❔┃ask-the-community

[wide sentinel]

even with higher ping ull probably will have better experience

[fringe lava]

okay cool. thank you very much. ill give that a try

[wide sentinel]

but on 1.0 they said it will be better

so untill then we wait

[hidden mica]

can hc and sc players play together/gift/trade in LE?

And do hc and sc characters on the same account share a stash?

[charred wing]

No

[hidden mica]

to which question?

[pastel pebble]

Both

[hidden mica]

okay, so there are going to be separate economies for hc and sc in 1.0?

[native sail]

Yup

[frail knot]

I'm just farming blessings at 100 corruption and got to wondering, is there a limit to the shade of orobyss you can have?

[native sail]

wdym?

[frail knot]

You might need to check my understanding here...

When you kill the boss of a monolith, you get 1x shade of orobyss, so if you hit a corruption node you get increased corruption. So I'm farming all the echoes, then the boss, multiple times.. so i currently have 3 shade of Orobyss. Can I keep doing this indefinitely? So eventually one corruption node gives me +hundreds

[native sail]

Oh. Gaze of Orobyss. It has diminishing returns, eventually they give you no more bonus corruption.

[frail knot]

ah Gaze.. Shade is the boss 🙂 damn. Thank you for that info.

[warm yew]

Also, eventually your web runs out of nodes - so you're forced to reset

[native sail]

^

[frail knot]

Yeah, but I've found a 'reset rewards' node that i forgot the name of.

[native sail]

I think the max Gaze will give is like mid 60s? I'm not certain, I usually stop stacking them when they give me over 30 corruption

[warm yew]

aye - but then after you use it, you're re-farming the same web until it's dead again (though this time without that node available) - I'm sure there's a large number of Gaze available, if all you're doing is fully emptying a web, before resetting it, but yeah.

[frail knot]

Similarly, can you complete lots of echoes and get to 2000 stability or so, then just do the boss a couple of times in a row?

[warm yew]

There's a max amount of stability on the bar - it stops after that

[native sail]

You can hold a max of two fights worth of stability

[frail knot]

Thanks! I didn't know that, I planned to go straight back to that node and do it again... abort that mission.

[warm yew]

Aye - it resets "completed" nodes - and then completes itself

Similarly, there's one that rerolls the rewards of 'uncompleted nodes' so that you're incentivized to find all the nodes you want, then use that one.

[frail knot]

So can you reset a monoliths echoes without increasing corruption, assuming the 'reset rewards' node is used up?

[warm yew]

No - the reset rewards node and the Orobyss fights are completely separate

[frail knot]

I want to farm the boss without increasing corruption, mainly out of fear of not being able to handle increased corruption yet.

[misty helm]

you can clear ory, then on your new web there is a node to REDUCE corruption right next to the start

[warm yew]

After you increase your corruption the first time, there's a new node directly off the center of the web that allows you to lower your corruption, as well.

[frail knot]

ok - I guess I've screwed up initially though as now I've stacked some Gaze 1 corruption node gives me +30 or so. Does that node to lower corruption remove all corruption, or a certain amount?

[misty helm]

you on hardcore or soft?

[frail knot]

soft

[misty helm]

if deathing is fine, then you can die to ory to reset gaze to 0

[frail knot]

ah thank you that's really helpful

[night lance]

Can someone have a quick look at my stream and explain to me why I dont have any shards

[misty helm]

(on phone cant)

[minor vigil]

Did you migrate from solo to not solo

[night lance]

wdym?

[toxic echo]

Bow flurry and detonating arrow are bugged

[wide sentinel]

iirc u can just port out and still lose gazes, but i might be wrong

[signal crystal]

Oh god damn good to fucking know, couldn't people on maxroll just take the build down. Like I was going nuts, most anticlimax gameplay I've witnessed.

[wide sentinel]

flurry is bugged in a good way tho

so its only detonating arrow which sucks

[native sail]

Flurry does also have the missing proj bug after the most recent actual patch iirc

[wide sentinel]

ya but people play flurry multishot without any issues since you attack 100 times per second

[signal crystal]

So is detonating arrow bug recent too or a long time problem?

[native sail]

Fairly recent

[signal crystal]

Uh, I got really unlucky then

[wide sentinel]

how so? just respec into channeling flurry+multishot procs and enjoy broken gameplay

respecing doesnt cost anything in le basically and gear pretty much the same

[signal crystal]

I'm like a dog, I like to follow a guide

[wide sentinel]

were u playing bowmage?

[signal crystal]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/marksman-leveling-guide#marksman-gear-progression-header was playing this

[wide sentinel]

well if its leveling guide i assume you are low lvl and in le u can do almost anything u want on low lvls since game is so easy

so u can pick some skill that u like and play it

[signal crystal]

Yea was lvl 45, I might respecc to something else just to test out, not a bad idea

thanks

[wide sentinel]

if u want smth that will work for sure its channeled flurry with multishot proc node, cinder strike should be ok too

and dont touch acid flask

[signal crystal]

Oh, another bugged skill ? 😄

[toxic echo]

Not bugged. Just not good.

[icy drift]

@tired pond make a new catagory

for your stash

is what mike is saying

not a new tab

[tired pond]

okay but I lost stash in the cathegory

[icy drift]

can you just try it

[tired pond]

dude I am doing it

new cathegories are empty

[icy drift]

Try to verify your files

[pastel pebble]

Did you see Mike's explanation?

[tired pond]

and making a new tab would cost be 700k so no way to do it

[icy drift]

no ones saying make a new tab

make a few catagories

maybe make one with the name of the one you deleted

if that doesn't work verify you files

if that doesn't work contact support

[tired pond]

after verify some deleted tabs reappeared in an older cathegory but with other class - can I put them out or it is risky ?

[icy drift]

should be fine

[kind spade]

can someone explain me how the factions will work?

[sinful laurel]

check the #news #news message

[tired pond]

it worked - thanks for ghelp guys

[inland sequoia]

does % global damage apply to minions

[icy drift]

no

unless it says minion it doesn't

[kind spade]

will the factions have any influence on gear quality drops?

[icy drift]

yes, cof will

[sinful laurel]

did you not read the post?

[kind spade]

like higher chance to find legendaries?

[sinful laurel]

like...at all?

[kind spade]

no im just watching youtube while playing a game

[icy drift]

legendaries dont drop in this game

[sinful laurel]

lol gotcha

[kind spade]

i watch LE vids

[sinful laurel]

help vampires man, i swear

[icy drift]

my dps is trash

[sinful laurel]

what are you building cyborg?

[icy drift]

im leveling a paladin

[sinful laurel]

oh snap nice

[wide sentinel]

not joining vk tribe?

[sinful laurel]

cyborg is a man of elegance and class

clearly

[wide sentinel]

good luck with eithical and elegant vengeance paladin build

[icy drift]

lol

[wide sentinel]

lol le reddit in flames abt warlock release

[sinful laurel]

yeah did I miss some drama about that or what?

[wide sentinel]

seems like plenty people dont like warlock "week" instead of release on 25th

[sinful laurel]

oh brother

[wide sentinel]

[sinful laurel]

sometimes I cant but help but think, who fucking cares

[wide sentinel]

i mean true, all i know it will probably will be RM level of op class

so better to not even look

[wind beacon]

hey guys, i'm new to the game and I think this is the right place to ask. Do I need to max resistances?

[wide sentinel]

[sinful laurel]

eventually you want most of them at cap yes

[steep venture]

What are they mad about?

[sinful laurel]

but this isnt PoE, if they are under cap its not the end of the world

[wind beacon]

I see

[wide sentinel]

you will have to watch 7 videos about warlock release since the creator split the information and will realise bit by bit in the span of the week

[sinful laurel]

try to have greater than 65 or 70 on all but poison

[sinful laurel]

honestly, I guess I can see how that is pretty skeezy of aaron, just to get more clicks on his videos

but again, is it worth upending your life over?

[steep venture]

Ohhh that part, the "drip feed". I don't see how it even matters lol. Doesn't change when the class is playable

[dusky kite]

It's less about this particular instance being egregious and more that people are fucking fed up with icy veins/wowhead style news sites that are little more than ad infested shitholes copy pasting "news" from reddit and milking that sweet ad revenue to the limit by spreading whatever information they have as thin as possible

I guess that if they are doing real previews of everything - like you know full passive and skill trees and such - it could be reasonable to stretch it for multiple articles

but if the total amount of new content is worth 1 press release, then this is just another typical shit move from IV

[steep venture]

Yeah I can agree with the sentiment there. I guess I'm just not surprised by any of it in this day and age. If something can be monetized, it usually will be.

