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all hildir clothes reduce base item stamina usage, the farming clothes as well but also give the skill bonus
oh so pretty much all the clothing that reduces stamina usage, reduces stamina usage in general not just specific to farming when it comes to that clothing set
it just comes with bonus levels so you can get extra yields
yup, and fancier clothes give the same bonus as the ever-available base ones (-15% hats, - 20% clothes), that's why you can skip silver and bronze chests, stats-wise
farming tunic gives the same -20% but hat doesn't so: "work clothes" = -35% tools stamina; "farming clothes" = -20% stam + farming skill bonus
I was just about to say lol, you only get -20% + bonus which is still very good more planting per second and more yields when harvesting
and indeed i got nothing of use out of it
that's several hours of my life i'm not getting back
Oh youll find them useful alright especially when you get to the plains biome which I wont spoil
yep, if you switch hat after harvesting and pre replanting you get the best bonus π
i'm already at the plains and almost done with it
what is the extravagant cap gonna do for me here
or do you mean the harvest clothes that give me ~1.2x my usual harvest
base building, farming, terraforming
that -35% is still really good
especially BASE BUILDING
as opposed to waiting around 3 seconds
you know i'd think the game was trolling but at this point i've played enough to know it's not π
yes, or if your good enoug to plant crop rows in one go while walking (i can't do it, tried and failed too much)
The hildir items are very useful yes but not needed but my god do they make your life so much easier
Man I wish to be a farmer in a server, them crops wil be hella alined
I plant while walking and moving my mouse so I place plants faster
i mean like... a burning tomb with an enemy that's always on fire. a MASSIVE tower sealed with tons of gates. a cave filled to the brim with werewolves at the edge of the world. all of that for CLOTHES
I refuse to use guiding lines because it reduces the amount of crops I can plant
in ANY other rpg game you'd maybe get a cool unique weapon or some special tool
like give me brenna's SWORD or something
You never know, Iron gate might introduce better rewards after 1.0
give me zil's shield spell, give me something i can wear from the cultist that makes all my attacks deal extra frost damage
long ass side quests that have me chasing the ends of the world and conquering epic structures with tough bosses and basically nothing to show for it
I was gonna say something about this but dont wanna spoil it
"the real treasure was the journey" ahh side quests
i'm pissed and i regret having even tried
again, in any other game i'd unironically think the devs were just trolling and expecting a laugh out of us
Look, you dont have to do them if you dont want to and if you know the rewards are mediocre they're a side quest for a reason, a thing you can do if you have the time or want something to do
yeah well screw anyone who plays blind
imma tell my friend about this and he's gonna make fun of me lol
Ive gone from meadows>blackforest>swamp>mountain>plains without even trying to get her chest once
you can't tell me it isn't extremely comical that these tough ass named bosses were protecting extremely heavy gilded chests that are filled with... clothes
hell i bet even they were disappointed when they stole it from her
i'm just used to playing games that reward side progression
checking around corners, getting new artifacts, doing ranni's very long quest and getting the dark moon sword out of it
Look I get it I understand, you fought a very "tough" boss and were expecting some good loot
Are fireworks and sparklers not a reward? π 
there's the whole meme "fighting the final boss after you did all the side quests" for a reason
Valheim is a video game, the point of a video game is to have fun
except in valheim's case you're dressed like an idiot and die in 1 hit
You're not s'posed to do the dungeons in rags....
i meant that's the reward for the side quests
in other games you do all the side quests and come to the final boss being a boss yourself, in valheim you do the side quests just to dress like a dumbass and die like a dumbass
there is no reward, that's the joke
Because the clothes arent meant to be used in combat π
yeah they're meant to save you a couple seconds when building and give you very slightly more harvest
those couple seconds which you spent actually putting the clothes on and taking them off
Can anyone help me I need an iron pickaxe π
which were also outdone by the hours you spent actually getting to the quest and bringing the chest back
What progression are you?
You don't have to do them, plus you get decent rewards from the two dungeons, specifically the sealed tower and howling cavern
IMHO the biggest reward of those side-quests aren't the items you can buy from Hildir, but the fact you managed to do the side-quests and get the trophies.
And in case of the Sealed Tower, also something you have to buy for (2x) 1500 gold.
Plus the howling cavern, you can get extra fenris materials to craft the fenris armour set
Very useful armour for exploration
True, although I'm usually doing the side quests one biome after the biome they're set in. So Brenna when having Iron gear, Geirhafa when having plains gear and the tower when being in Mistlands. It makes things a tad easier that way. π π
--> "the real treasure was the journey" ahh side quests (as i said before)
at this point you're just making excuses for objectively bad game design
My first time going through the sealed tower with fully maxed out silver gear was definitely quite difficulty
which is the only response i've seen so far in this discord server
hgey guys i have a question, if i remove all of hildirs markers on the map can i afterwards interact with her map again and get the locations?
asking cause i clicked the map without removing the old markers
I haven't tried myself, but you can always give it a try.
If it doesn't work, load a world backup and you should be good.
But I do know that when we had map changes Hildir's map did update, so chances are it will.
If your talking about her quests then I believe you can remove them and go back to hildir and remark them by interacting with the table again
yeah the quests aka question marks on the map smouldering tobm and so on
Well, if you can do better, I'm anxiously awaiting your game. I'm certain it'll be a hit in 5 years or so.
If I knew the least bit about coding I am confident I could do better
@steel mica it worked out fine, thank you!
Hell maybe I'll go ahead and learn since I'm somehow seeing something nobody else is
And "let's see you take a crack at it, chump!" is the most invalid response there is to criticism
yea so is "yea well if i knew how to code i could totally do better"
that is because i know i could
ok
and your response makes no sense at all? i was talking about a bad response to criticism and you're... doubting my ability or something?
whatever. game's disappointed me for the last time. my friend already wanted us to quit so i guess we're gonna put our world to rest and move on
My guy why are you still whining about Hildir's rewards not being up to your standards π
"last straw that broke the camel's back"
man clearly never completed 'no stone unturned' in Skyrim xD
It will show newest locations in case if the locations were moved to other areas due to content update.
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Enjoy the weekend!!!
hi all when is patch for deepnorth?
We dont know, but it will not bee anytime soon
?
is it possible for an Xboxheim player to connect to my steam valheim other than a join code?
does Ragnar have a son?
i miss the game π¦
aim better next time
What is the fastest way to level elemental magic. At 40 is taking 6 minutes per level
has anyone built a outpost atop ||the outer perimeter of a sealed tower||? seems like a fun but challenging place to build.
Trap stone golem into a hole and spam him with staff of frost.
Does anyone know in which quarter the deep north update will be released?
No info apart "it wont be anytime soon" sadly π
I'm looking more into foods and how they're made on valheim ngl I'd be fat asf if I lived there
you run around a lot which kills all calories again so you good. Zomboid Players know.
