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And more importantly: Not making estimates on when something will be released
That was an even worse mistake
ashlands only made 2 mistakes i can see. If heavy spawning/relentless enemies was a core part of the experience the spawning mechanisms should of been more interesting/fun and a little too copy pasta of black forest. Other than that I think its on par with the rest of the game.
well
the problem was:
- tree breaking from cinders in a tree alerted mobs to the player
- which alerted every single monster in a huge area to you as a player. wherever you wanted it or not
- players didn't have enough breathing space when mining flametal spires. since they will sink, and also alert mobs because of pickaxe noice
I actually liked the sinking of the ore. I didn't think that needed to be removed. Maybe slowed down a little bit more or make it explode or something so you can use the basalt bombs to go collect it all.
The beauty of rewarding preparation
I feel like itโs one of those games that can actually teach some useful real life principles
Mainly just patience and preparation but ya know what Iโm getting at
Like I wouldnโt mind knowing my kid was playing a game that made him think through things and punishes rushing in
i also liked the swarms of enemies and the idea of it but at least when i played through with my buddy there was absolutely no break from it. I would of preferred some more creative spawning ideas or more interesting means of suppression.
i found a way to supress it, just dig pits and fill them up with enemies, once they are in there the area will become very peaceful
Huh. We found the catapult to be very ineffective. But we have only tried it on the one spire.
it's fun but.. you can do it 1-2-3 times maximum
Yeah, this, I think, is what has possibly killed the game for one of my friends. He literally went from the most keen to play to the least in the space of about 4 or 5 sessions of repeatedly dying in the Ashlands meat grinder.
well. you're not suppose to super hero rush into combat ๐ค
We didnโt.
Figured which out?
The numbers just a few msgs above
Faders dmg numbers
Thanks. And WHAT? How did those get missed?
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i have no idae, i didnt really look at that page much since i didnt fight him yet and dont want many spoilers
We had a number of new people who started on Ashlands early and left a lot of unfinshed pages so it's been hard to know what was done and what wasn't. Having said that, Fader has the WIP so there's no excuse.
Thatโs me since Iโve been up 26 hours and Iโm at work now ๐ญ
From my understanding the wiki people have to decompile the code and search it.
Due to the nature of decompilers, not everything is clear. And internal names aren't the same as in-game names.
So you have to find out what Fader is coded as. Then find all the names of his attacks/abilities and the damage amounts/types for each.
Which.. it's not like there's a map to follow when doing so.
Hence my just asking Smiffe.
They like decompiling gives em something to do
I guarantee you they would prefer not to have to ๐
Oh, if we were given the numbers from the devs it'd be lovely, you're absolutely right.
Fine. Happy now? https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Fader
Done!
I just hope it's right, even with Kirilloid's de-obsfucation it's not entirely obvious what means what.
I thought fissure had fire damage?
And... off we go. Anyone else is perfectly able to change the Wiki if it's wrong and they have verifiable proof.
{ dmg: dmg({ pierce: 120, chop: 1000, pickaxe: 1000 }), name: 'fissure', force: 50, toolTier: 3, aiMinHp: 0.35, aiMaxHp: 0.85 }, // interval: 30, range: [0, 40]
The fire would be from the green flame left after the spikes
Again, ANYone else is able to edit the Wiki.
Well there's this but he's commented it out, but God knows why:
// Fader_Fissure_Intense
// chop: 30, pickaxe: 30, fire: 80, spirit: 80
What?
Anyone else see that hastily deleted comment?

Does anybody agree with me that deathsquito trophies look freaky as hell, i just put 2 of them on my wall and now they just staring at me, i think ive unlocked a new fear
Haha, yes.
thats a giant mosquito, think it deserves the name deathsquito more than actual deathsquitos do
tbf, it seems about the same size as the in game one XD
I canโt for the life of me remember which movie that skeeter is from
Fan-fic called "Chasing Smiffe" and the main character is that skeeter.
Is 2 star neck rare because ive never found one until now and i have abt 80 hours of playtime
Are you looking around by spawn or traveling away first
Around spawn
Star variants spawn further from the spawn
2 star necks are the reason I wish we could tame necks ๐ญ
Oh i didn't even know that, well the first ever troll i saw was on the starting island, close to spawn and a 2 star one
Yea she was really pretty
I think itโs different for meadows mobs I donโt actually know for sure about necks but like boars you have to get away from spawn
Yea i don't think i have ever seen a boar with a star
That I know for sure you have to sail for
Unless ya know really big start island or boar stone spawn
Ive seen loads of deer tho in spawn, 1 and 2 stars
Different mob different rule
Yep, do u know what is the rarest mob to have 2 stars?
No clue I canโt even find a wiki page on the distance nor anything specifically on rarity
probably gjalls, tho i am not sure about ashalnds mobs, could be one of them
Thanks for inform us, that you removed the juletree. -.-
They are required to inform you by international law?
Is it Christmas?
Each page should say any relevant distances.
its not buildable for quite some time XD
Idk why but it seems to me that mosquitous are pretty rare too ive never even found a 1 star, far away from spawn
because they dont have a starred variant ๐ same as lox for example
Bruh
Lemme guess, drakes too?
yep
Why guess? But yes.
What is the best enchant for flametal mace?
i would love to see the sword enchant for mace ๐
Most likely Klossen, but storm is also good for random damage boost
Green or Blue.
I would not give either a "for sure" rating.
Meaning....?
That's why both have equal merit.
Yeah the knock back might be a problem with lightning
But it looks cooler than the nature variant lol
For the bow Iโm definitely going root fang
Storm Mace is good alternative to Himminafl.
And I find root doesnโt process well on the Ripper, but might be OK on Ashfang once you can take it to tier 4. For now sticking with Spinesnap.
Nothing can replace Thor's Spear.
Yea. New Spear looks nice but my spear skills are currently shit compared to most other weapons, soโฆ Maybe level it after we finish Ashlands.
^ Himmin Afl
Ah - yes - well I keep it around for crowd clearing in โOh shit!โ moments. But new mace knock back is much stronger. (100 vs 40)
What has 40?
Because every mace after Iron has 100.
Himmin Afl
210 AoE Knockback ๐
163 is pretty good tbh
Mind you, Iโm playing in Tier 2 Ask armor, so try to avoid taking any hits.
163 AoE with no reduction with that amount of knockback, Demolisher is very good against groups of Charred.
Imagine if Deep North has a two-handed hammer version of Frostner?
Iโll have to try it out again. Have one in a chest somewhere.
I actually use Frostner in Ashlands. Not awful.
Slow + Spirit is good
to bad the skele's there aren't weak to blunt, or the demolisher would wreck. only weak to spirit(worriors specifically according to the wiki)
Well, they are classed as demons so that's probably why ๐คทโโ๏ธ
more than likely. my brain immediately went to hammers since skele's prior were weak to it. forgot that ashlands added a whole new class of enemy type.
which means, silver is a good option in theory because of spirit damage.
Palheim
If the windup for the first attack weren't so atrociously long, Crystal Battleaxe would be amazing in the Ashlands.
is that where barney is? the purgatory of (trying to) making friends?
Maybe
hello all
welcome to Viking purgatory....I mean valheim. ๐ ๐
Viking Purgatory = Gamer Heaven
Who knew? ๐
well often Valheim is rather hell then heaven ๐ ๐
depends how you see it and how good you are in playing it. For those who are not that good its getting pretty much hell like as they loose allot of skill points
but I still love it
Not about "how it is seen" as I just explained.
No, it depends on the lore.
semantics but yes. more semantics: hell =/= purgatory. also hell=/=hel
semantics =/= semantics ๐
Semantics don't come into it.
