satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

There is already a perfectly simple system, the humble manifold

[prime basin]

bro, stop using logic to thwart my fantastical, illogical ideas

its very rude /j

[fluid sapphire]

Can't help myself

[neat plank]

You either split things evenly, or you split things as you go.

[mortal ginkgo]

They can have a logistics floor below to hide output, but can surely bring input outside for showcase #screenshots message 😄

[neat plank]

Also I have an urge to rebuild my factories with a logistics floor.

Jumping over conveyers gets old.

[ornate saffron]

set up some ramps and do the sick jumps in a Factory cart

[neat plank]

I mean if you've not rebuilt Hangar from Tony Hawk 1 for your Factory Cart.

Are you even Satisfactory?

[ornate saffron]

im certainly not. I make crocodiles and barges

[keen flame]

what the hell does that mean 😭

[fluid sapphire]

Well, don't. Slide under them

[keen flame]

that's a sick idea i'll do that

..sometime in the future

..probably

[fluid sapphire]

Why hide precious conveyor belt

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[fluid sapphire]

I tried to make a logistics floor at one point, ended up looking liminal and weird #screenshots message

[neat plank]

Logistics floor. Glass floor.

[fluid sapphire]

But I couldn't have done a clean job with it topside so I guess this was still the better option in the end #screenshots message

[noble nova]

i the experimental patch out? if so, how do I play it?

[fluid sapphire]

All glass ends up looking a bit odd, I have tried it

[keen flame]

my neck is in pain from trying to watch that

[white dawn]

It is, yes.
If you're on Steam: Right-click to get to game properties, go to the Betas tab, choose "experimental," wait for the game to update with the Experimental version
If you're on EGS: Experimental is a totally-separate game entry in your library; just download + run that

Edit: Ah, yeah, back up your saves! And blueprints! Any savegame or blueprint you save while on Experimental cannot be brought back into Public until v1.2 is merged in with the public branch

[ornate saffron]

i just tilted my phone

[fluid sapphire]

Back up your saves too

[keen flame]

i'm on pc!

but it's really cool

i might do something similar for the explorer

but not a closed area

rather a long range parkour course

[ornate saffron]

i gathered althouigh you could tilt your monetors. Good way to make you fam think youve gone loco

[keen flame]

but that is of course after like

i'm done with the story lol

[keen flame]

think that i've become....... moonatic

badumtss

that's actually fire nvm

[ornate saffron]

lol #rules . Be ware

[noble nova]

thank you!!!

[keen flame]

huh

ohhhhhh

nahh that was good

i'll be using that again

[ornate saffron]

made me chuckle

[keen flame]

the achievements are the same as on steam yea?

[sick falcon]

i wish seawater needed to be purified before it could be used as normal water

[keen flame]

also hi maxeek!

[keen flame]

someone probably has a mod for that

[ornate saffron]

WELCOME BACK TO THE FOLD. ARE YOU RUNNING !.2?

[little timber]

Thats realistic but would be annoying

[ornate saffron]

sORRY cAP lOCK

[sick falcon]

waiter waiter more hoops to jump through

[little timber]

Fair point ngl

I forgot thats the point of the game

Maybe we need map expansion with more materials and equipment to use

[sick falcon]

i got golden nut before any of the late game achievements

just have sinks running and itll complete itself

[prime basin]

if you wanna get satisfactory on steam and epic to have both the stable and expirimental, im assuming you have to buy it twice?

i only have it on steam tho :(

yeah

and i dont got $50 to spend on another copy of this game, no matter how much i want to support the devs

i guess ill just have to stick with the 2 separate computer method

also does anyone know when the little heart plant tag thing goes away?

[fluid sapphire]

The what now

[ornate saffron]

time

[prime basin]

more than 4 apparently

[edgy python]

When I did enchanted asset protection resource exchange for some reason I didn’t get the extra hand slot nor the inflated pocket dimension but I can craft the xeno basher

why is that?

[ornate saffron]

My brains broken. how do ytou set a train to full unload before continuing?

[fluid sapphire]

Open the train settings, then from there, stop settings

There's a drop down menu at the top

You have options like after one load/unload, or fully load/unload, I dont have the game in front of me so I the phrasing is probably wrong

[ornate saffron]

that should be enough to jog m,emory ty

[fluid sapphire]

I also like to set what I am loading or unloading, and use "none" for the other side if I am not loading/unloading, whatever the situation

[floral sparrow]

Is there a way to permanently remove a mushroom spawn?

[ornate saffron]

1000 hours in and some game aspects still make my brain go dumb dumb lol

[fluid sapphire]

I think this is probably one of the simplest ways to set up trains, A to B, single type of product, fully load/unload

Very reliable, given enough headroom

And of course, load/unload all platforms equally

[ornate saffron]

i agree.

[spiral stratus]

I've heard the most efficient way to play is to create a new fabric for every new need and tear up the old ones? Is that true?

[jagged nymph]

thats the least efficient way to play

[prime basin]

fabric?

[spiral stratus]

Factory

[jagged nymph]

never tear down a working factory unless you really need the nodes its using for something else

[spiral stratus]

Sorry, translation error

[ornate saffron]

Ive never needed Hughe throughput as i dont really make novelty or Vanity projects. But i am still wanting to learn regardless lol

[jagged nymph]

youve heard of Hughe Jackman, now get ready for Hughe Throughput

[remote siren]

true that i dont need block signals if i let my trains run only autopilot?

[jagged nymph]

no

[remote siren]

thought so

[jagged nymph]

you specifically need block signals if your trains are on autopilot (and you have multiple on the same rail network)

block signals basically divide the rails into chunks, only one train can be in a chunk at a time

[wind token]

Huh. Hypertube cannon challenge courses.

[remote siren]

so smarter to use path signals then

[plain marten]

is there a way to rotate blueprints more precisely over foundations

[jagged nymph]

they each do different things

they have different uses

[remote siren]

as far as the tooltip tells me, a path signal is an advanced block signal

[wind token]

I used a hypertube cannon and was weaving through trees in the red forest and was thinking about building a challenge course having to go through rings whilst flying through air witth differing heights.

[jagged nymph]

a plane is like an advanced car, but you wouldnt cross the atlantic in a ford focus nor would you drive a 747 to walmart

[remote siren]

pretty stupid comparison

[jagged nymph]

still do different things

[remote siren]

as i read the tooltip, the pathsignal does the same + more as the block

it reserves paths through the net and lets other trains stop turning into this path

[jagged nymph]

you need both

you cant use only path signals

well you dont need both you could use just block signals

but you dont just do path signals

[spare prism]

hi

[jagged nymph]

bye

[spare prism]

[fluid sapphire]

I could make do with a lot less, but it's nice that this works great at basically any scale no matter how large

[remote siren]

damn, i need to go my whole net and place signals

[feral vector]

do I typically want to keep extras of stuff I'm making? like instead of doing perfect ratios to use all my steel beams and modular frames for versatile frameworks, make some extras to have lying around when I need them?

seems like the earlier game stuff was all nice to have extras of

[keen flame]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

You use most materials for building in some capacity

[keen flame]

i made a storage with personal storage boxes for funsies but you can just make one with industrial containers for efficiency, though none of this is needed

you could always just direct whatever you're making toward what needs it

[fluid sapphire]

There are broad strokes two ways to go about it: either dedicated production for personal use, or skimming off the top where there is purposeful excess

[feral vector]

hmm I think I unlock industrial containers soon

[crimson bloom]

Hi everyone, I saw that the 1.2 is experimental. Do devs told when it will be available to the main game branch?

[feral vector]

seems like skimming is easier to set up early on? it's kinda janky throwing splitters and storage containers in the middle of my production chains though lol

[lost cloak]

no coal, no fuel generator, no nuclear reactor

possible? hmm

its been a while since they added animal protein, but biofuel got a massive buff when that happened

[unkempt blade]

yeah you'll be using a lot of items to build for the entire game. It's good to make some extras either seperately or as surplus in a factory and just sink them once your depot and any additional storage you want fills up

[feral vector]

that sounds awful heh, I'm still super early game but switching to coal was so nice

[fluid sapphire]

I think it's usually easier to do it the other way around, I generally skim for more complex products myself

[normal orbit]

when its ready

[keen flame]

hey!

