valheim-chat

[vital umbra]

I have never liked using bloodstone, i just don't care about taking that kinda silly risk.

[glacial sedge]

red seems fantastic

[vital umbra]

I only used the bloodstone sword because i thought it looked the coolest, i wanna keep my health.

I then switched to the dyrnwyn....because i thought it looked the coolest.

[glacial sedge]

i do like the red hues of bloodstone so i might choose it also on the basis of it looking cool

[glacial sedge]

i mean who could turn down a flaming sword

[gray sand]

It is.
In melee it just amounts to using normally if you're someone who gets hit. Or if you're good at blocking/dodging you just allow yourself to get hit once every so often.

[vital umbra]

blue is more reliable.

[gray sand]

That is subjective.

[vital umbra]

why, low health = close to dying...

[gray sand]

75% HP =/= low health.

[vital umbra]

Bleh

[glacial sedge]

it's 0.2% more damage per 1 hp lost right?

[vital umbra]

It works fine, its better than green, but blue still better.

[gray sand]

Ah, the universal "I admit I am wrong" aka "Bleh"

[vital umbra]

i like status effects over raw damage

[gray sand]

Ye. Ling damage beats it above 75% HP.

"Optimal" setup if you want to assign terms would be have one of each. Use the Ling on groups and switch to Blood when you're down to the last 2 enemies or vs. a single, powerful enemy.

[vital umbra]

lightning berserkir axes for the win

[gray sand]

Which, I do carry both Axes.

And I do switch when down to 2 enemies or vs. a single, powerful enemy.

[vital umbra]

In my last main character which i lost to some local save on another character, had lightning bow, axes, shield & dyrnwyn, that was the loadout.

[gray sand]

I would never put Ling on a bow.
But that is a preference based on math and observation.

[vital umbra]

works just fine

i remember also my last playthrough, first time through the ashlands iiii...looted half of the entire ashlands so i could get every variant of every fucking weapon and fully upgrade them 😭

I think literally like half or a third of the biome

[fleet temple]

anyone got tips for fighting the queen

[gray sand]

Food.

And then bring multiple weapons.

[shy marlin]

Are you using magic or melee?

Regardless of strategy, bring ooze bombs or preferably bile bombs

Really good tool for handling broods (5 stamina per use of bomb)

[gray sand]

Bombs are good.
Demolisher and Himmin recommended for adds as well.

And bring a second weapon as your main "hitting boss" option.

Food remains the most important factor.

[fleet temple]

melee

oh my god my stamina is recovering so slow

[shy marlin]

Bring root harnesk, lingering stam mead, food is up to you (I recommend 2 hp 1 stam if this is your first time), himmin, mistwalker, spinesnap (frost arrows) and bombs.

[fleet temple]

kk

[vital umbra]

avoid taking damage

[shy marlin]

Tasty meads are great too, they stack with lingering stamina mead

[fleet temple]

ah thanks, didn't think of that

[vital umbra]

make sure to deal lots of damage to her

when she dies you defeat her and things happen with stuff and you get objects

and its all like cool and stuff

[fleet temple]

wow thanks
idk if a boss has ever done that

[gray sand]

Bring at least 1 stack of Tasty Mead.

[fleet temple]

kk

[vital umbra]

If you take too much damage then you die, and that means you lose, but you also respawn, so you didn't really lose, your soul just tactically retreated from your body.

[random kayak]

Uhhh before Ashlands and around when mistlands released

I just wonder if the spears got any changes because of how clunky they are

[gray sand]

Zero changes.
And define clunky? Because I recently started using them and they have quickly become my favorite weapon in the game.

(After avoiding them for years)

[random kayak]

Oh it's just I thought I could aim them LMAO

It's a spear and not a polearm so it's lightweight and smaller so it makes sense they would use a hammer grip style of stabbing because of the leverage

28 stab wounds

[gray sand]

🤔

[random kayak]

Though I would have preferred a grip that came with both hands or with a shield gripping from the middle position down to the waist so it's basically a thrust

[brazen charm]

anyone else think sconces are a bit too loud?

[long locust]

I mean, the place sound is I guess?

but I never notice them actually making noise when lit, and I use them everywhere

[broken wolf]

hi all
Are there any Ukrainians here?
I'm looking for a company to play with but I don't know English well

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[rain flare]

Just listening to the Ashlands oceanic theme in Sea minor
Truly and epic for the ages that one
🥰🥰🥰

[gray sand]

Inb4 Deep North soundtrack is heavy metal 😛

[vital umbra]

really makes you think doesn't it

[glacial sedge]

it doesnt.

[near furnace]

that would be nice

[glacial sedge]

what do you think about giving the deep north some spooky vibes?

[gray sand]

Why?

[near furnace]

yeah why?

we don't need a haloween biome 😄

[random kayak]

Hey guys I managed to get some early game boars but I can't butcher them?

Do I need a specific item?

[gray sand]

Pre-copper you have to turn on Friendly Fire.

Post-copper you build the Butcher Knife.

[near furnace]

turn on friendly fire, or get the slaughter knife

[gray sand]

Smiffe, you should have actually named it the slaughter knife. 😦 That would have been cooler.

[random kayak]

Oh Maybe I should just get the slaughter knife the Honse with antlers is a pushover from what I remember. I think I just knifed him to death

[glacial sedge]

ok not spooky as in halloweeny but as in a feeling. like, adventuring through the biome should make you feel tense and afraid of what could be around the corner or beyond what you can see in a blizzard. makes not paying attention to what youre doing more risky as something could be creeping up behind you in the snow

[gray sand]

Ok but... why?

[glacial sedge]

let me get to that

[random kayak]

I'm not British but if I was I would probably get a 50% damage bonus on knives

[flat vector]

hello chat

[near furnace]

you'll see what we end up doing with deep north.
it won't be a easy biome for sure 😄

[gray sand]

"not easy" thankfully doesn't have to equate to "induces fear"

[flat vector]

awww an interview i watched said it might be more on the chill side

[near furnace]

I'd be more affraid of the Yggrasil branch falling down on my head to be honest 🤔

[gray sand]

Yeah, but what Red is pushing for is "Alien Isolation in snow"

And plz for the love of Odin, no.

[near furnace]

I played music while finishing alien isolation 🤔

[glacial sedge]

aight dont speak for me, im not pushing for hard horror

[gray sand]

👍
Some of us do not want anything to do with the horror genre whatsoever.
💛

[near furnace]

it's very hard to replicate the fear players get from the first encounter with a blue troll 😄

[vital umbra]

Ehh

[vital umbra]

thats a strong position to stand, you don't like spooky things??

[glacial sedge]

it adds a unique challenge not seen anywhere else in the game (ashlands is more of a rushing to get a base down, mistlands has the verticality aspect, swamp has you dealing with constant wetness, etc)
it leads to more engagement with the game but in a different manner than just pure difficulty
it doesnt need to be the whole biome, just some tones here and now

[vital umbra]

frost caves are spooky as fuck when i'm in light armour 🤣

[near furnace]

I'm not a horror-game fan either.
I do like the Alien franchise tho 🤔

[gray sand]

How to put this...

Fuck. No.

[random kayak]

Horror games are scary

[warm sandal]

We got ghosts and zombies and bugs and all the scary stuff .. we do not need spooky (aside from a jack-o-turnip) in my humble opinion 😄

[vital umbra]

the game already has scary things, wraiths, abominations, the ashlands at night, the mist of the mistlands... like...

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-creepy-scary-gif-15017835

[random kayak]

I am not playing alien isolation because my heart will actually explode

[vital umbra]

I hope the deep north is kinda scary, cuz that seems only fitting for a variety of reasons..

[warm sandal]

i am not playing any horror game because i would not be able to sleep anymore 😄

[vital umbra]

🗿

[near furnace]

I'm the oposite. I never get scared 😄

[warm sandal]

the swamps are scary as it stands imho...

[gray sand]

I don't find Deep North being soft horror fitting for any conceivable reason beyond someone just wanting horror for the sake of it.

[near furnace]

so all those "scary" things just feel cringy

[vital umbra]

i am neither of these positions, i want to have the shit scared out of me....or have something attempt to 😤

[near furnace]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/356670/Spookys_Jump_Scare_Mansion/

here you go. enjoy 😉

[random kayak]

God the spear is actually so goofy looking the way it's held 😭

[vital umbra]

i don't really get jumpscared...i get like, stressed out by tense situations, and i get fearful in anticipation of something happening..

[gray sand]

Yes, but if you look past that it has one of the (if not the) highest attack speeds in the game.

[vital umbra]

I would love if the deep north had a bit of an ominous vibe, end-game snowy wasteland...

[warm sandal]

then go play some horror game ? I mean .. valheim is not in that genre as far as I am concerned it has scary enemies but no horror elements in my opinion...

if it would turn horror i would have to stop playing because i can not take that 😄

[vital umbra]

The ashlands at night with a full inventory and no light source was a fucking experience...

[random kayak]

Yeah I mean try doing thrusts with your arm and then try doing it using the hammer grip. The hammer grip is faster and has more leverage

[nocturne wolf]

Any faster and it would be too fast

[vital umbra]

the swamps at night are not ominous when you have like bronze armour?, worrying about a wraith?

[gray sand]

Oh there is a joke about training the up-down hammer fist motion in there somewhere... but Smiffe will time me out if I make it 😄

[random kayak]

We need to go faster

[vital umbra]

Thats the kind of vibe i mean, Although of course i am just way too good to get scared by anything anymore in the game 😎....but i kinda miss that thrill..

fighting a troll without knowing how resistances or rolling or parrying worked..

[warm sandal]

got jumpscared by one two days ago swooshing in from behind me... me heart was racing for like 15 min after ...that is all the horror i can handle 😄

[gray sand]

Found a single open-air part of the Meadows that has 56 Dandelions in it.
Yup, marking this for later.

[vital umbra]

ehh?...why so enthusiastic for them?

[warm sandal]

chickin fodder

[vital umbra]

beech seeds

[gray sand]

Feasts? And I remember one of the meads needs them.

