

[grave crow]

should i start a solo world while im waiting for my duo 🤔

[dim trellis]

if both of you have never played, i highly suggest to not

if you're in the middle already with your duo, playing not past your progression can be fun

[grave crow]

she is pretty new iron age level im a veteran

i havent played solo in a year

[steel mica]

New worlds are the best experience for multiplayer

So everyone can progress equally

Everyone just has varying level of experience of the game

[chrome badge]

It's always a good idea to have a solo forever world imo

Helps to stay in the flowstate haha

[grave crow]

i agree

lowkey just wanted validation XD

i enjoy playing too much atp i should just roll with it

[fossil delta]

Not fun to have your portal destroyed when your on the other side of an Ashlands island from your nearest citadel or base. At least it only destroys your fine wood.

[fluid cradle]

If someone understands the MISSING META problem could you maybe offer some help in #steam-bugs-discussion or #dedicated-server thank you for any help 🙏

[fossil delta]

BTW solo players, take note that I discovered it is possible to destroy your portal AND go through it at the same time. Fortunately I was not playing solo, and my wife was able to rebuild the portal.

[lean sphinx]

i just treat my forever server as my own server

when im by myself playing i just build or gather resources, not gonna explore more land solo

[young estuary]

Has anyone tried enshrouded if so how's the experience compared to this game?

[fossil delta]

Combat is pretty similar. Building is pretty similar, but over all better, imo. The world is very different, as is the over all game play. Going after a Boss is about the only similarity. It also has a lot of NPC's that you can attract to your own base.

I think it also recently came out of Early Access, but don't quote me on that.

Nope, its still an EA game.

[young estuary]

Yup they are planning a release this year

I have to say I'm a big fan of the valhiem style so i prefer that over enshrouded graphics but the game is pretty appealing

[fossil delta]

Enshrouded has yet to grab me like Valheim has, so not going to say its a better game. Not for me. Not yet, anyways.

[steel mica]

I've done this especially when travelling really far and I dont wanna run back

So I just lower the hp of the portal dead, lob a fireball up in the air or drop down a fiery troll and sprint to the portal

[sharp bluff]

its has functioning water and a linux native build

[elder hearth]

It’s been nearly 2 years since Ashland’s was released… Deep North should be ready by now.

[elder hearth]

I find Enshrouded is a one time game. Can’t see myself doing the same quests over and over. Valheim is truly open world and unique layout each time.

[granite grail]

Just curious......have you ever programmed a game? Do you have personal expierance of the time, effort, and trial and error that goes into it?

[elder hearth]

Actually yes and I now specialise in 3d modelling.

The hard work is often the base code which I believe look them about 3 years completing 5 bios.

[pseudo coral]

Sorry to intrude on what’s about to go down- how is 3D modeling? Been thinking of getting back into it.

[granite grail]

That's cool. But still, it doesn't give you the right to assume what the devs for Valheim should or should not have ready. They have lives and it's the final update. I want them to take as long as they want becuase I know it will be even more amazing that way bc it won't be rushed

[elder hearth]

How long are you willing to wait? Mistland and Ashlands took less so by all accounts Deep North should not take much longer since the team has expanded. I’d. Guess we will see it by Summer. So the full game goes out on Switch 2.

[near furnace]

again this dumb thining = more developers = faster content

it does not work like that

it's more developers = more meetings = less production time = same amount of production time in the end total

[elder hearth]

More devs often help to find solutions to problems quicker

[near furnace]

no

adding 200 graphics designer does not solve network issues

or 200 programmers can't solve a news letter to players

[elder hearth]

Well as with everyone if you are stuck with a problem ask for help. 2 heads better than one.

[near furnace]

not really tho

[mint phoenix]

Eh I'm not going to complain cause the game only costs 20€ and it has a lot of content even without the deepnorth

[near furnace]

thank you

[elder hearth]

No really tho what?

[near furnace]

deep north will be out when it's finished and we feel it's done for the players to start playing without bugs and balance issues

until then. it will sadly be some waiting

[elder hearth]

Ohh I totally agree the game has been under sold on the price.

[mint phoenix]

I'll be happy as long as visibility isn't an issue in the deepnorth

[storm sinew]

A lot of stuff you can do while waiting for deep north, getting trophies, building bases in separate biomes, collecting all gears and upgrading them to max
Probadly the most challenging part is exploring your world, dont leave a single unexplored place

[pseudo coral]

Yeah, this argument kinda seems redundant. The games amazing as is, everyday I learn something new, and now I run server clusters because of how optimized it is server side. I mean, glad there’s gonna be more, but take your time

[granite grail]

As long as I have too. If you're bored just start a new world and try doing things differently. Switch out your armor or weapons or whatnot. I don't need the update to love the game. I don't really want it to be here becuase when it is it means there's an ending and I don't want it to end yet

[mint phoenix]

Or crazy idea play something else whilst waiting. It's not like there aren't any other good games out there.

[elder hearth]

Agreed I can’t recall the last time this game crashed.

[tacit crystal]

It's always an option to play other games meanwhile, like I have partially done.

[near furnace]

the thing is the old argument that doesn't work is More developers = faster development

[wanton hearth]

the game crashes around every 6h for me

[near furnace]

more developers = more ideas = more content (yes)
but not faster

[tacit crystal]

Vulkan has some crashing issues since celebratory update.

[elder hearth]

Valheim inspired many dev teams to include base building.

[near furnace]

the current "cycle of crashes" are all GPU drivers

AMD graphics cards and Vulkan is really bad

[pseudo coral]

Yeah, we get that. Or at least most of us do. And they can take as long as they need.

[near furnace]

Nvidia has the same issues with vulkan, but not as bad

[near furnace]

yeah.
and 2 programmers = twice the speed, but also twice the amount of discussions also on what sollution is the best for a fix

and more meetings to make sure everyone sticks to the plan

[wanton hearth]

yes, it's GPU crash for me, weird flickers happens, nothing becomes visible, but i can still hear everything in the game and move around

[near furnace]

ouch

do you run with or without vulkan?

and what GPU do you got?

[wanton hearth]

AMD, not sure about vulkan

[near furnace]

right click valheim in steam library -> properties

[wanton hearth]

yes

[near furnace]

change launch option to DX instead

I mean "play valheim"

since it will be Direct X 11 instead

[fossil delta]

I had my first crash in years a few days ago. Not sure why, but it generated a report, and its been fine since.

[granite grail]

I have played fine up until joining a new world ;-; the lag is so bad I cant even get to my door bc it runs me around in circles. The server is NA and I'm in the U.S so I'm hoping my internet is just suddenly absolutely terrible today

[storm sinew]

An iron gate inside a sunken crypt?

Is this rare?

[tacit crystal]

Rare reminder of developer studio.

[granite grail]

I saw one of those for the first time the other day. They are pretty rare

[keen trench]

yeh i found my first and only last year and tough of a bug, must be very rare

[near furnace]

I would say very rare

[worn steeple]

Yes it is very rare. 5.2 k hours, 5 years, seen that 4 times in total.

[storm sinew]

I just realized, if you destroy that gate, its 4 iron for free

[near furnace]

I think I saw them more often before 🤔

[wanton hearth]

i saw 2 such crypts from around 20 crypts that i've cleared

i was excited for a bit, but there's nothing interresting inside

[vivid kiln]

Well hey there...how're you?

[wanton hearth]

oh

[strange cradle]

I've NEVER seen an iron gate INSIDE a crypt. Wow... And I explored some crypts...

[worn steeple]

Same. Next run will be an older seed, I like those better than newer ones by more reasons

[strange cradle]

That's totally new to me... Didn't even think that was possible.

[near furnace]

what wasn't possible?

[storm sinew]

Yeah, i was like "free 4 smelted iron"

[strange cradle]

An iron gate inside the crypt.

[near furnace]

oh

[strange cradle]

Never seen one.

[worn steeple]

🫡 Good thank you

[wanton hearth]

does the game have some secrets that a game can't pick with wishbone? For example i find some rare and weird looking stone, wishbone detects nothing, some part of me wants to mine it out and dig below, but the other part of me wants to preserve the rare rock

[strange cradle]

And I've explored a number of crypts... oh well...

[strange cradle]

Only one way to find out...

[worn steeple]

They layout on older seeds was better, larger biomes and not small patches scattered all over. May be bad luck after Mistlands came, or the world-generator is getting tired 🤔😅

[wanton hearth]

yes, but i don't want to destroy an "artifact" for that reason

[strange cradle]

Make a copy of your world that you can then restore.

[wanton hearth]

i won't

[strange cradle]

🤷‍♂️ Your call.

[wanton hearth]

i never abuse the save system

[strange cradle]

No abuse there.

Why would it be?

You just want to see something for yourself.

[strange cradle]

Honestly, I doubt this was changed. I put it more on RNG.

[wanton hearth]

it's a call like IRL, i rather keep it a mystery

[strange cradle]

Again, your call. 🙂

[wanton hearth]

let's bulldoze the pyramids, just to see what's inside

[worn steeple]

As I said, maby just bad luck.

[strange cradle]

I can type in the seed of my main world that I first created four/five years ago, and it will create more or less the same world.