UNO REVERSE CARD NEVYN ๐ ๐
Unless you think arguing red is blue is somehow semantics.
I was talking about the game and not purgatory or anything else concerning lore
Or we get thors actual hammer
That would be so cool
I mean.... this could be debated depending on how one's brain interprets the electric impulses from the eyes, and if the neurons in the optic nerve are aligned properly, and if...
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yes, it can be very demanding and punishing game.
That's still not a semantic argument though.
Purgatory is actually in Hell where souls gets cleansed for heaven or reincarnation
Is the himmin afl decent in Ashlands?
Oh I am not continuing a religion discussion because those never end well.
Lore is kinda important.
No.
Mistwalker, Krom, or Demolisher. They are your friends.
Demolisher it is lol
After 1 and a half entire hour. I have finally finished my new base.
I am so proud and i need to sleep.
Like...really badly...
So I found this vendor Haldor... He sells crap! Are you guys serious with UX of this game? It's great and floppy at the same time... I can buy warms and a head torch... Weapons...? Potions maybe?no?...
why would you buy stuff you can make yourself?
the UX could use touch up, but I have been playing so long that is doesn't bother me. Haldor and Hildir both sell usefull things, so long as you are not expecting the general store merchant from any other game.
megingjord may not be required to beat the game, but it might as well be 
100% agree
50% inventory increase and one of the only permanent lights in the game...
Total crap.
Unplayable.
Horrible game.
Can't wait to hear what he thinks of Hildr's inventory ๐
considering what I know about how others react to it, its gana be a tier above what their feelings are against Haldor.
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Half of the American economy be like... ๐
๐คทโโ๏ธ non american here
I know I was a little disappointed originally, but my only reference prior was all the rpg maker games and their "shop keeps" and now I have a better understanding and changed expectations.
half you say? more like 20% because the rest are like "can I buy it for cheaper on amazon"
Oh like... 50 years ago everyone had their own garden. And was proud of it.
Slowly we dropped it because why make it yourself when you can buy it?
(Just one example)
I wasn't exactly disappointed, just indifferent to the cosmetics.
But once I saw the passive ๐
ya that passive is great for those building huge builds, but (some) people don't understand that is why they exist, and complain.
To save time...? Like I have thousands of thousands of gold and I need to forage for iron instead of buying an ingot or two. Just saying...
if you will progress a bit you will find perfect money sink ๐
also, save time? crafting weapons is instant, and brewing doesent require your attention at all, so if you dont mean that you should be able to buy materials from him (which would be just stupid) i really dont understand that
Yeap, was worth exploring the world for that
Yes. Yes it was.
I'm glad we agree.
I don't know. Just a huge monster next to him, whole armory around, swords, shields... And he has a fishing rod... I mean come on! Compared to the wrapping the content seemed to be a balloon fart... Swamp is not fun for getting iron, so I would appreciate this shortcut.
The game is amazing still though.
And a filter for crafting stuff would be nice. Now the list is long. It would be nice to have it sorted into armor and weapon at least
โhuge monster next to himโ? Guessing youโve not been in the Plains yet?
But I agree, all the stuff scattered around that he wonโt sell is something of a tease.
Playing the game to get resources is not fun?
Uh... might want to find a different game. Because that is the entire gameplay loop.
Hildirโs camp is at least a little more โhonestโ.
And iron-mining is infinitely more palatable than copper mining, which you've already had to do.
Both of which become pretty trivial later in the game
true, with iron pickaxe and higher its really not a problem ๐
hi amigos
It's not all-or-nothing. I needed literally like 3 ingots. It was ages to find a new dungeon, get it and come back
you could try killing oozers ๐ they drop iron
Or smack the ground until you find something hard and dig for about 8 scrap.
Unless youโve killed Bonemass, then you have the dowsing rod of doom
the glow-bone of finding...
With something like the stag hammer, pretty easy
You will never stop needing iron.
So anything in your brain telling you that you need only 3 ingots and the shop could solve that is lying to you.
i dont agree with this
but if my friend is getting the iron then its a different thing
Yep. At least 2 full black iron chests to start with. UNLESS you do t care to build sturdy bases.
@finite mortar you just had to push them into this chat channel ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
you dont need iron to make sturdy bases, you need a lot of iron to make a BIG bases ๐
i love this server
tbh, this is an apropriate channel
true true...
yep, my stickler-ness did this channel dirty.
you have another one in valheim-chat ๐ XD
You are responsible for finding the vaccine for the vro strain of the blawg bacterium them.
I'm not the scapegoat "wo-hong lab" you are looking for, nor am I pfizer or maderna
Find a leviathan and extract some enzyme.
I am also not a purest type linguest either....man i am a lot of "not x"
does the "report message" option go to the servers moderators or to discord's mods? there is something questionable wording in one of the sections but I don't want to bother sending a report to discord since they will likely do nothing.
ModMail goes to server mods.
Reports go to Discord.
good to know the difference.
peeps seen the news?
Unfortunately, yes.
Crazy time to be living in.
Be mindful of the rules, folks
this isn't a news orientated chat, carefull...unless its valheim related that is.
yee I'll shh now
yikes, lots of non-seekers popping up today...
might simply be me being more active in chat than game though.
So glad that rule exists
As I'm sure for the next following days everyone won't stfu about it
has anyone asked "deep north when" this week?
Any open servers For beginner level?
check out our #1024264966712340510 section
Many.
Appreciate it๐ค

Weaknesses do not stack right? Like if u have feather cape and some root piece u wouldn't get -100% to fire right?
Mornin gjall ๐
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I joined this discord from Valheim the Boardgame website. Is there a channel dedicated for the board game (I don't see one) ?
There's a board game version of valheim? ๐ญ
not yet, being worked on tho ๐
no channel for it, when we get news about it then it will be in #news most likely ๐
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Strongest resistance of its type replaces the weakest one:
Very Resistant > resistant > very weak > weak > neutral
Ehh ok
Nexus mods for valheim are the thing people use right?
very cool that things like this are happening
Personally I've had better time using r2modman
Oh i use it for outward i didn't even know its for valheim too
some mods are only on Nexus but save that for #mods-discussion
#general gets sensitive about mods ๐
Oh yeah sorry abt that
Prepares agitated sensitivity words.
Question: Does the amount of XP given matter on the level of creature? For example, if I hit a greyling once and a troll once, does that one hit give the same XP or is it scaled?
Nope.
it should give the same ammount i believe
It's just per hit.
Static.
but you can hit troll more times
thanks
Especially with a crappy weapon.
More hits because less damage = more xp overall.
That's a part of the reason higher level skill grinds feel so grindy. You are doing more damage per hit and getting less hits in on a exponential (per skill level up) need. Double whammy.
Wonder if we ever get Wooden Sword or if it is always "Clubs only" for Meadows.
i really dont think we will get much content added in already finished biomes
Cries like a reddit poster.
yep, without mods, you are stuck with bronze as the base level for swords. you could always bump the difficulty up and fight a golem or somesuch that is resistant.
Meh. I am an axe person overall.
Krom was fun for a biome.
But then Berserkir, my beloved.
So usually it's Wooden Club -> Iron Mace -> Blackmetal Axe -> Krom -> Berserkir
But on my new run I may attempt just axes all the way now that I know the glory of Berserkir is there to reward the faithful.
axes are great from a utilitarian perspective. that's what I used the first couple playthoughs when yag was last boss.
Also just what I think of when I think Norse.
Like I am a huge fan of how awesome the viking longsword was.