[warm sandal]

and chickins eat them

[gray sand]

Meadows feast is like 4 Dandelions per iirc.

[vital umbra]

how many meadow boars you making man?...

One of them lasts you 500 minutes..

[warm sandal]

no i am kinda sad to leave this discussion... but i need to get a move on and get real money from the bank as my beverage delivery service only accepts hard cash... bummer

[gray sand]

I also need to fill the row in the chest dedicated to them, so that's like 4 stacks at least.

[random kayak]

Okay so

If I don't look for boars I can find 20 of them on my ass

BUT IF I LOOK FOR BOARS I get none...

[vital umbra]

yeah, boar spawn eggs when..

[gray sand]

spawn boar <level> <amount> 😛

[near furnace]

The game knows 👀

[vital umbra]

smiffe aaddd spawn eggs

[near furnace]

when I play. I just tell the game "I will go out picking mushrooms"

and I run into 100's of deer and boars

[gray sand]

I also bought 3 "serving tray"s because I thought you placed them on the table...

[random kayak]

Okay the spear is now my favorite funny. I love throwing it point blank LMAO

[vital umbra]

add like pokeballs so i can throw wild askvin at my friends

[gray sand]

Me with Blueberries.

[random kayak]

I just found 2 1 star boars. Taming time

I love how one of the rune stones says "go to them quietly" but in actual reality is you piss them off and let them chase for 10 miles back to your base

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[vital umbra]

hiya

[gray sand]

SwampFeast is longer than the damn table 😭

[random kayak]

I just lost the other boar...

[nocturne wolf]

It should be around where it spawned

[random kayak]

No it was following me but it veered off when I got I back to base

[gray sand]

Going through Burial Mounds with Stagbreaker...

[nocturne wolf]

Boars try to return to where they spawned if they lose aggro

[gray sand]

ALL SHALL KNOW THE POWER OF THE ORI

[random kayak]

That's a LOOOONG trip

[nocturne wolf]

It won't be able to get all the way there if it goes too far from you, as it will be unloaded.

[random kayak]

Lemme see if I can find it

[random kayak]

Oh I think it's gone then...

It's fine if I can breed the 1 star I think there's a chance to get a 1 star

[novel wigeon]

yes it is 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

It doesn't despawn or anything, it just stops moving until you're close again

[novel wigeon]

then you just kill the ones with no star and you are guarnteed only stard ones from then on

[wise latch]

Were the big stonehenge rock circle things ever meant to do anything or be used for anything, or are they just there for aesthetic

[gray sand]

Aesthetic.

[novel wigeon]

they give yag location

[nocturne wolf]

They have a chance to spawn a vegvisir or fuling berserkers

[gray sand]

Anyone else think Yellow Mushrooms need more uses?

[novel wigeon]

true

[tacit crystal]

Another one 🙌

[novel wigeon]

I really wish they add crafttable for dismantlig gear. Would love to dismantle gear for the materials back

[nocturne wolf]

They're now used in berserkir mead

[novel wigeon]

or even just half the materials back

[gray sand]

It's a start.
Gives them 1 use I 🙂

[upbeat crypt]

Black Metal Chests were added 3 years ago?

[tacit crystal]

Propably during H&H patch when Tar were introduced.

[random kayak]

I lost it...

[nocturne wolf]

They're also used to make both currently available stamina meads, and are good food before making a cauldron

[gray sand]

Both stamina meads are worse than Tasty.
So they are used until the player understands math 🤷‍♂️ I guess that counts as a use?

I will give you they are an upgrade to run HSS pre-Cauldron though.

[vital umbra]

i like to use stamina meads still, you need to stop doing things to use tasty mead.

sometimes that just does not work out

increasing stamina regen versus give me stamina now i need it now.

[gray sand]

The sole scenario where stamina pot is better than Tasty is swimming.

[nocturne wolf]

And fishing, and harpooning

[gray sand]

Interesting.

[vital umbra]

If in a situation where i cannot easily avoid the enemy, stop blocking sprinting dodging or attacking, i cannot benefit from the faster stamina regen.

[random kayak]

Wait are hairs now visible with helmets?

[warm sandal]

i wonder w hat all that small updates are that are applied to the game i find one every few days to be installed, but it never says anything about them anywhere on steam... maybe they are all hotfixes with super small stuff being deployed? Does anyone know?

[vital umbra]

If i can find the opening to kite the enemy, get atleast a few meters away, i think tasty mead is better yes...

[random kayak]

Okay maybe I should have given my viking hair...

[vital umbra]

hildir table thing

i forgot to sleep

[tacit crystal]

There is a way to chance appearance when you find one Merchant.

[vital umbra]

goodnight 🧡

[random kayak]

Hildir?

[gray sand]

Hildr is the second merchant.

[random kayak]

Damn Hildir is going to give my viking a fresh fade? That's 🔥

[gray sand]

You find her, she gives you quest locations, you go kill bosses, she sells you stuff.

[warm sandal]

the barber kit can be bought without doing any bosses prior

[gleaming musk]

I found her since since some time but I didnt know she gives you quest locations?

[random kayak]

Something something that one really bad miles morales comic about him becoming Thor the god of thunder and saying

"BY ODIN'S FADE" 🔥

[nocturne wolf]

There's a map near her you can interact with

[tacit crystal]

There is a small map table in front of her, clicking it gives you locations on your map.

[gleaming musk]

My god

[tacit crystal]

Just to add, there are some new hair and beard styles that are only available with the Barber kit table.

[warm sandal]

i need to go check it out 😄

also i am debating if i should record more episodes for youtube or just go play my private game or ask my son to go on with our game together or go to the kitchen and make some cake or something or go draw some... indecisive 😦 coffee first maybe i can decided if i got enough caffein 😄

[gleaming musk]

Just did it, I actually found one of those locations by accident and got the silver chest lol, ty all

[random kayak]

The next question would be how the hell am I going to find hildir

The first merchant in the black forest is already hard enough to find that it took me like 5 hours to find one on my last playthrough

[distant hornet]

11

[warm sandal]

I usually stumble across the markings while i am out and about sailing and finding new land 😄

[random kayak]

Are there things I should do before I kill the deer?

[tacit crystal]

Hildir is easier than Haldor IMO. She spawns at Meadows 3000 to 5100 meters from center. While Haldor has larger area where he can spawn (1500 to 8000 meters) since you can find Black Forest to 8000 meters from center.

[random kayak]

I have almost every item from the stone age minus the cape and helmet

And leveled my spear to 3 and my axe to 3

Okay nvm I made the cape and I look dripped up

I won't wear it because it looks a little odd

[tacit crystal]

You sound like you are ready to chase the boss.

[random kayak]

Though it's mega drip 🔥

It just doesn't go well with the fit

I'm going to poke it to death with a long pointy stick

[gray sand]

NO CAPES!

[random kayak]

15 days into the stone age yay!

Wait I can't upgrade the antler pick?

[nocturne pasture]

yes

[gray sand]

No. You just bring multiple so when one breaks you switch.

Bronze pick and beyond are upgradeable.

Metal picks are all better for mining ores.

Antler pick remains the best for terraforming.

[random kayak]

How many antler picks should I bring heading to the dark forest and praying to god almighty that a troll can eff off

[spark summit]

is it wanted that the fermenter animation doesn't stop when it's finished ? that could help...

[gray sand]

I would say zero.

Do an exploration run first, marking where you find the ore.

Return later on a mining-only run with the 3 you can build from killing Eikthyr.

[random kayak]

Okie!!!

Hopefully I can find a catacomb and explore aswell

[gray sand]

Getting in the habit of having a specific goal when leaving base and taking only what you need for that goal is good practice for inventory management.

Otherwise you run into the "Irongate plz, your inventory system sucks because it doesn't allow me to carry one of every single thing and also have space to pick up every possible thing."

[random kayak]

I bought a club Incase the catacombs get rough

[errant knoll]

Take your first few catacombs slowly and cautiously

[gray sand]

Personally I do exploration run where I'm marking all ores, dungeons, and blueberry clusters.

Then I will set out to clear dungeons (as the items gained stack, so you can do multiples in one run without a space concern).

Then I will do a mine-specific run.

[random kayak]

AS SOON AS I ENTER THE FOREST A TROLL ENDS UP SPAWNING

[errant knoll]

It's quite easy to feel that they're going quite well and get over confident. That's when you die

[gray sand]

Spears slaughter Trolls.

[random kayak]

Okay I might have to either bow it down, or start spearing the effer

[gray sand]

Stab them in the dick and roll their attacks.

[errant knoll]

Knives are pretty decent vs trolls too

But that requires getting close and that has risks

[gray sand]

I bought a love potion from the witch so I should go troll hunting...

[random kayak]

Hours of Elden Ring have prepared me for this moment

[gray sand]

And I do have a max rank Bronze Spear.

Troll carpet when? 😭

[random kayak]

I killed it with a spear with like getting hit once because a greywarf butted in and hit me from my dodge

[gray sand]

Greydwarves are one of the most annoying enemies in any game I have played.

[nocturne pasture]

wdym?

I guess you werent in other Biomes so far?

[nocturne wolf]

What's more annoying from other biomes than a greydwarf?

[tacit crystal]

Greydwarves are the most annoying and I've played over 2,2k hours.

[gray sand]

No. I've been playing for years and beaten every boss multiple times without ever going to other biomes.

[plush umbra]

drakes

[nocturne pasture]

ah its a meme. its not about objectivitiy here

[gray sand]

I am not memeing.

[plush umbra]

well, annoyance doesn't always correlate to which enemy has the highest stats

[gray sand]

I am saying that I find Greydwarves annoying as fuck and one of the most annoying enemies in any game I have played in the past 20+ years.

[nocturne pasture]

Im saying you are wrong

[plush umbra]

greydwarfs have a ranged attack, weak damage all around, AI that has them avoid you for a lil while and they accompany you if you live in meadows or black forest from after eikthyr all the way to the end

[gray sand]

That's now how opinions work.

[nocturne pasture]

yes just memeing

[gray sand]

So... you're a troll. Got it.