[wide sentinel]

i mean the point is that its still bad even if its normalized

[inland sequoia]

can we riot

tired of parterned creator garbage

i dont give a shit about twitch or any of that shit

its nothing but porn and screaming funny mans

[native sail]

[steep venture]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[tired pond]

what is the reason of the black screen when I try to enter one of monoliths and the window where should appear a map of monos (eventually the choice between legendary and normal)

there is only black window without the map so I can close it but this is the one where my quest is needed to be done

[icy drift]

Wat

[burnt breach]

question: will my stashed items from pre-release be able to be used with new characters created in the new cycle?

[fierce ibex]

no

[burnt breach]

makes sense

[fierce ibex]

legacy and cycle are two separate stashes

[burnt breach]

cool thanks

[inland sequoia]

question:

if you die after finishing an echo

do you lose the rewards when you portal back and stability?

[icy drift]

No

If you finished the echo you can die

[inland sequoia]

hell yeah

thanks

[obtuse kindle]

what dose weavers will mean

[inland sequoia]

as you get exp with it it will add more affixes

[inland sequoia]

hey if youre party with friend and youre able to gift an item - can you craft it first?

[icy drift]

@rain grove if you meant the two new masteries then yes. If you meant the two item factions then also yes.

[icy drift]

Think so?

Test it with a trash item first to make sure :p

[inland sequoia]

just curious - if youre duo in hard modes and want to make use of shards youre not using

will need someone to test with!

[faint cape]

Should be able to. afaik crafting doesn't affect giftability

not sure if that applies to rune of ascendance though

[brave forge]

Will the beta progress be lost with the final game?

[inland sequoia]

no but it uses season mechanics

[inland sequoia]

hey when "you kill" mechanic is on a passive

is that literally you? or do pets count

[native sail]

Just you

[inland sequoia]

ty

[pallid lantern]

Okay ive done way too much theory crafting for this gaem. Ill see you all in a couple o months when game goes on sale. Thanks for answering all my questions everyone ❤️

[modest widget]

What time does warlock go live?

[surreal verge]

It's a preview, not a patch.
Wait for 1.0

[onyx briar]

Has it been detailed what will happen at the end of a Cycle? Do all the cycle characters become legacy characters?

Will there be separate character limits for cycle and legacy, and does cycle characters transfering to legacy increase that limit? Or is the character limit global?

Also what about our stashes? Will they be global and my cycle characters will have access to all the stash tabs I've already unlocked? Or is it 2 different stashes and each cycle will start from scratch with a stash with no tabs? And if that's the case, what happens to those tabs and items when the cycle characters become legacy?

[light pilot]

i recently respeced, but now i can't assign my sigil skillto my hotbar?

Am i dumb lol?

[onyx briar]

Do you have 15 points in the paladin passive tree?

[surreal verge]

1. Yes
2. Unknown yet
3. Their plan is apprently takeout-only-stashes from cycle to legacy, but they havent locked it down yet.
   Each cycle will have their own stash

[light pilot]

welp there is the problem

[hazy locust]

WTF is collapsing decay? I've died twice to this at fire lich boss twice now. There's zero indication of a necrotic spell being cast and I die out of nowhere. This person had the same issue almost a year ago, and included a video of it happening:
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/collapsing-decay-hitting-when-not-displayed/57758/2

[dusky kite]

the porn isn't even good on twitch smh my head, why wouldn't I just open a real porn site instead?

[empty agate]

Hey, have the devs said anything about the appereance slots? Are those only for cosmetic items to be added in the shop or could we "transmog" our gear to look like whatever for fashion purposes in the future?

[surreal verge]

MTX only, they plan to do transmog far down the line, but nothing concrete yet

[empty agate]

Sadge. We all know fashion is the true endgame of any game.

[zealous orchid]

what is everyones opinion on this Yter doing a WEEK of warlock reveal stuff?

kinda feels like hes just doing it to milk views tbh

[crude plaza]

hello guys, i have donwloaded a loot filter from a guide and i chose to hide items i dont need and place the rule at the top but i still see blue items,axes,swords e.t.c . What am i doing wrong? My inventory fills every 1-2 runs and the sell price isnt even worth it to pick them up

i am still getting dropped blues

[surreal verge]

Item filers go from top to bottom, and only every apply one rule, top being a piority.

[crude plaza]

so why do i see magic items and types i chose to hide and placed it at top prio?

[surreal verge]

That's a good question, check the details of the item type thing.

[unique gate]

Hey friends, quick question regarding Cycle characters. Characters created in a cycle have no access to the stuff in Legacy, correct? So do I start with an empty Stash without any more tabs? Can I just buy them basically for cheap again? What happens with my Cycle Stash when the Cycle ends?

[crude plaza]

yeah i chcked it

it shows me what i chose to hide, so i am wasting space and time. Whatever i will figure it out, thanks

[surreal verge]

Correct.

[zealous orchid]

but the thing to note here is that Leagcy characters can play cycle content they just cant participate in the leaderboards.

oh and right when that cycle starts to btw

[unique gate]

^Thank you for all the answer.

I try to prep for 1.0 and shatter/sell anything that is not needed right now

I still feel unsure what to keep and what to get rid of to not be overwhelmed with all the stuff that you gather

I don't want to keep every exalted that I find

Or another idea: **can we trade the Items that we have found pre 1.0 **?

[surreal verge]

No

[unique gate]

To the forge it goes then

[crude plaza]

again, i have on top of the list to hide all magic items and items that i dont want to see(swords,axes e.t.c) and it literally dropped me this. I feel so dumb 😦

[surreal verge]

1. it's a wand.
2. it should go on the BOTTOM

[crude plaza]

Its a wand but its magic rarity

should the rule that you want to overrule the others be on top and not bottom?

[surreal verge]

Oh.
That rule currently reads:
Hide all normal and magic items that are X item type

[crude plaza]

i guess i remove the x type and just make the rule read hide all normal and magic items

[surreal verge]

Yes

[dusky kite]

Yeah I mean if he gives a full overview of every skill and the class tree, that can be passable. But I somehow doubt that IV will do that. It's a miracle they didn't do a "warlock preview" by compiling random reddit posts full of speculation or something, wowhead style.

[zealous orchid]

i just kinda wish it was just a basic 5 min overview of the class instead tbh

atleast this way tho we get a lot more videos to watch on LE so thats kinda a +

[gentle valve]

Is there a specifc level that purple items start to drop or is it mainly RnG?

[desert tree]

Zone lvl 50ish

Can't remember precisely

[gentle valve]

Thank you.

[crude plaza]

should i save them for later or i should use them?

level 61 atm

[dense root]

use them

except maybe the arena key

arena is unrewarding and generally considered fairly boring

dungeons are interesting though

and have good rewards at the higher tiers

but you have to do the lower tiers to unlock the higher tiers and the lower tiers are pretty easy so no reason not to start now

[crude plaza]

thanks a lot for the info!

[surreal verge]

To add on:Arena actually has 3 exclusive uniques. Do not do arena unless you want those.

[lapis stag]

i guess once release games is done , everything will be reset ?

[surreal verge]

Sent to standard.https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[desert pebble]

Would you level a druid with maelstorm, spell orient or like full physical bear type of way?

[desert tree]

I like Totem with Spriggan form

Imo its one of the smoothest lvling Druid (or any primalist) has

[wicked dove]

do we know a date that the supporter packs will be delisted?

[dense root]

i don’t think so

[faint cape]

There's no date. They are here until 1.2, so roughly 7-9 months.

[desert pebble]

thanks ill try it

[dark idol]

do respeced point dissappears?

[icy drift]

Passives don't, when you Respec a skill it de-levels the skill, so kinda?

