❔┃ask-the-community

[edgy sphinx]

Probably not. Was just offering some unsolicited advice.

[pastel pebble]

Idk bro, people like to disguise their trolling as unsolicited advice

[native sail]

I mean. Economy. Promise of continously added mechanics every cycle. Like every ARPG it's going to be popping for a month or two and then die down til next update.

[native sail]

Boru you and both know the person in chat most likely to troll right now is you

[edgy sphinx]

I was not.

[pastel pebble]

🧌

Man this troll emoji kinda lacks

[lofty inlet]

i mean diablo 2 was played for years without any live servi..tude updates

[pastel pebble]

Schrodinger's troll

[edgy sphinx]

Looks more like a Disney orc tbh

[pastel pebble]

It really does!

[sterile bane]

No one was. And I agree that some ppl like to or think it’s ok to answer in a sarcastic way but to someone who doesn’t understand it, it sounds condescending.

[pastel pebble]

I like them to be lumpier

[native sail]

Diablo 2 was the only game that really existed in its niche for a good while and was the only one with resetting leaderboards. It's borderline dead now outside of modded communities that have adopted the seasonal style.

[edgy sphinx]

Never played diablo 2 myself

[native sail]

Probably better off for that. It is a solidly mid game.

[edgy sphinx]

Too old. I prefer newer game systems.

I mightve liked it when I was a kid, but my tastes have changed with the times

[sterile bane]

Always so helpful. Deias for community mod!!

[sinful laurel]

There are some absolute banger d2 mods though

[native sail]

Yeah. They deal with most of the glaring flaws of the vanilla game.

[sinful laurel]

Yup.

[edgy sphinx]

I think I'd rather play D3 or D4 instead of a modded version of a 25 year old game. Personally.

[sinful laurel]

Except they are orders of magnitude better than d3 or d4.

But i get it

[lofty inlet]

diablo 2 had the issue you being forced to play some sorceress blizzard build, because most other builds were dogshit without items.

[sinful laurel]

That's also not true.

[native sail]

I mean that is still valid. Modded Diablo 2 still feels like Diablo 2, it's very dated and you can feel it.

[sinful laurel]

People just started there because sorc had natural access to tele for season start

[lofty inlet]

not the only reason

[sinful laurel]

The only reason

[native sail]

Well that and Sorc scaling is piss easy compared to others in my experience.

[sinful laurel]

Trapsin is infinitely easier to play

Just doesn't have tele on start

[edgy sphinx]

Yeah, games that FEEL old bother me. Line Starfield. The game feels just like their games from 20 years ago, jank and all.

I wonder how long it will be before D3 feels old to me.

[lofty inlet]

farming safely with crowd control, running circles around stuff while blizzard kills, not to mention original devs just sneaked in that cold penetration over percentage damage that other elements got. it was a safe way to play. trapsin ofcourse being 2nd choice. also damage scaling. good luck scaling some physical damage dealer that easily.

[native sail]

Can't comment on trapsin, I didn't play it long enough cuz it was uh... not very fun. Sin in general feels a bit piano-y to me.

[sinful laurel]

Trapsin was def not. Only martial sin was piano

[edgy sphinx]

Does Spellblade have uniques that alter the elemental damage of their mastery spells? Like turning Shatter Strike into lightning or fire dmg? Couldn't find one at all.

[lofty inlet]

might be a bit longer honestly. it has all the makings of the zooming playstyles which people like, while some newer games focus on a bit slower experience.

[sinful laurel]

Shatter strike is one of the few skills that doesn't have a conversion

[edgy sphinx]

I see. Unfortunate.

[sinful laurel]

Other SB skills do though

[edgy sphinx]

I don't mind either approach really. I just don't want the genre to start copying the souls games like so many others. Can't stand those games.

[solemn ether]

Can you get a unique with Rune of Ascendance that otherwise would only drop from a certain boss?

[lofty inlet]

i am ok with them. i am also ok with games borrowing from other genres, as long as it isn't some bandwagon effect.

[sinful laurel]

No

[lofty inlet]

speaking of bandwagon, they recently added dodge roll into Grim Dawn.

though ofcourse poe2 having it was like 5th arpg with dodgeroll, but seems like people had short memory

[edgy sphinx]

I only got into arpgs recently

[native sail]

Okay tbf no ARPG is anywhere close to "copying souls games" and they really never will be. They are fundamentally different in every aspect besides maybe "sometimes you fight a big boss"

[sinful laurel]

Nioh and nioh 2 bridge that gap pretty well actually.

Really well*

But I feel like that's more a souls like copying arpg mechanics than the other way around

[edgy sphinx]

Nioh was a huge pass for me.

[native sail]

Nioh is fucking weird.

[sinful laurel]

Nioh is amqzing

Such good games

[edgy sphinx]

Too frustrating

For me anyway.

[native sail]

Nioh 1, imo, sucks ass. Nioh 2 goes pretty hard though.

[edgy sphinx]

To each their own.

[sinful laurel]

Nioh 1 they were def finding their formula. Nioh 2 perfected it

The depth and nuance to combat is on another level

And itemization, farming and crafting is just so good

[native sail]

I'm still very, very partial to Bloodborne for any soulslike game though. It's the only one I've found where I can go full hyper aggressive and actually win lmao

[lofty inlet]

i would agree in general sense, but i feel like older arpgs handled boss mechanics and defenses very differently compared to newer arpgs. newer arpgs basically have 'lifeline' type of defenses, nearly mandatory movement abilities, dodgerolls etc, and bosses that have these telegraphed attacks that you need to dodge or die even if you are some armored badass rather than RPG your way out of it by building defenses like in the old days. it does make arpgs a bit more active and engaging, but i think soulslikes influenced the shift of arpgs towards such bosses atleast slightly.

[edgy sphinx]

The more complicated a game gets, the less chance I have of beating it

[sinful laurel]

That's a good thing. Old arpgs didn't bevause mechanically they couldn't

[native sail]

I don't feel like typing a response to this on my phone but I disagree on a lot of this really.

[sinful laurel]

The idea of "get enough stats so you don't need to consider any game mechanics" is a shit idea

[lofty inlet]

thats what RPGs were in the past.

lol

[sinful laurel]

I know.

[edgy sphinx]

It can be fun though

Being a human juggernaut is hard to sell when you can't facetank anything

[lofty inlet]

now i would prefer something in the middle i guess, rather than farming for a year, getting some epic build and still get instaclapped by some boss attack, just because it instaclaps

obviously the opposite on the spectrum is braindead

[sinful laurel]

From a dev standpoint you can see how that negates everything you tried to design though right?

[edgy sphinx]

It's like the Avengers game with the Hulk. He's a big brute but has to dodge gunfire. Doesn't sell the experience of being the Hulk at all

[sinful laurel]

Again, playing hulk walking simulator does not sound fun

[lofty inlet]

on other hand it negates you farming defensive stuff if you cant tank a damn thing. it also makes it hard to sell differences between cloth armored mage and armorclad knight

[sinful laurel]

That's just 100% untrue

[edgy sphinx]

Of course I can. But I'm not a developer, I'm not supposed to justify that. I'm a customer that expects a certain experience and that's all that matters to me.

[sinful laurel]

So you want 20 year old gameplay mechanics, just in a pretty 2020 package?

[edgy sphinx]

Like, if a Wolverine game came out and he could die from being stabbed that would completely ruin the feel of being that kind of character.

[sinful laurel]

Sure, but that's not what we're talking about at all

Wolverine=regenerates. That's almost a tautology at this point

[edgy sphinx]

I'm trying to illustrate a point, but okay.

[native sail]

It kinda just sounds like you want a game with console commands on by default

[sinful laurel]

I understand. But your example takes something that is foundational to a character and forms a huge part of that already well known and established characters identity

[native sail]

Which barely counts as a game anymore imo

[sinful laurel]

A created char in an arpg is by definition not that

[lofty inlet]

there was that wolverine game that did reward you for being very active and you tanked shit that way. so i think its possible. i think i would argue that a lot of 'class fantasy' is usually pretty good for offensive stuff, but not so much defensively

[native sail]

I personally think you're very wrong

[lofty inlet]

i dont have a solution, as ive said before i think 'you have to dodge everything or die' is as bad as 'bot facetanking' of the older titles

[sinful laurel]

We're not saying you have to dodge everything or die

I agree there is a gray area in the middle

[lofty inlet]

thats what i would like ye

[sinful laurel]

But then you say things that seem to suggest you don't want that

[edgy sphinx]

Part of being tanky to me is having to dodge nothing because I've made myself unkillable. THAT is fun.

[native sail]

There's almost no game in the genre that even has that situation though. Like, LE hits that point if you push your infinite scaling difficulty to that, but anything with infinite scaling will do that eventually.