Except for the changes in Mistlands and Ashlands.

These WILL look different, of course.

[wanton hearth]

how rare is to find that "barnacles turtle island" near the shore? i only saw it once

[strange cradle]

They're pretty common.

But it does depend on RNG, as usual.

[wanton hearth]

do they spawn in the same or nearby location or this is RNG?

[strange cradle]

I think it's randomly near coasts.

But don't rely on that.

[worn steeple]

Yup. I have a list of insanely nice seeds, what I dont like about that is that I know where to go, kinda takes the fun out of it 😑😅

[strange cradle]

I can understand that. 😄

Well, even on my main world, there is still so much stuff that I can explore, I won't run out of new continents to find for years.

And I usually make it habit to explore every continent in its entirety.

[near furnace]

you do know that everytime we update the map generation. old seed codes usually becomes invalid? :/

[wanton hearth]

i'm doing "no boats" challenge atm, because my current seed allows it, big starting island

[near furnace]

how does that challenge make it possible to get into ashlands? 🤔

[strange cradle]

Well, the old seed for my world still generated by and large the same world.

[near furnace]

oh?

[strange cradle]

Again about four/five years old... well, when Hearth and Home came out.

[wanton hearth]

I might be able to, i'm very close to it, didn't explore yet

[strange cradle]

Yes, Mistlands and Ashlands are different. As they should. But the rest is... almost the same.

[worn steeple]

😳 No I didnt, but ok - the hunt continues

[strange cradle]

Ok, I'm just recreating my old world again... for science.

Seed: Pct2NspXkR

Looks pretty similar from the Forsaken stone circle. I'll venture next to the location of my farm.

[wanton hearth]

#screenshots message

the south isn't explored yet. I didn't reach the edge of it

[near furnace]

nice. but I have my doubts 😄

[wanton hearth]

north, west and east is cleared tho

will see, i hope i can

[strange cradle]

Yep. Looks almost the same.

The old world didn't have the stone circle, but otherwise it's very similar. Even the oaks are where they should be.

[worn steeple]

Ill check my first world later when Im on the pc, that one is about 5 years. Havent been on that for ages, but still have it so a re-roll would be fun.

[candid sorrel]

Anyone know where I can find people to play valheim with?

[worn steeple]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

Ive also seen some asking for people on steam and facebook

[candid sorrel]

I see, thank you!

[strange cradle]

I just checked an older version. Continents are largely the same, except where Mistlands is involved. My old farmhouse spot is very similar.

[near furnace]

something I've seen is the starting poing "drifting" sideways when I re-use them 🤔

[worn steeple]

Ive seen trees and rocks floating.

Like this #screenshots message

[near furnace]

looks like the old mistlands biome move

[strange cradle]

THAT looks really weird.

[near furnace]

seen it before

when we moved things and it changed live maps

[worn steeple]

Trees will fall to the ground eventually, smaller rocks aswell but the huge ones will stay in place. Not sure how old this seed was but cant be that old cause its one of the newest ones on my list, I accidentally loaded wrong map last time we updated the modded world a few weeks back - when the mod-bug came

[near furnace]

takes a little while things falls down

but those BIG rocks never fall

[worn steeple]

Yup, kinda cool 😅

[near furnace]

you can build your flying castles on them

[worn steeple]

It crossed my mind, but for too many projects atm. One day, maby

[granite grail]

I know it's a glitch but man, that is so beautiful 🤣 It's the mysterious, randomly occurring Cloud Biome haha

[worn steeple]

Its fascinating 😊

[tacit crystal]

IIRC breaking those gates inside crypts won't drop iron.

[steel mica]

Should I work on my mistlands base? 🤔

I used dev commands to clear mist so I can see towards the ashland oceans and have a view of my base

[abstract warren]

Well you already started cheating so just do whatever you want at this point... 😏

[storm sinew]

Oh really, oh well, can get more iron through the piles, so cool seeing gates like that in crypts, you can use it against the draugrs and shoot arrows at them

[bold bane]

hi guys im curently in mistland, i came upon few ruins with stairways leading to no where

supposed to have infested mines below but its just stairway leading to the ground, i tried mining below but there is no mines below

[pliant hatch]

Those do occasionally show up.
Not all ruins lead to an infested mine. (as you have discovered yourself.)

[bold bane]

thats so scam

[wanton hearth]

man, iron is in a constant shortage, specially once in mist

and i cleared every crypt reachable without boats

is it worth to dig iron with wishbone?

digging feels like a lot of work with little rewards

[strange cradle]

IMHO it's not worth it.

I mean, how much iron do you REALLY need?

[storm sinew]

Iron will be demanding once you reach mistlands, had like tons of stocks of iron and just literally used all of it for the stuffs in the mistlands

[wanton hearth]

an extra 500 would be nice

and 300 more for the builds

[strange cradle]

Wow... I mean I find enough iron for my needs usually... but if you use lots of iron for building that can be a problem.

[wanton hearth]

500 is just for the gear, weapons, armor, staffs etc

[merry pebble]

None needed for armour, none needed for shields, none needed for staves 🤔

[wanton hearth]

Carapace breastplate, Carapace greaves, Carapace helmet, Arbalest, Mistwalker

[merry pebble]

Ah, true, only helmet doesent need any, but still needs only 10 for full set at lvl4 😄

Arabalest total 32 for lvl4 (not reachable while in mistlands anyway, so 20 iron really)
Mistwalker 75 iron for lvl4 (again, really only 45 while in mistlands)

[wanton hearth]

Arabalest is very much reachable

and i want it

[merry pebble]

I meant the lvl4 of it isnt 😄

[wanton hearth]

and i want demolisher too

[merry pebble]

Now that one will set you back 110 iron for lvl4 (while in mistlands you need only 65 for it 🙂 )

[wanton hearth]

157 (lvl 3) AoA seems pretty good

i guess it could target attached ticks right?

[merry pebble]

Not sure about that actually, but if you roll first they will detach and after taht it can certainly hit them 🙂

[pliant hatch]

No.

It's a design choice to keep the thrill of discovery there.

If every ruin with a staircase would lead to an infested mine, the thrill would be gone at some point, because you knew you're going to find a mine.

Same as some house ruins in the meadows have chests and some don't.
It makes it worth to check out each and every once of them, because there may be a chance you find something.
Instead of there's a guaranteed chance to find something.

[languid drum]

Any Oceania’s Valheim players?

[open bolt]

Does the skeleton spawner only spawn two skeletons at a time?

[merry pebble]

The limit is 2 or 3 iirc, so yep

[lone rampart]

You might search on #1024264966712340510 or make a post of your own

[open bolt]

I see... I was kinda using them to level up some combat skills, and I noticed only two spawn at a time. Never noticed that before...

[near furnace]

the game have limits on how many enemies that can be in the area at the same time

so they can spawn 0, or alot

[open bolt]

I see 🤔
Thanks!

[near furnace]

🫡

[strange cradle]

I wasn't even aware that material costs to craft an item are lower in Mistlands... wut?

But then I never built an actual Mistlands base.

[tacit crystal]

Do you mean buildable things like black marble or craftable equipment?

[strange cradle]

#valheim-chat message

"Now that one will set you back 110 iron for lvl4 (while in mistlands you need only 65 for it 🙂 )"

[merry pebble]

I put "while in mistlands" there because you cant get lvl4 black forge while you have only mistlands materials so you cant upgrade gear to lvl4 there. You unlock lvl4 black forge in ashlands. 😄

[strange cradle]

...

I am confusored.

Ah!

Ok, got it!

Sorry, I'm slow.

[merry pebble]

So the gear is not cheaper in mistlands, you just cant spend the materials on lvl4 there yet 😄

[strange cradle]

Yeah, now I got it.

[merry pebble]

No worries xD i know the feeling way too well

[obsidian citrus]

I'm looking for somone to play this game with anyone want to?

[merry pebble]

Look no further than #1024264966712340510 😄

[obsidian citrus]

thank you

[dim python]

i only ever found flint in chests

and apparently i need a lot of it...?

[lone rampart]

White oblong rocks along the water’s edge in meadows

[wind vortex]

i was looking into the detailed food and meads info, and when i looked at the food decaying section there wasnt any feast on there, does decaying not apply to feasts?

oh my god, im dumb, theres a different section for that 🤦‍♂️

sorry for tagging by replying to you scarlet

[odd helm]

No worries! Was about to say, I know that feasts do decay, but Sevrah would have the info about that better than I

[gray sand]

I try to make sheets that make sense 😭

Also hello Scarlet 👀👋

[wind vortex]

they absolutely do, they're amazing!

[umbral gate]

what are the best ways to farm serpent meat

[dim python]

thanks, dancer. 🕺

[tacit crystal]

Sail during night around ocean.

[umbral gate]

damn so my luck jus bad then, been doing just that

[tacit crystal]

Or better, don't try hunting them but decide to make trip from swamp to your base with boat full of iron.

Sometimes feels like RNG senses when you decide to really try do certain thing and you don't find them then.