But my brain just associates axes with Norsemen.
Partly because of how iconic the viking throwing axe was.
very much so. I tend to think of thor's hammer and axes when I think of vikings
specifically 2h axes or axe and sheild.
i dont really think there has been much axe throwing done by vikings tho (at least not on battlefields)
thrown weapons don't tend to see much use (except arrows from bows) in large part because you cant retrieve it easily and it becomes a enemy's weapon fairly easily.
Rip Frostner... I miss when you didn't have 100 knockback...
You make me consider modding sometimes... ๐ญ
me or frostneir?
Frostnir
ah, ok. good I wasn't the "bad influence".
Though if this was like RimWorld it would be as simple as going to the weapons file, scrolling down to Frostnir, and changing the 100 to a 30.
No mods required.
But all the local files for Valheim aren't just notepad txt files. ๐ญ
thats how most versions of RPG maker games function(notepad) along with some visual novels.
Yeah. Valheim doesn't though.
yep, and thats why I don't mess around with the files.
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with one RPG maker game that used notepad(s), I basically rewrote the whole game because it was a bad machine translate. never going to do that again.
Fair.
There are tiny number adjustments I do to RimWorld because it's that simple and some of the weapon stats don't make any sense.
Messing around with files can be very fun if done right #memes-and-clips message
and it can be a huge headache if something unexpected comes up.
ya, after the game stabilizes, mods would be more attractive for me for sure. till then, ill stick to devcommands (primarily no build cost and removedrops).
On principle, mods will never be attractive to me.
they are like "new game+" or fanfiction of the original game IMO.
We are of differing opinions. But best to move on.
yep
on this part of the world, indeed, good morning.
Midnight here, but good morning
What is midnight if not the start of morning? ๐
Litterly how am i supposed to light the iron pit, ive tried throwing it to the ground and trowing wood and stuff but nothing works
It shouldโve unlocked a new build piece you can make, you donโt use the iron pit item.
Im so dumb i litterly saw it i tought it was a campfire
I finally got copper, now I need to just run into caves and snatch cores until I get 8. Why do I do this to myself?
You can get by at the start with only 5 cores
Build kiln, produce enough coal for your current needs, deconstruct and build smelter
I wanna build both of those things just because I'm really greedy
The uhhehehhhhhhhh I forgot their name
The smelter and charcoal kiln, as I have no idea what they'll do for me separately
(I won't look it up as I want to find out what everything does as I go. I'm playing this game entirely blind)
Noted, thanks
I really appreciate how this game has a lot of quality of life features while still being difficult. It's not one of those games where it just makes every single action possible unnecessarily tedious.
QoL features in Valheim have a crazy-steep diminishing return. Difficulty will make you its bitch soon enough ๐
heh, making food can be quite tedious lol especialy the ones on a black forest cooker
You just need to find something else to do while you wait that won't take you too far away
you cant "afk" the ||cooking pot||
Atleast 10, but like u said if ur greedy like me then get 50
Dude, there is no universe where I would ever consider this a possibility ๐ญ
I struggle getting 1 of these in itself
Im just kidding 15 will be fine if u want to smelt them at the same time
I have no idea what it means but I'm sure I'll deal with it like an absolute trained professional when I get to it, thanks
Oh the cooking pot isn't that bad, it's a few seconds at most for anything in there. The real waiting tedium comes from racks and oven IMO
I generally use the pot to prep more stuff while the oven is baking. Alternating between them breaks up the tedium pretty well
you forgot the fact that you dont make only a few but like a tonne at a time
A few stacks, dunno exactly what you mean by a ton. I try not to have overly huge stockpiles of food
8 total cores (I think). The secret is to eat food
Eating food is all of valheim's secret
Bro ate 2 pieces of meat and a yellow glowing mushroom and proceeded to kill 15 skeletons with a axe and a door this truly is the viking grindset
Bro got a bit of rage
spare a couple wood for a club, worth the extra inventory slot IMO
He pressed L3 + R3
I already have a flint axe which does more damage I believe
Skelly boys are weak to blunt
They seem to take more damage to my axe though, I've used the club and it takes like 8 hits to kill one as opposed to the 5 it takes with the axe
Oh ok, well use whatever works the best
Also, I've completed building a kiln and it's a coal generator which seems obvious now. Only 2 more cores and I'll hop off and hibernate
If u can tho id really recomend stagbreaker, it does large AOE and its 20 blunt, 5 pierce
I'll find out what that is when I get to it ๐ค I might start maining bows
Thanks for the recommendation tho
Break a pine tree then u get the recipe, thats all it is also very easy to make
U can use a flint axe
I did it and got the recipe, thanks for helping me out man I appreciate it
Holy crap I looted this dungeon that had like 6 cores I'm swimming in riches and fortune
The king will do a hard belly laugh when I return to him with this incredible advancement. Infinite luck has been cast upon me if you ignore the 80th times that I've died
loll
No problem man
Is there any way for someone who has the game on Steam to play with someone on Xbox?
yes
How so?
Just use crossplay.
Valheim soundtrack on Apple when
Iโm tempted to click that
But I donโt trust it
It's purile.
That describes it fairly well.
@spice salmon this isn't the channel for promoting streams, that belongs in #self-promotion
Hi all, am new do I need to go through initiation sequence?
if you mean for the server, kinda. there are steps to allow you access to some/most of the available chat channels. it mostly boils down to reading and following the rules, looking at the chat descriptions and choosing in rules-and-info what channels you want access to.
the sailing to ashlands music is so good
Hi everyone!
Please advise, please, yesterday started playing with a friend in this game. The world created him, now he unfortunately sleeps, and I want to go to that world to play while he sleeps.
Is this possible?
If he sets it up as a dedicated server
Or if he hands you the save files before he gets off
No news
https://valheim.com/news/development-blog-in-case-you-missed-it/ Latest blogpost about what they've been up to
Finally made it to Ashlands and oh my itโs beautiful
I love the Morgen theyโre so cool
I do see why people have so many complaints but I love the way weโre clearly not welcome in this biome
and you can see (maybe a bit less if a storm comes in) and you don't have to climb like in Mistlands!
You should see the solutions as well
Or I mean, after you're done
Ashlands is amazing until the immersion is broken
Broken because of the solutions to deal with Ashlands
Everything in Ashlands 10/10
Combat 4/10
Does the sealed tower allways only has 2 chests in the bottom?
Did you defeat the miniboss?
The lightning from the storm is absolutely gorgeous
To be fair though I donโt mind the mist
It feels immersive and has an edge to it so I really like it
Which is?
Cheesing ai with building or something?
Everyone has something similar
Common ones are
Ignore enemies, jump up and down a rock cus enemies are slow climbers, always have bonemass, use Vine staff, lower your difficulty , etc..
It's been a while, but there were many conversations
Oh best one is to have felled trees
Since they're not terrain, ai need to constantly repath
But all of these are "gameplay"
Which is why I give it 4/10
Everything else? 11/10 even
None of the members in my group enjoyed it
I had to solo 80% of the biome
And have my friends log in only to join the forts
Yea i did
Ok, I donโt recall all what was in there when we completed it, but if youโve done that, and you have ||the chest for Hildir||, that should be all you need.
Took me a while to love Mistlands but now I do
Hello,
Can i have your opinion on something?
How funny is the term : beige flag rizzler?
Too out of context
Anything can be funny in context
On its own kinda lame, with context it might be hilarious.
Hello everyone. Please tell me, will achievements be added to steam and when?
Probably when the game leaves early access
I think itโs good but not necessarily in a funny way
Iโm pretty sure smiffe confirmed achievements come with full game
There was a reason they donโt have them now
I'm also loving the mistlands but also "hate" it to some point.