But it's pretty fast to level them back up so it's really not a big deal

[dark idol]

that's super bad mechanics. It should give you back point to allocate where you desire

[icy drift]

No

It's good

[dark idol]

yes

[icy drift]

It stops people from respeccing for bosses

That would be a terrible meta

It's a perfectly fine mechanic that keeps the game healthy

[dark idol]

well.. i have allocated 8 points to fireball and now i realized I should pick other skill. For a new player (especially first time player) this should be easy or easier change to other skill

[icy drift]

Just change

The new skill will level pretty fast

I'll Respec several times an hour when going through the campaign

[dark idol]

oh, at least I left with 4 points to allocate to new skill

ok, not that bad

[icy drift]

Yup

It tells you whenever you reach level 10 or something that your minimum skill level has gone up

Eventually it'll be level 10

[graceful totem]

DİD THE NEW TRADE SYSTEM ARRİVED İ MEAN 1.0 ?

[surreal verge]

No, 30 more days

[vocal dune]

hey all, im crashing every time i try to connect. any thoughts?

[wicked plover]

if its a connection thing then try switching servers
if its a game chrash maybe repair your game files in steam

[vocal dune]

hm US central worked. may be an issue with the US east server. thanks!

[regal gale]

The Warlock previewd is today right? Where?

[vocal dune]

now im losing connection every time i try to enter the keepers camp. so weird.

[steel merlin]

It already was, you aren't missing anything because the content creator decided to split the reveal in seven days so we got scraps

[candid elm]

Over here https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/77219-last-epoch-warlock-week-day-1-the-power-of-curses/

There's a list of where stuff is being shown here. Next week is Falconer on Maxroll website.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-1-0-launches-feb-21st-2024/61214

[pastel drift]

does the item filter still bug out? last time i tried it like 6 months ago it made me have to restart the game to be able to loot things

[regal gale]

I see. Thanks!

[opal nest]

does this meant it need 225% fire resistance to make it works?

[wicked plover]

no 150

[opal nest]

i see ty for the information

[candid elm]

You're welcome. That site is breaking up the preview over the whole week for whatever reason. Today they just have some information about curses and a 10 minute video

[desert tree]

Uncapped is the number between () if you are above 75%

[opal nest]

ty for the confirmation, i just testing it, it started to works on 151% fire res xD

[desert tree]

Probably some rounding shenanigans

[pliant otter]

Will there be a wipe or ladder/season with the 1.0 release?

[desert tree]

Have you ever played Poe, d2 3 4 or torchlight?

[pliant otter]

yes

[desert tree]

Same thing

Current characters will be Eternal, standard...

[dusky cosmos]

quick question as a runemaster: do you have the same big mana problems in the late game? i am lv 45 now and man sometimes i need to run around a enemy because I dont got mana..

[desert tree]

1.0 is a new season, league...

[surreal verge]

Slot a mana-gen skill

[desert tree]

Do you have smth to generate mana or do you have 5 spenders on your bar?

[dusky cosmos]

what is a good spell to gain mana as a runemaster?

[pliant otter]

Thats what i wanted to know, thanks 🙂

[desert tree]

Main difference here, items factions will be avaible in standard too

Same things for the next fews cycles

[desert tree]

Rune bolt, Fireball if you have the affix on gear. Frostclaw is decent

[pliant otter]

ah ok, im usually a season only player so that doesnt matter to me :p

[surreal verge]

Errr runemaster has a passive which gives you mana and ward every 3 mana-less spell you cast, so there's a few you can pick from

[dusky cosmos]

how do I cast mana-less spells tho?

[surreal verge]

I meant "Spells that cost no mana"

Like fireball or lightning blast when you have a wand.

[dusky cosmos]

thanks I will try something out

one more question: is it nessasery to use the main spells of the subclass you choose? for example: is it possible to create a good runemaster without using runic invorcation?

[desert tree]

It's possible

But you are missing on smth

RI has a lot of very good options

Defensively with CFC for exemple

It will make you so much tankier

[dusky cosmos]

I was thinking about creating a shock mage with teleport, flame ward, snap freeze, GoD and Runebolt

[surreal verge]

You could.

[dusky cosmos]

teleport for the movement and CD-Red., flame ward as a defensiv-layer, snap for the CC/shock, GoD + Runebolt for clear

[dusky kite]

not only is it possible, but it's incredibly common with nearly every other class. RM is not indicative of anything because half of it is still bugged and the other half is busted as fuck because it was seriously rushed and the balance is bad at best

I mean, even more bad than it is generally bad at this point

[dusky cosmos]

Like for me, it would be super generic if you HAVE to use these spells in order to get a good runemaster. I mean yea, its a core mechanic, but i want to get used of the passiv's that runemaster provides (30% ele damage). Thats why I am asking. I mean , wouldnt it be cool to create a GoD self buff mage who blast enemys with lightiung bolt tho

[surreal verge]

Have you seen all the ignite RMs that dont use invocation?

[dusky kite]

alright, nearly every other class except lich, cause playing lich without lich form is a meme

[dusky kite]

you can use it as a movement skill in that kind of build as it resets cooldown on glyph of dominion

for some reason

[surreal verge]

[dusky kite]

it also brings you coffee to bed and does back rubs

[surreal verge]

flame rush pop tho

[dusky cosmos]

nops, I am new to the game and just theory crafting rn

[dusky cosmos]

GoD dont got CD's ^^

[dusky kite]

it does if you spec into bottom left

which has some good multipliers in it

[pastel pebble]

Definitely

[dusky cosmos]

ahh okayy got it,

[faint cape]

Yeah, works fine. The "emphasize" option krangles text a lot of the time, but doesn't affect your ability to pick stuff up. I'm unaware of any other bugs with the loot filter overe the past few years.

[surreal verge]

it's very common, like bladedancers not using dancing strikes (Because it SUCKS)

It all depends on what you're cooking.

[jovial sinew]

when is warlock guys, on 1.0?

[faint cape]

yes

[toxic echo]

warlock, falconer, and item factions are coming at 1.0 on feb 21

[jovial sinew]

oooh oke oke for some reason i thought it was next week XDDDD

im was soooooo lost XD

[desert tree]

Reveal about it has started today and will be spread over the week

[minor vigil]

the warlock stuff is being staggered over a week

for some reason

[jovial sinew]

i thought they would show falconer and warlock like one week before mabey that is why i was lost dont know XD

[faint cape]

Nope, it's based on the major reveals schedule - there will also be a "hype week" leading up to the patch notes shortly before launch day

[candid elm]

Here, I posted this earlier. A very small amount of the Warlock preview has been posted over here https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/77219-last-epoch-warlock-week-day-1-the-power-of-curses/
They've just shown some curses

There's a list of where stuff is being shown here. Next week is Falconer on Maxroll website.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-1-0-launches-feb-21st-2024/61214

[kind spade]

is it technically possible to gert 100% dodge?

[toxic echo]

well the cap is 85%. so no

[candid elm]

Caps at 85% https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/dodge

[dusky cosmos]

a quick question. there is a node "Charged reflections" that says me and my friends ( dont have friends tho) get ward per second per uncapped resistance. What happen when I skill the node right next to it which gives me 25% Resis per Point up to 3 points?

[kind spade]

that is still insanely high

[toxic echo]

but you dont really want to get that high dodge anyways...the investment wouldnt be worth it really

[kind spade]

does dodge also work on spells and aoe skills/spells?

[toxic echo]

anything that is a hit

[native sail]

Well. You get another 75% res. And subsequently more ward per second.

[candid elm]

Just not damage over time, that doesn't "hit"

[dusky cosmos]

but it says "uncapped" if I have 0% resis I will have 75% resis when I stand inside my glyph so I will cap them , right?

[native sail]

Uncapped doesn't mean below cap. It means total.

[dusky cosmos]

can you do the math man and give me an example. I am braindamaged

[surreal verge]

Uncapped means "All your resistance"

[native sail]

^

[surreal verge]

All.

Of.

It.

[native sail]

So if something is "your uncapped resistance" and your character sheet says 75% (220%) it takes that 220% for the calcs.

[dusky cosmos]

Under 75% = uncapped, over 75% = capped ?

Thats why I dont understand it.

[native sail]

Nope

[dusky cosmos]

for me uncapped means I am under a treshhold tho

[native sail]

It means disregard the cap

Not below cap

[dusky cosmos]

so it takes everyhing over the 75% treshhold?

[native sail]

Yes

[dusky cosmos]

see, thats why I said I am braindamaged. thanks

[surreal verge]

It take all, ignoring the treshold.

ALL.

Of.

