#valheim-chat

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agile temple
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πŸ«₯

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this game really struggles with rewards huh

keen trench
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all hildir clothes reduce base item stamina usage, the farming clothes as well but also give the skill bonus

steel mica
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it just comes with bonus levels so you can get extra yields

agile temple
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massive 200 pound silver chest with clothes inside 🫠

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self written joke

keen trench
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farming tunic gives the same -20% but hat doesn't so: "work clothes" = -35% tools stamina; "farming clothes" = -20% stam + farming skill bonus

steel mica
agile temple
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and indeed i got nothing of use out of it

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that's several hours of my life i'm not getting back

steel mica
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Oh youll find them useful alright especially when you get to the plains biome which I wont spoil

keen trench
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yep, if you switch hat after harvesting and pre replanting you get the best bonus 😁

agile temple
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what is the extravagant cap gonna do for me here

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or do you mean the harvest clothes that give me ~1.2x my usual harvest

steel mica
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base building, farming, terraforming

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that -35% is still really good

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especially BASE BUILDING

agile temple
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as opposed to waiting around 3 seconds

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you know i'd think the game was trolling but at this point i've played enough to know it's not πŸ˜‘

keen trench
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yes, or if your good enoug to plant crop rows in one go while walking (i can't do it, tried and failed too much)

steel mica
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The hildir items are very useful yes but not needed but my god do they make your life so much easier

steel mica
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I plant while walking and moving my mouse so I place plants faster

agile temple
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i mean like... a burning tomb with an enemy that's always on fire. a MASSIVE tower sealed with tons of gates. a cave filled to the brim with werewolves at the edge of the world. all of that for CLOTHES

steel mica
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I refuse to use guiding lines because it reduces the amount of crops I can plant

agile temple
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in ANY other rpg game you'd maybe get a cool unique weapon or some special tool

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like give me brenna's SWORD or something

steel mica
agile temple
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give me zil's shield spell, give me something i can wear from the cultist that makes all my attacks deal extra frost damage

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long ass side quests that have me chasing the ends of the world and conquering epic structures with tough bosses and basically nothing to show for it

steel mica
agile temple
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"the real treasure was the journey" ahh side quests

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i'm pissed and i regret having even tried

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again, in any other game i'd unironically think the devs were just trolling and expecting a laugh out of us

steel mica
agile temple
steel mica
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They aren't there for progression sake

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just there if you want extra stuff

agile temple
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imma tell my friend about this and he's gonna make fun of me lol

steel mica
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Ive gone from meadows>blackforest>swamp>mountain>plains without even trying to get her chest once

agile temple
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you can't tell me it isn't extremely comical that these tough ass named bosses were protecting extremely heavy gilded chests that are filled with... clothes

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hell i bet even they were disappointed when they stole it from her

agile temple
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checking around corners, getting new artifacts, doing ranni's very long quest and getting the dark moon sword out of it

steel mica
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Look I get it I understand, you fought a very "tough" boss and were expecting some good loot

nocturne wolf
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Are fireworks and sparklers not a reward? πŸŽ† NeckSmile

agile temple
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there's the whole meme "fighting the final boss after you did all the side quests" for a reason

steel mica
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Valheim is a video game, the point of a video game is to have fun

agile temple
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except in valheim's case you're dressed like an idiot and die in 1 hit

pliant hatch
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You're not s'posed to do the dungeons in rags....

agile temple
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in other games you do all the side quests and come to the final boss being a boss yourself, in valheim you do the side quests just to dress like a dumbass and die like a dumbass

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there is no reward, that's the joke

steel mica
agile temple
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yeah they're meant to save you a couple seconds when building and give you very slightly more harvest

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those couple seconds which you spent actually putting the clothes on and taking them off

small mantle
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Can anyone help me I need an iron pickaxe 😭

agile temple
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which were also outdone by the hours you spent actually getting to the quest and bringing the chest back

steel mica
steel mica
pliant hatch
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IMHO the biggest reward of those side-quests aren't the items you can buy from Hildir, but the fact you managed to do the side-quests and get the trophies.
And in case of the Sealed Tower, also something you have to buy for (2x) 1500 gold.

steel mica
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Very useful armour for exploration

pliant hatch
agile temple
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at this point you're just making excuses for objectively bad game design

steel mica
agile temple
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which is the only response i've seen so far in this discord server

wary coral
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hgey guys i have a question, if i remove all of hildirs markers on the map can i afterwards interact with her map again and get the locations?

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asking cause i clicked the map without removing the old markers

pliant hatch
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I haven't tried myself, but you can always give it a try.
If it doesn't work, load a world backup and you should be good.

But I do know that when we had map changes Hildir's map did update, so chances are it will.

steel mica
wary coral
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yeah the quests aka question marks on the map smouldering tobm and so on

pliant hatch
agile temple
wary coral
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@steel mica it worked out fine, thank you!

agile temple
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Hell maybe I'll go ahead and learn since I'm somehow seeing something nobody else is

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And "let's see you take a crack at it, chump!" is the most invalid response there is to criticism

hollow lynx
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yea so is "yea well if i knew how to code i could totally do better"

agile temple
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that is because i know i could

hollow lynx
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ok

agile temple
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and your response makes no sense at all? i was talking about a bad response to criticism and you're... doubting my ability or something?

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whatever. game's disappointed me for the last time. my friend already wanted us to quit so i guess we're gonna put our world to rest and move on

steel mica
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My guy why are you still whining about Hildir's rewards not being up to your standards 😭

agile temple
golden burrow
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man clearly never completed 'no stone unturned' in Skyrim xD

tacit crystal
shy marlin
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Rocky πŸ€™

wooden sleet
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Enjoy the weekend!!!

fresh mason
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hi all when is patch for deepnorth?

merry pebble
shy marlin
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TheBeesAreHappy ?

merry pebble
upbeat crypt
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is it possible for an Xboxheim player to connect to my steam valheim other than a join code?

hearty hatch
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does Ragnar have a son?

upper igloo
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i miss the game 😦

wintry valve
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aim better next time

covert smelt
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What is the fastest way to level elemental magic. At 40 is taking 6 minutes per level

scenic wing
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has anyone built a outpost atop ||the outer perimeter of a sealed tower||? seems like a fun but challenging place to build.

merry pebble
safe grotto
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Does anyone know in which quarter the deep north update will be released?

merry pebble
vernal pebble
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I'm looking more into foods and how they're made on valheim ngl I'd be fat asf if I lived there

upbeat crypt
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you run around a lot which kills all calories again so you good. Zomboid Players know.

vernal pebble
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Black forest buffet
Deer stew x3
Thistle x5
Queen's jam x4
Woodland herb blend x1 🀀 Rocky

woven flare
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when is the deep north coming i thought it was supposed to be last December

upbeat crypt
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I don't think I've ever heard about dec 24 for Deep north

nocturne wolf
woven flare
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must of been tripping then

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thought they said they were close to finishing in decemeber

nocturne wolf
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In december they were just getting started, the previous update released in october

merry pebble
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Iirc that was the time they said it is in pre-production πŸ™‚ so maybe you confused it with that?