[umbral gate]

thats the same rng as getting trolls spawn on you everytime you try to run a wagon full of stuff from place to place

[silk token]

also keep your head on a swivel they can spawn on the side or behind and never aggro on you and you’ll never notice them

[umbral gate]

yea im waiting on a double leviathon jus running round waiting for night time 🙏

[silk token]

sounds nice, like a little ocean picnic

[dim python]

i fed a boar five berries all at once. what now?

it doesnt appear to be happy anymore

[tacit crystal]

Is it tamed?

[dim python]

doesn't that take 30 minutes?

[tacit crystal]

They eat only 1 at once and continue eating from the stack when hungry again.

Also it needs to be not on alerted state (indicated with❗).

[dim python]

understood.

right now i'm consistent crouching a few yards away

[tacit crystal]

It will continue taming even if you decide to do some tasks around it.

Also as long as you are close enough (inside the active area which is 64 meters from player).

[umbral gate]

so far its 1 serpent every night, this is so slow 😭

[dim python]

@tacit crystal it's too dark to see the pigs now. should i be okay if i wait in the same place?

[strange cradle]

How much serpent meat do you really need?

Like, this is high level boss food. I would never waste it for just running around.

There's much cheaper food available for that.

[umbral gate]

I jus wanted to stock up really, I got enough for yagluth, mainly jus letting time go by so my barley can grow

[strange cradle]

Ok... then just don't... bother? Take them as they come? 😉

You will come across better food anyway later on.

[umbral gate]

fair enough

[worn steeple]

NO no no - let us hoard as we please 😂

[strange cradle]

😄

[dim python]

the boar attacked me briefly. did i fail?

[umbral gate]

did you..?

[dim python]

it didnt keep attacking me very long

[rapid bison]

Not sure if this question makes sense, but are players required for any area of the game to be active? mobs running around, farms growing, beasts getting tamed, etc. I'm wondering if certain objects can also keep a chunk or zone of the map from sleeping without us needing to be around.

[strange cradle]

Try running away, if it keeps attacking.

@rapid bison Players need to be around.

[umbral gate]

if you're talking about a greydwarf farm as an example, somebody gotta be there

but stuff that is planted will grow if you arent in that chunk, like barley or flax

[strange cradle]

True. Plants will grow. I forgot that.

[tacit crystal]

It will calm and taming process will continue from where it was at. Progression doesn't go backwards.

[prime moth]

doin a one life mapless run, finally got to elder

5 attempts lost to trees so far 😂

[dim python]

you're right, the boar i just found again with hearts

[umbral gate]

oh naw 😭

[dim python]

how do i tell once i'm done?

[silk token]

That’s about what it is honestly. Don’t make getting serpent meat a main goal, treat it as a nice bonus for sailing and exploring. Save it for boss fights or scary things.

[umbral gate]

alr fair enough

[silk token]

A message will appear like when you could eat more food, but will say “boar has been tamed“

[prime moth]

whats the least supplies heavy item i can use to parry abominations?

i guess i probably want bronze buckler for swamp regardless eh

[silk token]

ya bronze buckler is pretty great.

with a rank 1 bronze buckler you can parry an abomination with 50 max hp. with a rank 3 bronze buckler you can parry a 2 star draugr ELITE with 121 hp at zero block skill.

[terse raft]

sounds fun ! keep it up

[dim python]

the hearts are blue and opaque. is it done?

[silk token]

there should be no hearts of any kind when its done, and it will say "BOAR HAS BEEN TAMED" across the middle of the screen

[dim python]

i was worried the message appeared briefly and i didnt read it right

[silk token]

idk what blue hearts are honestly only ever seen yellowish ones, i dont tame much, but there shouldnt be any hearts above a tame animal, unless u have some mod that does that

[strange cradle]

Blue hearts mean... they... really love each other... Like REALLY. 😄

I don't think I need to be more specific.

[gray sand]

Apparently for some people, the yellow changes to blue as they tame and the amount of blue shows you have close it is.

I have never witnessed this, but it is what was explained to me.

[lone rampart]

I do wish you could see the taming progress from a little farther away. Trying to creep up close enough to see “97%” just to scare them is so maddening

[strange cradle]

Blue hearts are when they are breeding, no?

[gray sand]

No.

[strange cradle]

I'm pretty sure it is...

There's like a whole cloud of blue hearts going up.

[fossil delta]

I was hoping I was learning something new after 5300 hours.

[gray sand]

Monitor settings? My cloud is pink.

[strange cradle]

slaps hand to head - tips over

Could be pink.

I'm actually not sure.

[silk token]

there's like a poof of clouds when they breed, but whil taming its a steady trickle of yellow-ish

[strange cradle]

Yes.

I though the hearts where blue.

[fossil delta]

If I miss the message I just pay attention to the color of their bar.

[strange cradle]

Exactly. From red to green.

[fossil delta]

I wish we could get the Animal Whispers mead earlier in the game. Early enough for boars.

[dim python]

Just tamed my first boar. Took for freaking ever. Her name is now MissBoarie

[gray sand]

Cute!

[fossil delta]

Yeah, they take 30 minutes if everything went perfect.

[dim python]

after miss piggy from the muppets

now Miss Boary for better syntax

[gray sand]

Now find her a husband name Nermit

[fossil delta]

I hope its a 2 star. Miss Piggie would accept nothing less.

[dim python]

@silk token @tacit crystal thank you for your help

@gray sand and thank you for your encouragement

[umbral gate]

finally my padded gear is maxed 🙏 time to fight yag

[gray sand]

Sadly, Necks are not tameable 😭

[worn steeple]

What a horrible thing to say, maby Miss Piggie didnt care for size but was more into the effort given?

[fossil delta]

Have you never watched The Muppets?

[worn steeple]

Oh I have, but I also know that a 2 star compared to a none-star boar is all about size

[dim python]

i think i get it... miss piggy's standards were strangely low drinking that alcoholic soda in The Muppet Movie

[gray sand]

*Color

Green -> Blue -> Purple

[dim python]

purmit

[fossil delta]

She was a conflicted character, for sure.

[dim python]

purmit-ted to date miss boary

[gray sand]

😄

[dim python]

how do i lead her around?

[gray sand]

You cannot.

[dim python]

ah heck

[ripe marlin]

You stab her with a harpoon and drag her by the flesh

[fossil delta]

Yeah, only one of the creatures we tame can follow.

[dim python]

should i put a pen around her

[gray sand]

Very yes.

Protect her from raids.

[fossil delta]

If you don't want her to die, put her in a safe house.

[ripe marlin]

Like turn on friendly fire and harpoon her, just be careful not to do too much damage

[silk token]

bad guys will try to kil it walls are a must!

[fossil delta]

A fully enclosed house is a must. Certain flyers love to kill boar.

If she is truly a pet get her into your house. If she is any where near it now.

You can also get boar to go where you want with time, patience, pole fencing and dropped food.

Or just push them along.

[silk token]

i got the inclination that it's a bad idea to put carts on longboats as opposed to karves, do they roll back and forth and break the boat or fall or or something?

inclination? thats not even the right word.youknow what i mean

[fossil delta]

Put them across your bow and they are pretty stable.

[wary kettle]

I’m not playin on my phone I’m takin care of business 😤

[fossil delta]

Intuition? Feeling of impending doom?

[mild cedar]

Hi everyone. Im new here

[silk token]

maybe lul.

im doing run of firsts, never put carts on a boat before, never seemed like a good idea

[fossil delta]

Its not. Especially on a long boat where you have a rather large cargo hold anyways.

Give Valheim a chance to have things go wrong, and its going to.

[silk token]

alright, well ill just make a 2nd trip i guess

since im also neverbow lol, last thing i need is a seprent attacking my unstable boat

[fossil delta]

I think a bad storm would create more problems, but a serpent wouldn't be a positive in the situation.

At least carts float, until destroyed.

But you can always recover the cargo.

[silk token]

its funny, there's something about no map makes me really good at deciding what i actualy dont need. i just reduced 2 cartloads to 1 cartload and im not gonna miss any of it

imean no portal

but both, kinda, they pair and share

[fossil delta]

Yeah. Like I never have inventory issues. I can only guess its because I don't carry everything plus the kitchen sink.

Except for when I am. IE the mats for using portals.

[silk token]

hehe, portals causes need for portals

[fossil delta]

It is very convenient. Nice to go home to rest when your exploring.

[silk token]

and miss the fun of making a camp inside the mouth of a troll cave!

[fossil delta]

Just be careful to not destroy it while going home, and go home with no portal or the mats.

[vestal fulcrum]

rober assist me please

[fossil delta]

I still do that. I only have one portal per island, so have to get back to it when exploring large islands. So I still often camp.

[fossil delta]

Me?

[vestal fulcrum]

yes

[fossil delta]

How?

[vestal fulcrum]

#valheim-help

[jagged crag]

u guys have any advice on how to find the vendor in black forest?

[granite grail]

Just sail around and explore all the black forests you see lol. Once you're within a certain radius of him he'll pop up on the map

[fossil delta]

If your extra lucky he will pop up while your on the boat.

However, just as often, he is too far inland on the island to show up that easily.

[granite grail]

Yes I did mean for him to get off the boat and explore 😂

[fossil delta]

You did. I was just explaining the extra lucky part.

[jagged crag]

the fishing rod is worth the exploring? 🙂

[fossil delta]

I just buy it. I've never even seen one in the caves.