Black forest buffet
Deer stew x3
Thistle x5
Queen's jam x4
Woodland herb blend x1 π€€ 
when is the deep north coming i thought it was supposed to be last December
I don't think I've ever heard about dec 24 for Deep north
It won't be out for a while. Also, the devs never said anything about last december.
must of been tripping then
thought they said they were close to finishing in decemeber
In december they were just getting started, the previous update released in october
Iirc that was the time they said it is in pre-production π so maybe you confused it with that?
probably i am hyped for the new biome tho its gonna be so sick
We all are π
we are not even in ashlands
am i the only one that wishes that bonemass was tweaked? his dmg resistance combined with his poison cloud makes it very hard to do damage fast enough to kill him with anything but an iron mace, and literally impossible with an atgeir or spear, in my testing
(assuming you don't skip ahead)
uhm, don't see nothing wrong in that, bosses and mobs have their resistances and weaknesses, bringing all weapon classes to do the same amount of damage to anything will flatten up the game a lot imo, im at that point choosing to focus on a weapon or another would be a mere cosmetic choice... i love my atgeir playthru, where i have to mine some iron and make a mace for bonemass, then hang it on a wall in memory of the fight, then mine ||some silver and make a sword for yagluth|| and so on... (i know atgeir would be viable for ||yag||, nonetheless i like to do a dedicated mining session, why not)
also bm is a very easy fight, even if you go with the wrong weapon
that problem for that is that it's literally physically impossible, even if you spam heal meads, unless you abuse corpse run, and a new player has literally no way of knowing that upgrading their sick new iron atgeir and shelling out for some nice iron arrows will do literally nothing (ok, yeah, on my first playthrough i used mace but it doesn't count)
Poison resist, iron armor and you are VERY much able to survive in the cloud if you need to, even tho you really dont
And on account of "literally physically impossible"... Where is Scales? π
I have been summoned
ok i see you, but you're describing exactly the problems of a pierce resistant enemy, in a first-time-player scenario that could be seen by just throwing an arrow and seeing a grey number, then work it around π
OMG I just made my first karve and it is so much fun! I love this game!
i have no problem with pierce resistant enemies (though there have been too many) my only problem is with 'very resistant' bosses, (75%!) for an enemy, you can take a few whacks, expirement, then come back later. for a boss, you're gonna have to retreat (which none of us will, we'll die a thousand deaths for our honor and our gear) and go mine some more metal until you find a better damage type for the fight, all the while the game is using boss music to yell at you. It makes new players even more dependent on the wiki, which kills the suspense, especially for bosses
You're probably gonna love the later ships then :D
Or prepare with multiple different weapons. Valheim is a game about preparation.
ig that's fair, but how many of us got embla armor, magic weapons, blood magic weapons, a spear, a melee set, a bow, a mace, and a sword before fighting queen?
All you need are the staves + 1 physical weapon per damage type
I didnt π i am always fine with using dmg that is not exactly perfect for the encounter
or this lol
75% resistanceπ
The first time I fought an abomination, I used an atgeir and nearly won
still don't see as much of a problem, stands only for pierce (slash is just resistant 50%), not a difficult boss, survivable with poison res and decent armor/food, can be done with slash, can be done with fost arrows, and if you get the weakness and use mace you'll do it in less time than you would kill a troll in early bronze age... also is logical, it's a big blob of bones, blobs and skeleton shatter to pieces with maces..
Blunt damage is 6x as effective as pierce damage against bonemass, I think that's too much
makes perfect sense imo, it's its biggest resistance vs his weak spot, just don't use fire and spiky things
His biggest resistances and weaknesses don't need to be that extreme though
What do you propose? Bm just be resistant to pierce?
0.5x resistant to pierce and neutral to blunt 
That still leaves blunt twice as effective
Be evil and make him resistant to everything 
I dont really think its that bad of a thing, teaches new players that certain encounters go MUCH easier with the right gear and WAY harder with wrong gear.
Yea I still like bonemass being weak to blunt
yeh, it's just personal opinion, but i don't like tending to flatten everything up, extreme characteristics makes game more diverse
eg, as i said, i forced myself to play an atgeir focused player: no way it's straightforward, game forces me to find different solutions and temporary equipment investments to progress, i really like that
Still there are only maces and bare fists that deal blunt damage (and the latter is very slow option), could be interesting to have some other options for dealing blunt.. Maybe early game fist weapon that deals blunt (knuckles or gauntlets) or IIRC someone suggested changing battleaxes to deal partial blunt and slash damage. 
Embers is effectively a ranged blunt weapon
but yea i see what ur sayin
eheh everyone has his favourites, i love the crossbow, so the fact i can overkill the whole ||mistlands|| but just barely tickle ||the queen|| bugs me, but i don't want it to change (same reason as above)
bugs me π₯ π
Not available for most players at that state. 
ngl missed that part
π€ ignore me
Yeah, against Bonemass, to clarify. 
doesn't it make sence tho?
hes a big pile of bones. bones are brittle to blunt force
Yea it makes complete sense, and like, the game introduces you to blobs which are also weak to blunt
and bonemass and blobs are pretty similar i feel
But then again some players go unprepared and unaware against the boss and get decimated.
Makes for a fun experience imo
heh, it's die'n'learn
fighting bonemass with bow and arrows π₯²
True that.
Remember with my group when we fought him for the first time.
no one ever said this game was easy...so if new players assumee it is easy, they will quickly learn it is not π
Quick visit in mountains beforehand and it's ez. βοΈ
yea all players should go and get frostner before fighting bonemass π
i downed it with frost arrows the first time ever, quite long time but not impossible
Frost arrows I meant.
Anyone knows of a mod that shows you a Weight bar in your HUD so you don't have to open inventory everytime you want to know how much you're carrying. Also is there a mod that removes skill penalty on death, losing inventory is already punishing enough IMOI
Some obsidian and few drakes to kill.
#mods-discussion might know π
I'd rather not... I got problems enough with the mountains π I prefer order... one boss after the other π
Getting the early silver is kinda hard tho
Yea ik i was just being a lil stickler 
specially for newbies
Damn, that channel is all the way down with the sewers
total no-go, if one has prospecting in personal list of "what's cheating"
yea i'm aware, should've added a /s 
Should be in Valheim Category imo
mods are with mods
Mods about what game?
well. mods aren't officially supported. hence it would be wierd to have those channels up with vanilla valheim channels
Does that mean the mod issues channel will also go to the bottom? π
It should already be there.
Its among the help channels π which fits, but always kind of bugged me its not with other mods stuff
if I could put channels in multiple places π
Hello.
I've just started playing about a week ago, have yet to kill the first boss (collecting food and materials right now, also learning some things about building). One question (well, at the moment): If you put down a deerskin rug, it increases your comfort level by 1, if you put down another deersking rug, does it increase again, or would you need something else to increase comfort?
You need something else to increse it further π all carpets raise comfort by one and they dont stack
Ah, okay, thank you.
Just a hint: In the pinned messages are two links leading to google spreadsheets. One is a comfort guide, the other a food guide. It might be a good idea to bookmark those links and look what's needed to increase your comfort by each biome.
They will contain spoilers - in a way - so if you don't want those, don't use them.
It only says Valheim, not "vanilla", considering the popularity of mods that would make sense to have it up there IMO
Not especially, given they're not supported.
vanilla means "without mods"
and the amount of mod users are alot less than you think
something like less than 200,000 out of 14,500,000
Which of the armour sets in valheim look the best
That's very subjective lol
very lol
I think their point is that it DOESN'T actually say vanilla.
The new one?
new one?
It was worth a try.