woven flare
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probably i am hyped for the new biome tho its gonna be so sick

merry pebble
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We all are πŸ˜„

upbeat crypt
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we are not even in ashlands

sour furnace
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am i the only one that wishes that bonemass was tweaked? his dmg resistance combined with his poison cloud makes it very hard to do damage fast enough to kill him with anything but an iron mace, and literally impossible with an atgeir or spear, in my testing

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(assuming you don't skip ahead)

keen trench
# sour furnace am i the only one that wishes that bonemass was tweaked? his dmg resistance comb...

uhm, don't see nothing wrong in that, bosses and mobs have their resistances and weaknesses, bringing all weapon classes to do the same amount of damage to anything will flatten up the game a lot imo, im at that point choosing to focus on a weapon or another would be a mere cosmetic choice... i love my atgeir playthru, where i have to mine some iron and make a mace for bonemass, then hang it on a wall in memory of the fight, then mine ||some silver and make a sword for yagluth|| and so on... (i know atgeir would be viable for ||yag||, nonetheless i like to do a dedicated mining session, why not)

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also bm is a very easy fight, even if you go with the wrong weapon

sour furnace
merry pebble
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And on account of "literally physically impossible"... Where is Scales? πŸ˜„

shy marlin
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I have been summoned

keen trench
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ok i see you, but you're describing exactly the problems of a pierce resistant enemy, in a first-time-player scenario that could be seen by just throwing an arrow and seeing a grey number, then work it around 😁

south grove
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OMG I just made my first karve and it is so much fun! I love this game!

sour furnace
# keen trench ok i see you, but you're describing exactly the problems of a pierce resistant e...

i have no problem with pierce resistant enemies (though there have been too many) my only problem is with 'very resistant' bosses, (75%!) for an enemy, you can take a few whacks, expirement, then come back later. for a boss, you're gonna have to retreat (which none of us will, we'll die a thousand deaths for our honor and our gear) and go mine some more metal until you find a better damage type for the fight, all the while the game is using boss music to yell at you. It makes new players even more dependent on the wiki, which kills the suspense, especially for bosses

quasi latch
quasi latch
sour furnace
quasi latch
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All you need are the staves + 1 physical weapon per damage type

merry pebble
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I didnt πŸ˜„ i am always fine with using dmg that is not exactly perfect for the encounter

sour furnace
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75% resistance😭

quasi latch
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The first time I fought an abomination, I used an atgeir and nearly won

keen trench
# sour furnace i have no problem with pierce resistant enemies (though there *have* been too ma...

still don't see as much of a problem, stands only for pierce (slash is just resistant 50%), not a difficult boss, survivable with poison res and decent armor/food, can be done with slash, can be done with fost arrows, and if you get the weakness and use mace you'll do it in less time than you would kill a troll in early bronze age... also is logical, it's a big blob of bones, blobs and skeleton shatter to pieces with maces..

nocturne wolf
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Blunt damage is 6x as effective as pierce damage against bonemass, I think that's too much

keen trench
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makes perfect sense imo, it's its biggest resistance vs his weak spot, just don't use fire and spiky things

nocturne wolf
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His biggest resistances and weaknesses don't need to be that extreme though

shy marlin
nocturne wolf
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0.5x resistant to pierce and neutral to blunt ThinkingTroll
That still leaves blunt twice as effective

sour furnace
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Be evil and make him resistant to everything Ragnar_laugh

merry pebble
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I dont really think its that bad of a thing, teaches new players that certain encounters go MUCH easier with the right gear and WAY harder with wrong gear.

shy marlin
keen trench
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yeh, it's just personal opinion, but i don't like tending to flatten everything up, extreme characteristics makes game more diverse

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eg, as i said, i forced myself to play an atgeir focused player: no way it's straightforward, game forces me to find different solutions and temporary equipment investments to progress, i really like that

tacit crystal
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Still there are only maces and bare fists that deal blunt damage (and the latter is very slow option), could be interesting to have some other options for dealing blunt.. Maybe early game fist weapon that deals blunt (knuckles or gauntlets) or IIRC someone suggested changing battleaxes to deal partial blunt and slash damage. ThinkingTroll

shy marlin
keen trench
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eheh everyone has his favourites, i love the crossbow, so the fact i can overkill the whole ||mistlands|| but just barely tickle ||the queen|| bugs me, but i don't want it to change (same reason as above)

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bugs me πŸ₯ 🐍

tacit crystal
shy marlin
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ngl missed that part Rocky πŸ€™ ignore me

tacit crystal
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Yeah, against Bonemass, to clarify. NeckSmile

near furnace
shy marlin
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Yea it makes complete sense, and like, the game introduces you to blobs which are also weak to blunt

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and bonemass and blobs are pretty similar i feel

tacit crystal
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But then again some players go unprepared and unaware against the boss and get decimated.

shy marlin
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Makes for a fun experience imo

keen trench
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heh, it's die'n'learn

near furnace
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fighting bonemass with bow and arrows πŸ₯²

tacit crystal
warm sandal
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no one ever said this game was easy...so if new players assumee it is easy, they will quickly learn it is not πŸ˜„

tacit crystal
shy marlin
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yea all players should go and get frostner before fighting bonemass 😏

keen trench
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i downed it with frost arrows the first time ever, quite long time but not impossible

civic sorrel
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Anyone knows of a mod that shows you a Weight bar in your HUD so you don't have to open inventory everytime you want to know how much you're carrying. Also is there a mod that removes skill penalty on death, losing inventory is already punishing enough IMOI

tacit crystal
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Some obsidian and few drakes to kill.

warm sandal
near furnace
shy marlin
near furnace
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specially for newbies

civic sorrel
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Damn, that channel is all the way down with the sewers

keen trench
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total no-go, if one has prospecting in personal list of "what's cheating"

shy marlin
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yea i'm aware, should've added a /s Ragnar_laugh

civic sorrel
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Should be in Valheim Category imo

near furnace
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mods are with mods

civic sorrel
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Mods about what game?

near furnace
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well. mods aren't officially supported. hence it would be wierd to have those channels up with vanilla valheim channels

merry pebble
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Does that mean the mod issues channel will also go to the bottom? πŸ˜„

vocal rivet
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It should already be there.

near furnace
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should be πŸ€”

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but issues are issues

merry pebble
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Its among the help channels πŸ˜„ which fits, but always kind of bugged me its not with other mods stuff

near furnace
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if I could put channels in multiple places πŸ˜„

last meteor
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Hello.