[tacit crystal]

Iron Gate succeeded creating the most annoying creature in gaming history

[nocturne pasture]

better trolling that make the most stupid claim

[plush umbra]

they make a good candidate for most annoying~~, but i have to repeat i'll give that spot to drakes because i don't use bows~~

[gray sand]

Their ai is what makes them annoying. 😭

[plush umbra]

it's a very common opinion

[tacit crystal]

Althought... Will-o-Wisp in TES IV: Oblivion... 👀

[plush umbra]

ooohoho clannfear

[nocturne wolf]

Drakes and gjalls

[gray sand]

Ah the classic "I disagree, so you are stupid." Love that one...

[nocturne pasture]

nah, I can just claim what I want. no reason to elaborate

[gray sand]

🙄

Moving on...

[plush umbra]

considering the thing we're making claims about is opinions...yes? yes you can? you're the only one who can decide your opinion

[tacit crystal]

There is https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202263390056357928 channel for memesters. 👍

[gray sand]

Also elaboration was never asked for, you just jumped straight to assuming I'm a new player and then saying it was stupid.

[tacit crystal]

Gjalls are cool tho. They are one of my favorite enemies.

[nocturne pasture]

oh now you want discuss

[nocturne wolf]

They're cool, but can't be killed effectively without a ranged attack

[gray sand]

Starred gjalls have really good coloring.

[tacit crystal]

Starred Gjalls are terrifying tho. 🥲

[random kayak]

I love getting ganked my 10 GREYDWARVES WITH 1 2* 😭

[gray sand]

Purple seekers are pretty.

[plush umbra]

by that point i have arbalest so gjalls aren't too big a problem. also because they're an actual enemy that can like...harm me, so there are stakes. meanwhile i tend to just ignore drakes and take them for a walk over the mountains because dealing with that non-threat wastes time

[tacit crystal]

2 Star Seeker looks like it have taken some roids.

[gray sand]

Winter will force the Arbalest to be good or die trying 😁

[plush umbra]

it's good if your playstyle compliments it

[glacial sedge]

Ah, the classic “You disagree so you must be a troll”…

[gray sand]

it's good if you hate having higher DPS 😋

[near furnace]

be nice of I'll get'cha both

[plush umbra]

welll, considering breaking points, in many cases arbalest can finish a fight quicker than bows

[gray sand]

I've already moved on to other topics 🤷‍♂️

[tacit crystal]

Equip a torch so they get afraid of your fire.

[plush umbra]

actually that's less a matter of breaking points and more "crossbows have higher per-shot damage, so they get to make use of the backstab bonus for more of their total-damage-per-fight"

[random kayak]

I don't like how GREYDWARVES are smart enough to kite you and work as a team by covering the ones going for the melee with rocks. But I already killed them just by kiting them slowly

[near furnace]

build a bonfire, and they will dance around it 😉

[gray sand]

So... matching the letters...

Bows are for Bosses?

[random kayak]

They're dead

[plush umbra]

yepp

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, but at least when there is fire they don't attack you (besides throwing rocks). For the future knowledge.

[gray sand]

And for non-bossed we have... Spears 😉

[plush umbra]

generally i'd say: crossbows are great for people who want to initiate the battle from range and then switch to melee, bows are great for people who want to do the entire battle with ranged

[gray sand]

Spears initiate from range and then you pick it up to switch to melee 😁

[random kayak]

Oh I used the torch to scorch them to death

[plush umbra]

initiate by making insane noise while not actually hitting anything ahem

[gray sand]

Skill issue ahem

[random kayak]

I figured "wait... If they're made of trees... Does that mean I can just burn them?"

[tacit crystal]

That's also an option. Torches break fast tho so keep that in mind.

[random kayak]

And indeed they burn

[plush umbra]

i'm joking, but it's not entirely wrong, since i'm relying on the crossbows' technically infinite range - their bolts don't curve down

[tacit crystal]

Fire arrows are effective against them too.

[gray sand]

Only takes 8 torches to kill Elder.

Which is fun. And a good way to level clubs.

[tacit crystal]

I like Spear and Crossbow combo for some enemies, like Valkyries and Gjalls.

[gray sand]

The first and only problem I have encountered with spears just happened today when I arrived in Swamp.

You cannot hit leeches with them due to vertical difference 😭

[tacit crystal]

Throw it at them, collect and move back, repeat

[gray sand]

No 🙃

[nocturne wolf]

Throw it while right next to them and you immediately pick the spear back up, it's like a normal secondary attack.

[errant knoll]

I mean more generally, bows are just the safe, but more time consuming option. If you're capable, fighting bosses in melee will always be faster

[gray sand]

Pi means "ratio of diameter to circumference"

[errant knoll]

But getting up close and personal can be scary.

Yes I know, it was a typo lol

[gray sand]

Oh, you edited 😂

[nocturne wolf]

It's more scary for the enemies you're getting up close to

[errant knoll]

Funny typo too considering I actually study mathematics at university level

[gray sand]

There isn't a single boss I shoot with a bow. So yes.

[tacit crystal]

"I'm not locked here with you" vibes

[gray sand]

Then tell them to stop co-opting the word infinity to mean something else 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[gray sand]

Me when I enter a Troll Cave.

Siren, that's more of a #general discussion.

[errant knoll]

I would ask to elaborate but this is the wrong chat room for that yes

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-ruka-rule-gif-15604146342160868176

[gray sand]

Is that Fader back when he had 2 wings? 👀

[random kayak]

The little house I made is getting too small 😦

[tacit crystal]

Make it bigger 🙌

[random kayak]

I might have to relocate sooner or later

Somewhere near the shoreline

[near furnace]

no 👀

[tacit crystal]

And near Black Forest (not just next to the border but near enough)

[random kayak]

Okay troll caves are pretty chill places to chill for the night assuming you've killed the troll

[errant knoll]

In general most dungeons double as safe havens once you've cleared them out

I usually try to enter a dungeon right as its about to hit night time and spend the night in the dungeon clearing enemies

[near sky]

so.. does anyone have a really good chest setup? I gotta upgrade my storage real bad lol. If you have any examples send em my way please!

[wooden tapir]

the circle room design is pretty good

[near sky]

hmmm. something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-8j1YON5g

[wooden tapir]

yes but much smaller, then you can make a circle of chests, then stack them

[near sky]

I really like that format. It seems like an easy way to keep categories seperate. Thank you!

[wooden tapir]

yea (:

[gray sand]

I'm trying to think if I would prefer it if the Love Potion just immediately started "The Ground is Shaking."

[tacit crystal]

How about barrels? #screenshots message

[nocturne wolf]

It increases troll spawn rate and makes them aggro automatically, that's almost the same thing?

[gray sand]

Too much % chance involved imo.

Pop potion for instant raid and guaranteed trolls could be interesting. 😄

[nocturne wolf]

I hope the systems added for the love potion to work are reused in deep north for something more useful

[near sky]

Those barrels look much more effiecent than regular chests. I haven't used them yet so I don't know what size inventory they have. Maybe I can use barrrels + circular storage room ?

[random kayak]

Oh okie

I died once but it was because of a skeleton oof

But so far I cleared the black forest and left some markers

I am mildly pissed that there was a hole with 15 skeletons

Wait... Question... If I quit because I am actually pissed. Does the tombstone despawn?

[nocturne wolf]

Sometimes a tombstone won't save if you quit the game immediately after dying. You can load an automatic character backup with the manage saves button on character select.

[random kayak]

Oof

I didn't even see the hole I just fell straight through and quite literally 15 skeles just spawned

[nocturne wolf]

Where was the hole? I've never seen a hole with skeletons.

[tacit crystal]

Surely you can make circular room using barrels. You can fit 3 barrels in 2x1 area quite efficiently, having total of 36 item slots (as 1 barrel has 12 item slots).

[random kayak]

It's basically a narrow rock stairwell

I fell to the side because it was so dark and then 15 skeletons IN THE BOTTOM

[errant knoll]

Those tombstones never despawn until all the loot is collected.

Tombstones also don't spawn if you have nothing in inventory when you die. Why is this important?

Say you wanna go streaking for your corpse. If you die a second time you get an extra tombstone to provide corpse run with on the way back

So if I'm going plains streaking for example to try and grab my gear I will take just 1 cloudberry with me so that if I die to something a tombstone drops lol

[random kayak]

I NABBED IT

How do you kill ghosts

But also WHY IS THERE AN ENTIRE ARMY IN ONE SINGLE ROOM

[tacit crystal]

You want to craft Stagbreaker for that reason.

[nocturne wolf]

They behave like skeletons but stronger

You can tell when they're about to attack because of the sound, or just hold up a shield until you block something, then hit them back.

[random kayak]

Wait what

OH I FORGOT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET CORE WOOD

[gray sand]

Stagbreaker makes skeletons into dust.

Demolisher has the same effect on the Charred.

[random kayak]

I've been brute forcing the catacombs with a trusty club

I completely forgot about the stag breaker

[gray sand]

Luckily it is the same skill.
One-hand clubs and two-handed clubs are both just "clubs" in terms of skill.

[nocturne wolf]

I normally use my flint axe

[random kayak]

I dunno maybe I should call it quits with this catacomb because there are literally 20 of them

[gray sand]

Just like one-handed spears and two-handed spears...
Oh wait.

[nocturne wolf]

Two-handed spears?

[gray sand]

Literally what an Atgeir is.

[nocturne wolf]

Atgeirs have a slow attack speed and a completely different secondary attack, how is that a two-handed spear? Axes are not swords because they have the same damage type.

[gray sand]

Slow... SLOW? You and I have different games installed.

[nocturne wolf]

Compared to spears, they are much slower

[random kayak]

Guys I just got 20 cores from one catacomb

[tacit crystal]

Nice haul, my best is recently 18 from one Chamber as far as I remember

[nocturne wolf]

I think the most I've had is 13

[random kayak]

I don't know what I unlocked after getting core wood I was busy fighting off greys

Do items despawn?

[nocturne wolf]

Items despawn if they're far from a base structure such as a workbench for too long

[tacit crystal]

Oops, misread.

