❔┃ask-the-community

[lyric badger]

is it possible to remove exalted affix (T6 / T7) on an item?

[desert tree]

Use a Rune of Removal

[lyric badger]

ah ok, thought about removing all non-exalted affix on an exalted item XD

[formal dust]

is this better then my weapon i'm playing fire necromancer https://i.imgur.com/O8LnZjW.png

[dapper swift]

Do you kill tho?

[formal dust]

Ye i was reading that, i do not its my minions doing killblows its full summon build 8 archers /golem/4 mages etc

[dapper swift]

You could try it, I guess no harm in that, I guess you don't just stand there and watch so maybe you can get something out of it?

[sage parcel]

Hey guys, do we have an updated link for all the new content that will arrive in version 1.0? I always find links talking about the main changes, some talking about changes they plan to introduce, but never anything updated about what will actually be implemented. I know that patch notes usually come out a few days in advance, but I wanted to know if we have any more up-to-date links about

[cedar locust]

Hi there! All of our most recent Blog Posts about upcoming content can be found here! https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/developer-blogs/38

[wide sentinel]

come back for that on 19th

[minor vigil]

i dont think anything on this weapon will help a minion build at all

[fresh dune]

Are our characters server based (ie everything is saved online like Path of Exile or Diablo) or are the servers just login related and all data is local like Grim Dawn?

[cinder fossil]

if you're playing online its all server-authoritative

if you make an offline character then everything is local

[fresh dune]

Perfect that is what I was hoping. Gives the best of both worlds.

I knew they were going to give offline mode as that is noted in many places, but I wasn't sure if online was just take that offline character online. I much rather online being more locked down to (help) prevent cheating etc.

[exotic knot]

Hey guys, play now or 21?

[polar pendant]

up to you

see FAQ

[unique sonnet]

If I convert my necro pets to ice, which gear modifiers help them?

Does plain old Minion Damage still work?

[surreal verge]

Yes

[buoyant sinew]

the only thing that wouldn't work is say minion physical damage if they used to be physical but got converted

but then minion cold damage now would work (not that there is much of that)

[stoic palm]

If I were to start a game now, will that progress be compatible with the 1.0 launch? Or am I better off waiting?

[steel merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[stoic palm]

I'm stupid.

[steel merlin]

look you arent the first, or the second, or the hundredth (how is 100th spelled wtf)

[sinful laurel]

You did it right!

So proud

[steel merlin]

there is a reason i have the link in my clipboard

[stoic palm]

I appreciate the quick answer 🙂

[sinful laurel]

We literally do this all day

Captain America style

[steel merlin]

all in waiting for the start of the hype week that could come anytime soon

could be today, could be monday

oh no

it could be monday

[unique sonnet]

Is it better to shatter a blue with 1 effect so you know what you're getting? Or do a yellow so you get more stuff perhaps?

[sinful laurel]

Removal blues with a desired affix

[stoic palm]

I can clear my schedule tomorrow afternoon to begin being hyped.

[sinful laurel]

Removal yellows with a desired affix until fp goes, then shattet

[steel merlin]

if a blue has something you really want it is better to use rune of removal as it has high chance of getting all of what you want

[unique sonnet]

How do you Remove?

[steel merlin]

one of the runes

[sinful laurel]

With a rune of removal

[steel merlin]

like shatter

[sinful laurel]

Don't forget your glyph of hope

[unique sonnet]

Oh, is it more common? Seems like you'd use a lot of those.

[steel merlin]

its less common

[sinful laurel]

They're both pretty common in endgame though

[cedar locust]

😏

Haha, I'm joking (I'm not sure when it starts)

[queen scroll]

good afternoon! I bought Last Epoch back in 2021 and put just 30 hours into it, enjoyed my time and then shelved it to play at release
now that we're getting close I'm excited... any specific reasons to wait until launch day to dive back in? not sure of the current state of the game

[odd cliff]

Sorry this has prob been asked a ton. The runes that upgrade items to uniques... can I get something like Apathy's Maw that way or do I have to farm the boss?

[surreal verge]

That can never give you boss drops.

[odd cliff]

Figured, thank you!

[crude jewel]

just so iam 100% undestand; if something dont specificly says "on melee hit" and only "on hit" it means every spell like fireball, lightning blast, snap freeze count as a hit?

[steel merlin]

yes

[crude jewel]

so everything that does dmg, hits, right?

[buoyant sinew]

not everything, damage over time isn't a hit

and some skills are pure damage over time

[crude jewel]

yea damage over time i rememberd doesnt count

[scarlet nacelle]

Hi, strange question: I bought the game in 2021, now there are some cosmetic bonuses for pre-ordering, which are divided into different versions, so, as far as I understand, my version corresponds to the standard one? It’s just that on Steam you can buy any version.

[crude jewel]

oh so an aura for example that makes every second dmg also dont count?

[steel merlin]

exactly

[crude jewel]

gocha ty

[steel merlin]

well depends

[crude jewel]

mhm?

[steel merlin]

iif it is something like, every second it makes a explosion around you, then counts

[crude jewel]

i see, cause it "explode" and therefore hits, but an aura thats pulsating doesnt hit?

i know there is some sort of aura but i cant rember which skill it was

[steel merlin]

fire aura?

doesnt hit

[crude jewel]

flame ward has something like that or?

[steel merlin]

yeah flame ward can generate fire aura

[crude jewel]

and that dont hit kk

yea i think it was flame ward where i read it

tyty

[buoyant sinew]

if you are in doubt lastepochtools will tell you for every skill and ailment whether it's a hit or not

[crude jewel]

so iirc month's ago, i ask the question; you can everytime upgrade... not sure if that answers your question?!

[red mortar]

"recently" is a fixed amount of time of it varies?

[cedar locust]

If you purchased the game before 0.9 (March 9th 2023) you should have the Golden Guppy, Traveler's backpack, Juvenile Skullen Pet and 350 EP iirc

If you wish to get the pre-order items for the Deluxe or Ultimate edition, you can buy these separately further down on the Steam Store page!

[crude jewel]

averielle was faster ^^

[scarlet nacelle]

Thanks a lot!

[scarlet nacelle]

Thanks too

[acoustic thicket]

Does someone know wether or not Trade vs. CoF leaderboards will be seperated for launch, or if there is a way to tell if a player is CoF or Trade on the leaderboard?

[supple moat]

what is the best build to level a druid, is it swarm blade / locust swarm one?

[crude jewel]

i think i remember seen a picture from leaderboards where a symbole of the guild is there?! could be wrong, i look if i find it

@acoustic thicket nvm i had tradeing in mind not leaderboard

[acoustic thicket]

if you or any one had any form of official confirmation on this that would be super dope

[harsh phoenix]

Hi, made a new char just got to town. Now i cant log in anymore . Is there a fix for this ?

[crude jewel]

@acoustic thicket https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/ ah this is what i had in mind, not sure if theres an official picture out since https://lastepoch.com/ladder there stands coming soon, i only know that ladder from tools

[cedar locust]

Can you try picking a different server from the log-in screen?

[acoustic thicket]

but it does not differentiate between Trade and CoF

[crude jewel]

could be that the api behind atm not gives that info out since its "so new"

but i could be totally wrong on that

just assuming

[near path]

why would that matter at all for Arena Ladder placement

[acoustic thicket]

because trade streamers will get fed all the super items by their thousands of viewers and you dont have a single chance competing

[near path]

guess you could #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs if the ladder is going to highlight what faction a character aligns with

[near path]

I would urge you to read #news before making assumptions

[buoyant sinew]

they already did #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[near path]

because that's literally not how it works

[acoustic thicket]

i looked at most of the news but i could not find an answer

[near path]

1. The only way to gift something to someone NOT actively in your party is by using Resonances, which are a dropped resource and only droppable for that SPECIFIC person if you have extensively partied with them
2. You cannot make a direct person-to-person sale on the Bazaar, it's an auction house listing
3. An item can only be traded once

[steel merlin]

you can make a direct person to person sale

if both are mg

[acoustic thicket]

2. can be easily circumvented plus u can directly trade

[near path]

I mean it's theoretically possible sure

[acoustic thicket]

Its entirely possible.

[strong trail]

Hello, is it possible to progress monolithe with friends ?

[acoustic thicket]

Anyways if any one find any official statement about seperate leaderboards please send me DM

[steel merlin]

the only that can stop it from happening with streamers is ehg smacking 'em

[acoustic thicket]

Otherwise leaderboards will be dead from the get go.

[near path]

I suppose if you are the type of person to get mad about a meaningless Arena that even the devs have publicly admitted is the least rewarding thing in the game, then I guess this stuff matters

[steel merlin]

rake chill

[near path]

though it was mentioned in one stream that there are systems in place to prevent RMT

[steel merlin]

stock think about it

[unkempt mist]

What is a good support character for playing in a group?

[steel merlin]

if there is no separation, only one half could potentially be pointless

[surreal verge]

Leaderboards are kinda already pointless.

[steel merlin]

and only potentially

[crude jewel]

true

[near path]

wait till this fellow finds out that nearly all the leaderboard podium finishers are bug abusers

[acoustic thicket]

Thats not the point, everyone can play a bugged build.

And if you think leaderboards in ARPGs are useless... well why do all of them have them and shittons of participants.

[crude jewel]

i dont play meta or bugged stuff, i play stupid things i think are fun for me :)

[acoustic thicket]

Yes okay you do not care about leaderboards, fine. But there are people who do.

[steel merlin]

problem with current leaderboard is that it is in arena

[marsh maple]

Yep. A very few amount of them do care.

[acoustic thicket]

I didnt came here to discuss pro/con leaderboards, i just asked a simple question btw

[marsh maple]

[misty laurel]

is there a way to auto pickup shards?