[lofty inlet]

i just give extreme examples, i do want something in the middle lol

[sinful laurel]

I understand the use of hyperbole to illustrate a point. I just know that hyperbole can be easily missed and misinterpreted.

[wide sentinel]

thats more like unbalanced rather than unkillable

[edgy sphinx]

Balance doesn't concern me, what I think is fun does.

[lofty inlet]

what if you could be unkillable, but didnt deal any damage

[sinful laurel]

Then again, it sounds like you just want pure unadulterated console cheat enabled power fantasy

Which like...is fine.

But just sounds awfully borinh

[pastel pebble]

Sounds absolutelt painful

[edgy sphinx]

Boring to some. Fun to others.

[pastel pebble]

But that's not really an indepth look that we can build from

[lofty inlet]

i mean it does sound painful, but if the player chose to do it then maybe why not. its like having a mage snapfreeze bot while someone else does damage lol

[native sail]

In the nicest possible way, I've written off your opinions on this topic

[edgy sphinx]

My friends and I did something like that in Crystal Chronicles when we were teenagers. It was fun

[sinful laurel]

Well luckily a lot of single player games with consoles let you do just that. Try some out

[hot carbon]

i just wanna have fun but all these mapping losers keep telling me i need to push corruption and that "the campaign isn't the end!" but i think it's all made up to gaslight me

[edgy sphinx]

I'm not sure why you felt you needed to tell me this. Seems needlessly confrontational.

[pastel pebble]

Mapping is part of the campaign

[hot carbon]

no the hot guy dies

the campaign ends when he dies i don't have a reason to contuinue

[hot carbon]

she does that sometimes

[pastel pebble]

Gael only dies in the monos so far

[hot carbon]

gael?

who's gfael

hael

[pastel pebble]

The bald hot one

[hot carbon]

gael

no the

the twink

[pastel pebble]

Gael is the hot bald one

[hot carbon]

the twink

[pastel pebble]

Gael isn't a twink

Do you mean Zerrick?

[hot carbon]

i know i'm talking about the twkink

nooo

boru pls

alric!

[pastel pebble]

Zerrick strikes me as one

[hot carbon]

alric.

[pastel pebble]

Alric the corpse?

[hot carbon]

yeah the guy that dies

[pastel pebble]

Kinda weird you find a corpse hot NGL

[hot carbon]

what can i say

i'm quirked up

[pastel pebble]

Bald Gael >>>>

[edgy sphinx]

People found Sylvannas from Warcraft attractive somehow. This isn't new.

[pastel pebble]

Sylvannas was made to be hot and her rot kept minimal

[edgy sphinx]

🤷 Just an example.

[pastel pebble]

She doedn't count

[hot carbon]

i play cultist simulator

bedding corpses as a passtime is nothing new

[pastel pebble]

Looked her up again and she's just blue?

Greenish?

[hot carbon]

[lofty inlet]

his voice was better before his makeover, but dev said that apparently its going to work better for the future whatever that means

either that is to keep the quality of voices on the same level or alric was the main villain all along

[hot carbon]

when deias and i played co-op after the visual update

the only thing i remember is alric popping up and us excitedly going "they made him hot!"

[lofty inlet]

i think he does look fairly generic now, but then again im not into guys, virtual or otherwise

[hot carbon]

i'm a loser, you see

[lofty inlet]

i just thought his old voice had more 'character'. now the only ones that stand out are zerrick and that architect lady

[hot carbon]

i don't remember the voice too well so i'm not sure i can comment

[lofty inlet]

fair enough, lets say he sounded a bit casual before, now he is somewhat melancholic

[pastel pebble]

I would be too if I was a corpse

[lofty inlet]

is he the emperor or is it gael

[pastel pebble]

How can he be an emperor of he is dead? The emperor is a lively fellow

[wide sentinel]

wait wasnt gael just some random north warrior

[pastel pebble]

He was Heorot's adopted son champion

Then his centaurgoddad dies and he goes for revenge

Massive daddy issues NGL

[grave pilot]

What happens when you take physical damage while wearing both Ravenous Void and Orian's Eye? Does part of it first get converted and reduced from gloves and then that damage gets converted and reduced by the amulet?

[native sail]

Nope. conversion only happens once. SO all your void will be converted to fire by Orian and then a portion of your phys will be converted to void and that's it.

[outer blade]

Hi doe's anyone knows if ATTACK SPEED works on channeled skills ?

[sinful laurel]

Depends on the skill

[uneven carbon]

Hi, just bought the game, its possible to swap right click and left click? I have played league of legends for a lot of years and its really hard to move with left click 😦

[surreal verge]

Not right now.

[uneven carbon]

Oh I see thx anyways ^^

[faint cape]

The general rule is that attack speed works for channeling and cast speed doesn't. Depends on the skill though, as Primeval said.

[outer blade]

It's warpath

[outer blade]

Oh ok it's warpath !

Thank for the help

[sinful laurel]

Yes

[outer blade]

nice thx a lot

Doe's DOT leech life when it says elemental leech health

ignite and fire aura

does it work ?

[sinful laurel]

If it just says elemental leech yes

[outer blade]

ok nice

And does Fire Aura apply ignite ?

[surreal verge]

No, it doesn't hit.

[outer blade]

Thx you so much guys

[normal mountain]

idk what to do anymore, the quest wont go away even tho i killed lagon twice and each was ad different choic with liath

did it athird time and didnt go away

[sterile bane]

Don’t worry. It’s 1k xp

Just continue playing

[faint cape]

Looks like a bug, but maybe try relogging and/or trying again in empowered

maybe revalidating files on steam

if none of that works, #1123698102470189118... actually, also if relogging works report it anyway with your solution

[icy drift]

@acoustic canyon I would suggest going flurry/multishot instead as without that node detonating arrow will have an annoying delay when clearing echoes.

[wet chasm]

How does 'never late' in the runemaster tree interact with flame rush? I'm never seeing the buff active in the GUI

[carmine coyote]

It might have no icon

[safe harness]

It’s bugged where it’s always proccing if you put enough points to unlock the next node

The buff icon shows up if you have fewer points in never late

[zealous tusk]

Hello, is there a list of what item it will drop in temporal sanctum? Like monday is for helmet, etc etc.

Or it is all random?

[bronze ocean]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/dungeons/temporal-sanctum/tier4/modifiers

[haughty arrow]

hiya, does %fire penetration work for ignite?

[surreal verge]

Yup

[haughty arrow]

thx!

this item states "100% bleed chance converted to ignite chance". is this true for other items? character screen is not conclusive with my little understanding

so like having thorn slinger belt with +30% chance to bleed on hit, will it become ignite?

[faint cape]

Yeah, Maehlin's converts all bleed chance from all sources (although it can't convert bleed chance that was converted from another thing, since conversions only happen once)

[proven frigate]

hello new player here

was watching a video about crafting. and on how to craft uniques into legendaries. the video then talks about how when u get an exalt and u want to reroll a prefix into something u want with chaos because its something u dont want, but instead u can just lock that prefix and add the one u want.

but what's the point of locking Up something you don't want, as an alternate way to not use chaos? or is this something someone should never do, but to lock away an affix u want and add another so u have 5 stats u want ? then possibly merge it into your legendary ?

so much to learn as a new plaayer

cheers guys !

[desert tree]

The affix you are sealing leave an empty slot. So now you can craft smth you want and not rely on rng to get a specific affix.

It a little bit more "expensive". Sealing usually cost more FP. And the glyph for sealing are rare-ish. More rare than chaos

[proven frigate]

would u only seal away something u already want ?

because as a new player, sealing away something u don't want seems pointless?

or is sealing an affix make it not transferable to ur legendary ? if so then that makes more sense

[surreal verge]

This.
Also, sealing a "I don't mind this but I don't want it taking my 4 slots" helps. Eg:Sealing a low tier resist affix that you don't really need.

[proven frigate]

ahhh that makes more sense now

thx guys

[haughty arrow]

"fire skills" can be melee, throw, spell, everything?

in my case: shield throw with fire tag

[sinful laurel]

Anything that hits and has the fire tag is a fire skill and will work to apply that ignite

[fluid wagon]

hey guys, do we know what the base damage of the raptor is? would like to know so i can figure out if the +3 flat phys nodes are worth it. only saw base attack speed on le tools https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/summon_raptor

[desert tree]

What you looking at is the Speed to Summon it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/minions/primal_raptor

Thats your Raptor

[fluid wagon]

ohh thank you!

+3 is 1/6 of its flat then.. nott baadddd!