IT

[dusky cosmos]

thats super confusing ngl

[surreal verge]

OR "Whatever's listed, If there's two numbers, take the big one and ignore the small one"

[dusky cosmos]

Okay, thanks. One more question. If I go for the Runemaster, can I get the "flame reave" skill from the spellblade by putting 5 passive skillpoints in?

[pastel pebble]

ye

[dusky cosmos]

I got a question. If I got for example 150% cold resistance. and the enemy says it ignores 75% of my cold resistance, do I still have 75% of them?

[surreal verge]

What's the source of the ignore?

[dusky cosmos]

Idk, a mop / map?

Its just a retoric question. I just want to know

[surreal verge]

IF it's area level pen, it ignores the 75%. (setting you to 0)
Other sources of shred or pen will hit the 150% first. (setting you to 75)

[faint cape]

There is no "ignore resistance" mechanic. Penetration is applied after the cap, shred is applied before. It's not worthwhile to overcap unless you're scaling some effect by your uncapped resistance.

[magic stream]

do u guys also get abysmal drop rates? been farming empowered monos (100 c) for 20+ hours and only got one exalted upgrade. My char is L91 so a long way to go. I was hoping once I get to empowered I'll get like one small gear upgrade every 1-3 hours, but this is not happening. Is this normal or am I being bunished by the RNG gods?

exalted a very scarce for me, basically

[desert tree]

If you are filtering out rares you are gimping yourself of potential upgrades

[candid elm]

Are you filtering them? You should be getting a lot. Now getting a useful one is a different story

I get a lot of my upgrades through crafting

[desert tree]

A perfect t20 with a good base is super strong

[wide sentinel]

why are you farming 100c on lvl 91 character? no wonder u have bad drops

[desert tree]

Better than 99% of exalted

[wide sentinel]

u should be at least 300+ by lvl 90

[magic stream]

not filtering rares. just highlighting the valuable ones

[faint cape]

Underfiltering can make it hard to findd what you need, too

[magic stream]

at this point it would have to be exalted for me to be an upgrade

[magic stream]

what's wrong with that?

[wide sentinel]

you have like 3x less rarity of items

[magic stream]

that's not going to happen. I get melted by timeline bosses on emp 100c

[faint cape]

Oh yeah, well exalts are a slower grind. You should aim for minimum 200c

[wide sentinel]

also depending on what you are looking for, if you want +4 skills chest dont expect that 1ce every 3h lol, you would be lucky to get one -two in a week

but t6-7 health chests drop everywhere

[faint cape]

It sounds like you might have a defenses issue on your build, have you gotten empowered blessings yet? 2-3k health? Defensive layers?

[dusky kite]

that means that either your build is bad - and I do mean bad here, as 100c bosses are all rather easy - or that your gear is bad, in which case you should be getting way more upgrades than you say you are getting

Either way you are doing something wrong

what are you running?

[magic stream]

I'm not sure how to progress from here. at 100c and lvl91 I can't do whatever echos, need to be careful which modifiers I stack. I can;t imagine doing 300c at lvl90

[wide sentinel]

most likely you have some serious issues with build choices then, any decent LE build can do 300+ in full rare items and maybe 1-2 0lp uniques

[magic stream]

death seal lich from maxroll

[dusky kite]

not my most played build but it should be quite strong, are you sure you are doing it right?

[wide sentinel]

also if you have an issue with bosses, dont try to face tank majority of timeline bosses can be done almost hitless

[magic stream]

followed the guide quite closely, also I think gear is ok and defences are there

[wide sentinel]

and thats devs design choice, you are supposed to avoid a lot of bosses mechanics

[magic stream]

yeah, I learned that quite early on

[wide sentinel]

well best u can do is link your character in #💀┃acolyte and ask for help, cause no way max roll death seal build cant get to 300 with most basic items

[dusky kite]

well you can try importing your character on le tools as it's hard to diagnose over text, but if you are struggling with a good build that means you are either misplaying or have bad gear, and if you have bad gear you should be getting more upgrades.

and if you are not getting them you are either misevaluating items or have a loot filter thats too restrictive

[magic stream]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/mQkwzN0Q

[neon compass]

Lich, Level 91 (Beta 0.9.2f)

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (84)

General:

▸ Health: 1,422, Regen: 40/s
▸ Mana: 112, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 88 Int / 2 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 165% / 138% / 103% / 105% / 79% / 103% / 67%
▸ EHP: 2,109 / 2,109 / 2,109 / 2,338 / 2,109 / 2,109 / 1,948

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 405
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (72)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,103)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

▸ Necrotic, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rip Blood (22)
• Bone Curse (21)
• Reaper Form (21)
• Death Seal (22)
• Transplant (21)

Used unique items:

• Marina's Lost Soul
• Ambitions of an Erased Acolyte

[magic stream]

I'm pretty sure the gear is decent

[native sail]

Where is your health

[magic stream]

for some bosses I do close to zero damage, even with the seal

[wide sentinel]

you already missing 2 main defense mechanics especially on lich

[native sail]

Why are you so overinvested in res?

[magic stream]

do these have to be capped in order to progeess?

[magic stream]

stuck with this gear

[dusky kite]

yeah bro should have like 3k at least

[wide sentinel]

in death seal, i would say for sure

u need to cap those

[native sail]

Crit mitigation of some kind is required. Endurance on Death Seal is a must

[wide sentinel]

and get at bare minimum 2k hp

or 3k

[magic stream]

what are these capped at? both 100?

[native sail]

Endurance is 60%

Crit avoid is 100%

[wide sentinel]

end 60 ca 100

[native sail]

And like... please god invest in health

[magic stream]

got ya

[dusky kite]

what immediately stands out is that your idols are very bad, you want to fish for either generic hp idols (at least % hp but hybrid are best) or acolyte specific % hp idols

[magic stream]

awesome hints, thank you!

with the idols I focused on poison and void res

but maybe these res are not that important yet?

[wide sentinel]

also not taking these nodes on lich is trolling

[desert tree]

You don't really need more than 70% of res

[dusky kite]

undercapping res is not that big of a deal as 1% of res you are missing to cap only results in 1% more damage taken

[desert tree]

Unless you plan to push super high

[dusky kite]

you should look to replace some of your other slots where you have overcapped resist with something with poison res and replace idols with hp ones

[magic stream]

these were not in the guide. which nodes would you sacrifice then?

[dusky kite]

for example you can drop your ele res belt

its kinda shite

overall

and all your elemental resists are overcapped

[wide sentinel]

wdym not in the guide?

[surreal verge]

Is he using the correct guide.

Those are like,must take nodes.

[magic stream]

got it, I need to re-check all of them then

[wide sentinel]

maybe he is using leveling guide? im not sure

[dusky kite]

also hp regen is largely a dud on any lich build so that's a dead suffix you have on your neck

[kind spade]

Misha what class is that???

[wide sentinel]

lich

@magic stream also just to clarify how important endurance is on death seal, rn if u seal u take 38% less damge, if u only cap endurence with 1-2 affixes you will take 60% less damage, which effectively makes you 1.5x times tankier

[magic stream]

ok that makes sense. it will deniitely help with loosing the reaper form at times of more intense enocunters I reckon

[wide sentinel]

its the most important mechanic on lich builds...and well useful on other classes too

[crude plaza]

i wanna get this one by using runes of ascendance. Do i need to be at the required level for it to have a chance to drop? Or i can get it even tho i am 72 and equip it later

[native sail]

Rune of ascendance doesn't care about your level, class, or the specific base of the item. If you use one on a wand it will become a wand, it's up to chance what wand.

[crude plaza]

okay thanks

[earnest belfry]

Is it possible to level up quick by hitching with a high level person to higher level stuff?

[surreal verge]

You'll earn xp as if you killed mobs at most, 10 levels above you, but you can.

It'll just take longer than you think

[earnest belfry]

What the fastest way to level a character

[surreal verge]

That is.

[earnest belfry]

Dangit lol

[surreal verge]

Or, just do the campaign until you unlock all passive points and idol slots, you'll be before lagon.
You can then just move on to monoliths

[earnest belfry]

If you lose in a monolith does that reward disappear forever?

[surreal verge]

Power leveling won't give you those points and slots, you still gotta go do the side quests (It would technically be faster)

[surreal verge]

Yes, bye bye.