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I've just started playing about a week ago, have yet to kill the first boss (collecting food and materials right now, also learning some things about building). One question (well, at the moment): If you put down a deerskin rug, it increases your comfort level by 1, if you put down another deersking rug, does it increase again, or would you need something else to increase comfort?

merry pebble
last meteor
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Ah, okay, thank you.

pliant hatch
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Just a hint: In the pinned messages are two links leading to google spreadsheets. One is a comfort guide, the other a food guide. It might be a good idea to bookmark those links and look what's needed to increase your comfort by each biome.
They will contain spoilers - in a way - so if you don't want those, don't use them.

civic sorrel
vocal rivet
near furnace
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and the amount of mod users are alot less than you think

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something like less than 200,000 out of 14,500,000

steel mica
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Which of the armour sets in valheim look the best

civic sorrel
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That's very subjective lol

steel mica
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very lol

near furnace
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plains armor IMHO

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the padded set

vocal rivet
vocal rivet
near furnace
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new one?

vocal rivet
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It was worth a try.

undone forum
civic sorrel
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Leather Scraps looks the best

steel mica
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The padded armour straight giving you knight vibes

near furnace
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I think it's the armor I spend most time in πŸ€”

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but blue and black are nice colors

undone forum
steel mica
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Uh oh its happening again

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THE MAGICAL FLOATING CART

tacit crystal
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I'm starting lean on Ask set not only for the stats it grants but also its coolness.

south grove
shy marlin
near furnace
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-# don't make that joke

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πŸ‘€

nocturne wolf
tacit crystal
steel mica
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Aint no way the lox knocked down a tree and attracted DAMN NEAR EVERYONE IN THE FULING VILLAGE 😭

shy marlin
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my fav is when ur fighting a berserker and he breaks a rock causing the entire village to investigate

steel mica
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TrophyFuling Huh must have been the wi-

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gets yeeted into oblivion

vocal rivet
steel mica
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more specifically

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"D-DEADLY FROGS CALLED NECKS"

shy marlin
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i don't think derek even knows who markiplier is

steel mica
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aw man

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atleast you do

last meteor
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Oh, I think I found them (I still don't understand a lot of what Discord offers as some of this stuff isn't found on a lot of the Discord servers I am on).

civic sorrel
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Man I fucking hate swamps

vocal rivet
shy marlin
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Call me suprised ngl

vocal rivet
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Why?

shy marlin
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idk i just figured you wouldn't know him

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mb Rocky

spice bone
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Hey so whats the point of breeding boars?

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We have a bunch but idk what to use them for

vocal rivet
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Meat, lots of meat.

stuck stirrup
civic sorrel
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Water slowing you down, sometimes it's deep enough to make you sheath weapon/shield while in combat, very frustrating

stuck stirrup
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but it doesn't faze me I enjoy the swamps

ionic elk
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Infested mines can have some super cool designs! The second one I found had the thingie for the Queen, and had such a hyuuuge entrance that I was stuck fighting there for about 15 solid minutes till I cleared out everything thanks to the magic of

shy marlin
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Infested mines are my fav dungeons Rocky πŸ€™

ionic elk
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(ize fireball cat)
Anyways, super eager to continue exploring Mistlands and becoming an absolute menace to all the fueling villages I encounter from this point CorpseRun

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As a solo player after getting so far into the game, turning off build costs in the world modifier was a reeeeal nice move too, the amount of different 'chores' and craft tables starts to make me dizzy Rocky

civic sorrel
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To restrict portal or not to, such is the question

ionic elk
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You could do it for like a weekend, as a treat. Sometimes you just hit a point where you suddenly have loads of things to do but also don't want to lose motivation to dig into the new biome or what have you, in those instances I think is worth

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I'ma have several voyages ahead in my quest to craft and max out the mistwalker CorpseRun

civic sorrel
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Yeah well, without portals, you have to build outposts and relay points to gather stuff and eventually have to carry over stuff with boat trips. On the other hand with portals it's just way too easy mode, just gotta carry a port with you and just TP everything back to base.... Dunno, i'd like to think of something middle ground

ionic elk
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Yeah, it's much more rewarding and obviously some of the best, most memorable moments come from filling out the fog of a map. Just sometimes you don't have as much time or motivation and you're just trying to finish off a task - and in those instances it can be worth I feel. Tbh I think switching it on after Plains you've kinda suffered enough xD
Not so much need for going out of your way for ores at that point, so it can be a nice adventure when you find the need to!

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Gotta say, always love perusing the #fanart channel, Valheim art is just something special - especially all the doodles of people recreating their favorite moments in game, so wholesome πŸ’š

spice bone
ashen geyser
spice bone
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I mean yea but he said for lots a meat

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And i would definitely like the lots of meat now

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But doesnt even matter now bc i got raided by 2 trolls and they all fucking died

vocal rivet
spice bone
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Okay

rocky nebula
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is it worth crafting a silver sword if i already have a frostner

tepid prawn
south grove
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If I have a chest worth of boar and deer meat is there a way to destroy spares or is having more than I need beneficial? I'm pre-swamp so I guess what I'm really asking is are there better recipes to save heaps of them for later?

steel mica
south grove
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Okay, sweet. Building more chests it is!

steel mica
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Same goes for boar meat, if you have say an automatic 2**star boar farm just feed the overstock to the rest of your wolves

south grove
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Oh you're right, I should just build a farm for them. I forgot that was a thing!

runic badger
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guys do u think i could find someone to start a new world with here

south grove
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It's a shame you cannot tame deer, seems like an animal that'd make sense. We farm deer IRL.

south grove
steel mica
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it can work with wolves aswell if you use the same design but slighty adjusted for wolves

south grove
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I've seen a couple of designs, just haven't yet got around to it as I figured I'd rather feed them off a big carrot farm I also haven't made yet rather than foraging for berries or mushrooms.

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I should now that I have a cultivator make a boar and a carrot farm now though. It's time I move past eating straight up meat, berries and mushrooms.

steel mica
spice bone
wary bane
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Using pi to work out how long each section of wall in my motte and bailey build feels good man. All those maths lessons finally came in useful!

safe tide
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i can't start my dedicated 😦

near widget
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Every time i die ingame a part of me dies irl

safe tide
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tks bro. i will try

ionic elk
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Eitr refinery becomes the substitute for trees falling on and killing you late game it seems, having to remember to eat some high HP food before collecting Eitr is essential xD

azure yacht
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or you can just enclose them in black marble or iron

honest burrow
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hey y'all! Stupid question: first playthrough got interrupted a couple of months ago, just before the 3rd boss. Would it be better to start fresh or fine to hop back in that save?

ionic elk
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Should be fine to hop back in! I just got back into the game at Mistlands after a year break, take your first few steps carefully and you should get back in the saddle just fine!

merry pebble
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Since its only before 3rd boss i would probably suggest starting over if you dont mind the bit of a grindy start, you will refresh your memory quite a bit better.

honest burrow
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Fair point, I am exceedingly forgetful lol

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Food=survival, that I do recall lol

merry pebble
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That holds true through the whole game πŸ˜„

pliant hatch
# azure yacht or you can just enclose them in black marble or iron

And how does that exactly stop killing you from the effects of refined Eitr the moment you pick it up?