[desert tree]

Flat Dmg on minions is very valuable

There is very little source for it

But you have a lot of increased Dmg available

[fluid wagon]

indeed, berserk seems like a must have now! i think any follow ups ill have are gonna be more suited for the primalist channel.. appreciate the help vlad

[desert tree]

Thoses aswell

[fluid wagon]

both of those are only halfway maxed i was trying to stack lynx first but seems like i should do the flat first xD

the bad boy is already freakin clappin

dang well with those flats and the berserker stacks im having 2nd thoughts on the flat nodes in the raptor tree

not bad but the raptor tree has so many value nodes

[paper fable]

which blessing should i take? 5% xp / 10% for unique drop or 50% chance for grand idol?

[fluid wagon]

i like uniques to try and find more legendary potential, but im not super experienced

[faint cape]

Are you asking about how to optimize LP farming? LP chance is (until 1.0) solely based on area level vs the unique's effective level for LP. So, the best strategy is to farm in a max level zone (100) and get as many drops of the unique as you can by killing fast and building increased item rarity as high as you can without slowing down.

The best specific location to farm in just depends on the unique you want

[fluid wagon]

to clarify, i like the blessing that gives more unique drops so i can see more items with LP. i dont have any uniques in particular in mind I just like finding LP

im not just not sure what others typically pick there, my guess is probably the unique drop rates?

speaking of which.. ij ust whiffed the unique drop rate for the 3rd time in a row 😭

[normal mountain]

i got the xp one bc u dont need that many uniques in ur build

however, once im lvl 100 id get idols

those bastards are hard to get that are actually meaningful

its sad u cant reroll the values from them or anything at all. Its very much rng based

[fluid wagon]

yeeaaahh spent 2-3 hours today trying to get the one i wanted.. just gonna move on

feelsbad

[faint cape]

Yeah, idols are bae

The other item drop rate blessings do increase your odds at uniques of those type, too, like the one that makes more rings drop for example.

[sterile bane]

Is the game lagging more today or is it me??

[abstract aspen]

from time to time it does.

[sterile bane]

It was so bad I had to turn my computer off. I think it was a combo of computer and game

I died every echo

[hot smelt]

Hi guys, I'm just back on the game few days ago after looong time, I noticed that all graphic is been renewed plus plenty of news. Also my old character are gone not sure why...

I start again with a shaman 🙂
I wanted to ask you how to leveling fast after level 60?

I'm doing monolith but someone on a topic said to do the arena? I never done it and I have just 3 keys. Doesn't look something that you can do often for leveling a character saw that the keys are quite rare to find.

So can someone explain to me how to level efficiently from 60 to 90 or 100?

Thanks

[wide sentinel]

Farm monolith, get xp nodes there. Tho it takes so little time that it doesnt matter

[hot smelt]

Thanks

One more question, I'm getting mad:
My man spell is also cold damage, why if I use those rare gloves that take away 36% cold damage is actually increase my spell of 5 dps??
Is the 6% increase spell speed bigger than 36% cold damage??

[sinful laurel]

Don't trust tooltips

[hot smelt]

??

[native sail]

It's cast speed.

It's overvaluing the cast speed, that's all

[hot smelt]

So is the number wrong or the cast speed is better choice?

[native sail]

It's probably wrong, tooltip tends to overvalue cast speed and ailment chance.

(Don't take tooltip as the end all be all, it's a very, VERY rough guideline)

[hot smelt]

And how can understand if something is good or not if the game output is wrong? Oo

In this case??

[wide sentinel]

you need to understand how damage calculation works in general aka 3 stages: flat damage, more damage and increased damage

then youll figure out whats good and whats not

[native sail]

^ yeah pretty much this

[wide sentinel]

tooltip is bs and rarely represents anything accurately

[hot smelt]

Flat, more and increased

Can you explain it is few words?

Thanks

[wide sentinel]

in your case most likely you dont have any cast speed on the gear so the implicit is better than increased damage

[wide sentinel]

check the ingame guide on damage calculation, you can do it online or in game itself

its detailed

but tldr, flat damage is almost always biggest boost, more damage is always good and all increased damage sources are counted together as one thing so its least important one

cast speed and crit can be treated same way as more damage, since they are separate multipliers from increased damage

also there is big difference between increased damage on gear/passives and increased dmg on skill tree

[hot smelt]

Is this an example of flat damage? I didn't use this passive because look small number, but from what you say is big value?

[hot smelt]

Why?

Thank you for all the explanation

[native sail]

That is flat damage yes. It's bigger than you think because that flat damage is added to your damage first and then increased by all your % and more modifiers.

So if you have a base damage of 10 and 50% increased you have 15 damage, but if you have a base damage of 14 and 50% increased, now you've got 21 damage. Just low numbers as an example.

[hot smelt]

I understand now Oo
Thank you

[native sail]

Np

[hot smelt]

And this difference??

[mint reef]

how much hp should i aim for at ~lvl80 ?

[native sail]

I personally go for about 2-2.5k for early endgame. I like 3.5-4k for endgame (late 90s, moving into higher corruption)

[mint reef]

i should really work on my defenses then, got about 800 hp, but lagoon was the first boss i struggled with so far

do i go for flat hp or vitality ?

[native sail]

You go for increased HP first.

Hybrid wherever you can (gloves, boots, belt)

Unless you're a ward build (excluding Twisted Heart), that's another thing entirely

[wide sentinel]

Increases on skill tree are almost always separate multiplier, unless its like a buff then its same as gear

[mint reef]

okay, thanks

[hot smelt]

Separate it's mean better?

[cobalt star]

Hi everyone! Which channel is the correct one for support?

[native sail]

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[ebon quiver]

So idk if this could be doable, but would anyone in community be able to create something that copies game text to the clipboard? I'm playing this game totally blind, and my current issue is the fact that I need to OCR everything so my screen reader can read it. Just the ability to go through menus a lot quicker would be a huge help.

[icy drift]

as in tooltips and stuff? for translation?

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[round cloud]

hello! Is there a timeline as to when achievements will be added to the game? Just curious! Thank you 🙂

[wide sentinel]

achievements? what is that?

did devs say they will have some kind of achievement system?

[native sail]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[wide sentinel]

hope they wont forget beekeeper section there

[round cloud]

eventually yes 🙂

[misty helm]

to be clear, all 'increased' are additive. 'more' are the separate multipliers. many talents are 'more' multipliers and thus have greater scaling potential.

[zealous tusk]

How do you guys farm for experimental items?

[surreal verge]

Beat up as many exiled mages as possible

[hot smelt]

Thank you but I'm not sure if I seen it any 'more' till now... maybe I simply didn't noticed.
So I'll give priority to 'more' instead 'increased)
Thank you!

[icy drift]

"more" multipliers are usually found on skill trees, not items. But there are some unique items with more multipliers as well. Here's an example:

Cleaver solution has

" 6% - 16% MORE damage to bleeding enemies "

[wide sentinel]

all increases besides increases on skill tree's,if the node on skill says xxx% inc damage then itll work ad s separate multiplier

[icy drift]

Aren't increases on skill trees also additive with global increases?

[wide sentinel]

no

[icy drift]

Hmm, you sure? Lol. I don't see why they wouldn't be

Not to say I think I know better

[wide sentinel]

mm tbh, while trying to find examples now all the nodes that i found that say +% damage clarify on the description that it works multiplicatively, so maybe they clarified everything

but a lot of nodes on skills say +% damage

not +% more damage

and those work as multiplier

[icy drift]

Well they also don't say increased at least right

Or?

[wide sentinel]

ya they say just % damage

[icy drift]

Ye, there is a single node I can think of that actually says increased, but it also states that it's global

So that would make it additive with other global increases

[faint cape]

There are relatively few 'increased damage' effects in skill trees, when it doesn't specify increased, it's more. Sometimes the game uses increased and more interchangeably in long descriptions, but the stat lines are usually more accurate.

[tough parcel]

Will the Paladin get one more skill to be like the other class and will healing hand get a Specialization tree?

[sinful laurel]

Eventually all classes and masteries will have a full complement of skills

And iirc healing hands is getting its tree on 1.0? Don't quote me on that but

[tough parcel]

thank you for the info :)

[faint cape]

They did say all skills will have a tree in 1.0 - could technically also mean they delete Healing Hand.