[steel merlin]

no

[dense root]

no

[crude jewel]

then sry we cant help you must wait then :/

[near path]

Idk man I only play good ARPGs, and PoE doesn't have leaderboards. I wish you all the best, I do hope EHG actually improves Arena and makes it worth doing, and impossible to bug / abuse.

[surreal verge]

You got your answer. Items cannot be retraded and people still need favor to trade, so even a streamer can only get so many items.

[near path]

it's genuinely a good #1123698164503949392 to drop btw

if you feel strongly about it

[surreal verge]

Unless they no-life 24/7

[muted merlin]

Top 3 most fun build ?

[strong trail]

Hello, is it possible to progress monolithe with friends ? Or it is a solo content ?

[acoustic thicket]

Farming enough favor for 10 trades shouldnt be that hard huh?

[crude jewel]

squirrel

[steel merlin]

acid flask marksman, forge guard spinning shields, shaman tempest strike(joke)

yeah i dont think favor will stop that stuff

[near path]

shame on you for doing that to newbies

[surreal verge]

Sure, let me find that example list hold on...

[acoustic thicket]

of course PoE has Ladder, for a sizeable amount of people racing ladders is the only point in playing the game.

[cerulean flame]

I want to ask is it common, that the map wont show correctly ?

[steel merlin]

need more details

which map, whats the problem

[crude jewel]

you mean last one in timeline and monolith clicking quests? yes known bug

[cerulean flame]

I am playing on linux and have visual issues

[crude jewel]

oh visual issues? can you screenshot maybe?

[cerulean flame]

yes sec I log in game

[golden violet]

helpp, it just wont let me tp here to this echo quest

is it a known bug?

all other places are fine

but this just gives me infinite loading

[steel merlin]

verify game files in steam

[pliant marlin]

if I have bunch of -poison resistance to enemies already (aura of decay -1% per int etc), do I still benefit from poison resistance shred?

[surreal verge]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[steel merlin]

yes but less effective

[fathom shard]

im a little lost on when to sell vs shatter items early game. Im lvl 35 or so, i understand crafting basics enough, ive tried keeping as many items as possible

[buoyant sinew]

don't sell items ever

[fathom shard]

at this early stage am i worrying a bit too much

[steel merlin]

like adding too much %increased damage at the cost of other modifiers

[fathom shard]

oh ok

[buoyant sinew]

(except spare dungeon keys in the endgame)

[dense root]

sell nothing, shatter things with affixes you need shards for

[buoyant sinew]

selling items gives such little gold it's totally pointless

[pliant marlin]

selling is pointless, hide useless things instead... shatter stuff you want the shards for (common one is movement speed)

[fathom shard]

makes sense

would be nice if there was some incentive to sell, just so we don't go TOO insane on storage, like a huge middle finger to D4 just bragging about stash space :d

[pliant marlin]

and if your build wants like a bunch of melee attack speed and it's early on, you might wanna shatter excess melee attack speed items

[dense root]

nah selling items is boring

this is intentional

[acoustic thicket]

So what your saying is leveling 90-100 nets enough favor to deck out an entire character with BiS items, which will get thrown at streamers by their community 100%, right?

[dense root]

the goal is for you to spend less time in front of a vendor with a menu open

and more time doing gameplay stuff

[steel merlin]

incentive to seel means we have to go sell, and then go back to kill stuff

[surreal verge]

This assumes you CAN get that much xp quickly

[steel merlin]

please god no

[acoustic thicket]

You see the point in seperating Trade vs CoF now?

[pliant marlin]

no. there's a loot filter. you can hide useless items and never even see them. much better than having to pick up and sell stuff

[surreal verge]

No.

[buoyant sinew]

I honestly like that you can go through the whole campaign without needing to vendor/stash a single time

[fathom shard]

i see what you mena, maybe i just need to reduce my loot filter down a bit

[buoyant sinew]

it's so smooth

[steel merlin]

i see the point in separating, but i think you are being overdramatic with the repercussions

[golden violet]

didnt help

[surreal verge]

Because in 90-100 CoF can get about 20x the loot for basically playing,

[steel merlin]

i also think they will separate

[fathom shard]

i have a maxroll filter but i guess im not "cleaning" away old pickups that might not really be useful

[acoustic thicket]

Okay, you will 3 days into the league when streamers have full BiS and the leaderboard is entirely played by them then. Am i talking to a brick wall here, lmao

[pallid tulip]

Does anyone have a link for a guide or their own point of view for which uniques with LP and corresponding stats that would make for good leveling legendaries? 🙂

[steel merlin]

lol no

[surreal verge]

It's fine, they still have to have someone win 5 lotteries in a row, while CoF players just need to win one.

[steel merlin]

leaderboard is even split by class, there arent enough streamers to warp leaderboards

[red mortar]

is stun avoidance necessary in a life build?

[steel merlin]

they also have to play arena nonstop

that will make them lose viewers

[acoustic thicket]

They dont have to win anything, they get BiS thrown at them by thousands of people watching them, why is that so hard for you to understand?

[surreal verge]

Someone HAS to gain the BiS. That someone has to win lotteries for the streamer

[acoustic thicket]

Jesus get over yourself dude.

[surreal verge]

It's really not that hard to understand.

[steel merlin]

there are a lot of conditionals for streamers to warp the ladders

[acoustic thicket]

They dont have to win the items, they have thousands of people playing the lottterie for them

whats so hard to understand

[surreal verge]

Yes, and I'm saying one in the thousands of people have to win 5 lotteries in a row.

That's still lower odds than having someone winning a single lottery.

[acoustic thicket]

No they win a single one and trade it to their fav streamer for a shoutout

[cerulean flame]

here is the screenshot of the map:

[acoustic thicket]

and that streamer has BiS in 3 days and dominates the ladder from that day

thats the problem, it is QUITE obvious, isnt it?

[surreal verge]

In that time, a CoF could have gotten 2-3 BiSes

[near path]

yeah it's a known bug, hopefully fixed in 1.0

[steel merlin]

they have to play merchants guild, they have to play in arena nonstop, they have to cover all classes, they have to have enough merchant guild followers to get them the good stuff

[surreal verge]

All by themselves.

[acoustic thicket]

Your just trolling at this point cuz u cant get overyourself dude

[pastel pebble]

Jesus

[surreal verge]

Is it REALLY hard to understand CoF has super drop rates?

[pastel pebble]

Take a moment and step back if you are going to be hostile

[surreal verge]

Like, it's ridiculous.

[pastel pebble]

Maybe a deep breath

[acoustic thicket]

CoF droprates WONT MAKE UP for THOUSANDS OF PLAYERS feeding streamers

[steel merlin]

did you read my conditionals

[acoustic thicket]

you would need to make the droprates x1000

[steel merlin]

how many streamers do you think there are with large following

[near path]

I don't think they understand how crafting and item acquisition in LE actually works because they haven't played the game

[acoustic thicket]

multiple thousands in fact

[surreal verge]

They don't need that.
They farm as a thousand with some of those super rates.

[pastel pebble]

Stock, have you played the game much?

[near path]

the depth of the RNG is beyond them

[steel merlin]

people really dont understand that cof modifiers arent loot multipliers

[buoyant sinew]

look I don't know or care about who is right in this discussion but you're all just yelling the same things at each other now, do you have to continue? 😦

[crude jewel]

@acoustic thicket you should stop here, wait if someone DM you

[buoyant sinew]

no one is winning here

[acoustic thicket]

this.

[steel merlin]

no this stock wtf

my god

[surreal verge]

They're quality multipliers, VERY high amounts fyi.

[near path]

brother, please tell us how many hours you've actually played this game and what BiS items you have obtained

[surreal verge]

The time it takes a MG to farm a LP4, a CoF could have already gotten 5.

[acoustic thicket]

dude, if you think CoF will make up for streamer feeding your so far beyond it, lmao

[near path]

can you tell us this?

even the first part

[surreal verge]

That's because you can't.
No item reselling remember?

[acoustic thicket]

YOu dont even need to resell the item

you drop it and gift it to streamer, done

[pastel pebble]

You don't resell it

[buoyant sinew]

<@&1082357055484071997> 😦 the arguing isn't stopping

[pastel pebble]

You cannot resell

[near path]

how many hours have you played dude?

[keen dust]

guys how important to choose right blessing ? is it revertable ?

[dense root]

why do we even care about people giving items to streamers

[acoustic thicket]

you dont need to resell? wtf are you even talking about

[icy drift]

I don't think anyones breaking any rules here tbf

[surreal verge]

Then why the fuck aren't the players running it themselves and take the leaderboards themselves?

[delicate dust]

Are we being civil?

[near path]

1 person definitely isn't

[surreal verge]

Well no insults are being hurled yet

[icy drift]

i feel like it's pretty civil as a spectator

[near path]

you can scroll up in the chat

[cinder fossil]

you can kill that boss again to replace the blessing

[delicate dust]

Disagreements are fine, as long as it's civil.

[dense root]

every time you kill a timeline boss you're given 3-5 new blessings to choose from

[acoustic thicket]

because it will be dominated by streamers who have BiS gear a week into the cycle, thats the whole point why i asked my question wether or not there is CoF and trade leaderboard seperation

[crude jewel]

it derailed rly fast somehow oO but no punches so far 🍿

[pliant marlin]

You can do the same monolith again to get a new choice of blessings for that slot. so it's not super important. but try to grab the best one because there are many choices for each slot and you might have to farm a certain monolith multiple times if you want a specific one

[surreal verge]

Yeesh if they wana stream sitting in arena for days for a number, then so be it.

[steel merlin]

we told you several reasons why it is not likely to happen or the end of the world

[near path]

again dude, how much have you played? Do you know how a BiS item is farmed and created in this game? What it takes?

how many BiS items have you created?