My personal opinion is the padded and flametal
Leather Scraps looks the best
The padded armour straight giving you knight vibes
I think it's the armor I spend most time in π€
but blue and black are nice colors
If I remember correctly the padded helmet with the flametal legs and chest looks really good
The helmet sells it all, I really enjoy the covering of the face
Uh oh its happening again
THE MAGICAL FLOATING CART
I'm starting lean on Ask set not only for the stats it grants but also its coolness.
I am excited for the future!
Fenris
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Wearing asksvin armor is probably the closest we currently have to playing as a neck 
Mmm frog
Only if we had an option for the "nude" version of the Ask armor once teased. 
Aint no way the lox knocked down a tree and attracted DAMN NEAR EVERYONE IN THE FULING VILLAGE π
my fav is when ur fighting a berserker and he breaks a rock causing the entire village to investigate
The fuling right in my face after its investigating icon disappears:
Huh must have been the wi-
gets yeeted into oblivion
Where are the frogs?
Just a markiplier reference lol
more specifically
"D-DEADLY FROGS CALLED NECKS"
i don't think derek even knows who markiplier is
Pinned messages? What channel are these in? Do I need to scroll all the way to the beginning of the channel to see them?\
Oh, I think I found them (I still don't understand a lot of what Discord offers as some of this stuff isn't found on a lot of the Discord servers I am on).
Man I fucking hate swamps
Everyone has heard of Markiplier.
Call me suprised ngl
Why?
Hey so whats the point of breeding boars?
We have a bunch but idk what to use them for
Meat, lots of meat.
question why
Water slowing you down, sometimes it's deep enough to make you sheath weapon/shield while in combat, very frustrating
hmm I agree
but it doesn't faze me I enjoy the swamps
Infested mines can have some super cool designs! The second one I found had the thingie for the Queen, and had such a hyuuuge entrance that I was stuck fighting there for about 15 solid minutes till I cleared out everything thanks to the magic of
Infested mines are my fav dungeons
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(ize fireball cat)
Anyways, super eager to continue exploring Mistlands and becoming an absolute menace to all the fueling villages I encounter from this point 
As a solo player after getting so far into the game, turning off build costs in the world modifier was a reeeeal nice move too, the amount of different 'chores' and craft tables starts to make me dizzy 
To restrict portal or not to, such is the question
You could do it for like a weekend, as a treat. Sometimes you just hit a point where you suddenly have loads of things to do but also don't want to lose motivation to dig into the new biome or what have you, in those instances I think is worth
I'ma have several voyages ahead in my quest to craft and max out the mistwalker 
Yeah well, without portals, you have to build outposts and relay points to gather stuff and eventually have to carry over stuff with boat trips. On the other hand with portals it's just way too easy mode, just gotta carry a port with you and just TP everything back to base.... Dunno, i'd like to think of something middle ground
Yeah, it's much more rewarding and obviously some of the best, most memorable moments come from filling out the fog of a map. Just sometimes you don't have as much time or motivation and you're just trying to finish off a task - and in those instances it can be worth I feel. Tbh I think switching it on after Plains you've kinda suffered enough xD
Not so much need for going out of your way for ores at that point, so it can be a nice adventure when you find the need to!
Gotta say, always love perusing the #fanart channel, Valheim art is just something special - especially all the doodles of people recreating their favorite moments in game, so wholesome π
I cant kill them tho sooo
they're to cute a ?
I mean yea but he said for lots a meat
And i would definitely like the lots of meat now
But doesnt even matter now bc i got raided by 2 trolls and they all fucking died
You can kill them either with the butcher's knife or by enabling friendly fire.
Okay
is it worth crafting a silver sword if i already have a frostner
I think yes, itβs amazing for plains boss and good if you like swords
If I have a chest worth of boar and deer meat is there a way to destroy spares or is having more than I need beneficial? I'm pre-swamp so I guess what I'm really asking is are there better recipes to save heaps of them for later?
For boar meat save them for sausages, for deer meat just keep em and once you get to mountain biome you can use that meat to tame wolves for easy access to wolf fang and wolf hide and bonus as a companion
Okay, sweet. Building more chests it is!
Same goes for boar meat, if you have say an automatic 2**star boar farm just feed the overstock to the rest of your wolves
Oh you're right, I should just build a farm for them. I forgot that was a thing!
guys do u think i could find someone to start a new world with here
It's a shame you cannot tame deer, seems like an animal that'd make sense. We farm deer IRL.
There is a #1024264966712340510 channel. I haven't tried it, but give it a go if that is what you're after.
Building a boar farm is rather simple tbh
it can work with wolves aswell if you use the same design but slighty adjusted for wolves
I've seen a couple of designs, just haven't yet got around to it as I figured I'd rather feed them off a big carrot farm I also haven't made yet rather than foraging for berries or mushrooms.
I should now that I have a cultivator make a boar and a carrot farm now though. It's time I move past eating straight up meat, berries and mushrooms.
Its resources saving when you make an automatic one
PRO:
-save resources
-only feeds the necessary boar
-automatically kills the boars
-the items is literally ready to be taken
-its passive meaning you just give the boars a stack of carrots each
CON:
-WHERE IS THAT 2**STAR BOAR
-WHY IS THE BOAR GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION
-hassle to get the boars on the autofarm
hey, i'll start one with you
Using pi to work out how long each section of wall in my motte and bailey build feels good man. All those maths lessons finally came in useful!
i can't start my dedicated π¦
Every time i die ingame a part of me dies irl
You can ask help in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202550119191412736
tks bro. i will try
Eitr refinery becomes the substitute for trees falling on and killing you late game it seems, having to remember to eat some high HP food before collecting Eitr is essential xD
or you can just enclose them in black marble or iron
hey y'all! Stupid question: first playthrough got interrupted a couple of months ago, just before the 3rd boss. Would it be better to start fresh or fine to hop back in that save?
Should be fine to hop back in! I just got back into the game at Mistlands after a year break, take your first few steps carefully and you should get back in the saddle just fine!
Depends, do you remember everything that you've learned months ago? π
Since its only before 3rd boss i would probably suggest starting over if you dont mind the bit of a grindy start, you will refresh your memory quite a bit better.
That holds true through the whole game π
And how does that exactly stop killing you from the effects of refined Eitr the moment you pick it up?
You can't pick it up through the black marble or iron cage walls, meaning you still need to enter the enclosed area and expose yourself to the effects.
Which means, no matter how many layers you build around the refinery, if you collect the refined eitr with too low HP you will die.
Oh you can pick them through the iron cage π
i usually just encase the refinery very closely by iron cages with little hole to fill in the sap and works great
Right, didn't know that; yet through black marble as was suggested as well is impossible.
Yeah that one is a bit more clunky, but can be done simply by combining the two π
-# And if done cleverly you actually might be able to pick through the marble, anything that auto pick-up pulls to you ignores all obstacles.
After taking a big break from game burnout, am back and ready to FINALLY finish the Ashlands.
going straight into Ash from rust was rough, lots of death and corpse running was involved π€£, however where the save left off my character was very close to critical mass gear upgrades that would allow me to feel comfortable
Am now making backup gearsets before attempting Fader - how afraid should I be?