[nocturne wolf]

They aren't made with core wood. Finewood bow, stagbreaker, cultivator and many build pieces are though.

[random kayak]

Now comes the grueling grind of getting copper from one place to another

[tacit crystal]

Misread.

[random kayak]

Is it better to make a smeltry place instead of just dragging each ore one by one? Near the black forest?

[nocturne wolf]

Use a cart to bring all or most of the ore back in one trip

Copper is heavier than copper ore so it's easier to transport as ore

[errant knoll]

Carts 🤢

[random kayak]

Oh I forgot carts existed

[nocturne wolf]

What's wrong with them?

[errant knoll]

I hate them

[random kayak]

Wait I don't think I have carts unlocked

[nocturne wolf]

You need bronze nails

[errant knoll]

Black forest is annoyingly hilly they're fine for like, flat terrain spaces

[random kayak]

God damnit

[nocturne wolf]

The black forest isn't too hilly if your cart isn't too heavy

[errant knoll]

But flat terrain spaces that yield ores don't exist lol

[gray sand]

Mistlands says hi.

[errant knoll]

Conversation is about carts. Carts don't have that much use in the mistlands when all is said and done

[nocturne wolf]

Mountains is the best biome for carts, go down a cliff in one and try your best to survive

[gray sand]

Uh... hauling scrap from the swords and armor you destroy?

[errant knoll]

You don't need much of it though, the grind fir metal is nothing like prior biomes.

[fair cairn]

i did that once, plenty rocks got in my way
when i reached the buttom it was just a bunch of tunnels going through big rocks

[errant knoll]

The main resources you actually want to gather en masse can all be portaled

[gray sand]

Krom says hi.

Thing costs like 70 bronze.

[errant knoll]

Yes, pieces exist, that's not really the point. The mandatory chores for metals is just, low

[gray sand]

Krom is mandatory.

Goodnight 🛌

[random kayak]

How many copper ore is needed for 1 bar?

[nocturne wolf]

The highest upgrade costs 75 pieces of metal. With the new crafting skill, lucky players have a chance to keep 75 pieces of metal

[errant knoll]

Bronze is 2 copper and 1 tin

[nocturne wolf]

One ore makes one bar. Two copper and one tin makes one bronze.

[errant knoll]

And yeah that's the clearer explanation.

It's one of the grindier metals in the game for sure

[nocturne wolf]

That's why bronze items are cheaper than other metal equipment

8 bars for one weapon just wouldn't work with later metals unless they became rarer

[torn swan]

hlo

[random kayak]

Oh okay wait lemme just get the first bronze stuff so I can make like 5 bronze bars

[torn swan]

Wsp yall

[odd marsh]

eveninag yall

[torn swan]

Can i join anyone's world or smth

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[odd marsh]

or should i say Gjall KEKW LMAO LOL ROFL. okay ima start lurking now

[torn swan]

blob they on like ashlands and stuff

[errant knoll]

They're "fake" cheaper. 8 bronze requires more processing power than 20 iron.

A bronze sword is actually more expensive than an iron sword

That being said, there is a universe where having extremely high crafting skill might make it cheaper now

[nocturne wolf]

Only if you get lucky too

[errant knoll]

Cause chances of getting extra bronze from crafting is something other metals don't have

It's nice when it happens.

I remember setting aside a goal of making and upgrading a porcupine. I got 2 porcupines from the initial craft, which Is more expensive than the upgrades. So I have a second upgraded porcupine as well lol

[random kayak]

Wow so It takes like 20 copper ore and 10 tin ore to make 10 bronze bars

And it takes 8 bronze bars to make an axe-

[leaden elbow]

Hello my fellow dead midgardians

[random kayak]

You know for big bars of ore it sure takes EIGHT!? FOR JUST AN AXE

[errant knoll]

Yeah, it's one of the most expensive progression grinds in the game, despite being the first time you get metals.

[leaden elbow]

Copper and tin are painful

[craggy mason]

2 copper & 1 tin for 1 bronze ingot

I recommend finding a place with many copper nodes in a blackforest and just setting up a temporary foundry there

Chop nearby trees for coal then constantly smelt while mining

[errant knoll]

My goal for both the black forest and swamps is to progress will getting the fewer amount of metals possible, bronze because the progression grind is so expensive to begin with, and iron because while iron is plentiful and less painful to get, you will need a lot more of it so it pays off to limit how much you use early on

[craggy mason]

You have way less weight to carry around when it's all processed into ingots, and even better if you craft your weapons tools etc on site as well

[craggy mason]

Bronze armor isn't really worth it either when maxing out the troll set is so accessible

[leaden elbow]

Anyway does anyone know how to raise the low quality draw distance to further away? I wanna see distant lands, even if its just the landscape

[craggy mason]

You can easily fight bonemass with the basic club too, fully upgraded

[leaden elbow]

Keeping the objects identically loaded

[errant knoll]

And yeah that's how I do it personally. I don't build big bases, I build small temporary outposts for crafting on site, and once I'm done I dismantle it and move those resources to the next site

[craggy mason]

It's linked to the detail level in graphical settings but sadly the game doesn't go that far even on max settings

[errant knoll]

I just have a portal to use bed at home

[leaden elbow]

I know im maxxed out

[craggy mason]

Then mayb look into graphical mods

[leaden elbow]

Its so painful i gotta build a house and 10 trolls spawn every time

[random kayak]

Why does it take 8 bars to make an axe. The bars are literally effing massive

[leaden elbow]

Fun tho i like videogame

[leaden elbow]

Because i said so

[craggy mason]

Trolls don't spawn that often

[errant knoll]

The first time in the game where I feel like the heavy armor is actually worthwhile is mountains. Before then nothing feels worth

[craggy mason]

Also troll dens make for good shelter

[nocturne wolf]

The size of the bars doesn't matter, it's what the player has to do to obtain them

[leaden elbow]

We went on a massive mining spree on a distant island and got like 3 karve trips and still not enough to make pickaxes for 2 people

[craggy mason]

But then mountains gives you fenris 😂 just rock your banded shield / silver shield

[pliant hatch]

Most likely not possible, as the world generates based upon your view.
Meaning the moment you start seeing the pine trees of a Black Forest coastline, that block is generated, even if it isn't shown at your map yet.
Moving that even further away may tax your system more and from what I've understood, the Devs want to keep this game accessable for potato machines too.

[leaden elbow]

Just my luck then haha

[nocturne wolf]

Fenris armor needs too much luck, which is why I always make silver armor

[craggy mason]

I play valheim with light armor until end of mistlands, and in ashlands I prefer light armor to the heavier set

No speed penalties is just too good

[nocturne wolf]

I use asksvin armor and troll armor, just not fenris.

[leaden elbow]

https://youtu.be/3Y8i7JrI5ek?si=SyLNosLYHd_LRjyc explain this then

[random kayak]

That's such a slog aaaaaaugh

[errant knoll]

Fenris requires the rng of finding enough cultist caves, usually scanning multiple different mountains. Oftentimes one mountain has enough silver on it to make and fully upgrade a set of wolf armor.

There is also the other upside, that being that now you actually have a stonecutter, you have a real use for that stone rather than needing to make loads of storage space for it

[leaden elbow]

Stop complaining and start mining for 6 hours straight

[pliant hatch]

You got a potion for that. 😉

[craggy mason]

I don't mind searching multiple frost caves. The convenience of the increased speed is way too high for when you need it

[random kayak]

Real

[craggy mason]

Fenris for corpse runs is goated

Also the "luck" part means that by the time you get a cultist trophy you usually have enough materials for plenty of upgrade levels

[errant knoll]

For me it's like I don't wanna go out of my way to grind stone. The end is never in sight.

But when I grind silver, the end is very much in site and it gets me even more stone

[nocturne wolf]

Cultists trophies aren't the problem, I never find enough fenris hair. I know what to look for, but it doesn't generate because of my luck.

[errant knoll]

So I usually just mine out the veins

[errant knoll]

Also yeah, the fenris hairs are usually the problem for me

[wooden tapir]

the fur wasnt a problem, but it took me 12 caves to get 1 cultist trophy

[gleaming musk]

Damn I got lucky on my first playthrough, managed to get the fenris set in like 2/3 caves

[craggy mason]

There's plenty of Fenris hair you can miss if you don't break certain things

[leaden elbow]

Yesterday, true story, i was building a boat dock shack to make a temp base on new island, 2 trolls (1 normal the other 1*), started chasing my sister and she came screaming to me, i killed them painstainkingly, found 2 troll and 1 mini cave in the process, 5 minutes later another troll

[craggy mason]

Hanging off the walls or ceilings of certain rooms

[nocturne wolf]

There was nothing to break, you need to get lucky for those to generate

[craggy mason]

Troll hide delivery

[leaden elbow]

Now i have way too much troll hide. What do i do with it lol, ive got the armor at lvl4 (maxed atm) does it even have any uses besides that

[errant knoll]

Most of this for me would be "oh nice, I get my troll armor without needing to seek them out".

Though 1 star trolls are quite rough.

[craggy mason]

The barber table ! Or your sister can upgrade her set

[nocturne wolf]

It's used to make the iron spear, but you don't need much

[craggy mason]

From maxxing out the fenris set every playthrough, I can tell you that most of the time the limiting factor is the cultist trophy, not the hair, can be the case if you get lucky with the trophy drop though

[leaden elbow]

Shes using copper armor, but maybe ill ask her if she wants more movement instead, as i have more defense since we can upgrade troll to 4 faster than upgrade bronze to 2

[errant knoll]

If it's really something you can't use you could always just make a spare set of troll armor, or if you don't need spare use it to level up your crafting skill and chuck what you make in the obliterator

[craggy mason]

She can keep bronze helmet (no speed penalty) and swap the rest to troll for way more mobility

But if she's struggling it's OK to stay on heavy armor

[torn swan]

TROLL ARMOR THE BEST

[leaden elbow]

But... BARBER TABLE? iron age thing? The only table we have in bronze atm is cartography, which is nice

[craggy mason]

It's hard to die on normal difficulty with heavy armor and holding your shield up

[nocturne wolf]

Bronze armor is only worth it in a very large group, as it will take too long to find enough trolls. The armor point difference is very small.