[delicate dust]

You would need to have a Resonance with the streamer to gift an item purchased from the Bazaar

[surreal verge]

The streamer needs to even PLAY the game to get them

And honestly at that point they'll have half the BiSes they need.

[steel merlin]

cant you trade peer to peer kain?

[acoustic thicket]

You cant even gift a purchased item... or resell , thats not even the point.

[steel merlin]

in merchants guild

[icy drift]

And i'm pretty sure people that trading someone p2p and taking like no gold will be flagged as rmt

[surreal verge]

Streamer followings would just speed it up a day or two

[crude jewel]

not without resonance no

[icy drift]

yes you can

[crude jewel]

?

[acoustic thicket]

the point is streamers have thousands of people watching: their viewers drop BiS item, they sell it for cheaps to streamer. They now dominate ladder.

[icy drift]

there's p2p trading

[delicate dust]

Yes, with normal Bazaar restrictions. You can also Gift, but if they weren't present for the drop, or it was from the Bazaar, it requires a resonance to gift.

[crude jewel]

maybe i understand that "per to per" different then

[near path]

I just want to understand why this person thinks it's so easy to create BiS gear as MG in the first place

[surreal verge]

Yes you can, but it's as if you're trading with the market

[dense root]

is there even a single le streamer with "thousands of people watching"

[surreal verge]

I hate to ask, but you DO know BiSes are piss easy to make right?

[icy drift]

i can invite you to party, and trade an item with you directly without the need for the bazaar, but still pay favour

[delicate dust]

Trading player to player still requires the appropriate MG Ranks, and incurs the same Favor costs.

[dense root]

but also why do we care what other people do with their items

[pliant marlin]

there might be on launch if a popular ARPG streamer decides to stream the game

[near path]

Quinn / Raxx maybe, but it's still <2k I think

[dense root]

if some guy drops a good item and gives it to a streamer he likes then good for him

[surreal verge]

Oh also, remember that faction rank thing? Yeah that restricts what items you can sell

[dense root]

it's just a game anyway

[crude jewel]

thats new for me, but i will see it then when its live

[surreal verge]

By the time you hit 100, you still can't trade legendaries!

[steel merlin]

wait really?

[surreal verge]

CoF meanwhile can still make legendaries!

[steel merlin]

nevermind, im playing cof

[dense root]

wow were you considering betraying the spheare before this news?

[near path]

that's why I'm wondering where this person's confidence is coming from

[steel merlin]

no, im joking

ill never trade if i can avoid it

[acoustic thicket]

Your moving the goalpost with every argument you loose. First: "noone plays ladder, PoE has no ladder" (lol it has) then: "you dont have the favor for it" (lol, you have) then: "BiS is piss easy to get" (lol its not)

[dense root]

just out of curiosity

[surreal verge]

Well, what's your evidence of possible streamer shinanigans other than "We got thousands of people"?

[dense root]

how many hours of last epoch have you played stockwerk?

since i see you're new to the discord

[near path]

they clearly haven't

[cinder fossil]

unless you're a community tester and are breaking NDA right now, you wouldnt know that for sure

[dense root]

i don't want to assume anomander

[near path]

this is just hypothetical rage, I've asked 4 times to no answer

[steel merlin]

we have all sufferend hundreds of hours of slamming legendaries 👴

[cedar locust]

Enough. Conversation ends.

[acoustic thicket]

Its literally what happens in any other trade ARPG or trade MMO. thats why PoE has SSF and trade seperation for their ladders.

And your moving the goalpost AGAIN. btw.

[surreal verge]

I do wish you the best of luck.

[near path]

[surreal verge]

You're not really catching the point anyway (Maybe read the trade #news post again)

[remote mirage]

is there any option of duplicating online chars to offline?

[surreal verge]

No

[steel merlin]

so anyways, in the argument im sure someone asked for this

wait nothtat one

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362 this one

[humble drift]

Hi, sorry for interrupting, I have a quick question. Does anyone know if I "block" a "hit" does it still counts as "when you are hit" or it doesn't count as hit becausue I have blocked the hit? I am trying to find out if "Counter Attack (when you are hit)" would work even if the hit is blocked by a shield.

[near path]

a block still counts as a hit

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[near path]

because you still take damage

[crude jewel]

and enemy still take dmg too

[humble drift]

Thank you all.

[acoustic thicket]

awww god... im done, lmfao.

[dense root]

please don't ping me with useless comments

[surreal verge]

It’s fine, they’ll seen in a few days anyway

“Fuck around and find out”

[desert tree]

Its important because they are quite powerful, but they are revertibles

[royal sorrel]

Are there any skills in LE that explode corpses like for example detonate dead or the Occultists profane bloom in PoE?

[strong trail]

Hello, is it possible to progress monolithe with friends ? Or it is a solo content ?

[near path]

you can't explode enemy corpses and stuff but iirc there is an exploding Volatile Zombies build

[surreal verge]

You dont progress corruption, but can progress stuff like stability, boss drops, and blessings still

[desert tree]

Kzb had a better answer

[royal sorrel]

That's a shame nothing is more satisfying than profane bloom pops

[strong trail]

Yes but it progress only for the one who start the echo ? (the island)

[surreal verge]

Corruption is only for the one who started it, the rest still get everything else

[strong trail]

ok thank you!

[proven pine]

for end game group play, is there a class groups always want? like a paladin for example? since they give group benefits like healing

[marble oriole]

"Do not play Forge Guard." xd

[near path]

objectively good advice

[surreal scarab]

Question, when 1.0 drops I would expect server stability issues or even Que times. If I started the cycle in offline mode does everything carry over to online mode or are they separate?

[near path]

offline and online are separate

[surreal scarab]

Ok thanks

[steel merlin]

offline mode is entirely client based so you could cheat stuff and pass it to online if they werent separate

[surreal scarab]

Yeah I’m aware I just didn’t know

That’s a good thing they are separate for sure

[acoustic thicket]

but why do you care what other people do with their items?

[steel merlin]

a wise person once said: the conversation is over

[crude jewel]

do i remember wrong, after i accepted an side quest, i cant cancel it anymore?

[cedar locust]

This conversation has ended. #rules 8, thank you

[acoustic thicket]

Just did a Mono, the objective was to kill a Spreading Frost, but when I did the objective it spawned this Poison scarab type boss. Is that common?

[keen dust]

guys im looking for item filter for dropping ones . and a guide that teaches me how to upload it into game . Help Please

[heavy flame]

Hey! Can someone please explain me how it works?
I've took "Binary System" at Black Hole tree.
Black hole turned into 2 stars 50/50 fire/cold.

Then i took Singularity and Black Hole turned into one piece again.

So Singularity cancels binary system or how it works? Because as i can see, Cold DMG at passive tree still scaling DPS numbers at skill.

[sinful laurel]

You just got ambushed

[balmy oriole]

So I did some Mana Calculations for Explosive Traps, can someone have a look that I didnt make any mistakes here:

Base Mana Cost → 10 Mana Cost per Cast
Automated Bombardment Node → +7 Mana Cost per Cast
Clustered Explosives Node → +14 Mana Cost per Cast

Current Sum of Mana Costs → 31 Mana Cost per Cast

Now all the layers of Mana Cost Reductions:
Two -5 Mana Cost Rings → 21 Mana Cost per Cast

Subtle Sabotage Node → -40% Mana Cost → 12.6 Mana Cost per Cast

Jelkhor's Blueprint → +32% Mana Cost Efficiency → 9.56 Mana Cost per Cast (equals an about 24.5% Mana Cost Reduction)

Final Mana Cost per Cast: 9.56 Mana

In the passive tree of Explosive Trap I've skilled that I have an 100% chance to drop a new trap on detonating, meaning I am actively throwing 5 traps per cast and these 5 traps all also basically proc a second time resulting in 10 trap procs per cast.

So now I take the gain 1 Mana upon Trap Detonation Passive Tree Mastery giving me 10 Mana back per cast that cost me 9.56 Mana before hand meaning spamming explosive Trap is actually net positive right?

[sinful laurel]

Normal

[night cave]

is anyone bothered by packs of 10/20 enemies just at the edge of the screen all throwing their projectile on the same frame, killing you instantly ? Is this a skill issue ?

[acoustic thicket]

Ohhh, ok. Ty, he did drop out of the wall yeah

[keen dust]

guys im looking for item filter for dropping ones . and a guide that teaches me how to upload it into game . Help Please

[dense root]

just kill enemies from 2 screens away smh

[sinful laurel]

Get an ultra wide monitor scrub

[desert tree]

Do you have a movement skill ?

[buoyant sinew]

it's both annoying/bad design and kind of a skill issue, no reason it can't be both 😄

[crude jewel]

yes you get lied searching something or killing and then you get ambushed and then thats your new quest to finish instead the previous one

well its not lied but yea

[night cave]

nah, just a random mono with A LOT of the wengari that throw axes

[steel merlin]

undead wengari are the bane fo my existence

[night cave]

like a lot a lot

[desert tree]

Not what I asked

Do you have a movement ability

?

[crude jewel]

what you mean with dropping ones i am a bit confused

[steel merlin]

why is this question about movement ability so menacing

[night cave]

oh yeah, but that only dodges once

[keen dust]

not for bag or stash i mean

[crude jewel]

?

[night cave]

then i have to take care of the other packs without it

[topaz mason]

hey guys im new and just wondering what are some options for a more chill playthrough class wise, necro? or like a beast primalist new to ARPG games too 🙂 thanks

[crude jewel]

i still dont understand :S

[night cave]

That's weirdly reassuring, you and me man

[keen dust]

All good . i solved my issue

[crude jewel]

nice!

back to my question ^^; i cant cancel an side quest after accepting?