Until the whole web refreshes.

[earnest belfry]

So should you.not.do monoliths u til your overleveld for them?

Until

[surreal verge]

No, you can do them anytime.
As long as your build is up to the task.
They're open as soon as you get your subclass.

[earnest belfry]

Cuz I died twice on two of them lol

Idk how your supposed to not die when the game drops items way below your level

[surreal verge]

Huh?

What level are you and where you're at

[earnest belfry]

I'm level 47

And monsters are dropping level 20 stuff

[surreal verge]

Huh? Item drops are tied to area level...

???

[native sail]

Fundamental misunderstanding of how "item level" works

[native sail]

Level requirement is based on the tiers of the affixes first, base item second

[surreal verge]

Yeah that's a lv 40+ area.

Your items should have a good chunk of affixes on items

[earnest belfry]

Then why are they dropping level 20 stuff lol

And also why does the game constantly give me rogue unique items? I'm a sorcerer not a rogue lol

[surreal verge]

You mean equip requirements right?
They're tied to affixes.

[native sail]

Uniques have no class weighting

[toxic echo]

uniques are not weighted

[surreal verge]

No weighting on uniques and sets.

Only normal items.

[earnest belfry]

Huh? Lol it says rogues only

[native sail]

Yes. They're not weighted based on what you're playing, unlike normal items.

[surreal verge]

That's the point, the game doesn't care what class you are when dropping uniques.

[earnest belfry]

Oh I'm talking about gold items not red my bad lol

Kinda dumb that players get shafted and can't play with good items because of bad rng lol

[native sail]

I mean

[surreal verge]

I mean.

Did you craft?

[earnest belfry]

You can craft weapons? Lol

[native sail]

(Thank you, typing on phone in car is hard)

[surreal verge]

Okay, crafting in LE is akin to modifying an item

[carmine coyote]

Don't tell him about crafting, hes lost already

[earnest belfry]

Oh modifying is pointless if the game can't even drop good items for a class

[surreal verge]

You can turn the left item into the right item, if you know how to craft.

It's not hard.

(Also notice that the level requirement changed)

[toxic echo]

if you want the game to give you good drops for your class without crafting, arpg's might not be for you

[native sail]

I'm backing out, this is gonna annoy me

[surreal verge]

In LE, item requirements are tied to affix tiers.

The base only sets the minimum.

[earnest belfry]

The only good thing diablo 4 has over last epoch is looking set items for set charactera

[carmine coyote]

Kzb optimism is astonishing

[surreal verge]

Too bad, sets are dogshit here.

[earnest belfry]

Because he's not toxic like alot of people

[surreal verge]

Like, only 4 sets are used.

[earnest belfry]

I mean like items used for only specific classes

Sets are usually garbage

[surreal verge]

Oh. Le has...
Very little of those.

Uniques are not class locked to enable shinanigans

Anyway:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyT7uuV-_28&t=2s

[carmine coyote]

Seriously...

[surreal verge]

I have no clue how to properly explain crafting, I'll let someone else do it

[carmine coyote]

I liked you

[surreal verge]

Hey his the one link I have, I'm too lazy to google another

[earnest belfry]

Well thank you!

I'll definitely look at that

[surreal verge]

Hopefully with that video you at least understand the basics

LE runs on "good enough" for items, since you can craft them to be better easily.

[earnest belfry]

Fair enough haha

[surreal verge]

Don't expect great drops, just "good enough, I can work with this"

Eg: 2 out of 4 wanted affixes.

You can easily fix it to 3 wanted at least.

[surreal verge]

Hey, if they're at least willing to listen, they have hope.

I've seen worse

[earnest belfry]

And you can add specific affixes if an items has only one affix right

[surreal verge]

items always have 4 affix slots.

[earnest belfry]

Right

[surreal verge]

You can 'remove' one and add a fresh new one, if you have the shards.

[earnest belfry]

Ooooo

[surreal verge]

Of course, you're limited by Forging Potential

Which is how much you can 'craft' on an item.

[wide sentinel]

you get insane amount of loot right now if u farm fast, like some people get 80% minmaxed gear on day 3-4 on certain builds, so its just not correct statement

[surreal verge]

Please watch the video for more details it's a pain to explain the whole thing via text

[earnest belfry]

The game doesn't really give you much as drops

[pastel pebble]

You don't need a ton of drops if more than half just sit there

It cuts back on the visual clutter

[earnest belfry]

Most of it are items you cant use because it says rogue only lol

[surreal verge]

I think it depends on filter and your state of mind

[wide sentinel]

what is your point of view right now? like what is your level and what kind of content you are farming

[earnest belfry]

I did copy a filter online

[surreal verge]

Normal items have like 8:2 weighting to your class

[surreal verge]

I hate to ask, but did you copy the wrong filter?

[earnest belfry]

Ooooo you know what lmfao I hope not

[wide sentinel]

game giving you not much drops is just a wrong statemnet, you can blast through 300-400 corruption and get a lot of loot

[surreal verge]

Yeah cause you saying rogue only is super sus

[wide sentinel]

but if u farm non empowered monos then ofc u wont get anything

[surreal verge]

[earnest belfry]

Ima cry lol

[surreal verge]

He's 40+ at hertot, campaign issue

apprently

[wide sentinel]

...

[surreal verge]

Which is why I think something else MIGHT be going on here

Like the wrong filter

[wide sentinel]

go shadow dagger one shot everything

[surreal verge]

He's mage kekw

But items are rogue so that's sus

[wide sentinel]

[surreal verge]

[wide sentinel]

i dont even see other's class items when im leveling

[surreal verge]

We'll find out in a few minutes.

[wide sentinel]

maybe i saw like 1-2 but... wth

[earnest belfry]

I've never seen a mage only item ever

Or sorcerer or whatever you wanna call it lol

[wide sentinel]

well show us your lootfliter

[earnest belfry]

The filter system is also kinda confusing

[surreal verge]

Uhoh

[earnest belfry]

I will once I get back home I'm currently out with my fiancé

[surreal verge]

That very much sounds like a filter issue

Please do update

Ping me as well, casue if my guess was right I wana laugh about it

[wide sentinel]

ya tbh u can just run campaign on mage with

• show all crit/spell damage/crit items
• show all hp items
• show all movement speed boots
• hide all normal/magic items

[steel merlin]

Wait if mage only is blocked, he's been running without helmet, body armour and relic

[wide sentinel]

[earnest belfry]

I have stuff like that equipt

[steel merlin]

Uniques?

[earnest belfry]

I just generally get way to much rogue stuff

[steel merlin]

Can't wait to see the filter

[dusky kite]

you aren't supposed to get BIS items as drops in this game

it's expected that you craft on 100% of items you end up equipping or the next best thing to it

[dusky kite]

That's the diablo model isn't it? Last time I checked crafting was useless in either 3 or 4

[dusky kite]

I don't see how being pigeon holed into a couple of static BIS items is a good thing in a game that's all about looting shit

[dusky kite]

After playing for a while you can probably get 80% gear for most builds just by looking around your stash

[wide sentinel]

true and real

if u play only one class ofc

[dusky kite]

This simply cannot happen because items for other classes have like 90% reduced drop rate, you are either complaining about a tiny sample or have a poorly setup loot filter. Either way player error and you'd do well to learn how the game actually works instead of digging in and trying to argue against people who are trying to help you

[surreal verge]

As i said, I bet he copied the wrong filter

And I will laugh if that happens to be true

[dusky kite]

Which is why I never suggest anybody to copy paste loot filters until they get familiar enough with the system by themselves

Cause how the fuck are you supposed to troubleshoot it if you have no clue how it works

And have no baseline for even the most basic reality checks

Like if 90% of items I was getting on mage were rogue items I'd know something is off, and there arent many places where it can break

[obtuse kindle]

What do you take into 1.0

[sterile bane]

Everything

[native sail]

Everything. It just goes to legacy/standard.

[obtuse kindle]

what do I gain from making a cycle character besides access to the ladder

[pastel pebble]

Clean slate, fresh economy

[obtuse kindle]

damn

[fierce pebble]

hi

when next will be next discount

[surreal verge]

No idea.

[fierce pebble]

guys

[surreal verge]

No known sale plans.

[fierce pebble]

i hope its not rising price much

[sterile bane]

It’s not going up

[surreal verge]

It's not going up either

[fierce pebble]

are you sure?