[lost cloak]

i unironically think its super viable to skip coal now. Without suffering
rush steel pipes, get sloops going, and crank out some meat.

One animal can sustain ur factory for a LONG time

[feral vector]

hmm I'll try to set up some clean production chains for the next things I make

[keen flame]

in my personal experience they were a big "small upgrade"

[reef basin]

No, it does different things

[keen flame]

keep in mind it is always better to automate though

[reef basin]

You don't need both. You can play just with block signals

[feral vector]

you say all this like I have any idea how to do it lol that sounds like it would be a second playthrough thing

[jagged nymph]

i said that

[jagged nymph]

.

[lost cloak]

oh yea it is... we're using knowledge from lategame

[keen flame]

can you explain what each does

i'm yet to use them because i've 1 train

[feral vector]

all I know about sloops is I should get the production multiplier unlocked and use it with a constructor to process slugs

[lost cloak]

thats one thing to use them on, yea

[feral vector]

I'm trying not to google the shit out of this game, I can ruin my first playthroughs of stuff if I get too sweaty

[reef basin]

Can read wiki to see 🙂 but you can also experiment and see

[keen flame]

ah ok

[reef basin]

(On phone atm)

[lost cloak]

one animal remain makes 2 protein
2 protein makes 6000 biomass
6000 biomass makes 6000 Biofuel
6000 Biofuel gives 1250 minutes of runtime in one bio burner
one bio burner produces 30MW, which is same as one assembler

So in short, you can sustain 1 assembler for 20 hours with just 1 animal remain

[feral vector]

any generic tips for using blueprints now that I just unlocked them?

[normal orbit]

block signals make blocks on the tracks between them, allowing only one train inside them. While a path signal will reserve a path thru a block with multiple tracks and can allow multiple trains inside one block depending on design

[lost cloak]

make modular bits

[jagged nymph]

i have tons of blueprints that are like "8ConstructorManifold" where its.. well 8 constructors with a manifolded input/output and power poles connecting them. Makes it super easy to hook up big factories

[fluid sapphire]

If there's anything you find yourself building more than once, just make a blueprint

And I mean anything

[lost cloak]

like, you make 1 assembler, with splitter for each input, and a power poll connected to the assembler, and some foundations under it maybe if you want. Or skip foundations.

Then you build with that blueprint, and just connect belts and powerlines and you good

[lost cloak]

AAAAnything? hmm

[jagged nymph]

why only one assembler

do like 4 or 8

i mean i have a 20 constructor blueprint

[lost cloak]

however many you want, first blueprint is small tho

[jagged nymph]

why? wahts different about the first one

[lost cloak]

its small

[jagged nymph]

oh you mean the designer

yeah, but you can def fit like 2 or maybe 4 assemblers in there if you try

[lost cloak]

also its his first time using it. So keeping it simple is a good idea. He will immediately figure out he can put multiple builds in one design

[feral vector]

ok thanks for the tips

[lost cloak]

#screenshots ey show us what u made 🙂

[jagged nymph]

the hell is :peepo 😭

[lost cloak]

its an emoji but they dont allow emojis here...

[feral vector]

alright I'll try to remember lol, show off my newb stuff

[short meadow]

hey for some reason satifcaory crashes when using dx12 on my labtop but not my desktop, only thing i can think of is a nviida and linux issue as my desktop is amd

[sly vortex]

is there any way to make diagonal foundations?

[real shale]

#screenshots message More....

[jagged nymph]

project #PaveTheNature

[reef basin]

rotate it 45 degrees

[real shale]

I only have to rebuild my project tracker (ironic), my SAM and build a couple more factories

[jagged nymph]

you can use your mouse to rotate it 45 degrees or use the catwalk trick to line up the corner with another foundation

[real shale]

looking to automate magnetic field generators here

[jagged nymph]

youre gonna do 256.9234/minute right

[real shale]

No, only 15, the AI limiter cost is immense

[jagged nymph]

256.9234 is a better number

[real shale]

jumping my former 5 AI limiter/min factory to 60/min

and then gonna turn those into 15 electromagnetic control rods/min

[deft sluice]

Does anyone know if there's a website/link to a tutorial on how to set-up a save in 1.2?

[torn cairn]

what channel do I use if I need to report a member in the server who's scamming?

@austere ridge

[jagged nymph]

#open-a-ticket

[little timber]

Im about to hysterically cry

I just realised i built 80 refineries in the wrong way

Nvm i just gotta switch the pipes

Almost died

[sharp viper]

How do you play this game without getting immediately overwhelmed

[south sinew]

just take it one milestone or elevator phase at a time

[fluid sapphire]

Even that can be a pretty big task

You just learn to divide big problems into smaller ones

[real shale]

Choice paralysis is very common and as insane says, don't try to tackle the problem head on in it's entirety, break it down

Don't go "oh I want to make X/min of this" because there's likely about a bajillion different ways you could achieve that outcome, just focus on small portions of the problem at a time

[cunning glade]

It's introduces u pretty slow but u start off automating plates rods and concrete and then go what else do I need automated and go from there

[real shale]

There's a reason the games soundtrack has songs named after psychological phenomena relating to task management :P

[cunning glade]

And then u go explore for power and may find things u research

As a person who can get overwhelmed easily with alot in a game this game does an excellent job of not doing that till maybe phase 4

[real shale]

Phase 4 I feel weeds a lot of people out of the game due to the severe choice paralysis they come across

[jagged nymph]

no you dont just gotta change your password

[fluid sapphire]

Phase 4 is the game

[real shale]

GOD DAMN IT

Why would say "the game" like that

[fluid sapphire]

No reason

[real shale]

I lost the game now, damn

[fluid sapphire]

Join us down here with the rest of us

[cunning glade]

Prolly I aim for 780 belts hoverpack and blenders and rocket fuel stuff I can get that all going before even start production for it cuz I just get the parts around hard drives

[ornate saffron]

its not like what he is saying is strickly true. Only 90% true.

[cunning glade]

But after it def feels that way but once u sit down and look into it I don't think it's too bad

[real shale]

I am referencing "The Game", which is a mind game to not remember or think about the game

[jagged nymph]

FUCK YOU 😭

[cunning glade]

True

[real shale]

Hey don't blame me , insane said it the way they did

[jagged nymph]

he did didnt he

[unkempt blade]

New players mostly need to stop with the super projects and obsessing over perfection and just do things. People burn themselves out

[fluid sapphire]

I did you a favor, it was only a matter of time

[cunning glade]

Tho p4 may be the game early game is fun

[jagged nymph]

phase 5 is still early game tbh

[cunning glade]

Uhhh idk wym

[little timber]

I get you dude i get overwhelmed so easily, but ig you gotta plan things things well and slowly

[cunning glade]

I would never do such things

[real shale]

Oh wow that's another piece of advice I've totally ignored because I don't feel the burnout

[fluid sapphire]

How dare you, I will finish phase 4, even if it takes me another year and a half

[cunning glade]

I don't wanna build 88 coal gens for a starting PowerPlant tho with mk3 belts I may be able too do more

[jagged nymph]

wait till he learns about phase 5

[real shale]

advised not to rebuild factories
Rebuilds entire biome
Refuses to elaborate

[unkempt blade]

Yeah sandbox games don't need to be stressful and satisfactory is actually on the simpler end of logistics game if you don't stress over min/max and just do things you think will work and go with it

[fluid sapphire]

Actually phase 5 will be a total cakewalk with the homework I've been doing

[jagged nymph]

yeah i started dsp and oh boy... its much different than satisfactory (in good and bad ways)

[unkempt blade]

There's no way to lose, there's nothing you can't undo later. The penalty for trying things is just time

[real shale]

Finally after uhhhh

[jagged nymph]

"time is your most valuable asset"

[cunning glade]

I mean depends

[real shale]

700 hours I will have one phase 4 part automated

And it's the easiest one LOL

[fluid sapphire]

Ehh not really, I have almost all of it mapped out for myself, just a few gaps to fill, it's only a handful of mostly pretty small factories

[ornate saffron]

i just finished automating alum does that counts as one or two parts>?
"

or none as its not a phase part

[real shale]

None it's not a phase part

[mellow pewter]

I hate trying to set up trains to be efficient... I can never do that right.