[desert tree]

Nope

[faint cape]

No (or not until 1.0)

[crude jewel]

k ty :)

[faint cape]

(I think that's a 1.0 thing)

[heavy flame]

Does someone know? I still can't get why it's scaling with cold if there's no cold tag

[desert tree]

Maybe a bug

#1123698102470189118

[crude jewel]

i mean if its scale with both and its multiply, i would count that as a nice feature

[heavy flame]

Thats what i mean:

1: Removed my rings
2: Checked DMG at tooltip (no cold tag)
3: Equipping ring with cold dmg
4: Checked DMG at toolptip - more dmg

[dusky cosmos]

Do i get less damage or do I deal less damage?

[heavy flame]

get less dmg

[night cave]

You get less

[steel merlin]

taken

[dusky cosmos]

thx

[crude jewel]

have you checked other rings with cold dmg? other rings with fire dmg instead?

does it the same?

[sinful laurel]

We would need to know exactly what's on your rings.

That's not a super well controlled test depending on the rings

[faint cape]

Check your gloves

they give you flat cold

[proud sandal]

hello friends, do vendors sell gold amulets?

[heavy flame]

aight, second test without equipment just with ring

[pliant marlin]

is there support yet for searching the stash with multiple keywords?

[faint cape]

No, sadly

[sinful laurel]

No 😦

[pliant marlin]

alright, no worries

[proud sandal]

I wanna make Devotion but cant find a gold amulet. Do vendors sell them?

[cinder fossil]

just ascend any amulet, the subtype doesnt matter

[sinful laurel]

Any amulet

Gamble them

[heavy flame]

1: 1961 dmg with no items equiped
2: equip ring with 9% cold damage (minion implicits, i don't have minions)
3: 2027 dmg with cold dmg % ring equipped

[pliant marlin]

any type of amulet can become any type of unique amulet with RoA

[proud sandal]

wait what ?

[crude jewel]

have you other rings with cold dmg to test? have you other rings with lightning dmg to test?

[sinful laurel]

Only base item matters for RoA

It's pretty simple. Amulet makes unique amulet

[pliant marlin]

it'd be too easy otherwise 😛 only the item type matters. like sword / axe / amulet

[proud sandal]

yeah if I ROA a gold amulet ill get Devotion right?

[pliant marlin]

no

[sinful laurel]

ANY amuley

[proud sandal]

D:

[sinful laurel]

Any

[near path]

you ROA ANY amulet and you can hit Devotion

[sinful laurel]

Amulet

[near path]

or any other unique amulet

[heavy flame]

i'll check it, what do you mean "other ring with cold dmg to test"? why don't you like my 9% cold dmg ring

[proud sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-17048449662472934214

ty

[steel merlin]

I guess in case the ring is the one bugged or something

[crude jewel]

if other rings with cold dont get you more, that specific ring is bugged, if it gives also dmg, cold dmg is bugged, if lightning gives dmg too, skill is bugged

its just to cross test if you can get same/other results with different items/affices

[heavy flame]

i've tested with a lot more cold dmg rings, just lemme find it

[unique sonnet]

If I have necro pets that do cold damage, will a +cold damage item help them? Or just me?

[sinful laurel]

Just you

Unless it specified minion

[crude jewel]

if you already tested, its ok, and have you tested it with lightning rings too?

[desert tree]

Have you tested on the dummy ?

[crude jewel]

^ this also

[desert tree]

I mean the dps tooltip is a lying bastard

[young sleet]

I kinda want a "falcon punch" build. Is that possible?

[crude jewel]

maybe the tooltip is bugged yea

[heavy flame]

lightning right gives no benefits

[crude jewel]

well now we know more, now test it on a dummy and see if theres a difference in the dmg :)

[sinful laurel]

Man's a scientist 🙂

[crude jewel]

brute force a problem is awesome xD

[sinful laurel]

Preferably with a more than 9% DMG one. That may not be enough to outweigh the inherent damage variance

[heavy flame]

I just want to black hole be 50/50 cold and fire dmg (binary system) but singularity somewhy deletes "cold" tag, but dmg numbers is still scaling by cold

it's weird and i can't get how it works

[crude jewel]

could be that its bugged skill, iirc there are still some skills bugged, known and already fixed but we only get it with 1.0?!

at least i have that in mind read somewhere

[proud sandal]

if i gamble a ruby amulet does it has a chance to become any unique amulet?

[steel merlin]

yes

wait no

what gambler

[silver rover]

which is it? If it drops from a guy in the last ruin timeline why do you target farm in ending the storm

[steel merlin]

normal gambler, dungeon gambler or rune of ascedance?

[proud sandal]

normal gambler

[sinful laurel]

Dude

[steel merlin]

normal gambler cant make uniques

[sinful laurel]

Are You sure???

[native sail]

It's both. It's the only item in the game that is both a boss and a global drop.

[steel merlin]

😂

[sinful laurel]

Lol I edited instead of responding. Are you sure???

Cause...

[heavy flame]

@crude jewel And just second thought: Binary System make black hole became two stars.
And singularity make it "one black hole" per cast - but with binary system it's still one, but two stars.

i can't get it negates each other or just with singularity it became single star visually

[crude jewel]

i saw that live!

[steel merlin]

yes, he is asking about normal gambler

[sinful laurel]

I kinda think he's still asking about RoA

Just basing on recent history

[steel merlin]

man i asked

[sinful laurel]

Lol

[steel merlin]

here

[sinful laurel]

I know, but I think that he thinks that gambled rings somehow matter for ROA different than found rings

[umbral mango]

has there been patch notes or news on uniques / affixs for the new classes?

[proud sandal]

so i went to a gambler instead of forging it

with a ROA

[crude jewel]

not sure on those nodes sry, havnt played blackhole in a bit

[steel merlin]

i see the confusion

[proud sandal]

😄

[steel merlin]

yeah gamble them with RoA

[sinful laurel]

Gamble them to get amulets to ROA lol

Since it doesn't matter type or levrl

[cedar locust]

Patch notes are usually a few days before launch!

[cursive delta]

Question!
Is it possible for us to make an exalted besides droping it?

[sinful laurel]

No

T6 and 7 drop only

[heavy flame]

@crude jewel if you're interested - i've tested at dummy and cold damage increases only tooltip but not the real damage

[steel merlin]

cauli is so happy right now

[heavy flame]

i just told him because he was trying to helm with my problem, thought he might be interested how it solved

[sinful laurel]

Science has been done here today

[heavy flame]

don't be toxic please, i've did nothing bad to you

[steel merlin]

what

[sinful laurel]

How was that toxic?

At all

[steel merlin]

why does nobody undesrstand me 😢

[sinful laurel]

Yaki get you

It's cause we're old and in the way

[steel merlin]

first people agree while i disagree, and now i get called toxic for complimenting 😭

[sinful laurel]

Just quit that Internet

[heavy flame]

you know, it's was sarcastic to make my message look stupid and useless
don't pretend like you don't understand now

[steel merlin]

what??????????????????

[sinful laurel]

Dude. If you're skin is THAT thin

[steel merlin]

IT WASNT SARCASM

[sinful laurel]

You are the one who needs a break from the internet

[steel merlin]

Cauli managed to find a twist to the bug that i didnt expect, if i did that myself i would be happy

thats why i said cauli would be happy

the fuck

[sinful laurel]

Cauli literally guided you to the proper science. That was being acknowledged...

[heavy flame]

dude don't get mad i've just asked to don't be toxic that's all

[sinful laurel]

Bruv

[full heron]

Don't mind that toxic kid, i have seen him before

[sinful laurel]

I also can't tell if this is now a troll or not

Yakovik is toxic? Better provide some receipts for that

[steel merlin]

me?

[sinful laurel]

Btw, you're the only one here approaching toxic atm

[dawn stirrup]

Someone please explain it to me? How the most weak (looking at a glance) item produce most of the stats and the damage?

On screen 1 I have scepter which dosent have no special attrs, but produce so much bufs
On screen 2, the other scepter has more MELE damage, but at the end Rive has much lower damage.

I cant see the logic. With the poor scepter I have 200% mele damage and rive has 987 dmg, whth a little better scepter i have 250% mele dmg buf but the rive has 871 dmg

Why?

[full heron]

I don't know about you but few times seen Primeval with extremely toxic behavior at general. And he is sarcastically pretending like he's not

[sinful laurel]

1. Don't trust tooltip
2. Flat melee damagr

[toxic echo]

How about everyone just drop it and move on. Block buttons exist

[sinful laurel]

Oh wait. I'm the toxic one. Got it

No eagles I'm sorry

[native sail]

how is either of them toxic here I'm so confused

[crude jewel]

thanks ty! so vlad was right tooltip's are liars!

[sinful laurel]

Shit like this doesn't just get to be said and then just swept under the rug

Show me somewhere that I am actually toxic. Please

[dawn stirrup]

so, I will play with this I think much be better? This with 250% buf to mele dmg, despite that all skills show them with much lower total dmg.

On diablo was the same shit 😄

[cedar locust]

Yep this

[sinful laurel]

Again, and I can't stress this enough, do not trust the tooltips

[sinful laurel]

Awesome.