[vagrant tangle]

Hello everyone. I finally got a gaming pc again and a friend recommended Last Epoch to me since I really enjoyed Path of Exile and every Diablo game. Now my question would be how hard it is to get started in Last Epoch. Path of Exile was just pretty overwhelming at first, then I didn't play for a while and never got into the game because it was too complicated 😄

[wide sentinel]

its not that complicated as poe

[faint cape]

LE is very friendly to jumping in blind, especially if you've played the Diablos and some PoE it should be pretty easy to get started

[vagrant tangle]

I usually don't like jumping in blind. I like having at least some kind of plan

I tried to get a feel for a build I might like but I was just overwhelmed from what I found and of course also didn't even understand most of what I found

[sinful laurel]

If you share some of what your playstyle is and what you like we can give you some guidance to at least find some vids or guides

[faint cape]

Nothing wrong with that, everyone enjoys games differently - since it's friendly for going in blind, going in with a plan is definitely also possible

[sinful laurel]

And answer questions ofc

[faint cape]

And if you've found a build online, we can always give you a sanity check as to whether it's do-able on a first character

[sinful laurel]

But the other side of that coin is that the best way to learn a lot of those things that confused you is...by playing

[vagrant tangle]

Well to give you an example from D4 which is the latest ARPG I played. I loved the shapeshifter druid there

I usually enjoy builds that can be played solo. I don't mind being part of a group of course but since I played D4 on PS5 due to the lack of a gaming PC, I mostly played solo because communicating was a pain without a keyboard

[sinful laurel]

Well I am not a primalist player but I can tell you that primalist here is d4 druid on steroids

You can shape shift, play with minions, shapeshift and have minions that do things when you do things, play just minions, play a caster, play a caster with minions.

[faint cape]

To add to that, outside some super-niche meme builds, all builds can be played solo

[vagrant tangle]

you have a guide for that? and is that beginner friendly / good for levelling?

[sinful laurel]

I don't as again I'm not a primalist player. But let me ask. Do you like the melee shapeshift playstyle? Like brawler werevear?

[vagrant tangle]

well I liked it in D4 but preferred the Thunder Wolf. Not sure if you played D4 and know what I'm referring to though

[sinful laurel]

I do. And you can do that here too

Although that playstyle is probably better not as a bear but as a swarm blade. But again, I'm no expert. You should ask in #🐺┃primalist

Give them some of this info on what you want

[vagrant tangle]

will do that thank you very much though. Do you have any other general beginner tips?

[sinful laurel]

I would recommend watching a crafting guide if you don't want to go in blind.

Crafting is a huge part of the game and is very rewarding once you understand it

Other than that, just find a build or guide and loosely follow it. Take your time and have fun. And if you have questions, check lastepochtools.com

[misty helm]

yes, i think this was just a holdover that has been corrected (as far as i can see). a good measurement of progress in early access.

[amber void]

out of curiosity, did they change what items can have armor affixes?

[icy drift]

maybe a long time ago, but not recently

[amber void]

i have a ring with added armour, not sure since when

[icy drift]

ah that's a bug

some rings got converted into having an armour suffix a long time ago when anathor affix got removed from their table, but they can also drop rarely

with armour

[faint cape]

Rings with potion finding had that stat changed to added armor, since potion find was removed from rings

Yeah, theoretically it isn't and never has been a valid affix on rings, but apparently it can rarely appear as a drop-only thing

[icy drift]

yeah i've dropped one, hopefully it'll get fixed so people don't cry about it after release when they realize that someone might drop a ring with armour that they can't get their hands on

[amber void]

the list of gear for added armour doesn't include rings tho

[icy drift]

yes

like we said, it's a bug

[faint cape]

Well, bug/legacy item

[icy drift]

yeah depends if it dropped now or got converted

[faint cape]

I've got this one sitting around just waiting for a good armor scaling build to exist...

[icy drift]

very nice

i think i have something similar

with exalted armour

[faint cape]

Yeah, sadly it'll never be a thing in-cycle, but we'll have our silly stuff in legacy mode lol

[icy drift]

yup, kinda sad about the fact that they will retroactively change items if they get changed, no legacy uniques / items normally (unless they do something like this)

but oh well, it doesnt affect me since i won't be playing legacy

but it like having stuff like that

[faint cape]

I actually kinda prefer the anti-legacy thing, put legacy mode in a weird spot when there's mega-busted things in it

[icy drift]

yeah that's true, i just don't really care about the legacy mode balance since i won't play on it

but i can see why legacy players would appriciate it

[faint cape]

the armor rings are super minor compared to some things that exist in similar games

[sinful laurel]

Ditto. I love the reset

[icy drift]

oh yeah, poe has some insane items that you can't make anymore

[faint cape]

I've actually got some other weird legacy items in LE already, like

[icy drift]

isn't that just a one-shot item?

[faint cape]

The actual one-shot item is a dagger, there was a bug that caused it to be a staff though for a while

[icy drift]

ahhh

yeah i was about to say i remember that affix

that's neat

useless af

but neat

[sinful laurel]

Trophy case shit

[icy drift]

there's also the 0 WW uniques right

i never got one to drop sadly

[faint cape]

Yup, I have all the relics with 0 WW, none of the others though sadly

[vagrant tangle]

I looked around some more and was wondering if there is something akin to a Whirlwind Barb or Hammerdin from D2 in LE?

[sinful laurel]

Sentinel has both

Warpath is spin to win in LE

And sent has several variants on hammers

[vagrant tangle]

Have to say I'm pretty sure I would probably prefer either Sentinel or Primalist to get started

[sinful laurel]

Both have great builds to start out with

[hot smelt]

Guys what about increased cast speed? With the 2 rare weapons I'm having 1770dps and is very fast cast, with two hands staff is slower cast speed but 2160dps and I can't ignore the 165% increased spell damage...
Is even this a fake output or in this case the staff is better?

[icy drift]

staff is better

[desert tree]

What skill are you playing?

[hot smelt]

Sword
also have +6 spell damage

[icy drift]

it has a lot more flat damage on the base and a lot more increased damage

[icy drift]

the sword doesn't really make sense to me

yeah staff is better

[hot smelt]

Ok thank you 🥰

[desert tree]

Staff is better yeah

And there is staff synergie in ice thorn iirc

Like no mana cost

[hot smelt]

The only thing is with the sword is very fast in cast speed... I'm not sure if I'm doing more damage like this in terms of time

[icy drift]

you are

[desert tree]

Pretty sure the staff give you more dmg

[icy drift]

it might feel worse though

but the staff is more damage per second

[hot smelt]

Ok cool thanks again ^^

[faint cape]

The sword doesn't have any cast speed effects on it, attack speed doesn't help casting

[icy drift]

yeah that's what confused me too, how is the sword even close to the other two

[desert tree]

I think it's because they are dw sword and wand

Maybe

[icy drift]

i thought primalist dw was axe though?

or is it sword and axe

[desert tree]

Sword and axe

[icy drift]

ah

imagine playing primalist

[hot smelt]

Sorry the wand has the cast speed

[icy drift]

yeah staff is still far better

[icy drift]

unless you want to have something in off-hand

[hot smelt]

I can see, slower but when hit it take bigger portion of hp from enemies

[vagrant tangle]

Is there a way to swap movement and standard attack?

[wide sentinel]

people should really stop looking at dps tooltip

imo at this point its proven that it brongs more confusion than any good

[sinful laurel]

I would be totally fine if it just didn't exist

[wide sentinel]

same

people were begging so much for it

only to get mislead confused and forced to ask questions

i never even looked at my dps tooltips besides on warpath build, which i looked at and had no idea what those numbers even mean

[sinful laurel]

Yup ditto

[icy drift]

tbf if you know enough about it it can be helpful

like on some skills, if used a certain way, the dps tooltip is actually accurate

but 95% of the time it's not

[wide sentinel]

like for example on sentinel there is not even 1 skill that has accurate dps tooltip

[icy drift]

the only one i can for sure say is accurate is hit shatter strike, dot shatter strike is prob busted

[wide sentinel]

hammers enrya version is the closest to accurate but it is not since it doesnt count shred

[icy drift]

the reason i know is because i was able to get the dummies max hp by killing it before tunk confirmed it to be 1 billion

and every time i make a dps change the tooltip changes the expected amount

but yeah very few skills are actually accurate

[wide sentinel]

i dont think it can be accurate cause it doesnt count armor shred, which is enemy debuff

[icy drift]

i didn't have any at the time

but yes

[wide sentinel]

oh then yes

[icy drift]

tbf technically the armour shred shouldn't be reflected in the skills tooltip dps imo, maybe for someone who's clueless it could be nice but the game can't possibly know how many stacks you're getting on your average enemy, it'd have to treat it like the enemy has infinite hp and you have infinite mana and are just perma holding down the ability on them or something lol

which would make it always wrong

as it is now you can just observe the amount of stacks you're applying and calculate it accordingly, if we get a PoB type thing you'd be able to plug it in there

[wide sentinel]

well i would disagree cause dps is literally damage per second, and should be measured as either your character(or simulation of your character) hitting dummy over xxx time, then avaraged

[icy drift]

yeah but what amount of time, with what damage uptime and so on

it'd make it literally always wrong

guaranteed

[wide sentinel]

i mean some games have dynamic dps dummies, you just hit them and they show your dps every second, if you dont hit dummy it resets after 3-5 seconds

sounds pretty straighforward to me

[icy drift]

like i don't even think ignites and such should be reflected, since they're easy to calculate on your own if you just know their total damage and look at the amount of stacks you're getting on the enemy