[jagged crag]

caves??

[oblique zinc]

You can find one in the frozen cave

Or buy from merchant

[fossil delta]

You can find the rods in mountain caves.

[oblique zinc]

Wish you could make one and then upgrade it

[fossil delta]

Just is very rare to do so.

[jagged crag]

ah, didnt know. Thanks

[fossil delta]

Again, its very rare to find them.

[oblique zinc]

Not as rare as that damn pet rock .... where are you buddy 👀

[fossil delta]

You have to get X distance from start, and I believe 15 meters above water. In Meadows and Black Forest. Then there is the new PoI.

[oblique zinc]

I tried. 1000 from the start and between 5 and 20 m or something like that. I looked for pics online and still after 1200 hours can't find one. Was considering loading up worlds where it's marked on the map

[fossil delta]

They are hard to find. In my current run with my wife, I found 2. They breed.

Just birth normal rocks, though.

[oblique zinc]

Yeah, sad they don't produce more of themselves. I also read about ultra rare spot where there are like 10 around one big rock

🪨

[fossil delta]

That many would breed enough rocks to give serious resource help for building.

[oblique zinc]

I mean one plains spire is like 600 I think I'd rather do that than wait for rocks to bang lol

[fossil delta]

They breed kind of fast, but I am not saying they would eliminate the need to go break rocks. Just help out a lot.

[dim python]

can i find ms hoggy a husband

[fossil delta]

Of course. They are breedable. But they both give birth. 😄

[dim python]

god dammit

kermit the hog

i have to do it now

[fossil delta]

Get a starred one, and it will give birth to starred babies. Plus they are cute.

[tacit crystal]

I find ||Asksvin hatchlings|| the cutest.

[fossil delta]

They are cute. Not sure if they are the cutest. All the babies look cute.

[worn steeple]

Did you adjust vegetation-settings to minimum?

[fossil delta]

That would help. Just I made that setting long ago to help with mushrooms. So didn't even think about that. 😄

[oblique zinc]

Not sure. On the opposite I think everything is at the max

[fossil delta]

Go minimal with that. It makes a lot of things easier to see.

[worn steeple]

Down to lowest settings, these mysterious rocks arent that big.

[fossil delta]

Plus it s not ugly like it used to be.

[oblique zinc]

Okay, I'll try. As long as it won't cause too much eye bleed

[worn steeple]

It won't

[fossil delta]

It doesn't anymore. Like I said above, it used to be ugly.

[oblique zinc]

Maybe because I play with mods now all the pet rocks are dead ....

[fossil delta]

Possible.

[worn steeple]

Never heard of any mod preventing them from spawning

[fossil delta]

Me either, but its possible. Just very highly unlikely. I think they would have to specifically code to do that.

[oblique zinc]

How would I know the 1000 distance when I play with no maps apart from modded map table ? Any approximate pointers ?

[fossil delta]

Guessing. Just guessing.

[dim python]

there aren't any Rag Trousers, right?

[gray sand]

There are.

I have an entire world dedicated to them.

[fossil delta]

I wouldn't bother making them. I just go straight to leather.

[dim python]

i found them

yeah i went straight to leather

and there is no rag cap, right?

[gray sand]

Because we start with a shirt, but no PANTS?

So the beginning of every run for me is:

• Land in new world.
• Log out immediately.
• Log over to PantsHeim.
• Drop shirt in Obliterator.
• Pick up pants from CastleLeggings.
• Log back over to new world and proceed.

[fossil delta]

You found them? Huh. I've never found them.

[gray sand]

No. Deerhide is the first cape.

[fossil delta]

Don't think there is a helmet/head piece either. I never make them, so not sure.

[gray sand]

Rags is just shirt/pants. That is it.

[dim python]

i mean i located their in game recipe prompt

i didnt see it before

[fossil delta]

Oh, OK. Yeah, I do see that. 😄

[gray sand]

Can't see it until you pick up leather scraps iirc.

[fossil delta]

That would make sense.

[hoary latch]

I'm back in the Ashlands for the first time since Ashlands PTB and it's still my most liked/disliked biome

The setting is so amazing but I'm not a fan of feeling like the 100 charred slayer every time I stray from my portal.

[gray sand]

I wish they had just nerfed Charred instead of nerfing spawnrates.
Like at that point in the game, we've conquered almost everything, so the power creep is real.
And war biome being us decimating dozens of enemies would feel good (imo) with the slowdown points being that the elite level things like Morgens are things you really need to pause and think about.

[umbral gate]

alr chat the time hath come to kill yagluth 🙏

[gray sand]

Silver sword him back into the dirt. You got this.

[hoary latch]

I feel like the spawn rate nerf did something but it didnt fix the problem either

And I agree that the elite level enemies should be the biggest slow down points since thats how the rest of the game is

[umbral gate]

iv chosen to go silver sword with padded gear

[gray sand]

Part of the problem is casualization 😬

[hoary latch]

What do you mean by that?

[gray sand]

Stuff that is genuinely interesting and engaging isn't faceroll, so people complain until the devs nerf it into oblivion.
Happened with Mistlands.

Seekers used to be fun. But people struggled just a TINY bit and boom, wall of complaints, nerfed into the ground to where they are simple now.

[fossil delta]

I'm guessing he means we should have been fighting non stop from the Meadows onward.

[gray sand]

No.

[hoary latch]

Ahh I see

I think this Mistlands is great difficulty wise

[fossil delta]

You know, normal players still die a lot in swamps, plains, mountains, Mistlands and Ashlands. A game should not be calibrated to players who rarely die.

[hoary latch]

It's hard to explain how I feel about the casualization thing. I think it's too based on fear and personal tastes. If the average player says a biome is too hard it's probably too hard.

[fossil delta]

Play on very hard, if thats what you want.

[gray sand]

If they removed the self-description word of "brutal" survival game, I would never again bring up nerfing anything.
As it stands, their own description of the game is in conflict with the experience 🤷‍♂️

[hoary latch]

When I say based on fear I mean I usually see people bring it up when they're talking about how they're worried a biome will be too easy at the end of the PTB or something

[fossil delta]

For you.

[gray sand]

Dude, I get it, you don't agree.
👍

[fossil delta]

Most think the game is very brutal.

[dim python]

it's definitely more difficult without this discord

[hoary latch]

I agree the brutal descriptor is in conflict with the experience, me and my friend laugh about it all the time

BUT

perhaps thats a good thing and the devs actually created something better than intended

[gray sand]

Then update the words 😭

[fossil delta]

I've played Valheim on servers with a lot of people. Many of which used a mod to track our deaths. Trust me, most players die a LOT. Like I used to when I first started playing.

[dim python]

is it alright if i change the topic

[gray sand]

Always.

[dim python]

yall dont seem to be getting anywhere

[fossil delta]

Always. We can handle several topics at once.

[gray sand]

T and I are progressing just fine, lol. What's on your mind?

[umbral gate]

okay uh yag is dead, that fight was really underwhelming

[dim python]

is deer meat actually good to turn into coal or was the chainmail cat pfp person a troll?

[gray sand]

Don't say that. Game super hard. Much death. Not easy at all.
😏

[gray sand]

Troll until you are much later in the game.

[fossil delta]

Eventually. Use it for food long before it is good for just coal.

[umbral gate]

I chose the padded gear bc I thought I would be needing to tank hits but I didnt get hit with anything except a little burn dmg 😭

[hoary latch]

I agree with this

[dim python]

deer meat should be incredible irl deer is really healthy

[gray sand]

@dim python I can say that you should just automatically cook deer meat specifically, as there is no recipe that uses the uncooked version.

[hoary latch]

And dying in the ashlands is a big deal

[dim python]

right now i subsist on raspberried boar and alternating deer/tail. should i start saving the boar?

[gray sand]

Now, when you get to Mistlands -- Seeker Meat is an amazing coal source, because you will get so friggin much of it that burning it 1:1 for coal is a very logical approach.

[fossil delta]

Yes, just don't cook it until you see the recipe.

[gray sand]

Do you have Honey?

[hoary latch]

Omg I should start using bugs as fuel LOL

[umbral gate]

save the boar and cook the deer meat ready for deer stew 🙏

[dim python]

the bees are currently ambivalent

[hard robin]

uh

vocab to big

[gray sand]

Meat - Meat - Honey is the "best" Meadows setup.
Once you get to BF and crack into the Cauldron you'll start making actual food.

[fossil delta]

I turn more honey into coal than anything else. But it helps I often end up with over 30 hives.

[dim python]

Jnsanity has entered chat

[hoary latch]

The ashlands is a slog because of the frequency of large combat enconters and it's been that way for months ):

[hard robin]

does it actually look like a j?

I might have to change the font

[gray sand]

Those are mainly just landing issues now. Once you clear an area and knock out the spawners, it's a desolate, lonely place.

[dim python]

i'm joshing you

[gray sand]

She's Kating you.

[fossil delta]

There are a lot of spawners. Easily 3 times as many as what you run into in the Black Forest.

[hard robin]

oh, well played

[dim python]

you're doing fine, is english not your first language?