It is a good looking biome and the special mobs like morgen and fallen valkyrie are nicely done (except the combat) they look terrifying and the first few times you fight them is a steep learning curve but once you get the hang of them they become quite easy.
The fact you can't really get a respite unless you do some cheese spawn proofing is a let down, some other mechanic to make a safe zone other than spawn proofing would have been nice.
Like something you could build after you have destroyed a spawner and gotten a drop from it for example, you can only build one in a pretty big radius.
The constant stream of loot that mostly consists of grausten and charred bones quickly fills up your inventory and you need to constantly empty it, a loot filter or lowering the drop rate would be nice.
All in all I like the biom but it could have been better.
Thanks guys ๐
Valkyries and morgens are the best new weapons because of friendly fire
That volley of arrows is some of the most beautiful shit to have coming straight at your face
Especially with at least 3 firing at the same time
They donโt do a ton of damage but are a safe way to attack a large group of enemies
I didnโt even really notice them doing friendly fire
But itโs hella chaotic to begin with
A lot of enemies hit each other
All enemies except charred and voltures have friendly fire on some or all attacks, using friendly fire is a great way to deal with larger groups of enemies
I noticed the puppies hitting things thatโs for sure ๐
Everything is a strategy except actually fighting them 
If you start building with Grauston then youโll realise why you get so much of it!
I've already got 2 bm chests worth of the stuff in only 12 ish hours of doing ashlands, it is a bit much.
Where do you get so much from? Is there a way to get it other than mining it from the ground?
what do you mean..? i take 2 steps and ive got another 3 stacks of the stuff
no, there's just that much constant destruction
seems like ruins actively break as well just from being in render distance
i need to put up a stack of boxes and stop throwing it away i guess. i do really like the roofs, and the big floor pieces are pretty handy...
Mornin gjall ๐
The enviroment gets destroyed by askvin, lava blobs, myself and other enemies and it just keeps piling up.
Those arches for example contain a ton and if you fight near them, good chance it will break and collapse.
โIfโ like we arenโt forced to fight by them at many points
that is some nice spiffy cat you got there ๐
Cat gifs and images are part of why Smiffe is the best CM.
Hey Smiffe, how is the vacation?
People underestimate those volleys
It doesn't do anything if it's one or two
But you will be progressively turned into Swiss cheese if there's a whole army of archers continuously shooting volleys at you.
They're not meant to deplete your hp in a single shot, they're meant to do it slowly so another enemy finishes you off
Although they do still hurt a lot as they're essentially a shotgun at close range
I do like the staff of fracturing I find it does a tad better than the ember staff.
Staff of Yag Meteor when? ๐
Too many variables to make it better than ember
It needs to be single target and a big enough target to eat all the shrapnel, and needs to be dead on to be better than ember
Every other time, ember will be better I think
Ember you can willy nilly shoot and achieve more
I tried so hard to make myself believe fracturing is better but
Ember won
Hey at least you can shoot it up in the sky and have it rain fire
For me it's mostly the Morgens roll attack that generates grausten
If your aim is good or you group up a bunch of mobs fracturing is quite good and the knockback seems to be more than ember.
It is true that with ember you just have to aim in the vicinity and it will do its thing.
Another point for ember is that you can easily be further away than with the fracturing.
For me the fracturing wins out but with a very small margin though.
I might go back to ember if the aiming gets to be annoying.
I used fracturing so much and tried to come up for a reason for it to be better but
1/10 times fracturing is better
Just too many conditions for maybe 10% more damage
The only real good thing about fracturing is the cost to craft and upgrade
It's practically free
Yeah, true.
So far I've only used it for a day (about 3 hours of playing) and find it better than the ember staff for now.
I might come back to ember though since it is a small margin and the close is good enough from ember does have its perks.
Can somebody explain how armor points work? Like does it defend against every damage type like if a gjall does 50 fire damage and with no armor u take 50 damage but with 50 armor points make u take 0 damage?
It is for all damage types.
If armor is less than half of raw damage, health lost = damage - armor.
But if armor is more than half of the damage, health lost = (Damage/(Armor*4))*Damage.
So 50 armor and 40 damage = 8 hp lost.
Fore more info check: https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_mechanics#Armor
no
Enemies there might be less fire resistant (maybe even weak to fire) and the staff should be upgradable to level 4
personally it feels a bit like a cheap loaner staff you give to friends trying to break into magic themselves without having to spend a lot of valuable eitr on extra gear
I don't think it'll be better relative to the other staffs -- its very cheap resource wise, the cheapest by far
i haven't used it but, seems mostly like a mob weapon. like raid response type business.
it seems like iy should be good in mines, but...tbh mostly seems to just break the wooden beams...heh
ember staff is just better
ostensibly the only advantage of fracturing staff is more projectiles so you might be able to skill up slightly quicker?
gotta be a good use case for it though. i feel like there's gotta be
ehhhh. ice is fast and dundr counts each pellet as a hit, sssoooo...
cheap loner staff is all I got
unless each tick on the dot counts toward skill..
maybe ill mess with it some when im goofin off solo. maybe it shreds frost caves or something random idk
maybe burning down the black forest when you have fire spread. somethin. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
any trick I am missing on how to grow vineberries? seems I'm doing something wrong, they are not growing berries at all ๐ฆ
before you get access to one of the Ashlands armor sets, what y'all finding is most "survivable" to get to that point, melee or mage?
I went with bow but you need tons and tons of arrows
yeah, i get the feeling that's gonna be a big part of it, you think that pairs better with the "light" mage set, for staying fast on the foot--there's no dedicated "ranged set" arguably in the Mistlands tier, so the other option is heavy armor.
I used a combination of carapace+fenris until you get the light set of Ashland
if vines are growing, berries will come
which is pretty dope
thanks ๐ guess I'll just to have to wait or farm them in Ashlands
yep. the vines also grow/spread really slowly, so be patient. i planted maybe a dozen around my garden wall and it doesn't seem like they produce much, but, we (2 players) haven't run out, so... meh?
Yea better to farm berries in the ashlands and use planted berry bushes as decoration at the base as a slow influx of berries
The game changed for me when I got access to mage in Mistlands... those Gjalls just burn to death now :). Also the shield from the staff of protection essentially makes you tanky as well... but that's once you level up your blood magic. Totally worth it though
Glitch
Love the mage build and it absolutely rolls over everything up to and including Mistlands, just curious if it holds up still in Ashlands as well as melee, as I've done just a little bit of both, and its pretty intense either way--they def pop the mage bubble WAY faster in Ashlands--and I'm not yet sold on which my best bet is, until I can lay may hands on some proper Ashlands gear
Your survivability will depend on your shield, sword(or w/e wep you use), and magic skill lvls... you can make either work for your use case... kiting is much easier with magic though which is necessary for the amount of mobs you deal with solo... and make sure you're eating the best food for its class whether it's eitr, stamina, or health. Melee is definitely more intense and a higher skill requirement vs magic due to timing parries and managing stamina
ty for the advice--I probs need magic/whatever easier lol, because while I'm decent...i can use whatever edge I can get here in the Ashlands!
Hello. Is there any plans to give Ashlands more updates? Like, would it be advisable to save some undiscovered map for future updates?
not really
as soon as you have enough flametal for one black forge upgrade its like 5 I think which you can get from Dvergr you can make carapace level 4, thats a great start for melee and holds up nicely, its equivalent armour to flametal level 1
I have conquered 10 forts , beat the boss and done the side quest. Just curious if I should keep going on my path of destruction or put this game on ice until the deep north update.
lol you should come help me get my body back would be my suggestion
I could... never done that but ok
I have a portal right near it. no boat ride
just need basalt bombs, my body is on a flametal node.
and a valkyrie is circling it.
like vultures
voltures are only dangerous when you die
Their damage is so low
They deal 110 slash...