Almost all of Fader's physical damage is pierce (there is one attack with a low blunt damage) so bring a root harnesk
Hm, thats a slight complication to my current hybrid armor setup
You don't have to, his attacks are manageable without the resistance
Dropping from 100% Eitr Regen to 50% seems like a big blow
Quite rare to find someone using missmatched armor that doesent include root harnesk xD
Embla chest and legs, Flametal helm
Damage resistances do nothing if you have staff of protection active, so if you're using magic you don't need the harnesk as much
Since 100% Eitr Regen from those 2 pieces combined is the same as the entire mistlands eitr set
Yeah for mage it might really be better to use full mage set.
It makes me feel comfortable running in close range to big enemies with the Dundr
Morgen Jumpscare
I'm getting better at dodging their attacks now though so I might switch off the Flametal Helm again
Parry with dundr and shoot, recast bubble and repeate π
Staff of the wilds
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The 1v1 vs a Morgen situation isn't exactly what I'm worried about here π€£ That works for a 1v1 easily
I'm not so confident when suddenly multiple askvins, Archers and a Valkyrie suddenly pile on.
Parry Morgen - fine but the shield is blown up
Bonemass buff has been pulling its weight in getting me out of those jams though
(Also yes, I'm aware the enemies friendly fire eachother - it feels very difficult to get that to actually work consistently)
did the game use to have a cart? is that still in the game?
dunno why I think I remember using a cart back in the early access to carry stuff
Yep. Unlocks after wood and bronze nails
Under the hammer's misc tab
I personally dislike the cart a great deal
But that's mostly cause I'm too lazy to create paths. The games natural terrain makes carts feel not worthwhile to me
i use cart but don't make paths
i just hope for the best lol
idk i feel like it takes more time to make the paths rather than just stick it out and cart without a path
I tried using a cart once and it was painful, about to try a boat instead
Just use boats....
When you can, boats are usually better option (100% after you get the 3rd one and yes i am counting raft) π however sometimes you cant use tham
i just made my first boat, built a karve, now i'm just randomly sailing
this might take me a long time to get to my other shack to get iron cuz exploring is more fun lol
That's part of the beauty of a game like this, you play it how you wants
yup, i played a bit about 2 yrs ago but stopped when the group i was playing with fell apart, i was up to the swamp and i just started about a month ago again, solo this time and i just killed bonemass
Yeah well I just stopped playing "early" early access games altogether
Felt like it was mature enough to give it a shot, having fun and the game is way more complete
i really enjoyed it last time i played, I just didn't wanna start over lol
Eithkyr power + HSS food makes carts pretty viable imo
Oh that makes it really easy to use π
The same but i started in pc and now in Xbox π€£π€£π€£
When are going to come the trophies π₯Ίπ₯Ίπ₯Ί
We have plenty trophies
I mean trophies of the Game you know for example
π"You build your first boat"
Ah, achievements, those are coming with 1.0 π
Yesss sorry in spanish is trophies π€£π€£π€£
any risk of me losing my boat if i just park it on shore?
But in Xbox id achievements sorry my fault
Never know when the biome/an event will spawn a troll that starts whaling on your poor boat, so theoretically yes.
It can be destroyed, i always build a box and put the materials of the boat there
But that's the case with basically everything in the game.
For real π€£π€£π€£π€£
lol damn those trolls, but the wind won't grab it and sail it away? doesn't seem to be any anchor options
Me when I throw down a stonecutter, encumber myself with 1 billion stone, and then the ground starts fucking shaking
No, boats are immobile when your feet leave it.
oh cool, thanks
They can, in rare cases, clip into the ground or slide up/down out of reach due to funny bugs
Although at that point you'd be fully justified if you spawned in the lost materials with dev commands
that's a good idea for when I get back to my base
I just passed a giant on a little island lol
"Oh, he's on an island, let's shoot him and see what ha- FUCK HE CAN WALK UNDERWATER"
lol, nope i got all my iron, i let him be and i'm going back to base asap
In my base i have a Dock and when i arrive to a new zone i build a mini dock and save the materials in the box when i have to return open the box take the materials and go home π€£π€£π€£
My first time was in a cave πππ
nice, i'll prolly do that when i go exploring another island
My first troll cave was a 1-star with a log. Got about halfway then had to do the rest with the buck naked human wave strat
how to i dismantle my boat? middle mouse button doesn't work?
Sword
i'll take my chances and leave it lol
It only takes about 30 seconds of holding left click
Just stand on the boat and attack either the mast or the railing
Can't wait for the combat rework
It's so crappy RN
Feels like I could do anything and the outcome would still be the same
When i visit a new zone i build a mini dock with a work table and use the hammer
I wish they add a focus mode in the enemy i mean like other games you can Focus in one enemy
Do you mean like 3d Zelda-style Z targeting?
How?
fighting anything on a mildly tilted surface is miserable
Only if you're not considering the height of your attack hitbox and enemy collision
Exactly, combat is clunky at best
the attacks do not have hitboxes that match the animation half the time
And being a little higher than your enemy can help to dodge taller attacks such as fuling berserker horizontal swings
why should i need to worry about hitboxes when i can see the weapon swing
They all seem pretty well aligned to me, do you have any examples?
Exactly, figuring out invisible hitbox isn't good combat mechanics, animation should reflect reality
mace overhead swing does not hit above you or on slopes above you
The third hit in the primary combo?
ive watched that swing pass through bats so many times
yes
Hello everyone, is valheim coming (xbox pc)
All attacks in a combo share the same hitbox, so if it didn't hit on the first two don't expect it to be different
why should i need to worry about this, the swings are completely different shapes
mace looks like it swings high on 3rd hit, ive been trying to use it to hit upwards
Spear primary is a good upwards attack
now i find the hitbox does no such thing?
the hitbox should always match the animation
it already is
that's how it works for all weapons
Imagine high grounds being a disadvantage lol
They're not #valheim-chat message
We're clearly not playing the same game lol
Or maybe we're just not playing the same way
Yeah, you must be playing a passive playstyle haha, if you had swinged a weapon you'd know you hit nothing when not on the same level as the enemy
If I'm using a high hitbox attack against a wolf or seeker that's below me, maybe, but why would I do that?
So all weapons are high hitbox now?
On more extreme slopes a lower attack would miss too, but you'd have to be trying to miss if you're attacking in that position.
That's funny cause when I am below the enemy, I always hit the target, no matter wich weapon
That's because even the lowest player attack hitboxes are still some distance above your feet
Wich leads me saying High ground is a disadvantage
and low ground an advantage
Wich further leads me to believe this game's combat mechanics are clunky and weird
It depends on what you're fighting, I've already given Fuling Berserkers as an example of an enemy it's better to be higher against.
That's one enemy and the advantage is purely defensively, still the same problem offensively
It applies to pretty much any enemy taller than the player
it's not rocket science to swing a weapon lower to hit something on lower ground
my character swinging his mace at neck height to hit something below him is stupid, not 'hitboxes'
You can use a pickaxe if you really want a high/low hitbox. It's a 120 degree vertical swing
isnt the slope combat changes already confirmed anyway? why are people defending this system's problems?
Why are people still complaining if its already confirmed to change?