Thanks for the moderation

[cedar locust]

Eyes in many channels, hard to keep on top of everything and Eagles was right

[sinful laurel]

Sorry. I forgot the /s. I love being called toxic with no evidence or support. It's great

[cedar locust]

I'm reading back over the conversation, it's just easier to do that if it's over and I can pay proper attention to it

[dense root]

that's understandable but i think a lot of us are getting tired of moderation treating the instigators of a fight identically to the people who get sucked in by them

personally i feel that one person is being a jerk for no reason and another person goes "wtf why are you doing this" the solution is not to treat both parties the same

[sinful laurel]

Just to clear this up. I am sarcastic, I make jokes. But I also cannot abide people who start shit for no reason, get no pushback and then just carry on their merry way. I have to say something. I try to initially engage honestly and socratically but eventually, I will defend myself and anyone else that is also getting shit on. It's bullshit that the people here who actually try and help are the ones that get silenced along with the actual rabble rousers and shit stirrers and actual trolls

[dense root]

and like "block and move on" is all well and good but discord as a platform becomes legitimately unusable when you have too many people in a server blocked

and from a certain perspective the primary purpose of a moderation team is to avoid situations where i'm responsible for weeding out the bad actors and blocking them manually

[sinful laurel]

And yes I just used "rabble rousers" in a sentence. I'm old

[knotty tinsel]

the socratically has me more impressed than rabble rousers

[dapper swift]

If I always crit, can I treat crit multi like it is more dmg?

[dense root]

more or less yeah

[cedar locust]

Tone through text is difficult though of course being insulted or called 'toxic' isn't the best feeling. We do try and assess conversations when these happen though it is difficult if the argument is continuing below, which is why we ask everyone involved to step away and remind everyone of the server rules.

We also do not discuss moderation actions taken, so while you might not see anything happen, that's doesn't mean nothing did.

[hot carbon]

Maybe you should because from across the pond it doesn't look like y'all do anything NGL

[dense root]

sure you don't discuss moderation action taken but the same people do the same things repeatedly and the server gets worse by the day

[sinful laurel]

I've said my piece. Gonna step away for a little bit I think

[desert tree]

By the days 🥁

[hot carbon]

Have a nice day Prime

[sinful laurel]

It's...just not fun to engage with this anymore. It used to be fun to help and theorycraft and answer questions

Maybe that's a me thing. Later on guys and gals

[near path]

Block and move on also only works to a point. How many people are we expected to block? Why are we even expected to block people who are consistent instigators and trolls rather than report them for being dipshits so they can be banned?
And why is it that people who are genuinely trying to help others get shit-talked and then "moderated" for defending themselves?

[unique sonnet]

I miss the good old days when Primeval was here.

[subtle quest]

what were the last 5 masteries added to the game? I know that Falconer was the very last, right?

[desert tree]

Relatives ?

[near path]

It's my cat

[desert tree]

[knotty tinsel]

falconer isn't in yet technically 😛 I know runemaster was the last but not sure on the rest anymore

[unique sonnet]

He's the gnome version, my wow gnone DK.

[dense root]

you're right that i can't say what you do or don't do behind closed doors but what i can say is what's obvious to any veteran of the server - whatever you're doing isn't enough

[unique sonnet]

He has a big sword at least.

[near path]

Cats can talk, and type, they just don't want to pay taxes

[desert tree]

Is there a reference in your names I dont know ?

[dapper swift]

From the latest, Falconer, Warlock, Runemaster, then idk at all

[near path]

A character in a fantasy fiction series in my case

[desert tree]

May I ask which one ? @near path

[native sail]

This. I have to pick and choose when I speak in here.
The server as a whole has been consistently going downhill in my eyes since 0.9 came out.
So many bad actors, literal harassment, hell I had to deal with not just one but TWO people being openly transphobic towards me at the same time in front of EHG staff and one of them quite literally got to live out the rest of his time with the game before willingly quitting and leaving the server.
But when I got fed up and said something bad about him I got muted for 24 fucking hours. That is mental.

[near path]

Anyway, I think Ave you'd likely be better off banning most of the regulars here, myself included

Because yeah, many of us are pretty fucking sick of being shit-talked to and then treated in the same way as instigators and literal trolls

[dense root]

just in recent memory i've seen:
• pings to the community managers go completely unanswered
• one server member explicitly state that they are going to harass another and then not be removed from the server
• slurs be posted in #368953963267096590 and left alone for hours before any action was taken even after i personally notified a community manager they were there
• very blatant transphobia from community members go uncommented on by ehg staff who were participating in the conversation

[hot carbon]

And if you can’t recognize that stuff to deal with it, then you need to do better

[dull bridge]

Is there any way to remove this shadow from text or is a bug ( emote if bug )

[dense root]

like last epoch is a great game but through you inaction you've cultivated the absolute most toxic community possible and you only get so many chances to fix that before it's too late

[sinful laurel]

Known bug

[hot carbon]

Saying “be nice” isn’t nice

[near path]

Just last night I got ganged up on for "being rude" when I told someone to "please not spread misinformation" because somehow that was rude? Idfk anymore.

[sinful laurel]

Hopefully fixed in 1.0

[native sail]

This is a bug, addressed for 1.0

[torpid zinc]

If we organize our stash tabs now, will they remain named & organized on launch? ( even if we have to spend the gold to actually use them? ) or how does that work? just have to re-do everything every season/league?

[unique sonnet]

Glad your time away has restored you!

[dull bridge]

Dont waste your time answeringt that you could just emote my msg thank you

[native sail]

Have to redo it every cycle

[dense root]

how am i supposed to recommend the game to my friends when i know many of them will want to participate in the community and that if they join this discord they'll be met with this shitshow?

@cedar locust thoughts?

[icy drift]

yeah i've felt myself wanting to engage in conversations with people on here less and less honestly, i'll help out where i can but honestly it's more tiring than ever and it's not because of burnout or anything.

[hot carbon]

Yeah this server has gotten really bad. I think Days has hit the nail on its head

[unique sonnet]

Imma let them friend you first so you can warn them. Please accept the next few friend requests you receive.

[cinder fossil]

you'll have to rebuy / reorganize your tabs each cycle

it would be nice if we could save stash templates but i don't think anything is currently planned in that regard

[hot carbon]

IDK if it’s Days’ job to do that lol

[hot carbon]

You can always put in a #1123698164503949392

[native sail]

I'm with Dream, please make a post on this, I like this

[dapper swift]

For me is really simple, I see someone being bad, or disrespectful to me I just block and move on, no point in talking against walls, of course depends on the action someone does.

[hot carbon]

I don’t think you understand how MANY people have been blocked for a lot of these people though

I’ve seen chat logs

It’s literally all blocked

It’s absurd if that many bad actors are around

[near path]

Yes because you haven't been here long enough to see how many toxic shits are in the server now and the trolls are treated better than people actually trying to help

You call out a troll for being a troll, you get a "be nice" warning. You get dog piled and abused, mods vanish

[dense root]

right. blocking one or two people who suck is tolerable but when trolls and bigots are given free reign of the server the way they are now, blocking all of them has a significant impact on how usable the server is

[desert tree]

Fun Fact ^^

[hot carbon]

I literally confuse two characters while complimenting somebody and get dogpiled LMAO

[hot carbon]

I don’t think Anomander was intending to portray themself as a long time community member

But I do know they talk to a lot of long time community members

[dapper swift]

Damn, i have a few blocked for a few personal reasons, but that bad is actually insane.

[native sail]

Probably about 70% of the time I look in general I have at least half the chat blocked because of bad interactions and dogpiling :)

[near path]

Really Vlad?

[hot carbon]

I have witnessed blatant transphobia against Deias, and when Deias retaliates, she’s told to “be the bigger person, block and move on”

[dapper swift]

I really played a bit before 0.9 with Lich but barely touched the game/discord besides that and now as I am waiting for 1.0

[tame pebble]

so i failed this quest, does that mean im blocked out of this passive skill point for good?

[hot carbon]

As somebody who was kinda here in 0.8, it was legitimately a much nicer place

[icy drift]

even on 0.9 and after it was good imo

[knotty tinsel]

it's a duo of quests, you complete one and can't do the other on that character

not a huge deal dw

[icy drift]

started going downhill for real around 0.9.2

[urban horizon]

It was indeed and if we go even back to 0.7.6 this place was awesome. Granted smaller playerbase was the reason for it

[vale thistle]

that just sounds like someone giving bad advice, if anyone is being transphobic report them lol; that behavior is 100% against the rules

[dapper swift]

It is a choice, either one reward or the other

[tame pebble]

so i didnt lose the skillpoint?

[hot carbon]

There are more quests that offer passive points later

[humble cargo]

If you report them to the team, we can look into it constructively and resolve the problem. 'Calling out a troll' usually starts an argument that takes over a channel with more people jumping in on both sides, with insults thrown left right and centre. It doesn't achieve anything. Please report issues rather than insulting or attacking people and breaking the rules yourself. Not saying you have done, just saying it's better for everyone in the long run.

[hot carbon]

But IIRC the alternate option also gives one

[hot carbon]

But people DO report

[cinder fossil]

aight, i put up a post

[near path]

I mean that's great and all but how many issues do you want us to report in a day? These aren't onetime scenarios

[hot carbon]

And they have

[digital ravine]

Hi, someone knows what will happen to my current characters in 1.0?

[hot carbon]

They will be moved to legacy

[native sail]

#1161416976321744896

[icy drift]

there's also the case of people just being asses but not straight up breaking rules, it still brings down the vibe super hard but it's not like i'm gonna report them, since i know what they're doing isn't against the rules

[dense root]

imo "just report it" is hilarious advice to give when on at least a couple occasions the transphobia in question happened in a conversation that had a moderator present and the mod did nothing

[hot carbon]

That too

[dense root]

like if i see someone ignore the transphobia why am i going to believe that messaging them about it will change their tune?

[humble cargo]

When they're reported, action is taken. Transphobia and hate speech aren't tolerated here, as Ave said, we don't tend to discuss moderation actions after they're taken.

There's a lot of wide ranging statements here that I don't think is particularly helpful. We can handle specific instances and explain reasoning, generalizations like we're seeing here don't really help.