[icy drift]

devs have said that they explicitly don't want to have this, so we're never gonna get it

same on tooltip i assume

[wide sentinel]

well thats the only accurate dps version imo, because it takes in consideration everything including players rotation/skill

as for devs...well i dont really care abt tooltips but i saw dozens of people coming here all confused because they put skill points or items in their builds which should buff damage but dont see any dps tooltip changes

[icy drift]

if the tooltip was made like how I'm suggestion you'd atleast know the dps of the skill itself while holding it down on an enemy, if you want to know your boss dps you can go to a dummy and see the amount of ailments you're applying and calculate it accordingly, if you want to know for a normal enemy you can go kill one and check how many hits it takes. yes it's a more manual way of doing it but it's by far the most accurate we can get without having a dummy just spitting out our dps for us, which we won't get

i just want accuracy

since otherwise tooltips are useless like they are now

[wide sentinel]

well they dug their grave making absurd amount of conditional nodes that are never taken into dps calculation

[icy drift]

the entire reason they're shit is because they're trying to do this bs with assuming how much of stuff you're applying

yeah true

that's why i'm saying just have 0 conditionals in the dps calculation

[wide sentinel]

damage to full life, damage to low life, damage to rare/bosses, damage to pierced enemies

[icy drift]

make the player calculate it themselves

[wide sentinel]

there are countless nodes like that

[desert tree]

No

[icy drift]

like it gives me a base dps and i can go "is this node working in this case? yes? then let me multiply by it"

and so on

the game doing it for me will always end up going wrong no matter how smart they try to be about it

unless they give us a dummy that spits out the dps it's taking

[wide sentinel]

well thats why you will see people coming in chat saying i took 5/5 nodes on skill tree but my tooltip didnt change, is it bugged?

people dont tend to think much abt it

[icy drift]

let them then

they already do as is

it'll make no difference

half of them are asking why it's changing their dps so little/much because the dps calc is busted with them lol

and the other half are asking why it's not changing it at all

they could just put a little

this won't be reflected in the tooltip dps

or something along those lines on the nodes

[wide sentinel]

or delete tooltip

[icy drift]

but it's legit useful if you know how to use it

and everyone that doesn't know how to use it would revolt because they think they know how to use it

dunning kruger and all that

[sinful laurel]

Huge if

[wide sentinel]

but is it tho, i mean maybe on some builds, but tbh if you know how damage works you know whcih item better without any tooltips

[icy drift]

everyone assumes they know how to use it

mmm, there are some close cases tbh

[wide sentinel]

i would prefer if LE tools had good tooltips, that would be way more helpful cause you can theorycraft ahead

testing all possible scenarious

[icy drift]

yup

there is the Leo project that i think will eventually come out with a PoB style thing that our grandchildren can use

[sinful laurel]

Oh no, it's called the Leo project

[icy drift]

ikr lol

[sinful laurel]

Man gets an even bigger ego now

[icy drift]

cursed

[sinful laurel]

Good thing he never checks this channel 😉

[icy drift]

gotem

[faint cape]

Yep... thought about making something like this myself. Decided it wasn't healthy. lol

Same reason why devs didn't give us an auto-calculating dummy, people get too caught up in it

[hot smelt]

Thanks you guys, I understood that till now I was doing wrong. I still need to check the damage formulas but for now im simply asking you what is the visual easiest way for quick check if a gear/weapon/skill make a change in the damage output? Dummy?

[icy drift]

yeah dummy if you're able to see the damage numbers

[icy drift]

@coarse parcel yo

could you link me your character please?

[coarse parcel]

how do I do that ?

[icy drift]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Cyborgwars/character/Lightningslapper

replace cyborgwars with your account name and lightningslapper with your character name

in the url

[coarse parcel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Araym88/character/RunicMage

[icy drift]

perfect, one sec while i take a look

[coarse parcel]

I'm following this guy's build - > Perry the Pig

1st build with wands

[native sail]

Perry builds are usually pretty solid

[icy drift]

oh could you link the guide

yea

[coarse parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7dJDEt8tAo&t=1128s

[icy drift]

tbh i don't see any major issues

[coarse parcel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/YQWOKP0Q

[neon compass]

Runemaster, Level 100 (Beta 0.9.2)

General:

▸ Health: 988, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 127, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 321%, Regen: 43/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 54 Int / 4 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 59% / 65% / 59% / 17% / 77% / 21% / 26%
▸ EHP: 1,054 / 1,113 / 1,054 / 838 / 1,228 / 795 / 824

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 193
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (22)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (834)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (20)
• Flame Rush (20)
• Runic Invocation (20)
• Flame Ward (20)
• Static Orb (20)

Used unique items:

• Snowdrift
• Frostbite Shackles
• Throne of Ambition

This build has a guide:

Frostbite Frost Claw | Three Build Planners | 0.9.2 by Perry the Pig

[icy drift]

your helmet and catalyst could use an upgrade

[coarse parcel]

wanna hop on vc ?

[icy drift]

sure

[native sail]

You might be feeling a little bit of missing ward retention since you lack Shackles (and I guess some DPS difference, but nothing crazy I'd wager)

[icy drift]

@coarse parcel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyT7uuV-_28&t=1068s

[icy drift]

https://pastebin.com/Am4rUi3i

[topaz musk]

Anyone know how to get your kickstarter rewards?

[soft jay]

Is there a loot filter i should apply as a beginner? I'm kinda new to ARPGs as a whole, only finishing diablo 3, and i've heard loot filters are kinda necessary but I never messed with one before

[zealous tusk]

Why is it everytime I use a portal i will come back in end of time map? Not in monolith area?

[fluid wagon]

if i use arek's bones as a beastmaster and im limited to one companion it's fine right? cause the arek's flesh is a minion which is different than a companion? follow up.. the flesh minion wouldnt get any of my aspects since those are for "companions"?

[safe harness]

contact support

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[surreal verge]

Correct,correct

[topaz musk]

Any idea where I should be sending the support ticket? I assume account issues, but what type of account issue?

[surreal verge]

(But why use that unique?)

[fluid wagon]

thanks!

im probably not going to.. xD

it could be a good armor shred source for .. attacking wolves i guess but meh. probly not gonna use. i was excited before i realized my aspects wouldnt apply

the other unique im eyeing is hakkar's phoenix. not sure how i can get my raptor killed for that sweet sweet +100 flat though 🙌

we'll see 👀

[safe harness]

I don't think it matters that much, but yeah I'd do account issue other. Make sure to include your kickstarter info. I forget what they all require so they'll likely ask for whatever is missing

[vagrant tangle]

How does respeccing work exactly? Can I just respec everything or are there exceptions?

[fluid wagon]

everything but your mastery

[hot smelt]

Guys where I can get a loot filter ready done? I'm level 70 so something good for my shaman character, thanks!

[desert tree]

You should learn how to make one yourself. It's quite easy and will be very useful, you can tailor it to your own taste and need.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-9-2-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v3-1/25176
But this is a good broad and general loot filter. You can tweak it to fit more to what you want.

[vagrant tangle]

Can you guys recommend a good beginners crafting guide?

I will really start playing my Druid tonight after work. I bought LE yesterday and am really pumped to get into it.

[hot smelt]

Also I wanted to ask you a thing regarding trading items. I played Path of Exile for hundreds and hundreds hours and I admit that I was buying with real money the currency for buy gear part from other players. I'm not proud of it but even if I found amazing items I was still struggling in some map. The point is that I don't know if is possible do the same thing in LE but I hope no, because I'm really enjoying the craft system and I hope that the game never allow what was possible in PoE

[hot smelt]

Thank you 🥰

[surreal verge]

!trade

[ripe brook]

Are you a Merchant's Guild Member, or a Circle of Fortune member? Find out here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994

[desert tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyT7uuV-_28&t=1068s

[hot smelt]

Damn, I'm playing totem build with shaman and I just read that the shaman skill tree is the worst in the game, people suggesting spriggan for totems, is true?

[safe harness]

You can be in spriggan form as a shaman

[abstract aspen]

were there any changes done to address this problem ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSpBd-j_COM

[hot smelt]

I'll try it 😄

[zealous tusk]

When i use my portal i come back at end of time map after clearing an echo. How to fix this one? 😅

[safe harness]

Not really, but this issue is very build dependent

[fallen epoch]

Will i still be able to receive my physical items from my arden archon pack? i completely forgot about them last year.