You can't pick it up through the black marble or iron cage walls, meaning you still need to enter the enclosed area and expose yourself to the effects.
Which means, no matter how many layers you build around the refinery, if you collect the refined eitr with too low HP you will die.

merry pebble
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i usually just encase the refinery very closely by iron cages with little hole to fill in the sap and works great

pliant hatch
merry pebble
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Yeah that one is a bit more clunky, but can be done simply by combining the two πŸ™‚
-# And if done cleverly you actually might be able to pick through the marble, anything that auto pick-up pulls to you ignores all obstacles.

errant knoll
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After taking a big break from game burnout, am back and ready to FINALLY finish the Ashlands.

going straight into Ash from rust was rough, lots of death and corpse running was involved 🀣, however where the save left off my character was very close to critical mass gear upgrades that would allow me to feel comfortable

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Am now making backup gearsets before attempting Fader - how afraid should I be?

nocturne wolf
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Almost all of Fader's physical damage is pierce (there is one attack with a low blunt damage) so bring a root harnesk

errant knoll
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Hm, thats a slight complication to my current hybrid armor setup

nocturne wolf
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You don't have to, his attacks are manageable without the resistance

errant knoll
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Dropping from 100% Eitr Regen to 50% seems like a big blow

merry pebble
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Quite rare to find someone using missmatched armor that doesent include root harnesk xD

errant knoll
nocturne wolf
errant knoll
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Since 100% Eitr Regen from those 2 pieces combined is the same as the entire mistlands eitr set

merry pebble
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Yeah for mage it might really be better to use full mage set.

errant knoll
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It makes me feel comfortable running in close range to big enemies with the Dundr

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Morgen Jumpscare

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I'm getting better at dodging their attacks now though so I might switch off the Flametal Helm again

merry pebble
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Parry with dundr and shoot, recast bubble and repeate πŸ˜„

shy marlin
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Staff of the wilds Rocky πŸ€™

errant knoll
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I'm not so confident when suddenly multiple askvins, Archers and a Valkyrie suddenly pile on.

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Parry Morgen - fine but the shield is blown up

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Bonemass buff has been pulling its weight in getting me out of those jams though

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(Also yes, I'm aware the enemies friendly fire eachother - it feels very difficult to get that to actually work consistently)

stiff mulch
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did the game use to have a cart? is that still in the game?

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dunno why I think I remember using a cart back in the early access to carry stuff

quasi latch
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Under the hammer's misc tab

errant knoll
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I personally dislike the cart a great deal

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But that's mostly cause I'm too lazy to create paths. The games natural terrain makes carts feel not worthwhile to me

robust delta
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i use cart but don't make paths
i just hope for the best lol

shy marlin
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idk i feel like it takes more time to make the paths rather than just stick it out and cart without a path

simple folio
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I tried using a cart once and it was painful, about to try a boat instead

civic sorrel
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Just use boats....

merry pebble
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When you can, boats are usually better option (100% after you get the 3rd one and yes i am counting raft) πŸ™‚ however sometimes you cant use tham

simple folio
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i just made my first boat, built a karve, now i'm just randomly sailing

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this might take me a long time to get to my other shack to get iron cuz exploring is more fun lol

civic sorrel
#

That's part of the beauty of a game like this, you play it how you wants

simple folio
#

yup, i played a bit about 2 yrs ago but stopped when the group i was playing with fell apart, i was up to the swamp and i just started about a month ago again, solo this time and i just killed bonemass

civic sorrel
#

Yeah well I just stopped playing "early" early access games altogether

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Felt like it was mature enough to give it a shot, having fun and the game is way more complete

simple folio
#

i really enjoyed it last time i played, I just didn't wanna start over lol

quasi latch
#

Eithkyr power + HSS food makes carts pretty viable imo

merry pebble
#

Oh that makes it really easy to use πŸ˜„

forest swallow
#

When are going to come the trophies πŸ₯ΊπŸ₯ΊπŸ₯Ί

merry pebble
forest swallow
merry pebble
#

Ah, achievements, those are coming with 1.0 πŸ™‚

forest swallow
simple folio
#

any risk of me losing my boat if i just park it on shore?

forest swallow
quasi latch
forest swallow
quasi latch
forest swallow
simple folio
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lol damn those trolls, but the wind won't grab it and sail it away? doesn't seem to be any anchor options

quasi latch
#

Me when I throw down a stonecutter, encumber myself with 1 billion stone, and then the ground starts fucking shaking

quasi latch
simple folio
quasi latch
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They can, in rare cases, clip into the ground or slide up/down out of reach due to funny bugs

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Although at that point you'd be fully justified if you spawned in the lost materials with dev commands

simple folio
#

I just passed a giant on a little island lol

quasi latch
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"Oh, he's on an island, let's shoot him and see what ha- FUCK HE CAN WALK UNDERWATER"

simple folio
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lol, nope i got all my iron, i let him be and i'm going back to base asap

forest swallow
forest swallow
simple folio
quasi latch
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My first troll cave was a 1-star with a log. Got about halfway then had to do the rest with the buck naked human wave strat

simple folio
#

how to i dismantle my boat? middle mouse button doesn't work?

simple folio
#

i'll take my chances and leave it lol

quasi latch
#

It only takes about 30 seconds of holding left click

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Just stand on the boat and attack either the mast or the railing

civic sorrel
#

Can't wait for the combat rework

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It's so crappy RN

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Feels like I could do anything and the outcome would still be the same

forest swallow
forest swallow
quasi latch
nocturne wolf
lapis rock
nocturne wolf
#

Only if you're not considering the height of your attack hitbox and enemy collision

civic sorrel
lapis rock
#

the attacks do not have hitboxes that match the animation half the time

nocturne wolf
lapis rock
#

why should i need to worry about hitboxes when i can see the weapon swing

nocturne wolf
#

They all seem pretty well aligned to me, do you have any examples?

civic sorrel
lapis rock
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mace overhead swing does not hit above you or on slopes above you

nocturne wolf
lapis rock
#

ive watched that swing pass through bats so many times

lapis rock
hollow oasis
#

Hello everyone, is valheim coming (xbox pc)

nocturne wolf
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All attacks in a combo share the same hitbox, so if it didn't hit on the first two don't expect it to be different

lapis rock
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mace looks like it swings high on 3rd hit, ive been trying to use it to hit upwards

nocturne wolf
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Spear primary is a good upwards attack

lapis rock
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now i find the hitbox does no such thing?