[hoary latch]

I dont know if I agree because I secured my island pretty well and travelling across it is still a chore

[hard robin]

No, I'm just not the brightest

[gray sand]

I still think making charred more brittle would have been a better answer and still kept the feel of the biome.

[hoary latch]

I've had multiple near death encounters and all of them were because 4 enemy types are swarming me at once even though I'm moving tactically

The only reason I survived is the PTB training kicked in

[dark lantern]

Crazy how you go from not enough Boar meat to too much practically overnight lol

[fossil delta]

Thats like the third thing you have said in the last 5 minutes that I've agreed with. You OK?

[hoary latch]

The war feel of the biome was a complete failure imo

Fortress time is laughable and the dvergr which are the opposing force all get wiped out in seconds

[fossil delta]

It gets to be a bit much ofter the first few hours. Plus the biome is ugly, so its at a negative as soon as I get there.

[dim python]

i feel like i have too much right now but won't have enough when i need it for meat mash

[fossil delta]

Thats the thing, if you get to a point where you realize you have too much, just cook it into coal. Still useful.

[hoary latch]

It's exhausting

[gray sand]

Fortresses are too small imo.
They do not give "Fortress" feel. Moreso.. "Guardhouse."

[dim python]

it's gonna be a little awkward entering ashlands with these expectations

[fossil delta]

That has varied for me. Some times the fortress is pretty easy, other times it s like there is an army in there.

[dim python]

the game's 5 years old i can't ask for less spoilers

[gray sand]

The ash water will really underwhelm you tbh.

[hoary latch]

Yeah they're literally a square wall with another square room inside

[dim python]

you're making it worse OuO;

[fossil delta]

Our words won't take on solid meaning until you experience it anyways.

[dark lantern]

I dunno what that means, I'm too new! lol

[gray sand]

"Hey, let's make water that barely does any damage even though it is supposed to be super hot and boil your boat."

Ok, but how do we stop people from just sailing there in a Raft?
"I know, let's arbitrarily add a metric fuckton of stone spires that serve no purpose rather than just increasing the water temp damage."

[fossil delta]

Besides, Ashlands is still so far down the road for you, you will forget most of what we say here today.

[hoary latch]

The putrid hole is also a troll cave clone

[fossil delta]

Its 10 HP per second, so not exactly meaningless. I still laugh when the Dvergr die in it.

[gray sand]

How make troll cave more scary?

• Lower ceiling height to restrict camera.
• Turn lights off entirely.

[dim python]

i'm speaking from experience when i present doubt

[fossil delta]

Just larger.

[gray sand]

Love morgens as an enemy.

[hoary latch]

It feels incomplete

Like the ashlands I mean

[gray sand]

iirc the dev who was in charge of designing it did say they didn't get to fully finish it before it had to ship.

[dim python]

y'all've never tried to experience Lost Izalith

[hoary latch]

All the ingredients are there they just arent mixing together

[fossil delta]

Morgens get disappointingly easy to fight once you recognize their weakness. The army it attracts along with them still keeps them interesting though. Except in Putrid Holes.

[dim python]

lost izalith is peak awful

[gray sand]

So maybe post 1.0 they give Ashlands a "completion pass" under the category Smiffe titled "stuff we wanted to do but did not have time for."

[dim python]

to most people anyway

i kinda like it

[prime musk]

Hey how do I reliably find dragon eggs?

[gray sand]

?

[fossil delta]

Never even heard of it until now.

[gray sand]

Look UP. Find where Drakes are just floating. Go there.

[dim python]

it's a late game area in the first dark souls game

[fossil delta]

You don't. Just run around until you find them. Drakes are a good sign.

[prime musk]

Got it thanks

[hoary latch]

That would be great. I hope the debt doesnt build up as they release more stuff and that they take another look at the ashlands.

[dim python]

really solidifies the notion that the late game was underdeveloped and rushed

[light moat]

I’m familiar with Lost Izaluth, what does it have to do with Valheim?

[gray sand]

Ashlands being what it is means them taking their time with DN is a good sign.

[dim python]

people are complaining about land of fire

[light moat]

Ah, like comparing Ashlands to Lost Izalith?

[fossil delta]

I've never played Dark Souls. Any of them. I watched my kids play. Never got attracted to it.

[gray sand]

TooMuchIzalith 😏

[dim python]

i am, no one else is tho. no one else has heard of it

[light moat]

Ashlands is much better than lost izalith, and I’m a huge DS1 fan

[dim python]

this rang too true

[hoary latch]

Yeah as long as they deliver a good biome I'm okay with waiting

[fossil delta]

They will. Even though I hate Ashlands, it does not make me hate Valheim.

[hoary latch]

Ashlands made me so exhausted I quit and I don't even die that much

[light moat]

Mmm yeah. If I’m not mistaken lost izalith was also an incomplete level technically.

[gray sand]

I trust them to deliver a good biome.

Unfortunately, I also trust them to nerf everything I find good about it roughly 2 weeks after they release it 😄

[light moat]

Hard to get fire-zones right sometimes

[fossil delta]

I stop playing as soon as I beat Fader. I have zero desire to spend any more time in Ashlands.

[jagged crag]

Just got to swamp and first iron. Should we focus on craftin iron armors or do fenris etc later?

[fossil delta]

So just stick with the ptb version.

[gray sand]

First 10 iron goes to nails. Always.

[fossil delta]

I do iron right away.

[jagged crag]

iron is the armor to use until what biome?

[gray sand]

None?

[fossil delta]

The iron shield in particular. It makes the mountains easier to do, even at night.

[gray sand]

@jagged crag What armor do you have on right now?

[fossil delta]

Or root.

Either can work well enough until plains. The shield is what matters most.

[hoary latch]

As soon as it comes out the PTB channel will be filled with "please Iron Gate dont nerf anything" and I know this because I watched it happen twice now

[gray sand]

Yup 😄

But they will nerf it anyway.

[fossil delta]

Because they have to make this game for the average player.

[hoary latch]

Yeah because things need to be nerfed

[jagged crag]

troll armor lvl 3

[fossil delta]

No one has to quit the ptb if they don't want to.

[light moat]

There’s already an in-game way to nerf content, it’s the difficulty slider 👀

[gray sand]

Do the final upgrade and you're good all the way until Mountain.

[fossil delta]

At least, not until the next one.

[jagged crag]

tyyy

[gray sand]

I SEE THROUGH THE LIES OF THE JEDI

[fossil delta]

Root is far better if you have to stay light.

[hoary latch]

True but a lot of issues with the ashlands cant be adressed by that slider

[jagged crag]

yes but for workbench lvl 5, u need obsidian from mountain, to upgrade troll armor to lvl 4

[light moat]

Which issues? 🤔
(gameplay, not performance to be clear)

[fossil delta]

Go root. Its fun fighting the Abominations anyways. So many strategies you can try out.

[hoary latch]

-the frequency of enemy enconters is too high and slows the game to a crawl

-fortress time kinda sucks

The two things that are supposed to be the draw of the biome actually push people away

[light moat]

Personally found the high volume of enemies to be engaging, pace is set by the skill of the player imo.

Fortress time I agree is lame.

[jagged crag]

root meaning?

[strange cradle]

WTH is "Fortress time"?

[fossil delta]

I still like the fortress'. At least its a nice broad set of new strategies to try out.

[fossil delta]

Root Armor. Its the swamps light set.

[light moat]

The phrase the devs refer to as sieging a fortress.

Sheesh, big typo day for me lol

[hoary latch]

The skill of the player doesnt control spawn rates. It doesnt matter how good I am I have to waste so much time kiting.

[strange cradle]

You mean attacking? Storming?

Sieging... ok.

I was wondering.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I just run away from most of them. I only fight when I have to, for something I want/need.

[light moat]

No, but the player dictates their DPS management and choice of engagement 🤔

[hoary latch]

I used fortress time like everyone would know what thay is 😂

[strange cradle]

I never heard of it.

[light moat]

It’s the terminology IG uses, but yeah it can sound kinda strange I suppose haha

[hoary latch]

I'm running sword and board with all the best equipment

[strange cradle]

And I don't "waste time" in Valheim. I ... play it.

[light moat]

As did I, but I found the Ashlands to be quickest zone to complete

[hoary latch]

I try not to engage enemies but what happens is you go to fight one enemy then the rest wander over

[fossil delta]

Its the only one I even want to complete quickly. So thats the part I like about it too.

[strange cradle]

I find it engaging as well, when you have to manage a larger group of enemies. It can be very nailbiting.

[light moat]

I’ll be fair, I agree that is was problematic when trees would fall and numerous enemies would investigate.

[hoary latch]

You're suggesting a skill related problem when there is none and the biome is not well designed

[strange cradle]

I... have no problem with Ashlands.

Am I weird?

[hoary latch]

No, you're happy LOL

[fossil delta]

I'm fine with all the fighting for a few hours. I would like it better if there was a way to cut down on all the spawning after that. Destroying spawners doesn't do that by enough.

[strange cradle]

That's why you really wouldn't want to live in the Ashlands. You don't build a base there. It's a warzone. You go in, do your stuff, and leave.

[fossil delta]

My biggest problem with it is that its just ugly.