[cunning glade]

I meant depends on what the player is doing I didn't realize u meant for u my b

[cunning glade]

Wym

[unkempt blade]

Yeah DSP and Factorio have a much different scale of logistics stuff from Satis. They're fun games but it's not all the same part of the factory game genre

[cunning glade]

Speaking of trains are roundabouts good?

[real shale]

Although for some reason my steam hours cannot agree upon a playtime

They bounce back and forth between two values

[ornate saffron]

To be honest phase 4 is the largest hurdle of the game. If you automate everything it makes phase 5 a breeze

[mellow pewter]

I can never calculate the parts per time they carry.

[fluid sapphire]

#satisfactory message

[jagged nymph]

yeah im just now noticing that satisfactory is more puzzle-like (if that makes sense) than those other games that really lean into the logistics

[ornate saffron]

The wiki has formulas to help (hoping you have yet to try that)

[cunning glade]

I have a neat tool for this I think

[fluid sapphire]

You need to supply enough to last the trip time, plus some extra for headroom

[cunning glade]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/6fezikbafu something like this maybe?

[jagged nymph]

add a buffer on each end, then if you dont have enough throughput, add another train car + station or another entire train on the same schedule

[cunning glade]

Also use buffers on both side

[jagged nymph]

if its still not enough repeat

[cunning glade]

I double too triple buffer cuz why not it looks nice

[mellow pewter]

I forgot to check the wiki. And thank you, INSANE and goodquestion. I'll fiddle with all those things.

[fluid sapphire]

Whatever supply you need * (minutes of total trip time + 1 minute total for loading unloading), then just have enough cars to carry that

[cunning glade]

Ye I use that too make sure I'm hitting rough limits

And not cutting it too close

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, headroom, provide extra

[cunning glade]

?

[fluid sapphire]

They have no benefit over normal intersections, AFAIK they are actually slightly worse at throughput

[cunning glade]

Ik they work in factorio but I'm not sure how they compare too intersections I think they're called

[jagged nymph]

ive seen people use them but i personally havent they do look good though

[cunning glade]

I see

I'm thinking with my random nodes playthrough I do dual tracks

And do 4 cuz I think Im gonna have a lot of smaller trains

[smoky forge]

ive used roundabouts and they are nearly the same as normal t sections

[fluid sapphire]

People make all sorts of wild intersection designs

[smoky forge]

with the upside that the trains can use them as u turns

[cunning glade]

Truth

[mellow pewter]

Gaming with Doc's method for single track two way trains still works, right?

[cunning glade]

I would assume so

[fluid sapphire]

In practice, simple one level dual track intersections work just fine for 99,9% of cases

[cunning glade]

But id have too know the video exactly

[jagged nymph]

why cant we send save files but we can send other types of files

[mellow pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3m0D8bt3ac

[sly vortex]

do truck stations use power when doing nothing

[sick falcon]

am i subhuman and undeserving of love if i make the phase 5 elevator parts in temporary quickly thrown together factories fed by crates instead of full assembly lines

[cunning glade]

Wym

[cunning glade]

Oh u meant that yes that'll work

[south sinew]

Personally I think the two are unrelated, but some would say they are related

[cunning glade]

I just realized I could use like 40k copper for pasta

And still have over 10k left too spare

[sharp viper]

whats the hotkey for the notepad

[deft sluice]

Any suggestions for some fun new settings for a new playthrough?

thnk i'm gonna do random nodes, not sure if i turn up the power/recipes ratios

[cunning glade]

Random nodes more parts for ele and increased power requirements or scaling

[sharp viper]

all impure nodes

[ornate saffron]

force decoration befroe unlocking new tiers

[cunning glade]

Def the requirements for space ele

[deft sluice]

i think i'll do 5x on ele then

[cunning glade]

I dislike part scaling imo

[deft sluice]

i think i'll keep parts as is though

although parts is going to make so many of the factory layouts i have break completely eh

i'll do 2x power, 5x elevator, random nodes

[real shale]

No foundations allowed :P

[wise junco]

GROSS

[deft sluice]

calm down satan

[real shale]

D:

[deft sluice]

I think with these settings i gotta start in the desert then

[wise junco]

take it back

[deft sluice]

or maybe forest

[real shale]

D:

[cunning glade]

Rocky peak

[real shale]

GRASSY FIELDS

[cunning glade]

Dessert I dislike not a fun start

[wise junco]

would frame foundations/frame floors count?

[cunning glade]

Just in general

[real shale]

yes

[wise junco]

😠

[deft sluice]

Grassy fields is gonna be horror with impure nodes

[cunning glade]

If u did random they could be pure

[real shale]

Yeah

[cunning glade]

It'll be random if they're pure or not

[real shale]

You could also get URANIUM there

[deft sluice]

I thought random just changed the location, not the quality

[cunning glade]

I did mostly pure cuz I like mega build's

[cunning glade]

Nope

[deft sluice]

Well

[cunning glade]

And base map is too limiting with resources

All the fun ones atleast

[deft sluice]

can't wait to see uranium and bauxite at grassy fields

[wise junco]

imagine - random nodes... they're all just uranium

[fluid sapphire]

Instant soft lock

[cunning glade]

I got oil at the rocky desert Start

[little timber]

Guys i need help with plumbing

[wise junco]

call roto rooter

[deft sluice]

2 coal and 2 iron at grassy fields, this is better then the original lol

[real shale]

#1038092680493801533 and lots of photos of your pipe work

[cunning glade]

#1038092680493801533 if a complex fluid issue

[little timber]

Okay

[cunning glade]

Can u change world settings after you've made a world

Like the space ele requirements

I low-key wanna raise them some more

Tho I'm not home so idk if I can

And same with power

[fluid sapphire]

Assuming not

[cunning glade]

Same

[deft sluice]

crude oil at grassy fields, with coal and iron. I have ideas already..

[sly herald]

i got the game friday! i alr have 4 hrs its pretty peak. im stuck on the second space thing

im playing with a friend and we started at teh second spawn pos we found 2 pure iron nodes what is the correct ratio rn we have 3 smelters per

[deft sluice]

Depends on the level of your miner, you can check the miner to see how much it outputs

smelters take 30 iron per, so w/e your miner is outputting divided by 30 will tell you how many smelters you need

[lost belfry]

with mk1 miners and mk2 belts it would be 120/min if im not mistaken so it would be 4 smelters.

you can always see what the in and outputs for each machine are and then you can calculate from there

[distant pilot]

Also, if you press N you can open a search bar that doubles as a calculator so you can calculate stuff like that in-game

[cunning glade]

Ik random nodes is so cool

I'm excited too get too use alts I don't really get too

[distant pilot]

For now I’m still doing a map with the normal nodes and purities

[deft sluice]

sam node found hehe

unfortunately there's not a single copper within 800 meters of grassy fields start

[dense spruce]

sup guys just finished phase 3 in 52 hours! my fastest time ever but is that fast or am i trippin?

[primal thicket]

withe which tier i get the jetpack wehere i can permanatly fly ?

[deft sluice]

you mean which fuel? Probably turbofuel or rocketfuel to properly fly

[primal thicket]

no this jetpack wher you can fly in creative

[real shale]

huh okay so im getting a lot more control rods than i thought originally

might actually be able to do 60 Magnetic field generators/min

[deft sluice]

the jetpack is in stage 3 (i think?)

oh you mean the hover

[primal thicket]

yes

[deft sluice]

tier 7

[real shale]

oh nvm, i forgot the modular frames

[primal thicket]

thank you

[deft sluice]

man it's been like 6 months since i've played, the controls are all mixed up in my head from other games xD

[sly herald]

i cant find any for SAM where can you find them

[deft sluice]

normal settings? What biome are you at

[sly herald]

first playthrough and we stated on teh sedond spawn

[deft sluice]

i forget where the second spawn is lol

the rocky beach up north?