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the hitbox should always match the animation

azure yacht
azure yacht
civic sorrel
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Imagine high grounds being a disadvantage lol

nocturne wolf
civic sorrel
#

We're clearly not playing the same game lol

nocturne wolf
#

Or maybe we're just not playing the same way

civic sorrel
#

Yeah, you must be playing a passive playstyle haha, if you had swinged a weapon you'd know you hit nothing when not on the same level as the enemy

nocturne wolf
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If I'm using a high hitbox attack against a wolf or seeker that's below me, maybe, but why would I do that?

civic sorrel
#

So all weapons are high hitbox now?

nocturne wolf
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On more extreme slopes a lower attack would miss too, but you'd have to be trying to miss if you're attacking in that position.

civic sorrel
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That's funny cause when I am below the enemy, I always hit the target, no matter wich weapon

nocturne wolf
#

That's because even the lowest player attack hitboxes are still some distance above your feet

civic sorrel
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Wich leads me saying High ground is a disadvantage

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and low ground an advantage

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Wich further leads me to believe this game's combat mechanics are clunky and weird

nocturne wolf
#

It depends on what you're fighting, I've already given Fuling Berserkers as an example of an enemy it's better to be higher against.

civic sorrel
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That's one enemy and the advantage is purely defensively, still the same problem offensively

nocturne wolf
#

It applies to pretty much any enemy taller than the player

lapis rock
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my character swinging his mace at neck height to hit something below him is stupid, not 'hitboxes'

nocturne wolf
#

You can use a pickaxe if you really want a high/low hitbox. It's a 120 degree vertical swing

lapis rock
#

isnt the slope combat changes already confirmed anyway? why are people defending this system's problems?

merry pebble
#

Why are people still complaining if its already confirmed to change?

forest swallow
lapis rock
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because someone said they can't wait for the rework and someone came to defend the current system

nocturne wolf
#

We don't know how it's being changed yet

lapis rock
forest swallow
tacit crystal
lapis rock
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it works but surely we can agree it has flaws, otherwise they wouldn't be reworking it. i just do not understand the defense of the slope mechanics

tacit crystal
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I don't see that much defending honestly, but surely it will be changed in upcoming combat update, which surely is a welcome one IMO.

merry pebble
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It is not perfect, nobody ever said that, however you seem to make way bigger problem out of it than it really is, i am excited that the mechanic will be worked on so the combat feels better, but some people just complain about things taht really doesent even matter anymore...

tacit crystal
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But as said we don't know yet how much it will change.

lapis rock
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i personally have a lot of issue with the current system, the swinging at neck height when an enemy is below you is something i hope will change

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high ground is usually more disadvantageous than low ground in my experience

merry pebble
#

It really is just a very simple matter of positioning...

lapis rock
merry pebble
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Why?

tacit crystal
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My big hammer says otherwise on top of the hill. Club_hittingπŸ’₯

lapis rock
#

high ground is usually easier to defend, often defenses are built on hills

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in valheim you want to be in a valley instead

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at least for melee

nocturne wolf
#

You'd at least want to be on level ground, being below the enemy is just going to make jumping over their attacks harder

merry pebble
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Which not lots of players do tho πŸ˜‰

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I know that when aplicable its better, but not many do it

nocturne wolf
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Is there any advantage for being below instead of on level ground that would affect these players?

mellow ore
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guys is the latest update only gonna be a combat rework or does the boss rework come with it

mellow ore
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they are gonna like make improvments to bosses thats what i meant

merry pebble
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No info about that

mellow ore
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we do tho

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dev interview happend they talked about boss improvments

merry pebble
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About the boss thing

mellow ore
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we do

merry pebble
#

Let me clarify, we do not have any info that the combat update will add ANYTHING OTHER than combat changes and new armour set.

mellow ore
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alright good to know ig

tacit crystal
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Like I always say: that will remain to be seen. But surely it will be very impactful update.

shy marlin
#

Rocky has the potential to be the best update hands down

mellow ore
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why dont the dev team hire more devs? it would help alot

tacit crystal
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Best smaller update. NeckSmile

shy marlin
merry pebble
mellow ore
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thats the must dumb argument ive heard of

tacit crystal
mellow ore
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litertally have more people working on a game meaning easier and faster work

tacit crystal
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There is this saying: Too many cooks spoil the broth.

merry pebble
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Clearly said by someone who never worked in a group... Or is just totaly ignorant...

mellow ore
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its common sense more people working on a game = more content and faster working and more ideas for the game its understandable if its a money problem but yeah

tacit crystal
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In Sweden the work culture is also different than in US for example. They want to focus on quality over quantity.

mellow ore
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quality over quantity in this argument dosent work because if you have more people that makes the quality worse? thats dumb because then most popular games with a big company wouldnt win game of the year?

mellow ore
tacit crystal
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Their team has tripled from the launch (from 5 to 15 iirc) so it's not that they haven't hired more people after the launch success, but still it's their preferable way to operate.

azure yacht
tacit crystal
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I think he is not.

azure yacht
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we SHOULD assume it's sarcastic

mellow ore
mellow ore
mellow ore
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bugs?

merry pebble
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Smiffes explanation

tacit crystal
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We can't assume it would be as simple as "more people = more content" since we don't know what happens behind the scene.

merry pebble
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Apparently we can...
Or some of us can...

mellow ore
azure yacht
mellow ore
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already debunked that next

merry pebble
tacit crystal
mellow ore
azure yacht
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so the logic is...

because the company has a lot more people the game will automatically and instantly have better quality? no exceptions?

tacit crystal
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Issues we, non Iron Gate people, are not aware of.

azure yacht
mellow ore
azure yacht
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it's hilarious

mellow ore
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debunk it then lol your being ignorant as hell

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its better to stay silent at this point

merry pebble
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Surprisingly, ones that we dont know about... xD

mellow ore
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give me some examples cuz it makkes no sense

azure yacht
mellow ore
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already debunked it next

azure yacht
azure yacht
mellow ore
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nope i mean so you stop talking cuz your just gonna embarass yourself

merry pebble
#

You mean as you did up until now?

azure yacht
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just like you are

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this is hilarious lol

mellow ore
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its a 3v1 and yall are loosing so we can continue the debate or you can keep saying some words to me that has no such sense to the topic we talking abt

azure yacht
#

this is getting funnier and funnier

"you are wrong and i am right. there, my logic is flawless"

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more people =/= faster and more quality content

mellow ore
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excactly you admited it

azure yacht
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as you have been told multiple times

mellow ore
#

more people=faster and more quality content correct

azure yacht
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i didn't

merry pebble
azure yacht
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i will make it easier for you

more people πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰***=/=***πŸ‘ˆπŸ‘ˆπŸ‘ˆπŸ‘ˆ faster and more quality content

mellow ore
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nope you didint give me a reason why would more people make the game worse i understand it only if they want to keep it that way and if thats what they are comftarable with but that makes game of the year games bad ig

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most of the goty winners got alot of ppl

azure yacht
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you didint give me a reason why would more people make the game worse

contrary to the two comments that specifically did. One of them by a developer

azure yacht
tacit crystal
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If they were to hire more people suddenly they would need to train them and that will take time from production, hence would make it slower process.

mellow ore
# azure yacht and?

those are the best games acording to people meaning big company=better game

azure yacht
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is it worth trying at this point? this will just continue to be "no no the thing is that i am right and you ppl are not"

tacit crystal
#

We still comparing Indie vs AAA company?

merry pebble
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Apparently

mellow ore
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still no arguments against me just saying im not logical and laughing emojis you guys are clearly ignorant as hell

merry pebble
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Oh my, we are really hurt by that πŸ™‚

azure yacht
azure yacht
mellow ore
mellow ore
merry pebble
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Oh you are not waiting πŸ˜„ you are just ignoring them

azure yacht
#

bait used to be believable

mellow ore
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your so delusional

azure yacht
mellow ore
#

its like im arguing against a 4 year old like i havent debunked this 5 times

mellow ore
azure yacht
shy marlin
#

🍿 πŸ€™ ???