[strange cradle]

Oh, I love the looks. 😄

But yeah, tastes are different.

[light moat]

I refrain from simplifying it to ‘get gud’ because I know that’s a crappy answer haha but there is certainly a degree of player responsibility.

I don’t really know how I feel about the nerf to be honest? But that’s kinda beside the point, as I feel the issue with the biome is less about difficulty and more about immersion.

[gray sand]

@granite grail you... play in windowed mode? 👀

[light moat]

A frustrating experience doesn’t mean it’s a bad experience. I think the Ashlands weaknesses come from something other than the difficulty/spawn rate.

[fossil delta]

One of the things that I have always loved about Valheim is how beautiful it can be, even with sub par graphics. Then Ashlands comes along, and is just ugly.

[gray sand]

🥩 🍍 🍕

[strange cradle]

I understand you, but I really like the look.

[light moat]

What would make the Ashlands feel more aesthetically pleasing for you? 🤔

[strange cradle]

It's a wasteland. A warzone.

[umbral gate]

is the serpent shield really all that, I miss parrying 🥲

[hoary latch]

I cant be immersed in the biome with the constant fighting and kiting

[gray sand]

On VH? Yes.
On normal? No. Not even close.

[umbral gate]

vh?

[light moat]

At the end of the day, that’s valid opinion

[gray sand]

Very.... Hard? 🤔

[strange cradle]

Once you cleared out a wider area of spawners, Ashlands really isn't that bad or different from, say, Black Forest.

[fossil delta]

ITs mainly that its pierce resistance stacks with the root resistance, so make you practically immune to pierce. Its the only resistance that does stack.

[umbral gate]

oh I see

[gray sand]

It doesn't stack with anything because blocking and armor have nothing to do with each other 😭

[fossil delta]

Your saying everyone who said those two do stack are wrong. Or are you meaning something else entirely?

[gray sand]

Link to whomever said they stack?

[light moat]

Biggest weaknesses of the Ashlands for me;
-Fortresses aren’t engaging, and repetitive.
-weapon enchantment system is weak and takes focus away from weapon uniqueness and puts into generic effects.
-gameplay is a bit repetitive with little to break it up

[fossil delta]

Numerous people in the history of this chat, going back to years before the hack.

[umbral gate]

whats the best weapon to enter the mistlands with?

[fossil delta]

Thats really up to you. I use the BM sword, my wife uses Frostner.

[strange cradle]

I agree with that to a degree. But then some of that could be said about the Swamps and the crypts.

[hoary latch]

People say you have to play tactically to survive the ashlands but in a way it's the least tactical biome because most suggest brute forcing towards your objective as fast as you can

[umbral gate]

so mainly personal preference then alr

[gray sand]

Serpent has its own resistance that applies during blocking. This does not care about your armor or any other resistance you have since it is blocking.

Post-block damage cares about worn armor and other resistances. But this damage is post-block and the shield's resistance is no longer in play because it is post-block.

If you consider those 2 completely separate processes "stacking"... sure?

[hoary latch]

Thats what I was told to do when I complained about the spawn rates at least

[fossil delta]

Primarily, yes.

[strange cradle]

Brute force is the surefire way to get you killed in the Ashlands.

You can't brute force anything in Ashlands.

[fossil delta]

Do they both lower the damage? If so, then yes.

[hoary latch]

But you cant stall either or you will get swarmed

So which is it?

[strange cradle]

No. You have to move tactically... keep your enemies at bay, defeat them one by one, then move on to the next spawner to destroy it.

[gray sand]

Odd way to spell Fireball Staff 😉

[hoary latch]

No matter how much awarwness I maintain I am always getting swarmed

[fossil delta]

Move to advantageous positions that keep the option of running for your life open.

[gray sand]

Fireball Staff brute forces and kills everything. 😁

[hoary latch]

Facts

[strange cradle]

I'm not a magic guy.

[umbral gate]

but I should probably retire the atgeir now right?

[strange cradle]

Sword and board all the way.

[umbral gate]

respect

[granite grail]

Well.....I play on Steam through a cloud-streaming service so I pretty much have to 😂 I wish I could get the Valheim game app itself but I think(?) I'd have to pay again lol

[fossil delta]

Pretty sure people still love the atgeir even in Mistlands.

[merry pebble]

Magic makes Ashlands ways easier, true, but sword and shield are way more fun 😄

[umbral gate]

I only really used it for squitos

[strange cradle]

If you payed for Valheim on Steam, you have it.

[silk token]

yup still great in mistlands, just butt in ashlands

[strange cradle]

Magic made it impossible for me to survive in Ashlands. Sword and Board made it survivable.

[granite grail]

I know but will that transfer? Bc when I got to the Valheim website the only option is buy game

[hoary latch]

My point is that even when I use advantageous positions it feels like the biome is swarming me. Like I'm playing well but it's still torture.

[strange cradle]

On Steam?

[fossil delta]

Well, it is swarming you. Thats why I use the environment to give me breathing room. As much as I can get, at least.

[strange cradle]

Because I don't really know how cloud gaming works.

[vestal fulcrum]

i found the mountain biome

[strange cradle]

Initially it really is torture until you destroyed the spawners in a wider area, it will cool down considerably after that.

[granite grail]

No I mean there's buy game and download it from the website, or buy it and play it on Steam. I own it on steam yes. But I don't think I can just download the game itself straight from the Valheim website without paying again

[strange cradle]

Ok... you confuse me.

[vestal fulcrum]

is it after meadows?

[granite grail]

I kinda confuse myself 😂 I'm not sure how it works

[strange cradle]

If you OWN the game on Steam, you can just download it to your Mac and play!

[fossil delta]

Pretty sure that option does not exist. I'd love to actually own a copy of Valheim.

[hoary latch]

That definitely makes it better. I like to shoot out the spawners with my arbalest.

[strange cradle]

Easy as that.

[silk token]

some people: “i don’t like fighting constantly”
other people: “i can’t activate my trinket”

[fossil delta]

You don't own anything on Steam. Only a license to play.

[strange cradle]

I know. Technically that's only valid in the US.

[silk token]

I think if there are people complaining about both things they’ve got the balance about right

[strange cradle]

Not here in Europe.

I OWN a game I bought in Europe.

But you know what I mean.

[fossil delta]

Yet another reason I wish I had moved to Europe 37 years ago. 😄

[strange cradle]

😄

You had your chance!

[fossil delta]

I did.

[strange cradle]

The thing is, if you bought Valheim on Steam under YOUR account, you should be able to just download and install it.

Anyway it's supercheap right now.

[fossil delta]

Oh, we can install it. We just do not own anything. We can play it off line through the Steam app.

[granite grail]

I just know I can buy Valheim straight from the App Store and play it without steam. That's what I mean. But since it's not connected to steam, I'd have to buy the game straight from the apppstore

[strange cradle]

You can do both.

[granite grail]

so I'd be paying for it twice

[strange cradle]

I paid for it... five times. 😄

[granite grail]

O_O

WHY LOLL

I don't have money to throw away like that xD

[strange cradle]

You have a Mac, you pay for a cloud gaming service.

[fossil delta]

Is that actual ownership though? Can you play it without using an app? At least?

[granite grail]

I mean....yes? You'd be buying Valheim as an app I think?

[strange cradle]

Valheim App store just works. It'd LOVE to connect you to gamingthingyapp, but you don't need to.

Just play it.

That's what I do.

[fossil delta]

I'll have to look for that, then. I hate the premise of Steam. I like actual ownership.

[granite grail]

I mean your steam games can never be taken away from you, so I don't really see the difference

[fossil delta]

You can get banned. Granted, you have to be really, really stupid to get banned, but they can do that.

[strange cradle]

Valheims I own:

1. Steam Windows version... now also a Mac version.
2. Steam Windows version for my wife.
3. Steam MacOS version for somebody else, because I promised to IronGate I would do it if they'd bring out the game on Mac.
4. App Store version.
5. App Store version for my wife.

[granite grail]

I didn't know that. That's crazy, so if you have like 30 games you lose all that money? Dang 😂 I mean but yeah I don't think that's really a concern

[fossil delta]

I've also gifted at least 4 licenses to people.

[fossil delta]

I have nearly 1000 games, but yeah, I'll never be that stupid.

[strange cradle]

App Store version is the one I prefer. Simply because I can just start and play.

But that one is not moddable.

[fossil delta]

Its not? Odd.

[gray sand]

Mac 🤢

[strange cradle]

shrug

[fossil delta]

Oh.

[strange cradle]

You are not forced to use one.

[granite grail]

Dang bro I've got 5 😭😭🤣

[fossil delta]

Which is why I never use one I pay for.

[fossil delta]

I'm old. Plus I have done Humble Bundle Monthly for many years. Games on the cheap.

[granite grail]

Wholeheartedly agree

[strange cradle]

At least it wasn't possible due to signature issues. Might work now. I haven't tried in a while.

[strange cradle]

Again. No one forces you to use one.

[granite grail]

That's cool! I can't imagine

[granite grail]

Well......I don't have money to just toss my one laptop out and buy a windows just bc I don't like it. I bought it to use Adobe programs for school

[fossil delta]

Well, make it to being old, and do Humble Bundle Monthly the whole time. You wll end up with thousands of games.