[sly herald]

lemme check name

rocky desert

[deft sluice]

So it depends on which spawn you got, there's a few spawns up there

the closest sam node to you is at crater lake though

[sly herald]

and where is the best spor for coal genoraters

[deft sluice]

Crater lake has tons of coal and a sam node

[wise junco]

wherever you can get coal and water... that sounds smartassish, but seriously, any spot is a good spot if you get the resources

[deft sluice]

it's east (and up) from where you started

[sly herald]

kki i will chcek that out

[minor cedar]

guys how do i get the turbo fuel alt recipe

do i just scan hds repeatedely until i get it

[wise junco]

correct

[deft sluice]

yeah

[deft sluice]

But you can only get alt recipes if you've unlocked the base recipe, so make sure you're at the right tier for it

[minor cedar]

omg i scanned like 6 atp and didnt get it

[deft sluice]

also when you're scanning hds, don't claim any of the recipes, by just keeping them available you block them from showing up on future scans

[minor cedar]

yeah i have it unlocked tryna make a power plant with it and cannot get the heavy turbo fuel recipe

[minor cedar]

yeah i havent claimed any i m just rescanning them

[digital basalt]

Sorry that was a experimental question lol how is everyones day going at the factory?

[deft sluice]

but yeah, fill up a jetpack and start exploring

[high stag]

Is it normal that i purchase something form the awesome store and dont get the stuff?
I bought the radio controle unit but lost the points and got no unit

[digital basalt]

No normally i get everything i buy

[deft sluice]

its in the other tab

on the awsome store

[high stag]

the items

where the screws and plates also are

i loaded an auto save to buy it again and in hapend again,

[past spoke]

was talking about 1.2 but thank you so much 💗

[deft sluice]

are you moving to the tab in the awesome shop machine that holds the items you buy?

the items dont appear in your inventory, they're in the machines inventory

[high stag]

let me check because normally the tab appears by itself

Yeah it works

thanks

[heavy oxide]

I'm unlocking the nukes very soon

[deft sluice]

3 sam nodes at my spawn, looks like i'm gonna get to use thos convrsion recipes

[plain marten]

how do you rotate blueprints

without 90 degree turns

[little timber]

72GW

[pallid gazelle]

Someone can help me?

I'm new here and I don't really know how to build a factory.

[west jackal]

What is max throuput per car of train? I was thinking the safest would be just do 1200/min (i don't have mk6 yet so 1560 is limited atm) but should I say something like 10% of max station IO?

What about for fluids/gasses?

[pallid gazelle]

You can help me? PLS🥹

[wise junco]

whats your question?

[pallid gazelle]

I just don't know how to organize my factory

[compact knot]

@pallid gazelle https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxpToD1Are7hyEOv6JmnIi2n7I3ig28LH

[wise junco]

not being stupid, you'll get a thousand different answers

[compact knot]

watch that

[pallid gazelle]

i alr have iron, copper, iron plates and the yellow things working, but is a disaster

[compact knot]

watch tat series it'll teach you the game

[delicate surge]

Is there a way to remove the empty space from a blueprint on multiplayer? I know you can do it in singleplayer by changing the actual save file but if its in multiplayer am i just cooked?

[fluid sapphire]

I find it's easier to just overshoot with the amount of freight cars and not worry about the theoretical max of one car

[broken vigil]

just build and make mistakes but make sure to learn from them

[pallid gazelle]

im not learning rlly

can i send you a picture of my factory?

[broken vigil]

i dont have a picture rn and im not gona launch the game just to take a picture

[pallid gazelle]

nono. ME i send you a picture of my factory

[compact knot]

i remember whe ni 1st started plaYING SATISFACTORY, I DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE HELL I WAS DOING. THEN I WATCHED CONTENT CREATORS LIKE TOTAL AND BLITZ AND NOW IM A PRO LOL

sry for caps

[next ivy]

empty spaace ?

[broken vigil]

yeah you do learn A LOT FROM JUST WATCHING PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME

[wise junco]

i agree making mistAKES IS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN

[next ivy]

or by just playing yourself

[fluid sapphire]

You can learn on your own too

[west jackal]

Not too concerned about theoretical max. I want to move thousands of nitrogen/ min, so I NEED to know if each fluid car can do 600; 900, 1100?

[compact knot]

if your new to factory gamess then youll need help

[broken vigil]

@pallid gazelle it dosent realy matter if youre bad att the game ass long as youre having fun

[delicate surge]

yeah i build it 8 metres above the actual floor level of the blueprint designer so i could access it from below but that space is now included when i want to place it. severely annoying

[compact knot]

just watch that series its for beginners

[pallid gazelle]

It's stressful for me to see my factory so disorganized and ugly.

[broken vigil]

do you build everything on foundations?

[next ivy]

place the hblueprint in the planner, then nudge it down, and save over the old one `?

[pallid gazelle]

vYes

[fluid sapphire]

I think that depends on how much time is spent loading and unloading relative to your trip time, but I reckon 900 shouldn't be too hard to achieve? I haven't tried transporting gases myself

[broken vigil]

okay cuse otherwise that would be an easy fix

[stuck ice]

If you're used to running logistics then the game will be easier to get into I've noticed.

[broken vigil]

but id say just leav a lot of space for walkways and dont look att the mesy stuff lol

[compact knot]

it will get better over time, from noob to pro just play and see how the mechanics work and youll get better. Ask if you have questions

[fluid sapphire]

You can make a post on #1038092680493801533 too and ask specific questions, post screenshots and all that, all in a single spot

The main channel isn't great for stuff that requires images

[compact knot]

i remember when i had only a few hours and boy was tha tstart a mess, now i have over1500+ hours hehe

[feral jay]

Probably because there are no images in the main channel lol

[west jackal]

Also need crude. Was just curious

[delicate surge]

doesnt work since the space is counted as part of the blueprint so when i place it and the space is partly outside of the designer it literally just doesnt register it as in the blueprint designer

absolutely needed qol

[fluid sapphire]

Well, there's always darting back and forth between here and #screenshots, that's primarily what I am getting at

[unkempt blade]

we have to convey our message with pictograms instead like >

[west jackal]

Ew

[feral jay]

ohh, usually #math-and-meta or #design-and-architecture are good for that kinda stuff, or #1038092680493801533 if it's more involved

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, for sure, really depends on what's up exactly

[leaden turret]

found your earrings

👂👁️ 👃👁️ 👂
⬛ 👄⬛

[warm remnant]

how do u harvest water, i mean one like oil (Depostits) i know of water extractor

[pallid umbra]

put a water pump in a place with water

[plain marten]

how do you rotate blueprints

[warm remnant]

i dont mean lake/river/ocean.
i mean something like oil deposit

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Resource_Extractor

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Resource_Extractor

[leaden turret]

whoops

!wikisearch Resource_Well_Pressurizer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Resource_Well_Pressurizer

[cosmic apex]

why does it keep deleting my messages in #1038092680493801533 and #dedicated-servers

[warm remnant]

oh its very late game

[leaden turret]

new account maybe? 🤷‍♂️

[pallid umbra]

oh well its way after the water extractor lol , Marv did it first too lol

[feral jay]

I'm back up to 100% machine utilization #screenshots message

[cosmic apex]

well i need help with my dedicated server, how am i supposed to get help 😭

[leaden turret]

might also be if you're posting links to sites that aren't on the allow list

[cosmic apex]

that may be it

ill try without the link

[solar loom]

Anyone has a good setup for Fuel generators and Crude oil stuff (making fuel, plastic, rubber, etc.)?

[unkempt blade]

sorry I only have bad setups for it, you'll have to make your own

[real shale]

holy i am having a lot of fun rebuilding my grassy fields

[ancient ravine]

Is using pipes at 100% capacity (if you have several machines feeding in and therefore required junctions) just literally impossible or am I missing something here
I have a pipe that should be capable of feeding 600 heavy oil residue and the refineries are full the pipe just doesn't want it and they back up with the pipe only transporting like 500 and some even tho it goes literally down in elevation

[solar loom]

Bad setups are good too

[solar loom]

use valves

[hollow holly]

Might need screenshot of ur pipe setup

[ancient ravine]

its a pretty basic manifold but yeah one second

[unkempt blade]

oh ok, well in that case the important part is that each refinery gets its own truck stop + unpackager so you can use a factory cart route to deliver crude oil to it

[solar loom]

Isn't just getting crude from a pipeline better?