[native sail]

The price is not raising. If you're in a different country and it goes up that's Steam regional pricing doing funky stuff

[surreal verge]

It's staying

Already cfmed.

[fierce pebble]

im from türkiye its 18 bucks

18$

actually fine price

but im planning deluxe to buy

[native sail]

Yeah, in USD it's $35 normally, so regional is just adjusting as best it can automatically

[long venture]

is there an stash search term for gear my current character can equip?

[fierce pebble]

30 $

[fierce pebble]

i hope next sasles going up

[surreal verge]

no

[fierce pebble]

i saw in steam db 25% discounted

[native sail]

Yeah, we have confirmation that there won't be one until sometime after full release

[surreal verge]

That was a whole two years ago btw.

(I tihnk)

[fierce pebble]

what wont

[surreal verge]

No sale or price change.

[native sail]

There won't be another sale until after 1.0

[fierce pebble]

i got it ty

[urban otter]

Hey when was the release date again?

[native sail]

Feb 21st

[dusky kite]

not much this time around as the "season mechanic" of this season is loot factions which legacy also gets at the same time, but it's unclear whether or not this trend will continue into the future

probably not as that erodes the purpose of seasons

and those are seen as the main arpg game system these days

[earnest belfry]

I wasnt arguing with anyone I was just stating a fact.

If it didn't happen then guess what. I wouldn't be complaining about it.lmfao I love this game way more than diablo 4. I'm not trashing on it or anyone but there are just somethings that could be done better

[twilit epoch]

hey, anyone knows why the text is looking all weird?

my resolution is native, settings on high

[steel merlin]

common thing, pray it is gone at 1.0

[steel merlin]

well you are complaining saying broad statements, with a very sus filter

[faint cape]

Allegedly fixed in 1.0

[earnest belfry]

Well yeah its pretty normal to complain about something when you're not happy about the outcomes lol

[distant wedge]

Quick question, I've had a few characters reach the ||"go and do maps" part of the story||, is that still the thing or has more story been added before ||grinding maps||? The last thing I remember doing was killing a ||big snake Lady||.

[steel merlin]

didnt change, wont change in 1.0, will change later

[distant wedge]

Goddamit

[steel merlin]

there are three more acts planned

[dusky kite]

yeah ngl it's a shame that they are shipping the game with incomplete story as "official release" but they are very much behind schedule on a ton of more important gameplay elements

[earnest belfry]

Is there something I should change?

[sonic monolith]

hey guys! I'm thinking of buying the game because it looks cool and I love how the devs communicate and develop the game.

I wanna know how fast the leveling is and how long it takes to develop a character to a playable state in the endgame. I'm asking because I'm an altoholic in many games and I'll definitely be playing multiple characters, but I don't have unlimited time to play. 😅

[buoyant sinew]

it heavily depends on how quickly you build experience and what kind of characters you're making

as somehow who is also pretty alt-oholic-y, I usually spend about 20-30 hours per character to try them as much as I want to? more if I really enjoy them, much less if I get to level 60 or 70 and it's not clicking

it probably took me longer when I was new though

[sonic monolith]

I'm honestly ok spending 30-ish hours per character. I'm kinda new to ARPGs, but not that new as I've played a few for a cumulative of 200-ish hours. that's definitely a small number compared to ARPG veterans, but LE seems to click with me even before it's officially released. I couldn't support it when it was on Kickstarter, but I can now via Steam.
thanks for the answer!

and do we know how long we'll have until a season/epoch/forgot how they're called here ends?

[buoyant sinew]

they're called cycles here, the first one hasn't started yet and will when 1.0 releases on Feb 21

we don't know how long it will last but the indication seems to be the usual 3-4 months

[sonic monolith]

I see. that seems pretty reasonable

[twilit epoch]

fixed in community test at least yep

yeah seasons/leagues in other arpg are usually that long, so LE will probably follow a similar pattern

[sonic monolith]

awesome! just bought the game, I'll have some fun before the 1.0 release

[native sail]

MOOGLE SPOTTED

@river fulcrum MOOGLE ALERT MOOGLE ALERT MOOGLE ALERT

[sonic monolith]

uhhhh I should change my profile for this server I guess 😅

[native sail]

Moogles are S tier wdym

[river fulcrum]

[sonic monolith]

they sure are kuppo

[river fulcrum]

Don't mind us we just really love moogles

[sonic monolith]

who doesn't

[river fulcrum]

Only monsters

[native sail]

I miss my moogle since we just had a discussion about moogles

[dusky cosmos]

what is a cataclyst?

[sonic saddle]

Offhand catalyst

[dusky cosmos]

ouh its an item! thanks

[bright walrus]

Do you know why it's highlighted in white?

[native sail]

Bugs

[subtle urchin]

anybody had the "steam is now required" message when logging in?

[native sail]

Restart your Steam fully

[subtle urchin]

ok

[dusky cosmos]

got the same

restarted stream 3x now and also hittet my screen

it works now 👍

[dusky cosmos]

does these two stack together?

[desert tree]

Yes

[dusky cosmos]

would be cool if that would be showed in the bottem right where the buffs are , like how many stacks of chains you stacked

[inland sequoia]

whats the generic monu prog strategy

like 1 2 3 do you just want stability and do the quests? do you want to get to an end corner?

[dusky cosmos]

what type are bosses? uniqe?

[weary wigeon]

For someone looking to jump in Last Epoch, what sort of content is being added aside from Falconer and Warlock from now until launch? Should I wait and play 1.0?

[inland sequoia]

jump in and have fun

[dusky cosmos]

@weary wigeon your char will get placed in legacy, so its not a waste of time playing it now.

legacy = standard in poe

cicle = season in poe

[desert tree]

Rush

[inland sequoia]

yeah but what

am i rushing

lol

[desert tree]

The end of the echo

Then get stability

Wait, are you in empowered ?

[inland sequoia]

no im just new level 50

[desert tree]

Okay

Rush echo

[inland sequoia]

whats that to the edge?

[desert tree]

Once you get enough stability , do the quest and the boss

Go in a straight line

[inland sequoia]

k

[desert tree]

On the web

The further you are from the center the more Stab you get

[weary wigeon]

@dusky cosmos is there other important content being released between then and now that would lessen the experience? e.g., incomplete story, limited end-game, etc.

[desert tree]

Nothing is release before 1.0

[dusky cosmos]

The game will be the same, just with many adjusments for example balance changes and overhales of sorten sub classes (shamen for example)

Besides that they will add little scences between each story act so story skipper will understand the story without reading anything.

[desert tree]

Make sure to go the right side mono after the first one

[dusky cosmos]

There will be no more mature patch between now and the 21. Feb

[desert tree]

Once you killed the boss and speak to the soul, choose the highest lvl timeline

[dusky cosmos]

I hope I could help. 🙂

[inland sequoia]

sweet got it

i had no idea there were othe rmonos lol

i already finished the same one like twice

[desert tree]

You have another choice to make

In Ending the Storm

The second quest you meet Architect Liath

You can choose to fight her or not

Fight her

[zealous tulip]

what site has the most diff types of build guides

[desert tree]

lastepochtools.com

[zealous tulip]

ty ty

[inland sequoia]

ooh pvt now i see

they have quests on the log

with the objectives cool

an y point to contonuing one / rerunning it

doing the next step?

vs moving on?

[desert tree]

Move on

You want to reach Empowered ASAP

[inland sequoia]

k

[desert tree]

So you can start to loot actual gear

[inland sequoia]

started this stuff at level 25

gonna go back to story and finish passive slots/idols

then im onto your mission

[misty helm]

doing my first endless arena, and its dragging on. what level of arena does it take to catch up to ~400 corruption?

[candid elm]

There's a scaling thing you can play around with here https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/scaling

although there's a note at the top for the scaling value changes over the various patches

[carmine coyote]

220+ iirc

[pliant moat]

hi, cant seem to find the answer anywhere but do debufs help party memebers as well?

so like armor sredh

shred even

[toxic echo]

Yes cuz its a debuff on the enemy, so other players and minions all benefit

[pliant moat]

awesome, thankyou 🙂

[gleaming mulch]

Hello, will there be an 'ultimate' item like PoE's mageblood?