[errant knoll]

Troll armor is equivalent in defense to bronze armor of 1 level lower

[craggy mason]

You unlock it with the second trader

[leaden elbow]

Yes but i hate how it looks lol. Also anyone know how i can lose a trolls attention faster

[nocturne wolf]

Kill them faster

[leaden elbow]

The fucking what

[craggy mason]

I love how the troll armor gives the sneaky buff. Trolls are well known for their ability to not stand out at all

[errant knoll]

And the more defense you have, the less effective getting more defense helps. So the difference between tier 4 troll and bronze armor is kinda less than the difference between tier 1 bronze and troll

[leaden elbow]

Lol

[craggy mason]

Okay I might be spoiling too much here XD I will not say more

[torn swan]

Just run

Bro Troll's are so ez to kill

[leaden elbow]

Eikthyr power my beloved

[torn swan]

u dont need bow if u can dodge the attacks

[leaden elbow]

The bow charges way too slowly, they usually catch up to me. Although my KD ratio is like 5

[errant knoll]

Easy, but time consuming in the early stages, maybe they just wanna do other things

[leaden elbow]

Im bad at dodging in valheim, i got that god of war ragnarok dodge mechanic mindset

[torn swan]

xD

just sneak and jump towards them when they bout to hit with the log

[leaden elbow]

You mean rock

[torn swan]

no the log

[leaden elbow]

I prefer fighting trolls in Ragnarök

[torn swan]

the logged trolls and normal trolls with no weapon

[leaden elbow]

Oh yeah true

[errant knoll]

Likewise I hate the gjalls in the mistlands. I detest them with a passion. Not because I can't kill them, I can kill them without much difficulty now, but it basically ruins any plans for what I wanted to get done in that in game day because I not only have to waste time fighting it I have to kite it about and move away from where I was going

[craggy mason]

Don't forget troll take more damage from headshots

[nocturne wolf]

Rolling while sneaking is the same as rolling while blocking

[torn swan]

yall have any server i can join :}

[leaden elbow]

Never noticex that. But what about non log trolls

[nocturne wolf]

Dodging works the same for all attacks

[torn swan]

its easy to dodge anything if u just practice

[leaden elbow]

I think its like 1.5x iirc

[nocturne wolf]

Although for any attack short enough to be jumped over, jumping is always better than rolling

[errant knoll]

Non log trolls are even easier than log trolls, you can bait them into attacking thing air with back and forth spacing and then they jurt stand still letting you hit them for a few seconds

[nocturne wolf]

Trolls have a 1.5 weakness to pierce. Their head has a 2.0 weakness to pierce.

[errant knoll]

Log trolls this doesn't work so well because their attacks have extra reach, so gotta rely on the dodge roll for good damage

[leaden elbow]

Good to know. GoW has undodgable aoe attacks so i find it pretty weird that the effect is aoe and supposedly its the same as a log

Slap attacks are funny

[leaden elbow]

Wouldnt heavy armored things be weak to blunt? Or is it opposite on thick natural troll hide

[nocturne wolf]

Trolls are resistant to blunt

[torn swan]

Hey kriss

are u playing in a server or alone?

[errant knoll]

Non log trolls with a knife in the early game if you keep close enough for them to attack at all times follow a pattern of 4 slap attacks, all with a gap between for hitting back, and then a 5th slap followed by a ground pound quite quickly.

Back and forth spacing so the slaps hit mid air turn any affair into just executing a simple, repeating pattern till the troll dies

It's quite trivial to kill them without needing to even dodge roll when you know how

[torn swan]

You guys playing valheim alone or in a server?

?

[errant knoll]

I'm sure there's a mixture of both players here.

I've always played alone, but I've wanted to try playing with friends at some point

[leaden elbow]

That feels wrong

[torn swan]

Siren

[nocturne wolf]

Clubs would be too strong against them otherwise

[leaden elbow]

With my sister (i host privately)

[nocturne wolf]

#memes-and-clips message
Jumping around trolls allows you to get a lot of safe damage, although it only works if you start the fight behind the troll or have a high enough run skill to get around them.

[torn swan]

Oh

[leaden elbow]

Its our first playthrough

[torn swan]

no one's hosting a normal valheim server its either modded or hardcore

[torn swan]

Can i join ur world to checkout?

[craggy mason]

Enjoy ! The mistakes too

[random kayak]

Blob do you know what considers as a good spot for a base?

[torn swan]

How far have you guys gotten in valheim right now?

[craggy mason]

Did anyone in your group get addicted to building yet ? First playthrough had me staying up until 4 am making houses

[craggy mason]

Whatever you deem a good spot

[nocturne wolf]

I make my first base in meadows next to an ocean and black forest. If it's near eikthyr, even better.
Wrong reply

[torn swan]

@craggy mason Same But not now. welp Now its all about beating the game

@nocturne wolf Always explore ur whole island before making a base

[errant knoll]

I kinda have this problem where I've experienced too much of the game to do new playthroughs with people who are experiencing it for the first time, so any servers I join are likely people who have progressed far, or hard-core. But in both cases I think I'm most likely to spend most of the time playing alone anyway, so I just stick to solo

[random kayak]

#building-screenshots message this is probably the only open spot on the island near a black forest but i might explore more spots

[errant knoll]

Like my experience of the game will skew their difficulty

[torn swan]

If there is alot of biomes like swamp blackforest mountains all close to each other make a base there cause silver,bronze,iron will be easy to transport

[craggy mason]

In general it's recommended to look for flat ground, and close to water so you can easily sail off to explore

And then make a portal hub to connect to POI

[leaden elbow]

No sorry, its not much anyway. I understand why youre asking that tho ive been in that mindset for quite a few games by now. If you wanna just see the base and such i can make a few screenshots

Quicktime choice event moment

[errant knoll]

Also, you don't HAVE to set up one huge base with absolutely everything.

Having a centralised base with many of the essentials is fine, but many things can be done quite easily through portals without needing to teleport metals. Namely, farms. My farms are always separate from wherever it is I'm usually setting up

I like to build a plains farm right next to lots of cloudberries, but the same spot might not be well suited to grabbing other resources

[leaden elbow]

We have a 3 building hilda-viking age village episode base atm. Was thinking of moving to a flatter area today

[errant knoll]

Likewise having farms in meadows or black forest near where there is a patch of mushrooms or berries (ideally both)

[random kayak]

do the animals breed if your away?

[leaden elbow]

Its hard to build more in that spot and its getting cluttered

[errant knoll]

They don't breed, but they do age

[leaden elbow]

Valheim sex update?

[errant knoll]

I'm sure there's a mod for that somewhere, if you look long and hard enough.

[random kayak]

oh so that sorta makes Ranches hard to maintain because you have to be always present

[plush umbra]

most people keep them at home

[leaden elbow]

Me, on day 60, still preparing for the elder while some random guy is in the iron age on day 9

[errant knoll]

Not always - there's limits on how much animals can breed within a given space. Once that's reached there's nothing left to do but wait for them to age, so you can safely leave.

[leaden elbow]

The wind always going the opposite way where im trying to sail:

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-the-grey-lord-of-the-rings-ian-mckellen-mines-of-moria-fellowship-of-the-ring-gif-24036179

Shit

[random kayak]

on my last playthrough i had 20 dogs

[nocturne wolf]

I make a wolf pit to kick greylings into

[random kayak]

they weren't getting hungry when a random boar/deer/greydwarf wanders in and gets their head bitten off

i named everyone of them

[leaden elbow]

DOGS

Can you have cocker spaniels in valheim

[nocturne wolf]

Tamed wolves

[random kayak]

no, only massive dire wolves the size of a horse

[leaden elbow]

Where

[nocturne wolf]

Mountains, the fourth biome

[errant knoll]

Yeah most people do keep their animals at home in game, I don't mostly as a choice simply because raids don't happen when I'm not about, so the tamed animals are safer in a separate spot

[leaden elbow]

Which age

[torn swan]

yall wanna join a hardcore server?

[random kayak]

they should add it so when you tame a wolf, if you name it "princess" iturns into a pitbull

[errant knoll]

And with the best will in the world, I think I have set up enough defense for them, but some raids which are not dangerous to me at all are incredibly dangerous for the tamed animals. Like surtlings and blobs

[random kayak]

🐶

[leaden elbow]

I found mountains earlier than swamp (still havent found swamp)

[plush umbra]

but you're only meant to go there after swamps

[nocturne wolf]

It's best not to go in before killing bonemass

[leaden elbow]

What to feed to tame, also how to feed? The e on an item to "use (item) on what?"

[plush umbra]

swamps start generating something around 2000 meters from the world's center, while mountains don't have a direct restriction like that

[errant knoll]

As someone else answered its mountain (dubbed the "silver age"), though its actually quite possible to tame wolves without beating any of the games bosses. Though, you'd have to know what you were doing and it's probably faster to just play the game as intended

[leaden elbow]

My first mini cave (with 11 surtling cores, compared to 2nd with only 2) was on a mountain

[errant knoll]

You can definitely try to tame wolves before you're done in the swamps though

[plush umbra]

unintended but normal, just rare

[leaden elbow]

So does the elder always so far away and is there a swamp near it

[errant knoll]

No, and no

[leaden elbow]

Woah lucky moment then

[plush umbra]

the closest elder usually isn't on the spawn island, but sometimes it is.
swamp can be near it, but the game doesn't force that or anything, it's purely up to chance

[craggy mason]

Elder location is random, nearby biomes too

[errant knoll]

I mean, there might be swamp near the elder, it's just rng

[craggy mason]

You can easily find swamp by sailing around and seeing places with dead trees

[leaden elbow]

Unlucky moment then. Also do more tin always spawn far from spawn? I got like 3 stacks in a short day there, while near home i got a stack in 2 days

[nocturne wolf]

Tin spawns anywhere in the black forest near water

[leaden elbow]

Copper too

[plush umbra]

or distant islands with suspiciously flat terrain just above sea level - only swamps shape their ground like that

[leaden elbow]

I hope next boss doesnt spawn at the edge of the map then lol

[errant knoll]

Tin spawns near water, so if you're looking for tin explore black forest near the rivers and on the coast

[craggy mason]

Nah don't worry

Boats and portals will help a lot with travels

[leaden elbow]

Haha i got enough tin now dw

[craggy mason]

If you haven't already, craft bronze nails, so you can see the recipe for the first boat that isn't a raft

[leaden elbow]

Anyway do i tame boars with E on mushrooms to "use item on what?"