[strange cradle]

Well, that was still your decision.

[granite grail]

Ye. Doesn't mean I have to like what I'm stuck with for the next few years 😂

[strange cradle]

I wouldn't have bought it then.

[fossil delta]

I've never done Apple, never will buy Apple. Still one thing I get to chose.

[strange cradle]

I've been an Apple guy since 1992.

[fossil delta]

I'm sorry.

[strange cradle]

No need to. 😄

I still prefer it VERY MUCH over Windows.

PCs still suck. And I've been a PC/Windows tech my whole life.

[fossil delta]

I have no love for Windows, but I like Apple even less.

[strange cradle]

Oh... I don't LIKE Apple. I just love some of their products.

But I like Microsoft and Google even less.

[granite grail]

You don't seem to understand I had to get it for school, it was recommended for my school and what I was strongly advised to get. My guardian wouldn't have let me buy a different device.

It was my first ever (and will be last) apple device and I didn't know ahead of time what it would mean for my gaming.

[fossil delta]

I worked on Apple computers for years, I'd just never buy one.

[strange cradle]

Ok, that's sorry to hear.

[fossil delta]

Meaning for my job, not as a job.

[strange cradle]

Well, I still prefer the Apple eco system over others. Even if it is... limiting at times. I agree with that.

[fossil delta]

I just always felt too over priced for no real gain.

[strange cradle]

Which is not true. Never was. But then Apple never played in the lowest price range.

If you want a cheap banger, you're not going to buy a BMW.

[hoary latch]

I'm working on taking over an Ashlands island I call "The Shrimp" because that's what it looks like LOL

Im contemplating changing it to The Krill because then it sounds like the 30 Seconds to Mars song The Kill

[strange cradle]

I have a five year old MacBook Air M1. The oldest and least powerful Mac with an Apple Silicon chip. It still plays WoW beautifully and does the job just fine. Perfectly manufactured. Super thin. No fan, no noise. Passively cooled. It just works. I love it.

Fantastic display at 2k resolution.

Paid 1800 Euros for it (19% VAT) and it was worth every penny.

[fossil delta]

Sorry, I had to take out garbage. Someone gave me some free Macs. (JK) I did take out garbage, though.

[strange cradle]

😄

hey, no problem. Again. People should be able to choose what they like.

Boah... that was a bad typo.

[silk token]

i REALLY liked macs for some work did with sound and video editing, the programs that just came free with it were the best, super intuitive and quick with extra features and junk.

today i use this free editing program for windows, it has eveyr single thing you'd want, but it's like... anti-intuitive, it's so weird.

[strange cradle]

Yeah, that's often with free software. They're often written by individuals or small teams who may be good programmers, but don't know anything about user interface design and usability.

Apple's usually pretty good at stuff like this. Not always. The latest version of macOS is... rather horrible.

I don't like it.

And they're going the software as a service route.

Which I REALLY hate.

They have this office suite of programs. Kinda like MSOffice.

And it was included for free with MacOS.

Now they want you to pay a fee for it... I think annually.

I didn't upgrade.

I wish there was a "finger"-emoji.

So, as you can see I have my beef with Apple as well. Now back to topic!

My apologies for the derailment

[umbral gate]

I have entered the mistlands for the first time and uh ts is terrifying

[strange cradle]

it is.

VERY.

Be afraid.

[umbral gate]

the noises bruh

[strange cradle]

Exactly. LISTEN. It is really important to listen in Mistlands.

Don't try to see.

You will eventually learn the distinct noises the mobs make.

[umbral gate]

I set up a lil hut with a portal and got tf outta there

[strange cradle]

😄

Mistlands is very beautiful, but also very deadly.

[hoary latch]

the first time I brought my friends to the mistlands a gjall assaulted the longship and it was a slaughter

[strange cradle]

I feel you.

[twin tide]

there are areas there where theres no mist at all, its weird

[strange cradle]

Yes, it is beautiful.

[twin tide]

also i noticed lightning/thunder is different when near mistlands

[hoary latch]

I had completed the mistlands already so I was just laughing my ass off hearing them panic

[twin tide]

scared the crap outta me

[hoary latch]

the gjall got me too though so justice was served for me laughing at them

great times

[strange cradle]

Oh yes.

One tip, Juh. Always have a fire protection potion with you.

[hoary latch]

I second this

[hoary latch]

ahh the purple lightning is so good

[strange cradle]

Probably the most important thing to have in Mistlands.

[hoary latch]

I interpreted it as the air crackling with eitr magic

[strange cradle]

That's actually a very good interpretation.

I like that.

[silk token]

"i smell magic in the air"

[blazing cobalt]

What does everyone's hotkeys look like? I just reached the plains on this run and it looks like:
Primary Weapon
Shield
Hammer
Axe
Bow
Sledge
Pickaxe
Hoe

Is there anything I should remove/add

[strange cradle]

Whatever you feel comfortable with and works.

It really is different for everybody.

1. Hammer 2. Sword 3. Shield 7. Bow 8. Healing potion.

Later 6. becomes mist light.

[silk token]

that's a fun game. mine is usually...
1 wildcard
2 spear
3 battleaxe
4 shield
5 pick
6 hammer
7 hoe
8 torch/potion

[hoary latch]

I really like the Mistlands but theres one thing I really want and might even try to mod in. I think it would be cool if there was a machine that could clear a large area of mist (like really large) that you make with black cores and stuff. Maybe you fuel it with sap or something. If you really like an area but its covered in a lot of mist you could build a little anti mist outpost.

[strange cradle]

Technically mine is:

1. Hammer 2. Sword 3. Shield 4. wildcard 6. Mist light 7. Bow. 8. Healing potion

[tacit crystal]

1. 1 handed weapon
2. shield
3. other weapon (1 or 2 handed)
4. battleaxe
5. bow
6. pickaxe
7. hammer
8. arrows.

[dark coyote]

1. torch
2. usually mace
3. shield
4. bow
5. axe
6. pick
7. sledge
8. healing pots

comfyquickslots:
Z. hoe
V. rake
B. hammer

[strange cradle]

Technically you can achieve that with the little mistlights. You just need to place enough of them.

[hoary latch]

yeah it's not meant to replace them

those would be better for exploration or paths through mist, the machine would be ideal for bases and stuff

[strange cradle]

I hear you, though. Such a thing could be a nice addition once you've beaten the queen.

[hoary latch]

also the idea of the machine is its something you would have after you conquer the biome

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

I would suggest it. I will support it.

[dark coyote]

you can ||spawn dvergr_demister_large|| which is maybe 2x?

[strange cradle]

Yeah, but that is using devcommands.

[hoary latch]

I'm not against being able to unlock it before the queen but it should be at the end of mistlands progression. Like refined eitr and black cores are required to make it.

[strange cradle]

Tru.

[chrome badge]

1. Bow
2. Hammer
3. Pickaxe
4. 1H Axe
5. Shield
6. Alternate Weapon (Likely 2H)
7. Mead 1 (Typically Tasty Mead)
8. Mead 2 (Typically Healing Mead)

[tired path]

I run

1. Axe
2. Pickaxe
3. Shield
4. Primary weapon
5. Bow
6. Secondary weapon
7. Free slot (Either hoe, tertiary weapon, pots...)
8. Hammer

[tacit crystal]

Hey I got reminded of your idea of Vilebone spear you once mentioned, shall I suggest it properly?

[merry pebble]

1 - Main weapon
2 - Shield (or mead/bomb/free slot if main weapon is 2-handed)
3 - Bow
4 - Pickaxe
5 - Hoe
6 - Hammer
7 - Cultivator (Yes, i take it everywhere, no i dont have problem with inv slots 😄 )
8 - Axe

[tired path]

That's how my loadout looks like in Minecraft ever since I was a little Minecraft boy and now my "Pickaxe" key is 2 and my "Weapon" key is 4 instinctively

[strange cradle]

Funny, everybody's hotbar is a bit different.

Even though it's just 8 slots.

[hoary latch]

my 8 slot is typically the helmet im wearing LOL

I know that doesnt make sense but it looks cool

[strange cradle]

Hehe

[fossil delta]

I put my foods in the hot bars, just because I don't want to open my gear menu that often. 😄

[strange cradle]

Viable

[hoary latch]

Right now im just playing with the armour slots mod but when im not I like to have the armour laid out from top to bottom in the inventory

[fossil delta]

I do that too.

[strange cradle]

I usually stuff my armor in the lower left hand corner of my inventory.

Arrows and other potions on the right hand side.

Food lowest row

Rest for ... stuff.

[fossil delta]

Left column/side, so close to the same. I do like to group things, so armor together, weapons together, meads together, arrows together, etc..

[strange cradle]

Yep.

It's called organisation. 😄

[pine drum]

amour bottom right tools all up top and food/arrows fill the left side

[strange cradle]

It's funny when I watch Youtubers play Valheim and I see their hotbar and instinctively want to reorganise it so it resembles mine.

So, time to go to bed for this ole' man.

[pine drum]

im over a 100 hrs building this house and im not even close to done

[strange cradle]

👋

[pine drum]

not even including the resource time

[strange cradle]

Nice talking to you, folks.