Yes but with no icons like in the modern games
because someone said they can't wait for the rework and someone came to defend the current system
We don't know how it's being changed yet
you must be pretty upset about the changes to the system i suppose if you like the current setup
Yesss im playing in Xbox and when launched in pc
How is that relevant? He has given examples how the current system works as far as I see it.
it works but surely we can agree it has flaws, otherwise they wouldn't be reworking it. i just do not understand the defense of the slope mechanics
I don't see that much defending honestly, but surely it will be changed in upcoming combat update, which surely is a welcome one IMO.
It is not perfect, nobody ever said that, however you seem to make way bigger problem out of it than it really is, i am excited that the mechanic will be worked on so the combat feels better, but some people just complain about things taht really doesent even matter anymore...
But as said we don't know yet how much it will change.
fair enough, at least we agree on that lol
i personally have a lot of issue with the current system, the swinging at neck height when an enemy is below you is something i hope will change
high ground is usually more disadvantageous than low ground in my experience
It really is just a very simple matter of positioning...
giving up high ground is a weird positioning choice
Why?
My big hammer says otherwise on top of the hill.
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high ground is usually easier to defend, often defenses are built on hills
in valheim you want to be in a valley instead
at least for melee
You'd at least want to be on level ground, being below the enemy is just going to make jumping over their attacks harder
Which not lots of players do tho π
I know that when aplicable its better, but not many do it
Is there any advantage for being below instead of on level ground that would affect these players?
guys is the latest update only gonna be a combat rework or does the boss rework come with it
Boss rework?
they are gonna like make improvments to bosses thats what i meant
No info about that
About the boss thing
we do
Let me clarify, we do not have any info that the combat update will add ANYTHING OTHER than combat changes and new armour set.
alright good to know ig
Like I always say: that will remain to be seen. But surely it will be very impactful update.
has the potential to be the best update hands down
why dont the dev team hire more devs? it would help alot
Best smaller update. 
nah me personally i'd go further
This hecking thing again... #valheim-chat message
thats the must dumb argument ive heard of
They have disclosed this multiple times, iirc they want to keep the team smaller because it's easier for communication and bigger team doesn't always indicate with better content (hence the communication point).
why wouldnt it
litertally have more people working on a game meaning easier and faster work
There is this saying: Too many cooks spoil the broth.
Clearly said by someone who never worked in a group... Or is just totaly ignorant...
its common sense more people working on a game = more content and faster working and more ideas for the game its understandable if its a money problem but yeah
In Sweden the work culture is also different than in US for example. They want to focus on quality over quantity.
quality over quantity in this argument dosent work because if you have more people that makes the quality worse? thats dumb because then most popular games with a big company wouldnt win game of the year?
most perfect games or game of the years have a big dev team whats your point?
Their team has tripled from the launch (from 5 to 15 iirc) so it's not that they haven't hired more people after the launch success, but still it's their preferable way to operate.
i will assume this is sarcastic
I think he is not.
i think it's 14 but yea
we SHOULD assume it's sarcastic
thats why i asked if its their preferable way then cool thats a good argument but having a bigger dev team is better definitly
have an argument to back it up then
bugs?
Smiffes explanation
We can't assume it would be as simple as "more people = more content" since we don't know what happens behind the scene.
Apparently we can...
Or some of us can...
their development and fixing is already cooked it takes 1.5 years for an update thats just dumb thats just missing out on easier and more quality updates from the games release and now not much hasnt changed they made changes that big companies could make in a month
elaborate
already debunked that next
Where π€£
Bug fixes and other issues for example.
.
talking about behind the scenes part
so the logic is...
because the company has a lot more people the game will automatically and instantly have better quality? no exceptions?
Issues we, non Iron Gate people, are not aware of.
uhm yes logic is that you have more people working on the game so logically the game should be higher quality so your saying that games for example elden ring is trash cuz it has a big company and many more examples
it's hilarious
debunk it then lol your being ignorant as hell
its better to stay silent at this point
such as?
Surprisingly, ones that we dont know about... xD
give me some examples cuz it makkes no sense
that's true
that explains why anthem, BF2042 and redfall were such huge successes. Perfect quality (because they were made by big companies with lots of people)
already debunked it next
does that mean you will stop talking? that's great
no it wasn't
nope i mean so you stop talking cuz your just gonna embarass yourself
You mean as you did up until now?
its a 3v1 and yall are loosing so we can continue the debate or you can keep saying some words to me that has no such sense to the topic we talking abt
this is getting funnier and funnier
"you are wrong and i am right. there, my logic is flawless"
more people =/= faster and more quality content
excactly you admited it
as you have been told multiple times
more people=faster and more quality content correct
i didn't
That has already been debunked π
i will make it easier for you
more people ππππ***=/=***ππππ faster and more quality content
nope you didint give me a reason why would more people make the game worse i understand it only if they want to keep it that way and if thats what they are comftarable with but that makes game of the year games bad ig
most of the goty winners got alot of ppl
couldve used this β
you didint give me a reason why would more people make the game worse
contrary to the two comments that specifically did. One of them by a developer
and?
If they were to hire more people suddenly they would need to train them and that will take time from production, hence would make it slower process.
those are the best games acording to people meaning big company=better game
is it worth trying at this point? this will just continue to be "no no the thing is that i am right and you ppl are not"
We still comparing Indie vs AAA company?
Apparently
still no arguments against me just saying im not logical and laughing emojis you guys are clearly ignorant as hell
Oh my, we are really hurt by that π
bc it's true guys, companies with little people automatically make bad games. just look at valheim being so terrible due to having being made by five devs
clearly ignorant as hell
the irony
did i say the game is bad no? im just saying a smarter move would be to higher more people
still waiting for an argument against me you guys arent proving anything im waiting
Oh you are not waiting π you are just ignoring them
your so delusional
its like im arguing against a 4 year old like i havent debunked this 5 times
nope i clearly responded to every single one of them
once again lol
πΏ π€ ???
How it has been debunked, explain that part.
Heh, i like that word so much XD
no idea, but delusional people work that way
this is why people under 13 years old aren't permitted in discord
i will expect a good laugh from the answer to this
since i explained everything and none of you have responded back with a clear argument only copy pasting one thing that i have debunked
because why saying something that has been said already? that you keep ignoring it is another thing
im definitly over 13 and im sorry your probably 50 and your time is coming up
that i have debunked
you didn't lol
Rianu linked an explanation from Smiffe, who is one of the developers.
the fact that you are and still behaving this way just makes you look worse lol
you can even go back not a problem
people are allergic to listen to reason, do you expect proper reading?
what does that prove i already said if its a money thing like cool i respect it but i debunked it already
responded to it 2 times
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You really like the word "debunked" dont you? π
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guess what you responded with this is hillarious
then you procceded to copy paste the same thing
yeah, because it didn't "debunk" anything
why wasting time to explain something that has been explained?