[craggy mason]

Just drop the shrooms on the ground near the boars and let time do its magic

[leaden elbow]

If not, how?

[errant knoll]

All of the first 5 bosses should have some spawns not too close to the edge. There's actually multiple spawn points for them, the vegvisir will just point you in the direction of whichever is closest to you

[leaden elbow]

Oh.

Oh.

[errant knoll]

The 6th and 7th boss spawns necessarily do spawn close to the edge of the Map but that's more to do with their biomes restrictions than the bosses

[craggy mason]

You wanna keep the boar in an enclosure, drop food in there, then stay some distance away so they don't perma agro you

[leaden elbow]

Then the vegvisir was wrong with eikthyr, i found a location much closer to the stones than that

[plush umbra]

animals only eat while calm, so you can either trap them in an enclosure first or keep in mind where they first spawned - (unless tamed) enemies/animals will always walk back to where they first spawned when they're calm, so leaving food there can tame them. just know that once tamed, they lose this anchor point and start wandering randomly

[craggy mason]

Make a little house for the piggies and lure them in

[plush umbra]

once an animal has eaten, it's fed for 10 minutes, after a total of 30 minutes of an animal being fed, loaded in and calm at the same time, it's tamed.

[leaden elbow]

Should i clear the forest around the elder?

[errant knoll]

I think boars that are tamed near their runestone spawns retain that anchor point even while tamed, though their offspring do not

[craggy mason]

The elder will take care of that for you don't worry

[plush umbra]

yes, animals spawned from a spawn point do, that also includes the boars spawned from abandoned villages

[nocturne wolf]

You don't need much space to fight him.

[plush umbra]

so technically 3 food items are enough, but that's assuming that not a second goes wasted on the animal getting frightened or not being loaded in

[leaden elbow]

A lil food trail?

[leaden elbow]

Ohno

I should move my house then

[errant knoll]

Only prep you NEED to do before the elder is to scout out immediate surroundings for trolls or greydwarf spawners and clear any that exist. Main tip for fighting the elder is to use his summoning altar against him

[craggy mason]

You make them chase you, make sure they land hits from time to time so they keep agro, then you make them chase into the piggy house, close the door, toss food, profit

[plush umbra]

i think they mean letting them chase you into the house and then closing it with them inside and dropping food before waiting for them to calm down. (gotta be a small distance away from them, they won't calm down while they can still see or hear you)

[craggy mason]

You don't have to, you can have multiple settlements. Also, portals

[leaden elbow]

Weve still got at least 2 troll caves and a mini cave to clear before the elder

[errant knoll]

You can also try to tame animals without having them trapped but if they do spot you, things get REALLY messy

[leaden elbow]

Not enough cores for another atm

[plush umbra]

that's what i tend to do with lox

[leaden elbow]

Trap them by building around them? Minecraft style?

[craggy mason]

Keep doing the burial chambers and get yourself a nice supply of cores, they're handy

[errant knoll]

It works with lox because they're borderline blind and thick lol

[craggy mason]

Can work but tedious if they agro and run around

[plush umbra]

well ideally you'd build the house first and then lead them inside 😅

[leaden elbow]

Dont i gotta find a new one each time tho?

[craggy mason]

Yeah of course but they're plenty throughout the map

[errant knoll]

Either build around them, or build elsewhere and lure the angry boar there. Shut the door, run away and give it time to cool off

[craggy mason]

And later on cores become a renewable resource too

[errant knoll]

Without spoilers surtling cores are renewable, just not in the black forest

[leaden elbow]

I know, ive been spoiled for a few things in a beginner tips video

||some surtler creature i think||

Anyway its best i stop being active here for a moment, ive got all my critical gameplay questions answered

[craggy mason]

Have fun

[errant knoll]

||if you mine the fire geysers of the swamp into the ground so it's entirely surrounded by water, the surtling creatures they spawn instantly die as the water kills them, turning them into renewable coal and surtling core farms||

[leaden elbow]

Thanks

[leaden elbow]

I cannot resist clicking on spoilers for some reason. At least i guessed the biome correctly! Thanks for the info

[rotund parrot]

@leaden elbow Best to avoid being here to avoid getting many spoilers, many of us wish we could relive that first experience not knowing what to expect. It's a very nice experience, just go and have fun, hugin will tell you what you need to know when you need to know it!

[leaden elbow]

Agreed.

[errant knoll]

Yeah is probably good advice. I've explored the mistlands blind and spoiler free. It's been hard, painful but so worth it

If the ashlands shakes gameplay up anywhere near as much as mistlands does it will be great

[distant turret]

What’s the order of all biomes

Where I need to go starting from meadows or Black Forest

[near sky]

after black forest -> swamp -> Plains -> mistlands -> ashlands

[plush umbra]

mountains between swamp and plains

meadows -> black forest -> swamp -> mountains -> plains -> mistlands -> ashlands -> deep north (currently has nothing)

[near furnace]

👀

[near sky]

oops, forgot about that. The only reason I'm going back to the mountains is to try and find the cave lake...

[near furnace]

cave lake is super rare

[plush umbra]

😅 pretty important stage, can't make any plains equipment without the artisan table, and by extension can't enter the ||queen's dungeon||

[wooden tapir]

this might just be the most unlucky playthrough ever

26 nights and counting, no 2 star askvin

one day (:

[near sky]

Do you need the 2 star for any specific reason?

[wooden tapir]

not rly, just to have it

[near sky]

can you tame them?! 😱

[wooden tapir]

will complete my collection of farm animals

you can

[near sky]

amazing. I just got to ashlands for the first time yesterday. I had no clue

[wooden tapir]

ive just been really unlucky with 2 stars this playthrough, the wolves also took me about 20 days to find one

yea 2 star askvin are big and purple, they are kinda cute

they hit mega hard tho, can almost 1 shot u

[wooden tapir]

just a piece of advice, you in fact can not block a 2 star warrior ( i had to find out the hard way)

i mean you can, but you need like 80+ block with the best tower shield in the game

[plush umbra]

max health also plays a big role

[wooden tapir]

so do i need to find the witch in order to use the new feast meals?

[plush umbra]

yes, she's the only source of their unique ingredients

[wooden tapir]

i see

[errant knoll]

I think if you have a friend supporting you with staff of protection you can probably parry 2 star warriors alright

[wooden tapir]

maybe, their hits do 320dmg so if their blood magic is high enough

[nocturne wolf]

A staff of protection can always parry any blockable attack because even if it breaks you take no stagger

[errant knoll]

Even without levels blood magic is 200 shield minimum. If you have been granted that by a friend and you're a more melee build, stack that on tip of your armor, hp and block power, you will be fine

[nocturne wolf]

Block power, armor and health won't do anything with the staff of protection

[errant knoll]

It won't affect the shield, but it reduces the power of an incoming hit by 200. Parrying with your hp 120 hit points worth of damage is a much smaller ask than 320

[plush umbra]

seems with at least 309 max health, level 40+ blocking and a level 3 flametal tower shield, you can block their swing but not their thrust

309 sure is a lot though

[nocturne wolf]

You don't take any damage if a hit breaks your bubble, so it completely reduces the hit to nothing

[wooden tapir]

oh interesting

[nocturne wolf]

That's why it's so op. Even if the shield has one health, you can get hit by anything and parry any blockable attack

[rotund parrot]

You can with level 1 blocking

[nocturne wolf]

With maximum health and a level 3 carapace buckler you should be able to parry up to 342 damage at skill 0 and 418.9 damage at skill 100

A 2-star charred warrior's strongest hit only has 320 damage

It's not enough for Lord Reto's weakest attack though. That has 420 damage.

[rotund parrot]

I parried him, you just get staggered a little bit

[nocturne wolf]

My calculator is probably wrong then

[rotund parrot]

It's not, it just calculate what you need to parry without getting staggered

but you can parry much stronger hit than it shows but you take damage from the extra you couldn't block and that stagger you

[wooden tapir]

i had 240 hp, and 40 levels in blocking and go 1 shot through my block ( it wasnt a parry tho, which might be why i got 1 sho)

[nocturne wolf]

It's supposed to calculate how much you can parry, including what will stagger you

[rotund parrot]

You definitely need to parry to block them

[plush umbra]

(unless you have this setup)

[wooden tapir]

thats fair

i didnt learn until recently how to parry warriors, so was not an option

the delayed attacks were really hard for me to learn

[nocturne wolf]

The only way to tell if they're doing a feint is the sound, but you can just try to parry twice

[wooden tapir]

nothing in the ashlands has given me more problems than warriors

[wooden tapir]

yea i got it now, but at the beginning it was hard

[cosmic igloo]

frostner vs iron mace in mountains?

[plush umbra]

iron mace is usually better in mountains

[tacit crystal]

Both. Frostner against those who are not immune to Frost.

[plush umbra]

actually, not sure, wolves aren't immune to frost iirc

[wooden tapir]

i like the frostner for wolves, the slow helps a lot with kiting them around

[tacit crystal]

Correct.