[desert tree]

Probably

Contact the support to make sure if that

!support

[ripe brook]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[foggy shoal]

I there a posibility to show conversation instant? really anoying to wait always if u want to follow the story

[low coyote]

After watching some videos, I've picked up the game despite not having the best controller support. I'll figure a way of maing it work in time (I have a steam controller and the touchpads on it might make navigating "as mouse" functional given time). I have another quite specific question for the community now.
Context: I've played about 250 hours of Wolcen
If I'm starting out should I make offline or online characters? Is there a way to make an online character into an offline one if I find I don't play with other players much? I always start out with the best intention of playing with others, but most ARPGs can make that hard, or near impossible to do given server stability and lack of decent matchmaking. Only in Diablo 3 and 4 have I had much success playing online with other people, but Wolcen, Grim Dawn, Inquisitor Martyr and most other ARPGs I've played the online component is so very lacking that I end up playing 95% of the time alone. Would you recommend, based on this that I bite the bullet and just start in offline mode?

I have tested both modes with some starter characters and notice significant performance improvements playing in offline mode (particularly when transitioning between zones). Does LE suffer the same problems Wolcen does with respect to game lag when doing large amounts of damage, (dots, reflected damage etc) in online mode?

[surreal verge]

You cannot convert an online char to offline

[low coyote]

Thank you for this bit of information. Would you recommend online/offline? Is the group play stable? Is trading of items common like in PoE?

[surreal verge]

Group play is a hit or miss, trading is not avaliable yet

!trade

[ripe brook]

Are you a Merchant's Guild Member, or a Circle of Fortune member? Find out here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994

[hot smelt]

Guys what this "red" gear? I saw some gear part with red frame, is endgame gear?
It will drop from mob or do I need to craft it?
Do I need to worry it now that I'm lv70 or is too early?
I'm feeling so behind

[native sail]

Those are legendary items, you have to make them. It's a whole thing. They're very much endgame items, I wouldn't worry about them quite yet.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

[hot smelt]

Thank you very much

[native sail]

No prob

[faint pine]

Hi guys, are the any special settings? Cuz I have 3060 video graphic card, yet there are huge problems with fps especially on maps with arenas and other maps with many details on them (where are a lot of mobs, etc). The usual fps is 60-90 (high), but there are certain cases I described where it drops drastically, like 2-3.
If you had this issue and fixed, could you please let me know?

[zealous tusk]

Just want to ask about portal? When i use it after im done with echo, i return to end of time rather than i get the reward. Why is that?

[surreal verge]

What color is the portal.

If it's NOT green:You did not complete the objective.

[zealous tusk]

Blue

[surreal verge]

You didn't clear the echo.

[zealous tusk]

Yes i dont want to finish it

[surreal verge]

Then you didn't get reward because you didnt finish

[zealous tusk]

I just want to spam doing that echo

[sinful laurel]

The echo resets every time you enter it

Goal and mobs

[zealous tusk]

Ive seen a video like he tp out and came back to the reward area even if he didnt finish the echo.

[surreal verge]

If their portal was green they DID finish it.

[sinful laurel]

If you are already in the reward area from the previous echo then yes.

Not if it's your first echo

[zealous tusk]

Its a long vid but the first second hes doing it

[sinful laurel]

See what I just said immediately above

[surreal verge]

^

[zealous tusk]

Ahhh i get it thank you so much

I need to do one echo, then proceed to the one i will spam doing?

[sinful laurel]

Yup

If you want to spam, which I don't understand. But you do you 🙂

[zealous tusk]

Okay thanks!

[surreal verge]

Yeah er, what are you trying to do spamming an echo not completing it over and over?

[misty helm]

xp/loot per min i imagine; automation and predictability.

echo maps wont change, maybe the mobs dont either.

[sinful laurel]

But the echo resets each time you enter it

[misty helm]

right, thats the goal

[sinful laurel]

Goal and mobs type and density etc

[misty helm]

ah

then idk

[sinful laurel]

Then why not just complete the echo and get the reward and go to a new one haha

Yeah

[misty helm]

maybe stacked sexy mods

so high magic find

[sinful laurel]

Maybe

[vagrant tangle]

Ok wow I already got my first legendary

Is that normal?

[sinful laurel]

You mean unique I assume. And yes

[vagrant tangle]

Oh yeah unique sorry

The Falcon. Is that any good?

[sinful laurel]

Base Uniques here, at least most of them, drop like candy eventually

No lol.

Could be ok with 3 or 4 lp

[hot smelt]

Sorry guys but totem are considered as minions?
So all the minions stats working on them???

[surreal verge]

Yes

[pastel pebble]

3LP Falcon is good for levelinf

[hot smelt]

And the totem physical damage is coming from the character stats or are separate??

[surreal verge]

Minion

[hot smelt]

I mean the totem base damage

So are completely separate

Thanks

[surreal verge]

Totems are minions.

[hot smelt]

Sorry guys I'm not sure if my build make sense, I using two types of totems and are quite powerful but I also use a spell that increse more than double his damage when totems are summoned.
So my gear have lots stats for the spell, should just have totem stats for totem build or mix like this is ok...?

[desert tree]

It's not good later on

You will start struggling with dmg at some point

[hot smelt]

Thanks

[fathom nacelle]

Any suggestions for a necro leveling build?

[candid elm]

Maxroll has leveling suggestions for each mastery https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides?filter[misc][taxonomy]=taxonomies.misc&filter[misc][value]=leveling

Here's the Necro one https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/necromancer-leveling-guide

[vagrant tangle]

Is the Arboreal Circuit any good?

[haughty arrow]

hey there. first time shade of orobyss for me rn. getting killed by this blood drain which i can't seem to stop or heal against, just non stop draining until i got no more pots. what to do?

[stray dirge]

So my friend just came back to the game, he played for last 3 years ago.

We jumped in a party to lvl together but he has a problem, he is not able to pick up any loot.

He told me had this problem before too. Does anyone have any idea what the problem can be ? He is going to re-install the game and see of that is going to fix it.

[toxic echo]

The blood effigy is a killable thing in the middle of the arena that only spawns on phys orobyss fights

[acoustic thicket]

any rare/useful idols that I should add to my lootfilter? other than lighting aegis and flame wraith

[icy drift]

seems like he might either have a loot filter that hides the items or he has the item labels off

[stray dirge]

Thanks, I'll pass the info.

[humble steeple]

Guys, has anyone encountered such a problem? Vessel of Chaos doesn't work. When I enter a location I don't have a quest, so I can't complete it. I tried going through other echoes, tried clearing the location, but nothing worked.

[wide sentinel]

seems like similar issue to one discussed earlier with the new patch

port out try again

[desert tree]

Try verifying your files

[icy drift]

doesn't work, it's a bug everyone just has rn lul

atleast it didn't work for me

[humble steeple]

Unfortunately port out/in, relog, other echoes didn't help

[outer trout]

It didn't work for me either.

[wide sentinel]

[humble steeple]

My favorite type of patch.

[icy drift]

porting in and out does work, you just have to keep doing it until it gets an objective it's able to spawn

some maps are more stubborn than others

beacons are the only ones that can be perma bricked as far as i can tell

[humble steeple]

Thx, I'll keep trying

[zealous tusk]

Is there a good build out there like RF in PoE?

[sinful laurel]

Not really

[zealous tusk]

I see. So theres no like running around and killing stuff like skill 🤔

[sinful laurel]

I mean you're welcome to try aura of decay

[zealous tusk]

How about a build that can zoom monos?

[sinful laurel]

Devs have made it pretty clear time and again they don't want to foster that type of playstyle

[zealous tusk]

Ahhhhh i see.

[sinful laurel]

Lots of builds can zoom

[zealous tusk]

Ive seen a good one, but it is bug rn, and will get nerf soon ig.

[toxic anvil]

Judgement paladin

You have to do more work than RF but feels similar

[wide sentinel]

and swarmblade

[faint cape]

There are also setups that are walking simulators.
Locust swarm and judgment aura mentioned above are quite like BV, which is more fun tbh.

Locust swarm is really zoomy

[fluid wagon]

i think offline is 100% the way to go unless multiplayer is very important to you. the multiplayer works, but i dont do it that often so i switched to offline to have less bugs, faster loading, and no ping

[wide sentinel]

i never had issues with online play, but i also played only solo

19-30 ping, fast loading times dont even see any difference from offline

but im also in NA, from what i heard not na servers are way worse

[zealous tusk]

I just updated the game and this one happens idk if this is normal or no

[icy drift]

Try to verify your files

Idk if that's a thing on steamdeck lol

[zealous tusk]

Alright will do that

[icy drift]

But if it is then do that

[zealous tusk]

It is not the way it is before i update

[icy drift]

Yeah sometimes the updates can mess your files up a little

[zealous tusk]

Tried this one and still the same 😅

[icy drift]

Rip, not sure what you could do then tbh lol

Maybe with the hotfix we will hopefully get tommorow it'll be fixed

[zealous tusk]

Where can I post it?