Inconceivable!
why copy paste one thing when its debunked already
Looking for typos, relevant how?
it's funnier that one of them was said by a developer and still not going outside of "no no i am right and you not" bubble
No no, he debunked what Smiffe said.
like i said 1.5-2 years for an update is just embarassing
oh you know it lost the moment it starts attacking the other user's grammar instead of providing something meaningful
thats why a bigger dev team is needed
Good thing that this situation has not happened here π
you hire them
like i said if its a money thing i dont have a problem with that
That's only your opinion.
then do it
didn't you know?
its opinions are the same as "facts"
When you need a task to go slower, you add more people
LOL
like i said for the 4th time if its a money thing idc
I mean, depends on the task, but in this situation absolutely π
like a kitchen with 10 cooks, obviously the meal will be 10 times faster
Hence the saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth".
why make it go slower sounds like a laziness issue
go talk to smiffe if you want to give them your money, its not really with us you should argue with
One woman makes a child in 9 months, so 9 women can make a child in 1 month
why would you curse smife like that?
debunked it already so elden ring is a bad game
I dont think money is a curse
How many games have you developed?
that might be the dumbest thing ive heard comparing a dev team that makes game with a pregnant lady is crazy
270 women in around 24 hours π
0 but if they are so lazy then hire more people lol
You keep using that word, it might not mean what you think.
bake cake at 4000 fahrenheit for a few seconds
yes i do dont worry
Look up Brooks's law
Im sorry how many viking games did Brook's work on?
wait, asking people to have an aneurysm is not ok
nty you can explain it here
Brooks's law is an observation about software project management that "Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later."
NO WAY
and what does this have to do with anything
Valheim is a late project. Adding manpower to the devteam now is likely to delay its development more than help it.
Yep, hence what said earlier: #valheim-chat message
Hey we should add someone to Silksong so that it can be released two years later
you dont know if thats true plus what does that help with the argument im confused gng
don't bother, it will just ignore this and continue saying "yeah, but i'm right and you guys are not. that the difference"
Yep, this. Also there'd be more communication overhead.
We have a saying about throwing peas on a brick wall... Feels like it would be very applicable here π
Yep, which Smiffe stated in one linked comment (debunked btw).
It's only been true in just about every project in the past - but hey, maybe this time it'll be different!
oh look, now it proceeds to insult me with emojis. This will end well
how many vikings does it take to fully satiate a troll's hunger?
but that makes everything worse not better about this law thingy
like you did 6 times
so stop malding cuz i did it once
where?
scroll up you will find it np
You are arguing that they should hire more people to work on Valheim. We are telling you its not a good idea.
Someone brings up an observation about how adding more people to a team working on a project late in its development does not work the way you think it work.
Valheim is late in its development project. Adding people to the team would likely delay further development. As such, your argument of adding more people to the team is seen as a bad idea.
ah, so not providing anything. How convenient...
I do not have drawings to help illustrate the argument.
Sorry
At least 1
The knowledge "adding devs make it slower" is very much relevant to the argument "they should add more devs to make it go faster". Turns out that suggestion doesn't actually work.
sure it will delay it by a little bit like the updates havent been bad enough but it will save them much more time for future projects imagine valheim with dlcs to another realms and everything
Let them hire people for future project as they see fit.
Not gonna happen π
Anyone can make mods
i preffer it vanilla it dosent feel like im playing the actuall game when its mods
You are not their boss. You don't own their team. Let them work the way they want. If you are upset about this, don't buy their game.
The only difference between "dlcs to another realms" and mods is about which devs make the update
Or just play other games while you wait for the next updates from irongate, what i'm doing
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They have been against making DLCs because Valheim will have the ending.
Also I am in a bad mood. I dont know if it shows.
there's also the issue when scaling a business once you hit 20-30 pplz the business operations change a lot and hiring good talent gets expensive
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Smiffe you need to hire more people and this guy wants to give you money for it
I like small companies tho and they often go great work, so i'm quite happy with what they're doing the way they're doing it
okay lets say 2 men are in a race lets say its an 100m race the slower guy has a 10m head start which is the slow small dev team and the faster man is the dev team with higher more people dev team obviously the faster guy is gonna win idk what other example to put it in
Oh my, Smiffe you have a lot of reading ahead of you if you want to go from beginning π
https://www.youtube.com/live/YvMHYOZCKQ8?t=2635s (Just wanted to share this)
thats just a lie since there was a dev interview a few days ago they said dlcs to another realm would be a cool idea
Fatastic example except big dev teams are slower
You should get the japanese dude that worked on Palworld's guns
japanese dude don't speak swedish
You dont know, maybe he does.
so idk how could work with our team π€
no getting a bigger dev team is slower but once you get it the faster guy will over take the guy in a headstart
But you can use the universal language.
Which is guns.
Also I thought you spoke swenglish
I've been working in software development for 20 years. Bigger teams do not make things go faster.
btw. Jade dropped another video which is mostly summarize of the interview
But dont you understand? Everyone knows that more people=faster development, no matter when they join, what languages they speak, if they are efficient or if they can work with other people π
bigger teams makes more meetings π
Ye I just had that timestamp rdy to go
More meetings means more donuts
but also increases the speed and quality of the game
it doesn't
more donuts = happier devs
happier devs = better end product
yes it does thats just your opinion then
Not this late in the project for f*cks sake
bigger teams makes all iron gate developers quit
But the manager says they were very productive meetings!
everyone on the team wants to work in small company
no donuts then
*To the other mananagers in the manager only meeting
Hmm, didn't see it. They speak about DLCs or just content after 1.0?
yeah infact i did say if they are comftarable with it thats fine but i also asked the question why wouldnt they so that just anwsers my question
I imagine you must have tons of evidence showing that big teams make software faster
Where? XD
"Most likely" to bits of content post 1.0 was the sentence that i was interested in and yea just content no mention of paid DLCs
go up and you will see
remember duke nukem?
those on the team with prior experience in other companies. litteraly all applied to Irongate due to the small team size where everyone knows everyone
Link it for me please π i am sure such mature standpoint would stand out from your comunication and i would most likely remember it.
Why irongate when flametalgate exist?
open the door in swamp dungeon. π
wait i will
wait... I have a wooden chair, can I join your team?
I am aware of the possible content after 1.0 but afaik paid DLCs were out of question earlier in this server.
yes
Grimcore said so like years ago that paid DLC's are for loosers or something like that π
I think flametal gates, when paired, should play the same animation when the tarnished opens any gate in elden ring. It should take like 30 seconds to do it
I'd be fine paying for cosmetic DLCs, V rising does it as a way to have fans support them
but some more stuff is probably comming after 1.0
but the story content and progression won't change
there
Gotta see how that gets debunked. 
I mean. he said "Early Axes" DLC for everyone who bought the game before 1.0 π
not sure how to do that tho
1.01 updates: after nobody asked, we are adding three star enemies
waves are 4% higher
leviathans can bite
smiffe, is it possible to take some time to answer questions from a Brazilian player?
there was a dev interview and they said adding dlcs would be cool
Just talking about that 
Adding more content, yes. But not paid DLCs, which is different.
but he just said one of the devs said its for loosers or smth
not atm. it's 11PM on a sunday night here
I ain't working
Paid dlcs they're not a fan of, which is a win for the consumer if you ask me
but email works fine --> contact@irongatestudio.se
Smiffe is a dev.
ik ik but he said someone else said that
i would buy it in a hearbeat its an easy way to make money
Grimcore. he is our Artist lead, does most of our concept art
and he also does a metric ton of stuff behind the scenes π
Yeah, referring to another dev.
Valheim horse armor when
never
When we get horses π
So never
lox armor
No no just the armor
We get horse armor but no horses
you saved yourself..
imagine like a dlc of the game where you get to go to like the big tree in the sky
I'll try by email, they're just questions about mods developed by the community, according to some players in Brazil there is no feedback on how the developers respond when adding content created by the community to the game.