tacit crystal
#

How it has been debunked, explain that part.

merry pebble
azure yacht
#

this is why people under 13 years old aren't permitted in discord

azure yacht
mellow ore
azure yacht
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because why saying something that has been said already? that you keep ignoring it is another thing

mellow ore
azure yacht
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that i have debunked

you didn't lol

mellow ore
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i did

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5 times infact

tacit crystal
#

Rianu linked an explanation from Smiffe, who is one of the developers.

azure yacht
mellow ore
#

you can even go back not a problem

azure yacht
mellow ore
mellow ore
merry pebble
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You really like the word "debunked" dont you? πŸ˜„

mellow ore
#

guess what you responded with this is hillarious

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then you procceded to copy paste the same thing

azure yacht
#

yeah, because it didn't "debunk" anything

azure yacht
mellow ore
tacit crystal
azure yacht
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it's funnier that one of them was said by a developer and still not going outside of "no no i am right and you not" bubble

tacit crystal
mellow ore
azure yacht
mellow ore
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thats why a bigger dev team is needed

merry pebble
wintry valve
#

you hire them

mellow ore
tacit crystal
wintry valve
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then do it

azure yacht
echo wind
mellow ore
mellow ore
merry pebble
azure yacht
tacit crystal
mellow ore
wintry valve
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go talk to smiffe if you want to give them your money, its not really with us you should argue with

echo wind
azure yacht
mellow ore
wintry valve
echo wind
mellow ore
merry pebble
mellow ore
tacit crystal
wintry valve
mellow ore
echo wind
wintry valve
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Im sorry how many viking games did Brook's work on?

azure yacht
mellow ore
echo wind
#

Brooks's law is an observation about software project management that "Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later."

mellow ore
wintry valve
#

Valheim is a late project. Adding manpower to the devteam now is likely to delay its development more than help it.

wintry valve
#

Hey we should add someone to Silksong so that it can be released two years later

mellow ore
azure yacht
echo wind
merry pebble
#

We have a saying about throwing peas on a brick wall... Feels like it would be very applicable here πŸ˜„

tacit crystal
echo wind
azure yacht
simple folio
#

how many vikings does it take to fully satiate a troll's hunger?

mellow ore
mellow ore
#

so stop malding cuz i did it once

azure yacht
#

where?

mellow ore
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scroll up you will find it np

wintry valve
# mellow ore you dont know if thats true plus what does that help with the argument im confus...

You are arguing that they should hire more people to work on Valheim. We are telling you its not a good idea.
Someone brings up an observation about how adding more people to a team working on a project late in its development does not work the way you think it work.
Valheim is late in its development project. Adding people to the team would likely delay further development. As such, your argument of adding more people to the team is seen as a bad idea.

azure yacht
#

ah, so not providing anything. How convenient...

wintry valve
#

I do not have drawings to help illustrate the argument.
Sorry

echo wind
mellow ore
wintry valve
#

Let them hire people for future project as they see fit.

mellow ore
wintry valve
#

You are not their boss. You don't own their team. Let them work the way they want. If you are upset about this, don't buy their game.

echo wind
shy marlin
#

Or just play other games while you wait for the next updates from irongate, what i'm doing Rocky πŸ€™

tacit crystal
wintry valve
#

Also I am in a bad mood. I dont know if it shows.

simple folio
near furnace
#

πŸ€”

wintry valve
#

Smiffe you need to hire more people and this guy wants to give you money for it

near furnace
#

oh

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we have

simple folio
#

I like small companies tho and they often go great work, so i'm quite happy with what they're doing the way they're doing it

mellow ore
merry pebble
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Oh my, Smiffe you have a lot of reading ahead of you if you want to go from beginning πŸ˜„

mellow ore
echo wind
wintry valve
#

You should get the japanese dude that worked on Palworld's guns

near furnace
#

japanese dude don't speak swedish

wintry valve
#

You dont know, maybe he does.

near furnace
#

so idk how could work with our team πŸ€”

mellow ore
wintry valve
#

But you can use the universal language.
Which is guns.

wintry valve
#

Also I thought you spoke swenglish

echo wind
near furnace
merry pebble
# near furnace japanese dude don't speak swedish

But dont you understand? Everyone knows that more people=faster development, no matter when they join, what languages they speak, if they are efficient or if they can work with other people πŸ˜„

near furnace
shy marlin
wintry valve
mellow ore
near furnace
wintry valve
#

more donuts = happier devs
happier devs = better end product

mellow ore
merry pebble
near furnace
#

bigger teams makes all iron gate developers quit

echo wind
near furnace
#

everyone on the team wants to work in small company

wintry valve
#

no donuts then

near furnace
tacit crystal
mellow ore
echo wind
shy marlin
mellow ore
near furnace
merry pebble
wintry valve
#

Why irongate when flametalgate exist?

near furnace
wintry valve
#

wait... I have a wooden chair, can I join your team?

tacit crystal
near furnace
#

Grimcore said so like years ago that paid DLC's are for loosers or something like that πŸ˜„

wintry valve
#

I think flametal gates, when paired, should play the same animation when the tarnished opens any gate in elden ring. It should take like 30 seconds to do it

shy marlin
#

I'd be fine paying for cosmetic DLCs, V rising does it as a way to have fans support them

near furnace
#

but some more stuff is probably comming after 1.0

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but the story content and progression won't change

tacit crystal
near furnace
#

I mean. he said "Early Axes" DLC for everyone who bought the game before 1.0 πŸ˜„

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not sure how to do that tho

wintry valve
#

1.01 updates: after nobody asked, we are adding three star enemies
waves are 4% higher
leviathans can bite

hollow crest
#

smiffe, is it possible to take some time to answer questions from a Brazilian player?

mellow ore
#

there was a dev interview and they said adding dlcs would be cool

shy marlin
#

Just talking about that Rocky

tacit crystal
mellow ore
near furnace
#

I ain't working

shy marlin
near furnace
tacit crystal
mellow ore
#

ik ik but he said someone else said that

mellow ore
near furnace
#

Grimcore. he is our Artist lead, does most of our concept art

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and he also does a metric ton of stuff behind the scenes πŸ˜„

tacit crystal
echo wind
#

Valheim horse armor when

near furnace
merry pebble
#

When we get horses πŸ˜„
So never

wintry valve
#

lox armor

echo wind
#

No no just the armor

nocturne wolf
#

We get horse armor but no horses

near furnace
mellow ore
#

imagine like a dlc of the game where you get to go to like the big tree in the sky

hollow crest
#

I'll try by email, they're just questions about mods developed by the community, according to some players in Brazil there is no feedback on how the developers respond when adding content created by the community to the game.

merry pebble
near furnace
hollow crest
#

Thanks Asatru, I will read it and get back to you.

mellow ore
#

guys in what biome does the game get extremly difficult

echo wind
#

Meadows

wintry valve
#

for me it was the mistland

shy marlin
#

imo First difficulty jump is swamp, then it's pretty linear in difficulty rise from there up until mistlands there's another bump, and then ashlands there's another bump

near furnace
#

depends on what you run into IMHO πŸ€”

nocturne wolf
#

'Extremely difficult' I don't think it ever gets there, in normal difficulty at least.

near furnace
#

Black forrest trolls aren't really friendly to newbies
Greydwarf shamans with poison are highly unkind since you cannot do anything about the poison exept die to it
2 star Draugr archers are VERY mean in the swamps
Deathsquitos in plains can be pain if drive by boats to close.