And have fast attack speed
It's like fighting an empowered wolf
The Voltures? The things I was just face tanking and ignoring in carapace armor while on hard?
They were hitting for like 17
When I first saw them I was oh no oh no oh no and then they hit me and I thought huh flies swat
Much like skeeters' after you get full padded and plains level food.
Level 4 carapace is quite good actually
True but this is ignoring them while using the previous biome gear
But with the biome befores armor*
Voltures can be dangerous when there is 5 or more
I can see that but that then begs the question of why did you let them pile up? They only take what 3/4 hits to kill
Well using silver sword
the thing that kills me most in Ashlands is 2 star warriors really, in PTB everything else can be handled relatively easily with enough preparation, if you make some mistakes a 2 star warrior will end you haha
That stab animation is deadly
The fake out is tough for sure.
They give like a false sense of security, you can walk around them without them swinging, they give 8 minute wind ups and then boom insta poke
Have you tried just being a warriors shadow? They never strike
also when going mage and having some ashlands staves, if you're skill level is high enough you don't have to fear a lot of things
Melee only there has been rough thatโs for sure
on normal mode with carapace 4, mistwalker 4 and carapace buckler level 3 its okay, even easier if you get flametal armour 2 or 3, mistwalker is incredibly strong in ashlands (hope this is how dyrnwyn will be in Deep North or maybe even better)
Thundering Berserkir axes personally only good with a little bit of skill, at axe skill 3 it doesnt rock as much, trying to get it up right now haha
Ye Iโm excited to get some better gear for this place
It will be nice once more bench upgrades roll out. If I remember right, flametal heavy armor is the same armor as max carapace but less durability due to the limited bench level.
*memory from ptb pre live.
It seems blood bubble is just better than armor in general anyway so Iโll probably stick the magic robes
The diminishing returns already make heavy armor so unappealing combined with movement penalty
outside of fortress I run 2 stamina 1 health food in heavy armour, works well, and switch to 2xhealth when doing a fortress in melee but normally I do as mage with 3 eitr food for fortress to just murder things there
so I end up with a lot more stamina when running heavy which makes it feel okay with the movement penalties
Hm, Once Human takes a while before you're actually playing the game.
15 minutes of walking 10ft then pressing F to watch a cutscene with exposition. Then another weird section with the actual plot and then finally you're dropped into the game world whereupon it just becomes a standard surivival crafter with the plot very much in the background.
I hate the design trend of PRESS E (or whatever button) to perform an action, when really you're continuing a cutscene.
so it's more like "press E" to play.
Button mashing to crawl out of the pit in Cyberpunk for instance. Pointless. Just make it a cutscene.
But apparently people exist who find that engaging somehow
Those kind of mechanics were super engagingโฆ. Like 20 years ago
This blows my mind when a game is so successful but plays like this
Where it plays a cutscene and you press the button prompt
I think I've seen something similar in ghost of Tsushima which really make me not want to play it
Cutscenes overall usually ruin games for me
I'll never play last of us or whatever
It looks boring as hell yet it's considered one of the best games out there
The trade off there is the story
You get exciting games with horrible stories or boring games with amazing stories. Itโs hard to find a middle ground
If I'll play a story game
It'll have to be purely story
Like a visual novel, like phoenix wright
What would you consider valheim?
Ever played A Way Out?
Incredible game ngl. I played wit my brother on our old xbox
Both me and my brother were tearing up a bit at the end
extremely felt bud
Not really
I might have not said exactly what I wanted to say
A game with great gameplay can have great story
I just don't want a game that anchors on story
Quick time events
Cutscenes
All these I hate
Damn, so i suppose A Way Out's a no-go for ya
Maybe
Like I wouldn't play god of war
Or last of us
Not being a snowflake
Idc who likes these
mkay edgelord, but i suppose everyone's got their taste
Ah I figured my opinion would be taken that way
Like I tried playing DMC 5
The cutscenes made me stop every time
I tried many times but I got sick of it every time
Part of the problem is that if you don't have a strong plot and good voice acting to carry those cutscenes, it's like watching a bad movie
But cutscenes are taken seriously no?
Monster hunter for example, the fights themselves look like cutscenes
Hell, sailing into Ashlands felt better than watching any cutscene out there
But even more in depths
When a single button command does so many things at once
That's probably worse (?) I don't have a full opinion yet
To simplify
I dislike cutscenes and the thing mentioned earlier where one button does everything and you watch
I don't want to sit and watch the game
huh, that coaxes my recommendation to a way out back again
cuz ya actually do stuff there and are able to semi roam and do stupid stuff
choices, scary i know
I don't doubt you
It's probably a good game
Morgen gjall.
Mornin
It's probably completely contradictory that I like Undertale, phoenix wright, and plan to play baldurs gate
So it's really hard for me to actually point out why I hate cutscenes
There's some games where it's like
"OH! a cutscene!!"
Vs
"Dear God not another cutscene I don't care"
A treat vs a nuisance
I love and hate cutscenes, a whole lot of cutscenes aren't done right and it ruins stuff.
Other curscenes are a work of art and done right and then I can't wait to get to the next.
In tears of the kingdom the cutscenes felt great because you activated them yourself and they're like 30s to 2mins
I'm a story man, I'll never shy away from a cutscene
When you play Nier replicant and you face multiple enemies in a fun fashion
Vs in ghost of Tsushima where you press one or two buttons (idk the game enough)
I want to play it but I saw the game play on a reel or something showing how "cool" it was but it looked not fun
Stories are great always for sure
I love a good story
But not at the expense of gameplay
Exciting game with great* lore but lacking story
Well not all games are really meant to have the best gameplay. Some people like myself just enjoy an interactive story to get chill out to. But I can understand why some people would find it boring.
Can I get an example? Curious
I realized this sailing into Ashlands
I said
"This is the cutscene!"
At least with baldurs gate you have like 3 hours of combat between cutscenes
I plan to play it, I just don't have the time (aka other games in queue)
I didnโt get through it myself but itโs a very very nice game
Iโm also more burnt out on turn based games and only got it because of the hype
Well just at the top of my head, I played detroit become human recently. The whole gameplay side of it is basically just pressing a certain key when prompt. But I still enjoyed the game very much because of the wonderful story. (I think this is the sort of game you meant, correct me if I'm wrong)
Aaah it's so hard argue this
Detroit become human is probably incredible
I saw someone mentioned the button spam for a scene in cyberpunk and I canโt even remember that scene
Iโve 100% the game and Iโm now going through a second time to 100% again with the dlc and I canโt remember that type of scene
I feel that a button mash QuickTime event can only be fun in horror games
I donโt doubt itโs there but thereโs so little QuickTime events in that game I think itโs kinda okay there is some
Oh wait I vaguely remember one towards the end of the story missions now
Yeah in my opinion it is, but that's what I mean. I didn't leave that thinking wow that gameplay was amazing, I left thinking the story was amazing and thats why I loved it
Crawling on the ground for a gun or something
I guess if a game is truly made in a story type fashion then it's fine
Agreed, I just love a story game at times
But if a game like let's say
Last of us
If you havenโt played cyberpunk and plan to you I highly recommend watching the anime cyberpunk edge runners first. That way when you meet Adamโs savage youโll have the proper hate in your heart for him
I remember all my friends said it's awesome
It never looked appealing
Because what is it
Is it a shooter?