So much sap
π
The first sentence alone could have been misunderstood π
yeah. send email to get a official response π
Thanks Asatru, I will read it and get back to you.
guys in what biome does the game get extremly difficult
Meadows
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for me it was the mistland
imo First difficulty jump is swamp, then it's pretty linear in difficulty rise from there up until mistlands there's another bump, and then ashlands there's another bump
depends on what you run into IMHO π€
'Extremely difficult' I don't think it ever gets there, in normal difficulty at least.
Black forrest trolls aren't really friendly to newbies
Greydwarf shamans with poison are highly unkind since you cannot do anything about the poison exept die to it
2 star Draugr archers are VERY mean in the swamps
Deathsquitos in plains can be pain if drive by boats to close.
etc etc π€
Also greylings are meanies
Surprise Lox can be devastating.
yea
and being poked by the suprise fly-jumping in mistlands is fun
or the war horn brain bug range splash
Thank you Asatru, I'm looking for information on how the developers believe they can add popular mods created by third parties to the original game. Many players like the mods but are afraid of using something unofficial from the game. So my question is, do the developers work with the hypothesis of doing a survey with the community and seeing which mods they would like to be introduced to the game officially?
we don't
I apologize for using google translate.
we don't actively, passivly nor semi-conductive stare at mod sites etc and look what is popular or not
we make our game as we want to make it. if a mod does simular... then great minds tihnks alike
Smiffe just confirmed they stare passively at mod sites
smiffe is tired after passively staring for so long. Gotta rest them eyes
To be more direct, is it possible for content created in the community to be inserted into the game?
Yeah, on off work day also.
I am not a content creator, I am just looking for clarification.
if someone made something. we wouldn't add it to the game
but if someone has a funky idea. we could consider it
but outside "help" isn't likely something we would add
copywrite etc etc etc
I understand, I believe that no one creates something and tries to give it away for free, the world doesn't work like that.
um. 1000's of valheim mods are free tho
since we don't allow to gatekeep game content
I know we have a very active community in creating mods, but nothing compares to the original and official
the security that the official offers we do not find in mods...
Oh woah, when you said boar farm I didn't realise you meant automatic...I didn't think Valheim had automatic ANTHING!
I appreciate your time, I will continue exploring the worlds of Valheim, but I have always been rooting for something good created in the community to be able to enter the official game without causing problems, it has good content, Brazilians use a lot of mods, but as I said before, nothing is as official as it is.
Automatic farm is kinda cheesey way tho, since it removes the limit of the same creatures in same range at the same time.
I do use mods a lot across different games and as long as you use each games' main modding sites (ThunderStore for Valheim) you should be fine. Just look around and see what you like and try it.
What does that mean? Remove limit of creatures in range? Is there some kinda thing like Minecraft where they just die if there are too many?
I know friend, but how can I explain, something "original" and "official", something that is part of the game, that's what I mean, there are really good mods, but I don't like to interfere with the "standard" game
The automatic farms usually are built high enough so the boars that breed are not in the range so they breed offsprings limitless as long as they have food.
Tamed mobs only breed if there's less than x of them in a specific range
If it's community made, then it wouldn't be official? If you don't want to intefere with the game than you've got two updates (at least what I know about) to look forward to before full release: the Deep North and the Combat updates.
Oh yeah, I don't think I'll be making something like that. It won't look very nice on my peaceful little viking farmstead.
Is smiffe an AI?
It could be disguised as "scout tower".
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No, Smiffe is CM aka in Developer team.
Hm true. I just don't wanna automate anything I think. At least not for my first playthrough.
That's what my Minecraft worlds are for!
I'll contextualize, the discussion is that the "nexus" mods people tried to get in touch and the developers didn't respond, so I came here on discord to see if they really didn't respond, a player told me that it was an AI responding to me,
most of my collegues don't have time to respond to things on discord
and it's 11:47PM on a sunday night
and they aren't community managers like I am π
I just came to ask a simple question, whether the development team looks at the content created by the community and adds it to the game officially.
And you got an answer to that, didn't you?
mods = no
ideas in suggestions = there is a chance
Thank you again for your attention, friend!
first time someone called me AI tho π€
I wish bosses would fight each other
It would make no sense.
You wanna try bring Eikthyr on a boat to fight Bonemass? Have fun!
I wonder how many eikthyrs it would take to kill Fader 
at least three
Their damage is low and they donβt attack fast, Fader would be able to regenerate most of the damage
long time no play...looking to set up a new dedicated server and looking for a seed with 3 or more natural maypoles...anyone know any?
the seeds channel doesn't look very friendly to me as forum, for my purpose of searching it for information. i got the dedicated server part, this is a question about seeds
there, found it for you
The forum channels are much easier to search for information. You can search titles in the search bar above BUT
You can also still search the sidebar to the right just like you can any channel.
You just have more options and it's easier to split up discussions about each seed.
Why? Heaps of other mobs fight each other all the time
smiffe whats the point of making the deep north the last major update im courious why games do this
So they can start a new game
it's irongates only game so yes
Well if you wanna get super technical dvoid did work on some other games but those were largely solo projects afaik
i thought they made goat sim satisfactory and deep rock
but i dont think they should make that the last major update paid dlcs would be amazing or maybe like a valheim 2 or smth
since the game is a masterpiece
just beacuse thats what you want, doesnt mean that is their vision of the game
if they have followed their vision all the way up to now, and we think of it as a masterpiece, i think we should respect their visions
lots of games have had a downfall due to pressure from community swaying the game away from the origional vision
what would be amazing is having more content but for free
yea ofc but maybe like making more money from paid dlcs or a new game would motivate them to make more content idk
It's also harder to make content that ruins existing content or otherwise tanks reviews
wdym give me an example
Mojang gets shat for just about every change they make to Minecraft. Then they are shat on again for the game not changing enough.
Sometimes a game is just finished and that's okay.
yeah but they add mods that cause no purpose thats diffrent
updates* sry
yeah true but also i think its to early to stop making major updates since the game is extremly fun and there is always room for improvment and major updates but if thats what they are going for im okay with it i guess.
what are the turtles supposed to mean
it depends on how you see this game
wdym
do you play this game for more than just the bosses?
like do you take part in building, hunting, collecting
or do you just play through the bosses
tbh creating tools exploring biomes bosses main things for me i know its kindoff like a sandbox you make your own goal but for me those are the best thing also combat
it also depends how you think about the game
like think of it more like a release
they are releasing a full game, like for example elden ring or dark souls, they dont plan on adding anything
we were just fortunate enough to be able to play before the release
as a standalone game
i think DLC's are overdone
games dont need DLC's to be good
it often pushes away a group of players
imagine you stopped playing for 6 months
then came back to 10 new dlcs you had to buy, most people will just move on and not play anymore
i mean the thing is valheim could one release 1 dlc of like a new realm instead of dropping many more imagine new bosses new biomes it would be insane but not many is necesarry
all im saying is since the game is so sucsesfull already why not just expand it with more awsome ideas just more money
A new realm wouldn't really fit with the story though?
some people dont care about money
DLCs are fun when its made after the game's release. It means you get more of the game you love.
also again, the more you add the more it becomes just like the average game out there
DLCs started being a problem when it became a planned marketing scheme
what do they care abt then
people enjoying their creation
is way more important than money
yeah for sure it should have an ending but its to early people are speed running the game in like 8 hours
money is still a big part of it tho
ur a money
its litertally why jobs exists no?