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etc etc πŸ€”

echo wind
#

Also greylings are meanies

tacit crystal
near furnace
#

yea

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and being poked by the suprise fly-jumping in mistlands is fun

#

or the war horn brain bug range splash

hollow crest
#

Thank you Asatru, I'm looking for information on how the developers believe they can add popular mods created by third parties to the original game. Many players like the mods but are afraid of using something unofficial from the game. So my question is, do the developers work with the hypothesis of doing a survey with the community and seeing which mods they would like to be introduced to the game officially?

hollow crest
#

I apologize for using google translate.

near furnace
#

we don't actively, passivly nor semi-conductive stare at mod sites etc and look what is popular or not

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we make our game as we want to make it. if a mod does simular... then great minds tihnks alike

echo wind
wintry valve
#

smiffe is tired after passively staring for so long. Gotta rest them eyes

hollow crest
#

To be more direct, is it possible for content created in the community to be inserted into the game?

near furnace
#

there

tacit crystal
hollow crest
#

I am not a content creator, I am just looking for clarification.

near furnace
#

if someone made something. we wouldn't add it to the game
but if someone has a funky idea. we could consider it

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but outside "help" isn't likely something we would add

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copywrite etc etc etc

hollow crest
#

I understand, I believe that no one creates something and tries to give it away for free, the world doesn't work like that.

near furnace
#

um. 1000's of valheim mods are free tho

#

since we don't allow to gatekeep game content

hollow crest
#

I know we have a very active community in creating mods, but nothing compares to the original and official

#

the security that the official offers we do not find in mods...

south grove
hollow crest
#

I appreciate your time, I will continue exploring the worlds of Valheim, but I have always been rooting for something good created in the community to be able to enter the official game without causing problems, it has good content, Brazilians use a lot of mods, but as I said before, nothing is as official as it is.

tacit crystal
south grove
south grove
hollow crest
tacit crystal
echo wind
south grove
south grove
hollow crest
#

Is smiffe an AI?

tacit crystal
near furnace
#

πŸ€”

tacit crystal
near furnace
#

AI?

#

Attack Instigator?

south grove
#

That's what my Minecraft worlds are for!

hollow crest
#

I'll contextualize, the discussion is that the "nexus" mods people tried to get in touch and the developers didn't respond, so I came here on discord to see if they really didn't respond, a player told me that it was an AI responding to me,

near furnace
#

most of my collegues don't have time to respond to things on discord

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and it's 11:47PM on a sunday night

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and they aren't community managers like I am πŸ˜„

hollow crest
#

I just came to ask a simple question, whether the development team looks at the content created by the community and adds it to the game officially.

tacit crystal
#

And you got an answer to that, didn't you?

near furnace
#

mods = no
ideas in suggestions = there is a chance

hollow crest
#

Thank you again for your attention, friend!

near furnace
#

first time someone called me AI tho πŸ€”

hollow crest
#

There's a first time for everything in life!

#

hahahahahhahah

safe flower
#

I wish bosses would fight each other

vocal rivet
#

It would make no sense.

south grove
#

You wanna try bring Eikthyr on a boat to fight Bonemass? Have fun!

shy marlin
#

I wonder how many eikthyrs it would take to kill Fader Ragnar_laugh

wintry valve
#

at least three

nocturne wolf
#

Their damage is low and they don’t attack fast, Fader would be able to regenerate most of the damage

lapis jay
#

long time no play...looking to set up a new dedicated server and looking for a seed with 3 or more natural maypoles...anyone know any?

lapis jay
south grove
#

You just have more options and it's easier to split up discussions about each seed.

safe flower
mellow ore
#

smiffe whats the point of making the deep north the last major update im courious why games do this

light snow
#

So they can start a new game

mellow ore
#

but it is by far the best game they made imo

#

is it their most sucsesfull game?

shy marlin
#

it's irongates only game so yes

mellow ore
#

it is?

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oh wow it is damn

shy marlin
#

Well if you wanna get super technical dvoid did work on some other games but those were largely solo projects afaik

mellow ore
#

i thought they made goat sim satisfactory and deep rock

mellow ore
#

since the game is a masterpiece

wooden tapir
#

if they have followed their vision all the way up to now, and we think of it as a masterpiece, i think we should respect their visions

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lots of games have had a downfall due to pressure from community swaying the game away from the origional vision

mellow ore
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just suggesting

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and wanna understand

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mellow ore
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yea ofc but maybe like making more money from paid dlcs or a new game would motivate them to make more content idk

quasi latch
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It's also harder to make content that ruins existing content or otherwise tanks reviews

mellow ore
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wdym give me an example

south grove
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Mojang gets shat for just about every change they make to Minecraft. Then they are shat on again for the game not changing enough.

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Sometimes a game is just finished and that's okay.

mellow ore
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yeah but they add mods that cause no purpose thats diffrent

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updates* sry

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yeah true but also i think its to early to stop making major updates since the game is extremly fun and there is always room for improvment and major updates but if thats what they are going for im okay with it i guess.

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what are the turtles supposed to mean

wintry valve
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undiagnosed and untreated mental condition asking for help, id say

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there we go

wooden tapir
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it depends on how you see this game

mellow ore
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wdym

wooden tapir
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do you play this game for more than just the bosses?

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like do you take part in building, hunting, collecting

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or do you just play through the bosses

mellow ore
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tbh creating tools exploring biomes bosses main things for me i know its kindoff like a sandbox you make your own goal but for me those are the best thing also combat

wooden tapir
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it also depends how you think about the game

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like think of it more like a release

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they are releasing a full game, like for example elden ring or dark souls, they dont plan on adding anything

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we were just fortunate enough to be able to play before the release

mellow ore
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elden ring is making dlcs so did dark souls before

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also new elden ring just dropped

wooden tapir
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i think DLC's are overdone

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games dont need DLC's to be good

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it often pushes away a group of players

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imagine you stopped playing for 6 months

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then came back to 10 new dlcs you had to buy, most people will just move on and not play anymore

mellow ore
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i mean the thing is valheim could one release 1 dlc of like a new realm instead of dropping many more imagine new bosses new biomes it would be insane but not many is necesarry

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all im saying is since the game is so sucsesfull already why not just expand it with more awsome ideas just more money

south grove
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A new realm wouldn't really fit with the story though?

wooden tapir
wintry valve
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DLCs are fun when its made after the game's release. It means you get more of the game you love.

wooden tapir
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also again, the more you add the more it becomes just like the average game out there

wintry valve
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DLCs started being a problem when it became a planned marketing scheme

mellow ore
wooden tapir
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is way more important than money

mellow ore
mellow ore
wintry valve
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ur a money

mellow ore
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its litertally why jobs exists no?

south grove
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Speedrunners don't count, I've spent just under 50 hours on my world and I haven't gone to the swamps yet.

wooden tapir
mellow ore
mellow ore
wooden tapir
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i will just not explain

mellow ore
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dude what its common sense then they should be working for free but then your gonna be homeless

quasi latch
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What did I just come back to...

quasi latch
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Multiplayer and mods.

wooden tapir
quasi latch
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And replaying with different weapons, armor, building styles, etc.