[plush umbra]

so it's kinda only moder and stone golems against which frostner sucks

[upbeat crypt]

wolves die easily tho

[wooden tapir]

until you get stun locked by 3 or more

[rotund parrot]

Silver knife annihilate wolf, for the golem, you can parry it once and the knife will keep it staggered constantly and it will die in 10 seconds

[tacit crystal]

Frostner is also good inside the Frost Caves

[fair cairn]

hmm
im not so sure about the silver knive being able to kill a golem so quickly

[upbeat crypt]

a bigger weapon won't help you there 🙂

[wooden tapir]

thats true

[upbeat crypt]

golem you just man mode with pickaxe after a parry. it's hilarious

[nocturne wolf]

For golems I parry then use iron mace secondary

[wooden tapir]

thats honestly my biggest fear of a hardcore run, is getting stun locked by wolves. im pretty sure i can go no deaths pretty comfortably up to the mountains otherwise

[rotund parrot]

I happen to have a playthrough where I am at the mountain, I can go kill a golem real quick

Never ever use pickaxe agaisn't golem, use an actual weapon

[upbeat crypt]

don't be there at night, always use bonemass buff?

[plush umbra]

it's certainly at a bigger disadvantage than the silver sword, but less than frostner

[fair cairn]

the level 4 iron mace deals with a golem in a few seconds lol

[wooden tapir]

im really bad at egoing my buff useage

[upbeat crypt]

why not use pickaxe against golems, it deals sooo much dmg

[nocturne wolf]

Using a battering ram to kill them instantly is fun once you've gone to ashlands

[fair cairn]

pickaxe isnt a weapon

[rotund parrot]

it really does not

[nocturne wolf]

It's too slow

[upbeat crypt]

but then agian, I also jumped on the backs of Loxes and "mined" them 😄

[rotund parrot]

don't get deceived by yellow numbers

[plush umbra]

it's still worse than an iron mace despite the x2 pickaxe damage weakness

[nocturne wolf]

Even with the queen's power it won't do much

[wooden tapir]

i mean roll technique with pickaxe is probably the safest option

[nocturne wolf]

Rolling with a mace would be safer because the attack is faster

[plush umbra]

• slow attack speed
• no combo so no higher damage combo finisher
• you have to switch to it after a parry which wastes a lil bit of time
• its hitbox reaches below your feet, so unless you stand on top of the golem, you're gonna get multi-target penalty because of the terrain

[wooden tapir]

yea thats true

[plush umbra]

i wouldn't say so, locks you in place for longer than a mace

[nocturne wolf]

If you can somehow get on top of a golem, could you stay up there and pickaxe it safely?

[wooden tapir]

i fight trolls the same way tbh, roll into them with spear

[plush umbra]

you slide off very slowly so you have to recenter regularly

spike trolls can't hit you up there, but club trolls can with their overhead smash

...trolls? stone golems

[upbeat crypt]

I wouldn't call the pickaxe safer, it's just hilarious to kill something with it that isn't a greydwarf. And it's certainly not easier

[warm sandal]

i usually dodgeroll with iron mace and buckler 😄 no fancy schmancy changing around stuff... three hits after the golem has done his and with 3 rounds normally it is history 😄

[upbeat crypt]

it's just rare to even find people who don't only have one answer vs every single enemy (arrows)

[nocturne wolf]

Arrows are my last answer vs every single enemy (except drakes and gjalls )

[plush umbra]

same, the only ranged weapon i use is crossbows, and i only start fights with them

ironically, the one time i used bows heavily, i levelled them to 100 and did so by shooting stone golems with wooden arrows

[warm sandal]

i do use bows to get sneakhits in on some foe... but really no use on golems they are tough and id' rather not waste time and arrows 😄 get in there with the iron mace and be done with it quickly there is other stuff to be doing than pelting stonegolems with arrows 😄

[rotund parrot]

I tested it, it took 5 full knife combo after a parry, which takes 7 seconds, so 10 seconds for the couple seconds you wait for the attack, the parry and the combos seems pretty accurate if you ask me. The golem got staggered after the 3rd knife combo, the 4th and then he died

[fair cairn]

wellp, ok, ill stick to the level 4 iron mace

[long locust]

yup, gets kind of annoying sometimes when someone tells you (essentially) that you're worse at the game for playing a more engaging playstyle

[rotund parrot]

Wolf are the real danger in the mountain and the knife is the best for them was just sharing how it does against golem for reference

[long locust]

if you're up to it, you could either use a shield/buckler to parry them and then slap them with the pickaxe, or just jump on top of them and use the pick

[fair cairn]

mace is less hassle than a pickaxe by a longshot

[rotund parrot]

the mace is just not ideal agaisn't a group of wolf

[long locust]

100% yes, but the pickaxe is funnier

[fair cairn]

mace is just parry and the golem is dead with in a few seconds

[long locust]

tbf, not much is effective against a group of wolves, best bet imo is atgeir and that's assuming you aren't on a slope

[upbeat crypt]

meleeing with wrong weapons is basically like running with scissors. It's so much fun and people will think you're crazy 😄

what about a big swinging 2h axe?

[long locust]

battleaxes are good too, just a little more finnicky imo, they're like the opposite of an atgeir but do the same thing

atgeir for AoE stun and single target main attack, battleaxe for single target stun and AoE main attack

[gleaming musk]

I've been running with the flesh rippers everywhere since I got them

[long locust]

yk, I've never actually tried those out lmao

which is odd since I'm a massive fenris addict, still using it in my mistlands char lmao

[gleaming musk]

Thats crazy because I assumed fenris set was only good with them or something like that

[warm sandal]

me too...love them so much:D

[wooden tapir]

FLOUR STACKS TO 50 NOW

[long locust]

fenris set is insane tbh, 2/3 of Yagluth's power at 100% uptime and the move speed boost

[warm sandal]

no need to yell at us we know already 😄

[upbeat crypt]

isn't flour temporary anyways? you straight turn it into something else?

[long locust]

yeah but some of us like to hoard flour

[wooden tapir]

no? i like to stockpile it

[gleaming musk]

What weapon do you use with it?

[long locust]

used to have half a black metal chest filled with flour, now it only takes up like 3 slots

[long locust]

as of rn, usually Atgeir, Sword & Board, or Magic

[wooden tapir]

yea i had 2 Reinforced chests full

[long locust]

himminafl is my fav rn, fireball staff would be a close second if not for my lack of eitr regen rn

gonna need to get that eitr-weave armor so I can start trying out magic properly

[gleaming musk]

Ah atgeir sounds fun

[long locust]

check #screenshots

[gleaming musk]

Lol 💀

[long locust]

by far my favorite weapon class, and it's funny to think I only discovered that because I made a blackmetal atgeir to harvest barley 💀

[gleaming musk]

My gameplay with claws is just kicking people and running around

[long locust]

if there's one thing funnier than stunning 20 enemies with the fury of thor, it's doing it right after sprint jumping directly into the crowd of enemies

nothing like a good fenris sprint directly into a horde

[fair cairn]

something thor did in a certain movie, no?

[gleaming musk]

The x6 parry and high stagger kick are glorious with claws tho, a shame there's no other fist weapons. I wonder how long can I last with these

[long locust]

can my lox please stop walking into the single campfire that's still lit on this island

trying to figure out how to build a lox jail and make it pretty

[keen cliff]

Tamed animals have this code: IF "thing would be annoying to do", THEN "do that thing"

it's science

[fair cairn]

raise the fire?

[long locust]

else die in stupidest way possible

[keen cliff]

it's really genius

[long locust]

now, time to figure out how to make a nice farm area with enough space for these two jokers

[keen cliff]

i had to make a double high fence around my farm, because the asksvins see a fenced off area and are all "oh, you don't want me to go in there? well i'm going to in there EVEN MORE"

[long locust]

what sucks too is every barn design I see out there is designed for boars or wolves

I need to be able to fit a semi truck or two in there bare minimum god damn

[plush umbra]

worst part is they keep stacking and throwing each other around, damaging the walls

[keen cliff]

my lox breeding utilized a max depth earth pit, plus raising earth around it.

and even with that, i wanted to cull them regularly to prevent too much piling up

[plush umbra]

i'd put an overhang around the edge of the pit as well

[keen cliff]

but in the end, my lox breeding tower IS super effective. granted, late game you don't need endless lox meat anymore....

[warm sandal]

I usually just fence them in in the beginning to keep them together to have them breed and put some workbenches around after i got like 10 or 12 or so i just let them roam free and every 10 days or so go around gathering them up with a saddle in hand riding them to the middle and feeding them there 😄 i do not bother to much they are pretty sturdy and can survive a lot without being fenced in

[trail pelican]

i'm thinking of digging a pit for them (the lox)--can't damage earth walls

oh lol, see I'm late to the pit idea

[long locust]

yeah I'm pretty much just keeping them for pets lmao, I get plenty of lox meat from hunting in the plains already

[trail pelican]

lox breeding tower--can only imagine the size

[keen cliff]

the main problem with letting your lox roam free near your base is they can potentially destroy your structures

[wooden tapir]

what do i do with 350 askvin hide?

[long locust]

my base is raidproof at this point, so they probably won't destroy much

[keen cliff]

#screenshots message

[warm sandal]

i have double walls on the house and stonewalls around the court yard where my smelters are... i never had a problem with destroyed stuff... the bug raids do more harm 😄

[opal prairie]

It's yuge!

[opal prairie]

If you've made everything that you want them for, keep some just in case and turn the rest into coal.

[hearty niche]

How do I orient my vineberries so they grow the right frickin way??? This is maddening.

[wooden tapir]

maybe, maybe a bunch of rugs too

[hearty niche]

They keep growing sideways and don't produce fruit and it's the steering wheel on the pirates belt. (arrrr drivin me nuts)

"growing sideways" != "growing over the surface", they're growing perpendicular to the surface I'm planting them on

[trail pelican]

I break and replant until they seem to randomly go the direction I want--you're right though, it's weird

i dunno why they sometimes decide to go sideways on pieces--seems to me like it happens worst when it's not a "solid" surface they're grabbing on to

[opal prairie]

Haven't tested it out but giving them a narrow high thing to grow on might work.
First fix that and then build from there.

[fallen zephyr]

Only put the walls where you want it to grow?

[keen cliff]

vineberries will grow out left/right/up/down. it's just how they work.

if they are growing perpendicular, it sounds like you're placing them wrong. ie, not set to be flat against the surface

[hearty niche]

That'x exactly what I'm saying. The correct orientation is unclear.

A few of them have grown the correct way. It's unclear how I get that to happen consistently.