[fossil delta]

I think its human nature to want us all to be the "same". When we are anything but.

[pine drum]

alright mr ross

[fossil delta]

Thats why I stopped building. I'll wait until after 1.0 and I will allow myself to cheat with dev commands to spawn all that in.

I bet at least 600 of my 5300 hours are just to collect build mats. I did some really large builds.

[dim python]

i'm really glad i never had to see anyone use until i did on myself

[earnest field]

#screenshots message
Could you guys help me decide where to build my base at? I am having a really hard time deciding

[fossil delta]

Near Mistlands, and incorporate the Yag altar for the coolness factor.

[pliant hatch]

Looking at that screenshot, I'd say down in the bottom of that encircled area, where you got Mistlands, Plains and Meadows (or Black Forest), as that will give you the ability to grow all crops.

[fossil delta]

Plains grows all crops until Mistlands.

[earnest field]

I've been mostly thinking about making a base half in the meadows and half in the plains at that top x, but maybe I will check out that yagluth area some more

wish there was some meadows down there but it's only black forest

[fossil delta]

Like I said, you can grow everything in your plains farm. Meadows are just nice for being mostly peaceful in comparison.

I now like making my plains base next to Mistlands because I constantly aggro things out of there, so build up on mats early.

[earnest field]

good idea.
I guess that's decide then. The plains are so beautiful I can't deny living in them

[pliant hatch]

Whenever possible, pick a spot where you see some hares running.
Makes it easier to get their meat and hides once you got some defenses up.

[fossil delta]

If you build close like I did, be ready to fight everything the Mistlands offers. If your extra lucky there will be other resources easy to grab too.

Yeah, thats one bad thing about my solo Plains base. Very few hares spawn.

I have 4 so far, iirc.

[dim trellis]

my meadows crops died in plains is there a trick?

[gray sand]

Hammer on 4.

[near furnace]

hammer on 8

[gray sand]

Gross.

[near furnace]

IKR

[gray sand]

8 is for shield.

[near furnace]

O_o

2 or 3 is for shield

depending on main weapon

[gray sand]

2-3 is Axe/Pickaxe or Slash/Pierce weapons depending on gathering or combat loadouts.

1 being Main Weapon or Blunt based on the same condition.

[pine drum]

why do i spend hours upon hours of flattening dirt... even on mc it the first thing i dop

[gray sand]

?

[granite grail]

For me it's:
1- Pickaxe
2- hammer
3- wildcard (hoe, cultivator, frost staff, as needed)
4- axe
5- bow
6- blunt weapon (mace)
7- shield
8- sword

[dim trellis]

cursed

[gray sand]

1-3 weapons/tools depending on loadout
4 hammer
5-6 pots or tools depending on loadout
7 bow/arbalest
8 shield

[fossil delta]

Not that I am aware of. Everything has grown just fine for me.

[dim trellis]

maybe its just one thing that i tried which failed

[gray sand]

If mage build:
1 staff
4 hammer
5-6 pots

Done.

[merry pebble]

I see you all are forgetting the all-powerful cultivator

[dim trellis]

cultivator is tab > right click in inventory 😏

[dark coyote]

V for me

[fossil delta]

Maybe. I planted everything with the same spacing I had in the Meadows. You may have had a rock under the dirt. The plains love to do that.

[gray sand]

5-6

[dim trellis]

oh that might be a related tip i will check

of course, assuming you arent making it up 😄

[fossil delta]

I never make anything up.

[dim trellis]

heheheh

[fossil delta]

Well, except for when I am telling stories.

[dim trellis]

what if someone's life was scripted and they had to say things already written down

[fossil delta]

They lead a boring life?

[spare patio]

chat am I cooked
I have 150 hours and haven't even made it past the mountains biome

[unreal shale]

I have 320 hours and just defeated Moder. Just barely dippin toes into Plains.

[tacit crystal]

Don't worry about how much time it takes to you, it's the whole journey that counts. Especially for the first time you will never experience the same again.

[dim python]

are neck tails useful outside of skewering

[unreal shale]

Yeah this is my first playthrough and I enjoy taking my time, exploring and building bases.

[merry pebble]

You can make a mead with them bit later 🙂

• one food is made with them

[tacit crystal]

For one mead and food on cauldron.

[dim python]

should i bother saving them i love imagining eating tender lizardmeat

[dark coyote]

yeah but don't cook them if you can avoid it, same with boar meat

[fossil delta]

They stack in 50's, so easiest meat to store.

[spare patio]

Its getting to be a real drag💔

Might take a break for a few days

[fossil delta]

While it is better to play with others, fortunately I enjoy solo as well. Playing one right now.

[spare patio]

My friends are barely on so I have to farm materials for 5 armor sets solo

[fossil delta]

Now that is suckage. Did things like that while I ran servers.

I am truly solo, so only have to do work for myself.

[dim python]

i built my hogs a barn. which chat should i share it in?

[merry pebble]

#screenshots would work i think 😄

[dim python]

i posted in #building-screenshots

[fossil delta]

Day 382 and I finally know where Yag is. WHOOOOT!

[silk token]

that is not healthy. your friends should pull their own weight, and farming materials is at least half of the game. if they can’t play enough start your own world and play that, keep both characters to play with them when they are on.

[silk token]

you know there’s a diagonal wall piece you can use to meet the roof? or is that intentional design?

[dim python]

i didn't actually know 🫠

[silk token]

try em out have fun! also all the X shaped walls and stuff, the possibilities are endless

[spare patio]

most of the early game farming is a lot more tedious and I had their help through most of that, I'm worried its just gonna take longer and I'm gonna give up before I get back to where I was

[fossil delta]

Solid advice, imo.

[silk token]

farming gear for 5 people is a bad situation either way rhats gonna kill the game for you faster than starting fresh, ive replayed this game probly a hundred times

theres only exciting nee experiences to be had in a new seed

[dim python]

is this manlike bear thing a bear OuO;

[spare patio]

about 40 of my playtime hours were spent restarting for a seed that didnt suck

[fossil delta]

Looking at my map, I got very close to Yag a while ago. Figures. Oh well, at least now I know where he is.

[spare patio]

I keep getting really bad seeds😭

i'm at the point where I'm gonna input random seeds into the webmap untill I find a nice seed

[fossil delta]

Part of the fun to me is to make bad seeds work. Just do what will be fun for you.
Far from everyone is as addicted to this game as I am.

Nice! Found a second swamp house clearly in the plains biome. Think this is the first time I have found two like this on the same world.

I have found a house and a crypt in the plains on the same world.

Now the map does say its in swamp, but its on plains grass and even has berries growing next to it.

[silk token]

if it’s manlike it’s probably not a bear.

[wary kettle]

Does anyone else experience a bug where items stop auto-picking up? forcing you to manually grab everything

it seems to happen at random in the middle of a play session. closing and reopening the game usually fixes it

[dim python]

WHO THE FUCK SAID EIKTHYR WOULD BE EASY

sorry

that was not a tutorial boss

[nocturne wolf]

there are multiple non-boss enemies in the next biome that are stronger than eikthyr

[steel mica]

You can kinda cheese the queen by getting on top of her

[pine drum]

I see screenshots channel but am i allowed to post videos in it?

[chrome badge]

Nope, it's for screenshots. #memes-and-clips is a better bet.

[silk token]

i think literally you can just spam attack him never block or dodge and he'll die before he kills you if you have gear and food, what happened?

[scarlet fossil]

im pretty ive killed him with a spear before and just stepped away from all the attacks without dodging or blocking

[dim python]

he's a lot easier with controller

[dim python]

you walked out of range of the aoe?

[scarlet fossil]

no the AI was being stupid that fight and he kept doing it when I was no where near him

it wasnt a no hit but I didnt feel i was in danger of dying, but I think the spear really helps mess with the attack ranges

[steel mica]

Now that im seeing it, the queen is very cheesable

[scarlet fossil]

they all are once you know a few key things

[steel mica]

Line of sight being one of them

[silk token]

terraforming is probably the lamest. i was on a server where there was a person-sized hole dug into the ground, apparently everyone else on the server just stood in the hole and first arrows straight up into the elder to fight him

[final bloom]

What kind of seed do u want?

[frozen fable]

any idea why i can't upgrade Early Axes?

[dim trellis]

maybe thats how they are supposed to be

[tacit crystal]

No, they should be upgradable.
They require wood and leather scraps on workbench with upgrades. @frozen fable

[frozen fable]

When I click on the workbench to try to upgrade them they do not show as upgradeable

[earnest field]

Pressing V turns off auto pick up
Just press it again

[tacit crystal]

Odd. Did you have any mods in play?

[final bloom]

Have you built the upgrades for the workbench to increase its level (top right number) in order to unlock a higher upgrade for ur weapon?

[tacit crystal]

Seems like the axes don't show up at all on list of items that you could upgrade, as I understood it.

IIRC they are fairly experienced player already.

But if there is no mods in play then maybe asking in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202549675924787220 might grant answer.

[steel mica]

I just hate the mist especially if its on my base 😭

[dim trellis]

do people making bases in the mist?

[steel mica]

Not intentionally

Most would like areas with no mist