[sinful laurel]

Sorry I have to respond here. That's the thing olam, a lot of times it's not taking the action "calling out a troll". It's like what just happened here where a person will be in normal conversation and then one statement or accusation or cry bully happens and then what? So they get to say whatever they want and we can't even respond with a defense of "I didn't mean that" or " that's not what I said" or "that was actually a typo, it's ok" or "no, you aren't listening". That doesn't feel right, do you understand?

[icy drift]

and sorry but i really don't feel like it's my job to report every time someone breaks a rule, usually i'll just leave the conversation.

[humble cargo]

Feel free to DM me or the team and we'll look into this. I can't see where this has happened recently at least.

[hot carbon]

Generalizations are what we have because there are too MANY examples. Hell, we shouldn’t even need to give examples because it’s blatantly everywhere. It’s not our job to do your job.

[humble cargo]

Not your job to do anything, but in terms of making changes it does help.

[icy drift]

thanks for having a conversation with us btw Olam, much appriciated, but yeah idk something should be done imo

[vale thistle]

it's not just against this server's rules, it's against discord's rules on hate speech; even if the mods here are slacking you should still report them (and potentially get the offender banned from discord entirely)

[native sail]

Hi, I've been DMed literal slurs multiple times on this server. While they get banned from the server, I can still find the offenders on Discord despite reporting them. It doesn't do much.

[hot carbon]

I ain’t getting paid to report everything and make detailed explanations on it

[near path]

Norjay posting Aaron's videos and then baiting and mocking people who call that content bad is not against the rules. It's still shit behavior.

Messao randomly claiming I'm part of some elite toxic clique out of nowhere is not against the rules probably, it's still toxic af.

Newbies raging against me for literally typing "please don't spread misinformation" is also not against the rules technically, is it?

I can keep this up all day

This is just the last 24 hrs

[humble cargo]

Of course you can defend what you're saying, that's perfectly legitimate! But defending yourself and insulting someone else are different things. If a situation is heated and you attack someone, usually it will get more heated.

[vale thistle]

that's very unfortunate, I wouldn't be surprised if Discord is just ignoring reports until they reach a certain threshold (like 10 unique reports) or something, then

[near path]

How much time do I spend reporting this stuff? Why do I need to report it if CMs exist and are supposed to intervene?

[icy drift]

This is what does it for me, it's not when people are blatantly doing stuff against the rules, but the assholes that are just annoying

[hot carbon]

Again, we’re not the ones being paid

[sinful laurel]

Do you see how the treatment of the two involved parties in a situation like this as the same is problematic for the morale of the community? Especially when no actual rules are broken but it's as anomander is stating.

[icy drift]

since if someones a blatant troll or whatever it's easy to report and move on, but in cases like this they're using the server within the rules but still bringing the vibe down really hard for me

[near path]

I dropped a #1123698164503949392 weeks ago to strengthen Discord moderation and hand out mutes and bans, not like that was taken seriously either

[hot carbon]

So did I

[humble cargo]

It's a busy server and we're human. If people don't report issues when they see them, it makes life harder for everyone. That's not a requirement, but it's a reality.

[near path]

Respectfully Olam, I have reported Norjay at least. Zero action was taken. I have no faith in my complaints being taken seriously.

[hot carbon]

Then you need more moderators. But you’re right, you’re human. Which is exactly why you should be able to recognize you’ve done wrong

[icy drift]

It feels like veterans will always get in trouble because after spending a certain amount of time here you're destined to run into an ass that causes an arguement and in the end you're just as bad as them because they didn't blatantly break any rules, you can try being as nice as you want to these people but at the end of the day there's no helping them and their demeanour

[near path]

And I have therefore no reason to continue to invest more time in it when I have no idea if it will EVER be taken seriously

Especially given your policy of not discussing moderation actions

[urban horizon]

Yes and as humans you guys miss things. What happens when things truly pop off again? Like when we had during 0.9 launch its going to be even worse for 1.0 so maybe its time for EHG to hire more groles so you guys won't be understaffed..

[digital ravine]

Oh, so Legacy will have the content of echoes from the void?

[hot carbon]

Yes.

[native sail]

Lemme grab you my handy-dandy Mike screenshot

[near path]

This is probably the last conversation I'm having with you guys about this, because enough people have said it and none of us have felt you're listening. At the end of the day, we'll just say fuck it to the toxicity and move to a different server

[native sail]

@digital ravine give this a quick read

[near path]

You'll be stuck with this cesspool

[knotty tinsel]

It's started to be a bit of a running joke that sunday means no moderative action, which is not the kind of running joke I wish needed to exist.

Just an example from my perspective, having never been attacked in particular but witnessing most of the others' examples.

[hot carbon]

A lot of us already have

[icy drift]

I've luckily never gotten warned about my behaviour or anything, but i'm passively engaging with others on here less and less on here because we're getting more of these people who i can just feel will end up making me do or say something that would get me in trouble, but at the same time they're not breaking any rules so what can you really do right.

[hot carbon]

And when I've never seen the most active CM in chat actually do anything aside from telling people to "be the better person" there's an issue

I respect y'all but the reins on this server are very loose

[vale thistle]

if you feel like you're being disrespected, the other person is already violating rule #1 and should be getting a moderation strike; being disrespectful back towards them by engaging in an argument just means two people are breaking the rules now instead of one

[digital ravine]

thanks jaja

[vale thistle]

I agree the mods could 100% be more strict about enforcing this, for what it's worth

[icy drift]

like i can tell you guys "this guys being an asshole please do something about it", but i've been around for a while and i know that there's a 99% chance nothing's coming from me saying that

[last tide]

trying to progress corruption and just want to make sure I'm not missing something. I'm going as far from base as possible, killing boss 2-3 times, then killing orobyss and starting again same timeline. At the pace it's going it feels like it will take about ~25 boss/quest completions to get from 100 to 300. Does this sound right or am I missing a way to increase corruption # faster??

[icy drift]

which is why i never am, but them breaking that rule doesn't seem to be grounds for any real action in this server.

[urban horizon]

I mean heck.. Y'all even have beesfriends community mod progam. Make use of it here on discord

[dense root]

are you doing super low corruption shades or something? that sounds kind of slow

[dapper swift]

from what I read here the max of a corruption from a shade in base is +18? I might be wrong tho

[native sail]

I'd say wait til you have like 4-5 Gazes stacked before killing a Shade. Also don't kill Shades under +14

^ This should get you like 50 corruption per kill

[sinful laurel]

I mean hell, if the stricter rules means that my inability to stand by and let vitriolic trolls and blowhards get away with things and need to engage gets me banned too, then so be it

[dense root]

if you're doing 2-3 gaze + killing a shade you should be getting more than 8 corruption per timeline boss on average

[icy drift]

plenty of people break that rule, but because they're newish or whatever they get a pass since CM's don't seem to want to just slap a newcomer with a punishment as soon as they come through the door just because they're an ass. Instead they take the approach of observe and wait for them to do something blatantly against the rules but then they never do so they never get punished

[knotty tinsel]

As far as I know there's a bunch of community members with a semi-mod status. Not once have I seen them interfere in any ill behavior.

[near path]

Unless you count "block and move on" as moderation

In which case there's a lot of moderation

[hot carbon]

Is every newcomer expected to block dozens of people??

[flint yew]

i can say i've also been dogpiled for being wrong, but nobody tells me how im actually wrong they just do personal attacks (or as close as possible so they dont look bad)

[vale thistle]

yeah that's kinda ridiculous tbh, the entire point of a strike system is it holds people immediately accountable, you shouldn't have a further psuedo-strike-system on top of that where newcomers get a lighter touch

[last tide]

Okay, so 20ish timeline boss kills/gazes is about right then?

[knotty tinsel]

I mean specifically non-EHG hirees that have a special role denoting them as having moderating powers.

[icy drift]

I know several people who have gotten punished without recieving a single strike

the strike system doesn't seem to exist

[urban horizon]

They cannot do so on discord its purely ingame chat. Dunno about that one since mine is ALWAYS off

[native sail]

In combination, I suppose, yeah. Ideally these should be fairly quick and your echoes shouldn't be slower than like, 90 seconds optimally

[urban horizon]

Makes my IQ drop seeing general chat troll people

[hot carbon]

No, FoE, members here have been DM'ed by beesfriends claiming to be mods, but their mod status was never disclosed by CM's

There are also these issues in the in game chat

[knotty tinsel]

oh this entire discussion is about this discord server not in game chat, sorry. I know #❔┃ask-the-community isn't the best place for it but it's a metaphorical boil that needs to be lanced.

[hot carbon]

Where the mods will not show as moderators

[urban horizon]

Interesting.. Might need to fix that shit then lmao

[hot carbon]

Damn

It's almost like we all agree

[dapper swift]

Didn't they have yellow names?

[hot carbon]

[native sail]

Beesfriends have zero indication in the Discord, and last I saw none in game either.

[hot carbon]

Maybe it was improved recently but there was a time where several mods, recognized by EHG when asked, did not have any actual mod status

[native sail]

And I've interacted with two people I know to be beesfriends

[knotty tinsel]

what happened to me was someone messaged me warning me of RMTing, because someone posted a cool item in #👑┃item-showcase and I said "wow how much"

incredibly helpful that

[icy drift]

no beefriends have no identifiers right now

[dapper swift]

Ah

[hot carbon]

There's also zero automatic moderation in this server

None

[knotty tinsel]

and only later was I informed that that person is actually a beesfriend or whatever it's called

[hot carbon]

Which is unbelievably amateur. I have never seen a game's discord without automatic moderation

You'd think they'd have that if, as Olam has said, they can't catch everything

Because that would also help

[vale thistle]

tbh this is probably the best time to bring this up; stricter moderation is going to be really important in 8 days lol

server activity is going to explode

[near path]

Bro we've been saying that for weeks if not longer

[dense root]

tbh i've been asking for stricter moderation for months

[toxic echo]

Sad but true

[hot carbon]

Yeah we've bene asking for a long time

[knotty tinsel]

this is exactly my thinking

[urban horizon]

Aint no way 🤣

[hot carbon]

And anytime a conversation like this begins, the CM's stop discussing with us. We don't know if they're listening at all. It ain't helpful, that's for sure

[native sail]

I've been saying this for... uh 4 months?