[unkempt blade]

nope, it uses way fewer vehicles

[ancient ravine]

oh you can't do images in this channel? Will send you Dm

[hollow holly]

I mean you can always put it in #screenshots

[ancient ravine]

right that exists

#screenshots message

[hollow holly]

Ok so uh first of all are you using floor hole ? Those tend to be a bith messy sometime

[ancient ravine]

Not in this example

just pipes and junctions

[unkempt blade]

loop the end of the manifold back to the start and let it fill up then try again

[hollow holly]

You could try loping it

[hollow holly]

Basicly what he said

[ancient ravine]

I mean it was completely full to begin with but I suppose I can try to loop yeah

[unkempt blade]

you don't always need to do that with smaller setups but with a big row like that it usually helps

[ancient ravine]

it still doesn't transport it at a stable 600 with a loop but its a lot closer

[sick falcon]

all the resources on the map can only make 73 ballistic warp drives a minute damn

how do i fix the all milestones achievement locked glitch

[unkempt blade]

I don't actually know the answer so I'll suggest building a factory cart skate park

[leaden turret]

I think it's start new game, save, load old game? buuuut I may be misremembering that.

[unkempt blade]

that seems like a lot of steps, they should probably just leave it as "start a new game"

[leaden turret]

I have a hazy recollection of them saying the achievement checking code checks the save on load

ahah! found it

[leaden turret]

December 9th, 2025
Achievements (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny7TY7EZjv4&t=1350

If the achievement has not popped retroactively for you now, make a new save, complete any milestone, and the game should scan for milestones completed across all saves, and that should unlock it retroactively.

Bit of a weird band-aid, but at least it works.

You don't have to, like, make a new save and get to tier 9 again.

That would be crazy.

[sick falcon]

word thx

[unkempt blade]

you're welcome, factory cart skateparks fix everything

[sick falcon]

🙏

[leaden turret]

factory cart skateparks can't unscramble an egg 😛

[unkempt blade]

the key is to make a bowl to drive around in really fast so you get the centrifugal force really high and the scrambled egg re-separates

[haughty flume]

what channel would i be able to share a song i made in?

[unkempt blade]

#off-topic-media maybe?

[haughty flume]

ok

[real shale]

#screenshots message Wish i could have cinematic light rendering distance (even if it'll destroy my PC) but the square is complete, now for the factories

[sick falcon]

didnt work

is completing phase 5 considered a milestone or something?

[pine lark]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-starkiller-base-the-force-awakens-gif-10293145908921818038

[leaden turret]

🤷‍♂️ if in doubt, check #1038092680493801533 for similar issues ?

[sterile blade]

Have you increased the rendering distance to the max already? (Via console commands)

[real shale]

you can increase it via console command?

[sterile blade]

Aye, there's a few improvements aviable with those ^^

[sterile blade]

Check these out (there should be something about light rendering distance too): https://github.com/Lightning999933/Satisfactory-Graphical-tweaks/releases/tag/v0.5.6.1

These are for the "base" version of the game though, there's a different set for Experimental

[real shale]

i see

[sharp shore]

hi

[sleek halo]

Guys does the factory must grow?

[next meadow]

What is the hex number used for the gold on the Golden FICSIT Helmet?

[pure condor]

are steel screws better than normal screws

[sleek halo]

Theyre screws..

[tall lantern]

no alt is strictly better than another

[reef basin]

you cannot compare two recipes like that

[pure condor]

oh my bad 😭

[sleek halo]

Yh it depends on what ore u have the most to use

[tall lantern]

look at the tradeoffs. do you want to add coal to get more screws per iron?

[sick falcon]

is completionist.me down for anyone else

[tropic ridge]

i mean i wanna play some satisfactory

[deft sluice]

whats stopping you?

[tropic ridge]

with others alone is boring

[reef basin]

use #1201555265942724758 then

[deft sluice]

I didn't enjoy my attempts at playing with a group lol

I can maybe play an hour a day, by the time i logged in the early game was gone

[tropic ridge]

what time zone u at??

[sick falcon]

figured it out, thank you ❤️

[cunning glade]

This is why I don't do servers and I just bought the game for my friend

[meager fern]

thats why i play by myself. i dont like leaving other people behind, but either people cant play as often as i like, or the times we can play just dont match up

the last time i tried playing with some people we went a month with making plans, and people saying they couldnt make it for one reason or another

[deft sluice]

Did they add bunnyhopping to satisfactory in 1.1/1.2? I swear i don't remember picking up so much speed

[zenith helm]

do i help the devs by letting them know i found a resource node that is clipping inot the ground? and how do i do that?

[wild phoenix]

Always there

[feral vector]

ok trucks seem kinda awesome

[sick falcon]

do i play factorio, space engineers, planet crafter, or star rupture now that im done with satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

all of them at the same time

[next ivy]

DSP

👍

[reef basin]

well "always" = at 1.0, not before (iirc, maybe it was 0.8 or something that added it)

[unkempt blade]

minesweeper set to full screen

[rustic estuary]

now that we're not in early access, will my 1.1 save work when version 1.2 comes out???

[white dawn]

Also AFAIK they didn't "add bunnyhopping" so much as an Unreal Engine upgrade just happened to make it possible

I don't think it was an intentional addition to the game

[white dawn]

Yes

Though your question is implying something that's not true -- you can literally still load the game using a save from the very first public EA versions of the game

[rustic estuary]

i thought they always said old saves wont work, must have misremembered lol

but thank you!

[white dawn]

Granted, over time recipe changes, machine changes, map changes and such would mean that any factory in such an old savegame wouldn't actually be functional anymore, but savegames have always been usable on new versions, all throughout EA (and now beyond)

[white dawn]

Might've misheard the advice about backing up your saves if you try Experimental -- if you save a game (or a blueprint) in experimental and then try to load it back into the public version (prior to v1.2 being merged in), that wouldn't work

[rustic estuary]

ahhhhh

that was probably it cause i was playing experimental a long time ago

[feral vector]

if I build a truck station along an existing truck route will the truck pick stuff up from it?

I'm not on 1.2 if that matters

[warm finch]

you have re-record the route

[feral vector]

ok thank you

[white dawn]

Vehicles will dock at any station they pass close enough to. If you've built your stations right on a "road" then yeah, you'll probably have dockings you might not want

I know others have said that they'd had luck deleting the yellow pause nodes, to prevent a vehicle from stopping at a station, but that never seemed to work for me

Generally best to have the stations off to the side so that only vehicles you intend to stop can even run into 'em, IMO.

[floral sparrow]

Would people say that playing with friends in this game is really fun?

[feral vector]

there is a copper node and a limestone node along this coal route I set up, I was gonna try collecting them all

[white dawn]

You can assign more than one vehicle to the exact same route, without having to re-record a route, btw

[feral vector]

3 things might overload the truck though idk lol

and I have to figure out how to split it at my factory

[white dawn]

Well, keep an eye on the vehicle's cargo capacity, etc. And make sure you've got Smart Splitters unlocked to handle the sushi deliveries (sushi == more than one resource headed onto the same belts)

[unkempt blade]

I normally build a block of foundations off the side for my truck stations instead of making them overhanging the road. They don't have to be too far from the route to not get incidental vehicles hitting them

[white dawn]

You can always add more vehicles to an existing route, so technically if one vehicle couldn't do it, then 2+ might

Though personally for transporting raw ores like that, I'd just have a dedicated route per resource

[reef basin]

only as long as your friends share your vision perfectly

||so, no, not fun||

[white dawn]

The throughputs you typically want for raw ore don't often lend themselves well to sushi

[unkempt blade]

You can always add more vehicles to a route but each truck stop is only ever going to have the 2 conveyors so that's usually the actual throughput bottleneck

[feral vector]

hmm okay

[warm finch]

best to move the product made locally than the raw ore.

[empty spoke]

bruh do i rly need to use mk5 conveyor lifts cuz the aesthetic in mk6 is missing?

[unkempt blade]

especially with early mk belts trucks/tractors/etc can basically always outperform the belt speed

[feral vector]

belts should be 540 out with 2x mk3, I'm only inputting 240 coal right now (pure and mk2 miner), shouldn't be that hard to add 60 copper and 60 limestone? or am I getting confused

[unkempt blade]

should be finer, you'll just need smart splitters doing sorting on both output conveyors

[floral sparrow]

My friend leans more into architecture and I lean more into engineering, so I think it could be fun to see how our visions mesh together

[feral vector]

ah right I gotta unlock those

there's too many different things I wanna automate lol I feel like rushing to finish phase 2 is a bad idea

like for the versatile framework I don't even have it automated, I just dumped a shitload of modular frames in a storage container cause I had extra from before lol, I'm just making the steel beams in that production chain

[unkempt blade]

Yeah it's not a race. I'd just play at whatever speed is fun for you

[cyan mesa]

is it safe to start a new save on experimental?