[icy drift]

Post what? The bug? #1123698102470189118

[zealous tusk]

Does anyone experiencing the echo does not give quest sometimes? It happens after I updated the game. After I enter an echo it does not give quest but the modifiers are shown.

[surreal verge]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1184564317656449054
Known bug

[zealous tusk]

What the fix for it?

[surreal verge]

Portal out and repeat and pray.

No 100% fix

[zealous tusk]

I see thanks.

[humble steeple]

Is there a good frost marksman build? I made one, but it sucks (

[surreal verge]

There's only one, and it's... mid?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsEYFYE4g

[sinful laurel]

There is a dot cold marksman too but it struggles with mana

[humble steeple]

Yep, this bow and same quiver

[sinful laurel]

It doesn't really start to work well until you get a good hybrid crit slam tbh

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMYTiA

Also this.

[sinful laurel]

And those

[surreal verge]

Otherwise your procs do jack and all for damage.

[humble steeple]

What about
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCZVI

[surreal verge]

Maybe for dot sure, but if you're doing hit, mourningfrost is better.

Becuase you need all the flat damage you want for Reign of Winter's icicle.

100 dex is +100 flat damage, which DOUBLES it's damage.

[sinful laurel]

Doubles it at base, to be clear.uch more than doubles it after damage bonuses

[humble steeple]

Extremely need a legendary version, for dexterity )

[surreal verge]

Not really? You're a rogue you can stat stack somewhere else

People use it even with 0LP because of that all important affix.

[sinful laurel]

Yup. I wouldn't even slam dex on it tbh

Move speed much higher priority

Or hybrid hp

[humble steeple]

It doesn work with Vessel of Chaos, 17 times.

[trim saffron]

i also have this problem some monoliths i try many times and still dont work .....

[humble steeple]

Works with all echoes for me, except a Vessel.

[trim saffron]

for me vessel too dont work but also some other objectives maps

[sinful laurel]

Vessels and beacons seem to never work, regular echoes can be reloaded until you get one that can spawn the objective. Super annoying

[indigo glade]

yup, can comfirm that issue

but only experiencing it since yesterdays update

[sinful laurel]

Yup. It is known

[faint cape]

+100 is x6 damage (not x2, and assuming no other flat damage, so I guess in reality it's a little less than that)

[haughty arrow]

anyone else got that issue?

my steam is up to date, all seems fine generally

nevermind, works now

[foggy shoal]

oes anyone lse has the problem that there are no quests in the monolith and u cant complete the map though. even if i clear 100% i have no completion

[sinful laurel]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[foggy shoal]

?

[sinful laurel]

Yes. It is known

Read up about 5 messages 🙂

[sterile widget]

Too much reading

[foggy shoal]

okay. thanks ;P

[analog wadi]

i restarted steam and it went away

[foggy shoal]

ah goo

[sinful laurel]

That's not for you necro

[viral gyro]

Anyone had this one?

Looking for a fix on the forum but found nothing since morning

[analog wadi]

my bad other thing that happened

[viral gyro]

I got one day off and this happens

^^

[vagrant tangle]

Ok I can no longer login I get a message that I have to link my steam account to my LE account so I did that but I'm still getting the same message

[analog wadi]

thats the one... force restart steam

[vagrant tangle]

you mean close steam from tray and restart?

That worked

Thanks

[viral gyro]

You lucky bastard

[analog wadi]

[viral gyro]

restarted my modem...

and it worked...

ffs

[analog wadi]

what happened to the practice dummies??

got em working

[gloomy rain]

Do passives not show up in the character sheet. I would expected my critical chance to be higher?

[carmine coyote]

Thats % increased, not flat

[ebon quiver]

is there a settings file I can edit? Navigating settings with controller is a bit difficult for me for some reason.

[tiny swift]

Hi, I'm stuck all my monoliths are locked with LE-64 error, I tried doing the fallen lance and fall of the outcast again, relogging and verifying steam files, error still happens. Is there any solution or my char progression is dead ? 😭

[sterile bane]

• is flat without is % increased, usually

[surreal verge]

Imagine getting 70% crit chance for just 10 passive points!

[wide sentinel]

[amber void]

this effect stack or it roll for each idol with that affix?

[wide sentinel]

afaik it just stacks, not 100% sure. But regardless if it stacks or works independent its a really bad idol affix

[sick yacht]

The chance should stack, but the damage should be static

[acoustic sandal]

Are Crit Avoidance and 'Less extra damage' from Crit strikes additive?
I currently have 65% Crit avoid, but have an armor with 42% 'Less extra from crit' crafted, would that make me at 100%+ avoidance? (Not sure if I'm asking this correctly)

[humble steeple]

Guys, help pls. What's wrong with a Detonating Arrow? Why do 3/4 shots miss the HIGHLIGHTED target? Is it a bug or is Detonating Arrow works that way?
Especially flying enemies

[surreal verge]

They're seperate

[surreal verge]

One is "Chance to not take crit"
The other is "Less crit damage taken when crit on"

[acoustic sandal]

Okay, so the 65% is strictly avoid chance, the 'less taken', is merely reducing the damage from the 35% chance I have to be crit.
Can 'less extra' reach 100%, making it mitigate the crit all together?
Ideally, avoid is best for safety, but currently working for the Blessing to cap it outright.

Sorry for the uninformed questions, I'm still relatively new to the game.
I appreciate your insight.

[surreal verge]

Yes.

So at end game you run one or the other.

[acoustic sandal]

Much appreciated, thank you kindly

[abstract aspen]

anybody know/have any class selection quiz. Like "take this quiz to determine which class is best suites for you" kinda stuff for last epoch? xDD

[icy drift]

I'll be your quiz

Melee or ranged

[abstract aspen]

bruh i appreciate the offer. HAHAHAHAHA

ranged

[icy drift]

Arrows or magic

[desert tree]

You forgot minions

[icy drift]

That comes later

Get out of here Vlad stop ruining my quiz

[icy drift]

Vlad made them run away

[humble steeple]

Then a question. Does anyone know how to hit a Detonating Arrow with confidence?

[sinful laurel]

By not playing right now

[desert tree]

Yeah, it's heavily bugged at the moment

[humble steeple]

Last patch or long time?

[sinful laurel]

Kinda both

Last hotfix broke it completely

[humble steeple]

Ok 🥲
Return to flurry+multishot

[sinful laurel]

That's also broken AF lol, enjoy while it lasts

[viscid musk]

Only multishot can hit enemies. You will lose a lot of buffs from flurry because DAs and Flurrys projectile pierce, not all the time, but you cant control it.

[sinful laurel]

Oh right. That's a thing now. Rip

[humble steeple]

The marksman goes to trash

[sinful laurel]

Did you test melee DA? Just curious

[viscid musk]

No i didnt. I rage quitted after testing with bow😜 can do later

[sinful laurel]

Totally fair 😢

[viscid musk]

Rapid Det/Suckerpunch works with Jelkhors

[sinful laurel]

So just the projectile behavior is fucked.

[viscid musk]

So again its a projectile issue

[sinful laurel]

Big oof

[haughty arrow]

i'm using shield throw with focus on ignite. does strength boost dot/ignite dmg here?

[desert tree]

Does Shield Throw scales with Strength?

[haughty arrow]

yeah

[desert tree]

So yes

Same with Dex

4% increase dmg

[haughty arrow]

thx!

[desert tree]

It's weird, Shield Throw does not have any generic More Dmg

[sterile bane]

Is it always 4% for any skill that scales with an attribute?

[desert tree]

Yes

There is 1 case where melee dmg get 5% per str if you are a werebear/Swarmblade

[faint cape]

There are also alternative scaling things, like some stuff gets % mana efficiency per, some gets +1 damage per, and some gets % healing effect per. Minions also gain health per point and cold skills get FRM. But yeah, in general it's pretty standardized.

[vagrant tangle]

Is it better to give Ezra oder Artem the Ledger?

[surreal verge]

They give different uniques, and can be done every time once on every char, so it depends on which unique you want.

[low coyote]

For rune of ascendance, doe the level ofthe item (or character) matter?

[surreal verge]

No

[surreal verge]

Only the item type

[surreal verge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMoZlI

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCsEYGZiA

[vagrant tangle]

Is anyone of them good?

[surreal verge]

Decent for their niche.

But do very different things

You can also get an upgraded version of them from dungeons in the future

So take which ever you need now.

[vagrant tangle]

I have no clue which one I need 😄

I have just started playing the day before yesterday

[surreal verge]

Do/Will you do elemental (Fire,cold,lightning) damage?
Yes: Avarice
No: Gambler's Fallacy

[vagrant tangle]

Well not right now

I'm playing a totem primalist

[surreal verge]

Then both won't matter: Neither helps minion builds.