[trail pelican]

does the vine plant itself (pre vines) have like a FACING direction?

[keen cliff]

i placed a LOT of vineberry seeds, and have only had 1 that was messed up

every build piece technically has a facing direction. just some don't matter.

for example, the armor stand's facing direction matters a lot 🙂

[trail pelican]

I'll try rotating mine and see what results I get

[fallen zephyr]

That's fair. I think I've inadvertently discovered that ivy has an orientation; I planted one expecting it to climb an adjacent wall, and it clung to a low level border on another angle instead.

[trail pelican]

i really love the vines tho, they mostly behave and they look super nice, and it's super fun having different and new ways to have to farm crops

[wooden tapir]

do vines need open sky like most other plants?

[hearty niche]

Yes they do. And they're particular about growing too close to each other

[frozen fable]

finally found the bog witch on my new playthrough, i love it!

[wooden tapir]

could i potentially grow them on a wall, then roof it and them not die? since they have already grown? or would that make them not produce berries?

[lusty dirge]

Yes, that works

[rotund parrot]

Good to know I always like a 1 meter overhang for realistic purposes

[lusty dirge]

I've covered the inside walls of a fort with them and built my base after they grew. I now have vinberries growing in my base

[rotund parrot]

Can you remove the cultivated ground or do you need to keep it?

[trail pelican]

you can remove it

[lusty dirge]

I think you can remove it, I believe the parts higher up on the walls even survive if you destroy the rooted parts

[fallow edge]

is anyone else having issues with worlds saving? i played a few hours and saved and quit my world and it keeps going to an old backup and undoing my progress

[hearty niche]

Are you payiong particular attention to what way they're oriented?

[rotund parrot]

Alright thank you both, I was just doing a build, I'll remove some part of the overhang temporarily and grow a couple berries on the side that will look great

[tacit crystal]

Soon facing Bonemass, but took a risk and went to mountain to find caves. Found 2 and got total of 51 Fenris Hair there. Quite good for starters. (Hard preset world, trying to not die)

[hearty niche]

If I trap a 1 star wolf and it eats before sunrise, will it continue taming during the day or does it only tame at night? I thought it used to be it only tamed at night.

[rotund parrot]

On hard for bonemass you can't do it the usual way where you stand in the poison, it's best to run away from it and do it a bit slower

[keen cliff]

i wasn't thinking about it much at the time, but i must have been placing them how it looked "right". ie, the flat part in the middle of the wall i wanted it to go on, about 1 meter or so away from the wall so it didn't clip on it at all

[hearty niche]

Yeah i can kinda see a "flat" side. I'll try that. Thanks.

[tacit crystal]

Once the taming process starts during night it won't despawn at dawn anymore.

[rotund parrot]

They changed it, they also don't despawn anymore once they start taming, they will keep taming during the day

[keen cliff]

i did discover that a single wood wall block doesn't grow berries at all, for me at least. once i put 2 walls on top of each other, suddenly berries would grow. (This is in a separate area where I just put a bunch of seperate walls to make a farm for it. I used up all my base walls lol)

[warm sandal]

#screenshots message I promissed i would take a screenshot of my kitchen 😄

[tacit crystal]

Yeah I have usually avoided the poison cloud on normal too.

[plush umbra]

my that's a pretty one~

i really gotta make more bases with distinctly separated rooms, it tends to just be one big hall that just has nooks for different things

granted, it's partially to make them all quick to access through short distance and a lack of doors in the way

[tacit crystal]

Cozy 👍

[warm sandal]

I do omit inner doors i just have passage ways and stairs... the doors do get in the way in a house i think ... but i like to have separate rooms and decorate them nicely 😄

[fallen zephyr]

Open plan is the way to go!

[plush umbra]

there's some great decorating potential in having separate rooms yea~

[fallen zephyr]

Each to their own, obviously. But, for me, any room separation is usually only through hanging banners. I hate having to open and close doors inside my base.

[tacit crystal]

I usually create a big hall with separate rooms for workbenches and bedroom

[keen cliff]

in this base i have 3 distanct areas. bed/comfort, crafting, and kitchen. all have some storage also. But, I probably need to setup a dedicated bulk storage area also like my previous base has.

[plush umbra]

my latest one does have a separate bedroom, we needed the atmosphere~
main hall's too small to include mistlands stuff so i prepared a second building for when we get there

[keen cliff]

i also have some random roofed rooms on higher floors, to give certain crafting/cooking benches an actual roof lol

[trail pelican]

i've tended to just build additional buildings for each function lol

[fallen zephyr]

Let's start a channel that is narrated walk-throughs of peoples' bases.

[trail pelican]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[plush umbra]

and when you go outside, imagine like a wall, it's very wally, but it's behind you, and there's chests, they're not supposed to be there but they're there

[fallen zephyr]

Your base sounds weird

[keen cliff]

we could post videos of a walkthrough

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, that was what I was suggesting. Did you think I was suggesting people offer an audio file of a base walk-through?

[tacit crystal]

Yasss early Onion seeds!

The risk was calculated (I'm bad at maths) but it was worth it 👍

[fallen zephyr]

Your bad calculations were worth it?

[keen cliff]

i more meant, we already have a channel we can post videos.

[wooden tapir]

killed an abomination before it finished its spawn animation lmao

[tacit crystal]

Went to mountains (Bonemass not defeated yet) to find onion seeds and possible caves. Found 2 caves and chest with onion seeds. Golem almost obliterated me.

[fallen zephyr]

Oh, I see. Yeh for sure. Sorry if I was condescending.

[rich ice]

I'm sure this is a reference to something, but it reminds me of text-based games I played forever ago...

[keen cliff]

it's ok. i expect it from you honestly 🙂

[fallen zephyr]

I literally gaffaw-ed out loud.

[fallen zephyr]

I respond on par with the clarity of the comment I'm responding to, but you've made me consider that I should be more forgiving. Thank you. 🙂

[loud quartz]

how do I find the Bog Witch in my established world? looked everywhere

[keen cliff]

you're welcome! and it's all good. i've grown to understand certain people's "text style" here

[fallen zephyr]

'She'll' be in some unexplored area of Swamp on your world.

[long locust]

you'll find her when you least expect her, I was sailing towards an island not far from my ashlands and accidentally sailed past her swamp on the way there

the day previous I had been specifically exploring my unexplored swamps looking for her

[fallen zephyr]

On the Bog Witch... why is her map icon so damn huge?

[keen cliff]

it's bigger than the other merchants? huh, i haven't looked at it to compare. i would have assumed it was the same size

[long locust]

yeah it's a little bigger

[keen cliff]

i would call that a bug imo

[long locust]

tbh I don't mind, she's usurped haldor as most important trader imo

[keen cliff]

at least Haldor has barrels now for spending money late game

does Hildr have any consumables for sale? once you buy anything, there's no reason to back to Hildr, yeah?

oh, sparklers? lol

[nocturne wolf]

You can return for more iron pits

[keen cliff]

yeah, that's true. i haven't ever bought an iron pit.

[teal matrix]

They're mid.

[long locust]

they're kinda mid tbh, bigger version of standing braziers if that's your thing

[fallen zephyr]

Haldor got made redundant from upgrades. - "Hey. Hello? I have eggs! Don't you want eggs anymore? I'm just going to cuddle my lox."

[teal matrix]

I mean... still gotta buy fishing bait on occasion

[keen cliff]

yeah, sorry Haldor, i got my 2 eggs from the Sealed Tower

that's true. fishing bait

[long locust]

yeah, bog witch is probably the first trader where (almost) her entire shop is a permanent money sink

[tacit crystal]

And Ymir Flesh

[keen cliff]

you only need a little bit of ymir flesh and then you're done however

[teal matrix]

We just did the sealed tower last night for the first time. It was fun but fighting on those stairs is butts.

[tacit crystal]

Depending if you want to craft both weapons that require it.

[long locust]

sealed tower... oh god

I still need to do that, killed Geirrhafa and Brenna a long time ago

[keen cliff]

yeah, i did craft both. so no reason to get more flesh

[rotund parrot]

Aren't towers designed so you don't fight on stairs since enemies are trapped on floors between doors?

[long locust]

oh speaking of which, Geirrhafa is raiding my lox pen

[teal matrix]

Bring fire resist potions. Lol.

[long locust]

fenris got me covered as always lmao

I'm mostly just scared of the 1* fuling raid becoming a thing

[rotund parrot]

free blackmetal

[trail pelican]

those mini-boss raids are a step up from most raids

[fallen zephyr]

I hate all three of them. It's pretty much just the game saying, "Hey. Come kill this mini-boss so we can add another base event to your current suite of inconveniences."

[teal matrix]

Maybe it was just the guy in front messing things up then. He went down with his himmenafel and they always came running up the stairs

[trail pelican]

I mean granted, the sekllie one is kinda negligible by the time you'd get it

[long locust]

I like em, I think it's a fun gimmick and I like that they dilute my raid pool so trolls show up less

[rotund parrot]

Must be it, you can end up fighting on stairs if you retreat to the stairs instead of going in

[fallen zephyr]

Can I buy you a Love Potion?

[long locust]

it's why I like the flood of raids bonemass opens up, more things that aren't the current army or a serious threat to my base

[long locust]

the only reason I will ever buy a love potion is to further my genocide of the blue people

[fallen zephyr]

Racist...

[trail pelican]

building a raid-proof base honestly isn't that difficult though if you want to

[long locust]

2nd least favorite race in this game, just behind the green people

it's not lol, my current base is raidproof

but I do like to have some raids every now and then, so this is gonna be the single case of a raidproof base

[fallen zephyr]

You should do an audio-only walkthrough.

[keen cliff]

i actually like the plains miniquest raid. blackmetal delivery.

[trail pelican]

lol, you mean like lay blind lol? @fallen zephyr

[keen cliff]

1star asksvins chew up fulings

[long locust]

20 minutes of campfire placing asmr

[trail pelican]

lululululllululu, indeed

[long locust]

lets go gambling!!!

[trail pelican]

definitely NOT a scam