[pallid umbra]

why wouldnt it ?

[cyan mesa]

idk, there could be some glitches and problems when 1.2 goes out from experimental

[pallid umbra]

well making a new save keep those glitch from killing your old saves

and no the glitch isnt gonna kill your computer

XDDDDDD

[cyan mesa]

alright

[unkempt blade]

I'd assume it's safe if you never want to play pre-1.2

[cyan mesa]

yeah i dont want to

[supple canopy]

I have a fully functionnal save dating from update 0.3

you should be good

[warm finch]

as long as you and your friend are flexible, can negotiate, have good social skills, and can compromise, it can be a lot of fun. I personally enjoy playing with someone more than solo.

[sly herald]

it also makes it easier to spread out the work from my small experience

[warm finch]

yup very true as well

also makes it much easier to decide to do mega projects that suck you in for DAYS at a time lmao

[jagged nymph]

we arent allowed to send satisfactory save files but we are allowed to send other types of files

[warm finch]

nah not a bad idea. but automating everything how you want it can be a real challenge. Best to automate what you need, not what you want, until you unlock higher infrastructure stuff

[cunning glade]

Like rule wise or it auto deletes them?

[jagged nymph]

rule wise

[floral sparrow]

Yeah, we're best pals and we don't take anything seriously when we're playing together so it'll be funny even if we screw up I imagine

[cunning glade]

Ah

[warm finch]

it's fun when your playmate screws up and you get to make fun of them for it. Like what @west jackal does to me all the time

[west jackal]

HEY!

i mean... true.

but HEY!

[hazy void]

has anyone here played satisfactory plus (mod) and if so is there a way to make it not crash in multiplayer

[undone citrus]

The factory just grow

I'm going my part, putting kids to work

[native tapir]

You could make a race in this game I bet

[native tapir]

It doesn't support multiplayer currently. But you can go to the modding discord for more info on that

[warm finch]

you'll need to troubleshoot that via the modding discord.

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @warm finch

[unkempt blade]

that's madness, what would it even be some sort of enormous tower/obstacle course?

[native tapir]

I'm not sure that would make sense in a factory game

[jagged nymph]

boy have i got news for you....

did you not watch the 1.2 stream?

[native tapir]

No why

Let me guess is some idiot trying to race explorers

It'll never work

[jagged nymph]

its official and theres like 70 people working on it

[warm finch]

Transition from foot race to jetpack to tractor to truck to explorer to hypertube to zipline to elevator. could be done!

[jagged nymph]

so not "some idiot"

[warm finch]

I'd totally play that

[jagged nymph]

and yes its a race around the map with explorers

[unkempt blade]

Some sort of huge tower would be an act of hubris that would anger the all-knowing and all-powerful voice in our head. She'd definitely smite us somehow so we can't reach the top

[native tapir]

Oh he's an idiot trust me 😉

[jagged nymph]

through a bunch of really sick builds

[warm finch]

you're one of the 70 people working on it lol

[jagged nymph]

is he??

Lol

[native tapir]

I may or may not be the person who runs it. It is possible it's my discord group.

Can confirm. Am idiot

[jagged nymph]

lmao

[unkempt blade]

that would be quite the octathlon!

[jagged nymph]

DONT FORGET THE KETO FRIENDLY ONE

[warm finch]

screw keto

[jagged nymph]

read the name of the guy 3 messages up

[unkempt blade]

drones have lots of carbs if you prefer a different diet 🙂

[native tapir]

Well you're welcome to join. PC players only unfortunately because it uses anti cheat mods etc.

And is multiplayer

[jagged nymph]

when is it happensing

[warm finch]

hence the pun/joke/jab at the screw lover

[native tapir]

We are building right now. Full map. 75 people currently working on it. Probably 100+ by the time we're done. But race is this summer. Likely July or August. Depends how progress goes on everything. Lot of backend technical stuff to work out

[jagged nymph]

nice

from what i saw in the stream its lookin great

[hollow ravine]

why is this sam node so shit, its impure and in the worst location possible #screenshots message

[warm finch]

I remember you talking about it before but didn't know you actually started doing it. SICK. can't wait to see it. Then after that do an octathlon using all methods of transport?

[unkempt blade]

it's that way to spite you in particular

[jagged nymph]

YEP THATS SAM FOR YA

[warm finch]

because its literally in the grass plains starting area.

[hollow ravine]

ur wrong

[jagged nymph]

no that ones in the desert of dunes

[hollow ravine]

its in the desert

[deft sluice]

thats in the desert

[west jackal]

yea thats the desert one

Deaf didnt you go there for refined sam for flucs?

[unkempt blade]

I don't like the dune desert. It's too lumpy

[jagged nymph]

I ALSO SONT LIKE THE DUNE DESERT

THE ROCKY DESERT IS MUCH BETTER TBH

[native tapir]

#screenshots message

So far (shots from different biomes, different builders)

[west jackal]

yo people better start posting race tracks

[feral jay]

Damn

[west jackal]

id be down to beat DeafBringer so bad in a race he finally got back to work on the new CB factory

[native tapir]

This one will be sick. We had 500+ racers last year. $2k in prizes. This year is double in every way so far. Double builders and everything

It's already way way bigger lol.

[west jackal]

woah what

[unkempt blade]

will there be turtle shells and banana peels?

[west jackal]

i need to start practicing my explorer driving huh?

[native tapir]

I wish

[native tapir]

You can. But we are using the slooped up explorer mod that was made by Ryan for the event.

Double speed, shifts gears, hydraulics. Haha

[jagged nymph]

WE NEED A MOD FOR THAT SO ITS LIKE MARIO KART I THINK THAT WOULD BE COOL

[west jackal]

WOAH

[native tapir]

Practice in that one.

[west jackal]

got it! Are there maps online for racing that you know of?

[lost reef]

why doesnt my docking station dock anything it wont load or unload ive tried almost anything any suggestions

[west jackal]

is it on natural roads or mostly pathed, or both?

[jagged nymph]

YEAH YOU CAN GET SOME HELP IN #1038092680493801533 THERE ARE SOME REALLY HELPFUL PEOPLE THERE

[west jackal]

time tables setup right? stations powered? set to load/unload? train with freight cars?

[lost reef]

im at phase 2 rn so im still working on starting with coal

[west jackal]

got it, docking meant tractor

do you have the cars docking in their pathing?

[lost reef]

yeah!

[lost reef]

i tried to dock while recording but it wont work for some odd reason

[west jackal]

is the station powered?

[lost reef]

it is

ive been stuck with this for like 30 minutes

[jagged nymph]

IS THE ROUTE WORKING AND IT JUST WONT DOCK? OR DO YOU EVEN HAVE THE ROUTE RECORDED

[west jackal]

do you have the route turned on not just recorded?

[jagged nymph]

YEAH THAT TOO

[lost reef]

i have the rout recorded and everytime i tried to dock it wouldnt do anything

[normal orbit]

you dont need to dock when recording

[lost reef]

yeah i loaded it in

[warm finch]

sir... if only you'd boot up the save.... oh and btw, former mario cart master. you'll get pwned.

[normal orbit]

just pause long enough for it to record a pause node

[west jackal]

id whoop in you mkw

[jagged nymph]

MAKE A POST IN #1038092680493801533 WITH SCREENSHOTS/VIDEOS

[warm finch]

wait this isn't just for fun? holy hell. I'd race it just for fun

[next ivy]

you can turn a normal node into a pause node too i think

[west jackal]

maybe not mk64, im not old enough for that

[lost reef]

i did that but ima remake it ill get back to you guys

[west jackal]

me too.

[unkempt blade]

Oh yeah? Well I'd drive off the road way more elegantly than you would!

[west jackal]

sounds about right haha

[warm finch]

Try super nintendo... lol.