[vagrant tangle]

Nice! 😄

[surreal verge]

They're closer to uniques that help you during leveling anyway, so it doesn't hurt much.
Besides, there's more uniques that support minion builds than not

Although if you really have nothing better you can grab avarice for the elemental resist temporary.

[vagrant tangle]

Well I grabbed the Avarice but I won't use them I got gloves with minion dmg

[vagrant tangle]

So I was just able to choose my Mastery

I picked Druid even though I can't really use it for now but since you can't change it I had to that I guess.

[candid elm]

Druid is a solid choice. If you end up not liking turning into a Bear or Swarmblade, you can always make another character in the future.

[desert tree]

Even Spriggan is really good

[vagrant tangle]

I plan on using Spriggan for levellling and try your build later when I can

[desert tree]

Oh the werebear + summon Spriggan?

[vagrant tangle]

Yeah. Sounds fun I'm just a bit worried about the boss dmg

[desert tree]

Up until 200c I had no problem

After that it started to slow down

[vagrant tangle]

Whatever that means 😄

But what would u say when it's possible to switch to that?

[desert tree]

I would say the bare minimum is getting lvl 50 and get the Tear of the Forest amulet

You really want your 5 skills and the amulet for the rage sustain

[vagrant tangle]

I see

[vagrant tangle]

Do you mind me DM'ing you if I have any question about the char?

[desert tree]

No problem

Dm or @ me in #🐺┃primalist

[sonic saddle]

yeah attribute scaling affects all damage resulting from the skill, including ailments

[dull niche]

Does area level have increased chances to drop items that near area level and reduced that have lower level?

[surreal verge]

Area level determines what can drop EG: a item with a lv 50 requirement can't drop in an area level lower than 50.

[dull niche]

So, higher level items just added to drop list for higher area level, but chances the same?

[icy drift]

Do timeline specific nodes rate scale with corruption? I can't remember

[surreal verge]

In theory.

[icy drift]

Nope, higher level bases have a higher chance of dropping at higher level areas. There's a system in place that if a low level base wants to drop it has a chance to reroll into a random different base

[surreal verge]

Today I learned.

[icy drift]

Yezzir

[surreal verge]

..This explains the shiv complaints.

[dull niche]

Oh no

So low level exalts have lower chance to be dropped?

And how to farm them

Because, low area level means less chance for exalted

[surreal verge]

Assuming exalts can even drop in low level, this would be the min

[spice hollow]

Hey, does anyone know if characters will be wiped on launching 1.0, or will I be able to keep my characters? I'm not keen on starting over but I would like to play

[native sail]

They will not be wiped, all characters will be moved to legacy (the equivalent of PoE's standard league, or Diablo's eternal realm)

[spice hollow]

thanks! 🙂

[native sail]

Np

[haughty arrow]

does "increased damage" work for dot (ignite), too?

same for "increased throwing damage", when applying ignite via shield throw

[desert tree]

Yes for the first one

Not sure for the second, I want to say no

It might be worth asking in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[surreal verge]

No.

[haughty arrow]

so "increased damage" in this exact wording always counts for everything on hit (melee, throw, spell) and all kinds of dot?

[surreal verge]

Because it specifies throwing.

[surreal verge]

It implies generic, so yes.

[haughty arrow]

thanks, guys. man, love this game so far, but it's a lot

[pallid wave]

Hello guys, i am having a little issue with my 2 screens setup one is 1080p the other 4k. at first i couldn't get the game to change screens but using window mode i changed it then put back on full screen, the issue is i am only getting 1080 as max resolution on my 4k screen. is there a file i can open to force resolution ?

[low coyote]

I'm fresh into doing monoliths, should I be clearing the maps for the bonus stability, or just doing more echo's?

[native sail]

Go as fast as you can, bonus stability doesn't help much in comparison to just rushing them

[low coyote]

Thanks! Also, I've cleared the first zone and was offered to unlock 62 and 66, I picked 66 because I wanted more challenge and exp, was that the right choice? Do I need to unlock the others to anyway?

[desert tree]

It's was the right choice

You will have another choice later on, make sure you take the higher lvl again

It's during the second quest of Ending the Storm

You don't need to go again and unlock them. Once you reach empowered they all unlock

[low coyote]

When you complete an echo quest, you don't get items from the chest, but some kind of glitter. Is that just exp or something else?

[desert tree]

It's not exp, maybe your loot filter is hiding everything from the chest

[haughty arrow]

is there any use to have more than 100% crit avoidance?

[desert tree]

No

[haughty arrow]

shit. thanks

[haughty arrow]

does "attack speed" include throw speed?

[desert tree]

Yes

Attacks are melee, throw and bow

[acoustic thicket]

have the devs commented on the ability to add a marker on the minimap for lootfilter drops? like the orange star when legendary drops but custom?

[balmy current]

They have, yes.

[acoustic thicket]

And?

[surreal verge]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[balmy current]

There we go. Thanks, I'd forgotten what they'd said as they have said many things on many subjects.

[surreal verge]

I thank whoever linked it in a related suggestion

[acoustic thicket]

Thank you

Although I really don't understand that response

Just...read what a given rule does?

[surreal verge]

Tldr:idiot proof and also not making it just nuke your hardware

Lightless arbor with no loot filter moment

[oak nymph]

Any casual content creators for this game? Not necessarily for build. Just something I can watch for gameplay purpose

[low coyote]

I thought that, but I used the X key to disable it, but it definitely looks like something comes out of the chest and is absorbed by the player

[desert tree]

Weird, exp is not like that, and the big chest doesn't give any. Exp is a bunch of books

[low coyote]

I'll make a video on the next one, there's no nugget in the middle of the room to loot, and the chest doesn't yield loot just something sparkling.

[surreal verge]

The middle is normally the echo reward, and quest echoes don't have one.

[low coyote]

Yeah, I figured that was the case. But there a chest to open and a graphic, but no loot. Thought it was maybe something else.

[kind flint]

Ok all i have a question that has probably been asked amillion times...... i am playing multiplayer with my buddy and we are having issues moving our corruption together. Is this supposed to be the way the games is played since multiplayer was just added? i understand they would not want people boost but jeez it doubles the time you have to move up corrution.

[low coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZE-t4DlMB0
Clip of quest echo providing no loot from chest

[analog wadi]

what decides the opening modifier "enemies drop more relics" at the start of a dungeon?

ive tried going to char select

restarting LE

and doing the dungeon\

[desert tree]

It changes daily

[analog wadi]

ooo

[desert tree]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/dungeons

You can check here what mod are planned for what tier and day

[analog wadi]

thanks

[ancient wedge]

whats the best spark build?

[desert tree]

Lightning Blast Runemaster

Look for SMK on YouTube, he has one that pushed 2.5k corruption

[ancient wedge]

thx bro ima try it out

[desert tree]

Be careful, he has a very high end expensive build

With a ton legendary

When you put the build together you don't need all those

[ancient wedge]

i have them 😉

[zealous tusk]

I cant progress with my quest because I cant click this npc, tried to relogin but still the same.

[ancient wedge]

try logging a different char then going back to the original one

OR verify integrity, i had the same problem

[ancient wedge]

@desert treeits so fuckin strong lol thx ❤️

[analog wadi]

do i have to logout ti load my char on last epoch build planner? trying to prevent file corruption

[desert tree]

No

You are fine

[coarse sky]

Hi guys, does the teleport buff in julra ring stack, if I'm going to wear two rings?

[faint cape]

Not exactly? They are independent of each other, but they'll both work

[analog wadi]

whats a good build to deal with t4 julra? ive tried lightning swipe were bear and nova hammerdin but havent killed her yet

its like i dont have enough dmg on the werebear and not enough health on the hammerdin

[desert tree]

Frostbite Frostclaw Runemaster

That's my go to

[analog wadi]

got a link to a bui;d guide?

[desert tree]

Perry the pig has a great video

[analog wadi]

thanks again Vlad

[desert tree]

It's the only build I ve managed to do t4 Julra

I can stand still most of the fight

I just need to tp out of the big boom

[analog wadi]

progress is always beneficial

Lore: woah did the mage spawn the acolyte?

[ancient wedge]

is there a minion build for every class?

[desert tree]

Mage, not really

Technically mage has minions but they don't really deal dmg

Otherwise, yes everybody has access to minions

[pearl sinew]

hi i just started playing this game (noob) . Why is there no mage build, right now im lvl 10 mage and i got suggetsed by global chat to. use a build

https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/version=beta092 but when i go here, to search for build i see no mage build

[desert tree]

Because mage is the base clasd

And everybody pick a mastery

[pearl sinew]

ah

when can i pick a mastery?