Cyberpunk? Itโs basically fallout but futuristic and not a wasteland
Random take, GTAV also has a cool story with cutscenes that dont suck
My experience of two games I really disliked was god of war demo and DMC 5
I didn't play GTA V and I had it
I actually liked the last of us. I'd say it definitely depends on how you approach the game. I went into it because I was told it had a great story so I expected a story driven game. But if you go in expecting a great zombie shooter you'll probably be disappointed so I understand what you mean
Hmmm
I feel I'd rather watch it than buy it and play it
Yeah makes sense. But for me being able to control a character gives me a stronger connection to them which is why I love stories presented as games
All comes down to preference
I completely understand
But also I don't
Wouldn't you have preferred like
A resident evil style uhh
Gameplay loop with occasional cutscenes rather than
Walking and entering cutscenes?
I feel like the last of us was structured pretty similar to resident evil games. Zombie/human fighting in between cutscenes with a bit of adventure. And the last of us combat wasn't horrible, it did what it needed to do in my opinion. If the game didn't have a big story backing it then it would've flopped for sure but the combat sort of falls into the story. It isn't just continues cutscenes, they have a good amount of fighting and exploring in between
๐hmm..
And it also tells the story during gameplay too, it isn't just purely story in cutscenes only. A good chunk of the story is told while traveling/fighting
So that's why I enjoy game stories, it feels a bit more invloved
You're making it hard to have an opinion on it hahah
Because these are valid points
But personally
I feel that if I picked the last of us, I'd be peeved
How come?
If the cutscene wasn't good, I'd want to go back to the game
If the gameplay wasn't good, I'd rush to the next cutscene
I just think back to my experience with dmc5
I played about 2-3 hours
I literally feel like I played 5 minutes of those 3 hours
They just donโt feel like they have any traveling or exploring to me
But I feel like with the last of us specifically, the cutscenes are amazing and the gameplay is fine. I never played dmc5 so I have no idea how it plays.
Yeah that reminds me
Are you traveling or going where the game asked you to go even
I stopped playing the last of us because I felt like I didnโt get to make any real choices in my gameplay
It's quite linear
Linear gameplay feels more like reading a book
It probably deserves the praise it got
It was probably a really good book
So you'll have limited exploring but there are definitively things the more exploring type will find that others will miss
Yeah well thats the thing I have been saying. It isn't trying to be an open world in depth gameplay game. It is trying to tell you a story, and that is the main focus
It's a different experience. For example, answer this, why have movies when we have books?
I think the real issue with QuickTime gameplay is not respecting that everything in the world isnโt designed for you
Jrpgs have a shit ton of text and I love it
Because people canโt read
I feel that everything I say contradicts myseld
I can't really put a finger on what I dislike
Well then why do people who can read watch movies?
The dichotomy of humans
They donโt ๐
That was a silly follow up question to my joke ๐
I read my movies to be fair
Subtitles for life
My bad couldn't tell if it was a joke
I mean Iโm not realistically going to claim people canโt actually read
Haha
I think that your question also has more to do it than that when thereโs like a whole brain rot addictive cycle to sucking in media
People donโt doom scroll books as much as they do video media
If subtitles are on, I stop listening
So I keep them off
I canโt hear what theyโre saying without subtitles
My point is, there are movies, shows, books, games. All these ways of telling a story. Just because a game could be presented as a book doesn't mean the game is bad, or vice versa. Same as a movie to a book or a book to a movie. So yes, the last of us is linear but it isn't trying not to be
I feel I can't hear what they say when subtitles are on 
Itโs like blah blah proper place noun this verb adjective blah blah
Facts
I end up just reading and not listening
I read it and then listen half the time
Since you can read the two lines before they get past two words
I usually have it off
I can't remember the last time I watched a show without subtitles
I peripheral read it at this point ๐
But I think... I'd rather read dialogue than watch cutscenes?
Maybe I'm old-school and cutscenes are supposed to be a treat once in a while
Haha, maybe I'm just fat and love treats
Maybe just old? ;p
Naw that can't be it
Elden ring exists and it hardly has cutscenes and it's an incredible game
Valheim
Prime examples of experiencing it rather than watching it
Diablo 2 had cutscenes and pretty good ones at that and was also an incredible game.
No game compares to the best game though and itโs got amazing cutscenes that are unmatched by anything in current day media
Jrpgs have a lot of dialogue and technically "cutscenes"
Like tales of Symphonia had lots of dialogue but it felt balanced
I can't decide
Let the dice do the deciding.
Nat20
Cutscenes suck
I only played Symphonia and vesperia
Zesteria I really didn't like so I quit
Heard good things about xillia
I only really played those two
The one that came out after I got and was excited to play but it had a camera bug that made the game actually unplayable for any normal person
Zestiria I think
I have berseria which I still didn't play
I want to play arise
So many games to play
So many cutscenes to watch
I to see the arise season of solo leveling ๐
I forgot I was hoping someone would ask whatโs the best game youโre talking about ๐
Maybe no one asked because everyone knows the obvious answer
Viva piรฑata
Mornin gjall ๐
Hello Kitty Online.
Club penguin/poptropica square up if you disagree
Thatโs just a poor copy of mined-out
You take that back.
Iโm feeling froggy, I might just leap
Be careful. That can lead to navigating a real Gauntlet.
I absolutely love gauntlet but only on like ps4
Because Iโm bad and I need to cheat with the extra health button they give you in every version thatโs not on the actual machine
I was playing it at this barcade last Christmas and I couldnโt get past like 3-4 stages
I should of looked up some tips but I was convinced Iโd figure out to get through it without taking so much damage
I'm out here thinking of the original stand-up arcade version and you're bringing it all the way up to 2010+?
The newer versions are the only ones I can enjoy with my skill issue ๐
The best Gauntlet for me will always be the Spectrum version. But thatโs because it was the first I played. And it still blows my mind how they even managed to write that game for that system, technically.
Yep I'm late to this old game convo but:
If we are bringing up old games, there was this game on stand up arcade machine called "road rage". You were a biker and would pick up random weapons and fight other bikers and cars for supremacy of the road.
Also, all the "sonic the hedgehog" games. Running in loops trying to collect all the rings. Fighting Eggman and his creations.
Both were great games. And both were available to me as a kid at our dentists office. It was a "treat" for after an appointment.
Speaking of eggmenโฆ
Who remembers Dizzy?
Someone named HYPER has low enegry?
Now that's what you call ironic...
He's hyper at night when he should be sleeping, therefor is tired in the morning.
What can I say, sleep apnea is a bitch lol
nonono, he is hyper exhausted

Loved those games, but damn they were hard.
I think I maybe completed one of them. After reading a guide in a magazine. ๐คฃ
Funny thing is, though I was all about how difficult games were back in the day, now I want โstory modeโ difficulty levels.
Ive been stuffing sausages from 10 am to 6 47 pm
Its a pain the ass
You're doing it wrong.
After thinking of how ive worded it
Yes
Biscuit...
What are you doing with those sausages...?
Could the portal for transferring ingots be accessible earlier than in Ashlads, where itโs more or less useless to me?
You can always change the world modifier to allow ores through normal portals. But no, it's part of the game progression. It encourages you to sail.
Also, it's certainly not useless to you as the next place you'll need to go is the Deep North on the other side of world.
there is no coffee. why is there no coffee.