[jagged nymph]

MK64?? HOLY GUACAMOLE THATS A FAST BELT

[warm finch]

32 bit graphics comin at you

[native tapir]

Nah we did a factory cart tower climb last year. Was insane. This year round the map explorer race. Gonna be more insane. Lots of prizes and fun. Devs have been fantastic in supporting it. Don't tell them I said this but they're a great studio

[warm finch]

mk64 refers to mariokart 64 (nintendo 64)

[unkempt blade]

I didn't own a console between the 64 and the switch1. The mario kart transition was pretty huge 😆

[jagged nymph]

A MK64 KART? MUST BE PRETTY QUICK

[warm finch]

mariokart world is definitely a transition... I still schooled my son when he was 14 and thought he could take on both my wife and I. he was dead wrong. and dead last lmao. He played 3 races, refused to play it ever again after that

[west jackal]

my first nintendo was the wii, didnt have mk, got mk7 on DS and have played since then

[west jackal]

you mean mk8? mkw just came out

[warm finch]

yeah my bad

[jagged nymph]

there we go i got my caps lock key to work

[warm finch]

making the leap from mk64 to mariokart on the switch was definitely a transition.

some tricks just don't die though

[west jackal]

thought so 😤

[cedar iris]

off topic much

[queen warren]

Does anyone have a good coal power plant tutorial?

[jagged nymph]

UM guys i THINK you should go to #off-topic-general #off-topic-general #off-topic-general

[cedar iris]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/556448894993563659

[jagged nymph]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[warm finch]

shush you, before I beat you in mariokart

[west jackal]

you heard them, go to off topi

[warm finch]

er I mean satisfactory racing

[cedar iris]

I don't even play that

[cunning glade]

I still wanna do 88 coal gens

[jagged nymph]

pioneerkart

[cunning glade]

Tho that's 6.6gw in coal power

[jagged nymph]

factorykart

ficskart

[warm finch]

why 88? 80 is a good number

[cunning glade]

I feel like it's slightly overkill but also I do need 2k versatile framework

[cunning glade]

Cuz when building power I try too use all of the nodes near by

88 is what I got with MK2 belts

But with mk3 I could do more

[warm finch]

gross. don't do it with mk2

[cunning glade]

Feel like it may be overkill

[warm finch]

do it with mk4 when you unlock it

[west jackal]

i think i did 80 on my last play

[jagged nymph]

wait till mk6 tbh

[cunning glade]

Mk4 isn't until next tier hello?

[warm finch]

nah, just go nitro rocket fuel/nuclear at that point lol

[west jackal]

mk4 is unlocked with advanced steel, its only t4

[cunning glade]

U want me too biomass for 2k smart plating and framework

[warm finch]

yeah, so? small scale coal gen plant until you get mk4 belts

[west jackal]

its the same phase as t3 belts isnt it?

[queen warren]

But that’s satisfactory related…

[west jackal]

oh im stupid

[cunning glade]

I get mk3 belts next no?

Cuz I only have mk1 and 2 rn

[jagged nymph]

nah it goes mk1 mk2 mk4 mk3 mk5 mk6

[cunning glade]

But by mk4 belts it's oil time

[warm finch]

I did 7k mw (hahah made you look) on biomass burners for a while. easy to do

[jagged nymph]

mk3 and 4 are swapped

[cunning glade]

Ah my bad thx for letting me know man

[jagged nymph]

yepppp (pronounced ye-puh-puh-puh-puh)

[warm finch]

still won't be ready for fuel gen power at scale with mk4 belts

[cunning glade]

I mean sure but I could also do coal now till oil and then oil last till rocketfuel

[west jackal]

whu?

[cunning glade]

Yeah what

[west jackal]

i did a 60GW fuel plant on my last save with mk4 belts

[cunning glade]

Same

[west jackal]

and i didnt make my life easy and do 1:1

[cunning glade]

That lasted till rf

[jagged nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[west jackal]

i did 6 packagers per belt lol

[warm finch]

absolute pain lmao

[west jackal]

thats why i did 1:1 this time

[cunning glade]

I'm def doing small scale rubber and plastic till blenders tho

[sturdy tartan]

do yall know any other good planners aside from satisfactory calc and interactive map? im tryna do this factory by hand without calculating

[warm finch]

I mean, you CAN do that. just a lot of time spent for little gain

[west jackal]

just 2 blueprints to place per 30 crude, each 2 blueprints make 1GW

[cunning glade]

Cuz fuck doing 3600 plastic with a loop

[warm finch]

satisfactory tools, all the way

[lost cloak]

i do wish satisfactory reworked space elevator parts.

Sure you have the parts multiplier now, but thats a bad solution to an underlying problem.

The simplest way right now to deal with space parts, is to just set up a very small factory, that only makes the space parts themselves. And you feed the inputs with the required resources, and sloop it and clock it to make it cheaper and faster, and you let that small factory cook for a couple minutes.

Instead, if they made it such that each tier of space parts required mainly older tier space parts, such that you had an insentive to actually make a space elevator part factory, and expand on it for each tier. Instead of what i find easiest now, to just build a tiny shack, and dismantle it when the space parts are done.

[west jackal]

just need to connect 2 pipes after placing (and bring in crude/water)

[cunning glade]

What

[west jackal]

there are mods that require constant feeding, some people hoped they would add this as a game mode to 1.2, but ist a mod i will be using next playthrough

[sturdy tartan]

sorry, i mean aside from satisfactory tools and interactive map

[lost cloak]

mods should never be a solution

[cunning glade]

False

[lost cloak]

no

[cunning glade]

And base game is fine for a first playthrough

[west jackal]

i mean. the mod fixes a problem YOU have, not the entire community?

i agree, it would be nice if they added that as a game mode

[warm finch]

I mean, the incentive is already there IS to automate space elevator parts. Not sure what the problem is

[west jackal]

or reworked space elevator part.

[lost cloak]

mods should never be a solution to a problem, fine you use them to alter the experience or add layers to it, but it should not solve a problem

[cunning glade]

False

[west jackal]

there IS NO problem.

[sturdy tartan]

i need somthing that i can use to manually jot down notes and have machine info

[west jackal]

just how YOU play the game,

[cunning glade]

Mods are a perfect solution too problems

[lost cloak]

the space elevator parts system is pointless, even for a first time playthough

[warm finch]

satisfactory tools allow you to have machine info. As for notes, you'll probably want to do a notebook or spreadsheet

[cunning glade]

Cuz the game is made how the devs want and intend for it too be played

[west jackal]

no. you are just wrong lol

[cunning glade]

Not just for u

[warm finch]

Not even close to being accurate. are you trolling?

[sturdy tartan]

ok

[cunning glade]

Everyone has different preferences

That's where mods come into play

[jagged nymph]

no i dont have different preferences'

i have same preferences

[warm finch]

keep in mind, satisfactory tools and scim (interactive map) are two different things.

[cunning glade]

As everyone else?

[austere niche]

I gotta ask, can't you "zoop" smelters etc? is it only foundations?`

[jagged nymph]

no, i just dont have different preferences

[warm finch]

you annot zoop structures. that is what BP are for

[jagged nymph]

only a small amount of things like foundations, signs, and uhhh

[cunning glade]

It's like Minecraft

Minecraft itself is an amazing game

[austere niche]

Ty

[lost cloak]

ok so people like the space elevator part system as it is now, crazy. Thats wild, absolutely crazy. Best way to deal with it is to make temporary shitshacks and leave it running for a few min, then dismantle them

[cunning glade]

But Minecraft with mods is even better

[cunning glade]

What?

[jagged nymph]

uhh not when you need the old space elevator parts to make the new ones

[cunning glade]

It isn't tho?

[lost cloak]

you still do

[jagged nymph]

??

[grizzled shard]

???

[jagged nymph]

you need to keep the old parts automated to make the new ones

[lost cloak]

nah

[cunning glade]

????

[real shale]

?????

[warm finch]

that is YOUR best way to deal with it. that's not the case for the majority of the players.

The entire point of elevator parts is to complete the phase and move onto the next phase. The point of the milestones and tiers is to teach players new concepts and tie them into existing production.

[smoky forge]

[warm finch]

alright, I've decided this is a troll. time to stop feeding the troll

[real shale]

oh we arent doing the question mark thing anymore? okay

[jagged nymph]

well yes you do you cant just say "nuh uh youre wrong cause im right teeheehehehehe" it just makes you look stupid lmao

[grizzled shard]

???????