[native sail]

If by that you mean "generically powerful item that fits into every build ever with basically no cost", not really. But we have a few items that are exceptionally strong and rare that are very big boons to almost anything that can use them

[inland sequoia]

if a party member not hosting dies on mono is the reward cancelled?

[native sail]

I think for them yes, but not for anyone who doesn't

[faint cape]

@icy drift I'm pretty sure spark charges have the damage applied through "ailment effect". I have no clue what ailment effect would do on SD since it's not like spark charge (one ailment => one skill proc), but at least at some point in the past it made the stacks count for more than one stack each (like 100% inc effect would make it take half as many stacks to proc).
LE Tools ref to show what I'm talking about here:

[icy drift]

Watafak

So the skill gives the ailment increased effect , which then gets passed down as more damage?

I mean tbh that's kinda the same thing

[faint cape]

Yeah, that's my understanding of it

similar for sure, like a roundabout way of doing things instead of passing the stats directly like a subskill

[icy drift]

Yeah I just assumed it was giving more damage to the ailment since that wouldn't do anything anyway

[faint cape]

spark charges also don't snapshot, they calculate their stats at the time the ailment ends

[icy drift]

Feels kinda redundant to have it have a special increased effect, effect if all it does is pass down a damage multiplier from an ailment that doesn't deal damage to the spell

As in even if you just gave the ailment 100% more damage which was then passed down to the spell it'd work the exact same lol

[faint cape]

It's a little odd, but I think ailment effect is just built in to all ailments, so they chose to go that route instead of a special implementation

[icy drift]

Yea

Might just be a convenient way for them to do it

Since it's kinda already there

Bet it's an abstract class

[faint cape]

With spark charge in particular, I think it would have been totally reasonable for them to be treated like subskills (sorta like damaging ailments are)

but maybe they also just copy pasted the code from SD lol

[icy drift]

Or maybe even an interface

Yeah who knows lol

I was just wondering because of the judgement talk earlier today

I'm not cooking around it or anything

[faint cape]

I would probably have used an interface in there somewhere, but plenty of ways to inflict ailments on the cat, so to speak lol

subskills are weird

I'm still not 100% sure if ailments inherit conditional modifiers, I've been treating them like subskills in assuming no

[icy drift]

Spark charge implements duration, spell, skill, subskill, intelligence ,

extends ailment

Interfaces are a programmers prison

I can keep track of all the methods I need in my head

[icy drift]

They don't afaik

Nothing does

And that was a joke btw I didn't datamine it or anything in case that's what you might've thought lol

Was just joking about how they probably have like 20 interfaces and abstract classes for skills and subskills

I'm sure I would

[faint cape]

Hah yeah, it was plenty overboard that I got it, but it is always hard to tell over text

[icy drift]

Should have added a lightning interface

[faint cape]

I think Mike said the skill trees run through what's essentially a giant switch block with a case for each node

[icy drift]

Which then extends an elemental skill abstract class

[icy drift]

Yeah but it's even worse, it's a chain of if else statements

[faint cape]

like 100 if-thens

[icy drift]

Or I guess no else's I imagine

[faint cape]

😭

[icy drift]

Just a bunch of if's one after anathor

[faint cape]

these things are why I don't data mine lol

[icy drift]

At least it's just to apply the modifiers, it doesn't do it every time you cast the skill

Basically it applies the mods and saves the skill and then just copies said skill instance whenever you cast it

Is how I understand it

[faint cape]

Yeah, that's what it seemed like, calculates it on changing the spec

[icy drift]

And inside the casting phase it takes all your actual stats into account

[faint cape]

definitely seems unwieldy to manage, hopefully they've taken it a little different route in the modern skills

[icy drift]

Man i kinda miss C#, but for some reason Java clicked better for me after a while

[faint cape]

I think that was where I was remembering the switch block, maybe they just changed it to that

[icy drift]

Yeah I'm not sure I've never looked at skill code tbh

I'm mostly interested in items

[faint cape]

C# is comfy, it's basically Java but with a few tiny bonuses that I mildly miss when using Java lol

[icy drift]

Idk I kinda like all the redundant stuff in java

It helps me know exactly what's going on

Like you got python where people just write var and I'm like wtf

I couldn't trust my computer to do that shit

Obviously I know it does it well and correctly practically 100% of the time

But I can't trust it

[faint cape]

I largely work solo, which definitely does skew my opinions a bit. I still comment the hell out of it and specify data types, lol.

Even my LE loot filter has comments

[icy drift]

Yeah that's what I'm saying lol, I feel like if I ever used python I would type just as much as I do in java because I'd just add all the stuff you can skip as comments lol

Can't say I have comments in my loot filter but I did name all the rules

[faint cape]

Python and similar just doesn't cut it for anything with any level of complexity imo, I get lost in it real quick. Also I'm not used to it, so maybe other people have more success at that

[distant compass]

is "Physical Penetration with Bleed" from "Salt the Wound" gloves additive with just "physical penetration"? for dot

[icy drift]

Yeah I feel like they're more useful for quick and dirty projects

[icy drift]

Yes

[distant compass]

ty

[opal nest]

does "Less Damage Taken" refer to both "Hit" and Damage Overtime?

or only hit?

[native sail]

Both

[opal nest]

i see ty for the information

[native sail]

Most things in LE function exactly as they are written

[opal nest]

oh ya, just see there are Less Hit Damage Taken and Less DoT Taken as well

[native sail]

Yup. If it doesn't specify it's just generic

[opal nest]

ill keep that in mind

[inland sequoia]

two questions,

and also if you do it with mulitple people does each get their own souls and gamble inventory

[native sail]

Nope, just a visual bug

[native sail]

I actually don't know the answer to this

[opal horizon]

does lagon still one shot tanks?

i have been playing mostly squish ones

can't tell

[pastel pebble]

Yes, very

[surreal verge]

Yes, please dodge.

[opal horizon]

wish i could

[pastel pebble]

Just move, brotha

[opal horizon]

no need some more better gears

[pastel pebble]

Get yourself some nice nikes

[surreal verge]

Get yourself some boots and a traversal

[faint cape]

Or tank it briefly via temp immunity or a defense skill

[surreal verge]

I'm sorry, warlock chance to DOUBLE damage on hit?

[inland sequoia]

just wanna let you know this was not true

i spent 1.5k souls

lol

[native sail]

Well that's definitely not supposed to happen

[inland sequoia]

nothing i can use

[native sail]

This is the first time I've seen it not be visual

[inland sequoia]

does me dying when the boss died

i can make a report

that prob had something to do w it

[native sail]

Def report it

[opal horizon]

what is spell damage

is it skill damage

or elemental damage

[native sail]

No, it's spell damage

[faint cape]

No, specifically from a skill with the Spell tag

[surreal verge]

LE skill types:
Category: Melee, Spell, Throwing, Bow
Damage: Physical, fire, cold, lighting, void, necrotic, poison.

[opal horizon]

why does a unique bow has spell damage when i don't see spell tag on any skills

[native sail]

Is it Reign of Winter?

[opal horizon]

yea

[native sail]

It has a built in spell

Hold alt + ctrl on it I think

[faint cape]

or just alt, depends on your settings

[opal horizon]

i see it's just that bow only

[surreal verge]

Yup

[native sail]

There is a second bow with a built in spell

[native sail]

This will never not bother me

[formal parcel]

btw, does any class have a skill, or at least option with a node, to give it both Melee and Spell tags?

[native sail]

Sorta. Judgement.

It has a melee part and a spell part

Same for Tempest but that's not real

[faint cape]

There are skills that do both, but never at the same time really

[native sail]

^

[formal parcel]

I got a double exalt earlier t6, and t7, one applies to melee and one to spell. it's an eber head

[faint cape]

oof

[native sail]

I'm gonna pretend I know what base that is

[onyx briar]

Are there any general affixes that are on the same level as Hybrid Health, something that I should be looking for and shattering for shards all the time?

I don't mean class specific stuff like plus skills, just general affixes that are very high value/difficult to find?

[formal parcel]

I mean hh gets attention for being universally applicable. Most anything else would depend on class. hybrid stun avoid maybe?

oh also type "fortification" to search for the affix with the bugged name. the hybrid crit reduction. can be good to highlight that for shattering too

[onyx briar]

Awesome thanks for the tips

[opal horizon]

nope lagon is a bitch, fall of the empire was easier

[surreal verge]

Lagon, the build checker-

[opal horizon]

i could argue differently but that's not a question

[placid wigeon]

hello guys, does this apply to all bleed passives in every tree of the sentinel or is it just all bleed passives for lunge?