Because tea is better.
so I'm staying at my brother's for a bit, right? sister in law asks what I want from the store. i say, coffee (been out for like 2 weeks, and where i come from that's not just like party foul, it's rude), red meat, yoghurt. she gets chicken and salad.
so....why ask me what i want...?
you take that back ๐
what about the meat and yoghurt?
I cannot, for it is the truth.
Tea is objectively better than coffee.
Get out of the office, you are supposed to be on vacation!
Good Smiffe. Enjoy your time off with an adorable cat, or 2.
and don't forget the tea coffee
no yoghurt either. there's chicken, but i keep saying "red meat" for a reason.
there's not even a decent tea around. there's like...a peppermint one?
like first time, whatev, but this kinda thing is consistent and i legit can't tell if she's just ...still a kid, or this is is passive aggressive hate.
could have just been she forgot -- if I don't write stuff down I'm not gonna remember
in any case it sounds like you might be projecting some of your own feelings
texted while she was at the store. also, samething thougj, once is whatever, but repeatedly for weeks? always the same thing?
lol
or.. the store didn't have whatever it was
Stuffing them?
see ...exactly. that's not rly a thing. at first i was just like oh she forgot or was distracted, but... we're talkin staple foods from a grocery store...like i can't rly justify it anymore, and this is kinda just one example. i don't wanna think she's doing it intentionally but ..."in my experience, yadda yadda" -- anyway, "best case" i can see anymore is that she's just ...not grown up. heh
idk. it's just been bugging me for a while, and now i find out we're goin into third week "forgot" coffee. (btw like a month ago she straight up told me she was "good about always keeping extra coffee so we never run out")
meh.
in other news, haldor.
I had on separate occasions both of my sisters' family living with me for a time. It's incredibly surprising how quickly certain things disappear and/or add up.
somewhat related: do you pay for any of these groceries, or rent? When was the last time you went to the store and got her something?
but honestly yeah I don't need to draw out this conversation if you're done.. just trying to help give some outside perspective.
well imean i didn't really want to go all ranty in valheim discord lol, i just don't get it. more than anything it's the asking thing. like i didn't just ask for this stuff, she asks what i want...
Hello fellow vikings! Is there any way to reach out to the developers? I have a suggestion for a better translation of the poems on sacrificial stones at the spawn
theres a whole channel dedicated to exactly that: #suggestions
Is it for translation suggestions though?
how much are there actuall developers of valheim taht can work on the game not including mods that are on the servere
All of them.
all mods developers and helpers?
Hm, game mods? No. But some are.
i once ve heard that only 3 people develop this game
i mean moderators
We had one 5 years ago. Now it's about 14.
https://valheim.com/support > Translation Errors
5 ?
valheim is out on sale for 3 years
And?
ig
Thank you, but I am not talking about the errors. Poems on the sacrificial stones are not as epic in my native language compared to English so I simply want to suggest better ones that I wrote myself
so u want to translate the whole game in ur native language js by urself ?
No, just the 7 poems on the starting stones
oh right
Don't mind the name of the section, that is the official channel for translation suggestions of any kind.
You have a section to explain why it should be changed, you can add as much detail as you see fit.
I sincerely hope the devs would see my idea. Thanks for help!
add thor to the game as a side quest or a side boss ๐
trust
For game suggestions we have #suggestions
No, it would not.
thor is in the game already ๐
If I ever get a chance to see mine used in game it would be the greatest honor to me!
and he does nothing
js throws lighting or i dont know something
Yeah, because he has more important, Thor shit to do.
Simmer down, now
yes throwing lighitns whenever its raining
This isn't Dad of Boy. The goal is not killing gods.
The goal is earning Odin's favor so you can get into Valhalla.
Fighting Thor would be the exact opposite of that goal.
yeah i forgot all this role of valheim
๐
tbh valheim could have more content like side quests and more animals cuz this game is kinda emptry
what it really needs is robots with laser eyes. and unicorns.
perfect examplke
...(sigh)
my head hurts.
walk it off
my heads been hurting all day
I wish my head hurt but sadly Iโm fine ๐
and we all know a game which has that xd
That adult swim game from 20 years ago?
Robot unicorn attack
I had just googled it a minute ago
14 years ago but not too far off 20
all but 1
but that 1 will also go into production soon ๐
so then all of the developers will have hands on
ive got my ion you
Is there any dedicated servers I could join?
Mornin gjall ๐
U are from Europe?
indeed i am
Oh me too, i tought yall are americans
nah, not me at least ๐ i just have messed up sleep schedule XD
Yea me too, i go to sleep at 2am for me
alot of our discord users are Europeans ๐
alot of recent active (and new) valheim players seem to be NA though
I'm an old European living in Australia ๐
German
Morgen gjall.
ะตะฟะฐะฝะฒัะต ัะพั
sorry to burst your bubble but its an english server
๐ซง
It's meant to be viking purgatory and thus some people believe the would has to be empty and boring. It's reminiscent of the Reasoning Todd Howard gave, when people complained about how Starfield was empty and boring. He said space exploration is boring and the fact there's nothing on the planets is realistic.
But our wise god gaben said it best: "Realism isn't always fun."
I would love some side quests and more interaction with dvergr and fuling factions.
But there's a few gatekeepers here, who fanatically hold on to the idea, that viking purgatory needs to be boring and that it's a design choice.
It's empty so I can build my big ass city
It's not empty? We have side quests.
We do have a few side quests indeed, but they're all bounty quests, and more side quests would be nice. Maybe even a main quest.
On the other hand, not every game needs a main quest.
This isn't an MMO.
is it an RPG though?
No.
There is a main quest - kill all the bosses and place their trophies on the sacrificial stones
we have that tho, its: "Kill and sacrifice the Forsaken to get to Valhalla." ๐
isnt the whole, kill all the bosses the main quest?
Yep
Technically.. maybe
There are no classes, only a rudimentary skill tree, precious few NPCs and only one that provides quests. It's not an RPG.
You should all realize that this will become a pointless discussion where it will eventually devolve into "no no I right you all wrong I want them to add what me specifically wants and everything else not related to that is wrong"
So don't bother
Oh, it's already pointless.
It has happened way too many times guys, from the very first message it should be obvious
See? And barely five minutes in
Gatekeeper #1 just showed up
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it does.
I had a mage tower for me
An archery range for our archer
A barracks for our warrior
And a quest lodge for our cartographer
I guess that would count as full rpg
But in my head, rpg is lots of numbers
A lot left to improve on valheim because so many systems built with plains in mind and not updated with the biomes
It's what I think
you are correct. I'm gonna have to try to find a new word to describe the behaviour of trying to exagerrate one's own authority over others, simply because someone has played a game for longer or is more experienced, trying to invalidate new player's opinions.
But.. you know
"Game is perfect"
Nobody other than you said it was ๐
But noone is doing that..
That's in the eyes of the observer obviously
Doesn't seem like something that's up for debate. Either they're doing that or not..
Ok then you're wrong. The dude has been on his high horse since forever and just over-evaluates his own opinion.
Ok, and moving on.
All games are perfect.

To some people, the world of Valheim feels too empty.
Others seem to be fine with it. Make of it what you want.
It'll take a long time for the short comings to turn into "charm"
Like running for 30 minutes in classic WoW is part of the charm
But if it came out now like this, it would be completely pooped on
The day before....
It the land between heaven and hel supposed to be brimming with life? (Genuine question)
Right now, these mistakes can be fixed
Only after 10 years would they start being charming
I answered this earlier
Link?
It's not the land between heaven and hell.
And in the future it'll be "just mod it"
isnt it the land cut off from the world tree
That's already the mantra basically. Don't like how stamina works? Mod it.
Don't like that there's no inventory gear slots? Mod it.