Speedrunners don't count, I've spent just under 50 hours on my world and I haven't gone to the swamps yet.
not really
i beat the swamp boss thats the furthest i got in like 30hrs in my world but jst think abt it when you beat the game what will there be to do?
mmm yes you work hard yes you will maybe enjoy it but a money is still a big part in jobs
i will just not explain
dude what its common sense then they should be working for free but then your gonna be homeless
What did I just come back to...
sooooo?
Multiplayer and mods.
the way society is now yes you need money to survive, but that is not why jobs exist
And replaying with different weapons, armor, building styles, etc.
There's plenty of replayability in Valheim
Start a new world, build more AWESOME bases, chart the entire map.
but idk im not one of the people that will replay and throw away my progress just to reset after i beat the game and mods kinda ruin the fun
You could try different weapon builds in new worlds. Try lean into magic more or less on different playthroughs.
ik but its still a part why it exists
dont really find that fun idk
Why do mods ruin the fun? Every single mod is different from any other? So what about adding your own mods ruins things?
makes more sense now
any game i play with mods other than minecraft dosent feel real something about it i like when its story and dev made idk how to explain it
ik all about the game dont worry
spoiled everyhting for myself watched tons of vids
Valheim has marginally more story than Minecraft.
But that's what I mean about they're all different. What does adding a mod that allows you to scroll the hotbar do to damage the story?
How does adding a mod that gives you more building pieces damage the story?
you guys arent understanding what im saying i want to play like vanilla it dosent feel real when playing with mods
There are so many vanilla plus mods available. I play vanilla plus modded.
Hey guys, have you seen the pronouns on Ali's profile card?
Oh.
its old man i got banned from a server because of that i dont wanna get banned again for a little joke
whats that
there are people with several thousands of hours sunk into the game without dlc's i think the only players that would like DLC are the ones who quit after 1 playthrough
Vanilla Plus is a category of mods (every game has such mods) that fit with the aesthetic, story and idea of what the game is.
Ayo π
ive had 4 playthroughs my friends didint really have time to play the game due to the lack of time it was boring playing alone
ill try it
u just said furthest u made it was swamp
thats not a playthrough
4 servers
i personally dont even consider my run started until after swmp
but none of the bosses were hard
they arent supposed to be
they were extremly easy and bosses is a cruical part when it comes to valheim
bosses are not the hard part of valheim
atleast for me
I've done a lot before swamp, I wouldn't say the game doesn't start until then. But absolutely is it only scratching the surface of what Valheim has to offer by not playing past the swamp.
i disagree
Haven't you only played the first two bosses?
well you need to defeat the bosses in order to finish the game
3 i beat bonemass easily
there is no finish
yeah for some people that consider the game a sandbox
Right, so you've done less than half of the boss rights.
for me its not like that so im wondering how to make it more fun
i went in a server with good gear with my friends we spawned bosses
some in this game actually is most
Oh, Valheim is absolutely a sandbox, with some good progression beside it. Kinda like Terraria.
none of them seemed like a challange other than yagluth but then again he is chessable
why cheese a boss
If you want fun boss fights, don't cheese them.
then of course its going to be boring and easy
Was the good gear pre-boss?
wdym
The good gear wasn't fighting the first boss with iron equipment for example?
so in essence you ruined the game for yourself now you are wondering why there isnt plans for dlc
Oh wait, I misread that. You SPAWNED the bosses?
yeah excactly
Half the game is exploring to FIND the bosses.
nope just suggesting and asking
Not just finding their arena type thing, but even finding the biome that they're expected to be in.
well it got boring after swamp everyone quit but we gon start again soon
dont bother, i doubt you will finish
i mean okay ig
If you're starting again, please disable the console.
sry that was mean
yea ik also a mistake i made
np
Some people can have the temptation of it for other reasons such as using POS. But if you think you can't help yourself, just disable it.
play the game without cheating, full through, all the way through ashlands, 1x resouces and then if you still didnt enjoy the game
then make suggestions
I hope your next playthrough is better. My biggest tip is not to bum rush the game. Enjoy building dumb shit with your friends. Start a farm of boars and give them silly names. Just have fun and don't rush progression.
So basically he played through the shortest 3 biomes, cheated stuff in, and is claiming the game is bad due to a lack of future content?
Definitely an interesting take.
i didint cheat much it was just for the base
yes, sums it up
...which is still cheating.
Just don't cheat at all for your next game and you will have much more fun.
i regret spoiling so much
life lesson
To tell you the truth, spawning bosses doesn't spoil as much as you think it does. Most of the fun is in the journey.
we got bored so we just went in a game and spawned bosses
And you definitely don't know what is most or least effective against bosses either since you just spawned in good gear.
So you still have the trying shit stage of learning the bosses as well as actually finding them.
also btw i did use cheats but because of that i changed it to very hard mode
but then i realized it was extremly unbalanced
If you hit them and the healthbar is a little yellow, that means they're weak to said damage type for example.
That doesn't mean much. Just don't cheat and start playing normal. If it feels too easy, then up the difficulty.
Also don't look up your seeds either. Embrace the exploration of the game.
Feel free to create and delete worlds till you get a spawn that inspires you to build. But don't use seed maps to find things you should explore for.
The thing with reading all about the game is that sure, you'll know mechanically how everything works, but you still won't have the experience of laughing your ass off in a VC full of friends after getting demolished by a troll due to a stupid mistake and trying desperately to get your stuff back.
guy has never experienced the death run through the plains as 3 squitos chase you
i did have that experience i had it even up untll i quit but then we stopped for no reason due to jst time
@mellow ore none of us who replay are playing for the bosses, the game is about the experiences
giive me some examples of ''experience''
Backup ||root shirts|| and/or ||anti sting concoctions|| come in handy. Unless you're like me and run into a micro plains biome while going to the closest Elder spawn because it's as far away from spawn as fucking possible...
I absolutely died when that fuling showed up out of nowhere in the middle of a black forest, staggered me in one hit, and then a deathsquito casually walks up and NOPES my dumb ass out of existence
those are things you will have to go do yourself
TRUE
or you are sailing looking for a swamp, but zone out from the voyage and venture too close to a plains and just hear the " BZZZZZZZZZ" as a squito comes to kill you
You just said you regret how much youβve spoiled yourself. Having heard that donβt expect people to spoil you further. Just go and play!
Oh no, I'm terrified of that stuff while sailing. It's when I'm trying to keep an eye out for trolls and abominations and whatnot that they get me.
i have played through the plains 3 times and all the way through the game 1 time and every playthrough was different and held different experiences that i still remember
my longest playthrough was over 400 hours long, and not once did i feel bored or have nothing to do
idk then its like a mindset issue for me
Reading about surtlings having only 20 health and seeming really easy to kill vs. actually trying to fight one and realizing how damn annoying they are and finally understanding why every sane Valheim player uses the ground lowering spawnkill cheese for them
when i got to swamp biome at the start it was good then it felt dry