[cunning glade]

Mods just improve an already good game

[jagged nymph]

or make it worse in the case of some mods

[cunning glade]

True

Mods are definitely a solution if the game doesn't play how u want it too

[floral sparrow]

If you press H while placing an object then nudge it beneath the ground, will there be any way to remove it after?

[jagged nymph]

go under the map

[cunning glade]

Don't think so without interactive map or that

[warm finch]

if you can't highlight it while in dismnatle mode, you'll have to use SCIM to remove it

[real shale]

guys, i think i have an addiction

[mortal ginkgo]

to limestone I hope

[real shale]

no, to satisfactory

[warm finch]

duh, we're in a satisfactory discord talking about satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

limestone is in satisfactory so it checks out

[warm finch]

the first step is admitting you have a ~~problem ~~factory

[west jackal]

Okay im also addicted but my dumb girlfriend likes spending time with me, really cuts out on my factory time 🙄😞

I dream im belts and pipes

[reef basin]

that's not best way at all

[west jackal]

I think constant feeding is the best solution, but mods do that so I dont mind having a mod for that

(I dont have it this playthrough) just going to add it when 1.2 is out on ea and not exp

[reef basin]

any solution that contains "dismantle afterwards" is just not best simply because you're spending time to actively make your game worse 😄

[cunning glade]

Get her too join?

Easiest solution

[lost cloak]

until you get to the latest stages of the elevator, i think it absolutely is. Anything more sophisticated is just extra work

[reef basin]

dismantling is extra work

[lost cloak]

nah that takes seconds

[reef basin]

seconds to make your production worse

[lost cloak]

building it also takes seconds. And you dont need anything large

[cunning glade]

Dismantling is definitely extra work

Hate dismantling

[lost cloak]

it takes literal seconds

[cunning glade]

Yeah per item u have too delete

[lost cloak]

no, for the whole thing

[reef basin]

if I can spend 5 seconds to have less factory, or spend 0 seconds to have more factory, I know what I'll pick

[cunning glade]

That's assuming u can delete it all or need too

[next ivy]

you can dismantle 50 at once
or a whole blueprint

[cunning glade]

Omg

[lost cloak]

well it was built to be temprary. Takes minutes to build, seconds to remove.

[cunning glade]

I forgot there's a dismantle limit

What the hell

[next ivy]

but what if you dont want everything gone
and want to keep foundations for example

[cunning glade]

Why is that a thing

[next ivy]

now you gotta spend more time to make sure you didnt delete a foundation

[cunning glade]

Css needs too change that

[next ivy]

unless theres a filter ?

[lost cloak]

you wont hit it

[west jackal]

I agree, what i suggested isnt dismantle after

[native tapir]

Which one

[real shale]

there is a filter

[lost cloak]

its not 50 buildings

[reef basin]

why ever dismantle

[cunning glade]

Do u build on a scale for ants or something

[west jackal]

You're misreading?

[lost cloak]

no, i build sufficient, for the space elevator

[next ivy]

1 is sufficient

[west jackal]

Im not suggesting to dismantle. This guy is just rage baiting everyone, being a troll.

[next ivy]

in some cases even 0

[cunning glade]

I mean ig

I forgot there's a dismantle limit that's wild

Let's hope I don't need too re do any big builds in vanilla then

Or ig 1.2 would hit live by the time I get too later game

[west jackal]

Inf zoop and dismantle are nice qol mods

[cunning glade]

I miss them so much

[next ivy]

blueprint as much as you can

[cunning glade]

So so so so so much

[west jackal]

Can't masa dismantle in BP mode unfortunately (vanilla atleast)

[real shale]

personally i love dismantling and rebuilding, theres just something relaxing about turning your throughput around and nearly 10x it

[cunning glade]

My issue is idk how I'm gonna build and I like building different each time so making bp that work for multiple things I suck at

[next ivy]

dismantling a whole blueprint at once is usually more than 50 things

but yea, mass blueprint deletion would be nice too sometimes

[cunning glade]

I mean yeah when it's doing this but it's normally not

Cuz normally I'm overproducing from the start

[west jackal]

Same

[cunning glade]

And if I need more I just sloop

[west jackal]

Untill t8

At t8 I need... more

[cunning glade]

Like I'm sure I won't need more than 100 hmf a min

[real shale]

ive rebuilt my grassy fields from the ground up and its slowly turning into a city

im pretty sure ive added like 1 GB of RAM usage to my save from the concrete i've placed alone

[cunning glade]

At least on my other save with this new world I can use 40k copper for pasta and still have 10k left over

[meager fern]

yeah i personally can never build well enough to not need to dismantle, and i dont really buy the "theres enough space, so just leave what you built, and build something new"

[west jackal]

I dont do that

I would for atmosphere though

Like old forgotten factory buried under your city?

[next ivy]

i would disconnect the old array anyways

from getting any new inputs

so all its doing is looking ugly now

[sick falcon]

"im not congratulating you for finishing satisfactory, you should have been done 200 hours ago" - my partner, whos apparently ada in disguise

[next ivy]

this aint a speedrun game

[unborn flare]

there are speedruns though

[real shale]

Tell your partner one does not simply "finish" satisfactory

[cunning glade]

I actually hate that I'm on t4 and only at 200hours

[unkempt blade]

I mean the factory makes items right? That's the only bar you need to clear

[cunning glade]

I hope this save I slow down some

[meager fern]

no i like having my factory be as close to 100% efficiency as possible, so a new tier of conveyor belts, or new miner messes that up big time

[cunning glade]

Gonna try and decorate more well building so we will see

[meager fern]

inb4 people start telling me it doesnt need to be 100% efficient and blah blah

[unkempt blade]

why does it mess it up? just hook a splitter up and send the rest of the resources to a new factory

[cunning glade]

But it does all ur machine lights should be green

[unkempt blade]

it's more that "efficient" gets overused around here to the point of being a meaningless filler word a lot of the time

[next ivy]

because the act of sending it somewhere is fairly annoying

[real shale]

the most important part, are you all having fun playing pioneers

[cunning glade]

Well the most important part is finishing the space ele for ficsit

[unkempt blade]

like a tear down => rebuild is not "time efficient" so you kind of have to use more words

[meager fern]

exactly, i want things to be flowing smoothly and 1 nice clean line

[cunning glade]

Gotta save the kittens and puppies

[peak wasp]

hello

[cunning glade]

Well if u mean the items in one clean line then yes

[hollow ravine]

anybody knows where the mam node in the titan forest is?

[real shale]

MAM node?

[hollow ravine]

sam

[leaden turret]

from context, one assumes sam node

[mortal ginkgo]

SAM he means me thinks

[leaden turret]

[insert redacted joke here]

[real shale]

next to the bauxite

[lament olive]

Does anyone have a good guide on how to use vertical mergers and not go mad? If I place it off a refinery output going downwards past another refinery, and I place a merger, it connects fine. But if I place it off a floor hole lift going downwards past another refinery it's... 0.5m off?

[hollow ravine]

this one:
#screenshots message

[west jackal]

I'd send ovcasional inputs

[west jackal]

Cave?

[hollow ravine]

yea i just found it

i was looking for it for 10min and i couldnt idk

[unkempt blade]

ahh, uptime efficiency

[west jackal]

It has to be 100% pioneer.

[cunning glade]

I say that and then I spend a week building a 3600 plastic and 6450 rubber plant and I get lazy

Low-key making all of my plastic and rubber in one spot could be fun

I got some 20k oil too work with

[unkempt blade]

I'll just "round to the closest building" instead of underclocking, etc. a lot of the time. I'm not super concerned about perfect 100% on everything and not running out of power any time soon

[cunning glade]

Also since I'm not super limited in sulfur I may try nitro rocket fuel

[hollow ravine]

i place the lift way higher than it needs to be then i start placing mergers on it

[jagged nymph]

nitro >>>>>

[cunning glade]

Or atleast a mix of nitro and stock too get rid of the byproduct

[cunning glade]

It's alright

[jagged nymph]

nah its just simply graet

[cunning glade]

In terms of wanting too use all of the oil I have its horrible