[knotty tinsel]

worth noting that at that point in time item trade did not exist. it still does not exist.

[native sail]

Hell I sent in a complaint to support team about moderation in like July

[knotty tinsel]

I was so shocked I apologized profusely, didnt know how else to respond

[urban horizon]

Ah yes the good old RMT warning when you can't even buy the item 🙂

[hot carbon]

buy the account

[knotty tinsel]

LMAO

[dapper swift]

What would be automatic moderation even do tho, similar to the filter in game? because they do kinda suck even on PoE

[hot carbon]

I mean, the in game filter is also notoriously awful

[rustic fjord]

am i allowed to ask if anyone would be willing to level?

[hot carbon]

But yes, automatic moderation would block certain words, phrases etc and give automatic notifications to the mod team in a log

Most servers have some form of it

[hot carbon]

#👥┃lfg

<3

[vale thistle]

yes, though you'll have better luck in #👥┃lfg

[rustic fjord]

thank you

[icy drift]

Tbf the only message i've had filtered was when i told someone to let lagon kill them to reset the fight because it was bugged but with uh... less wisely chosen order of words

[rustic fjord]

ill go there

[hot carbon]

And in other languages every sentence will be censored lmao

[icy drift]

oof

[hot carbon]

It's rough

[dapper swift]

Also I am impressed that Discord itself has no moderation tools as well...

[hot carbon]

It does

There is in built auto mod for Discord servers you can turn on. It's not the best, but it's there.

[dapper swift]

I see

[hot carbon]

In my own server, with no moderation bot

I suspect there is a small form of this, in truth

Otherwise there would have been @ spamming of EHG at some point

[icy drift]

tbf that wouldn't do much yeah

[hot carbon]

But there's still very little

[vale thistle]

discord automod is fairly decent tbh, supports regex matching

[near path]

Considering people literally ping Justin and Judd, clearly there isn't

And also don't get muted for it, might I add

[native sail]

My favorite is when they ping 8 EHG members and then Jerle

[icy drift]

i mean tbf one ping when you first join isn't something i'd punish either

just warn them and if they do it again give them a strike

[hot carbon]

Poor Jerle

he needs a different role color lmao

[urban horizon]

When in doubt ping Jerle or the music guy forgot his name..

[dapper swift]

I think people that we have to relay on fixing a problem should be higher than EHG roles at least?

[hot carbon]

Also, every other big server I have been a part of has a mail bot

That you DM about moderation issues and all mods can see

This server lacks that, too

[faint cape]

Oh, that's a neat idea

[hot carbon]

DM'ing one bot that all mods can see is a lot more effective than DM'ing one mod and hoping they relay it to everyone else, aren't busy, aren't offline, etc

[low dagger]

Noob Loot Filter question!
My goal is to show any item with a selected affix of Tier 3 and higher, regardless of rarity.
How do I do this?

[faint cape]

I do think LE has been able to get by so far because we've been a relatively niche community, but it definitely has grown a lot... more people means both more of the good and of the bad.

[faint cape]

Simply select that affix you want, open advanced options and do >= 3 for the tier

you will also need to hide things you don't want to see, since everything is implicitly shown

[vapid hound]

like this I assume? (not the original question asker but I had the same Q)

[low dagger]

Thanks. WIll try.

[urban horizon]

I wonder if Kain fell asleep writing that Essay to address the mod concerns

[hot carbon]

Oop they're back

[grand river]

It's pretty simple. There's only the basic introduction steps to get into the server besides rules. When you mix low effort users with low effort moderators (this is not directed to anyone specific person) the discord will eventually have bigger issues on launch. It's not too late but for many veterans, it is.

[wicked plover]

correct

[faint cape]

Yep, looks right for that!

[wide sentinel]

5 min timer on all channels on 21st

[vapid hound]

can you guys also help me clarify whether "total affix tiers" refers to only the selected affixes, or to any and all affixes present on the item?

[near path]

Solves nothing except the volume of bullshit

[hot carbon]

Most large servers like this also have verification steps, yeah

[faint cape]

and just keep in mind that a filter that only has "Show" rules does nothing, gotta use some "Hide" rules or "Recolor" in there to make it actually function

[faint cape]

Only selected

[vapid hound]

yep, mine's a recolor rule and I've got several hide rules underneath it

[willow sierra]

Does this page not work or does it only work if you own the game on the steam account you sign in with? I was trying to see prices of mtx to decide if I get the normal/lux/ulti edition https://portal.lastepoch.com/user/home

[vapid hound]

ah, ok, so that's for when I want to recolor items with 2+ selected affixes where those specific affixes total a certain number of tiers

thanks gang

[desert tree]

It worked for me

I logged in with Steam

[wicked plover]

so if you put 10 there for 2 affixes you require them both to be at least t5 on drop, which is quite rare btw, but just an example

[faint cape]

Yep, or you can do the silly thing and have a rule that just has all affixes selected so you can filter by total affix tier

[willow sierra]

Reee. :( I guess it just is giving me issues singing in. Could you take a screenshot or 2 just so I can get a rough idea of prices then if you don't mind :)!

[faint cape]

I think you might need a Last Epoch account to use it, which is something you only get from buying the game

[desert tree]

Supporters packs or Cosmetics ?

[willow sierra]

Cosmetics please :)

[wicked plover]

steam prices are adjusted to your country so keep that in mind

[vapid hound]

yeah, I'm sort of trying to work out (by feel) how common it is to get X number of total affix tiers at Y level. is there already a resource for that somewhere? haven't seen it yet from a few glances at tunklab/letools

[desert tree]

They are in EP

[willow sierra]

Ya I just meant the LE point value prices on items which should be standardized

[wicked plover]

oh my bad sorry, i didnt follow ^^

[sinful plank]

is there anyway to change the enemy modifiers on a monolith? There's something extremely troll i'm encountering with the reign of dragons last boss, where when I have to run out of his big necrotic swirl, by the time I get back and can start damaging...boss heals like 25%, making it basically impossible for me to kill

I have the enemy heals when not recently dmgd thing

[wicked plover]

it's rng, there is no realistic way to quantify this and put it into numbers
best thing you can do is put an extra filter for the very rare affixes and salvage them from items so you can craft with them

[dull bridge]

Why I cant pass the Keeper's camp ? How do I fix it ?

[willow sierra]

Thanks this https a lot ! So ulti gives 100ep which is enough for 1-2 items on top of the other stuff so that seems nice

[analog spire]

You can run other echos until the heal mod expires, the amount of echos remaining is shown next to the mod in the list on the left side

[near path]

Run the two quest echoes to expire the bad mods

[sinful plank]

oooo

okay thanks, i see the number

[near path]

Or maybe another echo or two

[sinful plank]

what a horribad modifier for a boss lol

[vapid hound]

sure, I understand the RNG portion of it. my question is more along the lines of... for example... what is the maximum possible total affix tiers on a lvl 75 item? for any mod, not specific common or rare mods. if we know that info.

[near path]

Yeah some mod combos can get nasty

[faint cape]

Yeah, also definitely always avoid "Enrage"

[wicked plover]

maximum is tier 7

t6 and 7 are drop only

[vapid hound]

not my question. TOTAL affix tiers of all affixes on the item, I mean. not tiers of a single mod.

[native sail]

Technically? 28

[vapid hound]

and that's possible at lvl 75?

[wicked plover]

this

[empty rivet]

warpath or wolves for starter guys?

[native sail]

Technically, yes

Good fucking luck

No T28 item has been found, ever

[hot carbon]

Kain's essay better be perfect damn

[icy whale]

i got an woven flesh with 2 LP , is it better than a 0lp Wings of Argentus with my shadow bladedancer build

should i keep that and craft on it instead

[native sail]

I mean. Yeah. Argentus isn't good for that.

[faint cape]

The max total affixes is based on area level, kinda

[icy whale]

hm mcfluffin did put it on guide

[icy drift]

Tbf the odds aren't so insane that i would never expect one to drop

[faint cape]

level requirements do play a role in that

[vapid hound]

okay, so what I'm taking from this is that the rarity of a high affix tier count is a larger factor than I thought.

[vapid hound]

yeah, that's what I was getting at

[native sail]

I know. That might genuinely be his worst work, though.

[faint cape]

I'll get you some breakpoints, 1 sec

[native sail]

I don't expect one to exist for years at minimum.

[wicked plover]

lets see what happens with cof :^)

[native sail]

I mean, like, even triples of T6s are rare as fuck right now

[faint cape]

4x T5 reqs level 74
4x T4 reqs level 50
4x T3 reqs level 26
4x T2 reqs level 8
4x T1 has no level req

Not exactly sure how that equates to drop chance, but that's the limit on your level req even for crafting

[vapid hound]

thank you this is what I was looking for. obviously the rarity of any of those drops occurring is a major factor

[icy drift]

with 100 000 dropped, there's a 3% chance of getting atleast one with 28 lp, doable

[native sail]

....?

[icy drift]

idk i think we'll easily drop more than 100k ww items no?

[native sail]

Cyborg

[faint cape]

I think they mean affix tiers, not LP

[native sail]

Not WW

[knotty tinsel]

I've played gacha games with worse odds than this

[native sail]

Exalts

[icy drift]

oh

LOL

[faint cape]

or WW?