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There's plenty of replayability in Valheim

south grove
mellow ore
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but idk im not one of the people that will replay and throw away my progress just to reset after i beat the game and mods kinda ruin the fun

south grove
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You could try different weapon builds in new worlds. Try lean into magic more or less on different playthroughs.

mellow ore
south grove
mellow ore
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any game i play with mods other than minecraft dosent feel real something about it i like when its story and dev made idk how to explain it

mellow ore
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spoiled everyhting for myself watched tons of vids

quasi latch
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Valheim has marginally more story than Minecraft.

south grove
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But that's what I mean about they're all different. What does adding a mod that allows you to scroll the hotbar do to damage the story?

wooden tapir
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thats not what i mean

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you are a player that only plays a game 1 time

south grove
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How does adding a mod that gives you more building pieces damage the story?

mellow ore
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you guys arent understanding what im saying i want to play like vanilla it dosent feel real when playing with mods

south grove
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There are so many vanilla plus mods available. I play vanilla plus modded.

quasi latch
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Hey guys, have you seen the pronouns on Ali's profile card?

south grove
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Oh.

mellow ore
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its old man i got banned from a server because of that i dont wanna get banned again for a little joke

wooden tapir
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there are people with several thousands of hours sunk into the game without dlc's i think the only players that would like DLC are the ones who quit after 1 playthrough

south grove
# mellow ore whats that

Vanilla Plus is a category of mods (every game has such mods) that fit with the aesthetic, story and idea of what the game is.

mellow ore
wooden tapir
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thats not a playthrough

mellow ore
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4 servers

wooden tapir
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i personally dont even consider my run started until after swmp

mellow ore
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but none of the bosses were hard

wooden tapir
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they arent supposed to be

mellow ore
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they were extremly easy and bosses is a cruical part when it comes to valheim

shy marlin
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bosses are not the hard part of valheim

south grove
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I've done a lot before swamp, I wouldn't say the game doesn't start until then. But absolutely is it only scratching the surface of what Valheim has to offer by not playing past the swamp.

south grove
mellow ore
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well you need to defeat the bosses in order to finish the game

mellow ore
wooden tapir
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there is no finish

mellow ore
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yeah for some people that consider the game a sandbox

south grove
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Right, so you've done less than half of the boss rights.

mellow ore
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for me its not like that so im wondering how to make it more fun

mellow ore
wooden tapir
south grove
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Oh, Valheim is absolutely a sandbox, with some good progression beside it. Kinda like Terraria.

mellow ore
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none of them seemed like a challange other than yagluth but then again he is chessable

wooden tapir
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why cheese a boss

south grove
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If you want fun boss fights, don't cheese them.

wooden tapir
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then of course its going to be boring and easy

south grove
mellow ore
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wdym

south grove
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The good gear wasn't fighting the first boss with iron equipment for example?

wooden tapir
south grove
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Oh wait, I misread that. You SPAWNED the bosses?

mellow ore
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yeah excactly

south grove
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Half the game is exploring to FIND the bosses.

south grove
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Not just finding their arena type thing, but even finding the biome that they're expected to be in.

wooden tapir
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not how its looking

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based on further insight

mellow ore
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well it got boring after swamp everyone quit but we gon start again soon

wooden tapir
mellow ore
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i mean okay ig

south grove
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If you're starting again, please disable the console.

wooden tapir
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sry that was mean

mellow ore
mellow ore
south grove
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Some people can have the temptation of it for other reasons such as using POS. But if you think you can't help yourself, just disable it.

wooden tapir
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play the game without cheating, full through, all the way through ashlands, 1x resouces and then if you still didnt enjoy the game

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then make suggestions

south grove
# mellow ore yea ik also a mistake i made

I hope your next playthrough is better. My biggest tip is not to bum rush the game. Enjoy building dumb shit with your friends. Start a farm of boars and give them silly names. Just have fun and don't rush progression.

quasi latch
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So basically he played through the shortest 3 biomes, cheated stuff in, and is claiming the game is bad due to a lack of future content?

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Definitely an interesting take.

mellow ore
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i didint cheat much it was just for the base

quasi latch
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...which is still cheating.

south grove
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Just don't cheat at all for your next game and you will have much more fun.

mellow ore
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i regret spoiling so much

shy marlin
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life lesson

south grove
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To tell you the truth, spawning bosses doesn't spoil as much as you think it does. Most of the fun is in the journey.

mellow ore
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we got bored so we just went in a game and spawned bosses

south grove
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And you definitely don't know what is most or least effective against bosses either since you just spawned in good gear.

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So you still have the trying shit stage of learning the bosses as well as actually finding them.

mellow ore
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also btw i did use cheats but because of that i changed it to very hard mode

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but then i realized it was extremly unbalanced

south grove
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If you hit them and the healthbar is a little yellow, that means they're weak to said damage type for example.

south grove
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Also don't look up your seeds either. Embrace the exploration of the game.

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Feel free to create and delete worlds till you get a spawn that inspires you to build. But don't use seed maps to find things you should explore for.

quasi latch
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The thing with reading all about the game is that sure, you'll know mechanically how everything works, but you still won't have the experience of laughing your ass off in a VC full of friends after getting demolished by a troll due to a stupid mistake and trying desperately to get your stuff back.

wooden tapir
mellow ore
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i did have that experience i had it even up untll i quit but then we stopped for no reason due to jst time

wooden tapir
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@mellow ore none of us who replay are playing for the bosses, the game is about the experiences

mellow ore
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giive me some examples of ''experience''

quasi latch
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I absolutely died when that fuling showed up out of nowhere in the middle of a black forest, staggered me in one hit, and then a deathsquito casually walks up and NOPES my dumb ass out of existence

wooden tapir
wooden tapir
south grove
quasi latch
wooden tapir
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my longest playthrough was over 400 hours long, and not once did i feel bored or have nothing to do

mellow ore
quasi latch
# mellow ore giive me some examples of ''experience''

Reading about surtlings having only 20 health and seeming really easy to kill vs. actually trying to fight one and realizing how damn annoying they are and finally understanding why every sane Valheim player uses the ground lowering spawnkill cheese for them

mellow ore
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when i got to swamp biome at the start it was good then it felt dry