[surreal verge]

"all sources" so all of them. Including chance to bleed affixes from equipment.

[placid wigeon]

so what if i have this

and this talented for warpath

what comes out on top?

[surreal verge]

Read this again.

[placid wigeon]

i did but im just confused is all im guessing warpath wold still be void

[placid wigeon]

ooh gotcha

damn im blind

also and maybe i missed this but

i opened the guide tab in game and i looked up waht time rot was

and it only stacks to 12 so what happens if i get a mob to 12 and keep applyin stacks just nothing?

[surreal verge]

It deletes the oldest stack.

So at best, refreshes duration.

[placid wigeon]

deletes as in makes it do all of that remaining stacks damage or just removes?

gotcha

[surreal verge]

Removes.

[placid wigeon]

im enjoying my void knight build so far im very new to arpgs in general i played d4 campaign once but wasnt feeling it and cant really get into poe i dont understand half of the mechanics in that game but LE is so fun i got a unique 2h sword for voidknight right as i got to the point in the story where u select ur mastery so i went void knight and am owning atm kinda cool

id be shocked if this game doesnt blow up more than it already has when it releases

[opal horizon]

lagon still bitch, reign of dragon done

[hardy ledge]

Do we know/think that Shaman will get large updates in 1.0? Think it will be playable?

[lusty spoke]

Question: Will the current progress be carried over when the game is fully released in February?

[storm blaze]

This was answered to you in general

[lusty spoke]

Question Will the game offer character customization when fully releaseed in February?

[storm blaze]

#💬┃general message

[lusty spoke]

Noted with my thanks. Moved the question here when i noticed there is a channel dediacted for Questions.

[storm blaze]

Character customization probably coming later

[surreal verge]

No, it's in their "Future to do" list

[lusty spoke]

I did not notice a direct answer. Unless you are referring to the "Legacy" character movement answer. Which I did not understand.

Based on that answer. I would assume that the answer to my question is No. and when the game is fully released I will lose everything and have to start all over.

[storm blaze]

You don't lose them at all
Current characters are moved to legacy cycle, like PoE standard.
All the gear, characters, stash will be still available

And when new cycle starts and you create a character there they will not have access to things in legacy

and when the cycle ends those characters etc etc are moved to legacy

Man i hate typing on the phone

[lusty spoke]

First of all thank you for the elaborated answer.

Oh. So it is going to be similar to PoE. Which I'm not a huge fan of... As it forces me to create a new character in order to enjoy the new season/cycle..etc.

I was hopping that I can simply enjoy the game with my current character which i spent so much time leveling.

[surreal verge]

Good news!
Cycle content will also be in Standard.

[storm blaze]

And you can just keep on playing the legacy characters if you choose to
You'll just miss the fresh start, ladder

[surreal verge]

So unless you want the leaderboard or a fresh economy, no reason to play cycles.

[lusty spoke]

@surreal verge @storm blaze Pardon my ignorance. So if i understand you correctly.

I can indeed keep playing my main characrer whaich i have leveld and enjoy the game and new content...

In that case, and apologies for not understanding... What exactly am i missing? in other words why do people chose to create a new character then and go back to square zero!?

[storm blaze]

People sometimes like to have a fresh start
Like I do

[surreal verge]

Fresh economy, and leaderboards.
Standard wont have leaderboards

(Trade is coming at release)

[steel merlin]

yeah i cant wait to get rid of my stashes and start fresh

[storm blaze]

Ofc I could just play standard but I have so much stuff there already it doesn't really feel rewarding most of the time

[lusty spoke]

@storm blaze @surreal verge Interesting...

I'm releaved that non of what you just mentioned means anything to me!

[steel merlin]

(relieved)

[lusty spoke]

Indeed, thank you for the correction.

[storm blaze]

It's a good thing we all have our own interests.

[lusty spoke]

True. I don't mind if there are other options for other members who like to start fresh, or play as hardcore, or any other function they might want...

Just as long as I can continue playing with the same character and same stash and enjoy all new content. I'm happy.

[dusky kite]

it's already playable, what it lacks is build variety and extremely OP builds

[dusky kite]

It's announced that the first cycle will have no unique cycle mechanic in the sense that legacy will also get item factions on release, and I think I saw Mike commenting that the same will be true for season 2, but beyond that we have no info. But it's likely that seasons will get new mechanics before legacy as doing otherwise would undermine the point of seasons

[lusty spoke]

This is exactly what I was referring to. Which i noticed several games adopting like PoE and Diablo...

Why force my to create a new character in order to enjoy the new mechanic, season, functions, builds... and only offer them to me after it is expired.

Why not add it to the game. Similar to an expansion mechanic. Where I get to keep my progress and character and simply enjoy the new content.

[dusky kite]

I don't particularly like it as well but if you want a real answer then that's because POE does it and POE is the standard in the market that also significantly influences player expectations, so that's why they are doing it

Maybe they'll reconsider it or have some other kind of compromise, who knows, they don't have the worst track record of listening to community feedback

[lusty spoke]

Exactly. I believe it is an influence theme. "We copy the standard in the business".

Personally. That was the main reason i uninstalled PoE.

Simply because it forces me to play a new character each time they decide to release a season or an expansion...

Imagine having to create a new character each time there is an expansion in WoW or FFXIV just to enjoy those new dungeons or raids...

I do hope they provide both options to players. You can start fresh or continue with your current character... In both cases you both will get the same exact experience and functions...

[surreal verge]

So far, their take on seasonal content is “live unique testing” from what we know

Basically a “We don’t want to drop this to standard and break stuff so we’ll use a season to test it instead”

Which I personally think its fair

[steel merlin]

well afaik most people get bored of their characters way before they have played three months with them

[lusty spoke]

Pardon me for using the same example again which is WoW and FFXIV.

But when they want to "Test" something. They release it in the "Test Environment", then they release it in the "Live Environment" 🙂

[steel merlin]

its not like in a mmo where the character is you

[surreal verge]

Yes, but a limited test enviroment can only get you so far

[storm blaze]

This aint mmorpg and those 2 games have way more players...

[surreal verge]

Break it into a full community and someone will find a way to break it

Also devs might not have the resources to upkeep two versions of the game at once

Also, don’t think ffxiv has a dedicated test grounds except for expansions

Nothing inbetween

[crude plaza]

hello guys, is there a way to change the cursor? there are times where i cant focus on it.

[surreal verge]

No, sadly

[crude plaza]

third party?

[surreal verge]

Yolomouse semi-approved

[crude plaza]

have they said anything about making something like that in game? I mean its a must in these games

[surreal verge]

In plans I think, just havent gone around to do it yet

Not sure

[crude plaza]

will ask them, thanks for the info

[surreal verge]

[lusty spoke]

@surreal verge @storm blaze @steel merlin

True, I was just giving an example.

However, i do respect your point of view.

I guess you can't please everyone.

[surreal verge]

It also depends on the devs intentions and the resources they have

So we’ll see in the future

[lusty spoke]

Question I noticed that each time i loot crafting items. I always need to click on "Transfer Crafting Items" manually each time in order to collect them.

Which does not make sense to me. Unless there is a reason which I'm missing?

[desert tree]

They want crafting materiels to feel like items.

They are aware it doesn't feel really good

[steel merlin]

It may even be changed in 1.0? They sound defeated every time they say it seems it didn't work as they thought

[onyx briar]

Idk, I get a nice dopamine hit when I press that button and half my inventory goes flying into that storage in little pieces.

Number go up = Stonks

[gentle valve]

Why is there physical resistance if we already have armor?

[dusky kite]

Armor mitigates all damage types, so the same question can be asked about any resistance type

[surreal verge]

Also armor does not stop DoTs

[crystal hare]

can i farm for the bastion of honor in normal monoliths black sun? or am i wasting my time and need to get the empowered version?

also is there a level req i need to be?

[desert tree]

Not you but the zone need to be equal or higher the the item you want

Usually if you are asking "can I farm in normal monos" the answer is
It's not worth

Unless you need a build enabling unique easily target farm able