[icy drift]

my bad

[oblique lagoon]

are the maehlin's hubris a random drop fron ending the storms or a specific boss drop?

[icy drift]

yeah idk about exalted items odds

[faint cape]

Random drop from anywhere (high enough level)

[icy drift]

i just saw 28

and my monkey brain drew a line

[native sail]

All good, that definitely could've been clearer

[oblique lagoon]

then im getting fucked by rng l0l thanks

[icy drift]

but hey, with one million ww items dropped, there's a 26% chance we get to see atleast one with 28 ww

[delicate dust]

Moderation has been an ongoing discussion, and we've actually had regular meetings regarding it recently.

There's a number of statements here, such as that transphobic remarks were made which we didn't act upon, which we were not aware of. Every instance of this which I have been made aware of, has been acted upon.

We are working in increasing moderation on the server, I'm not sure where the assumption that there isn't auto-mod came from, we most certainly do have it enabled. We will also be adding dictionaries to the discord, modmail, and are discussing bringing our in-game moderation system to Discord as well.

One of the potential actions we're discussing is being more strict regarding heated arguments in chat. I know there has been a number of recent events where there has been arguments in chat, and people feel harassed being involved in the argument without any rules strictly being broken.

Going forward, we will be issuing mutes to everyone involved in an argument who makes any related response after we request it to stop, in addition to any other actions as called for from previous statements. This should resolve cases where players are hiding trolling within a debate.

Breaches of harassment will result in a ban with zero tolerance. Appeals will continue to be available. This also applies to any sort of retaliation.

We will issue further statements regarding changes to moderation in the near future.

I will also state that based on previous arguments which I have observed, many of the individuals in this conversation would have also received bans, so please try to remain civil in the future.

[hot carbon]

(I will say, most of them know they will have received bans, and they identify the fact that they haven't AS an issue)

That all sounds good, but I can't really say much until it's followed-through

[near path]

mutes to "everyone involved" without an assessment of instigator vs victim? Ragebait vs retaliator?

[delicate dust]

Correct. Once a moderator asks for it to stop, all users are expected to stop.

[vale thistle]

If the mods ask you to stop arguing and you keep doing it, I mean.. yeah. Everyone doing that should be muted.

[near path]

this is literally what we just complained about though? I'm A-ok with being muted for being a dick when I'm being a dick. But you mute me for retaliating against abuse, without then conducting an investigation and actually banning the instigator, then I don't think you're really doing anything to solve the problem

[vale thistle]

It's not a ban for retaliating, it's a ban for ignoring the moderator telling you to stop.

[onyx galleon]

is there a way to increase the text speed or to make it instantly appear? I would like to read the text for the story but its annoyingly slow

[toxic echo]

nope

[icy drift]

don't think so

[knotty tinsel]

if someone commits offenses and I send "please stop doing that", am I involved and also receive punishment?

[icy drift]

no, they're saying that if a CM says "alright let's stop" and you keep going, you get punished

[near path]

Okay I guess, is it reasonable to expect an unbiased investigation by the mod team into the incident? Or do we just move on with our lives and accept that a genuine helper is equal to a literal troll and abuser in the CM team's eyes?

[icy drift]

but if you said something before they said to stop then you won't

unless you're in the wrong of course

[sinful laurel]

"in additions to any actions as called for from previous statements" is the part y'all are missing

[vale thistle]

Person A: <offensive remark>
Person B: stop saying stuff like that
Moderator: stop arguing about this
Person A: <further offensive remarks>
Person B: <more retaliation>
Person A: banned for offensive remarks
Person B: muted for ignoring moderators

[knotty tinsel]

Also:

We will issue further statements regarding changes to moderation in the near future.
For me the discussion is closed and I'll curiously await these statements.

Trust has to go both ways I suppose, so I'll offer mine.

[sinful laurel]

But yeah. I'm done. I love arguing and debating and spirited discussion, and this ain't it. Sad day.

[vale thistle]

(that's how I interpreted it, anyway)

[icy drift]

yes i think that's correct

once a mod says stop it you better duct tape your mouth

[faint cape]

As long as the only thing we're allowed to be intolerant of is intolerance, I'm happy. Thank you for the response, Kain.

[vast nacelle]

Hey all, brand new to LE and loving it so far. Do you have a dodge ability in LE similar to D4? Couldn’t find it in the control settings and was curious

[desert tree]

Nope

[grand river]

Thank you for acknowledging the problem but understanding that your strategy for moderation has failed there needs to be urgent and remedial steps taken to keep most channels under observation.

Let's compare this Discord to Sanctuary which has 133K active users currently and 20 moderators online. Considering the ratio of moderators to users here and the upcoming launch call me skeptical.

I'm 47 but definitely not old, so call it experienced. I've held the title of senior manager for service experience, customer support, and technical support for more than a decade managing strategy and support for teams the size of the entirety of EHG. I've taken a year and a half off work so far. All you had to do was ask for help from the community and I would have given you the last year 50+ hours a week FOR FREE.

It's time to stop learning and start doing.

[wicked plover]

there is none currently, highly suggest that you use your mobility skill available to your class

[knotty tinsel]

most builds will use a skill with the Traversal tag for this

but no simple dodge action

[vast nacelle]

I figured as much but just wanted to ask, thank you!

[teal gate]

Hi. Came to ask for clarification. Looking at character stats (C) I see critical chance, melee critical chance and the one for spells (not interested as I'm melee build). I also have melee lightning critical chance from idols, which is not visible at stats page at all. How do I figure what is it actual crit chance?

[vale thistle]

I'm not sure you can in-game, https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ exists though

[toxic echo]

math

[native sail]

math

[toxic echo]

c menu is known to be missing lots of importantish stats. gotta math it out

yes, i said the m word

ban me now

[cedar locust]

It's Maths, mod has spoken.

[teal gate]

Math is fine, but I don't know the formula, does it add up?

[spice osprey]

can past cycle characters play multiplayer with current cycle characters?

I don't care about leaderboard, but was wondering whether or not to bother stockpiling gear for falconer if I need a current cycle char for mp

[faint cape]

Excuse me, US English is the official language of Last Epoch

[cedar locust]

In game, this is the Discord

[wicked plover]

since you are a melee build the highest value of either general crit chance or melee crit will count for you
so you have 5% base crit chance, then you add any flat crit chance increase on top of that, and then slap your % modifier on it

[toxic echo]

understood. apologies

[teal gate]

Ty

[karmic hawk]

does cast speed or attack speed affect ice barrage in any way?

does it lower cd or increase the rate of ice shards spawning

[desert tree]

Cast Speed scale the starting animation

[karmic hawk]

like how long it takes to open the rift?

[toxic echo]

yes.

[karmic hawk]

ok ty

[quaint kettle]

guys is last epoch nice to play in xbox controller? does it support controller?

[toxic echo]

it has partial controller support. some targetting or skills and menuing is kinda wonky

but full support is coming in 1.0

in 8 days

[desert tree]

Does Ravaging Aura gets converted to Fire with Void Cleave ?

[desert tree]

No

[quaint kettle]

oh nice. so there will be still optimization for controller support. does it have any patch notes for that?

[native sail]

Nop. Patch notes usually don't come til a couple days before the patch at most

[toxic echo]

nothing official

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1204439008877477928

except that, which is basically what i said

[keen arrow]

Would it be dumb to start playing now? Or should I just wait for next wednesday.

[toxic echo]

totally up to you

[native sail]

Do you want to play some now?

[toxic echo]

there is no loss of progression...and all cycle content goes to both. you lose nothing by playing now

[keen arrow]

I do but I have been seeing stuff about waiting because of huge changes coming with 1.0

Also I have been seeing stuff about seasons being available day 1

[desert tree]

A lot of polish and bug fixes are coming yes

[native sail]

One mo I have a screenshot for this

[toxic echo]

gotta post it 10 times a day, minimum

[native sail]

Fr

[quaint kettle]

wow thanks bro. can check with right now the game supports controller + keyboard/mouse at the same time? coz i play poe is like strictly keyboard/mouse or controller only cannot mix together at the same time

[toxic echo]

pretty sure you can do both for menu-ing? not super sure tbh. i dont use controller. you wont hurting anything by trying tho

[native sail]

You can in fact use both for menu-ing yeah

[keen arrow]

Are Warlock and Falconer the only masteries that aren't usable til launch?

[toxic echo]

yes

and the super secret monk class thats coming later /s

dont tell anyone

[spice osprey]

I get the general gist of cycles not erasing progression, but that asks other questions

like with the new faction system can you trade & sell gear from past cycle characters to current cycle characters?
can you play multiplayer with characters in different cycles and use their endgame farming spots?

[keen arrow]

I guess I could just play some for a week. And then make a new character at launch for falconer

Thanks for the info everyone

[stuck grotto]

thats what i did, to get used to the game/systems

[toxic echo]

no, cycle toons are in their own seperate economy.

so its either in cycle, or legacy. cannot mix the two, ever

until cycle gets shoved into legacy

[spice osprey]

with that in mind then, is there not merit in waiting until next wednesday?
if you have to redo stash anyway

[toxic echo]

legacy has its own economy as well

[errant cobalt]

sheild rush not working?

[keen arrow]

Do you think I can learn a fair amount in a week of playing? idk how long the level grind is.

[errant cobalt]

stuck at running

[toxic echo]

use shield?

[shy turret]

you dont have to do cycle if you dont want to. it's not mandatory

[desert tree]

SHIELD Rush ^^

[shy turret]

you arent missing out on anything (like in other games)

[errant cobalt]

i am so dumb XD

[quaint kettle]

thanks for the info bro.

[toxic echo]

tbh its a little misleading, cuz shield throw doesnt require a shield

[desert tree]

True

[native sail]

(Read tooltips, folks, they're usually helpful. Usually.)