Wanna craft 400 sausages without clicking 100 times? Mod it.
i actually dont have aproblem with sausage production lol
especially less after spending the whole day yesterday irl making sausages
Starfield poke is literally a dev not being able to admit a mistake ๐คทโโ๏ธ but I get your point.
My counterpoint would be "it is early access." And if I were the man running the show, the priority would be finishing the last biome. Because only after you have the whole picture of the game in place can you go back and see about things like faction systems and such.
Would hate to have one of my people spend months making a robust interaction system only to drop Deep North and then have to have them go back and remake that entire system to account for any new stuff we added.
Just my opinion ๐คทโโ๏ธ
That's like playing Fifa and complaining you can only win by scoring the most goals.
That's when I feel the devs are out of touch
When you see "added 50+ new items this patch" but no where to put them
Or when new build structures are heavier than what you can carry
I don't want to say they don't play their own game
But jeez
ooh boy you went and said it lol
The inventory system was made when? Pre alpha?
Now we're using the same inventory system for all these new biomes and extra items
I'll have to disagree there, I've rarely seen as much QoL locked behind mods as in Valheim.
The game is supposed to be hardcore and brutal, I get that, but early game stamina game while mining and tree cutting is just one of the worst experiences I've had in any game.
I didn't drop it because people promised me magic, and from the mistlands on the game really improved.
Lamps still require resin
Nothing is locked behind mods. They're all optional.
Definitely makes the game balanced imo
If I don't manually put resin in my lamps, the game becomes too easy
I wonder if Blues actually plays Valheim or just sits here and complain about devs๐ค
Is it wrong to complain?
It'smy genuine opinion when I realized I'm encumbered for trying to craft flametal gate
I'd love to hear it straight of how that's a great idea
"oh but you have to craft it one gate at a time to not be encumbered?"
Copypasta from suggestions discussion:
Questioning the developer's decisions might be seen as inpolite, but frankly I hope the developers are mature enough to value any criticism and question their own decisions.
What you're doing is essentially asking me and others not to point out any flaws in the game, which is part of the reasons why suggestions threads like this one exist.
These problems are always flying under the radar for no reason
Now I don't see anywhere in any of the complaint something unreasonable or evil
I geniunely believe it's out of touch
you do know that we are all on vacation atm. and this channel get about 10-15000 lines every day right?
And I don't like seeing when someone brings an opinion
It's immediately shunned
some things like all the recipes mixed up at crafting stations including cauldron and forge etc they devs said they will address, just not right now when biome 8 is not yet done, maybe they will do that whilst working on biome 8
We only hear player opinions who stand firm on things that shouldn't be changed
Or that definitely should.
Early game. Go play a finished one, and come back in a year or 2.
Like this
I don't think that helps. A lot of things that are being complained about here aren't going to change. They're baked into what the game is.
So now I've been told that I don't play valheim
And to play something else
Pick a lane team
The point is just, you are criticizing a house being build, where the windows are still not in, and only ยฝ the roof is on. What do you expect us to say? that you are the heroes we need?
Oh yeah it's busy. I never intended to put pressure on anyone and I'm sorry if it sounded that way. Enjoy your vacation. Your game has great potential, but it's still rough around the edges. I wouldn't be here if I disliked it entirely, and sometimes my criticism can be overly negative.
Smiffe remains the best CM to ever do it ๐
That's bait
Its not. Are we speaking about buying a 70$ game that says its ALL of things and then turns out to be shit, or a 20$ game that says "we are still deving the shit out of this game, its not going to be all you ever wanted in a game"
You're missing the whole picture friend
That's not the point of any of it
You're taking it in another direction
A direction I'm not interested in
Fair point. I'm one of the people who the house is being built for and I'm standing there with a beer in hand telling the construction workers to put enough silicon in the windows so it's airtight. Don't take me too serious at all times, I don't either. I'm mostly trying to help but sometimes it derails into being a smartass.
I love when people join discussion an hour in.
If someone has an opinion, they shouldn't be chastised for it
Enjoy your day gentlemen, pleasure to discuss the game with you.
Have a really good day.
Imagine DECIDING to play an unfinished game and then whine about the game being unfinished.
Sounds perfectly rational, doesn't it?
Oh, I thought we'd finished.
Inconceivable!
Thank you.
at this point im just sitting back and eating chips while watching the chat lol
You don't need to treat it like chaos
Wish more people did that rather than engage in what's borderline a troll bait...
a cute kitty cat
most of my recent gifs are crows, i don't know if they work as well
a cute...... Murder crow?
You're doing exactly that in another channel.
You're welcome.
who's that directed at 
Rianu, sorry.
Well I did stop
Deep North bringing cats to Valheim? ๐ฑ๐
make it happen
I would LOVE that ๐
it's still possible, we have to believe
๐
When the official maj ?
The official what?
Majora's mask
official release
When the game is done and ready for release
no, devs said cats are too cool they don't need to prove themselves in Valheim to ascend to Valhalla if I remember correctly, they go straight to Valhalla already
So only orange cats in Valheim ๐
haha
Still long way to go ๐
It's not that they were forced into Valheim.
They just... got lost.
hello people, I have a problem on my server, where all players, including non admins, can infintely craft items if they have needed resource
do you know how to fix that and what would be possibilities of this happening? is it another admin did what I dont know?
Adding cats will always be an easy win in whatever game that adds cats
not enough meowing. i always vacuum them up in every village i pass by, collect an army at home
They prevent Creeper spawns. So you kind of want them everywhere.
and like, maybe then type /data merge entity @e[type=cat,limit=1,sort=nearest] {Silent:1b} once or twice
do love the meowing, but wish the tamed meowing included the wild ones
they're both cute~
One does not simply silence a cat.
Other than increasing distance, the closest to a silent cat is a purring one.
you're right, i should just see if i can increase the variety of meows by messing with the sounds.json...not often i get anything to work there.
I'd be willing to bet there would be people who would buy Valheim purely because there was a tameable cat in game (if one was added)
i would buy it again ๐
Cats are tameable IRL?
Hardly but this is a video game where anything is possible
Now, if this was Egyptian mythos, then cats would make a lot of sense. They are aparently the gatekeepers for the underworld. But I don't remember a lot of mentions of the fluffball(s) in viking mythos.
Iโd rather have a pet neck than a pet cat 
Asksvins are the grandparents of necks
The only thing I "know" about cats and vikings that apparently a gift for newlyweds was a kitten.
That would explain the "senior moment" of running off...
Vikings absolutely had cats
They actually helped spread cats to other places cuz they took them on their boats
yep, lots of them conected to Freya for example
I would not be surprised it IRL vikings had cats, but I can only vaguely remember Freya having them.
I was more surprised to learn that Vikings had chickens since they are a species native to east Asia, but it seems they got them from trade with the Romans
they are not really represented much in myths truth to be told, or at least i cant remember much of them
Glorious chicken. Arguably the greatest livestock ever
yep, they give you eggs, they get rid of garbage, and you can also eat them
Can't plow a field with em but man can they sustain lives of a family and they'll eat just about anything
Something, something, Freya being pulled in a sleigh by cats, something, something.
That's the extent of what I remember
Freya's chariot was pulled not by horses but by two male cats. Both cats were described as being blue or gray and had been a gift from Thor.
also cats played a part in weddings iirc, something also conected to Freya
It is believed by some that kittens were a common wedding gift for the bride in order for her to be able to set up her new household.
why do Gjalls always get a Good morning but the other mobs get no love
morgens are also mentioned ๐
Morgen Fallen Valkyrie just isn't the same